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nixternalhola12:42
DaSkreechI'm late!12:42
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nixternalhaha12:43
neversfeldehm12:43
neversfeldewhat have I done?12:43
nixternalneversfelde: nothing, they just blame everyone but themselves12:43
neversfeldeok, it was my fault. Blame me whenever you like :)12:44
nixternalhahah, good deal12:44
neversfeldenot for me :D12:45
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giangyyawn06:11
jjessedon't know if anyone is intersetd or not but windows longhorn beta 3 went live today for free download06:11
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ScottKjjesse: What in the world is that?06:24
jjessenew version of windows server06:25
jjesseset to replace windows 200306:25
jjessein the server world06:25
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jjessereal quick how do i setup autologin in kubuntu?06:29
fdovingjjesse: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  AutoLoginEnable=true, AutoLoginUser=username06:49
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_StefanS_hey11:15
Jucatohi :)11:27
_StefanS_hi jucaco with the S3 IGP gfx adapter11:27
_StefanS_Joooocatooo11:28
_StefanS_so have you been behaving lately ?11:28
Jucatolol11:30
Jucatohm.. slow week :)11:30
Jucatoor rather, slow but busy week11:30
_StefanS_slow but busy .. okay!11:31
_StefanS_slow and busy with being slow, or just busy ?11:31
Jucatolet's just put it this way. I want to week to end already, but it's still a long time before Sunday :(11:32
_StefanS_hehe, okay are you waiting for something ?11:33
_StefanS_I just bought a PS3 that I'm getting today.11:33
Jucatowaiting for the week to end so that all the stuff I need to do would be over... so that I could get back to C++ and MOTU :(11:34
_StefanS_oh yes I see ..11:34
Jucatowow PS3 (late reaction)11:34
_StefanS_sometimes #kubuntu can be really frustrating.. the other day I just came online to fix my firewall, but I ended up doing 2hours of kubuntu support in there..11:35
_StefanS_jeez11:35
_StefanS_well I'm looking forward to see how it does with the kubuntu/ps3 live cd11:35
Jucatohahah good luck. might be fun :D11:35
_StefanS_yea11:36
_StefanS_tough to be on work...11:36
_StefanS_not :)11:36
_StefanS_I'm actually trying to fix some issues with the logout thing11:37
_StefanS_won't seem to go away ehhe11:37
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viviersfRiddell, ping11:42
viviersfRiddell, i need to query your brain11:42
Riddellhi viviersf11:43
viviersfwhats the url for your kubuntu repository11:43
viviersfi wanna know how you generate Release11:43
viviersfand Release.gpg plz11:43
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/11:44
Jucatoquery Riddell's brain... there should be an ubotu factoid for that :)11:44
Riddelllook at the bottom of ARCHIVE11:44
Riddellapt-ftparchive release -c dists/edgy/apt.conf dists/edgy/ > dists/edgy/Release11:44
RiddellI just set up apt.conf manually11:44
RiddellI don't know if this is the best way to do it, there may well be a better way, but it seems to work for me11:45
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viviersfta Riddell, if it works im happy11:46
Riddellviviersf: just copy that ARCHIVE file and adapt to your needs11:47
viviersfviviersf, k11:47
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viviersfRiddell, bleh : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!11:54
viviersfRiddell, i cant get that error away11:54
Riddellviviersf: you need to import the key that you signed the releases file with into apt11:56
viviersfi do have it11:56
viviersfimported11:56
viviersf:(11:57
Riddellapt doesn't think so :)11:57
Riddellcan I see the archive?11:57
viviersfhow can i show you ?11:57
viviersfRiddell, i asume if it downloads the release and the release.gpg file everything is fine ?11:59
Riddellshould be yes12:00
Riddellviviersf: put it on a web server12:00
viviersfk hold plz12:01
viviersfRiddell, just have to push it quick12:02
viviersfRiddell, pvt12:05
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mhbafternoon01:34
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Riddellhmm, 3.5.7 delayed02:58
Riddellto just when I'm on holiday02:58
Hobbseehah02:58
Hobbseewhen are you on holiday, then?02:58
Riddellafter UDS03:01
Hobbseeah03:01
