[12:14] <imagine> crimsun: well.. toshiba A100 can't get the sound to work due to a kernel problem
[12:14] <luca> I need to keep the nvidia module loaded when going into suspend, does anyone know how to add it to the blacklist?
[12:14] <crimsun> imagine: yes, I know. There are several fixes for it, but the more invasive one requires a more rigorous source review
[12:15] <imagine> crimsun: if you sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel it says that it's already in use..
[12:15] <imagine> crimsun: none workin for me
[12:15] <mehdouch> levon:
[12:15] <crimsun> imagine: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* /dev/audio* /dev/snd/*)
[12:15] <mehdouch> can i post it here
[12:15] <mehdouch> ?
[12:15] <mehdouch> levon:
[12:16] <levon> yes
[12:16] <levon> no
[12:16] <levon> wait
[12:16] <mehdouch> [12:16] <mehdouch> Version:    1.3.9
[12:16] <levon> lol dont post here
[12:16] <mehdouch> Engine:     xine-engine
[12:16] <imagine> ahahha
[12:16] <mehdouch> Build date: May 21 2006
[12:16] <levon> lol
[12:16] <mehdouch> CC version: 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[12:16] <levon> dont kick him
[12:16] <mehdouch> KDElibs:    3.5.2
[12:16] <mehdouch> TagLib:     1.4.0
[12:16] <mehdouch> NDEBUG:     true
[12:16] <mehdouch> [12:16] <mehdouch> /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, stripped
[12:16] <levon> okay next time pastebin.ca
[12:17] <levon> www.pastebin.ca
[12:17] <levon> lol
[12:17] <imagine> crimsun: done it.. any thing I should do now?
[12:17] <mehdouch> lol u say yes lol
[12:17] <crimsun> imagine: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:18] <mehdouch> levon: ca ;
[12:18] <levon> i just ment yes im here haha
[12:18] <mehdouch> levon: canada?
[12:18] <levon> its okay
[12:18] <levon> california
[12:18] <crimsun> imagine: you /may/ need the actual source patch; I can try to generate that tonight after I return from work.
[12:18] <mehdouch> ah ok
[12:19] <levon> here hold on im also korupt
[12:19] <imagine> crimsun: that kill command hanged
[12:19] <imagine> do I need to sudo?
[12:19] <ko12upt> well go private
[12:19] <crimsun> imagine: did you copy & paste exactly what I typed?
[12:20] <mehdouch> ko12upt: i'm not registred
[12:20] <ko12upt> lol
[12:20] <ko12upt> type this /nickserv register password
[12:20] <luca> anyone: I need to keep the nvidia module loaded when going into suspend, does anyone know how to add it to the blacklist?
[12:20] <ko12upt> then type /nickserv identify password
[12:20] <imagine> crimsun: I didn't copy paste.. this is my pc and kubuntu on my laptop
[12:21] <crimsun> imagine: which command failed, the kill or the 2 modprobes?
[12:21] <ko12upt> mehdouch does your amaroke work?
[12:21] <tatters>  <---- does this character appear strange to you guys..I get error--> Cannot recreate missing files: Cannot create /media/New Folder/music/BEATLES/Anthology, Vol. 1/[1]  - 21 - Bsame Mucho [Mono]  (Velzquez-Skylar).mp3: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character""
[12:21] <imagine> kill
[12:21] <imagine> but I think it worked actually
[12:22] <crimsun> imagine: it can't both hang and work
[12:23] <imagine> I know that ;) hang on
[12:23] <tatters>  <---- does this character appear as a Diamond shape in your browser window?
[12:23] <mehdouch> ko12upt: it's ok i'm registred now
[12:24] <ko12upt> yea dcc at the bottom or the top or the side
[12:24] <don> can you upgrade directly from 6.6 to 7.04 on line?
[12:24] <imagine> crimsun: well.. I modprobe.. it worked.. but sounds not comin out
[12:25] <crimsun> imagine: right, so you need the source patch. As I said above, I'll work on that tonight when I return from work. Ping me in ~3 hours.
[12:26] <imagine> crimsun: wow man your cool :) ty a bunch
[12:27] <gesslar> i am having a problem with the upgrade
[12:28] <gesslar> from edgy to feisty
[12:28] <don> 7.04?
[12:28] <gesslar> yeah
[12:28] <gesslar> it's trying to upgrade bash, but it says my /etc/skel/.bashrc was modified and it's breaking the upgrade
[12:28] <don> I am going to get it
[12:29] <don> clean instal might be better
[12:29] <wolferine> when I attempt to install apache and php together at the same time, is the loadmodules suppose to be included in the httpd.conf, so the php can work with apache?
[12:29] <don> I am new to all of this
[12:30] <GuerrillaSquirre> hello
[12:30] <don> hi
[12:30] <addyk_> Hello! GuerrillaSquirre :)
[12:30] <GuerrillaSquirre> I need help
[12:30] <don> me to
[12:31] <GuerrillaSquirre> could ya help me 
[12:31] <don> whhhat up
[12:31] <GuerrillaSquirre> I installed gnome
[12:31] <GuerrillaSquirre> and got these two wicked volume icons on the desktop
[12:31] <addyk_> OK...
[12:31] <don> changed things
[12:31] <GuerrillaSquirre> which I can't remove without umounting the drives
[12:31] <don> ya
[12:31] <GuerrillaSquirre> :(
[12:32] <addyk_> Well look in the Control Panel :)
[12:32] <GuerrillaSquirre> any solutions ?
[12:32] <GuerrillaSquirre> I did..
[12:32] <addyk_> It must be somewhere..
[12:32] <don> start over
[12:32] <GuerrillaSquirre> start over ?
[12:32] <addyk_> In kubuntu it's somewhere in the Second section.
[12:32] <don> someone else had that trouble today
[12:32] <addyk_> of the control panel
[12:35] <wolferine> how can I remove my apache/php/mysql install entirely?
[12:36] <phratman> I got a kickstart configuration file to automate my installation, but it fails at this part: http://phpfi.com/230496 any thoughts?
