[12:09] <meatballhat> sorrrryyyyy ..... I'm waaay lame
[12:09] <meatballhat> in and outta here ... left Xchat open accidentally  :(
[12:10] <meatballhat> BHSPitMonkey: I'll catch up with you soon ... I promise  :D
[12:29] <Robster_> hey anyone still alive in here
[12:29] <Burgwork> never
[12:37] <jenda> Robster_: you just missed Dan
[12:37] <jenda> And now you'll miss me ;) Good night.
[12:38] <Robster_> ok bye
[03:39] <boredandblogging> jenda: ping
[12:17] <jenda> boredandblogging: pong!
[12:48] <jenda> boredandblogging: thanks for the email :)
[12:49] <jenda> boredandblogging: I'll try to hunt teh guy down.
[01:16] <juliux> jenda, ping ping ping
[01:24] <jenda> juliux: pongpongpongpongponpgongpongp
[02:36] <jenda> juliux: I edited your shirt post a tiny bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2544905
[02:36] <jenda> added link to NL's forum thread
[02:36] <juliux> jenda, thxs
[02:37] <jenda> 
[02:38] <juliux> hehe i only understand every second or third word on the dutch forum;)
[02:38] <jenda> hehe
[02:39] <jenda> juliux: I'll be calling the printer guy now - I'm deciding between 2, 3 or 4 thousand Ubuntu stickers and 500 or 1000 Kubuntu - will you be taking any?
[02:39] <juliux> jenda, i will take 1000 ubuntu
[02:39] <juliux> but no more kubuntus
[02:39] <jenda> OK
[02:39] <jenda> coolio
[02:39] <jenda> ok, thanks - it'll have to be 4000, then.
[03:31] <jenda> MenZa: How much would you be willing to pay for A2 posters? :)
[03:31] <MenZa> Hmm, I dunno :o
[03:32] <jenda> I'm haggling with the printer now ;)
[03:32] <MenZa> like, 100 czk?
[03:32] <MenZa> or something
[03:32] <MenZa> (end-user price)
[03:32] <jenda> mhm...
[03:32] <jenda> And how much would _you_ be willing to pay and how many would you like to buy? :)
[03:32] <MenZa> 100 czk :)
[03:33] <MenZa> as I = end-user
[03:33] <jenda> 1 piece?
[03:33] <MenZa> and probably 2-3
[03:33] <MenZa> provided my economy could take it ;D
[03:33] <jenda> hehe
[03:33] <jenda> 100 CZK is a good price on my end - I'd probably give it to you for less... but that's without shipping.
[03:34] <jenda> The problem is, I don't have the cash to buy them :-D
[03:34] <jenda> well, I might have just enough once my dad pays me a part of his debt... ;)
[03:36] <MenZa> jenda: D:
[03:36] <MenZa> What does the printer want you to pay?
[03:36] <jenda> Well, not much - about 220 for 200 posters
[03:37] <jenda> but the international shipping will at be insane on that.
[03:37] <MenZa> yeah
[03:37] <MenZa> but that's up to your buyers to pay ;)
[03:37] <MenZa> or you could have like... one person in the us and one person in asia selling them
[03:37] <MenZa> and one in australia
[03:37] <MenZa> and send them a ****load of bpoters etach
[03:37] <MenZa> posters*
[03:37] <MenZa> ;)
[03:38] <jenda> My guess: 50 posters - 50 shipping ; 10 posters - 20 shipping... 1-3 posters - 10
[03:39] <jenda> The problem is - I'll have trouble selling 200 posters at those prices.
[03:39] <jenda> meatballhat: interested in posters? :)
[03:39] <MenZa> hmm
[03:39] <meatballhat> always ... you need takers?
[03:39] <MenZa> jenda: think it'll be difficult?
[03:40] <jenda> The problem is - France wants 50 posters. If I had just 50 posters made, the price would be 200
[03:40] <jenda> So I need to get at least 100 or 200 so the price goes down so that France can get their 50 for a reasonable price.
[03:40] <meatballhat> jenda:  I'll get you some takers ;-)
[03:40] <jenda> meatballhat: you will? :)
[03:40] <jenda> that'd be awesome ;)
[03:43] <jenda> hehehe
[03:44] <jenda> meatballhat: you guys could save on the shipping, since I'm already gonna be sending Vorian 1000 stickers.
[03:44] <jenda> (and I assume I could pack that all in one bag)
[03:44] <meatballhat> jenda: right on!!!  we should definitely do that!
[03:44] <jenda> (s/bag/tube/)
[03:45] <meatballhat> s/tube/sock/
[03:45] <jenda> haha
[03:45] <meatballhat> s/sock/monkey
[03:45] <jenda> no, actually, I'll be doing these in tubes, not monkeys ;)
[03:45] <meatballhat> mmmmmm .... tuuuuubes
[03:45] <meatballhat> tubes are the future
[03:56] <jenda> yay, the euro is back up to 28 CZK, that's good news ;)
[04:16] <jenda> I overestimated the shipping there by a factor of 2.5
[04:49] <juliux> jenda, 50 poster == 50 sounds good for me
[04:49] <jenda> juliux: that was the shipping :/
[04:50] <juliux> jenda, ahhh
[04:50] <jenda> but only my bad estimate :)
[04:50] <juliux> jenda, i thought this was the total price;)
[04:50] <jenda> the shipping is 19 for 50 posters
[04:50] <jenda> and the price about 80 + 19
[04:51] <juliux> jenda, are the poster 4/4 colors?
