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Daisuke_IdoFX series wasn't exactly happy12:13
wolferinebobbyd, man rm12:14
wolferinethen read it12:14
franzmaximilianbobstro: that's what i suspected....  not worth the effort12:14
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wolferineso you understand something about linux, other than how to connect to irc :)12:14
DragnslcrHow do you actually enable Beryl? I got the packages, but I can't find where to actually turn it on12:14
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wolferineDragnslcr, Gnome?12:14
DragnslcrKDE12:14
Daisuke_Idoooh, found my neil young cds.  time to rip :D12:14
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wolferineDragnslcr, you can start the beryl-manager on boot12:15
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DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- damn you, I can't find the CD's I need to re-rip12:15
franzmaximilianyeti: any experience with an AMD kernel on an old Duron machine?  Any noticeable improvement?12:15
wolferinethen you will find an icon near your clock...12:15
bobstrofranzmaximilian: yeah, i'm happy it does KDE well enough, but the extra eyecandy is pushing it. esp. with 256MB ram.12:15
ficoproba12:15
boblenywolferine: How do I clean "/temp"?12:15
wolferineor just start the beryl-manager from cli12:15
wolferinebobleny, in man rm12:15
wolferineread it12:15
wolferinelearn12:15
wolferineself-educate12:15
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bobstrofranzmaximilian: if it's a dog with kde or gnome, try xubuntu perhaps12:16
bobstrobobleny: /temp or /tmp?12:16
wolferinebobstro, he really needs to learn to do stuff on his own12:16
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franzmaximilianbobstro: irt runs decently with kde12:16
wolferineto be honest12:16
Phtonwhats extra in Kubuntu DVD?12:16
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bobstrowolferine: i agree, but the difference might be significant!12:16
boblenywolferine: "rm" short for remove. rm [directory]  [file] 12:17
Daisuke_Idothat's one thing that's always bothered me.  no, linux isn't just for smart people (as has been suggested), but it is for those that are willing to do a little reading and learn some things12:17
Dragnslcrwolferine- is ~/.kde/Autostart good enough, or do I actually have to put it in init.d?12:17
wolferinebobleny, man rm12:17
boblenywolferine: What more do I need to know about rm?12:17
wolferineDragnslcr, im not sure12:17
bobstrowolferine: i'm just wondering why it's not clearing at boot if /tmp?12:17
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: you're fine with autostart12:17
wolferinebobstro, its not setup that way12:17
Phtonwhats extra in Kubuntu DVD?12:17
bobstrowhat else do you need to know about a loaded gun? :)12:17
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wolferinePhton, google it12:18
Daisuke_Idoextra packages that wouldn't fit on the cd12:18
Daisuke_Idosmoke break!12:18
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DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- can I just symlink to the executable?12:19
oofusHi all. Can anybody tell me how to enable Compiz or Beryl in Kubuntu 7.04. Or at least point me to info on how to do it. Thanks.12:19
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PhtonThe DVD has the whole main repository and has ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu12:19
Eruantalon!beryl12:19
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:20
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danishhow can i play wmv files on kubuntu12:20
oofusthank you12:21
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yeti!wmv12:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
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david__Okay thanks everybody.  I was able to set the thing to log in to KDE.12:21
Phton!rm12:21
yetidanish: please read the first link that ubotu provided12:21
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:21
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Phton!ram12:22
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html12:22
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david__Is there a way I can switch the login screen to G instead of K tho?12:22
Phton!real media12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
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cps1966!rm12:23
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:23
cps1966!codecs12:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:24
Toyd!ati12:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:24
Toyd!beryl12:24
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:24
Toyd!aiglx12:24
ubotuAIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl12:24
Toyd!beryl wiki12:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl wiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:24
Toyd!botabuse12:25
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...12:25
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Toyd:O12:25
Toydthanks ubotu12:25
Toyd!richard stallman12:25
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Toydrichard stallman made it all possible12:25
Toyduboto12:25
Toydubotu12:26
Toydyou should know about him12:26
Toydits disrespectfull not to know12:26
Toydabout him12:26
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danishok i read the guid on wiki beryl buts its for ubuntu and settings are on gnome can any body tell me of kubuntu beryl12:27
david__Ubotu, you're the best!12:27
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graftkubuntu beryl is an exciting character12:27
david__I want to make sweet sweet love to you, Ubotu!12:27
graftdanish: just run beryl-manager when you start up... works for me12:27
Toyddanish,  i have the same problem12:27
ian__is beryl any good?12:28
Toydgraft,  that was like a windows answer to a linux problem :P12:28
graftToyd: uh... no, that was a linux answer12:29
Toydthats like saying i clicked next next and it worked for me12:29
Toydi mean it might work for you and you alone12:30
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graftToyd: that's the only way i know of to do it12:31
Daisuke_IdoToyd: the proper anwser is actually to put beryl-manager in the autostart, it's not a windows answer12:31
DragnslcrToyd- from what I've been told, you can just link to /usr/bin/beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart/12:31
Daisuke_Idoi rest my case12:31
DragnslcrI haven't tried it yet though12:31
grafti stand vindicated12:31
Toydwhy isnt this documented???!?!?12:31
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graftit's all over the net, hermano12:31
DragnslcrI will admit, it'd be nice if the settings program had a checkbox to do it for you12:32
graftberyl isn't integrated into kde yet12:32
Toydno because i have the same problem as danish  the wiki are all for gnome and not kde12:32
graftand probably won't be12:32
graftso it's hackish by nature12:32
Toydits confusing12:32
DragnslcrIt's the simple things like that that get annoying12:32
graftyeh... kubuntu is like the bastard child of ubuntu12:32
graftyou get the leftover rotten vegetables12:32
Toydlol12:32
grafthand-me-down clothes, etc.12:32
DragnslcrMy current biggest annoyance is having to set every window that pops up to remember size and position12:33
Toydbut kde is so much better than gnome12:33
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Daisuke_IdoToyd: that's purely a matter of opinion12:33
Daisuke_Idothough i happen to agree12:33
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graftobviously we all think that, since we're here in #kubuntu12:33
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ToydDaisuke_Ido,  gnome doesnt have amarok for example the best music player in the world12:34
graftbut kde has serious problems that gnome does not... like the fact that they don't know a damn thing about interface design12:34
DragnslcrI'm in #ubuntu too...12:34
shydogneed some help with scanner12:34
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graftyeah, but you're running KDE, ain't ya, Dragnslcr ?12:34
DragnslcrWell yeah12:34
graftyou're only in #ubuntu cuz kubuntu is the bastard child and the support here is not as good12:34
DragnslcrI haven't looked at Gnome in years12:34
Toydlol graft12:34
graftat least that's why i usually end up in #ubuntu12:35
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Toydhmz well if nalioth is here12:35
Toydi dont have to go to ubuntu12:35
Toydsome knowledgeable people here12:35
graftyeah, i'm not maligning this channel really, there are some knowledgable people here12:35
graftbut ubuntu is primarily a gnome project12:36
graftand that's what's pushed heavily12:36
shydogcan anybody help me with installing my scanner12:36
graftso naturally most of the users and most of the support is directed there12:36
Toydwell thats should be the case gnome is just the gui12:36
graftshydog: did you do that xsane dealy?12:36
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danishtoyd: http://www.getautomatix.com/12:37
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Toydi tried to set up beryl on ubuntu and had plenty of help still wouldnt work12:37
LjL!automatix12:37
ubotuAutomatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:37
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Toydlol12:37
danishtoyd: for some reason on ubuntu it flickers and exits back to gnome12:37
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_Neilsometimes, rhythmbox just disappears. Anyone know why this could be, or how to diagnose the problem?12:37
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theamazingpotatohello12:37
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stephanebonsoir  tous !12:38
Toyddanish i tried a preconfigured ubuntu+beryl its called uberyl and that worked for me12:38
Daisuke_Ido!fr | stephane12:38
ubotustephane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:38
shydogdownloaded driver and is recognized by usb , but when try and scan something, it will not let me12:38
danishtoyd: i don't like ubuntu my favorite apps are in kde12:38
Toydyeah12:38
Daisuke_Ido!worksforme12:38
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:38
Toydi think it uses kubuntu danish12:38
Toydit has kde12:38
danishtoyd whree did u get it from12:39
theamazingpotatocan someone help me12:39
graftshydog: scanning with what?12:39
theamazingpotatoim having problem with the sound12:39
shydogHP437012:39
theamazingpotatoits so low12:39
graftshydog: what software, i mean?12:39
Dragnslcrtheamazingpotato- check the mixer settings in KMix and/or alsamixer12:39
shydogsane sight says driver for 3900 will work12:39
theamazingpotatoill try that12:39
DragnslcrYay! I crashed Amarok!12:40
shydogopenoffice12:40
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Daisuke_Idoi've found it hard to crash amarok lately12:40
graftshydog: try kooka12:40
Daisuke_Idoused to be, if i looked at it wrong, kablooie!12:40
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DragnslcrI tried adding .mp3 files to a playlist12:40
shydogok12:40
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grafthm i can almost always get it to crash by using the 'undo' function12:41
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theamazingpotatonope12:41
theamazingpotatowont help12:41
shydogbe back if doesn't work, thanks for your help12:41
Daisuke_Idoof course, it was usually a crash related to the scope of my collection :\12:41
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Daisuke_Idoprobably work faster if i used mysql as the backend rather than sqlite12:41
DragnslcrYeah, think I just had to restart it after installing libxine-ffmpeg12:42
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Daisuke_Idogoing to need a bigger hard drive for music :\12:43
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DragnslcrIs there a way to make all windows use detailed view?12:43
DragnslcrKDE seems to not do global window settings very well12:43
jordo23_I have a link to a mounted HD on my desktop. When I open it with Konq, it won't give me the option to create folders and stuff.....it says the drive is owned by me too......any ideas?12:44
SkyblastDragnslcr: set it to the view mode you want then go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management"12:44
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DragnslcrSkyblast- yeah, I just thought of that12:44
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Toydso is there any bsd software i can use on linux???12:45
dugis there a way to keep the open applications in the taskbar dependant on which desktop your viewing?12:45
DragnslcrIs there a decent GUI tool for mounting smb shares?12:45
theamazingpotatomy card is HDA Intel12:45
Toyddug???12:45
GrahamADragnslcr: Umm... why do you need one?12:45
Toydelaborate12:45
GrahamADragnslcr: All it takes it one line.12:45
theamazingpotatoand the chip is  Realtek ALC86112:46
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DragnslcrGrahamA- I'm attempting a "newbie" experience with Kubuntu. That way I can help friends with it12:46
dugwhat im getting at is the running applications that switch between under this bar12:46
DragnslcrTrying to use the shell as little as possible12:46
danishwhat simple do guys recommend for a begginner gnu c99 learner12:47
dugis there a way to make it so that only whats on the desktop im using contains these instead of all desktops displaying all programs?12:47
Skyblastdug: Click on the leftpart of the taskbar where it starts showing your applications and click Configure Taskbar. Uncheck "Show windows from all Desktops"12:47
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: the one line is in konqueror12:47
ToydDragnslcr, lets start a new distro12:47
danishwhat simple *IDE12:47
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dugah thanks sky12:47
Daisuke_Idosmb:/<share>12:47
ToydDaisuke_Ido,  you want in aswell12:47
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Daisuke_Idonope, i like the cli12:47
Toydcompilerwriter,  you want to joij12:47
Toydjoin*12:47
Toyddanish, Skyblast12:47
dugyour a life saver12:47
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Toydlets start a new distro12:47
Toyd:P12:47
DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- yeah, but that requires a password every time12:47
ToydeMaX, you want in12:48
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GrahamADragnslcr: K Menu > System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems12:48
SkyblastWhy? I love my Kubuntu. :)12:48
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Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: no it doesn't :)  sudo -s12:48
compilerwritertoyd join what?12:48
Toydmy new distro12:48
comodocan anyone tell me how to extract the files out of an iso12:48
DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- heh, meant the password to the share12:48
Daisuke_Idoah12:48
Daisuke_Idoyeah12:48
danishtoyd, skyblast lol funny name but i'll look it up12:48
compilerwriterWhat sort of distro are you working on?12:48
Ashexwhat's the command to add a user to a group?12:48
Toydmy new system will be able to run osx apps windows apps do directx10 games and linux12:49
Toydit will also play xbox360 and ps3 games12:49
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SkyblastWill it be my wife as well? :P12:49
Toydand of course you can attach a wii mote and play wii games12:49
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Toyd:P12:49
doug_so... Konversation has coloured nicks?12:50
SkyblastI'd also like an Emergency Medical Holigram, like the one on Voyager hehe12:50
theamazingpotatoya but theres a program that makes the wiimote work with pc12:50
Toydi arent supposed to tell you guys this but12:50
Toydbut i am using a special app12:50
Toydto talk to people in the past i am from the future12:50
doug_SWEET JESUS12:50
doug_that would be worth millions12:50
SkyblastAre alien chicks hawt in the future?12:51
Toydlol12:51
doug_it must be true... because no one lies on the internet12:51
doug_LOL12:51
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Toydlol12:51
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tonyyarussocomodo: Use the mount command with the loop option12:52
tonyyarusso!mountiso12:52
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:52
Skyblasthmm, while I'm here, does anyone know why K Torrent is so very bad at staying connected to peers?12:52
tonyyarussocomodo: then just look in the directory created, and cp to whereever you want them after that.12:52
SkyblastIt downloads and uploads in spurts12:52
SkyblastAnd yes, I put my forwarded port in12:53
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tonyyarussoAshex: sudo adduser theusername thegroupname12:53
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Toydwhat would you do if you only had 3 years left to live?12:54
intelikeywell after testing (actually revisiting) mdk's urpmi i can see why i never had any rtubble with it   unlike apt it simply refuses to remove anything marked as needed.12:54
intelikeyremoving package basesystem-10.0-0.2mdk.i586 will break your system12:54
intelikeyNothing to remove12:54
tonyyarussoToyd: I'd probably ask silly questions in #kubuntu-offtopic instead of disturbing help channels, if you get my drift ;)12:55
Alarmwhat settings should i change so that the menus wont look like buttons as here: http://www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot1.png12:55
Alarmi changed some styles and window decorations but somehow i cant find. and its the same in every application12:55
red22tough question12:55
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intelikeytoyd that's possably the most profound question that has been asked in here to date.12:56
compilerwriterintelikey you are here.12:56
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Toydlol12:56
DragnslcrGrahamA- using the disk manager to mount smb shares seems to be rather broken12:56
compilerwriterintelikey do you have any clue what in hell is going on with the Monitor & Display Module?12:56
intelikeycompilerwriter no.    i really not ~12:57
danishtoyd automatix has some cool stuff12:57
red22makes me feel ashamed i'm only here to ask about a silly computer program hehe12:57
DragnslcrGrahamA- entering all the details and clicking OK seems to do nothing, and trying to scan for shares drops me out of admin mode12:57
GrahamADragnslcr: Yeah it's shit, although it takes 20 seconds to add something to the /etc/fstab file.12:57
Toydtonyyarusso, i thought we decided that when people have real issue on kubuntu they end up in #ubuntu12:57
DragnslcrHm, maybe I just have to wait longer12:57
intelikeycompilerwriter actually no.    all joking aside.   i have never seen edgy to feisty12:57
GrahamADragnslcr: Or, try pressing "mount" :)12:57
intelikeys/to/or/12:57
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Daisuke_IdoToyd: since when is it up to you to decide things like that?12:58
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DragnslcrGrahamA- the only buttons on the dialog are OK and Cancel12:58
red22my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?12:58
Toydits open source no one is the boss we share leadership in here12:58
compilerwriterintelikey I get the message that an error occured during an upgrade orphaning a module or there are third party modules lying about.  How would I look for those?12:59
Toydwe all have the freedom to change12:59
Toydthings12:59
Toydthats what linux is all about12:59
Daisuke_Idothis is irc12:59
tonyyarussoWell, more about sharing source than leadership and decision making.  A lot of that too, but it's not a free for all.12:59
intelikeycompilerwriter deborphan maybe ?     or debfoster    idk.01:00
intelikeycompilerwriter the package manager might have a trick up it's sleeve   did you look there ?01:00
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Toydlinus torvalds is a relative of mine01:00
Daisuke_Idogood for you01:00
SkyblastMaybe we should add an anti-annoying clause to the GPL :P01:01
compilerwriterThe package manager intelikey?  Now I am lost01:01
Daisuke_IdoSkyblast: RMS would have to renounce the GPL if that happened01:01
compilerwriterintelikey deborphan did nothing01:01
compilerwriterneither did debfoster01:01
ToydDaisuke_Ido, rms is my pal01:02
intelikeytoyd    i offically abdocate.   you may now rule supreeme as the  offtopic/monolog  king.01:02
Toydme and rms went to India once and just danced and watched bollywood movies01:02
Daisuke_IdoToyd: don't care, don't care, don't care.01:02
intelikeycompilerwriter that only leaves the package manager01:02
jaevelanyone know if there is a list of firmware for dvd roms that dont work with ubuntu????01:02
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Daisuke_Idoif you want to wax random, do it in #kubuntu-offtopic01:03
jaevelmostly the NEC type?01:03
theamazingpotatoi checked alsamixer01:03
compilerwriterintelikey dpkg01:03
Daisuke_Idothis is a help channel, and you're no help.01:03
intelikeycompilerwriter synaptic  or  adept01:03
intelikeycompilerwriter possabley aptatude01:03
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Toydhttp://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armystoryim9.jpg01:03
compilerwriterWell somehow adept got locked up on me and I had to do the thing to unlock it.01:04
red22my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?01:04
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intelikeyoooh yuch   "the thing" to unlock it....01:04
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compilerwriterintelikey I had to go to help site and follow that procedure.  I have no clue exactly what I did, but that seemed to fix the adept thing.  I answered yes to all the new stuff figuring it had somehow partially crapped out in the feisty upgrade.01:06
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Toydubotu spammed me: ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:06
intelikeyrandom yes's in the processes......01:07
intelikeyi think this was a bad idea ?01:07
intelikeyremoving module-init-tools-3.0-1mdk.i58601:07
intelikeymodprobe may be needed....01:07
compilerwriterok intelikey I have synaptic fired up.  Now what?01:07
intelikeycheck for broken packages01:08
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compilerwriterHow does one do that intelikey?  I have always used adept.01:08
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intelikeycompilerwriter i'm not even in a *ubuntu system right now.   much less in a gui.    see if you can't find it in the "synaptic menus"01:10
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jaevelanyone know why my system would hang during boot at "Checking File System"?01:11
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jaevelafter upgrade from 6.10 to 7.0401:11
compilerwriterI found a status bar that says none of my packages is broken.01:11
Daisuke_Idojaevel: let it run, it's probably running fsck01:12
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jaevelbeen going for 2 days now01:12
Daisuke_Idooookay01:12
Daisuke_Idothen again, maybe not01:12
intelikeycompilerwriter hmmm   ok.   view the installed packages and reinstall the ones related to kcontrol01:12
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compilerwriteruninstall them and then reinstall intelikey?01:13
tmbghow big is your disk? :P01:13
intelikeycompilerwriter no just reinstall will sufice.01:13
Daisuke_Idothat's kind of personal, don't you think?01:13
drewcipherjaevel: got stuck there 10% for over a day.    went the lazy route and did a fresh.  feel like a puss now.01:13
Daisuke_Idoi'll shut up now01:13
ToydGnu/stallmans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5eLn1QMJS001:14
jaevelim gonna lose it all i guess... :/01:14
Toydgreat tune01:14
Daisuke_IdoToyd: knock it off already.01:14
Daisuke_Ido!offtopic | Toyd01:14
Toydlyrics by rms01:14
ubotuToyd: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:14
jaevelto top it all, ubuntu doesnt like my dvd rom...01:14
jaeveland will not reload....01:15
intelikeywell time to go.01:15
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intelikeycompilerwriter i'll be back in a few.  if you are still having trubble i'll "TRY" to help.   but i hope you get it all streight before i get back.01:16
delphinepls... why phpmyadmin is installed but no files in /var/www ?01:16
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graftdelphine: probably it sets it up somewhere else and just uses a <Directory> line in your apache config01:17
delphinegraft: thanks, now open httpd.conf01:19
theamazingpotatothe sound is still low01:20
delphinewhy /etc/apache2/httpd.conf have only 1 line?01:20
delphinei know apache 1.x, where is config file here? :(01:21
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csingleybobstro: thanks for the partimage ref; i'll look into it (sorry got ambushed there)01:23
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Alarmi did something with the Kmenu , and now the "system settings" shortcut , that opens a window, is like a folder with subdirectories , like the category "internet" . with the only difference it includes the things that also the system settings includes, look and feel, administration , services and so on. how could i restore that ? or if someone could tell me what is in the properties of the "System settings" in the kmenu written , to fix it01:26
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theamazingpotatosounds still not working right01:30
homerohola01:31
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theamazingpotatoits so low01:31
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homerose puede chatear en espaol?01:31
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Skyblast!es01:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:32
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surgyhi01:33
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surgyi need help extracting an iso image from a cd01:33
ErtainDoes anyone do hibernate in Feisty?  Every time I try to go into hibernation it says I need the "resume=" option with my kernel.01:34
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Ertain!hibernate01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
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nuu!hybernate01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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ardchoilleHow do I get my web browser to parse php files instead of trying to download them? I have installed apache2 and php501:41
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drewcipherarchoille:  what web browser?01:43
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Trubadurixhi01:43
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ardchoilledrewcipher: Firefox01:43
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ardchoilleWell, konqueror won't open php files either.01:44
ardchoilleBoth will open index.html but neither will open index.php01:45
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Trubadurixi install kubuntu, i put my firmware files in, i reboot and: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon  [faild]     and then   Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd               and it dont come longer it just stand there  ??? why?01:46
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drewcipherarchoille:  no magic bullet.  I had that problem on my FreeBSD box and trying to find the solution in my notes (which may not help I realize).  It seems hit or miss for people.01:48
elvisI try upgrading to edgy from dapper using gksu "update-manager -c"01:48
elvisand i get errors about failing to fetch some files01:48
Dragnslcrardchoille- do you have the appropiate AddType line in your httpd.conf file?01:48
elviscan anyone help me out01:48
eljefe_has anyone had problems burning DVD+R in a fresh K7.04 install?01:48
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eljefe_i cannot burn neither VideoDVDs in k3b, nor make ISO images in k9copy.01:49
drewcipherarchoille:  I doubt it is this easy but gotta throw it out there:    SHIFT-RELOAD01:49
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ardchoilleDragnslcr: I have installed apache2 and php with the exact same steps on Ubuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper and httpd.conf has always been empty.01:50
eljefe_elvis whats up?01:50
ardchoilledrewcipher: What is SHIFT-RELOAD?01:50
eljefe_[shirf]  is a key01:50
ardchoille/ignore eljefe_01:50
ardchoille:P01:50
eljefe_[reload]  is a button on the browser.  hold [shift]  and click [reload] 01:50
elvisI use gksu "update-manager -c"  to try and upgrade, but i get fail to fetch 3 files during upgrade01:50
elvishow do i make it fetch these files01:51
eljefe_ardchoille: whats that for?01:51
elvisFailed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found01:51
ardchoilledrewcipher: What does SHIFT-RELOAD do?01:51
elvisFailed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found01:51
elvisFailed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/aiglx/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found01:51
drewcipherit reloads the page when cached locally.01:51
eljefe_thats maybe OK... First,did you upgrade happen, Elvis?01:52
ardchoilledrewcipher: Ah, ok. Well, I don't allow firefox to save cache after it exits.01:52
elvisno once that pops up it stops01:52
elvisit says error during update and has a close button01:52
drewcipherardchoille:  yeah, figured that would have been too easy.  and closing Firefox would do it too.  back to the books.01:53
Kr4t05Hrm, this can't be good... Whenever I start a KDE application, I get a dialog that says, in not so few words, that ~/.kde/share/config/<app>rc is not writable, as well as ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals01:53
eljefe_elvis: k.  Two things with this.  Your upgrade needs to happen ONLY from the Ubuntu repositories, so those fetchings of bluntkind and berly repositories (the errors above) are not supposed to be used.01:53
Kr4t05Should I re-mount /?01:53
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eljefe_elvis: BUT because you have included these things in your current installation, it is almost certain that the upgrade will fail.  In my opinion.01:54
eljefe_elvis: i'd say don't do it.01:54
RevaHello. Can anyone help me configure a Linksys PCI Wireless Network card? I can't get it to work.01:54
eljefe_install fresh..  you have a seperate /home partiton or a way to back up, right?01:54
eljefe_download a CD from bittorrent (look for KTorrent)01:55
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elvisi think i was just using them to try installing beryl01:55
eljefe_(in your KMenu)01:55
elviswhich didnt work01:55
eljefe_elvis: still... i wouldn't01:55
eljefe_elvis: i had very few outside packages in and myne did Not Work.01:55
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elvisThanks for the warning eljefe01:56
eljefe_BUT... try it; comment out those repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list and try the update.  If it fails, take the outher path ;)01:56
elvisok im going to do it01:56
eljefe_you have a /home partition?01:56
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elvisim not sure01:57
eljefeelvis: have you been to the command line?  i want one command from you there.01:58
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eljefekonsole: type 'df' (no quotes) and let me know what it says01:58
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elvisif your looking for a /home after i type df.... none there01:59
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eljefehumm.01:59
BloodyTuxhello01:59
jessaihi01:59
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eljefeyou don't want to lose your data, do you?  make a backup of everything... and if you DO have to reinstall, then you'll lose EVERYTHING but you have the chane to make a seperate partition for a /home...02:00
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jessaii need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?02:00
smoalnehello02:00
eljefeso maybe _don't_ go for it unless you're sure that you wanna deal with.. .a whole new OS.  Me, I love it.  Not everyone.02:00
jessai i need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?02:01
elvisClean slates are always nice in my opinion02:01
eljefebackup your data, thats all.02:01
LjL!helpme02:01
SkyblastSeperate /home is a life saver02:01
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:01
eljefecool.02:01
BloodyTuxeljefe what's going on, maybe i can put in some insight02:01
eljefeelvis: listen to Skyblast :)02:01
eljefeHey Bloody, thanks!02:01
Ashexjessai, what do you need help with exactly?02:01
elvisok02:01
SkyblastMe Feisty upgrade bombed horrible, I just downloaded the CD ISO, reinstalled, pointed my mount points back, and voila! Instant Feisty!02:02
elvisI just now am able to understand what you guys are talking about02:02
jessaiin host what i supouse to put to check hotmail?02:02
eljefeWell I have a pretty fresh install of 7.04 with the Medibuntu parts installed also.  My k9copy cannot make a DVD-iso (and crashes if I play too much in the Settings)02:02
elvisIll definately do it next time i need to02:02
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ToydMicrosoft is claiming that Linux has code in it that belong to Microsoft... we ask them to prove this, we ask them to SHOW US THE CODE!!02:02
Toydwww.showusthecode.com02:02
elvisbut for right now im fine with even losing all my files02:02
Black_Maskeljefe you're talking about feisty?02:03
Ace2016hi all02:03
Ace2016is it ok to remove /home/ace/Desktop02:03
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Ace2016its messing up my home dir02:03
eljefeBloodyTux: and now I went to burn a DVD+R with k3b and _it_ claims not to have all the necessary files...02:03
BloodyTuxhmmmm02:03
eljefeBlack_Mask: Yes, Feisty.02:03
eljefeKubuntu02:03
eljefeBloodyTux: I don't know if they're both the cdrecord/wob?? package, or seperate issues?02:03
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epimethahoy again...02:04
Black_MaskToyd: when are they gonna sue the GNU/Linux users community?02:04
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ubuntu_so why doesn't konqueror work in feisty02:04
epimethhows everybody doing?02:04
eljefeAce2016: you can, yes.  But anything that you (or, user 'ace')see on the desktop is gone.02:04
Toydlol02:04
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eljefeepimeth: :)02:04
eljefeAce2016: its just another folder which is always open02:05
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eljefeon the desktop02:05
BloodyTuxi would try reinstalling k3b and if the doesn't work try using a different buring software, try sourceforge or search google for 'linux dvd burning'02:05
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eljefeBloodyTux: that bl0ws! I heart k3b!02:06
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BloodyTuxthe thing is is if it's DVD+R it could be that the burner you have is a) not compatible with DVD, b) not working right, or c) k3b doesn't have the exact file it needs to write to a dvd+r02:06
Ashexjessai, check hotmails website for the settings02:06
eljefeBloodyTux: heres a better idea maybe... how do I _downgrade_ k3b away from Medibuntu package?02:07
BloodyTuxthat might work02:07
Ashexspecify the version you want02:07
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eljefeBloodyTux: ah its worked before, its the software...02:07
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Ashexlike sudo apt-get install k3b=1.00302:07
AshexI think02:07
eljefeBloodyTux: oh i was hoping that you'd know02:07
Ashexlemme double check that02:07
BloodyTuxbrb02:07
eljefeAshex: thanks... lemme know dawg lemme know!02:07
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eljefeyouse ever use Yakuake?  its fantastic.02:08
Black_MaskToyd Microsoft isn't gonna show you or anyone the violation in code. They are gonna set up a closed-door meeting with major GNU/Linux distribution companies such as Redhat and Canonical, show them the proof and tell them 'look this is how tommorrow I'm gonna slap you with a billion dollar lawsuit in which you must fail because this time we are prepared. there is no way you are gonna win and prove that GNU/Linux community hasn't02:08
Black_Maskviolated the software patents. now you have two options: either stay away from us, remain enemies and get defeated in the lawsuit or befriend us and create a closed-source Windows Linux 2008 for us and here is 10 million dollars in advance'02:08
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eljefeBlack_Mask: the blasphemy!02:09
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Ashexeljefe, that's correct, you should create a preferences file in apt (/etc/apt/preferences) too to make sure it works02:09
Toydyeah Black5un02:09
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ToydBlack_Mask,02:09
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Ashexlet me see if I can find more info on the preferences file02:09
graft!offtopic02:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:10
eljefedo i have to?02:10
graftwhat, there's a kubuntu-offtopic?02:10
Toydgraft actually it is ontopic02:10
Toyd!ontopic02:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:10
epimethBlack_Mask: or not... SCO tried that and IBM b*tchslapped them so hard their shareholder's grandchildren felt it02:10
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graftToyd: bullshooting about microsoft/SCO is not really ontopic, eh02:10
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Toydgraft you dont understand the seriousness of the situation02:11
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Black_Masklol bullshoot02:11
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Toydnalioth,02:11
Toydtell graft its serious please02:11
Toydnalioth,  where have you been02:12
theamazingpotatobye02:12
naliothToyd: i've been here since a long time ago (barring some restarts)02:12
Toydok02:12
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graftToyd: what situation?02:13
ubuntu_I  am running the live feisty cd and finally got the wireless working.  so i open konqueror and try to goto kubuntu forms  but it won't connect, yet here i am chatting. whats up with that02:13
Ashexeljefe, http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man5/apt_preferences.5.html02:13
AshexThat's info on setting up a preferences file02:13
Toydgraft scroll up and read what blackmask posted02:14
Ashexit's not as complicated as it sounds though02:14
epimethsoooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)02:14
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epimethhowever, the sound isn't working02:14
epimethits a realtek card... not sure on the specifics02:14
graftToyd: yeah, that's just cloud talk, man... that's not a desperate situation02:14
eljefeAshex: yes?  (ps what version of k3b do i want? that last one didn't work and Adept didn't tell me of others avail even tough I stopped the Medibuntu repo?)02:14
Ashexeljefe, for an example of one, look at the section on downgrading in this wiki: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL#Adding_the_Beryl_Project_repositories02:14
Ashexhmm02:14
eljefewonderful, thank you02:14
eljefeAshex: I have to go, my friends chilling here and bored with me :)02:15
eljefeAshex: thank you, I'll follow up on it!02:15
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Ashexeljefe, no problem :)02:16
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ubuntu_no one else having trouble with konquero02:17
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dwidmanneljefe: what kind of trouble?02:17
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epimethubuntu_: whats the problem?02:17
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_Neilhttp://librarian.launchpad.net/7408582/gdb-rhythmbox.txt rhythmbox segfaults with this.. any ideas anyone?02:19
ubuntu_i installed feisty on a laptop and took forever to get the wireless working.  when i did konqueror would not make conection to browse but swift fox could.   now i am running live cd and same thing konqueror won't browse but the chat works.02:19
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eljefeAshex: and dwidmann: ok well.. now it IS burning a regular (old) ISO file onto the DVD... so they must be seperate issues (burning VidioDVD files vs 'burning' an ISO within K9copy)  Thnaks again!!02:20
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Ashexah, that may be seperate issues02:20
Ashexnot a problem02:20
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AshexI'm in here a lot so just send me a message if anything comes up :)02:20
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K`zanAnyone else get "Mount point 0 does not exist" upon boot?  Putzed with fstab and the message is useless for figuring out where the problem is :-(.  Any thoughts appreciated.02:21
K`zanGoogle was no help either :-(.02:21
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AshexK`zan, I'm about to leave02:24
Ashexbut, check the uuid in fstab and menu.lst02:24
stanleyhey guys02:24
stanleyi am having an adept problem02:24
Ashexmake sure all the mount points (/dev/foo) are real too02:24
ubuntu_i get 'An error occurred while loading http://kubuntuforums.net: " when using konq02:24
epimethubuntu_: that is odd... is it for all sites or just a few02:24
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stanleyis says another program is using the package database when there isn't one doing so02:24
stanley#adept02:24
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Admiral_Chicagostanley:02:25
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Admiral_Chicagoerr02:25
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Admiral_Chicago!fixadeptcrash02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixadeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
Ahmuckdoes kubuntu repositories have mambo ?02:25
Admiral_Chicagowhat si that one again..02:25
Admiral_Chicago!fix adept lock02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix adept lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
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nosrednaekimhey.... i'm having a problem with my ATI (fglrx) driver02:27
Admiral_Chicagosudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:27
epimethubuntu_: how are you connecting to the internet?02:27
nosrednaekimwhen I log out, it gives me a blank screen, no KDM, the screen isn't off... its black02:27
Admiral_Chicagobut he is gone now02:27
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nosrednaekimcard is an Xpress1100, driver is the one included in fiest (8.34.)02:28
Admiral_ChicagoAhmuck: not that I could find02:28
nosrednaekimctrl alt bkspce doesn't work.02:29
nosrednaekimneither does alt-f202:29
nosrednaekimor even ctrl-alt bkspce for that matter02:29
nosrednaekimany ideas?02:30
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Admiral_Chicagonosrednaekim: i don't have any02:30
Admiral_Chicagosorry02:30
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: any ideas with my little audio problem?02:30
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: and its good to see you agai... been a while02:31
nosrednaekimok..02:31
Admiral_Chicagoepimeth: can you respond with ti02:31
Admiral_Chicago!ati02:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:31
Admiral_Chicagonosrednaekim: maybe the binary will hely02:31
BloodyTuxhey nosrednaekim, fglrx is for radeon 9500 or higher02:31
Admiral_Chicagohelp*02:31
Admiral_Chicagoi've been busy with school work epimeth :(02:31
nosrednaekimI know... this is a xpress mobile chipset, not a X*****02:31
epimethsoooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)02:31
BloodyTux!fglrx02:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:31
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nosrednaekimit worked with edgy02:32
epimethhowever, the sound isn't working02:32
epimethits a realtek card... not sure on the specifics02:32
nosrednaekimepimeth: doesn't work at all?02:32
nosrednaekimtry headphones02:32
Admiral_Chicagoepimeth: alsamixer in a konsole02:32
Admiral_Chicagomuted maybe02:32
_Neilhi guys how can i remove old kernels (pre feisty)?02:32
_Neili have 3 listed in grub now!02:33
nosrednaekimits really just an annoyance as I never log off (just suspend)02:33
ubuntu_any ideas why konqueror won't connect02:33
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mcrandello_Neil, the easiest way would be through whatever package manager you're using, synaptic, adept02:33
mcrandellothat *should* remove them from the menu.lst as well02:33
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nosrednaekimcould it possibly have something to do with DPMS?02:33
_Neilmcrandello: what packages am i looking for?02:33
epimethits not just that, either... the volume control only lowers and raises by 10%  (ie only back and forth from 0 to 10 or 50 to 60 or 90 to 100)02:33
mcrandello_Neil, I just search for "kernel" and find them from the resulting list02:34
_Neillinux-image packages?02:34
_Neiltheres loads for kernel...02:34
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: alsomixer is open... now what?02:34
mcrandelloI think those are the ones02:34
mcrandellothey should have version numbers that match the kernels you have listed in grub02:35
Admiral_Chicagois anything muted?02:35
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Admiral_Chicagoit would not be green at the bottom if it is02:35
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epimethAdmiral_Chicago: nope02:35
chemicalvampi need a good bittorrent client02:35
Admiral_Chicagoprogress bars?02:35
chemicalvamp!torrent>chemicalvamp02:35
Admiral_Chicagoso stuff is filled up02:35
epimethall green except for MM things... Mic Caller I and Off-hook02:35
nosrednaekimchemicalvamp: azeureus?02:35
nosrednaekimktorrent?02:36
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Admiral_Chicagohit 9 on the keypad, that'll give you something02:36
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nosrednaekimepimeth- what is the chipset? is it one of those HD audio things?02:36
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epimethI'm not sure about the chipset... there's something Intel *and* something Realtek02:37
stanleyhey when i open adept it says that the packaging system database is in use by another application, when no other application is using the database02:37
stanleywhat do i do??02:37
Admiral_Chicagoepimeth: lspci | grep realtek will tell you version iirc02:37
Black_Masknews just out! samsung has become the first victim of MS's claim that GNU/Linux infringes on the latter's property!02:37
Admiral_Chicagosudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:37
Admiral_Chicagostanley: ^^02:38
Black_Maskhttp://news.com.com/Microsoft%2C+Samsung+in+patent+swap+deal/2100-1014_3-6177381.html?tag=nefd.top02:38
chemicalvampstanley reboot02:38
epimeth!pastebin>epimeth02:38
stanleyi did reboot02:38
chemicalvampstanley or kill the process thas using it02:38
stanleyand that still doesn't work02:38
Admiral_Chicagostanley: don't reboot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/5032302:38
mcrandelloif I have the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic a dummy package?02:38
Admiral_Chicagogrr02:38
Admiral_Chicagowait02:38
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mcrandello*is that a dummy package?02:38
Admiral_Chicagostanley:02:38
Admiral_Chicagostanley: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:38
Admiral_Chicagotype that in a konsole02:39
Admiral_Chicagofinally02:39
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stanleyok02:39
mcrandelloI have a fglrx.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile but xorg doesn't seem to like it02:39
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/02:40
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epimeththats all of lspci02:40
stanleywhat does that do Admiral_Chicago?02:40
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Admiral_Chicagostanley: clear adept out of lock.02:41
Admiral_Chicagobrb phon02:41
stanleyohh ok thanx02:41
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epimethnot to insult you guys by leaving in the middle of getting help, but I'll brb....02:41
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mcrandelloalternately are there any guides out there on forcing my wifi off the same interrupt as my video card and usb and modem02:43
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mcrandellofor some reason I can't make wifi work with the open source radeon drivers02:44
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chemicalvampmcrandello lemme guess your on feisty?02:45
nosrednaeki1what does wifi have to do with radeon?02:45
mcrandellochemicalvamp, yeah, it was pretty much the same story since dapper tho02:45
chemicalvampfeistys wireless support needs work02:46
mcrandellonosrednaeki1 I'm no system engineer but trust me the only way to get reliable (or any) wifi is to have the fglrx installed and working02:46
chemicalvampive seen dozens of people trying to get help on there wireless cards on feisty.. including myself02:46
mcrandelloit's sharing an irq with the vidcard and about 5 other devices02:46
nosrednaeki1huh?02:47
Toydhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNXTPGohuU&mode=related&search=02:47
nosrednaeki1mcrandello: thats interesting...02:47
chemicalvampsome people get lucky, and they never have a problem and others fix it by buying a longer wire02:48
Admiral_ChicagoToyd: please stay on topic02:48
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: I'm back... did you see the pastebin?02:48
Admiral_Chicagoyes i did02:49
Toydlol02:49
epimethAdmiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/ - thats my entire lspci02:49
nosrednaeki1no...something happened to my network02:49
DragnslcrI like my solution to wireless problems02:49
nosrednaeki1wires?02:49
DragnslcrYep02:49
epimethDragnslcr: I was using that solution for a while... but then I realized that it defeats the purpose :-p02:50
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nosrednaeki1epimeth: you don't have a realtek sound chip02:50
