[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> just checking why he doesn't have write access to the drive.
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you alright there, levi_?
[12:20] <levi_> and to reconnect i have to reboot
[12:20] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[12:20] <Daisuke_Ido> reboot?
[12:20] <levi_> yeah
[12:20] <Filthpig> you're a fast rebooter, then
[12:20] <Filthpig> hehe
[12:20] <levi_> along with the fact that I can no longer play videos
[12:20] <levi_> and something just failed miserably with wireless assistants Dcops
[12:21] <levi_> Im sort of lost as to why
[12:21] <levi_> its not like I go touching anything
[12:21] <levi_> but anyway lets tackle one problem at a  timr
[12:21] <levi_> *e
[12:22] <levi_> Whatd you say I should do to write to my Disk?
[12:22] <levi_> Daisuke_Ido,
[12:23] <Arwen> w00t for /exec :-)
[12:23] <Alarm> why sometimes when i go on a window and press on administration mode, or open the adept manager , the application never asks me for the sudo password (which has as an effect not allowing me to go on)
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> alrighty then
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> levi_: hit alt+f2 and enter kate /etc/fstab
[12:24] <levi_> k
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> copy the contents of that file to pastebin and submit, then give us the URL :)
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> and in case you missed it
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !pastebin | levi_
[12:24] <ubotu> levi_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <levi_> should I run it with Sudo?
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[12:24] <levi_> mmk
[12:24] <levi_> and thx
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[12:25] <levi_> Wish me luck on loading this page!
[12:26] <levi_> Okay.. is this what youd need? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18034/
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> you should be okay
[12:27] <jew> Me needs help w/ mpeg4 support in mplayer
[12:27] <levi_> same here in kaffiene
[12:27] <Daisuke_Ido> which drive is it that you're having issues with, hdb1 or hdd1?
[12:27] <adaptr> youse need xivd plugins
[12:27] <levi_> or as for anywhere else for that matter mp4s wont play on any program
[12:27] <jewski> where do i need to place the codecs directory
[12:27] <levi_> hdd1
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> well...  you have auto and noauto set, which is odd
[12:29] <jewski> I have the essential codecs pack from mplayer site. could someone please tell me where it should be placed.
[12:29] <acemo> anyone knows how i check the current length of an array in bash scripts?
[12:29] <adaptr> nowhere... get it from the repos
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> jewski: why didn't you just install them from the repos?
[12:29] <jewski> what is it named
[12:30] <levi_> mplay.hu gives you repos
[12:30] <levi_> *mplayer.hu
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> no, install from the OFFICIAL repos
[12:30] <levi_> that IS the official site
[12:30] <jewski> I dont see the codecs from any repository i see the mplayer package though
[12:30] <levi_> arent they official repos then?
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu repos
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> those are the official ones :)
[12:31] <navajo> medibuntu
[12:31] <navajo> win32codec
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> medibuntu's good
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> levi_: open your fstab with kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:33] <levi_> kay
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> you should be fine with defaults on hdd1
[12:34] <levi_> ..
[12:34] <levi_> its identical
[12:34] <levi_> what was the point of that
[12:34] <levi_> Oh
[12:34] <levi_> Edit it
[12:34] <levi_> dur.
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> try /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[12:35] <levi_> that exact line insert over the old one?
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[12:35] <levi_> just making sure =)
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> save it and go to a terminal
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> konsole or whatever your terminal of choice is
[12:36] <Arwen> is nvraid fakeraid?
[12:37] <Daisuke_Ido> levi_: sudo mount -a
[12:37] <JohnFlux> !kernel
[12:37] <levi_> okay
[12:37] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:37] <levi_> hmm
[12:37] <levi_> tried to munt the wrong device
[12:38] <levi_> *mount
[12:38] <levi_> cant I just go to it through konqurer and mount it there?
[12:38] <sdf_> what is the difference between gcc base and gcc ????
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> mount -a tries to mount all devices in fstab
[12:38] <levi_> I see.
[12:39] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /media/hdd1 && touch newfile
[12:40] <Arwen> sdf_, gcc-base is gcc without the gcc part
[12:40] <Arwen> sdf_, install the real gcc
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> levi_: then just ls to see if newfile exists.  if it does, it probably worked
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sure there's a more elegant way, i just don't know what it is
[12:41] <sdf_> arwen:g++ like gcc and what is the differenece between them??
[12:41] <Arwen> g++ is gcc for C++
[12:41] <Arwen> just install 'build-essential' - it'll take care of all this for you
[12:43] <weswh-> hmm, I just got an error during the Fesity upgrade, that it couldn't upgrade something related to samba (i don't even use samba). It said something like "the upgrade will abort..." I thought it meant just that package. but now there is nothing happening in the terminal view, and things have paused at 57% - what am I supposed to do?
[12:45] <weswh-> this is crazy. when I try to close the upgrade (with the thought of restarting it) it says the system may be in an unusable state, it is advised to resume the upgrade. great, resume then. heh
[12:45] <jbasilio> weswh-: drop to command line if you know how and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:46] <jbasilio> cntrl-alt-f1 .. or cycle through f1, f2, etc until you find a command line
[12:46] <levi_> IO cant touch the newfile
[12:46] <levi_> *I
[12:46] <levi_> I need to mount my drive
[12:47] <pete__> hia, any idea how i can change resoluton in kubuntu 7.04 with PS3... it defaults something VERY low and cant see half the options :/
[12:47] <weswh-> jbasilio: don't know "how" to do it...if i just run that, is it pretty explanatory?
[12:48] <Skyblast> Why doesn't a right click menu on rar files allow them to be extracted in Feisty? I have to open then up in Ark and extract there
[12:49] <Maxdamantus> Aw. Flash 8 won't install. :(
[12:49] <Arwen> Maxdamantus, haha
[12:49] <weswh-> it has my administration directory locked. /var/lib/dpkg. any idea how to kill whatever the upgrader was doing?
[12:49] <dope> is there a website I can go to to see what cable company is available in my area for internet?
[12:49] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay
[12:49] <jbasilio> weswh-: it's pretty self-explanatory ... you'll get a list of all packages that will be updated and then it'll just go
[12:49] <Maxdamantus> I'll install it using the Gentoo LiveCD and copy the Windows registry over, and see if that works.
[12:49] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1
[12:50] <jbasilio> weswh-: ps -ef | grep dpkg probably
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> hdd?
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> On ubuntu, they're all called sd*
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Maxdamantus: not for you
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> and only since feisty
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> edgy still uses the hd*
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> Why did they do that then?
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> I like hd*
[12:51] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, wait, even ATA hard drives are sd* in Feisty?
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it was a change in the kernel
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> And sd* for USB, etc.
[12:51] <levi_> uirgh... forget it ill do it through system setting applet
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: yep
[12:51] <weswh-> jbasilio: wow, that returned a mountain of information
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> sd for everything
[12:51] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, yay?
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i like it
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> simplifies things :D
[12:51] <jbasilio> weswh-: ps did you mean?
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> but i also liked having hd and sd
[12:52] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, hmm, dist-upgrade failed to update my fstab so that was annoying :-\
[12:52] <weswh-> jbasilio: yes
[12:52] <Arwen> of course, my ATA devices were CD-ROMs so it wasn't a big deal
[12:52] <jbasilio> weswh-: can you quit out of the installer w/o quitting off the boot cd?  that way it'll exit out of dpkg processes?
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> probably still /dev/cdrom
[12:52] <levi_> wait it IS alerady mounted!
[12:52] <jbasilio> weswh-: otherwise do kill <number> on each process ...
[12:52] <levi_> Already*
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> levi_: is that good?
[12:52] <weswh-> jbasilio: i am on an installed system
[12:53] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, ye... but fstab had hd* entries for my CD-ROMs
[12:53] <levi_> well iunno lesse
[12:53] <bradley1970> hello
[12:53] <jbasilio> weswh-: oh, ok.  then what's running dpkg?  are you still in the graphical upgrader?
[12:53] <bradley1970> how do i run wine on ubuntu
[12:53] <levi_> x.x brb
[12:53] <weswh-> i dropped out to term, no - i exited the graphical installer
[12:54] <weswh-> well, when I did that ps command in the pure term, i couldn't even make sense of it. going to try it in a GUI term
[12:54] <jbasilio> weswh-: dpkg shouldn't be running if you have exited any apps that were helping you with your upgrade.  not synaptic or adept or anything, right?
[12:55] <weswh-> it's all exited. when the upgrader had the error, it must have hung it up
[12:55] <weswh-> ok, when I do the ps, I see two things, one by root, one by my user
[12:55] <weswh-> after root it lists literally a few hundred .deb paths
[12:57] <weswh-> root 16871 5914 1, user 19619 19602 0
[12:57] <weswh-> those are the "numbers" it reports - are all of those processes I need to kill?
[12:58] <jbasilio> weswh-: the first number is the process number .. so kill <number>
[12:58] <jbasilio> weswh-: see if it dies.  if it doesn't, kill -9 <number>
[12:58] <Arwen> and if kill -9 doesn't work, reboot
[12:58] <jbasilio> weswh-: only for the processes with dpkg in them tho!
[12:59] <jbasilio> Arwen: he's trying to avoid reboot since he's in a weird upgrade state
[12:59] <jbasilio> weswh-: you might need to sudo kill too .. see what you can do as normal user first though
[12:59] <pafnutiy> hi all! sorry, im new in ubuntu, but i my media players dont play videos from LAN. can anyone help me?
[01:00] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: i had digital working with mythtv before with turtle beach riviera.  had to go into alsamixer and enable it though .. was a pain to figure that out
[01:00] <Arwen> pafnutiy, define "from LAN"
[01:00] <jbasilio> pafnutiy: they play locally though?  lan shouldn't matter
[01:01] <pafnutiy> yes, they play local files normally
[01:01] <jbasilio> pafnutiy: shouldn't matter, especially in kde ... what app?  have you tried any other apps?  (i.e. kmplayer, kaffeine)
[01:02] <BluesKaj> jbasilio: I had it working in feisty beta , but it stopped once i upgraded to the final release :(... Ididn't change anything in alsa , that what's so frustrating
[01:02] <pafnutiy> i used totem, aviplayer and MPlayer
[01:02] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: and you looked at alsamixer again?
[01:02] <jbasilio> pafnutiy: try kaffeine .. those players you mentioned aren't kde apps (i would have still expected they work though)
[01:02] <the_hammer> anyone know why with the beta version i get the nvidia splash screen but in the finnal i dont get that?
[01:03] <pafnutiy> thanks all
[01:03] <jbasilio> pafnutiy: how are you accessing the network?  smb:// or /network/share ?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> jbasilio: i've ben trying to get the IEC958 settings to work, but no luck
[01:03] <Arwen> the_hammer, do you really want an annoying splash screen?
[01:03] <the_hammer> just so i know that its working and install correctly yeah
[01:03] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: that sucks ... if you are using alsamixer that's what i used as well
[01:03] <BluesKaj> BTW the hardware conn is fine , i just checked in windows
[01:04] <noiesmo> the_hammer, open terminal type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep nvidia should return nvidia also lsmod | grep nvidia should return a couple results then you should be running nvidia driver
[01:04] <levi_> back
[01:05] <BluesKaj> yup alsa 'was working" ...emphasis on "was"
[01:05] <the_hammer> root@duocore2:/# /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep nvidia
[01:05] <the_hammer> bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[01:05] <noiesmo> the_hammer, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep nvidia
[01:06] <weswh-> jbasilio: I am running a dpkg --configure -a now, so hopefully that will let me get back into the upgrade process...earlier like I said it errored on Samba. how can I check my system for all running processes, and kill anything that is going on that I don't need before I start over?
[01:06] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/461948
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome back, levi_
[01:07] <levi_> thaks
[01:07] <levi_> n
[01:07] <jbasilio> weswh-: shouldn't have to kill anything .. just dpkg stuff.  all other things will be handled just fine.  had the upgrade completed and that's why you are configuring?  b/c i would recommend apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:07] <levi_> but my drive still wont be writeable
[01:08] <BluesKaj> jbasilio: I have fine sound on my pc sound system, but I want to pipe the PCM audio to my HT Receiver in the TV room.
[01:08] <weswh-> no, I was at 57% of the configuration point (still stage 3 of the upgrade overall), and it popped up an error and this one failed, upgrade aborted. and then it just sat there, when i tried to exit it said exiting before this is done is not recommended, but there was no terminal readout, so I was just dead in the water
[01:09] <weswh-> after I killed those processes, ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and it said dpkg was canceled incorrectly or something. run the configure
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmmm
[01:09] <weswh-> so I am trying to get back to the point where I can run the dist-upgrade again
[01:09] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: gotcha.  i had myth piped into my receiver in my living room as well.  i run windows media center now though due to xbox integration.  i suck  :)
[01:09] <jbasilio> weswh-: ahh.  ok.  good.  you are on the right track
[01:10] <weswh-> somehow I feel like I'll be starting from scratch a little later. heh
[01:10] <jbasilio> weswh-: you'll be ok.  dpkg is pretty damn solid.
[01:10] <weswh-> which is ok...the only reason i waited until now to upgrade was backing up data. cool.
[01:10] <luca> good day everyone
[01:10] <jbasilio> weswh-: i tihnk the only way you can really mess things up bad is by --forceing things
[01:10] <levi_> Hi
[01:10] <weswh-> this configure takes a while...any idea how long? as in, should I go eat some dinner. hehe
[01:10] <jbasilio> luca: 'allo
[01:10] <jbasilio> weswh-: yeah, the whole upgrade is kind of slow
[01:11] <luca> can someone help me in configuring standby for a Dell Inspiron 6400 with KDE?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> nothing wrong with using what works jbasilio... I'm not a windows hater as much as i feel more secure on linux :)
[01:11] <luca> hi jbasilio
[01:11] <luca> btw, standby works flawlessly with gnome!
[01:12] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: yeah.  mythtv rules in terms of features and openness .. you can do anything, play anything.  but it's not QUITE as polished
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone better with diagnosing fstab problems than me?
[01:12] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: windows vista MCE is pretty great for the easy stuff ... but it's not nearly as open, restricive in codecs ... but it hits my 95% case and my wife is happy
[01:13] <jbasilio> Daisuke_Ido: maybe .. what's up?
[01:15] <Arwen> lol @ wife.... keep lying to yourself :-)
[01:15] <BluesKaj> gotta keep wifey happy ...she loves the fact i can do more tovid then nero when it comes to movies
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> jbasilio: trying to get one of levi_'s drives to be writable
[01:15] <froggie> hi
[01:15] <froggie> /.local/share/Trash/files$ sudo rm -d Blue
[01:15] <froggie> rm: cannot remove `Blue': Is a directory
[01:15] <BluesKaj> with tovid than nero
[01:16] <froggie> any idea why this actually isnt working?
[01:16] <Arwen> froggie, rm -rf
[01:16] <Arwen> rm -d rarely ever works
[01:16] <froggie> ohh :) thanx
[01:16] <BluesKaj> hey froggie , careful there :)
[01:16] <froggie> =)
[01:16] <jbasilio> Arwen: ??  used to have tivo .. MCE is much closer to tivo.  she uses linux as desktop b/c that's all i have.  :)
[01:16] <pete__> Can anyone help me get this thing run higher than 720x468 resolution @ PS3. Cant see half the config windows :/ any file i could mod to default to higher resolution ?
[01:16] <Arwen> jbasilio, again... "wife".... keep lying to yourself there :-)
[01:16] <Skyblast> Arwen's been throwing witless comments at people all day long. Don't mind him.
[01:17] <Arwen> pete__, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <jbasilio> Arwen: ?? don't understand what you mean.  but if it makes you smile .. ok.  :)
[01:17] <pete__> ah, so its the same file as in YDL
[01:17] <jbasilio> levi_: what's the drive issue?
[01:17] <Arwen> jbasilio, ..
[01:19] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: not sure if you got that in the other channel .. registering
[01:19] <BluesKaj> i'm registerd
[01:20] <jbasilio> BluesKaj: so am i .. but i forget my password.  :) trying to figure it out
[01:20] <BluesKaj> NM , someone already made the comment iwas going to
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> How can I use the sound system for multiple things at the same time?
[01:29] <Arwen> Maxdamantus, have a sound mixer
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> I've selected to use ALSA, but it still does it.
[01:30] <Arwen> try arts or esd
[01:30] <Kr4t05> I just reinstalled Feisty, and my scrollwheel stopped working. What would I need to do with my xorg.conf to get it back?
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> esd seems to work.
[01:31] <jbasilio> Maxdamantus: what are you trying to do at the same time?
[01:32] <weswh-> jbasilio: still around? I ran the dist-upgrade again, seemed to go ok that time. ran it again to check, and it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded...guess that means it's all in?
[01:32] <weswh-> now i should reboot to boot up with the new kernel, etc?
[01:32] <jbasilio> weswh-: you're all in!
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> Wasn't playing multiple sounds at the same time.
[01:32] <jbasilio> weswh-: it's the moment of truth .. if we don't see you back in 5 minutes .. well .. good luck.  :)
[01:33] <weswh-> is there some place i can do a "show version" kind of thing where it will say "Fesity Fawn 7.04"? hehe
[01:33] <TheDebugger> Yes
[01:33] <Arwen> Maxdamantus, that means your sound card doesn't have a hardware mixer and you need a software one like esd :-)
[01:33] <TheDebugger> lsb_release -a  (iirc)
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Yea, it works with esd, thanks.
[01:33] <jbasilio> weswh-: or lsb_release -d
[01:34] <acemo> in wich folder does konqueror searches for plugins?
[01:34] <weswh-> awesome, all looks good
[01:34] <hsystem-x> weswh click in the k menu and click in help
[01:34] <hsystem-x> there you can see the version.
[01:35] <sdf_> what are the  codecs program for sounds and videos???
[01:35] <weswh-> jbasilio: come on, you don't think I'm smart enough to have a backup IRC lifeline during this reboot? ;)
[01:35] <jbasilio> weswh-: hehe.  smart man!
[01:36] <weswh-> 2.6.20-15...is that different from the edgey kernel?
[01:36] <hsystem-x> why dont you restart ?
[01:36] <hsystem-x> -_-!
[01:37] <jbasilio> weswh-: don't know.  probably though.
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the feisty kernel
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> edgy is 2.6.17
[01:38] <hsystem-x> that's true.
[01:38] <hsystem-x> 17.11?
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[01:39] <hsystem-x> :)
[01:39] <weswh-> well it's back up and running. definitely new and shiny. music plays...internet works. what more can you ask for
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't use edgy now, so i don't know what revision
[01:39] <weswh-> one weird thing when I booted though, it said dist-upgrade (or possibly dist-intall).py, and asked for my kdesu password, but then it said file could not be found...any ideas?
[01:40] <weswh-> maybe that was a holdover from when I tried the GUI upgrade tool
[01:40] <jbasilio> weswh-: when i did an upgrade to the beta, i have RAIDed hard drives .. including boot/root .. it was a disaster
[01:40] <hsystem-x> did you reboot your system wewh already?
[01:40] <weswh-> for some "completed!" box that never got finished
[01:40] <jbasilio> weswh-: had to manually install the RAID packages, chroot .. edit files ... it was horrible.  and this was like 3 weeks before release
[01:40] <hsystem-x> is better to install from 0, upgrades cause problems XD
[01:40] <weswh-> hsystem: yes, i seem to be fine
[01:40] <jbasilio> weswh-: so be happy it booted ... :)  that was the worst feeling.  "uhh .. honey ... remember how you wanted to use the computer?  it's dead"
[01:40] <jarn_> After upgrading to Feisty, I have two problems. First, X seems to be ignoring my config file and won't let me raise my refresh rate past 54, even though I can set it higher. Second, anything download through kget gets REALLY slow rates.
[01:40] <weswh-> so far ;)
[01:41] <weswh-> haha...right on.
[01:41] <weswh-> jbasilio: ouch. yeah this went pretty well...i actually just installed a RAID mirror today - but not as the system drive.
[01:41] <jbasilio> weswh-: RAID is awesome .. with feisty i think they finally support it well.  i've had this setup for years now but i had kind of hacked it in to boot (weren't supposed to be able to have root on RAID)
[01:42] <luca__> anyone who could helkp me with my dell inspiron?
[01:42] <jbasilio> luca__: what's up?
[01:42] <pete__> Any idea why i cant login as root with the same pass as i did my first user with kubuntu + PS3 ? .. seems i cant modify the resolution screen file with this "user" account i can login.
[01:42] <hsystem-x> gnome or kde? which you people think is better?
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you're running kubuntu on a ps3?
[01:42] <hsystem-x> which one*
[01:42] <luca__> jbasilio: standby works flawlessly in gnome, but does not resume properly with kde
[01:43] <luca__> I did a standard ubuntu-kubuntu installation
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> hsystem-x: since this is #kubuntu, you're going to get an overwhelming kde majority :d
[01:43] <hsystem-x> jajaja
[01:43] <pete__> im running kubuntu @ PS3.. or hoping to get it working :)
[01:43] <jbasilio> luca__: ahh .. sorry.  can't help you there.  never did standby stuff.  didn't even know that was desktop specific .. that stinks
[01:43] <Kr4t05> Hahah!
[01:43] <luca__> jbasilio: should not be desktop specific :( that's why I am puzzled
[01:43] <jbasilio> hsystem-x: different strokes for different folks.  which is better .. chocolate or vanilla?
[01:43] <weswh-> jbasilio: do you have a 3ware card?
[01:44] <jbasilio> luca__: maybe look at power management settings in kcontrol .. perhaps something is interfering
[01:44] <pete__> Any PS3 user that could get root login someway ?
[01:44] <jbasilio> weswh-: no .. software RAID if that's what you mean
[01:44] <hsystem-x> is the same to say which is better white people or black people, is the same ?
[01:44] <weswh-> jbasilio: yeah that's what I meant
[01:44] <luca__> jbasilio: ok thanks
[01:44] <acemo> in wich folder does konqueror searches for plugins? for example: flash player plugin
[01:44] <weswh-> I was wondering if you had a 3ware card specifically, I know there is an open source management app for it. gotta find that
[01:44] <jbasilio> hsystem-x: uhh .. yeah i suppose it is the same.  or yellow .. or red.
[01:45] <hsystem-x> XD ... right.
[01:45] <hsystem-x> but if you compare this channel have 376 nicks ... right...
[01:45] <BluesKaj> acemo , in the adressbar type 'about:plugins'
[01:45] <levi_> any idea anyone where I would get some magical way of getting my linksys wireless USB adapter working?
[01:45] <sdf_> i have theme with tar.gz extension how can i install it???
[01:45] <hsystem-x> ubuntu have 1158 XD. i believe that should answer my question XD.
[01:45] <acemo> BluesKaj: thanks for making me feel stupid again :P
[01:46] <pete__> Anyone know how i can login to root in kubuntu @ PS3 "alternate" cd... seems to work nicely but as i cant login as root i cant change the resolution and i cant see half the config windows :/
[01:46] <BluesKaj> don't feel stupid ...no one is stupid ,,,we all need help sooner or later
[01:46] <levi_> mhmm
[01:47] <LettuceJoans> Hello
[01:47] <levi_> hi
[01:47] <acemo> BluesKaj: but i have used about:plugins like million times in opera, so i should have knewn it
[01:47] <jarn_> !pastebin
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[01:47] <acemo> BluesKaj: konqueror only shows the plugin name tho.. ill have to locate the folders myself then ^_^
[01:47] <BluesKaj> we forget some things
[01:47] <hsystem-x> well i hear about fedora core running on ps3, but dont know kubuntu lol.
[01:47] <LettuceJoans> I need to reformat a partition to ect3 what program should I use?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> acemo:  search for it in the konq searchbar
[01:48] <levi_> Any way of getting ANY video to play under Kubuntu 6.06
[01:48] <hsystem-x> dont know, try control + alt + f4, and login .
[01:48] <acemo> BluesKaj: locate -pluginname- ^^
[01:48] <pete__> PLS, any idea ... i can mod the files with my current "user" but if i hit "admin button" it just goes blank. :/
[01:49] <pete__> and i cant save the needed files on this user account :/
[01:49] <levi_> Why not?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> yup acemo, that prolly works
[01:49] <levi_> Save them then cp them :/ *shrug*
[01:49] <xtavaresx> levi_ vlc
[01:49] <jbasilio> signing off.  'night everyone
[01:49] <hsystem-x> pete, control + alt + f4, try to do login in shell.
[01:49] <levi_> Figureing he'she is somewhere not at home.
[01:49] <levi_> night
[01:50] <luca__> night
[01:50] <acemo> BluesKaj: great.. 2 folders with the file :S ohh well.. ill just re-install my moms comp tmr -evil grin-
[01:50] <pete__> levi_: .. well normal user dont have proper write+read in those directories.. thats the problem
[01:50] <levi_> Sure you do
[01:50] <levi_> Sudo cp
[01:50] <hsystem-x> try with sudo commands
[01:50] <levi_> wow I bloody knew something
[01:50] <levi_> xD
[01:51] <pete__> well i could change those with other linux distros np.. ok ill try that
[01:51] <levi_> though I forget what order the syntax is cp desired-directory from-directory
[01:51] <levi_> or frm-directory to desired-directory
[01:51] <levi_> *from
[01:53] <hsystem-x> cp from to
[01:53] <hsystem-x> right.
[01:53] <levi_> thanks
[01:53] <levi_> it slipped my mind
[01:54] <levi_> xD
[01:54] <levi_> whats a bit annoying is that theres no confirmation that the operation was successful
[01:54] <hsystem-x> well if there's no message, = succesful
[01:54] <levi_> I thought that for some reason that nothing registered the first tme I had to use it
[01:54] <hsystem-x> if there was a message = not succesfull lol
[01:54] <levi_> I know that now
[01:55] <levi_> xD
[01:55] <levi_> but at first i re-copied the file about ten times before noticing that it was already there
[01:55] <hsystem-x> lol
[01:55] <hsystem-x> yeah that's maybe bad programming, dependes on which side you look at.
[01:56] <hsystem-x> depends*
[01:56] <levi_> at least it overwrites the old one
[01:56] <pete__> crap. seems i cant do anything with this "user" account.. but i never got to setup a ROOT account either so who the fuck knows the password
[01:56] <Kapricorn> hi all
[01:57] <hsystem-x> it is supposed to be the same pass, that you put in the setup.
[01:57] <Arwen> pete__, don't troll.... your first user is a "sudoer" which means it can run things as root
[01:57] <Kapricorn> I just installed Kunbunto...it detected my USB wireless adapter fine BUT
[01:57] <hsystem-x> you have to do things with sudo command
[01:57] <hsystem-x> but you can log in as root by doing
[01:57] <hsystem-x> sudo passwd
[01:57] <levi_> HOW?!
[01:57] <levi_> ...
[01:57] <levi_> minus caps
[01:57] <hsystem-x> it will ask you for a new password for unix system.
[01:58] <levi_> how was your wireless USB detected?
[01:58] <levi_> thats been bugging me all day xD
[01:58] <Kapricorn> The network Im trying to connect to is in 64bit and knetworkmanager doesn't let me enter the passcode..
[01:58] <hsystem-x> sudo passwd  <- will ask you for your password, then for the password you want to assing to root.
[01:58] <pete__> Arwen, sorry.. i installed this thing on PS3 and first it asked was a user account and now it says i dont have the rights :/
[01:58] <Kapricorn> I plugged t in an it detected it...
[01:58] <levi_> what is it?
[01:58] <Kapricorn> had the driver already installed too!
[01:58] <levi_> What brand?
[01:58] <Kapricorn> I was impressed
[01:59] <Kapricorn> linksys usb54gc
[01:59] <levi_> I speedbooster?
[01:59] <Kapricorn> yep
[01:59] <levi_> thats the exact one I have
[01:59] <levi_> and nothing happens.
[01:59] <Arwen> pete__, for any command that requires root, just type "sudo" before it and enter your user password
[01:59] <levi_> when I insert it
[01:59] <Kapricorn> hmmm
[01:59] <levi_> Worked fine in windows at school
[02:00] <hsystem-x> or if he just wants to login as root, sudo passwd , enter the password for the unix system.
[02:00] <Kapricorn> which version of Kub you using?
[02:00] <hsystem-x> then do su, and put the new password.
[02:00] <levi_> 6.06
[02:00] <hsystem-x> that's the reason
[02:00] <hsystem-x> lvi
[02:00] <hsystem-x> try edgy or feisty
[02:00] <pete__> hmm.. okie, that might help ... any idea what that normal editor command is in kubuntu ? :)
[02:00] <levi_> xD
[02:01] <hsystem-x> use vi
[02:01] <levi_> I cant until my CD comes
[02:01] <Arwen> pete__, "kate"
[02:01] <hsystem-x> pete : use vi
[02:01] <Kapricorn> try 7.04
[02:01] <Arwen> or "vim" or "nano"
[02:01] <levi_> excatly
[02:01] <hsystem-x> vi is better :)
[02:01] <levi_> I cant until my CD comes
[02:01] <levi_> I ordered it
[02:01] <Kapricorn> awesome
[02:01] <hsystem-x> but you need to know the commands :)
[02:01] <levi_> Fun
[02:01] <pete__> so "sudo vi thefileiwannaedit"
[02:01] <levi_> Learning
[02:01] <Kapricorn> my question:  is ther a diff networkmanager I can use?
[02:01] <xtavaresx> i just installed feisty but my sound is really quiet, any ideas?
[02:02] <levi_> thats what help center is for
[02:02] <levi_> go to Kmix
[02:02] <levi_> and turn up PCM
[02:02] <Kapricorn> knetworkmanager?
[02:02] <solemnwarning> Why is the normal *buntu cd the livecd+gui one?
[02:02] <solemnwarning> It's too unreliable and slow IMO
[02:02] <hsystem-x> yeah, but becarefull. look at this pete: http://www.cs.colostate.edu/helpdocs/vi.html
[02:03] <levi_> wait so 6 doesnt suport Wifi USB?
[02:03] <pete__> hmm.. just need to know whats delete in that infernal text editor..  :)
[02:03] <solemnwarning> I tried out the livecd for 7.04 on my laptop, partitioning failed because the kernel was already using the disk so /dev didn't get updated
[02:03] <Kapricorn> might...but you'll have to use ndiswrapper and the windows driver
[02:03] <levi_> *checks his order
[02:03] <solemnwarning> The alternate disk is better
[02:03] <levi_> I have the windows driver
[02:03] <LettuceJoans>  I need to reformat a partition to ect3 what program should I use?
[02:03] <levi_> but ndiswrapper
[02:04] <levi_> sudo apt-get ndiswrapper?
[02:04] <hsystem-x> install ndiswrapper from it source...
[02:04] <Kapricorn> yep
[02:04] <levi_> I guessed
[02:04] <hsystem-x> binaries are old...
[02:04] <levi_> which is where?
[02:05] <levi_> by the way that didnt work anyway
[02:05] <hsystem-x> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[02:05] <levi_> ok
[02:05] <levi_> will do
[02:05] <hsystem-x> need to compile :).
[02:05] <hsystem-x> read the installation instructions.
[02:05] <Kapricorn> anyone know of a better network manager than knetworkmanager..or and alternate?
[02:05] <levi_> Oh boy im basically clueless as to what im doing now xD
[02:06] <hsystem-x> well just read the instructions... they are easy.
[02:08] <hsystem-x> why kubuntu does not come with g++ already installed? it is essential..
[02:08] <pete__> whats that delete in that normal console editor.. and quit&save.. cant remember
[02:08] <levi_> !pastebin
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[02:08] <solemnwarning> hsystem-x: It's aimed at users, how many users know what a C++ compiler is?
[02:09] <solemnwarning> And the base system has to fit on a cd, g++ and the stdc++ headers take space
[02:09] <hsystem-x> well, how many users know how to use linux? is the same... probably an 90% of linux users , use compilers. And what about thoose tar,gz package?
[02:09] <hsystem-x> they need to be compiled...
[02:10] <solemnwarning> hsystem-x: Most programs are C anyway
[02:10] <hsystem-x> well linux is c/c++ and perl
[02:10] <levi_> Blargh
[02:10] <solemnwarning> The cd is ~700MB, isn't it?
[02:10] <Maxdamantus> 694mb
[02:10] <levi_> right off the bat a problem  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18043/
[02:10] <solemnwarning> g++ and the stdc++ headers wouldan't even fit on it
[02:11] <hsystem-x> well, you can eliminate some unnecessary packages...
[02:11] <hsystem-x> they*
[02:11] <solemnwarning> C++ == horribly bloated language
[02:11] <solemnwarning> Like...?
[02:11] <hsystem-x> c++ is the best language, is the most powerfull language...
[02:11] <levi_> Wait..
[02:11] <levi_> Whoops
[02:11] <Maxdamantus> It is.
[02:11] <solemnwarning> hsystem-x: How?
[02:11] <Sanne> hsystem-x: no use to argue, it's a design decision of the makers of the distro. It's not aimed at developers per se, although if you want to compile something, you can easily install build-essential to get most of what you need.
[02:11] <Maxdamantus> C++ is widely used.
[02:11] <hsystem-x> good for teaching and for estructural programming.
[02:11] <pete__> levii, help a bit.. that editor .. its been like 10 years since i had to use one like that in unix. :/ so how to delete next char & quit & save ? :)
[02:11] <solemnwarning> It's a programming language, it does whatever you code it to do
[02:11] <Maxdamantus> I was amazed when I found out that it didn't have the compiler by default.
[02:11] <solemnwarning> No it isn't
[02:11] <solemnwarning> C++ is a horrible language, full of crap
[02:12] <TheDebugger> ...
[02:12] <hsystem-x> well, it seems you're not a programmer :S.
[02:12] <hsystem-x> c++ can do anything.
[02:12] <levi_> thats better -->
[02:12] <levi_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18044/
[02:12] <solemnwarning> C can do anything
[02:12] <hsystem-x> c++ use objects :)
[02:12] <solemnwarning> But it's not a bloated language
[02:12] <hsystem-x> it is better
[02:12] <solemnwarning> Objects, whoop-de-fucking do
[02:12] <TheDebugger> C++ is not bloated at all
[02:12] <hsystem-x> cand do object oriented programming :)
[02:12] <xoss> can make coffee too?
[02:12] <hsystem-x> can*
[02:12] <solemnwarning> Any language can do objects really, C++ makes it easier
[02:13] <hsystem-x> c++ is better. :), well everybody that is a programmer, know how to program in c++.
[02:13] <hsystem-x> c is old :)
[02:13] <hsystem-x> more old.
[02:14] <hsystem-x> cobol is better lol.
[02:14] <solemnwarning> Old...
[02:14] <pete__> hsystem, can i trouble you with 2 simple questions as i cant get help in the help files :/
[02:14] <solemnwarning> And what is everyones fixation of using the newest thing created?
[02:15] <hsystem-x> well, they have more capacity to do things, at least from c to c++
[02:15] <levi_> Take Vista for example as my head gets chewed off
[02:15] <solemnwarning> C++ has too many safties for stupid people that just get in the way
[02:15] <levi_> it sucks
[02:15] <levi_> but people  like it allot
[02:15] <solemnwarning> ffs...
[02:15] <Sanne> please people...
[02:15] <Arwen> Windows bashing only makes the F/OSS community look like mindless zealots...
[02:15] <Arwen> so please stfu
[02:15] <Sanne> !offtopic
[02:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:15] <solemnwarning> You can do anything in any language (almost)
[02:15] <hsystem-x> well, you can do the same with kubuntu.
[02:16] <sdf_> can i install gnome and kde desktop in the same time??
[02:16] <hsystem-x> people like it, the it sucks?
[02:16] <hsystem-x> then*
[02:16] <levi_> *sigh its an example.
[02:16] <TheDebugger> Arwen: You are right
[02:16] <pete__> hsystem, just need to know this odd text editor.. what does delete next char.. and quit&save.. i cant get any help pages to show due to my low rez :/
[02:16] <levi_> not always using the newest thing is a good thing
[02:16] <solemnwarning> C++ is just annoying
[02:17] <sdf_> help
[02:17] <solemnwarning> For example, making it impossible to mix pointers
[02:17] <pete__> i have in my /etc/X11 config file the proper resolutions but the system boots to the worst possible :/
[02:17] <TheDebugger> Not at all, you can do anything is c++ that c can do
[02:17] <TheDebugger> *in
[02:17] <solemnwarning> It's a memory address, they are all the same thing!
[02:17] <hsystem-x> are you a registered user petE?
[02:17] <solemnwarning> char* is the same as int* is the same as void*
[02:17] <hsystem-x> pointers are essential :)
[02:17] <solemnwarning> hsystem-x: yeah
[02:17] <sdf_> can i install gnome and kde desktop in the same time??
[02:18] <hsystem-x> yeah sdf
[02:18] <solemnwarning> So why does C++ prevent pointers from being mixed?
[02:18] <hsystem-x> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <hsystem-x> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <hsystem-x> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <hsystem-x> what do you mean with mixed?
[02:19] <solemnwarning> sudo aptitude install yetanotherbloodybuntu-desktop
[02:19] <solemnwarning> hsystem-x: C++ won't let you mix any type of pointer
[02:19] <Sanne> solemnwarning, hsystem-x, could you please move your discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[02:19] <pete__> hsystem, nope havent registered yet, just today tried to install this to my PS3.. and it seems to work very well, but... need to up the resolution .. cant see the config windows etc so its kinda hard :/
[02:19] <solemnwarning> E.g, you can't pass char* to a function that expects void*
[02:19] <solemnwarning> Or vice-versa
[02:19] <hsystem-x> well that obvious, that's an error
[02:19] <Sanne> sdf_: yes you can, and choose whoch one you want to use at login.
[02:19] <solemnwarning> Not always
[02:20] <hsystem-x> bad logic.
[02:20] <TheDebugger> Yeah, bad logic
[02:20] <solemnwarning> malloc() and free() for example
[02:20] <solemnwarning> Or any kind of wrapper function around the memory manager
[02:20] <TheDebugger> Juste cast if you want to do something stupid
[02:20] <hsystem-x> lol
[02:20] <TheDebugger> Anyway, you should use new in c++
[02:21] <hsystem-x> right
[02:21] <hsystem-x> casting.
[02:21] <solemnwarning> TheDebugger: And put a catch block around every single new/free
[02:21] <TheDebugger> solemnwarning: You don't need
[02:22] <TheDebugger> You can do it that way, or use the nothrow new if you like to check if your pointer is NULL after
[02:22] <BluesKaj> pete__:  this is stating the obvious but have you tried system settings/monitor & display/admin mode/hardware/config graphics/ config monitor/ apply/ set resolution /apply
[02:22] <pete__> xhsystem.. i know what you ment with that /etc/X11/...config change, i checked and it had the proper resolutions... but i cant even do the freaking run to edit the files so i dont have to write that "verylongiwannagetthisthingstarted"..
[02:22] <solemnwarning> TheDebugger: You still need to handle error checking for every single new
[02:22] <pete__> blues, yeah... when i go there..
[02:22] <solemnwarning> It's quicker and cleaner to have an error-checking malloc() wrapper
[02:22] <hsystem-x> new(nothrow)  <- NULL if fail.
[02:22] <TheDebugger> solemnwarning: You must check for errors for every malloc too
[02:22] <pete__> and press that admin whatever.. the whoe window goes blank.
[02:23] <sdf_> xine don tplay any mp3 file why?
[02:23] <sdf_> also kmplayer don t play it
[02:23] <TheDebugger> solemnwarning: It's cleaner to wrap the memory management in a class using RAII
[02:23] <solemnwarning> void* allocate(size_t size) { void* ptr = malloc(size); if(ptr == NULL) { /* Handle the error */ } return(ptr); }
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> sdf_: have you installed the codec for handling mp3s?
[02:23] <chemicalvamp> sdf_ open it with amarok and it will ask to install the codec automaticly
[02:24] <sdf_> how can i install the codec?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> pete__:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg :)
[02:24] <Sanne> !mp3 | sdf_
[02:24] <ubotu> sdf_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:24] <pete__> i would have a idea to change some config files but with this install i NEVER was asked for root pass and now i cant login as root :/ and my main login says "not enough access"
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> well yeah, that's how ubuntu works
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !sudo | pete__
[02:24] <ubotu> pete__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:24] <Arwen> FreeFormats work... in theory...
[02:24] <hsystem-x> pete if you are running with interface then, try kwrite o kate (as someone told you), it will be easier. If you are in console and cant see the interface or GUI, use VI is better,but it is maybe complicated
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> pete__ run "sudo passwd"
[02:25] <hsystem-x> that's what i told him.
[02:25] <hsystem-x> to assing a unix system password.
[02:25] <Arwen> anyone - is Theora anywhere near usable for Video?
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: sure, as long as you don't want to actually do anything useful with commercial equipment (without voiding your warranty)
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> that was about free formats in general, not theora
[02:26] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, usage as in not looking like MPEG-1....
[02:26] <Arwen> because last I tried Theora....
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i have no clue, i've never used theora
[02:26] <Arwen> hehe
[02:26] <hsystem-x> sudo kwrite /etc/example.txt  sudo kate /etc/example.txt sudo vi /etc/example.txt
[02:26] <hsystem-x> pete.
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> does linux have an avi player?
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> BAD hsystem-x
[02:26] <hsystem-x> just need the codecs lol
[02:26] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, an AVI player? AVI is a container, any media player can demux AVI
[02:26] <BluesKaj> kaffeine
[02:26] <LettuceJoans>  I need to reformat a partition to ect3 what program should I use?
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> never use sudo with a gui app
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> kdesu
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> divx
[02:27] <Jucato> !kdesu | hsystem-x
[02:27] <ubotu> hsystem-x: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:27] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, why? sudo xguiapp works most of the time
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> !works for me
[02:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:27] <hsystem-x> well you cand do sudo is the same, or you can use gksudo (already installed in kubuntu)
[02:27] <Jucato> Arwen: read above ^^^^
[02:27] <Jucato> hsystem-x: gksudo is not installed on Kubuntu. kdesu is
[02:27] <hsystem-x> gksudo is installed.
[02:27] <hsystem-x> on feisty.
[02:28] <Jucato> no it isn't
[02:28] <Arwen> Jucato, yes yes... but I want to know why it isn't a good idea?
[02:28] <hsystem-x> yeah it is
[02:28] <hsystem-x> i have it.
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> gksudo is ubuntu
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> gnome
[02:28] <Arwen> hsystem-x, on GNOME maybe..
[02:28] <hsystem-x> well, i know that
[02:28] <Jucato> hsystem-x: did you install Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[02:28] <hsystem-x> no
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> hsystem-x: did you install ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop?
[02:28] <hsystem-x> kubuntu feisty fresh install
[02:28] <hsystem-x> it have it.
[02:28] <Jucato> O.o
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> no, it doesn't
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> then youre weird
[02:28] <hsystem-x> yes it have
[02:28] <hsystem-x> well i can do gksudo.
[02:28] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, by DivX, I assume you mean MPEG-4 ASP... in which case you just need the appropriate ffmpeg codec
[02:28] <Jucato> !sudo | Arwen
[02:28] <ubotu> Arwen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:29] <compilerwriter> jucato maybe you can solve this resolution thing for me.
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> fresh install of feisty, kdesu only
[02:29] <Jucato> Arwen: that page explains your question
[02:29] <Jucato> compilerwriter: hm?
[02:29] <compilerwriter> Is there a way in one of the x-org files to set up the resolution you want to serve?
[02:29] <hsystem-x> well fresh install (with updates)
[02:29] <chemicalvamp> compilerwriter i know if you reconfigure xorg you can select them
[02:29] <Arwen> Jucato, I don't see where it mentions gksu/kdesu vs sudo
[02:30] <Jucato> compilerwriter: you mean like /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:30] <compilerwriter> That was the general idea Jucato yes.
[02:30] <Jucato> Arwen: "NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail. If this happens and at login an error message reports: "Unable to read ICE authority file", log in using the failsafe terminal and execute the command below substituting your username for user.
[02:30] <compilerwriter> jucato chemicalvamp how would one go about doing such a thing.
[02:30] <Arwen> Jucato, exactly where does it say that?
[02:31] <hsystem-x> sudo sometimes work. depends on the app.
[02:31] <Jucato> Arwen: uner Notes
[02:31] <compilerwriter> Arwen I can
[02:31] <Arwen> Jucato, ok
[02:31] <Arwen> Jucato, it still doesn't explain how that happens...
[02:31] <Jucato> hsystem-x: GUI apps, you use kdesu. for CLI, you use sudo
[02:31] <compilerwriter> 't tell you chapter and verse, but I have read that somewhere before.
[02:31] <chemicalvamp>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <hsystem-x> i already know tha...
[02:32] <hsystem-x> and what about thoose bad device errors that kubuntu have.
[02:32] <Arwen> harmless... I think...
[02:33] <Jucato> Arwen: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[02:33] <Jucato> hsystem-x: they have nothing to do with kdesu or sudo
[02:33] <hsystem-x> ehmm??
[02:33] <Jucato> it's with xorg.conf
[02:33] <hsystem-x> jucato...
[02:33] <Jucato> the BadDevice errors are a result of wacom entries in xorg.conf
[02:33] <hsystem-x> what are you talking about, lol im talking about another thing.
 and what about thoose bad device errors that kubuntu have.
[02:34] <hsystem-x> xactly , and you come with hsystem-x: they have nothing to do with kdesu or sudo
[02:34] <hsystem-x> im not asking about that...
[02:34] <Jucato> ok sorry. thought it was related to the ongoing discussion
[02:35] <Jucato> (sudden change in topic?)
[02:35] <TheDebugger> Little question, what does a "c" mean when you do an aptitude search?
[02:35] <hsystem-x> well, is there a way to work that? thoose bad device errors...
[02:35] <TheDebugger> i == installed, p == package i guess but "c"?
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> cache
[02:35] <Arwen> Jucato, thank you
[02:35] <hsystem-x> xorg-reconfigure does not work.
[02:35] <hsystem-x> does not resolve that errors.
[02:35] <Arwen> Jucato, say, that page mentions using gksu/kdesu as a hotkey - any details on that?
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesnt work?
[02:36] <Jucato> TheDebugger: c means uninstalled but with config files still lying around
[02:36] <hsystem-x> to resolve that errors... no
[02:36] <Jucato> hsystem-x: you can remove the wacom entries in xorg.conf
[02:36] <Jucato> !baddevice
[02:36] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[02:36] <hsystem-x> yup, thoose.
[02:37] <Jucato> btw, those errors are harmless (although a bit annoying).
[02:38] <hsystem-x> exatly - anoying.
[02:38] <hsystem-x> annoying*
[02:38] <Arwen> Jucato, so to fix it, you disable tablet input?
[02:38] <Jucato> Arwen: yep
[02:38] <Jucato> unless you're on a Tablet PC of course
[02:39] <Arwen> Jucato, time to restart X :-)
[02:39] <Arwen> see if that worked
[02:40] <compilerwriter> chemicalvamp now that I have done all that I need to restart x don't I.
[02:41] <chemicalvamp> yup
[02:41] <snap> asholes are still assd holes despite you fuggers  I MADE IT,,,,,,
[02:41] <compilerwriter> chemicalvamp would you be so kind as to refresh my memory on that particular command?
[02:41] <Jucato> !language | snap
[02:41] <ubotu> snap: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <snap> NOW TI KILL YHE ASSHOLES
[02:41] <Jucato> snap: stop that
[02:42] <snap> lmao
[02:42] <snap> lmao
[02:43] <LettuceJoans>  I need to reformat a partition to ect3 what program should I use?
[02:43] <Arwen> lol, I forget 3 lines and broke my xorg.conf :-(
[02:43] <Arwen> but then I fixed it :-)
[02:43] <Jucato> LettuceJoans: QtParted or GParted?
[02:44] <Jucato> (or fdisk if you're a command line buff)
[02:44] <LettuceJoans> what does that mean?
[02:44] <Jucato> LettuceJoans: the programs you were asking about
[02:44] <Jucato> !qtparted
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <compilerwriter> how do I restart x?