[12:38] <wolferine> how can I entirely remove apache2, apache-perl, php, and mysql in ubuntu?
[12:38] <wolferine> anyone know
[12:38] <levi_> How would I install apache on Kubuntu 6?
[12:38] <levi_> We're apparently oppisite :)
[12:39] <MalMen> hello
[12:39] <levi_> hi
[12:39] <levi_> How would I install apache on Kubuntu 6?
[12:39] <Skrot-> levi_: Tried installing the apace2 package?
[12:39] <MalMen> how to can i add commands to start of kubuntu?
[12:40] <levi_> From repos?
[12:40] <Skrot-> wolferine: Tried removing the apache2 package?
[12:40] <Skrot-> yes
[12:40] <Skrot-> ;)
[12:40] <levi_> Okay so sudo apt-get apache2?
[12:40] <Skrot-> sudo apt-get install apache2
[12:40] <levi_> Ahokay
[12:40] <levi_> thanks
[12:41] <MalMen> how to i add commands to start session ?
[12:41] <levon> where is the person with a problem with listening to smb music
[12:41] <levon> here
[12:41] <levon> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082300.msg65869#msg65869
[12:42] <wolferine> Skrot-, yes, I tried to remove apache2 then install apache-perl, but I have both now
[12:42] <MalMen> :\
[12:42] <Skrot-> wolferine: Tought you said you wanted to remove apache2 and apache-perl?
[12:43] <MalMen> no1 knows ?
[12:43] <wolferine> Skrot-, i did say that
[12:43] <wolferine> Skrot-, have you worked with apache, removing packages before?
[12:43] <wolferine> or you just someone else looking for help
[12:44] <Skrot-> wolferine: Then sudo apt-get remove apache2 apache-perl php5
[12:44] <wolferine> Skrot-, that removes too many packages
[12:44] <Skrot-> wolferine: It will remove packages that depend on apache2 as well
[12:45] <wolferine> Skrot-, yes, which are packages I dont want to remove
[12:45] <wolferine> understand?
[12:45] <Skrot-> yes
[12:45] <Skrot-> Can you give an example of such a package?
[12:47] <wolferine> ?
[12:47] <wolferine> Skrot-, do you really know what your doing?
[12:48] <wolferine> as a lot of ppl, like myself, just try and help out when they can
[12:49] <therisenone2> wolferine, what's going on?
[12:49] <Skrot-> I'm not a certified apt engineer(tm), but I've used debian-based distros for both server and desktop for over 5 years if that counts for anything.. bottom line is, if you've got programs installed that depend on apache2 that you don't want remove, you need to keep apache2.
[12:49] <adaptr> or remove apache, force-inject (fake) its install, then reinstall the dependent package
[12:49] <wolferine> this is sooo confusing
[12:49] <adaptr> but that would only make sense if you know you won't need the functionality apache supposedly adds to it
[12:50] <Skrot-> exactly
[12:50] <leo_> hi everybody
[12:50] <Sergo> hello, how can i play .avi on kubuntu?
[12:50] <wolferine> i just want to remove apache, not half my system
[12:50] <Skrot-> wolferine: You said that apt-get remove apache2 wants to remove programs you want to keep. Can you give an example of a program it wants to remove, just to see if it really depends on apache2.
[12:51] <therisenone2> !avi
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:51] <leo_> just a simlple question: what distro should i install: ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu???
[12:51] <therisenone2> leo_, it's up to you. With linux you have choices
[12:51] <Skrot-> leo_: Thats up to you. Have you tried KDE, Gnome or XFCE before?
[12:51] <therisenone2> xubuntu is fast and light, kubuntu is larger, but prettier, and gnome is in the middle
[12:52] <Skrot-> They're all basicly the same core
[12:52] <Sergo> windowx xp:)
[12:52] <leo_> Skrot: i'm using kubuntu right now
[12:52] <Sergo> therisone2 those information is for ubuntu..
[12:52] <wolferine> Skrot-, KDE for example
[12:52] <therisenone2> Sergo, it'll work with any distro ending in *ubuntu
[12:52] <wolferine> thats a package it wants to remove
[12:53] <wolferine> and any KDE app I think I have installed, those or others
[12:53] <Sergo> leo_ do you know  how to make that my kaffeine play .avi files
[12:53] <Skrot-> wolferine: ah.. thats a little weird indeed. Which version of kubuntu are you using?
[12:53] <Sergo> :(
[12:53] <leo_> Skrot: i've tried ubuntu, but i don't like gnome
[12:53] <wolferine> im not
[12:53] <wolferine> im using Gnome
[12:53] <therisenone2> Sergo, read the link
[12:53] <therisenone2> !avi > Sergo
[12:53] <wolferine> !apache > wolferine
[12:53] <wolferine> ah
[12:53] <hendaus> hiya
[12:53] <hendaus> somebody help me!
[12:54] <leo_> Skrot: and i dont know xubuntu
[12:54] <Skrot-> leo_: Then kubuntu seems like the right choice
[12:54] <therisenone2> !somebody
[12:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:54] <Sergo> ok, thanks
[12:54] <Sergo> !
[12:54] <Sergo> therisenone2
[12:54] <leo_> Sergo: i dont know... i'm new to all this :)
[12:54] <BluesKaj>  !help :)
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <hendaus> somebody help me! please
[12:55] <therisenone2> hendaus, what's the problem?
[12:55] <Skrot-> hendaus: Whats the problem?
[12:55] <Sergo> leo_ i'm too
[12:55] <Sergo> :)
[12:55] <leo_> Skrot: ok... but i should upgrade to feisty i think
[12:55] <wolferine>   adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager
[12:55] <hendaus> Skrot-,  thanx i have installed firefox,and i open a site of videos songs and it says that it needs realplayer
[12:55] <wolferine> thats the first line that will be removed
[12:55] <therisenone2> !mplayer | hendaus
[12:55] <ubotu> hendaus: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[12:55] <wolferine> if I attempt to remove all the apache and php and mysql files
[12:56] <wolferine> Skrot-, so thats why I am hesitating to remove apache
[12:56] <wolferine> as I dont want to destroy my system entirely
[12:56] <leo_> Sergo: yesterday i was able to make amarok play mp3 files...