nosrednaeki1thats an ethernet contoller02:50
epimethnosrednaeki: I noticed :-)  but I promise, I do!  at least thats what lenovo and windows xp claims02:51
nosrednaeki1hmm...02:51
nosrednaeki1they use the same driver anyway...so it shouldn't matter... OTOH, it may not even be detecting it..02:52
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Kubuntu_noobanyone know of an isa-pnp module that will work with kubuntu?02:53
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epimethnosrednaeki1: so what do I do?02:54
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nosrednaeki1epimeth: I have absolutely no idea... check what type of realtek chip you have in windows?02:54
red22anyone else here install kubuntu and then ubuntu-desktop?02:55
nosrednaeki1red22, I did it the other way around02:55
nosrednaeki1I like alot of the ubuntu programs, specially synaptic, so I just loaded it first02:56
nosrednaeki1firefox, gaim also02:56
red22nosrednaeki1, do you have any problems when you log out?02:56
nosrednaeki1yeah!02:56
nosrednaeki1why do you ask?02:56
red22lol02:56
mcrandellosorry for dissapearing, the cleaning lady made me move so she could mop02:56
nosrednaeki1lol02:56
nosrednaeki1do you have an ATI card?02:57
red22what happens when you log out? you get booted to non-graphical?02:57
red22yeah have ati too02:57
nosrednaeki1did you install the proprietary driver?02:57
mcrandelloanyway the funny part is it was working with feisty (upgraded) until I tried out beryl02:57
mcrandelloand had to reinstall02:57
red22well that's the only driver that works for my card i think02:57
mcrandello yeah the proprietary driver02:57
nosrednaeki1I get booted to a blank screen.. totally blank... no ctrl alt bkspce or nothing02:58
nosrednaeki1keyboard seems locked,,02:58
mcrandellowith the radeon, no wifi. The fglrx improperly installed I have to keep moving the mouse to keep a connection.02:58
nosrednaeki1red22: whats your chipset?02:58
red22mcrandello: you talking about the same stuff we are or you on something else?02:58
mcrandelloonly with fglrx and dri does wifi work properly02:58
nosrednaeki1he's talking about something else02:58
red22ah ok nm mcran02:58
mcrandelloalthough now that you mention it I had a bunch of problems with logging out with the ATI as well02:59
nosrednaeki1mcrandello: do tell...02:59
red22nosrednaeki1: mobo? 96502:59
mcrandelloor shutting down or ctrl-alt-bkspc after logging in02:59
nosrednaeki1red22: no I mean the graphics card..02:59
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nosrednaeki1mcrandello: what happens?02:59
red22x1950pro02:59
mcrandellothey went away for the most part after the 8.32.whatever drivers02:59
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nosrednaeki1ok.. Xpress 1100 here03:00
mcrandellousually the system would hard lock. I'm assuming it was part of the irq conflict03:00
nosrednaeki1mcrandello: same problem here!03:00
epimethnosrednaeki1: I think I know why my audio isn't working...03:00
nosrednaeki1worked fine in edgy with the 8.28's03:00
nosrednaeki1why?03:00
mcrandelloalso the screen would just randomly freeze due to the usb being on the same irq as the vid and wifi03:00
mcrandellothe mouse would bring it down03:00
red22nosrednaeki1: have you been able to fix it though? you using proprietary drivers too? what card?03:00
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nosrednaeki1no.. its still not fixed... I have an Xpress1100 (integreated graphics)03:01
nosrednaeki1and yeah.. prprietary drivers here..03:01
nosrednaeki1OS drivers work fine03:01
mcrandellothe solution for the freezes was to put "noapic" and "pollirq" into the boot options in the menu.lst file03:01
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nosrednaeki1AH!03:01
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epimethnosrednaeki1: audio driver for xp's readme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17714/03:02
nosrednaeki1I'll try the noapic... was having problems with that before03:02
red22nosrednaeki1: so when you need to shutdown, you have to type the command in at console?03:02
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mcrandellohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/4127203:02
mcrandellois the bug report03:02
nosrednaeki1no I can shut down fine...03:02
nosrednaeki1just no logging out and then back in03:02
nosrednaeki1epimeth: interesting.. seems to be made JUST for lenovo..03:03
mcrandelloin particular it seems to affect cheap laptops with the ATIIXP chipset03:03
chemicalvampwhere do i change power managment setings? my comp crases when it goes to sleep03:03
red22nosrednaeki1: ah yeah that's what i meant. the shutting down problem is due to beryl... i have no shutdown option at all now... only a single "log out" button on my shutdown screen..03:03
epimethnosrednaeki1: I doubt it... they just seem to playing it off that way03:04
nosrednaeki1red22: ahh yeah... that03:04
chemicalvampred22 ive had the sngle log out button before, i logged out and loged in again and it was gone03:04
mcrandelloI have some opinions on beryl and system stability but this is a family channel03:04
red22nosrednaeki1: have you tried "startx" when you're at console? what comes up.. kde or gnome?03:04
epimethnosrednaeki1: I think my problem is that I need some sort of a UAA High Definition Audio driver first03:04
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nosrednaeki1I don't think so... is this a VERY new laptop?03:05
red22chemicalvamp: when i hit log out, i'm thrown out to console and there is no more logging in until i restart :(03:05
epimethnosrednaeki1: if by VERY you mean "built, like, yesterday" then yes, I think so :-)03:05
chemicalvampin command prompt do startkde and or startx03:05
nosrednaeki1no I mean.. the model03:06
red22chemicalvamp: but that is apparently bc i installed kubuntu and then ubuntu-dekstop since nosrednaeki1 has similar issues.03:06
nosrednaeki1red22: it depends...03:06
chemicalvampthen use sudo apt-get to fix it?03:06
epimethnosrednaeki1: thats what I meant03:06
mcrandellowhat other xorg drivers could I try other than ati, radeon or fglrx?03:06
epimethnosrednaeki1: "conceived, like, yesterday"03:06
mcrandellomaybe with only the 2d happening I can get wireless03:06
nosrednaeki1I have to go.... think i'll start a thread on ubuntu-forums03:07
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nosrednaeki1mcrandello: vesa03:07
epimethnosrednaeki1: point me to it?03:07
newGuywhere is the repository listing file located?03:07
nosrednaeki1can't.. its not started and I have to go..03:07
red22chemicalvamp: when i'm out in console after logout startkde doesn't start kde and startx brings up gnome.03:07
epimethnewGuy: /etc/apt/sourced.list03:07
mcrandellonosrednaeki1, thx03:07
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newGuyThanks03:07
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epimethnewGuy: /etc/apt/sources.list03:07
mcrandelloI think you can edit it in synaptic or adept_manager as well03:08
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soulriderhi03:08
red22chemicalvamp: what should i apt-get to fix this?03:08
newGuyAlso how do I tell it to refresh the file list?03:09
soulriderim using the live CD, one of my drives has a swap partition and im tyring to format it, but ti sais its mounted03:09
soulrideris there any way to unmount it ?03:09
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soulriderfound it :) nmv03:10
soulridervm*03:10
WillLuongosoulride umount03:10
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soulriderWillLuongo:  you cant do that because its swap03:11
soulrideryou gotta do 'swapoff'03:11
WillLuongosoulrider: Ok03:11
WillLuongo:D03:11
soulrideroh fork, i gotta reboot again!03:11
soulriderwth is wrong with qtparted!03:11
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soulriderhey, the maximum number of aprtitions is 4 right?03:12
soulrideror can you have 4 + an extended one ?03:12
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mcrandellothe ati_agp and agpgart modules go to the oss drivers, correct?03:15
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epimethsoulrider: 3 + extended03:16
epimethsoulrider: 4 is the max amount of partitions03:16
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soulrideroh crap03:16
soulrideri need to make an extended one then and move my home partition03:16
soulrideri can screw things up =/03:17
chemicalvampive got a whole bunch of games installed with no shortcuts in the K!menu03:17
soulrideroh ym chemicalvamp03:17
soulriderlike what ?03:17
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chemicalvampvegastrike03:17
chemicalvampdozen more03:17
soulrideris vegastrike good ?03:17
chemicalvampits 3d03:17
mcrandellokappfinder03:17
mcrandellomay work03:17
soulriderbut is it good? :P03:17
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chemicalvampi dont know yet, havent played it03:18
chemicalvamplooks good03:18
mcrandellowheee vesa driver doesn't make wifi blow up03:18
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soulriderguys, what distro can i use on a PC i think its a 550 mhz athlon ?03:20
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soulridernot sure aobut the RAM03:20
soulrider8 gig HD03:20
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Admiral_Chicagosoulrider: DSL03:21
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mcrandellosoulrider, I'd try some livecd distros to see what chugs first03:21
soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: i was thinking of DSL too03:21
soulriderthe problem is that it doesnt ahve a network card03:21
chemicalvampkappfinder found 18 programs, none tat i was looking for03:21
soulriderinstalling software is what concerns me03:22
soulriderit doesnt even have USB ports03:22
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soulridergod, windows 98 hard drives are so messy!03:22
vbgunzsoulrider: you might have to install whatever linux you try in text mode if you have one unless maybe you have a boat load of ram to try a live cd03:22
soulridervbgunz: no problem, i installed Arch on my computer03:23
soulriderbesides, i can just read the wiki on my PC :P03:23
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vbgunzdamn, I have gvim and I cannot uninstall it :(03:23
soulriderwhy not ?03:24
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soulrideroh damn, im looking at a windows 98 directory, everything sucks so much03:24
soulriderthe desktop backgrounds are shockingly nasty03:24
vbgunzit doesn't want to uninstall... earlier dpkg -S gvim said it was a virtual package, now it lists some files, I cannot apt-get remove it or anything else... I don't remember ever uninstalling... I hate little things like this :(03:24
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bluekitsuneHello03:25
soulriderthey tried to hide a couple of BMPs as .sys files, but KDE shows the thumbnail and everything :P03:25
soulriderhi bluekitsune03:25
nosrednaekimepimeth: red22: still here?03:25
vbgunzWindows 98 is awesome next to Vista. not sure exactly and doubt it but that is the overwhelming concensus out there :P03:25
epimethnosrednaekim: yup... methinks I have a solution.... gimme a few mins03:25
bluekitsuneThis might be a dumb question but i need to set up my vide card drivers and openGL03:26
bluekitsunevideo*03:26
nosrednaekimbluekitsune: not a dumb q at all..03:26
nosrednaekimfist of all, what kind of ideo card do you have?03:26
nosrednaekim*video03:26
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bluekitsunenivida03:26
vbgunz!nvidia03:26
nosrednaekimbluekitsune: so are you using Ubuntu fiesty?03:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:26
bluekitsunebenn there03:27
bluekitsunebeen*03:27
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vbgunznosrednaekim: looking for the ! ;)03:27
soulridervbgunz: if win 98 could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P03:27
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nosrednaekimnope.... its the #1 key..lol03:27
bluekitsuneUm im useing Kubuntu that why that doesnt help XD03:27
vbgunzsoulrider: if win Vista could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P03:27
soulriderlol03:28
danishok none of the applications i donwload are playing the wmv03:28
soulridernah, its blows!03:28
epimethsoulrider: no... its kernel would still suck03:28
soulriderit*03:28
bluekitsuneI have Vista on this same PC03:28
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DragnslcrIs there a way to get a game pad to simulate keyboard input? Playing Supertux with the keyboard is killing my wrist03:28
nosrednaekimbluekitsune: what version of kubuntu?03:28
bluekitsune6.1003:28
soulriderbluekitsune:  i tried it some time ago and i thought it sucked03:28
danishand when i tried to get the gstream there are tons of them how do i know which one to downlaod03:28
soulriderthe voice recognition thing was a friggin joke!03:28
bluekitsuneI know!03:28
jlillyhey all. any thought on what I might do to fix the error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:28
bluekitsunedont even work XD03:28
nosrednaekimbluekitsune: it'd be whole lot easier if you just did fiest03:28
bluekitsuneYa i know03:28
vbgunzI haven't tried it to be honest, not a bit excited about it03:29
bluekitsuneVista is still downloading it03:29
soulriderbluekitsune: i know widows extreme fanboys that are not convinced about vista03:29
soulriderand thats bad!03:29
bluekitsuneVista not as good as they all think03:29
nosrednaekimjlilly: you trying to do a open GL app?03:29
soulrideri musta dmit i like some of the graphics03:29
jlillynosred: yes. beryl, but I have to get glx working first.03:29
bluekitsuneI like that arro part of it03:29
bluekitsunebut it just eats RAM03:29
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nosrednaekimbluekitsune: you can still use the above tutorial, even if you are using kubuntu03:30
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jlillybluekit: yea, aero is nice. I really like the search option w/ the start menu03:30
nosrednaekimjlilly: what's your graphics card?03:30
bluekitsuneThats good to03:30
vbgunzsoulrider: get a screenshot of Vista, those graphics will hold you down for about a day or two ;)03:30
jlillywindows key + type the first 4-5 letters of the thing you want and hit enter.03:30
jlillynosred: nvidia 7600gs PCI-E03:30
soulriderjlilly: try beagle + kickoff03:30
nosrednaekimare you using fiesty fawn?03:30
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soulrideri ahve that in arch, and its way better than the vista menu03:30
jlillysoulrider: beagle? kickoff? I'm not familiar.03:30
bluekitsuneAnyone here play Secondlife?03:30
jlillynosred: yea. I just upgraded.03:30
danishhow can i play wmv files on kubuntu03:31
soulridervbgunz: the thing i liked was that application switcher that showed all windows like a deck of cards03:31
vbgunzto be honest I don't like the Vista kickoff menu compared to the good ol KDE menu :(03:31
nosrednaekimjlilly: any glx was working b4?03:31
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nosrednaekim*and03:31
soulrider!w32codecs | danish03:31
ubotudanish: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs03:31
jlillynosred: fresh install & upgrade (from 6.10)03:31
soulriderjlilly: kde-apps.org check out kickoff03:31
nosrednaekimxine-extracodecs also works...03:31
jordo23Why did Kubuntu decide to go with Kexi as a database program over OpenOffice's Database......I don't even see it's included with Feisty, right?03:31
Bearcathey folks.  I note that i cannot load the latest hplip drivers and associated packages. The latest i have in kubuntu is 0.9.7-4 where on the site it is 1.7.4. How can i get this in to my system easily?03:31
Bearcatis there a more recent package list?03:31
soulriderbrb03:31
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nosrednaekimjlilly: did OpenGL work back in edgy?03:32
vbgunzdanish: are you onb Feisty?03:32
bluekitsunegrr i need the new one03:32
danishvbgunz yes03:32
nosrednaekimbluekitsune: new what?03:32
bluekitsuneKubuntu03:32
jlillynosred: like I said. fresh install. I basically installed 6.10 without testing. then immediately upgraded. I only had the 6.10 CD and I didn't feel like downlloading another copy.03:32
bluekitsuneand just call me blue its easyer to type lol03:32
vbgunzdanish: look into installing "ubuntu-restricted-extras" that might work03:32
nosrednaekimjlilly: ok gotcha03:32
illriginalHey what's up guys, I have a question, how can I check if someone is pinging me viciously? My modem keeps dropping connection.03:33
nosrednaekimits called "tab"03:33
illriginalI'm on Cable connection by the way.03:33
dsmithpinging viciously? Like DDos?03:33
illriginalyes.03:33
illriginallike attacking my connection basically.03:33
jordo23I find it wierd that Kubuntu Feisty adopted Kexi for database apps, a fork of Koffice, but then installs the rest of the OpenOffice's programs in KOffice's place.......did anyone else notice this?03:33
dsmithi had that happen to me once03:33
illriginalsomeone threatened me with hackin and i think they're just pingin me to death here.03:33
nosrednaekimjlilly: try running the command "sudo restricted-manager"03:34
nosrednaekimillriginal: thats one problem with a static IP{03:34
dsmithdo you have a static IP?03:34
nosrednaekim:-P03:34
illriginalyeah Cable internet03:34
illriginalis static.03:34
jlillynosred: not installed. Should I grab it?03:34
BearcatI'm on Dapper by the way.  It seems that i can only load the hpojs driver as when i try to load the hplip driver it says it does not exist03:34
testRunning kubuntu feisty clickiing a theme in  emeraled theme manager produces no response03:34
illriginalcan't use proxy03:34
bluekitsuneHmm guess no ones play second life03:34
illriginalat least i don't think there's a proxy for linux.. is there?03:34
nosrednaekimjlilly: makes things a heck of a lot easier03:34
dsmithhave you tried calling the cable company?03:34
jlillyk. 2 sec03:34
testChhange mac address will give u new IP ii static03:35
illriginalyeah, they say the IP cannot change03:35
illriginalunless they make the change for whatever reason they may have.03:35
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dsmithtest: could he change is MAC?03:35
dsmithor spoof it03:35
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bluekitsuneI'm gonna get the newest Kubuntu03:35
bluekitsunecya03:35
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testillriginal: I found changing mac address of network card woorks03:35
nosrednaekimtest: you have to restart the window manager wor whatever03:35
jlillynosrednaekim: errored out on run.03:36
nosrednaekim bluekitsuneok03:36
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jlillynosrednaekim: seg fault, core dumped03:36
nosrednaekimwow...03:36
illriginaltest, i dunno how to do that, wouldn't that basically fiddle with my connection?03:36
nosrednaekimhmm..03:36
illriginalpossibility that my network card will stop workin or something?03:36
jlillymaybe b/c I'm running Kubuntu instead of ubuntu? something with the gnome libs or something?03:36
nosrednaekimjlilly: umm... go install the nidia driver03:36
chemicalvamphow do you turn off this dumb hidden icon crp03:36
nosrednaekim!nvidia03:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:36
chemicalvampcrap*03:36
dsmithillriginal: http://www.tech-faq.com/change-mac-address.shtml03:36
nosrednaekimhidden icon?03:36
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nosrednaekimjlilly: ahh... could be03:37
illriginaland these are steps for ubuntu, yes?03:37
nosrednaekimI did ubuntu and then installed kubuntu-desktop03:37
MrWGWI don't suppose any of you know if JFS is a good/bad idea with *ubuntu03:37
jlillynosrednaekim: I have tried installing:  nvidia-glx  and then nvidia-glx-new   neither fix the issue.03:37
jlillybtw: which should I be using?03:37
nosrednaekimjlilly: probably "new:03:37
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MrWGWI saw the option to use it, and I've always really wanted to use it, but I intend to use it on a Mac, and additionally I really want to use KVM03:37
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nosrednaekimdid you edit your xorg?03:37
MrWGWso I'm really curious as to whether or not JFS, given that, is a good or bad idea03:38
chemicalvamphow do i view all folders03:38
jlillynosrednaekim: I don't recall :-/03:38
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illriginalUse this command to change the MAC address?: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`03:38
nosrednaekimjlilly: go look... see if it has "nv" or "nvidia"03:38
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jlillynv03:38
nosrednaekimchange that to nidia..03:38
nosrednaekim*nvidia03:38
jlillythen ctrl+alt+backspace?03:39
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nosrednaekimlog out and then do that...03:39
chemicalvampillriginal google "changing MAC in linux03:39
jlillyk. bbiab03:39
nosrednaekimand if it doesn't work.. change it back03:39
illriginalnice03:39
illriginalyeah it's: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`03:39
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jlillyI got the splash screen.03:40
jlilly:)03:40
nosrednaekimok...cool..03:40
nosrednaekimcheck if you have 3d03:40
nosrednaekim"glxgears"03:40
jlillydirect rendering: Yes03:40
illriginalillriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`03:40
illriginalbash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'03:40
illriginalbash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'03:40
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jlillyyep.03:40
nosrednaekimjlilly: ok.. you have it...cool03:40
jlillytyvm! +1 karma point03:40
nosrednaekimthis isn't /.03:41
illriginalillriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`03:41
illriginalbash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'03:41
illriginalbash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'03:41
nosrednaekim;)03:41
illriginalwas it the ` ?03:41
nosrednaekimnow go follow a tutorial forberyl03:41
morphius_I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:03:42
morphius_ warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected03:42
soulriderdamn, this computer is prehistoric03:42
soulriderit doesnt even have a ps2 port!!03:42
morphius_Internal error: memory corruption detected03:42
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nosrednaekimhave to go all....give epimeth my respects when he gets back03:42
morphius_Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 003:42
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illriginalcan someone help me find out how do see if someone is pinging my connection viciously?03:42
nosrednaekimhey BluesKaj03:42
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morphius_illriginal: try wireshark.03:43
BluesKajhowdy nosrednaekim03:43
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illriginalok that's in the adept?03:43
morphius_probably.03:43
illriginalok03:43
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: did you have an ati card?03:43
BluesKajyes03:43
nosrednaekimare you running fiesty?03:43
BluesKajyes03:43
nosrednaekimwith the proprietary driver?03:43
BluesKajjust reinstalled03:44
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BluesKajyup03:44
nosrednaekimhaving any problems logging out?03:44
lovlossIs there no support whatsoever for Radeon x700 cards in feisty? I tried running envy and i still get my monitor turning itself off when it tries to load the desktop03:44
BluesKajit's the only one to use for dri03:44
testWhen running beryl it does not display the title bar max/min close buttons is this normal ?03:44
illriginalmorphius, where would I find the icon for wireshark, after I download and install?03:44
nosrednaekimtest: no03:44
BluesKajyeah nosrednaekim, X doesn't want to close ...it's an issue we should report03:45
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: definately... even ati user so far has had the same problem03:45
nosrednaekim*every03:45
morphius_Probably under "internet"03:45
nosrednaekimfile a bug report and i'll back it..03:46
mcrandellohrmm the wifi is tied to the mouse movement again03:46
lovlossWhat about this ATI problem: unable to start up even the live cds desktop without the screen turning off? o.o03:46
lovlossat least i hope thats an ati problem03:46
mcrandellothe faster i move the pointr the better the thruput03:46
nosrednaekimlovloss: it probably is...03:46
nosrednaekimmcrandello: WEIRD!03:46
BluesKajyeah, it was pi**ing me off somewhat , that and the loss pf digital out on the ati ixp soundcard, after upgrading from feisty beta03:46
mcrandelloif it's ati ithat's probably the problem :V03:46
illriginalsweet03:46
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lovlossnosrednaekim: is x700 a rare brand? it was the most commonly sold off of tigerdirect03:46
illriginalthanks a lot morphius03:47
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mcrandelloabout to put the mouse on the floor03:47
nosrednaekimlovloss: no its not rare, but ATI support is crappy..03:47
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: doesn't REALLY bother me...03:47
nosrednaekimI just suspend..03:47
nosrednaekimnever have to log out03:47
epimethnosrednaekim: grrr03:47
WillLuongowhat is a terminal command to check disk space?03:47
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lovlossnosrednaekim: The monitor losing signal must be a card issue, wouldnt you say?03:47
epimethnosrednaekim: the solution I found seems geared towards the c20003:47
epimethI have the n10003:47
BluesKajnosrednaekim: there's an new ati proprietary driver issued 3 days ago or so , but I don't think it solves the X shutoff issue03:48
epimeththe guy with the n100 didn't say whether or not it worked for him03:48
nosrednaekimlovloss: drivers probably, can you do a "ctrl+alt+f2"03:48
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nosrednaekimBlues.. I just got this yesterday.,03:48
lovlossnosrednaekim: no, i cant even get in in the first place unless i use recovery mode.03:48
epimethnosrednaekim: what I did find was that the ubuntu wiki claims the feisty install worked out of the box....03:48
vbgunzWillLuongo: df03:48
epimethnosrednaekim: so I emailed the contact person asking for help03:48
nosrednaekimepimeth: yeah.. good idea03:49
lovlossnosrednaekim: And then if i type 'kdm' with it set to "VESA", i lose monitor. if i set to "ATI", it blinks once and then claims kdm is going when its not03:49
mcrandelloctrl alt f7?03:49
vbgunzI have the binary nvidia driver *but* I never reran it when I upgraded to Feisty.. do I need to OR should I reinstall with the new kernel or something?03:49
nosrednaekimlovloss: when it blinks, go  to ctrl+alt f703:49
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BluesKajwell wiki claims are editable to some degree , so they aren't quite right sometimes03:49
mcrandelloof course kdm could be going regardless of display03:49
WillLuongovbgunz: Thanks03:49
lovlossnosrednaekim: What should that do?03:49
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vbgunzWillLuongo: np :)03:50
nosrednaekimsitch to the X terminal03:50
mcrandelloless /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:50
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rustinhello, anybody can help me with audacity?03:50
lovlossWell im already in the x terminal if im running recovery mode03:50
mcrandellof7 = the framebuffer that X lives on03:50
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BluesKajthis small font display bothers..just reset the resolution , so I'll brb03:50
mcrandellooh03:50
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lovlossEven the loading screen makes my monitor go off if i start it the other way03:51
nosrednaekimlovloss: hmm... can you log in from the console when you do normal mode?03:51
nosrednaekimalt-f203:51
lovlossnosrednaekim: No if i try to log in regularily it will attempt the loading screen and the monitor will blink oiut03:52
lovlossnosrednaekim: But i would like to point out. On the live cd, if i press f4 and set a resolution, the loading screen works! Then it blinks out after that03:52
nosrednaekimouch....umm...edit the grub boot line, erase the "splash"and " quite"03:52
nosrednaekimthat'll give you a command prompt03:53
nosrednaekimat least03:53
vbgunzin grep, how do I create a group with an OR pipe? e.g., (^Filesystem|^/) ?03:53
lovlossnosrednaekim: Recovery mode puts you in a command prompt anyway03:53
lovlossnosrednaekim: I can get that far03:53
nosrednaekimlovloss: I thought you just said you were in x?03:53
lovlossnosrednaekim: No, i cant get in x. My monitor blinks out.03:54
nosrednaekimah...03:54
nosrednaekimthats very weird... this isn't a laptop?03:54
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lovlossnosrednaekim: Nope, its a pc03:54
nosrednaekimhmm... does it have an onboard video?03:54
rustinknellotron: yes03:54
lovlossnosrednaekim: i believe it might. would it help to try moving the cable over?03:55
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nosrednaekimwell.. you won't be able to use the ati...03:55
illriginalBogus IP Header? >.>03:55
lovlossnosrednaekim: Yeah, i know... i really would like to be able to03:55
illriginalsomeone sent me bogus IP headers03:55
rustinknellotron: is pvt blocked?03:55
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nosrednaekimlovloss: I don't  have a clue what your problem might be.... hmm... try setting the sync ranges REALLY wide in the xorg...03:56
nosrednaekimit can't hurt anything...03:56
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nosrednaekimas long as its an LCD03:56
lovlossnosrednaekim: LCD? i wish.03:56
nosrednaekimlovloss: its not?03:56
lovlossnosrednaekim: Im behind the times arent i03:57
mcrandellowhats really wierd is if i spin the mouse in a circle i get 40 kBps, figure 8 gets me >10003:57
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lovlossnosrednaekim: its one of those deep ones03:57
nosrednaekimthen check up the manual on it somewhere, find the sync ranges..03:57
nosrednaekimlol03:57
mcrandellomoving the mouse side to side is 7503:57
nosrednaekimcrts are nice..good response times03:57
lovlossnosrednaekim: the manual lol. i wonder how many years its been since i had that thing03:57
nosrednaekimlovloss: the internet..maybe the back of the monitor itself... you need the sync ranges03:58
vbgunzdid knetworkmanager OBSOLETE wireless lan assistant (wlassitant)?03:58
nosrednaekimvbgunz: sorta..03:58
lovlossnosrednaekim: all i know is that i ran edgy eft on a different box on this machine for a long time03:58
mcrandellosince this is the vesa and not the fglrx driver should I file a bug with the kernel? It appears to be the ATIIXP driver03:58
lovlossnosrednaekim: *on this monitor03:58
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rustinknellotron: guess i need register03:58
nosrednaekimlovloss: hmm... interesting..can you get the sync ranges from that machine?03:58
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rr72im back03:59
lovlossnosrednaekim: Unfortunately it was obliterated in the same car wreck that broke my femur.03:59
nosrednaekimlovloss: ouch.03:59
lovlossnosrednaekim: bad week. very bad03:59
rr72im the guy with the wireless card problem who got it to work under xubuntu03:59
nosrednaekim:-P03:59
nosrednaekimrr72: thats always nice03:59
knellotronruskin: what's your question?03:59
mcrandellorr72, you are my hero03:59
Jack32hmm, is there a way to get rid of these dialog boxes that pop down when hovering over, "minimize window" "close window" "expand"03:59
nosrednaekimI know the answer...03:59
nosrednaekim4203:59
lovlossnosrednaekim: So i get back from the hospital and now im stuck on a windoze computer, already getting viruses, already stressing out about some of its limitation, and knowing no way out04:00
nosrednaekimlovloss: hmm..04:00
mcrandelloI'm the guy who has to move his mouse or the wifi blows up04:00
mcrandello;_;04:00
nosrednaekimdo you have and edgy cd?04:00
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mcrandelloit's like a mentally challenged version of that movie speed04:00
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lovlossnosrednaekim: Somewhere. I dont forsee it being different.04:00
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nosrednaekimlovloss: but it might...04:00
chemicalvampmcrandello i was just thinking of that movie04:00
lovlossnosrednaekim: It wouldn work anyway, though. this one is 64 bit architecture, thats new04:00
WillLuongoMy trashcan disappeared. How can I get it back?04:00
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lovlossnosrednaekim: AND its on a SATA04:01
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red22nosrednaekim: i'm here04:01
chemicalvampat least it doesnt have to do 6004:01
nosrednaekim32 works on 64 bit computers04:01
newGuyHey, is there a way to set up windows games (like city of heroes) to work in kubuntu?04:01
vbgunz"mentally challenged version of that movie speed" <- thats hot!04:01
nosrednaekimred22: fix our problem?04:01
nosrednaekimnewGuy: WINE04:01
nosrednaekim!wine04:01
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:01
newGuyI tried to get wine with the package manager it was some04:02
newGuyI tried to get wine with the package manager it was some 'dummy package'04:02
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: so did you file a bug report?04:02
WillLuongo!trash04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
WillLuongo!trashcan04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trashcan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
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lovlosswell cy aguys, im going to go try stuff, likely fail and mope about it... byebye04:02
vbgunzhow stable did WINE get with Steam?04:02
red22nosrednaekim: i've been trying some updates to ubuntu/gnome stuff and i'm gonna restart to see.  if not i'm not sure what else to try other than reinstall xorg or kde..04:02
BluesKajnosrednaekim: not yet , I'm hoping I can figure out what's wrong04:02
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nosrednaekimred22: sorry what was your problem again?04:03
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: could it be DPMS?04:03
newGuyMicrosoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package)04:03
newGuyThis is a dummy package to ease upgrade from users of old libwine-* packages to the newer wine package. It can be safely removed at any time.04:03
newGuyThat is what it says for libwine04:03
rustinknellotron: there's a "register command"?04:03
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BluesKajnosrednaekim:  DPMS?04:04
vbgunzcan WINE work with a dual boot PC, can it use my already existing Windows partition for it's programs?04:04
jason_hi guys sup04:04
knellotronrustin: just ask your question here.04:04
Gabzvbgunz: i'm using crossover office with stream... it works just poor fps in CSS04:04
rustinknellotron: thanks04:05
vbgunzGabz: :O04:05
red22nosrednaekim: i can't log out correctly... just dies to non-graphical/console login.  althought when you restart, the gui login screen starts up fine.04:05
vbgunzGabz: you have the binary driver for your video card?04:05
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GabzGabz: no i'm just using the packaged one04:05
vbgunzGabz: so you not using the binary driver for your card?04:05
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Gabzvbgunz: no packaged and i only have a 1.6 mhz processor04:06
BluesKajred22: ati card I bet :(04:06
vbgunzGabz: 1.6MHz processor? wow, you lucky if you can run a stop watch ;)04:06
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red22blueskaj: you bet.  seems to be cornering the market on kubuntu headaches?04:06
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rustinwell, my mic is ok but i can't record sound... can anybody help me?04:07
vbgunzGabz: you're going to get wack fps without the binary driver if you running Nvidia or ATI, try installing the binary and then tell me what the fps is like (if you can)04:07
BluesKajyup red22. so it seems04:07
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Gabzvbgunz: thanks for the tip i'll try it later...04:07
vbgunzrustin: if you get an answer that works for you, please share it with me if I miss it. I tried this a long time ago and gave up :(04:08
red22blueskaj: it's weird though bc everything else works fine after instaling the prop.drivers.. even the beryl candy without much trouble..04:08
Gabzrustin: which program are you recording in ?04:08
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rustinvbgunz: i'm trying audacity and the kde recorder04:09
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rustinsorry04:09
rustinGabz:04:09
rustin:)04:09
lunar-raven!beryl04:09
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:09
rr72why does my kubuntu desktop cd live crash when i enter in the exact same commands in as when i boot up a xubuntu live desktop cd and that doesnt crash? yes i MD5SUM the kubuntu cd04:09
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Gabzright click on the speaker in the bottom corner click show mixer window and go to the input tab04:10
Gabzmake sure your mic is selected and the volumne is up04:10
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vbgunzGabz: kmix?04:10
Gabzyep kmix04:10
vbgunzok I need a way to test it, what would you suggest?04:11
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Gabzvbgunz: i've only used a mic for skype in linux...04:11
rustinGabz: the mic's green light is on... the red too04:11
vbgunzGabz: yeah, once I tried for that reason too but failed miserably04:11
vbgunzrustin: green is mute04:12
vbgunzrustin: or vice versa, hover over the light04:12
Gabzcheck that you might also have caputure device depending on your sound card04:12
Gabzvbgunz: rustin there has i've also had a problem with kmix not doing it's job right in konsole you can use alsamixer which is worth the go04:14
rustinGabz: i don't have this...04:15
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rustinoh, forget what i saw04:15
vbgunzGabz: I went nuts in alsamixer once, I thought I botched my system sound, later found out it was kleansweep removing dead menu entries that were'nt exact dead :P04:16
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mcrandellointeresting the fglrx driver that came with feisty only works after installing libstdc++.s0.504:16
BluesKajred22, I'm not a real fan of automatic installers like Envy but it helped in dapper ...dunno if it's upgraded to Feisty yet04:17
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: still here?04:18
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nosrednaeki1I fixed it04:18
rustinGabz: i enabled all the controls... same results04:19
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vecinaIts me, lovloss. I got in by switching the graphics driver to fgxlfx or whatever but now im having a new poblem04:19
vecinaWhy isnt my external HD mounting automatically?04:19
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chemicalvamphow do i dissable sleep mode and such..04:20
BluesKajyup nosrednaeki, just installing some apps , so I'm back and forth04:20
Gabzrustin: i don't have a mic attached to this computer and it's been awhile sorry i'm not going to be much more help04:21
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rustinGabz: no problem... thank you very much :)04:22
mcrandelloah success04:22
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nosrednaekimumm...04:23
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nosrednaekimanyone still around?04:23
BluesKajnosrednaekim, how did you fix it ?04:23
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ?04:23
nosrednaekimI have absolutely no idea..04:24
BluesKaj:) !!04:24
nosrednaekimI added the llines from that ubuntu forums page04:24
nosrednaekimto the gdm (but I'm not using GDM!)04:24
vbgunzim telling you setting up a mic in KDE is a pain in the ass, I never got it to work, am failing miserably now... I remember though it was a snap in Ubuntu04:24
BluesKajURL ?04:24
nosrednaekim1 sec04:24
chemicalvamphow do you change power management settings? like turning off monitor when idle, or harddisk?04:24
nosrednaekimhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254167&page=404:25
nosrednaekimnow its working...04:25
nosrednaekimIDK..04:25
nosrednaekimweird04:25
mcrandellosudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source libstdc++5, blow away everything in lib that said fglrx, then run the 8.36.5 installer, go into /lib/modules/fglrx/build-mod and ./make.sh cd .. ./make_install.sh and that did it04:25
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BluesKajthx nosrednaekim04:25
mcrandelloquite the cowboy method04:25
nosrednaekimhope it works...i'm going to try loggin out again to be sure... cross your finders..04:25
mcrandellonot to see if the irq conflicts are gone04:26
mcrandello*now04:26
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vecinahow do you mount devices its not automatically recognizing04:27
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chemicalvampvecina what device04:28
vecinachemicalvamp: in this case, i just plugged in a jumpdrive. no response04:28
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nosrednaekimok..on  second try...nothing... very weird04:30
nosrednaekimWIAT!04:30
nosrednaekimtry a Ctrl+alt+backspace right from KDE...04:30
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nosrednaekimit'll give you a kdm screen i'll bet!04:31
rr72lol it would be funny if half the room quit04:31
jordo23Anyone here setup Wordpress in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?04:31
nosrednaekimthats the one thing I did different the other rime04:31
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nosrednaekimso we need KDM to automatically restart X or something...04:31
nosrednaekim:-D04:32
nosrednaekimlike that GDM fix04:32
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: did you hear all that?04:32
BluesKajno such file in my setup as the URL04:32
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: say again?04:32
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: that was a tutorial for if you were using GDM04:33
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nosrednaekimanyway...I have to go.... we'll figure it out later..04:33
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nosrednaekim:-D04:33
BluesKajok cya04:33
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mcrandellowhee blazing fast wifi and accellerated X04:34
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rr72whys is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?04:35
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vbgunzGabz: i partially got the mic successful... i can hear myselk through my speakers with krec *but* i never managed to record sound :(04:35
vecinaoops04:35
vecinasorry guys i miffed my connection... anyone know why i cant seem to get anything to mount?04:36
wolferinewhats an app to test writes to a hd?04:36
Gabzvbgunz: that's more your recording program doesn't see the mic as the recording source04:36
vbgunzwolferine: maybe hdparm04:36
rr72why is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?04:36
wolferineright04:36
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wolferinethats it04:36
rr72!kernel04:36
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:36
vbgunzGabz: only through the program I heard my voice in my speakers but krec never really recorded it... maybe I need another recorder :P04:37
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: OK! when you hard exit KDE with ctrl+altbkspce, log back in, and then log off normally it doesn';t freeze04:37
jordo23I am trying to install Wordpress for Ubuntu, and have installed the package. Does anyone know of a link or site of what to do next to link it to my LAMP components?04:37
nosrednaekimsorry had come back when I discovered that04:37
vecina:,(04:37
BluesKajnosrednaekim: weird :)04:38
nosrednaekimyep... at least we can log out... somehow..04:39
nosrednaekim:-D04:39
vecinaso... how do you make ubuntu mount something you plug in, say, a jump drive...?04:39
BluesKajsounds like there are 2 X's running04:39
nosrednaekimyeah.....04:40
nosrednaekimyou're right..04:40
nosrednaekimi'm showing one now...but I killed that other one..04:40
nosrednaekim(if there was another one)04:40
BluesKaj:)04:40
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nosrednaekimwhats your list of running programs say?04:41
BluesKajwhat sound card do you have , nosrednaekim04:41
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nosrednaekimrealtek 88304:41
nosrednaekimHD audio04:41
nosrednaekimwhy?04:41
BluesKajdoes your digital out work. ?04:42
nosrednaekimspidf? I don't know..04:42
nosrednaekimhow can I check?04:42
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: why, do you have the same chipset?04:43
BluesKajI'm running a coax to my tv room audio system that accepts pcm signals04:43
rr72ugh ugh yuk yum04:43
nosrednaekimreall can't help with that... and I REALLY have to run now..04:43
BluesKajthe sound is DAC'd on windows but not on Feisty04:43
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nosrednaekimgood luck with the fglrx-Xorg-problem04:43
vbgunzGabz: wow, if not for rustin I would not have tried setting up my mic again! I got it to work, I used "krecord" instead of "krec"... my mic does work on Kubuntu :)04:44
vbgunzGabz: thanks!04:44
BluesKajwell, i just want DRI for google earth and that's fine for me...the beryl eye candy is just window dressing04:44
nosrednaekimCtrl+alt +bkspce s your friend lol..04:45
nosrednaekimtry it,,04:45
vecinaWhen i stick a USB stick in, it should read it and something should pop up, right? Because im trying it... nothing04:45
nosrednaekimvecina: try another usb port04:45
vecinanosrednaekim: Tried :/04:46
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madmikewow i relllly hope all this werid stuff thats been goin on to my box here was just my hard drive dieing04:47
vbgunzit's not always good to "just" hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... I learned a few days ago by someone in here, it is always best to logout first, then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace04:49
red22blueskaj, what problem logging out do you have again?04:49
mcrandellopersonally I hold down the power button until I hear a "clunk" but that comes from previous ati driver problems04:50
BluesKajX keeps trying reload , then it just stalls at a black screen04:50
red22blueskaj: that happens when you log out from your session? the first login after a restart works fine?04:51
BluesKajyes04:51
BluesKajred22 it clicks off and on about 3 times then just stalls04:51
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red22blueskaj: what you running? window manager and distro version... i have feisty and kde with gnome also installed.04:53
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BluesKajno gnome04:54
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BluesKajjust kde04:54
chipbuddyhey, are there any programmers here?04:54
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BluesKajBBL04:54
Gabz!printing04:54
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:54
red22blueskaj: hm i thought maybe it was the combination that had screwed it up...04:54
BluesKajok ,brb04:55
red22ok c ya later04:55
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jlillymy sound isn't working. its onboard sound for an ASUS M2N-MX mobo. How do I check if drivers are loaded for it?04:56
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hawk__hello everyone i need to know what to do about the dvds not playing04:58
martallihawk__, Did you install the libdvdcss?04:59
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hawk__thanx man that is what it was05:00
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martallinp05:00
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martallijlilly, Sometimes the volume just isn;'t turned up in the mixer05:01
hawk__apt dos not show anything under that name05:02
martallihawk__, Did you enable all the repositories?05:02
hawk__7.0 how do you do that05:02
FenrisUyhi, first linux install ever, anyone knows how to set the display to show 1440x900 in hp pavillion dv9000 laptop with nvidia 7600 go?05:02
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FenrisUylinux instal is kubuntu 7.0405:03
martallihawk__, Open adept, click onthe  "Adept" menu (first ont he left) and then click manage repositories05:03
hawk__ok did that and it says that we have all the reps don05:03
TheDebuggerAnyway... libdvdcss2 is NOT in default repos05:04
TheDebuggerlibdvdread does contain a script to install it though05:04
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martalliI installed mine with the medibuntu repo, but I don't thin that is really recommended05:05
TheDebuggersame05:05
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martalliTheDebugger, How do you start the scriupt from the libdvdread package?05:06
martalliU guess we should keep our odvice ont he kubutnu channel as close to vanilla as possible05:06
hawk__but it was before in 6.1005:06
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jlillymartalli: it was in this case, but I have to head home now. I'll probably ask about it later.05:06
martallijlilly, OK.  Someone here will probably try to help05:07
martallijlilly, g'night05:07
TheDebugger/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh05:07
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martallinice trick - thanks for the advice05:09
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hawk__!dvd05:09
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:09
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martallihawk__, If you run that, you will need to run it as a root user ("sudo..."05:09
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wersdaluvcan someone help me with raki? I'm sorry if this is off topic. it's my first time here05:10
martalliwhat's raki?05:10
Bearcathey folks. I'm having trouble getting kooka to recognise my scanner (an HP C3180). Is there an alternate way of setting it up?  I have the hplip driver loaded for what that's worth05:10
