=== erstazi [n=erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-5.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === joejaxx_ is now known as joejaxx === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@38.167.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [12:40] New bug: #110108 in launchpad "Team admin should be able cancel the team membership in another team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110108 === erstazi [n=erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === bac is now known as bac_afk === erstazi [n=erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi] has joined #launchpad [01:00] Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [01:00] hiya mpt! [01:02] hello mpt [01:03] hello hello [01:03] Goooooooooooooooooood night mpt! :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [01:29] "Launchpad Bugs, the bug contact for Launchpad Bugs, will be notified about this bug." [01:29] Pure poetry === LyosNorezel [n=lyosnore@unaffiliated/lyosnorezel] has joined #launchpad === LyosNorezel [n=lyosnore@unaffiliated/lyosnorezel] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [01:38] now if only it said [01:38] "Launchpad Bugs, the bug contact for Launchpad Bugs, will be notified about this bug in Launchpad Bugs." === jml_ [n=jml@220-253-103-224.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [01:40] New bug: #110115 in malone "Detect and discard quoted versions of entire previous e-mail messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110115 === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [01:41] Good morning === jml_ is now known as jml [01:43] jml: prove it! [01:43] lifeless: it's an instruction, not a description [01:44] a benediction, if you will === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #launchpad [01:49] how does distro registering work on LP? who is allowed to start a distro, what services do you get, etc? === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [02:01] New bug: #110121 in rosetta "+languages search should get +languages, not post to +languages/+index" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110121 [02:02] jdong, kiko is the person who knows most about that afaik [02:03] I was thinking of a radical extension to Backports that would be awesome if implemented as a separate testing distro..... but of course I doubt distro registering is as willy-nilly as product! [02:05] jml: I can't hear it to tell if the diction is bene. [02:05] heh [02:05] a little latin is a dangerous thing. === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #launchpad [02:10] New bug: #110123 in launchpad "Portlets do not refresh in Opera 9.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110123 [02:12] mpt: is there any progress on hiding comments in bugs? [02:12] bug 109730 has a beautiful comment that is totally irrelevant [02:12] Malone bug 109730 in bzr "Bazaar has no lock command" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109730 === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [02:35] New bug: #110129 in malone "status command should accept displayed status forms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110129 [02:45] New bug: #110131 in malone "Cannot link bug to branch via email?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110131 [02:52] lifeless, not that I know of, ask BjornT [02:57] mpt: ok. === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.233.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.83] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.2.83] has joined #launchpad === Theuni [n=ctheune@uter.gocept.com] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.233.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === sinzui [n=sinzui@pool-70-17-92-27.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === bialix [n=chatzill@80.84.181.61] has joined #launchpad [08:41] hi, have a question === Prognatus__ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [08:42] at the page https://translations.launchpad.net/+faq there is topic "How do I start using Launchpad for my project?" that mention guide Translating your software using Launchpad. But link go to the same page. Where this guide is? [08:48] that sounds broken [08:49] could you file a bug report? [08:50] probably, if you point me to suitable bug tracker === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.34.26] has joined #launchpad [08:50] bialix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+filebug should do [08:51] thanks [08:55] bialix: https://help.launchpad.net/RosettaFAQ <- this might answer some of your questions. If you have others, please ask them :) [08:56] well, I try to understand how Rosetta works and how the best use it for translation Bazaar project [08:57] bialix: you'll want to start by marking the translatable strings with the gettext module [08:58] it's the EASIEST part [08:59] there is an xgettext.py utility distributed with Python, or you can use the standard GNU xgettext these days, iirc [08:59] to generate a PO template [08:59] I'm not completely understand how to peek all languages translations back to project from Rosetta to create release? [09:00] upload the PO template to rosetta, then export the translations from Rosetta as PO files [09:00] actually this utility named pygettext.py [09:00] bialix: you'd also need to include some initialisation calls to tell gettext where to find the translations [09:01] why import po file to Rosetta get so long time? [09:01] https://launchpad.net/translations/imports?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=po [09:02] usually translations (as mo files) will be in some directory/locale/XX/LC_MESSAGES/.. [09:02] Probably I'm not very clear ask my question [09:03] bialix: some extra checking is done on initial imports by the Rosetta admins [09:03] I want to understand how this supposed to work from organization point of view, not from coder point of view [09:04] no, I'm not about translation template (pot), I'm about ready-to-use translation for some language aka po-file [09:05] is not it should simply merge with existing translation base and do automatically? [09:05] When you are about to make a release, you can request an export of the translations for your project [09:05] New bug: #110181 in launchpad "search box in help.launchpad.net wiki template is broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110181 [09:05] New bug: #110185 in rosetta "link to guide "Translating your software using Launchpad" is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110185 [09:06] Do I can request for all existing translations at once? [09:06] ah. Rosetta also lets you upload PO files, as a way of doing offline translation. That's what those queue entries are from [09:06] bialix: you can request a tarball of all the translations for your project [09:06] which is what you'd do before a release [09:07] yes, this is what I'm asking for [09:09] you can only request a tarball for all translations in each template, afaik, not all translations in all templates in a project [09:09] bialix: okay. Lets look at Jokosher, which is using Rosetta for translations [09:09] bialix: https://translations.beta.launchpad.net/jokosher [09:10] in the main content area, there is a "View Template & All Languages..." link [09:10] click on that link to get details of the PO template and its associated translations [09:10] on this page, there is an "Download translations" link [09:11] this is the form you'd use to request an export of the translations [09:11] you can select which translations you want, and if you want them in PO or MO format [09:11] the request gets processed and an email sent to you with a link to the tarball [09:11] i think that it's intended to add the feature of downloading all templates for a particular project/package, so hopefully that will be possible in the future [09:12] mdke: well, there is generally a single template for most projects [09:12] really? [09:12] I'd expect only a single one for bzr [09:12] yep [09:12] multiple templates is the exception rather than the rule [09:13] most projects I'd expect to have at least two, one for the program (if it were a simple one), and another for the documentation === bialix_ [n=chatzill@80.84.181.132] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E07693.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad [09:19] jamesh: what green means? Legend says that "Translation unchanged since last synchronized". What it means? Who and when synchronized what? === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [09:27] bialix_: these would be translations uploaded to Rosetta as PO files [09:28] aha, thatks [09:28] thanks [09:28] bialix_: it isn't as important when considering an app that does all translation through Rosetta [09:28] bialix_: but for Ubuntu, both the PO template and all PO files are imported with new package uploads [09:28] as I see there is some problems to mix both approach [09:28] so the green indicates the translations coming from upstream [09:29] rather than having been translated in Rosetta [09:29] I understand === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:30] morning [09:35] New bug: #110195 in malone "Nomination for a release on one source package shouldn't affect any others" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110195 === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [09:50] New bug: #110198 in malone "date & month appear on developer-meets" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110198 [09:55] New bug: #110201 in malone "Visual indicators that a sprint/meet is over" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110201 === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.233.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@131.Red-83-57-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E07693.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === Wulfe [n=beowulfe@n117s081.bbr1.shentel.net] has joined #launchpad === Wulfe is now known as wulfepup [10:28] Hello, hello. Anyone here that help with launchpad accounts? I can't remember which email I used. [10:29] erk, internal server error on http://people.launchpad.net [10:29] make that https [10:30] as I am on the beta team it looks like its https://people.beta.launchpad.net/ that actually is giving the 500 server error [10:31] http://launchpad.net/people works though [10:32] wulfepup: beowulfe@wulfeweb.com [10:32] https://launchpad.net/~beowulfe assuming that is you, I can't imagine there are many Beowulfe Odhinnssons on the planet? :) [10:33] I just added that one.. I think.... [10:33] unless that's my old one and teh new didn't actually go through === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [10:35] well thats the only person with Odhinnsson in the name [10:36] and since I haven't yet set up the new one.. only used that email to register.. since it has my name... it must be the old one.. [10:36] Thank you! [10:44] popey: people.launchpad.net doesn't exist [10:45] haha [10:45] that might explain it [10:45] popey: but we use *.launchpad.net for DNS so for non existing domains, we give that error (which is indeed a bug and we have it pending to be fixed) [10:45] wonder why I have it in my recently accessed sites then === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [10:47] it would be interesting to move it to people.lp.net, imho :) [10:47] is there a channel where the web-heads for ubuntu.com hang out? [10:48] (i guess it's some of the same people that are here, but my next question isn't lp specific enough to raise here) [10:48] bug 46982 [10:48] Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 - Assigned to (danilo) [10:49] Who runs ubotu? [10:50] mpt: I think Seveas [10:50] or at least he used to [10:50] I still do :) [10:50] Seveas, where do we report bugs? :-) [10:50] lp.net/ubuntu-bots [10:50] cool [10:51] ta === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [10:56] fqwhgads.launchpad.net === wulfepup [n=beowulfe@n117s081.bbr1.shentel.net] has left #launchpad [] [11:08] mpt, are you going to file a bug or was it general cutiosity? :) === _john [n=john@85.112.67.32] has joined #launchpad [11:18] Seveas, just reported the bug [11:19] <_john> Hey guys, i have a small question. Why is it that when i try to search for the package zapping, i don't get any results? I already know that its in there, i can access it from some google results. [11:24] _john, show us where you're searching [11:24] What URL do you start from? === jkakar [n=jkakar@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [11:25] <_john> from the main launchpad page === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [11:26] <_john> this is the generated URL [11:26] <_john> https://launchpad.net/projects/?text=zapping === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [11:26] _john, that searchs for projects/products, not packages within a distro [11:26] <_john> adn this is the actual url of the source package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zapping [11:27] _john, use the search box on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu [11:27] hmm, does the fact that launchpad is an https site affect its pagerank? [11:27] I note https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu has no pagerank according to my browser google plugin [11:27] _john, Launchpad doesn't have a global search function yet === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [11:27] so to find a package, you need to search from the distribution page [11:27] in this case, launchpad.net/ubuntu [11:27] which means when people google for answers to problems they get 3 pages of links to stuff, none of which is the answers system [11:28] popey, is that also true for individual question pages? [11:29] well the individual question pages are https too [11:29] and have no pagerank [11:29] <_john> Ok, now i understand. I just think that search is search....so i wouldn't know if the package is only associated with ubuntu and doesn't have a project page. But thanks anyway. [11:29] didn't know if https was the reason or whether there is some other way to explain a duff pagerank on such a popular site [11:29] _john, eventually it will be, but not yet, sorry [11:30] popey, most of Launchpad has almost ridiculously good pagerank [11:30] and very nearly all of Launchpad is served over HTTPS, so I don't think that's the issue === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [11:31] e.g. on your Launchpad page is result #6 [11:32] hmmm [11:32] One possibility is that there are very few links to answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu yet [11:33] well, indeed [11:33] the forums are insanely popular [11:33] :( [11:35] <_john> mpt: Ok. thanks === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-233-138.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [11:46] mpt, fixed :) [11:48] mpt: i reported bug 64149 because i think we should improve the visibility of answers [11:48] Launchpad bug 64149 in ubuntu-website "Tech support is too hard to find" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64149 === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad [12:00] New bug: #110030 in rosetta "epiphany extensions textdomain is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110030 [12:01] Seveas, cool, thanks [12:02] popey, I agree, but then, I think we should improve the visibility of almost everything === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [12:16] New bug: #97467 in launchpad "Quick way of enabling a maintenance page on Launchpad when experiencing service interruption" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97467 [12:21] New bug: #83304 in rosetta "Structural object heading for translation page should be the product/package" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83304 [12:22] que? [12:22] Old bugs reappearing again?! [12:24] Seveas: I guess is because the status change [12:24] carlos, they still shouldn't reappear... [12:25] ok, then ubotu has a bug ;-) [12:25] indeed :) === tokj [n=tk@151.82.6.116] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad [12:37] carlos, you'll be at the meeting? [12:37] mpt: yes [12:37] carlos, ok, may I send you my 3 sentences to paste? I won't be there [12:38] sure [12:38] thanks [12:38] carlos: edubuntu mails are automatically configured after joining the team in lp? [12:39] bluekuja: no idea [12:39] bluekuja: you will need to ask on #canonical-sysadmin [12:39] do you someone that can give me an answer? [12:39] ok great === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E07693.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad [12:50] New bug: #110235 in launchpad "New project duplicates checking form" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110235 [12:50] New bug: #110237 in launchpad "Add project merging functionality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110237 === mholthaus [n=mholthau@163-211.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [12:55] New bug: #1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === jamesh wonders why ubotu thinks that bug is new === jml [n=jml@ppp213-174.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === vprints [n=laur@213-35-242-161-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #launchpad [01:15] Hello ! [01:15] Any launcpad admins ? [01:15] 'h [01:15] New bug: #78780 in launchpad "Code that handles pillar names redirection shouldn't crash when the URL contains non-ascii characters" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78780 [01:20] yes vprints === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db444f1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@80.149.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [01:23] The problem that i brought up few weeks ago, that the estonian translation team leader isn't active at all [01:24] he hasn't replied to my mail for weeks [01:25] so i again apply for the post of the estonian translation team leader [01:25] as i am the most active translator for that language === _mholthaus [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad [01:36] New bug: #86597 in launchpad-bazaar ""Import your project" link broken on beta" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86597 === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === Yannig [n=yannig@AToulouse-157-1-118-249.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [01:45] New bug: #110250 in launchpad-bazaar "display mirror branch freshness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110250 === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.6.228.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === bcb [n=bcb@201.72.99.17] has joined #launchpad === gmt [n=gentoo@host158-108-static.187-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === codingmaster [n=codingma@dslb-084-058-216-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === SteveA_ is now known as SteveA === tmske_ [n=thomas@dD5E07693.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === ..[topic/#launchpad:mrevell] : Launchpad 1.0 public beta, https://launchpad.net/ | Next user meeting: Wed 02 May, 1600UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === cprov-out is now known as cprov === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Belutz [n=belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has joined #launchpad === Belutz [n=belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [03:06] New bug: #83616 in soyuz "IHasBuildRecords should support advanced browsing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83616 [03:06] New bug: #107973 in launchpad-bazaar "Unable to switch off the display of email address in branch revision history" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107973 === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #launchpad === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #launchpad [03:12] hey launchpaders [03:12] I have a small issue [03:13] we fix issues [03:13] eventually [03:13] every upload we do for the kernel team as "Ubuntu Kernel Team " as the maintainer, but the uploads get assigned to a non-existent (until lp creates it) team instead of ubuntu-kernel-team, which has the email address [03:14] it creates kernel-team, and assigns it there [03:15] I'm wondering what we can do, outside of creating a bogus ubuntu-kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com alias [03:17] I have no idea... and I can't find a soyuz guy online to help... [03:18] I'm not even sure who's doing soyuz with celso nowadays [03:19] I think it might be bigjools [03:20] cprov: ^ [03:20] New bug: #110275 in launchpad "Email addresses in signatures should be obfuscated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110275 [03:26] BenC: have you done an upload today or yesterday ? [03:27] cprov: no...awhile back I had someone here clean out kernel-team and move all the assigned packages to ubuntu-kernel-team [03:27] and now kernel-team is back after some uploads [03:27] cprov: I plan an upload today for a new source package, if that will help :) === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #launchpad [03:28] BenC: salgado added the 'person/team creation rationale' some time ago, this information would help to track where is the problem. [03:29] cprov: I assume it is using the "kernel-team" portion to map from kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com [03:29] but I would guess it would need to check existing teams/persons to see if that address is confirmed for someone already [03:29] BenC: sure it would, how is the procedure to cleanup the previous mess ? [03:30] I forgot who did it, but I'm sure it took some db voodoo [03:31] as a launchpad user, where can I find a list of the different values used in X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: so that I can sort bug mail sanely? [03:32] BenC, I bet that when we first saw un upload with that email we created a new person (kernel-team) with that email address [03:32] BenC, now when we look up a person by that email address we get the kernel-team [03:32] BenC: what I can say is that changesfile.{changed-by, maintainer} and dsc.{maintainer} could generate new Person creation [03:33] salgado: but that team was destroyed...and it came back even though ubuntu-kernel-team has existed since lp first opened [03:34] BenC, IIRC, the code will always create new person entries if the email address used to look up the person is not registered [03:34] the kernel team is indestructible! like a sphinx it will not die... [03:34] BenC, cprov should be able to confirm that [03:35] salgado: but it does exist and is registered to the ubuntu-kernel-team :) [03:35] salgado: right, I wonder if 'safe_fix_maintainer' is doing something wrong with: 'Ubuntu Kernel Team ' [03:36] wow, that's weird. let me check what email is associated with kernel-team [03:38] BenC, would it be possible that kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com was not in the database for some time? maybe the time in between removing the kernel-team person and associating the email with ubuntu-kernel-team/ === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@80.149.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [03:38] salgado: no way possible [03:39] as I said, ubuntu-kernel-team and it's registered email have been in lp since it opened [03:39] since before we even did the bugzilla->malone conversion [03:42] something wrong with LP or is it my side ? [03:43] it's wrong w/ LP [03:43] maybe the whole DC? I can't connect to devpad === Nafallo tries archive [03:44] not even archive [03:45] jez ... end-of-the-world [03:46] cprov: :-P [03:48] gahhh === erstazi [n=erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:51] mrevell: ping [03:51] SteveA: pong [03:52] cprov: ouch, i can't get to lp.c.c either [03:52] hep [03:52] yep [03:52] looks like some kind of connection problem [03:53] 15:42 < Ng> there is a general issue at the moment with the data centre. sysadmin strike ninjas are en route [03:53] thanks [03:54] whats the update frequency of edge? [03:54] mthaddon: ^^^ === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [03:56] flacoste: looking at the logs, it seems to be daily at 400UTC [03:57] matsubara: thx! [03:58] hey there [03:58] hey [03:58] what's going on? [03:58] someone stole the DC [03:58] or something [03:58] well maybe not [03:58] well I want it back [03:58] some DC problem [03:59] That's why I prefered Marvel [03:59] schwuk, yeah, marvel kicked DC's ass [03:59] except for the dark night === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has joined #launchpad [03:59] hahaha [04:00] Welcome to today's Launchpad Development meeting [04:00] who's here? [04:00] here [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] I AM CANADA [04:00] jml not here, gave me sentences [04:00] me [04:00] thumper on leave [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:01] me [04:01] me === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad [04:01] me [04:01] spiv: you here? === stu1 is now known as stub === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@80.149.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [04:01] me [04:01] man this DC disaster is a disaster [04:01] me [04:02] kiko: hey man, don't diss DC... right sinzui?! :) [04:02] = Agenda = [04:02] * whatever [04:02] I don't have the agenda, as it's in the DC [04:02] so I'll make this up as I go [04:02] hehe [04:02] Stevea: I've got a copy on my screen [04:02] mrevell: wow [04:02] mrevell: paste away [04:03] SteveA: I've got it as well [04:03] * [04:03] Roll call [04:03] * [04:03] Agenda [04:03] * [04:03] me === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [04:03] Next meeting [04:03] * [04:03] Activity reports [04:03] * [04:03] Actions from last meeting [04:03] * [04:03] Oops report (Matsubara) [04:03] * [04:03] Bug report (Joey - Current Top Items) [04:03] * [04:03] Bug tags [04:03] * [04:03] Production and staging (Stuart) [04:03] * [04:03] Sysadmin requests (Current Queue) [04:03] * [04:03] A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:03] * [04:03] Launchpad buzz report (mrevell) [04:03] * [04:03] (other items) [04:03] * [04:03] Three sentences [04:03] ooh, sorry, that was messy [04:04] no worries [04:04] you should not paste directly from wiki :) [04:04] Next meeting: same time, same day, same place [04:04] danilos: not much choice right now [04:04] Activity reports: let's skip this [04:04] SteveA, cprov and I will be in london but will make it. [04:04] (for reasons that will become apparent once the email lists reappear) [04:04] I am on vacation next week [04:04] kiko: can you fix the DC while you're there? [04:04] so missing the meeting as well [04:05] thanks [04:05] jamesh, if the DC isn't fixed by then I will probably not catch the plane [04:05] * Oops report: matsubara [04:05] me [04:05] Today's oops report is about bugs 105303, 92164, 107575, 57474 [04:05] carlos: you? [04:05] matsubara, do you have summaries handy? === bac_afk_ [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [04:05] SteveA: I was distracted :-P [04:05] so I was late for the meeting [04:05] given we don't have ubugtu the elder [04:05] I thought ubotu would help === bac_afk_ is now known as bac [04:05] I can produce summaries hang on [04:06] [Bug 105303] Re: Visiting 'Change translator' form fails with [04:06] NoCanonicalUrl [04:06] carlos, how is that one going? we need a fix by tomorrow. [04:06] i am here but having trouble with IRC [04:06] that's assigned to carlos [04:06] me [04:06] kiko: it's part of the patch I asked you to review yesterday, BjornT is doing that review right now [04:07] carlos, thanks! [04:07] good jobaroo [04:07] [Bug 92164] Re: setInWSGIEnvironment fails sometimes trying to insert [04:07] 'launchpad.userid' [04:07] that's assigend to SteveA [04:07] and it should be assigned to somebody else [04:07] jamesh perhaps? [04:07] can you get a fix in for us by tomorrow? [04:07] is it complicated, SteveA? [04:07] it's tricky to reproduce though an seem to happen in different places of LP [04:07] no, but it needs doing right [04:07] I think 92164 is related to Retrys [04:08] it is [04:08] it is related to retries === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-216-234.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad [04:08] SteveA, can jamesh tackle it as a one-off by tomorrow? [04:08] I can describe the fix exactly [04:08] say yes please [04:08] if he has time [04:08] I can describe how to fix it [04:08] if he hasn't time, i can give a shot at it === mholthaus [n=mholthau@80.149.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [04:09] [Bug 107575] Launchpad should handle invalid blob encoding better [04:09] if it is a simple fix, I could look at it for tomorrow [04:09] jamesh, okay, consider it assigned and I will be looking for that fix tomorrow. [04:09] thanks [04:09] jamesh: it's simple. I'll describe the fix after the meeting [04:09] matsubara, is that bug BjornT's or stub's? [04:09] that one I asked BjornT to take a look. [04:10] i haven't looked at it yet, sorry. [04:10] so.. which is it? [04:10] wow lag! [04:10] me [04:10] BjornT, if it's an infrastructure thing can you still handle it or will you need help? [04:10] SteveA: okay [04:10] [Bug 57474] Re: Passing a list as the query string in the project [04:10] search field crashes ftq === kiko kicks ubotu [04:11] we have an increase in oops regadring bug 57474. someone is spamming the global search form and triggering that bug. I don't know if that should be a priority as it's not affecting real users [04:11] flacoste, I'm going to give that one to you [04:11] ok [04:11] Seveas: you should kick kiko for abusive behaviour ;-) [04:11] kiko: it's not an infrastructure thing, it's malone specific. [04:11] flacoste, ideally we'd have an infrastructure hitch that avoided this happening everywhere.. === xplode_me [n=linux@89-180-74-18.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [04:12] kiko: no problem [04:12] is launchpad working ok? I cant access it :( [04:12] flacoste, but if we don't then we don't [04:12] xplode_me: no. datacentre offline. ninjas are on it. [04:12] xplode_me, the hosting center was hit by an atomic bomb [04:12] oh, I see [04:12] hope the servers resist the radiation ^^ [04:12] flacoste, kiko: it was discussed how we could deal with these kind of errors. i can send flacoste an mail, explaining what should be done. [04:13] thanks BjornT [04:13]