[12:56] <hendaus> therisenone2,  i click at a video song and it opens a little window then stopped
[12:57] <Sergo> leo_ you can try ubuntu, is more easy than kubuntu..
[12:57] <coreymon77> it is/.
[12:57] <Skrot-> wolferine: understandable.. i'm not sure why it wants to remove so many programs that obviously don't depend on apache, but you might have better luch in #ubuntu
[12:57] <coreymon77> since when is gnome easier than kde
[12:57] <lontra> hi i am trying to figure out how to get my wireless card to work .. the wiki says it's should ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_89224MG
[12:57] <Sergo> yes it is how i see
[12:57] <Sergo> :)
[12:57] <leo_> Sergo: yeah? you think so... i dont trust gnome...
[12:58] <Sergo> i probaly install back ubuntu becouse for me it's more friandly
[12:58] <coreymon77> lontra: what card?
[12:58] <Sergo> :)
[12:58] <wolferine> Skrot-, I cannot ask in ubuntu
[12:58] <lontra> coreymon77:  Intel PRO/Intel 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
[12:59] <lontra> coreymon77: it seems kubuntu is trying to use a broadcom driver ...
[12:59] <hendaus> Skrot-, can u help thanx
[12:59] <wolferine> Skrot-, so there is an issue with what is dependant on Apache, and what Apache depends on I guess
[12:59] <wolferine> and all those packages DEPEND ON apache, so they are set for removal
[12:59] <Skrot-> wolferine: indeed.. something seems wrong with that. I don't even have apache2 installed on this computer, so the programs can depend on it
[01:00] <wolferine> Skrot-, so a reformat I guess?
[01:00] <Skrot-> wolferine: Why can't you ask in #ubuntu btw?
[01:00] <p3z> hi folks
[01:01] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:02] <Skrot-> lontra: Does "lsmod | grep iw" return anything for you?
[01:02] <leo_> have u heard what Linus said about Gnome???
[01:02] <Skrot-> leo_: Yes, and imo he's right
[01:02] <wolferine> Skrot-, i really dont want to say
[01:02] <wolferine> Skrot-, why do you ask?
[01:02] <leo_> "Gnome users should migrate to KDE".... :0
[01:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> hiiiii
[01:03] <Skrot-> wolferine: okay, I ask because those guys usually have more insight on the *ubuntu core and might know why you cant just uninstall apache2 without removing half the system
[01:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> how do i install couter stike in kubuntu??
[01:03] <leo_> "Gnome team users are mentally idiots" ! :o
[01:03] <p3z>  could somebody tell me where does KDE livecd session mount my hd partitions?
[01:04] <adaptr>  /mnt/hdXY
[01:04] <adaptr> as per dmesg
[01:04] <Windows2000XPVIS> how do i install couter stike in kubuntu??
[01:04] <ubuntu__> I'm running Kubuntu from a CD, and I need to access my harddrive (where I store my windows folders).  How do I do that?
[01:04] <Skrot-> Windows2000XPVIS: You need to use Wine or Cedega for that
[01:04] <p3z> adaptr: nope, nothing there
[01:04] <adaptr> ubuntu__ click on th elittle icons on the desktop ?
[01:05] <ghostcom> i don't have any except install
[01:05] <Windows2000XPVIS> ubuntu_, do you need read or write access
[01:05] <lontra> Skrot-: nope
[01:05] <adaptr> p3z oh, well - then they're probably not mounted, unless it's in /media
[01:05] <adaptr> you did look around, yes
[01:05] <ghostcom> well i try accessing the root folder but it says I don't have priveleges, but there shouldn't be a default password right?
[01:05] <carutsu> hello, is it 'risky' for me to get an AMD64 bits procesor?
[01:05] <Skrot-> lontra: doh! "lspci | grep -i net" says you've got a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG as well?
[01:05] <wolferine> so Skrot- you are unsure of how to remove apache safely?
[01:06] <Skrot-> wolferine: Very much so right now, as it seems your entire system depends on that package..
[01:06] <carutsu> i mean that anything under 32bits are avalible under AMD64?
[01:06] <p3z> adaptr: yes i looked, but haven't found so i came to ask
[01:06] <ghostcom> on the kubuntu faq it says there's not default password, but there is on my iso?
[01:06] <adaptr> try /mnt and /media
[01:06] <Sergo> :((
[01:06] <p3z> adaptr: empty
[01:06] <Sergo> anyone know any other movie player for kde
[01:06] <lontra> Skrot-: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01
[01:07] <Skrot-> ah
[01:07] <Skrot-> Then you don't have the same wireless card as the one on that page
[01:07] <lontra> where can i find .inf and .sys files?
[01:07] <Skrot-> Sergo: Other than?
[01:07] <adaptr> p3z what is on your partitions ?
[01:07] <Sergo> i can't play DIV3 codec
[01:07] <adaptr> lontra hi there, kook! :)
[01:07] <Sergo> Skrot to play DIV3 codec
[01:07] <Skrot-> Sergo: Which player does it not work with?
[01:07] <wolferine> Skrot-, so there is nothing I can do, just reisntall the OS?
[01:08] <lontra> adaptr: hi
[01:08] <Sergo> Xine, Mplayer, kaffeine
[01:08] <Skrot-> wolferine: Hang around to see if there's someone who's encountered the same problem, and/or try to get in to #ubuntu again
[01:08] <adaptr> lontra oh sorry, I thoughtr you were asking about actual windoze files.. but you probably want wine to work ;-)
[01:08] <lontra> is it impossible to get .sys and .inf without windows?
[01:08] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <Skrot-> Sergo: What tried running "mplayer yourfile.avi" from conosle?