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wersdaluvraki is an active sync substitute05:11
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vecinaWhy do i have to put in the feisty cd to apitiude install stuff ? i didnt have to do that with edgy05:11
martalliBearcat, I think you have to run a specific setup program... try "hp-setup": or "sudo hp-setup" fromt he CLI05:12
martallivecina, Just disable the CD repo in adept05:12
Bearcatmartalli: thanks. I'll try that.05:12
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Tony_anyone here have 1680x1050 res working and care to share their xorg.conf?05:13
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martallivecina, Hmm - I didn't see the cd in adept05:14
wersdaluvdoes anyone here know how to  configure Raki.. I tried to start dccm but...05:14
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vecinai cant even get into adept05:14
wersdaluv"could not start dccm or dccm has exited"05:14
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Bearcatmartalli: there doesn't seem to be such a command (unless i am missing a package).05:15
vecinaoh im installing05:15
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martalliBearcat, I seem to have it...hmm05:15
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vecinaMy nedxt problem is that im in recovery mode because i have to configure xserver to the fglrx driver. I want it to stay that way whejn i run it normally, but it switches to VESA and crashes05:16
vecinaunder VESA my monitor loses connection05:16
Bearcatmartalli: (i'm a sourcemage user working on someone eles pc so i dont' know debian that well). What package is it from?05:16
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martalliBearcat, I think hplip, which is installed by default, I thought05:17
Bearcatmartalli: yeah, i have that installed05:17
martalliTriid typing "sudo hp-setup" fromt he command line?05:17
martalliAlternatively, try "sudo apt-get install hp-setup"05:17
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Bearcatmartalli: thanks. I'll try that as soon as adept finishes. Are the repositores extra slow tonight or is it just me?05:18
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martalliBearcat, I think that the repos have been running slower since the release last week.  Usually my speeds from the repo are 3-4 times faster05:19
alex_hey - when i'm putting a USB thumdrive into my laptop kubuntu isn't automatically recognizing it and putting it in the Removable media folder.  Could someone give me a hand on how I can make it work?05:20
alex_:)05:20
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vecina*points to alex* In answering him I , too , shall be answered *ignignok voice*05:20
stanleyis anyone using kubuntu 7.04?05:20
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wersdaluvis the thumbdrive the only usb device with the problem?05:21
alex_stanley: probably most ppl05:21
vecinaWe await your response, earthlings. >.>05:21
alex_wersdaluv: i have not used any other USB device.  :/05:21
alex_nothing else to test it with..05:21
martalliNot much reason to use edgy anymore and dapper is very long in the tooth (maybe nice for servers)05:21
Bearcatmartalli: there is no hp-setup program that i can find..hmm.. Is there a way to search the package directory to get a listing of what package a file comes from?05:21
alex_It may be formatted FAT32.  I'm pretty sure, actually..05:21
stanleyok05:21
stanleyhas anyone installed kdm?05:21
martalliBearcat, I have been looking around and cannot find another package name for it05:22
wersdaluvoh... try another usb device first.. as for my case, before, all my usb devices did not work05:22
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stanleyon kubuntu 7.04?05:22
alex_i don't have a USB device to try with05:22
alex_:(05:22
alex_(besides the flash drive i'm trying to make work)05:22
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martalliBearcat, Did you just do a full update?05:23
martalliDo you get very many packages?  I wonder if it came as an update...05:23
Bearcatmartalli: nope. And apparently it does come with the hplip program but i dont' seem to have it.05:23
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stanleyalex have u installed kdm on 7.04??05:25
alex_kdm..  hmm.05:25
martalliBearcat, Hmm.  I wonder if "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-meta" might work (http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/04/hplip-in-feisty.html)05:26
alex_it's showing that it's installed in Adept.05:26
alex_yep!05:26
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martallibearcat.  Another alternative might be: sudo apt-get hpijs-ppds05:26
alex_it's an imation USB 2.0 2 GB flash drive05:27
wersdaluvalex, are you using a laptop?05:27
alex_no idea why it wouldn't be recognized..05:27
alex_yes, i am!  :)  It's an acer.05:27
alex_(wonderful, i know)05:27
Bearcatmartalli: well, since i'm trying to get the scanner working i think installing hipjs would be a step backward, don't you?05:27
morphius_I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:05:27
morphius_warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected05:27
morphius_Internal error: memory corruption detected05:27
morphius_Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 005:27
morphius_When I connect, I can enter my pwd and then it does not log me in.05:27
alex_Kubuntu as actually been pretty friendly with it.  :)05:27
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stanleyso alex have u changed ur login theme??05:27
wersdaluvtype dmesg in the terminal05:27
stanleyare u able to??05:27
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martalliBearcat, maybe so...05:27
alex_stanley - no, i haven't.  I could try if you wish.  My problem is a USB 2.0 drive problem though..  unless there's another alex with an issue that i'm not seeing..05:28
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vecina How come when i reload the computer it automatically sets my xserver back to VESA? i have to go to recoverty mode and change it to fglrx each time or the monitor will cut signal!05:28
wersdaluvstanley, you can change your login screen in kcontrolcenter05:28
alex_i'm using beryl (emerald) for my theme..05:28
Bearcatmartalli: i'm kinda assuming that the scanner functionality will only work with the true hplip driver.05:28
martalliIm just trying to find the package that has hp-setup...honestly, I don't think I did anything special.  However, I started with feisty onthe beta...I don't think that would make a difference05:28
wersdaluvalex, type dmesg in the terminal05:28
alex_dmesg05:28
alex_er05:28
alex_(heh)05:28
wersdaluvyes05:28
wersdaluvdamn05:29
Admiral_Chicagois there any way to undo a rm command05:29
wersdaluvin konsole05:29
martalliBearcat, Another solution would be to try reinstalling hplip (sudo aptitude reinstall hplip)05:29
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martalliBearcat, sudo aptitude reinstall hplip hplip-data05:30
stanleyyea but when i use kcontrolcentre wersdaluv there is no administrator mode buttin05:30
Bearcatmartalli: will that force a redownload of the file?05:30
martalliI believe so05:30
stanleyso i am not able to change my theme05:30
alex_i'm trying to paste this crazy message from the dmesg05:30
martalliHowever, I can't see why a frsh install would have that broken...It's just a though, those are the only hplip packages I have installed05:31
wersdaluvalex, dont you have any other usb device like a usb mouse or something?05:31
Bearcatmartalli: and furthermore 0.9.7 is really old!05:31
alex_wers..  hmm. YEs!  I think i have a mouse.  brb05:31
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martalliBearcat, Current version in feisty is 1.7.305:32
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Bearcatmartalli: how do i get that?05:32
Bearcatis "feisty" stable?05:32
alex_okay05:32
alex_optical mouse is installed05:32
alex_and working05:32
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martalliBearcat:  What is the output of: lsb_release -d05:33
alex_it started working immediately05:33
don_!beryl05:33
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:33
wersdaluvyou mean the mouse is working properly?05:33
wersdaluvmouse pointer is not slow or something05:33
wersdaluv?05:33
alex_nope05:33
alex_working fine :)05:33
Bearcatmartalli: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS05:33
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wersdaluvso the problem is with the thumbdrive05:33
martalliBearcat, You're using Dapper - I am on feisty05:33
don_what is the best guide beryl05:33
alex_http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=7743705:34
wersdaluvalex, are you using feisty?05:34
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alex_Yes I am wersdaluv05:34
Bearcatmartalli: how do i switch up? Download a Cd and reinstall?05:34
martalliYou can simply apt-get your way up05:34
se7enwhere could i find (log) more infos if a program crashes all the time05:34
martalliHmmm.05:34
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alex_that nomorepasting.com link is my dmesg by the way05:34
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wersdaluvhave you tried the thumbdrive with another computer?05:34
alex_yeah, it works05:35
alex_even in my dvd player w/ USB port it works05:35
martalliBearcat, I don't know if you can directly upgrade from dapper to feisty.  Instead - upgrade from dapper-> edgy -> feisty05:35
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alex_when i plug it in, i see a little light on the drive light up too05:35
Bearcatmartalli: what is the most efficient way of doing that?05:35
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wersdaluvno pop-up when you plug the thumbdrive?05:35
alex_nope :/05:35
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wersdaluvdoes a usb icon appear on the desktop?05:36
wersdaluvit's supposed to appear there05:36
alex_no, no USB icon.  nothing in /media05:36
wersdaluvthat's really strange... what's the brand of the thumbdrive?05:37
alex_imation05:37
wersdaluvi got my kingston working out of the box...05:37
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wersdaluvi dont know about that05:37
alex_yeah05:37
alex_thanks for your help by the way - very nice of you05:37
martalliBearcat, Here is the standard way to upgrade versions from dapper: gksu update-manager -c 05:37
wersdaluvtry searching the forums with the right keywords05:38
alex_i'll make sure to help someone else in the same fashion05:38
alex_okay05:38
alex_:D05:38
martalliBearcat, wait a sec on that05:38
wersdaluvhaha.. that's nice alex.. someone else helped me this way too.. even better.. haha05:38
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tonyyarusso!upgrade | Bearcat05:39
ubotuBearcat: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:39
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alex_hey Bearcat - use Adept05:40
alex_under System05:40
alex_:)05:40
martalliBearcat, First you will need to upgrade to edgy05:40
Bearcatalex_: i'm there05:40
alex_just launch it - it should give you a message saying there's an upgrade available05:40
martallihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41764405:40
alex_okay - have you updated it?05:40
epimethmight as well try again.... long story short: brand new lenovo laptop, sound not working... aparently a known problem: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=272505:40
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jodasHey does anyone know how to use AC3d?05:41
jodasOr Povray?05:41
epimethhowever, the person who has what might be my laptop (doesnt specify model, only make) does not post if it solved his problem05:41
Bearcatalex_: yup05:41
Bearcatthere is no gksu command05:41
Bearcat...wierd05:41
tonyyarussoBearcat: kdesu, I think05:42
jodasDoes anyone know how to use Povray?05:42
martalliBearcat, Try just sudoupdate-manager -c 05:42
jodasWhich channel should I go to for this?05:42
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martalliwoops: sudo update-manager -c 05:42
epimethalso, no explanation of how to install the patch...05:43
Bearcatmartalli: "update-manager" is not on my system05:43
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Bearcatok, update-manager wants a bunch of gnome stuff05:46
Bearcat*sigh*05:46
martalliNot ideal05:46
Bearcatok, i'm doing it anway :)05:47
Doctor_Nickis there anyway of backing up your settings if you want to flatten and reinstall05:47
martalliBearcat - That will probably be fine05:47
martalliIs this kubuntu dapper?05:47
Bearcatyup05:48
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Bearcatand i watch the downloads error out as they have been all night, as i try them again and again. It takes about 5 times05:48
martalliBearcat, I am surprised that the dapper repos are that busy05:49
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martalliJust how much custom stuff does your friend have?05:50
epimethwhat version of KDE is included in feisty?  also, how would I check it myself?05:51
Bearcatmartalli: almost nothing05:51
martalliMaybe it would work better just to download a new install disk a start over...that's what's necessary for most other distros, and with the busy distros you will apparently be waiting a long time.  otoh, I head that there wre 6000 ubuntu cd seeders tha day after the distro came out05:51
martalliYou might have the desktop install cd downloaded in 2-3 hours if you have a fast connection05:52
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Kaeporacan kubuntu support my ATI mobility radeon x1400 card???05:53
mark__yes05:53
mark__it can05:53
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Bearcatmartalli: they have dial-up :(05:54
Kaeporamark__: how?05:54
Kaeporai can't getr past a 1024x768 res :(05:54
Bearcatmartalli: so if i just download a CD i can upgrade this easily by that method.05:54
mark__you'd have to install an xorg driver and properly configure your xorg.conf to use that driver05:54
martalliBearcat, That might be part of the problem withthe repos, too05:54
mark__is pretty much the jist of it05:54
martalliBearcat, I would just reinstall of the cd05:54
Bearcatmartalli: won't that distroy the current installed package informatoin etc?05:55
martalliBearcat, There are sveeral options - you would upgrade off the dvd or "alternative" install disk (I  don't think the desktop install can do that)05:55
martalliLike most distro - their info will be safe to reinstall if they have kept a separate /home partition.  If you want to upgrade, get both the install disks for edgy and feisty05:56
martalliFirst upgrade to edgy, then to feisty05:56
martalliDo they have a dvd drive?  You would be better off getting the dvd install disks05:57
Bearcatyup, they do05:57
martalliWith the computer on, you just plop in the disk and the computer will say something like "A new distribution volume is available, would you like to upgrade"05:57
martalliThe dvd install disks will have everything you need:  Check out torrent.ubuntu.com05:58
Bearcati was tempted to just install sourcemage for them, but it's not user friendly. All set up is manual and they are very much newbies05:58
martalli Bearcat *buntu is very user friendly05:58
martalliWay past my initial introduction to mandrake05:59
Bearcatright, that's why i picked it for them05:59
Bearcati was damned if i was gonna let them buy Vista!05:59
Doctor_Nickdoes anyone have a list of what automatix does and what packages it installs for each option, so I don't have to use it and fuck up my kubuntu install?06:00
martalliBearcat, that's for certain - I have heard plenty of professional its folks quite upset with vista06:00
martalliDoctor_Nick, Check out the automatix website06:00
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don_!dvd06:00
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:00
martalliDoctor_Nick, It will tell you what it installs, although they update it frequently and it develops and loses functionality over time06:01
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Bearcatmartalli:  http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20070418/   I don't see an edgy torrent. I can't go straight to feisty?06:02
Doctor_Nickmartalli: i mostly just want it for installing all the media codecs and auto-detecting and mounting my ntfs drives and marking them read/write06:02
martalliBearcat, I don't think so.  I would just reinstall if that is possible06:02
bluekitsuneHow to i set up the nvidea drivers in feisty?06:02
bluekitsunenvidea*06:02
bluekitsuneer06:03
hitmanWilly!nvidia06:03
bluekitsuneYa06:03
bluekitsuneXD06:03
hitmanWilly!ati06:03
Doctor_Nick!nvidia06:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:03
Doctor_Nicki think it hates you hitmanWilly06:03
martalliDoctor_Nick, Supposedly it will install codecs automatifcally on its own06:03
hitmanWillyapparently... :(06:03
martalli(I mean feisty)06:03
Bearcatthank you martalli. I'm gonna scamper off and help them next week after i've downloaded the dissc06:03
Doctor_Nickmartalli: this is false06:04
Doctor_Nickonly mp3s06:04
jordo23Where do you manage Remote desktop in Kubuntu Feisty?  The Create and Manage Invitations is gone....06:04
Doctor_Nick(on kubuntu, at least)06:04
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hitmanWillyand that's just amarok06:04
Doctor_Nickyeah :/06:04
Doctor_Nickand amarok crashes when you open an mp306:04
martalliDoctor_Nick, Yeah, I actually used the medibuntu repos, because I started witht he beta and it never offered me codecs06:04
Doctor_Nickmartalli: I know about the medibuntu repos, but there's other packages that it installs too06:05
hitmanWillymartalli, they have a package ubuntu-restricted-extras that installs all that stuff06:05
hitmanWillymartalli, ie mp3, flash, java, etc.06:05
dennisterk...bout to take the plunge: edgy to feisty...server first, clean install.........hmmm.....anyone here installed mythtv on feisty yet?06:05
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martalliDoctor_Nick, I used it for edgy without problems, but it as hard upgrading to feisty06:06
bluekitsunegeez06:06
Doctor_Nickmartalli: I know, that's why I dont want to use it06:06
dennisterthe howto for feisty says to do the nvidia proprietary drivers *after* mythtv install...in edgy you did it *before* any mythtv stuff06:06
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jordo23!vnc06:07
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:07
bluekitsuneI cant seem to get my vid card to work at all06:07
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Bearcat*scampers off*06:09
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morphius_How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.06:10
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don_cant get dvd to play06:11
Admiral_Chicago!libdvdcss06:12
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:12
don_i have downlaoded dvdlibcss2 but it still want play anyone have ideas06:12
Admiral_Chicagohmm, don_ sorry I'm a bit busy atm to help06:12
hitmanWillydon_, did you run the script that libdvdcss2 came with?06:12
don_no what is that06:12
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hitmanWillydon_, look at the ubotu link for setting it up06:13
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chemicalvampmy res is stuck at 640x480! how do i get it back to 1024x768?.. (i crashed AGAIN and now its all fucked up)06:14
don_it says no script found06:15
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hitmanWillydon_, you also need libdvdread306:15
don_i got that one two06:15
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don_i have it but it still say there no file06:16
chemicalvampactually im supposed to have 1280x800 any ideas?06:16
hitmanWillydon_, the path is incorrect, its /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/06:16
don_cool man thanx got it working06:17
hitmanWillydon_, took me a little bit to find it too06:17
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chemicalvamp!ati>chemicalvamp06:18
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dacI need a 20, 40, 60, 80 GBHD for an packard bell box, any suggestions?06:19
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chemicalvampim having some bad issues here, if anybody can help06:22
orcoSaludos a todos06:22
chemicalvamp!es06:22
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:22
orcoGracias06:23
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jordo23Can someone tell my why I have tightvnc server running but cannot for the life of me connect to it when the correct ports are forwarded?06:24
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jordo23!vnc06:25
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:25
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crabgrasspartitioning question: i have a drive, and i need a reiser partition for my os (/ as the mount point, i assume) an ext3 partition for my stuff (/home as mount point, i think) and a swap partition, but... i don't know how to set this up in 7.04's guided partitioner. can anyone help?06:26
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chemicalvampcan anybody tell me why edgy crashes while doing nothing, then reverted to the defualt MESA diver... nd wont take the fglrx driver?06:31
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chemicalvamphow do i reconfigure xorg.conf?06:38
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morphius_How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.06:42
lettuce_I just reinstalled kubuntu, and browsing the web is slow. I remember that there's a quick way to fix it but I forget how, help please :(06:43
morphius_try disabling ipv606:43
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chemicalvampahouls i Use kernel framebuffer device interface?06:43
lettuce_thank you06:44
hitmanWilly!ipv606:45
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:45
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danihy i use the kclean to wipe junk files but now my fiesty won't boot07:02
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JackPhilif konsole scrolled, the screen will not be refreshed clearly07:03
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chemicalvampwhats the command to view video RAM size?07:04
JackPhilis it about fonts?07:04
darrylin redhat I can send email using mail command - in Kubuntu this command seems to be missing - what is the command to send emali from comand line07:06
fdovingchemicalvamp: 'free -m'07:06
fdovingchemicalvamp: you can also do 'cat /proc/meminfo' for more info.07:06
Doctor_Nickmatt damon wont stop calling her07:07
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fdovingdarryl: it's in the 'mailx' package.07:08
darrylfdoving: thanks07:08
Grape_JuiceDon't forget mailutils. :)07:09
Grape_JuiceThose are handy...07:10
fdovingoff to work. bye,.,07:10
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chemicalvampfdoving i dont see my video on there, but thanks07:12
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chemicalvampThere are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.07:21
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premier_hello, I'm trying to get my computer to execute a shell script everytime I press the Multimedia play pause button, but its giving me a lot of greif07:21
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premier_when I press the button, I get a little box in the upper right hand corner of the screen, which says:07:22
danikhanhy07:23
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premier_"XF86AudioPause" over and over again.  I can click on it and it will do different things, none of them being things I want them to do07:23
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premier_also, I can't play or pause music, or mute, or anything, when the screen is locked-- I assume that the screen locker prevents amarok from recieving my multimedia keys.  Is there a way around this?07:26
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david_Hi.... I'm trying to get WINE working and it's not letting me browse files or add a virtual C drive.... not sure what do do... I even re-installed it.. same thing07:28
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premier_david_ what do you mean?  What are you trying to do?07:29
supergimpanyone know how to "poke" open arena through my guarddog firewall?07:29
david_I just want to use wine to install a program... I open Wine Configuration... Then I select drives to add a C drive because it tells me I don't have one... But when I apply one, it forgets when I re-open it.07:29
david_And I can't browse for the file I want to install, because Wine shows a blank browse box07:30
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supergimphave you tries the wine browser?07:30
david_Umm....07:31
supergimpcediega is much easy to install windows programs anyways07:31
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david_Really?  I didn't know there was another option... Can I install cediega from adept?07:31
supergimpi know im spelling the name wrong lol07:32
supergimplet me look07:32
hitmanWillydavid_, no, you have to actually pay for cedega07:32
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david_ahh well....07:32
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david_I'm not sure why wine is being so finickey... I got it to work on other installations.07:33
david_LOL- I just found cedega on a piratebay search... is that ethical? lol07:34
supergimpstfu and just do it07:35
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david_k07:35
Lynouredavid_: if you have to ask, you pretty much know the answer...07:35
david_yeah07:36
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supergimpok 1 problem solved on to me, anyone use guarddog firewall?07:37
supergimpand play open arena..?07:38
Lynoure15 dollars, including 3 months of support and 3 votes on where the development will go is not very expensive. Less expensive than most games to be run on it07:38
tildeIs the Kubuntu upgrade tool supposed to be this slow? (downloading at about 500-1000b/s)07:38
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supergimptilde, go to manage sources then manually pick your dowload server or choose pick best server for me07:39
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supergimpunder adept07:39
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tildeYeah...I got the "there's a new release" button, and now the upgrade tool is downloading packages...taking forever...07:40
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james__Where's the Ubuntu tsk mgr?07:41
supergimpthis is kubuntu?07:41
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james__yes07:41
supergimpgo ask in kubuntu07:41
james__It is07:42
james__"#kubuntu"07:42
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supergimplol ubuntu07:42
james__x.x; shhhhhhh07:42
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supergimplook in your start menu07:43
supergimpits around there somewere07:43
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tildesg -- thanks...can I just kill the upgrade while it's in the download phase without worrying?07:46
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mrdlouisdi got ahold of some icons i really like, how do you go about making a folder for them and installing them?07:47
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mrdlouisdtutorials are fine i dont know where to find them07:47
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seraphhi all07:56
seraphI upgraded to Feisty and now I can't mount any USB drives07:57
seraphI've tried all four of my drives and none work07:57
fadingblackHey Everyone i'm pretty new to linux and i recently started using beryl, but for some reason my Desktop cube stopped working. I have tried to Change the settings through the manager but They have no effect...Help?07:57
seraphI searched through the bug db and found someting that applied to the beta but it wasn't resolved...07:57
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seraphhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/9875107:58
seraphthat's the bug07:58
seraphanyone know of a workaround for this?07:58
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blenheimMy Feisty Fawn don't like to communicate with sata2 systems... Where's the problem?07:59
seraphit really does seem like a critical bug07:59
chemicalvamp_anybody know what would cause my computer to just freeze up?07:59
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seraphchemicalvamp_: could be any number ofthings07:59
seraphpower supply failing, overheating, hardware failing07:59
seraphetc.07:59
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seraphbad RAM07:59
fadingblackany solutions to my cube crisis?07:59
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blenheimdepens on what are you doing when freezes07:59
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blenheimso many questions and no answers :)08:00
chemicalvamp_blenheim chatting on gaim + reading www.bash.org + listening to amarok08:00
chemicalvamp_+ downloading on amule08:00
blenheimcan you see your temps from mboard and processor?08:00
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chemicalvamp_huh?08:01
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blenheimWhat kind of hardware you have in your case?08:01
blenheimand which power supply08:01
chemicalvamp_laptop08:01
blenheimok08:01
blenheimwell, makes things interesting :P08:02
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fadingblackalthough i've changed my settings to reset my cube it wont even let me unfold it...it's almost as if it doesnt exist08:02
chemicalvamp_its new to me.. i dont know why its doing it..08:02
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chemicalvamp_once after a crash i logged in under 640x480@6008:02
blenheimI've put my guess to faulty power supply08:02
nonuda!qemu08:03
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo08:03
chemicalvamp_had to reconfigure xorg.conf, but i guess it didnt help08:03
supergimpanyone use guard dog firewall & play games help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42361208:03
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chemicalvamp_this laptop is brand new, with battery08:03
fadingblacksometime's you can get factory defect cords08:03
fadingblackit's quite common08:03
chemicalvamp_my battery is full.. how could it be the cord08:04
fadingblackwhat does it do when it crashes? does it just shut off, or do you get the blue screen?08:04
chemicalvamp_and if it was power related wouldnt it power off completely?08:04
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chemicalvamp_it feezes my screen08:04
chemicalvamp_and music.. broken record effect08:05
fadingblackhow much memory do you have on your hard drive remaining08:05
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fadingblackspace**08:05
chemicalvamp_62.1gb08:05
fadingblackremaining?08:06
chemicalvamp_yup free08:06
fadingblackwow08:06
fadingblackWhat's the model08:06
chemicalvamp_of hdd?08:06
fadingblackno of the notebook08:06
chemicalvamp_gateway mx642608:06
chemicalvamp_80gb total08:07
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fadingblackwhat version of linux are you running?08:07
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chemicalvamp_edgy all updates08:08
FireTalonanyone know of any apps for linux that show a directory of online tv stations then let you watch them?08:08
fadingblacksorry what distribution?08:08
fadingblackoh ok08:08
chemicalvamp_edgy 6.1008:08
fadingblackHmm...08:08
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chemicalvamp_wonder if i remade my kernel if it would help?08:09
chemicalvamp_i still use the generic one08:09
fadingblackprobably not08:10
fadingblacki think it's a hardware problem not a software08:10
chemicalvamp_never had a problem before08:10
fakepatriotthe only thing i can think of is that maybe you haven't installed the drivers for your graphics card08:10
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chemicalvamp_i remember seeing "ERROR" in updates.. but sudo apt-get -f install didnt do anything08:11
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fadingblackdid you recently install Java?08:12
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chemicalvampyes for azureus client, but it never would load for me, so i uninstalled it08:13
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dxdthow is Kubuntu Fiesty does it have stuff like the codec installer and things available?08:13
chemicalvampi bet i still have packages left over from not doing auo-remove08:13
dxdtI guess my real question  is, in my experience Ubuntu is usually more polished than Kubuntu and I'm wondering if that is still the case08:13
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chemicalvampdxdt play an mp3 on amerok and it installs the codec.. that what you mean>08:14
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dxdtI guess like I've said, I've often found Ubuntu slightly more refined than Kubuntu and I was wondering if it was still the case.  Video codecs will now be autodownloaded by the new codec installing thing they keep advertising ins screenshots of gnome, but does it work that way in Kubuntu as well?08:16
FireTalonyes, it does08:17
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david_I noticed the installation of Ubuntu worked out of the box much more cleanly than Kubunty.... And that's sad because I like KDE better08:17
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FireTalonhmm08:17
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FireTalonthis install of kubuntu worked better than the install of ubuntu I did before it08:17
supergimpim eating a can of creamcheese icing mmmmm08:18
david_heh... I guess we all have our differing experiences... lol08:18
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chemicalvampnobodies box is the same :)08:18
seraphkubuntu has been flawless except for this USB thing08:18
seraphnad yes08:19
chemicalvamplol if were talking feisty your foregtting about the wireless bugs08:19
seraphubuntu will always be more refined than kubuntu08:19
seraphchemicalvamp: eh?08:19
supergimpcervicalclamp?08:19
chemicalvampseraph many many many people including myself are having varying wireless problems08:19
chemicalvamplol08:19
seraphoh08:20
forty5yeah don't like my wireless card on my laptop08:20
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Admiral_Chicagoif I have more than 10 windows in irssi, how can i quickly move to window 1108:20
Admiral_Chicagowithout doing /win 1108:20
seraphq08:20
seraphalt+q08:20
seraphand so on08:20
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Admiral_Chicagosepeck: can you explain how to go to 12?08:21
Admiral_Chicagoqwerty?08:21
crimsun+w08:21
crimsunyes, for qwerty08:21
crimsunit's a bit more obtuse for alternate keymaps08:21
Admiral_Chicagoso I'll hack it for dvorak i suppose08:22
Admiral_Chicagothanks daniel, seraph08:22
seraph:)08:22
dxdtdavid_, yeah, that's been my problem too.  I like KDE better, and right now I'm an ubuntu user who apt-get installed kubuntu (edgy)  and I'm just trying to make the decision of whether to go straight Kubuntu or Ubuntu with Feisty.08:23
dxdtPersonally I get the feeling as I use KDE that it is like for linux grownups08:23
epimethhrm... how do I configure my ipod mountingness?08:23
epimeth!ipod08:23
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod08:23
epimeth!rockbox08:24
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!08:24
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dxdtit seems to have more info and things available.  One thing for example is that the wireless manager, when you hover your mouse of an ap, will display way more info than the other gnome one and stuff like that08:24
MaxtehmantusWhy does the graphical installer not show me my partitions on sdb?08:24
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MrWGWis there a way to automagically enable 3D effects with Kubuntu Feisty?08:25
MrWGWto the same degree that's possible in regular Ubuntu08:26
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MaxtehmantusAnyone?08:27
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MrWGWwhat was your question Max?08:28
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supergimp3D works for intel chips out of the box, that all i know08:28
MrWGWyes, I know, it works fine in Ubuntu08:28
MrWGWI'm just trying to figure out -how to turn it on-08:28
MrWGWin Ubuntu, it was straightforward08:28
MrWGWin Kubuntu though I'd really like to use it, as I prefer KDE08:29
JucatoMrWGW: there's no one-click app to enable Compiz on Kubuntu08:29
Jucatoat least none yet08:29
Ash-Fox3D works for my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY graphic card out of the box.08:29
MrWGWah well08:29
MrWGWis there a CLI instruction?08:29
JucatoMrWGW: you'll have to check with #ubuntu-effects08:30
MrWGWon Freenode or ubuntu IRC?08:30
tonyyarussothose are the same thing08:30
MrWGWerr nvm08:30
JucatoMrWGW: same banana08:30
Jucatoubuntu irc (as of now) is freenode08:30
Jucatohi tonyyarusso :)08:30
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: servers are not bananas...08:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol08:31
tonyyarussohey Jucato - this is me pretending to know beans about KDE (I don't)08:31
tonyyarussoAdmiral_Chicago: I installed OpenBSD on a banana once.08:31
Jucatolol08:31
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Admiral_Chicagohomework08:32
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epimethJucato: long time no see!08:34
epimethwhat up?08:34
MaxtehmantusMrWGW: I just downloaded the kubuntu LiveCD, and am trying to install it onto the hard drive. I can not see my partitions from sdb2 though.08:35
Jucatoepimeth: sky's still up, fortunately :)08:35
MaxtehmantusWhich is where my swap drive, home drive, and space for the installation is.08:35
epimethJucato: why do I insist on using idiomatic expressions around geeks?08:35
epimethJucato: don't answer that08:35
Jucato:P08:35
epimethJucato: how do I get my ipod to mount onto /media/ipod ?08:36
epimethright now its on /media/FRED (FRED is its name)08:36
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Jucatoepimeth: ah I'm not sure how that is determined... sorry08:36
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JucatoI don't even have an iPod... :D08:36
Jucato(and that makes me a bit happy :P)08:36
Maxtehmantusepimeth: You could do it manually.08:36
epimethJucato: say it aint so!!!08:36
epimethMaxtehmantus: yeeees?08:37
MaxtehmantusAs root: mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod08:37
MaxtehmantusOr replace sdb2 with whatever device it is.08:37
Jucatoyou could probably set it manually in fstab08:37
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Jucatothat is, if it uses the same /dev08:37
Jucatothat is, if it uses the same /dev always08:37
MaxtehmantusYes, and that would still require you to enter it manually to mount.08:37
MaxtehmantusAnd you'd need to umount it before removing.08:37
MaxtehmantusOtherwise it has issues, and you can't plug it in again without rebooting.08:38
epimethwhen i plugged it in I got some sort of a device manager... how can I get back to it?08:38
MaxtehmantusGonna try swapping master with slave.. Might help.08:38
MaxtehmantusNot sure, havn't used kubuntu yet. Not sure of all the features, only the base Linux kernel. :P08:39
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epimethJucato: you know maybe?08:40
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Jucatoyou don't get the popup anymore when you plug it in?08:40
epimethI didn't try...08:40
epimeth:-)08:40
epimethI'd like to know how to get to it anyway :-)08:41
Jucatohm.. device manager... the one for amarok or the one for kde which asks you if you want to open, play or do nothing08:41
JucatoI think they're triggered by mounting, not sure how to bring them up manuallyh08:41
JucatoI have no portable media player either :P08:41
Jucatoexcept for my phone :D08:41
epimethhow is that possible???08:42
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Jucatoeasy: I'm not a media person :)08:42
Jucatoor rather, not an audio person08:42
epimethyou think you're too cool for school, dontcha?08:42
Jucatoand the only music I listen to are those that I can't understand the lyrics of. :)08:42
epimethc'mon... everybody needs some music in their life!08:42
epimethlike what?08:43
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krautmoin08:46
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Alarmgoodmorning . is it possible to tell me the settings that are written in the "System Settings" entry in the Kmenu ? its like a directory with its subcategories, and not just a shortcut08:49
toyd_Friends08:49
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epimethAlarm: I'm not sure I understand the question.... they are all there....08:50
toyd_friends08:51
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Alarmepimeth,  i did something in my Kmenu. and now the shortcut instead of a shortcut where u press on it and opens a window. its a category , like "Internet" , with its subcategories, look and feel, personal, administration , services and so on. got it ? :)08:51
MaxtehmantusStill doesn't seem to work.08:52
MaxtehmantusDoesn't seem to be able to retrieve info on the hard disk.08:52
epimethAlarm: systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m08:52
toyd_how can i make kubuntu look like mac?08:52
Maxtehmantusqtparted says "Critical error during ped_disk_new!"08:53
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MaxtehmantusBut I can mount my existing ext3 partitions.08:53
epimethMaxtehmantus: you sure its not just a different device than you are used to?  I know my disks were switched inexplicably from hdc to sdb08:53
Alarmepimeth, doesnt seem to work. is there any path or something else listed ?08:53
epimethtoyd_: good god why would you want to?08:53
toyd_Maxtehmantus: use a restore point08:53
MaxtehmantusI know it's the drive I'm thinking of.08:53
Alarmor terminal options08:53
Maxtehmantustoyd_ I'm trying to install kubuntu :P08:54
toyd_oh08:54
MaxtehmantusUsed Gentoo before, few things I couldn't get working though.08:54
toyd_isnt this for xp08:54
Maxtehmantus#kubuntu :P08:54
toyd_i know08:54
epimethAlarm: sorry man... thats all that appears in Command... try checking the "Enable launch feedback" checkbox08:54
JucatoAlarm: what are you trying to do? change the ordering of the System Menu entries in K Menu?08:54
toyd_me kid lots08:54
toyd_i am retarted08:55
toyd_so how do change please08:55
AlarmJucato,  goodmorning. no.  i did something in my Kmenu. and now the shortcut instead of a shortcut where u press on it and opens a window. its a category , like "Internet" , with its subcategories, look and feel, personal, administration , services and so on08:55
MaxtehmantusI know it's the correct drive, as I can mount my /usr /tmp /storage that I used on Gentoo.08:55
Alarmwait , iwill make a snapshot08:55
toyd_nalioth:08:55
toyd_help me08:55
MaxtehmantusAnd it automounted the swap drive I used.08:55
JucatoAlarm: you didn't change anything, you just added as special menu to the kmenu08:55
Alarmwell and i cant change that anymore :)08:55
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Jucatoright-click on kicker (KDE panel), Configure Panel -> Menus -> uncheck [ ]  System Menu from the list08:56
Alarmit is uncheckd...08:57
Jucatohm?08:57
Jucatook screenshot08:57
toyd_how do i open a new server tab in konversation ctrl+t isnt working08:58
Alarmhold on. cause its kind of difficult . the menu dissapears when i try to snapshot :)08:58
Admiral_ChicagoAlarm: timed screenshot08:58
Maxtehmantustoyd_ Just File > Quick connect08:58
MaxtehmantusIt doesn't override your current connection.08:58
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JucatoAlarm: set a delay when taking the snapshot08:59
Alarmyes saw it, i did that, i am uploadint it08:59
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MaxtehmantusIs there some terminal based installer?09:00
MaxtehmantusI don't really like the GUI one. Doesn't seem to work.09:00
JucatoMaxtehmantus: installer for Kubuntu?09:00
Jucato!alternate | Maxtehmantus09:00
ubotuMaxtehmantus: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal09:00
MaxtehmantusAlways have problems with GUI installers for Linux, but the terminal ones work fine.09:00
Alarmhere it is: www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot2.png09:01
Alarmsorry for its size.09:02
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Alarmwaits for what ? :)09:03
Jucatofor it to load09:03
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Jucatoseems like my connection is slow today :(09:03
Alarmwait i will resize it09:03
forty5time to get a new hd tommarow owell goodnight all09:03
JucatoAlarm: nvm, saw it09:03
Alarmoh ok09:04
Jucatowow that's the first time I've ever seent hat09:04
Alarmehehe me too09:04
Alarmthe point is i cant remember changing something09:04
JucatoAlarm: can you try this command: kdcop kicker kicker restart09:04
Alarmelse i would do the steps backwords09:04
Alarmon console ?09:04
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epimethno fair!  I want cedega!09:04
Jucatocrazy, if you ask me... but a bit useful09:04
JucatoAlarm: Alt+F2 would be fine09:04
epimethand whats that cool thing on the right?09:04
Alarmepimeth,  buy it09:04
epimethlol09:04
epimethseriously09:05
Jucatosuperkaramba09:05
AlarmJucato, nothing seems to appear09:05
Jucatoepimeth: either buy it or use cedega cvs, which is free iirc09:05
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JucatoAlarm: nothing appears where?09:05
Alarmbuying it its worth. its just a few dollars09:05
Alarmwell with  kdcop kicker kicker restart09:05
epimethcedega cvs is free?09:05
JucatoAlt+F2 should bring up the run command dialog box09:05
epimethno way!09:05
JucatoAlarm: ah. yeah nothing will appear. it just restarts kicker :)09:06
Alarmi did09:06
Alarmwell, it didnt change anything09:06
Jucatowell, cedega is worth it if you know that the app you are trying to run will really run on it09:06
Alarmalarm@rockpc:~$ kdcop kicker kicker restart09:06
Alarmkdcop: Unexpected argument 'kicker'.09:06
Jucatooh frack sorry09:06
Jucatodcop kicker kicker restart09:06
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Alarmok, did it09:07
Alarmthe tastkbar disappeared for a second09:07
Alarmbut the menu is still the same09:07
Alarmi also restarted the machine but this didnt change anything09:07
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AlarmJucato, if i would create a new entry of  the System Settings , wouldnt it work ?09:07
livenicelyhello09:07
Alarmi just dont know the entries of that shortcut in the kmenu09:08
JucatoAlarm: not really sure, but maybe...try editing the menu09:08
livenicelycan kubuntu 7.04 play mp3 without extra installation09:08
Alarmwell in the edit , its as u see just like a folder09:08
Jucatolivenicely: nope. not built-in. but you can easily install it09:08
Alarmnow command options or something09:08
livenicelyi can hear sound with .dat or vcd when i play it in kaffeine09:09
livenicely*cant09:09
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epimethsoooo... how do I unmount the ipod??09:09
Alarmepimeth,  isnt there any unmount when right clicking on it ? doesnt it unmount it automatically when u unplug it ?09:10
Jucatoright-click -> Safely Remove?09:10
Jucatolivenicely: install the package named libxine-extracodecs09:11
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Alarmok,  lets go on my other question i will load the live cd and check the settings about it :)09:12
epimethAlarm: I'd rather not just unplug it....09:12
epimethwtf is lrm???09:13
JucatoAlarm: in the first place, it shouldn't be a folder in the K Menu. it should be an app: systemsettings (filename)09:13
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Alarmokie09:14
Alarmthank you :)09:14
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AlarmJucato,  look this09:14
Alarmalarm@rockpc:~$ systemsettings09:15
AlarmThe program 'systemsettings' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:09:15
JucatoO.o09:15
Jucatodid you uninstall it or something?09:15
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Jucatothe package name is kde-systemsettings09:15
Alarmhonestly i cant remember uninstalling it. i uninistalled some internet unwanted apps, but surely nothing from settings09:15
Alarmyes, u are right09:15
Alarmshould i install it , or thats not what we want09:16
epimethJucato: I tried the unplug/plug in thing.... the popup didn't appear?09:16
JucatoAlarm: try installing it09:16
Jucatoepimeth: hm... not really sure what's happening there09:16
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GuHHHneed some help, i can load my xserver but i cant run the ubuntu but only on recovery mode, because the screen goes black when ubuntu logo must appears, how do i edit the options to donot load the graphical interface on loading or how i edit the graphic options?09:17
AlarmJucato,  ok, that was it...09:17
Alarmfixed.09:17
Jucatogreat09:17
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Alarmdont ask me how or why, but the applications wasnt installed09:17
JucatoI won't ask you how or why. Though I'm gonna presume you were on crack when that happened :P09:18
epimethJucato: and you don't know how to get to that device manager thing?09:18
Alarmhehehe :)09:18
GuHHHno one?09:18
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Jucatoepimeth: you are correct in guessing that09:18
AlarmGuHHH,  startx ?09:18
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GuHHHi can run xserver09:19
GuHHHbecause i reconfigured it09:19
GuHHHbut i cant still load my ubuntu execpt by recovery mode than startx :)09:19
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Alarmcould it be a xorg or gdm issue ?09:20
GuHHHand the keyboard just starts to blink the lights and do not works anymore09:20
Jucatoan #ubuntu issue?09:20
Alarmhave u tried to restore an old xorg.conf file back ?09:21
GuHHHit only happens with ubuntu, because it tries to load the logo and sh...09:21
JucatoGuHHH: what was the last thing you did before reconfiguring your X server?09:21
