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jbaileyDo we have a page somewhere that lists the differences between the dekstop and server kernels?02:22
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dokokylem: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers09:53
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mvo_is it correct that we do not support mremap() on MAP_ANONYMOUS?11:46
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mvo_nevermind my mremap question11:58
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zulBenC: er...xen doesnt use bzImage02:05
dokokylem, BenC: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers02:05
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zulBenC: ping 02:46
zulhttp://www.xensource.com/xen/xensummit.html02:46
BenCdoko: cool, thanks03:09
kylemdoko, awesome, thanks dude.03:17
zul /win 1203:23
kylem/winnar03:24
zul:P03:24
NafalloBenC: do I want to run the kernel you plan to upload today or will stuff be broken? :-)03:29
BenCNafallo: if you need linux-restricted-modules, firmware, or drivers we had in /lib/modules/`uname -r/kernel/ubuntu/, then it will break for you03:30
BenCI think I can do an lrm upload today, but the ubuntu modules aren't ready yet03:31
NafalloI don't need lrm. and hopefully only the webcam is in kernel/ubuntu. I'll check :-)03:31
BenCkylem: my i2k is still bricked...any chance you could try a build from gutst.git on it?03:32
Nafallolooks like I can try the new kernel today then... :-)03:32
kylemBenC, i can try a build on zx6k, but my i2k is unplugged under a table a couple km awya03:33
BenCdoko: kernel source is building on sparc, ppc, i386 and x86_64, and should build on the others...so you might have new linux-libc-dev03:34
BenCkylem: ah right...no biggy...the buildd's can be our test build :)03:34
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Nafallohehe03:35
kylemhehe.03:35
aboganiBenC: Do you have a minute for me and my spec (wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)?03:37
BenCabogani: you may just want to read debian/binary-custom.d/README in the ubuntu-gutsy.git03:38
BenCabogani: you get me some real time patches that work in that build, and you'll have a kernel03:38
aboganiBenC: I already done. When i have the patch (adapted for Gutsy git tree) i can submit it to you directly?03:39
BenCabogani: submit it to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com...not just the patch, but the required files listed in that README03:40
BenCand we'll get lrm and linux-meta stuff for it after it's building and uploaded03:41
BenCabogani: you'll need a team I can assign bugs to for that kernel, and need to make sure the patch continues to apply cleanly03:42
BenCif I go to do an upload, and that patch doesn't apply...it may just be disabled for that upload03:42
zulheh now we are getting fancy..03:43
BenCzul: don't feel left out...any bugs on the xen stuff get assigned to you :)03:44
zulthanks..03:44
zulrejected rejected rejected ;)03:44
BenCI'll raise them to Critical and lock it :)03:44
zuldang it03:44
Nafallobtw zul, XEN has security support by you in feisty? :-)03:45
BenCdo we have xen in feisty?03:45
zulyep03:45
Nafallouniverse atleast :-)03:45
zul2.6.1903:45
aboganiBenC: Ok. Last question: i need to build two kernel image. One is the normal realtime version and the second is a trace-able realtime kernel version: It is possible (the last not required linux-headers-* linux-* meta package neither lrm and lum)?03:45
Nafallonice. then I'll consider it for my server :-)03:46
zuland it works for amd64 apparently..03:46
Nafallowoha!03:46
BenCabogani: I'm not sure I want to clutter things with a trace-able kernel03:46
Nafallosounds like it might be worth breaking my RAID-array then :-)03:47
BenCabogani: perhaps you could supply that one out of tree03:47
aboganiBenC: Mh good idea. Ok i go to work on the patch. Thank you very much Ben.03:48
BenCabogani: np, glad we can finally get something in the kernel for you guys (rt and ubuntu-studio)03:49
BenCBenC> linux-image-2.6.21-1-KILL03:51
BenC* zul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))03:51
BenCI have the power!03:51
Nafallohaha03:52
NafalloBenC: you killed the DC aswell maybe ;-)03:52
BenConly elmo and feisty-leechers have that power03:53
MithrandirBenC: to the extent possible, I'd like you to try to get -rt and -lowlatency and similar stuff into the regular kernel builds since that'll cause less pain, security-wise.03:53
BenCMithrandir: already in progress03:54
Mithrandircoolie.03:54
BenCMithrandir: that was half the purpose of the new build system03:54
BenCxen, openvz, rt, and maybe some others03:55
Mithrandirit also makes it easier for us archive admins to keep stuff in sync and get rid of obsolete versions and such.03:55
BenCpain for the buildd, but wonderful for long term maint03:55
Nafallomachines could be upgraded then... ;-)03:55
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Mithrandiryeah, worst case is we get a fatter i386 buildd.03:56
Mithrandirand amd64 buildd03:56
Mithrandirsince I suspect you're not doing those kernels for sparc and ia64 and hppa?03:56
Nafalloand soyuzguys are still working on porting security over from DAK, right? :-)03:56
BenCamd64 isn't so much of an issue...i386 is the worst because it has 5 flavours now (and will grow) plus the indep build03:56
Nafalloso one more buildd / arch when that's done...03:56
BenCi386 actually needs a fat 2xquad xeon box03:56
rtg__Did the Ubuntu DC wink out? I'm only getting  as far as London2.Level3.net.04:01
Mithrandirrtg__: yes.04:01
kylemkind of odd, don't we have redundant pipe-age?04:11
infinityYes.  Both routes seem to be stopping dead from here.04:12
kylemyow.04:12
BenCexplains why the wiki is dead04:13
gnomefreakwiki is dead LP is dead and repos are dead :(04:14
infinityWe know.04:14
infinityAlso, we know.04:14
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infinityAnd, as an added bonus, we know.04:14
gnomefreak:)04:14
gnomefreakok play time work later ;)04:15
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BenCinfinity: did you know the DC is down? :)04:48
infinityBenC: Hadn't heard.04:49
BenCinfinity: should I file an RT for it? I really need the DC...it's my favorite place to launch DOS attacks from04:49
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Nafallolol04:53
bdmurrayIsn't it back now?04:57
Nafalloyea :-)04:58
Nafalloor getting back. not sure if they're finished with it yet :-)04:58
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dade`somebody knows roos burton or knows his nickname on irc ?06:15
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Nafallodade`: ross06:19
dade`which network ?06:19
thomgimpnet is your best bet i imagine06:20
dade`thx06:20
dade`he's not online06:24
zdzichuBGcatch him via jabber06:25
dade`jabber contact ?06:26
zdzichuBGhis JID is ross@burtonini.com06:28
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BenC 708 files changed, 27665 insertions(+), 5304 deletions(-)06:56
fabbionetsk06:57
BenCit's huge, it's ugly, but damnit, you ppl asked for it06:57
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fabbione 193 files changed, 1923 insertions(+), 8268 deletions(-)06:57
fabbionemine is better :)06:57
BenChehe06:57
fabbioneBenC: what patch is that?06:57
zuli have patch envy06:57
BenCIngo's realtime06:57
zulis that with the binary-custom.d stuff?06:58
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BenC 456 files changed, 88484 insertions(+), 543 deletions(-)06:58
BenCguess what patch that is :)06:58
BenCzul: yeah06:58
zuluh...xen?06:59
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zulwheee..06:59
BenCgoing for the trifecta, and dropping openvz in here too07:00
zuler...openvz 2.6.21?07:00
BenC2.6.20...hoping the patch applies07:00
zulgood luck with that07:00
BenC 875 files changed, 81579 insertions(+), 4316 deletions(-)07:01
BenCdoesn't look promising07:01
zulouchie07:01
BenCdpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'.07:01
zul<mr. burns>excelent</mr. burns>07:02
Nafallo:-)07:02
zdzichuBG.22 ?07:02
zulyes.... .2207:03
Nafallo18:14 < BenC> No, today's upload with be 2.6.22-1 (2.6.21 with SUBLEVEL  override to save me some work later on)07:03
Nafallo22 :-)07:03
BenCwithin a couple of weeks it will become 2.6.22-rc1 anyway :)07:06
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zdzichuBGmhm07:09
fabbioneBenC: OMG07:10
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_MMA_BenC: crimsun just let me know about the -rt. :) Ill start people testing it when Gutsy is ready.07:15
BenCkylem: how's lum coming?07:17
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BenCdpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'.07:39
BenCthis is too easy07:39
zulyouve taken the fun out07:39
Nafallo:-D07:39
_MMA_:)07:40
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BenCzul: pushed my changes with xen build if you want to give it a shot07:48
BenCopenvz gets the boot for not applying...07:51
Nafallo:-)07:51
zulBenC: sure...im building a local version as well, Im in the middle of syncing the xen bits to 2.6.21 final as well07:52
BenCwell, if this 4 arch build completes, this will get uploaded within a few hours07:54
zulcool07:54
Nafalloand then get built in the DC for 12h? ;-)07:55
BenCwont take 12 hours to build, but it will take at least that long to process to the archive08:02
zulis it possible to do a git diff xx days ago and its gets all changes between now and xx?08:04
Nafallohave you updated a wiki on how to build only generic from apt-get source? :-)08:04
BenCNafallo: the Maint wiki page has been updated08:07
BenCit should work the same08:07
Nafallokewl. thanks.08:08
NafalloI might grab it and build it on my server then :-)08:08
BenCbut specifically doing "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic" is the new "Right Way(tm)"08:08
Nafallokewl!08:08
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calavera?? ayuda10:32
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BenClovely...-rt makes it so ati can't be compiled...some symbol is GPL-only11:21
Nafalloouch11:21
kylemwhat a pity that is.11:22
Nafalloso we're dropping ATI, right? ;-)11:22
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BenCdisabling fglrx for the -rt build is my only option11:25
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BenCNo nvidia either...happy graphics for the -rt folks :/11:33
BenChope they're all using open source supported chipsets11:34
Nafallohehe :-)11:36
NafalloVESA? ;-)11:36
MithrandirIntel?11:36
NafalloIntel is what I'm using :-)11:38
BenCtime for the final test...12:12

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