[01:08] <adaptr> lontra that depends what they're for
[01:08] <p3z> adaptr: all my files, winxp ntfs
[01:08] <Windows2000XPVIS> !windows
[01:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:08] <lontra> adaptr: for a wireless card
[01:08] <Windows2000XPVIS> !macosx
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macosx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Sergo> Skrot- don't know
[01:08] <wolferine> Skrot-, thats not gonna happen
[01:08] <Windows2000XPVIS> !boobs
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boobs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <wolferine> most of the "good" helpers arent around as much
[01:09] <Skrot-> Windows2000XPVIS: Stop it already
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !good
[01:09] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !Sktrot-
[01:09] <adaptr> lontra well, they should be on the driver disk./in the driver package
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sktrot- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !ubotu
[01:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !ops | ubotu
[01:09] <lontra> adaptr: it works under simply mepis out of the box
[01:09] <ubotu> ubotu: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[01:09] <carutsu> !amd64
[01:09] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:09] <adaptr> lontra good for them
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !x86
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Windows2000XPVIS> !intel
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <lontra> adaptr: well i just mean that it's based on kubuntu ...
[01:09] <p3z> i do not like vista i will move to kubuntu because of vista
[01:10] <adaptr> it's what ?
[01:10] <ghostcom> anyone know how i can get my windowsxp files off of my computer if i'm running from the kubuntu disc?
[01:10] <wolferine> can someone help me to remove both apache2 and apahce-perl from my system, without removing eveything?
[01:10] <Skrot-> lontra: You might try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[01:11] <wolferine> anyone?
[01:11] <stoft> ghostcom: what is it exactly that you want to accomplish?
[01:11] <p3z> does the livecd automount hd partitions?
[01:11] <p3z> looks like not alone with the problem (o:
[01:11] <coreymon77> guys
[01:12] <lontra> why am i getting permission denied when i'm trying to blacklist something as root?
[01:12] <Sergo> rofl
[01:12] <Sergo> don't know what esle to do
[01:12] <Sergo> the decision is to install another distro
[01:12] <Sergo> =] 
[01:12] <crimsun> lontra: what syntax are you using?
[01:12] <Skrot-> Sergo: You're still having problems playing a divx/xvid file?
[01:12] <stoft> wolferine: what do you mean by "everything"?
[01:12] <coreymon77> when doing the pre feisty kde edgy upgrade
[01:12] <Sergo> Skrot- yes..
[01:12] <coreymon77> why are all the packages being held back
[01:12] <wolferine> stoft, all the dependant packes
[01:13] <Skrot-> Sergo: Could you try "mplayer yourfile.avi" in a console please?
[01:13] <Sergo> ok
[01:13] <lontra> crimsun: i just manually edited it and it worked fine ...i was using echo
[01:13] <ghostcom> Stoft: I'm trying to copy my files from my windows harddrive to a USB thumdrive so i can just install either Kubuntu or Sabayon Linux over windows
[01:13] <txwikinger> wolferine: "apt-cache rdepends apache2" shows you all the packages that depends on apache2
[01:13] <wolferine> txwikinger, I can seee what depends on it already
[01:13] <crimsun> lontra: you weren't using sudo echo, were you?
[01:13] <Sergo> Skrot: it's work
[01:13] <stoft> wolferine: in wait for someone more experienced, take a look at the possibilities of using for example dpkg to remove packages by hand. maybe apt-get remove has some options as well that you could invoke
[01:13] <Sergo> :)
[01:14] <Skrot-> Sergo: Okay, so which graphical program are you using to play back your files?
[01:14] <wolferine> txwikinger, my question is, how do I remove apache, without removing the dependant packages, as I will be reinstalling it
[01:14] <leo_> is superkaramba available in kubuntu by default?
[01:14] <wolferine> stoft, well thanks anyways
[01:14] <stoft> ghostcom: so basically you just want to remove everything that has anything to do with windows?
[01:14] <lontra> crimsun: yeah
[01:14] <Skrot-> leo_: It's not installed by default, but it's avaliable
[01:15] <Sergo> Skrot- Mplayer Movie Player
[01:15] <txwikinger> wolferine: that might not be so easy possible... removing apache might remove the conf directory of it
[01:15] <crimsun> lontra: right, that's syntactically invalid. You would have to use sudo with tee.
[01:15] <Sergo> Kaffeine (this programs i had installed)
[01:15] <leo_> Skrot: i mean, i dont need to download it from internet
[01:15] <wolferine> txwikinger, I want to remove the conf dir for sure
[01:15] <lontra> crimsun: ok ...
[01:15] <p3z> hm
[01:15] <wolferine> txwikinger, not sure if you understand my question exactly
[01:15] <coreymon77> guys
[01:15] <coreymon77> why are packages being held back
[01:16] <p3z> is there a way to save the setting changes i made with the livecd running?
[01:16] <ghostcom> p3z I haven't been able to find a way yet...seeing as how it resets to default...unless there's something in User Management
[01:16] <txwikinger> all the other packages have information in that dir
[01:17] <txwikinger> but I just see dpkg --remove does not remove the conf
[01:17] <stoft> wolferine: txwikinger: there is a purge option that you can pass to dpkg. not sure if dpkg removes depending packages as well though.
[01:18] <stoft> wolferine: txwikinger: the purge option should remove the conf as well
[01:18] <txwikinger> I don't know ... dpkg --force-depends --remove  may work
[01:18] <wolferine> stoft, so what are you saying exactly?
[01:18] <wolferine> as before, you were unsure of what i needed to try
[01:18] <txwikinger> or --purge if you want to remove the apache conf dir as well
[01:18] <p3z> ghostcom: and are u able to access your hd partitions?
[01:19] <ghostcom> p3z: no :-\ I'm trying to figure out where they are
[01:19] <stoft> wolferine: try dpkg --purge --no-act apache2 and see if it wants to uninstall other packages as well
[01:19] <p3z> ghostcom: what about sharing the search
[01:19] <txwikinger> wolferine: why do you want to remove apache2 and install it again?
[01:20] <wolferine> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed.