[02:44] <Jucato> !info qtparted
[02:44] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[02:44] <LettuceJoans> I want to know what program to use
[02:44] <TheDebugger> !info mkfs
[02:44] <ubotu> Package mkfs does not exist in feisty
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a good nagios config tool that actually works? I've got a bunch of hosts to setup and it's going to be very tedious to do with vi.
[02:44] <Jucato> compilerwriter: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (after closing whatever you need to close)
[02:45] <compilerwriter> Jucato good grief I thought that just killed the current session.  I didn't know it restarted the whole mess.
[02:45] <Jucato> compilerwriter: hm?
[02:45] <LettuceJoans> what's QtParted and GParted?
[02:46] <compilerwriter> I didn't realize it also restarted the server.
[02:46] <Jucato> LettuceJoans: programs for partitioning and formating
[02:46] <Jucato> compilerwriter: er... it restarts X
[02:46] <LettuceJoans> ok, which one can format a partion as ect3?
[02:46] <Jucato> both can
[02:46] <LettuceJoans> sweet, thanks
[02:47] <Skyblast> Anyone know a way to make any of the Linux par2 tools to join ,001, .002, etc. file into the original file similar to how Quickpar for Windows does?
[02:47] <LettuceJoans> is one better than the other or does it matter
[02:47] <Arwen> Skyblast, are they compressed? or just split?
[02:48] <Arwen> because if they're just split, you could probably glue em back together
[02:48] <Skyblast> Just split
[02:48] <jhutchins> Skyblast: Unrar will handle those fine.
[02:48] <Arwen> Skyblast, the hard way would be to dd them together... the easy way is to install p7zip-full and run "7z x <splitfilefirstpartname>"
[02:49] <Arwen> jhutchins, cmon, we can deal with this without proprietary software
[02:49] <jhutchins> unrar is free.
[02:49] <Arwen> but proprietary all the same
[02:49] <jhutchins> unrar e <first file name>
[02:50] <jhutchins> Arwen: unrar is open source, just not GNU.
[02:51] <Jucato> Arwen: unfortunately, unrar-free doesn't handle as much formats or versions of RAR as the unrar (nonfree) version
[02:51] <Arwen> Jucato, jhutchins, none of us said anything about RAR...
[02:51] <Arwen> that's why I recommended 7-zipo
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> compilerwriter        ? i was afk
[02:52] <jhutchins> Arwen: .par files are often split rar archives.
[02:52] <jhutchins> Arwen: Especially those downloaded from usenet.
[02:52] <compilerwriter> chemicalvamp no worries Jucato stepped in for you.
[02:52] <Arwen> jhutchins, hmm
[02:52] <jhutchins> Arwen: They sometimes use a mixed naming scheme as well.
[02:53] <Skyblast> Cool, the 7zip handles things nicely. Thanks!
[02:53] <snap> UGGGGGGHHHHH I HAVE 5 OUT OF 6 MACHINES RUNINGG FIESTY FINE......BUT MY BRAND NEW LAPTOP DONT LIKE IT  AT ALL........DRIVING ME NUTZ
[02:53] <jhutchins> Or they could be 7zip things...
[02:53] <Jucato> !caps | snap
[02:53] <ubotu> snap: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:53] <Arwen> !caps
[02:54] <Arwen> jhutchins, :-)
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> snap same
[02:54] <snap> OH BUT IM FRUSTRATED
[02:54] <Arwen> but yeah, 7-zip should be able to decode rar, it's linked to unrar
[02:54] <sayers> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia how does this apply to kubuntu's 7.04?
[02:55] <Jucato> sayers: still applies. unless you have a very new card, then you can use nvidia-glx-new instead of nvidia-glx (depends on your card, better check first)
[02:55] <jhutchins> sayers: Pretty much the same, just bump version numbers where appropriate.
[02:55] <snap> GRRRRRRRR LINUX so frusATING I THINK SUSE will do the trick
[02:55] <snap> unbuntu does not have a helpful userbase
[02:55] <bobstro> snap: what's not working?
[02:56] <Jucato> snap: if you won't ask a question no one will help you. whining and shouting will not get you any help
[02:57] <snap> jucato been asking questiond for the past 6 weeks
[02:57] <snap> had manny learning experiences
[02:58] <Jucato> snap: 1) not everyone here might have been there the past 6 weeks. 2) not everyone here might actually know the answer to your problem.
[02:58] <Jucato> !patience
[02:58] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:58] <snap> most from assholes that have the same hardware working
[02:59] <snap> but wont tell the rest of us how it works
[02:59] <Tm_T> !ohmy | snap
[02:59] <ubotu> snap: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:59] <bobstro> snap: you may be better off with suse. good luck.
[02:59] <sepeck> I like that patience saying.  we have a similar one in drupal land
[02:59] <Skyblast> Try Slackware. I heard that's pretty easy. :)
[02:59] <bobstro> speaker_: you're a drupal guy?
[02:59] <bobstro> heh sorry
[03:00] <sepeck> :D
[03:00] <sepeck> and yes
[03:00] <bobstro> sepeck: you're a drupal *individual*?
[03:00] <sepeck> that too
[03:00] <snap> well no body in this place ver helpful
[03:00] <bobstro> sepeck: good, i'll be lurking on #drupal soon enough. some silly stuff has me stumped.
[03:00] <Skyblast> snap: Just did a search on your name in my logs for here. All I see you doing is yelling in caps and calling people names.
[03:00] <snap> either inept or an asshole like you
[03:00] <bobstro> snap: yes, you're absolutely right. you needen't beg. just go.
[03:00] <BluesKaj> ask yer question snap..or stop complaining
[03:01] <bobstro> snap: absolutely. goodbye.
[03:01] <bobstro> sepeck: well, not here. :)
[03:01] <chemicalvamp> snap you need to ask questions to be helped.. not sit there and whin, and if you do odds are nobody is going to want to help somebody acting like a 12 year old
[03:01] <Skyblast> Seriously, several instances of him just whining and yelling about. Looks like we got a troll.
[03:01] <sepeck> bobstro, audit #drupal ask in #drupal-support or #drupal-dojo
[03:01] <snap> lol
[03:01] <snap>  nice
[03:01] <Tm_T> snap: you really should behave
[03:01] <bobstro> sepeck: will do. i'm very pleased with drupal.
[03:02] <sepeck> I am the doc team lead
[03:02] <sepeck> just trying my hand at kununtu this week
[03:02] <Tm_T> snap: take a walk in fresh air, read CoC and then come back :)
[03:02] <Tm_T> snap: IF you don't get any answers here, try forums
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> chain of command?
[03:03] <snap> lol ive behaved im going nuts with my damm presario help me get it working or go to hell
[03:03] <bobstro> sepeck: ahah! well, i'm doing something silly with the category setup. i'm going through the docs this week. i just want a hierarchical site with articles with teasers, and (ideally) the book module, but i think i over-complicated it.
[03:03] <Jucato> chemicalvamp: Code of Conduct
[03:03] <bobstro> snap: what is that, the conan crom speech?
[03:03] <Skyblast> snap: Ask something specific!!!!
[03:03] <Skyblast> Wah wah wah my crap isn't working you holes is not a question
[03:03] <chemicalvamp> ahh in marines, its chan of command
[03:03] <dwidmann> snap: I kind of like the go to  hell option
[03:03] <sepeck> bobstro, well stop by #drupal-support and we cna chat.  should be straight forward
[03:03] <chemicalvamp> same here
[03:04] <BluesKaj> or chain of custody
[03:04] <Skyblast> It's so warm here lately it feels like I'm in hell ;)
[03:04] <bobstro> sepeck: ok, probably next week though. thanks.
[03:04] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[03:04] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:04] <bobstro> hell isn't on topic?
[03:04] <Jucato> neither is heaven :)
[03:05] <Tm_T> my kicking boot is always on topic ] ;=
[03:06] <bobstro> i'm installing ubuntu on an external usb drive. what are the odds it'll boot well on a variety of hardware  (with the likely exception of the x drivers)?
[03:06] <sepeck> heh....  so can someone link me to an article on getting Apache on my kubuntu box?
[03:06] <sepeck> then I can go read and learn
[03:06] <Tm_T> !apache | sepeck
[03:06] <ubotu> sepeck: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:07] <Skyblast> sepeck: Might also go check out the Linux Reality podcast. Chess just did some episodes on Apache and the like. http://www.linuxreality.com
[03:07] <bobstro> sepeck: there's also a package for drupal 5.1 if that's what you're working up to. not sure how reliable it is.
[03:07] <sepeck> hmmmm..... was using the 7 series.  don't remember server option...
[03:07] <sepeck> bobstro, I am against packaes for Drupal, so manual install :D
[03:08] <bobstro> sepeck: i figured as much, but thought i'd mention it.
[03:08] <sepeck> :D
[03:08] <bobstro> sepeck: i suspect you've got some experience with that.
[03:09] <sepeck> the objective is to re-acquaint myself with Linux and such
[03:09] <GuHHH> envy is only for ubuntu?
[03:10] <sonoftheclayr> GuHHH: envy works in kubuntu but from my experience i could only get it working at command line
[03:11] <GuHHH> i mean, does it work with other distros?
[03:11] <sonoftheclayr> not as far as i know, i would think it doesn't
[03:11] <bobstro> sepeck: how long have you been away?
[03:14] <sepeck> 4 years... /me joins #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> how do you do the * sepeck doesn't want
[03:17] <sepeck> > /me
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> oh
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> ive done that on gaim, but i dint know it worked here
[03:18] <Maxdamantus> chemicalvamp, it's not a server side thing.
[03:19] <Maxdamantus> It's the client.
[03:19] <Maxdamantus> When you do it, you're actually sending something like "PRIVMSG #kubuntu [] ACTION does something[] "
[03:19] <Maxdamantus> Where []  is ASCII01
[03:20] <chemicalvamp> huhhh?
[03:21] <Maxdamantus> Don't worry.
[03:21] <Maxdamantus> Just think of it as /me for now.
[03:21] <sepeck> heh
[03:21] <Maxdamantus> But if you were listening to it through a raw socket, you'd see what I just said.
[03:21] <Maxdamantus> And the client displays it as an action. :P
[03:22] <chemicalvamp> man im sick of being asked "a new update is available, would you like to upgrade to feisty?"
[03:24] <imagine> aha say yes :)
[03:27] <jarn_> I think there's something wrong with my machine. Games don't run well, even Linux games. I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1GB of ram and an nVidia Geforce 6800.
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> imagine i dont want feisty, it doesnt support my wireless card
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> jarn_ did you install your video card?
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> !nvidia
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <jarn_> chemicalvamp: I did that, yes.
[03:28] <jarn_> chemicalvamp: I have the newest version of drivers.
[03:28] <TheDebugger> Is direct rendering on?
[03:29] <jarn_> TheDebugger: How do I tell?
[03:29] <levon> hello im back for another day at the ball park with no questions lol
[03:29] <jarn_> TheDebugger: Wait, yes it is.
[03:29] <chemicalvamp> hello
[03:32] <chemicalvamp> wtf.. BREAK (upgradable
[03:34] <Jucato> levon: that's good to hear :)
[03:35] <levon> jucato actually i stumble apon one just now
[03:35] <levon> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:36] <levon> is this a restriction for the os?
[03:36] <Jucato> levon: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[03:36] <levon> ill check apt-get install build-essential right?
[03:37] <Jucato> yep
[03:38] <levon> didnt have it
[03:38] <levon> :)
[03:38] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know why/how to get a microphone to work, which i just plugged into the mic slot of the audio card??
[03:38] <levon> man need the restroom brb
[03:38] <lettuce_> How do I mount a hard dick volume?
[03:38] <lettuce_> *disk
[03:38] <bobstro> heh
[03:38] <lettuce_> lol funny typo
[03:39] <sonoftheclayr> crackhead_25: fire up kmix and enable it there
[03:39] <Jucato> lettuce_: try System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Disks & Filesystem
[03:40] <crackhead_25> how do i enable it in kmix??
[03:41] <lettuce_> ...it says that module disk and filesystems could not be loaded
[03:41] <Jucato> eek...
[03:41] <lettuce_> :(
[03:41] <Jucato> guess you'll probably have to do it manually
[03:41] <Jucato> !mount
[03:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> crackhead_25: input tab and make sure the red light under it is on
[03:42] <Jucato> oh not very helpful :)
[03:42] <levon> works now thank you
[03:42] <crackhead_25> my input has four options.. line in, mic, phone, and aux.. i have three ports in the audio card.. the red one, blue, and green.. mic goes in red, usually, and that's where i put it..
[03:42] <crackhead_25> which should have red light under it?
[03:42] <levon> wow what a name lol
[03:42] <Jucato> !fstab | lettuce_
[03:42] <ubotu> lettuce_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:42] <jarn_> I think there's something wrong with my machine. Games don't run well, even Linux games. I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1GB of ram and an nVidia Geforce 6800. I have installed the drivers and direct rendering is enabled.
[03:43] <sonoftheclayr> crackhead_25: mic
[03:44] <crackhead_25> still doesn't work... ??
[03:44] <crackhead_25> how can i test it?
[03:47] <crackhead_25> sonoftheclayr: how do i test it??
[03:47] <draik> Is anyone here from Texas, USA? Preferably San Antonio area.
[03:48] <borgista> Anyone know why Amarok is buggy as hell in Feisty?
[03:48] <sonoftheclayr> crackhead_25: no idea, sorry
[03:49] <draik> borgista:
[03:49] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to test if a microphone is properly working?? or how to get one to properly work if it's not working??
[03:49] <crimsun> borgista: it's incredibly difficult to assist in debugging when you provide absolutely no details.
[03:49] <levon> woot my program is compiled with no errors time to see if how many bugs i have to fix lol
[03:49] <crackhead_25> crimsun: how do you get a microphone to work? i plugged it in, but it appears not to be recording anything. i enabled the mic setting in kmix, as suggested. the light is on. still, doesnt seem to record.
[03:49] <icecruncher> anybody know a good offline flash app player?
[03:50] <crimsun> crackhead_25: see arecord(1)
[03:50] <draik> crackhead_25: I had that issue. I kept on testing the various sound levels and restarted X after each change. Have you tried that?
[03:50] <crackhead_25> draik: you have to restart x entirely afterwards? did that end up making the mic work?
[03:50] <sonoftheclayr> you shouldn't have to restart x
[03:50] <draik> crackhead_25: It did the last time.
[03:51] <draik> I do it just to be sure it goes through.
[03:51] <draik> Restarting X has fixed other issues, so it doesn't bother. Besides, how hard is it to hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE?
[03:52] <sonoftheclayr> and how long does it take to log back in again?
[03:52] <mooman> you should try alsamixer instead of kmix.. kmix is somewhat "broken"
[03:53] <crackhead_25> crimsun: what do you think of draik's recommendation? also, what is the command i would wish to call for arecord to test very simply the mic working or not??
[03:53] <draik> sonoftheclayr: How long does it take you to enter your password?
[03:53] <ncaller> hello, I just successfully dist-upgrade'd from dapper to edgy, however I notice that adept is no longer installed.  Is there a newer preferred package manager for kubuntu?
[03:53] <crackhead_25> mooman: if i adjusted the mic setting in kmix, should i un-adjust it before using alsamixer, or does it not matter (if it's broken)??
[03:54] <sonoftheclayr> draik: about a second but then you have to wait for KDE to start and that takes awhile
[03:54] <mooman> crackhead_25: it does not really matter.. kmix might ignore some settings ..
[03:54] <draik> sonoftheclayr: Not really. Then again, what do I know.
[03:55] <crackhead_25> mooman: im in alsamixer. i dont really understand how it works. why is there a lock/unlock symbol below everything?
[03:55] <mooman> cra
[03:55] <crimsun> crackhead_25: I'm not tracking backscroll, and it's not present when I reattached
[03:55] <crimsun> crackhead_25: what was suggested?
[03:55] <mooman> crackhead_25: press up/down to adjust volume, m to mute/unmute, tab to switch input/output and space to select the input
[03:56] <crackhead_25> crimsun: restarting X
[03:56] <crimsun> crackhead_25: to test mic changes? that's not at all necessary.
[03:56] <crackhead_25> ok
[03:57] <crackhead_25> what's the difference between phone, mic, and line in? is phone strictly for headphones, not microphone?
[03:57] <mooman> crackhead_25: check if mic has this red CAPTUR and is at a correct volume level and unmuted..
[03:57] <jack> hi
[03:58] <crackhead_25> mooman: i see nothing in red. red was in kmix. alsamixer (gui) has no red. how do i know if something is muted/unmuted in alsamixer? m doesn't seem to do it..
[03:58] <mooman> crackhead_25: phone afaik is for real phones connected to the soundcard (kind of anachronistic)
[03:58] <ncaller> is adept still the default package manager front end for edgy-kubuntu?
[03:58] <mooman> crackhead_25: you should be able to select a capture channel via space in the "Caputre" view (cycle tab)
[03:58] <jack> can anyone tell me how to use a canon i560 on kubuntu 7.04 ????
[03:59] <crackhead_25> mooman: still no success with recording after adjusting in alsamixer..
[03:59] <crackhead_25> what's the "capture" view, and in what program are you talking?
[03:59] <bobstro> jack: look at it through the viewfinder and push the little button?
[04:00] <mooman> crackhead_25: still alsamixer .. on top there is a "View: Playback Capture All" with the current selected view hilighted and you can cycle the views with the tab key
[04:00] <jack> bobstro: the i560 is connected to a windows xp pc via usb...... cant establish connection
[04:00] <sonoftheclayr> ncaller: yes
[04:01] <bobstro> jack: in winxp or kubuntu?
[04:01] <jack> im running kubuntu but the printer is connected to xp
[04:01] <crackhead_25> mooman: i dont think im looking at the right alsamixer. how do you run "alsamixer"? i went to adept, dl'd and installed an alsamixer gui, and it was an X window with grey and some controls, but not this capture window you're mentioning..
[04:01] <mooman> crackhead_25: aah i see its a console app i am talking about.. ;-)
[04:02] <sonoftheclayr> crackhead_25: in konsole type in alsamixer
[04:02] <crackhead_25> ah ok.. now what?
[04:02] <mooman> now read the backscroll an try again what i told you ;-)
[04:03] <jack> bobstro: and i cant find the i560 in the drivers list
[04:03] <crackhead_25> mooman: i see shared line in can be either line or mic. i selected it and made it mic, i believe, but i can't elevate the levels at all with up and down arrows.. am i doing something wrong?
[04:03] <bobstro> jack: i don't know that camera. it doesnt show as a flash drive?
[04:03] <jack> bob
[04:04] <jack> bobstro: its a printer!
[04:04] <mooman> crackhead_25: thats fine some channels do not support volume settings
[04:04] <bobstro> jack: wups, wrong model!
[04:04] <jack> ;)
[04:04] <levon> does kubuntu have a firewall and where would it be located
[04:04] <mooman> crackhead_25: just make sure the correct channel is selected .. plus the "Capture" channel is selected and volume is up
[04:04] <bobstro> jack: my joke made no sense at all then. was thinking of the cameras. sorry, no help on the printer from me.
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> !firewall | levon
[04:04] <ubotu> levon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:04] <agentnewb> crackhead_25 another person complaining about sound *sighs* go to alsa site and install them yourself. everything will work
[04:05] <jack> bobstro: k np thx
[04:05] <mooman> crackhead_25:  (Selected as in pressing space to toggle)
[04:05] <crackhead_25> agentnewb: install what myself?
[04:05] <agentnewb> mooman: *stabs you until you shut up about mixer*
[04:05] <agentnewb> crackhead_25: sound drivers
[04:05] <agentnewb> crackhead_25: is it the mic?
[04:05] <crackhead_25> agentnewb: are you sure its sound drivesr i need? it's the mic. i can playback all fine with speakers and what not.
[04:05] <agentnewb> yes sound driver
[04:06] <jack> can anyone tell me how to use the canon i560 printer with kubuntu????
[04:06] <b0nn> hi all, I am trying to install googleearth onto my Kubuntu(edgy) system.  When I run it, all I get is google earth initialising, no error messages.  And thats it, any ideas?
[04:06] <crackhead_25> which driver?
[04:06] <crackhead_25> mooman: what do you think of agentnewb's recommendation?
[04:06] <crimsun> agentnewb: that should only be suggested as a last resort
[04:06] <agentnewb> crackhead_25: http://www.alsa-project.org/ grab the stable driver and try if doesn't work try the beta
[04:06] <slestak> what determines the drive assignments when initrd is made? I move a drive from hdc to hdd, and on every boot, it pauses to check for hdc, and when intird is created for new kernels, it always puts root=/dev/hdc1 in grub.  I have changed fstab, must be somewhere ales
[04:06] <agentnewb> crimsun: bite me
[04:07] <crimsun> I strongly recommend not doing so unless I say it's necessary, because often people randomly install alsa-driver from upstream, thereby clobbering Kubuntu's alsa internals, and /I/ have to deal with the bug reports as the alsa maintainer.
[04:07] <mooman> crackhead_25: well if the driver is broken it MIGHT help but as crimsun states it should only be the last resort.. if fixing your mixer settings and/or cable connection etc. all fails :)
[04:07] <mooman> crackhead_25: or if its really a known bug for some particular sound card.. (there should be an launchpad bug then)
[04:08] <agentnewb> crackhead_25: fine do a backup then try my method
[04:08] <agentnewb> be less time then waiting for their legislative hoo ha
[04:08] <ncaller> Is it useful for me to be running acpid on a Desktop?
[04:08] <mooman> agentnewb: is this a known issue? with bug number?
[04:09] <crimsun> crackhead_25: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[04:09] <juifsournois> should i worry about this in syslog and/or how do i stop it: Apr 27 22:48:26 grossebitch dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
[04:09] <jack> can anyone tell me how to use the canon i560 printer with kubuntu????
[04:09] <crimsun> crackhead_25: you'll need to download and execute that script with ``bash alsa-info.sh''
[04:09] <ncaller> jack: step 1 search the web, find out if it is supported under linux
[04:10] <jack> ncaller:  there are serveral ways but the wont work
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> jack: a good link for that is www.linuxprinting.org
[04:11] <mooman> jack: canon printer have bad support in linux .. turboprint is an reliable but commercial and expensive driver that supports canon printers...
[04:11] <jack> hitmanWilly: ncaller: the problem is: the printer is connected to a windows pc and i wont to connect to it
[04:11] <jack> mooman: i know turboprint, tried it but the result was bad
[04:12] <mooman> jack: afair there are also binary driver from canon for some models
[04:12] <draik> jack: I used to network Kubuntu with WinXP for printer access
[04:12] <draik> Works just fine
[04:12] <mooman> jack: maybe search the ubuntu forums..
[04:12] <draik> Of cource, I am using an HP printer with supported drivers
[04:12] <jack> i heard that the bjc 7000 driber would do AND that there is a driver in feisty for the 560, but cant find a way to get him running
[04:13] <ncaller> jack this doesn't help you but the nice thing about HP's is many of them are supported via an official HP opensource driver (HPLIP.sourceforge.net) my all in one, is
[04:14] <ncaller> starting the feisty upgrade now
[04:14] <ncaller> the automatic upgrade notification and process is very impressive in adept
[04:14] <ncaller> I was suprised
[04:14] <jack> ncaller: i know that! but when i bought the printer i was running windows ;) i switched 3 months ago
[04:15] <DarkED> hi, i am having a problem getting my external hard drive to mount?
[04:15] <ncaller> yeah what can you do, does the printer have an IPP interface or anything?
[04:15] <ncaller> DarkED what kind of drive?
[04:15] <DarkED> ncaller: it's a USB2.0 2.5" IBM travelstar 60GB
[04:15] <DarkED> ncaller: it mounted fine before i upgraded to feisty (from edgy)
[04:15] <ncaller> basically USB
[04:16] <dennister> does anyone know how to check for all the reserved ports?
[04:16] <jack> ncaller: dont think so! had it running under 6.10 with turboprint! no problem to connect to the windows pc and use the printer... but the result was SO bad....
[04:16] <DarkED> ncaller: i try to mount /dev/sda1 manually but it says no entry in fstab/mtab, but it's a USB device so it shouldnt technically need one
[04:17] <ncaller> its not automatically been mounted somewhere you don't know about has it?
[04:17] <DarkED> ncaller: like a different machine?
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: did you check in /media ?
[04:17] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: yes
[04:17] <ncaller> like a different mount point
[04:17] <ncaller> just run 'mount' to check, you probably already did though
[04:17] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: in edgy i would have a folder called 'External HDD' because that's the name of the drive (it's NTFS3.1)
[04:17] <dennister> i'm trying to find an incoming tcp listen port for azureus, and no matter what i try, i get the NAT error
[04:17] <DarkED> ncaller: one sec
[04:18] <ncaller> dennister netstat -l; man netstat
[04:18] <ncaller> dennister also install lsof
[04:18] <DarkED> ncaller: mount says it's not mounted
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: if you need to mount it manually, you still can without an fstab entry, you just have to specify filetype, mountpoint, etc
[04:18] <dennister> thx...something in the crowded filing cabinet of my memory said something about netstat
[04:18] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: yes I understand, but I'd like to possibly get it hot-pluggable again
[04:19] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: that way it appears on desktop like it should
[04:19] <ncaller> right like mkdir ~/usbdrive; sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda ~/usbdrive
[04:19] <DarkED> ncaller: lemme try that and see if it'll even mount
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: try sudo fdisk -l to see if the machine's even seeing it
[04:20] <jack> ncaller: when i connect the printer DIRECLTY to the linux pc... it prints ! but how can i connect to a printer wich is connected to a windows pc????
[04:20] <DarkED> ok
[04:20] <DarkED> ncaller: it mounted but it says i do not have permissions to view it
[04:20] <ncaller> jack: okay then connect it to linux, install samba, share it out via samba, and connect to linux from windows
[04:21] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: dmesg confirms that the machine sees it
[04:21] <ncaller> DarkED try running 'groups' this is my output for a regular user
[04:21] <ncaller> matt adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: ok, it actually might work for hotplug if you were to put in an fstab entry
[04:21] <ncaller> that is in edgy
[04:22] <jack> ncaller: wouldnt be a solution for me! the windows pc is the server in the office of my father!
[04:22] <ncaller> well edgy/feisty mid upgrade hybrid OS monster
[04:22] <DarkED> ncaller: I get 'darked adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse' which looks normal
[04:22] <ncaller> jack don't know what to tell ya then, no experience with that hardware
[04:23] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: i can try if you think it'll work :)
[04:23] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: i'm willing to try anything
[04:23] <jack> k thx
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: give it a shot, at worst it'll make manually mounting it easier :)
[04:23] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: :)
[04:24] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: okay, do you know a good writeup for fstab entries? I'm not too familiar with the mount options
[04:24] <ncaller> man fstab
[04:24] <ncaller> its in there
[04:24] <ncaller> actually never mind
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: for something like that id say do user,noauto
[04:24] <ncaller> I just looked at that man page it kind of sucks
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> !fstab
[04:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: see above link ^^
[04:25] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: ok, will try it, one sec
[04:28] <DarkED> crap
[04:28] <DarkED> still nothing
[04:28] <DarkED> "you do not have access rights to this location"
[04:28] <DarkED> thats mounting it through fstab
[04:29] <DarkED> ooh, maybe i need to chmod it
[04:29] <ncaller> DarkED where is it mounting it?
[04:29] <DarkED> ncaller: /dev/sda1 to /media/external
[04:29] <DarkED> ncaller: i sudo mkdir'd the /external and also chmodded it to 777
[04:30] <ncaller> ls -l /media | grep external
[04:30] <DarkED> ncaller: root - root is owner
[04:30] <DarkED> root can view the files
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: try chowning it
[04:31] <DarkED> i ran sudo konqueror and it's working
[04:31] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: how do i do a chown?
[04:31] <Jucato> !kdesu
[04:31] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: sudo chown <username> <path>
[04:32] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: cant do - read only filesystem
[04:32] <DarkED> lol
[04:32] <DarkED> ooh maybe if i umount it THEN chown
[04:32] <DarkED> nope
[04:33] <DarkED> still insufficient permissions =/
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: did you chown the mountpoint or the device?
[04:33] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: the mountpoint
[04:33] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: do i need to chown the /dev?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> ok, just checking :)
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> no
[04:33] <DarkED> :)
[04:33] <DarkED> okay, i know what COULD have done it
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: try adding rw to the fstab options
[04:34] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: ok
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: iirc that should be the right option for read/write
[04:34] <ferret_0567> Can somebody please tell me why pages are cut in half when I print them in KPDF on Feisty? I am trying to print a PDF here, and it works...not so good
[04:35] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: it still gives me 'read-only filesystem'
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> :S
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> how is the drive formatted ie ntfs, ext3?
[04:36] <DarkED> GOT IT!
[04:37] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: it was ntfs
[04:37] <DarkED> i finally got it!
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> that's what i figured :)
[04:37] <DarkED> i copied the options from my /dev/hda1 (windows ntfs drive)
[04:37] <DarkED> user,rw,noauto
[04:37] <DarkED> er...
[04:37] <DarkED> defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser
[04:37] <DarkED> and now it works :)
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> cool :)
[04:37] <ncaller> good deal
[04:37] <DarkED> now, to get it to hotplug
[04:38] <DarkED> hmm, this is a little weird
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> that's a little above my support level...hotplug is kinda new for me :)
[04:38] <DarkED> if i go to the mountpoint in /media/external, no files appear
[04:39] <DarkED> but if i use the icon that popped on the desktop (and which never goes away) it works
[04:39] <DarkED> odd
[04:39] <ncaller> anyone here care to speak about the stability of the latest kdevelop/qtdesigner on feisty? It's one of the reasons I'm upgrading because it kept crashing on dapper for me and I figured I was way out of date
[04:40] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: do you know how i add spaces to mountpoints in fstab?
[04:40] <SuperSub> alexicon: Are you online?
[04:40] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: say /media/External HDD for instance
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> DarkED: put the path that has spaces in quotes
[04:41] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: doesn't work
[04:41] <ncaller> DarkED hard to say, try "/media/External HDD"
[04:41] <SuperSub> does anyone know how to re-install HP scanner Driver?
[04:41] <ncaller> or try /media/External\ HDD/
[04:42] <DarkED> ncaller: will do :)
[04:43] <scorp007> how do I search for packages using the command line?
[04:43] <DarkED> ncaller: nope
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> scorp007: apt-cache search <package name>
[04:43] <DarkED> ncaller: i do know there's a way, i did it once before... lemme search google
[04:43] <scorp007> hitmanWilly: thanks
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:45] <LettuceJoans> ok, I just formatted a partition as ect3 using qtparted, But  when I right click it ans say "mount" it gives me an error :(
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: dpkg --reconfigure hplip?
[04:46] <SuperSub> via terinal window?
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: yup
[04:47] <Endler> Will there be a Thunderbird 2.0 backport available soon?
[04:48] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly:  do understand how to do this
[04:48] <SuperSub> dont*
[04:48] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly:  command only gives me some options
[04:48] <shawkins> Hola!
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: ok, sudo dpkg --purge hplip, then apt-get autoremove, then apt-get install hplip
[04:49] <LettuceJoans> ok, I just formatted a partition as ect3 using qtparted, But  when I right click it ans say "mount" it gives me an error :( what should I do?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: that wipes out hplip, cleans up after it, then re-downloads it
[04:50] <DarkED> aha, figured it out! the symbol for spaces is \040
[04:51] <holycow> hey guys
[04:51] <holycow> lovin kde once again
[04:51] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly:
[04:51] <SuperSub> # apt-get autoremove
[04:51] <SuperSub> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[04:51] <holycow> glad to see this project around
[04:51] <DarkED> hitmanWilly: yeah, it works
[04:51] <shawkins> as am I, been a good year since I've touched kubuntu :)
[04:51] <holycow> is there anything out there that can be termed kde4 installable on an ubuntu/debian platform without compiling from scratch?
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: ok, don't worry about that cmd then, just sudo apt-get install hplip
[04:52] <holycow> shawkins, been 4 years for me
[04:52] <ferret_0567> What disk usage analyzer is most similar to the GNOME disc space analyzer?
[04:52] <holycow> i am deploying ubuntu in our company and gnome is in a really poor state feature wise
[04:52] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly:
[04:52] <SuperSub>  sudo apt-get install hplip
[04:52] <SuperSub> Reading package lists... Done
[04:52] <shawkins> holycow: really? dang, I bet it's a big change for you then
[04:52] <SuperSub> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:52] <SuperSub> hplip is already the newest version.
[04:52] <SuperSub> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:52] <holycow> i'm gonna give kde a go and see how far we get with this
[04:53] <holycow> shawkins, indeed is.
[04:53] <shawkins> holycow: from 4 years ago, it's greatly improved ;) Wonder when 3.x came out
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: try sudo apt-get remove hplip, then sudo apt-get install hplip
[04:53] <holycow> yeah i've seen the odd knoppix orother live cd'shere and then but yeah itgs a whole lot different
[04:55] <ferret_0567> I say KDE is lacking in some areas, take KPDF for example, this retarded app automatically cuts pages in half when I print them, isn't is great?
[04:55] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: xsane image scanner still does not work what else can i do?
[04:56] <imagine> ferret_0567: Okular will fix that...
[04:56] <shawkins> ferret_0567: I'm sure there's a way to stop that
[04:56] <BluesKaj> SuperSub: try kooka
[04:56] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: just flashs saying that it found the scanner but the app does not load
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: is it recoignizing you have a scanner attached?
[04:56] <ferret_0567> So, I just install the "okular" package and it's fixed?
[04:57] <ferret_0567> I was going to use Evince
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: try reinstalling xsane, ie sudo apt-get remove xsane, sudo apt-get install xsane
[04:57] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: just got an error message failed to open device hpaio usb officejet
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> oh, wait a minute
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: its an officejet? you need hpoj then
[04:58] <shawkins> ok.. well time to install Kubuntu, have fun kids
[04:59] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: i already ran those commands you gave me
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: sudo apt-get install hpoj
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: office jets use different drivers iirc
[05:00] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: just tried to run xsane again but with no luck
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> SuperSub: did you install hpoj?
[05:01] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly:yep
[05:01] <SuperSub> hitmanwilly: the error message says that the device is busy.. Really doing nothing
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, check www.linuxprinting.org to see if there's any known issues w/ your model. it may just be a bug...
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> printers are kinda hit or miss
[05:02] <hivemind> Which HP printer is this?
[05:06] <Str_9_r3> I need a gaming server, how do I get it?
[05:11] <ferret_0567> Goodbye Kubuntu, back to GNOME
[05:12] <ferret_0567> You screw up on even simple things like telling me how many pages are printing
[05:12] <ferret_0567> You don't give me the correct number of pages
[05:12] <ferret_0567> bye...and good riddance
[05:14] <dennister> okidoke...azureus is now crashing as soon as I start it up, and the problem seems to be with sun java 5, the runtime environment...any ideas how to fix this problem?
[05:15] <dennister> oops, sun java 6, the jre...i've tried purging and reinstalling both, to no avail
[05:17] <osiris> what program would i use to resample a wav file in kubuntu
[05:17] <osiris> kinda like goldwave
[05:18] <usser> osiris: i'd use ffmpeg
[05:22] <MrWGW> woo dang I wish I'd been in here earlier to flame that <censored>
[05:25] <SilentM> How would I go about settting up a joystick (Non-USB)?
[05:26] <mulv> anyone know how Plasma is going?
[05:27] <hivemind> 0 to Lost in 6 seconds...
[05:27] <mulv> i read on akregator that someone thinks it has stopped?
[05:27] <hivemind> Where did I put my Kubuntu disc?!
[05:28] <xiO_> hi, does anyone know which port kweather uses? my firewall seems to be blocking it
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> xiO_: i would think just http
[05:29] <xiO_> worth a shot
[05:30] <kunjan> so anyone figure out why some external media wont automount in kde-feisty while some will?
[05:31] <xiO_> hitman: you seem to be correct
[05:31] <xiO_> thanks
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> np
[05:35] <flatul> I have checked 9 tutorials and howtos so far. Including the one in this room's announcement (wiki.kubuntu).   ***** How do I listen to MP3s on Kubuntu _LIVECD_. All tutorials instruct to modify the list of repositories. The problem is, that in the LiveCD, the repository list (sources.list) is readonly. I JUST WANT TO HEAR MP3s!
[05:35] <sangers> help
[05:35] <sangers> ?
[05:35] <sangers> menu
[05:35] <gdiebel> dennister: try getting the jar file from azureus website and extract and copy to /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar
[05:36] <kunjan> flatul: download the package for mp3s directly and install it with "dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[05:36] <flatul> kunjan: which package is that? or where do I go to find out?
[05:37] <flatul> this is crazy. Amarok freezes and crashes just because it cannot open the mp3. that's crazy.
[05:38] <flatul> I read that Amarok can fix this problem inside Amarok itself (it refers to the kubuntu-mp3 problem). But I cannot find where.
[05:38] <kunjan> flatul: Amarok crashes on me occasionally too... but then i am running amd64.. its gotten stable tho
[05:38] <flatul> As I said, Amarok freezes and crashes.
[05:38] <gdiebel> flatul: you may wish to install kubuntu to your hard drive
[05:38] <kunjan> not sure what package it is..
[05:39] <flatul> kunjan: it's a very feeble and weak program if it crashes so easily. this is a vanilla 32 bit. (ok, dual core)
[05:40] <flatul> gdiebel: no, I do not want to install kubuntu to hard drive _right now_. I *JUST* want to hear mp3s!
[05:41] <kunjan> flatul: amarok is a very memory intensive program... i dont think it would run well of a live cd especially if you have a large collection the DB requirements can be huge
[05:42] <flatul> kunjan: I want to hear 16 mp3s. I do not want to install. I am running livecd off a 2GB RAM, 1.66ghz dual core
[05:42] <flatul> kunjan: this should be more than enough for amarok, and for kubuntu. and mp3
[05:43] <flatul> I JUST WANNA HEAR MP3S!
[05:43] <kunjan> lol yeah that should be enought
[05:43] <xiO_> would installing gstreamer work?
[05:43] <flatul> xiO_: can that be done without having to mess with repositories?
[05:43] <xiO_> I believe so, try it
[05:43] <Skyblast> amarok uses xine
[05:43] <xiO_> ah, wee
[05:44] <Skyblast> flatul: I don't know how well this will work with the whole OS running in ram but do this in a terminal
[05:44] <Skyblast> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:44] <Skyblast> then try your mp3's in amarok
[05:45] <flatul> Skyblast:
[05:45] <flatul> Package libxine1-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:45] <flatul> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:45] <flatul> is only available from another source
[05:45] <flatul> E: Package libxine1-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[05:45] <flatul> this is kubuntu livecd 7.04
[05:46] <flatul> i cannot edit repositories
[05:47] <xiO_> libxine-main1 ?
[05:48] <flatul> i just installed juk from adept. It installed FINE. It made the mp3 playlist FINE. When I double click on one of the MP3s on the list: NOTHING. no error, no dialog. NO SOUND.
[05:48] <Skyblast> hmmm, that works on a HD install
[05:48] <Skyblast> might try main1, or maybe libxine-extracodecs
[05:48] <flatul> Skyblast: I cannot change repositories.
[05:48] <Skyblast> did you try to edit them with sudo priveleges?
[05:49] <xiO_> fix your sound first, then get mp3s working
[05:49] <zoilom> guys, do you know how to dual boot kubuntu with vista?
[05:49] <Skyblast> Aside from that, I think all repos are enabled by default
[05:49] <Skyblast> Except for backports
[05:49] <gdiebel> flatul: you should be able to edit the repo, iirc. try: alt+f2. then enter: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:49] <flatul> Adept doesn't have any dialog to choose repositories. HOWEVER, Adept shows that "unsupported" and "proprietary software" is selected.
[05:49] <flatul> gdiebel: it tells me it is read only
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> flatul: see if ubuntu-restricted-extras is installable
[05:51] <Skyblast> flatul: you should see if your sound is working at all. Have you tried an ogg file? Those should play out of the box
[05:51] <Skyblast> The other media player not working at all worries me
[05:52] <shahrol> try use headphone..its work for me on my laptop..d builtin speaker didnt hav any sound
[05:53] <flatul> Skyblast: I have now changed with sudo privileges.
[05:53] <flatul> Skyblast: sound is working. All system sounds and beeps and twugs sound fine
[05:54] <Skyblast> hmm
[05:54] <Skyblast> well, sudo apt-get update then try the libxine1-ffmpeg again
[05:54] <flatul> Skyblast: I am doing that last thing
[05:54] <flatul> brb
[05:56] <flatul> Skyblast: it seems it installed fine now.
[05:56] <Skyblast> okay, try your mp3 in amarok
[05:57] <flatul> ok, the mp3 works now. sound is coming out
[05:57] <flatul> HALLELUJAH
[05:57] <Skyblast> hurray
[05:57] <flatul> Skyblast: can this be written down somewhere?
[05:58] <flatul> Skyblast: this set of instructions did NOT work: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[05:58] <flatul> This set of instructions did NOT work either: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php
[05:59] <flatul> neither did this (this is linked from the web site from this room): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:59] <Skyblast> First link is for Dapper. Things have changed significantly since then
[05:59] <Skyblast> Second link is for Edgy
[06:00] <flatul> well those are first places in google, and on this chat room's announcent.
[06:00] <DarkED> hmm, i'm trying to play an XviD .avi file. It works fine in VLC but I only get audio in Kaffeine, no video...
[06:00] <flatul> I'd like to help update them with what you just gave me.
[06:00] <DarkED> i would just use VLC but it doesn't support my multimon setup
[06:00] <Skyblast> Third link has what worked
[06:00] <Skyblast> It just didn't go well with the livecd, I can say with experience that on a HDD install it does work
[06:01] <flatul> I haven't started to work in my own work-related stuff because I've been frustratedly busy trying to make this friggin thing work.
[06:01] <Skyblast> DarkED: Try installing the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[06:02] <flatul> Before I go on with my life, I would like to give something back, so I would like to help put these instructions up. Where can this be done?
[06:03] <heyholmez> anyone know a good ftp client/server software w/ gui
[06:04] <flatul> I lost a couple of hours on this, I'd like to avoid this for someone else.
[06:04] <flatul> heyholmez: bearftp, transmission
[06:05] <DarkED> Skyblast: already installed
[06:05] <Skyblast> flatul: The installation instructions on the Ubuntu wiki  say the right package to install.  You could edit it with a tip for the LiveCD, I suppose.
[06:05] <Skyblast> hmm
[06:05] <Skyblast> Do any videos work?
[06:05] <flatul> heyholmez: Filezilla, KFTPGrabber, gFTP, Casablanca
[06:05] <flatul> Gone with the Wind, Seven Year Itch FTP
[06:06] <heyholmez> anyone know good ftp client/server software w/ gui for linux
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> flatul: try posting it on the wiki
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> !wiki | flatul
[06:06] <ubotu> flatul: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[06:06] <heyholmez> sry slow web irc
[06:07] <snowstorm> anybody know how to play wmv files, ie which packages need to  be installed for that? all I get is a black screen in kaffeine, but the sound works
[06:07] <Jucato> hm.....
[06:08] <Komsip> Yo
[06:08] <Jucato> !w32codecs | snowstorm
[06:08] <ubotu> snowstorm: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:08] <flatul> Skyblast: wiki.kubuntu.com/CommonQuestions redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions which is not a wiki
[06:08] <Jucato> flatul: it is a wiki
[06:08] <snowstorm> Jukato, the w32codecs are installed
[06:08] <heyholmez> ah cool filezille beta for linux
[06:09] <Jucato> help.ubuntu.com/community is the page for user-contributed/community documentation
[06:09] <flatul> there's this on the real wiki, but it redirects to the help.ubuntu non wiki site (http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s)
[06:10] <Jucato> flatul: help.ubuntu.com/community is the page for user-contributed/community documentation
[06:10] <Jucato> flatul: it is  a wiki
[06:10] <flatul> I go to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ but most applicable links would seem to link to non-wiki pages
[06:11] <DarkED> man, i just cannot get this video to play correctly
[06:11] <Jucato> DarkED: what format is it in?
[06:12] <DarkED> Jucato: it's an .avi, XViD
[06:12] <Jucato> DarkED: install libxine-extracodecs
[06:12] <snowstorm> do I need any gstreamer packages for playing wmv files?
[06:12] <DarkED> Jucato: i know it's not the video because it plays fine in VLC player, just not in Kaffeine or any other Xine engine player
[06:13] <DarkED> Jucato: already have extracodecs
[06:13] <Jucato> hm....
[06:13] <DarkED> Jucato: could it be a setting somewhere?
[06:13] <flatul> Skyblast: you say it's a community site. I understand. But it's not a wiki. There's no wiki way to modify this page, for instance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:14] <Jucato> flatul: do you see the "login to edit" at the top?
[06:14] <Jucato> flatul: 4th time. it is a wiki
[06:15] <flatul> Jucato: Skyblast: I apologize. You were right, I was wrong. There indeed is a "login to edit" message in a font size 6. tiny. but you were right.
[06:16] <Jucato> flatul: actually reading the main page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ ) would have saved you a lot of checking as it says there: "Please read WikiGuide before making any edits. Thanks."
[06:16] <nixternal> !wiki
[06:16] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[06:16] <nixternal> ;p
[06:17] <flatul> ubotu: thank you ubotu.
[06:17] <Jucato> !thanks | flatul
[06:17] <Jucato> :D
[06:17] <Jucato> oh slow bot :P
[06:17] <nixternal> haha, I had to do that Jucato, since you stole my mojo ;p
[06:17] <ubotu> flatul: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:17] <flatul> ubotu: I know you are a bot.
[06:17] <nixternal> wow
[06:17] <flatul> ubotu: don't talk to me more
[06:17] <flatul> ubotu: stop
[06:17] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[06:17] <flatul> ubotu: please
[06:17] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[06:18] <DarkED> AHA! GOT IT!
[06:18] <Jucato> DarkED: er.. keep the caps down :)
[06:18] <DarkED> Jucato: win32 codecs directory was wrong :)
[06:18] <nixternal> hahahaha
[06:18] <Jucato> er? O.o
[06:18] <flatul> good bye
[06:18] <DarkED> Jucato: sorry man, but i've been trying to solve this for about 4 hours now
[06:18] <DarkED> Jucato: you'd use caps too
[06:18] <Jucato> no, I'd use lots of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
[06:18] <snowstorm> I have installed w32codecs, libxine1, libxine1-ffmpeg, libxine1-kde, kaffeine-xine, libxine-extracodecs, libarts1-xine, libsmpeg0, mpeglib, libmpeg2-4, ..., so what else could it be? :-)
[06:18] <nixternal> lol! I think I have to agree with DarkED on that one
[06:18] <Jucato> (there's no rule about that :P)
[06:19] <nixternal> snowstorm: what are you tring to do?
[06:19] <nixternal> s/tring/trying/
[06:19] <snowstorm> I am trying to play a wmv file
[06:19] <Jucato> s/trying/frying :)
[06:19] <Jucato> DarkED: though I understand your.. um.. "joy" :D
[06:19] <nixternal> snowstorm: now all wmv's will play, if they have DRM enabled, then you are dead out of luck with it
[06:19] <nixternal> i.e., you can't watch the Microsoft videos ;)
[06:19] <Jucato> s/now/not
[06:20] <DarkED> Jucato: :)
[06:20] <Jucato> snowstorm: translation: if the file is DRM'ed, no can do :)
[06:21] <Jucato> hahha
[06:21] <snowstorm> it has no DRM, I'm sure
[06:21] <nixternal> then it should work with all of that stuff you installed
[06:21] <nixternal> err, REBOOT!
[06:21] <snowstorm> DarkED, what's that with the wrong directory thing? COuld solve my problem as well
[06:21] <nixternal> you have to for wmv and the w32codecs iirc
[06:22] <Jucato> snowstorm: how did you install the w32codec?
[06:22] <DarkED> snowstorm: win32codecs goes into /usr/lib/codecs by default
[06:22] <snowstorm> Jucato, I installed from medibuntu
[06:22] <nixternal> dpkg -l w32codecs......deb
[06:22] <nixternal> ok that is the same thing
[06:22] <DarkED> snowstorm: mine was set to /usr/lib/win32
[06:22] <Jucato> eeek...
[06:22] <Jucato> nixternal: -i :P
[06:22] <nixternal> what did I say?
[06:22] <nixternal> errr, hahaha l, list um!
[06:22] <Jucato> >:)
[06:23] <flatul> goodbye now
[06:24] <nixternal> snowstorm: /usr/lib/win32 should be filled with symlinks to /usr/lib/codecs iirc
[06:24] <nixternal> DarkED rather ^^
[06:24] <snowstorm> nixternal, I do have a sym link /usr/lib/win32 to /usr/lib/codecs
[06:24] <Komsip> what set ofwin32 codecs are you talking about?
[06:25] <nixternal> snowstorm: did you reboot at all since installation?
[06:25] <Komsip> for mplayer? or for xine?
[06:25] <nixternal> win32codecs is win32codecs
[06:25] <Jucato> mplayer needs w32codecs?
[06:25] <snowstorm> nixternal, yes, several times already, I tried since a few days
[06:25] <nixternal> ok, then the issue lies elsewhere
[06:25] <Komsip> Jucato: if you want to view some formats yeah
[06:25] <Jucato> oh I thought it came with everything
[06:26] <Komsip> it has a codec library
[06:26] <snowstorm> so anything else I can check?
[06:26] <Komsip> I haven't understood this whole deb and apt thing yet i'm new to kubuntu/debian
[06:27] <terapicodave> for some reason when I click a url in kopete, quanta the web editor opens the url up...i'd like to make that firefox....any idea where that config info is stored or configured/
[06:28] <terapicodave> ?
[06:28] <leo_> hi to everybody
[06:29] <Jucato> terapicodave: System Settings ->  Default Applications
[06:29] <leo_> has anyone tried Solaris 10 OS?
[06:33] <Komsip> how old is that solaris system?
[06:34] <Komsip> in university we  only had solaris
[06:34] <Komsip> not sure which version
[06:34] <Komsip> in the geomatics section at least
[06:34] <dennister> i've got my first wine app working, with k-menu item and everything :)
[06:34] <Grape_Juice> The rare non-broken version? ;p
[06:34] <Grape_Juice> *kidding*
[06:35] <dennister> although i must say i do like ktorrent better so far...wish they'd get an update that won't crash so often
[06:36] <Jucato> dennister: hasn't crashed for me since... um... version 2.0
[06:36] <Jucato> I guess it just depends on how much you use it (and for what?)
[06:37] <dennister> it was crashing pretty well everyday over the past month while I was still on edgy, and now again on my new feisty
[06:37] <dennister> ever since the last upgrade
[06:37] <Jucato> hm... that's weird.. could it be caused by the torrent itself?
[06:37] <dennister> different torrents
[06:38] <dennister> with the different torrents, and the different versions, the only common denominator is the last upgrade
[06:39] <Jucato> oh... :/
[06:39] <dennister> it never used to crash b4 that last adept-update, b4 feisty was released
[06:39] <Jucato> ktorrent has been kind to me... :/
[06:39] <dennister> ur lucky then :)
[06:40] <millinao> woah, i didnt know that windows flashed in kde
[06:40] <Jucato> possibly... one of those rare times :/
[06:40] <Jucato> O.o
[06:41] <dennister> and i like this winfile...too bad it doesn't have the permissions/ownership info like when konq or nautilus is in tree view
[06:41] <dennister> anyone know how to make konq's default view tree, instead of the icon view?
[06:42] <dennister> with nautilus it's easy to make this tree view the default view
[06:43] <dennister> i see no practical use for icons whatsoever...you just have to open them, which is a waste of clicks and time
[06:44] <Jucato> View -> View Mode -> Treeview then Settings -> Save View Profile?
[06:44] <dennister> k...will try
[06:45] <gdiebel> dennister: if you aren't keen on icons, give krusader a whirl.
[06:46] <Jucato> although that's a big jump from "not liking icons" to "liking twin panel file management" :D
[06:46] <icecruncher> gdiebel: yeah, krusader is awesome
[06:48] <dennister> gdiebel: maybe i will thx, cause jucato's suggestion didn't work, but thx anyway jucato
[06:48] <Jucato> it didn't? weird...
[06:49] <Jucato> are you sure you saved and used the correct view profile?
[06:50] <dennister> yes, i'm sure...closed it, reopened it, and icons are back...when i went to load the saved profile again, there was no change at all
[06:50] <dennister> i remember hearing good things about krusader a long time ago, actually, but wasn't at home so i forgot all about it
[06:51] <dennister> i mean, why would anyone want icons anyway if they just have to be opened?
[06:51] <Corbin|Tuxing> what is a good program for linux like dreamweaver other than bluefish
[06:51] <dennister> folder icons, that is
[06:52] <Jucato> dennister: one word: "choice"
[06:52] <Jucato> I have no technical or usability reason to prefer icons over a list or tree view. I just happen to like it like that.
[06:52] <dennister> ok, and i guess the winblows pps are used to folder icons
[06:52] <Jucato> hm... maybe or maybe not
[06:53] <Jucato> on Windows I used to always use a list view of sorts
[06:53] <dennister> i'm an old dos user from way back...i used to love a file manager called xtree
[06:55] <dennister> my 18-year-old linux-resister can't understand why i prefer windows explorer to the my computer method of one set of folders after another
[06:55] <Tired_> everybody has their own way.
[06:56] <Tired_> i kinda like using ls and tab completion
[06:56] <dennister> all right gdiebel! a man after my own heart...didn't think anyone would have heard of that prog
[06:56] <Jucato> :)
[06:56] <Jucato> weirdos have found each other :P
[06:57] <dennister> roflmho
[06:57] <Tired_> ...should that be the topic for today?
[06:57] <dennister> although i fail to see why using a good, old program wouuld make someone wierd
[06:57] <dennister> lol
[06:58] <Jucato> dennister: the fact that it's "good and old" is self-explanatory :P
[06:58] <Tired_> so, anybody ever heard of such a thing as a portable email server?
[06:58] <dennister> *would never hit jucato :)
[06:59] <dennister> jucato is just too helpful to too many...and that's appreciated
[06:59] <Jucato> hahah :)
[06:59] <Jucato> you can hit me anytime... of course, I will hit back... in a nice way :)
[06:59] <Tired_> i'm trying to find some kind of email thingie that will suck up email when it has a net connection and distribute it when it doesn't, like on a usb stick
[07:00] <Jucato> Tired_: like this? http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable
[07:00] <Jucato> oh server.. sorry
[07:00] <Tired_> no
[07:01] <Tired_> something that can be passed around to many people, who don't have net access, so they can get email
[07:01] <Tired_> and then back to somewhere that does have email, so it can sync up new emails for the next time
[07:01] <Tired_> does that make sense?
[07:01] <Tired_> sorta hard to explain
[07:02] <dennister> ok...now have to configure krusader...bbs
[07:02] <Jucato> not to me... but I'm a server noob anyway :)
[07:02] <Tired_> me too.  i had the idea, but I don't know if it's actually possible
[07:03] <shawkins> Tired_: what possible?
[07:04] <Tired_> A program I can use to do this:  A USB stick is plugged in at my house, which has net, and retrieves email for several accounts.  The stick is then physically taken to several places that don't have net, so they can sync their emails off the stick to their respective email clients.  The empty stick then makes it way back to me to repeat the process.
[07:05] <shawkins> I'm certain it's possible :) These people, using Windows? Linux? Or a mix?
[07:05] <Tired_> Seems to me I'd heard of the idea before, for schools in Africa or something
[07:06] <Tired_> ideally, i'd like it to be platform indepandant, but probably it'll be just windows and ubuntu users
[07:07] <Tired_> the ubuntu user being me at the net connection end
[07:08] <icecruncher> just wondering, what do you use for a shoutcast server?
[07:08] <shawkins> yeah, that doesn't seem like it'd be too hard
[07:08] <dennister> hmmmm...i *really* like Krusader :)
[07:08] <shawkins> and.. while I can't do it right now, sometime I'll look around, there might be something like that
[07:08] <gdiebel> icecruncher: icecast-server
[07:09] <gdiebel> dennister: I kinda figured you would after you mentioned xtree
[07:10] <dennister> since this is a new feisty install, i still have lots of zipped files to move around and stuff, so the split view is sooooo great for moving lots of stuff around
[07:10] <dennister> i know the other filemanagers have split view, but with krusader it's the default
[07:10] <Tired_> i like the cube for that, but then, i just got the cube, so I like it for everything
[07:11] <Tired_> :)
[07:11] <dennister> what's the cube for?
[07:11] <Tired_> beryl
[07:11] <Tired_> the desktop cube
[07:12] <dennister> ah...i haven't seen any practical use for beryl yet
[07:12] <Tired_> it's great for organizing your windows
[07:12] <dennister> except that i was told my son would finally be converted from a linux resister if he saw beryl :) that might do it for me
[07:12] <Tired_> likely true
[07:12] <Tired_> it's impressive
[07:13] <Jucato> if kwin_composite turns out as hoped, then we can all probably put compiz-beryl aside :)
[07:13] <Tired_> whats that?
[07:13] <dennister> of course, my son's in the doghouse right now...i have no itnention of getting hold of him anytime soon
[07:14] <Tired_> ooooh
[07:14] <Jucato> Tired_: kwin_composite? kde4's new implementation of kwin (window manager) that will have compositing built-in and done right
[07:14] <dennister> what's kwin_composite going to do? any practical use?
[07:14] <Tired_> oh cool.  leave it to kde to integrate it in
[07:14] <Jucato> dennister: what does beryl do? any practical use? :D
[07:15] <shawkins> sorry, had to attend to something
[07:15] <Jucato> Tired_: actually, kwin already has a separate compositing engine, but not built-in to kwin and a bit buggy
[07:15] <dennister> cute...no i mean it, will it do anything practical? besides get converts?
[07:15] <Jucato> kompmgr was more of a proof of concept and experiment that got into KDE's base
[07:15] <Tired_> but i'm sure it'll be all integrated with kcontrol, rather than all separate like now
[07:16] <Jucato> dennister: depends on what you would consider practical.
[07:16] <Jucato> Tired_: kompmgr is integrated with kcontrol :)
[07:16] <Jucato> has always been
[07:16] <Tired_> :)
[07:16] <Jucato> dennister: for one, it takes advantage of graphics capabilities for improved window management (technical benefits)
[07:17] <Jucato> dennister: being built from kwin also ensures that you have an already tested, working, and stable window manager that you could rely on
[07:17] <dennister> i consider something practical if it burns or rips a cd/dvd...or gives more control/info on settings...or gives better versioning tools than openoffice
[07:17] <Tired_> the trick modes aren't really something you can comprehend the utility of until you integrate it into your workflow, I think
[07:18] <dennister> i can't stand the fact that ms word is still better for versioning than openoffice
[07:18] <Jucato> dennister: hm... we're talking about a window manager though :)
[07:18] <Jucato> window managers don't do any of those
[07:18] <Tired_> being able to peel back the corner of my AbiWord window to look at a firefox page I was referring to is handy, for example
[07:18] <dennister> i know...reliability for anything is important...
[07:19] <Jucato> ryanakca: ping
[07:19] <Jucato> oh this is getting ridiculous...
[07:19] <dennister> dvd:rip, acidrip...graveman...not reliable at all...reliability can apply to any category of software apps...i know u were limiting your discussion to window managers, but i wasn't
[07:19] <Tired_> and the moral of this story is...auto connect is evil
[07:20] <Jucato> hm.. seems to have stopped...
[07:20] <Tired_> dvd:rip has never failed me
[07:21] <dennister> lol...ok Tired_ you've sold me on the benefits of a better window manager with:
[07:21] <Jucato> dennister: ok... well since we were talking about kwin_composite and you asked what were its practical uses/advantages, I presumed you were also referring to kwin :)
[07:21] <dennister>  <Tired_> being able to peel back the corner of my AbiWord window to look at a firefox page I was referring to is handy, for example
[07:22] <facundo> hi
[07:22] <dennister> That is of practical use :)
[07:22] <Jucato> heh that depends on how much you have to peel back anyway :D
[07:22] <Tired_> it's little things that make it handy, like that.  you'll find other things, too.
[07:23] <Jucato> I find it "useful" (personally) to keep non-focused windows semi transparent... it sort of keeps me focused... just me
[07:23] <dennister> hunting between tons of apps with alt-tab for something you want to copy and paste is a bore...and time consuming
[07:23] <Tired_> well, I do it now 100% more often than I did before I had the ability.
[07:23] <dennister> lol @ Tired_
[07:24] <Jucato> well, when you peel a corner of the window, you're not free to use your mouse to copy text...
[07:24] <Jucato> afaik
[07:24] <Tired_> mo
[07:24] <Tired_> er no
[07:24] <Jucato> moo
[07:24] <Tired_> but if you need to paste, you'd switch windows...peeling is just if you need a quick glance
[07:24] <Jucato> yep
[07:25] <dennister> ok...gotcha
[07:25] <Jucato> what I would probably like best are the "Expos" and pager features (not the cube)
[07:25] <Jucato> ah getting offtopic are wee
[07:25] <Jucato> we*
[07:26] <Tired_> i like the cube a lot.  it actauly makes multiple desktops useful
[07:26] <dennister> lol...for some reason this feisty isntall got the wrong keyboard layout at first...had to really fight to type in an apostrophe and a following letter...but i did get it fixed
[07:26] <Tired_> en-CA?
[07:27] <Tired_> i've done that a lot.  i don't parlez voud francais, so that layout doesn't help me much
[07:27] <dennister> i don't think we're offtopic, we're discussing the possibilities of ubuntu apps like kwin
[07:27] <Jucato> Tired_: the pager (I think Beryl calls it "wall plugin" or something) is more useful for me, specially when I want to put a window on another desktop that isn't next to the current desktop
[07:27] <dennister> i actually had us:international
[07:27] <Jucato> oh, the cube would also be useful if it actually worked with KDE's virtual desktops :(
[07:28] <Tired_> ... it doesn't?
[07:28] <Jucato> (or rather, if Beryl did)
[07:28] <dennister> any idea when this kwin might be released?
[07:28] <Jucato> Beryl doesn't work well with KDE virtual desktops. it multiplies the number of viewports by the number of desktops
[07:28] <Jucato> dennister: kde 4
[07:29] <dennister> anticipated date?
[07:29] <Tired_> oh.  maybe i'm confusing desktops and viewports
[07:29] <Jucato> October 2007 (target... very very tentative)
[07:29] <Jucato> Tired_: you must be :D
[07:29] <shawkins> bah... gotta go
[07:29] <shawkins> have fun guys, I need to take care of some things, later
[07:29] <Tired_> oh, speaking of beryl, I had an odd issue the other day
[07:29] <Jucato> Tired_: also, beryl in general doesn't work well with Kicker...like the taskbar
[07:29] <dennister> hmmm...maybe i'll try beryl then...even if the kid is in the doghouse he'll probably show up on my b-day or mother's day (2 days apart)
[07:30] <Tired_> I opened a new firefox window, and it was totally black
[07:30] <Tired_> when I reduced the size of the window a lot, it got contents, but when I made it bigger, it was black again
[07:30] <Jucato> Tired_: hm... try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <Tired_> oh, it went away and never happened again.  it was just odd.
[07:31] <jussi01> someone remind me what needs to be installed for ark to like RAR's?
[07:31] <Jucato> jussi01: unrar
[07:31] <icecruncher> rar
[07:31] <Jucato> (and rar to make RAR's)
[07:31] <Jucato> unrar to decompress/extract and rar to compress
[07:32] <jussi01> thanks lads
[07:33] <Tired_> oooh, my show is half over
[07:33] <Tired_> lol
[07:33] <Tired_> i actually used to do theatre
[07:34] <Jucato> and that's suppose to make me not go "ewww"? :D
[07:34] <Tired_> um, no?
[07:34] <Tired_> just sort of ironic given your 'ew'.
[07:36] <Jucato> :D
[07:37] <icecruncher> someone know a good site for liux apps reviews?
[07:37] <dennister> aha! i now have no less than 2 working windows apps in wine! :)
[07:37] <Tired_> lol, I got iTuhnes going today  :)
[07:37] <dennister> so far it's utorrent and dvdshrink
[07:38] <Arwen> I tried running wine in wine :-\
[07:38] <Tired_> dvd95 is ok, also, for something native
[07:38] <dennister> lol @ Arwen
[07:38] <Arwen> dennister, it works :-)
[07:38] <dennister> that's hilarious
[07:39] <dennister> what's funny is that dvd shrink was always open source to begin with...but not now i don't believe...now it's only windows based
[07:40] <Jucato> (an app can be open-source *and* for windows only, though)
[07:40] <Tired_> the repos have an extensive selection of good dvd ripping programs and video stuff
[07:40] <dennister> oh, ok...didn't know that
[07:41] <Arwen> DVD Shrink was never open source...
[07:41] <dennister> i've tried lots of them...ripping music off my cd's to keep them in pristine condition is not a problem, with movies it's much harder
[07:41] <ubuntu__> hello
[07:42] <dennister> ok...stand corrected...it was always freeware tho
[07:42] <ubuntu__> i would like to know which type of partition to use for kubuntu
[07:42] <ubuntu__> should i use reiserfs?
[07:42] <Arwen> ubuntu_, you should use which ever one is your personal preference
[07:42] <Jucato> ubuntu__: ext3 is ok. unless you actually need/prefer something else
[07:42] <Arwen> like... maybe FAT 16
[07:42] <ubuntu__> hmmm ty ::)
[07:42] <ubuntu__> so i'll use ext3 :D
[07:42] <Jucato> Arwen: er...?
[07:43] <dennister> i made an original dvd training video last spring, and because the office didn't have any true dvd authoring apps (ms partner) they used dvd shrink to make the copies
[07:43] <ubuntu__> btw.. which is the difference between reiserfs and ext3:
[07:43] <ubuntu__> ?
[07:43] <Jucato> ubuntu__: hm... very technical details I think...
[07:43] <Arwen> reiserfs uses extents and tail-packing to try and achieve higher speed with small files
[07:43] <dennister> i had to use it to make one hour actually fit on the dvd
[07:44] <Arwen> DVDs need to die.... MPEG-2 for that matter too
[07:44] <unix_infidel> simply put, in some instances reiser is faster and in some instances ext2/3 is faster.
[07:44] <Jucato> reiserfs isn't officially supported by the linux kernel also I think
[07:44] <ubuntu__> Arwen nice :) ty
[07:44] <unix_infidel> generally ext3 is better supported.
[07:44] <dennister> lol...why Arwen?
[07:44] <Arwen> because they're 10 year old technology and way better solutions exist?
[07:44] <terapicodave> Jucato...I asked about the default applications but I'm actually using gnome and kopete...there's no system settings -> default apps
[07:44] <dennister> such as?
[07:44] <Arwen> like H.264 + AAC in Matroska
[07:44] <ubuntu__> i used reiserfs in slackware... but just because someone recommended me :S
[07:44] <Jucato> terapicodave: oh...
[07:45] <Jucato> Arwen: hm... KDE is also 10 years old now :D
[07:45] <ubuntu__> anyway, ty for the help :)
[07:45] <dennister> good one jucato
[07:45] <Noldoaran> I have 2 kmenu questions: 1. Where does kde store its kmenu configuration? I want to copy my kmenu configuration(the menu layout) for another user to use.
[07:45] <Tired_> but kde's not locked
[07:45] <terapicodave> jucato maybe i can get to that tool from the cli?
[07:45] <Arwen> Jucato, that's why there's KDE 4 coming up
[07:45] <Jucato> Arwen: but still 10 years old :)
[07:45] <Jucato> it will be 11 by the time KDE 4 comes up :)
[07:45] <Tired_> mpeg-2 will never improve
[07:46] <Arwen> MPEG-1/2 will always be MPEG-1/2... it's reached its limit, let it die
[07:46] <Doctor_Nick> I'll improve you!
[07:46] <sonoftheclayr> Arwen: get rid of cd's too? and books? and hell, while we're at it lets get rid of usb and ethernet
[07:46] <Jucato> terapicodave: hm... you'd have to install kcontrol I think. let me check if there's a config file you can edit
[07:46] <dennister> to me dvd is just a media...not like a protocol ...heck, cd's are older than dvd's, but still in use and much smaller for storage
[07:47] <Tired_> does anything in kubuntu play hd-dvd yet?
[07:47] <Arwen> sonoftheclayr, yes please.....
[07:47] <terapicodave> thanks
[07:47] <Arwen> CDs need to die.... Books are unbeatable for physical text, and USB is inherently flaws
[07:47] <Jucato> Arwen: also not all countries have the luxury of having switched fully to the DVD culture
[07:47] <Noldoaran> 2. What does "enable Launch feedback" mean in kmenuedit? The help just doesn't help..
[07:47] <Jucato> anyway, quite !offtopic now
[07:47] <Arwen> Jucato, eh?
[07:48] <Arwen> yes, but it's past midnight, we can afford to be offtopic
[07:48] <Jucato> only in your place :)
[07:48] <Lynoure> For reference texts, ascii on CD is much nicer for me than 3kg of books
[07:48] <sonoftheclayr> past midnight! it's nearly 4 in the arvo
[07:48] <dennister> only past midnight in some parts of the world
[07:48] <Noldoaran> heh, it's 10:47 here
[07:48] <dennister> 1:48 in toronto
[07:48] <Arwen> Lynoure, reading text off a screen hurts mine eyes... Just my 2 cents though
[07:48] <Jucato> Noldoaran: Launch Feedback = bouncing (or flashing) cursor when you launch an app
[07:49] <Lynoure> Arwen: aren't 2 cents usually advice?
[07:49] <Jucato> Arwen: adjust your monitor or color scheme. that's what hurts your eyes too :)
[07:49] <Jucato> Lynoure: yep :)
[07:49] <ubuntu__> ReiserFS is better
[07:49] <Arwen> Jucato, meh, it's the glare
[07:49] <Jucato> $0.02... that's the worth of advice these days :)
[07:49] <Lynoure> Arwen: mine too, if I have too low or too high contrast, but only then. I guess I'm lucky.
[07:49] <Arwen> ubuntu__,data loss
[07:49] <ubuntu__> but it 'consumes' more the CPU
[07:49] <ubuntu__> at least 7%
[07:49] <dennister> for me it's my cataracts...lol...can't wait for my surgery...wild when going blind is actually a good thing
[07:50] <dennister> i'll have better eyesight than i've had since i was six years old...no more coke bottle glasses
[07:50] <Noldoaran> Tired_: I am pretty sure there is no app to play HD-DVD/Blu-Rey yet...
[07:50] <Tired_> :/
[07:51] <Arwen> Blu-Ray will crash and burn :-\
[07:51] <dennister> Noldoaran: i think there is actually...saw it in the feisty community docs
[07:51] <Tired_> oh, is launch feedback the little bouncing ball?
[07:51] <Jucato> terapicodave: I think I found it. ~/.kde/share/config/ the kdeglobals file
[07:51] <Noldoaran> dennister: ok, I look around
[07:51] <terapicodave> ok i'll check it out
[07:52] <dennister> well i'm gonna try to do some reading and hit the sack...night boys
[07:52] <Jucato> terapicodave: in that file, under the [General]  heading, add this line: BrowserApplication=!firefox
[07:52] <Tired_> gnight denni
[07:52] <Noldoaran> Tired_: yes, that seems to be it, thanks!
[07:52] <anon32> I know for a fact that ACCS is cr4ck3d so Blu-Ray should be playable now
[07:53] <Tired_> maybe, but playable in real-time?
[07:53] <Noldoaran> any one know wher the kmenu config file are?
[07:53] <anon32> Tired_, true
[07:54] <Tired_> i remember trying to play dvds on a 266 mhz
[07:54] <icecruncher> Noldoaran, maybe in ~/,kde somewhere
[07:54] <Jucato> Noldoaran: the main menu implementations are a bit more complicated than simply copying a config file...
[07:54] <Noldoaran> Jucato: grr.. ok, do you know what it involves?
[07:55] <icecruncher> anyone know how to enable 3D?
[07:55] <Jucato> Noldoaran: but the general location would be ~/.config/menus/
[07:55] <anon32> icecruncher, what card?
[07:55] <Noldoaran> icecruncher: I looked in there and couldn't find it
[07:55] <terapicodave> I did that...guess I need to restart something
[07:55] <icecruncher> anon32: ati
[07:55] <anon32> icecruncher, model?
[07:55] <icecruncher> just a sec
[07:56] <Jucato> Noldoaran: that's for user-specific kmenu layout. the system-wide one is in /etc/xdg/config/menus/ I think
[07:56] <icecruncher> anon32: 9200 SE
[07:56] <Noldoaran> Jucato: ok thanks
[07:57] <anon32> icecruncher, err.... that should be working out of the box
[07:57] <Jucato> Noldoaran: er make that /etc/xdg/menus
[07:58] <icecruncher> anon32, do you have to eable it ?
[07:58] <anon32> icecruncher, no? just choose "ati" as your driver in xorg.conf
[07:58] <Jucato> !ati
[07:58] <anon32> icecruncher, oh, btw, you sound like you need a new video card :-)
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:59] <icecruncher> anon32: err in etc ?
[07:59] <anon32> icecruncher, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <anon32> under device, just set the driver to "ati"
[07:59] <anon32> or "radeon"
[07:59] <anon32> doesn't matter which
[07:59] <Jucato> ati has 3D hardware acceleration working out of the box?
[07:59] <anon32> Jucato, for 9200SE? yes...
[07:59] <Jucato> wow
[07:59] <icecruncher> anon32; got no cash :)
[08:00] <anon32> icecruncher, I can hook you up with a 7600GT for $80, lol
[08:00] <icecruncher> lol
[08:00] <init2null> can someone help me set up my new widescreen monitor?
[08:01] <icecruncher> I'm in for a new machine, running a P2 celeron.
[08:01] <icecruncher> currently
[08:01] <init2null> i did the dpkg-reconfigure and i got kdm to the right res, but the desktop goes back to 1024x768
[08:02] <anon32> icecruncher, lol, you don't need a 7600 then :-)
[08:02] <icecruncher> no
[08:02] <anon32> init2null, ...enter xorg.conf, under the screen section, just type in the one you want
[08:04] <init2null> anon32, the subsections are all 1440x900
[08:04] <anon32> init2null, looks like you need 915resolution then
[08:04] <anon32> btw, widescreen = fail
[08:05] <init2null> i would have preferred 1600x1200, fwiw
[08:06] <anon32> init2null, same, my LCD is a cheap one and only 1280x1024 though
[08:06] <init2null> anon32, i installed 915resolution, but it says it only works with intel 800/900 chipsets
[08:07] <init2null> i have an nvidia card
[08:07] <anon32> init2null, ...didn't you say Intel a few lines up?
[08:07] <init2null> nope
[08:07] <Jucato> !away > bruno_
[08:07] <anon32> well, have fun with your nvidia config then...
[08:08] <init2null> would the scanlines from the windows driver inf file help?
[08:09] <the_hammer> im using fiesty 7.04 finnal and having some problems with kcontrol
[08:09] <the_hammer> when i click on the monitor in there and try to goto admin mode it says loading but i dont get the box with the pw
[08:09] <the_hammer> like im supposed to
[08:09] <the_hammer> how to fix that?
[08:10] <the_hammer> fiesty sure lives upto its name boy oh boy all i do is fight with it
[08:10] <the_hammer> anyone able to help me ?
[08:12] <the_hammer> wonderfull i come on and im talking to myself
[08:12] <init2null> hammer, it does that for me too, but I don't know why
[08:12] <init2null> maybe kde's monitor config isn't supported
[08:13] <the_hammer> is it just me or does the beta seem better then the finnal
[08:13] <the_hammer> i never had any problems with the beta
[08:13] <the_hammer> the finnal is a different story
[08:13] <icecruncher> the_hammer: worse, i like the final
[08:14] <the_hammer> half ass tempted to go back to old mepis
[08:15] <the_hammer> old packages but at least everything works
[08:15] <Simeon_H> MEPIS :D
[08:15] <Simeon_H> I miss mepis
[08:15] <the_hammer> im starting to miss it myself lol
[08:16] <anon32> !mepis
[08:16] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[08:16] <anon32> ?
[08:16] <Simeon_H> ok
[08:16] <the_hammer> Fedora uses rpms
[08:16] <Simeon_H> I just ordered feisty CD's
[08:16] <the_hammer> well hope your not as disappointed as i am
[08:17] <Simeon_H> I'll tell you in 6-8 weeks
[08:17] <anon32> there's no option to order 1x 32-bit and 1x 64-bit...
[08:17] <anon32> annoying
[08:18] <the_hammer> the kcontrol is messed up i goto the kmenu to set up my display i click admin mode and says loading but the stupid box where ya put the pw dont come up just says loading and thats it
[08:18] <Simeon_H> well you could make a custom order
[08:18] <Simeon_H> but that would take longer
[08:18] <anon32> yeah, but that takes even longer :-\
[08:18] <the_hammer> hell with it i goto mepis night all
[08:19] <anon32> wtf is mepis???
[08:19] <Simeon_H> an awesome distro
[08:19] <Simeon_H> I use kubuntu because I get the CD's shipped to me for free
[08:19] <Simeon_H> seeing as I have super super slow internetz
[08:20] <anon32> I have a broadband line but it still seems to take forever to connect to servers...
[08:20] <anon32> maybe there's some kind of anti-net neutrality going on
[08:21] <ubuntu__> anyone online?
[08:21] <ubuntu__> i need some help
[08:21] <aaron_> hi, I'm trying to use the... ha.. .I just figured it out... kde 4 for EDGY.. .I'm using F ... haha
[08:21] <aaron_> ask away
[08:22] <aaron_> and be patient
[08:22] <ubuntu__> i am running kubuntu now from a cd
[08:22] <ubuntu__> and would like to know how to install beryl
[08:22] <ubuntu__> :D
[08:22] <Simeon_H> well I suppose you could install it to RAM
[08:22] <Simeon_H> but err
[08:23] <aaron_> I have no idea....  however, I do know that it depends on the version of kubuntu you are running
[08:23] <aaron_> and you probably need to install it to your HD
[08:23] <tmulvaney> any one know of a qt based beryl manager?
[08:23] <aaron_> then just apt-get install it
[08:23] <ubuntu__> i have the latest kubuntu...its from the internet
[08:23] <aaron_> ...
[08:23] <anon32> ubuntu_, uh... apt-get install beryl
[08:23] <ubuntu__> can you give me a link or smthing from where i can download beryl?
[08:24] <anon32> ...beryl is in the universe repos....
[08:24] <aaron_> ubuntu__  I thought ubuntu has a niceness wrapper arround apt that will tell you if that package is in a different repo
[08:25] <ubuntu__> untill yesterday i was using only windows...since i was 9...so i am a noob in linux :D
[08:25] <anon32> there's sooo many people named "ubuntu" here....
[08:25] <anon32> ubuntu__, assuming you have a 7.04 Live CD, you can just turn on universe and run 'apt-get install beryl'
[08:25] <Simeon_H> because irc uses the machine name
[08:25] <Simeon_H> by default
[08:25] <anon32> ah
[08:26] <anon32> lol
[08:26] <Simeon_H> errr I mean login name
[08:26] <icecruncher> and it's more like 2 ppl
[08:26] <Simeon_H> and it's ubuntu with a live CD
[08:26] <anon32> icecruncher, there's a new "ubuntu" each day
[08:26] <icecruncher> lol
[08:26] <ubuntu__> turn on univers?
[08:26] <aaron_> ubuntu__: to turn on universe, poke arround with the package manager, and uncomment a line, or search for add a repository
[08:26] <ubuntu__> what is that? sorry ...:D
[08:27] <aaron_> ubuntu you will either edit /etc/apt/sources.list  or just use aptitude, the package manager
[08:27] <ubuntu__> and where do i find tha aptitude thingy?
[08:27] <ubuntu__> or the packet manager
[08:28] <aaron_> ubuntu__: I think there is a way to use start-> system -> adept manager to do it
[08:28] <gdiebel> aaron_: feisty has such a wrapper. if you try and run a program you don't have it tells you the package you need to apt-get. also feisty has all repos enabled by default expect backports
[08:28] <terapicodave> Jucato: sweetness that worked! thanks a lot.
[08:28] <aaron_> ubuntu__: I think you need to install it first ;)
[08:28] <Jucato> terapicodave: you're welcome :)
[08:29] <icecruncher> anybody know a software directory (web based) other than FSF?
[08:29] <aaron_> ubuntu__: there may be other livecd's that support beryl right out of the box, butit is still kinda beta
[08:29] <icecruncher> for linux naturally
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: freshmeat sourceforge
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: to name 2...
[08:29] <aaron_> icecruncher: tucows has a list
[08:30] <ubuntu__> oke...i am in the packae manager
[08:30] <icecruncher> thnks
[08:30] <aaron_> icecruncher: distrowatch has a list of what programs comes with the distro...
[08:30] <ubuntu__> but i cant find there beryl...does i have another name?
[08:30] <aaron_> ubuntu__: you'll probably have to install it first
[08:30] <qsu> hi
[08:30] <ubuntu__> from where??
[08:30] <ubuntu__> doesn't it have a setup?
[08:30] <aaron_> ubuntu__: kubuntu...
[08:31] <aaron_> ubuntu__:  Maybe, i think i saw something about that, but I wouldn't have put that utility on the livecd
[08:31] <anon32> ubuntu__, beryl-project.org
[08:32] <ubuntu__> i was on that site all night long
[08:32] <anon32> if you're new to Ubuntu, you probably don't wanna try setting up beryl/compiz
[08:32] <aaron_> ubuntu__ beryl is in my list...
[08:32] <wolferine> ubuntu_, trying to setup beryl?
[08:32] <aaron_> ubuntu__ of course, I have all the repositories enabled
[08:32] <ubuntu__> man....its so hard for me now....after so many years of windows its so completly different
[08:32] <aaron_> ubunu__ enabling repositories suxks the first couple of times, just search for how to do that, and maybe the berly ubuntu howto :)
[08:33] <thomas__> hi
[08:33] <ubuntu__> ok
[08:33] <ubuntu__> everything seemd to be so easy...why is beryl so hard to install?
[08:34] <thomas__> can somebody help me with a kernel question?
[08:34] <aaron_> ubuntu__ wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[08:34] <anon32> thomas__, me... maybe
[08:34] <thomas__> I need to know the differences (patches) between vanilla and kubuntu kernel
[08:34] <wolferine> ubuntu_, did you get it to install yet?
[08:34] <anon32> ubuntu__, it's not - it's just not blindingly easy
[08:35] <ubuntu__> thank you aaron
[08:35] <anon32> thomas__, oh, can't help ya there
[08:35] <thomas__> any ideas where i can get such piece of info?
[08:36] <anon32> kernel team, docs, debian changelog for kernel
[08:36] <thomas__> hmm...
[08:37] <thomas__> i wanted to join the kernel.org mailinglist, but that was no good idea (about 3000 mails per day i think)
[08:38] <thomas__> the docs do not really help and the changelog does not say "We use the xyz patch from http..." it just says: hey! you can now use your xyz hardware!"
[08:38] <wolferine> why are you interested thomas__ ?
[08:39] <thomas__> i want to compile my own kernel and want to get to know more about "the internals" ;-)
[08:39] <wolferine> good luck with that
[08:39] <anon32> thomas__, so just fetch a vanilla kernel and have fun
[08:39] <thomas__> lol
[08:39] <fdoving> thomas__: ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[08:39] <wolferine> u have a kernel to work with?
[08:40] <thomas__> i tried the 2.6.20.4 vanilla but it didn't start (...ok i got a kernel panic, but thats not what i call "start") ;-)
[08:40] <anon32> thomas__, heh, it's all about that 2.6.21 shiat now :-)
[08:41] <thomas__> so i used oldconfig and got 1000errors because of all the patches which where configured in the old kernel....
[08:41] <thomas__> yes true, i think i will have a look at the 2.6.21, because they say it has now better support for my S3 graphics card
[08:41] <thomas__> i have several kernels here so i would not damage much...
[08:43] <wolferine> anyone network admins?
[08:45] <thomas__> no but perhaps can i help?
[08:45] <wolferine> nope
[08:45] <Shiva88> don't be afraid to just ask your question...someone may have an answer for you :)
[08:45] <wolferine> Shiva88, in not "afraid" to ask
[08:46] <wolferine> im looking for a yes
[08:46] <fdoving> yes.
[08:46] <wolferine> fdoving, hear of nagios?
[08:46] <Shiva88> i'm sorry, i didn't mean it literally... it's a figure of speech :)
[08:46] <fdoving> wolferine: yes.
[08:46] <wolferine> iptrack?
[08:47] <fdoving> wolferine: never used iptrack.
[08:48] <wolferine> do you use anything to track users b/w, space, etc?
[08:48] <fdoving> no.
[08:48] <fdoving> you're looking for a quota system for users in your network?
[08:48] <wolferine> any other tools you might recommend, that are similar
[08:49] <wolferine> well, i want to be able to track a specific users use(processes, b/w,etc) all in one kinda thing
[08:50] <qsu> how much is enough to install kubuntu on a usbstick
[08:50] <FireTalon> at least a 1gb stick
[08:51] <fdoving> wolferine: i've done something similar on one machine, for a ppp server. with ppp-acct and acct.
[08:52] <wolferine> fdoving, can you recommend other tools as well?
[08:52] <wolferine> ethereal, I have used in the past
[08:53] <fdoving> wolferine: i guess an snmp server on each machine, if you have a network of computers, can give you some information that can be analyzed.
[08:54] <ryks> hi all
[08:54] <ryks> aldin?
[08:55] <wolferine> how long you worked in the field fdoving ?
[08:58] <fdoving> wolferine: 3 years, but i quited 2 years ago. :)
[08:58] <wolferine> ah
[08:58] <wolferine> any pointers for someone just starting out?
[08:59] <voicu> what was the command to start a program in a specific directory without cd-ing in it?
[08:59] <fdoving> wolferine: google.com is the best :)
[08:59] <fdoving> voicu: depends on the program i guess.
[08:59] <wolferine> voicu, /this/is/where/it/is/this_is_the_app_i_want_to_run
[09:00] <wolferine> fdoving, k, well thanks
[09:00] <voicu> no, i mean to set the startup directory of that program without running it while inside that directory
[09:00] <fdoving> wolferine: you can also have a look at ntop, not sure it does what you want, but it can be usefull.
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> interesting app for setting up Xorg (resolution, graphics card, mouse etc) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/X.org+Setup?content=56982
[09:01] <fdoving> voicu: depends on the program.
[09:01] <wolferine> network top
[09:01] <voicu> there is a command for that, i just forgot it
[09:02] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: looks a lot like SUSE's YaST/SaX
[09:02] <fdoving> voicu: if there is a separate command you can use 'cd /path/to/dir', no need for another command.
[09:03] <fdoving> voicu: but as said, it depends on the program, what program is this?
[09:03] <voicu> that's the thing, i don't want to use cd /path
[09:03] <voicu> it's a python script
[09:03] <voicu> and i have to make python start in a specific directory
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: it does a bit, although the author comments he wrote it from scratch
[09:03] <Jucato>  /path/to/executable/script.py ?
[09:04] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: I could believe him since it's only a few days ago that Novell announced that they will "open" YaST
[09:04] <voicu> yes, but the script will see the current directory. i want it to see the one it resides in
[09:05] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: although "written from scratch" doesn't mean that he also thought of the UI from scratch :)
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: well Sax could be said to be a bit of a ripoff of the kcontrol layout
[09:06] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hm... actually... not really... but... hm.. :)
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: first time I used YaST 2 I wasnt really surprised the layout was pretty standard
[09:07] <Jucato> it is? I find it very different from kcontrol actually
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im just saying the two window layout is nothing new
[09:08] <BongoBill> Hiya. If this is the support channel, I believe I have one for you. Another twist on the nvidia resolution problem that seems so popular lately.
[09:08] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ah yes. but what I was saying is that his layout is exactly like SaX's :)
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah and Im saying SaX isnt really new either, Ive seen similar layouts in the early 90's
[09:10] <Jucato> oh well :)
[09:11] <Jucato> ugh ryanakca's doing again
[09:11] <BongoBill> I've installed the nvidia binary drivers, and convinced it that my monitor's resolution is not really 1024x768@43Hz (which is what it set it to initially).
[09:11] <BongoBill> The login screen's resolution is what I want it to be; however, when I log in, the resolution and refresh rate revert to the lower values, and I have to run nvidia-settings again to fix them.
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: Im compiling it, I want to see if it has a nice mouse config option
[09:12] <BongoBill> I've even ran nvidia-settings with sudo to tell it to write the changes to xorg.conf, but to no avail.
[09:12] <BongoBill> Is this, by chance, an issue that has been encountered?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: I manually edited my settings, the refresh changes for me but the resolution stays the same
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: what are you running
[09:14] <BongoBill> Kubuntu Feisty.
[09:14] <BongoBill> nvidia binary drivers.
[09:15] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: the drivers shouldnt really matter in this case
[09:15] <wolferine> can I remove/reinstall Apache, without touching php and mysql?
[09:15] <wolferine> and have no issues, of course...
[09:16] <BongoBill> Yeah, but I figured it'd be safer to err on the side of giving more information. Additionally, my current xorg.conf was generated by nvidia-xconfig, which as far as I know might matter.
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: so you ran the sudo dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    thing ?
[09:16] <BongoBill> Yes, but once more couldn't hurt. One moment.
[09:16] <wolferine> BongoBill, what are you trying to do?
[09:17] <BongoBill> My resolution changes when I log in. I'm trying to get it to remember my settings.
[09:17] <wolferine> want some help?
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: the nvidia-xconfig  changes 2-3 lines from memory and doesnt touch the resolution settings
[09:17] <wolferine> or just gonna try zserver-xorg?
[09:17] <wolferine> xserver*
[09:17] <BongoBill> I'll give that one a try and see how it goes.
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> BongoBill: thats pretty much rebuild the whole xorg.conf  file for you
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> rebuilds*
[09:19] <anspot> Hallo
[09:19] <BongoBill> Thanks for your help; I will be back in a minute to report on whether it worked, and thank you or continue to bother you as appropriate.
[09:23] <BongoBill> I'm back, and it's still setting my resolution back to 1024x@43Hz.
[09:23] <BongoBill> Even after dpkg-reconfiguring xserver-xorg.
[09:24] <wolferine> BongoBill, list to me
[09:24] <wolferine> listen*
[09:24] <wolferine> what are u running, feisty?
[09:24] <BongoBill> Yes.
[09:24] <wolferine> did you get the last drivers?
[09:24] <wolferine> latest*
[09:24] <BongoBill> Just tonight.
[09:24] <wolferine> how did you install them?
[09:24] <wolferine> from the nvidia site?
[09:25] <BongoBill> I switched to a gnome session and ran the Restricted Drivers tool.
[09:25] <BongoBill> Selected the Nvidia drivers, and rebooted.
[09:25] <wolferine> read the ubuntu guide (google it) for installing the latest drivers
[09:25] <wolferine> then come back, and ill help you set it up
[09:25] <BongoBill> Have it open right here, in fact.
[09:25] <BongoBill> It's what I've been referring to....
[09:25] <wolferine> good
[09:26] <wolferine> its really helpful, in my opinion
[09:27] <BongoBill> Aha. Skipped a step. Let me just take care of that...
[09:30] <BongoBill> Thanks for your help, wolferine and Linux_Galore. I'm gonna try this again.
[09:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I see what the name of my laptop monitor is, and how can I look for (in google) what resolutions and refresh rates it supports?
[09:31] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, u mean your graphics card?
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti_: eeer, its written on it, usually on the rear
[09:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> im on a laptop, and sure, the graphics card- but I have a widescreen monitor so I'm sure that has something to do with the resolutions I can use
[09:33] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, you have two monitors then
[09:33] <wolferine> or you just using one or the other?
[09:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- I'm on a laptop.
[09:34] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, I think you stated that already, so can you just answer the question?
[09:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> no I don't have two monitors
[09:34] <fildo> !tvtuner
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <BongoBill> Well. If the nvidia drivers weren't installed before, they are now. Still, the specific issue is no closer to a resolution.
[09:35] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, your graphics card is something you need to configure to setup your resolutions, which is what I beleive you want to do
[09:36] <wolferine> BongoBill, ok, drivers are installed, thats a good start
[09:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine ok, so how do I see what graphics card I'm using
[09:36] <wolferine> now, BongoBill you want to use sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:36] <wolferine> once that is complete, you want to use sudo nvidia-settings
[09:37] <icecruncher> how do you change java versions? i have 4 and 6 installed
[09:37] <wolferine> BongoBill, fool around with the settings in there, then ask if you have a question
[09:37] <jussi01> hmmm, are there plugins for konqueror like firefox has?
[09:37] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, you would neeed to look up your laptop online
[09:37] <Jucato> jussi01: what plugins? if you mean Firefox extensions, then the answer is no
[09:37] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, and see what type of hardware is added to it
[09:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- maybe there is a command I can type in the terminal that tells me the name of all the hardware I'm using?
[09:37] <Jucato> (although Konqueror has a few extensions of its own)
[09:37] <jussi01> Jucato: nah, just similar stuff...
[09:37] <BongoBill> I've done this before, but once more couldn't hurt. wolferine, should I hit the button to save this to xorg.conf?
[09:38] <jussi01> Jucato: where can i find konqueror extentions?
[09:38] <wolferine> BongoBill, once you have it setup the way you like, you want to view the xorg.conf
[09:38] <wolferine> BongoBill, you might want to backup your xorg.conf as well
[09:38] <BongoBill> Yes, it's backed up.
[09:38] <Jucato> jussi01: Firefox distinguishes between plugins and extensions. Plugins refer to the mini-apps that allow you to run multimedia (flash, java, etc.) Konqi has those too
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: I think they're already installed by default. konq-plugins is the package, and they are in Settings -> COnfigure Extensions
[09:39] <icecruncher> anyone, how to change the active java version
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: different Extensions will only show depending if you are browsing a web page or a directory
[09:39] <wolferine> BongoBill, once you have the settings setup, if you dont trust the nvidia-settings, you could always copy/paste the xorg.conf produced (by nvidia-settings) manually
[09:39] <jussi01> Jucato: Im after things like firegpg and stuff
[09:39] <BongoBill> wolferine: what am I looking for in xorg.conf?
[09:39] <Jucato> jussi01: ah.. no I don't think so. unless there's a KDE app that would provide that functionality in Konqueror
[09:40] <wolferine> just to ensure its correct, look at it once, then ctrl-alt-backspace (that closes X, so you will have to log back in, hopefully with the new changes)
[09:40] <Jucato> (for example KGet, the KDE Download Manager can be integrated into Konqueror)
[09:40] <wolferine> BongoBill, you arent looking for anything, you want to make sure the xorg.conf on your system, matches that in the nvidia-settings
[09:40] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, find it?
[09:40] <BongoBill> And it does. I'll return shortly.
[09:41] <fildo> !nvidia
[09:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah, it's lspci
[09:41] <BongoBill> Once again, wolferine (And I appreciate your patience), it's set the resolution back down from where I set it in nvidia-settings.
[09:44] <wolferine> BongoBill, what did you do?
[09:44] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti_, what is lspci?
[09:44] <BongoBill> I confirmed that xorg.conf reflected my changes in nvidia-settings, and then I restarted X with a ctrl-alt-bksp, and then I logged in again.
[09:45] <wolferine> BongoBill, and you setup some "good" res within the nvidia-settings?
[09:45] <BongoBill> Yes.
[09:45] <wolferine> post your xorg.conf (current) on pastebin pls
[09:45] <wolferine> !pastebin | BongoBill
[09:45] <ubotu> BongoBill: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <BongoBill> That's handy, just a moment.
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine- what I wanted. The command to get info for all your devices. I know how to fix my problem, I just wanted to know what that command was
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> wolferine ^
[09:47] <wolferine> you can fix it yourself, cool :)
[09:47] <BongoBill> wolferine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18058/ would be it
[09:48] <wolferine> BongoBill, what res are you expecting?
[09:48] <BongoBill> 1280x1024 at, I believe 50Hz.
