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cjwatson | BenC: ubuntu-modules didn't actually appear in the NEW queue, so if you were intending it to be there you have a bug | 02:22 |
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cjwatson | oh, unless it's from the linux-ubuntu-modules source, which I guess it would have to be | 02:23 |
cjwatson | duh. /me -> bed | 02:23 |
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BenC | cjwatson: heh, thanks | 03:36 |
crimsun | BenC: you're listed as the feisty contact; should I still send you patches for feisty-updates? | 03:37 |
BenC | crimsun: feisty -> pkl && kernel-team@ | 03:38 |
BenC | crimsun: [FEISTY] in the subject too | 03:38 |
crimsun | BenC: ok, thanks. I read a couple emails from k-t@ and was perplexed, since the wiki still mentions you being the contact | 03:39 |
BenC | crimsun: Ah, I need to update that, thanks | 03:39 |
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BenC | [WIRELESS] cfg80211: New wireless config infrastructure. | 06:05 |
BenC | yay | 06:05 |
BenC | Driver core: udev triggered device-<>driver binding | 06:09 |
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fabbione | BenC: still awake? | 07:17 |
dade` | morning here | 07:23 |
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fabbione | BenC: kernel headers are busted. | 07:31 |
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rpereira | Hi. Does someone knows how to active CRT on an laptop with 945gm? | 08:18 |
rpereira | When I use i810switch: I'm getting this error | 08:18 |
rpereira | : | 08:18 |
rpereira | PCI id of i810 is not recognized | 08:18 |
dade` | wait | 08:21 |
dade` | this is not an help channel | 08:21 |
dade` | and even if it would be, your question is not kernel related | 08:21 |
dade` | hm, "even if it was" I guess | 08:22 |
dade` | anyway, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook | 08:22 |
dade` | there are some example xorg configuration to enable dual monitor | 08:22 |
dade` | and join #ubuntu for support | 08:23 |
rpereira | Thank you dade` and sorry. | 08:33 |
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abogani | BenC, ping | 10:31 |
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abogani | Who is the kernel-team list moderator? | 12:20 |
abogani | lamont, Are you kernel-team list moderator? | 12:23 |
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lamont | hrm.. hard to answer people when they disappear | 03:53 |
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defendguin | something happened between release and now and now the laptop lid close doesn't suspend the laptop. I have checked my settings in power manager and they are still set to suspend on lid close. | 04:49 |
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defendguin | how can i pin point what the problem is so i can put some decent information in the bug report | 05:23 |
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abogani | Who is the kernel-team list moderator? I should send a patch in the mailing list but email never reach it... | 05:37 |
Nafallo | abogani: 15:53 < lamont> hrm.. hard to answer people when they disappear | 05:39 |
abogani | Nafallo: Ok, thanks. | 05:42 |
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toocrazypt | hi | 06:49 |
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cjwatson | BenC: kernel headers seem badly broken | 07:02 |
cjwatson | BenC: e.g. http://librarian.launchpad.net/7446222/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.busybox_1%3A1.1.3-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz, http://librarian.launchpad.net/7451197/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-sparc.busybox_1%3A1.1.3-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz, http://librarian.launchpad.net/7453000/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.netcfg_1.37ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:03 |
BenC | cjwatson: missing build-dep for 'tr' command (coreutils | 07:03 |
BenC | ) | 07:03 |
BenC | cjwatson: preparing an upload now | 07:03 |
cjwatson | you don't need to build-dep on coreutils - it's Essential: yes | 07:03 |
BenC | then something was broken on the buildd's | 07:03 |
cjwatson | is it visible in the build log? | 07:04 |
BenC | FNAME=$(patsubst $(INSTALL_HDR_PATH)/$(_dst)/%,%,$@) \ | 07:04 |
BenC | STUBDEF=__ASM_STUB_`echo $$FNAME | tr a-z.- A-Z__`; \ | 07:04 |
BenC | no, hidden by quite kbuild system :/ | 07:04 |
cjwatson | what might FNAME end up being? | 07:04 |
cjwatson | (example) | 07:05 |
BenC | stat.h | 07:05 |
BenC | cjwatson: note, the linux-libc-dev built locally for me ended up just fine | 07:05 |
BenC | I tested it before upload, and checked the ones I have built here | 07:05 |
cjwatson | could it be locale-dependent? | 07:05 |
BenC | I export LANG=C in debian/rules | 07:06 |
cjwatson | LANG doesn't override, might be worth exporting LC_ALL=C instead | 07:06 |
BenC | this is the same code in linux-source-2.6.20 too, so it's not anything new | 07:06 |
cjwatson | just in case LC_COLLATE is set to something mad | 07:06 |