Riddellmm, I have a couple days at the end to do it03:03
Riddellbut if someone fancies doing the feisty packages at least that would be lovely03:04
Hobbseedunno about doing it03:04
Hobbseebut helping out would be fun03:04
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Riddellplenty of normal gutsy merges to do of course03:05
Hobbseetrue03:05
Hobbseey'know, people seem to have these really odd looks of surprise when i tell them i'm taking time off work03:05
Hobbsee"what for?"  "oh, to go to spain"03:05
Riddellsounds good so far03:06
Hobbseewhat does?03:06
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Riddellgoing to spain does03:06
kwwiimy parents still look at me funny when I talk about my job03:09
Hobbseeahh03:10
Hobbseeyou mean it wont, when i'm there?03:10
Riddellpeople might look at you funny when you say you're going to spain to plan the downfall of microsoft and the liberation of the world's software03:11
kwwiilol03:11
Hobbseeheh03:11
kwwiiCLF - computer liberation front03:11
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Hobbseekwwii: heh.03:30
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bddebianHeya04:00
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giangy'evening05:00
manchicken_Morning :)05:01
manchicken_Aren't timezones fun?05:01
Hobbseehi manchicken_05:02
Hobbseehi giangy05:02
manchicken_Howdy Hobbsee :)05:02
manchicken_8 days until I hop the plane to go have beers with some truely awesome folks :)05:03
manchicken_Oh, and get stuff done, too.05:03
Hobbsee:)05:03
Hobbsee6 for me05:03
manchicken_Timezones strike again!05:04
Hobbseeheh05:04
Hobbseeand i get in a day early05:04
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manchicken_It'll be weird being in the same timezone as everybody else.05:04
Hobbseeidneed!05:04
manchicken_I think we've all kinda adjusted our hacking schedules to accommodate each other.05:04
manchicken_I know I have :)05:04
manchicken_Mornings and early afternoons are Q&A time for JR :)05:05
manchicken_heh05:05
Hobbsee:P05:05
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manchickenI'm getting folks ready for the Ubuntu-Illinois LoCo meeting that I'm hosting.05:06
manchickenThat's gonna be fun.05:06
Tm_Tschedule? what's that, something eatable?05:06
Hobbseedunno05:06
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Tm_Thmh, anyone know if there's backported Irssi somewhere?06:24
fdovingare there any changes to it?06:24
fdovingi'm interessted too. if it's backported to dapper.06:24
Tm_Tnew version, isn't that enough?!06:24
Tm_T;)06:24
nixternalTm_T: I have the new version already built ;)06:26
fdovingnixternal: packaged?06:26
nixternalyup06:26
fdovingpublished?06:26
nixternalit is on my lappy, so after class I will upload to my server so you can get it06:26
fdovinggreat.06:26
nixternalactually, let me pull the lappy out right now and do it06:26
nixternalI am not listening in class anyways06:26
fdovingplease mention my name when you post the link. :)06:26
fdovingi'm off for food etc.06:27
fdovingkthnxbye.06:27
nixternalhehe06:27
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nixternalfdoving: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/irssi_0.8.11/06:35
nixternalknow that I just put something small in the changelog, so it really isn't proper06:35
nixternalhowever it works and it updates ;)06:35
nixternalI had to remove all but 2 patches06:35
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fdovingnixternal: great. i don't care about the changelog, will only be installed on my server. thanks :)06:57
nixternalno prob06:57
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mhbnixternal: what's new in it?07:52
mhbnixternal: irssi07:52
mhbnixternal: did you notice any new "killer" features?07:53
fdovingmhb: http://irssi.org/news/ChangeLog07:56
mhbfdoving: the thing I hate about changelogs - all features are treated equal :o)07:57
fdovingyes, because it's up to the reader to decide what's the killer feature :)07:57
fdovingi belive it's more or less bugfixes.07:58
mhbfdoving: I always thought the "killer" feature means that it improves stuff for most, if not for all07:59
fdovingi'll retart my irssi now in a few min.07:59
mhbfdoving: but that's completely OT07:59
mhb:o)07:59
fdovingthen there are no killer features :)07:59
fdovingbrb. irssi upgrade :)07:59
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giangy20:01:37 Irssi uptime: 60d 8h 51m 46s08:01