[09:48] <wolferine> u have duals
[09:48] <BongoBill> Rather than 1024x768 at 43Hz interlaced.
[09:48] <BongoBill> No, just the one monitor.
[09:49] <chienta_mutz> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:49] <wolferine> well, you video card can handle it
[09:49] <wolferine> can your monitor?
[09:49] <BongoBill> Yes. It's displayed it in the past.
[09:50] <BongoBill> That's how I set it in nvidia-settings, and it maintained that quite comfortably, until I ended the X session.
[09:50] <wolferine> did you select the advanced in the nvidia-settings?
[09:50] <luca> good day
[09:50] <wolferine> did you do sudo nvidia-settings ?
[09:50] <BongoBill> I didn't go into the advanced settings, but I did sudo.
[09:50] <wolferine> hmmm
[09:51] <wolferine> restricted drivers set?
[09:51] <luca> can someone help me in solving a standy problem which only appears using KDE (not GNOME)?
[09:51] <BongoBill> Yes. nvidia-glx. Not legacy, not new, as I did my homework as to which drivers suppored my graphics card. (Or is it that the cards support the drivers?)
[09:52] <wolferine> u have more than one choice in the restricted drivers?
[09:53] <BongoBill> Not as such; I had been looking into installing them manually before I found the Restricted Drivers program, and noticed that there were three binary nvidia drivers (one of which applied to me). In the Restricted Drivers program itself, though, there was just the one.
[09:54] <wolferine> please, yes or no
[09:54] <BongoBill> No.
[09:54] <wolferine> ok, so you have the restricted driver set?
[09:54] <BongoBill> I do.
[09:54] <wolferine> ok
[09:54] <wolferine> can you take screen shots?
[09:54] <BongoBill> Of...?
[09:55] <wolferine> yes or no
[09:55] <amorphous_> well.... i not used K for years, and now I'm giving it another go - 's pretty good, eh!!!
[09:55] <amorphous_> ;D
[09:55] <wolferine> prtscn usually does it
[09:55] <BongoBill> Yes, I can.
[09:55] <amorphous_> all hail to the K team!
[09:55] <wolferine> k, so do this
[09:55] <BongoBill> Just had to make sure I could paste them anywhere.
[09:55] <wolferine> sudo nvidia-settings
[09:55] <luca> anyone who can help me?
[09:56] <BongoBill> done
[09:56] <wolferine> in the server settings, go to X Server Display Config
[09:56] <wolferine> Click on the Advanced button
[09:56] <amorphous_> however.... that's not why I came in here! anyone know anything of using ssh (or should I be in another channel for that?)
[09:56] <wolferine> under metamode press the 1
[09:56] <amorphous_> luca - with ..?
[09:56] <wolferine> once it comes up, take a screenshot of that
[09:57] <wolferine> with the correct res you would like
[09:57] <luca> amorphous: on my dell inspiron standby works with GNOME only, not KDE
[09:57] <wolferine> then add it to http://imageshack.us/ so I can view it (save it as a .jpg before you upload it)
[09:57] <luca> no idea about why
[09:58] <wolferine> amorphous_, what about ssh, I dont see a question
[09:58] <aaron_> luca, is there a tool to enable it in kde?
[09:59] <luca> aaron: I just installed kubuntu and tried to use the suspend button - onbviously I am running a ubuntu/kubuntu system :)
[09:59] <BongoBill> Right, just a moment.
[09:59] <luca> it functions flawlessly with gdm, resumes to black screen with kdm
[09:59] <amorphous_> wolferine: sorry - I want to use automated scripts to copy files to seperate machines, but want to be secure (passphrase) - i cant seem to find out how to automate it with a passphrase... :/
[09:59] <wolferine> BongoBill, when ever your ready
[10:00] <aaron_> luca: yeah, I'm just running in a virtual machine, and don't really have a way to test... but speculating shoul dhelp keep your conversation open ;)
[10:00] <wolferine> amorphous_, copy files, what about nfs, samba, etc?
[10:00] <BongoBill> wolferine, http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2447/nvidiaxserversettingslp0.jpg
[10:00] <aaron_> luca: take a look in the control panel...
[10:00] <luca> ok :) obviously it's a KDE configuration problem, as GNOME functions - problem is I do not have any error output
[10:01] <amorphous_> wolferine: the files are in other locations... I'm setting up machines in different parts of the city. they are to back up to each other...
[10:01] <wolferine> BongoBill, i needed to view the Metamode
[10:01] <wolferine> what is it, under the 1 - ...
[10:01] <wolferine> the first res
[10:01] <BongoBill> 1280x1024 +0 +0
[10:02] <wolferine> Configuration (if you have it) ?
[10:02] <BongoBill> It was originally set to metamode 13, which, by a startling coincidence, is exactly the resolution it kept reverting to! Imagine that.
[10:02] <luca> aaron : where should I look?
[10:02] <luca> in kcontrol I mean
[10:02] <BongoBill> Configuration. Right. Of what, specifically? The nvidia configuration, or xorg?
[10:02] <amorphous_> luca - not too sure about that, sorry - hang on...
[10:03] <wolferine> there is a Configuration (maybe) set in the Nvidia X Server Settings (the same app yu took the screen shto from)
[10:03] <amorphous_> luca - I dont seem to have a standby on my logout menu... that what you mean?
[10:03] <luca> amorphous - ok thanks :)
[10:03] <wolferine> dang keyboard :/
[10:03] <luca> amorphous : no idea of which entry I should look at, yeah :-/
[10:03] <luca> no wait
[10:04] <luca> I have a standby button
[10:04] <BongoBill> I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Do you want me to take a screenshot of the metamode list?
[10:04] <luca> problem is it resumes to black screen
[10:04] <luca> and I am forced to rebbot
[10:04] <wolferine> BongoBill, how many MetaModes are in there?
[10:04] <wolferine> just 1?
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> things to come with Beryl -> http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/56770-3.jpg
[10:04] <BongoBill> Fifty-two.
[10:04] <amorphous_> luca - is suspend the same thing?
[10:05] <BongoBill> When I opened it for the first time, the thirteenth was selected.
[10:05] <wolferine> BongoBill, why so many?
[10:05] <luca> yes
[10:05] <BongoBill> Beats me.
[10:05] <luca> suspend to ram
[10:05] <wolferine> BongoBill, can you delete all but 1
[10:05] <BongoBill> I'll give it a try.
[10:05] <wolferine> k
[10:06] <jujimufu> heya guys
[10:06] <BongoBill> wolferine, it's now just the one.
[10:06] <wolferine> then view your xorg.conf (the one generated by nvidia-settings) and see if it matches your xorg.conf (the system is currently using)
[10:07] <wolferine> BongoBill, if you didnt notice, your screen shot is covering up part of the X Server Settings... so the reason i asked that question before was, I could not see it
[10:07] <BongoBill> Ah. I'll just check real quick....
[10:07] <wolferine> BongoBill, do you think you might be able to take a better screen shot, but opening the window a bit more?
[10:07] <wolferine> as appose to hiding some info....
[10:08] <ryks> salut voicu!!!!!!!!!!
[10:08] <wolferine> and if you clcik on the 1 in MetaMode, then take the screenshot, then I can ACTUALLY see what it is
[10:08] <ryks> am nevoie de ajutor
[10:08] <wolferine> rather than have to ask you..
[10:08] <ryks> ro?
[10:08] <icecruncher> !fr > ryks
[10:08] <wolferine> ice | instead of >
[10:08] <ryks> aha
[10:09] <wolferine> bonjour ryks
[10:09] <ryks> this name is usual in ro
[10:09] <ryks> :)
[10:09] <wolferine> ah
[10:09] <BongoBill> wolferine, line 66        Option "Metamodes"     now contains only one screen resolution (1280x1024), as opposed to several which it had previously.
[10:09] <ryks> ola
[10:09] <ryks> salut
[10:09] <wolferine> BongoBill, that will probably help
[10:09] <wolferine> salut
[10:09] <wolferine> :)
[10:09] <ryks> need a little help
[10:09] <wolferine> ryks, ask away
[10:10] <icecruncher> with?
[10:10] <ryks> so i have kubunto on my comp
[10:10] <ryks> kubuntu
[10:10] <wolferine> ryks please just make it a one line question...
[10:10] <ryks> i am new in linux
[10:10] <wolferine> ;)
[10:10] <wolferine> still no question...
[10:10] <jujimufu> lol :P
[10:11] <jujimufu> so guys, which one's better, Beryl or compiz?
[10:11] <wolferine> beryl
[10:11] <ryks> need to view a movie but i don t have a good player
[10:11] <wolferine> ryks, vlc
[10:11] <BongoBill> wolferine, I will be back in just a moment. Thanks for your help.
[10:11] <wolferine> np
[10:11] <ryks> how can i install a player in kubuntu?
[10:11] <icecruncher> sudo aptitude install vlc
[10:11] <wolferine> ryks, use the ubuntu guide (google it)
[10:12] <wolferine> it explains everything to setup your system
[10:12] <wolferine> wow, its late
[10:12] <ryks> i am out on install stuff in linux(new)
[10:12] <ryks> a link please
[10:12] <blekos> so u know any program for disk cataloging
[10:12] <wolferine> ryks, im sure you know how to google
[10:12] <blekos> *do
[10:12] <jujimufu> rysk: just go to google.com, and search for "kubuntu install guide"
[10:13] <wolferine> just ubuntu guide
[10:13] <wolferine> like I said
[10:13] <ryks> thz
[10:13] <ryks> too kind
[10:13] <jujimufu> ryks: we're not here to feed you, we're here to teach you how to eat yourself :P
[10:13] <ryks> hehe k
[10:14] <blekos> do u know any program for disk cataloging?
[10:14] <ryks> i am just trying to instal with adept but too many errors i have
[10:14] <jujimufu> ryks: what about ubuntuguide.org?
[10:14] <icecruncher> how much do you guys think that the ubuntu comunity has grown sice the release or feisty
[10:15] <jujimufu> ryks: are you logged in as root?
[10:15] <wolferine> ryks, read the guide
[10:15] <jujimufu> you mean, in the last two days?
[10:15] <wolferine> anyone know how to setup Thunderbird to check a hotmail account (what are the incoming servers, etc..) ?
[10:16] <ryks> yes and i have a player called cofeine but nedd codecs
[10:16] <icecruncher> wolferine: does hotmail support pop?
[10:16] <ryks> don t run dvix stuff and xvid
[10:16] <jujimufu> ryks: check EasyUbuntu and automatix, if you want lots of stuff automatically installed on your bx
[10:16] <jujimufu> *box
[10:16] <Jucato> !automatix
[10:16] <jujimufu> icecruncher: probably not. But gmail does.
[10:16] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:16] <wolferine> icecruncher, so it might not be possible
[10:17] <icecruncher> yep
[10:17] <Jucato> ryks: just install libxine-extracodecs and you're good to go
[10:17] <wolferine> yep, it might not, or yep, it should
[10:17] <ryks> are the same platforms ubuntu vs kubuntu?
[10:17] <wolferine> :)
[10:17] <jujimufu> !easyubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:17] <wolferine> ryks READ
[10:17] <wolferine> last time I am telling you
[10:17] <ryks> ths
[10:17] <wolferine> np
[10:17] <jujimufu> ryks: all of this is answered on the ubuntulinux.com homepage
[10:17] <jujimufu> and wiki
[10:17] <wolferine> and in the GUIDe
[10:18] <ryks> i am on it
[10:18] <Jucato> !mp3 | ryks
[10:18] <ryks> :)
[10:18] <ubotu> ryks: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <wolferine> !read | ryks
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <jujimufu> it's like going to channels and asking people "is google a search engine?" "do I just press enter and it searches for me?" "do I have to put keywords in it, or do I just think really hard about what I want and I press "I feel lucky"?"
[10:18] <jujimufu> lol
[10:18] <wolferine> press lucky!
[10:19] <wolferine> so jujimufu can you check a hotmail with thunderbird?
[10:19] <wolferine> account*
[10:19] <jujimufu> wolferine: I don't know. I am using thunderbird for my gmail account, though.
[10:20] <jujimufu> wolferine: I've never been a big fan of hotmail anyway :P
[10:20] <Jucato> wolferine: 1) only if hotmail provides you with a pop3 account/service or 2) use some special apps to download the emails from hotmail and then feed it into thunderbird
[10:20] <jujimufu> wolferine: from google: "MSN HotMail provides no POP3 and SMTP servers for free accounts,"
[10:20] <jujimufu> so, if you have bought an account, pop3 might be available.
[10:20] <wolferine> IMAP?
[10:20] <Jucato> there are "ways" to do it though... you'll have to Google for it
[10:20] <Jucato> something like freepops I think
[10:21] <jujimufu> wolferine: from google again: "Unfortunately, Hotmail lacks POP or IMAP "
[10:21] <Jucato> !info freepops
[10:21] <ubotu> freepops: POP3 interface to several webmails. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.99-1+patches20061018 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 1252 kB
[10:21] <wolferine> if I wanted google, I would have done it myself :P
[10:21] <Jucato> well, at least now you know what to google for :P
[10:21] <Jucato> google for thunderbird, hotmail, and freepops
[10:21] <jujimufu> wolferine: then don't tell ryks to google, when you don't :P
[10:22] <Jucato> play nice people :)
[10:22] <jujimufu> wolfering: check this: "The WebMail extension for Thunderbird enables access to Yahoo, Hotmail, Lycos"
[10:22] <jujimufu> maybe check that out?
[10:27] <BongoBill> wolferine, I'm sorry to report that it, plus a few other creative ideas related to those metamodes, had no effect.
[10:28] <wolferine> Bongo you can always manually edit your xorg.conf
[10:28] <BongoBill> Looks like I'll have to. Thank you anyway.
[10:28] <wolferine> np
[10:29] <Alarm> goodmorning , i got a problem with my resolution on feisty. no matter if i choose 85hz from the nvidia setting tool., on the next reboot the monitor turns always to 75hz (even if i save it from the tool to the xorg file). on the monitor and display tool from of fiesty i dont got 85hz to chose, just 95, and then some others with 60,54 and so on what can i do ?
[10:29] <BongoBill> No way, I was just dealing with the same problem.
[10:29] <BongoBill> Found no resolution, unfortunately, but there's hope yet!
[10:29] <wolferine> there ya go Alarm
[10:29] <Alarm> there i go what ?
[10:30] <BongoBill> Spoke too soon, wolferine. I don't have an answer for you, Alarm, I just mean that you and I have solidarity.
[10:30] <BongoBill> I'm trying something, though. Might work.
[10:31] <wolferine> im sure you two can work together and get it to work
[10:31] <BongoBill> Have to restart X; just a moment.
[10:31] <Alarm> i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[10:31] <Alarm> but i cant understand much
[10:31] <BongoBill> Blast. Nothing.
[10:32] <BongoBill> Perhaps the answer lies in #nvidia, or someone with experience with this issue is hanging out in #ubuntu.
[10:32] <wolferine> BongoBill, use #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <BongoBill> I shal.
[10:33] <BongoBill> l.
[10:33] <Alarm> weird. many people seem to have that problem
[10:33] <Alarm> anyway. in the modelines i see the resolution that i want
[10:34] <Alarm> can i reconfigure xorg just for the resolution and not keyboard and all that stuff that normally i am asked ?
[10:35] <jujimufu> Alarm: yes, but you'd have to edit xorg.conf
[10:35] <Alarm> wish i knew what i need to change...
[10:35] <jujimufu> yeah
[10:35] <insmod> Alarm: yes
[10:35] <jujimufu> so, better do the xorgconf from the beginning
[10:35] <Alarm> and how ?
[10:36] <jujimufu> although I don't think that when you start it again it loses all configurations.
[10:36] <Alarm> i know
[10:36] <insmod> Alarm: add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <Alarm> thats why i asked about the specific configuration
[10:36] <Alarm> insmod,  i know which file it is .
[10:36] <Alarm> i cant figure out all the settings with the refresh rate of the monitor
[10:36] <insmod> Alarm: ?
[10:37] <Alarm> yes
[10:37] <wolferine> anyone use Webmail for Thunderbird, I cannot setup an account for my hotmail
[10:37] <jujimufu> wolferine: maybe check out the site's manual?
[10:37] <insmod> Alarm: so your monitor was not detected ?
[10:37] <wolferine> jujimufu, once again, your just not doing it for me
[10:37] <Alarm> insmod,  my monitor was detected
[10:37] <jujimufu> wolferine, once again, you're not doing what you tell other people to do :P
[10:38] <insmod> Alarm: just add the hz vf
[10:38] <Alarm> i quote:  i got a problem with my resolution on feisty. no matter if i choose 85hz from the nvidia setting tool., on the next reboot the monitor turns always to 75hz (even if i save it from the tool to the xorg file). on the monitor and display tool from of fiesty i dont got 85hz to chose, just 95, and then some others with 60,54 and so on what can i do ?
[10:38] <insmod> Alarm: then
[10:38] <Alarm> insmod, if you think i would understand which setting that is , i would be here asking ?
[10:38] <wolferine> jujimufu, i only do what I choose, not what some other person thinks I should do
[10:38] <wolferine> jujimufu, im gonna have to add you to ignore
[10:39] <jujimufu> oi, that's tough...
[10:39] <jujimufu> it's pity you won't see what I type, I am usually a pretty funny guy. Well, at least when I say that, other people laugh...
[10:39] <bonaldo2000> Can anyone tell me what they think is the best ftp-program for kubuntu?
[10:40] <jujimufu> anyway, it's not my fault if you're too lazy yourself. You just went on bashing ryks for not using google of the kubuntu docs, and there you are, asking us about stuff you can find on the net.
[10:40] <insmod> Alarm: sudo and fix the xorg -- you can't fix it via gui because the sudo can not do that with the prog -- just edit via sudo mc vi etc
[10:40] <insmod> easy
[10:40] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, client or server?
[10:40] <jujimufu> I prefer nano
[10:40] <Alarm> insmod,  if its easy to tell me something else of what i am doing at the moment ,do so instead of pretenting the smart one
[10:40] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: client...sorry
[10:41] <insmod> jujimufu: mc is better lol
[10:41] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, coming from winblows, I like filezilla
[10:41] <ryks> ???
[10:41] <ryks> don t understand
[10:41] <ryks> explain
[10:41] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, you can alway search for FTP in the package manager, and see if you find others, and give them a try
[10:41] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: ok, I use that also, but I think its bad in kubuntu compared to the windows version, seems incomplete somehow
[10:41] <jujimufu> insmod: I prefer simple stuff :D
[10:41] <insmod> Alarm: edit xorg
[10:41] <ryks> aha
[10:41] <ryks> yap
[10:42] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, so you want alot of bells and whistles by the sounds of it
[10:42] <ryks> miising alot of stuff here in this pakage
[10:42] <Alarm> insmod,  thats what i am doing the last hour, i didnt wait for that kind of answer
[10:42] <jujimufu> rkys: who are you talking to? lol :P
[10:42] <jujimufu> Alarm: ok. Can you post your xorg.conf on pastebin or something?
[10:42] <Alarm> sure
[10:42] <jujimufu> Alarm: and tell me what you want to change your resolution to.
[10:42] <wolferine> ryks, i realize your new, but typing all your thoughts into the channel isnt geting you anywhere, and you never really ever ask a question
[10:43] <insmod> Alarm: what the hell man xorg
[10:43] <wolferine> ryks, you might want to work on your approach...
[10:43] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: not really, but filezilla in kubuntu just has a rather ugly UI and small things annoy me, like it doesnt remember the dir I was in (on my own computer) when I start it up...it does this in windows.....stuff like that
[10:43] <Alarm> jujimufu,  http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3327
[10:43] <insmod> Alarm: i can help but i can't do it for you -- learn yourself
[10:43] <ryks> in this matter really don t help me guys
[10:43] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, edit the config file for the program?
[10:43] <ryks> i just trying but
[10:44] <Alarm> i want to put on 1024x768 on 85hz
[10:44] <wolferine> ryks, like I said, not one question yet
[10:44] <wolferine> ryks, its all in the ubuntu guide, you might want to take a bit more time and read it over, since its only been about 10-20 mins
[10:44] <Alarm> even on my nvidia setting tool, i think things are messed up. cause i see 3-4 times the same resolution listed
[10:44] <bonaldo2000> wolferine: could try to play with that. But just wanted to hear if there was some program that people use, you know some brialliant ftp client or something...
[10:45] <ryks> have on my desktop a arhive called xine-ui-0.99.4.tar
[10:45] <ryks> right?
[10:45] <wolferine> bonaldo2000, alot of FTP clients are great, but you just have to look for it
[10:45] <wolferine> ryks, read the guide
[10:45] <insmod> ryks: untar it
[10:45] <insmod> ryks: man tar
[10:45] <wolferine> insmod, good luck
[10:45] <ryks> so how can i install on my computer
[10:45] <wolferine> ryks its in the guide
[10:46] <wolferine> sudo aptitude get xine
[10:46] <voicu> ok, so i'm running feisty with all the updates and ktorrent seems to crash when it's in the tray and the monitor goes into standby. anyone else with this problem? also, how can i stop the standby from happening? at least as a short term solution
[10:46] <insmod> ryks: man tar
[10:46] <ryks> i am out -thz
[10:46] <wolferine> i mean, aptitude install xine
[10:46] <insmod> EXAMPLES
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -xvvf foo.tar
[10:46] <insmod>               extract foo.tar
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz
[10:46] <insmod>               extract gzipped foo.tar.gz
[10:46] <insmod>        tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/
[10:46] <insmod>               tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[10:46] <ryks> doesn t work guys like that
[10:46] <wolferine> !pastebin | insmod
[10:46] <ubotu> insmod: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <ryks> is just an arhive
[10:47] <jujimufu> Alarm: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[10:47] <insmod> ryks: ?
[10:47] <Alarm> jujimufu,  thats what i have allready open :)
[10:48] <ryks> nedd to install not to unpaked
[10:48] <ryks> :)
[10:48] <Alarm> let me restart x
[10:48] <insmod> ryks: yes it is
[10:48] <jujimufu> Alarm: lol, ok :P
[10:49] <insmod> ryks: unpake it then install or use fakeroot
[10:50] <ryks> aha
[10:50] <jujimufu> Alarm: what resolution do you have right now?
[10:50] <ryks> firts true respond
[10:50] <ryks> first
[10:50] <insmod> ryks: there ya go
[10:51] <ryks> so what is a fakeroot?
[10:51] <insmod> ryks: debian creats the deb file so you can dkpg it
[10:52] <ryks> just open the console ?
[10:52] <ryks> and type make instal.....
[10:52] <insmod> ryks: why not just untar and compile it it would be faster
[10:52] <wolferine> or u could just get the package, since it is already setup for you
[10:52] <wolferine> but that would be too easy
[10:53] <ryks> yap but new in buisness
[10:53] <insmod> ryks: no that is only after untared
[10:53] <purpleposeidon> I'm on fiesty; how do I make ctrl-alt-del halt instead of restart?
[10:53] <insmod> tar -xvvf foo.tar then do that
[10:54] <ryks> aha
[10:54] <wolferine> anyone use Webmail for Thunderbird, I cannot setup an account for my hotmail
[10:54] <insmod> purpleposeidon: edit inittab
[10:55] <purpleposeidon> whereis inittab?
[10:55] <ryks> must  read the ubuntu guide -thz for support guys :)
[10:56] <insmod> cat /etc/inittab
[10:57] <purpleposeidon> no such file or directory
[10:57] <insmod> purpleposeidon: i am on debian lol
[10:58] <insmod> purpleposeidon: know idea waht you call it
[10:59] <purpleposeidon> upstart, something... :/
[10:59] <purpleposeidon> ah I found it
[10:59] <insmod> purpleposeidon: is it on kubuntu?
[10:59] <purpleposeidon>  /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete
[11:00] <insmod> purpleposeidon: lil init.d is easier
[11:01] <fildo_> !tvtuner
[11:01] <icecruncher> 
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <fildo_> !tuner
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Alarm> i still have the same problem with the refresh rate. i reconfigured xorg. what i find strange is that the splash screen is in the proper resolution and refresh rate but when loggin in it changes
[11:06] <Alarm> in the modelines i see the resolution that i want 1024x768_85 hz , but not in the list of the tools to choose it
[11:07] <pafnutiy> hi all! i'm new in ubuntu, i want to ask question about gnome. why my media players (totem, for ex.) don't play videos from LAN? thanks.
[11:09] <LazyIdiot> Hi all
[11:10] <LazyIdiot> Anyone there ??
[11:10] <Aattila> hi! i can't run amarok. it says updating database and then this window disappears and happens nothing. can anybody help me?
[11:10] <LazyIdiot> Its one of my probs too :s
[11:13] <pingveno> I'm trying to write a script that puts my laptop into sleep mode at the end of the script, but I can't find the necessary command.
[11:13] <pingveno> by sleep I mean suspend
[11:17] <_4strO> pingveno: shutdown, halt ?
[11:17] <pingveno> Don't those just bring the computer down?
[11:17] <pingveno> I mean, restart/shutdown?
[11:18] <LazyIdiot> shutdown now .. would help
[11:18] <renato> hi, I have installed the ati-drivers (I'm on feisty) and I wanted to set up a big desktop. X starts as a big desktop but it reverses to a "clone" after I login. I have seen in a forum to go to the control panel and set the resolution there, but when I do that X crashes. is there a config file I can edit manually?
[11:19] <ryks> back
[11:19] <_4strO> renato: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:19] <squall9900> ih how do i extract rar files
[11:19] <_4strO> squall9900: with ark
[11:19] <LazyIdiot> I've installed xmms using apt-get, but, I can't see any TEXT on menu. Can any one help me out.
[11:19] <Alarm> sorry i cant figure out anymore.  i still cant set my monitor on 1024x768@85 hz. the splash screen is on the resolution i want. but when i log on , it goes always on 75hz
[11:19] <Jucato> squall9900: install the package "unrar" and you can use Ark to extract them
[11:20] <Alarm> no matter if i choose again and again from the nvidia tool or from the monitor tool of kubuntu 85hz
[11:20] <squall9900> thanks
[11:20] <renato> _4strO in there I already have the setup for the big desktop but, it gets reverted back to cloen mode when I login
[11:20] <Alarm> no matter if i confidured xorg.conf
[11:20] <Alarm> can someone help me
[11:20] <Jucato> hm... that seems to be a recurring problem lately...
[11:20] <_4strO> renato: what did you mean by "big desktop" ?
[11:21] <renato> I have two monitors and I wanted to use them both, one option is the so called "big desktop"
[11:21] <Alarm> in the xorg i see:   modeline  "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
[11:21] <Alarm>  as also  modes "1024x768@85" "1024x768@75" "832x624@75" ....
[11:22] <renato> big desktop is when you configure one device whose virtual resolution spans across multiple monitors
[11:22] <Alarm> in the monitor tool , first i had the option of 85hz and now just some strange ones like 100,99,57,53,52 but nothing with 85
[11:22] <Alarm> just in the nvidia tool, that it exists 85, but even if i save it . again on the next restart i got it on 75hz
[11:23] <Alarm> read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 , but didnt figure out or didnt help me much
[11:23] <_4strO> Alarm: can you past your xorg.conf
[11:23] <squall9900> were do i get unrar
[11:23] <Alarm> sure
[11:23] <_4strO> paste*
[11:23] <_4strO> !unrar
[11:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:24] <nuu> hi all
[11:24] <Alarm> http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3328
[11:24] <sonoftheclayr> hi
[11:24] <Alarm> there it is
[11:24] <Alarm> what i find strange is that on the splash screen i get 1024x768@85 hz , but not when it logs in
[11:25] <Aattila> can anybody help with amarok? it updates database when i run it, but then happens nothing
[11:25] <Alarm> i adjusted the monitor many times as a maximum resolution of 1600x1200@76 or 70hz , but nothing
[11:25] <Alarm> didnt have that problem with kubuntu 6.10 at all actually
[11:26] <_4strO> Alarm: what do you want exactly ?
[11:26] <pingveno> _4strO: For the record, running dcop on power-manager is a good way to suspend/hibernate
[11:26] <Alarm> to have finally:  1024x768@85 hz
[11:26] <nuu> i'd like to submit a bug to launchpad, but i wonder which project i should pick
[11:26] <Alarm> only that :)
[11:26] <_4strO> pingveno: ok good :)
[11:26] <pingveno> In my case, dcop power-manager-5532 power-manager suspend
[11:26] <_4strO> thx
[11:26] <nuu> the problem is with my vaio laptop and AC power...whenever AC power is plugged in, kde icon animations are slower
[11:26] <nuu> whenever its plugged out, it gets faster
[11:26] <_4strO> Alarm: and actually you have ?
[11:26] <nuu> should i submit this to the main kde project bug list?
[11:26] <pingveno> Well, time to finish that script
[11:27] <Alarm> i can set that configuration through the nvidia tool. but on the next reboot i get again a configuration that i dont want. like the settings are not being saved
[11:27] <nuu> we're talking just kde animations btw, not cpu slowdown
[11:27] <Alarm> _4strO,  actually , i have all the other resolutions excepts of that
[11:27] <_4strO> lol
[11:27] <squall9900> ok plez help howdo i get unrar do i use adept
[11:28] <Alarm> now i see in my monitor setting tool of kubuntu only 100,99,57,53,52 but nothing with 85 (on1024x768)
[11:28] <guhhh> i cant load konversation, i get some errors, can someone help? i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18062/
[11:29] <_4strO> unrar | squall9900:
[11:29] <_4strO> !unrar | squall9900:
[11:29] <ubotu> squall9900:: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:29] <USMarine> my xorg.conf is fine, however kdm doesn't auto start
[11:29] <_4strO> Alarm: did you have two screen ?
[11:29] <USMarine> have you got any idea why?
[11:29] <Alarm> no
[11:29] <Alarm> i have just one
[11:30] <Alarm> _4strO,  did u see the xorg.conf i pasted ?
[11:30] <nuu> USMarine: sudo apt-get install rcconf && rcconf
[11:30] <nuu> go to "kdm", hit space bar, go to OK, hit space bar, reboot
[11:30] <USMarine> tks
[11:31] <_4strO> Alarm: yep$
[11:31] <USMarine> gonna try that
[11:31] <nuu> np
[11:31] <_4strO> Alarm: i try to understand some part of it
[11:31] <Alarm> hope u will, as i didnt :)
[11:32] <_4strO> Alarm: but by default wich resolution is used ?
[11:32] <squall9900> unrar utility
[11:32] <Alarm> _4strO,  depends on how i make my changes
[11:32] <Alarm> now i think i got something with 800x600
[11:33] <guhhh> i cant load konversation, i get some errors, can someone help? i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18062/
[11:33] <guhhh> i hate use gaim! please help :(
[11:34] <Alarm> rebooting., hold one
[11:35] <_4strO> Alarm: perhaps just try to add other depth lines
[11:36] <guhhh> damn, lol...
[11:36] <guhhh> i guess i will have to reinstall my system
[11:36] <Alarm> ok now restart x. the resolutions i get on 1024x768 are from 50 to 58hz only
[11:36] <squall9900> ok how do i install unrar on Ark
[11:37] <guhhh> !konversation
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <nuu> guhhh: from a terminal, ps awux | grep kded
[11:37] <nuu> paste output
[11:38] <guhhh> nuu nothing
[11:38] <squall9900> ubotu rar how do iin stall it
[11:38] <Alarm> now all i managed again was the splash screen to be ok . but not the resolution after logging in. i got now again 1024x768@75 and not 85 hz that i want
[11:38] <guhhh> nuu: im on debian, just to make u know
[11:39] <nuu> sudo kded
[11:39] <nuu> see if that helps
[11:39] <guhhh> but i used to run konversation, i guess that something that i installed made it dont work anymore :(
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> FATAL: DCOP communication problem!
[11:40] <guhhh> Aborted
[11:40] <guhhh> nuu:
[11:40] <guhhh> ops, sorry.
[11:40] <nuu> sudo dcopstart
[11:40] <nuu> hm
[11:40] <nuu> sec
[11:40] <_4strO> Alarm: you should remove all the modeline lines
[11:40] <guhhh> dcopstart kded ?
[11:41] <Alarm> as i said i also reconfigured xorg but nothing
[11:41] <Alarm> ok lets say i removed them. and then ?
[11:41] <nuu> sudo dcopserver
[11:41] <_4strO> (just put an # in front of them)
[11:41] <Alarm> then ?
[11:41] <guhhh> nuu: i still get the same error
[11:42] <_4strO> Alarm:
[11:42] <_4strO> Section "Monitor"
[11:42] <_4strO>         Identifier      "P95f"
[11:42] <_4strO>         Option          "DPMS"
[11:42] <_4strO> EndSection
[11:42] <_4strO> it's mine ;)
[11:42] <nuu> did it say it started ?
[11:42] <guhhh> nuu: yes, it did
[11:42] <guhhh> It looks like dcopserver is already running.
[11:42] <nuu> ps awux | grep dcopserver
[11:42] <_4strO> Alarm: and try to have other depth lines
[11:42] <guhhh> i got this message when i tried the second time :)
[11:42] <nuu> ah right
[11:43] <nuu> then sudo kded
[11:43] <nuu> again
[11:43] <_4strO> Alarm: you anly have depth 24
[11:43] <guhhh>  7930  0.0  0.2  48944  5012 ?        S    05:41   0:00 dcopserver
[11:43] <guhhh> nuu
[11:43] <guhhh> kded: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[11:43] <guhhh> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[11:44] <nuu> what did you install recently ?
[11:45] <guhhh> well, a lot of things, cant remember
[11:45] <guhhh> :(
[11:46] <_4strO> guhhh: are you root when you try to launch konversation ?
[11:46] <guhhh> yes
[11:46] <_4strO> thqt's the reason why ...
[11:47] <guhhh> lol, i see
[11:47] <nuu> hah
[11:47] <guhhh> i will relog then
[11:48] <guhhh> same problem...
[11:48] <_4strO> mmm
[11:49] <_4strO> launch konversation in a console and paste the entire error message plz
[11:50] <guhhh> ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:50] <ricky_ds> Hi all. I just had a voice chat over windows with a friend using yahoo messenger. I was wondering if such a thing is also possible over kubuntu. I'm currently using kopete, but if it doesn't support voice chat, I'm open for anything else. What are the options?
[11:50] <guhhh> _4strO: thats it ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:50] <_4strO> guhhh: ok
[11:51] <guhhh> _4strO:  now that ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[11:51] <guhhh> ERROR: Communication problem with konversation, it probably crashed.
[11:51] <guhhh> tried to reinstall... useless
[11:54] <_4strO> guhhh: sure you dont execute it in root ?
[11:54] <guhhh> no, im not as root :(
[11:56] <blekos> do u have any disk catalog tool 2 suggest?
[11:57] <guhhh> _4strO: well, my echo $USER says root, but im not as root, shouldnt be. id log with my own account :(
[11:59] <_4strO> guhhh: try tu 'su youruserAccount'
[11:59] <_4strO> then launch konversation
[11:59] <oem_> Hallo zusammen wie kann ich als oem angemeldet fr den pfad /usr/local/bin die rechte 755 einstellen?
[11:59] <_4strO> !de | oem_
[11:59] <ubotu> oem_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:59] <USMarine> guhhh use kopete
[12:00] <USMarine> !de | oem_
[12:00] <_4strO> bl
[12:00] <_4strO> blekos: disk catalog ?
[12:00] <_4strO> ho i see :p
[12:01] <blekos> disk cataloging
[12:01] <guhhh> _4strO: okay, now i got another error, lol
[12:02] <blekos> i have about 100cds/dvds and need to know their index, so i'm looking 4 a software like broken cross
[12:02] <guhhh> !pastebin
[12:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <guhhh> _4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18065/
[12:03] <_4strO> ok
[12:04] <_4strO> blekos: try to finf one in adept (seach catalog or something like thios)
[12:05] <jlilly> slight problem. My sound is being a bit wonky.
[12:05] <jlilly> I just restarted and it plays in one ear of my headphones. I went to adjust the volume in kmix, and the volume went dead
[12:05] <_4strO> guhhh: weird all this
[12:05] <blekos> ok thnx
[12:06] <_4strO> blekos: sorry i dont use catalog, for my mp3, amarok works fine
[12:06] <blekos> :)
[12:06] <_4strO> but have all them in my HD
[12:07] <guhhh> _4strO: really!
[12:07] <blekos> my HD is out 2days now... so until i buy a new one..
[12:07] <guhhh> its really annoying :-(
[12:08] <_4strO> guhhh: why have you open a root session !
[12:08] <_4strO> :p
[12:08] <guhhh> i didnt
[12:08] <guhhh> i forgot that my terminal is open as root
[12:08] <guhhh> :P
[12:08] <_4strO> ha ok
[12:08] <guhhh> because its debian :D
[12:09] <kinp> I have a major problem.
[12:09] <deviance> !avi
[12:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <guhhh> so do i :(
[12:09] <fildo> !samba
[12:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:10] <deviance> What package/player can i use to get avi's working?
[12:10] <kinp> I can't connect to my wireless network,
[12:10] <xiantia> hi all
[12:10] <kinp> And the logof is fucked
[12:10] <guhhh> _4strO: lol, i receive a mail from my system when that error occurs
[12:11] <kinp> hehe
[12:12] <kinp> But how do I make the network work? It says it finds my netwrok but the lights doens't flash
[12:12] <xiantia> i have some pb with new kernel 2.6.20, and wireless ipw2200. i can ping www.yahoo.fr but under kde kmail, konversation, firefox, ... not work. it work under 2.6.17 kernel
[12:12] <_4strO> guhhh: try to type 'xhost +' and then retry to open konvers
[12:13] <_4strO> !codecs | deviance
[12:13] <ubotu> deviance: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <Mena> Hi, Is there an app works Fine and fine with subtitles
[12:14] <_4strO> Mena: kaffeine, vlc, ...
[12:15] <_4strO> Mena: mplayer
[12:15] <Mena> _4strO, ok
[12:15] <Mena> Thanks :)
[12:15] <_4strO> Mena: think all application just work fine (with subs)
[12:15] <Mena> ok
[12:15] <Mena> but not english
[12:16] <_4strO> what ?
[12:16] <Mena> i mean the subs wich are not english
[12:16] <_4strO> what the diff ?
[12:16] <Mena> i have a subtitle (Arabic)
[12:17] <Mena> wich works wrong every time and wuth every player
[12:17] <Mena> with*
[12:17] <_4strO> Mena: you probably have to go to configuration to change using charset of subs
[12:17] <Mena> i did
[12:17] <deviance> It doesnt go into detauls about Avi files
[12:17] <deviance> Is there a specific plug in because Mplayer, kaffine and the rest dont work
[12:17] <_4strO> deviance: avi is just a box
[12:18] <deviance> Vlc doesnt either so it must be a plugin prob
[12:18] <deviance> A box?
[12:18] <Mena> _4strO, Thanks any way :)
[12:19] <Mena> Bye
[12:19] <_4strO> deviance: w32codecs and xinelibxine1-ffmpeg that's all you need ;)
[12:19] <_4strO> Mena: see ya
[12:19] <_4strO> deviance: avi is a container
[12:19] <_4strO> not a video format
[12:19] <deviance> Oh
[12:20] <deviance> Well its still not working
[12:20] <deviance> Ill check thoes plogins
[12:20] <deviance> plugins*
[12:20] <deviance> What video format are avi's then?
[12:21] <_4strO> mpeg4 for exemple
[12:21] <deviance> xinelibxine1 doesnt retun anything
[12:22] <_4strO> deviance: where ?
[12:22] <_4strO> in adept ?
[12:22] <deviance> Yeah
[12:22] <_4strO> and w32codecs ?
[12:23] <deviance> 1sec
[12:23] <deviance> Thats installed
[12:23] <Eruantalon> Why does many library packages have an appended zero?
[12:23] <deviance> So its just xinelibxine1
[12:24] <_4strO> libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:24] <deviance> Theres libxine1c2 but not -ffmpeg
[12:25] <deviance> adn a couple of libxine packages but none have -ffmpeg
[12:25] <_4strO> deviance: have you active the universe package ?
[12:26] <_4strO> deviance: have you active the universe repositorie  ?
[12:26] <_4strO> sorry
[12:26] <deviance> What repo is it in
[12:26] <deviance> yeah I havfe
[12:26] <deviance> Im on 6.06 lts if that helps at all
[12:26] <_4strO> haaa !
[12:26] <_4strO> lol
[12:27] <deviance> lol
[12:27] <_4strO> apt-cache madison libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:27] <_4strO> libxine1-ffmpeg | 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages
[12:27] <deviance> In terminal?
[12:28] <deviance> And does it have to be fr? or can I use GB instead.
[12:28] <_4strO> deviance: no, were just for show
[12:28] <jussi01> !info libxine1-ffmpeg dapper
[12:28] <deviance> Oh, so what do I do then?
[12:28] <ubotu> Package libxine1-ffmpeg does not exist in dapper
[12:28] <_4strO> jussi01: :)
[12:28] <deviance> Is there a replacement package arround?
[12:29] <deviance> I have got mpg videos and video streams to work before, I guess using win32codecs
[12:29] <_4strO> deviance: try to search ffmpeg
[12:30] <deviance> Okay
[12:31] <deviance> !info ffmpeg dapper
[12:31] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 3835 kB, installed size 9816 kB
[12:31] <deviance> Thats installed by the way
[12:36] <deviance> Okay, What codec is xvid in?
[12:37] <_4strO> not sure ...
[12:37] <deviance> Thats the file type
[12:37] <Maruko> hi everybody
[12:38] <deviance> !xvid
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <Maruko> I need a suggestion
[12:38] <deviance> Hi
[12:38] <Maruko> is there any progam like iWeb or Macromedia Dreamweaver for Kubuntu?
[12:38] <Maruko> or anything that can help me create a nice-looking website
[12:38] <oem_> please can you say me the german kubuntu irc
[12:38] <Maruko> (I just know a little HTML...)
[12:38] <USMarine> !de
[12:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:39] <Black_Cat> Maruko, Quanta Plus should do.
[12:39] <Maruko> Quanta Plus?=
[12:39] <USMarine> Maruko eclipse ftw
[12:39] <Maruko> is it in the repositories?
[12:39] <Black_Cat> it certainly is
[12:39] <_4strO> deviance: have this package libxine-extracodecs ?
[12:40] <_4strO> have you ?
[12:40] <deviance> installed
[12:40] <Maruko> it say Eclipse is not made for creating websites...
[12:40] <USMarine> it's good for php
[12:40] <USMarine> and php is used in sites
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> ...
[12:41] <deviance> Yeah I use Quanta for my php work, therse a nice js one, try Aptana
[12:41] <USMarine> aptana is good also yeah
[12:41] <Maruko> ok
[12:41] <Maruko> I just found Quanta-Data in my repositories
[12:41] <Maruko> is it normal?
[12:42] <USMarine> i prefer eclipse because it's more powerful
[12:42] <Black_Cat> Maruko, hold on, i'll check it
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> Lol. PHP scripting help ftl.
[12:42] <Maruko> ok thanks
[12:42] <Eruantalon> Why does many library packages have an appended zero?
[12:42] <guhhh> _4strO: how do i remove kded and reinstall?
[12:43] <_4strO> guhhh: try 'xhost +' in a console
[12:43] <deviance> I'm gopnna go mplayer a go, thats supposed to suport xvid
[12:43] <Hobbsee> Eruantalon: google for sonames, if you're interested
[12:43] <Black_Cat> Maruko, use search pattern "quanta", it's in main repo, so there must be no problem.
[12:43] <deviance> !mplayer
[12:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[12:44] <guhhh> _4strO: what now?
[12:44] <_4strO> try to open konversation
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> guhhh, don't do xhost + unless you trust him.
[12:44] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ?.??
[12:45] <Maxdamantus> It allows him to access your GUI programs from wherever.
[12:45] <Maruko> ok
[12:45] <Maruko> and what about Aptana?
[12:45] <Maruko> I cannot find it
[12:45] <Black_Cat> never heard about it, can't provide any related help, sorry.
[12:46] <guhhh> _4strO: no way
[12:46] <_4strO> :/
[12:46] <guhhh> _4strO: is there anyway to remove kded?
[12:46] <Maruko> another thing
[12:47] <Maruko> I am thinking of installing Xfce
[12:47] <Maruko> and have Xfce together with KDe
[12:47] <_4strO> guhhh: i dont know
[12:47] <Maruko> how can I do?
[12:47] <Maruko> and then, will my KDE applications work under XFCE?
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Maruku, just try "apt-get install xfce"
[12:47] <_4strO> Maruko: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-destop
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Worked for me with gnome.
[12:47] <_4strO> Maruko: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Then had to apt-get kde again to make it compiled for KDE by default.
[12:48] <Black_Cat> btw, i've installed ICEWM and i want my KDE apps work under it. is there a way?
[12:48] <deviance> I would trust _4strO
[12:48] <_4strO> :p
[12:49] <_4strO> deviance: $USER output is ok ?
[12:49] <Maruko> @_4str0== will my KDE applications work under XFCE?
[12:49] <_4strO> Maruko: yes
[12:49] <Maruko> wow
[12:49] <Maruko> I try now
[12:49] <mula> hello
[12:49] <mula> how can i install the nvidia and nforce drivers?
[12:49] <deviance> Im not sure what you mean by $user
[12:49] <_4strO> !nvisia
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvisia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <_4strO> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <mula> ty :)
[12:50] <mula> !nforce
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <guhhh> _4strO: i will try something stupid, /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg -i *
[12:50] <guhhh> lol
[12:50] <_4strO> lol
[12:51] <deviance> Whats the program for finding and adding programs to the kmenu
[12:51] <_4strO> deviance: kmenuedit
[12:51] <Maruko> @_4str0 : then can I remove all the XFCE applications from my pc? I mean, Thunderbird and so on...since I don't use them is useless for me to have them installed, right?
[12:52] <deviance> Isnt there one that does it automaticly, I have it on my pc but i cant rember the terminakl rpmpt
[12:52] <_4strO> Maruko: right
[12:52] <Maruko> ok
[12:53] <Maruko> then how can I know which packages I should NOT uninstall?
[12:53] <_4strO> Maruko: dont really know
[12:54] <Maruko> I cannot really understand how to use Quanta...
[12:54] <Maruko> I don't know a lot of HTML code
[12:54] <Maruko> so I am a little in trouble
[12:55] <jujimufu> Maruko: the best thing to do is read some tutorials on HTML and learn at least the basics.
[12:55] <Black_Cat> Maruko, when you remove some vital library which is required for some application, this application will be removed too! So you just check "Preview Changes" in Adept and... well, i think you got the idea :)
[12:56] <Maruko> ok
[12:58] <Maruko> ok last thing
[12:58] <Maruko> how can I enter the Italian Kubuntu Channel?
[12:58] <nerfbat> I got a small question I cannot seem to find the answer to, is there any way to remove the god awfull bouncing icon when you start a program
[12:59] <Black_Cat> neoj_, look for "Launch Feedback" in "appearance" or some place else, i don't remember exactly. and turn it off :)
[01:00] <nerfbat> Ah, I ran into that word trying google, but I cannot seem to find it in apperance under setup or in knoq. Will look again, it gotta be there
[01:01] <Black_Cat> nerfbat, the last position in "Panel" part of "System settings"
[01:02] <Black_Cat> and, you can switch it on/off for every single app, there's a checkbox in K Menu Editor for this purpose.
[01:02] <nerfbat> Ah, I will try and locate that now
[01:04] <_4strO> nerfbat: ALT - F2 and then kcontrol
[01:04] <nerfbat> Yeah, that brought up an app I have not seen in my list
[01:05] <_4strO> nerfbat: look and feel
[01:05] <_4strO> the las t part in ti
[01:05] <_4strO> it*
[01:06] <nerfbat> Found the Lauch Feedback and disabled it
[01:06] <_4strO> ;)
[01:06] <nerfbat> much better now, thanks
[01:08] <deviance> !kmplayer
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <kraut> moin
[01:08] <mads-> Can I reset my xorg.conf in any way?
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean by reset it?
[01:09] <_4strO> mads-: did you look at the /etc/X11 directory to find a backup version
[01:10] <mads-> Yeah... the latest backup I made was alreay altered by myself :S
[01:10] <Black_Cat> mads-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <Black_Cat> i guess that might help
[01:10] <_4strO> it might to create a new one ;)
[01:10] <mads-> Black_Cat: Can I run that over ssh?
[01:10] <mads-> I'd like to create a new one :)
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> You can run anything over ssh if you're allowed.
[01:11] <_4strO> mads-: ssh -X ;)
[01:12] <mads-> Maxdamantus: I can't run X applications, can I ? :)
[01:12] <Black_Cat> hmm... i'm not sure, try it ;)
[01:12] <mads-> thanks guys.. I'll try...
[01:12] <_4strO> mads-: you can with the -X option
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> Yea. As long as the server has it enabled.
[01:13] <mads-> Don't think it has though...
[01:13] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: dont think so
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, don't think so what?
[01:14] <_4strO> dont think you have something to activate to run x app aver ssh -X
[01:15] <_4strO> you have something to activate if you want startx an Xsession under network
[01:19] <underdog5004> you know, I started playing with gentoo just for something new...I didn't realize that compiling from source took so long. My lappy's been compiling kde and deps since last night
[01:19] <voltagex_> anyone using kaffeine for DVB TV?
[01:19] <underdog5004> about 27 hours, and counting
[01:19] <mads-> Hmm.. Dunno why, but the nvidia driver just don't want to work.. So I just sat my driver to be "nv" and now it is working..
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Lol.. What speed CPU?
[01:20] <mads-> Don't think it is using the real nvidia driver, but who cares - it works and no games will be played on it :)
[01:20] <mads-> But thanks for your quick replies...
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> Longest my 2.4ghz P4 took was about 2 hours for KDE, and 45 mins for Firefox.
[01:20] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, 933Mhz PIII
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> :S
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> I liked Gentoo, seemed powerful, but couldn't get the sound working.
[01:21] <underdog5004> yeah, but I'm not cool enough to compile on a seperate machine and then copy the bins over...
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> So decided to use kubuntu because it's said to be easy to set up.
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> I know that portage > apt-get :d
[01:23] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, I chose gentoo because it'll be more of a challenge...I've gotten to a point with kubuntu where I'm not learning new stuff anymore...gotta keep myself sharp....
[01:23] <Maxdamantus> Yea, Gentoo was my first distrib, and I think I learnt quite a bit from the time I used it.
[01:24] <underdog5004> I don't know if the whole compile for your machine for speed is a bunch of hype or for real...I think apt-get > portage atm, but I've only been at gentoo for a few days...installing was a bi...female dog
[01:24] <Maxdamantus> I'll fix Gentoo up again so I can use it dual booting.
[01:24] <underdog5004> I started with Damn Small Linux
[01:24] <underdog5004> that was fun, I learned a lot
[01:24] <Simeon_H> I started with MEPIS
[01:24] <Maxdamantus> portage is much more straightforward.
[01:24] <Simeon_H> KDE was love
[01:25] <underdog5004> lol @ Simeon_H
[01:25] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, why?
[01:25] <underdog5004> apt-get install program...hard to get easier than that
[01:25] <_4strO> i started with mandrake !
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> Portage uses ebuilds, so you can set custom flags before compiling.
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> /etc/make.conf
[01:25] <_4strO> underdog5004: you can, aptitude :p
[01:25] <underdog5004> oh, right
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> And alot of other reasons why.
[01:26] <underdog5004> _4strO, not in mho
[01:26] <underdog5004> apt-get is easier for me
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Colour coding makes it quicker to read, rather than reading everything, just look for black, which is the size of downloads.
[01:26] <underdog5004> apt-cache search for packages I don't know the exact name of, etc...
[01:26] <_4strO> fot me to but it has a historical reason
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Tells you exactly what you're installing, and what category it is.
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Also tells you the flags you're using before, so you can edit them and run again if you don't like them.
[01:27] <underdog5004> I didn't notice any color-coding! I want my money back!
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> And, can run more than one at a time.
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Lol. When you "emerge -av something"
[01:27] <underdog5004> Maxdamantus, oh, very cool, I wasn't sure that I could emerge more than one at a time
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Not really very efficient emerging more than one at a time.
[01:28] <underdog5004> lol
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Would just half the speed on both of them. :d
[01:28] <underdog5004> cause it's compiling 2/more, right?
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> Lol. I might install xpde for the hell of it.
[01:30] <underdog5004> xpde...xp desktop environment?
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Meant for people who are used to the Windows interface.
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> http://www.xpde.com/
[01:30] <Black_Cat> is kde interface really that different? i don't think so :)
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> Look at xpde, then decide.
[01:31] <_4strO> Black_Cat: your right
[01:31] <_4strO> you're righht
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> It is fairly different.
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> Unless you tell it to be similar.
[01:32] <_4strO> linux dont have to mimic windows, the user have to be emancipate :p
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> And I think kubuntu is trying to edit KDE to be a mix of Mac and Windows.
[01:33] <underdog5004> lol, I like twoplustwo.com
[01:33] <underdog5004> might be 2plus2.com
[01:33] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: the better mix i ever seen
[01:33] <Black_Cat> Maxdamantus, absolutely agreed. the "System Settings" look'n'feel almost stolen from MacOS X :)))
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[01:33] <underdog5004> gotta remember that linux isn't windows...if anything, it's unix
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> I don't like it.. I liked KDE when I was using Gentoo better.
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> underdog5004, it's not unix.
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> It's a clone of unix.
[01:34] <underdog5004> anyway, good talking w/ you Maxdamantus, I gotta go cuddle w/ my gf
[01:34] <mlv> hola
[01:34] <underdog5004> it's 5 in the morning
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Ok.
[01:34] <mlv> irc spanish??
[01:34] <Black_Cat> underdog5004, LINUX = Linux Is Not UniX :)
[01:34] <mlv> irc.ubuntu-es??no conect
[01:34] <underdog5004> LINUX = Linus' unix
[01:34] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu es
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <underdog5004> was originally called freax
[01:34] <underdog5004> adios
[01:35] <mlv> !kubuntu es
[01:35] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu-es
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <mlv> !kubuntu-es
[01:35] <_4strO> !es
[01:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:35] <mlv> !es
[01:35] <_4strO> :p
[01:35] <pa> hello
[01:35] <_4strO> yo
[01:35] <mlv> ok
[01:35] <Black_Cat> ah
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:/$ php -r 'if("linux" != "unix"){echo "true\n";}'
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> true
[01:35] <pa> i just upgraded from edgy to feisty. but on kde->logout options for shutdown/restart disappeared... i have only "log out"
[01:35] <pa> why?
[01:36] <_4strO> pa: you're using XGL ?
[01:36] <pa> uh? no
[01:36] <pa> i dont think so
[01:36] <pa> what is it?
[01:36] <pa> :)
[01:36] <Maxdamantus> What does "Suspend" do?
[01:37] <_4strO> pa: try to 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:37] <voltagex_> what format does kaffiene broadcast in?
[01:37] <pa> i'll try thanks :)
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Btw, how do I use beryl? I can't figure it out.
[01:39] <mlv> no conect irc spanish
[01:39] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: what's the problem ?
[01:39] <blekos> how can i change the wait time in GRUB?
[01:39] <Black_Cat> mlv, /join #kubuntu-es
[01:40] <simoux> hallo
[01:40] <llutz> hi
[01:40] <mlv> gracias
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> Not sure, but for example, for General > Shortcuts > Desktop Cube > Bindings > Unfold Cube, I have it set to <Shift><Control><Alt>Return, but it does nothing.
[01:40] <_4strO> blekos: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> I can't see any difference. :S
[01:41] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: exept this, is beryl works fine ?
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> No, I can't see any difference after installing it.
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> Never used it before though, so probably just me.
[01:42] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: beryl-manager in a console ?
[01:42] <Maxdamantus> settings you mean.
[01:42] <simoux> i have my tv carte working unter ubuntu witjout sound
[01:43] <simoux> tvtime
[01:43] <_4strO> nop Maxdamantus : beryl-manager (close the rubis icon in the systray before)
[01:43] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just to see if there is an error
[01:44] <Maxdamantus> Oh. I needed to run "beryl"
[01:44] <Maxdamantus> O_o Fancy
[01:44] <_4strO> lol
[01:44] <simoux> can i get hepl
[01:44] <_4strO> !ask | simoux
[01:45] <ubotu> simoux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:45] <Maxdamantus> Am I not able to use normal KDE Windows decorations while using it?
[01:45] <simoux> i hav my tv carte working   in ubuntu but no sound
[01:45] <simoux> tvtime
[01:45] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: exept if you install aquamarin engine i think
[01:46] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: you have two choice for win decoration, aquamarine or emerald
[01:47] <_4strO> simoux: you have sound elsewhere ?
[01:47] <simoux> yes
[01:47] <simoux> it work fine
[01:48] <_4strO> simoux: fr ?
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. And how does one shut down beryl correctly?
[01:48] <simoux> marocain a frankfurt
[01:48] <simoux> je parle francais
[01:48] <_4strO> Maxdamantus:  ??? dont understand
[01:49] <Maxdamantus> I tried ending it's task, and I couldn't switch windows or use the keyboard. :d
[01:49] <Maxdamantus> Can't access my top kicker either.
[01:49] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: dont really sure i understand but try ESC
[01:50] <_4strO> simoux: sorry i never install a tv card so ...
[01:50] <simoux> ok
[01:51] <_4strO> simoux: try open some TV in vlc
[01:51] <simoux> i tray im google
[01:51] <simoux> i cant , but  it doentwork xine
[01:52] <blekos> sometimes its really frustrating, u install a program and it doesnt appear in the menu... any ideas how i can do that?
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> blekos, you can add it easily.
[01:52] <_4strO> blekos: wath do you want ?
[01:53] <Maxdamantus> Right click the menu icon, and then "Edit menu"
[01:53] <Maxdamantus> No, "Menu editor"
[01:54] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. This is a bit too heavy for my integrated video card actually.
[01:54] <blekos> i want to add program (basicaly the command for running it) in the kmenu in the utiliets section
[01:55] <Maxdamantus> Then go into the Menu editor, Utilities, and clck "New"
[01:55] <blekos> ok, and smg else i've installed a prog (katalog) but i dont know how to run it, i tried Katalog & katalog in the command line, any ideas how i can find it?
[01:55] <bert__> is this a known bug.. if not, where and how do i submit it..
[01:55] <bert__> http://www.bpeers.com/stuff/kubuntu-lock-dos.avi
[01:56] <_4strO> blekos: you install katalog is that right ?
[01:56] <blekos> yes?
[01:56] <blekos> yes
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> No AGP ftl
[01:57] <_4strO> blekos: try to kata + TAB
[01:57] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: wich card ?
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> It's integrated.
[01:58] <Maxdamantus> Intel i810 something.
[01:58] <Maxdamantus> It uses about 24mb of my RAM. :d
[01:59] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ok lol type 'glxinfo | grep render'
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, if you're trying to help me with my video card, nty.
[01:59] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just have a look if you can use beryl :p
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> It can only be fixed by getting a better one, and non-agp are hard to find.
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> I can use beryl, I'm using it atm.
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> Just really laggy when it uses any of it's affects.
[02:00] <_4strO> ha !
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> Took like 5 secs to minimize a Window with the squiggly effect.
[02:01] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: :/
[02:02] <Maxdamantus> Idc, I've been using low standard graphics on here for 5 or 6 years.
[02:02] <Maxdamantus> Used to it now.
[02:03] <atidem> ciao
[02:03] <bluebird22> any one used g4L ?
[02:03] <_4strO> bluebird22: dont know what it is :p
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> But how does one shut down beryl?
[02:04] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: what ?
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> How do I close beryl?
[02:04] <Maxdamantus> If I kill it, it doesn't close properly, and the keyboard doesn't work.
[02:04] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: just right on the rubis in the systray
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> Then I have to paste "beryl" into the terminal to get it again.
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> I don't see any rupis in the system tray.
[02:05] <_4strO> [14:03]  <_4strO> bluebird22: dont know what it is :p
[02:06] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: type 'beryl-manager'
[02:06] <_4strO> you will have one
[02:06] <Maxdamantus> It tells me to apt-get it.
[02:07] <pa> _4strO: i installed kubuntu-desktop, but i still dont have choiches to reboot when i click kde->logout
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> It did nothing when I did that.
[02:07] <bluebird22> _4strO backup app
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:~/42804-domino-0.4/domino-0.4$ sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> Password:
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> maxdamantus@maxdamantus:~/42804-domino-0.4/domino-0.4$ beryl-manager
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> The program 'beryl-manager' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:07] <Maxdamantus> Sorry for spam. :S
[02:08] <_4strO> pa: restart X
[02:08] <Maxdamantus> Ah, working now for some reason.
[02:08] <pa> _4strO: did
[02:09] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Wtf.
[02:09] <Maxdamantus> It added invisible Window decorations.
[02:09] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: emerald --replace
[02:10] <Maxdamantus> Now has broken images. :D
[02:11] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: come back into kwin
[02:11] <pa> in "session manager" i have checked "offer shutdown opts"
[02:11] <jussi01> !beryl
[02:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:11] <snap> beryl is a waste
[02:12] <Maxdamantus> Agreed.
[02:12] <snap> its fun for like 5 minutes
[02:12] <_4strO> pa: mmm you're under gnome ?
[02:12] <_4strO> lol
[02:12] <lt_> ug i just swapped windows managers from gnome to kde, and when I VnC into the kde session I get these errors.  "kompmgr cannot find the Xrender extension", now I can only get a few apps to actually open ><
[02:12] <pa> lol :)
[02:12] <snap> but then you want your memory back LOL
[02:13] <pa> and by the way it is a very ugly splash with the only "logout" opt
[02:14] <_4strO> pa: i cant help you on gnome options sorry
[02:14] <Maxdamantus> #ubuntu is gnome.
[02:15] <pa> lol
[02:15] <pa> it's not gnome
[02:15] <pa> it's kde
[02:15] <snap> for me gnome takes forever to open windows.....KDE much snappy-er........but i still like Xforc desktop it  is fast
[02:16] <Maxdamantus> How do you restart X?
[02:16] <Maxdamantus> I forgot. :S
[02:16] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:16] <lt_> k well let me ask this then, since i got crickets on my last question,  how can i remove kde and gnome completely and then just install kde?
[02:17] <_4strO> lt_: reinstall all ;o
[02:17] <snap> lt_ download kbunto iso and make live cd?
[02:17] <bert__> how do you turn off the auto mouse-button-press on laptop touchpads ?
[02:18] <bert__> i keep clicking stuff i shouldn't :|
[02:18] <_4strO> lt_: you can 'sudo apt-get remoce kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop && install kubuntu-desktop, but it will not remove all things
[02:18] <lt_> i dont want to wipe everything out, there are things that I have setup that I dont want to lose
[02:18] <blekos> 
[02:18] <snap> addremove the gnome desktop in synaptic
[02:19] <blekos> in KDE menu appear the GNOME menu items as well, what will happen if I make a subcategory and move them there?
[02:19] <lt_> i just get the feeling that my kubuntu-desktop install was flakey cause of the vnc issues
[02:19] <_4strO> lt_: and you should not  probably do this in kde
[02:19] <_4strO> blekos: nothing other that you ask to him
[02:19] <_4strO> ^^
[02:20] <_4strO> blekos: nothing other that you ask him to do
[02:20] <_4strO> better ?
[02:20] <blekos> so, when I log in to GNOME everything will appear as usual?
[02:20] <Maxdamantus> Btw, what happened to SSL on this server?
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> 66697 isn't even open. :S
[02:21] <_4strO> blekos: probably :p
[02:21] <Maxdamantus> 6697*
[02:22] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: kdesu kate /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[02:22] <Maxdamantus> _4strO, nothing to do with my computer.
[02:23] <Maxdamantus> Was wondering why Freenode doesn't offer SSL connections to IRC anymore.
[02:23] <_4strO> Maxdamantus: haaaaa :p
[02:24] <Aattila> can anybody help with amarok? it updates database when i try to run it, but then happens nothing and amarok isn't loaded
[02:26] <Maxdamantus> Rofl. xpde is < 5mb
[02:27] <pandaconstantin> salut tout le monde
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Je parlez vous englai?
[02:27] <emonkey> !fr
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Havn't done french for so long. :S
[02:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:27] <Maxdamantus> Wonder if that meant what I thought it meant.
[02:28] <xcatxxl> hallo an euch alle
[02:28] <rfoss> Hi, is there anyone that could provide some helpful hints for troubleshooting my KDE login?  When I use kdm and log in to kde, I keep getting thrown back to the login window.  However when I use gdm and log in to kde, I successfully log in and KDE seems to work fine.
[02:30] <gugliolo> hi to all!!!
[02:30] <rfoss> oh, and kdm_greet seems to produce the following error: Internal error: memory corruption detected.
[02:30] <xcatxxl> can i make a update for kubunto
[02:30] <gugliolo> hem
[02:31] <gugliolo> can someone help me with some beryl problems?
[02:31] <JohnB>  8-)
[02:31] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:32] <fildo> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <coolzgeek> Im using Feisty and i installed iceweasel using a .deb package and now when i access Firefox, iceweasel pops up! I want both browswers
[02:33] <xcatxxl> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[02:33] <xcatxxl> jemand aus deutschland da?
[02:33] <coolzgeek> KDE 4 is comming out i think
[02:34] <xcatxxl> i need a updatee of kubunto
[02:34] <USMarine> kubuntu*
[02:35] <xcatxxl> ok
[02:35] <xcatxxl> some bady now how i can make a update?
[02:35] <xcatxxl> body
[02:36] <coolzgeek> Im using Feisty and i installed iceweasel using a .deb package and now when i access Firefox, iceweasel pops up! I want both browsers
[02:36] <Jucato> !de | xcatxxl
[02:36] <ubotu> xcatxxl: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:36] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, use a link to Firefox?
[02:36] <xcatxxl> danke jucato
[02:37] <icecruncher> how do you apply a patch to kopete?
[02:37] <xcatxxl> www.kubuntu.de
[02:37] <xcatxxl> sorry
[02:37] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> How are you trying to run it?
[02:37] <coolzgeek> Using a link on the toolbar
[02:37] <yaccin> xcatxxl: *meld*
[02:37] <coolzgeek> the link
[02:37] <coolzgeek> i unistalled iceweasel
[02:37] <coolzgeek> tool
[02:37] <yaccin> hmm i have a USB-Hard drive
[02:37] <yaccin> and it doesnt work
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> Right click it, "Configure firefox.."
[02:37] <yaccin> when i plug it in, the little window comes up
[02:37] <Maxdamantus> Then Application tab
[02:38] <yaccin> so i select "open in new window"
[02:38] <yaccin> and nothing happens :(
[02:38] <Maxdamantus> See what it says in the "Command" text box.
[02:38] <baudthief> Is there an app similar to DVDshrink for linux? I'd rather not go the 'wine' route - just need to backup a couple of DVDs
[02:38] <baudthief> (and reburn)
[02:38] <llutz> baudthief: k9copy dvd95
[02:38] <yaccin> baudthief: k9copy
[02:38] <yaccin> or dvdrip
[02:39] <baudthief> thanks!
[02:39] <coolzgeek> right click what?
[02:39] <Maxdamantus> The Firefox icon.
[02:39] <montoya> Hi, I have a problem with kdevelop
[02:39] <coolzgeek> There isn't a configure firefox
[02:39] <coolzgeek> Its on a panel
[02:40] <Maxdamantus> ...
[02:40] <montoya> Kdevelop start witouth translation
[02:40] <yaccin> montoya: ...
[02:40] <yaccin> hm
[02:40] <chijin> does k9copy 'shrink' dvd9s to dvd5?
[02:40] <montoya> It's a problem with kubuntu
[02:40] <yaccin> chijin: yes
[02:40] <yaccin> or to 1 or more avi files
[02:40] <yaccin> if you want to
[02:40] <yaccin> or mpegs
[02:40] <yaccin> or DVD images of every size you want to
[02:40] <chijin> i still use dvdsrink with wine :P
[02:41] <Maxdamantus> montoya, I mean the option staring with "Configure firefox"
[02:41] <DarkED> hi, i want to mount my root partition on my real hdd in write mode on the liveCD, how would i do that?
[02:41] <Maxdamantus> Couldn't be bothered typing "Configure firefox web browser button"
[02:41] <coolzgeek> montoya?
[02:41] <montoya> firefox??
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> Oh, nvm.
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> Wrong person.
[02:42] <montoya> ;)
[02:42] <yaccin> i want to mount the USB-HDD :(
[02:42] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, if it's on a panel, you should be able to do that.
[02:42] <coolzgeek> Nop
[02:42] <coolzgeek> Configure Firefox?
[02:43] <coolzgeek> oh you mean on Iceweasel?
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> You say when you try opening Firefox it opens Iceweasel.
[02:43] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> It's not configuring the program, configuring the shortcut.
[02:43] <coolzgeek> Yeah then what do i do?
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> Right click the shortcut, and select the option starting with "Configure Firefox"
[02:44] <coolzgeek> There is only properties
[02:44] <coolzgeek> Launcher properties
[02:44] <boyee> which package include the aclocal
[02:44] <boyee> ?
[02:44] <Maxdamantus> Are you using GNOME?
[02:44] <coolzgeek> If you want me to use KDE i can
[02:44] <Maxdamantus> Click Properties
[02:44] <coolzgeek> THen?
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Then, see what it says in the "Command" box.
[02:45] <blckcts> coolzgeek:  command: "firefox %u"
[02:45] <boyee>  which package contains the aclocal??
[02:45] <coolzgeek> yes
[02:45] <coolzgeek> firefox %u
[02:45] <coolzgeek> thats what it said
[02:45] <boyee> help me!!!!
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Try in a terminal: firefox
[02:45] <coolzgeek> Tried it
[02:46] <coolzgeek> doesnt work
[02:46] <Maxdamantus> It opens Iceweasel?
[02:46] <coolzgeek> Yes
[02:46] <boyee> Hi all, please tell me which package contains the aclocal??
[02:47] <blekos> how can i set my IP
[02:47] <HymnToLife> which IP ?
[02:47] <yaccin> anyone can help with my usb-hdd? :(
[02:47] <coolzgeek> Funnily, when i su, it can work
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> The firefox symlink probably leads to iceweasel then.
[02:47] <blekos> in windows is smg like configure tcp/ip
[02:47] <enry> hi
[02:47] <blekos> well,
[02:47] <icecruncher> anybody know how to add custom emoticons to kopete?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> your LAN IP, then ?
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, try "cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox"
[02:47] <HymnToLife> doesn't Ubuntu have a GUI-thingie for it ?
[02:47] <blekos> i am having wan in my house , and want to give my laptop a standard internal IP
[02:47] <blekos> no,
[02:47] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:47] <blekos> just for my laptop so I can set up a vnc l8r
[02:48] <coolzgeek> ok
[02:48] <coolzgeek> then?
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> Now, "./firefox-bin"
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> (No quotes)
[02:49] <coolzgeek> no such file
[02:49] <coolzgeek> i lsed
[02:49] <coolzgeek> and theres such file though
[02:50] <Maxdamantus> Did you mistype?
[02:50] <coolzgeek> nop
[02:50] <coolzgeek> lemme try using nautilus
[02:51] <czer323> Is there an easy way to get picture files on the desktop to show as thumbnails for KDE?
[02:51] <blekos> so any ideas?
[02:52] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[02:52] <coolzgeek> seems like the file is corrupted
[02:52] <coolzgeek> i can't run it
[02:52] <coolzgeek> i tried reinstalling though
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> Try "./firefox" in that directory.
[02:53] <coolzgeek> didn't wokr either
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, "apt-get remove iceweasel"
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> Didn't realise that iceweasel is pretty much Firefox.
[02:55] <coolzgeek> i removed already
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> "apt-get remove firefox"
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> Then "apt-get install firefox"
[02:56] <shawn34> how do i check to see if the kernal can see my multi-card reader?
[02:56] <ForgeAus> !dist upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <coolzgeek> Hey but ubuntu-desktop will be removed
[02:56] <shawn34> so
[02:56] <ForgeAus> !upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:56] <coolzgeek> wait lemme go to kde first
[02:56] <shawn34> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[02:56] <coolzgeek> oh
[02:56] <coolzgeek> okay then
[02:57] <shawn34> its ok to remove it
[02:57] <xXLOOSERXx> warum is der 3d desktop bei kubuntu nich dabei?
[02:57] <coolzgeek> do i have to sudo?
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Yes
[02:57] <jjj> hey I was surprised by the iceweasel term I have read here...
[02:57] <ForgeAus> yes generally
[02:57] <ForgeAus> unless its a gui app
[02:57] <ForgeAus> then its kdesu
[02:58] <Maxdamantus> It's not a gui app.
[02:58] <jjj> I didnt realize that firefox has some legal issues with debian...
[02:58] <coolzgeek> dint work
[02:58] <xXLOOSERXx> firefox shits
[02:58] <coolzgeek> there was a bug
[02:58] <ForgeAus> jjj really? what sort?
[02:58] <ForgeAus> somethign related to foss?
[02:58] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, in what?
[02:58] <coolzgeek> on https://launchpad.net/bugs/30791
[02:58] <coolzgeek> read there
[02:58] <shawn34> how do i check to see if the kernal can see my multi-card reader?
[02:59] <jjj> will firefox and iceweasel work the same? theoretically it should ryt?
[02:59] <coolzgeek> nop
[02:59] <coolzgeek> iceweasel's tabbing sucks
[03:00] <coolzgeek> you can't see the original tab
[03:00] <coolzgeek> thats why i wanted to unistall it
[03:00] <coolzgeek> and somehow, iceweasel associated itself with firefox
[03:00] <coolzgeek> when i installed some extension, they said that it was only compatible with iceweasel 2.0 even though there isn't such thing
[03:01] <jjj> ok ok, so why not the Gnuzilla team just remove the branding and exchange it with free images so tthat the functionality will be the same?
[03:01] <jjj> i mean the firefox..
[03:01] <czer323> coolzgeek: There's an extension called mrtech local that can sometimes force an extension to install.
[03:01] <coolzgeek> really?
[03:01] <coolzgeek> where
[03:02] <jjj> http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/
[03:02] <czer323> http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/  I've never tried it with iceweasle before though.
[03:02] <coolzgeek> Do you all have ubuntuforums acc?
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> Nope.
[03:02] <coolzgeek> oh
[03:02] <coolzgeek> w8
[03:03] <coolzgeek> i need to switch to KDE
[03:03] <jjj> will kubuntu still include firefox in its packages even if iceweasel will succeed in its visions?
[03:03] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[03:03] <jjj> I think that can be...
[03:04] <Moo-> Should this "Kubuntu distribution upgrade tool" be somewhere in KMenu?
[03:04] <jjj> because kde's konqueror is the default browser anyway...
[03:04] <Maxdamantus> coolzgeek, try "apt-get moo"
[03:04] <Maxdamantus> Might help.
[03:05] <czer323> Maxdamantus: lol, lies. ;)
[03:05] <sivaji> what apt-get autoremove will do
[03:06] <sivaji> !autoremove
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoremove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <coolzgeek> Hey i changed to KDE and it work
[03:06] <coolzgeek> ed
[03:06] <sivaji> jvm!
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> What was that thing on GNOME? Someone here lastnight said to do "free the fishes" or something in it.
[03:06] <coolzgeek> Do you use GNOME?
[03:06] <coolzgeek> kde is better
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> I can use GNOME.
[03:06] <Maxdamantus> I have a GNOME session on atm.
[03:06] <coolzgeek> I mean ur default session
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> Ctrl + alt + F10 = GNOME, Ctrl + alt + F7 = KDE
[03:07] <Maxdamantus> KDE is my default.
[03:07] <coolzgeek> How do i change the cursor to double click?
[03:08] <manuel__> how can i mix a list (randomly) ?
[03:08] <Jucato> coolzgeek: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse
[03:09] <coolzgeek> on kDE
[03:09] <Maxdamantus> Haha. Awesome, if you "apt-get install kde", it uses the default KDE control centre.
[03:09] <sivaji> !ops
[03:09] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[03:09] <Hobbsee> sivaji: yes?
[03:09] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[03:09] <LjL> sivaji: yes?
[03:09] <Jucato> sivaji: yes?
[03:10] <sivaji> what apt-get autoremove will do
[03:10] <coolzgeek> try aptitude moo
[03:10] <Maxdamantus> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[03:10] <coolzgeek> haha
[03:11] <coolzgeek> Which country are u from?
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> oh lord...
[03:11] <Maxdamantus> NZ
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> I'm going to bed.
[03:12] <Maxdamantus> G'night
[03:12] <BenPA> hi all ... I need a fix for LPD printing not working ... anyone have a link to the fix ... I am using 6.10
[03:13] <manuel__> can anybody help me?
[03:14] <coolzgeek> Why when i boot ubuntu theres a kubuntu boot screen?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> coolzgeek: because you installed kubuntu?
[03:15] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:15] <coolzgeek> i mean can u switch it back?
[03:15] <Jucato> coolzgeek: if you installed Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu, you also get the Kubuntu bootsplash.
[03:15] <Jucato> yep you can
[03:16] <Jucato> coolzgeek: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork
[03:16] <tuco> Hello all. Hi 4stro :-)
[03:17] <tuco> I have installed wine and need help to install utorrent.
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> wine utorrent
[03:18] <USMarine> azureus ftw
[03:18] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> azureus is a resource hog and way too bloated
[03:20] <tuco> excatly, utorrent is a a lot lighter
[03:21] <tuco> for that reason I need help to install it using wine
[03:22] <tuco> nobody?
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> wine utorrent
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> there's nothing to install with utorrent
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> just run the client from a command line with wine
[03:23] <jjj> will trillian be ported to kubuntu? I have read that trillian astra has linux version...i hope so...
[03:23] <Hobbsee> jjj: unlikely.  unless someone does the work - usually at the company who makes the windows version
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> jjj: why would anyone need trillian when there's kopete?
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe it's improved, but trillian always felt to me like a badly hacked together amalgamation of parts
[03:24] <jjj> i was an ubuntu user and I'm not satisfied with Gaim...I planning to shift to kubuntu when the CDs arrives...
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> now that's a good reason
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> dialup?
[03:25] <jjj> so kopete was the IM tool for kubuntu...
[03:25] <tuco> OK done anyway. I just clicked on properties and made it an executable.
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: don't like ktorrent, i take it?
[03:26] <crene> <hello from crene
[03:26] <crene> <belgium
[03:26] <tuco> I never used it. I have utorrent in windows so I stick with my old habits really.
[03:27] <tuco> it isn't a bloatware like azureus so there you go :-)
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i would try out ktorrent, personally.  why even shift to a new os if the same habits still apply
[03:27] <jjj> kopete looks like trillian as I saw it from the screenshots...now I dont care about trillian astra ported to linux...
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> jjj: hehe, yeah, kopete's really nice
[03:28] <jjj> thank God almost everything is free with linux!!!!
[03:29] <tuco> We live in a free world as far I as am concerned Ido. So when I decide to use Ktorrent I will do so, right now it is also an exercise to experiment with the various options in Linux.
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: this is true, and it is your choice, i'm just recommending one that will keep your choice open rather than dependent on a windows solution
[03:30] <cntb> an X feature in kubuntu sometimes does not work  - CTRL ALT + zooms in , Ctrl ALT - zooms out but without restarting few minutes ago it stopeed zoomin/
[03:30] <manuel__> how can i sort a list randomly?
[03:30] <cntb> ah got it !!!!!!!!!
[03:30] <cntb> must be in english
[03:30] <tuco> No worries Ido. I will certainly give it a try as long as it isn't a resource monger like azureus!
[03:30] <fagin> Where can I find info to install mp3 support into a fesity install?
[03:30] <cntb> was in Spanish and greek
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> oh definitely not
[03:30] <fagin> *feisty
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it's pretty lightweight
[03:31] <tuco> lighter than utorrent?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> fagin: open an mp3 in amarok
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> not quite as light as utorrent, but i don't think anything is yet
[03:31] <cntb> this doesn ot work as expected windows keyboard behaves more as expected
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> but it is a native app
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> so it has that advantage
[03:31] <tuco> like what?
[03:32] <fagin> Daisuke_Ido: OK. I can't do that just now though since I can't encode anything into mp3 :)
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> fagin: you'll need libxine-extracodecs and lame
[03:32] <icecruncher> what is the kubuntu equivilant or how do u do the same like this in ubuntu  System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs -> New:
[03:32] <don> how do you configure kopete?
[03:32] <jjj> does anyone here knows how to use winmodems in kubuntu/ubuntu other than the Linuxant drivers (which is not free)?
[03:33] <fagin> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks. I'll look fro those packets in adept
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> don: when you open it the first time, you get a "welcome to kopete" with a setup wizard
[03:33] <don> I try aand get noware
[03:34] <BenPA> can anyone help me with LPD printing?
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and after that, go to settings > configure kopete
[03:34] <don> its all new to me but I like it
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you obviously have to know your account details for the different protocols if you want to use them
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> username and password, stuff like that
[03:35] <don> yes but it does not work at all
[03:35] <icecruncher> or how do you add a program to strtup (firewall)
[03:35] <don> goes through motions and does nothing
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> did it set up the account?
[03:37] <icecruncher> anyone?
[03:39] <cntb> +
[03:41] <Jucato> !startup | icecruncher
[03:41] <ubotu> icecruncher: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:41] <Jucato> icecruncher: although I imagine the app also having it's own settings to do that
[03:41] <icecruncher> hmm
[03:42] <jjj> how about startups in kubuntu?
[03:42] <icecruncher> yeah?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:42] <Hobbsee> jjj: ^
[03:42] <Jucato> oh crap
[03:42] <Jucato> sorry
[03:42] <Hobbsee> or link, or wahtever
[03:42] <Jucato> !autostart | icecruncher
[03:42] <ubotu> icecruncher: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:43] <Jucato> this is definitely not my night :/
[03:43] <abattoir> poor desk :(
[03:43] <jjj> ok thanks thanks...
[03:43] <icecruncher> lol
[03:43] <icecruncher> thanks
[03:44] <Jucato> abattoir: you have to wait for infinity :)
[03:44] <yapi> anyone have kubuntu & win x on laptop?
[03:44] <yapi> xp..
[03:44] <Jucato> :D
[03:44] <abattoir> Hobbsee: you weren't the one i irked ;)
[03:44] <abattoir> Hobbsee: hi, btw :)
[03:45] <Jucato> abattoir: are you sure? :D
[03:45] <Hobbsee> abattoir: heya!
[03:45] <abattoir> yapi: lots of people here do... what's your question/problem?
[03:45] <abattoir> Jucato: unless you two are alternate identities of the same person or something ;)
[03:45] <MementoMori__> hi all
[03:45] <MementoMori__> where can I find cowpatty package?
[03:45] <MementoMori__> !cowpatty
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cowpatty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <yapi> I'm trying to install kubuntu on logical particion but I always have the code: no main files system
[03:46] <abattoir> MementoMori__: doesn't seem to be in the feisty repos from what i can see
[03:47] <icecruncher> !info cowpatty
[03:47] <ubotu> Package cowpatty does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:47] <abattoir> yapi: where do you see this?
[03:47] <abattoir> yapi: also how many primary/logical partitions do you have?
[03:47] <yapi> when I choose mount points
[03:47] <don> can serious gaming be done with kubuntu?
[03:47] <MementoMori__> abattoir: there is a way to know if there is a repo with cowpatty avaible?
[03:48] <Jucato> yapi: make sure that you have a partition that's set aside for and mounted on /
[03:48] <Jucato> (in the partition table part of the installer)
[03:48] <yapi> I have / and swap
[03:48] <MementoMori__> abattoir: nUbuntu seems to have this packet
[03:49] <icecruncher> ok this might seem silly but does anybody know how to make the icons in the system tray a bit smaller so that they are on 2 rows intead of 1?
[03:49] <abattoir> MementoMori__: would it be possible for you to compile it?
[03:49] <yapi> what I should install First ? lkubuntu or xp ?
[03:49] <Jucato> MementoMori__: nubuntu isn't an official derivative... we don't have their repos
[03:49] <Jucato> icecruncher:  you can't make the icons smaller, but you can make the panel larger so that it will fit in 2 rows
[03:49] <abattoir> yapi: i'd recommend installing xp first, then kubuntu
[03:50] <icecruncher> Jucato: ugh, ok,
[03:50] <jjj> xp first then kubuntu/ubuntu...because ubuntu installer is smarter then xp...
[03:50] <yapi> ok I install xp as primary partition ..
[03:50] <Jucato> icecruncher: use a Custom size of 48... that's the smallest possible that will have 2 rows
[03:50] <enry> bye
[03:50] <don> I installed on clean drive
[03:50] <icecruncher> k
[03:50] <yapi> and leave 3 partitions for kubuntu ..two linux ext 3 and 1 swap ..yes?
[03:51] <Hobbsee> yapi: xp first
[03:51] <Hobbsee> and yes
[03:51] <yapi> ok ;p
[03:51] <yapi> will try
[03:51] <Jucato> well, you can have 2 partitions for kubuntu (/ and swap) but it's recommended that you have a different one for /home :)
[03:51] <jjj> or dont install xp at all...hehe...
[03:52] <icecruncher> woo
[03:52] <icecruncher> lol
[03:52] <Jucato> ideal and nice to think about... but sometimes not practical :)
[03:53] <don> can you get an emulater to run my games?
[03:56] <Mena> Hey
[03:57] <yapi> and there should be only one primary partition ..xp or xp and / should be both primary partitions?
[03:57] <don> can you run windows software like games?
[03:57] <Mena> yes
[03:57] <Mena> use wine
[03:58] <Mena> !wine
[03:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:58] <yapi> ?
[03:58] <don> what is wine I have heard of it
[03:58] <don> thanks
[03:58] <Mena> wine is  compatibility layer wich enable you to run Xp apps
[03:59] <Mena> yapi, i guess you better make Xp and / and swap primary partitions
[03:59] <DjDemon> hello
[04:00] <Mena> Hello
[04:00] <jjj> :-)
[04:00] <yapi> ok tnx
[04:00] <Mena> you are welcome
[04:00] <Mena> :)
[04:00] <yapi> :)
[04:02] <yapi> but then /home would also be rimary
[04:02] <jjj> does anyone here knows how to use winmodems in kubuntu/ubuntu other than the Linuxant drivers (which is not free)?
[04:02] <yapi> ..primary
[04:03] <AltKey> hello
[04:03] <Mena> yapi, /home located on the / root partition
[04:03] <Mena> yapi, so its on the primary partition
[04:04] <Mena> Hello
[04:04] <jup2> hi
[04:04] <yapi> but some other say that there shoulb be 3 partitions .. / , /home , and swap
[04:04] <yapi> ..should..
[04:04] <Mena> ???!!
[04:04] <Mena> i dont know any thing a bout this
[04:05] <Mena> maybe you get it wrong or maybe its me
[04:05] <jup2> i installed kde on my ubuntu but kde-core is not installed do i need it?
[04:05] <Mena> but its cant as i guess
 well, you can have 2 partitions for kubuntu (/ and swap) but it's recommended that you have a different one for /home :)
[04:05] <yapi> make up your mind ;p
[04:06] <Jucato> yapi: "you can" means it's technically possible. "it's recommended" means that you're advised to do it... no confusion there ;)
[04:06] <DjDemon> someone can tell me do kubuntu has included beryl?
[04:06] <Jucato> DjDemon: not installed or enabled by default.
[04:06] <yapi> so I can make 2 ;p
[04:06] <Jucato> you can install it using Adept Manager
[04:07] <Jucato> yapi: yes, you *can*
[04:07] <Jucato> (whether you want to depends on you)
[04:09] <jup2> i installed kde by install the kubuntu-desktop package  it works but the package kde and kde-core and x-window-system is not installed do i not need them??
[04:09] <Hobbsee> jup2: shouldnt do
[04:09] <jup2> ?
[04:09] <Jucato> jup2: nope. not necessary
[04:09] <jup2> okey
[04:10] <jup2> can i remove all the gnome stuff now then?
[04:11] <_4strO> jup2: you can try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <Jucato> won't work neatly _4strO
[04:11] <Jucato> jup2: try this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:12] <_4strO> Jucato: ok
[04:12] <jovan> where can i find seamonkey in the repo?
[04:12] <icecruncher> question, why does ubuntu not have a firewall preinstalled?
[04:12] <_4strO> icecruncher: he as one
[04:13] <boyee> Hi,How to do search in my installed packages?
[04:13] <jup2> thx
[04:13] <icecruncher> how do you configure it?
[04:13] <icecruncher> boyee, use dpkg -l
[04:13] <_Schlumpf> icecruncher: iptables
[04:13] <boyee> Oh,Thanks!
[04:13] <icecruncher> _Schlumpf: so are any others unecessary?
[04:13] <_4strO> icecruncher: or you can install some gui for manage it
[04:13] <icecruncher> ah
[04:13] <icecruncher> k
[04:14] <ofek> hi everyone
[04:14] <jovan> arno-iptables-firewall
[04:14] <icecruncher> hi
[04:15] <boyee> icecruncher.
[04:15] <LjL> icecruncher: because it has no internet accessible services installed
[04:15] <LjL> if you install services, you're supposed to be sane enough to also set up a firewall
[04:15] <icecruncher> lol
[04:15] <icecruncher> boyee, what?
[04:16] <DjDemon> oh, and tell me please, what program I need to view .pdf files?
[04:16] <icecruncher> kpdf
[04:16] <Jucato> DjDemon: kpdf (installed by default)
[04:16] <boyee> I want to remove all the package contains scim,but the dpkg -l scim don't show me all the packages i installed and only one package name scim.
[04:16] <voidmage> What resolution does kubuntu usplash use by default?
[04:17] <Jucato> voidmage: "cat /etc/usplash.conf" will tell you
[04:18] <sayers> Hello
[04:18] <boyee> icecruncher,How to print all packages' name I want above.
[04:18] <ofek> helloooooooo
[04:18] <icecruncher> boyee: print?
[04:18] <sayers> I have a problem with my keyboard, I can use it in a differnt terminal session but in KDE it doesnt respond after I log in.
[04:18] <fagin> Is there any decent KDE based cd ripper around?
[04:18] <boyee> print to shell.
[04:18] <boyee> show me in shell
[04:18] <icecruncher> that should do it
[04:19] <_4strO> fagin: k3b
[04:19] <icecruncher> dpkg -l doesnt do it?
[04:19] <Jucato> !ripping | fagin
[04:19] <ubotu> fagin: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[04:19] <boyee> any other parameter need?
[04:19] <icecruncher> boyee: another way is to a file with dpkg -l > packages.txt
[04:20] <fagin> _4strO: Nope. It rips images as far s I can tell. I want rips of indiviual files
[04:20] <boyee> Yes,It shows only one.
[04:20] <_4strO> sayers: I think it's about your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:20] <sangers> sayers: if nothing works, get rid of some files from your .kde and that should fix your keyboard problem
[04:20] <boyee> But it's not what I want.
[04:20] <_4strO> fagin: it rip CD too ;)
[04:20] <icecruncher> boyee: no
[04:20] <sayers> sangers how would I go about that
[04:20] <icecruncher> boyee: you want all the packages listed
[04:21] <sayers> it worked earlier
[04:21] <boyee> yes.Good.
[04:21] <_4strO> sangers: sudo aptget install libk3b2 libk3b2-mp3
[04:21] <fagin> _4strO: Yes, but does it rip individual files off from a CD? I only saw options for ripping an entire CD image.
[04:21] <sangers> sayers: from a plain text session go into your home/.kde/
[04:21] <Skrot-> Hi, is there a tool, like top, to measure I/O activity?
[04:21] <boyee> icecruncher.I want all the packages list contains scim I installed.
[04:22] <icecruncher> boyee: ok dpkg -l | grep scim
[04:22] <sangers> and if nothing important get rid of the directory, it will be recreate at next login, without your keyboard problem
[04:22] <boyee> Good.Thank you very much.icecruncher!
[04:22] <icecruncher> np
[04:23] <_4strO> fagin: I had try and it works, i can rip only one song if i want
[04:23] <sangers> sayers: my guess is kmail or evolution setting files corropted
[04:23] <don> has enyone installed wine it sounds tough
[04:23] <sayers> sangers well it happened when I ran a .package to install Warzone2100
[04:23] <sangers> sayers: that happen to me before, do a backup if you need to restore some setting
[04:24] <sayers> sangers bit late for that
[04:24] <fagin> _4strO: Great. Then I will try it again. Thank you for the help.
[04:24] <_4strO> fagin: ;)
[04:24] <sayers> sangers how else could I fix this?
[04:25] <ForgeAus> is there a command line to run the distro update tool?
[04:25] <sangers> sayers: did you restart your kde yet?
[04:25] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:25] <sayers> sangers i could try again I guess...
[04:26] <sangers> sayers: still no access to keyboard?
[04:26] <sangers> sayers: at the kdm login screen your keyboard works?
[04:27] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:28] <sangers> sayers: and do you get a fresh vanilla kde session?
[04:28] <icecruncher> ForgeAus: yes
[04:28] <sayers> sangers yes
[04:28] <icecruncher> !update | ForgeAus
[04:28] <ubotu> ForgeAus: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:29] <sangers> sayers: keyboard works inside kde now?
[04:29] <sayers> sangers no
[04:29] <plex> hi. first time i use kubuntu... how can i dl and install geforce fx 5600xt driver?
[04:29] <sangers> sayers: if you press on caplock do you get a green light on?
[04:30] <cables> !ubuntu | plex
[04:30] <ubotu> plex: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:30] <cables> damn
[04:30] <cables> !nvidia | plex
[04:30] <ubotu> plex: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <plex> ty
[04:30] <cables> plex: that should be a little more helpful :)
[04:31] <ForgeAus> argh my ttf-opensymbol package has problems that means open office can't upgrade :(
[04:32] <ForgeAus> says : "/usr/share/fonts": error scanning
[04:32] <ForgeAus> for a few
[04:32] <ForgeAus> then: dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):
[04:33] <ForgeAus> I copied symbolic links to fonts for X guess it just wasn't enough
[04:34] <icecruncher> ForgeAus: sorry, don't know
[04:35] <plex> how is Restricted Device Manager called in kubuntu?
[04:35] <cables> plex: it isn't.
[04:35] <cables> plex: I believe it's only in Ubuntu.
[04:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> what's the command line argument to search for keywords in man pages?
[04:36] <ForgeAus> grep generally
[04:36] <ForgeAus> to search words but in man pages I'm not sure
[04:36] <tyfon_> apropos <word>
[04:36] <Hobbsee> dettoaltrimenti_: inside them?  /word
[04:36] <manu_> playmidi and amarok dont play my midifiles, someone can help?
[04:36] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/26708
[04:36] <Yorokobi> man -k <keyword>
[04:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks tyfon_
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> and what is the command to see all files that are open on your computer
[04:38] <tyfon_> lsof :)
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[04:38] <don> anyone install Wine?
[04:38] <ForgeAus> sure
[04:38] <ForgeAus> lotsa people why?
[04:38] <don> It looks difficult
[04:38] <ForgeAus> (theres a #winehq channel in case your interested)
[04:39] <ForgeAus> nope
[04:39] <ForgeAus> simple just get it from adept
[04:39] <ForgeAus> there can be some complication depending on what you want to do with it
[04:39] <ForgeAus> and not every windows program works under it...
[04:39] <don> I checked outa site and it was very difficult to understand] 
[04:40] <ForgeAus> maybe but it doesn't HAVE to be difficult in kubuntu depending on what you need to do
[04:40] <don> then i will have trouble getting 3D
[04:40] <ForgeAus> yes I aren't sure DirectX installs under wine
[04:41] <ForgeAus> (I tihnk thats partially what Cedega's for)
[04:41] <ForgeAus> (its a commercial fork of wine with extras)
[04:41] <ForgeAus> mostly in order to run some specific games
[04:41] <don> Everything I go to do has 3 text books of directions I just will have to learn
[04:42] <ForgeAus> what are you trying to do?
[04:42] <ForgeAus> maybe you can cut some of the unnecessary information
[04:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> don, what do you want to run in wine?
[04:43] <plex> does smbdy know if nvidia-glx-legacy is for fx5600xt or do i need glx-new ?
[04:43] <don> ya most does not matter usually just sounds tough
[04:43] <ForgeAus> Don wine isn't necessarily tough
[04:43] <don> I will start by getting Wine working
[04:43] <ForgeAus> it depends on the app and what lengths you need to go to to get it running
[04:43] <ForgeAus> some do some don't even work
[04:43] <Yorokobi> plex, if you try the new one and your X won't start, check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if the driver tells you to use the legacy (or regular nvidia-glx) driver.
[04:44] <ForgeAus> ok well go to adept and install it then
[04:44] <ForgeAus> thats the easiest bit :)
[04:44] <don> I have used crossover in Xandros that worked] 
[04:44] <ForgeAus> yeah crossover is basically also a fork of wine with extras
[04:44] <plex> ty
[04:44] <icecruncher> don: and if your running feisty, there's some nice config
[04:44] <ForgeAus> it has some cushy dialogs to run stuff...
[04:44] <ForgeAus> all wine alone is is basically cxoffice without the glam
[04:45] <don> Where is a dept
[04:45] <ForgeAus> but most stuff you can do in one will also work in the other
[04:45] <ForgeAus> adept is your package manager
[04:45] <ForgeAus> in system ... manage packages is probably the best one to run
[04:45] <ForgeAus> (or if thats too hard just use add/remove programs in the k menu)
[04:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> don- k menu--> system
[04:46] <ForgeAus> yeah Dett, sorry I jumped ahead a few steps
[04:46] <don> I just reallized that I t does not understand either
[04:46] <ForgeAus> or you could type in console sudo adept_manager
[04:46] <jup2> hi
[04:47] <jup2> i installed this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+with+Suse+Kickoff+Edgy+Elf+6.10?content=50240
[04:47] <jup2> but i cant get it work
[04:47] <jup2> it is not in add aplet :P
[04:47] <ForgeAus> um what is it?
[04:47] <ForgeAus> (is it like a start menu?)
[04:47] <jup2> yes
[04:47] <ForgeAus> it might be a kbfx theme or something
[04:47] <ForgeAus> so you might need kbfx first
[04:48] <jup2> aha
[04:48] <ForgeAus> and that is an applet for kicker
[04:48] <jhutchins> jup2: Any documentation come with it?
[04:48] <jup2> its a deb file
[04:48] <ForgeAus> deb is just the install package
[04:48] <jup2> yes
[04:48] <jup2> how to install kbfx?
[04:48] <ForgeAus> in adept
[04:49] <ForgeAus> its there (if you have the right repositories, assuming its not in the main one... )
[04:49] <ForgeAus> !kbfx
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats interesting
[04:49] <Yorokobi> !info kbfx
[04:49] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[04:49] <ForgeAus> anyhow its a kmenu (like start menu for windows users) replacement
[04:50] <icecruncher> jup2: did you read everyting to the bottom of the page?
[04:50] <jhutchins> Is there an apt equivalent of rpm -qd <package>?
[04:50] <jup2> ?
[04:50] <ForgeAus> whats the qd mean?
[04:51] <icecruncher> jup2: 3 post from the bottom
[04:51] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: Lists any documentation included in the package.
[04:51] <jup2> ehm i have kbfx now
[04:51] <icecruncher> sorru, top
[04:51] <icecruncher> k
[04:51] <ForgeAus> kewl.. um not that I'm aware of
[04:51] <ForgeAus> but then I'm no apt officionado
[04:52] <mindspin> hi, what's the command to detect the UUID of an USB device?
[04:52] <jup2> how du i edit kbfx to use the new skin?
[04:52] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, debs usually have <package>-doc for documentation. Otherwise, all you get is some readmes and licensure in /usr/share/doc/<package>
[04:52] <ericsson> Anyone got NTFS 3G driver working in feisty?
[04:52] <Jucato> !uuid | mindspin
[04:52] <ubotu> mindspin: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:53] <mindspin> thanks
[04:54] <ForgeAus> dpkg -c lists contents
[04:54] <Yorokobi> jup2, use the KBFX Configurator it Kmenu -> Settings
[04:54] <ForgeAus> and -I shows info
[04:55] <ericsson> I've added an NTFS formatted drive in the machine (feisty) but I can't mount/see/touch/lick it, any tips?
[04:55] <jup2> but i can install theme in there but my deb file dont work :P
[04:56] <manu_> playmidi and amarok dont play my midifiles, someone can help?
[04:57] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/26708
[04:57] <Moo-> Can someone help me? Where can I find the updgrade tool to updrade to Feisty? Adept said that it downloaded it but I can't find it
[04:58] <jhutchins> !midi | manu_
[04:58] <ubotu> manu_: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:58] <delphine> Moo-: reboot your system
[04:58] <jhutchins> Moo-
[04:58] <delphine> then start with new kernel
[04:58] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[04:58] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:59] <fagin> _4strO: I have figured ot how to rip single tracks with K3b now, and also how to encode them with mp3. Thanks again for your help.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: If you follow the link above to the Feisty page, it will tell you what to do.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: You need to add a special repo if you have kde 3.5.6 already, otherwise you just update your GUI Package tool.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Moo-: It should offer a system upgrade.
[05:00] <manu_> jhutchins what shall i do?
[05:00] <manu_> i only want to play mid files
[05:00] <manu_> via playmidi and amarok
[05:00] <jhutchins> manu_: Have you read the link ubotu sent you?
[05:00] <jup2> i can use k-menu and kbfx-menu  but the suse one i still cant get work :(
[05:00] <manu_> jhutchins yes its about server and instruments and hardware... but thats not my aim i think?
[05:00] <Moo-> jhutchins: It offered it, I downloaded it and it said that I should run the update-software but I can't find that software from anywhere
[05:00] <Analista_Ucsal> alguem do brasil?
[05:01] <jhutchins> manu_: I think if you follow it's directions and get midi working that way, it will work with amarok as well, but there may be plugins for amarok.
[05:01] <fagin> I noticed that the version of LAME that got installed with the package is 3.96.1. Is there any preferred way I should use to upgrade it to the latest stable version which is 3.97?
[05:01] <Moo-> jhutchins: I also tried full upgrade in adept after that but aplly changes button stays grey
[05:01] <Moo-> apply
[05:02] <manu_> jhutchins and playmidi? i thought i only have to install the program to play these files
[05:02] <_4strO> fagin: it's a pleasure ;)
[05:02] <andrea_> ciao a tutti
[05:02] <andrea_> siete tutti esperti di kubuntu vero?????????
[05:02] <jhutchins> Moo-: You may have something else running.  Mine didn't download a package - taht's the ubunut method - I just updated the sources in the GUI and it offered to upgrade the system.  After a minute or two it closed adept and started an upgrade, which never completed.
[05:03] <andrea_> c' qualche itraliano????????
[05:03] <andrea_> italiano
[05:03] <fagin> Hi andrea_ English is a good language to use in this channel. :)
[05:03] <manu_> jhutchins in lmms i can play midi files
[05:03] <jhutchins> !it | andrea_
[05:03] <ubotu> andrea_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:03] <Aattila> can anybody help with amarok? it updates database when i try to run it, but then happens nothing and amarok isn't loaded
[05:04] <jhutchins> manu_: If you've read the docs you might want to check in #amarok for more specific information.
[05:07] <ericsson> uhh..my hda1 is commented out in /etc/fstab,  but visible when doing "df" and the disk that would be hdb (NTFS) is not visible anywhere :(
[05:08] <ForgeAus> brb
[05:08] <ForgeAus> no make that bbl
[05:08] <jup2> haha lol stupid me :P  i should just restart then the k-menu change to the .deb i installed :)
[05:08] <Jucato> ericsson: it's commented out in fstab because Kubuntu uses the UUID for your /dev/hda1
[05:09] <icecruncher> how can you check the pgp of a file with the key?
[05:09] <ericsson> Jucato: Ahh, that cleared that out...but I still can't mount the NFTS however :(
[05:09] <Jucato> ericsson: that commented /dev/hda1 belongs to the UUID that's beneath it
[05:09] <Jucato> ericsson: different problem then.. have you tried the Disk & Filesystem module in System Settings?
[05:09] <icecruncher> is there some kind of program for that?
[05:10] <ericsson> Jucato: Nope, first time around with GUI :)
[05:10] <Jucato> :)
[05:10] <Jucato> might make things easier for you
[05:10] <Jucato> !ntfs | ericsson
[05:10] <ubotu> ericsson: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:10] <Jucato> that one too
[05:10] <Farmer> Helo, I'm thinking about moving from Suse 10.0 to Kubuntu, Is there a way to keep my current home folder? cause I'd like to keep my files and only change the dist. I only have one harddrive...
[05:11] <ericsson> Tried following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28mounting%29 but didn't work..
[05:11] <GuHHH> hey! how do i remove the gui at boot (ubuntu logo loading), because it crashes my computer (turns off monitor and cant use keyboard).
[05:12] <Jucato> GuHHH: in your /boot/grub/menu.lst, remove the "splash" and  "quiet" words for the kernel entries
[05:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> Farmer- is your /home folder a separate partition right now?
[05:12] <Farmer> nope
[05:12] <Jucato> like in kernel /boot/vmlinuz-blahblahblah
[05:13] <GuHHH> Jucato thanks :D i will try
[05:13] <Farmer> I only got one partition
[05:13] <ForgeAus> hey jucato....
[05:13] <ForgeAus> guess what?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> I need help again
[05:13] <Jucato> ForgeAus: hahah :)
[05:13] <ForgeAus> my kubuntu's working its just a package I can't seem to configure/install right
[05:13] <ForgeAus> my xfonts seem to be screwed
[05:14] <ericsson> Jucato: would it be advisable to use the NFTS fuse when trying to mount?
[05:14] <Jucato> what is it? don't hold me in suspense :)
[05:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> Farmer- if you have a dvd burner or a memory stick, you could just cut and paste- that's the only way I can think of
[05:14] <Jucato> ericsson: depends if you want to write to the NTFS partition. otherwise it's not necessary
[05:14] <ForgeAus> damn I don't have the errors on me brb running dpkg
[05:15] <ericsson> Jucato: Ok, would need write-access since it's a disk from work, so does fuse goes for feisty as well?
[05:15] <Farmer> no DVD burner :/
[05:15] <ForgeAus> Setting up ttf-opensymbol (2.0.4-0ubuntu5) ...
[05:15] <ForgeAus> "/usr/share/fonts": error scanning
[05:15] <Jucato> ericsson: not absolutely sure how stable fuse or ntfs-3g
[05:15] <ForgeAus> "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts": error scanning
[05:15] <ForgeAus> "/usr/local/share/fonts": error scanning
[05:15] <ericsson> Jucato: me neither :)
[05:15] <ForgeAus> "/home/forge/.fonts": error scanning
[05:16] <ForgeAus> "/var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d": error scanning
[05:16] <speaker__> People!!!
[05:16] <ForgeAus> basically if they get fixed it should install
[05:16] <speaker__> How to install wine?
[05:16] <ForgeAus> ie, this won't happen:
[05:16] <ForgeAus> dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):
[05:16] <ForgeAus>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 5
[05:16] <ForgeAus> speaker use adept
[05:16] <Jucato> !paste | ForgeAus
[05:16] <ubotu> ForgeAus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:17] <ForgeAus> (under kmenu -> system -> manage packages
[05:17] <ForgeAus> its not large
[05:17] <Jucato> ForgeAus: 5 lines isn't?
[05:17] <speaker__> Adept can't find it/
[05:17] <ForgeAus> its just a few font folder references basically the same error
[05:17] <ForgeAus> thing is I did a symbolic link to "copy" the folders to where X was complaining about them not being
[05:17] <Jucato> still... more than 2 or 3 lines, you should use pastebin
[05:17] <ForgeAus> and it seemed to have fix things for a while
[05:18] <Jucato> but anyway... no idea :(
[05:18] <ericsson> Jucato: ui, now something went wrong! My USB-stick is listed twice, the hdb disk is now visible but it shows as 4kb big ;)
[05:18] <ForgeAus> thats prolly what cased the "error" message right?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> would you rather I'd have pasted all the openoffice.org packages that DIDN'T install after it?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> (because ttf-opensymbol is a dependency of them)
[05:20] <Jucato> O.o
[05:20] <ForgeAus> ie. I gave you the abridged vers
[05:20] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a doesn't do anything?
[05:20] <ForgeAus> it does
[05:20] <ForgeAus> and thats what the errors I get from it
[05:20] <ForgeAus> can't seem to get past the ttf-opensymbol package
[05:21] <Jucato> sudo apt-get -f install?
[05:21] <ForgeAus> ok
[05:21] <ForgeAus> same problem
[05:22] <Jucato> :(
[05:22] <ForgeAus> explains it differently tho
[05:22] <ForgeAus> all the right files are there... its annoying
[05:23] <marcreichelt> hiho
[05:23] <marcreichelt> I'm trying to use Beryl with an NVIDIA graphics card
[05:23] <ForgeAus> and?
[05:23] <marcreichelt> (3D mode is enabled correctly)
[05:23] <marcreichelt> the window decoration does not show up
[05:23] <ForgeAus> do you have aquamarine?
[05:24] <marcreichelt> yes
[05:24] <ForgeAus> (emeryld is another one, but aquamarine gives you kde decorators)
[05:24] <marcreichelt> neither emerald nor aquamarine work
[05:24] <ForgeAus> in that case I don't know the problem
[05:24] <ForgeAus> !beryl
[05:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:25] <marcreichelt> I've tried the (German) solution from http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Beryl.html#head-57bdfae90ae59cf7a8e3987c3aa8b674d983bd0e
[05:25] <ForgeAus> its ok I can't read german, at least not to that level
[05:26] <ForgeAus> about the only German sentence I could probably read is something saying my name is: <insert name here> or My hat has three corners...
[05:26] <ForgeAus> thats about the extent of it...
[05:27] <roland> wtf is wrong with kubuntu , i cant acces /  in konqueror ?
[05:27] <stdin> marcreichelt: you need the option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" in your "Device" section of xorg.conf
[05:27] <stdin> marcreichelt: and make sure you are using the default depth of 24
[05:27] <ForgeAus> which is in /etc/X11/
[05:27] <stdin> roland: dapper?
[05:27] <roland> stdin: edgy
[05:27] <stdin> !hidden | roland
[05:28] <mcreichelt> stdin: all done
[05:28] <ForgeAus> I don't see why you can't it hsould work
[05:28] <ubotu> roland: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:28] <stdin> mcreichelt: there was a thread on it in the kubuntu-users list, so that's where I got that info from
[05:28] <stdin> mcreichelt: just restart X now
[05:28] <ForgeAus> I'm using edgy and I managed to get to / no problem
[05:29] <roland> upgrading from kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 is a good idea ? its clean and it happens safely right ? or do there remain junk files and the system would be slower when upgraded than when installed from 7.04 cd
[05:29] <roland> ?
[05:29] <Jucato> ForgeAus: but do you see all the root folders?
[05:29] <stdin> ForgeAus: it was hidden in dapper
[05:29] <ForgeAus> um I probably turned hiding off or something
[05:29] <ForgeAus> yeah I do see everything
[05:29] <stdin> ForgeAus: no, it was edgy, not dapper :p
[05:29] <ForgeAus> even root folders I just cant execute things I don't have permission for
[05:30] <Jucato> ForgeAus: if you have Show hidden folders enabled, you'll see it
[05:30] <Jucato> you'll see them I mean
[05:30] <ForgeAus> probably do...
[05:30] <ForgeAus> so why don't you say to roland to put on show hidden folders?
[05:30] <manu_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+bug/75271 what to do? :'(
[05:30] <roland> i did
[05:30] <roland> i see now all
[05:30] <ForgeAus> feisty is nice roland
[05:31] <ForgeAus> dunno much about the upgrade process
[05:31] <mcreichelt> stdin: no, that doesn't work :(
[05:31] <ForgeAus> I havn't as yet been through it
[05:31] <roland> and i dont like fonts in konqueror
[05:31] <mcreichelt> but at least Beryl does not crash
[05:31] <roland> they are retarded
[05:31] <mcreichelt> only the window decoration fails to load
[05:32] <ForgeAus> mc thats strange, ask the beryl people they might know
[05:32] <stdin> manu_: is the module snd_seq loaded?
[05:32] <ForgeAus> (#ubuntu-effects and I think theres an #xgl)
[05:33] <stdin> and a #beryl
[05:33] <ForgeAus> ahh yes that one would make sense
[05:34] <roland> is kubuntu good for learning linux for a sysadmin or its too user friendly for this ? i need to do most things by cli
[05:34] <netshare> hi, how can i make my kubuntu 6.10 so that it can write my NTFS partitions? just because i would like to download when im on linux, but my store partition is ntfs
[05:34] <ForgeAus> neither roland
[05:34] <roland> ForgeAus ok then what should i use
[05:35] <roland> for learning linux the unix way
[05:35] <ForgeAus> you can use kubuntu for it
[05:35] <ash211> !ntfs-3g | netshare
[05:35] <ubotu> netshare: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:35] <roland> no nifty guis
[05:35] <roland> o
[05:35] <roland> ok
[05:35] <ForgeAus> um if you don't want guis, you could have installed the server version
[05:35] <stdin> roland: just because there is a gui, doesn't mean you have to use it
[05:35] <ForgeAus> or got something like gentoo ...
[05:35] <roland> su returned error when i click edit as root on a file
[05:35] <roland> why
[05:36] <ForgeAus> you can install the server packages anyway even into desktop kubuntu probably
[05:36] <ForgeAus> at least I think so
[05:36] <roland> i can just compile what server packages i need from source
[05:36] <roland> its the right way for me
[05:36] <ForgeAus> roland su? hmmm mostly using cli use sudo
[05:36] <DrNickRiviera> i've had fairly bad experiences with upgrading kubuntu, rather than reinstalling it
[05:36] <DrNickRiviera> has this gotten any better with feisty?
[05:37] <netshare> this ntf-3g is trustable? so it wont mess with my partitions? iwouldnt like to broke my ntfs harddisks
[05:37] <ForgeAus> DrNick theres a tool to do it
[05:37] <ForgeAus> so I'd hope so
[05:37] <tuco> Guys is there some sort of cleaner for temp files..recycle bin and stuff? A bit like CCleaner for windows?
[05:37] <stdin> DrNickRiviera: the only known upgrade issue (Edgy -> Feisty) is that you have to remove samba first, then reinstall it
[05:37] <aldin> i wan to backup my "/" partition is it "smart" to excude proc & sys dirs? sudo tar cvpf backup.tar --exclude=/backup.tar --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/media /
[05:37] <ForgeAus> netshare, nothing is certain but it should be fairly safe
[05:38] <roland> roland@summer-desktop:~$ sudo -i
[05:38] <roland> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 28 21:20:14 2007
[05:38] <manu_> stdin:
[05:38] <manu_> manu@kubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep snd_seq
[05:38] <manu_> snd_seq_device          9868  1 snd_rawmidi
[05:38] <manu_> snd                    58372  15 saa7134_alsa,snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[05:38] <manu_> is that right?
[05:38] <ForgeAus> I'd recommend you using windows to modify your NTFS partition but ntfs-3g is pretty good these days...
[05:39] <stdin> manu_: I'll show you what I have, but it looks like some aren't loaded
[05:39] <manu_> stdin: would be nice to get midi working :)
[05:39] <roland> roland@summer-desktop:~$ sudo -i
[05:39] <roland> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 28 21:20:14 2007
[05:39] <roland> what is this
[05:39] <stdin> roland: try "sudo -K" (uppercase K)
[05:40] <roland> sudo -K
[05:40] <roland> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 28 21:20:14 2007
[05:41] <plex> hi. how can i change the keyboard layout in Kubuntu?
[05:41] <stdin> roland: just reboot then, that will fix it
[05:41] <roland> ok
[05:41] <stdin> manu_: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/104
[05:41] <tyfon_> sudo -k should work aswell
[05:41] <tyfon_> or should work better
[05:41] <tyfon_> since it doesnt require password
[05:41] <stdin> plex: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[05:42] <sdf_> hi my adept don t open?
[05:42] <sdf_> and add/remove manager don t open
[05:42] <sdf_> what can i do?
[05:42] <plex> stdin: i didn't find it in there =(
[05:43] <stdin> plex: ohh, sorry, it's in Regional & Language now
[05:43] <netshare> ForgeAus what do you mean, modify ntfs in windows?
[05:43] <plex> oh thnx
[05:43] <ForgeAus> if your going to write to NTFS its recommended to use windows to do it
[05:43] <sdf_> any one help me to know what is the problem?
[05:44] <stdin> sdf_: try running "kdesu adept_manager" in konsole and look for errors
[05:44] <ForgeAus> but ntfs-3g is mostly safe these days I havn't heard of many people with problems with it....
[05:44] <manu_> stdin: and what shall i do
[05:45] <ForgeAus> actually it'd be interesting to find out about Vista and Ntfs under linux, apaprently XP can't even read Vista drives
[05:45] <stdin> manu_: try loading some of those other modules, like snd-seq-oss
[05:45] <ForgeAus> I wonder if Linux can???
[05:45] <netshare> ForgeAus i need ntfs writing under linux, because of torrent
[05:45] <sdf_> stdin:i had X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:45] <sdf_> Major opcode:  145
[05:46] <stdin> sdf_: that's normal, ignore that
[05:46] <Jucato> sdf_: ignore those. harmless errors
[05:46] <stdin> manu_: and load snd-seq manually too
[05:46] <sdf_>  Minor opcode:  3
[05:46] <sdf_>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:46] <sdf_> Failed to open device
[05:46] <ForgeAus> netshare you lost me I thought torrents were files you downloaded to get other files through p2p...
[05:46] <sdf_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:46] <sdf_>   Major opcode:  145
[05:46] <sdf_>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:46] <sdf_>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:46] <sdf_> Failed to open device
[05:46] <stdin> !paste
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <sdf_> this all errors that i had
[05:47] <ForgeAus> sdf just comment out the stylus, cursor and other device thats for tablets
[05:47] <ForgeAus> in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <Filthpig> sdf_: what are you trying to run?
[05:47] <sdf_> i want to open adept
[05:47] <sdf_> don topen
[05:48] <manu_> stdin sudo modprobe snd-seq?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> I don't think the X error bad device will stop Adept from running
[05:48] <stdin> manu_: yeah
[05:48] <sdf_> stdin:help
[05:48] <roland> kubuntu beryl effects work relatively stable ?
[05:48] <roland> im using ati
[05:48] <netshare> ForgeAus: yes they are but, when i download a huge file,( or a smaller, doesnt matter) than i have to download it to an ntfs partition, because my ext3 partition is only 5 GB
[05:49] <stdin> sdf_: any other output ?
[05:49] <sdf_> no
[05:49] <sdf_> the all you saw
[05:49] <ericsson> For reference:  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows/ ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 in /etc/fstab would make my drive available (if anyone would like to know)
[05:49] <ForgeAus> IC... ok well then you don't really have an option netshare, anyhow ntfs-3g is pretty safe I don't think you'll have a problem... I just won't go as far as to guarantee it thats all
[05:50] <netshare> ForgeAus: the seeding may work, because linux can read ntfs
[05:50] <ForgeAus> ericcson wouldn't you use user instead of defaults?
[05:50] <ericsson> ForgeAus: don't know the difference to be honest with you :)
[05:50] <ForgeAus> (I was just thinking about permissions user is less restricted in that way from a normal (non-root) user...)
[05:51] <manu_> stdin: ok i made this modprobe an all looks like your file
[05:51] <sdf_> help
[05:51] <netshare> anyway, i wait untik my dl is finished ,and only after that, im going to try to install somehow ntfs-3g
[05:51] <ericsson> ForgeAus: Yeah, true true...doesn't matter in my case here though, just and old non-important drive from work ;)
[05:51] <sdf_> help
[05:52] <ForgeAus> but I guess since its not likely to mount in a directory that isn't in /home/<user>/ its probably got permission issues anyway....
[05:52] <manu_> stdin:  but only the error doesnt appear, i cant here anything and playbackmidi says no playback device found
[05:52] <manu_> but cant open /dev/seq is gone
[05:52] <netshare> sdf_ whats wrong with adept?
[05:52] <ForgeAus> wrong with it? nothing that I'm aware of
[05:52] <sdf_> don topen
[05:53] <sdf_> don t open
[05:53] <sdf_> also add/remove program
[05:53] <netshare> 6.10 or 7.04 ?
[05:53] <stdin> manu_: I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo to get it working before
[05:53] <sdf_> netshare:what do you mean??
[05:54] <netshare> sdf_ you got kbuntu dgy or feisty?
[05:54] <sdf_> i don tknow
[05:54] <netshare> edgy efty or feisty fawn?
[05:54] <stdin> !version
[05:54] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:54] <sdf_> how can i know?
[05:54] <manu_> stdin: hm i loaded the modules and have 2 programs kmid and playmidi, and now install the other program? then i would have sound?
[05:54] <stdin> sdf_: look at ubotu's message
[05:55] <manu_> manu@kubuntu:~$ playmidi Karma_Chamelion.mid
[05:55] <manu_> Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi Iwai
[05:55] <manu_> This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
[05:55] <manu_> For details please see the file COPYING.
[05:55] <manu_> playmidi: No playback device found.
[05:55] <Jucato> !pastebin | manu_
[05:55] <ubotu> manu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <stdin> manu_: you should do, just add the extra modules to /etc/modules too
[05:55] <Jucato> manu_: please use a pastebin when you are pasting lines of output
[05:55] <manu_> Jucato: ok
[05:55] <stdin> manu_: the app TiMidity++ worked here
[05:56] <manu_> stdin: and kmid?
[05:56] <stdin> manu_: yeah
[05:56] <sdf_> stdin: i had Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:56] <manu_> stdin: and why dowsnt it work here?
[05:56] <stdin> manu_: you set TiMidity++ as a midi server and kmid connects to it
[05:56] <sdf_> Codename:       dapper
[05:57] <tuco> Where can I find a widget bar like the one found in mac os and co?
[05:57] <Jucato> tuco: widget bar? you mean the dock bar at the bottom?
[05:58] <sdf_> stdin:are you help me?>
[05:58] <manu_> stdin: so i need this prpogram? and the others are just a gui?
[05:58] <tuco> something like that Jucato yes
[05:58] <stdin> manu_: that's how I had it workinh
[05:58] <Jucato> !info kxdocker
[05:58] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[05:58] <Jucato> tuco: ^^^
[05:58] <tuco> Ah thank you
[05:59] <sdf_> stdin:are you here?
[05:59] <stdin> sdf_: I don't know why it's not working, try reinstalling it with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install adept adept-manager"
[05:59] <ForgeAus> I like kooldock better
[06:00] <manu_> stdin: why is freepats needed?
[06:00] <manu_> its 30mb big
[06:00] <manu_> ^^
[06:00] <tuco> Will play with that then. Thanks Jucato :-)
[06:01] <tuco> Kooldock....oh what os that? :-)
[06:01] <tuco> is that sorry
[06:01] <ForgeAus> Linux
[06:01] <ForgeAus> its an alternative to kxdocker
[06:01] <stdin> manu_: it's not needed
[06:01] <stdin> manu_: it's just some samples
[06:01] <imagine> kxdocker is unmaintained yes?
[06:01] <Jucato> tuco: it's also a dock app
[06:02] <ForgeAus> either way they're both macOS-style programs to give you dock-bar functionality
[06:02] <manu_> stdin: apt-get install timidity wants that
[06:02] <tuco> which is the best then?
[06:02] <Jucato> imagine: kxdocker's author is developing something for kde4
[06:02] <imagine> Jucato: oh ok
[06:02] <roland> anyone knows if there is such a thing as  a stable operating system (for good), and that you can relatively trust that it runs fine ?
[06:02] <imagine> roland: Windows 95
[06:02] <roland> everything i used was far from satisfacatory
[06:02] <ForgeAus> rofl imagine
[06:02] <tuco> yes Roland but it doesnt exist yet :-)
[06:03] <roland> there is no good operating system for me, and i am incredibly bored
[06:03] <stdin> manu_: shouldn't, it's only a reccommended package "Recommends: freepats"
[06:03] <roland> i don tknow what to install
[06:03] <ForgeAus> howa bout something like OpenStep?...
[06:03] <ForgeAus> is Rhapsody Stable?
[06:03] <imagine> roland: what is a good OS for you? you seem to be picky
[06:03] <tuco> Kxdocker doesn't want to launch :-(
[06:03] <ForgeAus> its got very few supporting apps for it...
[06:03] <roland> imagine: first, it needs to be unix-based
[06:03] <ForgeAus> BSD
[06:04] <ForgeAus> PC-BSD is kinda nice
[06:04] <roland> second, it needs to be tolerant to unexpected power outages and be able to mount the filesystems no matter what
[06:04] <ForgeAus> in the trimmings-aspect of it at least
[06:04] <roland> i hate pc-bsd :)
[06:04] <ForgeAus> you need a UPS for that...
[06:04] <ForgeAus> (that is power outage tolerance)
[06:04] <delfina> pls help: i've been update to kubuntu 7.04 but system don't recognize 'sudo' password
[06:04] <rvd> arh! I accidently closed my tray-panel where my "minimized to tray"-applications are hidden.. How do i reenable it??
[06:05] <ForgeAus> the whole point of them is so you can do a graceful shutdown
[06:05] <roland> i need a well designed filesystem that can whitstand raping from any source
[06:05] <imagine> roland: hmmm... Unexpetected power outages? wtf ? do you buy a car that comes with unexpected gaz outages tolerance?
[06:05] <tuco> Damn...Jucato Kxdocker is not launching!
[06:05] <imagine> roland: Slackware maybe?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> Roland you need raid for that
[06:05] <ForgeAus> level 4+ preferably
[06:06] <ForgeAus> (parity + mirror at least)
[06:06] <Kermit> hey guys
[06:06] <delfina> pls help: i've been update to kubuntu 7.04 but system don't recognize 'sudo' password
[06:06] <roland> ForgeAus : for example after i cold-rebooted now kubuntu (pushed power button after the OS seemed to hang when i told it to shutdown ) , after i rebooted it failed to mount filesystems and some process died
[06:06] <roland> and some /proc error
[06:06] <roland> i need something oposite of this
[06:06] <Kermit> my kubuntu install keeps locking at 15% after i click 'install' after setting up everything
[06:07] <ForgeAus> ouch kermit
[06:07] <Kermit> any1 seen an error like this?
[06:07] <Kermit> yeah :/
[06:07] <roland> no matter when i turn off power to my system(unclean shutdown) the filesystem can deal with this
[06:07] <Kermit> i think its something with the hdd
[06:07] <rvd> roland: I have a problem with shutting down as well? My screen just blacks out, and i have to shut it down holding the power-button
[06:07] <Kermit> how do i format the hdd in the live environment?
[06:07] <ForgeAus> linux is designed to be shut down properly
[06:07] <roland> rvd: thats exactly what happened
[06:07] <manu_> stdin: ok timidity FILE works :) but playmidi and kmid dont
[06:07] <rvd> and it's everytime..
[06:07] <Kermit> fdisk and just deleting the partitions doesnt help
[06:08] <rvd> think it started after i updated from feisty beta to the released edition??
[06:08] <ForgeAus> unexpected power outages don't affect a UPS .... thats the whole point of them to run on battery power in case the power goes out
[06:08] <roland> ok, now, i need it to be fast and lightweight, preferably a unix that does not use gnome/kde/etc but a proprietary X server with cde or motif window managers, so i can be sure
[06:08] <baskitcaise> if you are having probs shutting down have a look at the sysrq key functions
[06:08] <ForgeAus> but you only get limited life out of them
[06:08] <fagin> How do I install the gnu compiler? Is there a package?
[06:08] <rvd> baskitcaise: ?? Don't know what that is?
[06:08] <baskitcaise> these allow yoy to shutdown gracfully even if your kernel is stuck ( sometimes)
[06:08] <ForgeAus> fagin isn't it installed by default?
[06:08] <tyfon_> fagin: build-essensials
[06:08] <ForgeAus> !gcc
[06:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:09] <manu_> stdin: i have installed also the samples, where are they?
[06:09] <Kermit> !formating hdd live cd
[06:09] <rvd> baskitcaise: where do i check them?
[06:09] <baskitcaise> it is a list of key strokes to umount and sync disks and such, built in the kernel
[06:09] <fagin> tyfon_: Thank you
[06:09] <rvd> hmm, ok
[06:09] <rvd> how do i enable my system-tray?? I accidentally "killed" it?
[06:09] <baskitcaise> you can find better info on google, try the linux side @ www.google.co./linux
[06:09] <roland> i miss my vista desktop and experience ;-( and all the professional commercial apps :(
[06:10] <ForgeAus> ouch!
[06:10] <baskitcaise> whoops sorry midssed the .com there should be google.com/linux
[06:10] <ForgeAus> Vista? yuck!
[06:10] <tuco> Vista Hurghhh!
[06:10] <ForgeAus> XP was kewl but Vista?... are you serious?
[06:10] <roland> whats wrong with vista ?
[06:10] <stdin> manu_: look at "dpkg -L freepats" to find out
[06:10] <tuco> The name first
[06:10] <ForgeAus> its... um... not as compatible as it needs to b
[06:10] <baskitcaise> there is documentation in the kernel source if you have it installed
[06:10] <roland> i like the name
[06:10] <ForgeAus> also full of extra annoyances
[06:11] <tuco> too heavy...too much for nothing.
[06:11] <ForgeAus> me too namewise
[06:11] <snowstorm> where can I download w32codecs from?
[06:11] <ForgeAus> its also unneccessarily chunky
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> !codecs
[06:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <baskitcaise> for instance to sync the disks you can press Alt+sysrq+s ( sysrq=print screen )
[06:11] <rvd> baskitcaise: think i'll check it out later hehe.. All i want now, is to get my tray back :(
[06:11] <tuco> Actually the only thing in Vista is Directx 10 which you can get for xp :-0
[06:11] <roland> yeah but it has a cool gui..
[06:11] <ForgeAus> I must admit there are a few things that are good in it
[06:11] <ForgeAus> like the Aero look
[06:11] <ForgeAus> the Dreamscene wallpaper functionality
[06:12] <ForgeAus> and a few other minor things...
[06:12] <baskitcaise> sorry rvd just been out and lost track of threads :-)
[06:12] <tuco> I can't get dxdocker to launch myself...so
[06:12] <roland> what os'es beside ubuntu/kubuntu you guys run ?
[06:12] <ForgeAus> rocketdock is the XP/Vista MacOS dock app
[06:12] <snowstorm> I am looking for an alternative download place for w32codecs because downloading and installing from medibuntu does not work
[06:12] <tuco> yep
[06:12] <rvd> baskitcaise: hehe ok.. I don't wan't to go experimenting with the kernel at the moment.. Kindda nooby still hehe
[06:12] <jussi01> !offtopic | roland
[06:12] <ubotu> roland: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:12] <ForgeAus> me? I run 3 or 4
[06:13] <roland> ForgeAus wich one s
[06:13] <ForgeAus> Kbuntu, XP, (Vmware, with Haiku, AROS... PCBSD, and some more... )
[06:13] <ForgeAus> mostly dualboot between XP and Kubuntu (admittedly I sepnd more time in XP tho)
[06:13] <roland> should i try sco unixware?
[06:13] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about sco unixware
[06:13] <tuco> I have Vista...only run it to use Reason.
[06:14] <ForgeAus> REason?
[06:14] <ForgeAus> whats that?
[06:14] <rvd> Doesn't anyone know how to enable the system tray?? Come on, am I the ONLY one in here who accidentally removed it???
[06:14] <ForgeAus> (I assume you mean a specific application)
[06:14] <snowstorm> is there only one repo for w32codecs, ie medibuntu?
[06:14] <rvd> tuco: did u try to run it through wine??
[06:14] <ForgeAus> rvd isn't it an applet?
[06:14] <manu_> stdin: No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 50 - this instrument will not be heard
[06:14] <jussi01> rvd: right click on the panel and add notification area
[06:14] <tuco> http://www.propellerheads.se/ Forge :-)
[06:14] <LjL> rvd, perhaps right click on the panel and add the applet?
[06:14] <ForgeAus> you should be able to add it back on the pannel by rightclicking kicker and add applet
[06:14] <ForgeAus> system tray
[06:14] <Jucato> rvd: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray
[06:14] <manu_> what dows this mean, it differs from midi to midi file
[06:14] <tuco> Nah rvd why?
[06:15] <Jucato> jussi01: that's for GNOME :)
[06:15] <jussi01> Jucato: lol, well almost... :D
[06:15] <korobase> Hi all.I have a question.
[06:15] <rvd> tuco: I'm only dual-OSing for Reason as well, so i was interrested :)
[06:15] <jussi01> korobase: go ahead!!
[06:15] <ForgeAus> whats reason?
[06:15] <tuco> check the link Forge
[06:15] <korobase> How to show some infomation about a deb package which I have not installed?
[06:15] <rvd> Jucato: weee, thanks :)
[06:16] <tuco> I was reading somebody made it work, but it was instable and was lacking a few instruments...
[06:16] <korobase> How to show any infomation about a deb package which I have not installed?
[06:16] <rvd> and u other peeps as well :)
[06:16] <fagin> No question, I just find t strange with a unix like system without an accompanying compiler. I guess there some idea behind that that I'm not aware of.
[06:16] <rvd> tuco: ohh okay :) nice
[06:16] <Jucato> rvd: no problem
[06:16] <ForgeAus> oh great, I can't seem to browse
[06:16] <ForgeAus> well its working, barely...
[06:16] <rvd> I'm hoping yo VMWARE it one day, when i get a more kick-ass machine :)
[06:16] <LjL> korobase, "apt-cache show packagename", "apt-cache policy packagename"
[06:16] <Jucato> fagin: just install "build-essential" and you're ok
[06:16] <sybux> hi
[06:16] <ForgeAus> vmware is kewl
[06:16] <tuco> I need a dock guys...ksdocker doesn't want to launch :-9
[06:16] <ForgeAus> I recommend the server version
[06:17] <korobase> But the package is in my local disk!
[06:17] <ForgeAus> (but not right now under linux until the FUSE mounter is built...
[06:17] <roland> i need a mental institute i have a operating system related sickenss :((
[06:17] <jussi01> tuco: kooldock
[06:17] <sybux> I need help with my external USB drive. it's listed in lsusb but it does not mount
[06:17] <roland> i need to install something all the time
[06:17] <fagin> Jucato: Thanks I'm in the process of doing just that thanks to you nice folks here.
[06:17] <ForgeAus> (to mount virtual disks)
[06:17] <sybux> which command can I use ?
[06:17] <LjL> korobase: then "man dpkg"
[06:17] <tuco> installed but is nowhere to be seen
[06:17] <jussi01> tuco: preess alt+f2 and type kooldock it will then load
[06:18] <Jucato> korobase: dpkg -I packagename.deb (that's a capital letter i
[06:18] <stdin> manu_: don't know enough about midi to help with that
[06:18] <tuco> alt + f2 doesn't do anything
[06:19] <jussi01> tuco:  then go to k menu and select run command and type kooldock
[06:19] <korobase> Jucato,Thanks a lot.
[06:19] <stdin> tuco: Kmenu -> Run Command
[06:19] <manu_> stdin:  ok my problem is that i can play sounds with tmidity but not with kmid or playmidi
[06:19] <manu_> i started a server
[06:19] <tuco> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:19] <ForgeAus> kooldock is kewl :)
[06:19] <Jucato> tuco: by any chance are you using Beryl or Copmiz?
[06:19] <tuco> will it start by default?
[06:19] <tuco> none Jucato
[06:19] <Jucato> compiz*
[06:19] <Jucato> ah ok
[06:19] <tuco> apparently my X1400 is not compatible with Beryl!
[06:19] <jussi01> tuco: it should... mine does...
[06:20] <manu_> Player :: Couldn't play !
[06:20] <ForgeAus> ATI yeah its problematic
[06:20] <ForgeAus> in Feisty it might be nicer
[06:21] <Ace2016> hi all
[06:21] <tuco> aTI is a mega pain in the heavy arse
[06:21] <Ace2016> how do i increase the mouse sensitivity?
[06:21] <ForgeAus> well actually ATI is great under XP at least for me
[06:21] <rvd> Ace2016: System settings, keyboard mouse :)
[06:21] <ForgeAus> its just the drivers and linux have issues
[06:21] <ForgeAus> (legal FOSS vs proprietary ones)
[06:22] <Ace2016> rvd: is that for xorg? or just while in kde? i want the mosue to be more sensitive in games
[06:22] <ForgeAus> not enough companies that use linux seem to be able to see past redhat yet!
[06:22] <Ace2016> mouse*
[06:22] <ForgeAus> or other RPM based distros
[06:22] <rvd> can't u set that in the game then?
[06:22] <ForgeAus> like SUSE
[06:22] <atidem> re
[06:22] <rvd> Ace2016: not sure if it saves it for Xorg though??
[06:23] <Ace2016> rvd: its ut2004 i made it higher but it didn't seem to work, anyway i just got the mouse, maybe the batteries need a good recharge
[06:23] <rvd> Ace2016: hehe, try that for starters then ;)
[06:23] <^TangoDev^> how can i overcome it ??the GRUB is now in my system hanging after ahowing "GRUB loading stage1.5"
[06:23] <Ace2016> rvd: already tried that one
[06:24] <jussi01> !grub
[06:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:24] <levi_> Is there a way to browse folder in super User mode?
[06:24] <netshare> does someone know, why isnt opera starting? a few days agi it was fine, but now it loads for a long time and than nothing happens, doesnt appear, i checked all desktops :(
[06:24] <jussi01> levi_: yes, kdesu konqueror
[06:24] <levi_> THANKS
[06:24] <levi_> -caps
[06:25] <rvd> Ace2016: hmm, then i don't know.. U already tried configuration it via KDE right? And it didn't help?
[06:25] <levi_> Command not found
[06:25] <Ace2016> netshare: try running opera from konsole
[06:26] <Ace2016> rvd: are you talking about the sensitivity or the buttons of the old mouse? if its with the old mouse, i never knew kde could do that
[06:26] <Ace2016> levi_: try kdesu konqueror
[06:26] <levi_> nvm I spelled it wrong
[06:26] <levi_> it worked
[06:26] <levi_> Thanks
[06:26] <jussi01> levi_: :D
[06:26] <Ace2016> lol
[06:27] <levi_> now i can write to my slave disk hopefully
[06:27] <Ace2016> its all about coppy and paste ;)
[06:27] <Ace2016> levi_: where is the salve disk mounted and what filetype is it in
[06:27] <levi_> No no I can get onto it and read form it
[06:28] <levi_> bu i have permission errors
[06:28] <Ace2016> levi_: you can set it up so that you don't have to use kdesu konqueror to write to it
[06:28] <levi_> which i just changed in properities
[06:28] <Ace2016> oh ok
[06:28] <levi_> I think I just did ;D
[06:28] <levi_> thanks
[06:29] <levi_> but lets test this theory of mine .
[06:30] <levi_> To storage mediaaaa AWAY!
[06:30] <levi_> Sweet alls good now
[06:30] <stdin> manu_: make sure you set it up to use the right midi port, like this http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5oq1.png
[06:32] <manu_> stdin: i have 2 devices there, none wokrs
[06:32] <manu_> MPU-401
[06:32] <manu_> and midi through
[06:33] <stdin> manu_: make sure timidity is running as a server (ie with: timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os1l -s 44100)
[06:34] <manu_> stdin: jap
[06:34] <manu_> running
[06:35] <sdf> how can i enter to storage media  from terminal
[06:35] <sdf> when i want to enter desktop we write         cd ~/Desktop
[06:35] <tyfon_> cd /media
[06:35] <manu_> sdf: cd /media
[06:35] <manu_> sdf ls -a
[06:39] <sdf> i have theme in desktop and i was try to install it from terminal and i had  checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:39] <sdf> how can i solve this problem?
[06:40] <sdf> manu:help please
[06:40] <stdin> !xincludes | sdf
[06:40] <ubotu> sdf: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[06:40] <Jucato> xorg-dev mostly
[06:40] <sdf> ok
[06:41] <sdf> i will try
[06:41] <stdin> !compile
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:41] <sdf> ubot what is the x include?
[06:42] <Jucato> sdf: X includes refers to the header files and libraries that you need to compile what you are trying to compile
[06:42] <jussi01> !ubotu | sdf
[06:42] <ubotu> sdf: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:42] <stdin> sdf: like bot said,  you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[06:43] <sdf> i don t finnd xlibs but i found pxlib-dev???
[06:43] <sdf> what do i do?
[06:44] <Jucato> sdf: just try xorg-dev. usually that's all you need
[06:44] <mula> !nvidia
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <mula> !Logitech
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <korobase> Hi.all. How to recreate the lib cache.
[06:45] <korobase> ?
[06:46] <sdf> jukato: i found xlib-dev  it must be to install xlib-static-dev and xorg-dev???
[06:46] <jussi01> korobase: what do you mean?
[06:47] <stdin> sdf: just install xorg-dev
[06:47] <korobase> I have a .lib file copied into the /usr/lib.But my program can't find it,How can I do then?
[06:47] <Maruko> hi
[06:47] <zerothis> how would i go about repeatedly sending a long series of keystokes to a minimised app while conuing to use my computer to run other apps?
[06:47] <Maruko> how can I install XFCE on my kubuntu  and then be able to choose which DE use when I start my session?
[06:47] <korobase> jussi01.Can you help me?
[06:47] <stdin> korobase: I think you just run ldconfig
[06:48] <stdin> korobase: with sudo
[06:48] <Maruko> hey how can I enter the Italian IRC?
[06:48] <korobase> any parameter to add?
[06:48] <mischko_> I have installed the source version of python setuptools and now my package management is always throwing errors.
[06:48] <stdin> Maruko: the Italian Kubuntu channel?
[06:49] <stdin> korobase: no
[06:49] <Maruko> yes
[06:49] <stdin> !it
[06:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:49] <Maruko> sorry?
[06:49] <mula> i can't find the Restricted Devices Manager
[06:49] <stdin> read ubotu's message
[06:49] <mula> all i found is Adept
[06:49] <Maruko> ciao a tutti
[06:49] <stdin> mula: it's a gnome application
[06:51] <mula> stdin: yep :D now i understand.. ty
[06:51] <sdf> i had   checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not                                                               found. Please check your installation!
[06:51] <sdf> i install xlib-dev only
[06:51] <stdin> sdf: install kde-devel
[06:52] <Maruko> sorry
[06:52] <sdf> stdin:what it is?
[06:52] <stdin> !info kde-devel
[06:52] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:52] <Maruko> I would like to install XFCE and be able to choose which DE to use  (among KDE and XFCE) when I start my session
[06:52] <Maruko> how can I do that?
[06:53] <stdin> Maruko: just install it, KDM will let you choose
[06:53] <pag> Maruko, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <stdin> Maruko: just pick one from the session meny
[06:53] <stdin> *menu
[06:53] <Maruko> sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop?
[06:53] <stdin> Maruko: xubuntu-desktop installs xubuntu (which uses xfce)
[06:54] <Maruko> ok
[06:54] <Maruko> then I will have also the Xubuntu software on my PC
[06:54] <sdf> stdin:i don tfound it
[06:54] <Maruko> can I uninstall it?
[06:54] <sdf> stdin:what do you do?
[06:54] <sdf> stdin:what do i do?
[06:55] <stdin> Maruko: if you don't want the full xubuntu desktop, just install xfce separately
[06:55] <Maruko> yeayh
[06:55] <Maruko> that's what I mean
[06:55] <Maruko> how can I do that?
[06:55] <sdf> any one help
[06:55] <stdin> sdf: it's in universe, enable the universe repo
[06:55] <stdin> !repos | sdf
[06:55] <ubotu> sdf: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:56] <Maruko> @stdin = are u talking to me?
[06:56] <Maruko> I need to look for XFCE on my adept package manager?
