[12:16] <manchicken> I see a lot of converters for devices under 50W, but my laptop AC adapter is 65W.
[12:16] <manchicken> Though they do have an 85W one.
[12:17] <Lure> manchicken: you just need adapter, so you should be fine with anything
[12:17] <Tonio_> manchicken: hehe cool :)
[12:18] <manchicken> Yeah.
[12:18] <manchicken> I don't need a converter.
[12:18] <manchicken> I'm only seeing converters though on Radio Shack's site.
[12:18] <otma_> i would not use <65W capable converter.
[12:18] <manchicken> I'm not going to.
[12:18] <manchicken> My AC adapter for my lappy is 65W.
[12:19] <manchicken> Wow.  This one's a 1600W adapter
[12:19] <manchicken> err, converter
[12:19] <otma_> now you can take your electric heater with you ;=)
[12:19] <manchicken> Though it's not reccomended for things less than 50W
[12:20] <manchicken> otma_: I could bring my refrigerator with me.
[12:20] <manchicken> Though that may be tough to get through customs.
[12:21] <manchicken> YAY!  I found the adapters!
[12:23] <manchicken> $14.99.
[12:26] <Jannex> kbluetooth seems to be buggy on amd64
[12:27] <Tm_T> hi Jannex
[12:34] <Jannex> Tm_T: Good evening
[12:39] <Tm_T> aagh, what did I press!
[12:49] <Tm_T> nixternal: ping
[12:54] <nixternal> Tm_T: pong?
[12:55] <Tm_T> nixternal: I edited my wikipage and, looks like it did send mail to you (too) about it, and I wonder what is that?!
[12:55] <nixternal> wiki admins get emails to look over and make sure the wiki isn't being spammed
[12:55] <Tm_T> aah
[12:56] <Tm_T> ...so it's normal, good to know
[12:56] <Tm_T> nixternal: ...btw it's worst kind of spam ;)
[12:58] <Tm_T> ok, maybe I edit it more when I have slept
[12:59] <nixternal> hehe
[12:59] <Tm_T> I really don't know what I should mention there, so any ideas welcome
[01:20] <Tm_T> ok, now even more, agh
[01:20] <bdmurray> hello
[01:20] <Tm_T> I stop from today before I really do something stupid ->
[01:47] <xerosis> can anyone recommend a good book for c++/qt?
[01:51] <Tm_T> yes
[01:51] <Tm_T> xerosis: http://dot.kde.org/1098950311/
[01:55] <xerosis> wow, just found the same book but for qt4, whole, on google books
[01:57] <Tm_T> :)
[01:57] <Tm_T> I will buy that one some day soon
[01:57] <Tm_T> Qt4 version I mean
[01:57] <xerosis> http://books.google.com/books?id=tSCR_4LH2KsC&dq=C%2B%2B+GUI+Programming+with+QT+4&pg=PP1&ots=E5-1nS05Ef&sig=cJ_vT_2-Le0UWhHqoQhOGRTaVoY&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3DC%252B%252B%2BGUI%2BProgramming%2Bwith%2BQT%2B4%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26client%3Dfirefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title#PPA4,M1
[01:57] <xerosis> if you want to look
[01:59] <Tm_T> http://books.google.com/books?id=tSCR_4LH2KsC
[01:59] <Tm_T> bit cleaner ;)
[01:59] <xerosis> my bad ;)
[02:00] <xerosis> ah, there's a few pages missing
[02:01] <Tm_T> I don't care, I buy it :)
[02:04] <xerosis> i'm a poor student, i have no money for books!
[02:07] <Tm_T> I'm poor unemployed, soon student, but I'm ready to pay
[02:12] <jhutchins> Are we aware that kubuntu.com is not responding?
[02:12] <Tm_T> yes
[02:13] <Tm_T> datacenter has been nuked
[02:13] <Tm_T> or something ;)
[02:13] <jhutchins> Tisk.  Good luck, sorry to bother y'all.
[09:34] <Tm_T> Jucato: hmm, like to be "hc helper" in #kubuntu ?
[09:35] <Jucato> hc helper?
[09:35] <Tm_T> Jucato: poke LjL about -meta ;)
[09:36] <Tm_T> I think you would be great user for his experimental system
[09:36] <Jucato> translation: guinea pig? :D
[09:52] <giangy> 'morning guys
[10:38] <Tm_T> evening Hobbsee
[10:38] <ajmitch> Hobbsee!
