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manchickenI see a lot of converters for devices under 50W, but my laptop AC adapter is 65W.12:16
manchickenThough they do have an 85W one.12:16
Luremanchicken: you just need adapter, so you should be fine with anything12:17
Tonio_manchicken: hehe cool :)12:17
manchickenYeah.12:18
manchickenI don't need a converter.12:18
manchickenI'm only seeing converters though on Radio Shack's site.12:18
otma_i would not use <65W capable converter.12:18
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manchickenI'm not going to.12:18
manchickenMy AC adapter for my lappy is 65W.12:18
manchickenWow.  This one's a 1600W adapter12:19
manchickenerr, converter12:19
otma_now you can take your electric heater with you ;=)12:19
manchickenThough it's not reccomended for things less than 50W12:19
manchickenotma_: I could bring my refrigerator with me.12:20
manchickenThough that may be tough to get through customs.12:20
manchickenYAY!  I found the adapters!12:21
manchicken$14.99.12:23
Jannexkbluetooth seems to be buggy on amd6412:26
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Tm_Thi Jannex12:27
JannexTm_T: Good evening12:34
Tm_Taagh, what did I press!12:39
=== Tm_T hates wikis
Tm_Tnixternal: ping12:49
nixternalTm_T: pong?12:54
Tm_Tnixternal: I edited my wikipage and, looks like it did send mail to you (too) about it, and I wonder what is that?!12:55
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nixternalwiki admins get emails to look over and make sure the wiki isn't being spammed12:55
Tm_Taah12:55
Tm_T...so it's normal, good to know12:56
Tm_Tnixternal: ...btw it's worst kind of spam ;)12:56
Tm_Tok, maybe I edit it more when I have slept12:58
nixternalhehe12:59
Tm_TI really don't know what I should mention there, so any ideas welcome12:59
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Tm_Tok, now even more, agh01:20
bdmurrayhello01:20
Tm_TI stop from today before I really do something stupid ->01:20
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xerosiscan anyone recommend a good book for c++/qt?01:47
Tm_Tyes01:51
Tm_Txerosis: http://dot.kde.org/1098950311/01:51
xerosiswow, just found the same book but for qt4, whole, on google books01:55
Tm_T:)01:57
Tm_TI will buy that one some day soon01:57
Tm_TQt4 version I mean01:57
xerosishttp://books.google.com/books?id=tSCR_4LH2KsC&dq=C%2B%2B+GUI+Programming+with+QT+4&pg=PP1&ots=E5-1nS05Ef&sig=cJ_vT_2-Le0UWhHqoQhOGRTaVoY&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3DC%252B%252B%2BGUI%2BProgramming%2Bwith%2BQT%2B4%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26client%3Dfirefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title#PPA4,M101:57
xerosisif you want to look01:57
Tm_Thttp://books.google.com/books?id=tSCR_4LH2KsC01:59
Tm_Tbit cleaner ;)01:59
xerosismy bad ;)01:59
xerosisah, there's a few pages missing02:00
Tm_TI don't care, I buy it :)02:01
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xerosisi'm a poor student, i have no money for books!02:04
Tm_TI'm poor unemployed, soon student, but I'm ready to pay02:07
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jhutchinsAre we aware that kubuntu.com is not responding?02:12
Tm_Tyes02:12
Tm_Tdatacenter has been nuked02:13
Tm_Tor something ;)02:13
jhutchinsTisk.  Good luck, sorry to bother y'all.02:13
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Tm_TJucato: hmm, like to be "hc helper" in #kubuntu ?09:34
Jucatohc helper?09:35
Tm_TJucato: poke LjL about -meta ;)09:35
Tm_TI think you would be great user for his experimental system09:36
Jucatotranslation: guinea pig? :D09:36
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giangy'morning guys09:52
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Tm_Tevening Hobbsee10:38
ajmitchHobbsee!10:38
Hobbseehi Tm_T, ajmitch10:38
