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| nixternal | how come I always miss the Edubuntu meetings? I want to toss my hat in for membership (for about 6 months now), but can never make it to a meeting | 12:40 |
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| Burgwork | nixternal: you already have Edubuntu, via your Kubuntu memberhsip | 12:41 |
| nixternal | also, LaserJock, any plans for 7.10? | 12:41 |
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| nixternal | via Kubuntu and Ubuntu and Burgwork memberships ;) | 12:41 |
| Burgwork | wait a sec, you have membership in me? | 12:41 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: that is for doc work? Kubuntu is solid and won't take to much from me this go round | 12:41 |
| nixternal | not in you...OK, I am going to stop | 12:41 |
| nixternal | trying to say it right still sounded wrong | 12:42 |
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| nixternal | yes | 12:48 |
| nixternal | muhehehe | 12:48 |
| nixternal | it started out as a joke, but Burgwork made me want it (membership) even more. I want to be like him when I grow up | 12:48 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: you are twisted :) | 12:48 |
| nixternal | you think? ;) | 12:49 |
| Burgwork | ya, you use KDE? | 12:53 |
| pygi | :P | 01:06 |
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| ajmitch | aw, nixternal left | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | yay, he returns | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | Burgwork: it's not fair, I'm not an edubuntu or kubuntu member | 01:24 |
| nixternal | oh man, I press the wrong button and everyone starts talking bad about me ;) | 01:24 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: of course | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | how else would we talk? | 01:25 |
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| ajmitch | hello pygi :) | 01:25 |
| Burgwork | ajmitch: how familiar are you with mysql? | 01:26 |
| nixternal | haha | 01:26 |
| nixternal | OK, class time | 01:26 |
| nixternal | back in a bit | 01:26 |
| pygi | ajmitch, hi ^_^ | 01:26 |
| ajmitch | Burgwork: mysql & php are the bane of my life | 01:26 |
| Burgwork | I am having a headache installing joomla | 01:26 |
| ajmitch | ok | 01:27 |
| pygi | Burgwork, what's the problem? | 01:27 |
| Burgwork | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joomla <-- following this | 01:27 |
| Burgwork | I have created a mysql db | 01:28 |
| Burgwork | and yet is says "mysql unavailable" on the first page | 01:28 |
| Burgwork | on the joomla config wizard | 01:28 |
| pygi | restarted mysql, gave all rights to the user that joomla is using to access db, and such? | 01:29 |
| Burgwork | yep and yep | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | joomla is php? | 01:30 |
| Burgwork | ya | 01:30 |
| ajmitch | got the appropriate php-mysql installed? | 01:30 |
| Burgwork | now I feel stupid | 01:31 |
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| Burgwork | ok, that worked | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | excellent | 01:33 |
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| pygi | congrats Burgwork :) | 01:34 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: you sitll around? | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: you still around? | 05:12 |
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| sacater | highvolt1ge: ive fixed gizmo | 06:35 |
| sacater | highvolt1ge: well sort of, i now use ekig | 06:35 |
| sacater | ekiga* | 06:35 |
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| skwashd | hi all | 07:38 |
| skwashd | i have been trying to install edubuntu and i am not having much luck | 07:39 |
| skwashd | nm | 07:39 |
| skwashd | had my partioning wrong | 07:42 |
| skwashd | 100M / not 100G :) | 07:42 |
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| juliux | hi RichEd | 09:18 |
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| tsurc | Ive just installed edu7.04 on a test server, and I'm having problems with the Screen Viewer. | 01:08 |
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| tsurc | I'm having problems setting up Screen Viewer on edubunut7.04. I have followed the instructions here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients BUT NO JOY | 02:48 |
| tsurc | sorry "but no joy" | 02:48 |
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| cliebow_ | tsurc:this is usng thin-client-manager? | 03:51 |