GuHHHif i do that i cant run xserver :)09:21
GuHHHnothing...09:21
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GuHHHjust installed my system :)09:22
Jucatohm...09:22
GuHHHmy xserver only works after i reconfigure it, even on debian...09:22
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GuHHHso it was the first thing i did09:22
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livenicelyhow i can use my zcyber genie ultra capture card with kubuntu 6.1009:23
Doctor_Nickhow do i stop vertical tearing in videos and games and such09:24
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epimethokaaay... I think it might be a gui editor for mtab... you wouldn't happen to know anything about that maybe?09:29
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Alarmsomething else. ok i can live without it actually. but how can i change the way menus on a window or the buttons look like , at the moment they look like this: http://www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot1.png , i changed everything from style , as also from window decoration, but it doesnt seem to be there. the buttons or menus seem to look so "massive" .09:30
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epimethaaaand here's an interesting one... when I plug it in to one usb plug it appears as an ipod and I can right click "remove safely"... in the second its just a folder09:32
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Alarmusb1 and usb2 maybe ? although this shouldnt make a difference09:32
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epimethAlarm: nope... all usb209:33
epimethactually, now its appearing as a folder no matter what09:33
Alarmhappens sometimes the same with my external. but i still can work well with it09:34
Alarmor when i unplug it , the folder remains till the next reboot09:34
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supergimpyo der is a usb bug with laptops eh09:37
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supergimpfrom dis article http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17759/Ubuntu-With-Great-Power-Comes-Great-Responsibility/09:38
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supergimpjus saying jus saying09:39
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solemnwarningIs there a guide to upgrading etch to 7.04?09:41
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supergimpyes there is but im not looking for it :009:43
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Dimanishsolemnwarning: ypu want tp upgrade debian etch to kubuntu 7.04? :-009:44
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epimeth!pmount09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
epimeth!automouint09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automouint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
epimeth!automount09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
epimeth!auto-mount09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about auto-mount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
epimetharrrrrggggggggg09:46
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mefisto__is realplayer in any of the feisty repos?09:47
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Ilokaasuepimeth: man mount ?09:48
supergimp!mount09:49
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:49
epimeth!DiskMounter09:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse09:49
epimethfinally!  cheers :-)09:50
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epimethnope.... wasn't it09:51
supergimp?09:51
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epimethsupergimp: when I plugged in my ipod the first time some program popped up which allowed me to edit removable devices... you wouldn't happen to know what that program is, would you?09:52
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tmskeI have a linux question, but maybe somebody here knows what to do, I have accedentaly overwritten a folder with a file (stupid gtk dialog), does somebody know how to recover?09:53
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dragunov_ciao10:03
dragunov_ciao a tutti10:03
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Doctor_Nickdoes anyone know how to fix the vertical retrace problem with the ati drivers?10:04
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nu-anyone here know how do to syntax hiliting on nano?10:08
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tonyyarussonu-: yeah, it's all in your /etc/nanorc and ~/.nanorc, which reference things in /usr/share (which you can configure-just play with it)10:14
tucoI need help to make sure I configure the ATI drivers properly. Yesterday I installed them through Adept but then I couldn't log back in as I was stuck in the boot menu...10:14
nu-tonyyarusso: thanks10:14
epimethokay.... I'm going nuts... google is useless.... <shout>why is the ipod automounting as /media/name of ipod???? where is the automount settings???</shout>10:15
epimethit took all of my self controll not to hold down shift...10:16
epimethamazing how when I get angry I need to capslock10:16
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tucoany help with my ATI drivers please?10:18
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GuHHHtuco: what exactly:10:19
GuHHHtuco: what exactly?10:19
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GuHHHanyone knows if is it possible to run beryl with fglrx drivers?10:19
tucoThank you GuHHH. I have downloaded and install the ATI drivers from Adept.10:20
GuHHHtuco: which one? fglrx?10:20
tucoI need help to configure them so I can have my 1280x800 resolution displayed normally for my alptop10:20
tucoyes10:20
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GuHHHdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:20
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GuHHHtuco: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:21
tucoin the terminal yes?10:21
GuHHHwhen it asks for the driver, put it: fglrx10:21
GuHHHyes10:21
tucoand after that10:21
GuHHHtuco: and then add the resolutions you want10:21
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tucoit said that: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root10:21
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GuHHHtuco then press ctrl-alt-backspace and after that, startx, it must work :)10:21
GuHHHtuco put sudo before the command, always when it asks for root10:22
tucoah yes true dumb me :-)10:22
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GuHHHtuco or just do sudo passwd root and set a password for root :)10:22
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xjkxwhat jvm comes on kubuntu?10:23
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MaxtehmantusCan anyone help me with getting this LiveCD to use one of my secondary HDDs correctly?10:23
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GuHHHdoes anyone knows if is it possible to run beryl with fglrx driver?10:23
tucoWoooow I am lost GuHHH.10:23
MaxtehmantusI can mount partitions from it, but can't manage them, which I need to do for install.10:24
epimeth!partition10:24
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter10:24
GuHHHtuco tell me ...10:24
Maxtehmantusepimeth: I think it's the kernel.10:24
epimeth!GParted10:24
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php10:24
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epimethMaxtehmantus: what is?10:24
tucoCan I paste somewhere so you can see?10:24
Jucato!paste | tuco10:24
ubotutuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:24
epimethisn't there some sort of partitioning software installed by default???10:25
epimeth!QTParted10:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
MaxtehmantusWhen I try listing the partitions of this drive in QTParted, it gives me an error.10:25
MaxtehmantusYes, QTParted is on the LiveCD10:25
GuHHHtuco: do that ubotu said :D10:25
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17742/ Thank you10:25
MaxtehmantusIt's not the program.10:25
MaxtehmantusIt's the kernel.10:25
Maxtehmantus"Critical error during ped_disk_new!"10:25
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MaxtehmantusThe install program can't do it either, and I doubt that relies on QTParted.10:25
epimethMaxtehmantus: I'm wondering for myself... not you :-)10:26
epimethits not installed by default10:26
epimethgrrrr10:26
MaxtehmantusIt is on this LiveCD. :S10:26
GuHHHtuco: its dpkg-reconfigure do not use space10:28
MaxtehmantusIs it possible to prevent it from automounting my swap drive? I think it might be why.10:28
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tucoOh10:28
epimethMaxtehmantus: actually... I think you are wrong... qtparted isn't showing me any partitions at all10:28
MaxtehmantusIt's showing me correct partitions on one of my HDDs.10:29
tucoso that should be sudo-dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?10:29
Maxtehmantussda, doesn't work with sdb though.10:29
MaxtehmantusSame with the kubuntu installer.10:29
Maxtehmantus(GUI)10:29
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GuHHHtuco: no, no...10:30
_4strOhi there10:30
tucoAie aie aie10:30
_4strO;p10:31
GuHHHtuco: do this, please... type "sudo passwd root" without quotes and choose a password for root10:31
tucodone :-)10:31
GuHHHtuco okay, now type "su" and put your password if asked10:32
tucodone :-)10:32
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epimethwaaaittttt.... why????10:32
epimethsudo -i10:32
epimethall you need10:32
epimethyou really really don't need to enable the root user10:32
GuHHHtuco: now that: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:32
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epimethoh well... too late10:33
epimeth:-)10:33
tucowow a big grey window appeared now10:33
GuHHHwhat it says? hehe10:33
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hatterhow do i disable the power manager ?  each time the system boots i get a kde crash handler10:33
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tucothe title is Configuring xserver-xorg10:34
GuHHHhatter: -noapic on command line10:34
nu-tonyyarusso: didn't work10:34
tonyyarussonu-: which part?10:34
GuHHHhatter: -noapic on boot command line10:34
GuHHHtuco: does it asks for something? :P10:34
nu-tonyyarusso: hiliting10:35
hatterGuHHH: thx, this goes where ?  some startup script ?10:35
tucothis is what I have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17743/10:35
tonyyarussonu-: which syntax are you trying to use?10:35
tonyyarussonu-: try copying /etc/nanorc to ~/.nanorc10:35
GuHHHhatter: on grub or lilo10:36
nu-tonyyarusso: python, and i did. inside ~/,nanorc i copied python.nanorc into it10:36
tonyyarussonu-: I unfortunately desparately need to go to bed - if you don't figure it out perhaps I could help you another time?10:36
hatterguhhh: ok, thx :)10:36
tonyyarussonu-: easier to just source them in10:36
tucowhat should I do GuHHH?10:36
nu-tonyyarusso: alright. ill keep trying. thanks10:36
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GuHHHtuco: choose fglrx10:37
tucoit is not showing up there10:37
tucothis is what I have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17743/10:37
GuHHHtuco: it must or u didnt installed it :P, try scroll down10:37
tonyyarussonu-: this might help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17744/10:37
MaxtehmantusGParted has the same problem as qtparted and the installer.10:38
tucoahhhhhhhhhhhh yes10:38
MaxtehmantusWonder if I can fit a backup of sdb2 on my portable hdd.10:38
tucoI need to provide with a name myself now or do I use the one saying Generic video card?10:39
tucoit is an X1400 Ati Radeon10:39
weiminjiI cannot surf  the internet!10:40
GuHHHtuco no matter, anything will work :D10:40
tucoOk10:40
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GuHHHtuco: framebuffer can be off, u can auto detect the keyboard layout10:41
tucoIt is asking me the amount of memory now?10:41
cathyhey ppl; having a problem with getting an irc module i just compiled to load...how do I force it?10:41
GuHHHtuco: mouse settings can be /input/mice ... emulate 3 buttons...yes10:41
GuHHHtuco: just type enter10:41
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17745/10:42
cathysorry: lirc module i just built -- not irc10:42
tucoso I say no to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17745/10:42
GuHHHtuco: just enter10:42
tucosorry this  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?10:42
GuHHHtuco: can say no10:43
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tucoKeyboard variant?10:44
GuHHHtuco: just enter10:44
tucokeyboard options?10:44
cathyanyone installed mythtv/lirc into feisty yet? having a problem10:44
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GuHHHtuco: enter again :P10:44
tucoMouse port?10:44
GuHHHtuco: whats the one highlighted?10:45
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tuco /dev/ input/ mice10:45
nu-anyone know how to enable syntax hiliting with nano?10:45
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cathyi following the howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-350a6e652d6cce60c78f4f754031dd597cca3d78 and dmesg definitely says the i2c module isn loading, how do i force it to load?10:45
tucoit should be that one GuHHH right?10:46
GuHHHtuco: yes, go ahead :)10:46
tucoMouse protocol?10:47
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tucoImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2?10:47
GuHHHtuco: the first one10:47
GuHHHtuco: imPs/210:47
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GuHHHberyl ppl just doenst help :(10:48
tucoX.org modeules that should be loaded by default?10:48
GuHHHtuco: press enter again :)10:48
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17746/10:48
GuHHHtuco: just go ok10:49
MaxtehmantusWtf? GParted shows sdb2 as being empty.10:49
tucoWrite default Files section to configuration file?10:49
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GuHHHtuco: yes10:50
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tucoall done10:51
tucoctrl-alt backspace now?10:51
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GuHHHtuco: before taht10:52
GuHHHtuco: before that, try aticonfig --initial10:52
insmod7.04 still can't shut down an acer lol10:53
tucoFound fglrx primary device section10:53
GuHHHtuco: then ctrl-alt-backspace and startx :)10:53
tucoNothing to do, terminating.10:53
GuHHHtuco, okay, thats right10:53
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tucoIt hasn't change the resolution GuHHH! :-(10:55
GuHHHtuco: did u choose your resolution when it asked for?10:56
tucoyes 1280x80010:56
tucoshall I do it again?10:56
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tucostill 1024x768 arghhhh10:56
hatterhmmm, why do the ide devices show up as /dev/sda ?10:56
GuHHHtuco, no...10:56
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GuHHHtuco: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:57
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tucoin terminal?10:57
GuHHHtuco: yes, then press ctrl-w and type Screen10:57
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hatterdo we still use fstab ?  /dev/hda1 is commented out10:58
GuHHHtuco: tell me what says on "DefaultDepth"10:58
Jucatohatter: yes we use fstab10:58
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tucoctrl-w and tyoe screen at the same time or after?10:58
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Jucatohatter: /dev lines are commented out because we use their corresponding UUID's (which are not commented out below the /dev lines)10:59
Jucato!uuid | hatter10:59
ubotuhatter: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:59
hatterjucato: this is for udev ?10:59
GuHHHtuco: after, when u press ctrl-w it will ask for a word to find on the text, type Screen :)10:59
hatterubotu, jucato: thx10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jucato: thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
GuHHHlol11:00
tucodone :-)11:00
GuHHHhatter: ubotu is a bot :D11:00
hatterlol11:00
GuHHHtuco: tell me what is says on DefaultDepth11:00
Jucato!thanks | hatter11:00
ubotuhatter: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)11:00
tuco2411:00
tucoModes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"11:00
GuHHHtuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says 2411:01
tucoyes11:01
GuHHHtuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says Depth 2411:01
hatterThanks Mr Bot !  (or are you a girl ?)11:01
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tucoDEfault Depth?11:01
GuHHHtuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says Depth 24, put there the resolution you want "1280x1024", and remove the other ones11:01
hatterjucato:  blkid is only showing the mounted devices ?11:01
tucomodes you mean?11:02
MaxtehmantusLol. I just added a "1280x1024" before all "1024x768" on my other distrib.11:02
_4strOGuHHH: not necessary to remove the others11:02
MaxtehmantusAnd it used 1280x1024 by default.11:02
GuHHH_4strO: ...11:02
hatteri want to add a new partition to fstab, /dev/sdb111:02
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icecruncherhow can you make a shrourtcut execute as sudo? The command  should be something like sudo "sh /file"11:02
Jucatohatter: no. it shows all partitions11:02
tucoGuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17748/11:02
icecruncher*shortcut11:02
Jucatohatter: have you tried using System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks & Filesystems?11:03
GuHHHtuco: are u sure u had configured the dpkg-reconfigure to the end? :P it asked you for monitor configuration?11:03
hatterjucato: oh, people use the graphical environment ?11:03
tucoI think I did yes GuHHH11:03
hatter(which of course I am right now)11:03
tucoor maybe not...confused now!11:04
Jucatohatter: if you want to. it automatically detects the UUID for you11:04
Jucato(at least on Feisty)11:04
GuHHHtuco: go down to where it says SubSection "Display" and under it, Depth 2411:04
tucoabove it you mean :-)?11:04
GuHHHno, under11:05
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tucoThere are two SubSection Display11:05
GuHHHtuco: its the last SubSection on Screen Section11:05
tucoOK11:06
GuHHHtuco: if the default Depth is 24 then must be a Depth 24 subsection :P11:06
tucothe one with the modes11:06
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GuHHHtuco: then on modes, put "1280x1024" and remove the others resolutions11:06
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tucomy laptop goes up to 1280x800 only :-)11:07
hatterok, disks & filesystems added the line to fstab as per usual, without the UUID11:07
GuHHHtuco: put there whatever you preffer11:07
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GuHHHtuco: just remove the others...11:07
GuHHHtuco: just a minute11:08
tucoyes11:08
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GuHHHtuco: hi11:09
epimethI forgot the web development package?11:09
tucoYo11:09
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ExpositionOfEvilhey11:09
ayjamobHey. When i start program in kubuntu, i dont see them, egz. Amarok. But when i restart a computer, i see them in the traybar.11:09
epimethQuan something11:09
ExpositionOfEvildoes anyone know any proxies for xchat?11:09
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ian__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=253811411:09
tucothis is what I have now GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17750/11:10
GuHHHtuco:11:10
GuHHH   SubSection "Display"11:10
GuHHH                Depth           111:10
GuHHH                Mode        "1280x800"11:10
GuHHHshould be this:11:10
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GuHHH  SubSection "Display"11:11
GuHHH                Depth           2411:11
GuHHH                Mode        "1280x800"11:11
tucook done :-)11:11
GuHHHtuco: just replace Depth 1 for 2411:11
GuHHHtuco: now ctrl-alt-backspace and startx :D11:11
ExpositionOfEvilMode             "1280x1024" "1280x800"11:11
tucoIf I leave 1280x1024 can I use an external screen?11:12
_4strO!pastebin11:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:12
icecruncheranyone?11:12
tucoa 19 icnch which supports 1280x102411:12
GuHHHoh, sorry for the 3 lines flood :)11:12
_4strOtuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17751/11:12
ExpositionOfEvildoes anyone know any proxies for xchat?11:12
_4strOtuco: yours will be the same expect the resoltion11:13
_4strOexcept*11:13
GuHHHtuco:  dont do that what _4strO says :)11:13
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_4strO:p11:13
GuHHHtuco: u will mess everything we have done11:13
tucoHey guys you want me to go crazy...I already did with the wireless on Fesity :-)11:14
_4strOGuHHH: think he as two subsection with depth 24 ...11:14
tucoFeisty sorry!11:14
tucoNo I leave it as it is GuHHH :-)11:14
icecruncheris it possible to sudo password command?11:14
tucoDo I save or not before ctrl-alt backspace?11:14
_StefanS_icecruncher: yes, sudo passwd11:14
GuHHHtuco: please, paste ur xorg.conf just for caution :)11:15
_4strO;)11:15
GuHHHtuco: save it.11:15
tucoyou too are brothers no! :-)11:15
icecruncher_StefanS_: so i could write this in a desktop shortcut "sudo password command"?11:15
ExpositionOfEvilanyone know a good proxy?11:15
_4strOtuco: paste the entire section "Screen"11:15
ExpositionOfEvil=(11:15
_StefanS_icecruncher: you would need to use kdesu then11:15
icecruncherahh11:15
_StefanS_icecruncher: does the same, but provides af gui for it :D11:16
icecruncherthanks11:16
_StefanS_af/a11:16
tucoVoila: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17752/11:16
_StefanS_icecruncher: np :D11:16
dromercan someone help me get this irssi-script to work? http://www.irssi.org/scripts/html/amaroknp.pl.html  it's for nowplaying of Amarok, but irssi and amarok are on two different pc's, the script needs the "dcop" of amarok to work, but I don't know how I can make it access it over the network11:16
ayjamobHey. When i start program in kubuntu, i dont see them, egz. Amarok. But when i restart a computer, i see them in the traybar.11:16
ExpositionOfEvilanyone know a good proxy?11:16
GuHHHtuco:  SubSection "Display" is alone in the end of file:11:16
GuHHHtuco:  SubSection "Display" is alone in the end of file?11:16
tucoAh!11:17
tucoSo what should I do then :-) ?11:17
_4strOayjamob: when you start amarok you will see it in the traybar :p (no need to reboot)11:18
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ayjamobbut i don't see them11:18
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GuHHHtuco paste the entire Section "Screen" until you see EndSection11:19
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ayjamoband not only amarok. and not always programs hiding..11:19
tucoI did no?11:19
pingvenoI'm trying to get my right Alt key on a ThinkPad to map to the Win/Super key. How would I do that?11:19
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GuHHHtuco: if u did, u messed the entire xorg.conf, lol11:19
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pingvenoThinkPads, of course, don't have a Win key11:19
icecruncher_StefanS_: how do i bypass the password box, i don't want it.11:20
icecruncherlol11:20
ayjamobprogram are in process but not in panel or traybar, only on restart i see them11:20
_StefanS_well you dont ;)11:20
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17755/11:20
ademananyone willing to tell me their success/failure rate resizing ext3 partitions with (g|q)parted?11:20
GuHHHtuco fullscreen the terminal and copy the entire section11:20
_StefanS_icecruncher: you cant really bypass the dialog, because thats why you use it :)11:20
_StefanS_icecruncher: it is supposed to popup11:20
icecruncher:)11:20
_StefanS_:D11:21
_StefanS_icecruncher: bah :P11:21
llutzicecruncher: you _can_ configure sudo that way no password is needed, but you won't want that! :)11:21
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17756/11:21
tucoI never pasted so much in my life geeez!11:21
GuHHHlol11:21
GuHHHtuco: is that the end of ur file?11:21
_StefanS_pingveno: you can remap the keyboard you using some commandline stuff. But I think you need to go into the KHotkeys control panel to figure it graphically11:22
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_StefanS_llutz: just my point ;)11:22
tucosilly me!11:22
_4strOGuHHH: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be easyer11:22
GuHHHtuco: send me ur xorg.conf and i will edit it11:22
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17757/11:23
pingveno_StefanS_: How would I go about finding that?11:23
icecruncher_StefanS_: i get the following11:23
icecruncherKDEInit could not launch 'Kdesu'.:11:23
icecruncherCould not find 'Kdesu' executable.11:23
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_StefanS_icecruncher: case sensitive.. your on unix11:23
tucoI can see the error now...aie aie aie11:23
icecruncheroops11:23
_StefanS_pingveno: well I was trying to remember because I actually remapped my keyboard once11:23
_StefanS_icecruncher: take your glasses, and polish them ;D11:24
pingveno_StefanS_: I tried running khotkeys on the command line, but there was an error11:24
pingveno"ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."11:24
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_4strOtuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ (your file with corrections)11:24
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_StefanS_icecruncher: bigbrother is watching you.11:25
icecruncherhahaha11:25
tucoYes...I didn't see that I could extend the window! pfffffffffff11:25
GuHHHtuco: no, no, no...11:25
_StefanS_pingveno: maybe you can use this: http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/key-remapping.txt11:25
GuHHHtuco: dont do anything...11:25
llutzpingveno:try using xmodmap11:25
pingvenollutz: I tried out xmodmap, but I'm having trouble getting it to work :/11:26
GuHHHtuco: wait a minute, dont edit ur file11:26
tucook11:26
_StefanS_pingveno: yea xmodmap .. that was the one11:26
_StefanS_pingveno: http://www.microserf.org.uk/weblogs/archives/000193.html11:26
pingvenok11:26
_4strOGuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ let him put this :p11:26
tucothe first line is wrong though, it needs to be Depth 1 I guess!11:26
pingvenoAh, perfect11:26
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pingvenoI'll try that out11:26
_StefanS_yep should work.11:26
GuHHH_4strO: no man.11:26
_4strOwhy ?11:27
GuHHHtuco: just remove that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17760/11:27
tucowhy GuHHH?11:27
_4strO...11:27
GuHHH_4strO: because u have it duplicated on ur file11:27
GuHHHops11:27
_4strOniet11:27
GuHHHtuco: because u have it duplicated on ur file11:27
ExpositionOfEvilanyone use proxy?11:28
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tucoit was DEpth 1 originally11:28
_4strOjust change the one he gave11:28
tucomy mistake because I changed it to 24, but there was 24 at the bottom of that line!11:28
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_4strOtuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ trust me11:28
_4strO:p11:28
GuHHHtuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17761/11:29
GuHHHtuco: it must be like that11:29
pingvenoThat's one beautiful interface on xkeycaps11:29
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_4strOGuHHH: stop that !!!11:29
GuHHH_4strO: please, dont mess the whole thing, im doing it the right way, part by part11:29
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tucoguys...11:30
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GuHHHtuco: please, do as i told you11:30
_4strOGuHHH: on the depth 1 line an "s" is missing at mode11:30
tucoI am getting really tired, so just tell me what I need to do to get into 1280x800 pleeeeeeeeease!11:30
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_4strOtuco: do what you want but know that this one is correct ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/11:31
GuHHHtuco: okay, ur screen file should be like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17763/11:31
_StefanS_tuco: btw, you should just leave that HorizSync and VertRefresh out of the config file. Thats what I recommend anyways, let X decide what ranges your monitor can handle11:31
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GuHHHlol11:31
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tucoArggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh11:31
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tamsheyya11:31
GuHHHtuco: man, im trying to help you, just listen to me... it will work, trust me11:31
tucoOk I do as you say you helped me so far/11:31
dromerhow can I make an script of one computer have access to the dcop-server of another pc on the network?11:31
GuHHHtuco: just make ur screen section looks like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17763/11:31
llutz_StefanS_: why?  most displays offer DDC-data, much better to use them11:31
GuHHH_4strO: i know it may work, but im trying to make it fail-safe, copy?11:32
GuHHH:)11:32
_4strOGuHHH: Modes           "1280x800""11:32
_4strO...11:32
GuHHHlol11:32
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_StefanS_llutz: well you may not have read my sentence fully... I acutally said he should leaven them OUT of the file11:33
_4strOand i'm not sure i'ts a giood idea tu put only one resolution11:33
hatterhmmm, in gnome there was a desktop network thing that found the windows shares on the network automatically, what is that program in kde ?11:33
GuHHHtuco: a second please11:33
llutz_StefanS_: ops,sry11:33
_StefanS_n11:33
_StefanS_np11:33
_4strOGuHHH: you will finish by write the same as the one I do11:33
GuHHHtuco: here is the correct, i mystyped the other http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17764/11:33
GuHHH_4strO: it will force that resolution, simple11:34
dromerhatter: don't you mean samba?11:34
GuHHHtuco: just make ur screen section like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17764/11:34
hatteryes, the smbclient, in the gnome it was automatic, quite nice11:35
tucoOk I messed up by deleting some stuff in the terminal. Can I restart from scratch?11:35
dromerhatter: afaik in DKE it's also automatic ..11:35
GuHHHtuco: yes11:35
_4strOtuco: you can "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:35
dromerhatter: KDE*11:35
tucoOk I close it11:35
hatterkonqueror just did it, but i had to put the machine name in11:35
GuHHHtuco: can u send me ur xorg.conf? :)11:36
GuHHHtuco: i can do that for u11:36
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tucoHow can I send it to you GuHHH?11:37
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llutztuco: just paste it11:37
_4strOlol11:37
llutzto paste.ubuntu... off course11:37
ian__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=253811411:37
GuHHHtuco: click on my nick with right button, send file11:37
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_StefanS_So why arent you guys telling him to use a terminal and the ncurses based interface found in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -a ?11:37
_StefanS_He can construct a file from there11:38
GuHHHtuco: or try paste the whole file ...11:38
tucoIt isn't funny Astro. I am a beginner so obviously I ask silly questions!11:38
GuHHHtuco: or try paste the whole file ... and we edit it for you11:38
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tucoDo I do that from the terminal or Kate GuHHH?11:38
_4strOtuco: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" is for open your file in a graphical text editor ;)11:39
MaxtehmantusQuestion: How do I make the installer treat a partition as a swap drive?11:39
MaxtehmantusOh, duh.11:39
MaxtehmantusWrong fs.11:39
hatterdromer: you are right, the main screen of konqueror finds the smb shares11:39
Jucato:/11:39
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_4strOtuco: i think uit would be easyer for you11:39
GuHHHtuco: do as _4strO told and paste it11:39
dromerhatter: (Y)11:39
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Jucatohatter: or smb:/ or remote:/ in Konqueror will also11:39
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dromerok, so anybody here with dcop-skills that can help me with my problem? :)11:40
hatterjucato: thx11:40
MaxtehmantusAlso, does kubuntu treat all HDDs as sd*, or just the LiveCD?11:40
_4strOMaxtehmantus: all11:40
hatterthis kubuntu is great :)11:40
Jucatodromer: why not ask the question and then we'll find out :)11:40
MaxtehmantusOk.11:40
GuHHHtuco: so?11:40
tucoGuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17766/11:40
hatterthink i prefer kde over gnome11:40
dromerJucato: I did two times already ;)11:41
Maxtehmantus^^11:41
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MaxtehmantusKde > Gnome11:41
hatteragreed11:41
MaxtehmantusThe devs of KDE should change the default theme though.11:41
dromergnome is ok if your like .. 511:41
Jucatodromer: not everyone will be able to see those 2 times :)11:41
dromerJucato: ok, I'll paste again ;)11:41
MaxtehmantusThey make people turn away from it because of that. I can't stand the default theme.11:41
bi0h4z4rdmornin folks, I've got what could be a quick question, or it may be a little more involved, is there a way to run two LAMP machines with almost instant failover?11:41
tucoGuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17766/11:41
GuHHHtuco: okay11:41
tamsMaxtehmantus: any good theme advice?11:41
dromercan someone help me get this irssi-script to work?  http://www.irssi.org/scripts/html/amaroknp.pl.html  it's for  nowplaying of Amarok, but irssi and amarok are on two  different pc's, the script needs the "dcop" of amarok to  work, but I don't know how I can make it access it over the  network11:41
JucatoMaxtehmantus: default themes are in the area of distros already though. not KDE itself11:41
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Jucatodromer: ah... quite... unusual :)11:42
dromerJucato: in what way unusual? :P11:42
GuHHHtuco: now in the same window that u had make ur copy, erase everything and paste this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17767/) there and save it11:42
tamsdromer: what about last.fm?11:42
MaxtehmantusThen why do distribs always use the same default theme?11:42
MaxtehmantusAnd on the KDE site, the navigation examples are of this theme.11:43
GuHHHtuco: or better, save that file as a backup... :)11:43
Jucatodromer: dcop over network... unusual for me... so I don't know :(11:43
GuHHHtuco: and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17767/ your new xorg.conf and save it11:43
dromertams: tried it, but seems very illogiral to send the info first to some server ocrass the world, then back to my pc that's standing right next to it ..11:43
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dromerJucato: oh, ok11:43
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tucook done GuHH11:44
GuHHHtuco: after u saved it, please, past again11:44
GuHHHi mean, *paste11:44
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dromertams: using last.fm also has lots of delay, I want my np to reflect what I'm playing _now_11:45
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GuHHHtuco: did u paste it?11:47
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marnickhi - i am looking for help with an upgrade problem11:49
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GuHHHstdin: wheres stdout?11:49
nbcb!samba11:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:49
icecruncherdeleting a directory is like this right? rm -d name11:49
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GuHHHmarnick: be more specfical11:49
GuHHHrm -rf name11:50
hattericecruncher: rm -fr name11:50
stdinGuHHH: he's out at the moment :p11:50
nbcbis samba the only way to share files with windows?11:50
stdin!samba | nbcb11:50
ubotunbcb: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:50
icecruncher:)11:50
tucoYou want me to paste what the terminal shows GuHHH?11:50
GuHHHstdin: i see, like always11:50
nbcbare there other ways?11:50
hatternbcb: no you can mount the smbfs11:50
stdinnbcb: ftp, http, ssh ...11:50
GuHHHtuco: yes, did u edited as i told and saved it? also did u make a backup of the other file?11:50
hatteryou can ftp, ssh,11:50
hatterwinssh works11:51
marnickapologies, I submitted a bug Bug 110182 and someone kindly replied but i need a bit more help.11:51
hatteroops11:51
hatterwinscp11:51
hatteror tunnelier11:51
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tucoYes I did11:51
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GuHHHmarnick whats ur problem exactly? ppl cant help you if u dont help them to understand you11:51
GuHHHtuco: paste it to me please11:52
nbcbok for windows to be able to search for network drive, i must use samba right?11:52
tucofrom terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17770/11:52
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stdinmarnick: just do as he asks11:52
marnickwhen i run the update wizard it stops with the error11:53
marnickFailed to fetch11:53
marnickhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz11:53
marnick404 Not Found11:53
GuHHHtuco: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste11:53
hatternbcb: search ?11:53
_4strOnbcb: right !11:53
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GuHHHtuco: so i can see the whole file, its better, so i can see if ur file is okay11:53
hatternbcb: you can mount the smb share, then cp to/from it11:54
marnickthe reply suggested I modify sources.list but there is nothing in htere that relates to amarok specifically11:54
stdinmarnick: comment out the source that loos something like "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok/ edgy main"11:54
tucoKate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1777111:54
GuHHHmarnick yes, there is...11:54
stdinmarnick: check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/11:54
GuHHHmarnick go to sources.list and comment that line11:54
marnickok - 2 seconds11:54
nbcbhatter: yup the search for network .. ok i install samba first11:55
_4strO...11:55
GuHHHtuco: okay, ctrl-alt-backspace and startx11:55
nanothiefhey, whats in the dvd of kubuntu feisty that isn't in the cd?11:56
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marnick:-) yes there is ! heheh I missed it 1st time round.  thanks guys11:56
GuHHH:)11:56
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tucoYeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!11:56
GuHHHtuco: :)11:56
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tucoHalleluiah Dude...11:56
tucoAfter all this time.11:57
tucoThank you very, very much mu friend!11:57
hatternbcb: mount.smbfs11:57
tucoDon't go, don't go...I have a few questions left for you :-)11:57
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GuHHHtuco: hey... now make a backup of xorg.conf11:58
GuHHHtuco: and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17772/ your xorg.conf and test it again11:58
tucoI have an audigy 2 zs notebook card for the laptop and another onboard sound. How can I make the audigy2 the default one please GuHHH?11:58
MaxtehmantusFinished installation.. Now to see if it works.11:58
MaxtehmantusBeen fairly trivial, including backing up 2 partitions and wiping a HDD.11:59
GuHHHtuco: first of all, u have to disable the onboard sound on bios12:00
tucoHold on...I back up the file on desktop but it doesn't show anything when I look for it!12:01
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GuHHHtuco: no, no... just rename ur xorg.conf to xorg.backup or something and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17772/ your xorg.conf  do u know how to do that?12:01
gholmhi all. how can I tell if 32 bit or 64 bit kubuntu is installed?12:01
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dwidmanngholm uname -m12:02
gholmdwidmann: thanks12:02
GuHHHtuco: u can do it on terminal like this: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup12:02
_4strOGuHHH: sudo cp ...12:03
gholmdwidmann: i686 is 32 bit right?12:03
dwidmannyep12:03
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GuHHH_4strO:  whatever12:03
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_4strOGuHHH: mv will delete the source12:03
GuHHHyes, but he will make another one...12:04
_4strOha ok12:04
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stdinnanothief: the DVD is the desktop install and the alternate install cd in one, you can also do a server or OEM install from it. it also has more packages on it, so you can use it as an apt- source12:04
GuHHHi just hope he did as i told, lol12:04
GuHHHoh, good, hes back :D12:04
tucoDone GuHHH :-)12:04
GuHHHnice, is it at 1280x800?12:04
tucoyes sir ;-)12:05
GuHHHok then, everythings okay12:05
tucoVery nice indeed12:05
tucoOne thing12:05
tucoor a few sorry :-)12:05
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GuHHHtuco: dont worry about that, im pleased to help12:05
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nanothiefstdin, thanks12:05
GuHHHtuco: did u disabled ur onboard soundcard on bios?12:05
tucoCan't do that it's a laptop!12:06
_4strOtuco: you can ;)12:06
tucoThe notebook card is lit, so it means drivers are installed. All I need is to make this card the default one.12:07
tucoCan I disable it really?12:07
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_4strOtuco: yep12:07
tucoIn windows I can but here...12:07
GuHHHtuco: u have to.12:07
GuHHHtuco: its on BIOS... press del or f1 when booting12:08
dwidmanneasiest way to all-out disable something is to blacklist the drivers12:08
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GuHHHtuco: but i do not suggest u to mess there if u dont know what u are doing :P12:08
tucoOk will do that. But what Should I do to have the audigy card the default one?12:08
_4strOdwidmann: where you blacklist module ?12:09
_4strOdriver12:09
dwidmann/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist12:09
CugelDudes, I'm going to ask this question again, since last night we were unable to solve it.12:09
_4strOok thx12:09
CugelI want to run xscreensaver on my first screen only (0:0). I just don't understand the manual where it says to use [-display host:display.screen]   -- what do I enter there???12:09
GuHHHdwidmann: but what driver? :P12:09
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dwidmannlsmod migth give you a hint on that one12:10
CugelI've tried _everything_ and it keeps saying it's unable to open the display (0:0)12:10
stdinCugel: -display :0.012:10
dwidmanngoogle  might too12:10
_4strO:p12:10
stdinCugel: use the right syntax :)12:10
CugelTrying...12:11
CugelI've tried all kinds of syntax already :-)12:11
stdinCugel: 0:0 = display "0" on host name "0"12:11
GuHHHlsmod |grep snd12:11
CugelAt least I don't get the error this time!12:11
dwidmannspeaking of multiple screens, is there any way to get katapult running on both of my screens (using xinerama)12:11
stdinCugel: :0.0 = display "0" screen "0" on the localhost12:11
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Jucatooh so that's what :0:0 means :)12:12
stdinJucato: no :0.0, not :0:0 :P12:12
GuHHHdoes anyone knows if is it possible to get beryl working with fglrx driver (ati proprietary driver)?12:12
dwidmannJucato: so it would seem, I think that means I learned something today too12:12
_4strOGuHHH: yes but you have to user XGL12:13
_4strO-r12:13
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tucoGuHHH thanks so much for your effort mate. Much appreciated :-) You're a star!12:20
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GuHHHtuco: lol, thanks... but im not! i will try to help everytime i can :)12:20
tucoCouldn't disable onboard sound in the bios though, all I need is make the Audigy 2 card the default one.12:21
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GuHHHtuco try to do as dwidmann told... blacklisting the modules for ur onboard soundcard12:21
GuHHHtuco: try lsmod |grep snd and paste it12:22
tucowhat is the command please?12:22
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tucoI guess I did it a different way let me reboot :-)12:24
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Cugelstdin: I did xscreensaver -display :0.0 &   -- but my display 0:1 (my television) is still also blanking!12:26
dial-toneGuHHH: so kubunta can detect Sound Blaster Audigy, due to right now, it detects my onboard sound card snd_ac97_codec.12:26
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tucoDid it GuHHH :-)12:27
stdinCugel: I don't know much about xscreensaver app, I just know what the displays are called12:27
CugelI can't find any working example on the big interweb.12:27
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tucoFeels so good to stop using Vista (Sick!)12:28
dwidmanntuco: Is it really that bad? (I can only imagine)12:29
dial-tonedwidmann: its a nightmare, you have to search for alot of the drivers and some programs that come off sourceforge will not work12:29
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tucoHonestly...so heavy...takes so much ressources. Response is slow in eveything you do...it might nice but it needs a big machine. My laptop runs like a dream on Kubuntu :-)12:30
GuHHHtuco is it working?12:30
tucoYes sir :-)12:30
tucoI did it12:30
Cugelstdin: I tried verbose mode and it says: "running on display ":0.0" (2 screens)"  -- aha! So... how do I get it to run on the one screen?12:30
GuHHHtuco: u must disable the services on VISTA12:30
tucoNope12:30
tucoU must disable Vista at all!12:31
GuHHHtuco: windows isnt a bad system u just have to know how to use it :D12:31
tucoI know believe me12:31
GuHHHi love my XP, anyway :)12:31
GuHHHit loads only 90mb on memory12:31
tucoCan I install Beryl now GuHHH? :-)12:31
GuHHHwith everything installed12:31
dial-toneGuHHH: Xp is good.. Vista is nightmare at the moment12:31
GuHHHdial-tone: yeah, really, i dont even used vista, but i know it sucks, at least for gaming :D12:32
dwidmannGuHHH: tried fluxbox?12:32
tucoVista is toooooooooooo heavy12:32
dwidmannit loads *very* light also12:32
GuHHHdwidmann: what for? less memory usage?12:32
stdinCugel: :0.0 should mean only one screen, unless the app can't only display on one screen12:32
CugelIndeed. Hmm.12:32
GuHHHdwidmann: but i cant game on linux, not as good as i want :D12:33
stdintuco: I played with vista for nearly half an hour, then installed feisty and haven't looked back12:33
GuHHHdwidmann: so thats not the point, but i tried it, yeap :)12:33
dial-toneGuHHH: had my laptop in for repair, they installed Vista, due to they wiped out my XP drive. Been playing for a few months, it really bad12:33
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GuHHHtuco http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon12:33
tucoI am on the same path Stdin :-)12:33
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tucoIt is in the repo Guhhh. My card will support it yes?12:34
tucoATI X140012:34
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GuHHHtuco: type lspci and tell me whats ur videocard chipset12:35
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tucoGuHHH: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X140012:37
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MaxtehmantusInstall worked.. Unfortunately, didn't back up /usr :(12:38
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compilerwriteranybody have a clue what is going on with the Monitor & Display Module not working for some reason?12:39
tucoFeisty is an aboslute delight to use now...I am in love again folks!12:39
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GuHHHtuco: is it everything? :/12:41
tucoOnly the video card part. Why?12:41
GuHHH01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK [Radeon X800] 12:41
GuHHHit should show the Rxxx wich is the chipset version12:41
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tuconah it isn't there12:42
tucoI only put ATI RADEON X1400 when I entered the info12:42
tucoX1400 is the chipset12:43
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MaxtehmantusWhy am I not able to configure a second panel?12:44
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GuHHHtuco: no... its the videocard model :P12:44
tucowell nothing else that I can see my friend12:45
GuHHHtuco: yes i know, itsnt ur fault :)12:45
tucoBeryl should work no?12:46
GuHHHtuco: well, u can try install beryl and configure everything, i guess the worst thing is that you may not run xserver (startx) anymore, but its remotely possible :P12:46
_4strOno12:46
GuHHHor maybe, just beryl. ;P12:46
tucoHoh what's that mean GuHHH?12:46
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tucoI may not run xserver?12:47
GuHHHtuco: well, in my case, the only driver that i can run xserver is with fglrx, hopefully it wont help with u12:47
GuHHH:P12:47
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tucoThis is the driver I have for my ATI no?12:47
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GuHHHtuco: yes, but running beryl with that is very difficult :P12:49
tucocrap12:49
dusty-workHey guys I am installing kubuntu on my laptop (dual booting with windows) I have 50gb of unpartitioned space left on the drive.. i want to use 2gb for swap and the rest for / then install linux onto it. THe issue i have is, when i get to the partition bit of the kubuntu install the options I get are: guided resize, guided use entire disk or guided use the largest continuous free space or manual.. (i tried before and it kept m12:49
dusty-workaking the partition 2gb which is not enough) what should i do to get what i want?12:49
tuco:-(12:49
tucoDamn I wanted to use Beryl...12:50
GuHHHi will restart X, just a moment12:50
dusty-worktuco, beryl is nice :)12:51
dusty-workI got it working yesterday.12:51
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dusty-workso about the partitions anyone?12:51
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tucoLooks like I can't!12:51
Mez|OnAirwhats the best way for me to share my music between my desktop and my laptop?12:51
ian__how do i check my kde version?12:52
tucoI kept 50 gig for windows because I run Reason and I need space for samples, the rest went to Kubuntu :-)12:52
JohnFluxMez|OnAir: both linux?12:52
JohnFluxian__: Help->about  kde    in any kde app12:52
