[02:05] <nixternal> anyone know who lucius is from the Xubuntu side of the doc team?
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: doesn' seem to be anyone like that on LP
[08:21] <mdke> morning
[08:21] <mdke> nixternal: https://beta.launchpad.net/~lucius-antonius
[09:20] <bhuvan> why mdke? :)
[09:21] <mdke> seems very slow. Has worked now
[09:21] <bhuvan> ok!
[09:22] <bhuvan> afk
[09:22] <poningru> bhuvan: malu?
[09:22] <poningru> or tamil therima?
[09:22] <poningru> err thats in tamil not in hindi ;)
[09:22] <poningru> sigh... no one gets these jokes anymore :(
[09:26] <bhuvan> poningru, yeah tamil
[09:26] <poningru> please tell me you got the therima joke!
[09:27] <poningru> I do not understand why tn has such a big loco team
[09:27] <poningru> while kerela has like none
[09:27] <poningru> or karnataka
[09:27] <poningru> you'd thing with banglore there...
[09:34] <bhuvan> i'm not aware of that joke
[09:45] <mdke> hiya willvdl, welcome back
[09:45] <willvdl> heya
[09:45] <willvdl> thanks, looking forward to UDS/UES
[09:47] <mdke> :)
[09:48] <willvdl> you're at UDS right?
[09:49] <mdke> nope
[09:49] <popey> morning mdke
[09:50] <mdke> hiya popey
[09:50] <mdke> I have a mediation that week
[09:50] <popey> what's a mediation?
[09:50] <mdke> much more fun
[09:50] <mdke> (not)
[09:50] <popey> work thing?
[09:51] <willvdl> mdke, give them all some strong tea and tell them to get along
[09:51] <mdke> popey: it's where parties who have a legal dispute but don't want to go all the way to court sit around and try and get to a settlement with the help of a mediator who beats them round the head and tells them they are both wrong
[09:51] <willvdl> or we'll settle it tribal style...
[09:52] <popey> ahhh
[09:52] <popey> you are the voice of reason?
[09:52] <popey> or you are wrong? :)
[09:52] <mdke> popey: no, I'm a lawyer for one of the wrong parties
[09:52] <popey> ahh
[09:53] <mdke> I'd like to go to a development summit one day, but I can never really spare the time
[09:53] <popey> :(
[09:53] <popey> well, i am of course lucky to be going this year
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i will hopefully go to Gutsy+1 UDS
[09:56] <popey> even if i am paying for myself
[09:56] <mdke> I don't know who else is going from the doc team
[09:56] <mdke> Jordan, I suppose
[09:56] <popey> ah, whilst you are here..
[09:57] <popey> would it be possible to get a copy of the apache2 logs on doc.ubuntu.com so i can process the /screencasts/ bit to see popularity etc?
[09:57] <popey> (we were on the front page of groklaw last week by the way) :)
[09:57] <mdke> we can ask.
[09:57] <mdke> oh nice
[09:57] <popey> as a link of the day
[09:57] <mdke> I'm still chasing screencasts.u.c btw
[09:57] <popey> cool
[09:58] <popey> is d.u.c not yours then?
[09:58] <mdke> oh yeah, course it is
[09:58] <mdke> doh
[09:58] <popey> :)
[09:59] <popey> just add me to the adm group ;)
[10:02] <mdke> not so sure about that - it's Canonical's server, not mine
[10:02] <popey> ahh
[10:02] <popey> i was (kinda) kidding
[10:02] <mdke> popey: they are in your home dir, is that ok?
[10:02] <popey> so they are
[10:02] <popey> that's fine, thank you
[10:02] <mdke> np
[02:43] <MehdiHassanpour> hi :-)
[02:43] <MehdiHassanpour> is there a guideline like DFSG for ubuntu ?
[05:48] <pwnedd> Would it be okay to make a comment / suggestion related to Ubuntu docs here?
[05:49] <bdmurray> pwnedd: you might have better luck with a bug report
[05:49] <bdmurray> because more people will see it
[05:57] <pwnedd> okay, thanks bdmurray
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #110013 in ubuntu-docs (main) "suggestion - easy way to request features or documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110013
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: I see you have built a blueprint for doc work on LP beta. what are your plans?