| tsurc | yes, but weirdly and I don't know what I did...... but it works now | 03:52 |
| cliebow_ | must live right 8~) | 03:53 |
| cliebow_ | soccer playoffs on now? | 03:53 |
| tsurc | get a small thumbnail from thin-client-manager.... note ip address of client. close thin-client manager. Fire up vncviewer ip:6 and your away. | 03:54 |
| tsurc | all I need to do now I thing is sort out sound with websites using flash. Set the clients NOT to detect the on board flash, and workout how to turn all the clients of with a cron job. | 03:55 |
| tsurc | *think | 03:56 |
| tsurc | cliebow_: I haven't tried that script out yet you sent me. I have had a little read through and it look ok so far. | 03:57 |
| cliebow_ | i cant remember..ohhh ldap.. | 03:58 |
| tsurc | cliebow_: prefer rugby union (bit like american football minus the body armour, helmets and stuff) ;) | 03:58 |
| cliebow_ | tsurc:death-wish football..my brother used to play | 03:59 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:59 |
| tsurc | My sister used to play for Lancaster University Womens squad. | 04:00 |
| tsurc | Morning (Afternoon ?) | 04:00 |
| cliebow_ | my old Teach gave a list of user@ws..id click on it..hit run and it would open up | 04:00 |
| bddebian | Heya | 04:00 |
| cliebow_ | sort of like mrs doubtfire..8~) | 04:00 |
| tsurc | Well I know we have a love hate relationship, but she's not quite that bad. For a rugby player she's surprisingly feminine | 04:02 |
| cliebow_ | cool.. | 04:03 |
| tsurc | anyway, I havn't seen her for a bit, I'm more bothered about getting a cron job for shuting down the clients. | 04:03 |
| cliebow_ | like an ssh -e to the client? | 04:04 |
| tsurc | I've got waking them up ok. using wakeonlan on the server | 04:04 |
| cliebow_ | cool | 04:04 |
| tsurc | but shutting them all down is a puzzler | 04:05 |
| tsurc | Idea is at 8pm server shuts down all the clients....8am Server starts all the clients. thus 12h of power saved every day... *week*month*year = allot of power saved | 04:06 |
| sbalneav | tsurc: Remembering that even if you shut them down, they're still using power | 04:09 |
| tsurc | wakeonlan was the easy part. (except its in universe) wakeonlan MACoClient MACoClient MACoClient etc = job done | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | Better solution would be to simply put a block-heater timer on the pwer for the lab table, and actually kill power to the table. | 04:09 |
| tsurc | yeh but no where near the level they would if they were on fully | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | As well, you can actually buy power-strips that are tcp/ip aware. | 04:10 |
| ogra | with running sshd ? *g* | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | The one I used to have had a telnet interface | 04:11 |
| tsurc | and it scores high for internal politics, that we don't have to change anything, just implement code | 04:11 |
| ogra | cool | 04:11 |
| tsurc | thats just bells and whistles ATM, my real problem lies with the onboard flash on these t5725's. When a user logsin they get them proudly displayed on their desktop. | 04:14 |
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| ogra | hmm, thats tricky, we dont have a blacklist meachanism for loca devices ... | 04:16 |
| ogra | i asume you want functionality for usbsticks etc ... | 04:17 |
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| tsurc | hey, really jut stuff that is plugged in "after" the user has logged in | 04:20 |
| tsurc | another thing I just noticed, is that the testuser I created can navigate into the Administrators home directory. | 04:22 |
| tsurc | changing the permissions on the folder solves this...... but should this happen out the box? | 04:23 |
| ogra | yup, we use the default umask value ubuntu uses ... you can change that in /etc/profile | 04:24 |
| ogra | man umask gves you info | 04:25 |
| ogra | *gives | 04:25 |
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| tsurc | right... any particular reason why? | 04:26 |
| ogra | just to stay conform with ubuntu defaults and ubuntu documentation | 04:27 |
| tsurc | just seems a bit odd on an edubuntu server install thats all | 04:27 |
| ogra | for the flashdisks you could try to edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client | 04:27 |
| ogra | find a line "/usr/sbin/delayed_mounter" | 04:27 |
| ogra | comment it | 04:27 |
| ogra | and reboot a client | 04:27 |
| ogra | if that works i'll make it a config option "EXCLUDE_STATIC_LOCALDEV" or so ... | 04:28 |
| ogra | (for gutsy) | 04:28 |
| tsurc | changed... rebooting now | 04:29 |
