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cjwatsonBenC: ubuntu-modules didn't actually appear in the NEW queue, so if you were intending it to be there you have a bug02:22
cjwatsonoh, unless it's from the linux-ubuntu-modules source, which I guess it would have to be02:23
cjwatsonduh. /me -> bed02:23
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BenCcjwatson: heh, thanks03:36
crimsunBenC: you're listed as the feisty contact; should I still send you patches for feisty-updates?03:37
BenCcrimsun: feisty -> pkl && kernel-team@03:38
BenCcrimsun: [FEISTY]  in the subject too03:38
crimsunBenC: ok, thanks. I read a couple emails from k-t@ and was perplexed, since the wiki still mentions you being the contact03:39
BenCcrimsun: Ah, I need to update that, thanks03:39
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BenC      [WIRELESS]  cfg80211: New wireless config infrastructure.06:05
BenCyay06:05
BenC    Driver core: udev triggered device-<>driver binding06:09
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fabbioneBenC: still awake?07:17
dade`morning here07:23
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fabbioneBenC: kernel headers are busted.07:31
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rpereiraHi. Does someone knows how to active CRT on an laptop with 945gm?08:18
rpereira When I use i810switch: I'm getting this error08:18
rpereira:08:18
rpereira PCI id of i810 is not recognized08:18
dade`wait08:21
dade`this is not an help channel08:21
dade`and even if it would be, your question is not kernel related08:21
dade`hm, "even if it was" I guess08:22
dade`anyway, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook08:22
dade`there are some example xorg configuration to enable dual monitor08:22
dade`and join #ubuntu for support08:23
rpereiraThank you dade` and sorry.08:33
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aboganiBenC, ping10:31
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aboganiWho is the kernel-team list moderator? 12:20
aboganilamont, Are you kernel-team list moderator?12:23
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lamonthrm.. hard to answer people when they disappear03:53
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defendguinsomething happened between release and now and now the laptop lid close doesn't suspend the laptop.  I have checked my settings in power manager and they are still set to suspend on lid close.04:49
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defendguinhow can i pin point what the problem is so i can put some decent information in the bug report05:23
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aboganiWho is the kernel-team list moderator? I should send a patch in the mailing list but email never reach it...05:37
Nafalloabogani: 15:53 < lamont> hrm.. hard to answer people when they disappear05:39
aboganiNafallo: Ok, thanks.05:42
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toocrazypthi06:49
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cjwatsonBenC: kernel headers seem badly broken07:02
cjwatsonBenC: e.g. http://librarian.launchpad.net/7446222/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.busybox_1%3A1.1.3-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz, http://librarian.launchpad.net/7451197/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-sparc.busybox_1%3A1.1.3-4ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz, http://librarian.launchpad.net/7453000/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.netcfg_1.37ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz07:03
BenCcjwatson: missing build-dep for 'tr' command (coreutils07:03
BenC)07:03
BenCcjwatson: preparing an upload now07:03
cjwatsonyou don't need to build-dep on coreutils - it's Essential: yes07:03
BenCthen something was broken on the buildd's07:03
cjwatsonis it visible in the build log?07:04
BenCFNAME=$(patsubst $(INSTALL_HDR_PATH)/$(_dst)/%,%,$@)                    \07:04
BenCSTUBDEF=__ASM_STUB_`echo $$FNAME | tr a-z.- A-Z__`;                     \07:04
BenCno, hidden by quite kbuild system :/07:04
cjwatsonwhat might FNAME end up being?07:04
cjwatson(example)07:05
BenCstat.h07:05
BenCcjwatson: note, the linux-libc-dev built locally for me ended up just fine07:05
BenCI tested it before upload, and checked the ones I have built here07:05
cjwatsoncould it be locale-dependent?07:05
BenCI export LANG=C in debian/rules07:06
cjwatsonLANG doesn't override, might be worth exporting LC_ALL=C instead07:06
BenCthis is the same code in linux-source-2.6.20 too, so it's not anything new07:06
cjwatsonjust in case LC_COLLATE is set to something mad07:06