[09:27] <nixternal> dunno yet, jjesse and myself along with Riddell and a couple of the KDE people will meet up and talk about it, hopefully this week
[09:27] <mdke> got a link?
[09:28] <nixternal> mdke: I think the blueprint he is referring to is either from Edgy or Feisty
[09:28] <nixternal> I haven't done one for Gutsy just yet
[09:28] <nixternal> although I did start a wiki page so we can start adding ideas as well as cover topics that weren't addressed as deeply as I would like
[09:28] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/Gutsy
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> no, the link I'm refering to is this one...
[09:29] <nixternal> ... invalid url ;p
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mentoring
[09:30] <nixternal> oh, you are talking about mentoring
[09:30] <nixternal> no blueprint as spec
[09:30] <nixternal> s/no/not
[09:31] <nixternal> I figured that would be a good mentoring bug for someone to get their feet wet in docbook/xml and documentation
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> right. i was under the impression you write the idea of mentoring as a blueprint though
[09:31] <nixternal> another goal I have during Gutsy is a revamp of the styling guide as well
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: someone like me (?) :)
[09:31] <nixternal> I have no idea, I got an email from Mark (as did everyone else) that talked about it
[09:31] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: do you really need mentoring though? counseling yes, mentoring I don't think so
[09:31] <nixternal> ;p
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: true, I'm going to throw myself down with Xubuntu doc, I think I understand everything except XML format
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> oh you jerk, I just got that
[09:32] <nixternal> if you want to, I will mentor you through the ATI/NVidia binary blobs if you want to write that up. Only problem is you have 100 solutions for the same thing, oh and it has to work for everyone ;)
[09:33] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: docbook/xml is so simple, easier than HTML truthfully.
[09:33] <nixternal> then again I have been using it forever
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> yea...binary stuff doesn't play nice with me.
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> how did you actually register the mentoring thing
[09:36] <nixternal> the option is witch each bug
[09:37] <nixternal> we will see how many people come knocking on my door for that one
[09:38] <mdke> nixternal: can you have a think about how we should present kubuntu docs on help.u.c/7.04 when it is ready? I'd be interested to know what you think about that. It's probably a good chance to think about how kubuntu docs fit into help.u.c in general
[09:38] <nixternal> truthfully, I don't think they will fit
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> well I'm going to offer mentorship for Fx, just not sure how to actually offer my services
[09:38] <mdke> give it some thought, you don't have to say immediately
[09:39] <nixternal> if anything, I would like to do a small guide/intro, and about-kubuntu if anything
[09:39] <mdke> I'm in two minds myself
[09:39] <nixternal> heh, I hear you there
[09:39] <mdke> it's a choice between leaving Kubuntu docs to kubuntu.org, or trying to present them side by side with Ubuntu docs on help.ubuntu.com in a way which is clear and helpful
[09:40] <nixternal> I will talk to Riddell and see what he says. I know we are working on redoing the Kubuntu website, so maybe I can just get the docs there
[09:40] <mdke> good idea about talking to him
[09:41] <mdke> maybe the whole council, it's quite an important question I think
[09:41] <nixternal> speaking of which, good luck!
[09:41] <mdke> thx
[09:41] <nixternal> for Mickey Mouse!
[09:41] <nixternal> ;)
[09:41] <mdke> :)
[09:41] <mdke> I voted for him too
[09:41] <nixternal> lol
[09:42] <mdke> the more the merry
[09:42] <nixternal> Mickey Mouse is the only thing that has ever won an election and was not on the ballot
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> i sent in my votes too
[09:42] <nixternal> that is sad, I voted for him again this year :)
[09:43] <nixternal> DuPage county elections, all Republicans, which I have no problems with seeing as I consider myself a centrist with a good lean towards conservatism. but all of my choices were republican, so my dad and I both voted for Mickey
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: the entire city I live in could have voted for Mickey Mouse and the mayor would still win
[09:47] <nixternal> that's Chicago man
[09:47] <nixternal> you think dead people would vote for Mickey?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> no, thats the Daley vote