[01:20] <wolferine> txwikinger, dont worry about it
[01:20] <ghostcom> p3z: I'm reading on a forum that if you want to access NTFS partitions you need to have a program like ntfs-3g
[01:20] <wolferine> stoft, so that doesnt help really
[01:21] <p3z> ghostcom: i read somewhere that livecd automounts
[01:21] <wolferine> do I need to reinstall the entire system to remove it, so I can start over?
[01:21] <p3z> ghostcom: i only need to read ntfs
[01:21] <wolferine> or is there no way I can keep the dependances?
[01:21] <txwikinger> wolferine: maybe there is a better way to do what you want to do
[01:22] <ghostcom> p3z: mine didn't automount then for some reason...I'm stumped
[01:22] <hendaus> somebody help me! please
[01:22] <lontra> i got my wireless working now :)
[01:22] <wolferine> txwikinger, doesnt seem like it
[01:22] <stoft> wolferine: can you quickly explain what it is you want to do, I think I missed something somewhere...
[01:22] <ghostcom> p3z: I'm reading an article now http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[01:22] <txwikinger> wolferine: dpkg --no-act --force-depends --remove apache2
[01:23] <wolferine> stoft, I have apache2 and apache-perl on my system
[01:23] <txwikinger> that is the dry-run that shows you what it does
[01:23] <wolferine> so I want to remove them both, with php and mysql as well
[01:23] <stoft> but?
[01:23] <wolferine> but when I attempt to do it, i get prompted to remove all the dependant packages as well
[01:23] <wolferine> which I want to keep
[01:23] <p3z> ghostcom: it seems to me mine neither
[01:23] <wolferine> as I will reinstall apache-perl when its done
[01:24] <stoft> ok.
[01:24] <p3z> ghostcom: i am using 7.04
[01:24] <wolferine> but it looks like dpkg doesnt think I have apache2, which is confusing
[01:24] <ghostcom> p3z: as am I
[01:24] <p3z> ghostcom: and i definitely remember 6.10 ubuntu livecd mounting my partitions
[01:24] <stoft> wolferine, try "dpkg -l|grep apache"
[01:25] <hendaus> can anyhelp please!
[01:25] <wolferine> ok, and?
[01:25] <stoft> hendaus, don't ask for help, ask your question
[01:25] <p3z> ghostcom: but i thougth what the hell i can wait for 2-3 weeks for the new version to come out...
[01:25] <stoft> wolferine: is it prefixed with "ii"?
[01:25] <wolferine> yes
[01:25] <stoft> hmm
[01:26] <wolferine> i removed it with synaptic
[01:26] <wolferine> then I added apache-perl
[01:26] <wolferine> but then I realized apache2 wasnt actually removed
[01:26] <ghostcom> p3z: I would love to access my partition without having to boot into windows, but right now i don't think there's any other way
[01:26] <wolferine> and my php is setup with apache2 now
[01:26] <ghostcom> p3z: Kubuntu can see my DVD drive, but windows can't :-\
[01:26] <wolferine> which it should be with apache-perl
[01:27] <stoft> ok, so the real problem is that php is set up with apach2 and not apache-perl?
[01:27] <p3z> ghostcom: did u read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:27] <hendaus> stoft,  i open a site of videos and when i click on one of these videos it open a little window from firefox and it shows mplayer plugins
[01:27] <wolferine> stoft, thats one
[01:27] <vinicius> hi, folks.Does anyone here use kxmame in amd64 ?
[01:27] <wolferine> and i still have all the apache2 files on my system
[01:28] <wolferine> which I bypassed by removing apache2 as a service
[01:28] <stoft> wolferine: have you tried doing "apt-get remove --purge apache2"?
[01:29] <hendaus> stoft,  where should i got the plugin installed?
[01:29] <wolferine> Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed
[01:29] <wolferine> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[01:29] <wolferine>   libmtp5 fftw3 latex-xft-fonts koffice-data libtunepimp5 libifp4
[01:29] <wolferine>   libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 koffice-libs libnjb5 libofa0
[01:29] <wolferine> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[01:29] <lauredaddy> hello every body
[01:29] <thetarepublic> When I boot up, the KDM doesn't start. How do I fix restart X-Server and/or load the GDM?
[01:29] <thetarepublic> This is mighty important ;A;
[01:30] <lauredaddy> can i have help please?
[01:30] <ghostcom> p3z: I was working on reading a tut like this on a different site...but it didn't work
[01:30] <stoft> wolferine: can you paste your output from "dpkg -l|grep apache" into a pastebin please? I want to take a peek at what packages you have installed...
[01:31] <wolferine> sure
[01:31] <wolferine> sec
[01:31] <hendaus> stoft, did u got my message?
[01:31] <stoft> hendaus: yes, unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question. sorry
[01:31] <thetarepublic> If anyone could just give me a sudo command or something >.>; I'm running the command line irssi right now.
[01:31] <blizzzek> where does kontact (and the apps integrated) store their config files except ~/.kde/share/apps/?
[01:32] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/463459
[01:32] <hendaus> stoft,  i have firefox installed, and i try to open a video song from a site and it says that it needs mplayer plugin
[01:33] <p3z> ppl please help us to access ntfs partitions from under livecd
[01:33] <ghostcom> yeah!  we're desperate
[01:33] <stoft> wolferine: ok, much better, apache2 is not installed but some of its dependencies still are.
[01:33] <p3z> i found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:33] <sonoftheclayr> thetarepublic: have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[01:33] <wolferine> stoft, the file structure is still ther
[01:34] <p3z> but i am unable to apt-get install for i am no root
[01:34] <wolferine> and I had to /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[01:34] <thetarepublic> sonoftheclayr: No I have not
[01:34] <wolferine> so it was still/is still there
[01:34] <thetarepublic> I'll try that though
[01:34] <stoft> wolferine: the config files yes, probably because you didn't have the purge flag.