cjwatsonok07:06
BenCoh, right, we use LC_ALL=C07:06
BenCexport DH_COMPAT=407:07
BenCexport LC_ALL=C07:07
BenCexport SHELL=/bin/bash -e07:07
cjwatsonin what file is the error visible?07:07
BenCall files in /usr/include/asm/07:07
BenCsince they are stubs to asm-i386 and asm-x86_6407:08
cjwatsonoh I see, just __ASM_STUB_ with no suffix07:08
BenCright07:08
cjwatsonI think it's more likely to be buggy make syntax07:08
BenCwhy would it work on my build systems and not on the buildds?07:09
BenCthe only difference is these are running feisty still07:09
BenCFNAME=$(patsubst $(INSTALL_HDR_PATH)/$(_dst)/%,%,$@)                    \07:09
BenCSTUBDEF=__ASM_STUB_`echo $$FNAME | tr a-z.- A-Z__`;                     \07:09
BenCthat's from 2.6.20...07:09
BenCexact same code07:10
BenCthis is all in scripts/Makefile.headersinst btw07:10
cjwatsonI don't know, just saying missing tr on the buildds is massively unlikely07:10
BenCwhat about a broken tr?07:11
BenClet me get gutsy coreutils07:11
cjwatson coreutils | 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 |        feisty | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc07:11
cjwatson coreutils | 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 |         gutsy | source, amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc07:11
cjwatsonidentical07:11
cjwatsonunless libc broke it07:11
BenCcould be that too07:11
BenClet me get a gutsy chroot and try these commands07:12
cjwatsonbuilding a fix is going to be fun at this rate :-/07:12
cjwatsonprobably shouldn't have done a sync pass today with this broken07:12
cjwatsonso ia64 and powerpc should still be fine07:14
cjwatsoninfinity: we'll need a manual bootstrap to get us out of this, I suspect07:17
BenCyeah, because kernel build does compile userspace stuff :/07:19
cjwatsonwell, unless the glibc build can be done with broken kernel headers07:20
BenCbut still need to build new linux-libc-dev07:21
cjwatsonoh, right, yeah07:21
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BenC10 more minutes till I get this updated gutsy chroot07:30
cjwatsonI'm partway through a debootstrap now07:34
cjwatson# echo stat.h | tr a-z.- A-Z__07:35
cjwatsonSTAT_H07:35
cjwatsonworks fine here, though this is powerpc07:35
BenCdoing mine on amd64...07:36
cjwatsonversion of make is the same in feisty and gutsy07:36
cjwatsonlikewise for both dash and bash07:37
BenCworks for me too07:37
BenClet me run a headers_install and see what happens07:37
cjwatsonis it possible that INSTALL_HDR_PATH is bust or something?07:37
cjwatsonor something else that would cause FNAME to be empty07:38
cjwatsonthis does happen if that fragment of make is run in dash07:40
BenCworks fine here locally07:41
cjwatsonwhat's your /bin/sh?07:41
BenCbash07:41
cjwatsonset it to dash as is now standard on Ubuntu, I bet it'll fail07:41
cjwatsonthe buildds only switched to that in gutsy07:41
cjwatsonputting a semicolon after FNAME=... and before STUBDEF=... should fix it07:42
cjwatsonyep, confirmed in a microtestcase07:42
BenCboom07:42
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BenCSHELL=/bin/bash fixes it07:43
cjwatsonI've mailed ubuntu-devel@ so fewer people will panic about build failures07:44
cjwatsonI would recommend adding the semicolon too07:45
cjwatsonfrom my reading of http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_09_01 it's actually a bash bug that it works07:46
cjwatson"Each variable assignment shall be expanded for tilde expansion, parameter expansion, command substitution, arithmetic expansion, and quote removal prior to assigning the value."07:46
cjwatsonwell, hmm, it doesn't say whether it goes expand expand assign assign or expand assign expand assign, so it's probably just unspecified and bash is entitled to its interpretation07:46
cjwatsonI'll be out for most of the rest of the evening - I'd suggest mailing Adam instructions for recovery07:48
BenCok07:48
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BenCstarting a build...initial packages look ok, but I have a big linux-2.6 sync to make sure is working08:06
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aboganiBenC: May i disturb you about kernel-team mailing list? I would write emails about -rt kernel and my spec (wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime)... but no email reach the this mailing-list :-( 10:08
BenCkernel-team moderator will pick it up within a day or so10:08
BenCcjwatson: Uploading a package with just the SHELL= fix10:11
BenCcurrent HEAD has some build issues, so just getting this out10:12
