=== n2diy_ [n=darryl@66.212.43.230] has joined #edubuntu === Majic [n=pants@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:40] how come I always miss the Edubuntu meetings? I want to toss my hat in for membership (for about 6 months now), but can never make it to a meeting [12:41] nixternal: you already have Edubuntu, via your Kubuntu memberhsip [12:41] also, LaserJock, any plans for 7.10? === Majic is now known as Grape_Juice [12:41] via Kubuntu and Ubuntu and Burgwork memberships ;) [12:41] wait a sec, you have membership in me? [12:41] LaserJock: that is for doc work? Kubuntu is solid and won't take to much from me this go round [12:41] not in you...OK, I am going to stop [12:42] trying to say it right still sounded wrong === Grape_Juice is now known as Apple_Juice === bimberi thinks nixternal just likes to collect memberships :) === Apple_Juice is now known as Orange_Juice [12:48] yes [12:48] muhehehe [12:48] it started out as a joke, but Burgwork made me want it (membership) even more. I want to be like him when I grow up [12:48] nixternal: you are twisted :) [12:49] you think? ;) [12:53] ya, you use KDE? [01:06] :P === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@87.217.235.197] has joined #edubuntu === Orange_Juice is now known as Magic === Magic is now known as Tink === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [01:23] aw, nixternal left [01:23] yay, he returns [01:24] Burgwork: it's not fair, I'm not an edubuntu or kubuntu member [01:24] oh man, I press the wrong button and everyone starts talking bad about me ;) [01:25] nixternal: of course [01:25] how else would we talk? === pygi burns ajmitch [01:25] hello pygi :) [01:26] ajmitch: how familiar are you with mysql? [01:26] haha [01:26] OK, class time [01:26] back in a bit [01:26] ajmitch, hi ^_^ [01:26] Burgwork: mysql & php are the bane of my life [01:26] I am having a headache installing joomla [01:27] ok [01:27] Burgwork, what's the problem? [01:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joomla <-- following this [01:28] I have created a mysql db [01:28] and yet is says "mysql unavailable" on the first page [01:28] on the joomla config wizard [01:29] restarted mysql, gave all rights to the user that joomla is using to access db, and such? [01:29] yep and yep [01:30] joomla is php? [01:30] ya [01:30] got the appropriate php-mysql installed? [01:31] now I feel stupid === Burgwork goes and hides [01:33] ok, that worked [01:33] excellent === ajmitch likes simple fixes [01:34] congrats Burgwork :) === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.2.83] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.83] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.83] has joined #edubuntu === Majic [n=pants@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === Majic is now known as Grape_Juice === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.2.83] has joined #edubuntu [05:10] nixternal: you sitll around? [05:12] Burgwork: you still around? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #edubuntu [06:35] highvolt1ge: ive fixed gizmo [06:35] highvolt1ge: well sort of, i now use ekig [06:35] ekiga* === bossie [n=hendrik@dsl-243-93-244.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === skwashd [n=skwashd@phpgroupware/skwashd] has joined #edubuntu [07:38] hi all [07:39] i have been trying to install edubuntu and i am not having much luck [07:39] nm [07:42] had my partioning wrong [07:42] 100M / not 100G :) === skwashd [n=skwashd@phpgroupware/skwashd] has left #edubuntu ["tia"] === anestis [n=mail@85.75.94.24] has joined #edubuntu === anestis [n=mail@85.75.94.24] has joined #edubuntu === skodak [n=skodak@147.77.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === skodak_ [n=skodak@147.77.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === anestis [n=mail@85.75.94.24] has left #edubuntu [] === skodak_ [n=skodak@147.77.broadband2.iol.cz] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === n2diy__ [n=darryl@ppp-42d42840.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-10-213.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:18] hi RichEd === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-240-70-76.