[01:34] <wolferine> i didnt, I removed it in synaptic
[01:35] <stoft> I'm not sure if you can purge without reinstalling apache2. give me a minute to check. meanwhile I would remove/purge libapache2-php, and install libapache-php, which should work with your apache-perl
[01:35] <yaccin> yay :) http://bennid.de/screenshots/
[01:35] <nuu> p3z: you're not root as in you don't have a root password on that box ?
[01:35] <wolferine> stoft what commands?
[01:35] <nuu> if you do, use "sudo apt-get" instead of "apt-get" which will execute it as root
[01:36] <nuu> if you don't, ask your system admin to install it for you
[01:36] <p3z> nuu: tx that helped
[01:36] <nuu> np
[01:36] <p3z> nuu: if u r in budepest, hungary u r my guest for a beer
[01:36] <p3z> (o:
[01:37] <nuu> hehe thanks but i'm a little far from there
[01:37] <nuu>  :P
[01:37] <ghostcom> p3z: did you figure it out?
[01:37] <Markeda> Thinking of root, on Kubuntu 6.06, are you automatically set as NOT root on first install, or do you have to make a separate user account for that? (sorry for potentially dumb question, very new to linux...)
[01:37] <p3z> nuu: then it's high time to see this countre:P
[01:37] <stoft> wolferine: just a min
[01:38] <p3z> ghostcom: package not found )o:
[01:38] <sonoftheclayr> Markeda: in kubuntu you use the sudo command to run stuff as root, there is no root
[01:38] <ghostcom> Markeda: if you run from a livecd you technically aren't root but you can use commands to act as root
[01:38] <ghostcom> and sonoftheclayr beat me to it :p
[01:38] <sonoftheclayr> :p
[01:38] <ghostcom> p3z: i'm getting invalid operations
[01:38] <Markeda> All right. Thanks :)
[01:39] <nuu> Markeda: try "sudo su -"
[01:39] <nuu> and you'll be root
[01:39] <nuu> you can logon as root from a terminal, too
[01:39] <nuu> as in Ctrl+Alt+F1 (F2, F3..)
[01:39] <nuu> just not as a kde user
[01:39] <nuu> root is there
[01:39] <nuu> it's the account with UID 0
[01:40] <stoft> wolferine: I would do "apt-get install apache2" and then "apt-get remove --purge apache2". it's the long way around but also easiest.
[01:40] <stoft> wolferine: then I would redo "dpkg -l|grep apache2" to see if there are still other apache2 libs/apps installed and "apt-get remove --purge" them as well.
[01:40] <nuu> you can use dpkg to purge it
[01:40] <nuu> dpkg -P iirc
[01:41] <nuu> or --purge
[01:41] <stoft> nuu: thnx
[01:41] <stoft> didn't know that
[01:41] <nuu> np
[01:41] <nuu> dpkg is a helluva useful tool
[01:41] <stoft> wolferine: I hope you saw what nuu said. quicker that way
[01:41] <wolferine> so after the --purge add each package?
[01:42] <nuu> options you may be interested into are -L and -S
[01:42] <nuu> -L will list all the files a package installs
[01:42] <wolferine> one person please
[01:42] <nuu> and -S will search which package installs the file/dir you pass it on cmdline
[01:42] <wolferine> i have prefork, utils, common, and mod-php5
[01:42] <wolferine> so do I need to purge each?
[01:42] <stoft> wolferine: yes, I would purge those
[01:44] <wolferine> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[01:44] <wolferine> should I run that as well?
[01:44] <nuu> autoremove will get you rid of every dependency package whose main package has been uninstalled in a previous apt-get run
[01:45] <Markeda> So. After using ctrl+alt+F1, how does one get back OUT of that without having to reboot ._.
[01:45] <nuu> ctrl+alt+f7
[01:45] <wolferine> stoft?
[01:45] <stoft> wolferine: I would yeah
[01:45] <Markeda> Danke.
[01:45] <nuu> f7 is the graphical interface
[01:45] <nuu> whilst f1-f6 are terminals
[01:46] <ubuntu> woops :p
[01:46] <ghostcom> shouldn'thave hit that
[01:46] <ghostcom> p3z: any luck yet?
[01:46] <stoft> wolferine: from your paste before the packages that apt-get lists as autoremove are packages that don't concern apache, but I would remove them non the less.
[01:47] <wolferine> wow
[01:47] <wolferine> i think i might have got it
[01:47] <balint> why doesnt have sound youtube on linux? :(
[01:47] <wolferine> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2: command not found
[01:48] <p3z> ghostcom: yep it looks like i'm on the way
[01:48] <wolferine> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache-perl: command not found
[01:48] <JohnFlux> balint: i use the script  youtube-dl  (in synaptic)
[01:48] <stoft> wolferine: then I would look into installing libapache-mod-suphp (there doesn't seem to be a libapache-mod-php).
[01:48] <JohnFlux> balint: downloads the youtube file.  then you can watch it full screen etc
[01:48] <stoft> wolferine: how about "sudo /etc/init.d/apache-perl start"?
[01:48] <wolferine> stoft, how can I read .php files in a browser after I do an apache/php (new) install  ?
[01:49] <ghostcom> p3z: any advice?
[01:49] <p3z> szeva blint
[01:49] <nuu> there is one stoft
[01:49] <nuu> it's called either libapache-mod-php4
[01:49] <nuu> or libapache-mod-php5
[01:49] <JohnFlux> stoft: that won't work
[01:49] <wolferine> stoft, yeah, no apache-perl either
[01:49] <nuu> depending on the php version you want apache to support
[01:49] <stoft> nuu: strange, I can't seem to find it...
[01:49] <wolferine> or maybe nuu knows
[01:49] <p3z> ghostcom: start adept from kde meny/system/adept manager
[01:49] <balint> johnflux i dont want to download them, i just want to have sound and watch it online
[01:49] <nuu> try apt-cache search --names-only libapache2-mod-php
[01:50] <nuu> libapache2, perhaps that's why you dont find it
[01:50] <ghostcom> right
[01:50] <wolferine> since he seems to be posting things along the same lines as what we are discussing
[01:50] <stoft> nuu: yeah, it's the wrong apache...