| tsurc | ;) works a treat | 04:32 |
| ogra | great | 04:33 |
| ogra | thanks for testing ... i add a patch to my local branch | 04:33 |
| tsurc | although I have the edubuntu-server-addon cd in the server right now, and the user can see it too. | 04:33 |
| ogra | yes, all users will see server sided devices | 04:33 |
| ogra | they are not handled by ltsp but by the default desktop | 04:34 |
| ogra | devices handled by ltspfs are only seen and accessible by the user who owns them ... | 04:35 |
| tsurc | yes.... but when "I" try to eject it it fails because apparently only testuser can do that. | 04:35 |
| ogra | sounds like a gnome bug | 04:35 |
| ogra | nautilus rather | 04:35 |
| tsurc | on the testusers desktop there is no left_click eject option | 04:36 |
| ogra | indeed | 04:37 |
| ogra | hmm | 04:37 |
| ogra | all you can do is eject it from the terminal ... | 04:37 |
| ogra | nautilus is patched to not show any eject items on thin clients ...since ltspfs doesnt use unmounting or ejecting | 04:38 |
| ogra | indeed that case wasnt planned :) | 04:38 |
| tsurc | anyway of finding out what packages are invloved to I can file a bug in the right place? | 04:38 |
| tsurc | .. and ejecting from the terminal works ;) thanks | 04:39 |
| ogra | file it against nautilus and add info that its caused by an ltsp patch and only happens on thin clients | 04:39 |
| ogra | it wouldnt happen if you were the only user on the server though ... | 04:40 |
| ogra | (the ture bug is that testuser got the device assigned) | 04:40 |
| ogra | you could disable device mounting in the gnome settings of testuser, that would prevent this bug i guess | 04:41 |
| ogra | (it wnt affect the thin client devices) | 04:42 |
| tsurc | how would i do that? | 04:42 |
| ogra | System->Settings->Removable devices ... | 04:43 |
| ogra | uncheck the options to automount devices and CDroms ... | 04:43 |
| ogra | if you now plug in the CD it should be owned by the admin user | 04:44 |
| tsurc | ;) that works | 04:49 |
| tsurc | still having problems with the screen viewer though. I get "Not Connected" ip, user, Unavailable (in red) install x11vnc on the client. Even though x11vnc is installed. | 04:55 |
| tsurc | * | 05:00 |
| tsurc | Is there any way of telling if a user has "OK"d a message sent through the thin-client-manager | 05:00 |
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| bonbonthejon | Any contribs around who have the current handbook? I think I found an error. | 09:32 |
| ogra | fle a bug against the edubuntu-docs package :) | 09:34 |
| ogra | *file | 09:34 |
| bonbonthejon | ok | 09:34 |
| bonbonthejon | I dont know where it is, I found the screenshot in the handbook | 09:35 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-docs/+filebug just describe it roughly ... if someone of the doc team has a question bout it they wil ask on the bug | 09:41 |
| ogra | ahm, bug 110352 :) | 09:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110352 in edubuntu-docs "Grammatical error in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110352 | 09:46 |
| ogra | oh, thats gnome-app-install, nice catch | 09:47 |
| bonbonthejon | I just did another one too | 09:52 |
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| bonbonthejon | bug 110357 | 09:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110357 in edubuntu-docs "Add link in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110357 | 09:52 |
| bonbonthejon | ogra: I have a little experience setting up a software RAID under Ubuntu server, would there be a place for a small tutorial? | 09:54 |
| ogra | look what on the wiki already ... | 09:56 |
| ogra | *what's | 09:56 |
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| bonbonthejon | ogra: the general ubuntu wiki? or does edubuntu have a wiki | 09:56 |
| ogra | they use the same database but different frontends and webservers | 09:57 |
| bonbonthejon | ok | 09:57 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: have you merged all the edu stuff for gutsy? | 10:44 |
| ogra | haha | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | that's what I thought | 10:45 |
| ogra | June 21st is merge end ... | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | ok | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | hopefully merges.ubuntu.com will be back up shortly | 10:47 |
| ogra | tomorrowit should be back | 10:48 |
| ogra | HD failure | 10:48 |
| LaserJock | mhm, I saw some emails to Debian about it | 10:48 |
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