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === mario [n=mario@83-131-22-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === mario is now known as ypgi === ypgi is now known as pygi === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-2fb6a41d263fc0ba] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Mez is now known as Mez|OnAir === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd -> Sevilla trip arrangements ... leaving tomorrow ... out for an hour or so === anestis [n=mail@athedsl-132729.home.otenet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === tsurc [n=administ@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [01:08] Ive just installed edu7.04 on a test server, and I'm having problems with the Screen Viewer. === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@239.Red-83-49-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === tsurc [n=administ@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] I'm having problems setting up Screen Viewer on edubunut7.04. I have followed the instructions here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients BUT NO JOY [02:48] sorry "but no joy" === Mez|OnAir is now known as Mez === th1a_ [n=hoffman@pool-72-87-80-48.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:51] tsurc:this is usng thin-client-manager? [03:52] yes, but weirdly and I don't know what I did...... but it works now [03:53] must live right 8~) [03:53] soccer playoffs on now? [03:54] get a small thumbnail from thin-client-manager.... note ip address of client. close thin-client manager. Fire up vncviewer ip:6 and your away. [03:55] all I need to do now I thing is sort out sound with websites using flash. Set the clients NOT to detect the on board flash, and workout how to turn all the clients of with a cron job. [03:56] *think [03:57] cliebow_: I haven't tried that script out yet you sent me. I have had a little read through and it look ok so far. [03:58] i cant remember..ohhh ldap.. [03:58] cliebow_: prefer rugby union (bit like american football minus the body armour, helmets and stuff) ;) [03:59] tsurc:death-wish football..my brother used to play === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:59] Morning all [04:00] My sister used to play for Lancaster University Womens squad. [04:00] Morning (Afternoon ?) [04:00] my old Teach gave a list of user@ws..id click on it..hit run and it would open up [04:00] Heya [04:00] sort of like mrs doubtfire..8~) [04:02] Well I know we have a love hate relationship, but she's not quite that bad. For a rugby player she's surprisingly feminine [04:03] cool.. [04:03] anyway, I havn't seen her for a bit, I'm more bothered about getting a cron job for shuting down the clients. [04:04] like an ssh -e to the client? [04:04] I've got waking them up ok. using wakeonlan on the server [04:04] cool [04:05] but shutting them all down is a puzzler [04:06] Idea is at 8pm server shuts down all the clients....8am Server starts all the clients. thus 12h of power saved every day... *week*month*year = allot of power saved [04:09] tsurc: Remembering that even if you shut them down, they're still using power [04:09] wakeonlan was the easy part. (except its in universe) wakeonlan MACoClient MACoClient MACoClient etc = job done [04:09] Better solution would be to simply put a block-heater timer on the pwer for the lab table, and actually kill power to the table. [04:09] yeh but no where near the level they would if they were on fully [04:10] As well, you can actually buy power-strips that are tcp/ip aware. [04:10] with running sshd ? *g* [04:11] The one I used to have had a telnet interface [04:11] and it scores high for internal politics, that we don't have to change anything, just implement code [04:11] cool [04:14] thats just bells and whistles ATM, my real problem lies with the onboard flash on these t5725's. When a user logsin they get them proudly displayed on their desktop. === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [04:16] hmm, thats tricky, we dont have a blacklist meachanism for loca devices ... [04:17] i asume you want functionality for usbsticks etc ... === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] hey, really jut stuff that is plugged in "after" the user has logged in [04:22] another thing I just noticed, is that the testuser I created can navigate into the Administrators home directory. [04:23] changing the permissions on the folder solves this...... but should this happen out the box? [04:24] yup, we use the default umask value ubuntu uses ... you can change that in /etc/profile [04:25] man umask gves you info [04:25] *gives === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu [04:26] right... any particular reason why? [04:27] just to stay conform with ubuntu defaults and ubuntu documentation [04:27] just seems a bit odd on an edubuntu server install thats all [04:27] for the flashdisks you could try to edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client [04:27] find a line "/usr/sbin/delayed_mounter" [04:27] comment it [04:27] and reboot a client [04:28] if that works i'll make it a config option "EXCLUDE_STATIC_LOCALDEV" or so ... [04:28] (for gutsy) [04:29] changed... rebooting now [04:32] ;) works a treat [04:33] great [04:33] thanks for testing ... i add a patch to my local branch [04:33] although I have the edubuntu-server-addon cd in the server