giangyI'll upgrade later heh :P08:01
fdovingmine was at 83 days or something.08:02
fdovingmake that 86.08:02
fdovingi know it can run forever. i don't have to prove it over and over again :)08:03
DaSkreechYes you do08:04
DaSkreech just two or there forever's back to back should do it though08:05
DaSkreech!info vdrift08:05
ubotuPackage vdrift does not exist in feisty08:05
DaSkreech!info vdrift-data08:05
ubotuvdrift-data: Data files for vdrift, a racing simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2006.02.21-1 (feisty), package size 42475 kB, installed size 67176 kB08:05
DaSkreechStrange08:05
nixternalmhb: nothing killer that I could see08:09
nixternalsome bug fixes that I never experienced either :)08:09
fdovingso.. kubuntu.org is "temporarily unavailable."08:10
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nixternallooks like it08:13
nixternalso far it has been like that since this morning for me08:13
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ArbyI'm trying to triage an adept bug, where does adept send it's logs to?08:54
Arbydpkg.log?08:54
Arbyspecifically it's bug 108185.08:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 108185 in adept "Adept fails to install ubuntu-restricted-extras although apt-get installs it just fine." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10818508:55
Arbywhich I thought had been fixed.08:55
RiddellArby: it doesn't really have logs although dpkg.log may help08:56
Riddellthat should be fixed if you have libqt-perl installed08:56
Riddellask if there's any output in the embedded konsole about debconf frontends08:57
ArbyOK I'll ask about those things, thanks Riddell.08:57
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froudwhat 'appened to http://www.kubuntu.com/09:45
stdinfroud: .com?09:48
kwwii.org is down as well09:48
stdinahh, so it is09:49
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kwwiiRiddell: do you know that kubuntu.org is down?09:49
stdinprobably recovering after the feisty installfest09:49
froudfinall got feist installed09:50
froudupgrade from adept is not a good idea09:50
froudupgrade crashed while shutdown and replace of Samba and had to reinstall from ISO09:51
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manchickenI think I found an artsd bug.10:08
manchickenI keep blaming it on ATI, but I think it's very possible that it's artsd.10:08
manchickenBecause killing all artsd processes several times seems to cause the problem to fix itself.10:08
crimsunit might help to describe the problem.10:14
manchickenAll of a sudden no sound will come up.  Looks like everything is waiting for something.  Amarok, when I hit play, sits there and does nothing.  normal system sounds don't show up, and knotify hangs.10:19
crimsunright, and is this a snd-via82xx system?10:20
manchickenIf I kill all four knotify, katapult, kopete, and amarok, and then sudo killall -9 artsd once and wait for all of the artsmessage processes to run their course, everything just starts working again and I can start katapult, kopete, and amarok again and it works fine.10:20
manchickenNaw.10:20
yuriyhow would that have to do with ati o_O10:20
manchickenatiixp10:20
manchickenyuriy: I'm using an ATI sound-card.10:20
yuriydidn't know they make sound cards..10:21
manchickenUntil I got this piece of rubbish I didn't either.10:21
crimsuntechnically they don't; they manufacture incredibly crappy codecs that are sometimes used in ac'97-based audio cards.10:22
manchickenYes, this is ac'97 based.10:22
manchickenOther than how to regain control,10:22
manchickenI haven't found any other paterns.10:22
manchickenpatterns*10:22
crimsunhmm, anything in dmesg regarding the codec?10:22
crimsungotta return to a meeting, but I'll be back in four hours [to read scrollback] 10:23
DaSkreechIt's not it's an Intel card and ATI makes the chipset but not the DSp10:28
DaSkreechmethinks10:28
manchickenNot really.10:28
manchickenATIIXP: not 100% native mode: will prob10:29
manchickene irqs later10:29
manchickenThat's the closest thing I see to an error.10:29
manchickenAnd that was a boot message.10:30
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Riddellkwwii: have a nice holiday10:43
kwwiiRiddell: thanks, looking forward to quality time with the family...see you in Seville10:44