[10:38] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T, ajmitch
[10:38] <Hobbsee> my brain hurts
[10:39] <Hobbsee> too many assignments
[10:39] <ajmitch> aw
[10:40] <Hobbsee> and a proper write up for one particular experiment, which, you guessed it...i wont be there for.  which they didnt document in the study guide either.  grumble.
[10:41] <ajmitch> surely you wouldn't go & miss uni? :)
[10:42] <allee> morning
[10:45] <Hobbsee> heh
[10:45] <Hobbsee> no, no, of course not.  i live dual lives.
[10:45] <Hobbsee> in multiple places at once
[01:18] <Riddell> nixternal: when you find yourself not otherwise busy, fridge stories for dlink and kubuntu sponsoring akademy would be uber cool
[01:18] <Riddell> nixternal: also where are we on kubuntu-docs update, it needed the changelog expanded last I remember
[01:22] <cmvo> Riddell and all: Although a bit late, congratulations and thanks for another fine release of kubuntu.
[01:23] <Riddell> thanks cmvo!
[01:25] <cmvo> Riddell: You're welcome :-) I couldn't do a much testing as I wanted, but there is always gutsy...
[01:26] <Riddell> certainly is
[01:27] <Hobbsee> and one day i'll learn that it really isnt gusty...
[01:27] <cmvo> Riddell: Would you object to a config file for kdm in /etc/default for not automatically starting kdm?
[01:32] <Riddell> cmvo: no, so long as that wasn't the default of course
[01:34] <cmvo> Riddell: No, not as default, but it would be handy sometimes to have that option without having to rename the init script.
[01:35] <cmvo> Riddell: When I got the time I'll do a patch and send it your way if you don't mind.
[01:35] <cmvo> Riddell: Got to go, cul!
[01:36] <Lure> Riddell: no specs for uds? https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/
[01:36] <Riddell> cmvo: sure
[01:37] <Riddell> Lure: they're still only on the private wiki, they'll be moved to launchpad before the conference.  if you want to register specs please do so on launchpad
[01:38] <Lure> Riddell: I am thinking on opensync/kitchensync inclusion, but this would probably need to allign with ubuntu, right?
[01:38] <Riddell> Lure: dunno, does anything else use opensync?
[01:38] <Lure> Riddell: yep, there are gnome front ends
[01:39] <Lure> Riddell: and backends for all kind of devices and PIM (evolution, kdepim...)
[01:39] <Lure> Riddell: it was briefly discussed on uds-mtv (I think lifeless and Mithrandir are interested in these)
[01:40] <Riddell> mm, so some coordination would be good
[01:40] <Lure> Riddell: right
[01:40] <Riddell> if you want to register a spec and will it out with "make sure these package all work..." I can get it looked over at UDS
[01:41] <Lure> Riddell: problem is that I will be sailing the week of UDS and w/o internet for most of next week
[01:41] <Lure> Riddell: but can open spec at least with basic info
[01:42] <Lure> Riddell: when is private specs supposed to get public?
[01:42] <Riddell> Lure: dunno, before the conference is all I know
[01:42] <Riddell> I've posted the list of kubuntu ones
[01:42] <Lure> Riddell: where?
[01:44] <Riddell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17624/
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Lure: sailing?
[01:54] <Riddell> on his way to akademy I'm sure :)
[01:54] <Hobbsee> ahh
[01:54] <Lure> Hobbsee: yep, just back from Venice sailing and another week during uds ;-)
[01:54] <Lure> Riddell: I wish, but I still cannot confirm attendance on akademy :-(
[01:55] <Hobbsee> ahhh :)
[01:56] <Lure> Riddell: will there be meduxa people at uds? then kick kedubuntu please!
[01:56] <Lure> Riddell: what about adept usability (or merge with upstream)?
[01:59] <Riddell> Lure: they will yes, and the edubuntu-kde session is scheduled
[02:00] <meduxa> I will be there
[02:00] <Riddell> Lure: mornfall doesn't seem to have much plans for adept for next 6 months, I don't think there's too much that can be done
[02:00] <Riddell> meduxa: yay!
[02:00] <meduxa> and 2 more guys
[02:01] <Lure> meduxa: great to have you around to push kdedu
[02:01] <meduxa> we will be also al akademy
[02:03] <meduxa> we have to think about how to do it because we have kde-edu from kde...debian-edu using also kde .. we have mEDUXa and bardinux in the canary islands based on kubuntu, we now gonna have kedubuntu...
