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nixternalanyone know who lucius is from the Xubuntu side of the doc team?02:05
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: doesn' seem to be anyone like that on LP02:11
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mdkemorning08:21
mdkenixternal: https://beta.launchpad.net/~lucius-antonius08:21
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bhuvanwhy mdke? :)09:20
mdkeseems very slow. Has worked now09:21
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bhuvanok!09:21
bhuvanafk09:22
poningrubhuvan: malu?09:22
poningruor tamil therima?09:22
poningruerr thats in tamil not in hindi ;)09:22
poningrusigh... no one gets these jokes anymore :(09:22
bhuvanponingru, yeah tamil09:26
poningruplease tell me you got the therima joke!09:26
poningruI do not understand why tn has such a big loco team09:27
poningruwhile kerela has like none09:27
poningruor karnataka09:27
poningruyou'd thing with banglore there...09:27
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bhuvani'm not aware of that joke09:34
mdkehiya willvdl, welcome back09:45
willvdlheya09:45
willvdlthanks, looking forward to UDS/UES09:45
mdke:)09:47
willvdlyou're at UDS right?09:48
mdkenope09:49
popeymorning mdke09:49
mdkehiya popey09:50
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mdkeI have a mediation that week09:50
popeywhat's a mediation?09:50
mdkemuch more fun09:50
mdke(not)09:50
popeywork thing?09:50
willvdlmdke, give them all some strong tea and tell them to get along09:51
mdkepopey: it's where parties who have a legal dispute but don't want to go all the way to court sit around and try and get to a settlement with the help of a mediator who beats them round the head and tells them they are both wrong09:51
willvdlor we'll settle it tribal style...09:51
popeyahhh09:52
popeyyou are the voice of reason?09:52
popeyor you are wrong? :)09:52
mdkepopey: no, I'm a lawyer for one of the wrong parties09:52
popeyahh09:52
mdkeI'd like to go to a development summit one day, but I can never really spare the time09:53
popey:(09:53
popeywell, i am of course lucky to be going this year09:53
Admiral_Chicagoi will hopefully go to Gutsy+1 UDS09:56
popeyeven if i am paying for myself09:56
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mdkeI don't know who else is going from the doc team09:56
mdkeJordan, I suppose09:56
popeyah, whilst you are here..09:56
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popeywould it be possible to get a copy of the apache2 logs on doc.ubuntu.com so i can process the /screencasts/ bit to see popularity etc?09:57
popey(we were on the front page of groklaw last week by the way) :)09:57
mdkewe can ask.09:57
mdkeoh nice09:57
popeyas a link of the day09:57
mdkeI'm still chasing screencasts.u.c btw09:57
popeycool09:57
popeyis d.u.c not yours then?09:58
mdkeoh yeah, course it is09:58
mdkedoh09:58
popey:)09:58
popeyjust add me to the adm group ;)09:59
mdkenot so sure about that - it's Canonical's server, not mine10:02
popeyahh10:02
popeyi was (kinda) kidding10:02
mdkepopey: they are in your home dir, is that ok?10:02
popeyso they are10:02
popeythat's fine, thank you10:02
mdkenp10:02
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MehdiHassanpourhi :-)02:43
MehdiHassanpouris there a guideline like DFSG for ubuntu ?02:43
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pwneddWould it be okay to make a comment / suggestion related to Ubuntu docs here?05:48
bdmurraypwnedd: you might have better luck with a bug report05:49
bdmurraybecause more people will see it05:49
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pwneddokay, thanks bdmurray05:57
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ubotuNew bug: #110013 in ubuntu-docs (main) "suggestion - easy way to request features or documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11001309:16
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: I see you have built a blueprint for doc work on LP beta. what are your plans?09:25
nixternaldunno yet, jjesse and myself along with Riddell and a couple of the KDE people will meet up and talk about it, hopefully this week09:27
mdkegot a link?09:27
nixternalmdke: I think the blueprint he is referring to is either from Edgy or Feisty09:28
nixternalI haven't done one for Gutsy just yet09:28
nixternalalthough I did start a wiki page so we can start adding ideas as well as cover topics that weren't addressed as deeply as I would like09:28
nixternalhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/Gutsy09:28
Admiral_Chicagono, the link I'm refering to is this one...09:29
nixternal... invalid url ;p09:29
Admiral_Chicagohttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mentoring09:29
nixternaloh, you are talking about mentoring09:30
nixternalno blueprint as spec09:30
nixternals/no/not09:30
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nixternalI figured that would be a good mentoring bug for someone to get their feet wet in docbook/xml and documentation09:31
Admiral_Chicagoright. i was under the impression you write the idea of mentoring as a blueprint though09:31
nixternalanother goal I have during Gutsy is a revamp of the styling guide as well09:31
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: someone like me (?) :)09:31
nixternalI have no idea, I got an email from Mark (as did everyone else) that talked about it09:31
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: do you really need mentoring though? counseling yes, mentoring I don't think so09:31
nixternal;p09:31
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: true, I'm going to throw myself down with Xubuntu doc, I think I understand everything except XML format09:32
Admiral_Chicagooh you jerk, I just got that09:32
nixternalif you want to, I will mentor you through the ATI/NVidia binary blobs if you want to write that up. Only problem is you have 100 solutions for the same thing, oh and it has to work for everyone ;)09:32
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: docbook/xml is so simple, easier than HTML truthfully.09:33
nixternalthen again I have been using it forever09:33
Admiral_Chicagoyea...binary stuff doesn't play nice with me.09:34
Admiral_Chicagohow did you actually register the mentoring thing09:34
nixternalthe option is witch each bug09:36
nixternalwe will see how many people come knocking on my door for that one09:37
mdkenixternal: can you have a think about how we should present kubuntu docs on help.u.c/7.04 when it is ready? I'd be interested to know what you think about that. It's probably a good chance to think about how kubuntu docs fit into help.u.c in general09:38
nixternaltruthfully, I don't think they will fit09:38
Admiral_Chicagowell I'm going to offer mentorship for Fx, just not sure how to actually offer my services09:38
mdkegive it some thought, you don't have to say immediately09:38
nixternalif anything, I would like to do a small guide/intro, and about-kubuntu if anything09:39
mdkeI'm in two minds myself09:39
nixternalheh, I hear you there09:39
mdkeit's a choice between leaving Kubuntu docs to kubuntu.org, or trying to present them side by side with Ubuntu docs on help.ubuntu.com in a way which is clear and helpful09:39
nixternalI will talk to Riddell and see what he says. I know we are working on redoing the Kubuntu website, so maybe I can just get the docs there09:40
mdkegood idea about talking to him09:40
mdkemaybe the whole council, it's quite an important question I think09:41
nixternalspeaking of which, good luck!09:41
mdkethx09:41
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nixternalfor Mickey Mouse!09:41
nixternal;)09:41
mdke:)09:41
mdkeI voted for him too09:41
nixternallol09:41
mdkethe more the merry09:42
nixternalMickey Mouse is the only thing that has ever won an election and was not on the ballot09:42
Admiral_Chicagoi sent in my votes too09:42
nixternalthat is sad, I voted for him again this year :)09:42
nixternalDuPage county elections, all Republicans, which I have no problems with seeing as I consider myself a centrist with a good lean towards conservatism. but all of my choices were republican, so my dad and I both voted for Mickey09:43
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: the entire city I live in could have voted for Mickey Mouse and the mayor would still win09:47
nixternalthat's Chicago man09:47
nixternalyou think dead people would vote for Mickey?09:47
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Admiral_Chicagono, thats the Daley vote09:48
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