right now, and the user can see it too. [04:33] yes, all users will see server sided devices [04:34] they are not handled by ltsp but by the default desktop [04:35] devices handled by ltspfs are only seen and accessible by the user who owns them ... [04:35] yes.... but when "I" try to eject it it fails because apparently only testuser can do that. [04:35] sounds like a gnome bug [04:35] nautilus rather [04:36] on the testusers desktop there is no left_click eject option [04:37] indeed [04:37] hmm [04:37] all you can do is eject it from the terminal ... [04:38] nautilus is patched to not show any eject items on thin clients ...since ltspfs doesnt use unmounting or ejecting [04:38] indeed that case wasnt planned :) [04:38] anyway of finding out what packages are invloved to I can file a bug in the right place? [04:39] .. and ejecting from the terminal works ;) thanks [04:39] file it against nautilus and add info that its caused by an ltsp patch and only happens on thin clients [04:40] it wouldnt happen if you were the only user on the server though ... [04:40] (the ture bug is that testuser got the device assigned) [04:41] you could disable device mounting in the gnome settings of testuser, that would prevent this bug i guess [04:42] (it wnt affect the thin client devices) [04:42] how would i do that? [04:43] System->Settings->Removable devices ... [04:43] uncheck the options to automount devices and CDroms ... [04:44] if you now plug in the CD it should be owned by the admin user [04:49] ;) that works [04:55] still having problems with the screen viewer though. I get "Not Connected" ip, user, Unavailable (in red) install x11vnc on the client. Even though x11vnc is installed. [05:00] * [05:00] Is there any way of telling if a user has "OK"d a message sent through the thin-client-manager === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu === Riverman [n=Administ@201-229-40-142.setardsl.aw] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=chatzill@adsl-68-251-144-188.dsl.bltnin.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === sampbar [n=sampbar@cpc3-oxfd4-0-0-cust495.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === Riverman [n=Administ@201-229-40-142.setardsl.aw] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@239.Red-83-49-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-2fb6a41d263fc0ba] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === mario [n=mario@83-131-65-235.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-143-204.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=Paul@pool137.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === bossie [n=hendrik@dsl-243-93-234.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=IceChat7@pool137.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === bonbonthejon [n=jon@69.61.203.3] has joined #edubuntu [09:32] Any contribs around who have the current handbook? I think I found an error. [09:34] fle a bug against the edubuntu-docs package :) [09:34] *file [09:34] ok [09:35] I dont know where it is, I found the screenshot in the handbook [09:41] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-docs/+filebug just describe it roughly ... if someone of the doc team has a question bout it they wil ask on the bug [09:46] ahm, bug 110352 :) [09:46] Launchpad bug 110352 in edubuntu-docs "Grammatical error in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110352 [09:47] oh, thats gnome-app-install, nice catch [09:52] I just did another one too === SimonAnibal_ [n=chatzill@adsl-68-251-144-188.dsl.bltnin.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:52] bug 110357 [09:52] Launchpad bug 110357 in edubuntu-docs "Add link in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110357 [09:54] ogra: I have a little experience setting up a software RAID under Ubuntu server, would there be a place for a small tutorial? [09:56] look what on the wiki already ... [09:56] *what's === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Adu"] [09:56] ogra: the general ubuntu wiki? or does edubuntu have a wiki [09:57] they use the same database but different frontends and webservers [09:57] ok === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-152-56-197.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu [10:44] ogra: have you merged all the edu stuff for gutsy? [10:45] haha [10:45] that's what I thought [10:46] June 21st is merge end ... [10:46] ok [10:47] hopefully merges.ubuntu.com will be back up shortly [10:48] tomorrowit should be back [10:48] HD failure [10:48] mhm, I saw some emails to Debian about it === HedgeMage [i=blah@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Lameiro [n=lameiro@c9539748.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d4293f.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu