[02:32] <maccam94> um, www.edubuntu.org is down for me >_<
[02:33] <maccam94> can anyone else confirm that the site is down?
[02:36] <Burgwork> yep, down
[02:42] <Burgwork> up again
[06:56] <bhaskar> i have install edubuntu 7.04 festy , LTSP 5 is built in , very nice, i want to know how to setup printer?? on client and server
[08:59] <achandra> hey there!
[08:59] <achandra> wireless issues!
[08:59] <achandra> Intel Pro/Wireless 2200 BG
[08:59] <achandra> has anyone experienced similar issues?
[09:24] <achandra> can anyone help me to get this wireless up and running.. I am using a Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG connection..
[11:27] <ukubuntu> You guys may wish to help redress the balance  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/910 pass it on all day ;)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> Edubuntu
[11:28] <ukubuntu> 1% (2 votes)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> Kubuntu
[11:28] <ukubuntu> 49% (167 votes)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> Ubuntu
[11:28] <ukubuntu> 48% (161 votes)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> Xubuntu
[11:28] <ukubuntu> 2% (8 votes)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> None of the above
[11:28] <ukubuntu> 0% (0 votes)
[11:28] <ukubuntu> Total votes: 338
[11:33] <pipedream> eek
[01:17] <cliebow> ukubuntu, done
[01:17] <cliebow> now i vote for the other schools
[01:23] <ukubuntu> kewl
[01:49] <bhaskar> hello, can u give me the links of Edubuntu server add-on CD
[01:49] <bhaskar> i have Server 7.04 Feisty
[01:49] <bhaskar> so i need 7.04 server add-on CD link
[03:43] <bddebian> Heay
[03:43] <bddebian> Err Heya
[03:43] <ogra> tsk ...
[03:43] <ogra> breaking traditions ...
[03:45] <bddebian> Yeah :'-(
[03:46] <cliebow_> palindromes..almost
[05:11] <bettsp> ogra: ping
[05:50] <knix_> Is it possible to authenticate students with edubuntu in active directory?
[06:47] <ogra> bettsp, pong
[06:50] <cbx333> ogra, we just got two little rexs
[06:50] <ogra> nicde
[06:50] <cbx333> Asuka and Tifa
[06:50] <cbx333> about 9 weeks old ;)
[06:51] <ogra> two girls  ?
[06:51] <cbx333> yup
[06:51] <cbx333> you knew the names?
[06:51] <ogra> nope
[06:51] <ogra> susie also considers  new one ...
[06:52] <cbx333> Asuka is a character name from Neon Genesis Evangelion
[06:52] <ogra> somehow the old one we had left slightly suffers from the agile young one
[06:52] <cbx333> and Tifa is from Final Fantasy 7
[06:52] <cbx333> ;)
[06:52] <ogra> ah
[06:52] <cbx333> damn he was too fast
[06:53] <cbx333> they had to have japanese names ;)
[06:53] <cbx333> or
[06:53] <cbx333> at least from japanese created series
[06:53] <cbx333> ;)
[06:53] <LaserJock> cbx333: I'm fast as a laser
[06:53] <ogra> after seville i'm planning a 10-20 sqm outdoor cage for mine
[06:53] <LaserJock> so 3x10^8 m/s
[06:53] <cbx333> we're hoping to breed a few
[06:54] <ogra> ah, nice ...
[06:54] <cbx333> we had babies before
[06:54] <cbx333> they are very cute
[06:54] <ogra> we're still unsure we want that trouble .... but thinking about it since quite ome time
[06:54] <cbx333> maximum you can get is 4 ;)
[06:54] <cbx333> or 5
[06:55] <LaserJock> ogra: did I already ask you if you were going to Sevilla via Madrid?
[06:55] <ogra> via palma de mallorca
[06:55] <LaserJock> I'd really like to catch a taxi with somebody
[06:55] <ogra> 1h break between the flights
[06:56] <ogra> i was planning via malaga ... but somehow the plane was overbooked when i looked...
[06:56] <ogra> seems i was to late ... so now i fly through palma
[06:57] <ogra> LaserJock, but you dont want to go from madrid to sevilla by taxi
[06:57] <ogra> do you ?
[06:59] <LaserJock> no
[06:59] <LaserJock> I was just wondering if people were going to take the same flight
[06:59] <LaserJock> so it'd be easy
[07:00] <cbx333> ogra, what breed are your pigs?
[07:00] <LaserJock> ogra: what time to you arrive at sevilla?