Mez|OnAirJohnFlux, indeed12:52
JohnFluxMez|OnAir: install ssh, then use  fish:/12:53
Mez|OnAir(or will be once I've installed xubuntu on the laptop12:53
ian__ty JohnFlux12:53
Mez|OnAirJohnFlux, I want it to be able to load the music collection in amarok though12:53
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Mez|OnAirso my co presenter can play with the music and see whats worth playing12:53
JohnFluxMez|OnAir: maybe nfs is better12:53
Mez|OnAirJohnFlux, though I could use a fusssh mount12:54
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tucoSo GuHHH can I run Beryl at all? :-(12:54
JohnFluxMez|OnAir: sure, but might as well use a filesystem properly designed for this12:54
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JohnFluxMez|OnAir: nfs is probably more than capable12:54
JohnFlux!nfs12:54
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:54
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GuHHHtuco: u can try... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon12:54
GuHHHtuco: but it seems ur video card isnt supported, but give it a try12:54
GuHHHtuco: i guess the worst that will happen is that beryl wont load :D12:55
tucoWell I don't want to risk it. It is too much of a pain to install the ATI drivers etc...12:55
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tucoCan you write a script of how it needs to be done for me please in case something bad happens one day! :-)12:55
tucoThat would be great GuHHH12:56
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GuHHHtuco: sadly i dont know much about beryl, never installed it, by the way, im trying it right now... lol12:57
AussieHatterhmmm,  just after i told someone how great kubuntu is it crashed hard on me12:58
GuHHHbut i suggest u to follow this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon           as i am doing :D12:58
AussieHatterwhat am i supposed to do when it completely freezes and I have to do a hard reset ?  does kde have a crash log or something ?12:58
_4strOGuHHH: i tried it and works fine for me12:59
tucoBeryl feels like just a lovely lady you want to invite for a drink but always refuses the invite!12:59
_4strOlol01:00
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AussieHatterberyl looked good on mysystem,  though it doesnt work with xinerama i believe and i have 3 monitors01:00
dwidmannHmm, it doesn't?01:00
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dwidmannI think I might test that theory now, I'll bee-arrr-bee01:01
AussieHatterdwidmann: let me know :)01:02
GuHHH_4strO: i tried with fglrx, now im trying with free drivers :D01:02
Mez|OnAirJohnFlux, that howto is giving me a headache already ;D I was looking for something simple01:02
compilerwriterDoes anyone know if the Monitor & Display module being broken has a fix?01:03
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dwidmannHmm, I haven't used beryl in a month or two, but yep, something failed pretty miserably01:04
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Mez|OnAir!beryl | dwidmann01:07
ubotudwidmann: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:07
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AussieHatterhey !  thats me quitting !01:08
AussieHatterfrom my crashed fesity system !01:08
bi0h4z4rdanybody got any experience with kubuntu clustering and replication?01:08
AussieHatterten minutes later....01:08
_4strOtuco: you're always here ?01:09
_4strOGuHHH: and so ?01:09
GuHHHblackscreen/keyboard non-functional01:09
_4strOis beryl fine ?01:09
GuHHHvery nice. i loved beryl01:09
GuHHHlol01:09
GuHHHas i expected, the only driver i can run xserver is fglrx, sadly01:10
_4strOGuHHH: noway01:10
tucoYes was in shower after a night On Kubuntu01:10
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_4strOGuHHH: can you paste the xorg.conf u used ?01:11
GuHHH_4strO: its the true01:11
dusty-workHey guys, I have an issue when partitioning my drive from the kubuntu live cd... i choose manual, create a .boot partiton of 100mb then a swap of 2gb then the remaining free space turns into "unusable" and i cant create any more partitions??01:11
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GuHHH_4strO: yes.01:11
GuHHH!pastebin01:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:11
tucoI am sad I won't be using Beryl. Why me...why why.....!01:11
_4strOtuco: i can help you on it01:12
dusty-workanyone?01:12
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llutzdusty-work: there are other partitions on disk?01:12
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dusty-workyes01:12
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dusty-workwindows one01:12
dusty-worki am dual booting01:12
_4strOtuco: but you have to know that if you want beryl, you will not have good perf on openGL applications01:12
llutzdusty-work: so you have 4 primaries now?01:12
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dusty-workafaik01:13
dusty-workyes01:13
llutzdusty-work: you'll need one extended and in that new logical drives to use the space01:13
GuHHH_4strO: he has a radeon 1400, it may not be supported, but u can try :D01:13
dusty-workwhat mount poiont shall i make extended?01:13
llutzdusty-work: you cannot have more than 4 primary partitions01:13
dusty-workah01:13
GuHHH_4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17779/01:13
llutzdusty-work: delete boot or swap and turn it into extented01:14
dusty-workwhat should be primary and what should be extended (/, /boot and swap) ?01:14
llutzdusty-work: why do you need /boot?01:14
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llutzdusty-work: no difference primary/extended. linux uses all :)01:15
dusty-workllutz, don't know just a habbit making it01:15
llutzdusty-work: then forget about /boot  :)01:15
dusty-workok01:15
dusty-workjust swap and /01:15
GuHHH_4strO: i will be just back, a second.01:15
dusty-workso i make / first then swap later so that / is at the start01:15
llutzdusty-work: maybe extra /home01:15
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llutzdusty-work: makes upgrading easier01:16
dusty-worksweet01:16
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dusty-workthankyou very much llutz its all sorted now :-] 01:17
llutznp01:17
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grotsnikwhich is better synaptic or adept01:17
dusty-workI prefer apt-get :)01:17
llutzaptitude :)01:18
grotsnikpersonally i perfer synaptic01:18
llutzgrotsnik: use what you like01:18
grotsnikbut then again i have been ofline for three years01:18
_4strOGuHHH: on difference with my xorg.conf : Option "ColorTiling""on"01:18
GuHHH_4strO: do u have an ati too?01:18
_4strObut dont know if it change anything01:19
_4strOGuHHH: ati x60001:19
GuHHH_4strO: i cant run radeon driver at all :)01:19
_4strOweird01:19
grotsnikits all good01:19
GuHHHreally.01:19
grotsnikyes01:19
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dwidmannHmm, he was right, didn't work with xinerama01:21
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_4strOGuHHH: think you misszed something01:24
_4strOit have to work !01:24
GuHHHnot even vesa works01:24
GuHHH:P01:24
dwidmann??01:25
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GuHHHmy monitor just shuts down and keyboard do not work, so i cant even get back to command line01:25
dwidmannGuHHH: <sarcasm>have fun with your ATI card</sarcasm>01:25
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GuHHHlol01:26
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_4strOGuHHH: what i dont understand is the link between driver ati and keyboard features01:29
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deiphagemaybe try older more reliable driver01:29
GuHHH_4strO: lol,  not even i do01:29
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jpahi all01:31
jpaId like to install a kubuntu over an existing debian sid with LVM partitionning01:31
RatThingGuHHH, _4str0 check out wikipedia for explanation on X Window System :-)01:31
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jpaI have a /home of 36 Go I'd like Kubuntu to use01:31
jpaall others, I dont mind01:31
_4strORatThing: ...01:32
GuHHHwhat for?01:32
RatThing"what i dont understand is the link between driver ati and keyboard features"01:32
_4strOGuHHH: did you look at the xorg log ?01:32
RatThingXServer is the ATI driver01:32
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jpais that kind of thing possible booting with the "alternate" version ?01:33
jpawill kubuntu will see this lvm partitionning?01:33
_4strORatThing: u think my ati driver manage my keyboard ?01:33
_4strOlol01:33
deiphagei about to install MEPIS01:33
deiphageclames to be able to see non standard herdware01:34
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_4strOGuHHH: dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-glx01:35
amanda!konversation01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about migrate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
jpa!debian01:35
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!01:35
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GuHHH_4strO: its installed...01:36
tucoGot disconnected sorry guys01:37
GuHHH_4strO: ii  libgl1-mesa-glx                            6.5.2-3ubuntu701:37
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tucoso what's up with Beryl?01:37
_4strOGuHHH: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati01:38
_4strOtuco: if you want beryl you have to use the free driver01:38
tucowhat's that mean?01:38
_4strOtuco: that openGL application will be slow01:39
tucofor games?01:39
_4strOtuco: yes, the only one i can play is openarena01:39
vecina I need some help... VESA makes my monitor lose connection because of my graphics card, a Radeon x700 (I looked it up - everyone i found with my problem has that card. Drat). Well, fglrx or whatever makes it work if i set it up in xserver-xorg with recovery mode before loading up kdm/gdm/whatever. That works. But when i reboot, if i log in using normal mode (non-recovery), it's switched back automatically to VESA and i cant get in01:40
tucoNah don't care about games. I have my DS for that ;-) As long as I can make Beryl work on my Acer 5670 I am fine!01:40
_4strOtuco: ok :)01:41
GuHHH_4strO:  xserver-xorg-video-ati                     6.6.3-2ubuntu601:41
tucoso you reckon Beryl could work with the ATI X1400 then?01:41
GuHHHvecina: lol, welcome to the group01:41
_4strOtuco: cant say before trying :p01:41
vecinaLOL ati issues are going berzerk in feisty01:42
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GuHHHvecina:  i have the exactly same problem01:42
tucothere are not issues Vecina.01:42
vecinaGuHHH: You using a radeon x700?01:42
tucoThey are diplomatic incidents at this stage!01:42
_4strOweird i dont have any pb01:42
GuHHHvecina x80001:42
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vecinaGuHHH: We're getting snubbed for using ATIs01:43
_4strOi'm using an X60001:43
GuHHHvecina: try nano /etc/inittab and add the line: id:3:initdefault:01:43
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tucome A X140001:43
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_4strOtuco: you already have a backup of your xorg.conf file right ?01:43
stanleyhi guys01:43
GuHHHfuckin beryl and ati, just hate that01:43
stanleymy computer doesn't recognise vcd's01:43
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_4strO!codecs | stanley01:44
ubotustanley: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:44
stanleythen when i try playing them in kaffeine kaffeine closes01:44
stanleyi already installed the restricted formats01:44
stanleyall that stuff01:44
vecinathere is no inittab01:44
caris_mereHow can I change permissions of a directory and all its contents?01:44
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vecinawhats up with beryl and ati?01:44
tucoI think I do $stro01:45
tuco4stro ooops01:45
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tucothey are cheating on each other Vecina01:46
_4strO:)01:46
vecinatuco: How so01:46
tucoOne loves us, the other don't!01:46
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_4strOtuco: type "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri"01:46
GuHHHvecina: works as fine as it works when u boot ur ubuntu feist :D01:47
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tucowhat this this 4stro?01:47
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_4strOfor having beryl works :p01:47
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GuHHHhe probably has those packets already01:47
_4strOthink so but have to be sure ;)01:47
GuHHHpackages i meant01:47
vecinaaw01:48
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vecinaSoooooo any idea how i can make fglrx(sp) the default instead of VESA so it quits reverting back on reboot? Id like to be able to log in without reconfiguring xserver-xorg01:49
zengrongi m new man01:49
vecinaim just a new man.... yeah you made me live again *guitar*01:50
tucook then you'll be sure and I wait for you :-)01:50
zengrongwhat?01:50
vecinanothing lol01:50
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vecina*queen fan*01:50
_4strOtuco: can you paste your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:50
zengrongguitar ?01:50
tucowill the command affect my actual resolution 4stro?01:50
zengrongya .i love guitar01:50
tucook01:50
GuHHHvecina: dpkg-reconfigure or edit xorg.conf01:50
vecinaGuitar solo01:50
zengrongya01:51
GuHHHvecina: and do what i told you, on /etc/inittab, try it01:51
vecinaGuHHH: I did dpkg-reconfigure, but when im not using recovery mode it reverst back01:51
vecinaGuHHH: There is no /etc/inittab01:51
GuHHHso create it01:51
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17781/01:51
vecinaok, what do i put in it01:51
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_4strOtuco: ok i will write the new one :)01:52
tucoHUh!01:52
epimetharrrrg.... ugly windowsssssss01:53
zengrongbyby01:53
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epimethgeez... is nobody gonna fall for the bait?01:54
_4strOtuco: can you paste the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common01:54
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gholmhows this? The 32 bit Edgy sees my SATAII drive but the 64 bit doesn't.  Neither Feistys even load. What gives? I have an ATI 690G chipset01:55
epimethfine... I'll just ask then!01:55
epimethproblem occured as follows:01:55
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17782/01:55
epimethI installed quanta and all of its sister programs01:55
epimeththat worked fine01:55
epimethat the same time I installed the program that allows for unpacking of CAB files01:56
epimethdidn't test it, but I didn't run into any problems01:56
epimeththen I installed wine through the system configuration01:56
epimethnow I'm unsure when I ran into problems01:56
epimetheither at this point Konversation died01:57
epimethor it died after I ran ies4linux01:57
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epimethreguardless, it died and X refused to reopen it for whatever reason01:57
epimethies4linux did not install as expected01:57
tucoWill have to go soon people. Have an important meeting for work...4stro and GuHHH I will need your email addresses for future help and contact if you don't mind :-)01:57
epimethI got an error about not supporting wineconfigblablabla01:58
epimethand "go install the newest version!"01:58
epimethso I figured I'll ask you guys for help on that01:58
epimethit was then I realized Konversation wasn't reopening01:58
tucoMy best session in here today! Thumbs up guys :-)01:59
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epimethso I went to save the ies4linux error in kate01:59
epimethkate didn't open01:59
epimethso I saved it through nano01:59
tucoCookie me...cookie you...ahaha haaaaaaaaaaa01:59
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gholmanyone?01:59
epimethand reset the box02:00
gholmhows this? The 32 bit Edgy sees my SATAII drive but the 64 bit doesn't.  Neither Feistys even load. What gives? I have an ATI 690G chipset02:00
GuHHHtuco: uselessid@ig.com.br :)02:00
epimethkdm loaded juuuust fine02:00
tucoCheers GuHH...tell 4stro I will be back later on if he comes back :-)02:00
epimethput in my password, x / kde seemed to start loading (got a watch symbol for the cursor) and then found myself back in the kdm login screen02:00
tucoThanks for your contact my friend and for your help today! ;_)02:01
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epimethwhups... misread the thanks02:01
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_4strOtuco: ok02:01
tucoah man....your email address before I go please?02:02
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epimethso I try logging in again, to no avail02:02
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epimetha check of the old syslog gave the following, almost useless, info:02:02
tucoplease let me know about Beryl 4stro ok?02:02
_4strOtuco: to be sure type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"02:02
lettuce_Ok, I just updated kubuntu, but now I don't have the trash can in the bottom right corner. Where is it!?02:02
epimethkdm_greet [some pid] : INTERNAL ERROR: memory corruption detected02:03
epimethkdm_greet [some pid] : Can't open default user face.02:03
GuHHHepimeth: thanks :D lol02:03
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_4strOtuco: then "kdesu kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf"02:03
_4strOoups02:03
_4strO-x + c02:03
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epimethso can anyone help me? its gonna be annoying cuz I only have one machine... will have to reboot back and forth02:04
_4strOtuco: then "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:04
tucoI haven't done anything 4stro...I have to go now. Can we try this later on today?02:04
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tucoWill be here again tonight! :-)02:04
tucoSee ya people! Have a fun time.02:04
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epimethis it just me or is "good morning / good night / will be back tonight" totally meaningless online?02:05
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Dragnslcr!bluetooth02:05
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:05
_4strOtuco: you dont have 10 minutes ?02:06
tucosorry dude I really have to go. Living in London sucks you know!02:06
_4strOlol02:06
lettuce_Where's the instructions for video card drivers02:06
_4strOtuco: save this in a file : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17783/02:06
epimeth!nvidia02:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:07
Jucato!nvidia02:07
Jucatobah :)02:07
lettuce_thank you02:07
tucoI neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to go man. I will be here tonight :-)02:07
epimethmuahaha02:07
tucoBye for now amigos.02:07
epimethJucato: beat you again!!!02:07
epimeth:-)02:07
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Jucato:P02:07
shad_yhhi02:07
epimethJucato: you mind scrolling up a bit and reading my little problem?02:07
GuHHHtuco is ur card agp?02:07
tucoLaptop is acer 567002:08
shad_yhdoes anybody know how to enable "root login in Gnome Display Mode" from recovery mode?02:08
Jucatoepimeth: try checking if you have enough disk space?02:08
tucowith an X1400 card that much I know right now02:08
tucobye bye bye and bye02:08
epimethJucato: trust me, there's enough space... a whole lotta gigs of enough space02:08
_4strOGuHHH: never mind if it's not, the option will not be used02:08
Jucatoepimeth: in /  I mean02:08
Jucato(the / partition might not have enough space)02:09
shad_yhdoes anybody know how to enable "root login in Gnome Display Mode" from recovery mode?02:09
epimethJucato: I only have /02:09
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Jucatoshad_yh: try asking in #ubuntu for GNOME stuff02:09
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epimethbut I'll check it as an option when I reboot02:09
Jucatoepimeth: ah ok02:09
epimeth$dh -df         right?02:09
epimethdf -dh02:10
Jucatodf -h02:12
sharon__hoi02:12
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_Annehallo02:13
epimethJucato any other ideas?  I'm looking through launchpad atm02:14
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aldinwhats the difference between vmware server  and vmware workstation?02:14
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dusty-workHey guys, does anyone run kubuntu on the HP NX6325 laptop (I have a couple of issues with it) for example... when booting into linux, just BEFORE the kubuntu login screen after the system has booted up, it makes the screen go all fuzzy and funny then shows the login prompt, just wondering if there is a way to get rid of this?02:15
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jim23hi, anyone knows why sha1sum returns 41 characters, when SHA-1 is supposed to have 160-bits ?02:16
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Dragnslcrjim23- 160 bits is 40 characters, but I can't be sure what the extra character is02:17
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DragnslcrMight be a newline or something02:17
jim23i thought a character is 8 bytes?02:17
voicuhi, i have an issue. i was on edgy and upgraded to feisty. when i login onto kde guidance-power-manager.py crashes. how can i stop it from starting or make it work?02:18
jim23sorry 1 byte02:18
jim23or is it utf?02:18
voicui get no output when running the program in a terminal (as it crashes the same way)02:18
dusty-workAlso issues with the wlan card and the laptop hp nx6325, so if anyone has linux working on this laptop successfully please let me know?02:18
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Dragnslcrjim23- oops, sorry. 20 bytes, which is 40 hexadecimal digits02:18
jim23oh i see!02:19
DragnslcrI only get 40, so you might have miscounted the 4102:19
Rubialocathe best Spanish vidente visits his blog are very interesting rituals of love and many things but visitalo http://eltarotdesalem.blogspot.com/02:19
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l_rhello02:20
_4strOsha1sum yourFile | wc -m02:20
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jim23its really 41 chars ;)02:21
l_r1. why doesn't knetwork support wpa-psk?02:21
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l_ri need to setup a wireless card with wpa, not wep ,which is not obsolete and not safe02:22
l_r*it is obsolete02:22
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l_r2. i downloaded the dvd because i thought i would have installed everything from the dvd. on the contrary, it seems the installation includes few packages. how can i add the dvd source from within the installer?02:23
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BluesKajHowdy All02:25
Dragnslcrl_r- I don't think the DVD has any packages on it that you can't get through the regular repositories. I could be mistaken though02:25
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atidemciao!02:26
l_rDragnslcr, i would like to profit by the fact the having a dvd with lot of packages saves me from loading from internet02:26
caris_merekubuntu isn't using my swap space, how can I change this?02:26
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jim23wc reads the \002:28
jim23so it gives 41 ;)02:28
jim23thanks everyone :)02:28
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_4strO;)02:29
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Dragnslcrl_r- I dunno offhand. I got the DVD more or less on a whim. The only drive I have on my old computer is a DVD burner, and the only media I have lying around are blank DVDs02:30
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VSpikeMy 7.04 download won't install grub, and fails at that point of the installation.  I tried removing the current primary drive (I'm installing onto the secondary drive) to see if that was the problem (i.e. existing grub, or didn't like putting the grub onto another HD, etc.) but no change.  Can't find any useful info with Google.  Anyone got any other suggestions?02:36
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VSpikeI also tried grub-install hd0 from the terminal and that also failes02:37
shad_yhdoes anybody know how to create directory in recovery mode in ubuntu?02:37
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dwidmannVSpike: it won't install grub? Does dpkg/apt give you any errors when you try?02:37
dwidmannshad_yh: mkdir02:37
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VSpikeshad_yh: "mkdir blahblah" you mean?02:37
shad_yhyes02:38
VSpikedwidmann: it fails when it tries to install grub on the disk02:38
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shad_yhoh02:38
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shad_yhso i can use it to make directory in home?02:38
newtokubuntuhey can somone tell me how to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2? thanks!02:39
dwidmannVSpike: well then, any errors with that?02:39
VSpikedwidmann: hmm maybe I don't get you :)02:39
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dwidmannVSpike: don't worry, I never got me either02:39
VSpikedwidmann: there's a lot of error chat in the log, there doesn't seem to be one key error message if you know what i mean.  I was just thinking, I really need to save that log :/02:40
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VSpikeSuch a PITA as it takes so long to get to that point and of course the box is unusable during that time02:40
newtokubuntuhow can i install this lib?   "Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed."02:40
newtokubuntuis my error message02:40
l_rit's annoying that feisty still does not let the user setup wireless cards with wpa-psk by the default network manager02:40
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newtokubuntuYea. ANd wireless sucks in fiesty02:41
newtokubuntuIM using it now. BAH02:41
l_ri would have tolerated this if we were back in 6.04. but not these days02:41
newtokubuntu> I still gota find a fix on how to get mine up.02:41
dwidmannVSpike: hard to say what it could be .. one thing you can try, though it may be extreme, would be to rewrite the drives partition table, or something like that02:41
dwidmannmaybe then grub would like it, hard to say02:42
l_rwep is obsolete, wasn't this clear to the developers?02:42
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vecinahow do you make kubuntu automount usb things?02:43
dwidmannvecina: it should already ... does for mine02:43
vecinadwidmann: I have to do it manually :(02:43
newtokubuntudid it work?02:43
VSpikedwidmann: can't really - one of the partitions has needed data, and more than I can back up elsewhere02:44
dwidmannvecina, what version of kubuntu are you using?02:44
vecinadwidmann: Feisty, new install02:44
newtokubuntuanyone know how to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?02:44
dwidmannVSpike: Yeah, I know what you mean .. If I were to need to back up my LVM or wipe it for some reason or another I'd be SOL02:44
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vecinaI used to run edgy and it automounted... is it because my HD is a sata and is being read as sda?02:46
VSpikenewtokubuntu: Isn't libstdc++2.10 incredibly old?02:46
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newtokubuntuim trying to install nxserver/client02:47
VSpikenewtokubuntu:  Oh no it's there... just do "aptitude search stdc++"02:47
VSpikesudo aptitude install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.202:47
newtokubuntuu rock:)02:47
VSpikeaw thx02:48
dwidmannvecina: sata is supposed to be sda02:49
vecinadwidmann: Well thats good to know. then i wonder why my external HD isnt mounting on its own...02:49
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vecinaId expect its two partitions to mount as sda3 and sda402:49
dwidmannis it?02:49
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dwidmannif there's somewhere you can change that, do so ... perhaps make it sdb3/4 and see if it works then (It very well may not though, hard to say)02:50
ubuntu&join ubuntu02:50
Otrayovecina, run fdisk /dev/sda to check your partitions02:50
ubuntu&join #ubuntu02:50
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vecina"Unable to open /dev/sda"02:51
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vecina*confused*02:52
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dwidmannvecina, use sudo02:53
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kinpI need help02:53
kinpHow do I reset X??02:53
dwidmannkinp: we get that a lot in here :P02:53
dwidmannkinp: logout, there's a restart x option in kdm02:54
vecinadwidmann: not complaining02:54
kinpI can't enter kdm.02:54
kinpX is broke02:54
dwidmannah02:54
dwidmannyou mean reconfigure x then?02:54
dwidmannsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh02:54
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Jucato!xconfig02:55
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes02:55
blenheim!FixRes02:56
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:56
kinpHow do I restars from terminal??02:56
blenheimsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart02:57
dwidmannkinp: restart the whole system? sudo reboot02:57
VSpikekinp: sudo shutdown -r now02:57
VSpikelotsa ways :)02:57
kinpOnly need one.02:57
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dusty-workDoes anyone here run linux on the laptop: HP Compaq NX6325 ?02:58
dwidmannVSpike: sudo reboot is just a shortcut to shutdown -r now if I remember right02:58
kinpok02:58
kinpbut sudo reboot worx.02:58
dwidmanncertainly does02:59
kinpThanks X worx again.02:59
dwidmannno problem02:59
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kinpIs it any network managers (wireless) that is better than knetworkmanager?03:00
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thomaxhi, does anyone over here knows a good aplication to resize ogg/theora video files?03:01
dwidmannthomax: oggenc? transcode? sound-konverter?03:01
dwidmannwait, I missed the theora part03:02
dwidmanntranscode will do though03:02
thomaxI need something more easy than transcode03:02
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dwidmanncomplicated as it may be03:02
thomax:)03:02
thomaxthats the problem :p03:02
thomaxthere must be an easyer way03:02
dwidmannHmm, I wonder if kmencoder can do it03:03
thomaxsomeone knows a good frond end03:03
thomaxi'll try kmencoder03:03
dwidmannoddly enough, I don't see it in the feisty repo03:03
dwidmann!info kmencoder edgy03:03
ubotuPackage kmencoder does not exist in edgy03:03
dwidmannHmmm, maybe it wasn't in the repos to begin with03:03
thomaxi'll try kde-apps03:04
dwidmannit's definitely on th ere03:04
BluesKajthomax , you can try tovid, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Metagui03:04
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thomaxok03:05
thomaxthanx for the info y'all03:05
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jbkjbquestion please: how does one unistall a wine installed app?03:08
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jbkjbuninstall..03:08
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thomaxusing the windows uninstallation wizzard thruogh wine03:08
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jbkjbok so how is that envoked03:09
newtokubuntuanyone know how hard it is to get beryl working with fiesty?03:09
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thomaxIf you go into your kmenu you have a wine menu, and normally with every app you have an uninstall wizzard delivered03:10
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KubuntuHow do I get the nvida driver without braeking x??03:10
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creadorcreativoKubuntu: use envy: http://tinyurl.com/2tgu4n03:12
jbkjbok but i cant see/find the wine menu - so no unistall app03:12
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KubuntuWhat is envy??03:12
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KubuntuSudo apt-get wine03:15
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RedShifthey all, kubuntu ships with a nice KDE theme, where can I get to use it in another distro?03:16
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KubuntuEnvy wont run, how else can I install the NVIDA drivers (without the risk of breaking x)?03:18
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jbkjbSudo apt-get wine = E: Invalid operation wine03:21
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SniperBeamerapt-get install wine03:22
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_4strOjbkjb: sudo apt-get install wine03:22
Tm_TTm_Konvi: mooh03:23
dwidmannKubuntu: use  the nvidia-glx (or nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy), then run sudo nvidia-xconfig03:23
jbkjbok moment - i'm trying it03:24
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KubuntuHow do I know witch one??03:26
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Tm_TKubuntu: what version of nvidia you have?03:27
dwidmannKubuntu: depends on what model of nvidia card you have, if it's a geforce 4 or older use nvidia-glx, if it's newer use nvidia-glx-new, if it's quite a bit older still, use the legacy03:27
jbkjbok i have installed it (again) so should tehr be a wine icon in kmenu : sudo apt-get install wine03:27
jbkjbthere03:27
KubuntuNVIDA GEForce fx 550003:27
KubuntuWitch one?03:28
RedShiftKubuntu: those work with the latest nvidia drivers03:28
KubuntuNVIDA GEForce FX 5500, witch one should I use?03:28
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dwidmannKubuntu: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig03:28
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simouxhi03:29
simouxdeutsch03:29
dwidmannsimoux: hi03:29
simouxi habe a pb03:29
simouxwintv-hvr-1300 unter kubuntu03:30
RedShiftsimoux: a pb? a point blank? a punk buster? a prolific bi-fetishist?03:31
simouxproblem03:31
dwidmannRedShift: pb = problem ... I'm betting03:31
Kubuntusudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig wont break x??03:31
dwidmannKubuntu: well, it *shouldn't* break x03:32
KubuntuAnd if it does what is the command to fix it?03:32
dwidmannKubuntu, if it does, restore the backed up /etc/xorg.conf03:32
KubuntuTo recongiguer x?03:32
Kubuntuok03:32
dwidmannoops03:32
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dwidmannmeant to say /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...... too late to mention that now03:33
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Otrayoeasiest way to fix a broken x is to type random stuff all over the conf file and then restart the server03:33
simouxnvidia-glx.new include nvidia-xcong and nvidia-settings03:34
KubuntuI don't think it worked, xdidn't break!03:34
Otrayoit will then (try) fix it for you03:34
dwidmannsimoux: yes, it does03:34
dwidmannKubuntu: when starting X, did you see the nvidia logo?03:34
KubuntuYes03:34
dwidmannthen it worked03:34
KubuntuBut before it has always broke x.03:34
simouxwhat is your pb03:34
dwidmannKubuntu: well, don't complain about things working :P03:35
Otrayoanyone successfully upgraded to feisty using the update tool?03:35
simouxi had just 1024x78003:35
KubuntuIt worx in games tooo.03:35
KubuntuI have.03:35
KubuntuBut the sound still sounds like shit.03:35
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dwidmannI did it during its earlier stages with quite a bit of failure, but it's been updated quite a bit since the03:35
dwidmann*n03:35
simouxman add  mit editor 1280x102403:35
dwidmannKubuntu: the sound is at the mercy of the sound card drivers, the mixer settings, the sound card, and the speakers03:36
OtrayoKubuntu: I keep getting errors with the security mirrors03:36
dwidmann(and not the graphics card)03:36
simouxhow can i get my wintv working ubter kubuntu03:37
simouxtv carte03:37
KubuntuBut I do not use my sound car (usb speakers), I can't mute them, how can I decide withc thingi should control sound?03:37
dusty-workHey guys I Have a real strange issue with kubuntu on my laptop.  When I restart the laptop (either command console -> reboot command OR via the k menu and restart) when it powers back up, it checks the disks as if it has been hard rebooted - the wrong way - and when i go back into x and start a browser it says restore session or start new one (so its like the computer is being shut off badly) any ideas why the laptop is a hp03:37
dusty-workcompaq nx6325?03:37
KubuntuHow do you write red?03:38
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Daisuke_Idor-e-d03:38
Daisuke_Idovery simple03:38
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Kubuntur-e-d Hello03:38
Daisuke_Idoin fact, you already did it03:39
Kubuntudidn't work03:39
Daisuke_Idooi03:39
cy_`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17799/ .. i get that error when using the "vesa" driver on the feisty kubuntu release.. but it gives me that error.. what might be wrong ?03:39
Daisuke_Idooh, red messages03:39
Daisuke_Idoare they messages with your nick in them>?03:39
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dusty-workHey guys I Have a real strange issue with kubuntu on my laptop.  When I restart the laptop (either command console -> reboot command OR via the k menu and restart) when it powers back up, it checks the disks as if it has been hard rebooted - the wrong way - and when i go back into x and start a browser it says restore session or start new one (so its like the computer is being shut off badly) any ideas why the laptop is a hp03:42
dusty-workcompaq nx6325?03:42
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kalorinwell, the laptop is a hp because they made it03:44
kalorin;)03:44
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kalorinhaven't tried kubuntu on a laptop though03:45
Otrayoi've got kubuntu on my laptop03:45
Otrayoits a thinkpad though, so it works like a charm03:45
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icecruncheri need a small fast music player. any suggestions?03:46
_4strOxmms03:46
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dwidmannicecruncher: music12303:48
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dwidmannor was it 321?03:48
kalorin213?03:48
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kalorin:)03:48
dwidmannmy first thought was right03:48
kalorin<--- helpful03:48
_4strOdwidmann: mpeg123 i think03:48
dwidmann_4strO: music123 will play both mp3 and ogg and perhaps others03:49
kalorinI just use VLC03:49
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_4strOdidn't know it were an music123 appliocation03:49
dwidmannkalorin: and I use amarok ... but hey, the guy said small & light03:49
kalorinit's fast enough and handles just about anything you throw at it03:49
kalorinsure03:49
kalorinamarok seems to be nice enough03:50
Otrayoi'd go with xmms03:50
dwidmanna shell app seems to be as light as you can go usually03:50
icecrunchersweet thanks03:50
kalorinI let it catalog my stuff and it made a big mess03:50
dwidmannkalorin: what kind?03:51
dwidmann(of mess)03:51
kalorinoh just the tagging and stuff03:51
kalorinhad things all over03:51
dwidmannodd, when was this?03:51
kalorinthe music wasn't all consistently tagged because some of it was quite old03:51
dwidmannah03:51
kalorinit did what it could well enough I guess03:52
dwidmannso it didn't like idv2 tags or something like that?03:52
dwidmannbe right back03:53
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kalorinsomething odd03:54
kalorinjust ended up with a lot of stuff filed oddly03:54
dwidmannoh no, I think the caffeine is wearing off :\03:54
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Greeneryhow do i remove those wine apps like wine notepad regedit and all?03:55
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boyeehi,all03:57
ubuntukonqueror is broken i keep getting this error: An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=feisty&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:03:57
boyeeHow to change the grub picture at the ubuntu's booting?03:58
ubuntuI am chatting with the cd right now so it is not the internet connection03:58
Otrayoubuntu: maybe your proxy settings?03:58
ubuntudon't need proxy03:58
Jucato!grubsplash03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grubsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
Jucatobah03:59
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ubuntuweird thing is i installed feisty via adept on my desktop and it is running fine03:59
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Jucatoboyee: take a look into the packages grub-splashimages and kubuntu-grub-splashimages04:00
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Jucatoboyee: and this one: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/04:00
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tony__does anyone know a way to decrease konqueror's thumbnail quality?04:06
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linexHi04:14
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linexMy HD is serial ata. How do I check if the dma is on ? Do I use hdparm also ?04:14
ubuntuI am sorry but what do you mean grub splash image.  Is this the screen that shows the kernels or are you talking about the boot splash?04:15
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Jucatoubuntu: grubsplash = image that you see with the GRUB menu04:15
ubuntulinex> sudo kate hdparm.conf04:16
Jucatobootsplash = the (usually animated) image you see when you boot into the kernel04:16
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ubuntulinex> then scroll down to the examples and find the one that says /dev/hda blah blah and change it to sda(#) and uncomment all the lines pertaining to that drive.04:18
kalorinbah04:18
kalorinremove splash from the boot options and boot like a real man04:18
kalorin;)04:18
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Jucatoyou're talking about bootsplash, not grub splash04:18
ubuntu< jucato> Ah I thought so, sorry don't know04:18
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linexthanks ubuntu04:19
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ubuntulinex>  http://getoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_use_hdparm_to_improve_ide_device_performanc04:21
ubuntuI have sata also this link helped alot04:21
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blenheimShit04:22
blenheimphone broken...04:22
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blenheimScreen cracked...04:23
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ubuntu<linex> also check transfer mode04:23
linexthanks for the link04:23
linexyou miss an n but I know what you mean04:24
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boyeehi,all04:26
mueslixwhere is my jriddell?04:26
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Riddellmueslix: hmm?04:27
mueslixRiddell: ah, you lost the j? :)04:27
RiddellI never had one04:27
boyeeI install the nvidia driver for my VGA successfully,But I must change the resolution every time when I login and set it to 1280x800.How to fix this?04:27
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boyeehelp me,Please!04:28
mueslixRiddell: heh, sorry. i've been looking for you a couple of days, just under the wrong name i recon :)04:28
dwidmannboyee: try using the nvidia-settings utility, be sure to click "save x config" before exiting04:28
dwidmannoh, and you'll need to be running it with kdesu04:28
mueslixRiddell: i noticed the kolab packages in feisty are broken04:28
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mueslixRiddell: they still depend on php4, which doesn't exist anymore.04:28
boyeeI have save it! but it don't works!04:28
kalorinboyee remember that you're not root or sudo'ing the nvidia config so you have to save the new config someplace else then manually replace it04:29
mueslixRiddell: a bug report exists, i'm just wondering if you know anything about it, if someone's taking care of it or if help is needed04:29
dominik_hello world !!!04:29
kalorinthat's the safer way as far as I'm concerned04:29
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dwidmannkalorin: I don't see anything "unsafe" about doing it directly, it makes a backup afterall04:30
kalorin<--- untrusting :)04:30
seanDoes anybody know if there is a way to get firefox to work with kde wallet?04:30
kalorinand I usually name my backups of the xorg file for what was or wasn't working when I did it04:30
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dominik_hello guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me. Am trying to update my system using the apt-get command, but nothing happens...it just hangs without downloading any updates04:31
dwidmannkalorin: me too actually ... I have xorg.conf.vesa and xorg.conf.nvidia, and well, that's about it04:31
seanare you connected to your network?04:31
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dominik_here is the messge that am getting: 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to wxpython.wxcommunity.com04:33
seanbut you don't connect?04:33
dominik_no, it just hangs there or ages04:33
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dominik_no, it just hangs there for ages04:34
Riddellmueslix: I don't know of anyone in ubuntu who touches the kolab packages, it's mostly too late for changing stuff in feisty04:34
seandid it ever work?04:34
seanthe network that is.04:34
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Hobbseesean: dont know of one04:35
dominik_yes, it use to update itself, when I come to the computer, I see the update icon on the system tray informing me of new updates...04:35
seanthanks for the info Hobbsee04:35
dominik_...but for some reason, it has stopped04:35
dominik_so, that's why I wanted to update it manually04:36
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seanwell, not quite sure what is wrong, but you can use the alternate install cd and go into recovery mode04:36
seanthat should get your drivers working so you can re-install your network stuff again04:37
seanit will pop you into a terminal that will give you access to apt-get or even aptitude if you want04:37
dominik_thanks sean04:38
seanno prob04:38
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dominik_hey sean, do i have to put the CD in the computer and reboot or what?04:38
seanyeah04:39
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seanit needs to be an iso image on the cd to work though04:39
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dominik_hmm, am not sure if this one is an ISO image though, it's one of those free CDs I ordered from Ubuntu company04:41
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Hobbseedominik_: it'll be an iso, then.04:42
dominik_cool Hobbsee04:42
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dominik_let me run the CD and let you guys know if it works..04:43
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mueslixRiddell: how come too late for feisty? someone probably just needs to fix the depandancies of the package, i reckon? that'd surely be worth it, wouldn't it?04:49
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Riddellmueslix: sure, if someone is willing to do the patch and go through the stable release updates process https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates04:50
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mueslixRiddell: thanks, i'll have a look04:51
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binaryflowI've been running feisty fawn beta on a workstation at home.  Now that the full release is here do I need to upgrade?  It looks like the beta is using the same sources.list that the full release is.04:54
binaryflowAm I ok or do I need to do anything?04:54
crimsunyou will need to upgrade04:54
Shiftyyep04:54
binaryflowOk.04:55
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binaryflowShould I use the cd or updated sources.list manually?04:55
binaryflowupdate04:55
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Shiftyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28659904:55
Jucatobinaryflow: just dist-upgrade normally04:55
Jucatonothing to change.04:56
binaryflowOk, thanks.04:56
ShiftyDoes anyone know how to tell what name your Serial Port is given (ie; ttyS0, etc)?04:56
ShiftyI've got to connect to some legacy storage arrays04:56
Shiftyand they of course use the serial port for managment04:57
newtokubuntuanyone gotten beryl working on fiesty?04:57
ShiftyI've gotten it to work, but it crashes often04:57
newtokubuntureally?04:57
newtokubuntubooooo04:57
ShiftyFairly unstable at this point, for me anyway.04:57
newtokubuntuyea im debating on trying it04:58
ShiftyYeah, it looks nice when it works04:58
SkyblastAtWorksame here pretty much04:58
newtokubuntuMy edgy install had it working great04:58
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newtokubuntuNever crashed once i got it working with ALGIX04:58
SkyblastAtWorkI don't know why they call 0.2.0 "stable"04:58
Shiftygive it a shot. Just make sure you specifiy in the Beryl manager KDE as the falback window manager04:58
SkyblastAtWorkI've tried it in several different configurations... It's not stable. At all.04:58
newtokubuntuyea04:59
newtokubuntuif u dont specifiy that04:59
newtokubuntuyour effed basicly04:59
mueslixSkyblastAtWork: stable doesn't refer to being completely stable and unbreakable04:59
mueslixSkyblastAtWork: it's just not a development04:59
mueslix-release04:59
Shiftywell you aren't effed, but you'll have to reboot.04:59
newtokubuntui know04:59
newtokubuntuthats what i mean.04:59
Shiftyha, right.05:00
newtokubuntuI dont like rebootng05:00
newtokubuntuheh05:00
SkyblastAtWorkIt seems to work best with nvidia cards aiglx.. but even then.. pretty flaky if you make it mad05:00
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newtokubuntualgix is awsome. I saw like 90x improvment over glx05:00
ShiftyI was also told NOT to use the xorg ATI drivers if you have an ATI card.05:00
SkyblastAtWorkDoesn't really matter to me though. I prefer a snappy desktop above all else. I just keep beryl on for all my lamer friends who think Linux is "like DOS or something" hehe05:01
ShiftyYeah I had a co-worker ask "why I was using that horrible O/S"05:02
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ShiftyI wasn't sure where to start with him on that one, since most of the things I would explain were WAY over his head05:03