[02:04] <meduxa> there shoul be a way of coordinate all these efforts
[02:04] <meduxa> assuming the independence of each one of the projects
[02:05] <meduxa> from a content point of view
[02:05] <meduxa> and a educational point of view
[02:05] <meduxa> they are very close (even the same) type of projects
[02:05] <meduxa> they are different mostly from a technical point of view
[02:06] <meduxa> and who is behind each
[02:06] <meduxa> one
[02:07] <meduxa> for a beginner (a teacher) this is not optimal
[02:07] <Riddell> meduxa: edubuntu-kde (never kedubuntu!) won't be a distribution on a CD, it'll just be a meta package avaialable to install
[02:07] <meduxa> look what is happening with gnome based projects
[02:08] <meduxa> specially in spain
[02:08] <Riddell> meduxa: what's bardinux?
[02:08] <meduxa> they don't cooperate much. we should not repeat those mistakes
[02:08] <meduxa> a kubuntu base distro from Tenerife's college
[02:08] <Riddell> meduxa: what dates are you in sevilla?
[02:08] <meduxa> from 3 to 8
[02:08] <meduxa> of may
[02:10] <Riddell> meduxa: will you be at the conference all day on 8th?  or leaving sometime during that day?
[02:10] <giangy> meduxa: also Spain (Junta de Andalucia) provide Guadalinex, isn't it also KDE-based?
[02:11] <Riddell> giangy: it's gnome I'm sure
[02:11] <meduxa> leaving on 8th
[02:11] <meduxa> at 17
[02:12] <Riddell> meduxa: ok, I'll ask to have meduxa sessions scheduled before then
[02:12] <giangy> Riddell: ah mh, true.. (I see an old image, http://www.guadalinex.org/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/album01/Escritorio_live.png and icon set...heh)
[02:12] <meduxa> guadalinux, linex, molinux, asturlinux, lliurex and catix
[02:12] <meduxa> are based on gnome
[02:12] <meduxa> max has both desktop
[02:12] <meduxa> ok
[02:12] <giangy> meduxa: ok, understand
[02:14] <meduxa> I just sent this morning the final report/memory of mEDUXa 1.2
[02:14] <meduxa> to local Gov
[02:14] <meduxa> hopefully I'll be able to translate the more interesting parts for UES
[02:15] <meduxa> and show some code. We want to publish all in Lauchpad if it is possible
[02:15] <Riddell> meduxa: can you remind me again how many machines meduxa is on/will be on?  I keep forgetting and just saying "lots"
[02:15] <meduxa> richard dale (kde dev) is working on that
[02:16] <meduxa> we already have deployed about 200 schools
[02:16] <meduxa> by the beginning of next scholar year we should have all 1100 schools
[02:16] <meduxa> but I don't think we gonna make it
[02:16] <meduxa> those are the official numbers
[02:17] <meduxa> right now we have meduxa on about 4000 - 5000 computers
[02:17] <giangy> cool
[02:18] <Riddell> is indeed
[02:18] <meduxa> but gov have not made public this deployment yet
[02:18] <meduxa> I still don't know if they gonna do it in June (before local elections) or after that (in september)
[02:19] <meduxa> anyway we already have bug reports from teachers that already know linux
[02:20] <meduxa> I think teachers of 15 - 20 schools are already using mEDUXa, but this number is increasing fast
[02:20] <meduxa> since we have dual boot
[02:21] <meduxa> most teachers don't even know what mEDUXa is until the official release
[02:21] <meduxa> specially in primary schools
[02:22] <meduxa> where teachers have less skills using computers
[02:23] <meduxa> that is one of the reasons we NEED a community project, we need to concentrate all teaches and student from the canary islands that knows about linux around one project to help other teachers to use linux
[02:23] <meduxa> even if it is not mEDUXa
[02:24] <meduxa> we are talking with colleges and user associations here to build up HeXperides
[02:25] <meduxa> the community project of all 3 edu distros from the canary islands (mEDUXa, bardinux and silu, from las palmas college)
[02:26] <meduxa> we are defining goals and objetives of the project
[02:26] <meduxa> www.hexperides.org
[02:26] <meduxa> + launchpad
[02:26] <meduxa> is the first step
[02:26] <meduxa> lets see if we have success
[02:27] <giangy> meduxa: IMHO it is already a success.
[02:27] <giangy> (especially compared to other countries..)
[02:27] <meduxa> we gonna put on a public svn meduxa's code, that is a major goal for us
[02:28] <meduxa> if people want to join...perfect, if not, at least the code is there
[02:28] <meduxa> and we can join other community project that works
[02:29] <meduxa> to improve other people job
[02:29] <meduxa> where I work we are determined to go this line
[02:30] <meduxa> it is the only way to convince local gov linux is the natural choice
[02:30] <meduxa> we are a virus, we are already in the computer lab .... lets spread
[02:32] <Riddell> :)
[02:33] <Riddell> might not be a good idea to call it that in public :)
[02:35] <meduxa> it is not
[02:36] <meduxa> but is true, it is what we have done in many places, fisrt a web server, then a mail server .......and soon in desktops
[02:36] <meduxa> jejeje
[02:36] <meduxa> I feel virical today
[02:36] <meduxa> have to leave...I'll connect this afternoon
[02:36] <meduxa> bye
[02:37] <Riddell> adios
[02:38] <ScottK> Riddell: I've started drafting a spec for Kmail S/MIME by default.  Who do I list as approver?  Is the you? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kmail-s-mime
[02:39] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah, go with me, although in the past I've not been allowed to approve specs
[02:40] <ScottK> OK.  I'll do that.
[02:40] <ScottK> Thanks.
[03:43] <bddebian> Heya
[03:45] <Hobbsee> BOO!!!
[03:45] <bddebian> ahhh
[04:57] <bdmurray> Riddell: ping
[05:02] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: you're probably after sebas
[05:02] <Riddell> hi bdmurray
[05:10] <bdmurray> Hi, yesterday I was looking at a couple of kde bugs and saw that bug 91545 has quite a few dupes
[05:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91545 in kde-guidance "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV in XRRGetScreenInfo()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91545
[05:14] <Riddell> bdmurray: hmm, sime might know more, but a sigsegv from python suggests something deeper than just a problem in the python
[06:42] <nixternal> Riddell: I will get the docs packages finished today and I will get some Fridge stories rolling. I am off today, so I am FREEEEEEEE :)
[07:19] <bdmurray> Is anybody familiar with kmplayer / kxineplayer?
[07:22] <nixternal> never used the kxineplayer, kmplayer has been a while, what's up?
[07:27] <Riddell> I don't think there's much a thing as kxineplayer
[07:27] <Riddell> kaffeine and kmplayer have xine backends that we use
[07:30] <bdmurray> I was looking at duping some kmplayer bugs but the retraced stack trace isn't too informative
[07:35] <phoenix_wrath> feisty is out yet I am heaving some installation problems with it , can someone shed some light here?
[07:35] <bdmurray> phoenix_wrath: I could talk to you about it on ubuntu-bugs
[07:36] <phoenix_wrath> very well then ,catch you there.
[07:36] <nixternal> phoenix_wrath: #kubuntu is where you will get the best answer, or if you want, come back into #ubuntu-chicago and leave the "long live Fedora" cracks out :)
[07:39] <nixternal> do you realise that a KDE distro is #2 on distro-watch right now? they have been steadily climbing over the last couple of months as well
[07:41] <nixternal> PCLinuxOS that is. looks are OK, except for the Windows 95 theme. and they have all of the non-free stuff out of the box. so I think they are winning the beginners big time
[07:41] <nixternal> more so than Mepis
[07:41] <ScottK> Mepis also lags.  Their latest release, IIRC, is based on Dapper.
[07:43] <nixternal> yup
[07:44] <nixternal> I used Mepis for a little while until I realised that Ubuntu had KDE!
[08:11] <nixternal> does Google maps boog up for anyone else with Konqueror?
[08:21] <Riddell> sometimes
[08:21] <Riddell> it thinks the height is about 2cm
[08:21] <Riddell> but not usually
[08:21] <Tm_T> yup, just resize window
[08:22] <Tm_T> it seems to bug more with bigger window
[08:28] <nixternal> Riddell: yup, that is exactly my problem
[10:58] <manchicken> I think I found something that will help the artsd problem I was having.
[10:58] <manchicken> In the sound system configuration, there's a setting where the sound system will auto-suspend after X time.
[10:59] <manchicken> I disabled that so that the sound system will always keep the lock on the audio device.
[10:59] <manchicken> I wonder if there's some process that's taking over the sound device when the KDE sound system auto-suspends its lock.
[11:03] <giangy> nixternal: great.
[11:03] <giangy> nice session. =)
[11:03] <nixternal> thanks giangy
[11:03] <nixternal> my fingers are sore
[11:04] <nixternal> where is imbrandon ?
[11:04] <nixternal> or is somebody taking up the primer for him?
[11:11] <imbrandon> one sec
[11:12] <nixternal> woot