aboganiBenC: It isn't first time... I attempted from january to write emails in kernel-team mailing-list (when i started my spec on realtime)...10:13
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BenCabogani: are you sub'd to the list?10:14
BenCyou should be sending emails from your subscribed address10:14
aboganiBenC: Yes i read every email...10:14
eeanI still have to cp ipw3945d-2.6.20-15-generic into existance10:14
BenCdoes it send you an email back saying you were moderated?10:14
eeanotherwise my wireless card doesn't work10:15
BenCeean: maybe because you have to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic10:15
eeanmaybe so!10:15
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BenCinstall linux-generic to make sure you get it all, and stay updated10:15
aboganiBenC: Yes but after nothing happen..10:15
eeanBenC: yep, doing. 10:16
eeanis there a way to go back and delete old kernels and their modules automatically?10:17
BenCautomatically, no10:17
eeanhmm10:17
BenCalthough, "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove" might do it10:18
eeanI guess normally it doesn't build up so much10:18
eeanlike it did the weeks before feisty was released10:18
NafalloBenC: I hope they are marked as manually installed.10:18
BenCyeah, normally you only see a problem when you follow the development cycle10:18
eeanah nifty10:18
BenCNafallo: no, linux-image-generic pulls them in most times10:18
NafalloBenC: yea, but the code for autoremove marks them manually installed IIRC.10:19
NafalloBenC: if not, I would consider that a bug.10:19
BenCI wouldn't10:19
Nafallonothing should EVER remove a kernel without me explicitly telling it to :-)10:19
eeanautoremove is explicit10:19
BenCif you run "autoremove" you are telling it to :)10:19
eeandoesn't happy by itself10:20
eeandoesn't *happena10:20
eeanblah ;)10:20
Nafallohmm. some users might not check what packages will be removed :-P10:20
NafalloI want that shiny cleanup tool I've seen specs about for a while now :-)10:21
eeanand such users need old kernels hanging around?10:21
NafalloI'm paranoid about kernels since I did an dist-upgrade that removed the running kernel and failed to install the new one ;-)10:21
eeanah well that would make sense10:21
eeanah suck! 10:22
NafalloI had better words coming from me at the time :-P10:23
eeanactually had a similar problem, I manually uninstalled old kernels and the new kernels initrd wasn't correctly installed10:23
aboganiBenC: I don't want bother you with my stupid problem... Who can resolve my problem? _Only_ lamont?10:23
BenCabogani: and kyle, but he is getting ready to travel, so probably isn't around10:23
BenCabogani: best bet is to make sure your From matches the address you are sub'd to the list with10:24
aboganiBenC: Yes it is..... :-(  In the meanwhile where i can send emails about -rt kernel?10:26
BenCabogani: depends on what your sending10:28
aboganiBenC: Or You prefer this channel? :-)10:28
BenCwhat are you sending?10:29
abogani BenC: Part cuted from my email :-) "Attached to this email the realtime flavour diff for the new Gutsy kernel build system. I removed all things non strictly related to realtime preemption patch (kvm/paravirt/hypercall)."10:29
abogani"I see, in gutsy's git tree, that BenC has already do all the works."10:30
BenCabogani: Ah, cool...I actually included ingo's stock 2.6.21-rt1 patch, but if you can email me the new patch directly, I can include it10:30
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aboganiBenC: Done.10:33
BenCabogani: thanks10:34
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aboganiBenC:  Where i can found git tree of the l-u-m and l-r-m ? I promised to UbuntuStudio guys all packages (headers, image, debug, all meta, l-u-m, l-r-m) for realtime kernel...10:36
BenCabogani: they are private, but you need not worry about that10:36
BenClum and lrm are already done10:37
BenClinux-meta wont be uploaded for a few weeks10:37
aboganiBenC: Thanks a lot! Kernel-team's people are incredible! :-)10:39
BenCnp :)10:39
aboganiBenC: Last thing... Who have kernel realtime's bugs assigned? 10:42
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aboganiBenC: Me, Kernel Team , UbuntuStudio Team ?!?10:43
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BenCabogani: I was going to assign them to ubuntu-studio10:58
aboganiBenC: I don't know if it is the right thing...11:05
BenCI would rather assign them to a team than a person11:06
BenCand preferably not the kernel team11:06
BenCubuntu-studio has a vested interested in this patch11:07
aboganiBenC: Ok i understand. Thanks for all!11:08
BenCthank you11:08
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