Hobbseemy brain hurts10:38
Hobbseetoo many assignments10:39
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ajmitchaw10:39
Hobbseeand a proper write up for one particular experiment, which, you guessed it...i wont be there for.  which they didnt document in the study guide either.  grumble.10:40
ajmitchsurely you wouldn't go & miss uni? :)10:41
alleemorning10:42
Hobbseeheh10:45
Hobbseeno, no, of course not.  i live dual lives.10:45
Hobbseein multiple places at once10:45
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Riddellnixternal: when you find yourself not otherwise busy, fridge stories for dlink and kubuntu sponsoring akademy would be uber cool01:18
Riddellnixternal: also where are we on kubuntu-docs update, it needed the changelog expanded last I remember01:18
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cmvoRiddell and all: Although a bit late, congratulations and thanks for another fine release of kubuntu.01:22
Riddellthanks cmvo!01:23
cmvoRiddell: You're welcome :-) I couldn't do a much testing as I wanted, but there is always gutsy...01:25
Riddellcertainly is01:26
Hobbseeand one day i'll learn that it really isnt gusty...01:27
cmvoRiddell: Would you object to a config file for kdm in /etc/default for not automatically starting kdm?01:27
Riddellcmvo: no, so long as that wasn't the default of course01:32
cmvoRiddell: No, not as default, but it would be handy sometimes to have that option without having to rename the init script.01:34
cmvoRiddell: When I got the time I'll do a patch and send it your way if you don't mind.01:35
cmvoRiddell: Got to go, cul!01:35
LureRiddell: no specs for uds? https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/01:36
Riddellcmvo: sure01:36
RiddellLure: they're still only on the private wiki, they'll be moved to launchpad before the conference.  if you want to register specs please do so on launchpad01:37
LureRiddell: I am thinking on opensync/kitchensync inclusion, but this would probably need to allign with ubuntu, right?01:38
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RiddellLure: dunno, does anything else use opensync?01:38
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LureRiddell: yep, there are gnome front ends01:38
LureRiddell: and backends for all kind of devices and PIM (evolution, kdepim...)01:39
LureRiddell: it was briefly discussed on uds-mtv (I think lifeless and Mithrandir are interested in these)01:39
Riddellmm, so some coordination would be good01:40
LureRiddell: right01:40
Riddellif you want to register a spec and will it out with "make sure these package all work..." I can get it looked over at UDS01:40
LureRiddell: problem is that I will be sailing the week of UDS and w/o internet for most of next week01:41
LureRiddell: but can open spec at least with basic info01:41
LureRiddell: when is private specs supposed to get public?01:42
RiddellLure: dunno, before the conference is all I know01:42
RiddellI've posted the list of kubuntu ones01:42
LureRiddell: where?01:42
Riddellhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17624/01:44
HobbseeLure: sailing?01:51
Riddellon his way to akademy I'm sure :)01:54
Hobbseeahh01:54
LureHobbsee: yep, just back from Venice sailing and another week during uds ;-)01:54
LureRiddell: I wish, but I still cannot confirm attendance on akademy :-(01:54
Hobbseeahhh :)01:55
LureRiddell: will there be meduxa people at uds? then kick kedubuntu please!01:56
LureRiddell: what about adept usability (or merge with upstream)?01:56
RiddellLure: they will yes, and the edubuntu-kde session is scheduled01:59
meduxaI will be there02:00
RiddellLure: mornfall doesn't seem to have much plans for adept for next 6 months, I don't think there's too much that can be done02:00
Riddellmeduxa: yay!02:00
meduxaand 2 more guys02:00
Luremeduxa: great to have you around to push kdedu02:01
meduxawe will be also al akademy02:01
meduxawe have to think about how to do it because we have kde-edu from kde...debian-edu using also kde .. we have mEDUXa and bardinux in the canary islands based on kubuntu, we now gonna have kedubuntu...02:03
meduxathere shoul be a way of coordinate all these efforts02:04
meduxaassuming the independence of each one of the projects02:04
meduxafrom a content point of view02:05
meduxaand a educational point of view02:05
meduxathey are very close (even the same) type of projects02:05
meduxathey are different mostly from a technical point of view02:05
meduxaand who is behind each02:06
meduxaone02:06
meduxafor a beginner (a teacher) this is not optimal02:07
Riddellmeduxa: edubuntu-kde (never kedubuntu!) won't be a distribution on a CD, it'll just be a meta package avaialable to install02:07
meduxalook what is happening with gnome based projects02:07
meduxaspecially in spain02:08
Riddellmeduxa: what's bardinux?02:08
meduxathey don't cooperate much. we should not repeat those mistakes02:08
meduxaa kubuntu base distro from Tenerife's college02:08
Riddellmeduxa: what dates are you in sevilla?02:08
meduxafrom 3 to 802:08
meduxaof may02:08
Riddellmeduxa: will you be at the conference all day on 8th?  or leaving sometime during that day?02:10
giangymeduxa: also Spain (Junta de Andalucia) provide Guadalinex, isn't it also KDE-based?02:10
Riddellgiangy: it's gnome I'm sure02:11
meduxaleaving on 8th02:11
meduxaat 1702:11
Riddellmeduxa: ok, I'll ask to have meduxa sessions scheduled before then02:12
giangyRiddell: ah mh, true.. (I see an old image, http://www.guadalinex.org/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/album01/Escritorio_live.png and icon set...heh)02:12
meduxaguadalinux, linex, molinux, asturlinux, lliurex and catix02:12
meduxaare based on gnome02:12
meduxamax has both desktop02:12
meduxaok02:12
giangymeduxa: ok, understand02:12
meduxaI just sent this morning the final report/memory of mEDUXa 1.202:14
meduxato local Gov02:14
meduxahopefully I'll be able to translate the more interesting parts for UES02:14
meduxaand show some code. We want to publish all in Lauchpad if it is possible02:15
Riddellmeduxa: can you remind me again how many machines meduxa is on/will be on?  I keep forgetting and just saying "lots"02:15
meduxarichard dale (kde dev) is working on that02:15
meduxawe already have deployed about 200 schools02:16
meduxaby the beginning of next scholar year we should have all 1100 schools02:16
meduxabut I don't think we gonna make it02:16
meduxathose are the official numbers02:16
meduxaright now we have meduxa on about 4000 - 5000 computers02:17
giangycool02:17
Riddellis indeed02:18
meduxabut gov have not made public this deployment yet02:18
meduxaI still don't know if they gonna do it in June (before local elections) or after that (in september)02:18
meduxaanyway we already have bug reports from teachers that already know linux02:19
meduxaI think teachers of 15 - 20 schools are already using mEDUXa, but this number is increasing fast02:20
meduxasince we have dual boot02:20
meduxamost teachers don't even know what mEDUXa is until the official release02:21
meduxaspecially in primary schools02:21
meduxawhere teachers have less skills using computers02:22
meduxathat is one of the reasons we NEED a community project, we need to concentrate all teaches and student from the canary islands that knows about linux around one project to help other teachers to use linux02:23
meduxaeven if it is not mEDUXa02:23
meduxawe are talking with colleges and user associations here to build up HeXperides02:24
meduxathe community project of all 3 edu distros from the canary islands (mEDUXa, bardinux and silu, from las palmas college)02:25
=== giangy envious, in Italy anyone want to do this.
meduxawe are defining goals and objetives of the project02:26
meduxawww.hexperides.org02:26
meduxa+ launchpad02:26
meduxais the first step02:26
meduxalets see if we have success02:26
giangymeduxa: IMHO it is already a success.02:27
giangy(especially compared to other countries..)02:27
meduxawe gonna put on a public svn meduxa's code, that is a major goal for us02:27
meduxaif people want to join...perfect, if not, at least the code is there02:28
meduxaand we can join other community project that works02:28
meduxato improve other people job02:29
meduxawhere I work we are determined to go this line02:29
meduxait is the only way to convince local gov linux is the natural choice02:30
meduxawe are a virus, we are already in the computer lab .... lets spread02:30
Riddell:)02:32
Riddellmight not be a good idea to call it that in public :)02:33
meduxait is not02:35
meduxabut is true, it is what we have done in many places, fisrt a web server, then a mail server .......and soon in desktops02:36
meduxajejeje02:36
meduxaI feel virical today02:36
meduxahave to leave...I'll connect this afternoon02:36
meduxabye02:36
Riddelladios02:37
ScottKRiddell: I've started drafting a spec for Kmail S/MIME by default.  Who do I list as approver?  Is the you? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kmail-s-mime02:38
RiddellScottK: yeah, go with me, although in the past I've not been allowed to approve specs02:39
ScottKOK.  I'll do that.02:40
ScottKThanks.02:40
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bddebianHeya03:43
HobbseeBOO!!!03:45
bddebianahhh03:45
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bdmurrayRiddell: ping04:57
Hobbseebdmurray: you're probably after sebas05:02
Riddellhi bdmurray05:02
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bdmurrayHi, yesterday I was looking at a couple of kde bugs and saw that bug 91545 has quite a few dupes05:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91545 in kde-guidance "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV in XRRGetScreenInfo()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9154505:10
Riddellbdmurray: hmm, sime might know more, but a sigsegv from python suggests something deeper than just a problem in the python05:14
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nixternalRiddell: I will get the docs packages finished today and I will get some Fridge stories rolling. I am off today, so I am FREEEEEEEE :)06:42
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bdmurrayIs anybody familiar with kmplayer / kxineplayer?07:19
nixternalnever used the kxineplayer, kmplayer has been a while, what's up?07:22
RiddellI don't think there's much a thing as kxineplayer07:27
Riddellkaffeine and kmplayer have xine backends that we use07:27
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bdmurrayI was looking at duping some kmplayer bugs but the retraced stack trace isn't too informative07:30
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phoenix_wrathfeisty is out yet I am heaving some installation problems with it , can someone shed some light here?07:35
bdmurrayphoenix_wrath: I could talk to you about it on ubuntu-bugs07:35
phoenix_wrathvery well then ,catch you there.07:36
nixternalphoenix_wrath: #kubuntu is where you will get the best answer, or if you want, come back into #ubuntu-chicago and leave the "long live Fedora" cracks out :)07:36
nixternaldo you realise that a KDE distro is #2 on distro-watch right now? they have been steadily climbing over the last couple of months as well07:39
nixternalPCLinuxOS that is. looks are OK, except for the Windows 95 theme. and they have all of the non-free stuff out of the box. so I think they are winning the beginners big time07:41
nixternalmore so than Mepis07:41
ScottKMepis also lags.  Their latest release, IIRC, is based on Dapper.07:41
nixternalyup07:43
nixternalI used Mepis for a little while until I realised that Ubuntu had KDE!07:44
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nixternaldoes Google maps boog up for anyone else with Konqueror?08:11
Riddellsometimes08:21
Riddellit thinks the height is about 2cm08:21
Riddellbut not usually08:21
Tm_Tyup, just resize window08:21
Tm_Tit seems to bug more with bigger window08:22
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nixternalRiddell: yup, that is exactly my problem08:28
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manchickenI think I found something that will help the artsd problem I was having.10:58
manchickenIn the sound system configuration, there's a setting where the sound system will auto-suspend after X time.10:58
manchickenI disabled that so that the sound system will always keep the lock on the audio device.10:59
manchickenI wonder if there's some process that's taking over the sound device when the KDE sound system auto-suspends its lock.10:59
giangynixternal: great.11:03
giangynice session. =)11:03
nixternalthanks giangy11:03
nixternalmy fingers are sore11:03
nixternalwhere is imbrandon ?11:04
nixternalor is somebody taking up the primer for him?11:04
imbrandonone sec11:11
nixternalwoot11:12
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