[07:01] <LaserJock> I arrive 15:00 on the 2nd
[07:01] <LaserJock> gotta run for meetings, bbl
[07:01] <LaserJock> if anybody is reaching sevilla at ^^ let me know
[07:05] <ogra> cbx33, one US or CH Teddy and i dont know the english name for the other race, but a pretty common one
[07:06] <ogra> Laser_away, i think i arrive around 16:30
[07:07] <ogra> ah, apprently they are aclled abyssinian
[07:07] <ogra> *called
[07:20] <bettsp> Damn it, I got distracted by schoolin'
[07:21] <bettsp> ogra: I got a LTSP Fat Client up and running per the spec
[07:21] <bettsp> There's a few problems though; I tried to add it as notes to the LTSPFatClient page but it's locked cause it's a spec
[07:22] <ogra> hmm, you should be able to edit the wikipage ...
[07:22] <bettsp> Well anyways I'll just tell you
[07:23] <bettsp> There's a few problems with D-Bus getting loaded, mainly because some paths in var it tries to write to are read-only
[07:23] <bettsp> As a result hald doesn't get loaded either; not a big deal but it's something to fix to make the spec work seamlessly
[07:25] <bettsp> It seems to be really slow to boot too, even though the server isn't working that hard
[07:25] <bettsp> I've been tweaking NFS settings but I haven't got anything worth anything
[07:26] <ogra> just add these paths to /etc/default/ltsp-client-setup :)
[07:26] <ogra> in the client chroot
[07:26] <ogra> so they get RW
[07:27] <ogra> s/get/become/
[07:27] <bettsp> ogra: Yeah, that's what I did (after picking out how ltsp works)
[07:27] <ogra> yeah we need ore developer docs ...
[07:28] <ogra> the opensuse people just start implementing our ltsp ... i'm trying to take notes abut their questions ...
[07:29] <cbx333> ogra, our third is a boy shelty ;)
[07:30] <bettsp> The other thing you might think about adding to Edubuntu in general is a GUI way to tweak what packages are installed on the client image
[07:31] <cbx333> ogra, nice idea
[07:31] <bettsp> (Maybe it already exists, I'm new to Edubuntu)
[07:33] <ogra> no, it doesnt yet, but we're working on a spec for gutsy for full update-manager integration
[07:33] <cbx333> ;)
[07:34] <cbx333> that's gonna be cool
[07:34] <ogra> so you will automatically get popups for security updates and will be able to upgrade the chroot via the dist-upgrade tool
[07:34] <cbx333> two icons?
[07:34] <ogra> nope
[07:34] <highvoltage> hello cbx333 and ogra
[07:34] <ogra> integrated in u-m
[07:34] <cbx333> hey highvoltage
[07:34] <ogra> funnily that requires synaptic in the chroot
[07:34] <cbx333> hehehe
[07:35] <ogra> so theoretically you *can* manage your packages in the chroot via that :)
[07:35] <cbx333> hah
[07:35] <cbx333> that's cool
[07:35] <highvoltage> cbx333: weren't you going to announce them real soon? (you  said breviously you have a few real cool projects)
[07:35] <cbx333> hehe
[07:35] <cbx333> this ia a new one
[07:35] <cbx333> I started it last night
[07:35] <cbx333> almost v1 already
[07:35] <highvoltage> another one!
[07:35] <highvoltage> #!/bin/sh
[07:36] <highvoltage> echo "cbx33 rulzzz!!!!1cos(0)!!"
[07:36] <cbx333> ok I'll let you in ;)
[07:36] <cbx333> it's called vcsfrenzy
[07:36] <cbx333> a libnotify bind for bzr and svn
[07:36] <highvoltage> aah
[07:36] <cbx333> so that you get informed of updates to repos that are important to you
[07:36] <bettsp> cbx333: That's cool
[07:36] <highvoltage> libnotify, that's the gnome-bubble thing right?
[07:37] <cbx333> yup
[07:37] <cbx333> like update manager
[07:37] <cbx333> very cool ;)
[07:37] <cbx333> i needed it for work
[07:37] <cbx333> svn is ready and done
[07:37] <ogra> cbx33, does it integrate with LP ?
[07:37] <cbx333> just need to do bzr
[07:37] <ogra> so i can monitor the lp branches ....
[07:37] <cbx333> yes
[07:37] <cbx333> it will do
[07:37] <cbx333> just copy the address into the config file
[07:37] <cbx333> v2 will have an applet icon
[07:37] <cbx333> so you can add the measily
[07:38] <cbx333> and assign custom icons
[07:38] <ogra> LP has an api for that  ... with rss ...
[07:38] <cbx333> ahhh cool
[07:38] <cbx333> i could make a distinction between LPbzr and bzr
[07:38] <cbx333> will make LPbzr faster
[07:38] <ogra> yu could show the short from of the recent revisions in a tooltip ...
[07:38] <cbx333> yup
[07:38] <cbx333> that's what it does
[07:38] <ogra> nice
[07:38] <cbx333> it already has a button in the tooltip to open up the full log message
[07:39] <cbx333> "View Log"
[07:39] <ogra> now just integrate with bzr-gtk and launch nautilus with the right branch  :)
[07:39] <cbx333> heh
[07:39] <cbx333> give me a chance ;)
[07:39] <cbx333> i on;y started it yesterday
[07:39] <ogra> ver.2.x  :)
[07:39] <ogra> or 5.x :)
[07:39] <cbx333> nah
[07:39] <cbx333> 2.x
[07:39] <cbx333> it's my next week project
[07:40] <cbx333> which means it should be fairly complete by next week
[07:40] <cbx333> v1 at least ;)
[07:40] <cbx333> bzr will be able to do LP branchs
[07:41] <cbx333> but the bzrLP (thanks to you ogra) will be faster;)
[07:41] <cbx333> you can set poll time for each repo
[07:41] <cbx333> and give each repo a custom name for the bubbles
[07:41] <cbx333> was gonna add a view diff too
[07:42] <ogra> you should be able to pull that in from bzr-gtk it has such functions
[07:42] <cbx333> so does bzr in general
[07:43] <ogra> no i mean bzr-gtk has a complete view diff function including syntax highlighting and gtk window :)
[07:43] <cbx333> ahhh
[07:43] <cbx333> awesome
[07:43] <cbx333> maybe I'll look at that for v2
[07:43] <ogra> you just need to call it, no need t code it :)
[07:43] <cbx333> cool
[07:43] <cbx333> does bzr-gtk come with libs then?
[07:44] <ogra> no idea i have only tested it once ...
[07:44] <cbx333> ok
[07:44] <ogra> somehow i find using bzr in a gui strange ...
[07:44] <cbx333> hehe
[07:44] <ogra> notifications would be cool though
[07:44] <cbx333> awesome
[07:44] <cbx333> well keep it under ya haet ;)
[07:45] <cbx333> will be blogging soon
[07:45] <cbx333> I have the bzr code almost read
[07:45] <cbx333> y
[07:50] <cbx333> thanks for the encouragement guys
[07:51] <cbx333> I'll be looking for beta testers ;)
[07:52] <cbx333> funnily enough ogra is already down on the list.....HAHAH
[10:14] <highvoltage> 1/win 11
[10:14] <ogra> 2/loose 22 ?
[10:16] <highvoltage> ogra: heh :)
[10:17] <highvoltage> ogra: are you still envolved with debian in any way?
[10:17] <ogra> still ?
[10:17] <ogra> i never was
[10:17] <ogra> i was using it excessive over years, but never developed any debian stuff
[10:17] <highvoltage> ah ok. somehoe I got the idea that you were involved with debian just before joining ubuntu. probably because you were a debian user :)
[10:18] <ogra> i earned my bread with it :)
[10:18] <ogra> but actually the conference in mataro was my second OSS conference ever ...
[10:19] <ogra> without going to conferences you dont get your key signed ...
[10:19] <ogra> without key you are rather non existent in the debian world if it comes to developemnt
[10:19] <ogra> (indeed you can send patches or so)
[10:19] <ogra> but i'm considering becoming DD
[10:20] <highvoltage> ah yes, that reminds me, I'll have to print some ID copies with gpg fingerprints
[10:20] <ogra> we have so much ltp stuff that i'd like to get my hands n in debian as well
[10:20] <ogra> *on
[10:20] <highvoltage> long-term, I'd like to become a DD. even if it means I'll only become one when I'm 50.
[10:20] <ogra> *ltsp
[10:20] <highvoltage> cool :)
[10:21] <highvoltage> I see debian's LTSP uses quite a bit less ram than in Ubuntu. how is that so? I thought they were pretty much the same?
[10:21] <ogra> vagrant cascadian (the guy who maintains the debian ltsp branch, you will meet him in spain) maintains ltsp and all its friends, but is no DD
[10:21] <ogra> well
[10:21] <ogra> debian uses a debian kernel, we use an ubuntu kernel
[10:21] <highvoltage> ah ok :)
[10:21] <ogra> X is pretty much the same ...
[10:21] <ogra> ldm as well
[10:22] <highvoltage> ubuntu kernels are quite big.
