=== willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Demon012 [n=alan@82-46-76-235.cable.ubr05.stav.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === kestrel_ [n=zen_love@fw-dcise.ascensionhealth.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:05] anyone know who lucius is from the Xubuntu side of the doc team? [02:11] nixternal: doesn' seem to be anyone like that on LP === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === popey_ [n=alan@bishop.popey.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-doc === alpha-one [n=alpha-on@24-177-174-127.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === alpha-one is now known as Ajara === Ajara is now known as Ajere === kestrel [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CIA-25 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CIA-27 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ajere15 [n=alpha-on@24-177-174-127.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:21] morning [08:21] nixternal: https://beta.launchpad.net/~lucius-antonius === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke kicks svn [09:20] why mdke? :) [09:21] seems very slow. Has worked now === mdke kicks the bot [09:21] ok! [09:22] afk [09:22] bhuvan: malu? [09:22] or tamil therima? [09:22] err thats in tamil not in hindi ;) [09:22] sigh... no one gets these jokes anymore :( [09:26] poningru, yeah tamil [09:26] please tell me you got the therima joke! [09:27] I do not understand why tn has such a big loco team [09:27] while kerela has like none [09:27] or karnataka [09:27] you'd thing with banglore there... === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:34] i'm not aware of that joke [09:45] hiya willvdl, welcome back [09:45] heya [09:45] thanks, looking forward to UDS/UES [09:47] :) [09:48] you're at UDS right? [09:49] nope [09:49] morning mdke [09:50] hiya popey === popey is going to UDS \o/ === popey is on the wagon tho /o\ === Admiral_Chicago waves fist at people going to UDS [09:50] I have a mediation that week [09:50] what's a mediation? [09:50] much more fun [09:50] (not) [09:50] work thing? [09:51] mdke, give them all some strong tea and tell them to get along [09:51] popey: it's where parties who have a legal dispute but don't want to go all the way to court sit around and try and get to a settlement with the help of a mediator who beats them round the head and tells them they are both wrong [09:51] or we'll settle it tribal style... [09:52] ahhh [09:52] you are the voice of reason? [09:52] or you are wrong? :) [09:52] popey: no, I'm a lawyer for one of the wrong parties [09:52] ahh [09:53] I'd like to go to a development summit one day, but I can never really spare the time [09:53] :( [09:53] well, i am of course lucky to be going this year [09:56] i will hopefully go to Gutsy+1 UDS [09:56] even if i am paying for myself === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:56] I don't know who else is going from the doc team [09:56] Jordan, I suppose [09:56] ah, whilst you are here.. === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:57] would it be possible to get a copy of the apache2 logs on doc.ubuntu.com so i can process the /screencasts/ bit to see popularity etc? [09:57] (we were on the front page of groklaw last week by the way) :) [09:57] we can ask. [09:57] oh nice [09:57] as a link of the day [09:57] I'm still chasing screencasts.u.c btw [09:57] cool [09:58] is d.u.c not yours then? [09:58] oh yeah, course it is [09:58] doh [09:58] :) [09:59] just add me to the adm group ;) [10:02] not so sure about that - it's Canonical's server, not mine [10:02] ahh [10:02] i was (kinda) kidding [10:02] popey: they are in your home dir, is that ok? [10:02] so they are [10:02] that's fine, thank you [10:02] np === mdke goes to work === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Pello82 [n=Pejo@adsl-ull-233-72.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MehdiHassanpour [n=mehdi@ubuntu/member/MehdiHassanpour] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === philwyett [n=philip@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymole [n=warren@220.237.175.49] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@erlang.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === kestrel [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:43] hi :-) [02:43] is there a guideline like DFSG for ubuntu ? === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEFD11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ajere15 [n=alpha-on@24-213-56-202.static.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pwnedd [n=pwnedd@resnet-239-6.resnet.UMBC.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:48] Would it be okay to make a comment / suggestion related to Ubuntu docs here? [05:49] pwnedd: you might have better luck with a bug report [05:49] because more people will see it === popey [n=alan@bishop.popey.