SkyblastAtWorkhehe05:03
SkyblastAtWorkI'm really pragmatic about it. Most people don't care enough to listen. If that binary blob from Redmond works for them, go for it.05:03
newtokubuntui like the cool burn effects thats it :)05:03
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SkyblastAtWorkIf that overpriced ultra proprietary blob in a pretty box from California works for them, just as good. Doesn't hurt me any.05:04
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andreas_hi05:04
ShiftyI just wanted something stable, powerful, and customizable05:04
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andreas_speak german?05:04
ShiftySorry I don't speak german.05:04
SkyblastAtWork!de05:04
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:04
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andreas_okay05:04
andreas_thx05:05
andreas_#ubuntu05:05
andreas_#ubuntu-de05:05
ShiftyI should learn though, I'm going over ther in july!05:05
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mueslixShifty: you won't need it05:05
ShiftyOh ok.05:05
mueslixShifty: most people will be able to understand you just fine05:06
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ShiftyI was told by my friend in the UK that the beer fest we're going to, hardly anyone speaks english.05:06
ShiftyCool.05:06
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mueslixShifty: heh, well... beer fests... most people don't speak any language there05:06
mueslixbeer is the language05:06
Shiftyfantastic05:06
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Tm_Tandreas_: /join #kubuntu-de ;)05:07
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andreas_thx ^05:07
mueslixShifty: which festival you're going to?05:07
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andreas_my first time in irc ^05:07
gemidjykubuntu.org down ?05:07
andreas_hi05:08
bobstroandreas_: run away!05:08
andreas_speak german?05:08
bobstroich? ein bischen.05:08
Shiftymy friend calls it the Weisenfest?05:08
ShiftyIt starts the weekend of July 4th I believe05:08
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ShiftyI want to say this is the website  he sent me  http://www.waldundwiesenfest.at/05:10
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ubuntuHow do I decide the default browser??05:13
thomaxin kcontrol05:14
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_4strOubuntu > system settings / default application05:14
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JucatoK Menu -> System Settings05:15
YorokobiubuntuHo, 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser' also works.05:15
ubuntuHoCan I make the loin like in Win xp?05:15
bobstroloin?05:15
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ShiftyI think he means "login05:16
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CrazyLazyCan I make the login look like in win xp?05:16
ShiftySystem Settings>splash screen05:16
ShiftyChoose the Redmond option.05:16
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CrazyLazyWould I then not have to write my login name?05:17
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ShiftyOh, you mean login automatically05:17
Shiftywith no username and password05:17
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: you areound?05:18
ShiftySystem Settings>Advanced Tab> Session Manager05:18
ShiftyI believe05:18
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CrazyLazyNo, no username (you click your username), but still have to write the password.05:18
ShiftySorry, Login Manager05:18
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nosrednaekimanybody else have an ati card>05:19
ShiftyI do05:19
Shiftyx300 on my laptop05:19
nosrednaekimany problem with it in fiesty?05:19
Shiftynone05:19
nosrednaekimare you using the fglrx driver?05:19
nosrednaekimthat was automatically installed?05:20
Shiftyno05:20
nosrednaekimah...ok05:20
ShiftyThat was no recommended if you want to use beryl05:20
nosrednaekimATI and Fiesty have this problem with loggin out05:20
ShiftyWhat's going on?05:20
nosrednaekimShifty: oh yeah...the x300 has good OSS driver support05:20
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nosrednaekimwhat that should be is "fglrx and fiesty have log out problems"05:21
nosrednaekimwhen you try to log out, the x server lock, and freezes the computer05:21
nosrednaekim* locks05:21
CrazyLazyFeisty do have logout problems.05:21
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nosrednaekimbut it works fine with the OS driver (I want 3d tho..)05:22
nosrednaekimand my chip isn't supported by the OSS drivers05:22
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ShiftyI've used beryl without the X.org fglrx drivers.05:23
nosrednaekimthats why I wanted BluesKaj, he was having the same problems.05:23
pichi_hello to all05:23
Shiftyah ok05:23
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nosrednaekimShifty: yeah... but your card is supported by open source drivers05:23
nosrednaekimhello pichi_05:23
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BluesKajsorry guys , I was away doing some chores05:24
nosrednaekimyo BluesKaj, i'v been doing some more testing...05:24
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nosrednaekimI can now log out and log back in after doing a ctrl+alt+bckspce, but when I do log back in, anything having to do with 3d accel crashes the computer05:25
ShiftyRight, looks like I'm not much help, sorry.05:25
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nosrednaekimShifty: thanks anyway05:25
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: this is a definate bug, i'm going to report it.05:26
Shiftysure thing. Hopefully you can get it worked out.05:26
BluesKajwell, the proprietary driver is the one that does DRI , but not beryl...there is a way to have both,but I can't recall the setup or the tutorial to make it work05:26
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ShiftyI switched from Vista to Kubuntu a week ago on my work laptop here. So far no real complaints05:27
nosrednaekimShifty: is it noticably faster?05:27
BluesKajgonna do some searching ...BB in 505:27
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_4str1BluesKaj: you have to go on XGL05:27
ShiftyOh yeah. Performance is stellar for me in Kubuntu.05:27
ShiftyThat's why I switched, really. I didn't want XP, and Vista was a resource hog.05:28
MotorCityMadMan!kde05:29
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:29
nosrednaekimShifty: are you doing x86_64?05:29
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_4str105:30
_4str1you can have less although linux, but it is more expensive05:30
_4str1^^05:30
ShiftyNo, it's a Dell D810 laptop with a 1.7Ghz Pentium M and 1gb RAM05:30
nosrednaekimah.. ok05:31
nosrednaekimand it came with vista? ouch.. that probably ran slow05:31
ShiftyNo, we had it as part of an MSDN05:31
Shiftyso I put it on and it ran ok.05:32
Shiftybut, for whatever reason it just sucked down the RAM and was paging too much.05:32
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VSpikedwidmann: If you're still here, the error log is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17823/05:32
ShiftyThe visuals and small improvements alone weren't enough to keep it on there.05:32
VSpikeTo anyone else that can help, that's Kubuntu 7.04 failing to install at the point where it tries to set up grub05:33
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM05:33
VSpikeAny help much appreciated05:33
BluesKajnosrednaekim: latest radeon linux driverhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html05:34
BluesKajoops http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html05:34
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boyeeCan we install adobereader using the apt-get?05:34
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boyeeCan we install adobereader using the apt-get?05:34
dasnipaboyee: yeah... its in the mediabuntu repo05:34
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MotorCityMadMan!akregator05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about akregator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
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boyeesudo apt-get install adobereader,I get none.05:35
CaseyOmahIs there a way to write a script (sh or otherwise) that will restart KTorrent on crash?05:35
MotorCityMadMan!rss05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
dasnipaboyee: you dont have the mediabuntu repo... google it05:35
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: what was on there?05:35
dasnipaboyee: plus i dont know that the pacakge is called adobe reader do apt-cache search adobe reader05:36
Shiftyboyee, Can download the Adobe Reader from the Adobe website. What's how I got it05:36
ShiftyThat's how I got it05:36
_4str1!codecs | boyee05:36
ubotuboyee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:36
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CaseyOmahWin2fs is always mounting my ext3 partitions in ro mode.05:37
CrazyLazyany good free FPS for Linux?05:37
CaseyOmahI'm pretty sure the journal is empty.05:37
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dwidmannsomeone called ..... hmmm, VSpike?05:39
VSpikedwidmann: si, barone05:39
CrazyLazyIs there any FPS for linux?05:39
cucodoom105:39
cucodoom205:39
_4strOCrazyLazy: cube05:39
cuco... doom3 :)05:39
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CrazyLazyAre they free?05:39
VSpikedwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17823/05:39
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cucoyes05:39
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_4strOCrazyLazy: cube is05:39
CaseyOmahcuco: There's linux ports for doom1/2/3?05:40
cucoapt-get install05:40
_4strOCrazyLazy: and you have a second stage05:40
BluesKajnosrednaekim: it's the latest Radeo Linux proprietary driver05:40
BluesKajRadeon05:40
cucodoom3 is not gpl yet. i assume soon it will05:40
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_4strOCrazyLazy: sudo apy-get install openarena05:40
dwidmannVSpike: looks like you've definitely uncovered a bug, take that same error output and create a bug report on http://launchpad.net05:40
CrazyLazysudo: apy-get: command not found05:40
CrazyLazysudo: apy-get: command not found05:40
CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: apt-get05:41
cucoi am running the livecd of 7.04, i assume that by running it intel wide screen should be supported out of the box. correct?05:41
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_4strOCrazyLazy: know i understand your nickname :p05:42
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VSpikedwidmann: thx .. will do.  Seriously annoying!05:44
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: sorry, I tried some stuff...05:44
VSpikeI'm wondering if I manage to install grub by hand, whether the system set-up will be complete05:44
CrazyLazyI want people to do all the hard work for me, free, like Linux.05:44
VSpikeI'd guess installing grub must be one of the last things it does, but what else might I miss out?05:44
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CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: Linux is freeware, support is not encluded in most freeware packages, so hard work is relocated to the user. Not support.05:45
nosrednaeki1VSpike: you might want to try the alternate installer, especcially if you have RAID or complicated HD arrangements05:45
CrazyLazy!past05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
CrazyLazy!paste05:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:45
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: by applying that fix from the gentoo wiki, I can log out05:46
VSpikenosrednaeki: It's probably worth a go, although my system is very boring.  I even removed my primary PATA disk so it was just a single SATA drive on an NF4 board.05:46
CrazyLazyWhy does the Konsole say this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17828/??05:46
CrazyLazyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17828/05:46
nosrednaeki1but glx stuff is still all messed up05:46
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nosrednaeki1VSpike: hmm..05:47
CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: Read line 51.05:47
BluesKajnosrednaeki , you mean the linux 3finger salute ? :)05:48
nosrednaeki1yeah.. try that before trying to install manully05:48
CrazyLazyWhy would I remove them??05:48
nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: huh?05:48
CaseyOmahThey are unreferenced.05:48
CrazyLazyBut many of them is important.05:48
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CrazyLazyLike gimp-data, I like gimp. Then I shouldn't remove it.05:49
CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: Are you sure you don't have upgraded packages for them?05:49
CrazyLazyOr??05:49
BluesKajnosrednaeki ctrl,alt,backspace05:49
CrazyLazyNo I'm not sure.05:49
CrazyLazyHow can I check?05:50
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: haha no.... I mean this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM05:51
CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: I'm basically a newbie, so I don't know.05:51
nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23905:51
CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: But I've found that apt-get hasn't removed things from my active apps before.05:52
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VSpikeTo install grub by hand in the LiveCD, would I want to do something like: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/target /dev/hda05:52
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: just out of curiosity, do you have an AMD system?05:53
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CaseyOmahCrazyLazy: What I'd do is remember the pastebin URL and run the autoremove, if things break, look at the pastebin and reinstall.05:53
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BluesKajyes nosrednaeki,  AMD64 Compaq Presario venice 3200+ CPU , but just have the onboard graphics05:55
nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: a Xpress 200m?05:55
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nosrednaeki1same here, cept a acer 5050, turion x2, Xpress 110005:56
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BluesKajno the Radeon RS480/200g05:56
nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: same thing... RS480 is the graphics chip05:56
BluesKajxpress200G05:57
nosrednaeki1seems that this only affects AMD computers http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23905:57
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nosrednaeki1yeah... the Xpress1100 is just a xpress200 with support for X2's05:58
KubuntuCan I install google earth by using sudo apt.get install?05:58
nosrednaeki1Kubuntu: I don't think so05:58
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nosrednaeki1unless you find a repository05:58
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BluesKajno, you have to enable backports ...i think05:58
nosrednaeki1GOOGLE has ubuntu packages though05:58
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BluesKajor DL it from the site05:58
BluesKajyeah05:59
BluesKajok , BRB05:59
nosrednaeki1Any luck.05:59
nosrednaeki1BluesKaj:05:59
KubuntuHow do I install bin files?06:00
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CaseyOmahKubuntu: ./filename.bin from a console.06:00
VSpikeKubuntu: normally "chmod 755 something.bin && ./something.bin"06:00
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VSpikewhere does grub.conf normally hang out?06:01
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ale84I all06:01
CaseyOmahVSpike: /boot/grub/ ... I think.06:01
nosrednaeki1VSpike: /boot/grub/grub.conf06:01
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ale84sorry I can't install kbuntu , cause it doesn't reconize my sata hdd what I can do ?? in advance thanks06:02
CaseyOmahale84: Doesn't recognize on LiveCd?06:02
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ale84even  while is booting from live cd it take a log time ... then when I try to install doesn't reconize my hhd06:03
ale84it say that is impossble to install no hhd avaible06:03
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UKESN|Javaxits impossible to install from livecd for me06:03
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dromer!burn06:03
UKESN|Javaxeven though ive got 1024 mb RAM06:03
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto06:03
UKESN|Javaxso i just installed dapper06:04
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UKESN|Javaxupdated to edgy, then updated to feisty06:04
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UKESN|Javaxand boom hey presto06:04
CaseyOmahUKESN|Javax: Upgrade path.06:04
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nosrednaeki1BluesKaj: open GL works on first login.06:05
ale84CaseyOmah I have a sony vaio vgn a517b, any chace ??06:05
nosrednaeki1I'm going to go log  out and then back in... BRB06:06
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CaseyOmahale84: I've never had an issue installing from any of the LiveCDs, UKESN|Javax may have an idea that would work for you.06:06
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kalorinCaseyOmah: you should give it a try with an ATI video card ;)06:06
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CaseyOmahkalorin: I'm running nv, I think...06:07
CaseyOmahI'd have to look, been a while since I played with my hardware. lol06:07
animimotusI have crash 4 times since I installed Feisty Kubuntu (a new install). Please, someone can take a look to my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17838/ and my syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17833/  ?06:08
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: everything is working!!06:08
nosrednaekimand i'm sure of it this time!06:08
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CaseyOmahnosrednaekim: Congrats.06:09
ale84I don't understand if linux doesn't support my laptop myabe is better that I give up ....06:09
nosrednaekimale84: you could always try another distro06:09
CaseyOmahale84: There are issues with some installers, it's not that the OS doesn't support the hardware.06:10
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ale84nosrednaekim I tried net bsd debian ubuntu kbuntu so far06:10
SmL9is it possible to suspend a live session?06:10
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Squier_Salut06:10
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nosrednaekimCaseyOmah: thank you... now I just have to wait for BluesKaj to come back so I can tell him the solution06:10
ubuntu_Can anyone tell me about a program like GameMaker for linux?06:10
nosrednaekimale84: try an RPM based distro, like suse06:11
nosrednaekimSmL9: ussually not06:11
CaseyOmahubuntu_: There's one for writing Sierra-style games, just check out the repos.06:11
ubuntu_What is its name?06:12
ale84nosrednaekim, I can't uderstand why I should try another distro once again06:12
CaseyOmahubuntu_: I'd have to look, give me a sec...06:12
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ubuntu_ok06:13
SmL9nosrednaekim: damn. when I try to suspend my live session it locks the session and i can't get back in, the password doesn't work anymore06:13
ale84why rpm I had the same problem with netbsd seems to be somethig wrong with my hhd06:13
nosrednaekimale84: yeah,well, did you try googleing to see if anyone else got linux running on that model?06:13
nosrednaekimSmL9: oh it does suspend?06:13
nosrednaekimwell ehre's how to fix the passwrod problem06:13
ale84nosrednaekim yes I tried already and only one person06:13
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nosrednaekimale84: and did it work for them?06:14
ale84write in a forum and no one repleid back him06:14
CaseyOmahubuntu_: agistudio.06:14
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nosrednaekimale84: ah... oh... umm..maybe it doesn't work then..06:14
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CaseyOmahubuntu_: nagi appears to be the player.06:14
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ale84nice .. =)06:14
nosrednaekimsorry.06:14
Ashexso, has anyone been crazy enough to try upgrading from dapper to feisty?06:14
nosrednaekimAshex: thats more like saying... who has been crazy enough to go without edgy for 6 months..06:15
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nosrednaekim;)06:15
CaseyOmahAshex: You aren't supposed to upgrade skipping steps, but someone has upgraded Dapper/Edgy/Feisty I've seen mentioned06:15
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: come in pls...06:16
nosrednaekimOH well... he's not here... bye all..06:16
BluesKajAshex:  i like the way you loaded that question , Feisty seems fine so far , just the digital out on my soundcard is not working but otherwise , no probs06:16
CaseyOmahnosrednaekim: I'll let him know if he shows up.06:17
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ahh! you are here...06:17
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nosrednaekimthsi is what you do BluesKaj06:17
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM06:17
nosrednaekimit worked for me06:17
BluesKajyeah nosrednaekim, just setting up google earth06:17
boyeeany good game in ubuntu???06:17
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boyee any good game in ubuntu???06:17
CaseyOmahboyee: Sudoku06:17
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: so did you fix your log out problem?06:18
BluesKajboyee:  get an xbox06:18
Timsenhi, would it be better to install the dapper LTS server version on a dual quad core board or should it be better to use feisty?06:18
nosrednaekimboyee: tremulous06:18
Tm_Tboyee: no need to repeat06:18
nosrednaekimfiesty...06:18
boyeemoto06:18
boyee??06:18
BluesKajseems ok nosrednaekim , but I'll check in a few mins06:18
SmL9nosrednaekim: Well the screen goes blank but the hd and other stuff stays on. if I move the mouse the screen comes back on06:18
nosrednaekimSmL9: ahh... so suspend really doesn't work..06:18
nosrednaekimit has to do with ramdisks and livecd.. sus[pending would be awfully messy06:19
nosrednaekimBye all..06:19
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SmL9nosrednaekim: seems not...06:19
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SmL9nosrednaekim: oh well, bye then06:20
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Tm_TTimsen: for desktop use, I'd recommend Feisty06:22
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snaphow come kbuntu wants to launch gimp everytime i start a kde session?06:22
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Timsenno should be pure server06:22
Tm_TTimsen: ok, then, need long time support?06:23
Timsenin my opinion the lts version of ubuntu is more stable, but it depends on the things you want to run on it @ Tm_T06:24
Tm_Tyes06:24
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Timsenbut i ask the question with view on the hardware support06:24
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tuco_Hey 4stro :-)06:25
Tm_TTimsen: newer has broader support06:25
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_4strOyop tuco_06:25
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tuco_I am back sir06:25
_4strOyes did you save the file i gave you ?06:26
tuco_so we can continue with Beryl if you don't mind :-)06:26
tuco_Nah sorry06:26
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kristjan_into what package does "kinfocenter" belong to?06:27
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myteI've got a problem with beryl on Kubuntu Feisty KDE. I have succesfully installed drivers for my ATI Radeon 1100 card,  I tried fgl_glxgears on terminal and it shows 3d cobe with gears rolling fine on each side. I've tried to find solution to my broblem from ubuntu, kubuntu and beryl forums but i still don't get it. Beryl doesn't start and it says it's becaus there's no composite extensions, but when I enable composite extensions, th06:27
myteglxgears stop working (assuming my drivers stop working) DOes anyone know what I shouls so now? tia06:27
tuco_We need to start from scratch mate06:27
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_4strOtuco_: ok06:28
tuco_Thank you06:28
LjL!find kinfocenter | kristjan_06:28
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LjLkristjan_: (you can also just type "dpkg -S kinfocenter")06:29
ubotukristjan_: File kinfocenter found in kcontrol, kde4base06:29
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kristjan_LjL: the should be reported against kcontrol then? or kde4base?06:29
tuco_So have you managed to make it worked or not 4stro?06:29
kristjan_LjL: the *bug06:30
LjLkristjan_: i'd say kcontrol06:30
LjLHow can i list all packages that come from a given repository URL (or component) using apt-cache or aptitude?06:31
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_4strOtuco_: type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"06:31
tuco_in terminal yes?06:31
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snaphow come kbuntu wants to launch gimp everytime i start a kde session?06:32
Tm_Tsnap: do you close it?06:32
_4strOtuco_: yes06:32
tuco_done06:32
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LjLHow can i list all packages that come from a given repository URL (or component) using apt-cache or aptitude?06:33
snaptim_t yeah it was closed06:33
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Tm_Tsnap: doublecheck it's not running, also doublecheck it's not mentioned in ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder06:33
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_4strOtuco_: type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:33
Tm_Tsnap: if doesn't help, I'll help you to start clean session06:33
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tuco_in command?06:34
tuco_done in command06:34
snapok hang on....not used to finding process manager in kde06:34
_4strOtuco_: you have your file open right ?06:35
tuco_yes sir06:35
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_4strOselect all and paste this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17845/06:35
tuco_what this will do exactly?06:35
AshexHeh06:36
AshexI have a laptop running dapper, and I want to upgrade it to feisty06:36
AshexBut, I'm pretty sure something will break06:36
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_4strOtuco_: sorry paste this one : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17847/06:36
tuco_man man ;-)06:37
Ashexso I was wondering if anyone was crazy enough to do the upgrade in one stage, as opposed to the two stage dapper to edgy edgy to feisty06:37
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tuco_what should this do 4stro?06:37
_4strOtuco_: it's for use the default driver wich is necessary to run beryl06:37
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tuco_you sure it is safe yeah?06:38
_4strOnot really sure but we can reverse easilly06:38
snaphmm itdidnt stat this time....but i was not able to find the "process manager" can you point it out to me?06:38
tuco_otherwise I'll hunt you down dude ;-)06:39
tuco_hold I paste06:39
_4strOsnap: ctrl + esc06:39
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LjLhow can standard Qt (or, if possible, GTK) applications be made to use the KDE global menubar?06:39
snapahh sweet thanks06:40
_4strO;)06:40
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_4strOsnap: otherwise he is in the system menu06:40
snapin gnome i have no problem finding things.....i still get a little lost in KDE06:40
tuco_done06:40
dwidmannLJL: are you sure it can be done at all?06:40
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_4strOtuco_: then restart X06:41
LjLdwidmann: no, i'm not sure at all, i'd like to though :)06:41
Tm_Taww06:41
CPrgmSwR2Hi, is there a way to download kubuntu because www.kubuntu.org is down06:41
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Tm_Tdwidmann: you meanie ;)06:41
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snapsystem services?06:41
Tm_TLjL: let's assume my settings work :-P06:42
_4strOsnap: not in the system settings06:42
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_4strOin the "system" part of principal menu06:42
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snapKSysGuard Performance Manager?06:43
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tuco_done 4stro06:43
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_4strOsnap: yes06:43
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snapalrighty then Thanx!! ;)06:43
_4strOtuco_: ok type ''glxinfo | grep render" in a console06:44
CraZy675I'm having a problem with my wireless configuration06:44
CraZy675I can see the wireless networks but cannot connect to them06:44
CraZy675it times out when trying to grab an ip06:44
_4strOtuco_: direct rendering: Yes ??06:44
tuco_nah06:45
tuco_Kidding yes :-)06:45
_4strOrhoooooooooooooo !!!06:45
_4strO:)06:45
_4strOwas afraid :p06:45
tuco_nga nga nga#06:45
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tuco_ok next my man06:45
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_4strOtuco_: then type : "sudo aptitude beryl beryl-manager"06:46
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domenic\join06:47
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tuco_to install Beryl yes?06:47
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_4strOtuco_: yes06:47
tuco_This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.06:48
tuco_Super Cow Powers! I thought only Mad Cow existed!06:48
CraZy675the router uses 64 bit encryption and I'm not sure how to set that on here06:48
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tuco_this is what I have06:49
_4strOtuco_: ok :p06:49
tuco_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17849/06:49
_4strOtry 'sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes'06:49
_4strOoups i forgot the 'install' word before :p06:50
_4strOnevermind06:50
tuco_so do I have to restart?06:50
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_4strOtuco_: nop06:51
tuco_I mean to install Beryl :-)06:51
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_4strOtuco_: do 'sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes'06:51
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tominglishi does anyone know how to enable binary transfer in kasablanca?06:52
CraZy675how do I enable 64 bit encryption for wireless?06:52
tuco_dooooooooooooooone06:52
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_4strOtuco_: type "beryl-manager &"06:53
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tuco_done06:53
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bbeck_Hello, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that the speech bubbles for kopete are appearing in the upper right hand corner rather than above the kicker?06:53
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tuco_I have this now06:53
_4strOtuco_: you have an rubis near the clock ?06:54
_4strOin the systray06:54
tuco_yes there is one also this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17850/06:54
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tucosorry06:56
domenichello, i have gcc installed, but i do not have stdio.h06:57
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tuco4stro the icon is there but it looks like there is something wrong no?06:57
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_4strOyes06:57
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domenicshould i reinstall gcc?06:57
_4strOtuco: can you paste the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?06:57
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17851/06:58
CraZy675how do I enable 64 bit encryption for wireless?06:59
CraZy675I can see the networks, but I can't connect to them06:59
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_4strOtuco: mmm that's not the one i gave you :/06:59
tucoThe last on yes07:00
tucoone07:00
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tucogive it back then07:00
_4strOtuco: 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'07:00
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_4strOhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17847/07:00
jussi01how do I get a root konquerer??07:01
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jussi01(for file browsing/deletin)07:01
_4strOjussi01: kdesu konqueror in a konsole07:01
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_4strOjussi01: but be carefull whenn you remove ;)07:02
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tucook pasted again 4stro07:02
_4strOtuco: restart X07:02
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jussi01_4strO: yeah, I know...:D07:02
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_4strOtuco: you save it ?07:02
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_4strOtoo late ...07:02
_4strOjussi01: you know what ? that you have to be carefull ?07:03
jussi01yes :D07:03
_4strO;)07:03
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barry_hello07:03
charliehere is a strange deal.  I just installed kubuntu on my compaq v2000 and konqueror will not connect to internet when using pcmcia wireless but firefox will.  konqueror will work however when connected by dsl (ethernet).  also, dhcp won't grab the default gateway or ip addy when on wireless.07:03
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Olivercharlie, what's your wireless network card?07:04
charliedlink air plus dw g63007:04
gemidjyhow do I tell Xorg to use only 64MB of the video RAM (highest is 128MB) ?07:05
charlieit worked fine in both dapper and edgy with out of the box.07:05
CraZy675i'm using the 7.04 live cd and my wireless is seeing the networks but im not able to connect to them07:05
Olivercharlie, have you tried changing your connector (I have changed from Wireless Assistant to Kwlan)07:06
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LjL!xconfig > gemidjy    (gemidjy, see the private message from Ubotu)07:06
Oliverthat coonected me07:06
CraZy675where should i go from here?07:06
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_4strO!xconfig > _4strO07:06
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gemidjyLjL: thanks :)07:07
Ashexhehe07:07
Ashexjust for fun, I'm upgrading dapper to feisty07:08
Ashexwonder how broken it will be....07:08
_4strOAshex: lol07:08
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charlie__CraZy675> did you try editing the network settings?07:09
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CraZy675charlie__: by right clicking in the task bar and setting up "manual configuration"07:10
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charlie__systemsettings>networksettings>routes tab> what is in this field?07:13
ubuntu4stro. I am screwed it didn't boot back in07:13
_4strOubuntu: ok no pb07:13
mrdlouisdHow do I build my own icon set, I downloaded the new icons id like to use, just having a hard time finding a tutorial on how to use them07:13
ubuntuI am using the Live cd now07:13
trotekkubuntu.org is down?07:13
ubuntuI don't want to reinstall everything again mate07:14
ubuntuis there a way to log back in?07:14
_4strOubuntu: you dont need to ;)07:14
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_4strOubuntu type  'sudo fdisk -l | grep linux'07:14
ubuntuwell after the Kubuntu loading screen it hangs there doing nothing07:14
_4strOubuntu: it will give you two lines07:14
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CraZy675charlie__: 192.168.0.107:14
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ubuntuI am using the Livd Cd how can I do what you told me?07:15
_4strOubuntu: you can open a konsole ?07:15
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ubuntuno I can't get into it all07:15
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ubuntuI had to put the live cd to come here07:15
ubuntunot from the install07:16
_4strOubuntu: your on the liveCD now righht ?07:16
ubuntuyes07:16
_4strOthen you have a konsole :p07:16
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ubuntuyes07:16
charlie__CraZy675>  ok how about the ip addy in network interfaces tab?07:17
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_4strOubuntu: type 'sudo fdisk -l | grep linux'07:17
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_4strOubuntu: you will have two lines07:17
CraZy675charlie__: it has a weird 162.... instead of 192.168.0.10007:17
_4strOdont want the swap one07:17
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boyee#ubuntu-cn07:17
CraZy675sorry 16907:17
_4strOubuntu: ok ?07:18
charlie__CraZy675>  hit administrator button and coose configure interface07:18
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intelikey_4strO you may assume to much.  i have 0 lines from that command07:18
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  fdisk -l | grep linux07:18
intelikeytty1 [root@~] 07:18
ubuntutrying07:18
CraZy675charlie__: yup07:18
charlie__then change that to 192.168.0.107:19
_4strOintelikey: sudo fdisk -l | grep linux07:19
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intelikey_4strO see the paste above ^07:19
_4strOintelikey: SUDO fdisk -l | grep linux !!!!!!!!!07:19
intelikey_4strO see the paste above ^07:19
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ubuntuand after 4stro?07:19
charlie__CraZy675>  oh yeah you have to click manual button.07:19
_4strOintelikey: .... SUDO SUDO SUDO SUDO07:20
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lovloss*whimper* somebody help me ;_;07:20
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intelikey_4strO are you really that ignorant ?         root using sudo adds nothing.07:20
CraZy675charlie__: change it to .1 or .100?07:20
pollyoHello07:20
charlie__try 10007:20
CraZy675k07:20
_4strOubuntu07:20
lovlossNothing automounts, and the loading screen turns my monitor off, i have to use recovery mode and manually load up kdm ....07:20
ubuntuwaiting07:20
_4strOhave you some lines ?07:20
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ubuntubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l | grep linux07:21
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$07:21
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  sudo fdisk -l | grep linux07:21
intelikeytty1 [root@~] 07:21
_4strOok ...07:21
_4strOmy fault07:21
ubuntuok now you are confusing me07:21
ubuntuwhat should I type?07:21
_4strOubuntu: sudo fdisk -l | grep Linux07:22
CraZy675alright trying this out brb07:22
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intelikeysudo fdisk -l | grep -i linux07:22
ubuntuwhich one damn it?07:22
JuJuBeeI installed a HD into my computer and installed windows on it for gaming.  How do I add it to my grub?07:22
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boyeeI install the scim but I type the CTRL+space not work in the kate.07:23
intelikeyubuntu they work the same.07:23
ubuntuI have two lines now07:23
_4strOok07:23
boyeeWhat I can do next?07:23
ubuntuWhat shall I do?07:23
JuJuBeeI see it from kubuntu.  /dev/sdb107:23
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boyeehelp me please!!!07:23
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ubuntu/dev/sda2            7785        9729    15623212+  83  Linux07:24
ubuntu/dev/sda3            7531        7784     2040255   82  Linux swap / Solaris07:24
_4strOubuntu: ok07:24
boyee I install the scim but I type the CTRL+space not work in the kate.07:24
ubuntusorry I am in the kitchen not very confy doing this07:24
intelikeyJuJuBee edit /boot/grub/menu.lst    and add the correct info07:24
_4strOubuntu: "sudo mkdir linuxtemp && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /linuxtemp"07:24
CraZy675nope i dont' get past 24% configuring device07:25
charlie__CraZy675>  next try setting the interface back to dhcp07:25
_4strOubuntu: (we are mounting your partition on a temp directory)07:25
ubuntumount: mount point /linuxtemp does not exist07:25
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intelikeyJuJuBee example info:  title Micro$oft Windows <nextline>   root    (hd0,0) <nextline>     chainloader +1 <nextline> boot07:26
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_4strOubuntu: type "sudo mkdir test && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /test"07:27
JuJuBeebut linux is (hd0,0) does it matter?07:27
intelikeyJuJuBee note that the " root (blah,#) " is the only part you will need to change.07:27
ubuntuount: mount point /test does not exist07:27
ubuntulooks like I am royally screwed here07:27
JuJuBeeSo set to (hd1,0) ?07:28
_4strOubuntu: no :p07:28
intelikeyJuJuBee most likely your specs will be   root (hd1,0)  but thats only a guess.07:28
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JuJuBeeHow can I find out?07:28
_4strOubuntu: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /test07:28
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intelikeycheck the output of  sudo fdisk -l ;cat /boot/grub/device*07:28
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ubuntumount: mount point /test does not exist07:29
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [17:28]  --> acemo has07:29
ubuntuit looks like I am having a trip on planet mars here now!07:29
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acemohuh?07:30
intelikeyand adjust accordingly.    possably even add an entry in /boot/grub/device.map07:30
_4strOsudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol07:30
_4strOubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol07:30
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llutz_4strO: ubuntu: sudo mkdir /lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol07:30
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llutz_4strO: missing / at mkdir07:30
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_4strOllutz: is there really a difference ?07:31
JuJuBeeintelikey : shows me /dev/sda1 , 2, & 3 for my linux drive and then /dev/sdb1 for my NTFS drive07:31
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ubuntuno nada niet nothing rien07:31
llutz_4strO: sure, "mkdir test " creates it in actual directory07:31
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llutz_4strO: "/test" is root-dir07:31
_4strOllutz: that's what i want07:31
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JuJuBeeThen under everything (hd0)  /dev/sda07:32
llutz_4strO: ubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 lol07:32
ubuntuOk all I want guys is start Kubuntu nornally again with the Live cd07:32
acemoanyone knows how to test if a folder excists in bash script?07:32
llutz_4strO: ^^ then use this07:32
intelikeyJuJuBee yes and the use of scsi emulation means that you probably want an entry in /boot/grub/device.map  saying "/dev/hdb (hd1) "   if it's not there already.07:32
ubuntuso what should I do?07:32
_4strOllutz: weird i never had this pb before07:32
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LjLacemo: test -e filename, i think07:33
_4strOubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 lol07:33
llutz_4strO: "lol" and "/lol" are only the same if you are in "/"07:33
LjLacemo: anyway, "help test"07:33
crubeI need an easy-to-use program I could use to edit web pages.07:33
llutz_4strO: "pwd" tells you, where you are ;)07:33
_4strOllutz: i know ;)07:33
acemoLjL: thanks, didnt knew there was a test command ^_^07:33
_4strOubuntu: ok now ?07:34
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ubuntuI don't know about the last one but it didnt give an error message07:34
_4strOubuntu: ok good07:34
JuJuBeeintelikey : I will give it a go... Thanks07:34
ubuntuI hope otherwise I'll put a reward on your head!07:35
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intelikeyJuJuBee they really made it harder to diagnose and help remotely, when they changed over to the use of scsi emulation for all hd's.     if you want you can pastebin   cat /proc/partitions   and i'll look at that for you.07:35
ubuntuwhat shall I do next 4stroboy?07:35
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_4strOubuntu: cd lol && kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:36
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JuJuBeeintelikey : thanks.  Let me see if the changes worked after restart first...07:36
intelikey /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:36
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intelikeyJuJuBee if so disreguard the pastebin...  :)07:37
_4strOubuntu:  ?07:38
_4strOwhat's hap ?07:38
ubuntuit gave me a lot of stuff in terminal then opened kate07:38
intelikey_4strO having him edit the config for the livecd ?07:38
_4strOyes07:38
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ubuntuPoor Kate she is all opened now :-)07:38
ubuntuyes07:38
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_4strOubuntu: the file is empty ?07:38
ubuntushe is asking for it I tell ya!07:38
ubuntunah07:39
Sanneubuntu: not funny07:39
JuJuBeeintelikey : reboot didn't even load grub menu...07:39
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ubuntuShe is asking for me to correct her Sanne that's all. No sexism here.07:39
ubuntuI have the xorg from before 4stro!07:39
_4strOubuntu: go to the Section "Device"07:39
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ubuntuyes07:40
yuriycharlie__: how did you end up with different name in different channels :P07:40
ubuntuit shows vesa07:40
_4strOremove all lines with Option07:40
yuriycharlie__: anyways, does knetworkmanager show you as online when you are on wireless07:40
slestakdoes anyone know how to disable the "do you want to dist-upgrade" prompt in adept?07:40
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yuriyor did you configure it manually elsewhere?07:40
polly1Hello...07:40
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intelikeyJuJuBee ok pastebin the output of these three things    cat /boot/grub/device.map /boot/grub/menu.lst /proc/partitions07:40
polly1I lost my taskbar.  Any idea what would cause that or what I have to run to bring it back up?07:41
ubuntuHold on 4stro I am pasting the file07:41
_4strOubuntu: remove all lines with Option ... (in the Section "Device")07:41
slestakive got an edgy machine at work that i do not want to upgrade (nor do I want anyone else to didt-upgrade it)07:41
intelikeyand yes that's all one command.  "cat /boot/grub/device.map /boot/grub/menu.lst /proc/partitions"07:41
charlie__starting knetworkmanager now, neve used it before07:41
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17858/07:41
yuriycharlie__: it's not started already? it's default on feisty07:42
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polly1brb07:42
_4strOubuntu: ok ...close kate :p07:42
yuriycharlie__: basically my guess is that konqueror is asking network-manager if you are online and thinks you're not, so it won't connect07:42
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yuriyand firefox doesn't do that07:42
_4strOubuntu07:42
ubuntudone07:42
ubuntuyes07:43
charlie__nothing showing me as online,  just been doing updates and using firefox07:43
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_4strOubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:43
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ubuntuopened kate empty07:43
JuJuBeeintelikey : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1785907:43
JuJuBeeI removed comments07:44
intelikeylooking07:44
charlie__ok i see,  it shows no connection.07:44
yuriycharlie__: does it detect your network card and networks?07:44
_4strOubuntu: close ...07:44
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ubuntuok07:44
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_4strOubuntu: cd..07:44
ubuntuhuh?07:44
_4strOcd..07:44
_4strO^^07:45
polly1Anyone know how I would get my taskbar back with the K menu?07:45
ubuntucd where? how?07:45
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charlie__when i plug the ethernet in then it shows a connection07:45
yuriyyou mean cd .. i think07:45
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_4strOin the command line just type 'cd ..'07:45
_4strOyuriy: yep07:45
charlie__in the network interfaces tab it show both ath0 and eth0 as enabled and connected07:45
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ubuntucannot run the command line07:46
charlie__the icon on the task bar show not connected07:46
ubuntuin terminal or command?07:46
polly1Does anyone know the name of the application to start the taskbar?07:46
yuriycharlie__: unfortunately network-manager is stupid and can't figure out that you're connected if it didn't configure the connection07:46
_4strOubuntu: try 'kdesu etc/X11/xorg.conf07:46
Sannepolly1: it should be kicker07:46
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Sannepolly1: if you mean the whole panel07:46
polly1Sanne: Ok. Thanks.07:46
ubuntuetc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied07:47
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~/lol$07:47
polly1Sanne: I have a bar at the top but the bottom bar is gone.  is that considered the whole panel?07:47
ubuntupfffffffffff07:47
charlie__yuriy__ i had to futz with settings to get it to work.07:47
Sannepolly1: oh, no, it isn't07:47
_4strOlooool07:47
Sannepolly1: you're on kubuntu?07:47
_4strOubuntu: try 'kdesu kate etc/X11/xorg.conf07:47
polly1running kicker didn't bring it back.07:47
_4strOi'm really tired ...07:47
ubuntuI am losing my hair over this again07:47
polly1Sanne: Yes kubuntu.07:47
charlie__how do you get konqueror to recognize the connection07:47
polly1Sanne: I setup to have a bar at the top as well. but it isn't the one with the K07:48
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ubuntuopened kate07:48
intelikeyJuJuBee all looks correct.     you could   sudo grub-install /dev/sda     to update the mbr   but it shouldn't be needed.     ah unless installing windows has hosed the mbr, which is probably the case.07:48
ubuntuagain07:48
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_4strOubuntu: this is my fault sorry i made lot of mistake07:48
polly1Sanne: Running kicker didn't bring up the K bar.  I have no idea where it went.07:48
_4strOubuntu: not an empty file ?07:48
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ubuntuNo problem I thank you for that!07:48
