[12:42] <nixternal> hola
[12:42] <DaSkreech> I'm late!
[12:43] <nixternal> haha
[12:43] <neversfelde> hm
[12:43] <neversfelde> what have I done?
[12:43] <nixternal> neversfelde: nothing, they just blame everyone but themselves
[12:44] <neversfelde> ok, it was my fault. Blame me whenever you like :)
[12:44] <nixternal> hahah, good deal
[12:45] <neversfelde> not for me :D
[06:11] <giangy> yawn
[06:11] <jjesse> don't know if anyone is intersetd or not but windows longhorn beta 3 went live today for free download
[06:24] <ScottK> jjesse: What in the world is that?
[06:25] <jjesse> new version of windows server
[06:25] <jjesse> set to replace windows 2003
[06:25] <jjesse> in the server world
[06:29] <jjesse> real quick how do i setup autologin in kubuntu?
[06:49] <fdoving> jjesse: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  AutoLoginEnable=true, AutoLoginUser=username
[11:15] <_StefanS_> hey
[11:27] <Jucato> hi :)
[11:27] <_StefanS_> hi jucaco with the S3 IGP gfx adapter
[11:28] <_StefanS_> Joooocatooo
[11:28] <_StefanS_> so have you been behaving lately ?
[11:30] <Jucato> lol
[11:30] <Jucato> hm.. slow week :)
[11:30] <Jucato> or rather, slow but busy week
[11:31] <_StefanS_> slow but busy .. okay!
[11:31] <_StefanS_> slow and busy with being slow, or just busy ?
[11:32] <Jucato> let's just put it this way. I want to week to end already, but it's still a long time before Sunday :(
[11:33] <_StefanS_> hehe, okay are you waiting for something ?
[11:33] <_StefanS_> I just bought a PS3 that I'm getting today.
[11:34] <Jucato> waiting for the week to end so that all the stuff I need to do would be over... so that I could get back to C++ and MOTU :(
[11:34] <_StefanS_> oh yes I see ..
[11:34] <Jucato> wow PS3 (late reaction)
[11:35] <_StefanS_> sometimes #kubuntu can be really frustrating.. the other day I just came online to fix my firewall, but I ended up doing 2hours of kubuntu support in there..
[11:35] <_StefanS_> jeez
[11:35] <_StefanS_> well I'm looking forward to see how it does with the kubuntu/ps3 live cd
[11:35] <Jucato> hahah good luck. might be fun :D
[11:36] <_StefanS_> yea
[11:36] <_StefanS_> tough to be on work...
[11:36] <_StefanS_> not :)
[11:37] <_StefanS_> I'm actually trying to fix some issues with the logout thing
[11:37] <_StefanS_> won't seem to go away ehhe
[11:42] <viviersf> Riddell, ping
[11:42] <viviersf> Riddell, i need to query your brain
[11:43] <Riddell> hi viviersf
[11:43] <viviersf> whats the url for your kubuntu repository
[11:43] <viviersf> i wanna know how you generate Release
[11:43] <viviersf> and Release.gpg plz
[11:44] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/
[11:44] <Jucato> query Riddell's brain... there should be an ubotu factoid for that :)
[11:44] <Riddell> look at the bottom of ARCHIVE
[11:44] <Riddell> apt-ftparchive release -c dists/edgy/apt.conf dists/edgy/ > dists/edgy/Release
[11:44] <Riddell> I just set up apt.conf manually
[11:45] <Riddell> I don't know if this is the best way to do it, there may well be a better way, but it seems to work for me
[11:46] <viviersf> ta Riddell, if it works im happy
[11:47] <Riddell> viviersf: just copy that ARCHIVE file and adapt to your needs
[11:47] <viviersf> viviersf, k
[11:54] <viviersf> Riddell, bleh : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:54] <viviersf> Riddell, i cant get that error away
[11:56] <Riddell> viviersf: you need to import the key that you signed the releases file with into apt
[11:56] <viviersf> i do have it
[11:56] <viviersf> imported
[11:57] <viviersf> :(
[11:57] <Riddell> apt doesn't think so :)
[11:57] <Riddell> can I see the archive?
[11:57] <viviersf> how can i show you ?
[11:59] <viviersf> Riddell, i asume if it downloads the release and the release.gpg file everything is fine ?
[12:00] <Riddell> should be yes
[12:00] <Riddell> viviersf: put it on a web server
[12:01] <viviersf> k hold plz
[12:02] <viviersf> Riddell, just have to push it quick
[12:05] <viviersf> Riddell, pvt
[01:34] <mhb> afternoon
[02:58] <Riddell> hmm, 3.5.7 delayed
[02:58] <Riddell> to just when I'm on holiday
[02:58] <Hobbsee> hah
[02:58] <Hobbsee> when are you on holiday, then?
[03:01] <Riddell> after UDS
[03:01] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:03] <Riddell> mm, I have a couple days at the end to do it
[03:04] <Riddell> but if someone fancies doing the feisty packages at least that would be lovely
[03:04] <Hobbsee> dunno about doing it
[03:04] <Hobbsee> but helping out would be fun
[03:05] <Riddell> plenty of normal gutsy merges to do of course
[03:05] <Hobbsee> true
[03:05] <Hobbsee> y'know, people seem to have these really odd looks of surprise when i tell them i'm taking time off work
[03:05] <Hobbsee> "what for?"  "oh, to go to spain"
[03:06] <Riddell> sounds good so far
[03:06] <Hobbsee> what does?
[03:06] <Riddell> going to spain does
[03:09] <kwwii> my parents still look at me funny when I talk about my job
[03:10] <Hobbsee> ahh
[03:10] <Hobbsee> you mean it wont, when i'm there?
[03:11] <Riddell> people might look at you funny when you say you're going to spain to plan the downfall of microsoft and the liberation of the world's software
[03:11] <kwwii> lol
[03:11] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:11] <kwwii> CLF - computer liberation front
[03:30] <Hobbsee> kwwii: heh.
[04:00] <bddebian> Heya
[05:00] <giangy> 'evening
[05:01] <manchicken_> Morning :)
[05:01] <manchicken_> Aren't timezones fun?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hi manchicken_
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hi giangy
[05:02] <manchicken_> Howdy Hobbsee :)
[05:03] <manchicken_> 8 days until I hop the plane to go have beers with some truely awesome folks :)
[05:03] <manchicken_> Oh, and get stuff done, too.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:03] <Hobbsee> 6 for me
[05:04] <manchicken_> Timezones strike again!
[05:04] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:04] <Hobbsee> and i get in a day early
[05:04] <manchicken_> It'll be weird being in the same timezone as everybody else.
[05:04] <Hobbsee> idneed!
[05:04] <manchicken_> I think we've all kinda adjusted our hacking schedules to accommodate each other.
[05:04] <manchicken_> I know I have :)
[05:05] <manchicken_> Mornings and early afternoons are Q&A time for JR :)
[05:05] <manchicken_> heh
[05:05] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:06] <manchicken> I'm getting folks ready for the Ubuntu-Illinois LoCo meeting that I'm hosting.
[05:06] <manchicken> That's gonna be fun.
[05:06] <Tm_T> schedule? what's that, something eatable?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> dunno
[06:24] <Tm_T> hmh, anyone know if there's backported Irssi somewhere?
[06:24] <fdoving> are there any changes to it?
[06:24] <fdoving> i'm interessted too. if it's backported to dapper.
[06:24] <Tm_T> new version, isn't that enough?!
[06:24] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:26] <nixternal> Tm_T: I have the new version already built ;)
[06:26] <fdoving> nixternal: packaged?
[06:26] <nixternal> yup
[06:26] <fdoving> published?
[06:26] <nixternal> it is on my lappy, so after class I will upload to my server so you can get it
[06:26] <fdoving> great.
[06:26] <nixternal> actually, let me pull the lappy out right now and do it
[06:26] <nixternal> I am not listening in class anyways
[06:26] <fdoving> please mention my name when you post the link. :)
[06:27] <fdoving> i'm off for food etc.
[06:27] <fdoving> kthnxbye.
[06:27] <nixternal> hehe
[06:35] <nixternal> fdoving: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/irssi_0.8.11/
[06:35] <nixternal> know that I just put something small in the changelog, so it really isn't proper
[06:35] <nixternal> however it works and it updates ;)
[06:35] <nixternal> I had to remove all but 2 patches
[06:57] <fdoving> nixternal: great. i don't care about the changelog, will only be installed on my server. thanks :)
[06:57] <nixternal> no prob
[07:52] <mhb> nixternal: what's new in it?
[07:52] <mhb> nixternal: irssi
[07:53] <mhb> nixternal: did you notice any new "killer" features?
[07:56] <fdoving> mhb: http://irssi.org/news/ChangeLog
[07:57] <mhb> fdoving: the thing I hate about changelogs - all features are treated equal :o)
[07:57] <fdoving> yes, because it's up to the reader to decide what's the killer feature :)
[07:58] <fdoving> i belive it's more or less bugfixes.
[07:59] <mhb> fdoving: I always thought the "killer" feature means that it improves stuff for most, if not for all
[07:59] <fdoving> i'll retart my irssi now in a few min.
[07:59] <mhb> fdoving: but that's completely OT
[07:59] <mhb> :o)
[07:59] <fdoving> then there are no killer features :)
[07:59] <fdoving> brb. irssi upgrade :)
[08:01] <giangy> 20:01:37 Irssi uptime: 60d 8h 51m 46s
[08:01] <giangy> I'll upgrade later heh :P
[08:02] <fdoving> mine was at 83 days or something.
[08:02] <fdoving> make that 86.
[08:03] <fdoving> i know it can run forever. i don't have to prove it over and over again :)
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Yes you do
[08:05] <DaSkreech>  just two or there forever's back to back should do it though
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !info vdrift
[08:05] <ubotu> Package vdrift does not exist in feisty
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !info vdrift-data
[08:05] <ubotu> vdrift-data: Data files for vdrift, a racing simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2006.02.21-1 (feisty), package size 42475 kB, installed size 67176 kB
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Strange
[08:09] <nixternal> mhb: nothing killer that I could see
[08:09] <nixternal> some bug fixes that I never experienced either :)
[08:10] <fdoving> so.. kubuntu.org is "temporarily unavailable."
[08:13] <nixternal> looks like it
[08:13] <nixternal> so far it has been like that since this morning for me
[08:54] <Arby> I'm trying to triage an adept bug, where does adept send it's logs to?
[08:54] <Arby> dpkg.log?
[08:55] <Arby> specifically it's bug 108185.
[08:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108185 in adept "Adept fails to install ubuntu-restricted-extras although apt-get installs it just fine." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108185
[08:55] <Arby> which I thought had been fixed.
[08:56] <Riddell> Arby: it doesn't really have logs although dpkg.log may help
[08:56] <Riddell> that should be fixed if you have libqt-perl installed
[08:57] <Riddell> ask if there's any output in the embedded konsole about debconf frontends
[08:57] <Arby> OK I'll ask about those things, thanks Riddell.
[09:45] <froud> what 'appened to http://www.kubuntu.com/
[09:48] <stdin> froud: .com?
[09:48] <kwwii> .org is down as well
[09:49] <stdin> ahh, so it is
[09:49] <kwwii> Riddell: do you know that kubuntu.org is down?
[09:49] <stdin> probably recovering after the feisty installfest
[09:50] <froud> finall got feist installed
[09:50] <froud> upgrade from adept is not a good idea
[09:51] <froud> upgrade crashed while shutdown and replace of Samba and had to reinstall from ISO
[10:08] <manchicken> I think I found an artsd bug.
[10:08] <manchicken> I keep blaming it on ATI, but I think it's very possible that it's artsd.
[10:08] <manchicken> Because killing all artsd processes several times seems to cause the problem to fix itself.
[10:14] <crimsun> it might help to describe the problem.
[10:19] <manchicken> All of a sudden no sound will come up.  Looks like everything is waiting for something.  Amarok, when I hit play, sits there and does nothing.  normal system sounds don't show up, and knotify hangs.
[10:20] <crimsun> right, and is this a snd-via82xx system?
[10:20] <manchicken> If I kill all four knotify, katapult, kopete, and amarok, and then sudo killall -9 artsd once and wait for all of the artsmessage processes to run their course, everything just starts working again and I can start katapult, kopete, and amarok again and it works fine.
[10:20] <manchicken> Naw.
[10:20] <yuriy> how would that have to do with ati o_O
[10:20] <manchicken> atiixp
[10:20] <manchicken> yuriy: I'm using an ATI sound-card.
[10:21] <yuriy> didn't know they make sound cards..
[10:21] <manchicken> Until I got this piece of rubbish I didn't either.
[10:22] <crimsun> technically they don't; they manufacture incredibly crappy codecs that are sometimes used in ac'97-based audio cards.
[10:22] <manchicken> Yes, this is ac'97 based.
[10:22] <manchicken> Other than how to regain control,
[10:22] <manchicken> I haven't found any other paterns.
[10:22] <manchicken> patterns*
[10:22] <crimsun> hmm, anything in dmesg regarding the codec?
[10:23] <crimsun> gotta return to a meeting, but I'll be back in four hours [to read scrollback] 
[10:28] <DaSkreech> It's not it's an Intel card and ATI makes the chipset but not the DSp
[10:28] <DaSkreech> methinks
[10:28] <manchicken> Not really.
[10:29] <manchicken> ATIIXP: not 100% native mode: will prob
[10:29] <manchicken> e irqs later
[10:29] <manchicken> That's the closest thing I see to an error.
[10:30] <manchicken> And that was a boot message.
[10:43] <Riddell> kwwii: have a nice holiday
[10:44] <kwwii> Riddell: thanks, looking forward to quality time with the family...see you in Seville
[10:53] <Tm_T> Riddell: if I apply for membership, do you think I'm ok without wikipage?
[10:55] <Tm_T> I have problems with it
[10:59] <ryanakca> Tm_T: I've always thought you were a member :)
[11:00] <Tm_T> ryanakca: you're not the only one =)
[11:00] <Riddell> Tm_T: no, everyone needs a wiki page, else we don't know who you are
[11:00] <Tm_T> hmh
[11:00] <Tm_T> I'm so unknown :(
[11:01] <Riddell> that's not what I mean
[11:01] <Tm_T> I know what you mean :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> I do have wikipage but its empty
[11:02] <Tm_T> hmh, should fill it with what I have been doing all these years
[11:02] <Riddell> that's the idea
[11:02] <Tm_T> yup, but I have problems with that
[11:04] <Riddell> imbrandon: you up now?
[11:05] <Tm_T> ryanakca: never felt I have done enough for being member
[11:08] <Riddell> anyone have a phone number for imbrandon?
[11:08] <Tm_T> he's again missing?
[11:15] <Tm_T> oh well, sir Riddell saves the day :)
[11:20] <ajmitch> Riddell: well, I just found his phone number :)
[11:21] <Riddell> ajmitch: ping him!
[11:22] <ajmitch> nothing...
[11:23] <Tm_T> ajmitch: if you can find phonenumber of his neighbour...
[11:23] <ajmitch> I guess he just slept through an alarm again
[11:23] <ajmitch> haha
[11:23] <Tm_T> that's what we have to do in time to time
[11:48] <manchicken> Riddell: Who would I ask about general questions for the hotel?
[11:49] <manchicken> such as what voltage their outlets are, what type of plug they use, etc.
[11:52] <Riddell> 230V in europe
[11:53] <Riddell> plug is european (like US but round pins)
[11:53] <Riddell> ask claire newman such questions
[11:55] <Lure> manchicken: google is your friend ;-)
[11:55] <manchicken> Okay, those are just straight European standards?
[11:55] <manchicken> Lure: Believe me, I tried to search.
[11:56] <manchicken> Do hotels usually have adapters for clueless Americans?
[11:56] <otma_> some
[11:56] <Lure> manchicken: they might
[11:56] <manchicken> Okay, good, my lappy AC adapter can take up to 240V.
[11:57] <Lure> manchicken: I always buy new one when I am in US ;-)
[11:57] <manchicken> Lure: You know who would carry those in the US?
[11:57] <manchicken> I would say Radio Shack, but these days Radio Shack is little more than a wiring and mobile phone store.
[11:57] <Lure> manchicken: you can get them on airports and radioshack or similar should have them too
[11:58] <manchicken> I think it'd be best if I got one before I left.
[11:58] <Lure> manchicken: they probably have all-in-one kits though (more $$$, not so useful if you do not travel a lot)
[11:59] <manchicken> My mobile phone will be nothing but a PDA when I'm over there, so I don't need to worry about its AC adapter.
[12:01] <Tm_T> hi emonkey-f and welcome
[12:01] <emonkey-f> Tm_T, hi and thx
[12:04] <Tm_T> apacheLAGger: SON!
[12:07] <Lure> hi Tonio_
[12:07] <Tonio_> hi Lure :)
[12:08] <manchicken> Is the adapter one of these three? http://images.bestbuy.com:80/BestBuy_US/images/products/7759/7759035_sa.jpg
[12:08] <manchicken> err, shape
[12:09] <otma_> manchicken: middle one, but its a nasty angle to judge
[12:09] <Lure> Tonio_: when feisty started, you had most of your spec's implemented in couple of days ;-)
[12:09] <Riddell> ah, emonkey-f is here
[12:09] <Tonio_> Lure: lot of work atm
[12:09] <Lure> Tonio_: new job?
[12:10] <Tonio_> I'll probably wait for next WE or maybe the UDS
[12:10] <Tonio_> Lure: yep :)
[12:10] <Tonio_> hey Riddell
[12:10] <Lure> Tonio_: good - I am busy with vacations ;-)
[12:10] <Tonio_> hehe :)
[12:11] <manchicken> Tonio_: It looks like we're rooming.
[12:12] <Lure> manchicken: you do not know in what you are going into...
[12:12] <manchicken> Lure: Oh?
[12:12] <manchicken> MTV?
[12:12] <manchicken> heh
[12:12] <Lure> Mt View
[12:12] <manchicken> Ah.
[12:13] <Lure> manchicken: I am just teasing Tonio_
[12:13] <manchicken> Well, he can't snore any louder than my wife, and there's no way he could fart more than my dog, so I think I'm good.
[12:13] <Lure> manchicken: I am not sure for the later...;-)
[12:14] <manchicken> Lure: You've never met my dog.
[12:14] <Lure> lol
[12:15] <manchicken> Lure: What's funnier is that I'm serious.
[12:15] <manchicken> heh