[04:52] <jenda> they are the exact same as the previous batch
[04:52] <jenda> or should be
[10:05] <juliux> jenda, your work? http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/909
[10:06] <jenda> juliux: no
[10:17] <jenda> atoponce: ping
[11:00] <jenda> nixternal: ping
[11:00] <jenda> nixternal: got any contact info on posingaspopular?
[11:03] <nixternal> yup
[11:03] <nixternal> give me one minute
[11:07] <jenda> found his email, so nevermind - but thanks :)
[11:28] <aoirthoir> jenda, you have posters?
[11:28] <jenda> aoirthoir: always
[11:29] <aoirthoir> jenda, it was advertised in #ubuntu-ohio (the nice ubuntu freenode channel)
[11:29] <aoirthoir> so wats the biz g
[11:29] <aoirthoir> what do they look like? how much do they cost? what are they for? etc 
[11:30] <jenda> hehe
[11:30] <jenda> look like: http://diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-layout.jpg
[11:30] <jenda> Cost... that's a little more complicated. depends on the number and size
[11:30] <jenda> I have A3 and A2 size
[11:31] <jenda> A3 are approx $1 apiece, A2 approx $2.50
[11:32] <jenda> What they're for...
[11:32] <aoirthoir> I dont know what a3 and a2 are..
[11:32] <jenda> I've tried to strike a balance between decoration and marketing purposes - can be used for both.
[11:33] <aoirthoir> ok gotcha.
[11:33] <jenda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size
[11:33] <atoponce> jenda: pong
[11:33] <aoirthoir> jenda, are they foss?
[11:34] <jenda> atoponce: was wonderin' if your LoCo would be interested in case badges, as I'm placing a new order, and several locos have ordered 1000-piece packs.
[11:34] <jenda> (or more, actually)
[11:34] <jenda> each pack like that drops the price for everyone.
[11:34] <atoponce> yeah. i think so. lemme see what Zelut thinks. how much?
[11:34] <aoirthoir> wow badges too? I want to find out about all this stuff g.
[11:34] <aoirthoir> :D
[11:35] <jenda> atoponce: the badges are 10 cents apiece, including shipping (at 1000 pieces)
[11:36] <jenda> atoponce: for your loco, I might be able to manage a similar price even at 500, although it probably would be a bit higher.
[11:36] <jenda> atoponce: and chances are it would stick to my canonical price of $60/500 stickers.
[11:38] <atoponce> jenda: yeah. cool. zelut isn't responding, so i'll get back to you on it. maybe you could send us an email?
[11:38] <jenda> atoponce: sure, what's zelut's?
[11:43] <aoirthoir> ok i tried to read that wiki article through
[11:43] <aoirthoir> But pretty much what I gather is that a2 and a3 have something to do with germany?
[11:44] <aoirthoir> And some 4x2 ratio or something.
[11:50] <jenda> heh
[11:51] <jenda> "Successive paper sizes in the series A1, A2, A3, etc., are defined by halving the preceding paper size parallel to its shorter side. The most frequently used paper size is A4 (210  297 mm)."
[11:51] <jenda> The A3 is: 297  420 mm
[11:51] <aoirthoir> ah letter size
[11:51] <aoirthoir> bigger sizes would be inconvenient as letter size
[11:51] <jenda> The A2 is: 420 mm  594 mm
[11:51] <jenda> huh?
[11:52] <aoirthoir> ok got to convert
[11:52] <aoirthoir> well anything larger than 210x297 would be kinda big to send letters in the post
[11:52] <jenda> i have no idea what you're saying. Letter size is a little shorter than the A4, AFAIK
[11:52] <jenda> ah
[11:52] <jenda> ye
[11:52] <jenda> s
[11:52] <aoirthoir> yes it is.
[11:52] <aoirthoir> i know cause ubuntu kept setting up all my printers as a4
[11:52] <aoirthoir> even when I would change them to letter size
[11:53] <aoirthoir> 16.5inches x
[11:54] <aoirthoir> 23 inches
[11:54] <aoirthoir> hey! those are just about poster size!
[11:54] <jenda> :D
[11:54] <aoirthoir> ok so the biggun is 250? and how many do folks have to order and is it foss? and can you put your own information on it?
[11:54] <jenda> imagine two sheets of letter size paper for the A3 and four for the A2
[11:55] <jenda> You can't edit them - they are cheap because they are done in bulk.
[11:55] <aoirthoir> thats pretty big
[11:55] <aoirthoir> do I have to order a lot of them?
[11:55] <jenda> You can order just 1, but you'll be paying much more for the shipping than for the poster.
[11:55] <jenda> And you won't make me happy :)
[11:55] <jenda> Imagine if I had to pack every single one of the 200 posters individually.
[11:56] <aoirthoir> ok so really this is for folks to order in kinda bulk.
[11:56] <aoirthoir> that might take me a while then:)
[11:57] <aoirthoir> but i love the idea
[11:57] <aoirthoir> jenda, if you had like a little white block on it..folks could put loco stickers on it and post them places.
[11:58] <jenda> hmm
[11:58] <jenda> You could just as well print out nice white stickers and paste them on it.
[12:00] <jenda> aoirthoir: if you order one A3 poster, it'll cost you $7 - if you order 10, it'll cost $20.
[12:00] <jenda> so yes, it's better if bought in bulk.
[12:00] <jenda> I've already sent out 550 A3 posters - the A2s are new.