[10:22] <ogra> oh, and indeed you can only compare debian with a pre edgy version of ubuntus ltsp
[10:22] <highvoltage> I think my K&R C book has arrived. went to the post office today but it was closed because of the public holiday today.
[10:22] <ogra> debian was frozen for nearly 6 months
[10:23] <highvoltage> heh, that's an entire release cycle on the ubuntu side :)
[10:23] <ogra> it had package version 0.99 ... edgy already had 0.127
[10:23] <ogra> indeed there was some stuff backported ...
[10:23] <ogra> but debian has no localdev suport out of the box ... still uses esd etc
[10:24] <ogra> oh, and comes with no printing support at all
[10:24] <Laser_away> ogra: hmm, so if I wait 1.5 hrs I can meet you at the Sevilla airport
[10:24] <highvoltage> ah now that I see bluekuja I remember I had a question
[10:24] <Cnl_Delta> hmm big room, hi there
[10:25] <highvoltage> ogra: bluekuja is accepted in edubuntu-members because he's already an ubuntu-membet, right?
[10:25] <bluekuja> highvoltage: yes
[10:25] <highvoltage> bluekuja: how have you been?
[10:25] <ogra> Laser_away, yep
[10:25] <bluekuja> we talked about it in the previsious meeting
[10:25] <ogra> hi Cnl_Delta
[10:25] <ogra> highvoltage, yep
[10:25] <bluekuja> on 25 of april
[10:25] <bluekuja> with RichEd
[10:26] <bluekuja> and oliver
[10:26] <highvoltage> aah, I just realised I missed a meeting :(
[10:26] <Laser_away> tsk tsk
[10:26] <ogra> highvoltage, we agreed (EC) in the meeting that it needs approval from one EC member to become edubuntu-member if youre already ubuntu member
[10:26] <Cnl_Delta> hey there ogra, was curious to know if edubuntu can run on  a P@ with 128 MB of RAM (8 GB HDD)
[10:26] <Cnl_Delta> *P2
[10:26] <ogra> no
[10:26] <highvoltage> we've had lots of public holidays this month, it messes with my weeks. I don't know when Wednesdays are anymore :/
[10:27] <highvoltage> ogra: that sounds good
[10:27] <ogra> well, it could probably *run* but it will be far from usable
[10:27] <ogra> Cnl_Delta, get 128M more :)
[10:27] <Cnl_Delta> hehe
[10:27] <Cnl_Delta> i got old folk and really young kids using a pc like that
[10:27] <highvoltage> Cnl_Delta: you could try Xubuntu and install the educational applications on top of that.
[10:28] <ogra> memory is essential in linux ... CPU speed is less important
[10:28] <Cnl_Delta> thought edubuntu would be more useful than win 98 (its not used right now)
[10:28] <highvoltage> Cnl_Delta: 128MB is also a bit little for Xubuntu, but it will certainly run better than a full gnome desktop
[10:28] <bluekuja> highvoltage: everything ok now?
[10:28] <ogra> yeah, what highvoltage says ... xubuntu is probably the better choice for that HW
[10:28] <highvoltage> bluekuja: more or less :)
[10:28] <Cnl_Delta> i got the alternate installer of Xubuntu and have done a test install on my system (1 GB RAM)
[10:28] <ogra> or run it as thin client :)
[10:28] <bluekuja> highvoltage: i forgot you lost that meeting
[10:29] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[10:29] <bluekuja> highvoltage: anyway you can check logs to check the new "policy"
[10:29] <Cnl_Delta> i just thought of Xubuntu and haven't read about thin client stuff
[10:29] <Cnl_Delta> *thought of Edubuntu i mean
[10:30] <Cnl_Delta> I was looking for an OS that just to run a web browser and E-Mail that was easy enough for a 60 year old to learn how to use
[10:33] <highvoltage> Cnl_Delta: is the P2 on the same network as your 1GB RAM system?
[10:33] <highvoltage> Cnl_Delta: the Xubuntu CD gives you an LTSP install option too, if you install from the alternate cd
[10:34] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[10:34] <Cnl_Delta> once i get my BIOS fixed
[10:34] <Cnl_Delta> i have 3.0 AMD64 with 1 GB of RAM to spare
[10:35] <Cnl_Delta> ang 80 GB HDD
[10:35] <ogra> that would make a perfect edubuntu ltsp server
[10:35] <Cnl_Delta> so yes it I could have it on the same network
[11:43] <cbx33> w00t
[11:48] <mario> cbx33, :)
[11:55] <cliebow> yippee