JuJuBeeintelikey : no, I disconnected my linux drive when I installed windows.07:48
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ubuntuempty file yes07:49
kalorin!dos2unix07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
JuJuBeeTo avoid that problem.07:49
kalorinhrms.. surprised that's not a package07:49
ubuntuno not empty sorry07:49
_4strOubuntu: ok close kate and type 'cd ..' in the console07:49
polly1Kicker is already running.07:49
intelikeyJuJuBee then it shouldn't be needed.     what interface are these drives ?    sata ?  ide ?   scsi ?  ...?07:49
_4strOubuntu: ok07:49
polly1but no K menu bar07:49
_4strOpfiouuuu07:49
yuriycharlie__: i don't know the solution off the top of my head, trying to search the forums but the search is being useless for some reason.07:49
JuJuBeeLinux is on a sata and windows on ide.07:49
Sannepolly1: I'm having a right click menu entry for the panel of: "Add new panel" -> "External Taskbar". Is this what you want?07:49
_4strOubuntu: now in the Section "Device"07:49
ubuntuyes07:50
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_4strOubuntu: you have Identifier"ATI RADEON X1400"07:50
ubuntuI closed kate07:50
_4strOLOL07:50
ubuntuarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh07:50
intelikeyJuJuBee that's it.   go into bios and tell it to boot from the sata drive first.07:50
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JuJuBeeIt is booting from sata first...07:50
ubuntuI guess it will be quicker If I reinstall Kubuntu :-)07:50
JuJuBeeThat is where linux is installed.07:50
polly1Sanne: Strange I do not have an option to add new panel.07:50
ubuntubut I will need your help for the ATI drivers07:51
Sannepolly1: for the kmenu you do right click-> add applet. The kmenu is in there.07:51
ubuntuall this for Beryl...geez07:51
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Sannepolly1: what do you have when you right click?07:51
polly1Sanne: You are right clicking on the background image?07:51
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Sannepolly1: no, on the panel07:51
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ubuntuso 4stro shall I re?install K07:52
polly1Sanne: I tried it on the top panel and got some options.07:52
Sannepolly1: which ones?07:52
yuriycharlie__: try commenting everything in /etc/network/interfaces and restarting07:52
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charlie__yuriy> thanks, I have been posting to the forums.07:52
_4strOif the liveCD choose the vesa driver for an ATI, does it mean the free ati driver doesn't supported ?07:52
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intelikeyJuJuBee and edit /boot/grub/device.map    change  (hd1)   /dev/sdb    to   (hd1)   /dev/hda   (assuming first ide)   if cdrom drive or anything on the same bus might be hdc07:52
polly1Sanne: What panel is considered the one with the K button?07:52
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_4strOubuntu07:52
_4strOubuntu: no07:52
ubuntuI am asking you mate...you knoe better than I do07:52
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ubuntuyes07:52
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Sannepolly1: the kmenu is an applet you can add to the panel.07:52
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charlie__yuriy> you mean #everything07:53
_4strOubuntu: in one command we can reverse to the original version you had before this test ;)07:53
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charlie__oops07:53
yuriycharlie__: yeah i think # is the right thing07:53
ubuntuI am waiting for it like preachers for Jesus!07:53
yuriyg2g, gl07:53
JuJuBeeOK, done, now restarting ...07:53
_4strOubuntu: but i just wanna know something before07:53
ubuntuahaha07:53
charlie__okeedokee07:53
_4strOif the liveCD choose the vesa driver for an ATI, does it mean the free ati driver doesn't supported ?07:53
_4strOnobody knows ?07:53
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polly1Sanne: I have Dock Application , External , Kasbar, krim , externap panel07:54
_4strOintelikey:07:54
polly1make that ksim07:54
Ashex_4strO, the liveCD i believe uses the vesa driver as a default07:54
giorgosIn every restart I have 70% chance that the kernel wouldnt mount the swap and ntfs partitions. Anybody with this issue?07:54
polly1universal sidebar07:54
intelikey_4strO no it means the live cd uses vesa by default07:54
polly1as well07:54
_4strOok thx07:54
ubuntubut at least with Vesa I get a 1024x768...the case here is that I cannot boot into Kubuntu, only get a black screen after the loading screen07:54
_4strOubuntu: kate is open right07:54
ubuntuno07:54
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_4strOubuntu: kdesu kate etc/X11/xorg.conf07:55
atzanyone know where in KDE you change your cursor?07:55
JuJuBeeintelikey : no menu, straight to linux.07:55
Sannepolly1: that doesn't look at all like mine. Are you sure you're looking at the kde panel?07:55
intelikeyatz kcontrol07:55
ubuntuopened and empty07:55
snapyeah been looking for that07:55
_4strOubuntu: not empty07:55
atzty intelikey :)07:55
intelikeyJuJuBee k let me revisit the pastebin.....07:55
ubuntuit is07:56
Ashexto reconfigure the xorg.conf file07:56
polly1Sanne: Under add new panel right?07:56
Sannepolly1: oh wait!!07:56
Ashexuse sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-oxrg07:56
JuJuBeeshould I grub-install /dev/sda ?07:56
intelikeyJuJuBee remove the line in menu.slt     hiddenmenu07:56
_4strOubuntu: did you type the cd .. command before ?07:56
ubuntuyes07:56
_4strOok07:56
intelikeyJuJuBee if it's told to hide the menu it does....07:56
_4strOubuntu: close kate and 'kdesu kate lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:57
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snapwhere is Kcontrol in the menues?07:57
JuJuBeemy bad, didn't see that...07:57
ubuntuempty kate07:57
Ashex_4strO, what are they trying to do?07:57
Sannepolly1: yes, I see the same (almost). I have "External Taskbar" instead of "External Panel". Maybe because I'm on Dapper still. I would try those external options.07:57
intelikeysnap used to be look & feel   themes   i think07:57
_4strOAshex: running the ati free driver on a radeon X140007:58
ubuntuagain!07:58
polly1Sanne: Yes.  Mine also says Eternal Taskbar.  should have jotted them down prior to typing them.07:58
_4strOubuntu: empty ?07:58
ubuntuyes07:58
intelikey_4strO  >>> kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:58
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snapfound something under system settings "keyboard & mouse07:58
slestakis there a way to lock an install to edgy and prevent dist-upgrade?  i want to disable the adept dist-upgrade dialog.07:58
intelikeythe leading / maybe.07:58
polly1Sanne: I was able to get a new panel going with the K menu.  I'll have to look more into it later.  Thanks for the heads up on finding the add panel.07:58
_4strOintelikey: there is something i dont see on the liveCD tree :p07:58
_4strOubunt07:59
_4strOubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:59
Sannepolly1: you're welcome :)07:59
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polly1BB:07:59
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ubuntuAt this pace I better just reinstall the damn thing and sweat again to reinstall drivers arhhhh07:59
facugaichI just downloaded w32codecs from medibuntu but the file seems to be corrupt, plus the transfer rate is very low, are there any mirrors?07:59
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slestakfacugaich: i think the mplayer homepage has them08:00
_4strOubuntu: without all my mistakes we done nothing :p08:00
_4strOwe hed done08:00
balinthi, can someone tell me, wich port is used by the Adept Manager?08:00
_4strOhad08:00
ubuntustrange it showed a few things on the left like desktop,linux temp, lol, test...08:00
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ubuntubut kate still empty08:00
JuJuBeeintelikey : got the menu, selected windows and now stayed at Starting Up ...  for while, Now stuck at blank screen.08:00
_4strOok ...08:01
_4strOubuntu08:01
_4strOclose kate !08:01
ubuntudying...08:01
ubuntudooooooooone08:01
_4strOubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:01
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ubuntuempty kate08:02
KimppaHello. I've just changed my mother board and as expected, some hardware isn't working anymore (such as sounds). Is there any way I can reconfigure kubuntu to my new mother board - other than reinstalling it?08:02
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intelikeyJuJuBee ok.  you probably need to read up on grub a bit and find out how to tell grub to set hda to 0x80    cause windows was installed on what bios saw as 0x80  now it's trying to load on 0x81   (bios declaration of hard drive location, kinda like the grub hd0 thing.)08:03
_4strOubuntu: close kate and type 'pwd'08:03
ubuntudone08:03
_4strOubuntu: result ?08:03
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balintwhere can i browse the irc channles in konversation????08:03
JuJuBeeSounds too much trouble... Might be eaiser to reset HD order in bios when I need windows...08:04
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balintoh i got it, F508:04
intelikeyJuJuBee i'd just give you the line to add if i knew grub,  but i use lilo.    in lilo it would be       boot-as=0x80     but i doubt that grub will recognize that.08:04
ubuntuwithout the unknown command08:04
seancan someone please help me?08:04
_4strOubuntu: pwd08:04
JuJuBeelet me look it up...08:04
ubuntudone that08:04
_4strOwill give you one line08:04
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seanits a newbie question, it will probably be really easy to answer....08:05
fdovingsean: ask, and see what happens.08:05
intelikeyJuJuBee you can do it that way too.  (bios change for each boot gets tiresum)08:05
_4strO!ask | sean08:05
ubotusean: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:05
ubuntuSean...if you need to mess up your machine ask 4stro ;-)08:05
seanim trying to remap my apple(command) key to work as the ctrl key on an apple ibook g408:05
seanim attempting to follow these instructions : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364008:05
intelikeyfdoving might know grub well enough to tell you JuJuBee08:05
_4strOubuntu: pwd give one line no ?08:05
ubuntuyes08:06
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seancan someone translate those from me :P?08:06
_4strOubun08:06
_4strOubun08:06
_4strOoups08:06
ubuntuthis one /home/ubuntu\08:06
balintactually i have one questiion:) hoc can i find out, wich ports are used by the adept manager, and konversation???08:06
fdovingJuJuBee: what's the problem?08:06
SanneKimppa: usually hardware is recognized at boot time by the linux kernel, so I doubt reinstalling would help.08:06
_4strOubuntu: cd lol08:06
JuJuBeeintelikey : what aobut this... map (0x81) (0x80)08:06
_4strOubuntu: ls08:06
ubuntubuntu@ubuntu:~/lol$08:06
ubuntudone08:07
intelikeyJuJuBee see fdoving08:07
_4strOubuntu: you have many things appear ?08:07
ubuntuyes sir08:07
intelikeyi'll be back in a few.08:07
_4strOcd etc/X11/08:07
_4strOubuntu: cd etc/X1108:07
JuJuBeefdoving : I installed windows on second HD (but I removed my linux drive first).  Now I want to dual boot.08:07
_4strOubuntu: cd etc/X11/08:07
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~/lol/etc/X11$08:08
fdovingJuJuBee: and you08:08
_4strOubuntu: kdesu kate xorg.conf08:08
fdovingJuJuBee: and you're stuck with linux only? or windows only?08:08
JuJuBeeLinux08:08
_4strOempty ?08:08
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JuJuBeemy windows drive  is mounted on linux desktop.08:08
JuJuBeeI can see it..08:08
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ubuntufull08:08
fdovingJuJuBee: ok. good. then it's rather easy.08:08
JuJuBeeLinux on SATA windows on IDE08:08
SanneKimppa: I can't give specific advice with sound because I didn't have problems so far, but let me give you hints from the bot:08:08
_4strOubunin the section Section "Device"08:09
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Sanne!sound | Kimppa08:09
ubotuKimppa: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:09
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fdovingJuJuBee: ok. should be pretty stright forward. what have you tried?08:09
_4strOubuntu: in the Section "Device"08:09
trotekhey, what's going on with kubuntu.org?08:09
_4strOubuntu: remove all lines begin with Option08:09
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_4strOubuntu: you have 8 lines08:10
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seananyone?08:10
ubuntufull file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17861/08:10
Sannetrotek: seems to be down for me08:10
JuJuBeein /boot/grub/device.map added (hd1) /dev/hda and in menu.lst added entry for windows root (hd1,0)08:10
JuJuBeehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1785908:11
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_4strOubun08:11
ubuntuyesssssssss08:11
ubuntuok I remove the lines08:11
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_4strOubuntu: then save and reboot08:12
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fdovingJuJuBee: sdb is windows? - what does it say when you try to boot windows?08:12
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JuJuBeefdoving : doesn't boot windows...  after Starting Up ... blank screen.08:13
fdovingJuJuBee: oh.. so windows does actually begin booting?08:13
fdovingit just fails.. ?08:13
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JuJuBeeNot sure?  I think the starting up... is part of linux (grub).08:14
JuJuBeeI changed the entry in device.map from what is in pastebin...08:15
JuJuBeeIf I change bios boot order to IDE first, windows boots fine.08:15
fdovingJuJuBee: ok. hard to tell what the problem is without an error message. i deleted windows a few days ago. :|08:16
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giorgossame for me. I have 70% chance though of not mounting swap and ntfs partitions. Anoybody with this issue?08:17
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JuJuBeeI only need windows for gaming...08:18
JuJuBeeabout 3-4 times a year.08:18
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JuJuBeeSee, the linux install was done as only HD in computer and same for windows.  Now I want to put both HD's in computer and dual boot.08:19
AshexJuJuBee, have the Bios boot off the linux drive08:19
fdovingsean: make a ~/.xmodmap file like the one explained in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=63485&postcount=15 - then run 'xmodmap' on every login. might need to install xmodmap if it's not available by default.08:19
Ashexand add an entry in menu.lst to boot the windows drive08:20
Ashexso, insert the drive first, and then figure out the location08:20
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eifzonwhere can i get kubuntu? kubuntu.com is down08:20
JuJuBeeashex : it is...08:20
eifzoni want fiesty 7.0408:20
JuJuBeebut not working...08:20
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fdovingeifzon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/08:20
AshexJuJuBee, one second08:21
AshexI'll pastebin mine08:21
fdovingJuJuBee: did you try without your changes to device.map ?08:21
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fyrmedicWhat's up with the website?08:21
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JuJuBeefdoving : yes.08:21
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ubuntuIt didn't work 4stro08:22
_4strOlol ubuntu... not better ?08:22
_4strOok08:22
AshexJuJuBee, this is what I use for booting windows: http://pastebin.ca/45981408:23
ubuntuso  my only option is to reinstall08:23
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_4strOubuntu: no08:23
_4strOlook08:23
ubuntuhonestly I don't want to waste another two hours on it08:23
JuJuBeeashex : i'll look...brb08:23
fdovingJuJuBee: so, a 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' - does that help? - i think that'll make the device.maps etc. by itself.08:23
fdovingubuntu, what is it you're trying to do?08:24
AshexJuJuBee wants to boot both systems08:24
ubuntuit will be faster for me to reinstall and then put ATI drivers again08:24
Ashexinstalling grub won't do diddly08:24
Ashexto generate a new device.maps08:24
Ashexrun grub-update08:24
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Goliath23hi08:24
_4strOubuntu: sudo mkdir /lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol && sudo mv /lol/etc/X11/xorg.bak /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:24
Goliath23is aoss known to not work on x64 platforms?08:24
Goliath23I get a ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded:                                            ignored.08:25
ubuntuI can't boot in Kubuntu anymore...it hangs atfter the loading screen. With a white little line flashing inn a blank screen08:25
_4strOubuntu: type the command above08:25
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_4strOubuntu: and reboot ;)08:25
_4strO(if there no error)08:26
JuJuBeeashex : is windows on separate HD?08:26
ubuntuok doing it now08:26
AshexJuJuBee, for me it is08:26
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AshexJuJuBee, don't use that exact entry though, you'll probably need to modify the root location08:26
JuJuBeeashex : so does linux show (hd0,0)?08:26
Ashexso, insert the drive, boot into ubuntu08:26
Ashexand then do fdisk -l08:26
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Ashexno08:27
fdovingJuJuBee: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why#Separate_disk_installation08:27
ubuntuctrl alt backspace gave nothing08:27
AshexI have ubuntu on a seperate disk08:27
Ashexso, it's located at (hd1,0)08:27
Ashexwhile windows is located at (hd0,2)08:27
ubuntuor do I have to reboot it all?08:27
fdovingJuJuBee: it says windwos generally does not like to be the second drive.08:27
JuJuBeeashex : the disk for windows is /dev/sdb108:27
_4strOubuntudid you type the command ?08:27
ubuntuin terminal yes08:28
_4strOubuntu: did you type the command before ?08:28
_4strOok08:28
_4strOyou have to reboot08:28
AshexJuJuBee, what's the root disk located?08:28
ubuntuctrl alt bacspce did nothing08:28
_4strOubuntu: you're on the liveCD08:28
JuJuBeeashex : sda108:28
AshexJuJuBee, actually, run this command: cat /boot/grub/device.map08:28
ubuntuyes08:28
_4strOreboot !08:28
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SanneJuJuBee: this may also help: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows08:28
ubuntuok08:28
_4strOwithout the CD ;)08:28
_4strOubuntu:08:29
AshexSeriously people08:29
AshexI'm helping the man08:29
Ashexquit throwing random links at him08:29
_4strOyou dont have any error before with the command ?08:29
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_4strOtoo late ...08:29
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lucaHi08:29
SanneAshex: sorry. It's about disk swapping when windows is not on the first disk, I thought that applies here. Will shut up now :)08:30
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JuJuBeeteh device.map has (hd1) /dev/hda08:30
Ashexheh08:30
Ashexokay, run this command: sudo update-grub08:30
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lucaI need help setting up my scren resolution on kubuntu08:30
Ashexit needs to update device.map to contain the second drive you've inserted08:30
grafthi how come there's no packages of mandvd in kubuntu?08:30
graftit's like the highest rated app on kde-apps...08:31
fdovingAshex: ok, when you give up, go read the link i posted above. :)08:31
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Ashexfdoving, there are a couple ways you can do it08:32
AshexI'm showing him how I have it setup08:32
Ashexwhich is similar to his08:32
fdoving.. except his windows is on the second drive.08:32
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fdovingand the links me and sanne posted will help you solve that specific issue.08:32
JuJuBeeSince I show my windows drive as /dev/sdb1, should my map be (hd1) /dev/dsb ? in device.map08:32
Sannegraft: I guess it's because of lacking packagers/time/interest. Somebody has to package it for Kubuntu, seemingly nobody did so far.08:32
tuco4stro?08:32
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tucoIt worked you cheeky bugger!08:32
_4strOtuco: yes08:32
tucoYou knew the command and you mAD08:33
tucomade me wait!08:33
tucoIf I get to you....arghhhhhhhhhh08:33
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Ashexfdoving, I have windows on a second drive also08:33
_4strOtuco: i know but it seems that the free driver does'nt support your videocard :/08:33
tucohow come?08:33
Ashexfdoving, I want to try it the automated way before doing it the manual way (looked at that link)08:34
_4strOtuco: dont know why ... but without the free driver, you cant have beryl08:34
tuco:( :( :(08:34
fdovingAshex: ok. good :)08:34
_4strOor you can but will be more complicate :/08:34
AshexJuJuBee, what do you mean?08:34
tucoYou just broke my heart08:34
_4strOlol08:34
tucoBeryl is sooooooooo sexy08:35
Ashexfdoving, so I'm not ignoring your input, I just vented way back because it's annoying when people just interrupt08:35
_4strOtuco: know you can ' sudo apt-get remove beryl emerald-themes08:35
_4strO:/08:35
fdovingAshex: sure, i was first :)08:35
AshexJuJuBee, it will probably show up as (hd1)08:35
_4strObrb$08:35
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Ashexfdoving, ah, I didn't see your comments08:35
Ashexso, my mistake >_>08:36
JuJuBeeashex : when i did fdisk -l , the windows disk is at /dev/sdb1  so, should my device.map have (hd1) /dev/sdb  and the root section for my windows in menu.lst be (hd1,0) ?08:36
fdovingAshex: i'm perfectly happy with you taking over. no problem :)08:36
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AshexJuJuBee, yes08:36
_4strOtuco: will googleing to know more about you ATI X140008:37
AshexJuJuBee, do another cat of device.map to check that it's updated08:37
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tucook my friends08:37
JuJuBeeI had to manually change device.map, didn't I?08:37
_4strOit works with my poor X600 it have to work with your X1400008:38
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tucowhy only this one then? :-(08:38
AshexJuJuBee, did you run update-grub?08:38
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pctunninghola a todos08:40
JuJuBeeYes, just di.08:40
JuJuBeedid08:40
Ashexokay08:40
pctunningalquien sabe como desinstalar beryl?08:40
Ashexdo another cat of device.map08:40
pctunninganyone know how to uninstall beryl?08:41
JuJuBeeStill shows what I put in there (hd0) /dev/sda   and   (hd1) /dev/sdb08:41
graftpctunning: sudo apt-get remove beryl08:41
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AshexJuJuBee, okay, sounds good08:41
pctunningyes, but this accion remove all?08:41
Ashexso, using that template i gave you for a menu entry08:41
Ashexmodify menu.lst and add in an entry at the bottom for windows08:42
Ashexand use (hd1,0) for the root08:42
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graftpctunning: sudo apt-get remove beryl*08:42
pctunningok, thanks08:42
pctunningah, ok08:42
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JuJuBeeI have that in menu.lst.08:42
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AshexJuJuBee, okay, you should be good to go then08:43
Ashexreboot and try booting into windows08:43
JuJuBeeLet me reboot...08:43
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kalorinps -ef08:44
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pctunningit exist any channell of kubuntu in spanish?08:46
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Sanne!es08:47
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:47
fdoving!es | pctunning08:47
ubotupctunning: please see above08:47
SharpRazorcould anyone help me?? I don't have GUI in the newest kernel-module, tried to install kubuntu-desktop but it didn't help at all:(08:48
ale84anyone have a sony vaio vgn a 517b ?? because seems to be impossible install any linux on this laptop  doesn't reconize my hdd, any one can tell me why ??08:48
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stoftI have an external usb drive that doesn't mount (probably because I detached it during boot). Where should I start looking for error messages/which daemon is most likely to be responsible?08:49
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JuJuBeeashex : when I select windows from grub, grub says Starting Up...  Then nothing happens...08:49
JuJuBeeblinking cursor08:50
stoftale84: what happens when you type startx in the commandline?08:50
qsuanybody very good with openoffice overhere08:51
ikogwhat's the difference between ubuntu + kde package, and kubuntu, is it just some extra packages and different menu entries, etc? I assume the underlying kde packages are the same?08:51
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AshexJuJuBee, hmm08:51
AshexJuJuBee, what's the partitioning layout of the windows disk?08:51
Ashexis it just one partition?08:51
stoftikog: mostly yeah, kubuntu also has different usplash and kdm instead of gdm.08:51
JuJuBeeYes...08:52
ikogstoft: ah that's great, I prefer ubuntu + kde so I will stick with that, I'm happy to do the extra setup myself08:52
ikogstoft: I ran edgy ubuntu + kde, just upgraded to feisty so I was gonna do the same thing08:52
stoftikog: what is it you prefer in ubuntu more than in kubuntu?08:52
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SharpRazorwhat's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu:)??08:53
ikogstoft: I just like having a full gnome install if I need it, plus I like the plain default kde08:53
ikogstoft: there's not really much difference though08:53
AshexJuJuBee, okay, open up menu.lst08:53
Ashexwe're going to tweak that entry a little08:53
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ikogI guess I could install gnome on kubuntu, but that seems even weirder than kde on ubuntu08:53
JuJuBeeK08:53
stoftikog: ok. in that case go with what you've got. I've got the ubuntu usplash but kubuntu install. I like the ubuntu colors during startup more.08:54
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SanneSharpRazor: Ubuntu -> GNOME desktop, Kubuntu -> KDE Desktop08:54
AshexJuJuBee, change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify (hd1,0)08:54
JuJuBeedone08:55
fdovingstoft: about that usb device, does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?08:55
CraZy675my wireless was working with the live cd but now that I've installed to hdd I don't see any networks08:55
stoftfdoving: no08:55
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fdovingstoft: ok, good. it's remoable so it should just be a matter of plugging it in then.08:55
fdoving*removable08:55
AshexJuJuBee, now at the bottom of it, add in the lines: map (hd0) (hd1) // map (hd1) (hd0)08:55
stoftfdoving: tried and retried a few times08:56
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ikogright... I think I'll try the switch to kde now, I want to see if it can eject my USB2 hard drive, gnome won't let me08:56
AshexJuJuBee, and try that08:56
fdovingstoft: ok, you can try 'dcop kded mediamanager reloadBackends' in a konsole.08:56
stoftfdoving: lights turn on but nothing mounts. it's a fairly new drive (1 month tops) so don't think I lost it...08:56
JuJuBeeupdate-grup?08:56
JuJuBeeor reboot08:56
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AshexJuJuBee, reboot08:57
stoftfdoving: with the drive plugged in?08:57
JuJuBeek08:57
fdovingstoft: yes, that doesn't really matter. so yes, why not.08:57
SharpRazorcould anyone tell me what will happen if ill install kde-desktop on newest kernel in which i don't have a GUI??08:58
JuJuBeeashex : Error 11 : unrecognized device string  Press any key to continue ...  back to menu08:58
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SharpRazorwhat will happen with old Kde Desktop Environment on the older kernel??08:59
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AshexJuJuBee, hmm08:59
Ashexokay, remove those two lines we added09:00
CraZy675where can I read the difference between the cd and the dvd?09:00
JuJuBeedone09:00
AshexJuJuBee, the entry is setup as it should be09:00
JuJuBeeK, rebooting again...09:00
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AshexJuJuBee, it seems as though the drive location isn't correct09:00
AshexJuJuBee, double check that (hd1,0) is correct09:01
AshexI'll brb09:01
stdinCraZy675: the DVD is the desktop install and the alternate install cd in one, you can also do a server or OEM install from it. it also has more packages on it, so you can use it as an apt- source09:02
stoftfdoving: ok, "lost" my other devices. tried replugging the drive that wouldn't mount but no luck. tried plugging it into another usb port, which worked. the other devices also mount ok.09:02
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CraZy675interesting09:03
fdovingstoft: so it works in another port?09:03
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stoftfdoving: yes. any idea what's happened?09:03
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JuJuBeeHow do I make sure that (hd1,0) is correct ?09:03
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fdovingstoft: no, sounds strange.09:04
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levi_Question09:04
levi_Why cant I write to a slave hard drive?09:04
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stoftcould there be a lower level daemon or something (shooting from my hip here) that crashed/comm errored on that specific port?09:04
atidemre09:05
stdinJuJuBee: check in /boot/grub/device.map09:05
jonathan__stoft: (jumping in without really knowing the full conversation) might be a prob w/ usb2 on different usb buses - I've had usb wireless nics not work plugged in the front of the computer, work from the back.09:05
JuJuBeestdin : I put the entry there, I want to make sure it was correct.09:05
jonathan__stoft: look @ /var/log/syslog as you plug the drive in09:05
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stdinJuJuBee: ahh, well hd1,0 would be the 1st partition on the 1st slave device or 2nd master (if there is no slave)09:06
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JuJuBeestdin : i have 1 SATA and 1 IDE HD.  I also have an IDE DVD as slave to IDE HD09:07
stoftjonathan__: thnx for the assistance. this is a first time occurence, the device has loaded on the "faulty" port previously without problems.09:07
levi_Why cant I write to a slave hard drive?09:08
jonathan__stoft: eh - just a thought...09:08
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stoftjonathan__: np mate, thankful for it :)09:09
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stdinJuJuBee: what does (hd1) have in /boot/grub/device.map09:09
stoftjonathan__: the drive was disconnected in the middle of boot so guessing something errored out in the middle of loading.09:09
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JuJuBeestdin : hd1  /dev/sdb (which is my windows drive IDE)09:10
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stdinJuJuBee: then (hd1,0) is the 1st partition on sdb09:11
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JuJuBeeOK.09:11
insmod7.04 still can't shut down an acer lol09:12
stoftfdoving: thnx for the help btw09:12
JuJuBeeWell, it wont boot when I try to boot via grub. But if I tell bios to boot from that disc before the sata, then windows boots fine.09:12
ASmith42I installed KDiskFree and now I can't find it.09:12
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fdovingstoft: it was so little, but you09:12
fdovingre welcome.09:12
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Tm_Tlevi_: hmm, you can't?09:13
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roachi'm hooking up an NTFS portable drive09:14
jonathan__stoft: what do logs say as you turn on the usb drive? tail -f /var/log/syslog09:14
roachand i click on open the drive in a new window09:14
roachand it doesn't open09:15
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stoftfdoving: jonathan__:  "hub 4-4:1.0: cannot disable port 3 (err = -71)" and then "hub 4-4:1.0: cannot reset port 3 (err = -71)".09:16
Smurphy[ACS] Anyone knos a nice programm to draw Network-draft ? PLans etc. ?09:16
stoftjonathan__: that was during startup though.09:17
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stoftjonathan__: fdoving: tried remounting it on the old port, now it mounted fine. weird. chalk one up to the phases of the moon...09:18
stoftthnx for the help nonetheless09:18
Ashexstdin, have you figured out the grub issue with JuJuBee?09:18
AshexI tried helping him but didn't have any luck :/09:18
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JuJuBeeAshex : nope.  Still no joy09:19
AshexHmm09:19
jonathan__stoft: middle of 10,000 ???'s that you just answered - yeah, waxing moons'l do that!09:19
Ashexthat is rather annoying that issue09:19
AshexJuJuBee, you can try ##linux09:19
TheCreationistI'm having a strange sound issue in Edgy.  For some reason, whenever I login, I need to manually run alsamixer and fix a balance issue... Kubuntu will only play sound from one speaker until I run alsamixer.  Any ideas?09:19
stdinbooting windows can be difficult sometimes09:20
JuJuBeethanx09:20
myteHas anyone gotten beryl to work on kubuntu feisty KDE when using AIGLX xserver with ATI Radeon card, Igot it workin on xgl xserver, but my ati drivers aren't apparently eorkin on xgl. ??? This problems killing me.09:20
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roguejedixmyte: As far as I know, ATI announced never to support AIGLX. I could be wrong, though09:21
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myteroguedix that would be a bit confusing since i got  ATI drivers working only on AIGLX with fglrx drivers,09:23
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roguejedixmyte: Oh, sorry. Misread what you said09:24
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eifzonHow do i install my nvidia-graphic drivers for kubuntu?09:25
roguejedixeifzon: What card do you have?09:25
eifzonroguejedix: asus geforce 7950 gt09:25
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roguejedixeifzon: Then run adept and install nvidia-glx09:26
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eifzonroguejedix: anything more?09:27
roguejedixeifzon: Yes, then in the console type in: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable . After that, restart X and you're done09:27
eifzonok :))09:27
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myteThis is just twisted, i get this feeling i'm cursed with these bizarre problems since i startes using linux .09:28
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kalorinteh curses!09:29
kalorinteh curse of teh lunix!09:29
roguejedixmyte: Composite window managers are still in early stages, so there's bound to be problems09:30
kalorini just disabled it because remote desktop wouldn't run with it09:30
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kalorinunless you pull the 1.5 version and use that, but I prefer to stay wtih the packages isntead of building my own and having to deal with all the hassle of upgrading them and stuff09:30
mlvspanish??09:30
stdin!es | mlv09:30
ubotumlv: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:30
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kalorinthey should ditch the ! <whatever> and make it private message based09:31
mlv#ubuntu-es09:31
kalorinthen it doesn't clutter the channel so much09:31
mlvcomo entro??09:31
roguejedixmlv: /join #ubuntu-es09:31
mlvok ;)09:31
roguejedixI hope that's what he meant09:31
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myteroguedix i bet youre right , btw when i enabled composite extenctions on xorg.conf , my ATI drivers stopped working, and when i disabled them again they worked fine again09:33
AshexHoly crap09:33
AshexI see why they say not to upgrade from dapper to feisty09:33
Ashexit doesn't break packages, it just removes everything...09:33
Ashexfor some reason during dist-upgrade, it removed kubuntu-desktop09:33
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stdinAshex: try installing it again then09:34
eifzonwierd, my X didnt load09:34
bonbonthejonAshex: did you have kubuntu-desktop removed before hand09:34
stdineifzon: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for errors09:34
eifzonok09:34
eifzondid i install the right nvidia driver then? nvidia-glx ?09:34
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eifzongot Asus Geforce 7950 GT09:35
myteATI isn't obviously the way to go on linux,but it came with my laptop so i cant help it. atleast i got almost everything workin after couple of tough nights09:35
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Ashexheh, I am installing it again09:36
Ashexafter the dist-upgrade, update, dist-upgrade again, and then -f install, I noticed that the kmenu was rather empty09:37
mytei still cant get my webcam working it's integrated acer orbicam, not sure if there is any way to get it working09:37
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AshexAll the K apps were gone, so I'm installing the kubuntu-desktop package again, and it's putting it all back now09:37
aj_hi, could somebody please help me installing beryl09:37
stdineifzon: yeah, make sure you have the restricted modules package installed too09:37
AshexI dind't even have kde-base :/09:37
Ashex!beryl | aj_09:37
ubotuaj_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:37
eifzonstdin: (WW) NVIDIA: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found09:37
eifzonffs stdin, that was missing :D09:37
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aj_Pretty new to ubuntu, and can't find out how, I try following the install description09:37
eifzonstdin: whats commando to get those packages down?09:38
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Ashexeifzon, if you're installing the nvidia driver, make sure you install the nvidia-kernel-source and linux-restricted-modules09:38
eifzonAshex: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source and the linux-restricted-modules ?09:38
aj_I've typed ./configure in the console, and it is well, doing a lot. Then it says, in the guide: Type `make' to compile the package09:38
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stdineifzon: open konsole and copy/paste this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)09:38
Ashexeifzon, for restricted-module, use your kernel version09:38
Ashexwhat stdin said09:39
Ashex:P09:39
aj_but typing make returns something lie "nothing to do, no makefile found. Stop"09:39
stdinaj_: for god sake don't compile beryl09:39
stdinaj_: just install the packages09:39
eifzonstdin: (uname -r) shall it say that?09:39
aj_it says that I should in the INSTALL file ?09:39
aj_well, what to do then ?09:40
Ashexaj_, follow this guide: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL09:40
Ashexand use #ubuntu-effects for help09:40
stdineifzon: yeah, put $(uname -r)09:40
eifzonok :) thx09:40
eifzonbrb09:40
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AshexI hope he installed nvidia-kernel-source too09:41
Ashexotherwise he'll be back09:41
stdinAshex: you don't need the source, just the module. unless you're planning on compiling it09:41
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eifzonnothing more to fix? still cant start it =S09:43
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stdineifzon: what version of kubuntu are you on?09:43
obsethrylguys, should I deduct anything of particular importance out of shuttleworth's last open week thing regarding the future of KDE integration (ubuntu comes first, all the other projects stem out of that =>>> everything else comes second, including kde?) I am not trolling, i am asking because i feel i lack understanding of the matter.09:43
eifzonnewest, 7.0409:43
eifzonfiesty09:43
Ashexstdin, ah, I thought that installed the kernel module itself09:43
eifzoni runned ubuntu two days ago and it worked perfectly09:43
obsethrylthanks09:44
eifzonwith the drivers09:44
stdineifzon: what graphics card do you have?09:44
eifzonasus geforce 7950 gt09:44
eifzoni may get nvidia-glx-new ?09:44
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Ashexwoo, time for the moment of truth09:45
stdineifzon: try it09:45
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eifzonshall i remove old one first? :P09:46
obsethrylany pov or comment regarding my previous posts guys?09:46
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stdineifzon: yeah09:46
bobstroobsethryl: you mean that kubuntu is a bastard child?09:47
eifzonstdin: i downloaded the new one, shall i do anything else now?09:47
stdineifzon: make sure you have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed and run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" in konsole09:48
stdineifzon: then restart the X server09:48
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obsethrylbobstro: no, i cannot understand the intricacies of the statement ubuntu comes first and everything else comes out of it, i think it is meant as a pro - gnome thing09:48
obsethrylbobstro: this is why i am asking09:48
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obsethryli am a KDE user, using that in debian right now09:48
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ASmith42bWhich version of Java Virtual Machine am I running?09:49
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eifzonso wierd, stdin it wont start09:49
wargoth_hi all09:50
Ashexhmm09:50
Ashexis it possible to add a flag to the grub entry to just hide it?09:50
ASmith42bHello, wargoth_09:50
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AshexI want to hide the older kernel entry09:50
stdineifzon: look for messages starting with EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:50
eifzonok09:50
obsethrylbobstro: anything i am missing from his interviews?09:50
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wargoth_i've downloaded the latest 7.04 dvd and want to upgrade from 6.10. But the dvd isn't kubuntu. it's ubuntu. what should i do?09:51
stdinASmith42b: run "java -version" to find out09:51
eifzonstdin: (EE) No devices detected.09:51
eifzon:S09:51
stdineifzon: try reconfiguring the X server "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:51
mr_EI've got a weird thing in my trashy-binny, it tells me that there is an old folder there which can't be removed, even though the trashbin is empty..09:51
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eifzonstdin: what shall i edit there09:52
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obsethrylwargoth_: install ubuntu, then do: apt-get update, then do: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, the guys can correct me if i am wrong09:52
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stdineifzon: use the default settings, except choose the "nvidia" driver, not the "nv" one09:52
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obsethrylthe above are done as root09:52
ASmith42bstdin: Thank you.09:52
os2machaving a problem with Knetworkmanager... it shows the wire connection not the wireless one and doesn't show available networks.09:53
eifzonstdin: oke :)09:53
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wargoth_obsethryl: i'll last all my configs09:53
mr_EGet the error message: Could not read /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash//info/FOLDERNAME.trashinfo everytime I try to emtpy the trashbin now...09:53
stdinwargoth_: you know you don't need the DVD to upgrade, right?09:53
ASmith42bstdin: "java -version" only returned what packages java was in.09:54
reydelsillonHow can i use adept manager as root? so i can easily install videolan?09:54
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wargoth_stdin: sure, i just want it09:54
wargoth_stdin: ))09:54
stdinmr_E: try "sudo chown $(whoami):$(whoami) /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash//09:54
obsethrylhmm anyway i have to read better the shuttleworth postings, have fun everyone09:54
mr_Ereydelsillon: apt-get install09:55
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stdinmr_E: opps, that's "sudo chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash/"09:55
wargoth_please someone give me the sourcelist of feisty09:55
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reydelsillonmr_e: i have the adpet program. the problem is that adept does not allow me to install new programs (as VideoLAN) because im not root. How do i enable adept as root?09:56
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stdinwargoth_: it's the same as edgy or dapper, just replace all the words "dapper" (or "edgy") with "feisty"09:56
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eifzonwhoho, got it working now :))09:57
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wargoth_stdin: ok. i'll try09:57
snapOMFG!!!! i crashed my cell phone lol09:57
eifzonstdin: thank you09:57
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snapnever done that before09:57
stdinreydelsillon: it should open as root anyway, try Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu adept_manager"09:57
eifzonstdin: i wonder if i shall stick to nvidia-glx-new or the nvidia-glx09:57
mr_Eericsson09:57
snapLMAO09:57
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snapt-mobil nokia09:58
stdineifzon: whatever works I suppose, it depends what nvidia do the the drivers09:58
mr_Ereydelsillon: ....or su to another user and then sudo :)09:58
eifzonstdin: do you know whats BEST for me?09:58
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stdinmr_E: you don't sudo a GUI09:58
stdineifzon: if the -new one works, use that. it's the most up-to-date09:59
mr_Eericsson09:59
mr_Eah, sorry, to used to command :/09:59
reydelsillonstdin: i didn understand your instructions.09:59
eifzonok stdin :))09:59
benjamin_hullo everyone. i've got a question about knetworkmanager (and just network-manager in general). is there a way to run a command after connecting to a network? like they have in wifi-radar10:00
stdinreydelsillon: press Alt-F2 (to open the Run dialog) and type in "kdesu adept_manager" as the command to run (without quotes)10:00
eifzonbtw stdin, do i have to download any package to get my (Intel core 2 Duo) activated, or is it already? does it read that i got two processors?10:00
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stdineifzon: that's all handled by the kernel, and since dapper all kernels are SMP (which means it can use multiple CPUs and/or multiple cores)10:01
stdineifzon: so nothing to do there, just enjoy :)10:02
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eifzonaha, so it is loaded? :)10:02
eifzon(two) cores? :)10:02
stdinyeah10:02
eifzongoodie10:02
stdinautomatically10:02
eifzonyey!10:02
stdinlinux is good like that :)10:02
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eifzon<310:02
reydelsillonstdin: its up and go! thanks10:03
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stdin:)10:03
mr_EHow would I switch back the system language from FI to EN since it was wrongly installed during setup (not my doing though)..10:04
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stdinmr_E: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Install new Language10:05
mr_Estdin: commandline?10:05
Tm_T!fi | mr_E10:05
ubotumr_E: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi10:05
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Tm_Tstdin: he's mine10:06
mr_ETm_T: Problem is the system is in FI and I don't understand it...so I need to get EN language in it ;)10:06
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stdinTm_T: I think you just install the language pack (language-pack-en)10:06
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roguejedixDoes anyone else have problems with their DVD-RWs? Mine just sopped working with Feisty10:07
roguejedix*stopped10:07
Tm_Tmr_E: err, ok, well, as stdin said, open system settings (it's in menu)10:07
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mr_Eericsson10:07
mr_ETm_T: I don't have a GUI10:07
Tm_Tmr_E: at all? wow10:08
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mr_ENope, running pure text ;)10:08
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mr_ESo the scandinavian ,,  looks a bit funny and besides, I don't understand finnish, so that's why I need english back on it (without re-installing obviously) :)10:09
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Tm_Tmr_E: ok, let me think...10:09
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reydelsillonstdin: im following a guide: -Search for vlc and install it. You should also install vlc-plugin-esd, mozilla-plugin-vlc (and libdvdcss2). - That las lib file does noe apear on my adept manager. and it is alose set to take Universal repositories.10:10
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Tm_T!language10:10
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:10
Tm_Tagh, not that10:10
mr_E:)10:10
hellbladeI upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?10:10
mr_Eericsson10:10
Tm_Tstupid bot10:10
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beanieahhhhh whats from with kubuntu.org i want to test KDE4 :(10:10
Tm_Tmr_E: why you're mentioning your name all the time?10:10
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beanies/from/wrong10:11
Tm_Tbeanie: there's nothing to test for users, unless you like to watch crashing crashdialogs10:11
itch_Hello guys. I`ve run into a bit of troubel. I`m trying to broadcast my webcam via webcam_server. I`ve configure it, but when I try to run it, I get "bind: Address already in use" . I also run an Apache server. Any hint about what should I do? Thanks.10:11
mr_ETm_T: I don't know, not me writing it...10:11
mr_Ehonestly..10:11
WillLuongoHello! The trash can icon disappeared when I upgraded to Fiesty. How can I get it back?10:11
Tm_Tmr_E: interesting10:11
beanieTm_T: thx4info10:11
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hellbladeWillLuongo: from desktop?10:12
mr_ETm_T: To make it even more annoying; it beep's everytime my nickname is written as well ;)10:12
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WillLuongohellblade: It was on my task bar10:12