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@80.41.96.25] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@24.21.235.175] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@b14.gw.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:57] okay, thanks bdmurray === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === jenda [n=jenda@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:16] New bug: #110013 in ubuntu-docs (main) "suggestion - easy way to request features or documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110013 [09:25] nixternal: I see you have built a blueprint for doc work on LP beta. what are your plans? [09:27] dunno yet, jjesse and myself along with Riddell and a couple of the KDE people will meet up and talk about it, hopefully this week [09:27] got a link? [09:28] mdke: I think the blueprint he is referring to is either from Edgy or Feisty [09:28] I haven't done one for Gutsy just yet [09:28] although I did start a wiki page so we can start adding ideas as well as cover topics that weren't addressed as deeply as I would like [09:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs/Gutsy [09:29] no, the link I'm refering to is this one... [09:29] ... invalid url ;p [09:29] https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mentoring [09:30] oh, you are talking about mentoring [09:30] no blueprint as spec [09:30] s/no/not === cpk2 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:31] I figured that would be a good mentoring bug for someone to get their feet wet in docbook/xml and documentation [09:31] right. i was under the impression you write the idea of mentoring as a blueprint though [09:31] another goal I have during Gutsy is a revamp of the styling guide as well [09:31] nixternal: someone like me (?) :) [09:31] I have no idea, I got an email from Mark (as did everyone else) that talked about it [09:31] Admiral_Chicago: do you really need mentoring though? counseling yes, mentoring I don't think so [09:31] ;p [09:32] nixternal: true, I'm going to throw myself down with Xubuntu doc, I think I understand everything except XML format [09:32] oh you jerk, I just got that [09:32] if you want to, I will mentor you through the ATI/NVidia binary blobs if you want to write that up. Only problem is you have 100 solutions for the same thing, oh and it has to work for everyone ;) [09:33] Admiral_Chicago: docbook/xml is so simple, easier than HTML truthfully. [09:33] then again I have been using it forever [09:34] yea...binary stuff doesn't play nice with me. [09:34] how did you actually register the mentoring thing [09:36] the option is witch each bug [09:37] we will see how many people come knocking on my door for that one [09:38] nixternal: can you have a think about how we should present kubuntu docs on help.u.c/7.04 when it is ready? I'd be interested to know what you think about that. It's probably a good chance to think about how kubuntu docs fit into help.u.c in general [09:38] truthfully, I don't think they will fit [09:38] well I'm going to offer mentorship for Fx, just not sure how to actually offer my services [09:38] give it some thought, you don't have to say immediately [09:39] if anything, I would like to do a small guide/intro, and about-kubuntu if anything [09:39] I'm in two minds myself [09:39] heh, I hear you there [09:39] it's a choice between leaving Kubuntu docs to kubuntu.org, or trying to present them side by side with Ubuntu docs on help.ubuntu.com in a way which is clear and helpful [09:40] I will talk to Riddell and see what he says. I know we are working on redoing the Kubuntu website, so maybe I can just get the docs there [09:40] good idea about talking to him [09:41] maybe the whole council, it's quite an important question I think [09:41] speaking of which, good luck! [09:41] thx === nixternal already voted [09:41] for Mickey Mouse! [09:41] ;) [09:41] :) [09:41] I voted for him too [09:41] lol [09:42] the more the merry [09:42] Mickey Mouse is the only thing that has ever won an election and was not on the ballot [09:42] i sent in my votes too [09:42] that is sad, I voted for him again this year :) [09:43] DuPage county elections, all Republicans, which I have no problems with seeing as I consider myself a centrist with a good lean towards conservatism. but all of my choices were republican, so my dad and I both voted for Mickey [09:47] nixternal: the entire city I live in could have voted for Mickey Mouse and the mayor would still win [09:47] that's Chicago man [09:47] you think dead people would vote for Mickey? === nixternal gets back to homework at school [09:48] no, thats the Daley vote === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-233-27.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Pello82 [n=Pejo@adsl-ull-9-76.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymo1e [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc