[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> FX series wasn't exactly happy
[12:14] <wolferine> bobbyd, man rm
[12:14] <wolferine> then read it
[12:14] <franzmaximilian> bobstro: that's what i suspected....  not worth the effort
[12:14] <wolferine> so you understand something about linux, other than how to connect to irc :)
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> How do you actually enable Beryl? I got the packages, but I can't find where to actually turn it on
[12:14] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, Gnome?
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> KDE
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, found my neil young cds.  time to rip :D
[12:15] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, you can start the beryl-manager on boot
[12:15] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- damn you, I can't find the CD's I need to re-rip
[12:15] <franzmaximilian> yeti: any experience with an AMD kernel on an old Duron machine?  Any noticeable improvement?
[12:15] <wolferine> then you will find an icon near your clock...
[12:15] <bobstro> franzmaximilian: yeah, i'm happy it does KDE well enough, but the extra eyecandy is pushing it. esp. with 256MB ram.
[12:15] <fico> proba
[12:15] <bobleny> wolferine: How do I clean "/temp"?
[12:15] <wolferine> or just start the beryl-manager from cli
[12:15] <wolferine> bobleny, in man rm
[12:15] <wolferine> read it
[12:15] <wolferine> learn
[12:15] <wolferine> self-educate
[12:16] <bobstro> franzmaximilian: if it's a dog with kde or gnome, try xubuntu perhaps
[12:16] <bobstro> bobleny: /temp or /tmp?
[12:16] <wolferine> bobstro, he really needs to learn to do stuff on his own
[12:16] <franzmaximilian> bobstro: irt runs decently with kde
[12:16] <wolferine> to be honest
[12:16] <Phton> whats extra in Kubuntu DVD?
[12:16] <bobstro> wolferine: i agree, but the difference might be significant!
[12:17] <bobleny> wolferine: "rm" short for remove. rm [directory]  [file] 
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> that's one thing that's always bothered me.  no, linux isn't just for smart people (as has been suggested), but it is for those that are willing to do a little reading and learn some things
[12:17] <Dragnslcr> wolferine- is ~/.kde/Autostart good enough, or do I actually have to put it in init.d?
[12:17] <wolferine> bobleny, man rm
[12:17] <bobleny> wolferine: What more do I need to know about rm?
[12:17] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, im not sure
[12:17] <bobstro> wolferine: i'm just wondering why it's not clearing at boot if /tmp?
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: you're fine with autostart
[12:17] <wolferine> bobstro, its not setup that way
[12:17] <Phton> whats extra in Kubuntu DVD?
[12:17] <bobstro> what else do you need to know about a loaded gun? :)
[12:18] <wolferine> Phton, google it
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> extra packages that wouldn't fit on the cd
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> smoke break!
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- can I just symlink to the executable?
[12:19] <oofus> Hi all. Can anybody tell me how to enable Compiz or Beryl in Kubuntu 7.04. Or at least point me to info on how to do it. Thanks.
[12:19] <Phton> The DVD has the whole main repository and has ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[12:19] <Eruantalon> !beryl
[12:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:20] <danish> how can i play wmv files on kubuntu
[12:21] <oofus> thank you
[12:21] <yeti> !wmv
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <david__> Okay thanks everybody.  I was able to set the thing to log in to KDE.
[12:21] <Phton> !rm
[12:21] <yeti> danish: please read the first link that ubotu provided
[12:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:22] <Phton> !ram
[12:22] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[12:22] <david__> Is there a way I can switch the login screen to G instead of K tho?
[12:22] <Phton> !real media
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <cps1966> !rm
[12:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:24] <cps1966> !codecs
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <Toyd> !ati
[12:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <Toyd> !beryl
[12:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:24] <Toyd> !aiglx
[12:24] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[12:24] <Toyd> !beryl wiki
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl wiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Toyd> !botabuse
[12:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:25] <Toyd> :O
[12:25] <Toyd> thanks ubotu
[12:25] <Toyd> !richard stallman
[12:25] <Toyd> richard stallman made it all possible
[12:25] <Toyd> uboto
[12:26] <Toyd> ubotu
[12:26] <Toyd> you should know about him
[12:26] <Toyd> its disrespectfull not to know
[12:26] <Toyd> about him
[12:27] <danish> ok i read the guid on wiki beryl buts its for ubuntu and settings are on gnome can any body tell me of kubuntu beryl
[12:27] <david__> Ubotu, you're the best!
[12:27] <graft> kubuntu beryl is an exciting character
[12:27] <david__> I want to make sweet sweet love to you, Ubotu!
[12:27] <graft> danish: just run beryl-manager when you start up... works for me
[12:27] <Toyd> danish,  i have the same problem
[12:28] <ian__> is beryl any good?
[12:28] <Toyd> graft,  that was like a windows answer to a linux problem :P
[12:29] <graft> Toyd: uh... no, that was a linux answer
[12:29] <Toyd> thats like saying i clicked next next and it worked for me
[12:30] <Toyd> i mean it might work for you and you alone
[12:31] <graft> Toyd: that's the only way i know of to do it
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: the proper anwser is actually to put beryl-manager in the autostart, it's not a windows answer
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> Toyd- from what I've been told, you can just link to /usr/bin/beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i rest my case
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> I haven't tried it yet though
[12:31] <graft> i stand vindicated
[12:31] <Toyd> why isnt this documented???!?!?
[12:31] <graft> it's all over the net, hermano
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> I will admit, it'd be nice if the settings program had a checkbox to do it for you
[12:32] <graft> beryl isn't integrated into kde yet
[12:32] <Toyd> no because i have the same problem as danish  the wiki are all for gnome and not kde
[12:32] <graft> and probably won't be
[12:32] <graft> so it's hackish by nature
[12:32] <Toyd> its confusing
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> It's the simple things like that that get annoying
[12:32] <graft> yeh... kubuntu is like the bastard child of ubuntu
[12:32] <graft> you get the leftover rotten vegetables
[12:32] <Toyd> lol
[12:32] <graft> hand-me-down clothes, etc.
[12:33] <Dragnslcr> My current biggest annoyance is having to set every window that pops up to remember size and position
[12:33] <Toyd> but kde is so much better than gnome
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: that's purely a matter of opinion
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> though i happen to agree
[12:33] <graft> obviously we all think that, since we're here in #kubuntu
[12:34] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido,  gnome doesnt have amarok for example the best music player in the world
[12:34] <graft> but kde has serious problems that gnome does not... like the fact that they don't know a damn thing about interface design
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> I'm in #ubuntu too...
[12:34] <shydog> need some help with scanner
[12:34] <graft> yeah, but you're running KDE, ain't ya, Dragnslcr ?
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> Well yeah
[12:34] <graft> you're only in #ubuntu cuz kubuntu is the bastard child and the support here is not as good
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> I haven't looked at Gnome in years
[12:34] <Toyd> lol graft
[12:35] <graft> at least that's why i usually end up in #ubuntu
[12:35] <Toyd> hmz well if nalioth is here
[12:35] <Toyd> i dont have to go to ubuntu
[12:35] <Toyd> some knowledgeable people here
[12:35] <graft> yeah, i'm not maligning this channel really, there are some knowledgable people here
[12:36] <graft> but ubuntu is primarily a gnome project
[12:36] <graft> and that's what's pushed heavily
[12:36] <shydog> can anybody help me with installing my scanner
[12:36] <graft> so naturally most of the users and most of the support is directed there
[12:36] <Toyd> well thats should be the case gnome is just the gui
[12:36] <graft> shydog: did you do that xsane dealy?
[12:37] <danish> toyd: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[12:37] <Toyd> i tried to set up beryl on ubuntu and had plenty of help still wouldnt work
[12:37] <LjL> !automatix
[12:37] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:37] <Toyd> lol
[12:37] <danish> toyd: for some reason on ubuntu it flickers and exits back to gnome
[12:37] <_Neil> sometimes, rhythmbox just disappears. Anyone know why this could be, or how to diagnose the problem?
[12:37] <theamazingpotato> hello
[12:38] <stephane> bonsoir  tous !
[12:38] <Toyd> danish i tried a preconfigured ubuntu+beryl its called uberyl and that worked for me
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !fr | stephane
[12:38] <ubotu> stephane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:38] <shydog> downloaded driver and is recognized by usb , but when try and scan something, it will not let me
[12:38] <danish> toyd: i don't like ubuntu my favorite apps are in kde
[12:38] <Toyd> yeah
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !worksforme
[12:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:38] <Toyd> i think it uses kubuntu danish
[12:38] <Toyd> it has kde
[12:39] <danish> toyd whree did u get it from
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> can someone help me
[12:39] <graft> shydog: scanning with what?
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> im having problem with the sound
[12:39] <shydog> HP4370
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> its so low
[12:39] <graft> shydog: what software, i mean?
[12:39] <Dragnslcr> theamazingpotato- check the mixer settings in KMix and/or alsamixer
[12:39] <shydog> sane sight says driver for 3900 will work
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> ill try that
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> Yay! I crashed Amarok!
[12:40] <shydog> openoffice
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i've found it hard to crash amarok lately
[12:40] <graft> shydog: try kooka
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> used to be, if i looked at it wrong, kablooie!
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> I tried adding .mp3 files to a playlist
[12:40] <shydog> ok
[12:41] <graft> hm i can almost always get it to crash by using the 'undo' function
[12:41] <theamazingpotato> nope
[12:41] <theamazingpotato> wont help
[12:41] <shydog> be back if doesn't work, thanks for your help
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, it was usually a crash related to the scope of my collection :\
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> probably work faster if i used mysql as the backend rather than sqlite
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, think I just had to restart it after installing libxine-ffmpeg
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> going to need a bigger hard drive for music :\
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> Is there a way to make all windows use detailed view?
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> KDE seems to not do global window settings very well
[12:44] <jordo23_> I have a link to a mounted HD on my desktop. When I open it with Konq, it won't give me the option to create folders and stuff.....it says the drive is owned by me too......any ideas?
[12:44] <Skyblast> Dragnslcr: set it to the view mode you want then go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management"
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> Skyblast- yeah, I just thought of that
[12:45] <Toyd> so is there any bsd software i can use on linux???
[12:45] <dug> is there a way to keep the open applications in the taskbar dependant on which desktop your viewing?
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> Is there a decent GUI tool for mounting smb shares?
[12:45] <theamazingpotato> my card is HDA Intel
[12:45] <Toyd> dug???
[12:45] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Umm... why do you need one?
[12:45] <Toyd> elaborate
[12:45] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: All it takes it one line.
[12:46] <theamazingpotato> and the chip is  Realtek ALC861
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- I'm attempting a "newbie" experience with Kubuntu. That way I can help friends with it
[12:46] <dug> what im getting at is the running applications that switch between under this bar
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> Trying to use the shell as little as possible
[12:47] <danish> what simple do guys recommend for a begginner gnu c99 learner
[12:47] <dug> is there a way to make it so that only whats on the desktop im using contains these instead of all desktops displaying all programs?
[12:47] <Skyblast> dug: Click on the leftpart of the taskbar where it starts showing your applications and click Configure Taskbar. Uncheck "Show windows from all Desktops"
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: the one line is in konqueror
[12:47] <Toyd> Dragnslcr, lets start a new distro
[12:47] <danish> what simple *IDE
[12:47] <dug> ah thanks sky
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> smb:/<share>
[12:47] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido,  you want in aswell
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, i like the cli
[12:47] <Toyd> compilerwriter,  you want to joij
[12:47] <Toyd> join*
[12:47] <Toyd> danish, Skyblast
[12:47] <dug> your a life saver
[12:47] <Toyd> lets start a new distro
[12:47] <Toyd> :P
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- yeah, but that requires a password every time
[12:48] <Toyd> eMaX, you want in
[12:48] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: K Menu > System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems
[12:48] <Skyblast> Why? I love my Kubuntu. :)
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: no it doesn't :)  sudo -s
[12:48] <compilerwriter> toyd join what?
[12:48] <Toyd> my new distro
[12:48] <comodo> can anyone tell me how to extract the files out of an iso
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- heh, meant the password to the share
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[12:48] <danish> toyd, skyblast lol funny name but i'll look it up
[12:48] <compilerwriter> What sort of distro are you working on?
[12:48] <Ashex> what's the command to add a user to a group?
[12:49] <Toyd> my new system will be able to run osx apps windows apps do directx10 games and linux
[12:49] <Toyd> it will also play xbox360 and ps3 games
[12:49] <Skyblast> Will it be my wife as well? :P
[12:49] <Toyd> and of course you can attach a wii mote and play wii games
[12:49] <Toyd> :P
[12:50] <doug_> so... Konversation has coloured nicks?
[12:50] <Skyblast> I'd also like an Emergency Medical Holigram, like the one on Voyager hehe
[12:50] <theamazingpotato> ya but theres a program that makes the wiimote work with pc
[12:50] <Toyd> i arent supposed to tell you guys this but
[12:50] <Toyd> but i am using a special app
[12:50] <Toyd> to talk to people in the past i am from the future
[12:50] <doug_> SWEET JESUS
[12:50] <doug_> that would be worth millions
[12:51] <Skyblast> Are alien chicks hawt in the future?
[12:51] <Toyd> lol
[12:51] <doug_> it must be true... because no one lies on the internet
[12:51] <doug_> LOL
[12:51] <Toyd> lol
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> comodo: Use the mount command with the loop option
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> !mountiso
[12:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:52] <Skyblast> hmm, while I'm here, does anyone know why K Torrent is so very bad at staying connected to peers?
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> comodo: then just look in the directory created, and cp to whereever you want them after that.
[12:52] <Skyblast> It downloads and uploads in spurts
[12:53] <Skyblast> And yes, I put my forwarded port in
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Ashex: sudo adduser theusername thegroupname
[12:54] <Toyd> what would you do if you only had 3 years left to live?
[12:54] <intelikey> well after testing (actually revisiting) mdk's urpmi i can see why i never had any rtubble with it   unlike apt it simply refuses to remove anything marked as needed.
[12:54] <intelikey> removing package basesystem-10.0-0.2mdk.i586 will break your system
[12:54] <intelikey> Nothing to remove
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Toyd: I'd probably ask silly questions in #kubuntu-offtopic instead of disturbing help channels, if you get my drift ;)
[12:55] <Alarm> what settings should i change so that the menus wont look like buttons as here: http://www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot1.png
[12:55] <Alarm> i changed some styles and window decorations but somehow i cant find. and its the same in every application
[12:55] <red22> tough question
[12:56] <intelikey> toyd that's possably the most profound question that has been asked in here to date.
[12:56] <compilerwriter> intelikey you are here.
[12:56] <Toyd> lol
[12:56] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- using the disk manager to mount smb shares seems to be rather broken
[12:56] <compilerwriter> intelikey do you have any clue what in hell is going on with the Monitor & Display Module?
[12:57] <intelikey> compilerwriter no.    i really not ~
[12:57] <danish> toyd automatix has some cool stuff
[12:57] <red22> makes me feel ashamed i'm only here to ask about a silly computer program hehe
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- entering all the details and clicking OK seems to do nothing, and trying to scan for shares drops me out of admin mode
[12:57] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Yeah it's shit, although it takes 20 seconds to add something to the /etc/fstab file.
[12:57] <Toyd> tonyyarusso, i thought we decided that when people have real issue on kubuntu they end up in #ubuntu
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> Hm, maybe I just have to wait longer
[12:57] <intelikey> compilerwriter actually no.    all joking aside.   i have never seen edgy to feisty
[12:57] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Or, try pressing "mount" :)
[12:57] <intelikey> s/to/or/
[12:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: since when is it up to you to decide things like that?
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- the only buttons on the dialog are OK and Cancel
[12:58] <red22> my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?
[12:58] <Toyd> its open source no one is the boss we share leadership in here
[12:59] <compilerwriter> intelikey I get the message that an error occured during an upgrade orphaning a module or there are third party modules lying about.  How would I look for those?
[12:59] <Toyd> we all have the freedom to change
[12:59] <Toyd> things
[12:59] <Toyd> thats what linux is all about
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> this is irc
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> Well, more about sharing source than leadership and decision making.  A lot of that too, but it's not a free for all.
[01:00] <intelikey> compilerwriter deborphan maybe ?     or debfoster    idk.
[01:00] <intelikey> compilerwriter the package manager might have a trick up it's sleeve   did you look there ?
[01:00] <Toyd> linus torvalds is a relative of mine
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> good for you
[01:01] <Skyblast> Maybe we should add an anti-annoying clause to the GPL :P
[01:01] <compilerwriter> The package manager intelikey?  Now I am lost
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Skyblast: RMS would have to renounce the GPL if that happened
[01:01] <compilerwriter> intelikey deborphan did nothing
[01:01] <compilerwriter> neither did debfoster
[01:02] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido, rms is my pal
[01:02] <intelikey> toyd    i offically abdocate.   you may now rule supreeme as the  offtopic/monolog  king.
[01:02] <Toyd> me and rms went to India once and just danced and watched bollywood movies
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: don't care, don't care, don't care.
[01:02] <intelikey> compilerwriter that only leaves the package manager
[01:02] <jaevel> anyone know if there is a list of firmware for dvd roms that dont work with ubuntu????
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to wax random, do it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:03] <jaevel> mostly the NEC type?
[01:03] <theamazingpotato> i checked alsamixer
[01:03] <compilerwriter> intelikey dpkg
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a help channel, and you're no help.
[01:03] <intelikey> compilerwriter synaptic  or  adept
[01:03] <intelikey> compilerwriter possabley aptatude
[01:03] <Toyd> http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armystoryim9.jpg
[01:04] <compilerwriter> Well somehow adept got locked up on me and I had to do the thing to unlock it.
[01:04] <red22> my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?
[01:04] <intelikey> oooh yuch   "the thing" to unlock it....
[01:06] <compilerwriter> intelikey I had to go to help site and follow that procedure.  I have no clue exactly what I did, but that seemed to fix the adept thing.  I answered yes to all the new stuff figuring it had somehow partially crapped out in the feisty upgrade.
[01:06] <Toyd> ubotu spammed me: ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:07] <intelikey> random yes's in the processes......
[01:07] <intelikey> i think this was a bad idea ?
[01:07] <intelikey> removing module-init-tools-3.0-1mdk.i586
[01:07] <intelikey> modprobe may be needed....
[01:07] <compilerwriter> ok intelikey I have synaptic fired up.  Now what?
[01:08] <intelikey> check for broken packages
[01:08] <compilerwriter> How does one do that intelikey?  I have always used adept.
[01:10] <intelikey> compilerwriter i'm not even in a *ubuntu system right now.   much less in a gui.    see if you can't find it in the "synaptic menus"
[01:11] <jaevel> anyone know why my system would hang during boot at "Checking File System"?
[01:11] <jaevel> after upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[01:11] <compilerwriter> I found a status bar that says none of my packages is broken.
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> jaevel: let it run, it's probably running fsck
[01:12] <jaevel> been going for 2 days now
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> oookay
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> then again, maybe not
[01:12] <intelikey> compilerwriter hmmm   ok.   view the installed packages and reinstall the ones related to kcontrol
[01:13] <compilerwriter> uninstall them and then reinstall intelikey?
[01:13] <tmbg> how big is your disk? :P
[01:13] <intelikey> compilerwriter no just reinstall will sufice.
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that's kind of personal, don't you think?
[01:13] <drewcipher> jaevel: got stuck there 10% for over a day.    went the lazy route and did a fresh.  feel like a puss now.
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll shut up now
[01:14] <Toyd> Gnu/stallmans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5eLn1QMJS0
[01:14] <jaevel> im gonna lose it all i guess... :/
[01:14] <Toyd> great tune
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: knock it off already.
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic | Toyd
[01:14] <Toyd> lyrics by rms
[01:14] <ubotu> Toyd: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:14] <jaevel> to top it all, ubuntu doesnt like my dvd rom...
[01:15] <jaevel> and will not reload....
[01:15] <intelikey> well time to go.
[01:16] <intelikey> compilerwriter i'll be back in a few.  if you are still having trubble i'll "TRY" to help.   but i hope you get it all streight before i get back.
[01:16] <delphine> pls... why phpmyadmin is installed but no files in /var/www ?
[01:17] <graft> delphine: probably it sets it up somewhere else and just uses a <Directory> line in your apache config
[01:19] <delphine> graft: thanks, now open httpd.conf
[01:20] <theamazingpotato> the sound is still low
[01:20] <delphine> why /etc/apache2/httpd.conf have only 1 line?
[01:21] <delphine> i know apache 1.x, where is config file here? :(
[01:23] <csingley> bobstro: thanks for the partimage ref; i'll look into it (sorry got ambushed there)
[01:26] <Alarm> i did something with the Kmenu , and now the "system settings" shortcut , that opens a window, is like a folder with subdirectories , like the category "internet" . with the only difference it includes the things that also the system settings includes, look and feel, administration , services and so on. how could i restore that ? or if someone could tell me what is in the properties of the "System settings" in the kmenu written , to fix it
[01:30] <theamazingpotato> sounds still not working right
[01:31] <homero> hola
[01:31] <theamazingpotato> its so low
[01:31] <homero> se puede chatear en espaol?
[01:32] <Skyblast> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:33] <surgy> hi
[01:33] <surgy> i need help extracting an iso image from a cd
[01:34] <Ertain> Does anyone do hibernate in Feisty?  Every time I try to go into hibernation it says I need the "resume=" option with my kernel.
[01:34] <Ertain> !hibernate
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <nuu> !hybernate
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <ardchoille> How do I get my web browser to parse php files instead of trying to download them? I have installed apache2 and php5
[01:43] <drewcipher> archoille:  what web browser?
[01:43] <Trubadurix> hi
[01:43] <ardchoille> drewcipher: Firefox
[01:44] <ardchoille> Well, konqueror won't open php files either.
[01:45] <ardchoille> Both will open index.html but neither will open index.php
[01:46] <Trubadurix> i install kubuntu, i put my firmware files in, i reboot and: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon  [faild]     and then   Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd               and it dont come longer it just stand there  ??? why?
[01:48] <drewcipher> archoille:  no magic bullet.  I had that problem on my FreeBSD box and trying to find the solution in my notes (which may not help I realize).  It seems hit or miss for people.
[01:48] <elvis> I try upgrading to edgy from dapper using gksu "update-manager -c"
[01:48] <elvis> and i get errors about failing to fetch some files
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> ardchoille- do you have the appropiate AddType line in your httpd.conf file?
[01:48] <elvis> can anyone help me out
[01:48] <eljefe_> has anyone had problems burning DVD+R in a fresh K7.04 install?
[01:49] <eljefe_> i cannot burn neither VideoDVDs in k3b, nor make ISO images in k9copy.
[01:49] <drewcipher> archoille:  I doubt it is this easy but gotta throw it out there:    SHIFT-RELOAD
[01:50] <ardchoille> Dragnslcr: I have installed apache2 and php with the exact same steps on Ubuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper and httpd.conf has always been empty.
[01:50] <eljefe_> elvis whats up?
[01:50] <ardchoille> drewcipher: What is SHIFT-RELOAD?
[01:50] <eljefe_> [shirf]  is a key
[01:50] <ardchoille> /ignore eljefe_
[01:50] <ardchoille> :P
[01:50] <eljefe_> [reload]  is a button on the browser.  hold [shift]  and click [reload] 
[01:50] <elvis> I use gksu "update-manager -c"  to try and upgrade, but i get fail to fetch 3 files during upgrade
[01:51] <elvis> how do i make it fetch these files
[01:51] <eljefe_> ardchoille: whats that for?
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <ardchoille> drewcipher: What does SHIFT-RELOAD do?
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/aiglx/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <drewcipher> it reloads the page when cached locally.
[01:52] <eljefe_> thats maybe OK... First,did you upgrade happen, Elvis?
[01:52] <ardchoille> drewcipher: Ah, ok. Well, I don't allow firefox to save cache after it exits.
[01:52] <elvis> no once that pops up it stops
[01:52] <elvis> it says error during update and has a close button
[01:53] <drewcipher> ardchoille:  yeah, figured that would have been too easy.  and closing Firefox would do it too.  back to the books.
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Hrm, this can't be good... Whenever I start a KDE application, I get a dialog that says, in not so few words, that ~/.kde/share/config/<app>rc is not writable, as well as ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[01:53] <eljefe_> elvis: k.  Two things with this.  Your upgrade needs to happen ONLY from the Ubuntu repositories, so those fetchings of bluntkind and berly repositories (the errors above) are not supposed to be used.
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Should I re-mount /?
[01:54] <eljefe_> elvis: BUT because you have included these things in your current installation, it is almost certain that the upgrade will fail.  In my opinion.
[01:54] <eljefe_> elvis: i'd say don't do it.
[01:54] <Reva> Hello. Can anyone help me configure a Linksys PCI Wireless Network card? I can't get it to work.
[01:54] <eljefe_> install fresh..  you have a seperate /home partiton or a way to back up, right?
[01:55] <eljefe_> download a CD from bittorrent (look for KTorrent)
[01:55] <elvis> i think i was just using them to try installing beryl
[01:55] <eljefe_> (in your KMenu)
[01:55] <elvis> which didnt work
[01:55] <eljefe_> elvis: still... i wouldn't
[01:55] <eljefe_> elvis: i had very few outside packages in and myne did Not Work.
[01:56] <elvis> Thanks for the warning eljefe
[01:56] <eljefe_> BUT... try it; comment out those repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list and try the update.  If it fails, take the outher path ;)
[01:56] <elvis> ok im going to do it
[01:56] <eljefe_> you have a /home partition?
[01:57] <elvis> im not sure
[01:58] <eljefe> elvis: have you been to the command line?  i want one command from you there.
[01:58] <eljefe> konsole: type 'df' (no quotes) and let me know what it says
[01:59] <elvis> if your looking for a /home after i type df.... none there
[01:59] <eljefe> humm.
[01:59] <BloodyTux> hello
[01:59] <jessai> hi
[02:00] <eljefe> you don't want to lose your data, do you?  make a backup of everything... and if you DO have to reinstall, then you'll lose EVERYTHING but you have the chane to make a seperate partition for a /home...
[02:00] <jessai> i need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?
[02:00] <smoalne> hello
[02:00] <eljefe> so maybe _don't_ go for it unless you're sure that you wanna deal with.. .a whole new OS.  Me, I love it.  Not everyone.
[02:01] <jessai>  i need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?
[02:01] <elvis> Clean slates are always nice in my opinion
[02:01] <eljefe> backup your data, thats all.
[02:01] <LjL> !helpme
[02:01] <Skyblast> Seperate /home is a life saver
[02:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:01] <eljefe> cool.
[02:01] <BloodyTux> eljefe what's going on, maybe i can put in some insight
[02:01] <eljefe> elvis: listen to Skyblast :)
[02:01] <eljefe> Hey Bloody, thanks!
[02:01] <Ashex> jessai, what do you need help with exactly?
[02:01] <elvis> ok
[02:02] <Skyblast> Me Feisty upgrade bombed horrible, I just downloaded the CD ISO, reinstalled, pointed my mount points back, and voila! Instant Feisty!
[02:02] <elvis> I just now am able to understand what you guys are talking about
[02:02] <jessai> in host what i supouse to put to check hotmail?
[02:02] <eljefe> Well I have a pretty fresh install of 7.04 with the Medibuntu parts installed also.  My k9copy cannot make a DVD-iso (and crashes if I play too much in the Settings)
[02:02] <elvis> Ill definately do it next time i need to
[02:02] <Toyd> Microsoft is claiming that Linux has code in it that belong to Microsoft... we ask them to prove this, we ask them to SHOW US THE CODE!!
[02:02] <Toyd> www.showusthecode.com
[02:02] <elvis> but for right now im fine with even losing all my files
[02:03] <Black_Mask> eljefe you're talking about feisty?
[02:03] <Ace2016> hi all
[02:03] <Ace2016> is it ok to remove /home/ace/Desktop
[02:03] <Ace2016> its messing up my home dir
[02:03] <eljefe> BloodyTux: and now I went to burn a DVD+R with k3b and _it_ claims not to have all the necessary files...
[02:03] <BloodyTux> hmmmm
[02:03] <eljefe> Black_Mask: Yes, Feisty.
[02:03] <eljefe> Kubuntu
[02:03] <eljefe> BloodyTux: I don't know if they're both the cdrecord/wob?? package, or seperate issues?
[02:04] <epimeth> ahoy again...
[02:04] <Black_Mask> Toyd: when are they gonna sue the GNU/Linux users community?
[02:04] <ubuntu_> so why doesn't konqueror work in feisty
[02:04] <epimeth> hows everybody doing?
[02:04] <eljefe> Ace2016: you can, yes.  But anything that you (or, user 'ace')see on the desktop is gone.
[02:04] <Toyd> lol
[02:04] <eljefe> epimeth: :)
[02:05] <eljefe> Ace2016: its just another folder which is always open
[02:05] <eljefe> on the desktop
[02:05] <BloodyTux> i would try reinstalling k3b and if the doesn't work try using a different buring software, try sourceforge or search google for 'linux dvd burning'
[02:06] <eljefe> BloodyTux: that bl0ws! I heart k3b!
[02:06] <BloodyTux> the thing is is if it's DVD+R it could be that the burner you have is a) not compatible with DVD, b) not working right, or c) k3b doesn't have the exact file it needs to write to a dvd+r
[02:06] <Ashex> jessai, check hotmails website for the settings
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: heres a better idea maybe... how do I _downgrade_ k3b away from Medibuntu package?
[02:07] <BloodyTux> that might work
[02:07] <Ashex> specify the version you want
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: ah its worked before, its the software...
[02:07] <Ashex> like sudo apt-get install k3b=1.003
[02:07] <Ashex> I think
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: oh i was hoping that you'd know
[02:07] <Ashex> lemme double check that
[02:07] <BloodyTux> brb
[02:07] <eljefe> Ashex: thanks... lemme know dawg lemme know!
[02:08] <eljefe> youse ever use Yakuake?  its fantastic.
[02:08] <Black_Mask> Toyd Microsoft isn't gonna show you or anyone the violation in code. They are gonna set up a closed-door meeting with major GNU/Linux distribution companies such as Redhat and Canonical, show them the proof and tell them 'look this is how tommorrow I'm gonna slap you with a billion dollar lawsuit in which you must fail because this time we are prepared. there is no way you are gonna win and prove that GNU/Linux community hasn't
[02:08] <Black_Mask> violated the software patents. now you have two options: either stay away from us, remain enemies and get defeated in the lawsuit or befriend us and create a closed-source Windows Linux 2008 for us and here is 10 million dollars in advance'
[02:09] <eljefe> Black_Mask: the blasphemy!
[02:09] <Ashex> eljefe, that's correct, you should create a preferences file in apt (/etc/apt/preferences) too to make sure it works
[02:09] <Toyd> yeah Black5un
[02:09] <Toyd> Black_Mask,
[02:09] <Ashex> let me see if I can find more info on the preferences file
[02:10] <graft> !offtopic
[02:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:10] <eljefe> do i have to?
[02:10] <graft> what, there's a kubuntu-offtopic?
[02:10] <Toyd> graft actually it is ontopic
[02:10] <Toyd> !ontopic
[02:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:10] <epimeth> Black_Mask: or not... SCO tried that and IBM b*tchslapped them so hard their shareholder's grandchildren felt it
[02:10] <graft> Toyd: bullshooting about microsoft/SCO is not really ontopic, eh
[02:11] <Toyd> graft you dont understand the seriousness of the situation
[02:11] <Black_Mask> lol bullshoot
[02:11] <Toyd> nalioth,
[02:11] <Toyd> tell graft its serious please
[02:12] <Toyd> nalioth,  where have you been
[02:12] <theamazingpotato> bye
[02:12] <nalioth> Toyd: i've been here since a long time ago (barring some restarts)
[02:12] <Toyd> ok
[02:13] <graft> Toyd: what situation?
[02:13] <ubuntu_> I  am running the live feisty cd and finally got the wireless working.  so i open konqueror and try to goto kubuntu forms  but it won't connect, yet here i am chatting. whats up with that
[02:13] <Ashex> eljefe, http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man5/apt_preferences.5.html
[02:13] <Ashex> That's info on setting up a preferences file
[02:14] <Toyd> graft scroll up and read what blackmask posted
[02:14] <Ashex> it's not as complicated as it sounds though
[02:14] <epimeth> soooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)
[02:14] <epimeth> however, the sound isn't working
[02:14] <epimeth> its a realtek card... not sure on the specifics
[02:14] <graft> Toyd: yeah, that's just cloud talk, man... that's not a desperate situation
[02:14] <eljefe> Ashex: yes?  (ps what version of k3b do i want? that last one didn't work and Adept didn't tell me of others avail even tough I stopped the Medibuntu repo?)
[02:14] <Ashex> eljefe, for an example of one, look at the section on downgrading in this wiki: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL#Adding_the_Beryl_Project_repositories
[02:14] <Ashex> hmm
[02:14] <eljefe> wonderful, thank you
[02:15] <eljefe> Ashex: I have to go, my friends chilling here and bored with me :)
[02:15] <eljefe> Ashex: thank you, I'll follow up on it!
[02:16] <Ashex> eljefe, no problem :)
[02:17] <ubuntu_> no one else having trouble with konquero
[02:17] <dwidmann> eljefe: what kind of trouble?
[02:17] <epimeth> ubuntu_: whats the problem?
[02:19] <_Neil> http://librarian.launchpad.net/7408582/gdb-rhythmbox.txt rhythmbox segfaults with this.. any ideas anyone?
[02:19] <ubuntu_> i installed feisty on a laptop and took forever to get the wireless working.  when i did konqueror would not make conection to browse but swift fox could.   now i am running live cd and same thing konqueror won't browse but the chat works.
[02:20] <eljefe> Ashex: and dwidmann: ok well.. now it IS burning a regular (old) ISO file onto the DVD... so they must be seperate issues (burning VidioDVD files vs 'burning' an ISO within K9copy)  Thnaks again!!
[02:20] <Ashex> ah, that may be seperate issues
[02:20] <Ashex> not a problem
[02:20] <Ashex> I'm in here a lot so just send me a message if anything comes up :)
[02:21] <K`zan> Anyone else get "Mount point 0 does not exist" upon boot?  Putzed with fstab and the message is useless for figuring out where the problem is :-(.  Any thoughts appreciated.
[02:21] <K`zan> Google was no help either :-(.
[02:24] <Ashex> K`zan, I'm about to leave
[02:24] <Ashex> but, check the uuid in fstab and menu.lst
[02:24] <stanley> hey guys
[02:24] <stanley> i am having an adept problem
[02:24] <Ashex> make sure all the mount points (/dev/foo) are real too
[02:24] <ubuntu_> i get 'An error occurred while loading http://kubuntuforums.net: " when using konq
[02:24] <epimeth> ubuntu_: that is odd... is it for all sites or just a few
[02:24] <stanley> is says another program is using the package database when there isn't one doing so
[02:24] <stanley> #adept
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley:
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !fixadeptcrash
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu repositories have mambo ?
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> what si that one again..
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !fix adept lock
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> hey.... i'm having a problem with my ATI (fglrx) driver
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:27] <epimeth> ubuntu_: how are you connecting to the internet?
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> when I log out, it gives me a blank screen, no KDM, the screen isn't off... its black
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> but he is gone now
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> card is an Xpress1100, driver is the one included in fiest (8.34.)
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Ahmuck: not that I could find
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ctrl alt bkspce doesn't work.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> neither does alt-f2
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> or even ctrl-alt bkspce for that matter
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> any ideas?
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> nosrednaekim: i don't have any
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[02:30] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: any ideas with my little audio problem?
[02:31] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: and its good to see you agai... been a while
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: can you respond with ti
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> nosrednaekim: maybe the binary will hely
[02:31] <BloodyTux> hey nosrednaekim, fglrx is for radeon 9500 or higher
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> help*
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i've been busy with school work epimeth :(
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> I know... this is a xpress mobile chipset, not a X*****
[02:31] <epimeth> soooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)
[02:31] <BloodyTux> !fglrx
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> it worked with edgy
[02:32] <epimeth> however, the sound isn't working
[02:32] <epimeth> its a realtek card... not sure on the specifics
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: doesn't work at all?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> try headphones
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: alsamixer in a konsole
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> muted maybe
[02:32] <_Neil> hi guys how can i remove old kernels (pre feisty)?
[02:33] <_Neil> i have 3 listed in grub now!
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> its really just an annoyance as I never log off (just suspend)
[02:33] <ubuntu_> any ideas why konqueror won't connect
[02:33] <mcrandello> _Neil, the easiest way would be through whatever package manager you're using, synaptic, adept
[02:33] <mcrandello> that *should* remove them from the menu.lst as well
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> could it possibly have something to do with DPMS?
[02:33] <_Neil> mcrandello: what packages am i looking for?
[02:33] <epimeth> its not just that, either... the volume control only lowers and raises by 10%  (ie only back and forth from 0 to 10 or 50 to 60 or 90 to 100)
[02:34] <mcrandello> _Neil, I just search for "kernel" and find them from the resulting list
[02:34] <_Neil> linux-image packages?
[02:34] <_Neil> theres loads for kernel...
[02:34] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: alsomixer is open... now what?
[02:34] <mcrandello> I think those are the ones
[02:35] <mcrandello> they should have version numbers that match the kernels you have listed in grub
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> is anything muted?
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> it would not be green at the bottom if it is
[02:35] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nope
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> i need a good bittorrent client
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> progress bars?
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> !torrent>chemicalvamp
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> so stuff is filled up
[02:35] <epimeth> all green except for MM things... Mic Caller I and Off-hook
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: azeureus?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ktorrent?
[02:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hit 9 on the keypad, that'll give you something
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> epimeth- what is the chipset? is it one of those HD audio things?
[02:37] <epimeth> I'm not sure about the chipset... there's something Intel *and* something Realtek
[02:37] <stanley> hey when i open adept it says that the packaging system database is in use by another application, when no other application is using the database
[02:37] <stanley> what do i do??
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: lspci | grep realtek will tell you version iirc
[02:37] <Black_Mask> news just out! samsung has become the first victim of MS's claim that GNU/Linux infringes on the latter's property!
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: ^^
[02:38] <Black_Mask> http://news.com.com/Microsoft%2C+Samsung+in+patent+swap+deal/2100-1014_3-6177381.html?tag=nefd.top
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> stanley reboot
[02:38] <epimeth> !pastebin>epimeth
[02:38] <stanley> i did reboot
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> stanley or kill the process thas using it
[02:38] <stanley> and that still doesn't work
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: don't reboot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/50323
[02:38] <mcrandello> if I have the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic a dummy package?
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> grr
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> wait
[02:38] <mcrandello> *is that a dummy package?
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley:
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> type that in a konsole
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> finally
[02:39] <stanley> ok
[02:39] <mcrandello> I have a fglrx.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile but xorg doesn't seem to like it
[02:40] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/
[02:40] <epimeth> thats all of lspci
[02:40] <stanley> what does that do Admiral_Chicago?
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: clear adept out of lock.
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> brb phon
[02:41] <stanley> ohh ok thanx
[02:41] <epimeth> not to insult you guys by leaving in the middle of getting help, but I'll brb....
[02:43] <mcrandello> alternately are there any guides out there on forcing my wifi off the same interrupt as my video card and usb and modem
[02:44] <mcrandello> for some reason I can't make wifi work with the open source radeon drivers
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> mcrandello lemme guess your on feisty?
[02:45] <nosrednaeki1> what does wifi have to do with radeon?
[02:45] <mcrandello> chemicalvamp, yeah, it was pretty much the same story since dapper tho
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> feistys wireless support needs work
[02:46] <mcrandello> nosrednaeki1 I'm no system engineer but trust me the only way to get reliable (or any) wifi is to have the fglrx installed and working
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> ive seen dozens of people trying to get help on there wireless cards on feisty.. including myself
[02:46] <mcrandello> it's sharing an irq with the vidcard and about 5 other devices
[02:47] <nosrednaeki1> huh?
[02:47] <Toyd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNXTPGohuU&mode=related&search=
[02:47] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: thats interesting...
[02:48] <chemicalvamp> some people get lucky, and they never have a problem and others fix it by buying a longer wire
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Toyd: please stay on topic
[02:48] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: I'm back... did you see the pastebin?
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i did
[02:49] <Toyd> lol
[02:49] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/ - thats my entire lspci
[02:49] <nosrednaeki1> no...something happened to my network
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> I like my solution to wireless problems
[02:49] <nosrednaeki1> wires?
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[02:50] <epimeth> Dragnslcr: I was using that solution for a while... but then I realized that it defeats the purpose :-p
[02:50] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: you don't have a realtek sound chip
[02:50] <nosrednaeki1> thats an ethernet contoller
[02:51] <epimeth> nosrednaeki: I noticed :-)  but I promise, I do!  at least thats what lenovo and windows xp claims
[02:51] <nosrednaeki1> hmm...
[02:52] <nosrednaeki1> they use the same driver anyway...so it shouldn't matter... OTOH, it may not even be detecting it..
[02:53] <Kubuntu_noob> anyone know of an isa-pnp module that will work with kubuntu?
[02:54] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: so what do I do?
[02:54] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: I have absolutely no idea... check what type of realtek chip you have in windows?
[02:55] <red22> anyone else here install kubuntu and then ubuntu-desktop?
[02:55] <nosrednaeki1> red22, I did it the other way around
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> I like alot of the ubuntu programs, specially synaptic, so I just loaded it first
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> firefox, gaim also
[02:56] <red22> nosrednaeki1, do you have any problems when you log out?
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> yeah!
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> why do you ask?
[02:56] <red22> lol
[02:56] <mcrandello> sorry for dissapearing, the cleaning lady made me move so she could mop
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> lol
[02:57] <nosrednaeki1> do you have an ATI card?
[02:57] <red22> what happens when you log out? you get booted to non-graphical?
[02:57] <red22> yeah have ati too
[02:57] <nosrednaeki1> did you install the proprietary driver?
[02:57] <mcrandello> anyway the funny part is it was working with feisty (upgraded) until I tried out beryl
[02:57] <mcrandello> and had to reinstall
[02:57] <red22> well that's the only driver that works for my card i think
[02:57] <mcrandello>  yeah the proprietary driver
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> I get booted to a blank screen.. totally blank... no ctrl alt bkspce or nothing
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> keyboard seems locked,,
[02:58] <mcrandello> with the radeon, no wifi. The fglrx improperly installed I have to keep moving the mouse to keep a connection.
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> red22: whats your chipset?
[02:58] <red22> mcrandello: you talking about the same stuff we are or you on something else?
[02:58] <mcrandello> only with fglrx and dri does wifi work properly
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> he's talking about something else
[02:58] <red22> ah ok nm mcran
[02:59] <mcrandello> although now that you mention it I had a bunch of problems with logging out with the ATI as well
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: do tell...
[02:59] <red22> nosrednaeki1: mobo? 965
[02:59] <mcrandello> or shutting down or ctrl-alt-bkspc after logging in
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> red22: no I mean the graphics card..
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: what happens?
[02:59] <red22> x1950pro
[02:59] <mcrandello> they went away for the most part after the 8.32.whatever drivers
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> ok.. Xpress 1100 here
[03:00] <mcrandello> usually the system would hard lock. I'm assuming it was part of the irq conflict
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: same problem here!
[03:00] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I think I know why my audio isn't working...
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> worked fine in edgy with the 8.28's
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> why?
[03:00] <mcrandello> also the screen would just randomly freeze due to the usb being on the same irq as the vid and wifi
[03:00] <mcrandello> the mouse would bring it down
[03:00] <red22> nosrednaeki1: have you been able to fix it though? you using proprietary drivers too? what card?
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> no.. its still not fixed... I have an Xpress1100 (integreated graphics)
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> and yeah.. prprietary drivers here..
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> OS drivers work fine
[03:01] <mcrandello> the solution for the freezes was to put "noapic" and "pollirq" into the boot options in the menu.lst file
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> AH!
[03:02] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: audio driver for xp's readme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17714/
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> I'll try the noapic... was having problems with that before
[03:02] <red22> nosrednaeki1: so when you need to shutdown, you have to type the command in at console?
[03:02] <mcrandello> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/41272
[03:02] <mcrandello> is the bug report
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> no I can shut down fine...
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> just no logging out and then back in
[03:03] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: interesting.. seems to be made JUST for lenovo..
[03:03] <mcrandello> in particular it seems to affect cheap laptops with the ATIIXP chipset
[03:03] <chemicalvamp> where do i change power managment setings? my comp crases when it goes to sleep
[03:03] <red22> nosrednaeki1: ah yeah that's what i meant. the shutting down problem is due to beryl... i have no shutdown option at all now... only a single "log out" button on my shutdown screen..
[03:04] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I doubt it... they just seem to playing it off that way
[03:04] <nosrednaeki1> red22: ahh yeah... that
[03:04] <chemicalvamp> red22 ive had the sngle log out button before, i logged out and loged in again and it was gone
[03:04] <mcrandello> I have some opinions on beryl and system stability but this is a family channel
[03:04] <red22> nosrednaeki1: have you tried "startx" when you're at console? what comes up.. kde or gnome?
[03:04] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I think my problem is that I need some sort of a UAA High Definition Audio driver first
[03:05] <nosrednaeki1> I don't think so... is this a VERY new laptop?
[03:05] <red22> chemicalvamp: when i hit log out, i'm thrown out to console and there is no more logging in until i restart :(
[03:05] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: if by VERY you mean "built, like, yesterday" then yes, I think so :-)
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> in command prompt do startkde and or startx
[03:06] <nosrednaeki1> no I mean.. the model
[03:06] <red22> chemicalvamp: but that is apparently bc i installed kubuntu and then ubuntu-dekstop since nosrednaeki1 has similar issues.
[03:06] <nosrednaeki1> red22: it depends...
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> then use sudo apt-get to fix it?
[03:06] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: thats what I meant
[03:06] <mcrandello> what other xorg drivers could I try other than ati, radeon or fglrx?
[03:06] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: "conceived, like, yesterday"
[03:06] <mcrandello> maybe with only the 2d happening I can get wireless
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> I have to go.... think i'll start a thread on ubuntu-forums
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: vesa
[03:07] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: point me to it?
[03:07] <newGuy> where is the repository listing file located?
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> can't.. its not started and I have to go..
[03:07] <red22> chemicalvamp: when i'm out in console after logout startkde doesn't start kde and startx brings up gnome.
[03:07] <epimeth> newGuy: /etc/apt/sourced.list
[03:07] <mcrandello> nosrednaeki1, thx
[03:07] <newGuy> Thanks
[03:07] <epimeth> newGuy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <mcrandello> I think you can edit it in synaptic or adept_manager as well
[03:08] <soulrider> hi
[03:08] <red22> chemicalvamp: what should i apt-get to fix this?
[03:09] <newGuy> Also how do I tell it to refresh the file list?
[03:09] <soulrider> im using the live CD, one of my drives has a swap partition and im tyring to format it, but ti sais its mounted
[03:09] <soulrider> is there any way to unmount it ?
[03:10] <soulrider> found it :) nmv
[03:10] <soulrider> vm*
[03:10] <WillLuongo> soulride umount
[03:11] <soulrider> WillLuongo:  you cant do that because its swap
[03:11] <soulrider> you gotta do 'swapoff'
[03:11] <WillLuongo> soulrider: Ok
[03:11] <WillLuongo> :D
[03:11] <soulrider> oh fork, i gotta reboot again!
[03:11] <soulrider> wth is wrong with qtparted!
[03:12] <soulrider> hey, the maximum number of aprtitions is 4 right?
[03:12] <soulrider> or can you have 4 + an extended one ?
[03:15] <mcrandello> the ati_agp and agpgart modules go to the oss drivers, correct?
[03:16] <epimeth> soulrider: 3 + extended
[03:16] <epimeth> soulrider: 4 is the max amount of partitions
[03:16] <soulrider> oh crap
[03:16] <soulrider> i need to make an extended one then and move my home partition
[03:17] <soulrider> i can screw things up =/
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> ive got a whole bunch of games installed with no shortcuts in the K!menu
[03:17] <soulrider> oh ym chemicalvamp
[03:17] <soulrider> like what ?
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> vegastrike
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> dozen more
[03:17] <soulrider> is vegastrike good ?
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> its 3d
[03:17] <mcrandello> kappfinder
[03:17] <mcrandello> may work
[03:17] <soulrider> but is it good? :P
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> i dont know yet, havent played it
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> looks good
[03:18] <mcrandello> wheee vesa driver doesn't make wifi blow up
[03:20] <soulrider> guys, what distro can i use on a PC i think its a 550 mhz athlon ?
[03:20] <soulrider> not sure aobut the RAM
[03:20] <soulrider> 8 gig HD
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider: DSL
[03:21] <mcrandello> soulrider, I'd try some livecd distros to see what chugs first
[03:21] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: i was thinking of DSL too
[03:21] <soulrider> the problem is that it doesnt ahve a network card
[03:21] <chemicalvamp> kappfinder found 18 programs, none tat i was looking for
[03:22] <soulrider> installing software is what concerns me
[03:22] <soulrider> it doesnt even have USB ports
[03:22] <soulrider> god, windows 98 hard drives are so messy!
[03:22] <vbgunz> soulrider: you might have to install whatever linux you try in text mode if you have one unless maybe you have a boat load of ram to try a live cd
[03:23] <soulrider> vbgunz: no problem, i installed Arch on my computer
[03:23] <soulrider> besides, i can just read the wiki on my PC :P
[03:23] <vbgunz> damn, I have gvim and I cannot uninstall it :(
[03:24] <soulrider> why not ?
[03:24] <soulrider> oh damn, im looking at a windows 98 directory, everything sucks so much
[03:24] <soulrider> the desktop backgrounds are shockingly nasty
[03:24] <vbgunz> it doesn't want to uninstall... earlier dpkg -S gvim said it was a virtual package, now it lists some files, I cannot apt-get remove it or anything else... I don't remember ever uninstalling... I hate little things like this :(
[03:25] <bluekitsune> Hello
[03:25] <soulrider> they tried to hide a couple of BMPs as .sys files, but KDE shows the thumbnail and everything :P
[03:25] <soulrider> hi bluekitsune
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: red22: still here?
[03:25] <vbgunz> Windows 98 is awesome next to Vista. not sure exactly and doubt it but that is the overwhelming concensus out there :P
[03:25] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: yup... methinks I have a solution.... gimme a few mins
[03:26] <bluekitsune> This might be a dumb question but i need to set up my vide card drivers and openGL
[03:26] <bluekitsune> video*
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: not a dumb q at all..
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> fist of all, what kind of ideo card do you have?
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> *video
[03:26] <bluekitsune> nivida
[03:26] <vbgunz> !nvidia
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: so are you using Ubuntu fiesty?
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <bluekitsune> benn there
[03:27] <bluekitsune> been*
[03:27] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: looking for the ! ;)
[03:27] <soulrider> vbgunz: if win 98 could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> nope.... its the #1 key..lol
[03:27] <bluekitsune> Um im useing Kubuntu that why that doesnt help XD
[03:27] <vbgunz> soulrider: if win Vista could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P
[03:28] <soulrider> lol
[03:28] <danish> ok none of the applications i donwload are playing the wmv
[03:28] <soulrider> nah, its blows!
[03:28] <epimeth> soulrider: no... its kernel would still suck
[03:28] <soulrider> it*
[03:28] <bluekitsune> I have Vista on this same PC
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> Is there a way to get a game pad to simulate keyboard input? Playing Supertux with the keyboard is killing my wrist
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: what version of kubuntu?
[03:28] <bluekitsune> 6.10
[03:28] <soulrider> bluekitsune:  i tried it some time ago and i thought it sucked
[03:28] <danish> and when i tried to get the gstream there are tons of them how do i know which one to downlaod
[03:28] <soulrider> the voice recognition thing was a friggin joke!
[03:28] <bluekitsune> I know!
[03:28] <jlilly> hey all. any thought on what I might do to fix the error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:28] <bluekitsune> dont even work XD
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: it'd be whole lot easier if you just did fiest
[03:28] <bluekitsune> Ya i know
[03:29] <vbgunz> I haven't tried it to be honest, not a bit excited about it
[03:29] <bluekitsune> Vista is still downloading it
[03:29] <soulrider> bluekitsune: i know widows extreme fanboys that are not convinced about vista
[03:29] <soulrider> and thats bad!
[03:29] <bluekitsune> Vista not as good as they all think
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: you trying to do a open GL app?
[03:29] <soulrider> i musta dmit i like some of the graphics
[03:29] <jlilly> nosred: yes. beryl, but I have to get glx working first.
[03:29] <bluekitsune> I like that arro part of it
[03:29] <bluekitsune> but it just eats RAM
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: you can still use the above tutorial, even if you are using kubuntu
[03:30] <jlilly> bluekit: yea, aero is nice. I really like the search option w/ the start menu
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: what's your graphics card?
[03:30] <bluekitsune> Thats good to
[03:30] <vbgunz> soulrider: get a screenshot of Vista, those graphics will hold you down for about a day or two ;)
[03:30] <jlilly> windows key + type the first 4-5 letters of the thing you want and hit enter.
[03:30] <jlilly> nosred: nvidia 7600gs PCI-E
[03:30] <soulrider> jlilly: try beagle + kickoff
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> are you using fiesty fawn?
[03:30] <soulrider> i ahve that in arch, and its way better than the vista menu
[03:30] <jlilly> soulrider: beagle? kickoff? I'm not familiar.
[03:30] <bluekitsune> Anyone here play Secondlife?
[03:30] <jlilly> nosred: yea. I just upgraded.
[03:31] <danish> how can i play wmv files on kubuntu
[03:31] <soulrider> vbgunz: the thing i liked was that application switcher that showed all windows like a deck of cards
[03:31] <vbgunz> to be honest I don't like the Vista kickoff menu compared to the good ol KDE menu :(
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: any glx was working b4?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> *and
[03:31] <soulrider> !w32codecs | danish
[03:31] <ubotu> danish: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:31] <jlilly> nosred: fresh install & upgrade (from 6.10)
[03:31] <soulrider> jlilly: kde-apps.org check out kickoff
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> xine-extracodecs also works...
[03:31] <jordo23> Why did Kubuntu decide to go with Kexi as a database program over OpenOffice's Database......I don't even see it's included with Feisty, right?
[03:31] <Bearcat> hey folks.  I note that i cannot load the latest hplip drivers and associated packages. The latest i have in kubuntu is 0.9.7-4 where on the site it is 1.7.4. How can i get this in to my system easily?
[03:31] <Bearcat> is there a more recent package list?
[03:31] <soulrider> brb
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: did OpenGL work back in edgy?
[03:32] <vbgunz> danish: are you onb Feisty?
[03:32] <bluekitsune> grr i need the new one
[03:32] <danish> vbgunz yes
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: new what?
[03:32] <bluekitsune> Kubuntu
[03:32] <jlilly> nosred: like I said. fresh install. I basically installed 6.10 without testing. then immediately upgraded. I only had the 6.10 CD and I didn't feel like downlloading another copy.
[03:32] <bluekitsune> and just call me blue its easyer to type lol
[03:32] <vbgunz> danish: look into installing "ubuntu-restricted-extras" that might work
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ok gotcha
[03:33] <illriginal> Hey what's up guys, I have a question, how can I check if someone is pinging me viciously? My modem keeps dropping connection.
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> its called "tab"
[03:33] <illriginal> I'm on Cable connection by the way.
[03:33] <dsmith> pinging viciously? Like DDos?
[03:33] <illriginal> yes.
[03:33] <illriginal> like attacking my connection basically.
[03:33] <jordo23> I find it wierd that Kubuntu Feisty adopted Kexi for database apps, a fork of Koffice, but then installs the rest of the OpenOffice's programs in KOffice's place.......did anyone else notice this?
[03:33] <dsmith> i had that happen to me once
[03:33] <illriginal> someone threatened me with hackin and i think they're just pingin me to death here.
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: try running the command "sudo restricted-manager"
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: thats one problem with a static IP{
[03:34] <dsmith> do you have a static IP?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[03:34] <illriginal> yeah Cable internet
[03:34] <illriginal> is static.
[03:34] <jlilly> nosred: not installed. Should I grab it?
[03:34] <Bearcat> I'm on Dapper by the way.  It seems that i can only load the hpojs driver as when i try to load the hplip driver it says it does not exist
[03:34] <test> Running kubuntu feisty clickiing a theme in  emeraled theme manager produces no response
[03:34] <illriginal> can't use proxy
[03:34] <bluekitsune> Hmm guess no ones play second life
[03:34] <illriginal> at least i don't think there's a proxy for linux.. is there?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: makes things a heck of a lot easier
[03:34] <dsmith> have you tried calling the cable company?
[03:34] <jlilly> k. 2 sec
[03:35] <test> Chhange mac address will give u new IP ii static
[03:35] <illriginal> yeah, they say the IP cannot change
[03:35] <illriginal> unless they make the change for whatever reason they may have.
[03:35] <dsmith> test: could he change is MAC?
[03:35] <dsmith> or spoof it
[03:35] <bluekitsune> I'm gonna get the newest Kubuntu
[03:35] <bluekitsune> cya
[03:35] <test> illriginal: I found changing mac address of network card woorks
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> test: you have to restart the window manager wor whatever
[03:36] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: errored out on run.
[03:36] <nosrednaekim>  bluekitsuneok
[03:36] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: seg fault, core dumped
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> wow...
[03:36] <illriginal> test, i dunno how to do that, wouldn't that basically fiddle with my connection?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> hmm..
[03:36] <illriginal> possibility that my network card will stop workin or something?
[03:36] <jlilly> maybe b/c I'm running Kubuntu instead of ubuntu? something with the gnome libs or something?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: umm... go install the nidia driver
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> how do you turn off this dumb hidden icon crp
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> crap*
[03:36] <dsmith> illriginal: http://www.tech-faq.com/change-mac-address.shtml
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> hidden icon?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ahh... could be
[03:37] <illriginal> and these are steps for ubuntu, yes?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> I did ubuntu and then installed kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <MrWGW> I don't suppose any of you know if JFS is a good/bad idea with *ubuntu
[03:37] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: I have tried installing:  nvidia-glx  and then nvidia-glx-new   neither fix the issue.
[03:37] <jlilly> btw: which should I be using?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: probably "new:
[03:37] <MrWGW> I saw the option to use it, and I've always really wanted to use it, but I intend to use it on a Mac, and additionally I really want to use KVM
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> did you edit your xorg?
[03:38] <MrWGW> so I'm really curious as to whether or not JFS, given that, is a good or bad idea
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> how do i view all folders
[03:38] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: I don't recall :-/
[03:38] <illriginal> Use this command to change the MAC address?: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: go look... see if it has "nv" or "nvidia"
[03:38] <jlilly> nv
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> change that to nidia..
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> *nvidia
[03:39] <jlilly> then ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> log out and then do that...
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> illriginal google "changing MAC in linux
[03:39] <jlilly> k. bbiab
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> and if it doesn't work.. change it back
[03:39] <illriginal> nice
[03:39] <illriginal> yeah it's: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:40] <jlilly> I got the splash screen.
[03:40] <jlilly> :)
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> ok...cool..
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> check if you have 3d
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> "glxgears"
[03:40] <jlilly> direct rendering: Yes
[03:40] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:40] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[03:40] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'
[03:40] <jlilly> yep.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ok.. you have it...cool
[03:40] <jlilly> tyvm! +1 karma point
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> this isn't /.
[03:41] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:41] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[03:41] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[03:41] <illriginal> was it the ` ?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> now go follow a tutorial forberyl
[03:42] <morphius_> I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:
[03:42] <morphius_>  warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected
[03:42] <soulrider> damn, this computer is prehistoric
[03:42] <soulrider> it doesnt even have a ps2 port!!
[03:42] <morphius_> Internal error: memory corruption detected
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> have to go all....give epimeth my respects when he gets back
[03:42] <morphius_> Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 0
[03:42] <illriginal> can someone help me find out how do see if someone is pinging my connection viciously?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[03:43] <morphius_> illriginal: try wireshark.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> howdy nosrednaekim
[03:43] <illriginal> ok that's in the adept?
[03:43] <morphius_> probably.
[03:43] <illriginal> ok
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you have an ati card?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> are you running fiesty?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> with the proprietary driver?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> just reinstalled
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> having any problems logging out?
[03:44] <lovloss> Is there no support whatsoever for Radeon x700 cards in feisty? I tried running envy and i still get my monitor turning itself off when it tries to load the desktop
[03:44] <BluesKaj> it's the only one to use for dri
[03:44] <test> When running beryl it does not display the title bar max/min close buttons is this normal ?
[03:44] <illriginal> morphius, where would I find the icon for wireshark, after I download and install?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> test: no
[03:45] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim, X doesn't want to close ...it's an issue we should report
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: definately... even ati user so far has had the same problem
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> *every
[03:45] <morphius_> Probably under "internet"
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> file a bug report and i'll back it..
[03:46] <mcrandello> hrmm the wifi is tied to the mouse movement again
[03:46] <lovloss> What about this ATI problem: unable to start up even the live cds desktop without the screen turning off? o.o
[03:46] <lovloss> at least i hope thats an ati problem
[03:46] <mcrandello> the faster i move the pointr the better the thruput
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: it probably is...
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> mcrandello: WEIRD!
[03:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, it was pi**ing me off somewhat , that and the loss pf digital out on the ati ixp soundcard, after upgrading from feisty beta
[03:46] <mcrandello> if it's ati ithat's probably the problem :V
[03:46] <illriginal> sweet
[03:46] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: is x700 a rare brand? it was the most commonly sold off of tigerdirect
[03:47] <illriginal> thanks a lot morphius
[03:47] <mcrandello> about to put the mouse on the floor
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: no its not rare, but ATI support is crappy..
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: doesn't REALLY bother me...
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> I just suspend..
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> never have to log out
[03:47] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: grrr
[03:47] <WillLuongo> what is a terminal command to check disk space?
[03:47] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: The monitor losing signal must be a card issue, wouldnt you say?
[03:47] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: the solution I found seems geared towards the c200
[03:47] <epimeth> I have the n100
[03:48] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: there's an new ati proprietary driver issued 3 days ago or so , but I don't think it solves the X shutoff issue
[03:48] <epimeth> the guy with the n100 didn't say whether or not it worked for him
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: drivers probably, can you do a "ctrl+alt+f2"
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Blues.. I just got this yesterday.,
[03:48] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: no, i cant even get in in the first place unless i use recovery mode.
[03:48] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: what I did find was that the ubuntu wiki claims the feisty install worked out of the box....
[03:48] <vbgunz> WillLuongo: df
[03:48] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: so I emailed the contact person asking for help
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: yeah.. good idea
[03:49] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: And then if i type 'kdm' with it set to "VESA", i lose monitor. if i set to "ATI", it blinks once and then claims kdm is going when its not
[03:49] <mcrandello> ctrl alt f7?
[03:49] <vbgunz> I have the binary nvidia driver *but* I never reran it when I upgraded to Feisty.. do I need to OR should I reinstall with the new kernel or something?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: when it blinks, go  to ctrl+alt f7
[03:49] <BluesKaj> well wiki claims are editable to some degree , so they aren't quite right sometimes
[03:49] <mcrandello> of course kdm could be going regardless of display
[03:49] <WillLuongo> vbgunz: Thanks
[03:49] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: What should that do?
[03:50] <vbgunz> WillLuongo: np :)
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> sitch to the X terminal
[03:50] <mcrandello> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:50] <rustin> hello, anybody can help me with audacity?
[03:50] <lovloss> Well im already in the x terminal if im running recovery mode
[03:50] <mcrandello> f7 = the framebuffer that X lives on
[03:50] <BluesKaj> this small font display bothers..just reset the resolution , so I'll brb
[03:50] <mcrandello> oh
[03:51] <lovloss> Even the loading screen makes my monitor go off if i start it the other way
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm... can you log in from the console when you do normal mode?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> alt-f2
[03:52] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: No if i try to log in regularily it will attempt the loading screen and the monitor will blink oiut
[03:52] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: But i would like to point out. On the live cd, if i press f4 and set a resolution, the loading screen works! Then it blinks out after that
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> ouch....umm...edit the grub boot line, erase the "splash"and " quite"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> that'll give you a command prompt
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> at least
[03:53] <vbgunz> in grep, how do I create a group with an OR pipe? e.g., (^Filesystem|^/) ?
[03:53] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Recovery mode puts you in a command prompt anyway
[03:53] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: I can get that far
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: I thought you just said you were in x?
[03:54] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: No, i cant get in x. My monitor blinks out.
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> ah...
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> thats very weird... this isn't a laptop?
[03:54] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Nope, its a pc
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> hmm... does it have an onboard video?
[03:54] <rustin> knellotron: yes
[03:55] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: i believe it might. would it help to try moving the cable over?
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> well.. you won't be able to use the ati...
[03:55] <illriginal> Bogus IP Header? >.>
[03:55] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Yeah, i know... i really would like to be able to
[03:55] <illriginal> someone sent me bogus IP headers
[03:55] <rustin> knellotron: is pvt blocked?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: I don't  have a clue what your problem might be.... hmm... try setting the sync ranges REALLY wide in the xorg...
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> it can't hurt anything...
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> as long as its an LCD
[03:56] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: LCD? i wish.
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: its not?
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Im behind the times arent i
[03:57] <mcrandello> whats really wierd is if i spin the mouse in a circle i get 40 kBps, figure 8 gets me >100
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: its one of those deep ones
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> then check up the manual on it somewhere, find the sync ranges..
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:57] <mcrandello> moving the mouse side to side is 75
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> crts are nice..good response times
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: the manual lol. i wonder how many years its been since i had that thing
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: the internet..maybe the back of the monitor itself... you need the sync ranges
[03:58] <vbgunz> did knetworkmanager OBSOLETE wireless lan assistant (wlassitant)?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: sorta..
[03:58] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: all i know is that i ran edgy eft on a different box on this machine for a long time
[03:58] <mcrandello> since this is the vesa and not the fglrx driver should I file a bug with the kernel? It appears to be the ATIIXP driver
[03:58] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: *on this monitor
[03:58] <rustin> knellotron: guess i need register
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm... interesting..can you get the sync ranges from that machine?
[03:59] <rr72> im back
[03:59] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Unfortunately it was obliterated in the same car wreck that broke my femur.
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: ouch.
[03:59] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: bad week. very bad
[03:59] <rr72> im the guy with the wireless card problem who got it to work under xubuntu
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> rr72: thats always nice
[03:59] <knellotron> ruskin: what's your question?
[03:59] <mcrandello> rr72, you are my hero
[03:59] <Jack32> hmm, is there a way to get rid of these dialog boxes that pop down when hovering over, "minimize window" "close window" "expand"
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> I know the answer...
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> 42
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: So i get back from the hospital and now im stuck on a windoze computer, already getting viruses, already stressing out about some of its limitation, and knowing no way out
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm..
[04:00] <mcrandello> I'm the guy who has to move his mouse or the wifi blows up
[04:00] <mcrandello> ;_;
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> do you have and edgy cd?
[04:00] <mcrandello> it's like a mentally challenged version of that movie speed
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Somewhere. I dont forsee it being different.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: but it might...
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> mcrandello i was just thinking of that movie
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: It wouldn work anyway, though. this one is 64 bit architecture, thats new
[04:00] <WillLuongo> My trashcan disappeared. How can I get it back?
[04:01] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: AND its on a SATA
[04:01] <red22> nosrednaekim: i'm here
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> at least it doesnt have to do 60
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> 32 works on 64 bit computers
[04:01] <newGuy> Hey, is there a way to set up windows games (like city of heroes) to work in kubuntu?
[04:01] <vbgunz> "mentally challenged version of that movie speed" <- thats hot!
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> red22: fix our problem?
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> newGuy: WINE
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[04:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:02] <newGuy> I tried to get wine with the package manager it was some
[04:02] <newGuy> I tried to get wine with the package manager it was some 'dummy package'
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: so did you file a bug report?
[04:02] <WillLuongo> !trash
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <WillLuongo> !trashcan
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trashcan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <lovloss> well cy aguys, im going to go try stuff, likely fail and mope about it... byebye
[04:02] <vbgunz> how stable did WINE get with Steam?
[04:02] <red22> nosrednaekim: i've been trying some updates to ubuntu/gnome stuff and i'm gonna restart to see.  if not i'm not sure what else to try other than reinstall xorg or kde..
[04:02] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: not yet , I'm hoping I can figure out what's wrong
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> red22: sorry what was your problem again?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: could it be DPMS?
[04:03] <newGuy> Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package)
[04:03] <newGuy> This is a dummy package to ease upgrade from users of old libwine-* packages to the newer wine package. It can be safely removed at any time.
[04:03] <newGuy> That is what it says for libwine
[04:03] <rustin> knellotron: there's a "register command"?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim:  DPMS?
[04:04] <vbgunz> can WINE work with a dual boot PC, can it use my already existing Windows partition for it's programs?
[04:04] <jason_> hi guys sup
[04:04] <knellotron> rustin: just ask your question here.
[04:04] <Gabz> vbgunz: i'm using crossover office with stream... it works just poor fps in CSS
[04:05] <rustin> knellotron: thanks
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: :O
[04:05] <red22> nosrednaekim: i can't log out correctly... just dies to non-graphical/console login.  althought when you restart, the gui login screen starts up fine.
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: you have the binary driver for your video card?
[04:05] <Gabz> Gabz: no i'm just using the packaged one
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: so you not using the binary driver for your card?
[04:06] <Gabz> vbgunz: no packaged and i only have a 1.6 mhz processor
[04:06] <BluesKaj> red22: ati card I bet :(
[04:06] <vbgunz> Gabz: 1.6MHz processor? wow, you lucky if you can run a stop watch ;)
[04:06] <red22> blueskaj: you bet.  seems to be cornering the market on kubuntu headaches?
[04:07] <rustin> well, my mic is ok but i can't record sound... can anybody help me?
[04:07] <vbgunz> Gabz: you're going to get wack fps without the binary driver if you running Nvidia or ATI, try installing the binary and then tell me what the fps is like (if you can)
[04:07] <BluesKaj> yup red22. so it seems
[04:07] <Gabz> vbgunz: thanks for the tip i'll try it later...
[04:08] <vbgunz> rustin: if you get an answer that works for you, please share it with me if I miss it. I tried this a long time ago and gave up :(
[04:08] <red22> blueskaj: it's weird though bc everything else works fine after instaling the prop.drivers.. even the beryl candy without much trouble..
[04:08] <Gabz> rustin: which program are you recording in ?
[04:09] <rustin> vbgunz: i'm trying audacity and the kde recorder
[04:09] <rustin> sorry
[04:09] <rustin> Gabz:
[04:09] <rustin> :)
[04:09] <lunar-raven> !beryl
[04:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <rr72> why does my kubuntu desktop cd live crash when i enter in the exact same commands in as when i boot up a xubuntu live desktop cd and that doesnt crash? yes i MD5SUM the kubuntu cd
[04:10] <Gabz> right click on the speaker in the bottom corner click show mixer window and go to the input tab
[04:10] <Gabz> make sure your mic is selected and the volumne is up
[04:10] <vbgunz> Gabz: kmix?
[04:10] <Gabz> yep kmix
[04:11] <vbgunz> ok I need a way to test it, what would you suggest?
[04:11] <Gabz> vbgunz: i've only used a mic for skype in linux...
[04:11] <rustin> Gabz: the mic's green light is on... the red too
[04:11] <vbgunz> Gabz: yeah, once I tried for that reason too but failed miserably
[04:12] <vbgunz> rustin: green is mute
[04:12] <vbgunz> rustin: or vice versa, hover over the light
[04:12] <Gabz> check that you might also have caputure device depending on your sound card
[04:14] <Gabz> vbgunz: rustin there has i've also had a problem with kmix not doing it's job right in konsole you can use alsamixer which is worth the go
[04:15] <rustin> Gabz: i don't have this...
[04:15] <rustin> oh, forget what i saw
[04:16] <vbgunz> Gabz: I went nuts in alsamixer once, I thought I botched my system sound, later found out it was kleansweep removing dead menu entries that were'nt exact dead :P
[04:16] <mcrandello> interesting the fglrx driver that came with feisty only works after installing libstdc++.s0.5
[04:17] <BluesKaj> red22, I'm not a real fan of automatic installers like Envy but it helped in dapper ...dunno if it's upgraded to Feisty yet
[04:18] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: still here?
[04:18] <nosrednaeki1> I fixed it
[04:19] <rustin> Gabz: i enabled all the controls... same results
[04:19] <vecina> Its me, lovloss. I got in by switching the graphics driver to fgxlfx or whatever but now im having a new poblem
[04:19] <vecina> Why isnt my external HD mounting automatically?
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> how do i dissable sleep mode and such..
[04:20] <BluesKaj> yup nosrednaeki, just installing some apps , so I'm back and forth
[04:21] <Gabz> rustin: i don't have a mic attached to this computer and it's been awhile sorry i'm not going to be much more help
[04:22] <rustin> Gabz: no problem... thank you very much :)
[04:22] <mcrandello> ah success
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> umm...
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> anyone still around?
[04:23] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, how did you fix it ?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> I have absolutely no idea..
[04:24] <BluesKaj> :) !!
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> I added the llines from that ubuntu forums page
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> to the gdm (but I'm not using GDM!)
[04:24] <vbgunz> im telling you setting up a mic in KDE is a pain in the ass, I never got it to work, am failing miserably now... I remember though it was a snap in Ubuntu
[04:24] <BluesKaj> URL ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> 1 sec
[04:24] <chemicalvamp> how do you change power management settings? like turning off monitor when idle, or harddisk?
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254167&page=4
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> now its working...
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> IDK..
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> weird
[04:25] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source libstdc++5, blow away everything in lib that said fglrx, then run the 8.36.5 installer, go into /lib/modules/fglrx/build-mod and ./make.sh cd .. ./make_install.sh and that did it
[04:25] <BluesKaj> thx nosrednaekim
[04:25] <mcrandello> quite the cowboy method
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> hope it works...i'm going to try loggin out again to be sure... cross your finders..
[04:26] <mcrandello> not to see if the irq conflicts are gone
[04:26] <mcrandello> *now
[04:27] <vecina> how do you mount devices its not automatically recognizing
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> vecina what device
[04:28] <vecina> chemicalvamp: in this case, i just plugged in a jumpdrive. no response
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> ok..on  second try...nothing... very weird
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> WIAT!
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> try a Ctrl+alt+backspace right from KDE...
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> it'll give you a kdm screen i'll bet!
[04:31] <rr72> lol it would be funny if half the room quit
[04:31] <jordo23> Anyone here setup Wordpress in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> thats the one thing I did different the other rime
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> so we need KDM to automatically restart X or something...
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> like that GDM fix
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you hear all that?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> no such file in my setup as the URL
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: say again?
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: that was a tutorial for if you were using GDM
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> anyway...I have to go.... we'll figure it out later..
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:33] <BluesKaj> ok cya
[04:34] <mcrandello> whee blazing fast wifi and accellerated X
[04:35] <rr72> whys is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?
[04:35] <vbgunz> Gabz: i partially got the mic successful... i can hear myselk through my speakers with krec *but* i never managed to record sound :(
[04:35] <vecina> oops
[04:36] <vecina> sorry guys i miffed my connection... anyone know why i cant seem to get anything to mount?
[04:36] <wolferine> whats an app to test writes to a hd?
[04:36] <Gabz> vbgunz: that's more your recording program doesn't see the mic as the recording source
[04:36] <vbgunz> wolferine: maybe hdparm
[04:36] <rr72> why is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?
[04:36] <wolferine> right
[04:36] <wolferine> thats it
[04:36] <rr72> !kernel
[04:36] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:37] <vbgunz> Gabz: only through the program I heard my voice in my speakers but krec never really recorded it... maybe I need another recorder :P
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: OK! when you hard exit KDE with ctrl+altbkspce, log back in, and then log off normally it doesn';t freeze
[04:37] <jordo23> I am trying to install Wordpress for Ubuntu, and have installed the package. Does anyone know of a link or site of what to do next to link it to my LAMP components?
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> sorry had come back when I discovered that
[04:37] <vecina> :,(
[04:38] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: weird :)
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> yep... at least we can log out... somehow..
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:39] <vecina> so... how do you make ubuntu mount something you plug in, say, a jump drive...?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> sounds like there are 2 X's running
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah.....
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> you're right..
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> i'm showing one now...but I killed that other one..
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> (if there was another one)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> whats your list of running programs say?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> what sound card do you have , nosrednaekim
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> realtek 883
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> HD audio
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> why?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> does your digital out work. ?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> spidf? I don't know..
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> how can I check?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: why, do you have the same chipset?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> I'm running a coax to my tv room audio system that accepts pcm signals
[04:43] <rr72> ugh ugh yuk yum
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> reall can't help with that... and I REALLY have to run now..
[04:43] <BluesKaj> the sound is DAC'd on windows but not on Feisty
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> good luck with the fglrx-Xorg-problem
[04:44] <vbgunz> Gabz: wow, if not for rustin I would not have tried setting up my mic again! I got it to work, I used "krecord" instead of "krec"... my mic does work on Kubuntu :)
[04:44] <vbgunz> Gabz: thanks!
[04:44] <BluesKaj> well, i just want DRI for google earth and that's fine for me...the beryl eye candy is just window dressing
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> Ctrl+alt +bkspce s your friend lol..
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> try it,,
[04:45] <vecina> When i stick a USB stick in, it should read it and something should pop up, right? Because im trying it... nothing
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> vecina: try another usb port
[04:46] <vecina> nosrednaekim: Tried :/
[04:47] <madmike> wow i relllly hope all this werid stuff thats been goin on to my box here was just my hard drive dieing
[04:49] <vbgunz> it's not always good to "just" hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... I learned a few days ago by someone in here, it is always best to logout first, then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:49] <red22> blueskaj, what problem logging out do you have again?
[04:50] <mcrandello> personally I hold down the power button until I hear a "clunk" but that comes from previous ati driver problems
[04:50] <BluesKaj> X keeps trying reload , then it just stalls at a black screen
[04:51] <red22> blueskaj: that happens when you log out from your session? the first login after a restart works fine?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:51] <BluesKaj> red22 it clicks off and on about 3 times then just stalls
[04:53] <red22> blueskaj: what you running? window manager and distro version... i have feisty and kde with gnome also installed.
[04:54] <BluesKaj> no gnome
[04:54] <BluesKaj> just kde
[04:54] <chipbuddy> hey, are there any programmers here?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:54] <Gabz> !printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:54] <red22> blueskaj: hm i thought maybe it was the combination that had screwed it up...
[04:55] <BluesKaj> ok ,brb
[04:55] <red22> ok c ya later
[04:56] <jlilly> my sound isn't working. its onboard sound for an ASUS M2N-MX mobo. How do I check if drivers are loaded for it?
[04:58] <hawk__> hello everyone i need to know what to do about the dvds not playing
[04:59] <martalli> hawk__, Did you install the libdvdcss?
[05:00] <hawk__> thanx man that is what it was
[05:00] <martalli> np
[05:01] <martalli> jlilly, Sometimes the volume just isn;'t turned up in the mixer
[05:02] <hawk__> apt dos not show anything under that name
[05:02] <martalli> hawk__, Did you enable all the repositories?
[05:02] <hawk__> 7.0 how do you do that
[05:02] <FenrisUy> hi, first linux install ever, anyone knows how to set the display to show 1440x900 in hp pavillion dv9000 laptop with nvidia 7600 go?
[05:03] <FenrisUy> linux instal is kubuntu 7.04
[05:03] <martalli> hawk__, Open adept, click onthe  "Adept" menu (first ont he left) and then click manage repositories
[05:03] <hawk__> ok did that and it says that we have all the reps don
[05:04] <TheDebugger> Anyway... libdvdcss2 is NOT in default repos
[05:04] <TheDebugger> libdvdread does contain a script to install it though
[05:05] <martalli> I installed mine with the medibuntu repo, but I don't thin that is really recommended
[05:05] <TheDebugger> same
[05:06] <martalli> TheDebugger, How do you start the scriupt from the libdvdread package?
[05:06] <martalli> U guess we should keep our odvice ont he kubutnu channel as close to vanilla as possible
[05:06] <hawk__> but it was before in 6.10
[05:06] <jlilly> martalli: it was in this case, but I have to head home now. I'll probably ask about it later.
[05:07] <martalli> jlilly, OK.  Someone here will probably try to help
[05:07] <martalli> jlilly, g'night
[05:07] <TheDebugger> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:09] <martalli> nice trick - thanks for the advice
[05:09] <hawk__> !dvd
[05:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:09] <martalli> hawk__, If you run that, you will need to run it as a root user ("sudo..."
[05:10] <wersdaluv> can someone help me with raki? I'm sorry if this is off topic. it's my first time here
[05:10] <martalli> what's raki?
[05:10] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm having trouble getting kooka to recognise my scanner (an HP C3180). Is there an alternate way of setting it up?  I have the hplip driver loaded for what that's worth
[05:11] <wersdaluv> raki is an active sync substitute
[05:11] <vecina> Why do i have to put in the feisty cd to apitiude install stuff ? i didnt have to do that with edgy
[05:12] <martalli> Bearcat, I think you have to run a specific setup program... try "hp-setup": or "sudo hp-setup" fromt he CLI
[05:12] <martalli> vecina, Just disable the CD repo in adept
[05:12] <Bearcat> martalli: thanks. I'll try that.
[05:13] <Tony_> anyone here have 1680x1050 res working and care to share their xorg.conf?
[05:14] <martalli> vecina, Hmm - I didn't see the cd in adept
[05:14] <wersdaluv> does anyone here know how to  configure Raki.. I tried to start dccm but...
[05:14] <vecina> i cant even get into adept
[05:14] <wersdaluv> "could not start dccm or dccm has exited"
[05:15] <Bearcat> martalli: there doesn't seem to be such a command (unless i am missing a package).
[05:15] <vecina> oh im installing
[05:15] <martalli> Bearcat, I seem to have it...hmm
[05:16] <vecina> My nedxt problem is that im in recovery mode because i have to configure xserver to the fglrx driver. I want it to stay that way whejn i run it normally, but it switches to VESA and crashes
[05:16] <vecina> under VESA my monitor loses connection
[05:16] <Bearcat> martalli: (i'm a sourcemage user working on someone eles pc so i dont' know debian that well). What package is it from?
[05:17] <martalli> Bearcat, I think hplip, which is installed by default, I thought
[05:17] <Bearcat> martalli: yeah, i have that installed
[05:17] <martalli> Triid typing "sudo hp-setup" fromt he command line?
[05:17] <martalli> Alternatively, try "sudo apt-get install hp-setup"
[05:18] <Bearcat> martalli: thanks. I'll try that as soon as adept finishes. Are the repositores extra slow tonight or is it just me?
[05:19] <martalli> Bearcat, I think that the repos have been running slower since the release last week.  Usually my speeds from the repo are 3-4 times faster
[05:20] <alex_> hey - when i'm putting a USB thumdrive into my laptop kubuntu isn't automatically recognizing it and putting it in the Removable media folder.  Could someone give me a hand on how I can make it work?
[05:20] <alex_> :)
[05:20] <vecina> *points to alex* In answering him I , too , shall be answered *ignignok voice*
[05:20] <stanley> is anyone using kubuntu 7.04?
[05:21] <wersdaluv> is the thumbdrive the only usb device with the problem?
[05:21] <alex_> stanley: probably most ppl
[05:21] <vecina> We await your response, earthlings. >.>
[05:21] <alex_> wersdaluv: i have not used any other USB device.  :/
[05:21] <alex_> nothing else to test it with..
[05:21] <martalli> Not much reason to use edgy anymore and dapper is very long in the tooth (maybe nice for servers)
[05:21] <Bearcat> martalli: there is no hp-setup program that i can find..hmm.. Is there a way to search the package directory to get a listing of what package a file comes from?
[05:21] <alex_> It may be formatted FAT32.  I'm pretty sure, actually..
[05:21] <stanley> ok
[05:21] <stanley> has anyone installed kdm?
[05:22] <martalli> Bearcat, I have been looking around and cannot find another package name for it
[05:22] <wersdaluv> oh... try another usb device first.. as for my case, before, all my usb devices did not work
[05:22] <stanley> on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:22] <alex_> i don't have a USB device to try with
[05:22] <alex_> :(
[05:22] <alex_> (besides the flash drive i'm trying to make work)
[05:23] <martalli> Bearcat, Did you just do a full update?
[05:23] <martalli> Do you get very many packages?  I wonder if it came as an update...
[05:23] <Bearcat> martalli: nope. And apparently it does come with the hplip program but i dont' seem to have it.
[05:25] <stanley> alex have u installed kdm on 7.04??
[05:25] <alex_> kdm..  hmm.
[05:26] <martalli> Bearcat, Hmm.  I wonder if "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-meta" might work (http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/04/hplip-in-feisty.html)
[05:26] <alex_> it's showing that it's installed in Adept.
[05:26] <alex_> yep!
[05:26] <martalli> bearcat.  Another alternative might be: sudo apt-get hpijs-ppds
[05:27] <alex_> it's an imation USB 2.0 2 GB flash drive
[05:27] <wersdaluv> alex, are you using a laptop?
[05:27] <alex_> no idea why it wouldn't be recognized..
[05:27] <alex_> yes, i am!  :)  It's an acer.
[05:27] <alex_> (wonderful, i know)
[05:27] <Bearcat> martalli: well, since i'm trying to get the scanner working i think installing hipjs would be a step backward, don't you?
[05:27] <morphius_> I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:
[05:27] <morphius_> warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected
[05:27] <morphius_> Internal error: memory corruption detected
[05:27] <morphius_> Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 0
[05:27] <morphius_> When I connect, I can enter my pwd and then it does not log me in.
[05:27] <alex_> Kubuntu as actually been pretty friendly with it.  :)
[05:27] <stanley> so alex have u changed ur login theme??
[05:27] <wersdaluv> type dmesg in the terminal
[05:27] <stanley> are u able to??
[05:27] <martalli> Bearcat, maybe so...
[05:28] <alex_> stanley - no, i haven't.  I could try if you wish.  My problem is a USB 2.0 drive problem though..  unless there's another alex with an issue that i'm not seeing..
[05:28] <vecina>  How come when i reload the computer it automatically sets my xserver back to VESA? i have to go to recoverty mode and change it to fglrx each time or the monitor will cut signal!
[05:28] <wersdaluv> stanley, you can change your login screen in kcontrolcenter
[05:28] <alex_> i'm using beryl (emerald) for my theme..
[05:28] <Bearcat> martalli: i'm kinda assuming that the scanner functionality will only work with the true hplip driver.
[05:28] <martalli> Im just trying to find the package that has hp-setup...honestly, I don't think I did anything special.  However, I started with feisty onthe beta...I don't think that would make a difference
[05:28] <wersdaluv> alex, type dmesg in the terminal
[05:28] <alex_> dmesg
[05:28] <alex_> er
[05:28] <alex_> (heh)
[05:28] <wersdaluv> yes
[05:29] <wersdaluv> damn
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> is there any way to undo a rm command
[05:29] <wersdaluv> in konsole
[05:29] <martalli> Bearcat, Another solution would be to try reinstalling hplip (sudo aptitude reinstall hplip)
[05:30] <martalli> Bearcat, sudo aptitude reinstall hplip hplip-data
[05:30] <stanley> yea but when i use kcontrolcentre wersdaluv there is no administrator mode buttin
[05:30] <Bearcat> martalli: will that force a redownload of the file?
[05:30] <martalli> I believe so
[05:30] <stanley> so i am not able to change my theme
[05:30] <alex_> i'm trying to paste this crazy message from the dmesg
[05:31] <martalli> However, I can't see why a frsh install would have that broken...It's just a though, those are the only hplip packages I have installed
[05:31] <wersdaluv> alex, dont you have any other usb device like a usb mouse or something?
[05:31] <Bearcat> martalli: and furthermore 0.9.7 is really old!
[05:31] <alex_> wers..  hmm. YEs!  I think i have a mouse.  brb
[05:32] <martalli> Bearcat, Current version in feisty is 1.7.3
[05:32] <Bearcat> martalli: how do i get that?
[05:32] <Bearcat> is "feisty" stable?
[05:32] <alex_> okay
[05:32] <alex_> optical mouse is installed
[05:32] <alex_> and working
[05:33] <martalli> Bearcat:  What is the output of: lsb_release -d
[05:33] <alex_> it started working immediately
[05:33] <don_> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <wersdaluv> you mean the mouse is working properly?
[05:33] <wersdaluv> mouse pointer is not slow or something
[05:33] <wersdaluv> ?
[05:33] <alex_> nope
[05:33] <alex_> working fine :)
[05:33] <Bearcat> martalli: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:33] <wersdaluv> so the problem is with the thumbdrive
[05:33] <martalli> Bearcat, You're using Dapper - I am on feisty
[05:33] <don_> what is the best guide beryl
[05:34] <alex_> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=77437
[05:34] <wersdaluv> alex, are you using feisty?
[05:34] <alex_> Yes I am wersdaluv
[05:34] <Bearcat> martalli: how do i switch up? Download a Cd and reinstall?
[05:34] <martalli> You can simply apt-get your way up
[05:34] <se7en> where could i find (log) more infos if a program crashes all the time
[05:34] <martalli> Hmmm.
[05:34] <alex_> that nomorepasting.com link is my dmesg by the way
[05:34] <wersdaluv> have you tried the thumbdrive with another computer?
[05:35] <alex_> yeah, it works
[05:35] <alex_> even in my dvd player w/ USB port it works
[05:35] <martalli> Bearcat, I don't know if you can directly upgrade from dapper to feisty.  Instead - upgrade from dapper-> edgy -> feisty
[05:35] <alex_> when i plug it in, i see a little light on the drive light up too
[05:35] <Bearcat> martalli: what is the most efficient way of doing that?
[05:35] <wersdaluv> no pop-up when you plug the thumbdrive?
[05:35] <alex_> nope :/
[05:36] <wersdaluv> does a usb icon appear on the desktop?
[05:36] <wersdaluv> it's supposed to appear there
[05:36] <alex_> no, no USB icon.  nothing in /media
[05:37] <wersdaluv> that's really strange... what's the brand of the thumbdrive?
[05:37] <alex_> imation
[05:37] <wersdaluv> i got my kingston working out of the box...
[05:37] <wersdaluv> i dont know about that
[05:37] <alex_> yeah
[05:37] <alex_> thanks for your help by the way - very nice of you
[05:37] <martalli> Bearcat, Here is the standard way to upgrade versions from dapper: gksu update-manager -c 
[05:38] <wersdaluv> try searching the forums with the right keywords
[05:38] <alex_> i'll make sure to help someone else in the same fashion
[05:38] <alex_> okay
[05:38] <alex_> :D
[05:38] <martalli> Bearcat, wait a sec on that
[05:38] <wersdaluv> haha.. that's nice alex.. someone else helped me this way too.. even better.. haha
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | Bearcat
[05:39] <ubotu> Bearcat: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:40] <alex_> hey Bearcat - use Adept
[05:40] <alex_> under System
[05:40] <alex_> :)
[05:40] <martalli> Bearcat, First you will need to upgrade to edgy
[05:40] <Bearcat> alex_: i'm there
[05:40] <alex_> just launch it - it should give you a message saying there's an upgrade available
[05:40] <martalli> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417644
[05:40] <alex_> okay - have you updated it?
[05:40] <epimeth> might as well try again.... long story short: brand new lenovo laptop, sound not working... aparently a known problem: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2725
[05:41] <jodas> Hey does anyone know how to use AC3d?
[05:41] <jodas> Or Povray?
[05:41] <epimeth> however, the person who has what might be my laptop (doesnt specify model, only make) does not post if it solved his problem
[05:41] <Bearcat> alex_: yup
[05:41] <Bearcat> there is no gksu command
[05:41] <Bearcat> ...wierd
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Bearcat: kdesu, I think
[05:42] <jodas> Does anyone know how to use Povray?
[05:42] <martalli> Bearcat, Try just sudoupdate-manager -c 
[05:42] <jodas> Which channel should I go to for this?
[05:42] <martalli> woops: sudo update-manager -c 
[05:43] <epimeth> also, no explanation of how to install the patch...
[05:43] <Bearcat> martalli: "update-manager" is not on my system
[05:46] <Bearcat> ok, update-manager wants a bunch of gnome stuff
[05:46] <Bearcat> *sigh*
[05:46] <martalli> Not ideal
[05:47] <Bearcat> ok, i'm doing it anway :)
[05:47] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyway of backing up your settings if you want to flatten and reinstall
[05:47] <martalli> Bearcat - That will probably be fine
[05:47] <martalli> Is this kubuntu dapper?
[05:48] <Bearcat> yup
[05:48] <Bearcat> and i watch the downloads error out as they have been all night, as i try them again and again. It takes about 5 times
[05:49] <martalli> Bearcat, I am surprised that the dapper repos are that busy
[05:50] <martalli> Just how much custom stuff does your friend have?
[05:51] <epimeth> what version of KDE is included in feisty?  also, how would I check it myself?
[05:51] <Bearcat> martalli: almost nothing
[05:51] <martalli> Maybe it would work better just to download a new install disk a start over...that's what's necessary for most other distros, and with the busy distros you will apparently be waiting a long time.  otoh, I head that there wre 6000 ubuntu cd seeders tha day after the distro came out
[05:52] <martalli> You might have the desktop install cd downloaded in 2-3 hours if you have a fast connection
[05:53] <Kaepora> can kubuntu support my ATI mobility radeon x1400 card???
[05:53] <mark__> yes
[05:53] <mark__> it can
[05:54] <Bearcat> martalli: they have dial-up :(
[05:54] <Kaepora> mark__: how?
[05:54] <Kaepora> i can't getr past a 1024x768 res :(
[05:54] <Bearcat> martalli: so if i just download a CD i can upgrade this easily by that method.
[05:54] <mark__> you'd have to install an xorg driver and properly configure your xorg.conf to use that driver
[05:54] <martalli> Bearcat, That might be part of the problem withthe repos, too
[05:54] <mark__> is pretty much the jist of it
[05:54] <martalli> Bearcat, I would just reinstall of the cd
[05:55] <Bearcat> martalli: won't that distroy the current installed package informatoin etc?
[05:55] <martalli> Bearcat, There are sveeral options - you would upgrade off the dvd or "alternative" install disk (I  don't think the desktop install can do that)
[05:56] <martalli> Like most distro - their info will be safe to reinstall if they have kept a separate /home partition.  If you want to upgrade, get both the install disks for edgy and feisty
[05:56] <martalli> First upgrade to edgy, then to feisty
[05:57] <martalli> Do they have a dvd drive?  You would be better off getting the dvd install disks
[05:57] <Bearcat> yup, they do
[05:57] <martalli> With the computer on, you just plop in the disk and the computer will say something like "A new distribution volume is available, would you like to upgrade"
[05:58] <martalli> The dvd install disks will have everything you need:  Check out torrent.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <Bearcat> i was tempted to just install sourcemage for them, but it's not user friendly. All set up is manual and they are very much newbies
[05:58] <martalli>  Bearcat *buntu is very user friendly
[05:59] <martalli> Way past my initial introduction to mandrake
[05:59] <Bearcat> right, that's why i picked it for them
[05:59] <Bearcat> i was damned if i was gonna let them buy Vista!
[06:00] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone have a list of what automatix does and what packages it installs for each option, so I don't have to use it and fuck up my kubuntu install?
[06:00] <martalli> Bearcat, that's for certain - I have heard plenty of professional its folks quite upset with vista
[06:00] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Check out the automatix website
[06:00] <don_> !dvd
[06:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:01] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, It will tell you what it installs, although they update it frequently and it develops and loses functionality over time
[06:02] <bluekitsune> drat
[06:02] <Bearcat> martalli:  http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20070418/   I don't see an edgy torrent. I can't go straight to feisty?
[06:02] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: i mostly just want it for installing all the media codecs and auto-detecting and mounting my ntfs drives and marking them read/write
[06:02] <martalli> Bearcat, I don't think so.  I would just reinstall if that is possible
[06:02] <bluekitsune> How to i set up the nvidea drivers in feisty?
[06:02] <bluekitsune> nvidea*
[06:03] <bluekitsune> er
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia
[06:03] <bluekitsune> Ya
[06:03] <bluekitsune> XD
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> !ati
[06:03] <Doctor_Nick> !nvidia
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <Doctor_Nick> i think it hates you hitmanWilly
[06:03] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Supposedly it will install codecs automatifcally on its own
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> apparently... :(
[06:03] <martalli> (I mean feisty)
[06:03] <Bearcat> thank you martalli. I'm gonna scamper off and help them next week after i've downloaded the dissc
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: this is false
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> only mp3s
[06:04] <jordo23> Where do you manage Remote desktop in Kubuntu Feisty?  The Create and Manage Invitations is gone....
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> (on kubuntu, at least)
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> and that's just amarok
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> yeah :/
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> and amarok crashes when you open an mp3
[06:04] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Yeah, I actually used the medibuntu repos, because I started witht he beta and it never offered me codecs
[06:05] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: I know about the medibuntu repos, but there's other packages that it installs too
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> martalli, they have a package ubuntu-restricted-extras that installs all that stuff
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> martalli, ie mp3, flash, java, etc.
[06:05] <dennister> k...bout to take the plunge: edgy to feisty...server first, clean install.........hmmm.....anyone here installed mythtv on feisty yet?
[06:06] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, I used it for edgy without problems, but it as hard upgrading to feisty
[06:06] <bluekitsune> geez
[06:06] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: I know, that's why I dont want to use it
[06:06] <dennister> the howto for feisty says to do the nvidia proprietary drivers *after* mythtv install...in edgy you did it *before* any mythtv stuff
[06:07] <jordo23> !vnc
[06:07] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:07] <bluekitsune> I cant seem to get my vid card to work at all
[06:09] <Bearcat> *scampers off*
[06:10] <morphius_> How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[06:11] <don_> cant get dvd to play
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !libdvdcss
[06:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:12] <don_> i have downlaoded dvdlibcss2 but it still want play anyone have ideas
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, don_ sorry I'm a bit busy atm to help
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> don_, did you run the script that libdvdcss2 came with?
[06:12] <don_> no what is that
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> don_, look at the ubotu link for setting it up
[06:14] <chemicalvamp> my res is stuck at 640x480! how do i get it back to 1024x768?.. (i crashed AGAIN and now its all fucked up)
[06:15] <don_> it says no script found
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> don_, you also need libdvdread3
[06:15] <don_> i got that one two
[06:16] <don_> i have it but it still say there no file
[06:16] <chemicalvamp> actually im supposed to have 1280x800 any ideas?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> don_, the path is incorrect, its /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/
[06:17] <don_> cool man thanx got it working
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> don_, took me a little bit to find it too
[06:18] <chemicalvamp> !ati>chemicalvamp
[06:19] <dac> I need a 20, 40, 60, 80 GBHD for an packard bell box, any suggestions?
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> im having some bad issues here, if anybody can help
[06:22] <orco> Saludos a todos
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:23] <orco> Gracias
[06:24] <jordo23> Can someone tell my why I have tightvnc server running but cannot for the life of me connect to it when the correct ports are forwarded?
[06:25] <jordo23> !vnc
[06:25] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:26] <crabgrass> partitioning question: i have a drive, and i need a reiser partition for my os (/ as the mount point, i assume) an ext3 partition for my stuff (/home as mount point, i think) and a swap partition, but... i don't know how to set this up in 7.04's guided partitioner. can anyone help?
[06:31] <chemicalvamp> can anybody tell me why edgy crashes while doing nothing, then reverted to the defualt MESA diver... nd wont take the fglrx driver?
[06:38] <chemicalvamp> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[06:42] <morphius_> How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[06:43] <lettuce_> I just reinstalled kubuntu, and browsing the web is slow. I remember that there's a quick way to fix it but I forget how, help please :(
[06:43] <morphius_> try disabling ipv6
[06:43] <chemicalvamp> ahouls i Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[06:44] <lettuce_> thank you
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> !ipv6
[06:45] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:02] <dani> hy i use the kclean to wipe junk files but now my fiesty won't boot
[07:03] <JackPhil> if konsole scrolled, the screen will not be refreshed clearly
[07:04] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to view video RAM size?
[07:04] <JackPhil> is it about fonts?
[07:06] <darryl> in redhat I can send email using mail command - in Kubuntu this command seems to be missing - what is the command to send emali from comand line
[07:06] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: 'free -m'
[07:06] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: you can also do 'cat /proc/meminfo' for more info.
[07:07] <Doctor_Nick> matt damon wont stop calling her
[07:08] <fdoving> darryl: it's in the 'mailx' package.
[07:08] <darryl> fdoving: thanks
[07:09] <Grape_Juice> Don't forget mailutils. :)
[07:10] <Grape_Juice> Those are handy...
[07:10] <fdoving> off to work. bye,.,
[07:12] <chemicalvamp> fdoving i dont see my video on there, but thanks
[07:21] <chemicalvamp> There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.
[07:21] <premier_> hello, I'm trying to get my computer to execute a shell script everytime I press the Multimedia play pause button, but its giving me a lot of greif
[07:22] <premier_> when I press the button, I get a little box in the upper right hand corner of the screen, which says:
[07:23] <danikhan> hy
[07:23] <premier_> "XF86AudioPause" over and over again.  I can click on it and it will do different things, none of them being things I want them to do
[07:26] <premier_> also, I can't play or pause music, or mute, or anything, when the screen is locked-- I assume that the screen locker prevents amarok from recieving my multimedia keys.  Is there a way around this?
[07:28] <david_> Hi.... I'm trying to get WINE working and it's not letting me browse files or add a virtual C drive.... not sure what do do... I even re-installed it.. same thing
[07:29] <premier_> david_ what do you mean?  What are you trying to do?
[07:29] <supergimp> anyone know how to "poke" open arena through my guarddog firewall?
[07:29] <david_> I just want to use wine to install a program... I open Wine Configuration... Then I select drives to add a C drive because it tells me I don't have one... But when I apply one, it forgets when I re-open it.
[07:30] <david_> And I can't browse for the file I want to install, because Wine shows a blank browse box
[07:30] <supergimp> have you tries the wine browser?
[07:31] <david_> Umm....
[07:31] <supergimp> cediega is much easy to install windows programs anyways
[07:31] <david_> Really?  I didn't know there was another option... Can I install cediega from adept?
[07:32] <supergimp> i know im spelling the name wrong lol
[07:32] <supergimp> let me look
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> david_, no, you have to actually pay for cedega
[07:32] <david_> ahh well....
[07:33] <david_> I'm not sure why wine is being so finickey... I got it to work on other installations.
[07:34] <david_> LOL- I just found cedega on a piratebay search... is that ethical? lol
[07:35] <supergimp> stfu and just do it
[07:35] <david_> k
[07:35] <Lynoure> david_: if you have to ask, you pretty much know the answer...
[07:36] <david_> yeah
[07:37] <supergimp> ok 1 problem solved on to me, anyone use guarddog firewall?
[07:38] <supergimp> and play open arena..?
[07:38] <Lynoure> 15 dollars, including 3 months of support and 3 votes on where the development will go is not very expensive. Less expensive than most games to be run on it
[07:38] <tilde> Is the Kubuntu upgrade tool supposed to be this slow? (downloading at about 500-1000b/s)
[07:39] <supergimp> tilde, go to manage sources then manually pick your dowload server or choose pick best server for me
[07:39] <supergimp> under adept
[07:40] <tilde> Yeah...I got the "there's a new release" button, and now the upgrade tool is downloading packages...taking forever...
[07:41] <james__> Where's the Ubuntu tsk mgr?
[07:41] <supergimp> this is kubuntu?
[07:41] <james__> yes
[07:41] <supergimp> go ask in kubuntu
[07:42] <james__> It is
[07:42] <james__> "#kubuntu"
[07:42] <supergimp> lol ubuntu
[07:42] <james__> x.x; shhhhhhh
[07:43] <supergimp> look in your start menu
[07:43] <supergimp> its around there somewere
[07:46] <tilde> sg -- thanks...can I just kill the upgrade while it's in the download phase without worrying?
[07:47] <mrdlouisd> i got ahold of some icons i really like, how do you go about making a folder for them and installing them?
[07:47] <mrdlouisd> tutorials are fine i dont know where to find them
[07:56] <seraph> hi all
[07:57] <seraph> I upgraded to Feisty and now I can't mount any USB drives
[07:57] <seraph> I've tried all four of my drives and none work
[07:57] <fadingblack> Hey Everyone i'm pretty new to linux and i recently started using beryl, but for some reason my Desktop cube stopped working. I have tried to Change the settings through the manager but They have no effect...Help?
[07:57] <seraph> I searched through the bug db and found someting that applied to the beta but it wasn't resolved...
[07:58] <seraph> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/98751
[07:58] <seraph> that's the bug
[07:58] <seraph> anyone know of a workaround for this?
[07:59] <blenheim> My Feisty Fawn don't like to communicate with sata2 systems... Where's the problem?
[07:59] <seraph> it really does seem like a critical bug
[07:59] <chemicalvamp_> anybody know what would cause my computer to just freeze up?
[07:59] <seraph> chemicalvamp_: could be any number ofthings
[07:59] <seraph> power supply failing, overheating, hardware failing
[07:59] <seraph> etc.
[07:59] <seraph> bad RAM
[07:59] <fadingblack> any solutions to my cube crisis?
[07:59] <blenheim> depens on what are you doing when freezes
[08:00] <blenheim> so many questions and no answers :)
[08:00] <chemicalvamp_> blenheim chatting on gaim + reading www.bash.org + listening to amarok
[08:00] <chemicalvamp_> + downloading on amule
[08:00] <blenheim> can you see your temps from mboard and processor?
[08:01] <chemicalvamp_> huh?
[08:01] <blenheim> What kind of hardware you have in your case?
[08:01] <blenheim> and which power supply
[08:01] <chemicalvamp_> laptop
[08:01] <blenheim> ok
[08:02] <blenheim> well, makes things interesting :P
[08:02] <fadingblack> although i've changed my settings to reset my cube it wont even let me unfold it...it's almost as if it doesnt exist
[08:02] <chemicalvamp_> its new to me.. i dont know why its doing it..
[08:02] <chemicalvamp_> once after a crash i logged in under 640x480@60
[08:02] <blenheim> I've put my guess to faulty power supply
[08:03] <nonuda> !qemu
[08:03] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:03] <chemicalvamp_> had to reconfigure xorg.conf, but i guess it didnt help
[08:03] <supergimp> anyone use guard dog firewall & play games help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423612
[08:03] <chemicalvamp_> this laptop is brand new, with battery
[08:03] <fadingblack> sometime's you can get factory defect cords
[08:03] <fadingblack> it's quite common
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> my battery is full.. how could it be the cord
[08:04] <fadingblack> what does it do when it crashes? does it just shut off, or do you get the blue screen?
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> and if it was power related wouldnt it power off completely?
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> it feezes my screen
[08:05] <chemicalvamp_> and music.. broken record effect
[08:05] <fadingblack> how much memory do you have on your hard drive remaining
[08:05] <fadingblack> space**
[08:05] <chemicalvamp_> 62.1gb
[08:06] <fadingblack> remaining?
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> yup free
[08:06] <fadingblack> wow
[08:06] <fadingblack> What's the model
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> of hdd?
[08:06] <fadingblack> no of the notebook
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> gateway mx6426
[08:07] <chemicalvamp_> 80gb total
[08:07] <fadingblack> what version of linux are you running?
[08:08] <chemicalvamp_> edgy all updates
[08:08] <FireTalon> anyone know of any apps for linux that show a directory of online tv stations then let you watch them?
[08:08] <fadingblack> sorry what distribution?
[08:08] <fadingblack> oh ok
[08:08] <chemicalvamp_> edgy 6.10
[08:08] <fadingblack> Hmm...
[08:09] <chemicalvamp_> wonder if i remade my kernel if it would help?
[08:09] <chemicalvamp_> i still use the generic one
[08:10] <fadingblack> probably not
[08:10] <fadingblack> i think it's a hardware problem not a software
[08:10] <chemicalvamp_> never had a problem before
[08:10] <fakepatriot> the only thing i can think of is that maybe you haven't installed the drivers for your graphics card
[08:11] <chemicalvamp_> i remember seeing "ERROR" in updates.. but sudo apt-get -f install didnt do anything
[08:12] <fadingblack> did you recently install Java?
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> yes for azureus client, but it never would load for me, so i uninstalled it
[08:13] <dxdt> how is Kubuntu Fiesty does it have stuff like the codec installer and things available?
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> i bet i still have packages left over from not doing auo-remove
[08:13] <dxdt> I guess my real question  is, in my experience Ubuntu is usually more polished than Kubuntu and I'm wondering if that is still the case
[08:14] <chemicalvamp> dxdt play an mp3 on amerok and it installs the codec.. that what you mean>
[08:16] <dxdt> I guess like I've said, I've often found Ubuntu slightly more refined than Kubuntu and I was wondering if it was still the case.  Video codecs will now be autodownloaded by the new codec installing thing they keep advertising ins screenshots of gnome, but does it work that way in Kubuntu as well?
[08:17] <FireTalon> yes, it does
[08:17] <david_> I noticed the installation of Ubuntu worked out of the box much more cleanly than Kubunty.... And that's sad because I like KDE better
[08:17] <FireTalon> hmm
[08:17] <FireTalon> this install of kubuntu worked better than the install of ubuntu I did before it
[08:18] <supergimp> im eating a can of creamcheese icing mmmmm
[08:18] <david_> heh... I guess we all have our differing experiences... lol
[08:18] <chemicalvamp> nobodies box is the same :)
[08:18] <seraph> kubuntu has been flawless except for this USB thing
[08:19] <seraph> nad yes
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> lol if were talking feisty your foregtting about the wireless bugs
[08:19] <seraph> ubuntu will always be more refined than kubuntu
[08:19] <seraph> chemicalvamp: eh?
[08:19] <supergimp> cervicalclamp?
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> seraph many many many people including myself are having varying wireless problems
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> lol
[08:20] <seraph> oh
[08:20] <forty5> yeah don't like my wireless card on my laptop
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> if I have more than 10 windows in irssi, how can i quickly move to window 11
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> without doing /win 11
[08:20] <seraph> q
[08:20] <seraph> alt+q
[08:20] <seraph> and so on
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sepeck: can you explain how to go to 12?
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> qwerty?
[08:21] <crimsun> +w
[08:21] <crimsun> yes, for qwerty
[08:21] <crimsun> it's a bit more obtuse for alternate keymaps
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> so I'll hack it for dvorak i suppose
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks daniel, seraph
[08:22] <seraph> :)
[08:23] <dxdt> david_, yeah, that's been my problem too.  I like KDE better, and right now I'm an ubuntu user who apt-get installed kubuntu (edgy)  and I'm just trying to make the decision of whether to go straight Kubuntu or Ubuntu with Feisty.
[08:23] <dxdt> Personally I get the feeling as I use KDE that it is like for linux grownups
[08:23] <epimeth> hrm... how do I configure my ipod mountingness?
[08:23] <epimeth> !ipod
[08:23] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:24] <epimeth> !rockbox
[08:24] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[08:24] <dxdt> it seems to have more info and things available.  One thing for example is that the wireless manager, when you hover your mouse of an ap, will display way more info than the other gnome one and stuff like that
[08:24] <Maxtehmantus> Why does the graphical installer not show me my partitions on sdb?
[08:25] <MrWGW> is there a way to automagically enable 3D effects with Kubuntu Feisty?
[08:26] <MrWGW> to the same degree that's possible in regular Ubuntu
[08:27] <Maxtehmantus> Anyone?
[08:28] <MrWGW> what was your question Max?
[08:28] <supergimp> 3D works for intel chips out of the box, that all i know
[08:28] <MrWGW> yes, I know, it works fine in Ubuntu
[08:28] <MrWGW> I'm just trying to figure out -how to turn it on-
[08:28] <MrWGW> in Ubuntu, it was straightforward
[08:29] <MrWGW> in Kubuntu though I'd really like to use it, as I prefer KDE
[08:29] <Jucato> MrWGW: there's no one-click app to enable Compiz on Kubuntu
[08:29] <Jucato> at least none yet
[08:29] <Ash-Fox> 3D works for my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY graphic card out of the box.
[08:29] <MrWGW> ah well
[08:29] <MrWGW> is there a CLI instruction?
[08:30] <Jucato> MrWGW: you'll have to check with #ubuntu-effects
[08:30] <MrWGW> on Freenode or ubuntu IRC?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> those are the same thing
[08:30] <MrWGW> err nvm
[08:30] <Jucato> MrWGW: same banana
[08:30] <Jucato> ubuntu irc (as of now) is freenode
[08:30] <Jucato> hi tonyyarusso :)
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: servers are not bananas...
[08:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> hey Jucato - this is me pretending to know beans about KDE (I don't)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Admiral_Chicago: I installed OpenBSD on a banana once.
[08:31] <Jucato> lol
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> homework
[08:34] <epimeth> Jucato: long time no see!
[08:34] <epimeth> what up?
[08:35] <Maxtehmantus> MrWGW: I just downloaded the kubuntu LiveCD, and am trying to install it onto the hard drive. I can not see my partitions from sdb2 though.
[08:35] <Jucato> epimeth: sky's still up, fortunately :)
[08:35] <Maxtehmantus> Which is where my swap drive, home drive, and space for the installation is.
[08:35] <epimeth> Jucato: why do I insist on using idiomatic expressions around geeks?
[08:35] <epimeth> Jucato: don't answer that
[08:35] <Jucato> :P
[08:36] <epimeth> Jucato: how do I get my ipod to mount onto /media/ipod ?
[08:36] <epimeth> right now its on /media/FRED (FRED is its name)
[08:36] <Jucato> epimeth: ah I'm not sure how that is determined... sorry
[08:36] <Jucato> I don't even have an iPod... :D
[08:36] <Jucato> (and that makes me a bit happy :P)
[08:36] <Maxtehmantus> epimeth: You could do it manually.
[08:36] <epimeth> Jucato: say it aint so!!!
[08:37] <epimeth> Maxtehmantus: yeeees?
[08:37] <Maxtehmantus> As root: mount /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod
[08:37] <Maxtehmantus> Or replace sdb2 with whatever device it is.
[08:37] <Jucato> you could probably set it manually in fstab
[08:37] <Jucato> that is, if it uses the same /dev
[08:37] <Jucato> that is, if it uses the same /dev always
[08:37] <Maxtehmantus> Yes, and that would still require you to enter it manually to mount.
[08:37] <Maxtehmantus> And you'd need to umount it before removing.
[08:38] <Maxtehmantus> Otherwise it has issues, and you can't plug it in again without rebooting.
[08:38] <epimeth> when i plugged it in I got some sort of a device manager... how can I get back to it?
[08:38] <Maxtehmantus> Gonna try swapping master with slave.. Might help.
[08:39] <Maxtehmantus> Not sure, havn't used kubuntu yet. Not sure of all the features, only the base Linux kernel. :P
[08:40] <epimeth> Jucato: you know maybe?
[08:40] <Jucato> you don't get the popup anymore when you plug it in?
[08:40] <epimeth> I didn't try...
[08:40] <epimeth> :-)
[08:41] <epimeth> I'd like to know how to get to it anyway :-)
[08:41] <Jucato> hm.. device manager... the one for amarok or the one for kde which asks you if you want to open, play or do nothing
[08:41] <Jucato> I think they're triggered by mounting, not sure how to bring them up manuallyh
[08:41] <Jucato> I have no portable media player either :P
[08:41] <Jucato> except for my phone :D
[08:42] <epimeth> how is that possible???
[08:42] <Jucato> easy: I'm not a media person :)
[08:42] <Jucato> or rather, not an audio person
[08:42] <epimeth> you think you're too cool for school, dontcha?
[08:42] <Jucato> and the only music I listen to are those that I can't understand the lyrics of. :)
[08:42] <epimeth> c'mon... everybody needs some music in their life!
[08:43] <epimeth> like what?
[08:46] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <Alarm> goodmorning . is it possible to tell me the settings that are written in the "System Settings" entry in the Kmenu ? its like a directory with its subcategories, and not just a shortcut
[08:49] <toyd_> Friends
[08:50] <epimeth> Alarm: I'm not sure I understand the question.... they are all there....
[08:51] <toyd_> friends
[08:51] <Alarm> epimeth,  i did something in my Kmenu. and now the shortcut instead of a shortcut where u press on it and opens a window. its a category , like "Internet" , with its subcategories, look and feel, personal, administration , services and so on. got it ? :)
[08:52] <Maxtehmantus> Still doesn't seem to work.
[08:52] <Maxtehmantus> Doesn't seem to be able to retrieve info on the hard disk.
[08:52] <epimeth> Alarm: systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[08:52] <toyd_> how can i make kubuntu look like mac?
[08:53] <Maxtehmantus> qtparted says "Critical error during ped_disk_new!"
[08:53] <Maxtehmantus> But I can mount my existing ext3 partitions.
[08:53] <epimeth> Maxtehmantus: you sure its not just a different device than you are used to?  I know my disks were switched inexplicably from hdc to sdb
[08:53] <Alarm> epimeth, doesnt seem to work. is there any path or something else listed ?
[08:53] <epimeth> toyd_: good god why would you want to?
[08:53] <toyd_> Maxtehmantus: use a restore point
[08:53] <Maxtehmantus> I know it's the drive I'm thinking of.
[08:53] <Alarm> or terminal options
[08:54] <Maxtehmantus> toyd_ I'm trying to install kubuntu :P
[08:54] <toyd_> oh
[08:54] <Maxtehmantus> Used Gentoo before, few things I couldn't get working though.
[08:54] <toyd_> isnt this for xp
[08:54] <Maxtehmantus> #kubuntu :P
[08:54] <toyd_> i know
[08:54] <epimeth> Alarm: sorry man... thats all that appears in Command... try checking the "Enable launch feedback" checkbox
[08:54] <Jucato> Alarm: what are you trying to do? change the ordering of the System Menu entries in K Menu?
[08:54] <toyd_> me kid lots
[08:55] <toyd_> i am retarted
[08:55] <toyd_> so how do change please
[08:55] <Alarm> Jucato,  goodmorning. no.  i did something in my Kmenu. and now the shortcut instead of a shortcut where u press on it and opens a window. its a category , like "Internet" , with its subcategories, look and feel, personal, administration , services and so on
[08:55] <Maxtehmantus> I know it's the correct drive, as I can mount my /usr /tmp /storage that I used on Gentoo.
[08:55] <Alarm> wait , iwill make a snapshot
[08:55] <toyd_> nalioth:
[08:55] <toyd_> help me
[08:55] <Maxtehmantus> And it automounted the swap drive I used.
[08:55] <Jucato> Alarm: you didn't change anything, you just added as special menu to the kmenu
[08:55] <Alarm> well and i cant change that anymore :)
[08:56] <Jucato> right-click on kicker (KDE panel), Configure Panel -> Menus -> uncheck [ ]  System Menu from the list
[08:57] <Alarm> it is uncheckd...
[08:57] <Jucato> hm?
[08:57] <Jucato> ok screenshot
[08:58] <toyd_> how do i open a new server tab in konversation ctrl+t isnt working
[08:58] <Alarm> hold on. cause its kind of difficult . the menu dissapears when i try to snapshot :)
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Alarm: timed screenshot
[08:58] <Maxtehmantus> toyd_ Just File > Quick connect
[08:58] <Maxtehmantus> It doesn't override your current connection.
[08:59] <Jucato> Alarm: set a delay when taking the snapshot
[08:59] <Alarm> yes saw it, i did that, i am uploadint it
[09:00] <Maxtehmantus> Is there some terminal based installer?
[09:00] <Maxtehmantus> I don't really like the GUI one. Doesn't seem to work.
[09:00] <Jucato> Maxtehmantus: installer for Kubuntu?
[09:00] <Jucato> !alternate | Maxtehmantus
[09:00] <ubotu> Maxtehmantus: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:00] <Maxtehmantus> Always have problems with GUI installers for Linux, but the terminal ones work fine.
[09:01] <Alarm> here it is: www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot2.png
[09:02] <Alarm> sorry for its size.
[09:03] <Alarm> waits for what ? :)
[09:03] <Jucato> for it to load
[09:03] <Jucato> seems like my connection is slow today :(
[09:03] <Alarm> wait i will resize it
[09:03] <forty5> time to get a new hd tommarow owell goodnight all
[09:03] <Jucato> Alarm: nvm, saw it
[09:04] <Alarm> oh ok
[09:04] <Jucato> wow that's the first time I've ever seent hat
[09:04] <Alarm> ehehe me too
[09:04] <Alarm> the point is i cant remember changing something
[09:04] <Jucato> Alarm: can you try this command: kdcop kicker kicker restart
[09:04] <Alarm> else i would do the steps backwords
[09:04] <Alarm> on console ?
[09:04] <epimeth> no fair!  I want cedega!
[09:04] <Jucato> crazy, if you ask me... but a bit useful
[09:04] <Jucato> Alarm: Alt+F2 would be fine
[09:04] <epimeth> and whats that cool thing on the right?
[09:04] <Alarm> epimeth,  buy it
[09:04] <epimeth> lol
[09:05] <epimeth> seriously
[09:05] <Jucato> superkaramba
[09:05] <Alarm> Jucato, nothing seems to appear
[09:05] <Jucato> epimeth: either buy it or use cedega cvs, which is free iirc
[09:05] <Jucato> Alarm: nothing appears where?
[09:05] <Alarm> buying it its worth. its just a few dollars
[09:05] <Alarm> well with  kdcop kicker kicker restart
[09:05] <epimeth> cedega cvs is free?
[09:05] <Jucato> Alt+F2 should bring up the run command dialog box
[09:05] <epimeth> no way!
[09:06] <Jucato> Alarm: ah. yeah nothing will appear. it just restarts kicker :)
[09:06] <Alarm> i did
[09:06] <Alarm> well, it didnt change anything
[09:06] <Jucato> well, cedega is worth it if you know that the app you are trying to run will really run on it
[09:06] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ kdcop kicker kicker restart
[09:06] <Alarm> kdcop: Unexpected argument 'kicker'.
[09:06] <Jucato> oh frack sorry
[09:06] <Jucato> dcop kicker kicker restart
[09:07] <Alarm> ok, did it
[09:07] <Alarm> the tastkbar disappeared for a second
[09:07] <Alarm> but the menu is still the same
[09:07] <Alarm> i also restarted the machine but this didnt change anything
[09:07] <Alarm> Jucato, if i would create a new entry of  the System Settings , wouldnt it work ?
[09:07] <livenicely> hello
[09:08] <Alarm> i just dont know the entries of that shortcut in the kmenu
[09:08] <Jucato> Alarm: not really sure, but maybe...try editing the menu
[09:08] <livenicely> can kubuntu 7.04 play mp3 without extra installation
[09:08] <Alarm> well in the edit , its as u see just like a folder
[09:08] <Jucato> livenicely: nope. not built-in. but you can easily install it
[09:08] <Alarm> now command options or something
[09:09] <livenicely> i can hear sound with .dat or vcd when i play it in kaffeine
[09:09] <livenicely> *cant
[09:09] <epimeth> soooo... how do I unmount the ipod??
[09:10] <Alarm> epimeth,  isnt there any unmount when right clicking on it ? doesnt it unmount it automatically when u unplug it ?
[09:10] <Jucato> right-click -> Safely Remove?
[09:11] <Jucato> livenicely: install the package named libxine-extracodecs
[09:12] <Alarm> ok,  lets go on my other question i will load the live cd and check the settings about it :)
[09:12] <epimeth> Alarm: I'd rather not just unplug it....
[09:13] <epimeth> wtf is lrm???
[09:13] <Jucato> Alarm: in the first place, it shouldn't be a folder in the K Menu. it should be an app: systemsettings (filename)
[09:14] <Alarm> okie
[09:14] <Alarm> thank you :)
[09:14] <Alarm> Jucato,  look this
[09:15] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ systemsettings
[09:15] <Alarm> The program 'systemsettings' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[09:15] <Jucato> O.o
[09:15] <Jucato> did you uninstall it or something?
[09:15] <Jucato> the package name is kde-systemsettings
[09:15] <Alarm> honestly i cant remember uninstalling it. i uninistalled some internet unwanted apps, but surely nothing from settings
[09:15] <Alarm> yes, u are right
[09:16] <Alarm> should i install it , or thats not what we want
[09:16] <epimeth> Jucato: I tried the unplug/plug in thing.... the popup didn't appear?
[09:16] <Jucato> Alarm: try installing it
[09:16] <Jucato> epimeth: hm... not really sure what's happening there
[09:17] <GuHHH> need some help, i can load my xserver but i cant run the ubuntu but only on recovery mode, because the screen goes black when ubuntu logo must appears, how do i edit the options to donot load the graphical interface on loading or how i edit the graphic options?
[09:17] <Alarm> Jucato,  ok, that was it...
[09:17] <Alarm> fixed.
[09:17] <Jucato> great
[09:17] <Alarm> dont ask me how or why, but the applications wasnt installed
[09:18] <Jucato> I won't ask you how or why. Though I'm gonna presume you were on crack when that happened :P
[09:18] <epimeth> Jucato: and you don't know how to get to that device manager thing?
[09:18] <Alarm> hehehe :)
[09:18] <GuHHH> no one?
[09:18] <Jucato> epimeth: you are correct in guessing that
[09:18] <Alarm> GuHHH,  startx ?
[09:19] <GuHHH> i can run xserver
[09:19] <GuHHH> because i reconfigured it
[09:19] <GuHHH> but i cant still load my ubuntu execpt by recovery mode than startx :)
[09:20] <Alarm> could it be a xorg or gdm issue ?
[09:20] <GuHHH> and the keyboard just starts to blink the lights and do not works anymore
[09:20] <Jucato> an #ubuntu issue?
[09:21] <Alarm> have u tried to restore an old xorg.conf file back ?
[09:21] <GuHHH> it only happens with ubuntu, because it tries to load the logo and sh...
[09:21] <Jucato> GuHHH: what was the last thing you did before reconfiguring your X server?
[09:21] <GuHHH> if i do that i cant run xserver :)
[09:21] <GuHHH> nothing...
[09:22] <GuHHH> just installed my system :)
[09:22] <Jucato> hm...
[09:22] <GuHHH> my xserver only works after i reconfigure it, even on debian...
[09:22] <GuHHH> so it was the first thing i did
[09:23] <livenicely> how i can use my zcyber genie ultra capture card with kubuntu 6.10
[09:24] <Doctor_Nick> how do i stop vertical tearing in videos and games and such
[09:29] <epimeth> okaaay... I think it might be a gui editor for mtab... you wouldn't happen to know anything about that maybe?
[09:30] <Alarm> something else. ok i can live without it actually. but how can i change the way menus on a window or the buttons look like , at the moment they look like this: http://www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot1.png , i changed everything from style , as also from window decoration, but it doesnt seem to be there. the buttons or menus seem to look so "massive" .
[09:32] <epimeth> aaaand here's an interesting one... when I plug it in to one usb plug it appears as an ipod and I can right click "remove safely"... in the second its just a folder
[09:32] <Alarm> usb1 and usb2 maybe ? although this shouldnt make a difference
[09:33] <epimeth> Alarm: nope... all usb2
[09:33] <epimeth> actually, now its appearing as a folder no matter what
[09:34] <Alarm> happens sometimes the same with my external. but i still can work well with it
[09:34] <Alarm> or when i unplug it , the folder remains till the next reboot
[09:37] <supergimp> yo der is a usb bug with laptops eh
[09:38] <supergimp> from dis article http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17759/Ubuntu-With-Great-Power-Comes-Great-Responsibility/
[09:39] <supergimp> jus saying jus saying
[09:41] <solemnwarning> Is there a guide to upgrading etch to 7.04?
[09:43] <supergimp> yes there is but im not looking for it :0
[09:44] <Dimanish> solemnwarning: ypu want tp upgrade debian etch to kubuntu 7.04? :-0
[09:46] <epimeth> !pmount
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <epimeth> !automouint
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automouint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <epimeth> !automount
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <epimeth> !auto-mount
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auto-mount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <epimeth> arrrrrggggggggg
[09:47] <mefisto__> is realplayer in any of the feisty repos?
[09:48] <Ilokaasu> epimeth: man mount ?
[09:49] <supergimp> !mount
[09:49] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:49] <epimeth> !DiskMounter
[09:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:50] <epimeth> finally!  cheers :-)
[09:51] <epimeth> nope.... wasn't it
[09:51] <supergimp> ?
[09:52] <epimeth> supergimp: when I plugged in my ipod the first time some program popped up which allowed me to edit removable devices... you wouldn't happen to know what that program is, would you?
[09:53] <tmske> I have a linux question, but maybe somebody here knows what to do, I have accedentaly overwritten a folder with a file (stupid gtk dialog), does somebody know how to recover?
[10:03] <dragunov_> ciao
[10:03] <dragunov_> ciao a tutti
[10:04] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone know how to fix the vertical retrace problem with the ati drivers?
[10:08] <nu-> anyone here know how do to syntax hiliting on nano?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> nu-: yeah, it's all in your /etc/nanorc and ~/.nanorc, which reference things in /usr/share (which you can configure-just play with it)
[10:14] <tuco> I need help to make sure I configure the ATI drivers properly. Yesterday I installed them through Adept but then I couldn't log back in as I was stuck in the boot menu...
[10:14] <nu-> tonyyarusso: thanks
[10:15] <epimeth> okay.... I'm going nuts... google is useless.... <shout>why is the ipod automounting as /media/name of ipod???? where is the automount settings???</shout>
[10:16] <epimeth> it took all of my self controll not to hold down shift...
[10:16] <epimeth> amazing how when I get angry I need to capslock
[10:18] <tuco> any help with my ATI drivers please?
[10:19] <GuHHH> tuco: what exactly:
[10:19] <GuHHH> tuco: what exactly?
[10:19] <GuHHH> anyone knows if is it possible to run beryl with fglrx drivers?
[10:20] <tuco> Thank you GuHHH. I have downloaded and install the ATI drivers from Adept.
[10:20] <GuHHH> tuco: which one? fglrx?
[10:20] <tuco> I need help to configure them so I can have my 1280x800 resolution displayed normally for my alptop
[10:20] <tuco> yes
[10:20] <GuHHH> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:21] <GuHHH> tuco: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:21] <tuco> in the terminal yes?
[10:21] <GuHHH> when it asks for the driver, put it: fglrx
[10:21] <GuHHH> yes
[10:21] <tuco> and after that
[10:21] <GuHHH> tuco: and then add the resolutions you want
[10:21] <tuco> it said that: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[10:21] <GuHHH> tuco then press ctrl-alt-backspace and after that, startx, it must work :)
[10:22] <GuHHH> tuco put sudo before the command, always when it asks for root
[10:22] <tuco> ah yes true dumb me :-)
[10:22] <GuHHH> tuco or just do sudo passwd root and set a password for root :)
[10:23] <xjkx> what jvm comes on kubuntu?
[10:23] <Maxtehmantus> Can anyone help me with getting this LiveCD to use one of my secondary HDDs correctly?
[10:23] <GuHHH> does anyone knows if is it possible to run beryl with fglrx driver?
[10:23] <tuco> Woooow I am lost GuHHH.
[10:24] <Maxtehmantus> I can mount partitions from it, but can't manage them, which I need to do for install.
[10:24] <epimeth> !partition
[10:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:24] <GuHHH> tuco tell me ...
[10:24] <Maxtehmantus> epimeth: I think it's the kernel.
[10:24] <epimeth> !GParted
[10:24] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:24] <epimeth> Maxtehmantus: what is?
[10:24] <tuco> Can I paste somewhere so you can see?
[10:24] <Jucato> !paste | tuco
[10:24] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <epimeth> isn't there some sort of partitioning software installed by default???
[10:25] <epimeth> !QTParted
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> When I try listing the partitions of this drive in QTParted, it gives me an error.
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> Yes, QTParted is on the LiveCD
[10:25] <GuHHH> tuco: do that ubotu said :D
[10:25] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17742/ Thank you
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> It's not the program.
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> It's the kernel.
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> "Critical error during ped_disk_new!"
[10:25] <Maxtehmantus> The install program can't do it either, and I doubt that relies on QTParted.
[10:26] <epimeth> Maxtehmantus: I'm wondering for myself... not you :-)
[10:26] <epimeth> its not installed by default
[10:26] <epimeth> grrrr
[10:26] <Maxtehmantus> It is on this LiveCD. :S
[10:28] <GuHHH> tuco: its dpkg-reconfigure do not use space
[10:28] <Maxtehmantus> Is it possible to prevent it from automounting my swap drive? I think it might be why.
[10:28] <tuco> Oh
[10:28] <epimeth> Maxtehmantus: actually... I think you are wrong... qtparted isn't showing me any partitions at all
[10:29] <Maxtehmantus> It's showing me correct partitions on one of my HDDs.
[10:29] <tuco> so that should be sudo-dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:29] <Maxtehmantus> sda, doesn't work with sdb though.
[10:29] <Maxtehmantus> Same with the kubuntu installer.
[10:29] <Maxtehmantus> (GUI)
[10:30] <GuHHH> tuco: no, no...
[10:30] <_4strO> hi there
[10:30] <tuco> Aie aie aie
[10:31] <_4strO> ;p
[10:31] <GuHHH> tuco: do this, please... type "sudo passwd root" without quotes and choose a password for root
[10:31] <tuco> done :-)
[10:32] <GuHHH> tuco okay, now type "su" and put your password if asked
[10:32] <tuco> done :-)
[10:32] <epimeth> waaaittttt.... why????
[10:32] <epimeth> sudo -i
[10:32] <epimeth> all you need
[10:32] <epimeth> you really really don't need to enable the root user
[10:32] <GuHHH> tuco: now that: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:33] <epimeth> oh well... too late
[10:33] <epimeth> :-)
[10:33] <tuco> wow a big grey window appeared now
[10:33] <GuHHH> what it says? hehe
[10:33] <hatter> how do i disable the power manager ?  each time the system boots i get a kde crash handler
[10:34] <tuco> the title is Configuring xserver-xorg
[10:34] <GuHHH> hatter: -noapic on command line
[10:34] <nu-> tonyyarusso: didn't work
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> nu-: which part?
[10:34] <GuHHH> hatter: -noapic on boot command line
[10:34] <GuHHH> tuco: does it asks for something? :P
[10:35] <nu-> tonyyarusso: hiliting
[10:35] <hatter> GuHHH: thx, this goes where ?  some startup script ?
[10:35] <tuco> this is what I have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17743/
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> nu-: which syntax are you trying to use?
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> nu-: try copying /etc/nanorc to ~/.nanorc
[10:36] <GuHHH> hatter: on grub or lilo
[10:36] <nu-> tonyyarusso: python, and i did. inside ~/,nanorc i copied python.nanorc into it
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> nu-: I unfortunately desparately need to go to bed - if you don't figure it out perhaps I could help you another time?
[10:36] <hatter> guhhh: ok, thx :)
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> nu-: easier to just source them in
[10:36] <tuco> what should I do GuHHH?
[10:36] <nu-> tonyyarusso: alright. ill keep trying. thanks
[10:37] <GuHHH> tuco: choose fglrx
[10:37] <tuco> it is not showing up there
[10:37] <tuco> this is what I have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17743/
[10:37] <GuHHH> tuco: it must or u didnt installed it :P, try scroll down
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> nu-: this might help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17744/
[10:38] <Maxtehmantus> GParted has the same problem as qtparted and the installer.
[10:38] <tuco> ahhhhhhhhhhhh yes
[10:38] <Maxtehmantus> Wonder if I can fit a backup of sdb2 on my portable hdd.
[10:39] <tuco> I need to provide with a name myself now or do I use the one saying Generic video card?
[10:39] <tuco> it is an X1400 Ati Radeon
[10:40] <weiminji> I cannot surf  the internet!
[10:40] <GuHHH> tuco no matter, anything will work :D
[10:40] <tuco> Ok
[10:41] <GuHHH> tuco: framebuffer can be off, u can auto detect the keyboard layout
[10:41] <tuco> It is asking me the amount of memory now?
[10:41] <cathy> hey ppl; having a problem with getting an irc module i just compiled to load...how do I force it?
[10:41] <GuHHH> tuco: mouse settings can be /input/mice ... emulate 3 buttons...yes
[10:41] <GuHHH> tuco: just type enter
[10:42] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17745/
[10:42] <cathy> sorry: lirc module i just built -- not irc
[10:42] <tuco> so I say no to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17745/
[10:42] <GuHHH> tuco: just enter
[10:42] <tuco> sorry this  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[10:43] <GuHHH> tuco: can say no
[10:44] <tuco> Keyboard variant?
[10:44] <GuHHH> tuco: just enter
[10:44] <tuco> keyboard options?
[10:44] <cathy> anyone installed mythtv/lirc into feisty yet? having a problem
[10:44] <GuHHH> tuco: enter again :P
[10:44] <tuco> Mouse port?
[10:45] <GuHHH> tuco: whats the one highlighted?
[10:45] <tuco>  /dev/ input/ mice
[10:45] <nu-> anyone know how to enable syntax hiliting with nano?
[10:45] <cathy> i following the howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty#head-350a6e652d6cce60c78f4f754031dd597cca3d78 and dmesg definitely says the i2c module isn loading, how do i force it to load?
[10:46] <tuco> it should be that one GuHHH right?
[10:46] <GuHHH> tuco: yes, go ahead :)
[10:47] <tuco> Mouse protocol?
[10:47] <tuco> ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2?
[10:47] <GuHHH> tuco: the first one
[10:47] <GuHHH> tuco: imPs/2
[10:48] <GuHHH> beryl ppl just doenst help :(
[10:48] <tuco> X.org modeules that should be loaded by default?
[10:48] <GuHHH> tuco: press enter again :)
[10:48] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17746/
[10:49] <GuHHH> tuco: just go ok
[10:49] <Maxtehmantus> Wtf? GParted shows sdb2 as being empty.
[10:49] <tuco> Write default Files section to configuration file?
[10:50] <GuHHH> tuco: yes
[10:51] <tuco> all done
[10:51] <tuco> ctrl-alt backspace now?
[10:52] <GuHHH> tuco: before taht
[10:52] <GuHHH> tuco: before that, try aticonfig --initial
[10:53] <insmod> 7.04 still can't shut down an acer lol
[10:53] <tuco> Found fglrx primary device section
[10:53] <GuHHH> tuco: then ctrl-alt-backspace and startx :)
[10:53] <tuco> Nothing to do, terminating.
[10:53] <GuHHH> tuco, okay, thats right
[10:55] <tuco> It hasn't change the resolution GuHHH! :-(
[10:56] <GuHHH> tuco: did u choose your resolution when it asked for?
[10:56] <tuco> yes 1280x800
[10:56] <tuco> shall I do it again?
[10:56] <tuco> still 1024x768 arghhhh
[10:56] <hatter> hmmm, why do the ide devices show up as /dev/sda ?
[10:56] <GuHHH> tuco, no...
[10:57] <GuHHH> tuco: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:57] <tuco> in terminal?
[10:57] <GuHHH> tuco: yes, then press ctrl-w and type Screen
[10:58] <hatter> do we still use fstab ?  /dev/hda1 is commented out
[10:58] <GuHHH> tuco: tell me what says on "DefaultDepth"
[10:58] <Jucato> hatter: yes we use fstab
[10:58] <tuco> ctrl-w and tyoe screen at the same time or after?
[10:59] <Jucato> hatter: /dev lines are commented out because we use their corresponding UUID's (which are not commented out below the /dev lines)
[10:59] <Jucato> !uuid | hatter
[10:59] <ubotu> hatter: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:59] <hatter> jucato: this is for udev ?
[10:59] <GuHHH> tuco: after, when u press ctrl-w it will ask for a word to find on the text, type Screen :)
[10:59] <hatter> ubotu, jucato: thx
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jucato: thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <GuHHH> lol
[11:00] <tuco> done :-)
[11:00] <GuHHH> hatter: ubotu is a bot :D
[11:00] <hatter> lol
[11:00] <GuHHH> tuco: tell me what is says on DefaultDepth
[11:00] <Jucato> !thanks | hatter
[11:00] <ubotu> hatter: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:00] <tuco> 24
[11:00] <tuco> Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:01] <GuHHH> tuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says 24
[11:01] <tuco> yes
[11:01] <GuHHH> tuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says Depth 24
[11:01] <hatter> Thanks Mr Bot !  (or are you a girl ?)
[11:01] <tuco> DEfault Depth?
[11:01] <GuHHH> tuco: okay, no go in the SubSection where it says Depth 24, put there the resolution you want "1280x1024", and remove the other ones
[11:01] <hatter> jucato:  blkid is only showing the mounted devices ?
[11:02] <tuco> modes you mean?
[11:02] <Maxtehmantus> Lol. I just added a "1280x1024" before all "1024x768" on my other distrib.
[11:02] <_4strO> GuHHH: not necessary to remove the others
[11:02] <Maxtehmantus> And it used 1280x1024 by default.
[11:02] <GuHHH> _4strO: ...
[11:02] <hatter> i want to add a new partition to fstab, /dev/sdb1
[11:02] <icecruncher> how can you make a shrourtcut execute as sudo? The command  should be something like sudo "sh /file"
[11:02] <Jucato> hatter: no. it shows all partitions
[11:02] <tuco> GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17748/
[11:02] <icecruncher> *shortcut
[11:03] <Jucato> hatter: have you tried using System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks & Filesystems?
[11:03] <GuHHH> tuco: are u sure u had configured the dpkg-reconfigure to the end? :P it asked you for monitor configuration?
[11:03] <hatter> jucato: oh, people use the graphical environment ?
[11:03] <tuco> I think I did yes GuHHH
[11:03] <hatter> (which of course I am right now)
[11:04] <tuco> or maybe not...confused now!
[11:04] <Jucato> hatter: if you want to. it automatically detects the UUID for you
[11:04] <Jucato> (at least on Feisty)
[11:04] <GuHHH> tuco: go down to where it says SubSection "Display" and under it, Depth 24
[11:04] <tuco> above it you mean :-)?
[11:05] <GuHHH> no, under
[11:05] <tuco> There are two SubSection Display
[11:05] <GuHHH> tuco: its the last SubSection on Screen Section
[11:06] <tuco> OK
[11:06] <GuHHH> tuco: if the default Depth is 24 then must be a Depth 24 subsection :P
[11:06] <tuco> the one with the modes
[11:06] <GuHHH> tuco: then on modes, put "1280x1024" and remove the others resolutions
[11:07] <tuco> my laptop goes up to 1280x800 only :-)
[11:07] <hatter> ok, disks & filesystems added the line to fstab as per usual, without the UUID
[11:07] <GuHHH> tuco: put there whatever you preffer
[11:07] <GuHHH> tuco: just remove the others...
[11:08] <GuHHH> tuco: just a minute
[11:08] <tuco> yes
[11:09] <GuHHH> tuco: hi
[11:09] <epimeth> I forgot the web development package?
[11:09] <tuco> Yo
[11:09] <ExpositionOfEvil> hey
[11:09] <ayjamob> Hey. When i start program in kubuntu, i dont see them, egz. Amarok. But when i restart a computer, i see them in the traybar.
[11:09] <epimeth> Quan something
[11:09] <ExpositionOfEvil> does anyone know any proxies for xchat?
[11:09] <ian__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2538114
[11:10] <tuco> this is what I have now GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17750/
[11:10] <GuHHH> tuco:
[11:10] <GuHHH>    SubSection "Display"
[11:10] <GuHHH>                 Depth           1
[11:10] <GuHHH>                 Mode        "1280x800"
[11:10] <GuHHH> should be this:
[11:11] <GuHHH>   SubSection "Display"
[11:11] <GuHHH>                 Depth           24
[11:11] <GuHHH>                 Mode        "1280x800"
[11:11] <tuco> ok done :-)
[11:11] <GuHHH> tuco: just replace Depth 1 for 24
[11:11] <GuHHH> tuco: now ctrl-alt-backspace and startx :D
[11:11] <ExpositionOfEvil> Mode             "1280x1024" "1280x800"
[11:12] <tuco> If I leave 1280x1024 can I use an external screen?
[11:12] <_4strO> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:12] <icecruncher> anyone?
[11:12] <tuco> a 19 icnch which supports 1280x1024
[11:12] <GuHHH> oh, sorry for the 3 lines flood :)
[11:12] <_4strO> tuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17751/
[11:12] <ExpositionOfEvil> does anyone know any proxies for xchat?
[11:13] <_4strO> tuco: yours will be the same expect the resoltion
[11:13] <_4strO> except*
[11:13] <GuHHH> tuco:  dont do that what _4strO says :)
[11:13] <_4strO> :p
[11:13] <GuHHH> tuco: u will mess everything we have done
[11:14] <tuco> Hey guys you want me to go crazy...I already did with the wireless on Fesity :-)
[11:14] <_4strO> GuHHH: think he as two subsection with depth 24 ...
[11:14] <tuco> Feisty sorry!
[11:14] <tuco> No I leave it as it is GuHHH :-)
[11:14] <icecruncher> is it possible to sudo password command?
[11:14] <tuco> Do I save or not before ctrl-alt backspace?
[11:14] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: yes, sudo passwd
[11:15] <GuHHH> tuco: please, paste ur xorg.conf just for caution :)
[11:15] <_4strO> ;)
[11:15] <GuHHH> tuco: save it.
[11:15] <tuco> you too are brothers no! :-)
[11:15] <icecruncher> _StefanS_: so i could write this in a desktop shortcut "sudo password command"?
[11:15] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone know a good proxy?
[11:15] <_4strO> tuco: paste the entire section "Screen"
[11:15] <ExpositionOfEvil> =(
[11:15] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: you would need to use kdesu then
[11:15] <icecruncher> ahh
[11:16] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: does the same, but provides af gui for it :D
[11:16] <icecruncher> thanks
[11:16] <_StefanS_> af/a
[11:16] <tuco> Voila: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17752/
[11:16] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: np :D
[11:16] <dromer> can someone help me get this irssi-script to work? http://www.irssi.org/scripts/html/amaroknp.pl.html  it's for nowplaying of Amarok, but irssi and amarok are on two different pc's, the script needs the "dcop" of amarok to work, but I don't know how I can make it access it over the network
[11:16] <ayjamob> Hey. When i start program in kubuntu, i dont see them, egz. Amarok. But when i restart a computer, i see them in the traybar.
[11:16] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone know a good proxy?
[11:16] <GuHHH> tuco:  SubSection "Display" is alone in the end of file:
[11:16] <GuHHH> tuco:  SubSection "Display" is alone in the end of file?
[11:17] <tuco> Ah!
[11:17] <tuco> So what should I do then :-) ?
[11:18] <_4strO> ayjamob: when you start amarok you will see it in the traybar :p (no need to reboot)
[11:18] <ayjamob> but i don't see them
[11:19] <GuHHH> tuco paste the entire Section "Screen" until you see EndSection
[11:19] <ayjamob> and not only amarok. and not always programs hiding..
[11:19] <tuco> I did no?
[11:19] <pingveno> I'm trying to get my right Alt key on a ThinkPad to map to the Win/Super key. How would I do that?
[11:19] <GuHHH> tuco: if u did, u messed the entire xorg.conf, lol
[11:19] <pingveno> ThinkPads, of course, don't have a Win key
[11:20] <icecruncher> _StefanS_: how do i bypass the password box, i don't want it.
[11:20] <icecruncher> lol
[11:20] <ayjamob> program are in process but not in panel or traybar, only on restart i see them
[11:20] <_StefanS_> well you dont ;)
[11:20] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17755/
[11:20] <ademan> anyone willing to tell me their success/failure rate resizing ext3 partitions with (g|q)parted?
[11:20] <GuHHH> tuco fullscreen the terminal and copy the entire section
[11:20] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: you cant really bypass the dialog, because thats why you use it :)
[11:20] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: it is supposed to popup
[11:20] <icecruncher> :)
[11:21] <_StefanS_> :D
[11:21] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: bah :P
[11:21] <llutz> icecruncher: you _can_ configure sudo that way no password is needed, but you won't want that! :)
[11:21] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17756/
[11:21] <tuco> I never pasted so much in my life geeez!
[11:21] <GuHHH> lol
[11:21] <GuHHH> tuco: is that the end of ur file?
[11:22] <_StefanS_> pingveno: you can remap the keyboard you using some commandline stuff. But I think you need to go into the KHotkeys control panel to figure it graphically
[11:22] <_StefanS_> llutz: just my point ;)
[11:22] <tuco> silly me!
[11:22] <_4strO> GuHHH: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be easyer
[11:22] <GuHHH> tuco: send me ur xorg.conf and i will edit it
[11:23] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17757/
[11:23] <pingveno> _StefanS_: How would I go about finding that?
[11:23] <icecruncher> _StefanS_: i get the following
[11:23] <icecruncher> KDEInit could not launch 'Kdesu'.:
[11:23] <icecruncher> Could not find 'Kdesu' executable.
[11:23] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: case sensitive.. your on unix
[11:23] <tuco> I can see the error now...aie aie aie
[11:23] <icecruncher> oops
[11:23] <_StefanS_> pingveno: well I was trying to remember because I actually remapped my keyboard once
[11:24] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: take your glasses, and polish them ;D
[11:24] <pingveno> _StefanS_: I tried running khotkeys on the command line, but there was an error
[11:24] <pingveno> "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."
[11:24] <_4strO> tuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ (your file with corrections)
[11:25] <_StefanS_> icecruncher: bigbrother is watching you.
[11:25] <icecruncher> hahaha
[11:25] <tuco> Yes...I didn't see that I could extend the window! pfffffffffff
[11:25] <GuHHH> tuco: no, no, no...
[11:25] <_StefanS_> pingveno: maybe you can use this: http://homepage.mac.com/jafingerhut/files/key-remapping.txt
[11:25] <GuHHH> tuco: dont do anything...
[11:25] <llutz> pingveno:try using xmodmap
[11:26] <pingveno> llutz: I tried out xmodmap, but I'm having trouble getting it to work :/
[11:26] <GuHHH> tuco: wait a minute, dont edit ur file
[11:26] <tuco> ok
[11:26] <_StefanS_> pingveno: yea xmodmap .. that was the one
[11:26] <_StefanS_> pingveno: http://www.microserf.org.uk/weblogs/archives/000193.html
[11:26] <pingveno> k
[11:26] <_4strO> GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ let him put this :p
[11:26] <tuco> the first line is wrong though, it needs to be Depth 1 I guess!
[11:26] <pingveno> Ah, perfect
[11:26] <pingveno> I'll try that out
[11:26] <_StefanS_> yep should work.
[11:26] <GuHHH> _4strO: no man.
[11:27] <_4strO> why ?
[11:27] <GuHHH> tuco: just remove that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17760/
[11:27] <tuco> why GuHHH?
[11:27] <_4strO> ...
[11:27] <GuHHH> _4strO: because u have it duplicated on ur file
[11:27] <GuHHH> ops
[11:27] <_4strO> niet
[11:27] <GuHHH> tuco: because u have it duplicated on ur file
[11:28] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone use proxy?
[11:28] <tuco> it was DEpth 1 originally
[11:28] <_4strO> just change the one he gave
[11:28] <tuco> my mistake because I changed it to 24, but there was 24 at the bottom of that line!
[11:28] <_4strO> tuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/ trust me
[11:28] <_4strO> :p
[11:29] <GuHHH> tuco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17761/
[11:29] <GuHHH> tuco: it must be like that
[11:29] <pingveno> That's one beautiful interface on xkeycaps
[11:29] <_4strO> GuHHH: stop that !!!
[11:29] <GuHHH> _4strO: please, dont mess the whole thing, im doing it the right way, part by part
[11:30] <tuco> guys...
[11:30] <GuHHH> tuco: please, do as i told you
[11:30] <_4strO> GuHHH: on the depth 1 line an "s" is missing at mode
[11:30] <tuco> I am getting really tired, so just tell me what I need to do to get into 1280x800 pleeeeeeeeease!
[11:31] <_4strO> tuco: do what you want but know that this one is correct ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17759/
[11:31] <GuHHH> tuco: okay, ur screen file should be like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17763/
[11:31] <_StefanS_> tuco: btw, you should just leave that HorizSync and VertRefresh out of the config file. Thats what I recommend anyways, let X decide what ranges your monitor can handle
[11:31] <GuHHH> lol
[11:31] <tuco> Arggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:31] <tams> heyya
[11:31] <GuHHH> tuco: man, im trying to help you, just listen to me... it will work, trust me
[11:31] <tuco> Ok I do as you say you helped me so far/
[11:31] <dromer> how can I make an script of one computer have access to the dcop-server of another pc on the network?
[11:31] <GuHHH> tuco: just make ur screen section looks like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17763/
[11:31] <llutz> _StefanS_: why?  most displays offer DDC-data, much better to use them
[11:32] <GuHHH> _4strO: i know it may work, but im trying to make it fail-safe, copy?
[11:32] <GuHHH> :)
[11:32] <_4strO> GuHHH: Modes           "1280x800""
[11:32] <_4strO> ...
[11:32] <GuHHH> lol
[11:33] <_StefanS_> llutz: well you may not have read my sentence fully... I acutally said he should leaven them OUT of the file
[11:33] <_4strO> and i'm not sure i'ts a giood idea tu put only one resolution
[11:33] <hatter> hmmm, in gnome there was a desktop network thing that found the windows shares on the network automatically, what is that program in kde ?
[11:33] <GuHHH> tuco: a second please
[11:33] <llutz> _StefanS_: ops,sry
[11:33] <_StefanS_> n
[11:33] <_StefanS_> np
[11:33] <_4strO> GuHHH: you will finish by write the same as the one I do
[11:33] <GuHHH> tuco: here is the correct, i mystyped the other http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17764/
[11:34] <GuHHH> _4strO: it will force that resolution, simple
[11:34] <dromer> hatter: don't you mean samba?
[11:34] <GuHHH> tuco: just make ur screen section like that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17764/
[11:35] <hatter> yes, the smbclient, in the gnome it was automatic, quite nice
[11:35] <tuco> Ok I messed up by deleting some stuff in the terminal. Can I restart from scratch?
[11:35] <dromer> hatter: afaik in DKE it's also automatic ..
[11:35] <GuHHH> tuco: yes
[11:35] <_4strO> tuco: you can "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:35] <dromer> hatter: KDE*
[11:35] <tuco> Ok I close it
[11:35] <hatter> konqueror just did it, but i had to put the machine name in
[11:36] <GuHHH> tuco: can u send me ur xorg.conf? :)
[11:36] <GuHHH> tuco: i can do that for u
[11:37] <tuco> How can I send it to you GuHHH?
[11:37] <llutz> tuco: just paste it
[11:37] <_4strO> lol
[11:37] <llutz> to paste.ubuntu... off course
[11:37] <ian__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2538114
[11:37] <GuHHH> tuco: click on my nick with right button, send file
[11:37] <_StefanS_> So why arent you guys telling him to use a terminal and the ncurses based interface found in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -a ?
[11:38] <_StefanS_> He can construct a file from there
[11:38] <GuHHH> tuco: or try paste the whole file ...
[11:38] <tuco> It isn't funny Astro. I am a beginner so obviously I ask silly questions!
[11:38] <GuHHH> tuco: or try paste the whole file ... and we edit it for you
[11:38] <tuco> Do I do that from the terminal or Kate GuHHH?
[11:39] <_4strO> tuco: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" is for open your file in a graphical text editor ;)
[11:39] <Maxtehmantus> Question: How do I make the installer treat a partition as a swap drive?
[11:39] <Maxtehmantus> Oh, duh.
[11:39] <Maxtehmantus> Wrong fs.
[11:39] <hatter> dromer: you are right, the main screen of konqueror finds the smb shares
[11:39] <Jucato> :/
[11:39] <_4strO> tuco: i think uit would be easyer for you
[11:39] <GuHHH> tuco: do as _4strO told and paste it
[11:39] <dromer> hatter: (Y)
[11:39] <Jucato> hatter: or smb:/ or remote:/ in Konqueror will also
[11:40] <dromer> ok, so anybody here with dcop-skills that can help me with my problem? :)
[11:40] <hatter> jucato: thx
[11:40] <Maxtehmantus> Also, does kubuntu treat all HDDs as sd*, or just the LiveCD?
[11:40] <_4strO> Maxtehmantus: all
[11:40] <hatter> this kubuntu is great :)
[11:40] <Jucato> dromer: why not ask the question and then we'll find out :)
[11:40] <Maxtehmantus> Ok.
[11:40] <GuHHH> tuco: so?
[11:40] <tuco> GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17766/
[11:40] <hatter> think i prefer kde over gnome
[11:41] <dromer> Jucato: I did two times already ;)
[11:41] <Maxtehmantus> ^^
[11:41] <Maxtehmantus> Kde > Gnome
[11:41] <hatter> agreed
[11:41] <Maxtehmantus> The devs of KDE should change the default theme though.
[11:41] <dromer> gnome is ok if your like .. 5
[11:41] <Jucato> dromer: not everyone will be able to see those 2 times :)
[11:41] <dromer> Jucato: ok, I'll paste again ;)
[11:41] <Maxtehmantus> They make people turn away from it because of that. I can't stand the default theme.
[11:41] <bi0h4z4rd> mornin folks, I've got what could be a quick question, or it may be a little more involved, is there a way to run two LAMP machines with almost instant failover?
[11:41] <tuco> GuHHH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17766/
[11:41] <GuHHH> tuco: okay
[11:41] <tams> Maxtehmantus: any good theme advice?
[11:41] <dromer> can someone help me get this irssi-script to work?  http://www.irssi.org/scripts/html/amaroknp.pl.html  it's for  nowplaying of Amarok, but irssi and amarok are on two  different pc's, the script needs the "dcop" of amarok to  work, but I don't know how I can make it access it over the  network
[11:41] <Jucato> Maxtehmantus: default themes are in the area of distros already though. not KDE itself
[11:42] <Jucato> dromer: ah... quite... unusual :)
[11:42] <dromer> Jucato: in what way unusual? :P
[11:42] <GuHHH> tuco: now in the same window that u had make ur copy, erase everything and paste this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17767/) there and save it
[11:42] <tams> dromer: what about last.fm?
[11:42] <Maxtehmantus> Then why do distribs always use the same default theme?
[11:43] <Maxtehmantus> And on the KDE site, the navigation examples are of this theme.
[11:43] <GuHHH> tuco: or better, save that file as a backup... :)
[11:43] <Jucato> dromer: dcop over network... unusual for me... so I don't know :(
[11:43] <GuHHH> tuco: and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17767/ your new xorg.conf and save it
[11:43] <dromer> tams: tried it, but seems very illogiral to send the info first to some server ocrass the world, then back to my pc that's standing right next to it ..
[11:43] <dromer> Jucato: oh, ok
[11:44] <tuco> ok done GuHH
[11:44] <GuHHH> tuco: after u saved it, please, past again
[11:44] <GuHHH> i mean, *paste
[11:45] <dromer> tams: using last.fm also has lots of delay, I want my np to reflect what I'm playing _now_
[11:47] <GuHHH> tuco: did u paste it?
[11:49] <marnick> hi - i am looking for help with an upgrade problem
[11:49] <GuHHH> stdin: wheres stdout?
[11:49] <nbcb> !samba
[11:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:49] <icecruncher> deleting a directory is like this right? rm -d name
[11:49] <GuHHH> marnick: be more specfical
[11:50] <GuHHH> rm -rf name
[11:50] <hatter> icecruncher: rm -fr name
[11:50] <stdin> GuHHH: he's out at the moment :p
[11:50] <nbcb> is samba the only way to share files with windows?
[11:50] <stdin> !samba | nbcb
[11:50] <ubotu> nbcb: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:50] <icecruncher> :)
[11:50] <tuco> You want me to paste what the terminal shows GuHHH?
[11:50] <GuHHH> stdin: i see, like always
[11:50] <nbcb> are there other ways?
[11:50] <hatter> nbcb: no you can mount the smbfs
[11:50] <stdin> nbcb: ftp, http, ssh ...
[11:50] <GuHHH> tuco: yes, did u edited as i told and saved it? also did u make a backup of the other file?
[11:50] <hatter> you can ftp, ssh,
[11:51] <hatter> winssh works
[11:51] <marnick> apologies, I submitted a bug Bug 110182 and someone kindly replied but i need a bit more help.
[11:51] <hatter> oops
[11:51] <hatter> winscp
[11:51] <hatter> or tunnelier
[11:51] <tuco> Yes I did
[11:51] <GuHHH> marnick whats ur problem exactly? ppl cant help you if u dont help them to understand you
[11:52] <GuHHH> tuco: paste it to me please
[11:52] <nbcb> ok for windows to be able to search for network drive, i must use samba right?
[11:52] <tuco> from terminal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17770/
[11:52] <stdin> marnick: just do as he asks
[11:53] <marnick> when i run the update wizard it stops with the error
[11:53] <marnick> Failed to fetch
[11:53] <marnick> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[11:53] <marnick> 404 Not Found
[11:53] <GuHHH> tuco: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste
[11:53] <hatter> nbcb: search ?
[11:53] <_4strO> nbcb: right !
[11:53] <GuHHH> tuco: so i can see the whole file, its better, so i can see if ur file is okay
[11:54] <hatter> nbcb: you can mount the smb share, then cp to/from it
[11:54] <marnick> the reply suggested I modify sources.list but there is nothing in htere that relates to amarok specifically
[11:54] <stdin> marnick: comment out the source that loos something like "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok/ edgy main"
[11:54] <tuco> Kate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17771
[11:54] <GuHHH> marnick yes, there is...
[11:54] <stdin> marnick: check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:54] <GuHHH> marnick go to sources.list and comment that line
[11:54] <marnick> ok - 2 seconds
[11:55] <nbcb> hatter: yup the search for network .. ok i install samba first
[11:55] <_4strO> ...
[11:55] <GuHHH> tuco: okay, ctrl-alt-backspace and startx
[11:56] <nanothief> hey, whats in the dvd of kubuntu feisty that isn't in the cd?
[11:56] <marnick> :-) yes there is ! heheh I missed it 1st time round.  thanks guys
[11:56] <GuHHH> :)
[11:56] <tuco> Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
[11:56] <GuHHH> tuco: :)
[11:56] <tuco> Halleluiah Dude...
[11:57] <tuco> After all this time.
[11:57] <tuco> Thank you very, very much mu friend!
[11:57] <hatter> nbcb: mount.smbfs
[11:57] <tuco> Don't go, don't go...I have a few questions left for you :-)
[11:58] <GuHHH> tuco: hey... now make a backup of xorg.conf
[11:58] <GuHHH> tuco: and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17772/ your xorg.conf and test it again
[11:58] <tuco> I have an audigy 2 zs notebook card for the laptop and another onboard sound. How can I make the audigy2 the default one please GuHHH?
[11:58] <Maxtehmantus> Finished installation.. Now to see if it works.
[11:59] <Maxtehmantus> Been fairly trivial, including backing up 2 partitions and wiping a HDD.
[12:00] <GuHHH> tuco: first of all, u have to disable the onboard sound on bios
[12:01] <tuco> Hold on...I back up the file on desktop but it doesn't show anything when I look for it!
[12:01] <GuHHH> tuco: no, no... just rename ur xorg.conf to xorg.backup or something and make this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17772/ your xorg.conf  do u know how to do that?
[12:01] <gholm> hi all. how can I tell if 32 bit or 64 bit kubuntu is installed?
[12:02] <dwidmann> gholm uname -m
[12:02] <gholm> dwidmann: thanks
[12:02] <GuHHH> tuco: u can do it on terminal like this: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[12:03] <_4strO> GuHHH: sudo cp ...
[12:03] <gholm> dwidmann: i686 is 32 bit right?
[12:03] <dwidmann> yep
[12:03] <GuHHH> _4strO:  whatever
[12:03] <_4strO> GuHHH: mv will delete the source
[12:04] <GuHHH> yes, but he will make another one...
[12:04] <_4strO> ha ok
[12:04] <stdin> nanothief: the DVD is the desktop install and the alternate install cd in one, you can also do a server or OEM install from it. it also has more packages on it, so you can use it as an apt- source
[12:04] <GuHHH> i just hope he did as i told, lol
[12:04] <GuHHH> oh, good, hes back :D
[12:04] <tuco> Done GuHHH :-)
[12:04] <GuHHH> nice, is it at 1280x800?
[12:05] <tuco> yes sir ;-)
[12:05] <GuHHH> ok then, everythings okay
[12:05] <tuco> Very nice indeed
[12:05] <tuco> One thing
[12:05] <tuco> or a few sorry :-)
[12:05] <GuHHH> tuco: dont worry about that, im pleased to help
[12:05] <nanothief> stdin, thanks
[12:05] <GuHHH> tuco: did u disabled ur onboard soundcard on bios?
[12:06] <tuco> Can't do that it's a laptop!
[12:06] <_4strO> tuco: you can ;)
[12:07] <tuco> The notebook card is lit, so it means drivers are installed. All I need is to make this card the default one.
[12:07] <tuco> Can I disable it really?
[12:07] <_4strO> tuco: yep
[12:07] <tuco> In windows I can but here...
[12:07] <GuHHH> tuco: u have to.
[12:08] <GuHHH> tuco: its on BIOS... press del or f1 when booting
[12:08] <dwidmann> easiest way to all-out disable something is to blacklist the drivers
[12:08] <GuHHH> tuco: but i do not suggest u to mess there if u dont know what u are doing :P
[12:08] <tuco> Ok will do that. But what Should I do to have the audigy card the default one?
[12:09] <_4strO> dwidmann: where you blacklist module ?
[12:09] <_4strO> driver
[12:09] <dwidmann> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:09] <Cugel> Dudes, I'm going to ask this question again, since last night we were unable to solve it.
[12:09] <_4strO> ok thx
[12:09] <Cugel> I want to run xscreensaver on my first screen only (0:0). I just don't understand the manual where it says to use [-display host:display.screen]   -- what do I enter there???
[12:09] <GuHHH> dwidmann: but what driver? :P
[12:10] <dwidmann> lsmod migth give you a hint on that one
[12:10] <Cugel> I've tried _everything_ and it keeps saying it's unable to open the display (0:0)
[12:10] <stdin> Cugel: -display :0.0
[12:10] <dwidmann> google  might too
[12:10] <_4strO> :p
[12:10] <stdin> Cugel: use the right syntax :)
[12:11] <Cugel> Trying...
[12:11] <Cugel> I've tried all kinds of syntax already :-)
[12:11] <stdin> Cugel: 0:0 = display "0" on host name "0"
[12:11] <GuHHH> lsmod |grep snd
[12:11] <Cugel> At least I don't get the error this time!
[12:11] <dwidmann> speaking of multiple screens, is there any way to get katapult running on both of my screens (using xinerama)
[12:11] <stdin> Cugel: :0.0 = display "0" screen "0" on the localhost
[12:12] <Jucato> oh so that's what :0:0 means :)
[12:12] <stdin> Jucato: no :0.0, not :0:0 :P
[12:12] <GuHHH> does anyone knows if is it possible to get beryl working with fglrx driver (ati proprietary driver)?
[12:12] <dwidmann> Jucato: so it would seem, I think that means I learned something today too
[12:13] <_4strO> GuHHH: yes but you have to user XGL
[12:13] <_4strO> -r
[12:20] <tuco> GuHHH thanks so much for your effort mate. Much appreciated :-) You're a star!
[12:20] <GuHHH> tuco: lol, thanks... but im not! i will try to help everytime i can :)
[12:21] <tuco> Couldn't disable onboard sound in the bios though, all I need is make the Audigy 2 card the default one.
[12:21] <GuHHH> tuco try to do as dwidmann told... blacklisting the modules for ur onboard soundcard
[12:22] <GuHHH> tuco: try lsmod |grep snd and paste it
[12:22] <tuco> what is the command please?
[12:24] <tuco> I guess I did it a different way let me reboot :-)
[12:26] <Cugel> stdin: I did xscreensaver -display :0.0 &   -- but my display 0:1 (my television) is still also blanking!
[12:26] <dial-tone> GuHHH: so kubunta can detect Sound Blaster Audigy, due to right now, it detects my onboard sound card snd_ac97_codec.
[12:27] <tuco> Did it GuHHH :-)
[12:27] <stdin> Cugel: I don't know much about xscreensaver app, I just know what the displays are called
[12:27] <Cugel> I can't find any working example on the big interweb.
[12:28] <tuco> Feels so good to stop using Vista (Sick!)
[12:29] <dwidmann> tuco: Is it really that bad? (I can only imagine)
[12:29] <dial-tone> dwidmann: its a nightmare, you have to search for alot of the drivers and some programs that come off sourceforge will not work
[12:30] <tuco> Honestly...so heavy...takes so much ressources. Response is slow in eveything you do...it might nice but it needs a big machine. My laptop runs like a dream on Kubuntu :-)
[12:30] <GuHHH> tuco is it working?
[12:30] <tuco> Yes sir :-)
[12:30] <tuco> I did it
[12:30] <Cugel> stdin: I tried verbose mode and it says: "running on display ":0.0" (2 screens)"  -- aha! So... how do I get it to run on the one screen?
[12:30] <GuHHH> tuco: u must disable the services on VISTA
[12:30] <tuco> Nope
[12:31] <tuco> U must disable Vista at all!
[12:31] <GuHHH> tuco: windows isnt a bad system u just have to know how to use it :D
[12:31] <tuco> I know believe me
[12:31] <GuHHH> i love my XP, anyway :)
[12:31] <GuHHH> it loads only 90mb on memory
[12:31] <tuco> Can I install Beryl now GuHHH? :-)
[12:31] <GuHHH> with everything installed
[12:31] <dial-tone> GuHHH: Xp is good.. Vista is nightmare at the moment
[12:32] <GuHHH> dial-tone: yeah, really, i dont even used vista, but i know it sucks, at least for gaming :D
[12:32] <dwidmann> GuHHH: tried fluxbox?
[12:32] <tuco> Vista is toooooooooooo heavy
[12:32] <dwidmann> it loads *very* light also
[12:32] <GuHHH> dwidmann: what for? less memory usage?
[12:32] <stdin> Cugel: :0.0 should mean only one screen, unless the app can't only display on one screen
[12:32] <Cugel> Indeed. Hmm.
[12:33] <GuHHH> dwidmann: but i cant game on linux, not as good as i want :D
[12:33] <stdin> tuco: I played with vista for nearly half an hour, then installed feisty and haven't looked back
[12:33] <GuHHH> dwidmann: so thats not the point, but i tried it, yeap :)
[12:33] <dial-tone> GuHHH: had my laptop in for repair, they installed Vista, due to they wiped out my XP drive. Been playing for a few months, it really bad
[12:33] <GuHHH> tuco http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[12:33] <tuco> I am on the same path Stdin :-)
[12:34] <tuco> It is in the repo Guhhh. My card will support it yes?
[12:34] <tuco> ATI X1400
[12:35] <GuHHH> tuco: type lspci and tell me whats ur videocard chipset
[12:37] <tuco> GuHHH: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[12:38] <Maxtehmantus> Install worked.. Unfortunately, didn't back up /usr :(
[12:39] <compilerwriter> anybody have a clue what is going on with the Monitor & Display Module not working for some reason?
[12:39] <tuco> Feisty is an aboslute delight to use now...I am in love again folks!
[12:41] <GuHHH> tuco: is it everything? :/
[12:41] <tuco> Only the video card part. Why?
[12:41] <GuHHH> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK [Radeon X800] 
[12:41] <GuHHH> it should show the Rxxx wich is the chipset version
[12:42] <tuco> nah it isn't there
[12:42] <tuco> I only put ATI RADEON X1400 when I entered the info
[12:43] <tuco> X1400 is the chipset
[12:44] <Maxtehmantus> Why am I not able to configure a second panel?
[12:44] <GuHHH> tuco: no... its the videocard model :P
[12:45] <tuco> well nothing else that I can see my friend
[12:45] <GuHHH> tuco: yes i know, itsnt ur fault :)
[12:46] <tuco> Beryl should work no?
[12:46] <GuHHH> tuco: well, u can try install beryl and configure everything, i guess the worst thing is that you may not run xserver (startx) anymore, but its remotely possible :P
[12:46] <_4strO> no
[12:46] <GuHHH> or maybe, just beryl. ;P
[12:46] <tuco> Hoh what's that mean GuHHH?
[12:47] <tuco> I may not run xserver?
[12:47] <GuHHH> tuco: well, in my case, the only driver that i can run xserver is with fglrx, hopefully it wont help with u
[12:47] <GuHHH> :P
[12:47] <tuco> This is the driver I have for my ATI no?
[12:49] <GuHHH> tuco: yes, but running beryl with that is very difficult :P
[12:49] <tuco> crap
[12:49] <dusty-work> Hey guys I am installing kubuntu on my laptop (dual booting with windows) I have 50gb of unpartitioned space left on the drive.. i want to use 2gb for swap and the rest for / then install linux onto it. THe issue i have is, when i get to the partition bit of the kubuntu install the options I get are: guided resize, guided use entire disk or guided use the largest continuous free space or manual.. (i tried before and it kept m
[12:49] <dusty-work> aking the partition 2gb which is not enough) what should i do to get what i want?
[12:49] <tuco> :-(
[12:50] <tuco> Damn I wanted to use Beryl...
[12:50] <GuHHH> i will restart X, just a moment
[12:51] <dusty-work> tuco, beryl is nice :)
[12:51] <dusty-work> I got it working yesterday.
[12:51] <dusty-work> so about the partitions anyone?
[12:51] <tuco> Looks like I can't!
[12:51] <Mez|OnAir> whats the best way for me to share my music between my desktop and my laptop?
[12:52] <ian__> how do i check my kde version?
[12:52] <tuco> I kept 50 gig for windows because I run Reason and I need space for samples, the rest went to Kubuntu :-)
[12:52] <JohnFlux> Mez|OnAir: both linux?
[12:52] <JohnFlux> ian__: Help->about  kde    in any kde app
[12:52] <Mez|OnAir> JohnFlux, indeed
[12:53] <JohnFlux> Mez|OnAir: install ssh, then use  fish:/
[12:53] <Mez|OnAir> (or will be once I've installed xubuntu on the laptop
[12:53] <ian__> ty JohnFlux
[12:53] <Mez|OnAir> JohnFlux, I want it to be able to load the music collection in amarok though
[12:53] <Mez|OnAir> so my co presenter can play with the music and see whats worth playing
[12:53] <JohnFlux> Mez|OnAir: maybe nfs is better
[12:54] <Mez|OnAir> JohnFlux, though I could use a fusssh mount
[12:54] <tuco> So GuHHH can I run Beryl at all? :-(
[12:54] <JohnFlux> Mez|OnAir: sure, but might as well use a filesystem properly designed for this
[12:54] <JohnFlux> Mez|OnAir: nfs is probably more than capable
[12:54] <JohnFlux> !nfs
[12:54] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:54] <GuHHH> tuco: u can try... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[12:54] <GuHHH> tuco: but it seems ur video card isnt supported, but give it a try
[12:55] <GuHHH> tuco: i guess the worst that will happen is that beryl wont load :D
[12:55] <tuco> Well I don't want to risk it. It is too much of a pain to install the ATI drivers etc...
[12:55] <tuco> Can you write a script of how it needs to be done for me please in case something bad happens one day! :-)
[12:56] <tuco> That would be great GuHHH
[12:57] <GuHHH> tuco: sadly i dont know much about beryl, never installed it, by the way, im trying it right now... lol
[12:58] <AussieHatter> hmmm,  just after i told someone how great kubuntu is it crashed hard on me
[12:58] <GuHHH> but i suggest u to follow this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon           as i am doing :D
[12:58] <AussieHatter> what am i supposed to do when it completely freezes and I have to do a hard reset ?  does kde have a crash log or something ?
[12:59] <_4strO> GuHHH: i tried it and works fine for me
[12:59] <tuco> Beryl feels like just a lovely lady you want to invite for a drink but always refuses the invite!
[01:00] <_4strO> lol
[01:00] <AussieHatter> beryl looked good on mysystem,  though it doesnt work with xinerama i believe and i have 3 monitors
[01:00] <dwidmann> Hmm, it doesn't?
[01:01] <dwidmann> I think I might test that theory now, I'll bee-arrr-bee
[01:02] <AussieHatter> dwidmann: let me know :)
[01:02] <GuHHH> _4strO: i tried with fglrx, now im trying with free drivers :D
[01:02] <Mez|OnAir> JohnFlux, that howto is giving me a headache already ;D I was looking for something simple
[01:03] <compilerwriter> Does anyone know if the Monitor & Display module being broken has a fix?
[01:04] <dwidmann> Hmm, I haven't used beryl in a month or two, but yep, something failed pretty miserably
[01:07] <Mez|OnAir> !beryl | dwidmann
[01:07] <ubotu> dwidmann: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:08] <AussieHatter> hey !  thats me quitting !
[01:08] <AussieHatter> from my crashed fesity system !
[01:08] <bi0h4z4rd> anybody got any experience with kubuntu clustering and replication?
[01:08] <AussieHatter> ten minutes later....
[01:09] <_4strO> tuco: you're always here ?
[01:09] <_4strO> GuHHH: and so ?
[01:09] <GuHHH> blackscreen/keyboard non-functional
[01:09] <_4strO> is beryl fine ?
[01:09] <GuHHH> very nice. i loved beryl
[01:09] <GuHHH> lol
[01:10] <GuHHH> as i expected, the only driver i can run xserver is fglrx, sadly
[01:10] <_4strO> GuHHH: noway
[01:10] <tuco> Yes was in shower after a night On Kubuntu
[01:11] <_4strO> GuHHH: can you paste the xorg.conf u used ?
[01:11] <GuHHH> _4strO: its the true
[01:11] <dusty-work> Hey guys, I have an issue when partitioning my drive from the kubuntu live cd... i choose manual, create a .boot partiton of 100mb then a swap of 2gb then the remaining free space turns into "unusable" and i cant create any more partitions??
[01:11] <GuHHH> _4strO: yes.
[01:11] <GuHHH> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:11] <tuco> I am sad I won't be using Beryl. Why me...why why.....!
[01:12] <_4strO> tuco: i can help you on it
[01:12] <dusty-work> anyone?
[01:12] <llutz> dusty-work: there are other partitions on disk?
[01:12] <dusty-work> yes
[01:12] <dusty-work> windows one
[01:12] <dusty-work> i am dual booting
[01:12] <_4strO> tuco: but you have to know that if you want beryl, you will not have good perf on openGL applications
[01:12] <llutz> dusty-work: so you have 4 primaries now?
[01:13] <dusty-work> afaik
[01:13] <dusty-work> yes
[01:13] <llutz> dusty-work: you'll need one extended and in that new logical drives to use the space
[01:13] <GuHHH> _4strO: he has a radeon 1400, it may not be supported, but u can try :D
[01:13] <dusty-work> what mount poiont shall i make extended?
[01:13] <llutz> dusty-work: you cannot have more than 4 primary partitions
[01:13] <dusty-work> ah
[01:13] <GuHHH> _4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17779/
[01:14] <llutz> dusty-work: delete boot or swap and turn it into extented
[01:14] <dusty-work> what should be primary and what should be extended (/, /boot and swap) ?
[01:14] <llutz> dusty-work: why do you need /boot?
[01:15] <llutz> dusty-work: no difference primary/extended. linux uses all :)
[01:15] <dusty-work> llutz, don't know just a habbit making it
[01:15] <llutz> dusty-work: then forget about /boot  :)
[01:15] <dusty-work> ok
[01:15] <dusty-work> just swap and /
[01:15] <GuHHH> _4strO: i will be just back, a second.
[01:15] <dusty-work> so i make / first then swap later so that / is at the start
[01:15] <llutz> dusty-work: maybe extra /home
[01:16] <llutz> dusty-work: makes upgrading easier
[01:16] <dusty-work> sweet
[01:17] <dusty-work> thankyou very much llutz its all sorted now :-] 
[01:17] <llutz> np
[01:17] <grotsnik> which is better synaptic or adept
[01:17] <dusty-work> I prefer apt-get :)
[01:18] <llutz> aptitude :)
[01:18] <grotsnik> personally i perfer synaptic
[01:18] <llutz> grotsnik: use what you like
[01:18] <grotsnik> but then again i have been ofline for three years
[01:18] <_4strO> GuHHH: on difference with my xorg.conf : Option "ColorTiling"	"on"
[01:18] <GuHHH> _4strO: do u have an ati too?
[01:19] <_4strO> but dont know if it change anything
[01:19] <_4strO> GuHHH: ati x600
[01:19] <GuHHH> _4strO: i cant run radeon driver at all :)
[01:19] <_4strO> weird
[01:19] <grotsnik> its all good
[01:19] <GuHHH> really.
[01:19] <grotsnik> yes
[01:21] <dwidmann> Hmm, he was right, didn't work with xinerama
[01:24] <_4strO> GuHHH: think you misszed something
[01:24] <_4strO> it have to work !
[01:24] <GuHHH> not even vesa works
[01:24] <GuHHH> :P
[01:25] <dwidmann> ??
[01:25] <GuHHH> my monitor just shuts down and keyboard do not work, so i cant even get back to command line
[01:25] <dwidmann> GuHHH: <sarcasm>have fun with your ATI card</sarcasm>
[01:26] <GuHHH> lol
[01:29] <_4strO> GuHHH: what i dont understand is the link between driver ati and keyboard features
[01:29] <deiphage> maybe try older more reliable driver
[01:29] <GuHHH> _4strO: lol,  not even i do
[01:31] <jpa> hi all
[01:31] <jpa> Id like to install a kubuntu over an existing debian sid with LVM partitionning
[01:31] <RatThing> GuHHH, _4str0 check out wikipedia for explanation on X Window System :-)
[01:31] <jpa> I have a /home of 36 Go I'd like Kubuntu to use
[01:31] <jpa> all others, I dont mind
[01:32] <_4strO> RatThing: ...
[01:32] <GuHHH> what for?
[01:32] <RatThing> "what i dont understand is the link between driver ati and keyboard features"
[01:32] <_4strO> GuHHH: did you look at the xorg log ?
[01:32] <RatThing> XServer is the ATI driver
[01:33] <jpa> is that kind of thing possible booting with the "alternate" version ?
[01:33] <jpa> will kubuntu will see this lvm partitionning?
[01:33] <_4strO> RatThing: u think my ati driver manage my keyboard ?
[01:33] <_4strO> lol
[01:33] <deiphage> i about to install MEPIS
[01:34] <deiphage> clames to be able to see non standard herdware
[01:35] <_4strO> GuHHH: dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-glx
[01:35] <amanda> !konversation
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <jpa> !migrate
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about migrate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <jpa> !debian
[01:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[01:36] <GuHHH> _4strO: its installed...
[01:37] <tuco> Got disconnected sorry guys
[01:37] <GuHHH> _4strO: ii  libgl1-mesa-glx                            6.5.2-3ubuntu7
[01:37] <tuco> so what's up with Beryl?
[01:38] <_4strO> GuHHH: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati
[01:38] <_4strO> tuco: if you want beryl you have to use the free driver
[01:38] <tuco> what's that mean?
[01:39] <_4strO> tuco: that openGL application will be slow
[01:39] <tuco> for games?
[01:39] <_4strO> tuco: yes, the only one i can play is openarena
[01:40] <vecina>  I need some help... VESA makes my monitor lose connection because of my graphics card, a Radeon x700 (I looked it up - everyone i found with my problem has that card. Drat). Well, fglrx or whatever makes it work if i set it up in xserver-xorg with recovery mode before loading up kdm/gdm/whatever. That works. But when i reboot, if i log in using normal mode (non-recovery), it's switched back automatically to VESA and i cant get in
[01:40] <tuco> Nah don't care about games. I have my DS for that ;-) As long as I can make Beryl work on my Acer 5670 I am fine!
[01:41] <_4strO> tuco: ok :)
[01:41] <GuHHH> _4strO:  xserver-xorg-video-ati                     6.6.3-2ubuntu6
[01:41] <tuco> so you reckon Beryl could work with the ATI X1400 then?
[01:41] <GuHHH> vecina: lol, welcome to the group
[01:41] <_4strO> tuco: cant say before trying :p
[01:42] <vecina> LOL ati issues are going berzerk in feisty
[01:42] <GuHHH> vecina:  i have the exactly same problem
[01:42] <tuco> there are not issues Vecina.
[01:42] <vecina> GuHHH: You using a radeon x700?
[01:42] <tuco> They are diplomatic incidents at this stage!
[01:42] <_4strO> weird i dont have any pb
[01:42] <GuHHH> vecina x800
[01:43] <vecina> GuHHH: We're getting snubbed for using ATIs
[01:43] <_4strO> i'm using an X600
[01:43] <GuHHH> vecina: try nano /etc/inittab and add the line: id:3:initdefault:
[01:43] <tuco> me A X1400
[01:43] <_4strO> tuco: you already have a backup of your xorg.conf file right ?
[01:43] <stanley> hi guys
[01:43] <GuHHH> fuckin beryl and ati, just hate that
[01:43] <stanley> my computer doesn't recognise vcd's
[01:44] <_4strO> !codecs | stanley
[01:44] <ubotu> stanley: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:44] <stanley> then when i try playing them in kaffeine kaffeine closes
[01:44] <stanley> i already installed the restricted formats
[01:44] <stanley> all that stuff
[01:44] <vecina> there is no inittab
[01:44] <caris_mere> How can I change permissions of a directory and all its contents?
[01:44] <vecina> whats up with beryl and ati?
[01:45] <tuco> I think I do $stro
[01:45] <tuco> 4stro ooops
[01:46] <tuco> they are cheating on each other Vecina
[01:46] <_4strO> :)
[01:46] <vecina> tuco: How so
[01:46] <tuco> One loves us, the other don't!
[01:46] <_4strO> tuco: type "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri"
[01:47] <GuHHH> vecina: works as fine as it works when u boot ur ubuntu feist :D
[01:47] <tuco> what this this 4stro?
[01:47] <_4strO> for having beryl works :p
[01:47] <GuHHH> he probably has those packets already
[01:47] <_4strO> think so but have to be sure ;)
[01:47] <GuHHH> packages i meant
[01:48] <vecina> aw
[01:49] <vecina> Soooooo any idea how i can make fglrx(sp) the default instead of VESA so it quits reverting back on reboot? Id like to be able to log in without reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[01:49] <zengrong> i m new man
[01:50] <vecina> im just a new man.... yeah you made me live again *guitar*
[01:50] <tuco> ok then you'll be sure and I wait for you :-)
[01:50] <zengrong> what?
[01:50] <vecina> nothing lol
[01:50] <vecina> *queen fan*
[01:50] <_4strO> tuco: can you paste your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:50] <zengrong> guitar ?
[01:50] <tuco> will the command affect my actual resolution 4stro?
[01:50] <zengrong> ya .i love guitar
[01:50] <tuco> ok
[01:50] <GuHHH> vecina: dpkg-reconfigure or edit xorg.conf
[01:50] <vecina> Guitar solo
[01:51] <zengrong> ya
[01:51] <GuHHH> vecina: and do what i told you, on /etc/inittab, try it
[01:51] <vecina> GuHHH: I did dpkg-reconfigure, but when im not using recovery mode it reverst back
[01:51] <vecina> GuHHH: There is no /etc/inittab
[01:51] <GuHHH> so create it
[01:51] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17781/
[01:51] <vecina> ok, what do i put in it
[01:52] <_4strO> tuco: ok i will write the new one :)
[01:52] <tuco> HUh!
[01:53] <epimeth> arrrrg.... ugly windowsssssss
[01:53] <zengrong> byby
[01:54] <epimeth> geez... is nobody gonna fall for the bait?
[01:54] <_4strO> tuco: can you paste the /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:55] <gholm> hows this? The 32 bit Edgy sees my SATAII drive but the 64 bit doesn't.  Neither Feistys even load. What gives? I have an ATI 690G chipset
[01:55] <epimeth> fine... I'll just ask then!
[01:55] <epimeth> problem occured as follows:
[01:55] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17782/
[01:55] <epimeth> I installed quanta and all of its sister programs
[01:55] <epimeth> that worked fine
[01:56] <epimeth> at the same time I installed the program that allows for unpacking of CAB files
[01:56] <epimeth> didn't test it, but I didn't run into any problems
[01:56] <epimeth> then I installed wine through the system configuration
[01:56] <epimeth> now I'm unsure when I ran into problems
[01:57] <epimeth> either at this point Konversation died
[01:57] <epimeth> or it died after I ran ies4linux
[01:57] <epimeth> reguardless, it died and X refused to reopen it for whatever reason
[01:57] <epimeth> ies4linux did not install as expected
[01:57] <tuco> Will have to go soon people. Have an important meeting for work...4stro and GuHHH I will need your email addresses for future help and contact if you don't mind :-)
[01:58] <epimeth> I got an error about not supporting wineconfigblablabla
[01:58] <epimeth> and "go install the newest version!"
[01:58] <epimeth> so I figured I'll ask you guys for help on that
[01:58] <epimeth> it was then I realized Konversation wasn't reopening
[01:59] <tuco> My best session in here today! Thumbs up guys :-)
[01:59] <epimeth> so I went to save the ies4linux error in kate
[01:59] <epimeth> kate didn't open
[01:59] <epimeth> so I saved it through nano
[01:59] <tuco> Cookie me...cookie you...ahaha haaaaaaaaaaa
[01:59] <gholm> anyone?
[02:00] <epimeth> and reset the box
[02:00] <gholm> hows this? The 32 bit Edgy sees my SATAII drive but the 64 bit doesn't.  Neither Feistys even load. What gives? I have an ATI 690G chipset
[02:00] <GuHHH> tuco: uselessid@ig.com.br :)
[02:00] <epimeth> kdm loaded juuuust fine
[02:00] <tuco> Cheers GuHH...tell 4stro I will be back later on if he comes back :-)
[02:00] <epimeth> put in my password, x / kde seemed to start loading (got a watch symbol for the cursor) and then found myself back in the kdm login screen
[02:01] <tuco> Thanks for your contact my friend and for your help today! ;_)
[02:01] <epimeth> whups... misread the thanks
[02:01] <_4strO> tuco: ok
[02:02] <tuco> ah man....your email address before I go please?
[02:02] <epimeth> so I try logging in again, to no avail
[02:02] <epimeth> a check of the old syslog gave the following, almost useless, info:
[02:02] <tuco> please let me know about Beryl 4stro ok?
[02:02] <_4strO> tuco: to be sure type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"
[02:02] <lettuce_> Ok, I just updated kubuntu, but now I don't have the trash can in the bottom right corner. Where is it!?
[02:03] <epimeth> kdm_greet [some pid] : INTERNAL ERROR: memory corruption detected
[02:03] <epimeth> kdm_greet [some pid] : Can't open default user face.
[02:03] <GuHHH> epimeth: thanks :D lol
[02:03] <_4strO> tuco: then "kdesu kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:03] <_4strO> oups
[02:03] <_4strO> -x + c
[02:04] <epimeth> so can anyone help me? its gonna be annoying cuz I only have one machine... will have to reboot back and forth
[02:04] <_4strO> tuco: then "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:04] <tuco> I haven't done anything 4stro...I have to go now. Can we try this later on today?
[02:04] <tuco> Will be here again tonight! :-)
[02:04] <tuco> See ya people! Have a fun time.
[02:05] <epimeth> is it just me or is "good morning / good night / will be back tonight" totally meaningless online?
[02:05] <Dragnslcr> !bluetooth
[02:05] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:06] <_4strO> tuco: you dont have 10 minutes ?
[02:06] <tuco> sorry dude I really have to go. Living in London sucks you know!
[02:06] <_4strO> lol
[02:06] <lettuce_> Where's the instructions for video card drivers
[02:06] <_4strO> tuco: save this in a file : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17783/
[02:07] <epimeth> !nvidia
[02:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:07] <Jucato> !nvidia
[02:07] <Jucato> bah :)
[02:07] <lettuce_> thank you
[02:07] <tuco> I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to go man. I will be here tonight :-)
[02:07] <epimeth> muahaha
[02:07] <tuco> Bye for now amigos.
[02:07] <epimeth> Jucato: beat you again!!!
[02:07] <epimeth> :-)
[02:07] <Jucato> :P
[02:07] <shad_yh> hi
[02:07] <epimeth> Jucato: you mind scrolling up a bit and reading my little problem?
[02:07] <GuHHH> tuco is ur card agp?
[02:08] <tuco> Laptop is acer 5670
[02:08] <shad_yh> does anybody know how to enable "root login in Gnome Display Mode" from recovery mode?
[02:08] <Jucato> epimeth: try checking if you have enough disk space?
[02:08] <tuco> with an X1400 card that much I know right now
[02:08] <tuco> bye bye bye and bye
[02:08] <epimeth> Jucato: trust me, there's enough space... a whole lotta gigs of enough space
[02:08] <_4strO> GuHHH: never mind if it's not, the option will not be used
[02:08] <Jucato> epimeth: in /  I mean
[02:09] <Jucato> (the / partition might not have enough space)
[02:09] <shad_yh> does anybody know how to enable "root login in Gnome Display Mode" from recovery mode?
[02:09] <epimeth> Jucato: I only have /
[02:09] <Jucato> shad_yh: try asking in #ubuntu for GNOME stuff
[02:09] <epimeth> but I'll check it as an option when I reboot
[02:09] <Jucato> epimeth: ah ok
[02:09] <epimeth> $dh -df         right?
[02:10] <epimeth> df -dh
[02:12] <Jucato> df -h
[02:12] <sharon__> hoi
[02:12] <sharon__> hoi
[02:13] <_Anne> hallo
[02:14] <epimeth> Jucato any other ideas?  I'm looking through launchpad atm
[02:14] <aldin> whats the difference between vmware server  and vmware workstation?
[02:15] <dusty-work> Hey guys, does anyone run kubuntu on the HP NX6325 laptop (I have a couple of issues with it) for example... when booting into linux, just BEFORE the kubuntu login screen after the system has booted up, it makes the screen go all fuzzy and funny then shows the login prompt, just wondering if there is a way to get rid of this?
[02:16] <jim23> hi, anyone knows why sha1sum returns 41 characters, when SHA-1 is supposed to have 160-bits ?
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> jim23- 160 bits is 40 characters, but I can't be sure what the extra character is
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Might be a newline or something
[02:17] <jim23> i thought a character is 8 bytes?
[02:18] <voicu> hi, i have an issue. i was on edgy and upgraded to feisty. when i login onto kde guidance-power-manager.py crashes. how can i stop it from starting or make it work?
[02:18] <jim23> sorry 1 byte
[02:18] <jim23> or is it utf?
[02:18] <voicu> i get no output when running the program in a terminal (as it crashes the same way)
[02:18] <dusty-work> Also issues with the wlan card and the laptop hp nx6325, so if anyone has linux working on this laptop successfully please let me know?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> jim23- oops, sorry. 20 bytes, which is 40 hexadecimal digits
[02:19] <jim23> oh i see!
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> I only get 40, so you might have miscounted the 41
[02:19] <Rubialoca> the best Spanish vidente visits his blog are very interesting rituals of love and many things but visitalo http://eltarotdesalem.blogspot.com/
[02:20] <l_r> hello
[02:20] <_4strO> sha1sum yourFile | wc -m
[02:21] <jim23> its really 41 chars ;)
[02:21] <l_r> 1. why doesn't knetwork support wpa-psk?
[02:22] <l_r> i need to setup a wireless card with wpa, not wep ,which is not obsolete and not safe
[02:22] <l_r> *it is obsolete
[02:23] <l_r> 2. i downloaded the dvd because i thought i would have installed everything from the dvd. on the contrary, it seems the installation includes few packages. how can i add the dvd source from within the installer?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> l_r- I don't think the DVD has any packages on it that you can't get through the regular repositories. I could be mistaken though
[02:26] <atidem> ciao!
[02:26] <l_r> Dragnslcr, i would like to profit by the fact the having a dvd with lot of packages saves me from loading from internet
[02:26] <caris_mere> kubuntu isn't using my swap space, how can I change this?
[02:28] <jim23> wc reads the \0
[02:28] <jim23> so it gives 41 ;)
[02:28] <jim23> thanks everyone :)
[02:29] <_4strO> ;)
[02:30] <Dragnslcr> l_r- I dunno offhand. I got the DVD more or less on a whim. The only drive I have on my old computer is a DVD burner, and the only media I have lying around are blank DVDs
[02:36] <VSpike> My 7.04 download won't install grub, and fails at that point of the installation.  I tried removing the current primary drive (I'm installing onto the secondary drive) to see if that was the problem (i.e. existing grub, or didn't like putting the grub onto another HD, etc.) but no change.  Can't find any useful info with Google.  Anyone got any other suggestions?
[02:37] <VSpike> I also tried grub-install hd0 from the terminal and that also failes
[02:37] <shad_yh> does anybody know how to create directory in recovery mode in ubuntu?
[02:37] <dwidmann> VSpike: it won't install grub? Does dpkg/apt give you any errors when you try?
[02:37] <dwidmann> shad_yh: mkdir
[02:37] <VSpike> shad_yh: "mkdir blahblah" you mean?
[02:38] <shad_yh> yes
[02:38] <VSpike> dwidmann: it fails when it tries to install grub on the disk
[02:38] <shad_yh> oh
[02:38] <shad_yh> so i can use it to make directory in home?
[02:39] <newtokubuntu> hey can somone tell me how to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2? thanks!
[02:39] <dwidmann> VSpike: well then, any errors with that?
[02:39] <VSpike> dwidmann: hmm maybe I don't get you :)
[02:39] <dwidmann> VSpike: don't worry, I never got me either
[02:40] <VSpike> dwidmann: there's a lot of error chat in the log, there doesn't seem to be one key error message if you know what i mean.  I was just thinking, I really need to save that log :/
[02:40] <VSpike> Such a PITA as it takes so long to get to that point and of course the box is unusable during that time
[02:40] <newtokubuntu> how can i install this lib?   "Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed."
[02:40] <newtokubuntu> is my error message
[02:40] <l_r> it's annoying that feisty still does not let the user setup wireless cards with wpa-psk by the default network manager
[02:41] <newtokubuntu> Yea. ANd wireless sucks in fiesty
[02:41] <newtokubuntu> IM using it now. BAH
[02:41] <l_r> i would have tolerated this if we were back in 6.04. but not these days
[02:41] <newtokubuntu> > I still gota find a fix on how to get mine up.
[02:41] <dwidmann> VSpike: hard to say what it could be .. one thing you can try, though it may be extreme, would be to rewrite the drives partition table, or something like that
[02:42] <dwidmann> maybe then grub would like it, hard to say
[02:42] <l_r> wep is obsolete, wasn't this clear to the developers?
[02:43] <vecina> how do you make kubuntu automount usb things?
[02:43] <dwidmann> vecina: it should already ... does for mine
[02:43] <vecina> dwidmann: I have to do it manually :(
[02:43] <newtokubuntu> did it work?
[02:44] <VSpike> dwidmann: can't really - one of the partitions has needed data, and more than I can back up elsewhere
[02:44] <dwidmann> vecina, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[02:44] <vecina> dwidmann: Feisty, new install
[02:44] <newtokubuntu> anyone know how to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[02:44] <dwidmann> VSpike: Yeah, I know what you mean .. If I were to need to back up my LVM or wipe it for some reason or another I'd be SOL
[02:46] <vecina> I used to run edgy and it automounted... is it because my HD is a sata and is being read as sda?
[02:46] <VSpike> newtokubuntu: Isn't libstdc++2.10 incredibly old?
[02:47] <newtokubuntu> im trying to install nxserver/client
[02:47] <VSpike> newtokubuntu:  Oh no it's there... just do "aptitude search stdc++"
[02:47] <VSpike> sudo aptitude install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[02:47] <newtokubuntu> u rock:)
[02:48] <VSpike> aw thx
[02:49] <dwidmann> vecina: sata is supposed to be sda
[02:49] <vecina> dwidmann: Well thats good to know. then i wonder why my external HD isnt mounting on its own...
[02:49] <vecina> Id expect its two partitions to mount as sda3 and sda4
[02:49] <dwidmann> is it?
[02:50] <dwidmann> if there's somewhere you can change that, do so ... perhaps make it sdb3/4 and see if it works then (It very well may not though, hard to say)
[02:50] <ubuntu> &join ubuntu
[02:50] <Otrayo> vecina, run fdisk /dev/sda to check your partitions
[02:50] <ubuntu> &join #ubuntu
[02:51] <vecina> "Unable to open /dev/sda"
[02:52] <vecina> *confused*
[02:53] <dwidmann> vecina, use sudo
[02:53] <kinp> I need help
[02:53] <kinp> How do I reset X??
[02:53] <dwidmann> kinp: we get that a lot in here :P
[02:54] <dwidmann> kinp: logout, there's a restart x option in kdm
[02:54] <vecina> dwidmann: not complaining
[02:54] <kinp> I can't enter kdm.
[02:54] <kinp> X is broke
[02:54] <dwidmann> ah
[02:54] <dwidmann> you mean reconfigure x then?
[02:54] <dwidmann> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[02:55] <Jucato> !xconfig
[02:55] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:56] <blenheim> !FixRes
[02:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:56] <kinp> How do I restars from terminal??
[02:57] <blenheim> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[02:57] <dwidmann> kinp: restart the whole system? sudo reboot
[02:57] <VSpike> kinp: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:57] <VSpike> lotsa ways :)
[02:57] <kinp> Only need one.
[02:58] <dusty-work> Does anyone here run linux on the laptop: HP Compaq NX6325 ?
[02:58] <dwidmann> VSpike: sudo reboot is just a shortcut to shutdown -r now if I remember right
[02:58] <kinp> ok
[02:58] <kinp> but sudo reboot worx.
[02:59] <dwidmann> certainly does
[02:59] <kinp> Thanks X worx again.
[02:59] <dwidmann> no problem
[03:00] <kinp> Is it any network managers (wireless) that is better than knetworkmanager?
[03:01] <thomax> hi, does anyone over here knows a good aplication to resize ogg/theora video files?
[03:01] <dwidmann> thomax: oggenc? transcode? sound-konverter?
[03:02] <dwidmann> wait, I missed the theora part
[03:02] <dwidmann> transcode will do though
[03:02] <thomax> I need something more easy than transcode
[03:02] <dwidmann> complicated as it may be
[03:02] <thomax> :)
[03:02] <thomax> thats the problem :p
[03:02] <thomax> there must be an easyer way
[03:03] <dwidmann> Hmm, I wonder if kmencoder can do it
[03:03] <thomax> someone knows a good frond end
[03:03] <thomax> i'll try kmencoder
[03:03] <dwidmann> oddly enough, I don't see it in the feisty repo
[03:03] <dwidmann> !info kmencoder edgy
[03:03] <ubotu> Package kmencoder does not exist in edgy
[03:03] <dwidmann> Hmmm, maybe it wasn't in the repos to begin with
[03:04] <thomax> i'll try kde-apps
[03:04] <dwidmann> it's definitely on th ere
[03:04] <BluesKaj> thomax , you can try tovid, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Metagui
[03:05] <thomax> ok
[03:05] <thomax> thanx for the info y'all
[03:08] <jbkjb> question please: how does one unistall a wine installed app?
[03:08] <jbkjb> uninstall..
[03:08] <thomax> using the windows uninstallation wizzard thruogh wine
[03:09] <jbkjb> ok so how is that envoked
[03:09] <newtokubuntu> anyone know how hard it is to get beryl working with fiesty?
[03:10] <thomax> If you go into your kmenu you have a wine menu, and normally with every app you have an uninstall wizzard delivered
[03:10] <Kubuntu> How do I get the nvida driver without braeking x??
[03:12] <creadorcreativo> Kubuntu: use envy: http://tinyurl.com/2tgu4n
[03:12] <jbkjb> ok but i cant see/find the wine menu - so no unistall app
[03:12] <Kubuntu> What is envy??
[03:15] <Kubuntu> Sudo apt-get wine
[03:16] <RedShift> hey all, kubuntu ships with a nice KDE theme, where can I get to use it in another distro?
[03:18] <Kubuntu> Envy wont run, how else can I install the NVIDA drivers (without the risk of breaking x)?
[03:21] <jbkjb> Sudo apt-get wine = E: Invalid operation wine
[03:22] <SniperBeamer> apt-get install wine
[03:22] <_4strO> jbkjb: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:23] <Tm_T> Tm_Konvi: mooh
[03:23] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: use  the nvidia-glx (or nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy), then run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:24] <jbkjb> ok moment - i'm trying it
[03:26] <Kubuntu> How do I know witch one??
[03:27] <Tm_T> Kubuntu: what version of nvidia you have?
[03:27] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: depends on what model of nvidia card you have, if it's a geforce 4 or older use nvidia-glx, if it's newer use nvidia-glx-new, if it's quite a bit older still, use the legacy
[03:27] <jbkjb> ok i have installed it (again) so should tehr be a wine icon in kmenu : sudo apt-get install wine
[03:27] <jbkjb> there
[03:27] <Kubuntu> NVIDA GEForce fx 5500
[03:28] <Kubuntu> Witch one?
[03:28] <RedShift> Kubuntu: those work with the latest nvidia drivers
[03:28] <Kubuntu> NVIDA GEForce FX 5500, witch one should I use?
[03:28] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:29] <simoux> hi
[03:29] <simoux> deutsch
[03:29] <dwidmann> simoux: hi
[03:29] <simoux> i habe a pb
[03:30] <simoux> wintv-hvr-1300 unter kubuntu
[03:31] <RedShift> simoux: a pb? a point blank? a punk buster? a prolific bi-fetishist?
[03:31] <simoux> problem
[03:31] <dwidmann> RedShift: pb = problem ... I'm betting
[03:31] <Kubuntu> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig wont break x??
[03:32] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: well, it *shouldn't* break x
[03:32] <Kubuntu> And if it does what is the command to fix it?
[03:32] <dwidmann> Kubuntu, if it does, restore the backed up /etc/xorg.conf
[03:32] <Kubuntu> To recongiguer x?
[03:32] <Kubuntu> ok
[03:32] <dwidmann> oops
[03:33] <dwidmann> meant to say /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...... too late to mention that now
[03:33] <Otrayo> easiest way to fix a broken x is to type random stuff all over the conf file and then restart the server
[03:34] <simoux> nvidia-glx.new include nvidia-xcong and nvidia-settings
[03:34] <Kubuntu> I don't think it worked, xdidn't break!
[03:34] <Otrayo> it will then (try) fix it for you
[03:34] <dwidmann> simoux: yes, it does
[03:34] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: when starting X, did you see the nvidia logo?
[03:34] <Kubuntu> Yes
[03:34] <dwidmann> then it worked
[03:34] <Kubuntu> But before it has always broke x.
[03:34] <simoux> what is your pb
[03:35] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: well, don't complain about things working :P
[03:35] <Otrayo> anyone successfully upgraded to feisty using the update tool?
[03:35] <simoux> i had just 1024x780
[03:35] <Kubuntu> It worx in games tooo.
[03:35] <Kubuntu> I have.
[03:35] <Kubuntu> But the sound still sounds like shit.
[03:35] <dwidmann> I did it during its earlier stages with quite a bit of failure, but it's been updated quite a bit since the
[03:35] <dwidmann> *n
[03:35] <simoux> man add  mit editor 1280x1024
[03:36] <dwidmann> Kubuntu: the sound is at the mercy of the sound card drivers, the mixer settings, the sound card, and the speakers
[03:36] <Otrayo> Kubuntu: I keep getting errors with the security mirrors
[03:36] <dwidmann> (and not the graphics card)
[03:37] <simoux> how can i get my wintv working ubter kubuntu
[03:37] <simoux> tv carte
[03:37] <Kubuntu> But I do not use my sound car (usb speakers), I can't mute them, how can I decide withc thingi should control sound?
[03:37] <dusty-work> Hey guys I Have a real strange issue with kubuntu on my laptop.  When I restart the laptop (either command console -> reboot command OR via the k menu and restart) when it powers back up, it checks the disks as if it has been hard rebooted - the wrong way - and when i go back into x and start a browser it says restore session or start new one (so its like the computer is being shut off badly) any ideas why the laptop is a hp
[03:37] <dusty-work> compaq nx6325?
[03:38] <Kubuntu> How do you write red?
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> r-e-d
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> very simple
[03:38] <Kubuntu> r-e-d Hello
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> in fact, you already did it
[03:39] <Kubuntu> didn't work
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[03:39] <cy_`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17799/ .. i get that error when using the "vesa" driver on the feisty kubuntu release.. but it gives me that error.. what might be wrong ?
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, red messages
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> are they messages with your nick in them>?
[03:42] <dusty-work> Hey guys I Have a real strange issue with kubuntu on my laptop.  When I restart the laptop (either command console -> reboot command OR via the k menu and restart) when it powers back up, it checks the disks as if it has been hard rebooted - the wrong way - and when i go back into x and start a browser it says restore session or start new one (so its like the computer is being shut off badly) any ideas why the laptop is a hp
[03:42] <dusty-work> compaq nx6325?
[03:44] <kalorin> well, the laptop is a hp because they made it
[03:44] <kalorin> ;)
[03:45] <kalorin> haven't tried kubuntu on a laptop though
[03:45] <Otrayo> i've got kubuntu on my laptop
[03:45] <Otrayo> its a thinkpad though, so it works like a charm
[03:46] <icecruncher> i need a small fast music player. any suggestions?
[03:46] <_4strO> xmms
[03:48] <dwidmann> icecruncher: music123
[03:48] <dwidmann> or was it 321?
[03:48] <kalorin> 213?
[03:48] <kalorin> :)
[03:48] <dwidmann> my first thought was right
[03:48] <kalorin> <--- helpful
[03:48] <_4strO> dwidmann: mpeg123 i think
[03:49] <dwidmann> _4strO: music123 will play both mp3 and ogg and perhaps others
[03:49] <kalorin> I just use VLC
[03:49] <_4strO> didn't know it were an music123 appliocation
[03:49] <dwidmann> kalorin: and I use amarok ... but hey, the guy said small & light
[03:49] <kalorin> it's fast enough and handles just about anything you throw at it
[03:49] <kalorin> sure
[03:50] <kalorin> amarok seems to be nice enough
[03:50] <Otrayo> i'd go with xmms
[03:50] <dwidmann> a shell app seems to be as light as you can go usually
[03:50] <icecruncher> sweet thanks
[03:50] <kalorin> I let it catalog my stuff and it made a big mess
[03:51] <dwidmann> kalorin: what kind?
[03:51] <dwidmann> (of mess)
[03:51] <kalorin> oh just the tagging and stuff
[03:51] <kalorin> had things all over
[03:51] <dwidmann> odd, when was this?
[03:51] <kalorin> the music wasn't all consistently tagged because some of it was quite old
[03:51] <dwidmann> ah
[03:52] <kalorin> it did what it could well enough I guess
[03:52] <dwidmann> so it didn't like idv2 tags or something like that?
[03:53] <dwidmann> be right back
[03:54] <kalorin> something odd
[03:54] <kalorin> just ended up with a lot of stuff filed oddly
[03:54] <dwidmann> oh no, I think the caffeine is wearing off :\
[03:55] <Greenery> how do i remove those wine apps like wine notepad regedit and all?
[03:57] <boyee> hi,all
[03:57] <ubuntu> konqueror is broken i keep getting this error: An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=feisty&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:
[03:58] <boyee> How to change the grub picture at the ubuntu's booting?
[03:58] <ubuntu> I am chatting with the cd right now so it is not the internet connection
[03:58] <Otrayo> ubuntu: maybe your proxy settings?
[03:58] <ubuntu> don't need proxy
[03:59] <Jucato> !grubsplash
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <Jucato> bah
[03:59] <ubuntu> weird thing is i installed feisty via adept on my desktop and it is running fine
[04:00] <Jucato> boyee: take a look into the packages grub-splashimages and kubuntu-grub-splashimages
[04:00] <Jucato> boyee: and this one: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[04:06] <tony__> does anyone know a way to decrease konqueror's thumbnail quality?
[04:14] <linex> Hi
[04:14] <linex> My HD is serial ata. How do I check if the dma is on ? Do I use hdparm also ?
[04:15] <ubuntu> I am sorry but what do you mean grub splash image.  Is this the screen that shows the kernels or are you talking about the boot splash?
[04:15] <Jucato> ubuntu: grubsplash = image that you see with the GRUB menu
[04:16] <ubuntu> linex> sudo kate hdparm.conf
[04:16] <Jucato> bootsplash = the (usually animated) image you see when you boot into the kernel
[04:18] <ubuntu> linex> then scroll down to the examples and find the one that says /dev/hda blah blah and change it to sda(#) and uncomment all the lines pertaining to that drive.
[04:18] <kalorin> bah
[04:18] <kalorin> remove splash from the boot options and boot like a real man
[04:18] <kalorin> ;)
[04:18] <Jucato> you're talking about bootsplash, not grub splash
[04:18] <ubuntu> < jucato> Ah I thought so, sorry don't know
[04:19] <linex> thanks ubuntu
[04:21] <ubuntu> linex>  http://getoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_use_hdparm_to_improve_ide_device_performanc
[04:21] <ubuntu> I have sata also this link helped alot
[04:22] <blenheim> Shit
[04:22] <blenheim> phone broken...
[04:23] <blenheim> Screen cracked...
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[04:23] <linex> thanks for the link
[04:24] <linex> you miss an n but I know what you mean
[04:26] <boyee> hi,all
[04:26] <mueslix> where is my jriddell?
[04:27] <Riddell> mueslix: hmm?
[04:27] <mueslix> Riddell: ah, you lost the j? :)
[04:27] <Riddell> I never had one
[04:27] <boyee> I install the nvidia driver for my VGA successfully,But I must change the resolution every time when I login and set it to 1280x800.How to fix this?
[04:28] <boyee> help me,Please!
[04:28] <mueslix> Riddell: heh, sorry. i've been looking for you a couple of days, just under the wrong name i recon :)
[04:28] <dwidmann> boyee: try using the nvidia-settings utility, be sure to click "save x config" before exiting
[04:28] <dwidmann> oh, and you'll need to be running it with kdesu
[04:28] <mueslix> Riddell: i noticed the kolab packages in feisty are broken
[04:28] <mueslix> Riddell: they still depend on php4, which doesn't exist anymore.
[04:28] <boyee> I have save it! but it don't works!
[04:29] <kalorin> boyee remember that you're not root or sudo'ing the nvidia config so you have to save the new config someplace else then manually replace it
[04:29] <mueslix> Riddell: a bug report exists, i'm just wondering if you know anything about it, if someone's taking care of it or if help is needed
[04:29] <dominik_> hello world !!!
[04:29] <kalorin> that's the safer way as far as I'm concerned
[04:30] <dwidmann> kalorin: I don't see anything "unsafe" about doing it directly, it makes a backup afterall
[04:30] <kalorin> <--- untrusting :)
[04:30] <sean> Does anybody know if there is a way to get firefox to work with kde wallet?
[04:30] <kalorin> and I usually name my backups of the xorg file for what was or wasn't working when I did it
[04:31] <dominik_> hello guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me. Am trying to update my system using the apt-get command, but nothing happens...it just hangs without downloading any updates
[04:31] <dwidmann> kalorin: me too actually ... I have xorg.conf.vesa and xorg.conf.nvidia, and well, that's about it
[04:31] <sean> are you connected to your network?
[04:33] <dominik_> here is the messge that am getting: 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to wxpython.wxcommunity.com
[04:33] <sean> but you don't connect?
[04:33] <dominik_> no, it just hangs there or ages
[04:34] <dominik_> no, it just hangs there for ages
[04:34] <Riddell> mueslix: I don't know of anyone in ubuntu who touches the kolab packages, it's mostly too late for changing stuff in feisty
[04:34] <sean> did it ever work?
[04:34] <sean> the network that is.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> sean: dont know of one
[04:35] <dominik_> yes, it use to update itself, when I come to the computer, I see the update icon on the system tray informing me of new updates...
[04:35] <sean> thanks for the info Hobbsee
[04:35] <dominik_> ...but for some reason, it has stopped
[04:36] <dominik_> so, that's why I wanted to update it manually
[04:36] <sean> well, not quite sure what is wrong, but you can use the alternate install cd and go into recovery mode
[04:37] <sean> that should get your drivers working so you can re-install your network stuff again
[04:37] <sean> it will pop you into a terminal that will give you access to apt-get or even aptitude if you want
[04:38] <dominik_> thanks sean
[04:38] <sean> no prob
[04:38] <dominik_> hey sean, do i have to put the CD in the computer and reboot or what?
[04:39] <sean> yeah
[04:39] <sean> it needs to be an iso image on the cd to work though
[04:41] <dominik_> hmm, am not sure if this one is an ISO image though, it's one of those free CDs I ordered from Ubuntu company
[04:42] <Hobbsee> dominik_: it'll be an iso, then.
[04:42] <dominik_> cool Hobbsee
[04:43] <dominik_> let me run the CD and let you guys know if it works..
[04:49] <mueslix> Riddell: how come too late for feisty? someone probably just needs to fix the depandancies of the package, i reckon? that'd surely be worth it, wouldn't it?
[04:50] <Riddell> mueslix: sure, if someone is willing to do the patch and go through the stable release updates process https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StableReleaseUpdates
[04:51] <mueslix> Riddell: thanks, i'll have a look
[04:54] <binaryflow> I've been running feisty fawn beta on a workstation at home.  Now that the full release is here do I need to upgrade?  It looks like the beta is using the same sources.list that the full release is.
[04:54] <binaryflow> Am I ok or do I need to do anything?
[04:54] <crimsun> you will need to upgrade
[04:54] <Shifty> yep
[04:55] <binaryflow> Ok.
[04:55] <binaryflow> Should I use the cd or updated sources.list manually?
[04:55] <binaryflow> update
[04:55] <Shifty> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286599
[04:55] <Jucato> binaryflow: just dist-upgrade normally
[04:56] <Jucato> nothing to change.
[04:56] <binaryflow> Ok, thanks.
[04:56] <Shifty> Does anyone know how to tell what name your Serial Port is given (ie; ttyS0, etc)?
[04:56] <Shifty> I've got to connect to some legacy storage arrays
[04:57] <Shifty> and they of course use the serial port for managment
[04:57] <newtokubuntu> anyone gotten beryl working on fiesty?
[04:57] <Shifty> I've gotten it to work, but it crashes often
[04:57] <newtokubuntu> really?
[04:57] <newtokubuntu> booooo
[04:57] <Shifty> Fairly unstable at this point, for me anyway.
[04:58] <newtokubuntu> yea im debating on trying it
[04:58] <Shifty> Yeah, it looks nice when it works
[04:58] <SkyblastAtWork> same here pretty much
[04:58] <newtokubuntu> My edgy install had it working great
[04:58] <newtokubuntu> Never crashed once i got it working with ALGIX
[04:58] <SkyblastAtWork> I don't know why they call 0.2.0 "stable"
[04:58] <Shifty> give it a shot. Just make sure you specifiy in the Beryl manager KDE as the falback window manager
[04:58] <SkyblastAtWork> I've tried it in several different configurations... It's not stable. At all.
[04:59] <newtokubuntu> yea
[04:59] <newtokubuntu> if u dont specifiy that
[04:59] <newtokubuntu> your effed basicly
[04:59] <mueslix> SkyblastAtWork: stable doesn't refer to being completely stable and unbreakable
[04:59] <mueslix> SkyblastAtWork: it's just not a development
[04:59] <mueslix> -release
[04:59] <Shifty> well you aren't effed, but you'll have to reboot.
[04:59] <newtokubuntu> i know
[04:59] <newtokubuntu> thats what i mean.
[05:00] <Shifty> ha, right.
[05:00] <newtokubuntu> I dont like rebootng
[05:00] <newtokubuntu> heh
[05:00] <SkyblastAtWork> It seems to work best with nvidia cards aiglx.. but even then.. pretty flaky if you make it mad
[05:00] <newtokubuntu> algix is awsome. I saw like 90x improvment over glx
[05:00] <Shifty> I was also told NOT to use the xorg ATI drivers if you have an ATI card.
[05:01] <SkyblastAtWork> Doesn't really matter to me though. I prefer a snappy desktop above all else. I just keep beryl on for all my lamer friends who think Linux is "like DOS or something" hehe
[05:02] <Shifty> Yeah I had a co-worker ask "why I was using that horrible O/S"
[05:03] <Shifty> I wasn't sure where to start with him on that one, since most of the things I would explain were WAY over his head
[05:03] <SkyblastAtWork> hehe
[05:03] <SkyblastAtWork> I'm really pragmatic about it. Most people don't care enough to listen. If that binary blob from Redmond works for them, go for it.
[05:03] <newtokubuntu> i like the cool burn effects thats it :)
[05:04] <SkyblastAtWork> If that overpriced ultra proprietary blob in a pretty box from California works for them, just as good. Doesn't hurt me any.
[05:04] <andreas_> hi
[05:04] <Shifty> I just wanted something stable, powerful, and customizable
[05:04] <andreas_> speak german?
[05:04] <Shifty> Sorry I don't speak german.
[05:04] <SkyblastAtWork> !de
[05:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:04] <andreas_> okay
[05:05] <andreas_> thx
[05:05] <andreas_> #ubuntu
[05:05] <andreas_> #ubuntu-de
[05:05] <Shifty> I should learn though, I'm going over ther in july!
[05:05] <mueslix> Shifty: you won't need it
[05:05] <Shifty> Oh ok.
[05:06] <mueslix> Shifty: most people will be able to understand you just fine
[05:06] <Shifty> I was told by my friend in the UK that the beer fest we're going to, hardly anyone speaks english.
[05:06] <Shifty> Cool.
[05:06] <andreas_> join #kubuntu-de
[05:06] <andreas_> join kubuntu-de
[05:06] <mueslix> Shifty: heh, well... beer fests... most people don't speak any language there
[05:06] <mueslix> beer is the language
[05:06] <Shifty> fantastic
[05:07] <Tm_T> andreas_: /join #kubuntu-de ;)
[05:07] <andreas_> thx ^
[05:07] <mueslix> Shifty: which festival you're going to?
[05:07] <andreas_> my first time in irc ^
[05:07] <gemidjy> kubuntu.org down ?
[05:08] <andreas_> hi
[05:08] <bobstro> andreas_: run away!
[05:08] <andreas_> speak german?
[05:08] <bobstro> ich? ein bischen.
[05:08] <Shifty> my friend calls it the Weisenfest?
[05:08] <Shifty> It starts the weekend of July 4th I believe
[05:10] <Shifty> I want to say this is the website  he sent me  http://www.waldundwiesenfest.at/
[05:13] <ubuntu> How do I decide the default browser??
[05:14] <thomax> in kcontrol
[05:14] <_4strO> ubuntu > system settings / default application
[05:15] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[05:15] <Yorokobi> ubuntuHo, 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser' also works.
[05:15] <ubuntuHo> Can I make the loin like in Win xp?
[05:15] <bobstro> loin?
[05:16] <Shifty> I think he means "login
[05:16] <CrazyLazy> Can I make the login look like in win xp?
[05:16] <Shifty> System Settings>splash screen
[05:16] <Shifty> Choose the Redmond option.
[05:17] <CrazyLazy> Would I then not have to write my login name?
[05:17] <Shifty> Oh, you mean login automatically
[05:17] <Shifty> with no username and password
[05:18] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you areound?
[05:18] <Shifty> System Settings>Advanced Tab> Session Manager
[05:18] <Shifty> I believe
[05:18] <CrazyLazy> No, no username (you click your username), but still have to write the password.
[05:18] <Shifty> Sorry, Login Manager
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> anybody else have an ati card>
[05:19] <Shifty> I do
[05:19] <Shifty> x300 on my laptop
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> any problem with it in fiesty?
[05:19] <Shifty> none
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> are you using the fglrx driver?
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> that was automatically installed?
[05:20] <Shifty> no
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> ah...ok
[05:20] <Shifty> That was no recommended if you want to use beryl
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> ATI and Fiesty have this problem with loggin out
[05:20] <Shifty> What's going on?
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> Shifty: oh yeah...the x300 has good OSS driver support
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> what that should be is "fglrx and fiesty have log out problems"
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> when you try to log out, the x server lock, and freezes the computer
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> * locks
[05:21] <CrazyLazy> Feisty do have logout problems.
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> but it works fine with the OS driver (I want 3d tho..)
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> and my chip isn't supported by the OSS drivers
[05:23] <Shifty> I've used beryl without the X.org fglrx drivers.
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> thats why I wanted BluesKaj, he was having the same problems.
[05:23] <pichi_> hello to all
[05:23] <Shifty> ah ok
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> Shifty: yeah... but your card is supported by open source drivers
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> hello pichi_
[05:24] <BluesKaj> sorry guys , I was away doing some chores
[05:24] <nosrednaekim> yo BluesKaj, i'v been doing some more testing...
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> I can now log out and log back in after doing a ctrl+alt+bckspce, but when I do log back in, anything having to do with 3d accel crashes the computer
[05:25] <Shifty> Right, looks like I'm not much help, sorry.
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> Shifty: thanks anyway
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: this is a definate bug, i'm going to report it.
[05:26] <Shifty> sure thing. Hopefully you can get it worked out.
[05:26] <BluesKaj> well, the proprietary driver is the one that does DRI , but not beryl...there is a way to have both,but I can't recall the setup or the tutorial to make it work
[05:27] <Shifty> I switched from Vista to Kubuntu a week ago on my work laptop here. So far no real complaints
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> Shifty: is it noticably faster?
[05:27] <BluesKaj> gonna do some searching ...BB in 5
[05:27] <_4str1> BluesKaj: you have to go on XGL
[05:27] <Shifty> Oh yeah. Performance is stellar for me in Kubuntu.
[05:28] <Shifty> That's why I switched, really. I didn't want XP, and Vista was a resource hog.
[05:29] <MotorCityMadMan> !kde
[05:29] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> Shifty: are you doing x86_64?
[05:30] <_4str1> 
[05:30] <_4str1> you can have less although linux, but it is more expensive
[05:30] <_4str1> ^^
[05:30] <Shifty> No, it's a Dell D810 laptop with a 1.7Ghz Pentium M and 1gb RAM
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> and it came with vista? ouch.. that probably ran slow
[05:31] <Shifty> No, we had it as part of an MSDN
[05:32] <Shifty> so I put it on and it ran ok.
[05:32] <Shifty> but, for whatever reason it just sucked down the RAM and was paging too much.
[05:32] <VSpike> dwidmann: If you're still here, the error log is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17823/
[05:32] <Shifty> The visuals and small improvements alone weren't enough to keep it on there.
[05:33] <VSpike> To anyone else that can help, that's Kubuntu 7.04 failing to install at the point where it tries to set up grub
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM
[05:33] <VSpike> Any help much appreciated
[05:34] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: latest radeon linux driverhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[05:34] <BluesKaj> oops http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[05:34] <boyee> Can we install adobereader using the apt-get?
[05:34] <boyee> Can we install adobereader using the apt-get?
[05:34] <dasnipa> boyee: yeah... its in the mediabuntu repo
[05:34] <MotorCityMadMan> !akregator
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about akregator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <boyee> sudo apt-get install adobereader,I get none.
[05:35] <CaseyOmah> Is there a way to write a script (sh or otherwise) that will restart KTorrent on crash?
[05:35] <MotorCityMadMan> !rss
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <dasnipa> boyee: you dont have the mediabuntu repo... google it
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: what was on there?
[05:36] <dasnipa> boyee: plus i dont know that the pacakge is called adobe reader do apt-cache search adobe reader
[05:36] <Shifty> boyee, Can download the Adobe Reader from the Adobe website. What's how I got it
[05:36] <Shifty> That's how I got it
[05:36] <_4str1> !codecs | boyee
[05:36] <ubotu> boyee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <CaseyOmah> Win2fs is always mounting my ext3 partitions in ro mode.
[05:37] <CrazyLazy> any good free FPS for Linux?
[05:37] <CaseyOmah> I'm pretty sure the journal is empty.
[05:39] <dwidmann> someone called ..... hmmm, VSpike?
[05:39] <VSpike> dwidmann: si, barone
[05:39] <CrazyLazy> Is there any FPS for linux?
[05:39] <cuco> doom1
[05:39] <cuco> doom2
[05:39] <_4strO> CrazyLazy: cube
[05:39] <cuco> ... doom3 :)
[05:39] <CrazyLazy> Are they free?
[05:39] <VSpike> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17823/
[05:39] <cuco> yes
[05:39] <_4strO> CrazyLazy: cube is
[05:40] <CaseyOmah> cuco: There's linux ports for doom1/2/3?
[05:40] <cuco> apt-get install
[05:40] <_4strO> CrazyLazy: and you have a second stage
[05:40] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: it's the latest Radeo Linux proprietary driver
[05:40] <BluesKaj> Radeon
[05:40] <cuco> doom3 is not gpl yet. i assume soon it will
[05:40] <_4strO> CrazyLazy: sudo apy-get install openarena
[05:40] <dwidmann> VSpike: looks like you've definitely uncovered a bug, take that same error output and create a bug report on http://launchpad.net
[05:40] <CrazyLazy> sudo: apy-get: command not found
[05:40] <CrazyLazy> sudo: apy-get: command not found
[05:41] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: apt-get
[05:41] <cuco> i am running the livecd of 7.04, i assume that by running it intel wide screen should be supported out of the box. correct?
[05:42] <_4strO> CrazyLazy: know i understand your nickname :p
[05:44] <VSpike> dwidmann: thx .. will do.  Seriously annoying!
[05:44] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: sorry, I tried some stuff...
[05:44] <VSpike> I'm wondering if I manage to install grub by hand, whether the system set-up will be complete
[05:44] <CrazyLazy> I want people to do all the hard work for me, free, like Linux.
[05:44] <VSpike> I'd guess installing grub must be one of the last things it does, but what else might I miss out?
[05:45] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: Linux is freeware, support is not encluded in most freeware packages, so hard work is relocated to the user. Not support.
[05:45] <nosrednaeki1> VSpike: you might want to try the alternate installer, especcially if you have RAID or complicated HD arrangements
[05:45] <CrazyLazy> !past
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <CrazyLazy> !paste
[05:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: by applying that fix from the gentoo wiki, I can log out
[05:46] <VSpike> nosrednaeki: It's probably worth a go, although my system is very boring.  I even removed my primary PATA disk so it was just a single SATA drive on an NF4 board.
[05:46] <CrazyLazy> Why does the Konsole say this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17828/??
[05:46] <CrazyLazy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17828/
[05:46] <nosrednaeki1> but glx stuff is still all messed up
[05:47] <nosrednaeki1> VSpike: hmm..
[05:47] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: Read line 51.
[05:48] <BluesKaj> nosrednaeki , you mean the linux 3finger salute ? :)
[05:48] <nosrednaeki1> yeah.. try that before trying to install manully
[05:48] <CrazyLazy> Why would I remove them??
[05:48] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: huh?
[05:48] <CaseyOmah> They are unreferenced.
[05:48] <CrazyLazy> But many of them is important.
[05:49] <CrazyLazy> Like gimp-data, I like gimp. Then I shouldn't remove it.
[05:49] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: Are you sure you don't have upgraded packages for them?
[05:49] <CrazyLazy> Or??
[05:49] <BluesKaj> nosrednaeki ctrl,alt,backspace
[05:49] <CrazyLazy> No I'm not sure.
[05:50] <CrazyLazy> How can I check?
[05:51] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: haha no.... I mean this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM
[05:51] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: I'm basically a newbie, so I don't know.
[05:51] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239
[05:52] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: But I've found that apt-get hasn't removed things from my active apps before.
[05:52] <VSpike> To install grub by hand in the LiveCD, would I want to do something like: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/target /dev/hda
[05:53] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: just out of curiosity, do you have an AMD system?
[05:53] <CaseyOmah> CrazyLazy: What I'd do is remember the pastebin URL and run the autoremove, if things break, look at the pastebin and reinstall.
[05:55] <BluesKaj> yes nosrednaeki,  AMD64 Compaq Presario venice 3200+ CPU , but just have the onboard graphics
[05:55] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: a Xpress 200m?
[05:56] <nosrednaeki1> same here, cept a acer 5050, turion x2, Xpress 1100
[05:56] <BluesKaj> no the Radeon RS480/200g
[05:56] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: same thing... RS480 is the graphics chip
[05:57] <BluesKaj> xpress200G
[05:57] <nosrednaeki1> seems that this only affects AMD computers http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239
[05:58] <nosrednaeki1> yeah... the Xpress1100 is just a xpress200 with support for X2's
[05:58] <Kubuntu> Can I install google earth by using sudo apt.get install?
[05:58] <nosrednaeki1> Kubuntu: I don't think so
[05:58] <nosrednaeki1> unless you find a repository
[05:58] <BluesKaj> no, you have to enable backports ...i think
[05:58] <nosrednaeki1> GOOGLE has ubuntu packages though
[05:58] <BluesKaj> or DL it from the site
[05:59] <BluesKaj> yeah
[05:59] <BluesKaj> ok , BRB
[05:59] <nosrednaeki1> Any luck.
[05:59] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj:
[06:00] <Kubuntu> How do I install bin files?
[06:00] <CaseyOmah> Kubuntu: ./filename.bin from a console.
[06:00] <VSpike> Kubuntu: normally "chmod 755 something.bin && ./something.bin"
[06:01] <VSpike> where does grub.conf normally hang out?
[06:01] <ale84> I all
[06:01] <CaseyOmah> VSpike: /boot/grub/ ... I think.
[06:01] <nosrednaeki1> VSpike: /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:02] <ale84> sorry I can't install kbuntu , cause it doesn't reconize my sata hdd what I can do ?? in advance thanks
[06:02] <CaseyOmah> ale84: Doesn't recognize on LiveCd?
[06:03] <ale84> even  while is booting from live cd it take a log time ... then when I try to install doesn't reconize my hhd
[06:03] <ale84> it say that is impossble to install no hhd avaible
[06:03] <UKESN|Javax> its impossible to install from livecd for me
[06:03] <dromer> !burn
[06:03] <UKESN|Javax> even though ive got 1024 mb RAM
[06:03] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:04] <UKESN|Javax> so i just installed dapper
[06:04] <UKESN|Javax> updated to edgy, then updated to feisty
[06:04] <UKESN|Javax> and boom hey presto
[06:04] <CaseyOmah> UKESN|Javax: Upgrade path.
[06:05] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: open GL works on first login.
[06:05] <ale84> CaseyOmah I have a sony vaio vgn a517b, any chace ??
[06:06] <nosrednaeki1> I'm going to go log  out and then back in... BRB
[06:06] <animimotus> hi
[06:06] <CaseyOmah> ale84: I've never had an issue installing from any of the LiveCDs, UKESN|Javax may have an idea that would work for you.
[06:06] <kalorin> CaseyOmah: you should give it a try with an ATI video card ;)
[06:07] <CaseyOmah> kalorin: I'm running nv, I think...
[06:07] <CaseyOmah> I'd have to look, been a while since I played with my hardware. lol
[06:08] <animimotus> I have crash 4 times since I installed Feisty Kubuntu (a new install). Please, someone can take a look to my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17838/ and my syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17833/  ?
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: everything is working!!
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> and i'm sure of it this time!
[06:09] <CaseyOmah> nosrednaekim: Congrats.
[06:09] <ale84> I don't understand if linux doesn't support my laptop myabe is better that I give up ....
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> ale84: you could always try another distro
[06:10] <CaseyOmah> ale84: There are issues with some installers, it's not that the OS doesn't support the hardware.
[06:10] <ale84> nosrednaekim I tried net bsd debian ubuntu kbuntu so far
[06:10] <SmL9> is it possible to suspend a live session?
[06:10] <Squier_> Salut
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> CaseyOmah: thank you... now I just have to wait for BluesKaj to come back so I can tell him the solution
[06:10] <ubuntu_> Can anyone tell me about a program like GameMaker for linux?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> ale84: try an RPM based distro, like suse
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> SmL9: ussually not
[06:11] <CaseyOmah> ubuntu_: There's one for writing Sierra-style games, just check out the repos.
[06:12] <ubuntu_> What is its name?
[06:12] <ale84> nosrednaekim, I can't uderstand why I should try another distro once again
[06:12] <CaseyOmah> ubuntu_: I'd have to look, give me a sec...
[06:13] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:13] <SmL9> nosrednaekim: damn. when I try to suspend my live session it locks the session and i can't get back in, the password doesn't work anymore
[06:13] <ale84> why rpm I had the same problem with netbsd seems to be somethig wrong with my hhd
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> ale84: yeah,well, did you try googleing to see if anyone else got linux running on that model?
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> SmL9: oh it does suspend?
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> well ehre's how to fix the passwrod problem
[06:13] <ale84> nosrednaekim yes I tried already and only one person
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> ale84: and did it work for them?
[06:14] <ale84> write in a forum and no one repleid back him
[06:14] <CaseyOmah> ubuntu_: agistudio.
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> ale84: ah... oh... umm..maybe it doesn't work then..
[06:14] <CaseyOmah> ubuntu_: nagi appears to be the player.
[06:14] <ale84> nice .. =)
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> sorry.
[06:14] <Ashex> so, has anyone been crazy enough to try upgrading from dapper to feisty?
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> Ashex: thats more like saying... who has been crazy enough to go without edgy for 6 months..
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[06:15] <CaseyOmah> Ashex: You aren't supposed to upgrade skipping steps, but someone has upgraded Dapper/Edgy/Feisty I've seen mentioned
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: come in pls...
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> OH well... he's not here... bye all..
[06:16] <BluesKaj> Ashex:  i like the way you loaded that question , Feisty seems fine so far , just the digital out on my soundcard is not working but otherwise , no probs
[06:17] <CaseyOmah> nosrednaekim: I'll let him know if he shows up.
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ahh! you are here...
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> thsi is what you do BluesKaj
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> it worked for me
[06:17] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim, just setting up google earth
[06:17] <boyee> any good game in ubuntu???
[06:17] <boyee>  any good game in ubuntu???
[06:17] <CaseyOmah> boyee: Sudoku
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: so did you fix your log out problem?
[06:18] <BluesKaj> boyee:  get an xbox
[06:18] <Timsen> hi, would it be better to install the dapper LTS server version on a dual quad core board or should it be better to use feisty?
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> boyee: tremulous
[06:18] <Tm_T> boyee: no need to repeat
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> fiesty...
[06:18] <boyee> moto
[06:18] <boyee> ??
[06:18] <BluesKaj> seems ok nosrednaekim , but I'll check in a few mins
[06:18] <SmL9> nosrednaekim: Well the screen goes blank but the hd and other stuff stays on. if I move the mouse the screen comes back on
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> SmL9: ahh... so suspend really doesn't work..
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> it has to do with ramdisks and livecd.. sus[pending would be awfully messy
[06:19] <nosrednaekim> Bye all..
[06:19] <SmL9> nosrednaekim: seems not...
[06:20] <SmL9> nosrednaekim: oh well, bye then
[06:22] <Tm_T> Timsen: for desktop use, I'd recommend Feisty
[06:22] <snap> how come kbuntu wants to launch gimp everytime i start a kde session?
[06:22] <Timsen> no should be pure server
[06:23] <Tm_T> Timsen: ok, then, need long time support?
[06:24] <Timsen> in my opinion the lts version of ubuntu is more stable, but it depends on the things you want to run on it @ Tm_T
[06:24] <Tm_T> yes
[06:24] <Timsen> but i ask the question with view on the hardware support
[06:25] <tuco_> Hey 4stro :-)
[06:25] <Tm_T> Timsen: newer has broader support
[06:25] <_4strO> yop tuco_
[06:25] <tuco_> I am back sir
[06:26] <_4strO> yes did you save the file i gave you ?
[06:26] <tuco_> so we can continue with Beryl if you don't mind :-)
[06:26] <tuco_> Nah sorry
[06:27] <kristjan_> into what package does "kinfocenter" belong to?
[06:27] <myte> I've got a problem with beryl on Kubuntu Feisty KDE. I have succesfully installed drivers for my ATI Radeon 1100 card,  I tried fgl_glxgears on terminal and it shows 3d cobe with gears rolling fine on each side. I've tried to find solution to my broblem from ubuntu, kubuntu and beryl forums but i still don't get it. Beryl doesn't start and it says it's becaus there's no composite extensions, but when I enable composite extensions, th
[06:27] <myte> glxgears stop working (assuming my drivers stop working) DOes anyone know what I shouls so now? tia
[06:27] <tuco_> We need to start from scratch mate
[06:28] <_4strO> tuco_: ok
[06:28] <tuco_> Thank you
[06:28] <LjL> !find kinfocenter | kristjan_
[06:29] <LjL> kristjan_: (you can also just type "dpkg -S kinfocenter")
[06:29] <ubotu> kristjan_: File kinfocenter found in kcontrol, kde4base
[06:29] <kristjan_> LjL: the should be reported against kcontrol then? or kde4base?
[06:29] <tuco_> So have you managed to make it worked or not 4stro?
[06:30] <kristjan_> LjL: the *bug
[06:30] <LjL> kristjan_: i'd say kcontrol
[06:31] <LjL> How can i list all packages that come from a given repository URL (or component) using apt-cache or aptitude?
[06:31] <_4strO> tuco_: type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"
[06:31] <tuco_> in terminal yes?
[06:32] <snap> how come kbuntu wants to launch gimp everytime i start a kde session?
[06:32] <Tm_T> snap: do you close it?
[06:32] <_4strO> tuco_: yes
[06:32] <tuco_> done
[06:33] <LjL> How can i list all packages that come from a given repository URL (or component) using apt-cache or aptitude?
[06:33] <snap> tim_t yeah it was closed
[06:33] <Tm_T> snap: doublecheck it's not running, also doublecheck it's not mentioned in ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder
[06:33] <_4strO> tuco_: type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:33] <Tm_T> snap: if doesn't help, I'll help you to start clean session
[06:34] <tuco_> in command?
[06:34] <tuco_> done in command
[06:34] <snap> ok hang on....not used to finding process manager in kde
[06:35] <_4strO> tuco_: you have your file open right ?
[06:35] <tuco_> yes sir
[06:35] <_4strO> select all and paste this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17845/
[06:35] <tuco_> what this will do exactly?
[06:36] <Ashex> Heh
[06:36] <Ashex> I have a laptop running dapper, and I want to upgrade it to feisty
[06:36] <Ashex> But, I'm pretty sure something will break
[06:36] <_4strO> tuco_: sorry paste this one : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17847/
[06:37] <tuco_> man man ;-)
[06:37] <Ashex> so I was wondering if anyone was crazy enough to do the upgrade in one stage, as opposed to the two stage dapper to edgy edgy to feisty
[06:37] <tuco_> what should this do 4stro?
[06:37] <_4strO> tuco_: it's for use the default driver wich is necessary to run beryl
[06:38] <tuco_> you sure it is safe yeah?
[06:38] <_4strO> not really sure but we can reverse easilly
[06:38] <snap> hmm itdidnt stat this time....but i was not able to find the "process manager" can you point it out to me?
[06:39] <tuco_> otherwise I'll hunt you down dude ;-)
[06:39] <tuco_> hold I paste
[06:39] <_4strO> snap: ctrl + esc
[06:39] <LjL> how can standard Qt (or, if possible, GTK) applications be made to use the KDE global menubar?
[06:40] <snap> ahh sweet thanks
[06:40] <_4strO> ;)
[06:40] <_4strO> snap: otherwise he is in the system menu
[06:40] <snap> in gnome i have no problem finding things.....i still get a little lost in KDE
[06:40] <tuco_> done
[06:40] <dwidmann> LJL: are you sure it can be done at all?
[06:41] <_4strO> tuco_: then restart X
[06:41] <LjL> dwidmann: no, i'm not sure at all, i'd like to though :)
[06:41] <Tm_T> aww
[06:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, is there a way to download kubuntu because www.kubuntu.org is down
[06:41] <Tm_T> dwidmann: you meanie ;)
[06:41] <snap> system services?
[06:42] <Tm_T> LjL: let's assume my settings work :-P
[06:42] <_4strO> snap: not in the system settings
[06:42] <_4strO> in the "system" part of principal menu
[06:43] <snap> KSysGuard Performance Manager?
[06:43] <tuco_> done 4stro
[06:43] <_4strO> snap: yes
[06:43] <snap> alrighty then Thanx!! ;)
[06:44] <_4strO> tuco_: ok type ''glxinfo | grep render" in a console
[06:44] <CraZy675> I'm having a problem with my wireless configuration
[06:44] <CraZy675> I can see the wireless networks but cannot connect to them
[06:44] <CraZy675> it times out when trying to grab an ip
[06:44] <_4strO> tuco_: direct rendering: Yes ??
[06:45] <tuco_> nah
[06:45] <tuco_> Kidding yes :-)
[06:45] <_4strO> rhoooooooooooooo !!!
[06:45] <_4strO> :)
[06:45] <_4strO> was afraid :p
[06:45] <tuco_> nga nga nga#
[06:45] <tuco_> ok next my man
[06:46] <_4strO> tuco_: then type : "sudo aptitude beryl beryl-manager"
[06:47] <domenic> \join
[06:47] <tuco_> to install Beryl yes?
[06:47] <_4strO> tuco_: yes
[06:48] <tuco_> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[06:48] <tuco_> Super Cow Powers! I thought only Mad Cow existed!
[06:48] <CraZy675> the router uses 64 bit encryption and I'm not sure how to set that on here
[06:49] <tuco_> this is what I have
[06:49] <_4strO> tuco_: ok :p
[06:49] <tuco_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17849/
[06:49] <_4strO> try 'sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes'
[06:50] <_4strO> oups i forgot the 'install' word before :p
[06:50] <_4strO> nevermind
[06:50] <tuco_> so do I have to restart?
[06:51] <_4strO> tuco_: nop
[06:51] <tuco_> I mean to install Beryl :-)
[06:51] <_4strO> tuco_: do 'sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes'
[06:52] <tominglis> hi does anyone know how to enable binary transfer in kasablanca?
[06:52] <CraZy675> how do I enable 64 bit encryption for wireless?
[06:52] <tuco_> dooooooooooooooone
[06:53] <_4strO> tuco_: type "beryl-manager &"
[06:53] <tuco_> done
[06:53] <bbeck_> Hello, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that the speech bubbles for kopete are appearing in the upper right hand corner rather than above the kicker?
[06:53] <tuco_> I have this now
[06:54] <_4strO> tuco_: you have an rubis near the clock ?
[06:54] <_4strO> in the systray
[06:54] <tuco_> yes there is one also this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17850/
[06:56] <tuco> sorry
[06:57] <domenic> hello, i have gcc installed, but i do not have stdio.h
[06:57] <tuco> 4stro the icon is there but it looks like there is something wrong no?
[06:57] <_4strO> yes
[06:57] <domenic> should i reinstall gcc?
[06:57] <_4strO> tuco: can you paste the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:58] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17851/
[06:59] <CraZy675> how do I enable 64 bit encryption for wireless?
[06:59] <CraZy675> I can see the networks, but I can't connect to them
[06:59] <_4strO> tuco: mmm that's not the one i gave you :/
[07:00] <tuco> The last on yes
[07:00] <tuco> one
[07:00] <tuco> give it back then
[07:00] <_4strO> tuco: 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:00] <_4strO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17847/
[07:01] <jussi01> how do I get a root konquerer??
[07:01] <jussi01> (for file browsing/deletin)
[07:01] <_4strO> jussi01: kdesu konqueror in a konsole
[07:02] <_4strO> jussi01: but be carefull whenn you remove ;)
[07:02] <tuco> ok pasted again 4stro
[07:02] <_4strO> tuco: restart X
[07:02] <jussi01> _4strO: yeah, I know...:D
[07:02] <_4strO> tuco: you save it ?
[07:02] <_4strO> too late ...
[07:03] <_4strO> jussi01: you know what ? that you have to be carefull ?
[07:03] <jussi01> yes :D
[07:03] <_4strO> ;)
[07:03] <barry_> hello
[07:03] <charlie> here is a strange deal.  I just installed kubuntu on my compaq v2000 and konqueror will not connect to internet when using pcmcia wireless but firefox will.  konqueror will work however when connected by dsl (ethernet).  also, dhcp won't grab the default gateway or ip addy when on wireless.
[07:04] <Oliver> charlie, what's your wireless network card?
[07:04] <charlie> dlink air plus dw g630
[07:05] <gemidjy> how do I tell Xorg to use only 64MB of the video RAM (highest is 128MB) ?
[07:05] <charlie> it worked fine in both dapper and edgy with out of the box.
[07:05] <CraZy675> i'm using the 7.04 live cd and my wireless is seeing the networks but im not able to connect to them
[07:06] <Oliver> charlie, have you tried changing your connector (I have changed from Wireless Assistant to Kwlan)
[07:06] <LjL> !xconfig > gemidjy    (gemidjy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:06] <Oliver> that coonected me
[07:06] <CraZy675> where should i go from here?
[07:06] <_4strO> !xconfig > _4strO
[07:07] <gemidjy> LjL: thanks :)
[07:07] <Ashex> hehe
[07:08] <Ashex> just for fun, I'm upgrading dapper to feisty
[07:08] <Ashex> wonder how broken it will be....
[07:08] <_4strO> Ashex: lol
[07:09] <charlie__> CraZy675> did you try editing the network settings?
[07:10] <CraZy675> charlie__: by right clicking in the task bar and setting up "manual configuration"
[07:13] <charlie__> systemsettings>networksettings>routes tab> what is in this field?
[07:13] <ubuntu> 4stro. I am screwed it didn't boot back in
[07:13] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok no pb
[07:13] <mrdlouisd> How do I build my own icon set, I downloaded the new icons id like to use, just having a hard time finding a tutorial on how to use them
[07:13] <ubuntu> I am using the Live cd now
[07:13] <trotek> kubuntu.org is down?
[07:14] <ubuntu> I don't want to reinstall everything again mate
[07:14] <ubuntu> is there a way to log back in?
[07:14] <_4strO> ubuntu: you dont need to ;)
[07:14] <_4strO> ubuntu type  'sudo fdisk -l | grep linux'
[07:14] <ubuntu> well after the Kubuntu loading screen it hangs there doing nothing
[07:14] <_4strO> ubuntu: it will give you two lines
[07:14] <CraZy675> charlie__: 192.168.0.1
[07:15] <ubuntu> I am using the Livd Cd how can I do what you told me?
[07:15] <_4strO> ubuntu: you can open a konsole ?
[07:15] <ubuntu> no I can't get into it all
[07:15] <ubuntu> I had to put the live cd to come here
[07:16] <ubuntu> not from the install
[07:16] <_4strO> ubuntu: your on the liveCD now righht ?
[07:16] <ubuntu> yes
[07:16] <_4strO> then you have a konsole :p
[07:16] <ubuntu> yes
[07:17] <charlie__> CraZy675>  ok how about the ip addy in network interfaces tab?
[07:17] <_4strO> ubuntu: type 'sudo fdisk -l | grep linux'
[07:17] <_4strO> ubuntu: you will have two lines
[07:17] <CraZy675> charlie__: it has a weird 162.... instead of 192.168.0.100
[07:17] <_4strO> dont want the swap one
[07:17] <boyee> #ubuntu-cn
[07:17] <CraZy675> sorry 169
[07:18] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok ?
[07:18] <charlie__> CraZy675>  hit administrator button and coose configure interface
[07:18] <intelikey> _4strO you may assume to much.  i have 0 lines from that command
[07:18] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  fdisk -l | grep linux
[07:18] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~] 
[07:18] <ubuntu> trying
[07:18] <CraZy675> charlie__: yup
[07:19] <charlie__> then change that to 192.168.0.1
[07:19] <_4strO> intelikey: sudo fdisk -l | grep linux
[07:19] <intelikey> _4strO see the paste above ^
[07:19] <_4strO> intelikey: SUDO fdisk -l | grep linux !!!!!!!!!
[07:19] <intelikey> _4strO see the paste above ^
[07:19] <ubuntu> and after 4stro?
[07:19] <charlie__> CraZy675>  oh yeah you have to click manual button.
[07:20] <_4strO> intelikey: .... SUDO SUDO SUDO SUDO
[07:20] <lovloss> *whimper* somebody help me ;_;
[07:20] <intelikey> _4strO are you really that ignorant ?         root using sudo adds nothing.
[07:20] <CraZy675> charlie__: change it to .1 or .100?
[07:20] <pollyo> Hello
[07:20] <charlie__> try 100
[07:20] <CraZy675> k
[07:20] <_4strO> ubuntu
[07:20] <lovloss> Nothing automounts, and the loading screen turns my monitor off, i have to use recovery mode and manually load up kdm ....
[07:20] <ubuntu> waiting
[07:20] <_4strO> have you some lines ?
[07:21] <ubuntu> buntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l | grep linux
[07:21] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[07:21] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  sudo fdisk -l | grep linux
[07:21] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~] 
[07:21] <_4strO> ok ...
[07:21] <_4strO> my fault
[07:21] <ubuntu> ok now you are confusing me
[07:21] <ubuntu> what should I type?
[07:22] <_4strO> ubuntu: sudo fdisk -l | grep Linux
[07:22] <CraZy675> alright trying this out brb
[07:22] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l | grep -i linux
[07:22] <ubuntu> which one damn it?
[07:22] <JuJuBee> I installed a HD into my computer and installed windows on it for gaming.  How do I add it to my grub?
[07:23] <boyee> I install the scim but I type the CTRL+space not work in the kate.
[07:23] <intelikey> ubuntu they work the same.
[07:23] <ubuntu> I have two lines now
[07:23] <_4strO> ok
[07:23] <boyee> What I can do next?
[07:23] <ubuntu> What shall I do?
[07:23] <JuJuBee> I see it from kubuntu.  /dev/sdb1
[07:23] <boyee> help me please!!!
[07:24] <ubuntu> /dev/sda2            7785        9729    15623212+  83  Linux
[07:24] <ubuntu> /dev/sda3            7531        7784     2040255   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:24] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok
[07:24] <boyee>  I install the scim but I type the CTRL+space not work in the kate.
[07:24] <ubuntu> sorry I am in the kitchen not very confy doing this
[07:24] <intelikey> JuJuBee edit /boot/grub/menu.lst    and add the correct info
[07:24] <_4strO> ubuntu: "sudo mkdir linuxtemp && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /linuxtemp"
[07:25] <CraZy675> nope i dont' get past 24% configuring device
[07:25] <charlie__> CraZy675>  next try setting the interface back to dhcp
[07:25] <_4strO> ubuntu: (we are mounting your partition on a temp directory)
[07:25] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /linuxtemp does not exist
[07:26] <intelikey> JuJuBee example info:  title Micro$oft Windows <nextline>   root    (hd0,0) <nextline>     chainloader +1 <nextline> boot
[07:27] <_4strO> ubuntu: type "sudo mkdir test && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /test"
[07:27] <JuJuBee> but linux is (hd0,0) does it matter?
[07:27] <intelikey> JuJuBee note that the " root (blah,#) " is the only part you will need to change.
[07:27] <ubuntu> ount: mount point /test does not exist
[07:27] <ubuntu> looks like I am royally screwed here
[07:28] <JuJuBee> So set to (hd1,0) ?
[07:28] <_4strO> ubuntu: no :p
[07:28] <intelikey> JuJuBee most likely your specs will be   root (hd1,0)  but thats only a guess.
[07:28] <JuJuBee> How can I find out?
[07:28] <_4strO> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /test
[07:28] <intelikey> check the output of  sudo fdisk -l ;cat /boot/grub/device*
[07:29] <ubuntu> mount: mount point /test does not exist
[07:29] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [17:28]  --> acemo has
[07:29] <ubuntu> it looks like I am having a trip on planet mars here now!
[07:30] <acemo> huh?
[07:30] <intelikey> and adjust accordingly.    possably even add an entry in /boot/grub/device.map
[07:30] <_4strO> sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol
[07:30] <_4strO> ubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol
[07:30] <llutz> _4strO: ubuntu: sudo mkdir /lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol
[07:30] <llutz> _4strO: missing / at mkdir
[07:31] <_4strO> llutz: is there really a difference ?
[07:31] <JuJuBee> intelikey : shows me /dev/sda1 , 2, & 3 for my linux drive and then /dev/sdb1 for my NTFS drive
[07:31] <ubuntu> no nada niet nothing rien
[07:31] <llutz> _4strO: sure, "mkdir test " creates it in actual directory
[07:31] <llutz> _4strO: "/test" is root-dir
[07:31] <_4strO> llutz: that's what i want
[07:32] <JuJuBee> Then under everything (hd0)  /dev/sda
[07:32] <llutz> _4strO: ubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 lol
[07:32] <ubuntu> Ok all I want guys is start Kubuntu nornally again with the Live cd
[07:32] <acemo> anyone knows how to test if a folder excists in bash script?
[07:32] <llutz> _4strO: ^^ then use this
[07:32] <intelikey> JuJuBee yes and the use of scsi emulation means that you probably want an entry in /boot/grub/device.map  saying "/dev/hdb (hd1) "   if it's not there already.
[07:32] <ubuntu> so what should I do?
[07:32] <_4strO> llutz: weird i never had this pb before
[07:33] <LjL> acemo: test -e filename, i think
[07:33] <_4strO> ubuntu: sudo mkdir lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 lol
[07:33] <llutz> _4strO: "lol" and "/lol" are only the same if you are in "/"
[07:33] <LjL> acemo: anyway, "help test"
[07:33] <crube> I need an easy-to-use program I could use to edit web pages.
[07:33] <llutz> _4strO: "pwd" tells you, where you are ;)
[07:33] <_4strO> llutz: i know ;)
[07:33] <acemo> LjL: thanks, didnt knew there was a test command ^_^
[07:34] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok now ?
[07:34] <ubuntu> I don't know about the last one but it didnt give an error message
[07:34] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok good
[07:34] <JuJuBee> intelikey : I will give it a go... Thanks
[07:35] <ubuntu> I hope otherwise I'll put a reward on your head!
[07:35] <intelikey> JuJuBee they really made it harder to diagnose and help remotely, when they changed over to the use of scsi emulation for all hd's.     if you want you can pastebin   cat /proc/partitions   and i'll look at that for you.
[07:35] <ubuntu> what shall I do next 4stroboy?
[07:36] <_4strO> ubuntu: cd lol && kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:36] <JuJuBee> intelikey : thanks.  Let me see if the changes worked after restart first...
[07:36] <intelikey>  /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:37] <intelikey> JuJuBee if so disreguard the pastebin...  :)
[07:38] <_4strO> ubuntu:  ?
[07:38] <_4strO> what's hap ?
[07:38] <ubuntu> it gave me a lot of stuff in terminal then opened kate
[07:38] <intelikey> _4strO having him edit the config for the livecd ?
[07:38] <_4strO> yes
[07:38] <ubuntu> Poor Kate she is all opened now :-)
[07:38] <ubuntu> yes
[07:38] <_4strO> ubuntu: the file is empty ?
[07:38] <ubuntu> she is asking for it I tell ya!
[07:39] <ubuntu> nah
[07:39] <Sanne> ubuntu: not funny
[07:39] <JuJuBee> intelikey : reboot didn't even load grub menu...
[07:39] <ubuntu> She is asking for me to correct her Sanne that's all. No sexism here.
[07:39] <ubuntu> I have the xorg from before 4stro!
[07:39] <_4strO> ubuntu: go to the Section "Device"
[07:40] <ubuntu> yes
[07:40] <yuriy> charlie__: how did you end up with different name in different channels :P
[07:40] <ubuntu> it shows vesa
[07:40] <_4strO> remove all lines with Option
[07:40] <yuriy> charlie__: anyways, does knetworkmanager show you as online when you are on wireless
[07:40] <slestak> does anyone know how to disable the "do you want to dist-upgrade" prompt in adept?
[07:40] <yuriy> or did you configure it manually elsewhere?
[07:40] <polly1> Hello...
[07:40] <intelikey> JuJuBee ok pastebin the output of these three things    cat /boot/grub/device.map /boot/grub/menu.lst /proc/partitions
[07:41] <polly1> I lost my taskbar.  Any idea what would cause that or what I have to run to bring it back up?
[07:41] <ubuntu> Hold on 4stro I am pasting the file
[07:41] <_4strO> ubuntu: remove all lines with Option ... (in the Section "Device")
[07:41] <slestak> ive got an edgy machine at work that i do not want to upgrade (nor do I want anyone else to didt-upgrade it)
[07:41] <intelikey> and yes that's all one command.  "cat /boot/grub/device.map /boot/grub/menu.lst /proc/partitions"
[07:41] <charlie__> starting knetworkmanager now, neve used it before
[07:41] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17858/
[07:42] <yuriy> charlie__: it's not started already? it's default on feisty
[07:42] <polly1> brb
[07:42] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok ...close kate :p
[07:42] <yuriy> charlie__: basically my guess is that konqueror is asking network-manager if you are online and thinks you're not, so it won't connect
[07:42] <yuriy> and firefox doesn't do that
[07:42] <_4strO> ubuntu
[07:42] <ubuntu> done
[07:43] <ubuntu> yes
[07:43] <charlie__> nothing showing me as online,  just been doing updates and using firefox
[07:43] <_4strO> ubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <ubuntu> opened kate empty
[07:43] <JuJuBee> intelikey : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17859
[07:44] <JuJuBee> I removed comments
[07:44] <intelikey> looking
[07:44] <charlie__> ok i see,  it shows no connection.
[07:44] <yuriy> charlie__: does it detect your network card and networks?
[07:44] <_4strO> ubuntu: close ...
[07:44] <ubuntu> ok
[07:44] <_4strO> ubuntu: cd..
[07:44] <ubuntu> huh?
[07:44] <_4strO> cd..
[07:45] <_4strO> ^^
[07:45] <polly1> Anyone know how I would get my taskbar back with the K menu?
[07:45] <ubuntu> cd where? how?
[07:45] <charlie__> when i plug the ethernet in then it shows a connection
[07:45] <yuriy> you mean cd .. i think
[07:45] <_4strO> in the command line just type 'cd ..'
[07:45] <_4strO> yuriy: yep
[07:45] <charlie__> in the network interfaces tab it show both ath0 and eth0 as enabled and connected
[07:46] <ubuntu> cannot run the command line
[07:46] <charlie__> the icon on the task bar show not connected
[07:46] <ubuntu> in terminal or command?
[07:46] <polly1> Does anyone know the name of the application to start the taskbar?
[07:46] <yuriy> charlie__: unfortunately network-manager is stupid and can't figure out that you're connected if it didn't configure the connection
[07:46] <_4strO> ubuntu: try 'kdesu etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:46] <Sanne> polly1: it should be kicker
[07:46] <Sanne> polly1: if you mean the whole panel
[07:46] <polly1> Sanne: Ok. Thanks.
[07:47] <ubuntu> etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[07:47] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/lol$
[07:47] <polly1> Sanne: I have a bar at the top but the bottom bar is gone.  is that considered the whole panel?
[07:47] <ubuntu> pfffffffffff
[07:47] <charlie__> yuriy__ i had to futz with settings to get it to work.
[07:47] <Sanne> polly1: oh, no, it isn't
[07:47] <_4strO> looool
[07:47] <Sanne> polly1: you're on kubuntu?
[07:47] <_4strO> ubuntu: try 'kdesu kate etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <polly1> running kicker didn't bring it back.
[07:47] <_4strO> i'm really tired ...
[07:47] <ubuntu> I am losing my hair over this again
[07:47] <polly1> Sanne: Yes kubuntu.
[07:47] <charlie__> how do you get konqueror to recognize the connection
[07:48] <polly1> Sanne: I setup to have a bar at the top as well. but it isn't the one with the K
[07:48] <ubuntu> opened kate
[07:48] <intelikey> JuJuBee all looks correct.     you could   sudo grub-install /dev/sda     to update the mbr   but it shouldn't be needed.     ah unless installing windows has hosed the mbr, which is probably the case.
[07:48] <ubuntu> again
[07:48] <_4strO> ubuntu: this is my fault sorry i made lot of mistake
[07:48] <polly1> Sanne: Running kicker didn't bring up the K bar.  I have no idea where it went.
[07:48] <_4strO> ubuntu: not an empty file ?
[07:48] <ubuntu> No problem I thank you for that!
[07:48] <JuJuBee> intelikey : no, I disconnected my linux drive when I installed windows.
[07:49] <ubuntu> empty file yes
[07:49] <kalorin> !dos2unix
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <JuJuBee> To avoid that problem.
[07:49] <kalorin> hrms.. surprised that's not a package
[07:49] <ubuntu> no not empty sorry
[07:49] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok close kate and type 'cd ..' in the console
[07:49] <polly1> Kicker is already running.
[07:49] <intelikey> JuJuBee then it shouldn't be needed.     what interface are these drives ?    sata ?  ide ?   scsi ?  ...?
[07:49] <_4strO> ubuntu: ok
[07:49] <polly1> but no K menu bar
[07:49] <_4strO> pfiouuuu
[07:49] <yuriy> charlie__: i don't know the solution off the top of my head, trying to search the forums but the search is being useless for some reason.
[07:49] <JuJuBee> Linux is on a sata and windows on ide.
[07:49] <Sanne> polly1: I'm having a right click menu entry for the panel of: "Add new panel" -> "External Taskbar". Is this what you want?
[07:49] <_4strO> ubuntu: now in the Section "Device"
[07:50] <ubuntu> yes
[07:50] <_4strO> ubuntu: you have Identifier	"ATI RADEON X1400"
[07:50] <ubuntu> I closed kate
[07:50] <_4strO> LOL
[07:50] <ubuntu> arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:50] <intelikey> JuJuBee that's it.   go into bios and tell it to boot from the sata drive first.
[07:50] <JuJuBee> It is booting from sata first...
[07:50] <ubuntu> I guess it will be quicker If I reinstall Kubuntu :-)
[07:50] <JuJuBee> That is where linux is installed.
[07:50] <polly1> Sanne: Strange I do not have an option to add new panel.
[07:51] <ubuntu> but I will need your help for the ATI drivers
[07:51] <Sanne> polly1: for the kmenu you do right click-> add applet. The kmenu is in there.
[07:51] <ubuntu> all this for Beryl...geez
[07:51] <Sanne> polly1: what do you have when you right click?
[07:51] <polly1> Sanne: You are right clicking on the background image?
[07:51] <Sanne> polly1: no, on the panel
[07:52] <ubuntu> so 4stro shall I re?install K
[07:52] <polly1> Sanne: I tried it on the top panel and got some options.
[07:52] <Sanne> polly1: which ones?
[07:52] <yuriy> charlie__: try commenting everything in /etc/network/interfaces and restarting
[07:52] <charlie__> yuriy> thanks, I have been posting to the forums.
[07:52] <_4strO> if the liveCD choose the vesa driver for an ATI, does it mean the free ati driver doesn't supported ?
[07:52] <intelikey> JuJuBee and edit /boot/grub/device.map    change  (hd1)   /dev/sdb    to   (hd1)   /dev/hda   (assuming first ide)   if cdrom drive or anything on the same bus might be hdc
[07:52] <polly1> Sanne: What panel is considered the one with the K button?
[07:52] <_4strO> ubuntu
[07:52] <_4strO> ubuntu: no
[07:52] <ubuntu> I am asking you mate...you knoe better than I do
[07:52] <ubuntu> yes
[07:52] <Sanne> polly1: the kmenu is an applet you can add to the panel.
[07:53] <charlie__> yuriy> you mean #everything
[07:53] <_4strO> ubuntu: in one command we can reverse to the original version you had before this test ;)
[07:53] <charlie__> oops
[07:53] <yuriy> charlie__: yeah i think # is the right thing
[07:53] <ubuntu> I am waiting for it like preachers for Jesus!
[07:53] <yuriy> g2g, gl
[07:53] <JuJuBee> OK, done, now restarting ...
[07:53] <_4strO> ubuntu: but i just wanna know something before
[07:53] <ubuntu> ahaha
[07:53] <charlie__> okeedokee
[07:53] <_4strO> if the liveCD choose the vesa driver for an ATI, does it mean the free ati driver doesn't supported ?
[07:53] <_4strO> nobody knows ?
[07:54] <polly1> Sanne: I have Dock Application , External , Kasbar, krim , externap panel
[07:54] <_4strO> intelikey:
[07:54] <polly1> make that ksim
[07:54] <Ashex> _4strO, the liveCD i believe uses the vesa driver as a default
[07:54] <giorgos> In every restart I have 70% chance that the kernel wouldnt mount the swap and ntfs partitions. Anybody with this issue?
[07:54] <polly1> universal sidebar
[07:54] <intelikey> _4strO no it means the live cd uses vesa by default
[07:54] <polly1> as well
[07:54] <_4strO> ok thx
[07:54] <ubuntu> but at least with Vesa I get a 1024x768...the case here is that I cannot boot into Kubuntu, only get a black screen after the loading screen
[07:54] <_4strO> ubuntu: kate is open right
[07:54] <ubuntu> no
[07:55] <_4strO> ubuntu: kdesu kate etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:55] <atz> anyone know where in KDE you change your cursor?
[07:55] <JuJuBee> intelikey : no menu, straight to linux.
[07:55] <Sanne> polly1: that doesn't look at all like mine. Are you sure you're looking at the kde panel?
[07:55] <intelikey> atz kcontrol
[07:55] <ubuntu> opened and empty
[07:55] <snap> yeah been looking for that
[07:55] <_4strO> ubuntu: not empty
[07:55] <atz> ty intelikey :)
[07:55] <intelikey> JuJuBee k let me revisit the pastebin.....
[07:56] <ubuntu> it is
[07:56] <Ashex> to reconfigure the xorg.conf file
[07:56] <polly1> Sanne: Under add new panel right?
[07:56] <Sanne> polly1: oh wait!!
[07:56] <Ashex> use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-oxrg
[07:56] <JuJuBee> should I grub-install /dev/sda ?
[07:56] <intelikey> JuJuBee remove the line in menu.slt     hiddenmenu
[07:56] <_4strO> ubuntu: did you type the cd .. command before ?
[07:56] <ubuntu> yes
[07:56] <_4strO> ok
[07:56] <intelikey> JuJuBee if it's told to hide the menu it does....
[07:57] <_4strO> ubuntu: close kate and 'kdesu kate lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <snap> where is Kcontrol in the menues?
[07:57] <JuJuBee> my bad, didn't see that...
[07:57] <ubuntu> empty kate
[07:57] <Ashex> _4strO, what are they trying to do?
[07:57] <Sanne> polly1: yes, I see the same (almost). I have "External Taskbar" instead of "External Panel". Maybe because I'm on Dapper still. I would try those external options.
[07:57] <intelikey> snap used to be look & feel   themes   i think
[07:58] <_4strO> Ashex: running the ati free driver on a radeon X1400
[07:58] <ubuntu> again!
[07:58] <polly1> Sanne: Yes.  Mine also says Eternal Taskbar.  should have jotted them down prior to typing them.
[07:58] <_4strO> ubuntu: empty ?
[07:58] <ubuntu> yes
[07:58] <intelikey> _4strO  >>> kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:58] <snap> found something under system settings "keyboard & mouse
[07:58] <slestak> is there a way to lock an install to edgy and prevent dist-upgrade?  i want to disable the adept dist-upgrade dialog.
[07:58] <intelikey> the leading / maybe.
[07:58] <polly1> Sanne: I was able to get a new panel going with the K menu.  I'll have to look more into it later.  Thanks for the heads up on finding the add panel.
[07:58] <_4strO> intelikey: there is something i dont see on the liveCD tree :p
[07:59] <_4strO> ubunt
[07:59] <_4strO> ubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <Sanne> polly1: you're welcome :)
[07:59] <polly1> BB:
[07:59] <ubuntu> At this pace I better just reinstall the damn thing and sweat again to reinstall drivers arhhhh
[07:59] <facugaich> I just downloaded w32codecs from medibuntu but the file seems to be corrupt, plus the transfer rate is very low, are there any mirrors?
[08:00] <slestak> facugaich: i think the mplayer homepage has them
[08:00] <_4strO> ubuntu: without all my mistakes we done nothing :p
[08:00] <_4strO> we hed done
[08:00] <balint> hi, can someone tell me, wich port is used by the Adept Manager?
[08:00] <_4strO> had
[08:00] <ubuntu> strange it showed a few things on the left like desktop,linux temp, lol, test...
[08:00] <ubuntu> but kate still empty
[08:00] <JuJuBee> intelikey : got the menu, selected windows and now stayed at Starting Up ...  for while, Now stuck at blank screen.
[08:01] <_4strO> ok ...
[08:01] <_4strO> ubuntu
[08:01] <_4strO> close kate !
[08:01] <ubuntu> dying...
[08:01] <ubuntu> dooooooooone
[08:01] <_4strO> ubuntu: kdesu kate /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:02] <ubuntu> empty kate
[08:02] <Kimppa> Hello. I've just changed my mother board and as expected, some hardware isn't working anymore (such as sounds). Is there any way I can reconfigure kubuntu to my new mother board - other than reinstalling it?
[08:03] <intelikey> JuJuBee ok.  you probably need to read up on grub a bit and find out how to tell grub to set hda to 0x80    cause windows was installed on what bios saw as 0x80  now it's trying to load on 0x81   (bios declaration of hard drive location, kinda like the grub hd0 thing.)
[08:03] <_4strO> ubuntu: close kate and type 'pwd'
[08:03] <ubuntu> done
[08:03] <_4strO> ubuntu: result ?
[08:03] <balint> where can i browse the irc channles in konversation????
[08:04] <JuJuBee> Sounds too much trouble... Might be eaiser to reset HD order in bios when I need windows...
[08:04] <balint> oh i got it, F5
[08:04] <intelikey> JuJuBee i'd just give you the line to add if i knew grub,  but i use lilo.    in lilo it would be       boot-as=0x80     but i doubt that grub will recognize that.
[08:04] <ubuntu> without the unknown command
[08:04] <sean> can someone please help me?
[08:04] <_4strO> ubuntu: pwd
[08:04] <JuJuBee> let me look it up...
[08:04] <ubuntu> done that
[08:04] <_4strO> will give you one line
[08:05] <sean> its a newbie question, it will probably be really easy to answer....
[08:05] <fdoving> sean: ask, and see what happens.
[08:05] <intelikey> JuJuBee you can do it that way too.  (bios change for each boot gets tiresum)
[08:05] <_4strO> !ask | sean
[08:05] <ubotu> sean: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <ubuntu> Sean...if you need to mess up your machine ask 4stro ;-)
[08:05] <sean> im trying to remap my apple(command) key to work as the ctrl key on an apple ibook g4
[08:05] <sean> im attempting to follow these instructions : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13640
[08:05] <intelikey> fdoving might know grub well enough to tell you JuJuBee
[08:05] <_4strO> ubuntu: pwd give one line no ?
[08:06] <ubuntu> yes
[08:06] <sean> can someone translate those from me :P?
[08:06] <_4strO> ubun
[08:06] <_4strO> ubun
[08:06] <_4strO> oups
[08:06] <ubuntu> this one /home/ubuntu\
[08:06] <balint> actually i have one questiion:) hoc can i find out, wich ports are used by the adept manager, and konversation???
[08:06] <fdoving> JuJuBee: what's the problem?
[08:06] <Sanne> Kimppa: usually hardware is recognized at boot time by the linux kernel, so I doubt reinstalling would help.
[08:06] <_4strO> ubuntu: cd lol
[08:06] <JuJuBee> intelikey : what aobut this... map (0x81) (0x80)
[08:06] <_4strO> ubuntu: ls
[08:06] <ubuntu> buntu@ubuntu:~/lol$
[08:07] <ubuntu> done
[08:07] <intelikey> JuJuBee see fdoving
[08:07] <_4strO> ubuntu: you have many things appear ?
[08:07] <ubuntu> yes sir
[08:07] <intelikey> i'll be back in a few.
[08:07] <_4strO> cd etc/X11/
[08:07] <_4strO> ubuntu: cd etc/X11
[08:07] <JuJuBee> fdoving : I installed windows on second HD (but I removed my linux drive first).  Now I want to dual boot.
[08:07] <_4strO> ubuntu: cd etc/X11/
[08:08] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/lol/etc/X11$
[08:08] <fdoving> JuJuBee: and you
[08:08] <_4strO> ubuntu: kdesu kate xorg.conf
[08:08] <fdoving> JuJuBee: and you're stuck with linux only? or windows only?
[08:08] <JuJuBee> Linux
[08:08] <_4strO> empty ?
[08:08] <JuJuBee> my windows drive  is mounted on linux desktop.
[08:08] <JuJuBee> I can see it..
[08:08] <ubuntu> full
[08:08] <fdoving> JuJuBee: ok. good. then it's rather easy.
[08:08] <JuJuBee> Linux on SATA windows on IDE
[08:08] <Sanne> Kimppa: I can't give specific advice with sound because I didn't have problems so far, but let me give you hints from the bot:
[08:09] <_4strO> ubunin the section Section "Device"
[08:09] <Sanne> !sound | Kimppa
[08:09] <ubotu> Kimppa: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:09] <fdoving> JuJuBee: ok. should be pretty stright forward. what have you tried?
[08:09] <_4strO> ubuntu: in the Section "Device"
[08:09] <trotek> hey, what's going on with kubuntu.org?
[08:09] <_4strO> ubuntu: remove all lines begin with Option
[08:10] <_4strO> ubuntu: you have 8 lines
[08:10] <sean> anyone?
[08:10] <ubuntu> full file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17861/
[08:10] <Sanne> trotek: seems to be down for me
[08:10] <JuJuBee> in /boot/grub/device.map added (hd1) /dev/hda and in menu.lst added entry for windows root (hd1,0)
[08:11] <JuJuBee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17859
[08:11] <_4strO> ubun
[08:11] <ubuntu> yesssssssss
[08:11] <ubuntu> ok I remove the lines
[08:12] <_4strO> ubuntu: then save and reboot
[08:12] <fdoving> JuJuBee: sdb is windows? - what does it say when you try to boot windows?
[08:13] <JuJuBee> fdoving : doesn't boot windows...  after Starting Up ... blank screen.
[08:13] <fdoving> JuJuBee: oh.. so windows does actually begin booting?
[08:13] <fdoving> it just fails.. ?
[08:14] <JuJuBee> Not sure?  I think the starting up... is part of linux (grub).
[08:15] <JuJuBee> I changed the entry in device.map from what is in pastebin...
[08:15] <JuJuBee> If I change bios boot order to IDE first, windows boots fine.
[08:16] <fdoving> JuJuBee: ok. hard to tell what the problem is without an error message. i deleted windows a few days ago. :|
[08:17] <giorgos> same for me. I have 70% chance though of not mounting swap and ntfs partitions. Anoybody with this issue?
[08:18] <JuJuBee> I only need windows for gaming...
[08:18] <JuJuBee> about 3-4 times a year.
[08:19] <JuJuBee> See, the linux install was done as only HD in computer and same for windows.  Now I want to put both HD's in computer and dual boot.
[08:19] <Ashex> JuJuBee, have the Bios boot off the linux drive
[08:19] <fdoving> sean: make a ~/.xmodmap file like the one explained in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=63485&postcount=15 - then run 'xmodmap' on every login. might need to install xmodmap if it's not available by default.
[08:20] <Ashex> and add an entry in menu.lst to boot the windows drive
[08:20] <Ashex> so, insert the drive first, and then figure out the location
[08:20] <eifzon> where can i get kubuntu? kubuntu.com is down
[08:20] <JuJuBee> ashex : it is...
[08:20] <eifzon> i want fiesty 7.04
[08:20] <JuJuBee> but not working...
[08:20] <fdoving> eifzon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[08:21] <Ashex> JuJuBee, one second
[08:21] <Ashex> I'll pastebin mine
[08:21] <fdoving> JuJuBee: did you try without your changes to device.map ?
[08:21] <fyrmedic> What's up with the website?
[08:21] <JuJuBee> fdoving : yes.
[08:22] <ubuntu> It didn't work 4stro
[08:22] <_4strO> lol ubuntu... not better ?
[08:22] <_4strO> ok
[08:23] <Ashex> JuJuBee, this is what I use for booting windows: http://pastebin.ca/459814
[08:23] <ubuntu> so  my only option is to reinstall
[08:23] <_4strO> ubuntu: no
[08:23] <_4strO> look
[08:23] <ubuntu> honestly I don't want to waste another two hours on it
[08:23] <JuJuBee> ashex : i'll look...brb
[08:23] <fdoving> JuJuBee: so, a 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' - does that help? - i think that'll make the device.maps etc. by itself.
[08:24] <fdoving> ubuntu, what is it you're trying to do?
[08:24] <Ashex> JuJuBee wants to boot both systems
[08:24] <ubuntu> it will be faster for me to reinstall and then put ATI drivers again
[08:24] <Ashex> installing grub won't do diddly
[08:24] <Ashex> to generate a new device.maps
[08:24] <Ashex> run grub-update
[08:24] <Goliath23> hi
[08:24] <_4strO> ubuntu: sudo mkdir /lol && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /lol && sudo mv /lol/etc/X11/xorg.bak /lol/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:24] <Goliath23> is aoss known to not work on x64 platforms?
[08:25] <Goliath23> I get a ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded:                                            ignored.
[08:25] <ubuntu> I can't boot in Kubuntu anymore...it hangs atfter the loading screen. With a white little line flashing inn a blank screen
[08:25] <_4strO> ubuntu: type the command above
[08:25] <_4strO> ubuntu: and reboot ;)
[08:26] <_4strO> (if there no error)
[08:26] <JuJuBee> ashex : is windows on separate HD?
[08:26] <ubuntu> ok doing it now
[08:26] <Ashex> JuJuBee, for me it is
[08:26] <Ashex> JuJuBee, don't use that exact entry though, you'll probably need to modify the root location
[08:26] <JuJuBee> ashex : so does linux show (hd0,0)?
[08:26] <Ashex> so, insert the drive, boot into ubuntu
[08:26] <Ashex> and then do fdisk -l
[08:27] <Ashex> no
[08:27] <fdoving> JuJuBee: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why#Separate_disk_installation
[08:27] <ubuntu> ctrl alt backspace gave nothing
[08:27] <Ashex> I have ubuntu on a seperate disk
[08:27] <Ashex> so, it's located at (hd1,0)
[08:27] <Ashex> while windows is located at (hd0,2)
[08:27] <ubuntu> or do I have to reboot it all?
[08:27] <fdoving> JuJuBee: it says windwos generally does not like to be the second drive.
[08:27] <JuJuBee> ashex : the disk for windows is /dev/sdb1
[08:27] <_4strO> ubuntudid you type the command ?
[08:28] <ubuntu> in terminal yes
[08:28] <_4strO> ubuntu: did you type the command before ?
[08:28] <_4strO> ok
[08:28] <_4strO> you have to reboot
[08:28] <Ashex> JuJuBee, what's the root disk located?
[08:28] <ubuntu> ctrl alt bacspce did nothing
[08:28] <_4strO> ubuntu: you're on the liveCD
[08:28] <JuJuBee> ashex : sda1
[08:28] <Ashex> JuJuBee, actually, run this command: cat /boot/grub/device.map
[08:28] <ubuntu> yes
[08:28] <_4strO> reboot !
[08:28] <Sanne> JuJuBee: this may also help: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[08:28] <ubuntu> ok
[08:28] <_4strO> without the CD ;)
[08:29] <_4strO> ubuntu:
[08:29] <Ashex> Seriously people
[08:29] <Ashex> I'm helping the man
[08:29] <Ashex> quit throwing random links at him
[08:29] <_4strO> you dont have any error before with the command ?
[08:29] <_4strO> too late ...
[08:29] <luca> Hi
[08:30] <Sanne> Ashex: sorry. It's about disk swapping when windows is not on the first disk, I thought that applies here. Will shut up now :)
[08:30] <JuJuBee> teh device.map has (hd1) /dev/hda
[08:30] <Ashex> heh
[08:30] <Ashex> okay, run this command: sudo update-grub
[08:30] <luca> I need help setting up my scren resolution on kubuntu
[08:30] <Ashex> it needs to update device.map to contain the second drive you've inserted
[08:30] <graft> hi how come there's no packages of mandvd in kubuntu?
[08:31] <graft> it's like the highest rated app on kde-apps...
[08:31] <fdoving> Ashex: ok, when you give up, go read the link i posted above. :)
[08:32] <Ashex> fdoving, there are a couple ways you can do it
[08:32] <Ashex> I'm showing him how I have it setup
[08:32] <Ashex> which is similar to his
[08:32] <fdoving> .. except his windows is on the second drive.
[08:32] <fdoving> and the links me and sanne posted will help you solve that specific issue.
[08:32] <JuJuBee> Since I show my windows drive as /dev/sdb1, should my map be (hd1) /dev/dsb ? in device.map
[08:32] <Sanne> graft: I guess it's because of lacking packagers/time/interest. Somebody has to package it for Kubuntu, seemingly nobody did so far.
[08:32] <tuco> 4stro?
[08:32] <tuco> It worked you cheeky bugger!
[08:32] <_4strO> tuco: yes
[08:33] <tuco> You knew the command and you mAD
[08:33] <tuco> made me wait!
[08:33] <tuco> If I get to you....arghhhhhhhhhh
[08:33] <Ashex> fdoving, I have windows on a second drive also
[08:33] <_4strO> tuco: i know but it seems that the free driver does'nt support your videocard :/
[08:33] <tuco> how come?
[08:34] <Ashex> fdoving, I want to try it the automated way before doing it the manual way (looked at that link)
[08:34] <_4strO> tuco: dont know why ... but without the free driver, you cant have beryl
[08:34] <tuco> :( :( :(
[08:34] <fdoving> Ashex: ok. good :)
[08:34] <_4strO> or you can but will be more complicate :/
[08:34] <Ashex> JuJuBee, what do you mean?
[08:34] <tuco> You just broke my heart
[08:34] <_4strO> lol
[08:35] <tuco> Beryl is sooooooooo sexy
[08:35] <Ashex> fdoving, so I'm not ignoring your input, I just vented way back because it's annoying when people just interrupt
[08:35] <_4strO> tuco: know you can ' sudo apt-get remove beryl emerald-themes
[08:35] <_4strO> :/
[08:35] <fdoving> Ashex: sure, i was first :)
[08:35] <Ashex> JuJuBee, it will probably show up as (hd1)
[08:35] <_4strO> brb$
[08:35] <Ashex> fdoving, ah, I didn't see your comments
[08:36] <Ashex> so, my mistake >_>
[08:36] <JuJuBee> ashex : when i did fdisk -l , the windows disk is at /dev/sdb1  so, should my device.map have (hd1) /dev/sdb  and the root section for my windows in menu.lst be (hd1,0) ?
[08:36] <fdoving> Ashex: i'm perfectly happy with you taking over. no problem :)
[08:36] <Ashex> JuJuBee, yes
[08:37] <_4strO> tuco: will googleing to know more about you ATI X1400
[08:37] <Ashex> JuJuBee, do another cat of device.map to check that it's updated
[08:37] <tuco> ok my friends
[08:37] <JuJuBee> I had to manually change device.map, didn't I?
[08:38] <_4strO> it works with my poor X600 it have to work with your X14000
[08:38] <tuco> why only this one then? :-(
[08:38] <Ashex> JuJuBee, did you run update-grub?
[08:40] <pctunning> hola a todos
[08:40] <JuJuBee> Yes, just di.
[08:40] <JuJuBee> did
[08:40] <Ashex> okay
[08:40] <pctunning> alquien sabe como desinstalar beryl?
[08:40] <Ashex> do another cat of device.map
[08:41] <pctunning> anyone know how to uninstall beryl?
[08:41] <JuJuBee> Still shows what I put in there (hd0) /dev/sda   and   (hd1) /dev/sdb
[08:41] <graft> pctunning: sudo apt-get remove beryl
[08:41] <Ashex> JuJuBee, okay, sounds good
[08:41] <pctunning> yes, but this accion remove all?
[08:41] <Ashex> so, using that template i gave you for a menu entry
[08:42] <Ashex> modify menu.lst and add in an entry at the bottom for windows
[08:42] <Ashex> and use (hd1,0) for the root
[08:42] <graft> pctunning: sudo apt-get remove beryl*
[08:42] <pctunning> ok, thanks
[08:42] <pctunning> ah, ok
[08:42] <JuJuBee> I have that in menu.lst.
[08:43] <Ashex> JuJuBee, okay, you should be good to go then
[08:43] <Ashex> reboot and try booting into windows
[08:43] <JuJuBee> Let me reboot...
[08:44] <kalorin> ps -ef
[08:46] <pctunning> it exist any channell of kubuntu in spanish?
[08:47] <Sanne> !es
[08:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:47] <fdoving> !es | pctunning
[08:47] <ubotu> pctunning: please see above
[08:48] <SharpRazor> could anyone help me?? I don't have GUI in the newest kernel-module, tried to install kubuntu-desktop but it didn't help at all:(
[08:48] <ale84> anyone have a sony vaio vgn a 517b ?? because seems to be impossible install any linux on this laptop  doesn't reconize my hdd, any one can tell me why ??
[08:49] <stoft> I have an external usb drive that doesn't mount (probably because I detached it during boot). Where should I start looking for error messages/which daemon is most likely to be responsible?
[08:49] <JuJuBee> ashex : when I select windows from grub, grub says Starting Up...  Then nothing happens...
[08:50] <JuJuBee> blinking cursor
[08:50] <stoft> ale84: what happens when you type startx in the commandline?
[08:51] <qsu> anybody very good with openoffice overhere
[08:51] <ikog> what's the difference between ubuntu + kde package, and kubuntu, is it just some extra packages and different menu entries, etc? I assume the underlying kde packages are the same?
[08:51] <Ashex> JuJuBee, hmm
[08:51] <Ashex> JuJuBee, what's the partitioning layout of the windows disk?
[08:51] <Ashex> is it just one partition?
[08:51] <stoft> ikog: mostly yeah, kubuntu also has different usplash and kdm instead of gdm.
[08:52] <JuJuBee> Yes...
[08:52] <ikog> stoft: ah that's great, I prefer ubuntu + kde so I will stick with that, I'm happy to do the extra setup myself
[08:52] <ikog> stoft: I ran edgy ubuntu + kde, just upgraded to feisty so I was gonna do the same thing
[08:52] <stoft> ikog: what is it you prefer in ubuntu more than in kubuntu?
[08:53] <SharpRazor> what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu:)??
[08:53] <ikog> stoft: I just like having a full gnome install if I need it, plus I like the plain default kde
[08:53] <ikog> stoft: there's not really much difference though
[08:53] <Ashex> JuJuBee, okay, open up menu.lst
[08:53] <Ashex> we're going to tweak that entry a little
[08:53] <ikog> I guess I could install gnome on kubuntu, but that seems even weirder than kde on ubuntu
[08:53] <JuJuBee> K
[08:54] <stoft> ikog: ok. in that case go with what you've got. I've got the ubuntu usplash but kubuntu install. I like the ubuntu colors during startup more.
[08:54] <Sanne> SharpRazor: Ubuntu -> GNOME desktop, Kubuntu -> KDE Desktop
[08:54] <Ashex> JuJuBee, change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[08:55] <JuJuBee> done
[08:55] <fdoving> stoft: about that usb device, does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?
[08:55] <CraZy675> my wireless was working with the live cd but now that I've installed to hdd I don't see any networks
[08:55] <stoft> fdoving: no
[08:55] <fdoving> stoft: ok, good. it's remoable so it should just be a matter of plugging it in then.
[08:55] <fdoving> *removable
[08:55] <Ashex> JuJuBee, now at the bottom of it, add in the lines: map (hd0) (hd1) // map (hd1) (hd0)
[08:56] <stoft> fdoving: tried and retried a few times
[08:56] <ikog> right... I think I'll try the switch to kde now, I want to see if it can eject my USB2 hard drive, gnome won't let me
[08:56] <Ashex> JuJuBee, and try that
[08:56] <fdoving> stoft: ok, you can try 'dcop kded mediamanager reloadBackends' in a konsole.
[08:56] <stoft> fdoving: lights turn on but nothing mounts. it's a fairly new drive (1 month tops) so don't think I lost it...
[08:56] <JuJuBee> update-grup?
[08:56] <JuJuBee> or reboot
[08:57] <Ashex> JuJuBee, reboot
[08:57] <stoft> fdoving: with the drive plugged in?
[08:57] <JuJuBee> k
[08:57] <fdoving> stoft: yes, that doesn't really matter. so yes, why not.
[08:58] <SharpRazor> could anyone tell me what will happen if ill install kde-desktop on newest kernel in which i don't have a GUI??
[08:58] <JuJuBee> ashex : Error 11 : unrecognized device string  Press any key to continue ...  back to menu
[08:59] <SharpRazor> what will happen with old Kde Desktop Environment on the older kernel??
[08:59] <Ashex> JuJuBee, hmm
[09:00] <Ashex> okay, remove those two lines we added
[09:00] <CraZy675> where can I read the difference between the cd and the dvd?
[09:00] <JuJuBee> done
[09:00] <Ashex> JuJuBee, the entry is setup as it should be
[09:00] <JuJuBee> K, rebooting again...
[09:00] <Ashex> JuJuBee, it seems as though the drive location isn't correct
[09:01] <Ashex> JuJuBee, double check that (hd1,0) is correct
[09:01] <Ashex> I'll brb
[09:02] <stdin> CraZy675: the DVD is the desktop install and the alternate install cd in one, you can also do a server or OEM install from it. it also has more packages on it, so you can use it as an apt- source
[09:02] <stoft> fdoving: ok, "lost" my other devices. tried replugging the drive that wouldn't mount but no luck. tried plugging it into another usb port, which worked. the other devices also mount ok.
[09:03] <CraZy675> interesting
[09:03] <fdoving> stoft: so it works in another port?
[09:03] <stoft> fdoving: yes. any idea what's happened?
[09:03] <JuJuBee> How do I make sure that (hd1,0) is correct ?
[09:04] <fdoving> stoft: no, sounds strange.
[09:04] <levi_> Question
[09:04] <levi_> Why cant I write to a slave hard drive?
[09:04] <stoft> could there be a lower level daemon or something (shooting from my hip here) that crashed/comm errored on that specific port?
[09:05] <atidem> re
[09:05] <stdin> JuJuBee: check in /boot/grub/device.map
[09:05] <jonathan__> stoft: (jumping in without really knowing the full conversation) might be a prob w/ usb2 on different usb buses - I've had usb wireless nics not work plugged in the front of the computer, work from the back.
[09:05] <JuJuBee> stdin : I put the entry there, I want to make sure it was correct.
[09:05] <jonathan__> stoft: look @ /var/log/syslog as you plug the drive in
[09:06] <stdin> JuJuBee: ahh, well hd1,0 would be the 1st partition on the 1st slave device or 2nd master (if there is no slave)
[09:07] <JuJuBee> stdin : i have 1 SATA and 1 IDE HD.  I also have an IDE DVD as slave to IDE HD
[09:07] <stoft> jonathan__: thnx for the assistance. this is a first time occurence, the device has loaded on the "faulty" port previously without problems.
[09:08] <levi_> Why cant I write to a slave hard drive?
[09:08] <jonathan__> stoft: eh - just a thought...
[09:09] <stoft> jonathan__: np mate, thankful for it :)
[09:09] <stdin> JuJuBee: what does (hd1) have in /boot/grub/device.map
[09:09] <stoft> jonathan__: the drive was disconnected in the middle of boot so guessing something errored out in the middle of loading.
[09:10] <JuJuBee> stdin : hd1  /dev/sdb (which is my windows drive IDE)
[09:11] <stdin> JuJuBee: then (hd1,0) is the 1st partition on sdb
[09:11] <JuJuBee> OK.
[09:12] <insmod> 7.04 still can't shut down an acer lol
[09:12] <stoft> fdoving: thnx for the help btw
[09:12] <JuJuBee> Well, it wont boot when I try to boot via grub. But if I tell bios to boot from that disc before the sata, then windows boots fine.
[09:12] <ASmith42> I installed KDiskFree and now I can't find it.
[09:12] <fdoving> stoft: it was so little, but you
[09:12] <fdoving> re welcome.
[09:13] <Tm_T> levi_: hmm, you can't?
[09:14] <roach> i'm hooking up an NTFS portable drive
[09:14] <jonathan__> stoft: what do logs say as you turn on the usb drive? tail -f /var/log/syslog
[09:14] <roach> and i click on open the drive in a new window
[09:15] <roach> and it doesn't open
[09:16] <stoft> fdoving: jonathan__:  "hub 4-4:1.0: cannot disable port 3 (err = -71)" and then "hub 4-4:1.0: cannot reset port 3 (err = -71)".
[09:16] <Smurphy[ACS] > Anyone knos a nice programm to draw Network-draft ? PLans etc. ?
[09:17] <stoft> jonathan__: that was during startup though.
[09:18] <stoft> jonathan__: fdoving: tried remounting it on the old port, now it mounted fine. weird. chalk one up to the phases of the moon...
[09:18] <stoft> thnx for the help nonetheless
[09:18] <Ashex> stdin, have you figured out the grub issue with JuJuBee?
[09:18] <Ashex> I tried helping him but didn't have any luck :/
[09:19] <JuJuBee> Ashex : nope.  Still no joy
[09:19] <Ashex> Hmm
[09:19] <jonathan__> stoft: middle of 10,000 ???'s that you just answered - yeah, waxing moons'l do that!
[09:19] <Ashex> that is rather annoying that issue
[09:19] <Ashex> JuJuBee, you can try ##linux
[09:19] <TheCreationist> I'm having a strange sound issue in Edgy.  For some reason, whenever I login, I need to manually run alsamixer and fix a balance issue... Kubuntu will only play sound from one speaker until I run alsamixer.  Any ideas?
[09:20] <stdin> booting windows can be difficult sometimes
[09:20] <JuJuBee> thanx
[09:20] <myte> Has anyone gotten beryl to work on kubuntu feisty KDE when using AIGLX xserver with ATI Radeon card, Igot it workin on xgl xserver, but my ati drivers aren't apparently eorkin on xgl. ??? This problems killing me.
[09:21] <roguejedix> myte: As far as I know, ATI announced never to support AIGLX. I could be wrong, though
[09:23] <myte> roguedix that would be a bit confusing since i got  ATI drivers working only on AIGLX with fglrx drivers,
[09:24] <roguejedix> myte: Oh, sorry. Misread what you said
[09:25] <eifzon> How do i install my nvidia-graphic drivers for kubuntu?
[09:25] <roguejedix> eifzon: What card do you have?
[09:25] <eifzon> roguejedix: asus geforce 7950 gt
[09:26] <roguejedix> eifzon: Then run adept and install nvidia-glx
[09:27] <eifzon> roguejedix: anything more?
[09:27] <roguejedix> eifzon: Yes, then in the console type in: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable . After that, restart X and you're done
[09:27] <eifzon> ok :))
[09:28] <myte> This is just twisted, i get this feeling i'm cursed with these bizarre problems since i startes using linux .
[09:29] <kalorin> teh curses!
[09:29] <kalorin> teh curse of teh lunix!
[09:30] <roguejedix> myte: Composite window managers are still in early stages, so there's bound to be problems
[09:30] <kalorin> i just disabled it because remote desktop wouldn't run with it
[09:30] <kalorin> unless you pull the 1.5 version and use that, but I prefer to stay wtih the packages isntead of building my own and having to deal with all the hassle of upgrading them and stuff
[09:30] <mlv> spanish??
[09:30] <stdin> !es | mlv
[09:30] <ubotu> mlv: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:31] <kalorin> they should ditch the ! <whatever> and make it private message based
[09:31] <mlv> #ubuntu-es
[09:31] <kalorin> then it doesn't clutter the channel so much
[09:31] <mlv> como entro??
[09:31] <roguejedix> mlv: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:31] <mlv> ok ;)
[09:31] <roguejedix> I hope that's what he meant
[09:33] <myte> roguedix i bet youre right , btw when i enabled composite extenctions on xorg.conf , my ATI drivers stopped working, and when i disabled them again they worked fine again
[09:33] <Ashex> Holy crap
[09:33] <Ashex> I see why they say not to upgrade from dapper to feisty
[09:33] <Ashex> it doesn't break packages, it just removes everything...
[09:33] <Ashex> for some reason during dist-upgrade, it removed kubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <stdin> Ashex: try installing it again then
[09:34] <eifzon> wierd, my X didnt load
[09:34] <bonbonthejon> Ashex: did you have kubuntu-desktop removed before hand
[09:34] <stdin> eifzon: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for errors
[09:34] <eifzon> ok
[09:34] <eifzon> did i install the right nvidia driver then? nvidia-glx ?
[09:35] <eifzon> got Asus Geforce 7950 GT
[09:35] <myte> ATI isn't obviously the way to go on linux,but it came with my laptop so i cant help it. atleast i got almost everything workin after couple of tough nights
[09:36] <Ashex> heh, I am installing it again
[09:37] <Ashex> after the dist-upgrade, update, dist-upgrade again, and then -f install, I noticed that the kmenu was rather empty
[09:37] <myte> i still cant get my webcam working it's integrated acer orbicam, not sure if there is any way to get it working
[09:37] <Ashex> All the K apps were gone, so I'm installing the kubuntu-desktop package again, and it's putting it all back now
[09:37] <aj_> hi, could somebody please help me installing beryl
[09:37] <stdin> eifzon: yeah, make sure you have the restricted modules package installed too
[09:37] <Ashex> I dind't even have kde-base :/
[09:37] <Ashex> !beryl | aj_
[09:37] <ubotu> aj_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:37] <eifzon> stdin: (WW) NVIDIA: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[09:37] <eifzon> ffs stdin, that was missing :D
[09:37] <aj_> Pretty new to ubuntu, and can't find out how, I try following the install description
[09:38] <eifzon> stdin: whats commando to get those packages down?
[09:38] <Ashex> eifzon, if you're installing the nvidia driver, make sure you install the nvidia-kernel-source and linux-restricted-modules
[09:38] <eifzon> Ashex: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source and the linux-restricted-modules ?
[09:38] <aj_> I've typed ./configure in the console, and it is well, doing a lot. Then it says, in the guide: Type `make' to compile the package
[09:38] <stdin> eifzon: open konsole and copy/paste this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:38] <Ashex> eifzon, for restricted-module, use your kernel version
[09:39] <Ashex> what stdin said
[09:39] <Ashex> :P
[09:39] <aj_> but typing make returns something lie "nothing to do, no makefile found. Stop"
[09:39] <stdin> aj_: for god sake don't compile beryl
[09:39] <stdin> aj_: just install the packages
[09:39] <eifzon> stdin: (uname -r) shall it say that?
[09:39] <aj_> it says that I should in the INSTALL file ?
[09:40] <aj_> well, what to do then ?
[09:40] <Ashex> aj_, follow this guide: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[09:40] <Ashex> and use #ubuntu-effects for help
[09:40] <stdin> eifzon: yeah, put $(uname -r)
[09:40] <eifzon> ok :) thx
[09:40] <eifzon> brb
[09:41] <Ashex> I hope he installed nvidia-kernel-source too
[09:41] <Ashex> otherwise he'll be back
[09:41] <stdin> Ashex: you don't need the source, just the module. unless you're planning on compiling it
[09:43] <eifzon> nothing more to fix? still cant start it =S
[09:43] <stdin> eifzon: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[09:43] <obsethryl> guys, should I deduct anything of particular importance out of shuttleworth's last open week thing regarding the future of KDE integration (ubuntu comes first, all the other projects stem out of that =>>> everything else comes second, including kde?) I am not trolling, i am asking because i feel i lack understanding of the matter.
[09:43] <eifzon> newest, 7.04
[09:43] <eifzon> fiesty
[09:43] <Ashex> stdin, ah, I thought that installed the kernel module itself
[09:43] <eifzon> i runned ubuntu two days ago and it worked perfectly
[09:44] <obsethryl> thanks
[09:44] <eifzon> with the drivers
[09:44] <stdin> eifzon: what graphics card do you have?
[09:44] <eifzon> asus geforce 7950 gt
[09:44] <eifzon> i may get nvidia-glx-new ?
[09:45] <Ashex> woo, time for the moment of truth
[09:45] <stdin> eifzon: try it
[09:46] <eifzon> shall i remove old one first? :P
[09:46] <obsethryl> any pov or comment regarding my previous posts guys?
[09:46] <stdin> eifzon: yeah
[09:47] <bobstro> obsethryl: you mean that kubuntu is a bastard child?
[09:47] <eifzon> stdin: i downloaded the new one, shall i do anything else now?
[09:48] <stdin> eifzon: make sure you have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed and run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" in konsole
[09:48] <stdin> eifzon: then restart the X server
[09:48] <obsethryl> bobstro: no, i cannot understand the intricacies of the statement ubuntu comes first and everything else comes out of it, i think it is meant as a pro - gnome thing
[09:48] <obsethryl> bobstro: this is why i am asking
[09:48] <obsethryl> i am a KDE user, using that in debian right now
[09:49] <ASmith42b> Which version of Java Virtual Machine am I running?
[09:49] <eifzon> so wierd, stdin it wont start
[09:50] <wargoth_> hi all
[09:50] <Ashex> hmm
[09:50] <Ashex> is it possible to add a flag to the grub entry to just hide it?
[09:50] <ASmith42b> Hello, wargoth_
[09:50] <Ashex> I want to hide the older kernel entry
[09:50] <stdin> eifzon: look for messages starting with EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:50] <eifzon> ok
[09:50] <obsethryl> bobstro: anything i am missing from his interviews?
[09:51] <wargoth_> i've downloaded the latest 7.04 dvd and want to upgrade from 6.10. But the dvd isn't kubuntu. it's ubuntu. what should i do?
[09:51] <stdin> ASmith42b: run "java -version" to find out
[09:51] <eifzon> stdin: (EE) No devices detected.
[09:51] <eifzon> :S
[09:51] <stdin> eifzon: try reconfiguring the X server "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:51] <mr_E> I've got a weird thing in my trashy-binny, it tells me that there is an old folder there which can't be removed, even though the trashbin is empty..
[09:52] <eifzon> stdin: what shall i edit there
[09:52] <obsethryl> wargoth_: install ubuntu, then do: apt-get update, then do: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, the guys can correct me if i am wrong
[09:52] <stdin> eifzon: use the default settings, except choose the "nvidia" driver, not the "nv" one
[09:52] <obsethryl> the above are done as root
[09:52] <ASmith42b> stdin: Thank you.
[09:53] <os2mac> having a problem with Knetworkmanager... it shows the wire connection not the wireless one and doesn't show available networks.
[09:53] <eifzon> stdin: oke :)
[09:53] <wargoth_> obsethryl: i'll last all my configs
[09:53] <mr_E> Get the error message: Could not read /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash//info/FOLDERNAME.trashinfo everytime I try to emtpy the trashbin now...
[09:53] <stdin> wargoth_: you know you don't need the DVD to upgrade, right?
[09:54] <ASmith42b> stdin: "java -version" only returned what packages java was in.
[09:54] <reydelsillon> How can i use adept manager as root? so i can easily install videolan?
[09:54] <wargoth_> stdin: sure, i just want it
[09:54] <wargoth_> stdin: ))
[09:54] <stdin> mr_E: try "sudo chown $(whoami):$(whoami) /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash//
[09:54] <obsethryl> hmm anyway i have to read better the shuttleworth postings, have fun everyone
[09:55] <mr_E> reydelsillon: apt-get install
[09:55] <stdin> mr_E: opps, that's "sudo chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash/"
[09:55] <wargoth_> please someone give me the sourcelist of feisty
[09:56] <reydelsillon> mr_e: i have the adpet program. the problem is that adept does not allow me to install new programs (as VideoLAN) because im not root. How do i enable adept as root?
[09:56] <stdin> wargoth_: it's the same as edgy or dapper, just replace all the words "dapper" (or "edgy") with "feisty"
[09:57] <eifzon> whoho, got it working now :))
[09:57] <wargoth_> stdin: ok. i'll try
[09:57] <snap> OMFG!!!! i crashed my cell phone lol
[09:57] <eifzon> stdin: thank you
[09:57] <snap> never done that before
[09:57] <stdin> reydelsillon: it should open as root anyway, try Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu adept_manager"
[09:57] <eifzon> stdin: i wonder if i shall stick to nvidia-glx-new or the nvidia-glx
[09:57] <mr_E> ericsson
[09:57] <snap> LMAO
[09:58] <snap> t-mobil nokia
[09:58] <stdin> eifzon: whatever works I suppose, it depends what nvidia do the the drivers
[09:58] <mr_E> reydelsillon: ....or su to another user and then sudo :)
[09:58] <eifzon> stdin: do you know whats BEST for me?
[09:58] <stdin> mr_E: you don't sudo a GUI
[09:59] <stdin> eifzon: if the -new one works, use that. it's the most up-to-date
[09:59] <mr_E> ericsson
[09:59] <mr_E> ah, sorry, to used to command :/
[09:59] <reydelsillon> stdin: i didn understand your instructions.
[09:59] <eifzon> ok stdin :))
[10:00] <benjamin_> hullo everyone. i've got a question about knetworkmanager (and just network-manager in general). is there a way to run a command after connecting to a network? like they have in wifi-radar
[10:00] <stdin> reydelsillon: press Alt-F2 (to open the Run dialog) and type in "kdesu adept_manager" as the command to run (without quotes)
[10:00] <eifzon> btw stdin, do i have to download any package to get my (Intel core 2 Duo) activated, or is it already? does it read that i got two processors?
[10:01] <stdin> eifzon: that's all handled by the kernel, and since dapper all kernels are SMP (which means it can use multiple CPUs and/or multiple cores)
[10:02] <stdin> eifzon: so nothing to do there, just enjoy :)
[10:02] <eifzon> aha, so it is loaded? :)
[10:02] <eifzon> (two) cores? :)
[10:02] <stdin> yeah
[10:02] <eifzon> goodie
[10:02] <stdin> automatically
[10:02] <eifzon> yey!
[10:02] <stdin> linux is good like that :)
[10:02] <eifzon> <3
[10:03] <reydelsillon> stdin: its up and go! thanks
[10:03] <stdin> :)
[10:04] <mr_E> How would I switch back the system language from FI to EN since it was wrongly installed during setup (not my doing though)..
[10:05] <stdin> mr_E: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Install new Language
[10:05] <mr_E> stdin: commandline?
[10:05] <Tm_T> !fi | mr_E
[10:05] <ubotu> mr_E: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:06] <Tm_T> stdin: he's mine
[10:06] <mr_E> Tm_T: Problem is the system is in FI and I don't understand it...so I need to get EN language in it ;)
[10:06] <stdin> Tm_T: I think you just install the language pack (language-pack-en)
[10:07] <roguejedix> Does anyone else have problems with their DVD-RWs? Mine just sopped working with Feisty
[10:07] <roguejedix> *stopped
[10:07] <Tm_T> mr_E: err, ok, well, as stdin said, open system settings (it's in menu)
[10:07] <mr_E> ericsson
[10:07] <mr_E> Tm_T: I don't have a GUI
[10:08] <Tm_T> mr_E: at all? wow
[10:08] <mr_E> Nope, running pure text ;)
[10:09] <mr_E> So the scandinavian ,,  looks a bit funny and besides, I don't understand finnish, so that's why I need english back on it (without re-installing obviously) :)
[10:09] <Tm_T> mr_E: ok, let me think...
[10:10] <reydelsillon> stdin: im following a guide: -Search for vlc and install it. You should also install vlc-plugin-esd, mozilla-plugin-vlc (and libdvdcss2). - That las lib file does noe apear on my adept manager. and it is alose set to take Universal repositories.
[10:10] <Tm_T> !language
[10:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:10] <Tm_T> agh, not that
[10:10] <mr_E> :)
[10:10] <hellblade> I upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?
[10:10] <mr_E> ericsson
[10:10] <Tm_T> stupid bot
[10:10] <beanie> ahhhhh whats from with kubuntu.org i want to test KDE4 :(
[10:10] <Tm_T> mr_E: why you're mentioning your name all the time?
[10:11] <beanie> s/from/wrong
[10:11] <Tm_T> beanie: there's nothing to test for users, unless you like to watch crashing crashdialogs
[10:11] <itch_> Hello guys. I`ve run into a bit of troubel. I`m trying to broadcast my webcam via webcam_server. I`ve configure it, but when I try to run it, I get "bind: Address already in use" . I also run an Apache server. Any hint about what should I do? Thanks.
[10:11] <mr_E> Tm_T: I don't know, not me writing it...
[10:11] <mr_E> honestly..
[10:11] <WillLuongo> Hello! The trash can icon disappeared when I upgraded to Fiesty. How can I get it back?
[10:11] <Tm_T> mr_E: interesting
[10:11] <beanie> Tm_T: thx4info
[10:12] <hellblade> WillLuongo: from desktop?
[10:12] <mr_E> Tm_T: To make it even more annoying; it beep's everytime my nickname is written as well ;)
[10:12] <WillLuongo> hellblade: It was on my task bar
[10:12] <Tm_T> snap: good luck :)
[10:13] <WillLuongo> snap: you won't regret it. :)
[10:13] <hellblade> WillLuongo: right click on taskbar> Add applet... > trash is there
[10:13] <jarn> After my upgrade to Feisty, X seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf file. Lots and lots of resolutions show in xrandr that aren't even IN my xorg.conf and it won't let me use the one I want to that IS in my xorg.conf.
[10:13] <roguejedix> snap: Don't forget to back your stuff up first
[10:13] <drkns> hello fellas
[10:13] <WillLuongo> hellblade: Thanks! That worked!
[10:13] <drkns> i need help
[10:13] <hellblade> WillLuongo: np;)
[10:13] <FeistyForge> jarn, that sounds wierd!
[10:13] <drkns> last night i have spent hours to install gimp
[10:14] <drkns> it went well and no errors come up and finished installing
[10:14] <snap> I got bleder and gimp and xara and and   the only thing I need to run in wine is Metatrader4
[10:14] <hellblade> drkns: hours? lol
[10:14] <jarn> FeistyForge: Indeed.
[10:14] <eifzon> whats the commando to install beryl in kubuntu fiesty 7.04 +
[10:14] <drkns> however i cannot find it anywhere it is not on the start menu under graphis
[10:14] <snap> blender
[10:14] <hellblade> eifzon: try #ubuntu-effects
[10:14] <drkns> hellblade the latest version not the one on kubuntu
[10:15] <snap> blender has come so far in the past 3 years.......so has linux
[10:15] <hellblade> drkns: ow sorry mate
[10:15] <stdin> reydelsillon: to install libdvdcss2 install "libdvdread3" then do "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"
[10:15] <drkns> no problem
[10:15] <eifzon> stdin: hey
[10:15] <roguejedix> drkns: I may be wrong, but I think only packages give you icons in the Kicker menus
[10:15] <drkns> snap linux have come along way believe me
[10:15] <drkns> i am swithing whole company to it
[10:15] <Eyeless> is there anyway to make ktorrent eat less cpu?
[10:15] <Ashex> Ha! Win!
[10:16] <hellblade> drkns: did you compile it from src on your own?
[10:16] <Tm_T> mr_E: ok, I'll find commands to you to make it clean and simple
[10:16] <Ashex> You can upgrade from dapper to feisty without breaking the system!
[10:16] <drkns> i have compiled on my own
[10:16] <mr_E> Tm_T: It's not this machine which has the problem, it's the one @ work which is a bit messed up ;)
[10:16] <drkns> last time i did it i have seen an icon on the kicker but not this time
[10:16] <hellblade> drkns: where did you install it? /usr or /usr/local?
[10:16] <mr_E> That one is Ubuntu 6.10 LTS, if that makes any difference
[10:17] <mr_E> Tm_T: I checked something from here: http://venda.uku.fi/tietotekniikka/linux/ks_cfg.shtml but didn't help at all :s
[10:17] <hellblade> drkns: i mean could it be /usr/local/bin/gimp?
[10:18] <hellblade> I upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?
[10:18] <mr_E> ericsson
[10:18] <drkns> let me check
[10:18] <snap> ok here goes booting my AMD 64 X2 laptop to linux   GOODBYE MISCROSOFT!!!!!
[10:19] <drkns> it is under usr/bin
[10:19] <drkns> usr/bin/gimp
[10:19] <stdin> yeah, /usr/bin/beryl-manager
[10:20] <eifzon> why cant i see my frames on my beryl? just installed it :|
[10:20] <hellblade> drkns: have you also installed the ubuntu gimp package or just your own?
[10:20] <ccherrett> i was updating my system to fiesty through adept but I forgot to plug in my laptop and it shutdown in the middle of the update. kubuntu still boots but the update is not resuming
[10:21] <ccherrett> can it be resumed
[10:21] <ccherrett> ?
[10:21] <ccherrett> I have tried to launch adept again but it does not try to update again
[10:21] <hellblade> ccherrett: try "sudo aptitude update", "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[10:21] <Tm_T> hmh
[10:22] <drkns> i have installed the gimp 2.3 the lates version not the one comes from the repos
[10:22] <ericsson> Tm_T: I've changed nickname and some settings, hopefully getting rid of that "spamming-of-own-nickname"
[10:22] <Tm_T> ericsson: can you open webpaces?
[10:22] <Tm_T> pages even
[10:22] <ericsson> Tm_T: sure, elinks makes wonders with that :)
[10:22] <Tm_T> true :)
[10:22] <Tm_T> ericsson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[10:22] <hellblade> drkns: ok. you can create a .desktop "shortcut" on your own
[10:23] <drkns> himm how am i going to do that?
[10:23] <Tm_T> ericsson: weird that I have totally forgotten how those language stuff goes in cli, it's been years since I needed those myself
[10:23] <ccherrett> hellblade: a bunch of errors reading package lists
[10:23] <drkns> let me search it on the google first
[10:23] <ericsson> GUI tends to makes heads mushier :)
[10:23] <drkns> thanks
[10:23] <hellblade> drkns: beware that because of the installation location you have chosen, that if you install the official package, it will overwrite your own
[10:24] <drkns> thanks for the heads up hellblade
[10:24] <hellblade> ccherrett: pastebin you /etc/apt/sources.list contents
[10:24] <drkns> i used this installer program and it has chosen that directory i havent
[10:24] <Tm_T> ericsson: well, I use KDE desktop to keep multiple console open... ;)
[10:24] <hellblade> drkns: do you need help creating the desktop file?
[10:24] <drkns> if its not a problem
[10:24] <ccherrett> hellblade: ah it looks like it is all fiesty stuff now
[10:25] <hellblade> drkns: right click on kmenu > Menu Editor
[10:25] <ericsson> Tm_T: Yeah, that works fine but you'd have to agree it's quite charming to google with elinks :)
[10:25] <hellblade> ccherrett: can I check your sources.list pls?
[10:25] <drkns> yup keep singing man
[10:25] <Tm_T> ericsson: hehe
[10:26] <Tm_T> ericsson: got it correctly now?
[10:26] <hellblade> drkns: open the grphics menu
[10:26] <ccherrett> hellblade: it was an ID-10-T error
[10:26] <ericsson> Tm_T: Seems like this could do the trick, thank's a million mate..
[10:26] <drkns> yup
[10:26] <ccherrett> hellblade: I did not have a network connection :)
[10:26] <Tm_T> ericsson: heh, it's my job to help :)
[10:26] <ccherrett> hellblade: the command is working now :0
[10:26] <hellblade> drkns: right click that menu > new item
[10:27] <hellblade> ccherrett: kk have fun with feisty:)
[10:27] <ccherrett> hellblade: thanks you!
[10:27] <ccherrett> thank you!
[10:27] <hellblade> drkns: type Gimp
[10:27] <drkns> done
[10:28] <hellblade>  drkns: command: gimp
[10:28] <ericsson> Tm_T: R you up for the task of explaining to me why my rsync-bakup through SSH tunnel doesn't work? :)
[10:28] <hellblade>  drkns: this should work now. you can choose an icon for that shortcut by clicking on the empty one
[10:28] <Tm_T> ericsson: rsync, never used; tunneling, never tried
[10:29] <Tm_T> ericsson: does that help? ;)
[10:29] <ericsson> Tm_T: Lucky bastard :)
[10:29] <Tm_T> doesn't feel like that ;(
[10:29] <ericsson> There are better things in this world to spend time on rather than trying to figure out how that works ;)
[10:29] <drkns> is it just enough to write gimp? because mine says gimp 2.3 ,        gimp console 2.3 and gimp remote
[10:30] <drkns> under usr/bin/
[10:31] <hellblade>  drkns: my shortcut uses "command: gimp-remote-2.2 " so i gues you can use "gimp-remote-2.3 " too
[10:31] <drkns> hellblade thank you very much now i have gimp 2.3.16 working i am learning kubuntu and it is far better than vista
[10:31] <hellblade>  drkns: ...and at list on my system that is a link to the real gimp executable
[10:32] <hellblade>  drkns:hehe never tried vista myself
[10:32] <ericsson> drkns: you are wise :)
[10:32] <drkns> me either heheh but it seems another multi patched multi hole thing as usual with eyecandy
[10:33] <hellblade>  drkns: as long as my games run on XP i wont upgrade. btw i play only two games one of wich only under linux (city of heroes)
[10:33] <ericsson> Anyone ever tried to buy a computer with pre-installed Windows and explaining to the shopowner that you refuse to pay for Windows since you won't be using it?
[10:33] <drkns> i used to play games but hey i am wise and old c
[10:34] <hellblade>  drkns: in mycountry (greece) they charge for windows but you can always get a pc without os. some shops even give linux if you get one this way
[10:34] <drkns> now here is another challenge
[10:34] <gekkoo> hellblade: if the games require directx 10 you'll have to switch to vista i think :-)
[10:34] <hellblade> gekkoo: not if DX10 support in wine gets good enough. then I will install wine under xp:P
[10:35] <drkns> here in Turkey new pcs comes with preloaded xp etc but they are all pirated
[10:35] <drkns> linux is good
[10:35] <drkns> so far
[10:35] <drkns> i also need to see and use my second hard drive installed
[10:35] <ericsson> drkns: so how does all that windows wga crap work then? Probably not I'd guess...
[10:35] <stdin> ericsson: someone got a "refund" from dell doing that
[10:35] <gekkoo> instead of pirated discs, they should come with free linuxes :-)
[10:35] <hellblade> drkns: lol. smaller shops pirate windows all over the world. big "chains" dont
[10:36] <drkns> indeed gekkoo
[10:36] <drkns> who needs a windoz anyway now we have kubuntu
[10:36] <ericsson> stdin: yeah, I read about that, but it was like a few months of fighting until they caved in and gave the guy his money...the only reason was because he did not press F8 and by that he had not "signed" a contract with MS
[10:37] <gekkoo> drkns: people who want to play games need to use windows :-P
[10:37] <ericsson> gekkoo: or grow up :)
[10:37] <stdin> ericsson: it wasn't exactly a refund tho, it was a good will gesture
[10:37] <gekkoo> of course
[10:37] <ericsson> There is always Mine on linux as well ;)
[10:37] <Tm_T> gekkoo: hmm, then why I play games in Linux
[10:37] <drkns> dont wory in the near future we will see the very same games working with linux
[10:38] <gekkoo> when I quit playing, I switched to linux :-P
[10:38] <stdin> gekkoo: there are some great opensource linux games too
[10:38] <snap> in addittion to ridding myself of windows......i get rid oof all the hacked lighwve XSI MAY 3ds stuff...........i feel so clean!
[10:38] <Doctor_Nick> has anyone played with sdlmame on linux?
[10:38] <hellblade> gekkoo: there are many reasons to keep using windows other than games. many propriatary and specialized software is only available there:(
[10:38] <Doctor_Nick> SDLmame runs rather slow on my computer and i dont know why :/
[10:38] <gekkoo> hellblade: yes, that's an important point
[10:38] <ericsson> hellblade: One good reason to keep Windows is if you like your personal collection of gathered viruses
[10:38] <gekkoo> stdin: I know, but the mainstream games only work properly on windows
[10:39] <snap> you guys got to help me get the wireless going.....
[10:39] <stdin> gekkoo: try stratagus it's a really good linux gamw
[10:39] <drkns> howabout all the patches that slows and slows down the windoz
[10:39] <stdin> !info stratagus
[10:39] <ubotu> stratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[10:39] <snap> i understand its a pain w/ this particular laptop
[10:40] <hellblade> ericsson: sorry for being the devil's advocate here but I have had only twice in my life a virus. I just pay attention to what I click and download ..and never used outlook (which should be "lookout virus coming" !)
[10:40] <stdin> snap: what laptop and what wireless card/chipset ?
[10:40] <snap> the one im currently on had wiFi working out of the box on live cd
[10:40] <ericsson> so you never had DoS attacks which infected your Win system?
[10:41] <MrWGW> I don't suppose there is an easy process for upgrading to 2.6.21?
[10:41] <MrWGW> on the kernel
[10:41] <snap> stdin: its a CQ Presario V3000 with a "Dell 1390"
[10:41] <stdin> MrWGW: nope, you just have to compile and install it
[10:41] <hellblade> ericsson: nope. i always had a software firewall running and after i got broadband my linux server/router/firewall protected my network:P
[10:41] <MrWGW> oh its that simple?
[10:42] <hellblade> ericsson: and no antivirus
[10:42] <snap> AMD 64 x2 1.8ghz i think
[10:42] <ericsson> hellblade: hoho, you are living on the edgy edge of the edge my friend...odds are not on your side, are they? ;)
[10:43] <gekkoo> MrWGW: it's not easy for a beginner. is there a feature which you really need on the new kernel?
[10:43] <chad_> hello all.  Noob here, just installed Kubuntu and wanted to stop in and say hi
[10:43] <hellblade> ericsson: you mean i used to... I've been using linux for anything but games for the last 3-4 years
[10:43] <MrWGW> well I'm not a beginner
[10:43] <MrWGW> I've just never replaced kernels before
[10:43] <MrWGW> but 2.6.21 has improved virtualization support
[10:43] <drkns> hey chad
[10:43] <ericsson> chad_: Hi and welcome..
[10:43] <hellblade> chad_: wc aboard mate!
[10:43] <chad_> thanks all
[10:43] <MrWGW> however, my fear is that if I upgrade, I'll break the drivers, which would render this Mac Mini installed system unusable
[10:43] <MrWGW> since it relies on mucho proprietary drivers
[10:43] <chad_> looking forward to this new adventure...getting sick of Windows
[10:44] <MrWGW> Windows is actually a good OS
[10:44] <MrWGW> IMO
[10:44] <MrWGW> XP is anyway
[10:44] <MrWGW> but XP is also creaky and dated
[10:44] <MrWGW> Vista is terrible...and OS X is pathetic
[10:44] <MrWGW> hence my replacement of it with Linux
[10:44] <chad_> I'm just tired of the all the bloat
[10:44] <ericsson> hellblade: you are as wise as your are cleaver...no need to infect your workstations with windows ever again...
[10:44] <Daisuke_Ido> windows is a good os?  what are you smoking, i want some.
[10:44] <MrWGW> XP isn't bloated IMO, actually rather minimalistic
[10:44] <gekkoo> MrWGW: then just keep the old kernel, and compile the new one with make-kpkg :-)
[10:44] <hellblade> MrWGW: don't remove your current ernel until you make sure that the new one works
[10:44] <MrWGW> right
[10:45] <MrWGW> is the new kernel in the repos or do I have to download it seperately?
[10:45] <ericsson> MrWGW: XP not bloated? There are remains from Win98 in there..
[10:45] <drkns> ok fellas time to help me again
[10:45] <snap> Ubuntu almost installed ill add the Kubuntu and Xbuntu after i get it all nice
[10:45] <MrWGW> left in for backwards compatibility, which at the time was a much bigger deal than it was today
[10:45] <stdin> snap: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=broadcom+howto
[10:45] <MrWGW> remember, when XP came out, most people were still USING 98
[10:45] <hellblade> drkns: bring it on
[10:45] <drkns> i have installed and formatted as ext3 my second internal hardrive and want to use it but again cant find it
[10:45] <MrWGW> since Win2k never caught on outside of the large enterprise
[10:46] <gekkoo> MrWGW: you need to download it from kernel.org. it's not in the repos yet
[10:46] <MrWGW> ok
[10:46] <chad_> guys, is there a minimum spec you want on a video card before attempting beryl?
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> realistically, XP SP2 was the closest MS got to getting it "right"
[10:46] <drkns> it is active by the way
[10:46] <MrWGW> and then do I do a ./configure, make and make install on it?
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> chad_: the ability to do direct rendering
[10:46] <demosthenes_> i had some problems with the geforce 5200  :P
[10:46] <MrWGW> or what is the correct proceedure for installing it without replacing 2.6.20
[10:47] <stdin> MrWGW: no, compiling a kernel is a bit different
[10:47] <ericsson> drkns: look inside your machine :) So, seriously...try df -h and see if it's even there..
[10:47] <stdin> !kernel
[10:47] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:47] <hellblade> drkns: do you know how it is connected to your mobo? sata or ide?
[10:47] <stdin> MrWGW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:47] <orient> hello
[10:47] <orient> I installed kubuntu 7.04
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> orient: so did i!
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[10:47] <gekkoo> nice :-)
[10:47] <MrWGW> perfect
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> carry on
[10:47] <maximilien> yes
[10:47] <orient> I installed some packages using adept
[10:47] <orient> and now I've got a problem
[10:48] <drkns> it is ide
[10:48] <MrWGW> I actually used Ubuntu as the base install, and then added Kubuntu-Desktop via Synaptic
[10:48] <MrWGW> since the Ubuntu CD is smaller
[10:48] <MrWGW> if Xubuntu actually had mirrors for Feisty, I would've used it, as it was smaller yet
[10:48] <orient> in adept, the packages I installed are checked
[10:48] <drkns> i did df -h and only one drive is there
[10:48] <orient> and all the others are disabled
[10:48] <maximilien> i've a problem, my screen run bad with ubuntu
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> adept_installer
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> not adept_manager
[10:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking
[10:48] <snap> stdin: bcm43x are the default drivers they apperntly wont work....i need to do the NDisswrapper  route
[10:48] <ericsson> drkns: is your drive even detected in the BIOS?
[10:48] <hellblade> drkns: do you know its place on the cable? primary slave etc?
[10:48] <drkns> himm gnome partition editor sees it thoug
[10:48] <snap> its doable but a pain
[10:48] <stdin> orient: df only shows mounted partitions
[10:48] <MrWGW> IMO its actually a bad idea to install from the Kubuntu CD unless you're really short on HD space or have a slow internet connection
[10:48] <orient> Daisuke_Ido: what do you mean?
[10:49] <maximilien> x
[10:49] <snap> for me at least
[10:49] <maximilien> x64
[10:49] <hellblade> ericsson: he said he formated it to ext3
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> orient: just keeping a record in my head
[10:49] <maximilien> swap
[10:49] <orient> I used ad/remove programs
[10:49] <drkns> in my windoz days these were two driver in raid 0 on this laptop so i believe theyare at cable select mode
[10:49] <hellblade> drkns: which /dev/hdX is it then?
[10:49] <drkns> drive is there in bios
[10:49] <snap> ok Ubuntu is all on now...first reboot
[10:49] <ericsson> hellblade: sorry, my brain is a bit slow now, it's 'bout midnight and been staaaaring at a command line since 07:00 :)
[10:50] <chad_> i'm off to do some experimenting with the new OS....i'm sure I'll be back for help
[10:50] <chad_> take care everyone
[10:50] <hellblade> ericsson: loool
[10:50] <ericsson> drkns: Are there entries in your /etc/fstab for the drive?
[10:50] <snap> dual core 64 linux W))T!!!!!
[10:50] <snap> err W00T!!
[10:50] <drkns> ups
[10:50] <drkns> it is dev/hdg1
[10:51] <hellblade> drkns: is it listed in fstab?
[10:51] <ericsson> drkns: that's an interesting one ;)
[10:51] <drkns> looking for it
[10:51] <hellblade> drkns: try "cat /etc/fstab | grep hdg"
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> orient: so...  what exactly is the problem?
[10:52] <stdin> hellblade: or "grep hdg /etc/fstab" :p
[10:52] <orient> I cannot install anymore programs
[10:52] <drkns> nope there is no entry in that file
[10:52] <orient> they are greyed
[10:52] <orient> disabled
[10:52] <orient> in add/remove programs
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd
[10:52] <hellblade> stdin: sry I'm the cat guy:)
[10:52] <snap> whats default user and pass? please? i never got chance to set one
[10:53] <orient> yes, indeed
[10:53] <snap> wtf?
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> snap: then you didn't install ubuntu.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> it asks when you install.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> if it didn't, you screwed up
[10:53] <Cugel> In any case: there _is_ no default.
[10:53] <hellblade> drkns: create a mount point for it in /media(eg "sudo mkdir /media/my_partituon")
[10:53] <Pete__> any idea whats going on with the kubuntu site?
[10:53] <Cugel> But can't he use safe mode and then set a password?
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> i suppose it's possible
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> but there's no root account
[10:54] <hellblade> drkns: then edit /etc/fstab as root
[10:54] <snap> grr well reboot i forgot pass.....although it was just a single space
[10:54] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: there is in recovery mode
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> and if, somehow, he actually DOESN'T have a username and password set, then i dunno what he could do at that point
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: i stand corrected :)
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> well, actually, i SIT corrected, but anyway...
[10:55] <drkns> hellblade what am i going to put in there?
[10:55] <hellblade> drkns: and add this line in there "/dev/hdg1       /media/my_partituon   ext3    user,defaults           0       0"
[10:56] <snap> i do have to admit to having a half dozen beers in me lol
[10:56] <hellblade> drkns: save it and exit. then go to a console and run (as simple user) "mount /media/my_partition"
[10:56] <drkns> i did
[10:56] <hellblade> drkns: this should work
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> "simple user"?
[10:57] <hellblade> Daisuke_Ido: not root. sry but english is not my primary language
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, fair enough.  i think the term you were looking for was superuser (sudo)
[10:57] <chemist109> no, he means unpriviledged user
[10:57] <drkns> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:57] <drkns> mount: can't find /media/Home-2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:57] <snap> yeah its asking for a user and all i did was name laptop snapAMD and set "space" as a password someewhere
[10:57] <snap> its ok ill just reinstall
[10:58] <snap> ive got 5 other machines to mess with and do what i need to do,.....this just my newest
[10:58] <stdin> drkns: just ass a new line to the end of the file and save again
[10:58] <hellblade> drkns: did you replace "my_partition" with "Home-2" after copy pasting in fstab?
[10:58] <ericsson> Is there a current bug in feisty that crashed terminals when doing "grep -r rootpassword /var" ?
[10:59] <ericsson> crashed* = crashes
[10:59] <drkns> mount: /dev/hdg1 already mounted or /media/Home-2 busy
[10:59] <drkns> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdg1 is already mounted on /media/Home-2
[10:59] <galathalion> how do you check what dist u have in a terminal
[10:59] <snap> ahhh ok it DID NOT LIKE THE uuppercase AMD
[10:59] <drkns> i have corrected those mistakes and now it says this
[10:59] <snap> all sett
[10:59] <Daisuke_Ido> snap: no, usernames must be all lowercase
[11:00] <snap> ;) thx for the tip.....
[11:00] <hellblade> drkns: it looks like its mounted. go in there and see if there are any files
[11:00] <galathalion> pls?
[11:00] <Cugel> uname -a
[11:00] <drkns> where is it i cant see it it feels stupid and i am afraid i look stupid
[11:00] <bimberi> !version
[11:00] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:01] <hellblade> drkns: from console "ls -l /media/Home-2"
[11:01] <snap> ok i guess i should wire it up to make the wireless upgrade go smoother
[11:01] <orient> Daisuke_Ido: it's back to normal
[11:01] <orient> I think there were some upates available
[11:01] <hellblade> drkns: and nope! you are not stupid. just new:P
[11:01] <galathalion> thnx
[11:01] <orient> and it didn' tlet me install anything else beforehand
[11:01] <snap> i can just sudo get what ever i need
[11:01] <drkns> total 16
[11:01] <drkns> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-04-26 03:35 lost+found
[11:02] <drkns> this is what comes up
[11:02] <hellblade> drkns: or you can browse there in a file browser window
[11:02] <drkns> yup i am new
[11:02] <drkns> can i create an icon for it just like home??
[11:02] <hellblade> drkns: ok. its mounted
[11:03] <hellblade> drkns: you can "cd /media/Home-2", "touch a_file", "ls -l a_file"
[11:03] <hellblade> drkns: this should list a 0byte size file
[11:03] <Tm_T> galathalion: cat /etc/issue
[11:03] <Tm_T> galathalion: in Konsole
[11:03] <drkns> bash: cd: /media/Home-2, touch: No such file or directory
[11:04] <drkns> it gave this
[11:04] <hellblade> drkns: each "TEXT" is a different command
[11:04] <Arwen> my image collection is kinda getting outta hand... anyone recommend a photo manager?
[11:04] <hellblade> drkns: paste it without the "
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: digikam
[11:05] <chemist109> drkns: do this: cd /media/Home-2 && touch a_file && ls -l a_file
[11:05] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, hmm.... I'm using that at the moment... can't get it to show image resolution though
[11:05] <hellblade> chemist109: that too:)
[11:05] <Arwen> any others?
[11:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...  maybe picasa?
[11:05] <chemist109> I like picasa
[11:05] <Arwen> hmm, no, not Picasa
[11:05] <drkns> ouch: invalid option -- l
[11:06] <hellblade> drkns: btw where do you want the shortcut?
[11:06] <hellblade> drkns: desktop?
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> f-spot
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> bout the only other one i know of with any exposure
[11:06] <drkns> chemist it says i have no permission and whan i use sudo it says unknown command cd
[11:06] <drkns> desktop would be fine
[11:06] <hellblade> drkns: right click on desktop > new > link to location
[11:07] <gekkoo> Arwen: I found kphotomanager, but I didnt try it :-)
[11:07] <Arwen> gekkoo, thanks, I'll take a look
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i know in windows i was rather fond of acdsee 8
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> but that doesn't help me much now :\
[11:07] <hellblade> drkns: file name: anything you want, URL: /media/Home-2
[11:07] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me the difference between Qemu and Wine?
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> good thing i don't collect images anymore >_>
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> fakepatriot: Qemu is an emulator, wine is a compatibility layer
[11:08] <chemist109> drkns: does it show up under df -h
[11:08] <drkns> yep i have it now on the desktop
[11:08] <jarn> How do I find out what version of the nvidia drivers I have installed?
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> moret echnical: Qemu is for running another OS in a virtual environment, wine is for running windows applications under your current linux environment
[11:08] <fakepatriot> Daisuke_Ido:  thought Wine was an emulator
[11:08] <stdin> fakepatriot: qemu is an x86 emulator, wine is not an emulatot
[11:08] <eifzon> how do i do to get beryl autostart when starting kubuntu?
[11:08] <drkns> yes it shows up now
[11:08] <jarn> !nvidia
[11:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:08] <hellblade> fakepatriot: qemu is much slower and i think requires a windows installation while wine is much faster but doesnt support much software
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, wine is an implementation of the win32 APIs
[11:08] <stdin> fakepatriot: Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE)
[11:09] <drkns> thak you very much fellas
[11:09] <drkns> wife calls
[11:09] <stdin> !autostart | eifzon
[11:09] <fakepatriot> stdin: i thiought wine stood for Windows Emulator
[11:09] <drkns> pardon me my faboulous wife
[11:09] <ubotu> eifzon: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[11:09] <hellblade> drkns: bb mate
[11:09] <drkns> i sure will hellblade take care
[11:09] <Daisuke_Ido> can tell who wears the apnts in that family :D
[11:10] <hellblade> fakepatriot: wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[11:10] <stdin> fakepatriot: nope, check out the home page http://winehq.org
[11:10] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, the apnts?
[11:10] <drkns> lol
[11:10] <drkns> its me
[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> the pants, i typed that too fast :P
[11:10] <chemist109> Daisuke_Ido: Your pants are on the wrong legs!
[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> chemist109: i feel like kris kross :\
[11:11] <chemist109> Daisuke_Ido: :)
[11:11] <ericsson> How would I close down ports, one by one?
[11:11] <hellblade> I upgraded from edgy > feisty but the new "icon launch effect" (zooming of icon upon activation) doesn't work. do you know which file holds this setting?
[11:12] <fakepatriot> stdin: so what would you recommend i do? i want to use either one for games and photoshop.
[11:12] <SmL9> how can i modify files on a windows hd from linux?
[11:12] <hellblade> ericsson: the right direction is to close down everything and then open ports one by one
[11:12] <stdin> ericsson: kill the app that's listening on the port
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> games and photoshop?  forget qemu
[11:12] <calilasseia> Hello ... I have a minor problem ...
[11:12] <gekkoo> oh, as hellblade mentioned that effect, how can I disable that? :-)
[11:12] <ericsson> hellblade: I only have three ports I want to close
[11:12] <chemist109> fakepatriot: Use Cedega for games
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> no 3d with qemu
[11:13] <calilasseia> I can mount floppies in the command shell, but Konqueror doesn't want to know ....
[11:13] <ericsson> stdin: The apps are running on new ports, but the old ports are still open (for some reason)
[11:13] <Arwen> SmL9, with ntfs-3g
[11:13] <fakepatriot> chemist109: i tried but i can't get the cvs version to install...
[11:13] <Daisuke_Ido> !ntfs | SmL9
[11:13] <ubotu> SmL9: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:13] <stdin> fakepatriot: try wine first, if that doesn't work then you'll need an emulator (virtual machine) which needs a full install of windows
[11:13] <hellblade> ericsson: i'm not that good with iptables so i cant help you. but there are GUI firewall programs that might be what you need
[11:14] <chemist109> fakepatriot: I use the ($5/month) packaged version.  It's worth it for the few Windows games that I play
[11:14] <ericsson> hellblade: haven't got GUI though..
[11:14] <calilasseia> Can someone tell me why the command shell mounts floppies succesfully but Konqueror doesn't?
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh, installing f-spot installs half of gnome with it :\
[11:14] <ericsson> Anyway ppl, I'm off for some Zzz's, take care all...
[11:15] <hellblade> ericsson: you dont have a desktop enviroment or a firewall gui?
[11:15] <fakepatriot> stdin: ok thanks for the help :)
[11:15] <calilasseia> The weird part is it mounts my hard drives no problem .... just won't work with floppies ....
[11:15] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, well, I already have GNOME :-)
[11:15] <Arwen> the mono is what annoys me
[11:15] <fakepatriot> chemist109: ill consider it...thanks
[11:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i was talking about me :P
[11:15] <ericsson> hellblade: nope, just command line
[11:15] <hellblade> ericsson: then do some googling for iptables
[11:16] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, hehe, it's ok... tries to force you to use it's directory structure
[11:16] <Arwen> and its tagging sucks
[11:16] <ericsson> hellblade: been doing that, no joy..but I'll give it a new try tomorrow, thank's for the help anyway mate...nighty night
[11:16] <hellblade> ericsson: gnite man
[11:18] <hellblade> is there any kubuntu developer in here?
[11:20] <stdin> hellblade: ask in #kubuntu-devel
[11:21] <jhutchins_wk> Ah crud.  Distribution upgrade hangs on source file 41 of 44.
[11:21] <chemist109> hellblade:  look here ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and set VisualActivate=1 (under the [KDE]  section) You will probably have to log out and back in.
[11:21] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know why my edgy/kde is not working so well... when the screensaver goes on by itself, after idleness, and i have the option to lock afte 60 seconds, the screensaver never does! if one moves the mouse, the screensaver just stops, and the session is right there again...
[11:22] <crackhead_25> *option selected
[11:22] <hellblade> chemist109: gonna try that right now
[11:23] <crackhead_25> chemist109: any thoughts on my question?
[11:24] <chemist109> crackhead_25: Nope, I don't know.  You could try using ctrl-alt-L to lock the session whenever you leave the desk.
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> figures, where's arwen when you need him or her
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> found the setting in digikam to do exactly what he was looking for
[11:29] <hellblade> chemist109: the setting in kdeglobals did the job! thanks mate
[11:30] <chemist109> hellblade: No problem! Glad it worked!
[11:30] <hellblade> chemist109: i've been looking for that for the last 5 days:)
[11:31] <calilasseia> OK, still having problems mounting floppies in Konqueror ... anyone care to help?
[11:31] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[11:31] <hellblade> calilasseia: i dont have a floppy on my pc but anywayz how did you try to mount it from konqy?
[11:31] <jmreyen> hillup
[11:32] <hellblade> hya
[11:32] <chemist109> hellblade: I'm glad that fixed it.  Now, go help someone else install Kubuntu!
[11:32] <calilasseia> When Konqueror starts up it has a link to "media:/" ... click that and you get a page of icons for devices ....
[11:32] <NetSKaVeN> anyone using feisty's konversation?
[11:32] <calilasseia> If I click on an icon for one of my hard drives, it mounts no problem ....
[11:32] <chemist109> NetSKaVeN: I'm using it right now.
[11:32] <Cugel> net: yes, I am.
[11:32] <hellblade> chemist109: i have already converted one:) i even setup his network and beryl stuff
[11:33] <calilasseia> But if I click on the floppy icon, it comes up with a blank page ....
[11:33] <chemist109> hellblade: Good work!
[11:33] <calilasseia> Refresh the page and it says "/dev/fd0 already mounted"
[11:33] <NetSKaVeN> does cursor up work for you in konversation?
[11:33] <Cugel> Yes.
[11:33] <chemist109> NetSKaVeN: I'm using it right now. (yup)
[11:33] <NetSKaVeN> I have a problem then  :P
[11:34] <calilasseia> I checked fstab and the mount line for the floppy drive looks OK ...
[11:34] <calilasseia> And what's even weirder is that I can mount the floppy in a terminal and read/write to it no problem ...
[11:34] <hellblade> calilasseia: is there a directory "/media/floppy" on your system? anything in there?
[11:35] <calilasseia> Ah that could be it ...
[11:35] <calilasseia> My icon is labelled "floppy0" ....
[11:35] <calilasseia> Hang on I'll rename it and see what happens ....
[11:35] <hellblade> calilasseia: not sure if thats a problem
[11:35] <Cugel> Don't just rename it.
[11:35] <Cugel> Make it point to the right location.
[11:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:36] <calilasseia> Well it's pointing to the right device - /dev/fd0 ....
[11:36] <hellblade> calilasseia: yap. what comand do you use from konsole?
[11:36] <jhutchins_wk> Doesn't seem to be able to get edgy security Release.gpg.
[11:36] <calilasseia> In a terminal I use "mount /dev/fd0" and it works ....
[11:37] <hellblade> jhutchins_wk: try changing your mirrors to another location. eg de or gb
[11:37] <hellblade> calilasseia: and where does that mount it?
[11:37] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: Do you do that as a user or as root?
[11:37] <calilasseia> mounts it to /media/floppy0
[11:38] <calilasseia> do it as a user not root ....
[11:38] <calilasseia> fstab mount line is set for user permissions on floppy device ....
[11:39] <hellblade> calilasseia: can you make sure the floppy is not mounted and retry the konqy way?
[11:39] <calilasseia> fstab line looks like this:
[11:39] <calilasseia> OK trying now ....
[11:39] <jhutchins_wk> Crud.  I can access the key with html...
[11:40] <calilasseia> Right, floppy is unmounted ...
[11:40] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, here we go into the updater, file 37 of 41...
[11:40] <calilasseia> Click on the icon, and again, page is blank ... no files appear ...
[11:40] <jhutchins_wk> 38
[11:40] <hellblade> calilasseia: do you get the "already mounted" msg again?
[11:41] <hommi-33> are you really still using floppy disks? omg
[11:41] <calilasseia> "Already mounted" message appears if I refresh the page ....
[11:41] <Cugel> I ditched the floppy drive. That does help.
[11:41] <calilasseia> Heh some of us have legacy data to transfer to more modern media :)
[11:42] <jhutchins_wk> 41 - his is where it hung last time.
[11:42] <hellblade> calilasseia: hmmm i have no idea. but do you use floppy frequantly enough so that manualy mounting it is a problem?
[11:42] <calilasseia> Well the problem is I can't browse the floppy in Konqueror, but Konqueror lets me browse my hard drives and CD writer no problem ...
[11:42] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: What happens if you right click the icon (when the floppy's unmounted)?
[11:42] <calilasseia> Ah hang on ....
[11:43] <jhutchins_wk> ...still on 41...
[11:43] <hellblade> calilasseia: manualy mount the floppy and then browse in the /media mount point from konqy
[11:43] <calilasseia> I get a menu when I right click ....
[11:44] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: Does it offer "mount"?
[11:44] <calilasseia> Yes ...
[11:45] <calilasseia> I select mount and the dialogue box pops up saying "Mounting ..."
[11:45] <Intangir> how do i get k3b to create audio CDs from mp3 source files?
[11:45] <calilasseia> But then when I hover over the icon it says the floppy isn't mounted ....
[11:46] <Yorokobi> Intangir, the source audio needs to be .wav files (unless the process has changed recently).
[11:46] <chemist109> Intangir: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[11:46] <Intangir> thx
[11:46] <calilasseia> The details in the Konqueror address bar are a bit weird too ....
[11:47] <calilasseia> When I click on the icon it says "media:/fd0"
[11:47] <Alonea> Ok, I have an mp4 file with some x264 encoding. It takes a bit of work to get it to play in Mplayer, and that is the only player so far that will play it, but it isn't reading the file correctly. For the last 15 minutes the sound is completely off track and if I try to fast  forward during that portion it just skips back to the beginning of the video. The people on windows can play the file...
[11:47] <Alonea> ...perfectly. How do I play it perfectly?
[11:47] <calilasseia> Weird part is is I open a new tab and point it at "/media/floppy0" my files appear ...
[11:48] <calilasseia> So I'm starting to think I need to change something in Konqueror to get it to point to the right place when I click the icon ...
[11:48] <chemist109> Alonea: Did you try using VLC?  It's a good player for quirky files.
[11:49] <calilasseia> Are there configuration files for Konqueror that allow me to edit these details?
[11:49] <Alonea> chemist109: don't have VLC. Can I get it from adept or do I have to compile myself?
[11:49] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: symlink.  media:/fd0 and media:/floppy0 point to the same /dev/
[11:49] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: Usually /dev/fd0 and /dev/floppy (or floppy0) are linked as well.
[11:50] <chemist109> Alonea: sudo apt-get install vlc should do it.
[11:50] <jhutchins_wk> calilasseia: You can explore the /dev tree to see what device it "really" is.
[11:50] <hellblade> calilasseia: nope. the media:/ is something more complicated than just a shortcut to your mount point
[11:50] <orazio> italia
[11:50] <Yorokobi> !it | orazio
[11:50] <ubotu> orazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:50] <calilasseia> Ah right ...
[11:51] <hellblade> calilasseia: but you might be able to browse to /media and then right click floppy and mount it
[11:51] <orazio> cht ita
[11:51] <calilasseia> Hmm this is weird ... "media:/floppy0" returns "Malfformed URL"
[11:52] <tshaby> .
[11:52] <calilasseia> Is there any way I can delete that icon and replace it with one that contains the correct mount point information?
[11:52] <tshaby> :)
[11:52] <hellblade> calilasseia: media:/ uses /dev/xxx (devices) while /media/XXXXXX is the mount point
[11:52] <hellblade> calilasseia: no
[11:52] <tshaby> hy all linux user :)
[11:52] <calilasseia> Bugger ...
[11:52] <calilasseia> Means I'm stuck with trying to create a workaround ....
[11:53] <jhutchins_wk> Strange, we are now 40 of 43.
[11:53] <calilasseia> That's the weird part ... doing ls /dev/fd0 in a terminal lists the files ...
[11:53] <hellblade> calilasseia: i would suggest you to post a bug report in launchpad (is this the right place for kubuntu bugs?) or the kubuntuforums.net
[11:53] <jhutchins_wk> Ah, good old windows 98 style dynamic hardare configuration - never boot the same system twice!
[11:53] <calilasseia> Hmm ...
[11:54] <calilasseia> Might give that a try then ....
[11:54] <jhutchins_wk> Now we're back to 41 of 44.
[11:54] <jhutchins_wk> I think I'll close everythign and leave the upgrader running.
[11:54] <hellblade> calilasseia: that could help you solve your problem and anyone else for that matter
[11:54] <calilasseia> Kubuntu forums here I come then :)
[11:55] <calilasseia> Er, would getting the latest upgrade potentially cure this?
[11:55] <tshaby> van itt magyar? :)
[11:55] <calilasseia> Only my OS is in need of an update ....
[11:55] <hellblade> calilasseia: if you use feisty there is nothing newer, not yet
[11:55] <jhutchins_wk> later folks.
[11:55] <calilasseia> Still running dear old Dapper :)
[11:55] <hellblade> bb
[11:56] <hellblade> calilasseia: omg:) one of my roommates uses dapper because of the stability it offers
[11:56] <calilasseia> And I had all manner of fun and games getting that to work with a creaky old Radeon graphics card ...
[11:56] <calilasseia> But that's a LONG story :)
[11:57] <aroo> !info kxsldbg
[11:57] <ubotu> kxsldbg: graphical XSLT debugger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 595 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[11:57] <hellblade> calilasseia: i think you cant upgrade directly from dapper to feisty. i'd advise you to install from scratch after backing up you confs
[11:58] <Alonea> chemist109: VLC plays it perfectly. yay!
[11:58] <calilasseia> Oh I was simply thinking of getting the latest Dapper upgrades ...
[11:58] <jthomas> does anyone know how to 'fix' bash sh that, if I run 'df' and keep running it by using the Up Arrow, that I would only have to hit Up Arrow twice to get to the previous command?  Currently it keeps each itieration of the same command as its own, so i have to Up Arrow through 'df' a dozen times (df is an example, but whatever command I choose)
[12:00] <calilasseia> Think it's a bit early for me to launch into the world of Feisty just yet ....
[12:00] <chemist109> calilasseia: I'm on feisty-- I really like it.
[12:00] <jthomas> chemist109:
[12:01] <chemist109> The only issue I have is that I can't hear sound preview by hovering over the files in konqueror.
[12:01] <jthomas> chemist109: do you feel its as stable?  i've had a ton of crashing going on...
[12:01] <calilasseia> OK, I created a desktop icon link for the floppy drive ... click on that and hey presto it mounts, opens Konqueror, points Konqueror at the correct place, displays my files ... :)
[12:01] <chemist109> I've been running it since the late beta.  It's worked fine for me.
[12:01] <calilasseia> Not only that but OpenOffice opens old Word 97 documents too !!!!
[12:02] <jthomas> chemist109: yes my work computer has herd5 and its infinitly more stable than my home install...
[12:02] <traampaa> Hello. I has a problem. When i using Adept packet manager and after it i run program like Amarok or other, they loading, loading and hiding from me. But when i restart computer i see them in the traybar. Wtf is this? Is it bug? Please help. I whant to stay in kubuntu..
[12:03] <fignew> calilasseia: I'm running dapper on one of me desktops... it rocks :) 160 day uptime now
[12:03] <calilasseia> Oh just got a message - 73 updatable packages ...
[12:03] <calilasseia> Have to bug out of here and update ... bye :)
[12:03] <hellblade> bb
[12:04] <czer323> What's the best way to run a program at startup?
[12:04] <hellblade> traampaa: when you close your pc open apps are saved in your session which is loaded next time you boot
[12:04] <czer323> Not just a session, but at the kdm
[12:05] <chemist109> czer323: add it to /etc/rc.local
[12:05] <jthomas> czer323: put it in your /home/czer/.autostart directory
[12:05] <jthomas> or /home/czer/.kde/Autostart maybe, or listen to chemist109
[12:05] <czer323> putting it in the home, would just be starting at the session, right?
[12:05] <jthomas> ok i am off, see yas!
[12:05] <hellblade> yeah
[12:05] <czer323> i think /etc/rc.local sounds better.
[12:05] <hellblade> bye
 No! i mean i run program. but i can use it when i restart computer. And its not good for me. And its happend when i start Adept.
[12:06] <ko12upt> wrong channel
[12:06] <ko12upt> lol
[12:06] <czer323> chemist109: just add a symbolic link?
[12:06] <chemist109> czer323: No, put it into the /etc/rc.local file
[12:06] <czer323> nm, editing the file now.
[12:06] <hellblade> traampaa: rephrase please. i dont understand what is your problem
[12:07] <hellblade> traampaa: tell me the steps to reproduce it
[12:07] <czer323> chemist109: thanks ;)  Restarting and we'll see if this works.  I just installed synergy and set it up so that i can use one keyboard for multiple computer displays in front of me, from different computers.
[12:07] <czer323> !synergy
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <chemist109> czer323: A friend of mine just told me about synergy today.
[12:08] <rvd> Arh, how do I get amarok to function with my MP3 player?? It mounts perfectly with the deamons, but i don't know the Amarok configuration :(
[12:08] <chemist109> He's using it on a few windows machines
[12:08] <hellblade> sounds nice!
[12:09] <czer323> chemist109: i'm using it on a windows machine and a linux machien both.  it's awesome so far.  it SYNERGIZED THEM
 Okey. I start for egz. Amarok. I see in panel that he is loading. He loading and then and dont see them panel or in traybar. But when i restart system i see them in traybar and can use him.

 Understand?
 Understand? :)
[12:10] <hellblade> hellblade: yes. sounds strange. does that happen with all programs?
[12:11] <hellblade> traampaa it is
[12:11] <zoohouse> my screen ress is like 600 something by something. What app can I use to add a higher res? Thanks
[12:11] <ko12upt> im using ubuntu but their channel is very busy im trying to get my wireless network to be placed into the network section i see wired and modem but not wireless
[12:12] <fadingblack> can soemone tell me what the delete command is in terminal?
[12:12] <traampaa>  hellblade hmm. Its happen mostly when i run Adept or Add/remove package manager..
[12:12] <hellblade> is there any way in konversation to click on a name and add that name in text input like "name_i_clicked: "?
[12:12] <zoohouse> fadingblack: rm
[12:12] <alejandro> hello somebody can to helpme how to enabled direct rendering for ati's
[12:12] <fadingblack> ok thanks
[12:12] <zoohouse> fadingblack: try $whatis rm
[12:12] <zoohouse> just to make sure
[12:13] <hellblade> fadingblack: if you want to delete directory with all its contents try rm -r
[12:13] <zoohouse> what is the command to run the xserver config?
[12:13] <fadingblack> zoohouse: thanks
[12:13] <zoohouse> np
[12:13] <fadingblack> hellblade: thanks
[12:13] <hellblade> nps
[12:14] <hellblade> !ati
[12:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto