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| jbailey | Do we have a page somewhere that lists the differences between the dekstop and server kernels? | 02:22 |
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| doko | kylem: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers | 09:53 |
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| mvo_ | is it correct that we do not support mremap() on MAP_ANONYMOUS? | 11:46 |
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| mvo_ | nevermind my mremap question | 11:58 |
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| zul | BenC: er...xen doesnt use bzImage | 02:05 |
| doko | kylem, BenC: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers | 02:05 |
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| zul | BenC: ping | 02:46 |
| zul | http://www.xensource.com/xen/xensummit.html | 02:46 |
| BenC | doko: cool, thanks | 03:09 |
| kylem | doko, awesome, thanks dude. | 03:17 |
| zul | /win 12 | 03:23 |
| kylem | /winnar | 03:24 |
| zul | :P | 03:24 |
| Nafallo | BenC: do I want to run the kernel you plan to upload today or will stuff be broken? :-) | 03:29 |
| BenC | Nafallo: if you need linux-restricted-modules, firmware, or drivers we had in /lib/modules/`uname -r/kernel/ubuntu/, then it will break for you | 03:30 |
| BenC | I think I can do an lrm upload today, but the ubuntu modules aren't ready yet | 03:31 |
| Nafallo | I don't need lrm. and hopefully only the webcam is in kernel/ubuntu. I'll check :-) | 03:31 |
| BenC | kylem: my i2k is still bricked...any chance you could try a build from gutst.git on it? | 03:32 |
| Nafallo | looks like I can try the new kernel today then... :-) | 03:32 |
| kylem | BenC, i can try a build on zx6k, but my i2k is unplugged under a table a couple km awya | 03:33 |
| BenC | doko: kernel source is building on sparc, ppc, i386 and x86_64, and should build on the others...so you might have new linux-libc-dev | 03:34 |
| BenC | kylem: ah right...no biggy...the buildd's can be our test build :) | 03:34 |
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| Nafallo | hehe | 03:35 |
| kylem | hehe. | 03:35 |
| abogani | BenC: Do you have a minute for me and my spec (wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)? | 03:37 |
| BenC | abogani: you may just want to read debian/binary-custom.d/README in the ubuntu-gutsy.git | 03:38 |
| BenC | abogani: you get me some real time patches that work in that build, and you'll have a kernel | 03:38 |
| abogani | BenC: I already done. When i have the patch (adapted for Gutsy git tree) i can submit it to you directly? | 03:39 |
| BenC | abogani: submit it to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com...not just the patch, but the required files listed in that README | 03:40 |
| BenC | and we'll get lrm and linux-meta stuff for it after it's building and uploaded | 03:41 |
| BenC | abogani: you'll need a team I can assign bugs to for that kernel, and need to make sure the patch continues to apply cleanly | 03:42 |
| BenC | if I go to do an upload, and that patch doesn't apply...it may just be disabled for that upload | 03:42 |
| zul | heh now we are getting fancy.. | 03:43 |
| BenC | zul: don't feel left out...any bugs on the xen stuff get assigned to you :) | 03:44 |
| zul | thanks.. | 03:44 |
| zul | rejected rejected rejected ;) | 03:44 |
| BenC | I'll raise them to Critical and lock it :) | 03:44 |
| zul | dang it | 03:44 |
| Nafallo | btw zul, XEN has security support by you in feisty? :-) | 03:45 |
| BenC | do we have xen in feisty? | 03:45 |
| zul | yep | 03:45 |
| Nafallo | universe atleast :-) | 03:45 |
| zul | 2.6.19 | 03:45 |
| abogani | BenC: Ok. Last question: i need to build two kernel image. One is the normal realtime version and the second is a trace-able realtime kernel version: It is possible (the last not required linux-headers-* linux-* meta package neither lrm and lum)? | 03:45 |
| Nafallo | nice. then I'll consider it for my server :-) | 03:46 |
| zul | and it works for amd64 apparently.. | 03:46 |
| Nafallo | woha! | 03:46 |
| BenC | abogani: I'm not sure I want to clutter things with a trace-able kernel | 03:46 |
| Nafallo | sounds like it might be worth breaking my RAID-array then :-) | 03:47 |
| BenC | abogani: perhaps you could supply that one out of tree | 03:47 |
| abogani | BenC: Mh good idea. Ok i go to work on the patch. Thank you very much Ben. | 03:48 |
| BenC | abogani: np, glad we can finally get something in the kernel for you guys (rt and ubuntu-studio) | 03:49 |
| BenC | BenC> linux-image-2.6.21-1-KILL | 03:51 |
| BenC | * zul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | 03:51 |
| BenC | I have the power! | 03:51 |
| Nafallo | haha | 03:52 |
| Nafallo | BenC: you killed the DC aswell maybe ;-) | 03:52 |
| BenC | only elmo and feisty-leechers have that power | 03:53 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: to the extent possible, I'd like you to try to get -rt and -lowlatency and similar stuff into the regular kernel builds since that'll cause less pain, security-wise. | 03:53 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: already in progress | 03:54 |
| Mithrandir | coolie. | 03:54 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: that was half the purpose of the new build system | 03:54 |
| BenC | xen, openvz, rt, and maybe some others | 03:55 |
| Mithrandir | it also makes it easier for us archive admins to keep stuff in sync and get rid of obsolete versions and such. | 03:55 |
| BenC | pain for the buildd, but wonderful for long term maint | 03:55 |
| Nafallo | machines could be upgraded then... ;-) | 03:55 |
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| Mithrandir | yeah, worst case is we get a fatter i386 buildd. | 03:56 |
| Mithrandir | and amd64 buildd | 03:56 |
| Mithrandir | since I suspect you're not doing those kernels for sparc and ia64 and hppa? | 03:56 |
| Nafallo | and soyuzguys are still working on porting security over from DAK, right? :-) | 03:56 |
| BenC | amd64 isn't so much of an issue...i386 is the worst because it has 5 flavours now (and will grow) plus the indep build | 03:56 |
| Nafallo | so one more buildd / arch when that's done... | 03:56 |
| BenC | i386 actually needs a fat 2xquad xeon box | 03:56 |
| rtg__ | Did the Ubuntu DC wink out? I'm only getting as far as London2.Level3.net. | 04:01 |
| Mithrandir | rtg__: yes. | 04:01 |
| kylem | kind of odd, don't we have redundant pipe-age? | 04:11 |
| infinity | Yes. Both routes seem to be stopping dead from here. | 04:12 |
| kylem | yow. | 04:12 |
| BenC | explains why the wiki is dead | 04:13 |
| gnomefreak | wiki is dead LP is dead and repos are dead :( | 04:14 |
| infinity | We know. | 04:14 |
| infinity | Also, we know. | 04:14 |
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| infinity | And, as an added bonus, we know. | 04:14 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 04:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok play time work later ;) | 04:15 |
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| BenC | infinity: did you know the DC is down? :) | 04:48 |
| infinity | BenC: Hadn't heard. | 04:49 |
| BenC | infinity: should I file an RT for it? I really need the DC...it's my favorite place to launch DOS attacks from | 04:49 |
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| Nafallo | lol | 04:53 |
| bdmurray | Isn't it back now? | 04:57 |
| Nafallo | yea :-) | 04:58 |
| Nafallo | or getting back. not sure if they're finished with it yet :-) | 04:58 |
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| dade` | somebody knows roos burton or knows his nickname on irc ? | 06:15 |
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| Nafallo | dade`: ross | 06:19 |
| dade` | which network ? | 06:19 |
| thom | gimpnet is your best bet i imagine | 06:20 |
| dade` | thx | 06:20 |
| dade` | he's not online | 06:24 |
| zdzichuBG | catch him via jabber | 06:25 |
| dade` | jabber contact ? | 06:26 |
| zdzichuBG | his JID is ross@burtonini.com | 06:28 |
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| BenC | 708 files changed, 27665 insertions(+), 5304 deletions(-) | 06:56 |
| fabbione | tsk | 06:57 |
| BenC | it's huge, it's ugly, but damnit, you ppl asked for it | 06:57 |
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| fabbione | 193 files changed, 1923 insertions(+), 8268 deletions(-) | 06:57 |
| fabbione | mine is better :) | 06:57 |
| BenC | hehe | 06:57 |
| fabbione | BenC: what patch is that? | 06:57 |
| zul | i have patch envy | 06:57 |
| BenC | Ingo's realtime | 06:57 |
| zul | is that with the binary-custom.d stuff? | 06:58 |
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| BenC | 456 files changed, 88484 insertions(+), 543 deletions(-) | 06:58 |
| BenC | guess what patch that is :) | 06:58 |
| BenC | zul: yeah | 06:58 |
| zul | uh...xen? | 06:59 |
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| zul | wheee.. | 06:59 |
| BenC | going for the trifecta, and dropping openvz in here too | 07:00 |
| zul | er...openvz 2.6.21? | 07:00 |
| BenC | 2.6.20...hoping the patch applies | 07:00 |
| zul | good luck with that | 07:00 |
| BenC | 875 files changed, 81579 insertions(+), 4316 deletions(-) | 07:01 |
| BenC | doesn't look promising | 07:01 |
| zul | ouchie | 07:01 |
| BenC | dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'. | 07:01 |
| zul | <mr. burns>excelent</mr. burns> | 07:02 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 07:02 |
| zdzichuBG | .22 ? | 07:02 |
| zul | yes.... .22 | 07:03 |
| Nafallo | 18:14 < BenC> No, today's upload with be 2.6.22-1 (2.6.21 with SUBLEVEL override to save me some work later on) | 07:03 |
| Nafallo | 22 :-) | 07:03 |
| BenC | within a couple of weeks it will become 2.6.22-rc1 anyway :) | 07:06 |
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| zdzichuBG | mhm | 07:09 |
| fabbione | BenC: OMG | 07:10 |
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| _MMA_ | BenC: crimsun just let me know about the -rt. :) Ill start people testing it when Gutsy is ready. | 07:15 |
| BenC | kylem: how's lum coming? | 07:17 |
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| BenC | dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'. | 07:39 |
| BenC | this is too easy | 07:39 |
| zul | youve taken the fun out | 07:39 |
| Nafallo | :-D | 07:39 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 07:40 |
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| BenC | zul: pushed my changes with xen build if you want to give it a shot | 07:48 |
| BenC | openvz gets the boot for not applying... | 07:51 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 07:51 |
| zul | BenC: sure...im building a local version as well, Im in the middle of syncing the xen bits to 2.6.21 final as well | 07:52 |
| BenC | well, if this 4 arch build completes, this will get uploaded within a few hours | 07:54 |
| zul | cool | 07:54 |
| Nafallo | and then get built in the DC for 12h? ;-) | 07:55 |
| BenC | wont take 12 hours to build, but it will take at least that long to process to the archive | 08:02 |
| zul | is it possible to do a git diff xx days ago and its gets all changes between now and xx? | 08:04 |
| Nafallo | have you updated a wiki on how to build only generic from apt-get source? :-) | 08:04 |
| BenC | Nafallo: the Maint wiki page has been updated | 08:07 |
| BenC | it should work the same | 08:07 |
| Nafallo | kewl. thanks. | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | I might grab it and build it on my server then :-) | 08:08 |
| BenC | but specifically doing "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic" is the new "Right Way(tm)" | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | kewl! | 08:08 |
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| calavera | ?? ayuda | 10:32 |
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| BenC | lovely...-rt makes it so ati can't be compiled...some symbol is GPL-only | 11:21 |
| Nafallo | ouch | 11:21 |
| kylem | what a pity that is. | 11:22 |
| Nafallo | so we're dropping ATI, right? ;-) | 11:22 |
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| BenC | disabling fglrx for the -rt build is my only option | 11:25 |
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| BenC | No nvidia either...happy graphics for the -rt folks :/ | 11:33 |
| BenC | hope they're all using open source supported chipsets | 11:34 |
| Nafallo | hehe :-) | 11:36 |
| Nafallo | VESA? ;-) | 11:36 |
| Mithrandir | Intel? | 11:36 |
| Nafallo | Intel is what I'm using :-) | 11:38 |
| BenC | time for the final test... | 12:12 |
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