[01:50] <ghostcom> p3z: got it running
[01:50] <JohnFlux> balint: dunno ;-)
[01:50] <leo> i'm starting to love this OS... it's fabolous... :)
[01:50] <balint> :(
[01:50] <wolferine> stoft, did u catch that question?
[01:50] <ghostcom> p3z: now just look for the ntfs3g package?
[01:50] <nuu> i do see a libapache-mod-php4 tho
[01:51] <nuu> root@moe:~# apt-cache search --names-only libapache-mod-php
[01:51] <nuu> libapache-mod-php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)
[01:51] <p3z> ghostcom: adept menu manage repositories check universum
[01:51] <ghostcom> and that'll automount?
[01:51] <p3z> ghostcom: after that look for ntfs-config, and install it
[01:51] <stoft> wolferine: yes, not sure how to answer though. do you mean where to put your php files?
[01:52] <wolferine> stoft, let me explain then
[01:52] <nuu> wolferine: once you've installed libapache-mod-php, make sure php is listed in the AddType lines in your apache .conf
[01:53] <nuu> and after that, /etc/init.d/httpd restart (or whatever the initscript is called)
[01:53] <nuu> that oughta enable the php handler
[01:53] <stoft> nuu: becoming paranoid now, I can't see that package no matter what I try with apt-cache... :-/
[01:53] <nuu> which repos stoft?
[01:54] <stoft> italian feisty
[01:54] <wolferine> stoft, when I install apache/php, I use synaptic, along with adding mysql btw, and I  find that when I view a .php (phpinfo() for example) file its not being viewed in the browser, which it should, so I am guessing I might need to add some lines in my apache.conf
[01:54] <nuu> pure te italiano :)
[01:54] <ghostcom> p3z: then it's automounted?
[01:54] <stoft> wolferine: yep, read what nuu just posted :)
[01:54] <p3z> ghostcom: nope
[01:54] <wolferine> yeah, seems like he wants to take over this convo
[01:54] <p3z> read the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:54] <wolferine> so ill bug nuu instead
[01:55] <nuu> stoft: i see em on italian ubuntu dapper
[01:55] <ghostcom> reading...uggh :p
[01:55] <p3z> ghostcom: i am still fetching packages
[01:55] <ghostcom> p3z: makes sense :p
[01:55] <wolferine> nuu, so do I need to add another package, other than the ones selected when I install apache-perl and php5, so I can have php work properly with apache?
[01:55] <leo> wolferine, what does the browser shows you when you run the php file?
[01:55] <wolferine> leo, someone else is helping, thanks though
[01:55] <stoft> nuu: infatti no, ma faccio finta... wolferine: are you using feisty or dapper?
[01:55] <nuu> no, that oughta be enough
[01:56] <p3z> ghostcom: i think this will be useful for u too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[01:56] <wolferine> stoft, feisty
[01:56] <nuu> stoft :)
[01:56] <wolferine> nuu, so after the install, I need to edit my httpd.conf or the apache.conf to setup .php files?
[01:56] <stoft> k, wolferine, as nuu said, you need to config your apache/httpd conf, scroll up a bit.
[01:57] <nuu> theoretically wolferine, dpkg should take care of it. If not, you should look for AddType lines that enable .php filetype handlers for the webserver.
[01:57] <wolferine>  i never use kpkg
[01:57] <wolferine> dppkg*
[01:57] <ghostcom> p3z: yeah I was actually thinking of running Sabayon on my notebook pc, then having Kubuntu on a flash drive
[01:57] <nuu> cat /path/to/httpd.conf | grep -i .php
[01:57] <leo> wolferine, i've been a php dev for 5 years, i know a bit... but it's ok, good luck
[01:57] <nuu> dpkg is used by apt-get
[01:58] <phratman> nuu: Or just grep -i .php /path/to/httpd.conf
[01:58] <nuu> or synaptic, or aptitude, or...
[01:58] <nuu> ;)
[01:58] <nuu> they just fetch a .deb, and run dpkg on it
[01:58] <nuu> all they do is automate the search and retrieval process
[01:58] <wolferine> leo, you just jumped into the middle of the convo, so its a difficult to help
[01:58] <p3z> ghostcom: what is sabayon?
[01:58] <wolferine> E: apache-perl: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:58] <wolferine> it
[01:59] <wolferine> i had an error in adding apache
[01:59] <ghostcom> p3z: Sabayon Linux pretty cool distro of linux I just recently found
[01:59] <leo> wolferine, you're right.. i'm sorry
[01:59] <stoft> wolferine: what was the error?
[01:59] <wolferine> stoft, I just posted it
[01:59] <stoft> wolferine: doh. sry
[02:00] <wolferine> hehe np
[02:00] <p3z> ghostcom: btw i want to run kubuntu on my laptop, i have problems using 1400x1050
[02:00] <ghostcom> p3z: for some reason after installing all of the packages I can't run the NTFS Config Tool
[02:00] <ghostcom> p3z: my laptop is only 1280x1024
[02:00] <wolferine> Syntax error on line 1065 of /etc/apache-perl/httpd.conf:
[02:00] <wolferine> Cannot load /etc/apache-perl/modules/libphp5.so into server: /etc/apache-perl/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:00] <wolferine>    ...fail!
[02:00] <wolferine> looks like an old httpd.conf is still on my system
[02:01] <wolferine> so ill need to remove again?
[02:01] <wolferine> or just maybe edit the httpd.conf?
[02:01] <nuu> hm, you're trying to install which version of apache ?
[02:01] <wolferine> nuu, apache-perl
[02:01] <p3z> ghostcom: and my soundcard is pretty damn quiet
[02:01] <ejupin> kubuntu wont start after initial boot.. doesnt get to log in page, just black screen.. any ideas to fix or should I do a clean reinstall ? :(
[02:01] <balint> hey whats with opera? cant install it :(:(:(
[02:01] <stoft> wolferine: any special reason why you need apache-perl?