cjwatson | ok | 07:06 |
BenC | oh, right, we use LC_ALL=C | 07:06 |
BenC | export DH_COMPAT=4 | 07:07 |
BenC | export LC_ALL=C | 07:07 |
BenC | export SHELL=/bin/bash -e | 07:07 |
cjwatson | in what file is the error visible? | 07:07 |
BenC | all files in /usr/include/asm/ | 07:07 |
BenC | since they are stubs to asm-i386 and asm-x86_64 | 07:08 |
cjwatson | oh I see, just __ASM_STUB_ with no suffix | 07:08 |
BenC | right | 07:08 |
cjwatson | I think it's more likely to be buggy make syntax | 07:08 |
BenC | why would it work on my build systems and not on the buildds? | 07:09 |
BenC | the only difference is these are running feisty still | 07:09 |
BenC | FNAME=$(patsubst $(INSTALL_HDR_PATH)/$(_dst)/%,%,$@) \ | 07:09 |
BenC | STUBDEF=__ASM_STUB_`echo $$FNAME | tr a-z.- A-Z__`; \ | 07:09 |
BenC | that's from 2.6.20... | 07:09 |
BenC | exact same code | 07:10 |
BenC | this is all in scripts/Makefile.headersinst btw | 07:10 |
cjwatson | I don't know, just saying missing tr on the buildds is massively unlikely | 07:10 |
BenC | what about a broken tr? | 07:11 |
BenC | let me get gutsy coreutils | 07:11 |
cjwatson | coreutils | 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 | feisty | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc | 07:11 |
cjwatson | coreutils | 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 | gutsy | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc | 07:11 |
cjwatson | identical | 07:11 |
cjwatson | unless libc broke it | 07:11 |
BenC | could be that too | 07:11 |
BenC | let me get a gutsy chroot and try these commands | 07:12 |
cjwatson | building a fix is going to be fun at this rate :-/ | 07:12 |
cjwatson | probably shouldn't have done a sync pass today with this broken | 07:12 |
cjwatson | so ia64 and powerpc should still be fine | 07:14 |
cjwatson | infinity: we'll need a manual bootstrap to get us out of this, I suspect | 07:17 |
BenC | yeah, because kernel build does compile userspace stuff :/ | 07:19 |
cjwatson | well, unless the glibc build can be done with broken kernel headers | 07:20 |
BenC | but still need to build new linux-libc-dev | 07:21 |
cjwatson | oh, right, yeah | 07:21 |
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BenC | 10 more minutes till I get this updated gutsy chroot | 07:30 |
cjwatson | I'm partway through a debootstrap now | 07:34 |
cjwatson | # echo stat.h | tr a-z.- A-Z__ | 07:35 |
cjwatson | STAT_H | 07:35 |
cjwatson | works fine here, though this is powerpc | 07:35 |
BenC | doing mine on amd64... | 07:36 |
cjwatson | version of make is the same in feisty and gutsy | 07:36 |
cjwatson | likewise for both dash and bash | 07:37 |
BenC | works for me too | 07:37 |
BenC | let me run a headers_install and see what happens | 07:37 |
cjwatson | is it possible that INSTALL_HDR_PATH is bust or something? | 07:37 |
cjwatson | or something else that would cause FNAME to be empty | 07:38 |
cjwatson | this does happen if that fragment of make is run in dash | 07:40 |
BenC | works fine here locally | 07:41 |
cjwatson | what's your /bin/sh? | 07:41 |
BenC | bash | 07:41 |
cjwatson | set it to dash as is now standard on Ubuntu, I bet it'll fail | 07:41 |
cjwatson | the buildds only switched to that in gutsy | 07:41 |
cjwatson | putting a semicolon after FNAME=... and before STUBDEF=... should fix it | 07:42 |
cjwatson | yep, confirmed in a microtestcase | 07:42 |
BenC | boom | 07:42 |
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BenC | SHELL=/bin/bash fixes it | 07:43 |
cjwatson | I've mailed ubuntu-devel@ so fewer people will panic about build failures | 07:44 |
cjwatson | I would recommend adding the semicolon too | 07:45 |
cjwatson | from my reading of http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_09_01 it's actually a bash bug that it works | 07:46 |
cjwatson | "Each variable assignment shall be expanded for tilde expansion, parameter expansion, command substitution, arithmetic expansion, and quote removal prior to assigning the value." | 07:46 |
cjwatson | well, hmm, it doesn't say whether it goes expand expand assign assign or expand assign expand assign, so it's probably just unspecified and bash is entitled to its interpretation | 07:46 |
cjwatson | I'll be out for most of the rest of the evening - I'd suggest mailing Adam instructions for recovery | 07:48 |
BenC | ok | 07:48 |
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BenC | starting a build...initial packages look ok, but I have a big linux-2.6 sync to make sure is working | 08:06 |
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abogani | BenC: May i disturb you about kernel-team mailing list? I would write emails about -rt kernel and my spec (wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)... but no email reach the this mailing-list :-( | 10:08 |
BenC | kernel-team moderator will pick it up within a day or so | 10:08 |
BenC | cjwatson: Uploading a package with just the SHELL= fix | 10:11 |
BenC | current HEAD has some build issues, so just getting this out | 10:12 |
abogani | BenC: It isn't first time... I attempted from january to write emails in kernel-team mailing-list (when i started my spec on realtime)... | 10:13 |
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BenC | abogani: are you sub'd to the list? | 10:14 |
BenC | you should be sending emails from your subscribed address | 10:14 |
abogani | BenC: Yes i read every email... | 10:14 |
eean | I still have to cp ipw3945d-2.6.20-15-generic into existance | 10:14 |
BenC | does it send you an email back saying you were moderated? | 10:14 |
eean | otherwise my wireless card doesn't work | 10:15 |
BenC | eean: maybe because you have to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic | 10:15 |
eean | maybe so! | 10:15 |
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BenC | install linux-generic to make sure you get it all, and stay updated | 10:15 |
abogani | BenC: Yes but after nothing happen.. | 10:15 |
eean | BenC: yep, doing. | 10:16 |
eean | is there a way to go back and delete old kernels and their modules automatically? | 10:17 |
BenC | automatically, no | 10:17 |
eean | hmm | 10:17 |
BenC | although, "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove" might do it | 10:18 |
eean | I guess normally it doesn't build up so much | 10:18 |
eean | like it did the weeks before feisty was released | 10:18 |
Nafallo | BenC: I hope they are marked as manually installed. | 10:18 |
BenC | yeah, normally you only see a problem when you follow the development cycle | 10:18 |
eean | ah nifty | 10:18 |
BenC | Nafallo: no, linux-image-generic pulls them in most times | 10:18 |
Nafallo | BenC: yea, but the code for autoremove marks them manually installed IIRC. | 10:19 |
Nafallo | BenC: if not, I would consider that a bug. | 10:19 |
BenC | I wouldn't | 10:19 |
Nafallo | nothing should EVER remove a kernel without me explicitly telling it to :-) | 10:19 |
eean | autoremove is explicit | 10:19 |
BenC | if you run "autoremove" you are telling it to :) | 10:19 |
eean | doesn't happy by itself | 10:20 |
eean | doesn't *happena | 10:20 |
eean | blah ;) | 10:20 |
Nafallo | hmm. some users might not check what packages will be removed :-P | 10:20 |
Nafallo | I want that shiny cleanup tool I've seen specs about for a while now :-) | 10:21 |
eean | and such users need old kernels hanging around? | 10:21 |
Nafallo | I'm paranoid about kernels since I did an dist-upgrade that removed the running kernel and failed to install the new one ;-) | 10:21 |
eean | ah well that would make sense | 10:21 |
eean | ah suck! | 10:22 |
Nafallo | I had better words coming from me at the time :-P | 10:23 |
eean | actually had a similar problem, I manually uninstalled old kernels and the new kernels initrd wasn't correctly installed | 10:23 |
abogani | BenC: I don't want bother you with my stupid problem... Who can resolve my problem? _Only_ lamont? | 10:23 |
BenC | abogani: and kyle, but he is getting ready to travel, so probably isn't around | 10:23 |
BenC | abogani: best bet is to make sure your From matches the address you are sub'd to the list with | 10:24 |
abogani | BenC: Yes it is..... :-( In the meanwhile where i can send emails about -rt kernel? | 10:26 |
BenC | abogani: depends on what your sending | 10:28 |
abogani | BenC: Or You prefer this channel? :-) | 10:28 |
BenC | what are you sending? | 10:29 |
abogani | BenC: Part cuted from my email :-) "Attached to this email the realtime flavour diff for the new Gutsy kernel build system. I removed all things non strictly related to realtime preemption patch (kvm/paravirt/hypercall)." | 10:29 |
abogani | "I see, in gutsy's git tree, that BenC has already do all the works." | 10:30 |
BenC | abogani: Ah, cool...I actually included ingo's stock 2.6.21-rt1 patch, but if you can email me the new patch directly, I can include it | 10:30 |
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abogani | BenC: Done. | 10:33 |
BenC | abogani: thanks | 10:34 |
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abogani | BenC: Where i can found git tree of the l-u-m and l-r-m ? I promised to UbuntuStudio guys all packages (headers, image, debug, all meta, l-u-m, l-r-m) for realtime kernel... | 10:36 |
BenC | abogani: they are private, but you need not worry about that | 10:36 |
BenC | lum and lrm are already done | 10:37 |
BenC | linux-meta wont be uploaded for a few weeks | 10:37 |
abogani | BenC: Thanks a lot! Kernel-team's people are incredible! :-) | 10:39 |
BenC | np :) | 10:39 |
abogani | BenC: Last thing... Who have kernel realtime's bugs assigned? | 10:42 |
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abogani | BenC: Me, Kernel Team , UbuntuStudio Team ?!? | 10:43 |
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BenC | abogani: I was going to assign them to ubuntu-studio | 10:58 |
abogani | BenC: I don't know if it is the right thing... | 11:05 |
BenC | I would rather assign them to a team than a person | 11:06 |
BenC | and preferably not the kernel team | 11:06 |
BenC | ubuntu-studio has a vested interested in this patch | 11:07 |
abogani | BenC: Ok i understand. Thanks for all! | 11:08 |
BenC | thank you | 11:08 |
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