[06:56] <sdf> stdin :i can t do this
[06:56] <stdin> Maruko: yeah, it's called xfce4 i think
[06:56] <sdf> stdin :i don t know what are the repositories
[06:56] <Maruko> ok
[06:57] <Jucato> Maruko: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu and http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:57] <stdin> sdf: look at the message from ubotu, the link tells you how to do it
[06:57] <Maruko> will my Kubuntu software run on XFCE?
[06:57] <stdin> Maruko: yeah
[06:57] <jussi01> sdf: go to adept, select file -> manage repositaries -> select all the boxes
[06:57] <Jucato> Maruko: of you can just install xfce4 like what stdin said
[06:59] <Maruko> ok
[06:59] <Maruko> I am downloading xfce4 from Adept
[06:59] <Maruko> than I will have to log out I think, right?
[06:59] <Maruko> then
[07:00] <stdin> to login to xfce, yes
[07:00] <Maruko> ok
[07:00] <alice> hiho, in what lib is qt-language-selector ?
[07:00] <Maruko> I just wanted my system not to take soo much RAM memory everytime it loads
[07:00] <Maruko> now is running on 448 MB of RAM memory
[07:01] <sybux> !wiki mp3
[07:01] <Maruko> Xfce should be ligjhter, right?
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <stdin> Maruko: how much of that is the cache tho?
[07:01] <Maruko> what u mean?
[07:01] <Maruko> where can I get that info?
[07:02] <stdin> Maruko: it's normal to have about 90% of ram in use, most of it is a file cache. You can use ksysguard to look
[07:03] <sybux> can some help me in reading mp3 file une festy please
[07:04] <stdin> sybux: install libxine1-ffmpeg
[07:05] <sybux> stdin: it's already installed
[07:05] <stdin> sybux: what program are you trying to play them in?
[07:06] <Maruko> ok
[07:06] <Maruko> it's working now
[07:06] <manu_> have a problem with kmid, it sends on port 20:0 but timidity  receives @ 128:0 what to do?
[07:07] <Maruko> not as gooooking as  KDE but it's working now
[07:07] <nflava> hey all whats up
[07:07] <mula> !firefox
[07:07] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:07] <nflava> first day in ubantu :)
[07:07] <sybux> stdin: amarok nor kaffine
[07:07] <guhhh> does anyone have a x800?
[07:08] <guhhh> does anyone have a x800 and run beryl?
[07:08] <jussi01> !anyone | guhhh
[07:08] <ubotu> guhhh: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:08] <dennister> hey ppl, here's a new one: i can't follow my own howto!
[07:08] <jussi01> dennister: lol
[07:08] <mula> nflava me too ehhe
[07:08] <Maruko> what is the equivalent of Adept on XFCE?
[07:08] <stdin> sybux: they should both use that package then, have you restarted the applications after installing it?
[07:08] <sybux> stdin: sure
[07:08] <jussi01> Maruko: I think it has synaptic...
[07:09] <jussi01> *think*
[07:09] <guhhh> dennister: u shouldnt be alone :X
[07:09] <stdin> Maruko: that's only xubuntu, not xfce
[07:09] <nflava> i am trying to figure out why i cant change my desktop resolution
[07:09] <nflava> well only 2 settings
[07:09] <stdin> Maruko: xfce comes with nothing by default
[07:09] <stdin> Maruko: just use adept
[07:09] <dennister> lol...the problem is with feisty's treatment of usbfs and sane/xsane...xsane is only giving me one option for a device: the hauppauge tuner
[07:09] <mula> nflava oh. .i knew how to help you... but i forgot :(
[07:09] <guhhh> nflava: u didnt not choose it on xserver configuration
[07:09] <jussi01> !resolution
[07:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:09] <mula> nflava i had this problem with slackware
[07:10] <nflava> well i think its partly due to the fact that i have a voodoo 3 video card?
[07:10] <guhhh> nflava: is ur xorg configured right?
[07:10] <stdin> sybux: can you play any other mp3 fies
[07:10] <stdin> sybux: or do none work?
[07:10] <nflava> no i dont think i have been in xorg yet
[07:10] <guhhh> nflava: resolutions and refresh rates?
[07:11] <nflava> yeah i only have 2 settings
[07:11] <aaroncampbell> Has anyone had problems printing from any specific applications?  Maybe Java based apps?
[07:11] <nflava> 640x480 and 800x600
[07:11] <guhhh> nflava: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <jussi01> nflava: see what the bot said
[07:11] <sybux> stdin: yes, it was my mp3 which was corrupt :)
[07:11] <mula> hey.. after installing the nvidia's driver through Adept, do I still have to run it using sudo....
[07:11] <nflava> yeah i just clicked the link
[07:11] <guhhh> nflava: it must be because u configured the xserver like this when asked
[07:11] <aaroncampbell> I can't seem to print from Zend Studio, but I used to be able to.  It says there are no printers
[07:11] <dennister> i mean i modified fstab, like i've done with edgy and dapper, but adding a line for the usbfs results in it being mounted multiple times, so I deleted it and usbfs is obviously mounted by default in feisty without any indication of that in fstab
[07:11] <stdin> sybux: thought as much
[07:12] <mula> yes i do... lol... brb :D
[07:12] <jussi01> dennister: have you restarted x since?
[07:12] <dennister> anyone know how to get xsane to use a different device than the one it wants to use?
[07:12] <dennister> jussi01: yes...after i put the usbfs line in and after i removed it again
[07:12] <sybux> stdin: thx for help, now I'm able to run my party !!!!
[07:13] <nflava> do i type the commands in the terminal?
[07:13] <stdin> sybux: wooh! :p
[07:13] <guhhh> nflava: sure.
[07:13] <nflava> cool thanks
[07:13] <nflava> im gunna try the re auto dectet of vid card
[07:14] <jussi01> good luck nflava
[07:15] <aaroncampbell> Has anyone had problems printing from any specific applications?  Maybe Java based apps?  I can't seem to print from Zend Studio, but I used to be able to.  It says there are no printers
[07:16] <jussi01> aaroncampbell: what did you do to make this happen? did you install something?
[07:16] <fabiofx> hi..
[07:16] <dennister> anyone for some help changing xsane's device from the tuner to the scanner?
[07:17] <aaroncampbell> jussi01: Not sure, I haven't needed to print from it for a month or two...Lots of updates since then
[07:17] <aaroncampbell> Although, I don't think I installed anything new
[07:17] <wolferine> anyone have a owrking logitech webcam?
[07:17] <fabiofx> how to upgrade from edgy to feisty with kubuntu DVD ?
[07:17] <jussi01> aaroncampbell: I would try reinstalling the print driver
[07:17] <fabiofx> exist any "how-to"?
[07:17] <jussi01> fabiofx: you cant with the live dvd. anly a fresh install
[07:17] <Chrissie> Hi all, I'm using dapper but consider upgrading to feisty. pbm is that I have everyting tweaked the way I liked, playing mp3s and wmv. I've also modified the list of repositories and I've no idea what the standard is. Don't want to mess things up and have to redo it all, because I absolutely don't remember how I did it all.
[07:18] <aaroncampbell> jussi01: it works fine from most other apps (Thunderbird, Firefox, Open Office, etc)
[07:18] <wolferine> Chrissie, its a learning process
[07:18] <fabiofx> jussi01: boot with dvd?
[07:18] <jussi01> aaroncampbell: yeah, but give it a reinstall anyway - it might have killed a link somewhere...
[07:19] <luckyone> hello all, quick question about sharing a database, what wrapper script do you need to start amarok with to prevent it from wiping your database when it isn't mounted?
[07:19] <manu_> have a problem with kmid, it sends on port 20:0 but timidity  receives @ 128:0 what to do?
[07:19] <luckyone> I am trying to follow this http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MySQL_HowTo
[07:20] <Chrissie> wolf: I know. The fun is in the nights on forums and irc looking for answers. But I'm getting restless these days. Help on the default repositories, maybe, please?
[07:22] <aaroncampbell> jussi01: Well, I tried it, but still a no go
[07:23] <aaroncampbell> Zend Still says "No Print Service Found"
[07:24] <jussi01> aaroncampbell: Im sorry, maybe someone else can help. Im out of ideas.
[07:27] <trotek> after upgrading to feisty, the gnome fonts got bigger. how can i shrink them?
[07:27] <jussi01> trotek: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:27] <trotek> kubuntu
[07:27] <Markeda> Is there some way, in Konversation, to hide joining and leaving nicks?
[07:27] <dennister> hep ppl...having some trouble with feisty & sane/xsane here...anyone know how to change the device from the tuner to the usbscanner?
[07:28] <dennister> sane can't find the scanner, but the /dev/usbscanner does exist
[07:28] <jussi01> trotek: system settings - > appearance -> gtk settings,
[07:29] <trotek> jussi01: ah, ok. i'll try that
[07:32] <trotek> jussi01: that worked. thanks. :)
[07:32] <Markeda> So, is there no way to disable the joining and leaving messages with Konversation?
[07:32] <jussi01> trotek: excellent :D
[07:33] <jussi01> Markeda: settings -> configure notifications...
[07:35] <manu_> someone can help me with kmid and timidity?
[07:35] <manu_> :(
[07:36] <lennin001> someone know a program as limewire for Kubuntu???
[07:36] <Tm_T> !frostfire | lennin001
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:36] <Tm_T> !limefire | lennin001
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about limefire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <Tm_T> err?!
[07:37] <Tm_T> whops
[07:37] <Markeda> Jussi, I've been looking at that, but don't see any option to turn it off, just options to do different operations when it happens.
[07:37] <Tm_T> !limewire | lennin001
[07:37] <ubotu> lennin001: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:37] <lennin001> someone know a program as limewire for Kubuntu???
[07:38] <lennin001> please
[07:38] <Jucato> !frostwire
[07:38] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:38] <lennin001> tanks
[07:39] <Farmer> can someone convince me to go ubuntu or kubuntu? I'm using KDE with Suse 10.0 atm. I think I prefer KDE but the thing is I want the desktop effects, but I just read a review where it said desktop effects doesnt work with KDE yet, at least not out of the box and it seems to be quite alot of hassle to install beryl or compiz
[07:39] <Doctor_Nick> NO
[07:39] <Doctor_Nick> DECIDE FOR YOURSELF
[07:39] <cables> The effects are about the same
[07:39] <cables> Doctor_Nick: wtf?
[07:39] <jussi01> !caps | Doctor_Nick
[07:39] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:40] <Doctor_Nick> !wee
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Doctor_Nick> !thisisfun
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thisisfun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <jussi01> !botabuse | Doctor_Nick
[07:40] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:40] <cables> Farmer: the effects are the same, but Ubuntu has some more features than Kubuntu and is easier to set up. You can always install KDE as well if you want, with the "kubuntu-desktop" package.
[07:40] <Farmer> yes I know I should decide myself im kind of thorn appart, cause I would seriously like to have the "expos" effect I honestly dont care much for the other "bling"
[07:41] <cables> Farmer: All of it works on both GNOME and KDE.
[07:41] <Farmer> out of the box?
[07:42] <cables> Farmer: not in Kubuntu.
[07:42] <cables> Farmer: it's a simple install though.
[07:42] <Farmer> k, well, on the beryl homepage there seems to be tons of things you have to do
[07:42] <cables> Farmer: I'd go with Ubuntu, see how you like it, and if you don't, you can always install "kubuntu-desktop" which will let you choose between them at login.
[07:42] <cables> Farmer: (between KDE and GNOME)
[07:42] <jlilly> Slight problem with my sound.. I just restarted and it plays in one ear of my headphones. I went to adjust the volume in kmix, and the volume went dead
[07:42] <Farmer> ah cool, well can I do it the other way around? cause im burning kubuntu iso atm
[07:43] <cables> Farmer: I think...
[07:43] <jussi01> Farmer: of course!!
[07:43] <jussi01> :D
[07:43] <cables> Farmer: I'm not sure if you'll get the restricted manager and stuff if you do that
[07:43] <cables> probably though
[07:43] <Maruko> hi
[07:43] <Farmer> good :) thanks for the help
[07:43] <Farmer> ah ok
[07:43] <cables> No problem :)
[07:43] <jussi01> Farmer: np's
[07:43] <Maruko> can I install a new icon image for XFCE?
[07:44] <Maruko> I would like Edubuntu's Icons on XFCE
[07:44] <Tm_T> Farmer: for "expose" thing, install Kompose
[07:44] <Maruko> can I do that=
[07:44] <Tm_T> Farmer: if you don't care to install Beryl or any similar
[07:44] <Jucato> Maruko: you'd have to ask in #xfce or #xubuntu
[07:44] <Maruko> ok
[07:44] <jussi01> Maruko: youa re probably better asking in #xubuntu
[07:44] <Maruko> where I can log in there
[07:44] <jussi01> heh, too late
[07:44] <Farmer> ah yees, might do that, cause I dont care much for the 3d stuff and that
[07:45] <jussi01> Maruko: /join #xubuntu
[07:45] <lucas__> hi, my usb audio isnt working
[07:45] <lucas__> plesa someone
[07:45] <lucas__> ops
[07:45] <lucas__> please helpme
[07:45] <jussi01> !audio | lucas__
[07:46] <ubotu> lucas__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:46] <jussi01> lucas__: have a read of that
[07:46] <lennin001> tank's so much
[07:47] <lucas__> yes, its checked
[07:48] <lucas__> in the mixer, theres a audio usb option, but when i play something or press test sound int the system settings nothing happens
[07:48] <ubuntu__> heh i messed somethin up
[07:49] <nflava> it gives me a fatal error on x
[07:49] <nflava> i had to use the live cd and start in safe graphics mode
[07:49] <jussi01> nflava: what did you do?
[07:49] <nflava> !resolution
[07:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <nflava> i clicked that link and then did the first step
[07:50] <nflava> copy paste the 3 lines of stuff in terminal and then retarted x
[07:50] <nflava> with ctrl alt backspace
[07:50] <jussi01> did you do each separately?
[07:50] <nflava> ah
[07:50] <nflava> nope
[07:50] <jussi01> :)
[07:50] <nflava> hmm
[07:50] <jussi01> nflava: that is probably your problem...
[07:50] <nflava> well how can i get back there and do it again
[07:50] <jussi01> where are you now?
[07:51] <nflava> cause it wont let me start normally
[07:51] <nflava> live cd, safe graphics mode
[07:51] <jussi01> nflava: what about recovery mode??
[07:51] <nflava> same error
[07:51] <nflava> fatal error
[07:51] <plex> hi. Xkb doesn't seem to work at all in kubuntu... i tried many different key combinations to change keyboard layout but nothing seems to work... =/ anybody knows anything about it?
[07:51] <jussi01> ouch
[07:52] <nflava> hehe yeah
[07:52] <dennister> k...have to reboot to see if this prob is fixed
[07:52] <nflava> first days can be rough
[07:52] <jussi01> nflava: did you have anything important on there?
[07:52] <nflava> nope
[07:52] <nflava> i have it all on my win drives
[07:52] <jussi01> nflava: easiest to do a reinstall then
[07:53] <nflava> doh lol
[07:53] <jussi01> hi rexbron
[07:53] <nflava> welp
[07:53] <nflava> thanks for the help
[07:53] <nflava> i suppose ill have to do that then
[07:53] <jussi01> nflava: come back and let us know how you go.
[07:53] <rexbron> sup jussi01
[07:53] <nflava> thanks will do
[07:54] <jussi01> rexbron: not much, just trying to help out :D
 hi, the sound is enabled, the usb audio is on the sound mixer but no sound comes out, im reaaly a newbie in linux, what should i do?
[07:56] <jussi01> lucas__: there was nothing in those links to help you?
[07:57] <lucas__> errr, ive just read the message, didnt see the links, sorry, just woke up :D
[07:57] <lucas__> thks, im going there
[07:58] <jussi01> lucas__: :D
[08:00] <sdf> i have theme with extension kth how can i install it?
[08:01] <sdf> help
[08:01] <Markeda> Um, correct me if I'm wrong please, but to update Kubuntu for security updates, it's command-line thing sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade? Is that correct?
[08:01] <Jucato> !changethemes | sdf
[08:01] <ubotu> sdf: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[08:02] <Jucato> Markeda: yes. or you can use Adept Manger or Adept Updater
[08:03] <Markeda> Mmm... Those don't come already on the disc with the iso? I haven't seen anything like either of those while looking for them...
[08:03] <Markeda> I was just making sure, though. Using the apt-get stuff brought 0 upgrades, so I wanted to make sure I was doing it correctly.
[08:03] <baldie> Markeda: start/KDE menu --> system --> Adept manager...
[08:03] <baldie> it's probably up to date then :>
[08:03] <Jucato> Markeda: Adept is the default GUI package manager for Kubuntu
[08:04] <baldie> there should be an icon in your taskbar when there are updates
[08:04] <Markeda> Ah, I didn't realize what that Adept was. Thank you.
[08:04] <zerothis> how do i use the yes command to send keyboard input, including arrow keys to a minimized app while continuing to use other apps?
[08:05] <coreymon77> guys
[08:05] <coreymon77> im having a wine problem with a particular program that used to work before ever since i upgraded to feisty
[08:06] <coreymon77> the problem is with mirc
[08:06] <jussi01> coreymon77: why do you want to run mirc?
[08:07] <coreymon77> jussi01: i run my bot with it
[08:07] <sdf> my version is kubuntu 6
[08:07] <coreymon77> jussi01: i have an mirc script bot that i host on a few channels
[08:08] <sdf> and i don tfound system settings, appearance
[08:08] <sdf> what do i do to install theme with extension kth
[08:08] <sdf> ??
[08:08] <jussi01> sdf: in the kmenu... then up the top -> system settings
[08:09] <jussi01> click that, then click appearance...
[08:09] <sdf> ok
[08:09] <sdf> then
[08:09] <coreymon77> jussi01: can i get help about tha tin this channel, or is there a better one?
[08:09] <qsu> what is your question coreymon77
[08:10] <coreymon77> qsu: its a wine problem
[08:10] <jussi01> coreymon77: I was going to suggest #wine but that seems dead...
[08:10] <qsu> well you have to wait overthere before you get an answer
[08:11] <Jucato> (wasn't that supposed to be #winehq ?)
[08:13] <jussi01> hehe Jucato yeah, no wonder #wine was dead...
[08:13] <Jucato> :)
[08:15] <sdf> after enter the appearance
[08:15] <aleska> Does anybody here have a big portion of their music collection in ogg vorbis?  If so, what kind of portable media player are you using to listen to them?
[08:15] <sdf> what do i do???
[08:15] <octoberdan> Is there a short command that returns just the issuing user's username?
[08:16] <octoberdan> sort of like groups does for groups
[08:16] <sdf> help
[08:16] <jussi01> aleska: I have, and I use a samsung yp-t6
[08:16] <jussi01> sdf: there should be an import button there
[08:16] <Jucato> octoberdan: id ?
[08:17] <Jucato> octoberdan: "whoami" also
[08:17] <aleska> jussi01: So I assume the samsung yp-t6 works well with linux?
[08:17] <octoberdan> Jucato: Perfect. Thanks
[08:17] <sdf> how?
[08:18] <jussi01> aleska: perfectly
[08:18] <aleska> In state where could I buy one?
[08:18] <fagin> aleska: A quick google gave this page: http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers
[08:18] <aleska> oops in the States
[08:19] <aleska> thanks fagin - I've noted that some of them listed there, like iRiver, claim that they won't work with linux
[08:19] <fagin> k
[08:19] <fagin> But iriver is a mass storage unit isn't it? They should work with just about any OS
[08:21] <aleska> not sure...I just know that iRiver's customer support told me specifically, won't work with Linux
[08:21] <baldie> fagin: most players is mass storage units...
[08:22] <baldie> aleska: they are probably referring to "no support
[08:22] <baldie> "
[08:22] <fagin> baldie: Yeah. That's my experience too
[08:22] <eternal_p> hi all...any idea where I can find adobe reader + plugin for feisty...apt-get doesn't seem to find it...
[08:23] <atidem> eternal_p: what's your browser? if it's firefox try pdf download add-on
[08:23] <eternal_p> eternal_p: its not that, the default .pdf reader I don't like, for linux I find adobe reader (at least for edgy) was much cleaner
[08:23] <fagin> I'm longing for rockport to fix the battery life issue. After that my iPod will be truly portable
[08:24] <Icebreaker> hi
[08:24] <Icebreaker> how are you?
[08:24] <jovan> how to store the volume sudo alsactl store don't have any effect
[08:24] <atidem> eternal_p: I think kdpf it's really nice
[08:24] <Icebreaker> speaks someone german in this channel ^^?
[08:24] <atidem> !de | Icebreaker
[08:24] <ubotu> Icebreaker: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:25] <ericsson> how would one go about to check what kind of pam_usb version there is on the machine?
[08:25] <Icebreaker> thank u
[08:27] <aleska> fagin: I had an old iPod mini running rockbox...it seems I let the battery go too low, b/c now it won't boot or recharge.  Hence I'm looking to buy a new player
[08:28] <zorglu_> aleska: the battery is too low for recharge ?!?!
[08:28] <zorglu_> aleska: isnt the purpose of recharging to increase the battery ? naive question i dunno ipod
[08:29] <aleska> I know!  Crazy.  It appears so
[08:29] <aleska> its an old unit, battery life has been increasingly puttzy
[08:30] <sdf> my icon scheme
[08:30] <sdf> is change
[08:30] <aleska> I connect my ipod to my pc via usb, nothing is happening
[08:30] <sdf> how can i solve this
[08:30] <sdf> the media partation is so big
[08:30] <sdf> and all icons is very small
[08:31] <ericsson> aleska: Is it detected if you do lsusb?
[08:31] <sdf> help
[08:31] <fagin> aleska: Perhaps it was because the unti was old that it couldn't handle the stress of running rockbox
[08:31] <fagin> *unit
[08:31] <sdf> the speech above icons
[08:31] <sdf> help please?
[08:33] <aleska> no not detected
[08:33] <ericsson> sdf: do you mean text boxes when you hold your mouse over icons?
[08:33] <ericsson> aleska: try to re-plug it and then write dmesg
[08:33] <sdf> no
[08:34] <sdf> icons are so large inside
[08:34] <sdf> how can i make it small
[08:34] <ericsson> ctrl+scroll with mousewheel?
[08:34] <aleska> its as if the unit is completely dead...plugging it back in doesn't even register to the pc
[08:35] <ericsson> aleska: might be dead, does it work in other machines?
[08:36] <ericsson> aleska: did it find any sd* devices when you did dmesg?
[08:37] <spookylukey> Has anyone had problems/success with Amarok and last.fm?
[08:37] <spookylukey> ...in Feisty, I mean
[08:40] <ardchoille> What is this and how can I get it on my kubuntu?  http://tinyurl.com/2sjqp8
[08:42] <ardchoille> Nevermind, it's called Kbfx and it's in the repos.
[08:43] <nflava> !resolution
[08:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:43] <aleska> ericsson: there are some sd references...
[08:44] <eams> ubotu, grub doesn't work
[08:44] <nixternal> eams: what is wrong with grub?
[08:45] <ericsson> aleska: they are either sata, scsi-drives or might be your ipoddy
[08:45] <eams>  Lost grub after installing windows
[08:45] <nixternal> ouch
[08:45] <eams> yes, ouch!
[08:45] <nixternal> well, with an edgy cd, alternate install not LiveCD, you can start up the installation, get to a certain point, and then reinstall grub
[08:47] <eams> Mmm, wait...
[08:47] <plex> hi, how can i install geforce fx 5600xt driver in kubuntu? i tried it with adept manager and then had to reinstall kubuntu =/
[08:47] <ericsson> aleska: you could give mount -a a try and see if it mounts
[08:50] <guhhh> plex why reinstall?
[08:50] <plex> cause i couldn't load it after rebooting
[08:51] <sdf> how can i run gnome
[08:51] <sdf> what is the gnome
[08:51] <sdf> kde
[08:52] <sdf> i have windows decoratio run in gnome  gtk2
[08:52] <sdf> what is this mean?
[08:52] <sdf> and how install it?
[08:52] <jussi01> !gnome | sdf
[08:52] <ubotu> sdf: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:54] <sdf> what about windows decoration that run in gnome gtk2?
[08:54] <sdf> how can install it?
[08:55] <jussi01> sdf: you need to install gnome for that... you cant on kde...
[08:55] <Erunno> Is this even possible without running another window manager like metacity ?
[08:55] <sdf> how can install gnome and how can i run it?
[08:55] <aleska> ericsson: just did...and...nada
[08:56] <jussi01> sdf: you know the diference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:56] <ericsson> aleska: and if you do mount | grep usb
[08:57] <sdf> no
[08:57] <sdf> i don t
[08:57] <sdf> ki guess that kubuntu use kde
[08:57] <sdf> and ubuntun  use the two
[08:57] <sdf> ????
[08:57] <jussi01> sdf: maybe have a look on google - there is a lot of stuff there to explain it...
[08:57] <Erunno> sdf: Yes, and Ubuntu uses GNOME. I'd suggest that you download the Ubuntu live CD and give GNOME a try.
[08:58] <jussi01> sdf: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu kde
[08:58] <sdf> in your opinion what is the best gnome or kde???
[08:59] <Erunno> sdf: You're in a KDE channel, guess what the answer will be ? ;-)
[08:59] <ericsson> sdf: it comes down to personal preferences, if you want, then you can install both and find out for yourself..
[08:59] <jussi01> sdf: you need to make that decision yourself...
[08:59] <ubuntu__> is it possible running win applications under ubuntu?
[08:59] <Erunno> sdf: Not very helpful, but you can try out both via the live CDs without compromising your current system.
[09:00] <ericsson> !wine | ubuntu__
[09:00] <ubotu> ubuntu__: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:00] <sdf> i have fedora core 6
[09:00] <Kim^J> Hey! Where are the KDM sessions stored?
[09:00] <sdf> but i can t install pppoe  in it
[09:01] <ubuntu__> thanks
[09:01] <ericsson> sdf: You can do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop
[09:01] <aleska> ericsson: procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[09:02] <manu_> what can be the reason that timidity plays not all instruments?
[09:02] <sdf> how can i install kde theme??
[09:03] <jussi01> sdf: you asked this before
[09:03] <sdf> ya
[09:03] <sdf> please help
[09:03] <sdf> i can t
[09:03] <jussi01> we told you
[09:03] <sdf> i don t found word of theme
[09:03] <sdf> in appearance
[09:04] <sdf> i foud color , font , style, windows decoration
[09:04] <sdf> and icons
[09:05] <guhhh> sdf gnome is the best, sorry folks :X
[09:05] <sdf> guhhh:why?
[09:05] <guhhh> sdf system > preferences > themes
[09:05] <jussi01> sdf: they are all parts of themes
[09:05] <guhhh> sdf: because its more beautiful
[09:06] <guhhh> kde is ugly, lol
[09:06] <jussi01> guhhh: no offense, but thats a personal choice
[09:06] <sdf> you mean i must unstall kubuntu??
[09:06] <Erunno> sdf: Try the live CD, it's safer this way. Go to www.ubuntu.com and download the desktop CD.
[09:06] <guhhh> sdf: no, its ur choice, u asked what we preffer
[09:07] <afs> ubotu, grub
[09:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:07] <wolfe> When i go to adept manager and request download for wine, it installs but when i run a command through linux it says it cant preform that action
[09:07] <Erunno> wolfe: you'll have to run it via "wine <appname>"
[09:07] <ericsson> aleska: I don't know, but I found this, it might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413821
[09:08] <guhhh> wolfe: did u download it from non-free or what?
[09:08] <wolfe> it said $ wine
[09:08] <wolfe> i tryed wine and it works thanks erunno
[09:09] <Erunno> wolfe: You're welcome. You can configure some wine options via 'winecfg'
[09:09] <ericsson> anyone got experience in compling pam_usb source?
[09:09] <ericsson> compiling ;)
[09:09] <Kim^J> !kdm
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Kim^J> ubotu: gdm
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Kim^J> ubotu: xsessions
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsessions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Kim^J> Stupid bot.
[09:10] <ericsson> !stupidbot
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupidbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <ericsson> ;)
[09:10] <sdf> can i install ubuntu on my computer
[09:10] <sdf> ??
[09:10] <Erunno> Does anyone else have lookups during hibernating since feisty ?
[09:10] <aleska> thx...when my ipod had some juice left, it mounted just fine...now it just seems to be a no go.
[09:10] <ericsson> sdf: yes, you can :)
[09:10] <Kim^J> Now tell me, where do I put the kdm session scripts?
[09:10] <ericsson> aleska: probably just got tired and died then :)
[09:11] <Kim^J> Anyone?
[09:11] <Doctor_Nick> !eating
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <Doctor_Nick> He gon' die
[09:12] <aleska> btw - I asked this before, but maybe some are new to the chat...what portable media players are you using that a) play ogg and b) you really like.  I'm really looking for alternatives to going out and buying an ipod and then having to rockbox it.
[09:12] <wolfe> is there any way to make a shortcut which runs a line of code?
[09:12] <sparr> why does lsof take minutes to run sometimes and milliseconds sometimes?
[09:12] <qsu> how can i see my cpu speed
[09:12] <aleska> Are people even ripping in ogg anymore? has the market place forced us to stick with mp3?
[09:12] <plex> how can i stop the X server and turn off all GUI staff?
[09:13] <Lynoure> aleska: yes, they are.
[09:13] <sparr> aleska: i do all my ripping to ogg
[09:13] <qsu> same overhere
[09:13] <sparr> what market place?
[09:13] <jussi01> aleska: all to OGG
[09:13] <Lynoure> aleska: and there are multiple nice music player devices that support ogg and even flac
[09:13] <aldin> sudo vi /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, there is no ';extension=mysql.so' is it removed
[09:14] <aleska> mean these? http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/PortablePlayers
[09:14] <Lynoure> aleska: I'll have to look at that list first
[09:14] <aleska> I'm having a hard time find ones that people recommend (other than ipod)
[09:14] <aleska> or I should say, come highly recommended
[09:15] <Erunno> alexa: Cowon players can play mp3, ogg, flac, wma, look and sound extremely good.
[09:15] <hans_> Has any one here have had problems with "avahi-daemon"
[09:15] <jussi01> aleska: if you just want a small basic one, I highly reccomend the samsung!!!
[09:15] <Lynoure> aleska: I have heard Trekstore Vibez recommended, at least.
[09:15] <Erunno> aleska: They're not cheap though, but in my opinion it's worth the price.
[09:15] <sparr> gp2x can play ogg just fine.  of course, its a game system, not a "music player"
[09:16] <ericsson> Kim^J:  I keep them in /etc/session.d/scripts when it comes to start/stop scripts
[09:16] <jussi01> aleska: Ive also heard good things about the trekstore stuff
[09:16] <aleska> jussi01 - I couldn't find that model sold in US
[09:17] <aldin>  * Starting ftp server proftpd                                                   - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'ubuntu' error: No address associated with hostname
[09:17] <aldin> what is that
[09:17] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[09:17] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:17] <zorglu_> aldin: try that
[09:18] <aldin> zorglu_, thanks!
[09:18] <XaMaD> hello
[09:18] <Erunno> XaMaD: Evening !
[09:18] <hans_>  Has any one here have had problems with "avahi-daemon"
[09:18] <mehdouch> hello evry body
[09:18] <XaMaD> thank :)
[09:19] <lotusleaf> hans_: no, because I removed it :)
[09:19] <pc_> yup
[09:20] <mehdouch> i'hve trouble in downloading Kubuntu, there is some how wonna help me
[09:20] <balint> hi there, pls help me how to install FUSE on 6.10
[09:20] <hans_> lotusleaf: I did as well
[09:20] <XaMaD> Today, i just tested kubuntu (i know, i'm late, bu i like debian :) ), i had a big problem, tar do segfault at each apt-get. i used the tar from an other computer, but it is a big bug ? no ?
[09:20] <ubuntu__> one more question, i want to change two OS. is it possible?
[09:21] <hans_> Just wondering why avahi-daemon was installed in the first place
[09:22] <lotusleaf> hans_: convenience for many, I would assume
[09:23] <XaMaD> In kubuntu 7.041, tar segfault ! :)
[09:23] <XaMaD> 7.04*
[09:25] <hans_> lol lotusleaf, it made my ssh setup time very slow
[09:25] <baldie> what is avahi?
[09:25] <baldie> oh
[09:25] <baldie> dont answer
[09:25] <baldie> i'll google :o
[09:25] <hans_> At first I thought I had been hacked I had never seen it
[09:26] <hans_> btw, I noticed my firewall is getting an even harder time since joining this channel
[09:26] <hans_> seems to be coming from 82.96.96.3
[09:27] <hans_> oh well time to get a new IP# laters all and thanx lotusleaf for responding
[09:27] <lotusleaf> hans_: yw
[09:28] <jianghua> j
[09:28] <XaMaD> where can i post a bug report ? /bin/tar segfault on my computer
[09:30] <balint> pls help how to install fuse
[09:31] <asa> Can some one give me a quick refresher on changing the order of (the default) boot choice?
[09:32] <asa> Is anyone here?
[09:32] <Kim^J> Now tell me, where the **** do Kubuntu store their KDM session files? WHERE?!?!?!?
[09:32] <asa> It appears that there are lots of folks with questions, and no folks with answers
[09:33] <asa> Can some one give me a quick refresher on changing the order of (the default) boot choice?
[09:33] <Kim^J> This channel has becoming a n00b channel totally.
[09:33] <Kim^J> asa: /boot/grub.conf
[09:33] <asa> Kim J - THX!
[09:33] <baldie> Kim^J: have you looked at /home/name/.something/ ??
[09:34] <Kim^J> asa: No problem.
[09:34] <Kim^J> baldie: What? That should not be needed.
[09:34] <Kim^J> Last Ubuntu it was /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/
[09:34] <baldie> i dont know what you're asking about
[09:34] <Kim^J> Or something like that.
[09:34] <baldie> oh..
[09:34] <baldie> ok
[09:34] <Kim^J> baldie: I want to add a session/window manager to KDM.
[09:35] <guillermoamaral> Hi! im in a bit of a pickle, I just convinced my GF to install linux and i thought Kubuntu might do the trick, sadly i have been having problems with VMWARE all day... cant get the bloody thing to work... have tried all the google suggested ways but no luck.. anybody know how to get vmware up and running on kubuntu ff?
[09:35] <Kim^J> Every friggin search on google gives me 1000 of results. On Beryl. :(:(:(
[09:35] <jhutchins> Kim^J: What WM?
[09:35] <Kim^J> jhutchins: WMii, and no. I'm not going to do it the ubuntu way.
[09:35] <Kim^J> And it's "Which WM".
[09:36] <jhutchins> Well, if you know how not to do it I guess you don't need help.
[09:36] <ubuntu__> who likes this stuff
[09:37] <Kim^J> We?
[09:37] <Kim^J> Which stuff?
[09:37] <asa> Oh No... Whats the command to become root on Ubuntu so I can edit menu.lst
[09:37] <Kim^J> sudo .s
[09:37] <jhutchins> !sudo | asa
[09:37] <ubotu> asa: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:37] <Kim^J> sudo -s
[09:37] <jhutchins> !ksesu | asa
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksesu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <asa> sudo
[09:38] <Kim^J> kdesu
[09:38] <jhutchins> !kdesu | asa
[09:38] <ubotu> asa: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:38] <Kim^J> But use sudo -s
[09:38] <jhutchins> Kim^J: Suggest you read the pages above before giving gratuitous advice.
[09:38] <Kim^J> jhutchins: Huh?
[09:39] <balint> !fuse
[09:39] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:39] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I set my usb sound card to be my defualt soundcard?
[09:39] <nbcb> help.. how do i access my canon usb camera??
[09:39] <nbcb> i need to upload pics
[09:39] <nbcb> in kubuntu
[09:39] <nbcb> help
[09:40] <HaSH> nbcb, try digikam worked for me.
[09:40] <nbcb> but when i plug in, it doesn't auto detect
[09:40] <guillermoamaral> anybody know how to get vmware up and running on kubuntu ff?
[09:40] <HaSH> nbcb, not to sure. try this: unplug then plug in...then open digikam
[09:41] <nbcb> no can't
[09:42] <octoberdan> Food for thought: Swiftweasel.
[09:42] <nbcb> anywhere i can find help
[09:42] <nbcb> by right it shd appear in media?
[09:43] <guillermoamaral> screw this im going to put Gentoo on it... thanks for all you help (T_T)
[09:44] <diespectra> blah anyone know whats up with the swiftfox site?
[09:44] <const> i got 5 year old laptop. and ubuntu+beryl are flying
[09:44] <const> looks like linux is no bad
[09:45] <nbcb> !camera
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <nbcb> !usb
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <nbcb> look i really need help on my camera i need to upload files
[09:45] <coreymon77> easy
[09:45] <baldie> nhcb try to write dmesg | tail in a console thingy
[09:46] <coreymon77> stick em into an hp printer and then use the hp toolbox utility
[09:46] <baldie> nbcb:
[09:46] <asa> What is the default root password?
[09:46] <balint> How can i unmount a drive????
[09:46] <balint> umount hda1 ???
[09:46] <baldie> balint: umount /dev/hda1
[09:46] <baldie> if that is the drive
[09:46] <balint> yes thx
[09:47] <baldie> type 'mount' for a list of active mounts
[09:47] <freakwency> hi all
[09:47] <XaMaD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo  <<< it's a security hole O_o
[09:47] <ubuntu__> wats the difference beteen kubuntu and ubuntu
[09:48] <Arwen> ...a fresh install is 5% smaller than an upgraded one - wtf?
[09:48] <HaSH> ubuntu__, kubuntu is kde ubuntu is gnome
[09:48] <baldie> ubuntu__ the difference is that ubuntu uses GNOME and kubuntu uses KDE .. search google for GNOME KDE
[09:48] <HaSH> other then that that are the exact same
[09:48] <balint> baldie: it sais /dev hda1 on /media/hda1
[09:49] <fdoving> Arwen: my guess is old kernel images eats most of that space
[09:49] <balint> than just type umount /media/hda1  or /dev/hda1 ?
[09:49] <Arwen> fdoving, no, I always clear out my old kernels
[09:49] <Arwen> perhaps it's old syslogs?
[09:49] <baldie> balint: ok.. then type 'sudo umount /dev/hda1'
[09:49] <asa> Can someone tell me what this means please? "
[09:49] <asa> asa@asa-desktop:/boot/grub$ sudo edit menu.lst
[09:49] <asa> Warning: unknown mime-type for "menu.lst" -- using "application/*"
[09:49] <asa> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[09:49] <fdoving> Arwen: yeah, backups of everything, and logs too.
[09:49] <baldie> balint: you could also type umount /media/hda1 .. both should work
[09:50] <ubuntu__> you guys have any online gaming within this OS
[09:50] <fdoving> Arwen: there is also /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:50] <balint> baldie it worked with sudo
[09:50] <sparr> whats a good video editor?
[09:50] <baldie> balint: oh ye.. you always need to be root to do such stuff :>
[09:50] <Arwen> fdoving, true
[09:50] <lontra> hi can someone help me to set up my audio card?  it seems to be detected but i don't hear any audio out of it
[09:50] <const> anybody has any comments on KDE vs XFCE?
[09:51] <Arwen> err.... yes, they're two different things
[09:51] <baldie> const: xfce is designed with resource efficiency in mind.. you cant exactly say that about KDE *hint*
[09:51] <DeCloaK> Hi, i just downloaded kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso and burned it to a CD, how do i boot from that CD?
[09:51] <baldie> xubuntu is used a lot for computers with older hardware
[09:52] <baldie> DeCloaK: if it doesnt boot automatically, you need to enter your bios and set cdrom as boot device
[09:52] <const> baldie: did you try XFCE?
[09:52] <baldie> const: nop
[09:52] <Arwen> DeCloaK, stick it in your computer and wait for it to boot...
[09:52] <nbcb> disappointing. i can't read my usb camera the way windows handle
[09:53] <DeCloaK> k, thanks Arwen, baldie
[09:53] <balint> baldie: i mounted with ntfs-3g but cant create folder :(
[09:53] <const> what about KDE vs GNOME? it is probably subjective, but what do you all think?
[09:54] <nbcb> and i can't find any support
[09:54] <Arwen> baldie, try "sudo mkdir <folder>" - if that works, it just means you have to tweak your mount options
[09:54] <Lynoure> const: you are asking on #kubuntu, hardly a neutral growd :)
[09:54] <baldie> balint: read what Arwen said
[09:54] <johny_> Witam
[09:54] <Lynoure> const: Try both, decide for yourself.
[09:54] <johny_> sorry
[09:55] <const> Lynoure: good poing :-)
[09:55] <Arwen> const, KDE tries to jam as many options as it can think of into the UI. GNOME tries to hide as many options from you as possible.
[09:55] <Arwen> that's about it
[09:55] <baldie> const: try to search google for gnome vs kde .. there is A LOT if good articles that compares them
[09:55] <baldie> const: in the end, after reading 5-10 articles, i'll bet you'll end up confused (as i did) and thinking "oh well, i gotta try both"
[09:55] <balint> baldie, it works , but i only can create folder in already existing folders :) now im going to try it out with mkdir
[09:56] <const> yeah, i read a lot of articles of gnome vs kde... just wanted to hear live opinion
[09:56] <baldie> const: you'll get different answers from every person you ask :>
[09:56] <balint> hurrraa, it works with mkdir :)
[09:56] <baldie> I don't know what I like the best.. I use ubuntu on my home comp, and kubuntu on this laptop
[09:57] <Arwen> balint, that means your uid, gid, umask, and fmask options are wrong
[09:57] <Arwen> balint, pastebin your fstab
[09:57] <balint> pastebin? you mean paste?
[09:57] <smile> hi .. how can i take sequence from screen ?
[09:57] <baldie> heh he means dont paste...
[09:57] <baldie> aerhm
[09:57] <smile> i mean screen capture (movie not image )!
[09:57] <baldie> !pastebin
[09:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <const> live opinions reflect the artcicles - it is confusing issue :-)
[09:59] <asa> What's an editor that I can use from the CLI to edit menu.lst?
[09:59] <DeCloaK> can you boot from a virtual drive?
[09:59] <fdoving> asa, nano
[09:59] <smile> is there any help plz ? .. i want take screen capture movie!
[09:59] <const> let me say it again: iam really impressed what kubuntu+beryl can do on my outdated laptop
[10:00] <balint> Arwen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18143/
[10:00] <asa> THX fdoving!
[10:00] <balint> Arwen, now im going to mount my other harddisk, the hda1 was the testing
[10:01] <Arwen> balint, you're doing something wrong - they should be "ntfs-3g" not "ntfs"
[10:01] <Arwen> !ntfs-3g | balint
[10:01] <ubotu> balint: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:02] <balint> Arwen, well i mounted like nts-3g i dont know why shows else :(:(
[10:02] <asa> In menu.lst, just moving the choice I want to be the default to the top of the list works, right?  It talks about "num" starting at 0, but there are no numbers.
[10:02] <balint> Arwen:    mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o locale=hu_HU.utf8
[10:03] <baldie> asa yes you can move it to the top.. but there is another thingy that lets you choose eg nr. 3 as default...
[10:03] <Arwen> balint, hmm, here's an idea - just edit your fstab and replace every ntfs with ntfs-3g
[10:03] <Arwen> then reboot
[10:03] <balint> Arwen: what if it messes up something?
[10:04] <balint> reboot? oh i didnt reboot after mounting :)
[10:04] <balint> maybe thats the problem?
[10:04] <Arwen> balint, if it messes up, boot a live cd and change it back :-)
[10:04] <balint> first i wil try reboot now :)
[10:04] <baldie> uhm
[10:04] <balint> if doesnt work, than i edt fstab
[10:04] <baldie> balint: you dont need to reboot
[10:05] <balint> but Arwen just said to reboot :)
[10:05] <baldie> you can do 'sudo umount /dev/hdax' for your 3 devices
[10:05] <baldie> the ntfs devices
[10:05] <Arwen> baldie, yeah, well, true
[10:05] <baldie> and then do 'sudo mount -a'
[10:05] <ericsson> balint: or sudo mount -a
[10:05] <balint> -a?
[10:05] <balint> what does that do,
[10:05] <balint> ?
[10:05] <Arwen> balint, anyway, apply those fstab changes I mentioned
[10:05] <baldie> -a mounts the stuff in fstab
[10:05] <baldie> "-all" meaing those in fstab
[10:06] <baldie> anyways, i'm not expert here, Arwen knows a whole lot more than me.. I just wanted to let you know that you weren't forced to reboot
[10:06] <Arwen> baldie, I just said to reboot because it's easier
[10:06] <Arwen> mount -a works too, but then I'd have to tell him about unmounting...
[10:07] <baldie> Arwen: i know :>
[10:07] <Arwen> :-\
[10:07] <balint> well sudo mount -a didnt do any change in fstab so i will edit it manually
[10:07] <baldie> i'm just following your chat to learn something
[10:07] <baldie> i
[10:07] <baldie> i'm rather new at this linux
[10:07] <cristian> hello i need help my screen savers opengl not work
[10:07] <balint> be back soon
[10:08] <cristian> after install nvidia
[10:08] <baldie> balint: you need to edit fstab first and add those -3g thingies
[10:08] <baldie> after you've saved fstab, then unmount and do the 'sudo mount -a' to remount the stuff according the options specified in stab
[10:08] <Arwen> balint, mount -a doesn't edit fstab, it loads the changes you make to it
[10:09] <Arwen> so therefore, you have to make the changes before you do mount -a :-)
[10:10] <cristian> hello sory my inglish im from argentina anybody can help me with nvidia video problem?
[10:11] <gianpy> ciao a tutti
[10:11] <balint> Arwen i edited fstab and sudo mount -a, what should happen now? i should be able now to create folders on hda1 itself, nad not just in its folders?
[10:11] <Arwen> baldie, before you do "sudo mount -a" you have to unmount the devices you changed the entries for
[10:12] <Arwen> so for each ntfs partition do "sudo umount /dev/<device>"
[10:12] <gianpy> c' e' nessuno che parla italiano??
[10:12] <baldie> balint: read what Arwen said ;)
[10:12] <balint> done :)
[10:12] <hdxx> gianpy: english please
[10:12] <ericsson> !it
[10:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:13] <baldie> balint: you've unmount all the stuff, and then done 'sudo mount -a' ?
[10:13] <balint> yes
[10:13] <gianpy> ho capito ma tu sei italiano??
[10:13] <Arwen> balint, then try making a folder now :-)
[10:14] <balint> i still cant make it with right click
[10:14] <Arwen> ...
[10:14] <segfault2k> hi, someone can help me with kubuntu feisty and beryl or compiz
[10:14] <segfault2k> i cant get window borders
[10:14] <Pollywog> what is it with the nvidia drivers, is this going to get fixed?
[10:14] <segfault2k> cube effect, wooble all of that
[10:14] <segfault2k> but no window borders
[10:14] <Arwen> balint, can you pastebin your fstab again? also pastebin the output of "mount -l"
[10:15] <balint> i can only make folders with rigth click in already existing folders on hda1. i cant make olders directly on hda1
[10:15] <balint> mount -l what does this do? :$
[10:15] <Pollywog> and how do I know whether I should use a -386 or -generic kernel?
[10:15] <baldie> list active mounts
[10:15] <baldie> the same as just 'mount' (i think)
[10:16] <const> segfault2k: i am a newbie - don't expect much from me. but i installed kubutnu+beryl few days ago.
[10:16] <Pollywog> !kernel > pollywog
[10:16] <Arwen> Pollywog, if your computer is newer than 10 years old, you want -generic
[10:16] <segfault2k> how u do that
[10:16] <const> and i'm really impressed what this software can do on my old laptop
[10:16] <segfault2k> i have effects
[10:16] <segfault2k> but no windows borders
[10:16] <Pollywog> Arwen: ty
[10:16] <Pollywog> I happen to have gotten the correct one then
[10:16] <hdxx> segfault2k: same problem here:S
[10:17] <balint> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18147/
[10:17] <wolferine> what can I use to record beryl again?
[10:17] <guhhh> does anyobody has a x800?
[10:17] <wolferine> s/again//
[10:17] <segfault2k> 16:16]  <hdxx> segfault2k: same problem here:S <-- !! :(
[10:17] <Arwen> balint, the output of mount -l too please
[10:17] <guhhh> segfault2k: .
[10:17] <segfault2k> nobody know how to fix it
[10:17] <segfault2k> guhhh:
[10:17] <guhhh> segfault2k: beryl-manager ->
[10:18] <segfault2k> and?
[10:18] <Pollywog> I used the Ubuntu guide to get nvidia working but I still can't get it to work
[10:18] <guhhh> segfault2k: beryl-manager -> select emerald -> reload
[10:18] <const> segfault2k: you may want to look at "Theme manager", not "Beryl manager"
[10:18] <wolferine> Pollywog, u get the latest drivers installed?
[10:18] <Pollywog> in -17 or -20 kernel
[10:18] <balint> its weard, it sais (wil pastebin in a sec) that the type of hda1 is fuse :S
[10:18] <Pollywog> wolferine: I had to downgrade to the ones in Edgy
[10:18] <tdn_> How do I get a second monitor to work? I need to run 1280x1024 on the other monitor. My normal monitor runs 1400x1050 (but I can accept another res. temporarily). My computer is a laptop -- IBM Thinkpad T42 with an ATI graphics card. lspci says :  ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[10:18] <const> guhhh: what's x800?
[10:18] <guhhh> segfault2k: sorry, i mean, window decorator
[10:18] <init2null> I just bought a new widescreen monitor. does anyone know why kdm would use the correct resolution and then change to 1024x768 when kde starts?
[10:19] <balint> arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18148/
[10:19] <wolferine> Pollywog, well, I have it working, if you go back to the latest, I can probably help get it working
[10:19] <guhhh> const: ati radeon x800 (video card)
[10:19] <Pollywog> wolferine: the thing is that the -20 kernel will not allow VMware to work
[10:19] <guhhh> Pollywog: are u using xgl? (glx)?
[10:19] <Pollywog> so I am stuck with 2.6.17
[10:19] <Arwen> balint, try closing konqueror and restarting it - then see if it'll let you make a folder
[10:19] <Pollywog> guhhh yes
[10:19] <Doctor_Nick> how do you change the default applications for files and such?
[10:20] <guhhh> Pollywog: did u download beryl from beryl source? (v0.2.0)?
[10:20] <Pollywog> it was working until I upgraded to Feisty
[10:20] <balint> Arwen isnt that a problem that mount -l sais type: FUSE ?
[10:20] <Arwen> no, that's the right type
[10:20] <Pollywog> guhhh this is not for beryl
[10:20] <hdxx> Pollywog: did you install kernel modules
[10:20] <heinkel_111> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18149/ <----whats with the UUID things that came in under conversion to edgy? Do i really need that?
[10:20] <hdxx> for vmware
[10:20] <guhhh> Pollywog: if u download it from ubuntu repo. it probably wont work
[10:20] <const> guhhh: that's what i thougt. i am working on the opposide side of the universe
[10:21] <Pollywog> guhhhh this is not for Beryl
[10:21] <Pollywog> though I had Beryl working under Edgy
[10:21] <balint> Arwen ok, than i reboot, thats the 100% solution :9
[10:21] <Arwen> yes, lol
[10:21] <Pollywog> I installed the restricted modules
[10:21] <guhhh> Pollywog: edgy is edgy, feisty is feisty, beryl is beryl
[10:21] <segfault2k> i select emerald
[10:21] <segfault2k> reload
[10:21] <segfault2k> and
[10:21] <segfault2k> nothing :(
[10:21] <chx> hi. I would like to install feisty from an USB stick and I got as far as the installer is loaded (i loopmounted the alternate iso, copied all file, syslinux'd install-mbr'd) but I just can't get the usb stick mounted in busybox, i get 'invalid argument' for mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt despite dmesg recogns the stick
[10:21] <segfault2k> segfault@dna:~$ emerald
[10:21] <segfault2k> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[10:21] <guhhh> segfault2k: u got no borders or ur theme doesnt change?
[10:22] <segfault2k> no borders
[10:22] <Pollywog> okay my system is Feisty but my kernel is the one from Edgy, 2.6.17
[10:22] <heinkel_111> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18149/ <----whats with the UUID things that came in under conversion to edgy? Do i really need that?
[10:22] <guhhh> segfault2k: try reload window manager
[10:22] <segfault2k> i do that :(
[10:23] <segfault2k> its the same problem that i have with compiz
[10:23] <segfault2k> btw sorry my english
[10:23] <guhhh> segfault2k: listen carefully
[10:23] <chx> segfault2k: what card you have?
[10:23] <const> Btw, here is recent DAMMIT vs NVIDIA bit: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=703&Itemid=34
[10:23] <jack__> hi, i have the problem that i cannot install opera cos it would break my system says synaptic or adept:
[10:23] <segfault2k> an old nvidia geforce2 mx400
[10:23] <segfault2k> but i have
[10:23] <segfault2k> all efects
[10:23] <jack__> see it here :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18150/
[10:23] <guhhh> segfault2k: u have two differents options, window manager and window decorator
[10:23] <segfault2k> guhhh:  teah
[10:23] <segfault2k> yeah
[10:24] <guhhh> segfault2k: go to window decorator and select emerald, then refresh window decorator, after that, choose window manager beryl and window manager refresh
[10:24] <Pollywog> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is what I installed to get nvidia drivers
[10:24] <Pollywog> is that wrong?
[10:24] <guhhh> Pollywog: the proprietary?
[10:25] <Pollywog> yes proprietary
[10:25] <segfault2k> guhhh:  not working :(
[10:25] <guhhh> Pollywog: u should install it too, i guess, but you need: nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-src
[10:25] <Pollywog> I have those
[10:25] <guhhh> then change xorg.conf to "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[10:25] <balint> Arwen: IT WORKS!!!! :D Im so Happy!! thx for you and baldie :) and thx again :)
[10:25] <Arwen> balint, :-)
[10:25] <guhhh> and modprobe -i nvidia
[10:26] <balint> now i just have to make the other 2 harddisks :D
[10:26] <baldie> heh np... credits goes to Arwen :>
[10:26] <PraysToPan> hi all, is there a boot option to disable pata support in favor of the old ide driver?  having problems with a cd-rom in a dell poweredge 2500
[10:26] <Pollywog> guhh I did that but it says the module can't be loaded
[10:26] <segfault2k> kk
[10:26] <guhhh> then its not installed correctly
[10:26] <segfault2k> resseting X server
[10:26] <Arwen> PraysToPan, IDE = PATA...
[10:27] <Pollywog> guhhh the module is there
[10:27] <guhhh> Pollywog: try to install mannualy
[10:27] <Pollywog> manually?
[10:27] <PraysToPan> Pollywog: thx
[10:27] <guhhh> ops, yes
[10:27] <guhhh> manually
[10:27] <hdxx> what command is to unistall file "vmware-unistall.pl"
[10:27] <Pollywog> what do you mean manually?
[10:27] <Ertain> Has anyone tried using Hibernation?  I've tried using it, but I don't think it works.  When I use it, my computer turns off after about a minute.  I have it configured to use my swapspace, and I have uswsusp installed.
[10:27] <wolferine> Pollywog, i am sure you can get VMware working at some point
[10:28] <guhhh> Pata = parallel ata, sata = serial ata
[10:28] <Pollywog> wolferine: I got it working in kernel 2.6.17
[10:28] <Pollywog> but vmware does not like the -20 kernel's sources
[10:28] <wolferine> both beryl and vm?
[10:28] <guhhh> Pollywog: i dont know exactly about nvidia, but there must be a shell script somewhere :)
[10:28] <tdn_> How do I watch video on a second monitor?
[10:28] <wolferine> tdn_, move it to the monitor
[10:29] <wolferine> tdn_, then watch :)
[10:29] <Pollywog> guhhh I do not know what got broken when I upgraded to feisty
[10:29] <guhhh> lol
[10:29] <tdn_> wolferine, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2554655
[10:29] <Pollywog> it worked until then
[10:29] <baldie> i have a rather simple question.. is it possible to show two chat-channels next to each other in Konversation? So I can see two channels at the same time?
[10:29] <wolferine> tdn_, no thanks
[10:29] <const> Ertain: another problem with Hibernation i noticed is wirelss it not coming up.
[10:29] <guhhh> Pollywog: download the driver from nvidia
[10:29] <heinkel_111> where can i find checksums for kubuntu 7.04 dvd amd 43
[10:29] <heinkel_111> lol
[10:29] <heinkel_111> where can i find checksums for kubuntu 7.04 dvd amd 64 !
[10:29] <Pollywog> guhhh: k I guess I have nothing to lose
[10:30] <Pollywog> or I could try m-a
[10:30] <tdn_> wolferine, I describe my problem in detail on that url. I don't think you understand my question.
[10:30] <guhhh> Pollywog: downloaded nvidia-glx-new ?
[10:30] <const> yeah, i wanna see an answer to baldie's question
[10:30] <Arwen> say, are the reverse-engineered nvidia drivers usable for anything?
[10:31] <balint> Arwen, great, i did it for the other two disks.
[10:31] <Arwen> :-)
[10:31] <Pollywog> guhhh isn't that for the Feisty kernel?  That is what broke things, glx-new
[10:31] <const> Arwen: what is the problem with nvidia drivers?
[10:32] <ThePianoGu1> should fglrx 3d accellerated work fine on feisty?
[10:32] <balint> Arwen, now i hope torrent will be working properly. :)
[10:32] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: not that much, what for?
[10:32] <Arwen> that's another problem - but I go sleepy now :-)
[10:32] <guhhh> Pollywog: why dont u download the last kernel?
[10:32] <wolferine> anyone have a working logitech webcam?
[10:32] <ThePianoGu1> I get [fglrx:firegl_init_module]  *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed when doing modprobe fglrx
[10:33] <Pollywog> guhh I explained that the latest kernel will not run vmware
[10:33] <Pollywog> not vmware 5.x
[10:33] <balint> Arwen, i slept 8 hours in two days :-)
[10:33] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: ur driver is supported by fglrx?
[10:33] <Arwen> baldie, lol
[10:33] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: ur card is supported by fglrx?
[10:33] <ThePianoGu1> yep, Mobility radeon 9600
[10:33] <Arwen> balint, *
[10:33] <balint> :D
[10:33] <aditya> hello
[10:33] <balint> and now im nit going to sleep :) i must wach films :D
[10:33] <Pollywog> and besides vmware did not work with the latest kernel either
[10:33] <ThePianoGu1> I also downloaded the latest 8.36.5 from the ati site and the same problem
[10:33] <Pollywog> nvidia I mean
[10:34] <Pollywog> did not work with latest kernel
[10:34] <ThePianoGu1> I thought it was 2.6.20 kernel related - but 8.36.5 should support it fine
[10:34] <guhhh> Pollywog: lol, why did u upgraded Edge?
[10:34] <heinkel_111> where can i find checksums for kubuntu 7.04 dvd amd 64 ?
[10:34] <ThePianoGu1> I mean - should fglrx load normally on feisty, was it even tested before the release?!
[10:35] <Pollywog> guhhh I should have left it alone on this machine
[10:35] <guhhh> Pollywog: install feisty directly
[10:35] <Pollywog> though on the laptop Feisty is fine, no nvidia there
[10:35] <orazio> salve
[10:35] <Pollywog> guhhh: no too much trouble doing a full install
[10:35] <Pollywog> upgrades are supposed to be seamless
[10:36] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: depends on ur driver, im running fgrlx, in fact, its the only driver i can run X
[10:36] <guhhh> do you think?
[10:36] <ThePianoGu1> feisty?
[10:36] <Pollywog> and no guarantee that a full install will work either
[10:36] <guhhh> troube is upgrade old versions :D
[10:36] <orazio> salve
[10:36] <lovloss> Any reason why i have to use reocvery mode every time i log in to avoid the loading screen? It seems to drop signal to my monitor
[10:37] <guhhh> lovloss: yes, let me guess, u have an ati
[10:37] <lovloss> guhhh: yep
[10:37] <guhhh> lol
[10:37] <lovloss> i hate this
[10:37] <guhhh> lovloss: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:37] <jack__>  hi, i have the problem that i cannot install opera cos it would break my system says synaptic or adept:
[10:37] <jack__> see it here :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18150/
[10:38] <wilman> xine!
[10:38] <DeCloaK> Hello, I just tried to boot kubuntu from a disk and got this error "[ 202.968000]  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0"
[10:38] <baldie> balint: i wouldn't rely too heavily on the ntfs partitions.. it's considered unstable
[10:38] <lovloss> guhhh: No good. xserver-xorg IS set to fglrx. but the loading screen still crashes the monitor
[10:38] <baldie> i dont know how much, but keep it in mind.. maybe google it
[10:38] <DeCloaK> any ideas wat happened?
[10:38] <guhhh> lovloss: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:38] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: possibly the same bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/86260
[10:38] <balint> baldie, the ntfs itself, or ntfs on linux?
[10:39] <orazio> ce' qualcuno qui che parla italiano?
[10:39] <guhhh> lovloss: is it really running fglrx? lsmod |grep fglrx tell me if its running
[10:39] <baldie> balint: the ntfs on linux...
[10:39] <guhhh> lovloss: go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and erase the "splash" and "quiet" it will sove your problem
[10:39] <baldie> ntfs is very secure on windows
[10:39] <lovloss> guhhh: im in winz  ight now
[10:40] <guhhh> lovloss: ok
[10:40] <lovloss> thank you
[10:40] <balint> baldie, and what do you mean under unstable?
[10:40] <guhhh> lovloss: but do what i told, when u will solve ur problem
[10:40] <baldie> but microsoft doesn't make a linux driver, and dont tell how to make it.. so it's rather hard to make a linux ntfs driver, but it has been done nevertheless
[10:40] <guhhh> lovloss: go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and erase the "splash" and "quiet" it will solve your problem
[10:40] <balint> baldie, i justwant to download while im on linux
[10:40] <baldie> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[10:41] <balint> baldie, maybe downloading will not be corupted
[10:41] <balint> baldie i mean my partitions wont broke, or get a CRC eror :)
[10:41] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: do you run Xgl desktop?
[10:41] <baldie> uuhm... http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ says that the driver is stable
[10:42] <Arwen> baldie, it's "stable"
[10:42] <Arwen> :-)
[10:42] <baldie> ok
[10:42] <guhhh> or better
[10:42] <baldie> cool.. i withdraw my comments then :>
[10:42] <guhhh> its not notoriously unstable, lol
[10:43] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: no. I can shutdown X and try to modprobe fglrx in console and it doesn't load
[10:43] <Arwen> note the quotes... it's stable in theory but some report issues
[10:43] <baldie> i thought i read it was still unstable, but that might've been another driver
[10:43] <ThePianoGu1> (shutdown X by /etc/init.d/kdm stop)
[10:44] <strabes> does anyone have any suggestions for a USB sound device for my laptop?
[10:44] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: well, u must find a way to make ur driver functional, i would like to help you but im leaving :(
[10:44] <voicu> ok, can someone help me with installing ati drivers? i installed fglrx, linux-restricted-modules, x11-fglrx and i still don't have opengl
[10:44] <athena> strabes, nope... just buy some speakers...
[10:44] <athena> Altec Lansing is good
[10:44] <voicu> the ati control program recognises the card fine
[10:45] <voicu> i have a 9600 radeon
[10:45] <guhhh> voice: apt-get install xserver-xgl
[10:45] <guhhh> voicu: apt-get install xserver-xgl
[10:45] <voicu> ok
[10:46] <voicu> and for beryl, what do i need?
[10:46] <don> I have 9550 I am watching closly
[10:46] <guhhh> voicu: lsmod |grep fglrx tell me if it shows something
[10:46] <ThePianoGu1> voicu: I have exactly the same problem
[10:46] <Pollywog> seems the -generic kernel is a SMP kernel and I have only one cpu
[10:46] <guhhh> voicu: i can give u my config, its running beryl right now
[10:46] <ThePianoGu1> I'm having M10 (mobile radeon 9600)
[10:46] <strabes> athena: I have the logitech z-5500 speakers. I just want better quality card for things like surround sound etc
[10:46] <ThePianoGu1> the problem is in loading the fglrx module itself
[10:46] <voicu> it's there
[10:46] <ThePianoGu1> I get *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed
[10:47] <guhhh> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <athena> strabes, then what's USB have to do with this?
[10:47] <strabes> athena: because I have a laptop - i want a USB sound card
[10:48] <fyrmedic> How do I build a macro in command and save it to a usb stick?
[10:48] <athena> strabes, you might as well ask for a rubber CPU... that's a ridiculously stupid idea
[10:48] <voicu> guhhh, it still doesn't work
[10:48] <strabes> athena: No it's not. Creative has several.
[10:48] <voicu> anything else i could need?
[10:48] <strabes> athena: It's just that they suck. I want a good one.
[10:48] <guhhh> voicu there is my config, make a xorg.conf and test it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18155/
[10:49] <voicu> ok, thanks
[10:49] <athena> strabes, there's no such thing as a good USB sound device...
[10:49] <guhhh> voicu: first u have to make the gnome load the xgl
[10:49] <strabes> athena: ok then
[10:49] <athena> just examine your laptop and swap out the internal one...
[10:49] <guhhh> voicu: you need some shell scripts for that
[10:49] <Pollywog> !smp > pollywog
[10:50] <strabes> athena: do you have any recommendations?
[10:50] <athena> for internal cards? Creative if your integrated one isn't any good
[10:50] <athena> for external ones? stay as far away from em as you can
[10:50] <fyrmedic> Anyone have a good link for getting OpenGL working in feisty on a ATi Xpress 200m
[10:50] <voicu> guhhh, i use kde
[10:50] <athena> fyrmedic, you using fglrx?
[10:50] <voicu> what scripts? do i get them from apt?
[10:51] <guhhh> voicu http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/EyeCandy#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29
[10:51] <fyrmedic> athena: whatever works. that is what I have used in the past. If there is something better i'm in!
[10:51] <athena> fyrmedic, fglrx is a driver...
[10:51] <guhhh> Pollywog: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/EyeCandy#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29 and try use this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18155/ (make a backup of your xorg.conf)
[10:51] <fyrmedic> athena; yeah I know
[10:51] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: hey
[10:52] <athena> is it what you're using right now?
[10:52] <athena> if not, you could try
[10:52] <Pollywog> guhhh I am not presently trying to install Beryl
[10:52] <balint> another tihng, wich torrent client is the best?
[10:52] <Pollywog> I just want nvidia to work with 3d
[10:52] <guhhh> Pollywog: okay, sorry. :D
[10:52] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: hello?
[10:52] <nbcb> why do my rmvb file plays so laggy in my realplayer 10?
[10:52] <fyrmedic> athena; yeah but I just upgraded to feisty and every time I do a kernel upgrade it dumps fglrx to mesa and it stops working?
[10:52] <guhhh> Pollywog: its simple: make it load your driver :D
[10:53] <Pollywog> I did depmod and then modprobe nvidia
[10:53] <athena> fyrmedic, yes, because you need to rebuild the kernel module each time :-)
[10:53] <Pollywog> it complains the driver does not exist, only it does
[10:53] <voicu> guhhh, won't this script work only for gnome sessions?
[10:53] <Pollywog> exist
[10:54] <Pollywog> I could try installing Feisty from scratch instead of upgrade but then vmware would not work
[10:54] <voicu> Pollywog: i got an error about fglrx not being in xorg.conf. maybe you have to set it as the device driver. worked for me
[10:55] <Pollywog> if anything I would install Edgy from iso and stop there
[10:55] <don> What 3D cards is kubuntu set up for?
[10:55] <guhhh> voicu: yes, but try that tutorial, its the only one that worked for me, about the shell, you have to find an specific for kde
[10:55] <Pollywog> fglrx?
[10:55] <heinkel_111> don: bu default kubuntu is 2D
[10:55] <guhhh> Pollywog: in your case "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[10:55] <heinkel_111> don: by default kubuntu is 2D
[10:55] <guhhh> guess u already did that :)
[10:55] <don> Thats what I figured
[10:56] <fyrmedic> athena; you know of a good macro builder that will allow me to build a macro and save it on a memory stick so that I don't have to do it manually every time I upgrade the kernel
[10:56] <Pollywog> guhh yes I set nvidia and had to set it as nv to get X working
[10:56] <athena> fyrmedic, no
[10:56] <don> Xaandros has 3dfx
[10:56] <const> don, heinkel: beryl is 3D though
[10:56] <heinkel_111> don: you configure your 3d card after the initial installation, and there are proprietary drivers available for nvidia and ati cards
[10:56] <Pollywog> Xandros is a good distro but it's too long between updates
[10:56] <guhhh> ThePianoGu1: this might help you to get beryl working http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/EyeCandy#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29 and try use this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18155/ (make a backup of your xorg.conf)
[10:56] <heinkel_111> const: you don't run beryl by default in kubuntu
[10:57] <fyrmedic> athena
[10:57] <don> I plan on 3D one way or other
[10:57] <fyrmedic> athena; thanks for trying
[10:57] <vioade> hellooooooo
[10:57] <Pollywog> and I understand Xandros now requires an Internet connection to verify the license, that stinks
[10:57] <athena> lol
[10:57] <vioade> what you doing
[10:57] <vioade> ?
[10:57] <heinkel_111> don: yeah a 3d card is not a lot of hassle to configure
[10:57] <don> Ya
[10:57] <don> nice system though
[10:57] <Pollywog> my card is a 7600 GS btw
[10:57] <heinkel_111> don: is your card nvidia, ati or intel?
[10:57] <Pollywog> so it is not too old
[10:57] <vioade> no
[10:58] <const> heinkel_111: that is true. but it is great. i think anybody want to go through troubles and install it
[10:58] <don> Ati 9550 Diaamond stealth
[10:58] <heinkel_111> !ati
[10:58] <vioade> :)))))
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <heinkel_111> !fglrx
[10:58] <don> I have many to try though
[10:58] <guhhh> voice: here have a script to kde http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[10:59] <don> I think I am going 7.04 first
[10:59] <guhhh> voicu: here have a script to kde http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[10:59] <guhhh> lol, i alwasy mystype
[10:59] <guhhh> mistype
[10:59] <don> I think this groupe is great!
[11:00] <guhhh> now im going, bye, good luck with fglrx + beryl :P
[11:00] <don> I am still having trouble with wine loads dont work
[11:00] <balint> !ktorrent
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <don> Thanks for 3d site
[11:02] <plex> hi, how can i make firefox default browser in kubuntu?
[11:02] <nbcb> !rmvb
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <cox377> anyone here run azureus?
[11:02] <nbcb> what's needed to play rmvb
[11:02] <jovans> yes i
[11:02] <heinkel_111> i prefer ktorrent :)
[11:03] <nbcb> why do ktorrent always get too many open files?
[11:03] <heinkel_111> nbcb: no it is not always
[11:03] <don> lots of browsers but I cant switch either
[11:03] <heinkel_111> it works like a clock here
[11:03] <nbcb> well since its random isn't it a problem too?
[11:03] <wilman> what is the directory for xine settings?
[11:04] <nbcb> imagine finding out ur bt stopped when u woke up
[11:04] <cox377> heinkel_111: basically this is what i'm looking for, running a headless linux box just for torrents, the box will put out a web interface so torrents can be loaded via browser from another machine, shares etc etc, i've tried running the web interface in azureus and it doesnt load the page properly when loading it in a browser, however when testing on a M$ box it works fine
[11:04] <cox377> any ideas?
[11:04] <balint> Does anybody use ktorrent here???
[11:04] <coreymon77> yup
[11:04] <coreymon77> i do
[11:05] <balint> so i have a problem. i started to sed an avi. fine. just like in windows, it checked the file, and after that started to seed.
[11:05] <wilman> i use ktorrent
[11:05] <wilman> have it on and running now
[11:05] <balint> but for some othr torrents its not working :(
[11:05] <BenPA> hi all ... can any one help with a PRD printing issue in KDE
[11:05] <Pollywog> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[11:05] <Pollywog> that is what I get
[11:05] <strabes> !ask > benpa
[11:06] <balint> so instead of starting to seed, it satrts to download the archive again
[11:06] <strabes> !ask | BenPA
[11:06] <ubotu> BenPA: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:06] <solemnwarning> Since 7.04 includes PulseAudio, does kubuntu allow multiple audio streams mixed in software by default now?
[11:06] <ferent> hello everybody
[11:06] <strabes> solemnwarning: you mean from two programs at once?
[11:06] <ferent> I recent install the KDM theme manager
[11:06] <wilman> nope
[11:07] <solemnwarning> Yeah
[11:07] <balint> so, is there something about seeding in ktorrent that i dont know? :S
[11:07] <BenPA> I cannot get my Kubuntu PRD printing to work ... I put in the IP and use lp as the que but it won't work
[11:07] <coreymon77> nope
[11:07] <solemnwarning> Why not?
[11:07] <coreymon77> its just like regular seeding
[11:07] <ferent> and now when I go to that option I can't see the Administrator mode buttom
[11:07] <strabes> solemnwarning: I have no problem playing sounds from firefox and amarok at the same time. no problem.
[11:07] <solemnwarning> ok
[11:07] <solemnwarning> strabes: What sound card?
[11:07] <balint> well its not working for mee :( it starts to download the film again :(:(:(
[11:07] <strabes> solemnwarning: integrated :( using alsa
[11:07] <strabes> i have a laptop
[11:07] <coreymon77> balint: did you delete the file
[11:07] <solemnwarning> yay
[11:08] <BenPA> is there a fix or something?
[11:08] <coreymon77> balint: in order to seed, you need to have the file on your computer
[11:08] <balint> i have th file
[11:08] <balint> ktorrent just didnt recognize it :( and starts to dl again :S
[11:09] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:09] <anku> What is the preferred way to configure beryl in kubuntu?
[11:09] <Ace2016> i brought yet another mouse
[11:09] <Ace2016> it has 9 buttons
[11:09] <BenPA> is there a link or something for a fix for PRD printing?
[11:09] <Ace2016> can someone help me to set it up?
[11:10] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: back
[11:10] <ThePianoGu1> anything new?
[11:10] <coreymon77> Ace2016: plug it in
[11:10] <coreymon77> Ace2016: turn on the computer
[11:10] <balint> :):)::):)
[11:10] <mefisto__> can anyone tell me what "install scrollbar fix" does exactly? It says it installs files to the mozilla profile. I want to remove the fix.
[11:11] <Ace2016> coreymon77: some buttons don't work
[11:11] <coreymon77> Ace2016: oh well
[11:11] <coreymon77> Ace2016: what do you need 9 buttons for anyways
[11:12] <BenPA> can someone help me setup or give a link to set up network PRD printing?
[11:12] <Ace2016> coreymon77: for beryl
[11:12] <Ace2016> coreymon77: for: moving, resizing, centring, closing, and minimising, and hopefully scrollwheel+something as alt+Tab
[11:13] <nbcb> how to convert rmvb to avi?
[11:13] <coreymon77> wow
[11:13] <coreymon77> Ace2016: i dont really know
[11:13] <coreymon77> BenPA: what is you problem
[11:14] <Ace2016> nbcb: ask in #mplayer
[11:14] <BenPA> I cannot get my printer to print using network PRD printing ... I put in the IP of the printer and use lp and it doesnt work
[11:15] <balint> I figured out whats not working in ktorrent
[11:15] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, first use english,
[11:15] <Ace2016> balint: you could use azureus
[11:15] <BenPA> please be patient with me corey
[11:15] <BenPA> I use the printer setup and it fails
[11:16] <balint> when i start to seed a torrent containing a single file its ok. but when i try to start seeding a torrent wich contains a lots of .rar files, than comes the shit :(:(
[11:16] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, what printer
[11:16] <coreymon77> BenPA: company, model
[11:16] <BenPA> hp 1610
[11:16] <coreymon77> BenPA: photosmart, deskjet, officeject, psc
[11:16] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: again, I can't even get fglrx loaded!
[11:16] <BenPA> hp psc 1610
[11:16] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: anything further is useless
[11:17] <BenPA> under 6.06 I had to designate it as hp550c
[11:17] <ThePianoGu1> guhhh: I'm trying a fresh feisty kubuntu install on other partition and then reinstall edgy it it won't
[11:17] <balint> Does Wine require lots of ram and cpu time ???
[11:18] <ThePianoGu1> ballnt: usually no
[11:18] <coreymon77> BenPA: so, what is the problem
[11:18] <ThePianoGu1> balint: somewhat +10%/-30% around original Windows speed
[11:18] <coreymon77> BenPA: let me see if i can guess this
[11:18] <athena> anyone here have experience with digikam? it's annoying me
[11:18] <BenPA> ok
[11:19] <coreymon77> BenPA: you printer has the ability to plug into your network through ethernet, therefore being a sperate entitity with its own ip adress
[11:19] <balint> i would like to run utorrent on wine
[11:19] <coreymon77> BenPA: correct?
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> athena: mmmhmm?
[11:19] <jack__>  hi, i have the problem that i cannot install opera cos it would break my system says synaptic or adept:
[11:19] <lontra> sad it looks like audio isn't going to work on my lappy under linux for the time being ...
[11:19] <BenPA> yes, but I use a wireless print server
[11:19] <jack__> see it here :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18150/
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> balint: you're better off with ktorrent, but it's your choice :)
[11:19] <athena> Daisuke_Ido, whenever I open an image it scales it... even if the image's resolution is less than my display's resolution
[11:19] <athena> which means that everything looks horrendous when I view it...
[11:19] <BenPA> this setup worked under 6.06 but 6.10 does not work
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, i can see how that would be a problem
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> let me look real quick
[11:20] <balint> Daisuke_ldo ktorrent cant handle my seeds properly :@
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, utorrent under wine is the second best option
[11:20] <coreymon77> BenPA: why do you ues a sever
[11:21] <BenPA> I am wireless on my pc in another room
[11:21] <coreymon77> BenPA: cant you just plug it in to your router and use it like that
[11:21] <BenPA> no
[11:21] <BenPA> it is located in another room of the house
[11:22] <balint> Daisuke_ldo and what about azureus?
[11:22] <balint> im downloading it now, i hope it works
[11:22] <BenPA> maybe I can shed some more light on this ... under 6.10
[11:22] <BenPA> there are several drivers
[11:22] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, i knwo
[11:23] <coreymon77> BenPA: wait
[11:23] <BenPA> I am not sure if they are not working right
[11:23] <Daisuke_Ido> athena: i learned to live with it, but looking, i can't find an actual setting to keep it from scaling up while still scaling down
[11:23] <coreymon77> BenPA: how do you nromally print
[11:23] <athena> Daisuke_Ido, :-(
[11:23] <athena> 250x250 -> 1600x1200 is not tolerable :-\
[11:24] <BenPA> I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 ... under 6.06 I had the same setup wireless printing using PRD
[11:24] <athena> Daisuke_Ido, oh well, it looks like there's a bug filed on the digikam tracker so all is well
[11:25] <coreymon77> BenPA: sorry, im completely lost as to your problem, can you try asking someone else
[11:25] <BenPA> :(
[11:25] <coreymon77> BenPA: nvm that
[11:25] <BenPA> can I try again
[11:25] <coreymon77> BenPA: let me try and do this
[11:26] <BenPA> ok
[11:26] <nbcb> !realplayer
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <balint> In firestarter, how can i enable azureus?
[11:26] <BenPA> ok
[11:26] <balint> just type in at the rules: azureus
[11:26] <balint> ?
[11:27] <gianpy> kubuntu.it
[11:28] <coreymon77> BenPA: how do you connect your printer to a server
[11:28] <dwidmann> duct tape :P
[11:28] <BenPA> it plugs into my router via a wireless print server
[11:29] <coreymon77> okay
[11:29] <BenPA> it has it's own ip address
[11:29] <coreymon77> oaky
[11:29] <coreymon77> good
[11:29] <coreymon77> can your printer connect to the router directly, wihtout the server, through an ethernet cable
[11:29] <BenPA> no
[11:30] <BenPA> I have several computer connected and they all work
[11:30] <luca> good day to everyone
[11:30] <balint> hmmm azureus sucks, and ktorrent is unable to handle seeding properly :S
[11:30] <balint> my last chance is wine+utorent
[11:31] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, so your printer has its own ip adress
[11:31] <BenPA> my ip settings are not holding under kubuntu 6.10
[11:31] <luca> does anyone here own a dell inspiron laptop with nvidia card?
[11:31] <BenPA> yes
[11:31] <nbcb> how to uninstall my realplayer?
[11:31] <coreymon77> BenPA: so when you run the printer setup wizard
[11:31] <|StOnE|> i want beryl how i can intall that
[11:31] <coreymon77> you choose the network printer optiuon
[11:31] <coreymon77> and then put in your printers ip right?
[11:31] <BenPA> yes
[11:32] <BenPA> hold one sec
[11:33] <coreymon77> BenPA: are you using edgy feisty or dapper
[11:33] <BenPA> edgy
[11:33] <coreymon77> okay, that makes things more complicated
[11:33] <BenPA> I upgraded from dapper
[11:33] <|StOnE|> any person can help me
[11:33] <|StOnE|> ?
[11:34] <freakwency> how do i tell what version i am using
[11:34] <mrgv> stone: go to irc.freenode.org #beryl
[11:34] <BenPA> actually I went from dapper to feisty lost everything and installed edgy
[11:34] <|StOnE|> i want beryl and edgy how i can install that
[11:34] <mrgv> you'll find help easier there
[11:34] <|StOnE|> ok
[11:34] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, so
[11:35] <redfive> i just got beryl workin on 7.04
[11:35] <coreymon77> BenPA: so you enter in the ip adress in the box in the kde print wizard
[11:35] <redfive> it was easy
[11:35] <coreymon77> then what
[11:35] <BenPA> yes
[11:35] <coreymon77> BenPA: you go to choose the driver right?
[11:35] <BenPA> I put in lp in the queue box then to to driver
[11:36] <redfive> there are many guides on beryl
[11:36] <zuman> hi
[11:36] <levon> hello everyone how would i install smb
[11:36] <zuman> i'm having a big problem with amarok
[11:36] <coreymon77> BenPA: what do you mean by lp
[11:37] <coreymon77> aoky
[11:37] <levon> i went to the pkg manager but it has so many lol
[11:37] <zuman> freezes on startup....
[11:37] <coreymon77> BenPA: lets walk through the printer wizrd now
[11:37] <coreymon77> BenPA: go to it
[11:37] <BenPA> under PRD it ask for ip and printer queue ... I use "lp"
[11:37] <BenPA> ok
[11:37] <BenPA> I have it up
[11:37] <BenPA> I start with add
[11:37] <coreymon77> click on administrator mode
[11:38] <zuman> does anyone have amarok working on feisty?????
[11:38] <BenPA> Pinter/Class
[11:38] <lontra> what do i need to do to install to recompile alsa and add a patch?
[11:38] <BenPA> Printer/Class
[11:39] <BenPA> then choose remote LPD queue
[11:39] <redfive> zuman, yes
[11:39] <jussi01> zuman: me
[11:39] <coreymon77> wait
[11:39] <coreymon77> wait a sec
[11:39] <BenPA> ok
[11:39] <coreymon77> BenPA: close the wizard
[11:39] <zuman> jussi01: did amarok ever have problems when you first installed?
[11:39] <BenPA> ok, closed
[11:39] <coreymon77> BenPA: but keep the printer part of system settings open
[11:39] <dwidmann> lontra: well, first you'll have to download the source tarball, then unpack it, run patch /path/to/theoriginalfile /path/to/thepatchfile, then run ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:40] <BenPA> hold a sec
[11:40] <coreymon77> BenPA: open printers in system settings
[11:40] <BenPA> I did
[11:40] <dwidmann> lontra: perhaps you'd be able to do something like "fakeroot debian/rules configure" instead of "./configure && make && sudo make install" though.
[11:40] <coreymon77> BenPA: click on the administrator mode button
[11:40] <zuman> at least someone's amarok works....it seems to be broken from the install.
[11:41] <BenPA> ok
[11:41] <jussi01> zuman: no problems here
[11:41] <coreymon77> BenPA: are you in administrator mode right now?
[11:41] <redfive> mine works
[11:41] <BenPA> yes
[11:41] <redfive> what dosent work on it?
[11:41] <coreymon77> okay
[11:41] <jussi01> zuman: though there was someone in with a problem the other day...
[11:41] <coreymon77> BenPA: now go click on add printer
[11:42] <lontra> patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input.  <- what's that mean?
[11:42] <BenPA> ok
[11:42] <dwidmann> lontra: not sure ... maybe it's a different type of patch
[11:42] <BenPA> it only gives me one option
[11:42] <coreymon77> BenPA: now you said that your printer has its own ip adress and is a seperate entity on the network right
[11:42] <zuman> jussi01: really?  what was the problem....maybe it is similar to mine....
[11:42] <BenPA> yes
[11:42] <dwidmann> lontra: what's the extension on the patch file?
[11:42] <lontra> dwidmann: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2725
[11:43] <lontra> dwidmann: i'm trying to apply that patch to get alsa to work
[11:43] <BenPA> there is only one option available
[11:43] <jussi01> zuman: he had probs when installing the install on demand codecs
[11:43] <coreymon77> okay, for printer type click on network printer (tcp)
[11:43] <BenPA> add special (psuedo) printer
[11:43] <coreymon77> ???
[11:43] <coreymon77> okay
[11:44] <coreymon77> down at the button, for print system currently used
[11:44] <coreymon77> BenPA: is CUPS selected
[11:44] <BenPA> wait
[11:44] <balint> in a terminal, how can a write a space?
[11:44] <zuman> jussi01:my amarok just keeps loading and loading and loading....until I kill it several minutes later.  It hasn't even gotten to point of asking for plugins.
[11:44] <BenPA> now it is
[11:44] <balint> i want to run utorrent:     wine  /media/hda1/Program Files/uTorrent/utorrent.exe
[11:44] <zuman> jussi01: I even reinstalled via source package on amarok site and I still experience the same problem.
[11:45] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, it wasnt before
[11:45] <BenPA> ok now the wizard starts
[11:45] <coreymon77> BenPA: now first lets try this
[11:45] <zuman> jussi01: as well as xine and just about every library connected to xine and amarok....still no dough
[11:45] <redfive> anyone here good with beryl?
[11:45] <BenPA> no, there was another one in there the LPD option
[11:45] <BenPA> ok, go ahead
[11:45] <jussi01> zuman: hav you done sudo apt-get remove --purge amorak  ??
[11:46] <zuman> i'm kinda afraid to do that...it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop with amarok!
[11:46] <sonicamix> Hi all
[11:46] <don>  hi
[11:46] <coreymon77> BenPA: for printer type, choose netowrk printer (tcp)
[11:46] <sonicamix> Some one speak Spanish? :s
[11:46] <BenPA> ok
[11:46] <don> it all greek to me
[11:47] <zuman> jussi01:but I can give it a try anyway
[11:47] <balint> help me pls, how can i run applications with wine? it cant recognize spacebar in the terminal :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[11:47] <BenPA> corey should I use http://192.168.0.33 or just 192.168.0.33
[11:47] <coreymon77> BenPA: now for printer address, put in your printers ip
[11:47] <coreymon77> just the ip
[11:48] <BenPA> port?
[11:48] <coreymon77> BenPA: nothing
[11:48] <BenPA> ok
[11:48] <zuman> jussi01: reinstalling amarok again right now...
[11:48] <coreymon77> click next
[11:48] <dwidmann> lontra, still there?
[11:49] <jussi01> zuman: good luck
[11:49] <coreymon77> BenPA: its on a driver selection page right
[11:49] <BenPA> it says no printer found at address or port
[11:49] <redfive> i love beryl
[11:49] <zuman> jussi01: no go....amarok sits there taking 99% CPU
[11:49] <lontra> dwidmann: i found a ubuntu wiki i'm following
[11:50] <coreymon77> BenPA: you sreu thats the correct ip
[11:50] <dwidmann> lontra: another option would be to use kompare to apply the patch, that should be an easy functional method, I think
[11:50] <BenPA> no, it did not advance
[11:50] <BenPA> yes
[11:50] <jussi01> zuman: nasty
[11:50] <BenPA> I went into the router
[11:50] <BenPA> to get the ip
[11:50] <coreymon77> BenPA: not the router, the printers ip
[11:50] <coreymon77> BenPA: not the routers
[11:51] <BenPA> I know but I made sure
[11:51] <BenPA> the ip is static
[11:51] <zuman> jussi01:feisty has been one disappointment after another so far....
[11:51] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay then
[11:51] <coreymon77> BenPA: i guess thats not gonna work
[11:51] <redfive> anyyone know how to get the task bar to blurr with beryl? this is in kde
[11:51] <BenPA> it's looking for a port number
[11:51] <BenPA> ok
[11:51] <coreymon77> BenPA: wait a sec
[11:52] <coreymon77> BenPA: whats looking for a port number
[11:52] <jussi01> zuman: thats really weird... I have absolutely no problems - its fantastic
[11:52] <zuman> jussi01:  Looking at launchpad, appears to be known issue....
[11:52] <BenPA> on the page I entered the ip ... the wizard is looking for a port number
[11:52] <zuman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/84967
[11:53] <coreymon77> BenPA: what did the error message say
[11:53] <zuman> i have the same symptoms, though it never asked anything about MP3 support
[11:53] <BenPA> it says no printer found at address/ port
[11:53] <coreymon77> BenPA: okay, it doesnt need a port
[11:53] <coreymon77> just press back
[11:54] <coreymon77> and choose remote lpd queue as the type
[11:54] <zuman> jussi01:how did you upgrade to feisty (livecd, alternate, or through edgy)
[11:54] <BenPA> ok
[11:54] <coreymon77> BenPA: that is what you printer is right
[11:54] <jussi01> zuman: I fresh installed from the live cd
[11:54] <zuman> jussi01: I used the alternate cd...
[11:54] <zuman> fresh install
[11:54] <BenPA> it's asking for host and queue
[11:55] <sonicamix> somebody can help me to install drivers of my video card?
[11:55] <coreymon77> BenPA: well then find those things out
[11:55] <coreymon77> BenPA: i have no expreience with lpd queues
[11:55] <coreymon77> BenPA: so you just need to find that info out
[11:56] <coreymon77> BenPA: what info did you use when you installed it on edgy
[11:56] <BenPA> I did
[11:56] <coreymon77> BenPA: you entered the info and it accepted it?
[11:56] <BenPA> you mean on dapper ... I entered the ip and "lp"
[11:57] <BenPA> no it didnt
[11:57] <coreymon77> BenPA: nvm that
[11:57] <levon> i still havent figured out how to install teh smb server
[11:57] <levon> *the
[11:58] <BenPA> not sure what nvm is
[11:58] <zuman> jussi01:xine doesn't work either...i think it may be related to the amarok freeze
[11:58] <coreymon77> BenPA: did you find out the info that the wizard wanted
[11:58] <levon> never mind
[11:58] <BenPA> nope
[11:58] <coreymon77> BenPA: nvm=nevermind
[11:58] <BenPA> oh, ok
[11:58] <levon> yep see
[11:58] <coreymon77> okay
[11:58] <jussi01> zuman: get a new disc and try again... it might be a fscked disk...
[11:58] <coreymon77> umm
[11:58] <coreymon77> who knows anything about remote lpd queue printers
[11:59] <BenPA> I tried all of the ip's in the range and none work ... just in case something changed
[11:59] <levon> okay how would i install the smb server guys need some help cant figure out what packages and i dont plan on installing them all lol
[11:59] <zuman> jussi01:alright...I'll try that...thanks for your help...
[11:59] <zuman> bye
[11:59] <jussi01> zuman: bye
[11:59] <jussi01> zuman: np's
[11:59] <coreymon77> who knows someting about remote lpd queue printers
[12:00] <lontra> what package provides the following file t-ja.gmo
[12:00] <BenPA> ok, corey ... I did see something about a problem with this wizard in google I will try and find it again
[12:00] <coreymon77> its no big deal
[12:00] <coreymon77> i just dont knwo what the wizard want
[12:00] <coreymon77> s
[12:00] <coreymon77> if we can find that out
[12:00] <BenPA> thanks for your help .. when I get it to work I will let you know
[12:02] <levon> smb anyone??
[12:02] <madmike> damn I'm goin through hell to find memory for my box
[12:03] <don> what kind?
[12:04] <madmike> it's supposed to be regular ddr pc3200 but I gt two GB's and neither work
[12:04] <mehdouch> levon why u can't lsten to musique in other pc windows whene i'm using smb
[12:04] <levon> hu?
[12:04] <levon> oh
[12:04] <don> had strange trouble also,swaped to other box worked fine
[12:04] <madmike> thid is the weird stuff.....
[12:05] <levon> lol you need to get the libxine1
[12:05] <don> ya
[12:05] <don> mine tried to boot from ram
[12:05] <mehdouch> levon: ok levon how?? plz
[12:05] <levon> mehdouch you need libxine1 and make sure that the smb server is mounted correctly you might not have enough permissions
[12:06] <madmike> i put in a dimm with the memory I already have and it works for a bit then crashes out of no where but I put just the new memory in and bam nothing works at all
[12:06] <levon> mehdouch try this
[12:06] <levon> sudo apt-get install libxine1
[12:06] <don> re seat again
[12:07] <madmike> I'v pulled it in and out a bunch of tiems and nothing i put both dimms in and I can't even get passed the BIOS
[12:07] <levon> mehdouch you still with me??
[12:07] <mehdouch> yes
[12:07] <luca> good day again
[12:07] <madmike> I'm thinking my box just hates this kinda ram for some odd reson
[12:07] <levon> did you do that?
[12:07] <don> try only one
[12:07] <mehdouch> libxine-main1
[12:07] <levon> nope lol
[12:08] <luca> I need to keep the nvidia module loaded when going into suspend, does anyone know how to add it to the blacklist?
[12:08] <levon> do this sudo apt-get install libxine1
[12:08] <imagine> is the problem with the kernel and no sound going to be fixed soon??
[12:08] <mehdouch> levon not libxine1 but libxine1-main1
[12:08] <don> could be trade with another
[12:08] <madmike> if I put only one DIMM in it gets passed the BIOS but will not bott anything passed GRUB
[12:08] <levon> okay do that then
[12:08] <madmike> bott= passed
[12:08] <don> used memory?
[12:08] <madmike> lol
[12:08] <levon> after you get that see if you can listen to the music
[12:08] <madmike> nope new from best buy
[12:09] <don> hmmm
[12:09] <levon> can you here music from you computer
[12:09] <madmike> I'm thinking and Hopeing it's just crap
[12:09] <levon> not from anothers
[12:09] <don> nonecc?
[12:09] <mehdouch> levon yes
[12:09] <mehdouch> i'cant listen te the music from my own computer
[12:09] <madmike> I was thinking that it does not sat say if it is ECC or not
[12:10] <levon> okay goto system menu remote places
[12:10] <levon> click on smb
[12:10] <madmike> cause my box uses only non-ecc
[12:10] <levon> samba shares
[12:10] <don> could be check bios see if it can use it
[12:10] <mehdouch> levon yes...
[12:10] <levon> do you see the computer with the shares?
[12:10] <madmike> ECC does not work on this box
[12:11] <mehdouch> yes levon i see
[12:11] <don> it will not work then
[12:11] <levon> try to open the music and see what error it gives you
[12:11] <don> take it back
[12:11] <mehdouch> levon nothing happind
[12:12] <levon> right click open with amaroke
[12:12] <madmike> yeah I'm going to and headiing over to pc club to get some better ram
[12:12] <don> I have had some work in one and not the other
[12:13] <madmike> Best Buy = K-Mart of computers
[12:13] <imagine> is the problem with the kernel and no sound going to be fixed soon??
[12:13] <levon> if that doesnt work try asking the  channel because i wouldnt be sure after that it has something to do with your permissions on the other host
[12:13] <madmike> thanks don for the bit of he;lp
[12:13] <madmike> :-)
[12:13] <don> need at least 256 to get up
[12:13] <crimsun> imagine: I need more information than that to diagnose your problem
[12:14] <don> ya