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[02:22] <jbailey> Do we have a page somewhere that lists the differences between the dekstop and server kernels?
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[09:53] <doko> kylem: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers
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[11:46] <mvo_> is it correct that we do not support mremap() on MAP_ANONYMOUS?
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[11:58] <mvo_> nevermind my mremap question
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[02:05] <zul> BenC: er...xen doesnt use bzImage
[02:05] <doko> kylem, BenC: toolchain is done, just in case you want to update the kernel headers
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[02:46] <zul> BenC: ping 
[02:46] <zul> http://www.xensource.com/xen/xensummit.html
[03:09] <BenC> doko: cool, thanks
[03:17] <kylem> doko, awesome, thanks dude.
[03:23] <zul>  /win 12
[03:24] <kylem> /winnar
[03:24] <zul> :P
[03:29] <Nafallo> BenC: do I want to run the kernel you plan to upload today or will stuff be broken? :-)
[03:30] <BenC> Nafallo: if you need linux-restricted-modules, firmware, or drivers we had in /lib/modules/`uname -r/kernel/ubuntu/, then it will break for you
[03:31] <BenC> I think I can do an lrm upload today, but the ubuntu modules aren't ready yet
[03:31] <Nafallo> I don't need lrm. and hopefully only the webcam is in kernel/ubuntu. I'll check :-)
[03:32] <BenC> kylem: my i2k is still bricked...any chance you could try a build from gutst.git on it?
[03:32] <Nafallo> looks like I can try the new kernel today then... :-)
[03:33] <kylem> BenC, i can try a build on zx6k, but my i2k is unplugged under a table a couple km awya
[03:34] <BenC> doko: kernel source is building on sparc, ppc, i386 and x86_64, and should build on the others...so you might have new linux-libc-dev
[03:34] <BenC> kylem: ah right...no biggy...the buildd's can be our test build :)
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[03:35] <Nafallo> hehe
[03:35] <kylem> hehe.
[03:37] <abogani> BenC: Do you have a minute for me and my spec (wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)?
[03:38] <BenC> abogani: you may just want to read debian/binary-custom.d/README in the ubuntu-gutsy.git
[03:38] <BenC> abogani: you get me some real time patches that work in that build, and you'll have a kernel
[03:39] <abogani> BenC: I already done. When i have the patch (adapted for Gutsy git tree) i can submit it to you directly?
[03:40] <BenC> abogani: submit it to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com...not just the patch, but the required files listed in that README
[03:41] <BenC> and we'll get lrm and linux-meta stuff for it after it's building and uploaded
[03:42] <BenC> abogani: you'll need a team I can assign bugs to for that kernel, and need to make sure the patch continues to apply cleanly
[03:42] <BenC> if I go to do an upload, and that patch doesn't apply...it may just be disabled for that upload
[03:43] <zul> heh now we are getting fancy..
[03:44] <BenC> zul: don't feel left out...any bugs on the xen stuff get assigned to you :)
[03:44] <zul> thanks..
[03:44] <zul> rejected rejected rejected ;)
[03:44] <BenC> I'll raise them to Critical and lock it :)
[03:44] <zul> dang it
[03:45] <Nafallo> btw zul, XEN has security support by you in feisty? :-)
[03:45] <BenC> do we have xen in feisty?
[03:45] <zul> yep
[03:45] <Nafallo> universe atleast :-)
[03:45] <zul> 2.6.19
[03:45] <abogani> BenC: Ok. Last question: i need to build two kernel image. One is the normal realtime version and the second is a trace-able realtime kernel version: It is possible (the last not required linux-headers-* linux-* meta package neither lrm and lum)?
[03:46] <Nafallo> nice. then I'll consider it for my server :-)
[03:46] <zul> and it works for amd64 apparently..
[03:46] <Nafallo> woha!
[03:46] <BenC> abogani: I'm not sure I want to clutter things with a trace-able kernel
[03:47] <Nafallo> sounds like it might be worth breaking my RAID-array then :-)
[03:47] <BenC> abogani: perhaps you could supply that one out of tree
[03:48] <abogani> BenC: Mh good idea. Ok i go to work on the patch. Thank you very much Ben.
[03:49] <BenC> abogani: np, glad we can finally get something in the kernel for you guys (rt and ubuntu-studio)
[03:51] <BenC> BenC> linux-image-2.6.21-1-KILL
[03:51] <BenC> * zul has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[03:51] <BenC> I have the power!
[03:52] <Nafallo> haha
[03:52] <Nafallo> BenC: you killed the DC aswell maybe ;-)
[03:53] <BenC> only elmo and feisty-leechers have that power
[03:53] <Mithrandir> BenC: to the extent possible, I'd like you to try to get -rt and -lowlatency and similar stuff into the regular kernel builds since that'll cause less pain, security-wise.
[03:54] <BenC> Mithrandir: already in progress
[03:54] <Mithrandir> coolie.
[03:54] <BenC> Mithrandir: that was half the purpose of the new build system
[03:55] <BenC> xen, openvz, rt, and maybe some others
[03:55] <Mithrandir> it also makes it easier for us archive admins to keep stuff in sync and get rid of obsolete versions and such.
[03:55] <BenC> pain for the buildd, but wonderful for long term maint
[03:55] <Nafallo> machines could be upgraded then... ;-)
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[03:56] <Mithrandir> yeah, worst case is we get a fatter i386 buildd.
[03:56] <Mithrandir> and amd64 buildd
[03:56] <Mithrandir> since I suspect you're not doing those kernels for sparc and ia64 and hppa?
[03:56] <Nafallo> and soyuzguys are still working on porting security over from DAK, right? :-)
[03:56] <BenC> amd64 isn't so much of an issue...i386 is the worst because it has 5 flavours now (and will grow) plus the indep build
[03:56] <Nafallo> so one more buildd / arch when that's done...
[03:56] <BenC> i386 actually needs a fat 2xquad xeon box
[04:01] <rtg__> Did the Ubuntu DC wink out? I'm only getting  as far as London2.Level3.net.
[04:01] <Mithrandir> rtg__: yes.
[04:11] <kylem> kind of odd, don't we have redundant pipe-age?
[04:12] <infinity> Yes.  Both routes seem to be stopping dead from here.
[04:12] <kylem> yow.
[04:13] <BenC> explains why the wiki is dead
[04:14] <gnomefreak> wiki is dead LP is dead and repos are dead :(
[04:14] <infinity> We know.
[04:14] <infinity> Also, we know.
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[04:14] <infinity> And, as an added bonus, we know.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ok play time work later ;)
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[04:48] <BenC> infinity: did you know the DC is down? :)
[04:49] <infinity> BenC: Hadn't heard.
[04:49] <BenC> infinity: should I file an RT for it? I really need the DC...it's my favorite place to launch DOS attacks from
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[04:53] <Nafallo> lol
[04:57] <bdmurray> Isn't it back now?
[04:58] <Nafallo> yea :-)
[04:58] <Nafallo> or getting back. not sure if they're finished with it yet :-)
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[06:15] <dade`> somebody knows roos burton or knows his nickname on irc ?
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[06:19] <Nafallo> dade`: ross
[06:19] <dade`> which network ?
[06:20] <thom> gimpnet is your best bet i imagine
[06:20] <dade`> thx
[06:24] <dade`> he's not online
[06:25] <zdzichuBG> catch him via jabber
[06:26] <dade`> jabber contact ?
[06:28] <zdzichuBG> his JID is ross@burtonini.com
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[06:56] <BenC>  708 files changed, 27665 insertions(+), 5304 deletions(-)
[06:57] <fabbione> tsk
[06:57] <BenC> it's huge, it's ugly, but damnit, you ppl asked for it
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[06:57] <fabbione>  193 files changed, 1923 insertions(+), 8268 deletions(-)
[06:57] <fabbione> mine is better :)
[06:57] <BenC> hehe
[06:57] <fabbione> BenC: what patch is that?
[06:57] <zul> i have patch envy
[06:57] <BenC> Ingo's realtime
[06:58] <zul> is that with the binary-custom.d stuff?
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[06:58] <BenC>  456 files changed, 88484 insertions(+), 543 deletions(-)
[06:58] <BenC> guess what patch that is :)
[06:58] <BenC> zul: yeah
[06:59] <zul> uh...xen?
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[06:59] <zul> wheee..
[07:00] <BenC> going for the trifecta, and dropping openvz in here too
[07:00] <zul> er...openvz 2.6.21?
[07:00] <BenC> 2.6.20...hoping the patch applies
[07:00] <zul> good luck with that
[07:01] <BenC>  875 files changed, 81579 insertions(+), 4316 deletions(-)
[07:01] <BenC> doesn't look promising
[07:01] <zul> ouchie
[07:01] <BenC> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-xen_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'.
[07:02] <zul> <mr. burns>excelent</mr. burns>
[07:02] <Nafallo> :-)
[07:02] <zdzichuBG> .22 ?
[07:03] <zul> yes.... .22
[07:03] <Nafallo> 18:14 < BenC> No, today's upload with be 2.6.22-1 (2.6.21 with SUBLEVEL  override to save me some work later on)
[07:03] <Nafallo> 22 :-)
[07:06] <BenC> within a couple of weeks it will become 2.6.22-rc1 anyway :)
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[07:09] <zdzichuBG> mhm
[07:10] <fabbione> BenC: OMG
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[07:15] <_MMA_> BenC: crimsun just let me know about the -rt. :) Ill start people testing it when Gutsy is ready.
[07:17] <BenC> kylem: how's lum coming?
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[07:39] <BenC> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt' in `../linux-image-2.6.22-1-rt_2.6.22-1.1_i386.deb'.
[07:39] <BenC> this is too easy
[07:39] <zul> youve taken the fun out
[07:39] <Nafallo> :-D
[07:40] <_MMA_> :)
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[07:48] <BenC> zul: pushed my changes with xen build if you want to give it a shot
[07:51] <BenC> openvz gets the boot for not applying...
[07:51] <Nafallo> :-)
[07:52] <zul> BenC: sure...im building a local version as well, Im in the middle of syncing the xen bits to 2.6.21 final as well
[07:54] <BenC> well, if this 4 arch build completes, this will get uploaded within a few hours
[07:54] <zul> cool
[07:55] <Nafallo> and then get built in the DC for 12h? ;-)
[08:02] <BenC> wont take 12 hours to build, but it will take at least that long to process to the archive
[08:04] <zul> is it possible to do a git diff xx days ago and its gets all changes between now and xx?
[08:04] <Nafallo> have you updated a wiki on how to build only generic from apt-get source? :-)
[08:07] <BenC> Nafallo: the Maint wiki page has been updated
[08:07] <BenC> it should work the same
[08:08] <Nafallo> kewl. thanks.
[08:08] <Nafallo> I might grab it and build it on my server then :-)
[08:08] <BenC> but specifically doing "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic" is the new "Right Way(tm)"
[08:08] <Nafallo> kewl!
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[10:32] <calavera> ?? ayuda
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[11:21] <BenC> lovely...-rt makes it so ati can't be compiled...some symbol is GPL-only
[11:21] <Nafallo> ouch
[11:22] <kylem> what a pity that is.
[11:22] <Nafallo> so we're dropping ATI, right? ;-)
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[11:25] <BenC> disabling fglrx for the -rt build is my only option
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[11:33] <BenC> No nvidia either...happy graphics for the -rt folks :/
[11:34] <BenC> hope they're all using open source supported chipsets
[11:36] <Nafallo> hehe :-)
[11:36] <Nafallo> VESA? ;-)
[11:36] <Mithrandir> Intel?
[11:38] <Nafallo> Intel is what I'm using :-)
[12:12] <BenC> time for the final test...