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Tm_TRiddell: if I apply for membership, do you think I'm ok without wikipage?10:53
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Tm_TI have problems with it10:55
ryanakcaTm_T: I've always thought you were a member :)10:59
Tm_Tryanakca: you're not the only one =)11:00
RiddellTm_T: no, everyone needs a wiki page, else we don't know who you are11:00
Tm_Thmh11:00
Tm_TI'm so unknown :(11:00
Riddellthat's not what I mean11:01
Tm_TI know what you mean :)11:01
Tm_TI do have wikipage but its empty11:02
Tm_Thmh, should fill it with what I have been doing all these years11:02
Riddellthat's the idea11:02
Tm_Tyup, but I have problems with that11:02
Riddellimbrandon: you up now?11:04
Tm_Tryanakca: never felt I have done enough for being member11:05
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Riddellanyone have a phone number for imbrandon?11:08
Tm_The's again missing?11:08
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Tm_Toh well, sir Riddell saves the day :)11:15
ajmitchRiddell: well, I just found his phone number :)11:20
Riddellajmitch: ping him!11:21
ajmitchnothing...11:22
Tm_Tajmitch: if you can find phonenumber of his neighbour...11:23
ajmitchI guess he just slept through an alarm again11:23
ajmitchhaha11:23
Tm_Tthat's what we have to do in time to time11:23
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manchickenRiddell: Who would I ask about general questions for the hotel?11:48
manchickensuch as what voltage their outlets are, what type of plug they use, etc.11:49
Riddell230V in europe11:52
Riddellplug is european (like US but round pins)11:53
Riddellask claire newman such questions11:53
Luremanchicken: google is your friend ;-)11:55
manchickenOkay, those are just straight European standards?11:55
manchickenLure: Believe me, I tried to search.11:55
manchickenDo hotels usually have adapters for clueless Americans?11:56
otma_some11:56
Luremanchicken: they might11:56
manchickenOkay, good, my lappy AC adapter can take up to 240V.11:56
Luremanchicken: I always buy new one when I am in US ;-)11:57
manchickenLure: You know who would carry those in the US?11:57
manchickenI would say Radio Shack, but these days Radio Shack is little more than a wiring and mobile phone store.11:57
Luremanchicken: you can get them on airports and radioshack or similar should have them too11:57
manchickenI think it'd be best if I got one before I left.11:58
Luremanchicken: they probably have all-in-one kits though (more $$$, not so useful if you do not travel a lot)11:58
manchickenMy mobile phone will be nothing but a PDA when I'm over there, so I don't need to worry about its AC adapter.11:59
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Tm_Thi emonkey-f and welcome12:01
emonkey-fTm_T, hi and thx12:01
=== apacheLAGger [n=me@N741P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Tm_TapacheLAGger: SON!12:04
=== Tonio_ [n=tonio@mon75-1-87-91-246-70.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Lurehi Tonio_12:07
Tonio_hi Lure :)12:07
manchickenIs the adapter one of these three? http://images.bestbuy.com:80/BestBuy_US/images/products/7759/7759035_sa.jpg12:08
manchickenerr, shape12:08
=== Lure is waiting for Tonio_'s upload flood ;-)
otma_manchicken: middle one, but its a nasty angle to judge12:09
LureTonio_: when feisty started, you had most of your spec's implemented in couple of days ;-)12:09
Riddellah, emonkey-f is here12:09
Tonio_Lure: lot of work atm12:09
LureTonio_: new job?12:09
Tonio_I'll probably wait for next WE or maybe the UDS12:10
Tonio_Lure: yep :)12:10
Tonio_hey Riddell12:10
LureTonio_: good - I am busy with vacations ;-)12:10
Tonio_hehe :)12:10
manchickenTonio_: It looks like we're rooming.12:11
Luremanchicken: you do not know in what you are going into...12:12
manchickenLure: Oh?12:12
=== Lure was Tonio_'s roommate at uds-mtv ;-)
manchickenMTV?12:12
manchickenheh12:12
LureMt View12:12
manchickenAh.12:12
Luremanchicken: I am just teasing Tonio_12:13
manchickenWell, he can't snore any louder than my wife, and there's no way he could fart more than my dog, so I think I'm good.12:13
Luremanchicken: I am not sure for the later...;-)12:13
manchickenLure: You've never met my dog.12:14
Lurelol12:14
manchickenLure: What's funnier is that I'm serious.12:15
manchickenheh12:15

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