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Tm_Tsnap: good luck :)10:12
WillLuongosnap: you won't regret it. :)10:13
hellbladeWillLuongo: right click on taskbar> Add applet... > trash is there10:13
jarnAfter my upgrade to Feisty, X seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf file. Lots and lots of resolutions show in xrandr that aren't even IN my xorg.conf and it won't let me use the one I want to that IS in my xorg.conf.10:13
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roguejedixsnap: Don't forget to back your stuff up first10:13
drknshello fellas10:13
WillLuongohellblade: Thanks! That worked!10:13
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drknsi need help10:13
hellbladeWillLuongo: np;)10:13
FeistyForgejarn, that sounds wierd!10:13
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drknslast night i have spent hours to install gimp10:13
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drknsit went well and no errors come up and finished installing10:14
snapI got bleder and gimp and xara and and   the only thing I need to run in wine is Metatrader410:14
hellbladedrkns: hours? lol10:14
jarnFeistyForge: Indeed.10:14
eifzonwhats the commando to install beryl in kubuntu fiesty 7.04 +10:14
drknshowever i cannot find it anywhere it is not on the start menu under graphis10:14
snapblender10:14
hellbladeeifzon: try #ubuntu-effects10:14
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drknshellblade the latest version not the one on kubuntu10:14
snapblender has come so far in the past 3 years.......so has linux10:15
hellbladedrkns: ow sorry mate10:15
stdinreydelsillon: to install libdvdcss2 install "libdvdread3" then do "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"10:15
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drknsno problem10:15
eifzonstdin: hey10:15
roguejedixdrkns: I may be wrong, but I think only packages give you icons in the Kicker menus10:15
drknssnap linux have come along way believe me10:15
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drknsi am swithing whole company to it10:15
Eyelessis there anyway to make ktorrent eat less cpu?10:15
AshexHa! Win!10:15
hellbladedrkns: did you compile it from src on your own?10:16
Tm_Tmr_E: ok, I'll find commands to you to make it clean and simple10:16
AshexYou can upgrade from dapper to feisty without breaking the system!10:16
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drknsi have compiled on my own10:16
mr_ETm_T: It's not this machine which has the problem, it's the one @ work which is a bit messed up ;)10:16
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drknslast time i did it i have seen an icon on the kicker but not this time10:16
hellbladedrkns: where did you install it? /usr or /usr/local?10:16
mr_EThat one is Ubuntu 6.10 LTS, if that makes any difference10:16
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mr_ETm_T: I checked something from here: http://venda.uku.fi/tietotekniikka/linux/ks_cfg.shtml but didn't help at all :s10:17
hellbladedrkns: i mean could it be /usr/local/bin/gimp?10:17
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hellbladeI upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?10:18
mr_Eericsson10:18
drknslet me check10:18
snapok here goes booting my AMD 64 X2 laptop to linux   GOODBYE MISCROSOFT!!!!!10:18
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drknsit is under usr/bin10:19
drknsusr/bin/gimp10:19
stdinyeah, /usr/bin/beryl-manager10:19
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eifzonwhy cant i see my frames on my beryl? just installed it :|10:20
hellbladedrkns: have you also installed the ubuntu gimp package or just your own?10:20
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ccherretti was updating my system to fiesty through adept but I forgot to plug in my laptop and it shutdown in the middle of the update. kubuntu still boots but the update is not resuming10:20
ccherrettcan it be resumed10:21
ccherrett?10:21
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ccherrettI have tried to launch adept again but it does not try to update again10:21
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hellbladeccherrett: try "sudo aptitude update", "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"10:21
Tm_Thmh10:21
drknsi have installed the gimp 2.3 the lates version not the one comes from the repos10:22
ericssonTm_T: I've changed nickname and some settings, hopefully getting rid of that "spamming-of-own-nickname"10:22
Tm_Tericsson: can you open webpaces?10:22
Tm_Tpages even10:22
ericssonTm_T: sure, elinks makes wonders with that :)10:22
Tm_Ttrue :)10:22
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Tm_Tericsson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf10:22
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hellbladedrkns: ok. you can create a .desktop "shortcut" on your own10:22
drknshimm how am i going to do that?10:23
Tm_Tericsson: weird that I have totally forgotten how those language stuff goes in cli, it's been years since I needed those myself10:23
ccherretthellblade: a bunch of errors reading package lists10:23
drknslet me search it on the google first10:23
ericssonGUI tends to makes heads mushier :)10:23
drknsthanks10:23
hellbladedrkns: beware that because of the installation location you have chosen, that if you install the official package, it will overwrite your own10:23
drknsthanks for the heads up hellblade10:24
hellbladeccherrett: pastebin you /etc/apt/sources.list contents10:24
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drknsi used this installer program and it has chosen that directory i havent10:24
Tm_Tericsson: well, I use KDE desktop to keep multiple console open... ;)10:24
hellbladedrkns: do you need help creating the desktop file?10:24
drknsif its not a problem10:24
ccherretthellblade: ah it looks like it is all fiesty stuff now10:24
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hellbladedrkns: right click on kmenu > Menu Editor10:25
ericssonTm_T: Yeah, that works fine but you'd have to agree it's quite charming to google with elinks :)10:25
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hellbladeccherrett: can I check your sources.list pls?10:25
drknsyup keep singing man10:25
Tm_Tericsson: hehe10:25
Tm_Tericsson: got it correctly now?10:26
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hellbladedrkns: open the grphics menu10:26
ccherretthellblade: it was an ID-10-T error10:26
ericssonTm_T: Seems like this could do the trick, thank's a million mate..10:26
drknsyup10:26
ccherretthellblade: I did not have a network connection :)10:26
Tm_Tericsson: heh, it's my job to help :)10:26
ccherretthellblade: the command is working now :010:26
hellbladedrkns: right click that menu > new item10:26
hellbladeccherrett: kk have fun with feisty:)10:27
ccherretthellblade: thanks you!10:27
ccherrettthank you!10:27
hellbladedrkns: type Gimp10:27
drknsdone10:27
hellblade drkns: command: gimp10:28
ericssonTm_T: R you up for the task of explaining to me why my rsync-bakup through SSH tunnel doesn't work? :)10:28
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hellblade drkns: this should work now. you can choose an icon for that shortcut by clicking on the empty one10:28
Tm_Tericsson: rsync, never used; tunneling, never tried10:28
Tm_Tericsson: does that help? ;)10:29
ericssonTm_T: Lucky bastard :)10:29
Tm_Tdoesn't feel like that ;(10:29
ericssonThere are better things in this world to spend time on rather than trying to figure out how that works ;)10:29
drknsis it just enough to write gimp? because mine says gimp 2.3 ,        gimp console 2.3 and gimp remote10:29
drknsunder usr/bin/10:30
hellblade drkns: my shortcut uses "command: gimp-remote-2.2 " so i gues you can use "gimp-remote-2.3 " too10:31
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drknshellblade thank you very much now i have gimp 2.3.16 working i am learning kubuntu and it is far better than vista10:31
hellblade drkns: ...and at list on my system that is a link to the real gimp executable10:31
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hellblade drkns:hehe never tried vista myself10:32
ericssondrkns: you are wise :)10:32
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drknsme either heheh but it seems another multi patched multi hole thing as usual with eyecandy10:32
hellblade drkns: as long as my games run on XP i wont upgrade. btw i play only two games one of wich only under linux (city of heroes)10:33
ericssonAnyone ever tried to buy a computer with pre-installed Windows and explaining to the shopowner that you refuse to pay for Windows since you won't be using it?10:33
drknsi used to play games but hey i am wise and old c10:33
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hellblade drkns: in mycountry (greece) they charge for windows but you can always get a pc without os. some shops even give linux if you get one this way10:34
drknsnow here is another challenge10:34
gekkoohellblade: if the games require directx 10 you'll have to switch to vista i think :-)10:34
hellbladegekkoo: not if DX10 support in wine gets good enough. then I will install wine under xp:P10:34
drknshere in Turkey new pcs comes with preloaded xp etc but they are all pirated10:35
drknslinux is good10:35
drknsso far10:35
drknsi also need to see and use my second hard drive installed10:35
ericssondrkns: so how does all that windows wga crap work then? Probably not I'd guess...10:35
stdinericsson: someone got a "refund" from dell doing that10:35
gekkooinstead of pirated discs, they should come with free linuxes :-)10:35
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hellbladedrkns: lol. smaller shops pirate windows all over the world. big "chains" dont10:35
drknsindeed gekkoo10:36
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drknswho needs a windoz anyway now we have kubuntu10:36
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ericssonstdin: yeah, I read about that, but it was like a few months of fighting until they caved in and gave the guy his money...the only reason was because he did not press F8 and by that he had not "signed" a contract with MS10:36
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gekkoodrkns: people who want to play games need to use windows :-P10:37
ericssongekkoo: or grow up :)10:37
stdinericsson: it wasn't exactly a refund tho, it was a good will gesture10:37
gekkooof course10:37
ericssonThere is always Mine on linux as well ;)10:37
Tm_Tgekkoo: hmm, then why I play games in Linux10:37
drknsdont wory in the near future we will see the very same games working with linux10:37
gekkoowhen I quit playing, I switched to linux :-P10:38
stdingekkoo: there are some great opensource linux games too10:38
snapin addittion to ridding myself of windows......i get rid oof all the hacked lighwve XSI MAY 3ds stuff...........i feel so clean!10:38
Doctor_Nickhas anyone played with sdlmame on linux?10:38
hellbladegekkoo: there are many reasons to keep using windows other than games. many propriatary and specialized software is only available there:(10:38
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Doctor_NickSDLmame runs rather slow on my computer and i dont know why :/10:38
gekkoohellblade: yes, that's an important point10:38
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ericssonhellblade: One good reason to keep Windows is if you like your personal collection of gathered viruses10:38
gekkoostdin: I know, but the mainstream games only work properly on windows10:38
snapyou guys got to help me get the wireless going.....10:39
stdingekkoo: try stratagus it's a really good linux gamw10:39
drknshowabout all the patches that slows and slows down the windoz10:39
stdin!info stratagus10:39
ubotustratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB10:39
snapi understand its a pain w/ this particular laptop10:39
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hellbladeericsson: sorry for being the devil's advocate here but I have had only twice in my life a virus. I just pay attention to what I click and download ..and never used outlook (which should be "lookout virus coming" !)10:40
stdinsnap: what laptop and what wireless card/chipset ?10:40
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snapthe one im currently on had wiFi working out of the box on live cd10:40
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ericssonso you never had DoS attacks which infected your Win system?10:40
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MrWGWI don't suppose there is an easy process for upgrading to 2.6.21?10:41
MrWGWon the kernel10:41
snapstdin: its a CQ Presario V3000 with a "Dell 1390"10:41
stdinMrWGW: nope, you just have to compile and install it10:41
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hellbladeericsson: nope. i always had a software firewall running and after i got broadband my linux server/router/firewall protected my network:P10:41
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MrWGWoh its that simple?10:41
hellbladeericsson: and no antivirus10:42
snapAMD 64 x2 1.8ghz i think10:42
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ericssonhellblade: hoho, you are living on the edgy edge of the edge my friend...odds are not on your side, are they? ;)10:42
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gekkooMrWGW: it's not easy for a beginner. is there a feature which you really need on the new kernel?10:43
chad_hello all.  Noob here, just installed Kubuntu and wanted to stop in and say hi10:43
hellbladeericsson: you mean i used to... I've been using linux for anything but games for the last 3-4 years10:43
MrWGWwell I'm not a beginner10:43
MrWGWI've just never replaced kernels before10:43
MrWGWbut 2.6.21 has improved virtualization support10:43
drknshey chad10:43
ericssonchad_: Hi and welcome..10:43
hellbladechad_: wc aboard mate!10:43
chad_thanks all10:43
MrWGWhowever, my fear is that if I upgrade, I'll break the drivers, which would render this Mac Mini installed system unusable10:43
MrWGWsince it relies on mucho proprietary drivers10:43
chad_looking forward to this new adventure...getting sick of Windows10:43
MrWGWWindows is actually a good OS10:44
MrWGWIMO10:44
MrWGWXP is anyway10:44
MrWGWbut XP is also creaky and dated10:44
MrWGWVista is terrible...and OS X is pathetic10:44
MrWGWhence my replacement of it with Linux10:44
chad_I'm just tired of the all the bloat10:44
ericssonhellblade: you are as wise as your are cleaver...no need to infect your workstations with windows ever again...10:44
Daisuke_Idowindows is a good os?  what are you smoking, i want some.10:44
MrWGWXP isn't bloated IMO, actually rather minimalistic10:44
gekkooMrWGW: then just keep the old kernel, and compile the new one with make-kpkg :-)10:44
hellbladeMrWGW: don't remove your current ernel until you make sure that the new one works10:44
MrWGWright10:44
MrWGWis the new kernel in the repos or do I have to download it seperately?10:45
ericssonMrWGW: XP not bloated? There are remains from Win98 in there..10:45
drknsok fellas time to help me again10:45
snapUbuntu almost installed ill add the Kubuntu and Xbuntu after i get it all nice10:45
MrWGWleft in for backwards compatibility, which at the time was a much bigger deal than it was today10:45
stdinsnap: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=broadcom+howto10:45
MrWGWremember, when XP came out, most people were still USING 9810:45
hellbladedrkns: bring it on10:45
drknsi have installed and formatted as ext3 my second internal hardrive and want to use it but again cant find it10:45
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MrWGWsince Win2k never caught on outside of the large enterprise10:45
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gekkooMrWGW: you need to download it from kernel.org. it's not in the repos yet10:46
MrWGWok10:46
chad_guys, is there a minimum spec you want on a video card before attempting beryl?10:46
Daisuke_Idorealistically, XP SP2 was the closest MS got to getting it "right"10:46
drknsit is active by the way10:46
MrWGWand then do I do a ./configure, make and make install on it?10:46
Daisuke_Idochad_: the ability to do direct rendering10:46
demosthenes_i had some problems with the geforce 5200  :P10:46
MrWGWor what is the correct proceedure for installing it without replacing 2.6.2010:46
stdinMrWGW: no, compiling a kernel is a bit different10:47
ericssondrkns: look inside your machine :) So, seriously...try df -h and see if it's even there..10:47
stdin!kernel10:47
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:47
hellbladedrkns: do you know how it is connected to your mobo? sata or ide?10:47
stdinMrWGW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:47
orienthello10:47
orientI installed kubuntu 7.0410:47
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Daisuke_Idoorient: so did i!10:47
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Daisuke_Ido:P10:47
gekkoonice :-)10:47
MrWGWperfect10:47
Daisuke_Idocarry on10:47
maximilienyes10:47
orientI installed some packages using adept10:47
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orientand now I've got a problem10:47
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drknsit is ide10:48
MrWGWI actually used Ubuntu as the base install, and then added Kubuntu-Desktop via Synaptic10:48
MrWGWsince the Ubuntu CD is smaller10:48
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MrWGWif Xubuntu actually had mirrors for Feisty, I would've used it, as it was smaller yet10:48
orientin adept, the packages I installed are checked10:48
drknsi did df -h and only one drive is there10:48
orientand all the others are disabled10:48
maximilieni've a problem, my screen run bad with ubuntu10:48
Daisuke_Idoadept_installer10:48
Daisuke_Idonot adept_manager10:48
Daisuke_Idoi'm thinking10:48
snapstdin: bcm43x are the default drivers they apperntly wont work....i need to do the NDisswrapper  route10:48
ericssondrkns: is your drive even detected in the BIOS?10:48
hellbladedrkns: do you know its place on the cable? primary slave etc?10:48
drknshimm gnome partition editor sees it thoug10:48
snapits doable but a pain10:48
stdinorient: df only shows mounted partitions10:48
MrWGWIMO its actually a bad idea to install from the Kubuntu CD unless you're really short on HD space or have a slow internet connection10:48
orientDaisuke_Ido: what do you mean?10:48
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maximilienx10:49
snapfor me at least10:49
maximilienx6410:49
hellbladeericsson: he said he formated it to ext310:49
Daisuke_Idoorient: just keeping a record in my head10:49
maximilienswap10:49
orientI used ad/remove programs10:49
drknsin my windoz days these were two driver in raid 0 on this laptop so i believe theyare at cable select mode10:49
hellbladedrkns: which /dev/hdX is it then?10:49
drknsdrive is there in bios10:49
snapok Ubuntu is all on now...first reboot10:49
ericssonhellblade: sorry, my brain is a bit slow now, it's 'bout midnight and been staaaaring at a command line since 07:00 :)10:49
chad_i'm off to do some experimenting with the new OS....i'm sure I'll be back for help10:50
chad_take care everyone10:50
hellbladeericsson: loool10:50
ericssondrkns: Are there entries in your /etc/fstab for the drive?10:50
snapdual core 64 linux W))T!!!!!10:50
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snaperr W00T!!10:50
drknsups10:50
drknsit is dev/hdg110:50
hellbladedrkns: is it listed in fstab?10:51
ericssondrkns: that's an interesting one ;)10:51
drknslooking for it10:51
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hellbladedrkns: try "cat /etc/fstab | grep hdg"10:51
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Daisuke_Idoorient: so...  what exactly is the problem?10:52
stdinhellblade: or "grep hdg /etc/fstab" :p10:52
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orientI cannot install anymore programs10:52
drknsnope there is no entry in that file10:52
orientthey are greyed10:52
orientdisabled10:52
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orientin add/remove programs10:52
Daisuke_Idothat's odd10:52
hellbladestdin: sry I'm the cat guy:)10:52
snapwhats default user and pass? please? i never got chance to set one10:52
orientyes, indeed10:53
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snapwtf?10:53
Daisuke_Idosnap: then you didn't install ubuntu.10:53
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Daisuke_Idoit asks when you install.10:53
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Daisuke_Idoif it didn't, you screwed up10:53
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CugelIn any case: there _is_ no default.10:53
hellbladedrkns: create a mount point for it in /media(eg "sudo mkdir /media/my_partituon")10:53
Pete__any idea whats going on with the kubuntu site?10:53
CugelBut can't he use safe mode and then set a password?10:53
Daisuke_Idoi suppose it's possible10:54
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Daisuke_Idobut there's no root account10:54
hellbladedrkns: then edit /etc/fstab as root10:54
snapgrr well reboot i forgot pass.....although it was just a single space10:54
stdinDaisuke_Ido: there is in recovery mode10:54
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Daisuke_Idoand if, somehow, he actually DOESN'T have a username and password set, then i dunno what he could do at that point10:54
Daisuke_Idostdin: i stand corrected :)10:54
Daisuke_Idowell, actually, i SIT corrected, but anyway...10:55
drknshellblade what am i going to put in there?10:55
hellbladedrkns: and add this line in there "/dev/hdg1       /media/my_partituon   ext3    user,defaults           0       0"10:55
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snapi do have to admit to having a half dozen beers in me lol10:56
hellbladedrkns: save it and exit. then go to a console and run (as simple user) "mount /media/my_partition"10:56
drknsi did10:56
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hellbladedrkns: this should work10:56
Daisuke_Ido"simple user"?10:56
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hellbladeDaisuke_Ido: not root. sry but english is not my primary language10:57
Daisuke_Idoah, fair enough.  i think the term you were looking for was superuser (sudo)10:57
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chemist109no, he means unpriviledged user10:57
drkns[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab10:57
drknsmount: can't find /media/Home-2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:57
snapyeah its asking for a user and all i did was name laptop snapAMD and set "space" as a password someewhere10:57
snapits ok ill just reinstall10:57
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snapive got 5 other machines to mess with and do what i need to do,.....this just my newest10:58
stdindrkns: just ass a new line to the end of the file and save again10:58
hellbladedrkns: did you replace "my_partition" with "Home-2" after copy pasting in fstab?10:58
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ericssonIs there a current bug in feisty that crashed terminals when doing "grep -r rootpassword /var" ?10:58
ericssoncrashed* = crashes10:59
drknsmount: /dev/hdg1 already mounted or /media/Home-2 busy10:59
drknsmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdg1 is already mounted on /media/Home-210:59
galathalionhow do you check what dist u have in a terminal10:59
snapahhh ok it DID NOT LIKE THE uuppercase AMD10:59
drknsi have corrected those mistakes and now it says this10:59
snapall sett10:59
Daisuke_Idosnap: no, usernames must be all lowercase10:59
snap;) thx for the tip.....11:00
hellbladedrkns: it looks like its mounted. go in there and see if there are any files11:00
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galathalionpls?11:00
Cugeluname -a11:00
drknswhere is it i cant see it it feels stupid and i am afraid i look stupid11:00
bimberi!version11:00
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell11:00
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hellbladedrkns: from console "ls -l /media/Home-2"11:01
snapok i guess i should wire it up to make the wireless upgrade go smoother11:01
orientDaisuke_Ido: it's back to normal11:01
orientI think there were some upates available11:01
hellbladedrkns: and nope! you are not stupid. just new:P11:01
galathalionthnx11:01
orientand it didn' tlet me install anything else beforehand11:01
snapi can just sudo get what ever i need11:01
drknstotal 1611:01
drknsdrwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-04-26 03:35 lost+found11:01
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drknsthis is what comes up11:02
hellbladedrkns: or you can browse there in a file browser window11:02
drknsyup i am new11:02
drknscan i create an icon for it just like home??11:02
hellbladedrkns: ok. its mounted11:02
hellbladedrkns: you can "cd /media/Home-2", "touch a_file", "ls -l a_file"11:03
hellbladedrkns: this should list a 0byte size file11:03
Tm_Tgalathalion: cat /etc/issue11:03
Tm_Tgalathalion: in Konsole11:03
drknsbash: cd: /media/Home-2, touch: No such file or directory11:03
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drknsit gave this11:04
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hellbladedrkns: each "TEXT" is a different command11:04
Arwenmy image collection is kinda getting outta hand... anyone recommend a photo manager?11:04
hellbladedrkns: paste it without the "11:04
Daisuke_IdoArwen: digikam11:04
chemist109drkns: do this: cd /media/Home-2 && touch a_file && ls -l a_file11:05
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ArwenDaisuke_Ido, hmm.... I'm using that at the moment... can't get it to show image resolution though11:05
hellbladechemist109: that too:)11:05
Arwenany others?11:05
Daisuke_Idoah...  maybe picasa?11:05
chemist109I like picasa11:05
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Arwenhmm, no, not Picasa11:05
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drknsouch: invalid option -- l11:05
hellbladedrkns: btw where do you want the shortcut?11:06
hellbladedrkns: desktop?11:06
Daisuke_Idof-spot11:06
Daisuke_Idobout the only other one i know of with any exposure11:06
drknschemist it says i have no permission and whan i use sudo it says unknown command cd11:06
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drknsdesktop would be fine11:06
hellbladedrkns: right click on desktop > new > link to location11:06
gekkooArwen: I found kphotomanager, but I didnt try it :-)11:07
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Arwengekkoo, thanks, I'll take a look11:07
Daisuke_Idoi know in windows i was rather fond of acdsee 811:07
Daisuke_Idobut that doesn't help me much now :\11:07
hellbladedrkns: file name: anything you want, URL: /media/Home-211:07
fakepatriotcan someone tell me the difference between Qemu and Wine?11:07
Daisuke_Idogood thing i don't collect images anymore >_>11:07
Daisuke_Idofakepatriot: Qemu is an emulator, wine is a compatibility layer11:07
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chemist109drkns: does it show up under df -h11:08
drknsyep i have it now on the desktop11:08
jarnHow do I find out what version of the nvidia drivers I have installed?11:08
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Daisuke_Idomoret echnical: Qemu is for running another OS in a virtual environment, wine is for running windows applications under your current linux environment11:08
fakepatriotDaisuke_Ido:  thought Wine was an emulator11:08
stdinfakepatriot: qemu is an x86 emulator, wine is not an emulatot11:08
eifzonhow do i do to get beryl autostart when starting kubuntu?11:08
drknsyes it shows up now11:08
jarn!nvidia11:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:08
hellbladefakepatriot: qemu is much slower and i think requires a windows installation while wine is much faster but doesnt support much software11:08
Daisuke_Idonope, wine is an implementation of the win32 APIs11:08
stdinfakepatriot: Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE)11:08
drknsthak you very much fellas11:09
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drknswife calls11:09
stdin!autostart | eifzon11:09
fakepatriotstdin: i thiought wine stood for Windows Emulator11:09
drknspardon me my faboulous wife11:09
ubotueifzon: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.11:09
hellbladedrkns: bb mate11:09
drknsi sure will hellblade take care11:09
Daisuke_Idocan tell who wears the apnts in that family :D11:09
hellbladefakepatriot: wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator11:10
stdinfakepatriot: nope, check out the home page http://winehq.org11:10
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ArwenDaisuke_Ido, the apnts?11:10
drknslol11:10
drknsits me11:10
Daisuke_Idothe pants, i typed that too fast :P11:10
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chemist109Daisuke_Ido: Your pants are on the wrong legs!11:10
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Daisuke_Idochemist109: i feel like kris kross :\11:10
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chemist109Daisuke_Ido: :)11:11
ericssonHow would I close down ports, one by one?11:11
hellbladeI upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?11:11
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fakepatriotstdin: so what would you recommend i do? i want to use either one for games and photoshop.11:12
SmL9how can i modify files on a windows hd from linux?11:12
hellbladeericsson: the right direction is to close down everything and then open ports one by one11:12
stdinericsson: kill the app that's listening on the port11:12
Daisuke_Idogames and photoshop?  forget qemu11:12
calilasseiaHello ... I have a minor problem ...11:12
gekkoooh, as hellblade mentioned that effect, how can I disable that? :-)11:12
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ericssonhellblade: I only have three ports I want to close11:12
chemist109fakepatriot: Use Cedega for games11:12
Daisuke_Idono 3d with qemu11:12
calilasseiaI can mount floppies in the command shell, but Konqueror doesn't want to know ....11:13
ericssonstdin: The apps are running on new ports, but the old ports are still open (for some reason)11:13
ArwenSmL9, with ntfs-3g11:13
fakepatriotchemist109: i tried but i can't get the cvs version to install...11:13
Daisuke_Ido!ntfs | SmL911:13
ubotuSmL9: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:13
stdinfakepatriot: try wine first, if that doesn't work then you'll need an emulator (virtual machine) which needs a full install of windows11:13
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hellbladeericsson: i'm not that good with iptables so i cant help you. but there are GUI firewall programs that might be what you need11:13
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chemist109fakepatriot: I use the ($5/month) packaged version.  It's worth it for the few Windows games that I play11:14
ericssonhellblade: haven't got GUI though..11:14
calilasseiaCan someone tell me why the command shell mounts floppies succesfully but Konqueror doesn't?11:14
Daisuke_Idobleh, installing f-spot installs half of gnome with it :\11:14
ericssonAnyway ppl, I'm off for some Zzz's, take care all...11:14
hellbladeericsson: you dont have a desktop enviroment or a firewall gui?11:15
fakepatriotstdin: ok thanks for the help :)11:15
calilasseiaThe weird part is it mounts my hard drives no problem .... just won't work with floppies ....11:15
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, well, I already have GNOME :-)11:15
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Arwenthe mono is what annoys me11:15
fakepatriotchemist109: ill consider it...thanks11:15
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Daisuke_IdoArwen: i was talking about me :P11:15
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ericssonhellblade: nope, just command line11:15
hellbladeericsson: then do some googling for iptables11:15
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, hehe, it's ok... tries to force you to use it's directory structure11:16
Arwenand its tagging sucks11:16
ericssonhellblade: been doing that, no joy..but I'll give it a new try tomorrow, thank's for the help anyway mate...nighty night11:16
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hellbladeericsson: gnite man11:16
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hellbladeis there any kubuntu developer in here?11:18
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stdinhellblade: ask in #kubuntu-devel11:20
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jhutchins_wkAh crud.  Distribution upgrade hangs on source file 41 of 44.11:21
chemist109hellblade:  look here ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and set VisualActivate=1 (under the [KDE]  section) You will probably have to log out and back in.11:21
crackhead_25question: anyone know why my edgy/kde is not working so well... when the screensaver goes on by itself, after idleness, and i have the option to lock afte 60 seconds, the screensaver never does! if one moves the mouse, the screensaver just stops, and the session is right there again...11:21
crackhead_25*option selected11:22
hellbladechemist109: gonna try that right now11:22
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crackhead_25chemist109: any thoughts on my question?11:23
chemist109crackhead_25: Nope, I don't know.  You could try using ctrl-alt-L to lock the session whenever you leave the desk.11:24
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Daisuke_Idofigures, where's arwen when you need him or her11:28
Daisuke_Idofound the setting in digikam to do exactly what he was looking for11:28
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hellbladechemist109: the setting in kdeglobals did the job! thanks mate11:29
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chemist109hellblade: No problem! Glad it worked!11:30
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hellbladechemist109: i've been looking for that for the last 5 days:)11:30
calilasseiaOK, still having problems mounting floppies in Konqueror ... anyone care to help?11:31
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NetSKaVeNhell-o!11:31
hellbladecalilasseia: i dont have a floppy on my pc but anywayz how did you try to mount it from konqy?11:31
jmreyenhillup11:31
hellbladehya11:32
chemist109hellblade: I'm glad that fixed it.  Now, go help someone else install Kubuntu!11:32
calilasseiaWhen Konqueror starts up it has a link to "media:/" ... click that and you get a page of icons for devices ....11:32
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NetSKaVeNanyone using feisty's konversation?11:32
calilasseiaIf I click on an icon for one of my hard drives, it mounts no problem ....11:32
chemist109NetSKaVeN: I'm using it right now.11:32
Cugelnet: yes, I am.11:32
hellbladechemist109: i have already converted one:) i even setup his network and beryl stuff11:32
calilasseiaBut if I click on the floppy icon, it comes up with a blank page ....11:33
chemist109hellblade: Good work!11:33
calilasseiaRefresh the page and it says "/dev/fd0 already mounted"11:33
NetSKaVeNdoes cursor up work for you in konversation?11:33
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CugelYes.11:33
chemist109NetSKaVeN: I'm using it right now. (yup)11:33
NetSKaVeNI have a problem then  :P11:33
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calilasseiaI checked fstab and the mount line for the floppy drive looks OK ...11:34
calilasseiaAnd what's even weirder is that I can mount the floppy in a terminal and read/write to it no problem ...11:34
hellbladecalilasseia: is there a directory "/media/floppy" on your system? anything in there?11:34
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calilasseiaAh that could be it ...11:35
calilasseiaMy icon is labelled "floppy0" ....11:35
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calilasseiaHang on I'll rename it and see what happens ....11:35
hellbladecalilasseia: not sure if thats a problem11:35
CugelDon't just rename it.11:35
CugelMake it point to the right location.11:35
slow-motionhallo11:36
calilasseiaWell it's pointing to the right device - /dev/fd0 ....11:36
hellbladecalilasseia: yap. what comand do you use from konsole?11:36
jhutchins_wkDoesn't seem to be able to get edgy security Release.gpg.11:36
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calilasseiaIn a terminal I use "mount /dev/fd0" and it works ....11:36
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hellbladejhutchins_wk: try changing your mirrors to another location. eg de or gb11:37
hellbladecalilasseia: and where does that mount it?11:37
jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: Do you do that as a user or as root?11:37
calilasseiamounts it to /media/floppy011:37
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calilasseiado it as a user not root ....11:38
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calilasseiafstab mount line is set for user permissions on floppy device ....11:38
hellbladecalilasseia: can you make sure the floppy is not mounted and retry the konqy way?11:39
calilasseiafstab line looks like this:11:39
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calilasseiaOK trying now ....11:39
jhutchins_wkCrud.  I can access the key with html...11:39
calilasseiaRight, floppy is unmounted ...11:40
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jhutchins_wkOk, here we go into the updater, file 37 of 41...11:40
calilasseiaClick on the icon, and again, page is blank ... no files appear ...11:40
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jhutchins_wk3811:40
hellbladecalilasseia: do you get the "already mounted" msg again?11:40
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hommi-33are you really still using floppy disks? omg11:41
calilasseia"Already mounted" message appears if I refresh the page ....11:41
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CugelI ditched the floppy drive. That does help.11:41
calilasseiaHeh some of us have legacy data to transfer to more modern media :)11:41
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jhutchins_wk41 - his is where it hung last time.11:42
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hellbladecalilasseia: hmmm i have no idea. but do you use floppy frequantly enough so that manualy mounting it is a problem?11:42
calilasseiaWell the problem is I can't browse the floppy in Konqueror, but Konqueror lets me browse my hard drives and CD writer no problem ...11:42
jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: What happens if you right click the icon (when the floppy's unmounted)?11:42
calilasseiaAh hang on ....11:42
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jhutchins_wk...still on 41...11:43
hellbladecalilasseia: manualy mount the floppy and then browse in the /media mount point from konqy11:43
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calilasseiaI get a menu when I right click ....11:43
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jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: Does it offer "mount"?11:44
calilasseiaYes ...11:44
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calilasseiaI select mount and the dialogue box pops up saying "Mounting ..."11:45
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Intangirhow do i get k3b to create audio CDs from mp3 source files?11:45
calilasseiaBut then when I hover over the icon it says the floppy isn't mounted ....11:45
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YorokobiIntangir, the source audio needs to be .wav files (unless the process has changed recently).11:46
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chemist109Intangir: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp311:46
Intangirthx11:46
calilasseiaThe details in the Konqueror address bar are a bit weird too ....11:46
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calilasseiaWhen I click on the icon it says "media:/fd0"11:47
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AloneaOk, I have an mp4 file with some x264 encoding. It takes a bit of work to get it to play in Mplayer, and that is the only player so far that will play it, but it isn't reading the file correctly. For the last 15 minutes the sound is completely off track and if I try to fast  forward during that portion it just skips back to the beginning of the video. The people on windows can play the file...11:47
Alonea...perfectly. How do I play it perfectly?11:47
calilasseiaWeird part is is I open a new tab and point it at "/media/floppy0" my files appear ...11:47
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calilasseiaSo I'm starting to think I need to change something in Konqueror to get it to point to the right place when I click the icon ...11:48
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chemist109Alonea: Did you try using VLC?  It's a good player for quirky files.11:48
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calilasseiaAre there configuration files for Konqueror that allow me to edit these details?11:49
Aloneachemist109: don't have VLC. Can I get it from adept or do I have to compile myself?11:49
jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: symlink.  media:/fd0 and media:/floppy0 point to the same /dev/11:49
jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: Usually /dev/fd0 and /dev/floppy (or floppy0) are linked as well.11:49
chemist109Alonea: sudo apt-get install vlc should do it.11:50
jhutchins_wkcalilasseia: You can explore the /dev tree to see what device it "really" is.11:50
hellbladecalilasseia: nope. the media:/ is something more complicated than just a shortcut to your mount point11:50
orazioitalia11:50
Yorokobi!it | orazio11:50
ubotuorazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:50
calilasseiaAh right ...11:50
hellbladecalilasseia: but you might be able to browse to /media and then right click floppy and mount it11:51
oraziocht ita11:51
calilasseiaHmm this is weird ... "media:/floppy0" returns "Malfformed URL"11:51
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tshaby.11:52
calilasseiaIs there any way I can delete that icon and replace it with one that contains the correct mount point information?11:52
tshaby:)11:52
hellbladecalilasseia: media:/ uses /dev/xxx (devices) while /media/XXXXXX is the mount point11:52
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hellbladecalilasseia: no11:52
tshabyhy all linux user :)11:52
calilasseiaBugger ...11:52
calilasseiaMeans I'm stuck with trying to create a workaround ....11:52
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jhutchins_wkStrange, we are now 40 of 43.11:53
calilasseiaThat's the weird part ... doing ls /dev/fd0 in a terminal lists the files ...11:53
hellbladecalilasseia: i would suggest you to post a bug report in launchpad (is this the right place for kubuntu bugs?) or the kubuntuforums.net11:53
jhutchins_wkAh, good old windows 98 style dynamic hardare configuration - never boot the same system twice!11:53
calilasseiaHmm ...11:53
calilasseiaMight give that a try then ....11:54
jhutchins_wkNow we're back to 41 of 44.11:54
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jhutchins_wkI think I'll close everythign and leave the upgrader running.11:54
hellbladecalilasseia: that could help you solve your problem and anyone else for that matter11:54
calilasseiaKubuntu forums here I come then :)11:54
calilasseiaEr, would getting the latest upgrade potentially cure this?11:55
tshabyvan itt magyar? :)11:55
calilasseiaOnly my OS is in need of an update ....11:55
hellbladecalilasseia: if you use feisty there is nothing newer, not yet11:55
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jhutchins_wklater folks.11:55
calilasseiaStill running dear old Dapper :)11:55
hellbladebb11:55
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hellbladecalilasseia: omg:) one of my roommates uses dapper because of the stability it offers11:56
calilasseiaAnd I had all manner of fun and games getting that to work with a creaky old Radeon graphics card ...11:56
calilasseiaBut that's a LONG story :)11:56
aroo!info kxsldbg11:57
ubotukxsldbg: graphical XSLT debugger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 595 kB, installed size 1576 kB11:57
hellbladecalilasseia: i think you cant upgrade directly from dapper to feisty. i'd advise you to install from scratch after backing up you confs11:57
Aloneachemist109: VLC plays it perfectly. yay!11:58
calilasseiaOh I was simply thinking of getting the latest Dapper upgrades ...11:58
jthomasdoes anyone know how to 'fix' bash sh that, if I run 'df' and keep running it by using the Up Arrow, that I would only have to hit Up Arrow twice to get to the previous command?  Currently it keeps each itieration of the same command as its own, so i have to Up Arrow through 'df' a dozen times (df is an example, but whatever command I choose)11:58
calilasseiaThink it's a bit early for me to launch into the world of Feisty just yet ....12:00
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chemist109calilasseia: I'm on feisty-- I really like it.12:00
jthomaschemist109:12:00
chemist109The only issue I have is that I can't hear sound preview by hovering over the files in konqueror.12:01
jthomaschemist109: do you feel its as stable?  i've had a ton of crashing going on...12:01
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calilasseiaOK, I created a desktop icon link for the floppy drive ... click on that and hey presto it mounts, opens Konqueror, points Konqueror at the correct place, displays my files ... :)12:01
chemist109I've been running it since the late beta.  It's worked fine for me.12:01
calilasseiaNot only that but OpenOffice opens old Word 97 documents too !!!!12:01
jthomaschemist109: yes my work computer has herd5 and its infinitly more stable than my home install...12:02
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traampaaHello. I has a problem. When i using Adept packet manager and after it i run program like Amarok or other, they loading, loading and hiding from me. But when i restart computer i see them in the traybar. Wtf is this? Is it bug? Please help. I whant to stay in kubuntu..12:02
fignewcalilasseia: I'm running dapper on one of me desktops... it rocks :) 160 day uptime now12:03
calilasseiaOh just got a message - 73 updatable packages ...12:03
calilasseiaHave to bug out of here and update ... bye :)12:03
hellbladebb12:03
czer323What's the best way to run a program at startup?12:04
hellbladetraampaa: when you close your pc open apps are saved in your session which is loaded next time you boot12:04
czer323Not just a session, but at the kdm12:04
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chemist109czer323: add it to /etc/rc.local12:05
jthomasczer323: put it in your /home/czer/.autostart directory12:05
jthomasor /home/czer/.kde/Autostart maybe, or listen to chemist10912:05
czer323putting it in the home, would just be starting at the session, right?12:05
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jthomasok i am off, see yas!12:05
hellbladeyeah12:05
czer323i think /etc/rc.local sounds better.12:05
hellbladebye12:05
traampaa<hellblade> No! i mean i run program. but i can use it when i restart computer. And its not good for me. And its happend when i start Adept.12:06
ko12uptwrong channel12:06
ko12uptlol12:06
czer323chemist109: just add a symbolic link?12:06
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chemist109czer323: No, put it into the /etc/rc.local file12:06
czer323nm, editing the file now.12:06
hellbladetraampaa: rephrase please. i dont understand what is your problem12:06
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hellbladetraampaa: tell me the steps to reproduce it12:07
czer323chemist109: thanks ;)  Restarting and we'll see if this works.  I just installed synergy and set it up so that i can use one keyboard for multiple computer displays in front of me, from different computers.12:07
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czer323!synergy12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
chemist109czer323: A friend of mine just told me about synergy today.12:08
rvdArh, how do I get amarok to function with my MP3 player?? It mounts perfectly with the deamons, but i don't know the Amarok configuration :(12:08
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chemist109He's using it on a few windows machines12:08
hellbladesounds nice!12:08
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czer323chemist109: i'm using it on a windows machine and a linux machien both.  it's awesome so far.  it SYNERGIZED THEM12:09
traampaa<hellblade> Okey. I start for egz. Amarok. I see in panel that he is loading. He loading and then and dont see them panel or in traybar. But when i restart system i see them in traybar and can use him.12:09
traampaa<traampaa>12:09
traampaa<traampaa> Understand?12:09
traampaa<hellblade> Understand? :)12:09
hellbladehellblade: yes. sounds strange. does that happen with all programs?12:10
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hellbladetraampaa it is12:11
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zoohousemy screen ress is like 600 something by something. What app can I use to add a higher res? Thanks12:11
ko12uptim using ubuntu but their channel is very busy im trying to get my wireless network to be placed into the network section i see wired and modem but not wireless12:11
fadingblackcan soemone tell me what the delete command is in terminal?12:12
traampaa hellblade hmm. Its happen mostly when i run Adept or Add/remove package manager..12:12
hellbladeis there any way in konversation to click on a name and add that name in text input like "name_i_clicked: "?12:12
zoohousefadingblack: rm12:12
alejandrohello somebody can to helpme how to enabled direct rendering for ati's12:12
fadingblackok thanks12:12
zoohousefadingblack: try $whatis rm12:12
zoohousejust to make sure12:12
hellbladefadingblack: if you want to delete directory with all its contents try rm -r12:13
zoohousewhat is the command to run the xserver config?12:13
fadingblackzoohouse: thanks12:13
zoohousenp12:13
fadingblackhellblade: thanks12:13
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hellblade!ati12:14
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:14
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