[02:02] <nuu> ghostcom: sudo ntfs-config
[02:02] <ghostcom> thanks nuu
[02:02] <p3z> ghostcom: i was able to run it and it worked well
[02:02] <wolferine> stoft, any reason why I shouldnt have it?
[02:02] <nuu> ejupin: try reverting to your original xorg.conf
[02:02] <balint> cant request opera install in adept, neither apt-get install works :(:(:(:(
[02:02] <ejupin> nuu: how can I do that without being able to log in?
[02:02] <nuu> ctrl+alt+F1 and logon from a terminal
[02:02] <wolferine> nuu any more help here?
[02:03] <nuu> cd /etc/X11
[02:03] <ghostcom> p3z: FINALLY :p
[02:03] <nuu> ls xorg.conf*
[02:03] <stoft> wolferine: no, just curious. apache-perl uses apache1.3 afaik
[02:03] <ghostcom> p3z: access to my c: drive :) thanks for the help
[02:03] <ejupin> nuu: that is during the initial boot?
[02:03] <nuu> nope, that's when kde blanks out on you
[02:03] <balint> someone had the same problem with opera?
[02:03] <wolferine> stoft, i would rather, the apache2 really messed up inthe install
[02:03] <wolferine> stoft, and I really dont want to get into it, as I want to try and fix this thing first
[02:04] <nuu> wolferine: paste output of dpkg --list apache*
[02:04] <stoft> wolferine: I think apache is complaining about php, and not your config file as such. try commenting that line and see if it starts. in that case it's the php install that needs fixing.
[02:04] <nuu> what are the status codes ?
[02:04] <balint> welll good night everybody and opera: go to hell if not working on linux :(
[02:04] <ejupin> nuu: thanks, will give it a shot :)
[02:04] <stoft> balint: opera works on linux
[02:04] <wolferine> nuu: http://pastebin.ca/463514
[02:04] <nuu> np ejupin
[02:05] <balint> not on my pc
[02:05] <stoft> balint: go dl it from opera.com
[02:05] <nuu> right, it reports failed config for apache-perl
[02:05] <balint> but why is unable to apt-get?
[02:05] <nuu> you got trouble with your configs, just as stoft cleverly points out :)
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> Err.. How do I shut down X?
[02:05] <Maxdamantus> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace goes to KDM login.
[02:05] <wolferine> ok, sorry, can I just have one or the other help me?
[02:05] <nuu> get into a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:05] <stoft> balint: because it's not in the ubuntu repositories, for various reasons.
[02:06] <wolferine> its hard bounching back and forth between convos
[02:06] <nuu> ( Maxdamantus )
[02:06] <reydelsillon> Hi guys. i got this file et-linux-2.55.x86.run how can i install it?
[02:06] <stoft> nuu, you want to take over?
[02:06] <wolferine> so nuu, can you hold off for a bit
[02:06] <balint> than, they should remove it from adept list!
[02:06] <nuu> sorry stoft im gonna be off soon
[02:06] <stoft> nuu: ok. I'll continue then.
[02:06] <nflava> woo im back
[02:06] <p3z> ghostcom: u r welcome
[02:06] <stoft> balint: whoops, my bad. didn't konw it was in the adept list
[02:06] <wolferine> stoft, I used that httpd.conf for my previous apache-perl install
[02:07] <stoft> wolferine: try installing libapache-mod-suphp first, then starting the server
[02:07] <wolferine> stoft, and it was giving me an issue, that same one, that package isnt available, cause that dir doesnt exist
[02:08] <stoft> wolferine: is that httpd.conf your own or the default configured by the system
[02:08] <nuu> wolferine: you may wanna try dpkg-reconfigure apache-perl
[02:08] <nuu> if you havent yet, that is
[02:08] <wolferine> oh man
[02:08] <nuu> chances are it'll fix your config issues
[02:08] <wolferine> thanks ppl
[02:08] <stoft> nuu: good idea
[02:08] <sonoftheclayr> is there a reason why kdesu starts unfocused?
[02:08] <wolferine> i have to leave, this is really pissing me off
[02:08] <wolferine> and I cannot handle it
[02:08] <nuu> dont explode wolferine ;)
[02:08] <nuu> take care
[02:08] <reydelsillon> /nickserv identify salsero
[02:09] <stoft> wolferine: I agree with nuu, give it some patience. we got past the apache2 problem didn't we?
[02:09] <reydelsillon> crashed.
[02:09] <p3z> ghostcom: what sound hw in your laptop?
[02:09] <reydelsillon> anyone know how i can install a *.run file?
[02:09] <wolferine> i have been trying to get apache to work properly for the past month
[02:09] <nuu> sh blah.run
[02:09] <ghostcom> p3z: not exactly sure to be honest...it's not very loud though
[02:09] <nuu> or sudo sh blah.run
[02:09] <nuu> or chmod +x blah.run && ./blah.run
[02:10] <stoft> wolferine: if you want apache up and running with php, I think we can lick this in under an hour
[02:10] <wolferine> i strongly doubt it
[02:10] <wolferine> but I have lost all patience
[02:10] <sonoftheclayr> wolferine: why not use xampp?
[02:10] <p3z> ghostcom: now i am egaer to hear some music of mine
[02:11] <nflava> hey all
[02:11] <nflava> im new to ubantu
[02:11] <yume> yop yop
[02:11] <nuu> wolferine: your goal is to make that dpkg --list you pasted, list "ii" for the status of your apache-perl package
[02:12] <nuu> it right now lists iF, which means package installed, but failed config
[02:12] <nuu> so in such cases, dpkg-reconfigure typically helps, if you havent tried that yet
[02:12] <nflava> !resolution
[02:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:12] <wolferine> nuu, as I said, im not gonna try it anymore
[02:12] <wolferine> but thanks, your being thoughtful
[02:13] <nuu> you mean you tried it, and it didnt help ?
[02:13] <wolferine> i mean i stopped trying
[02:13] <wolferine> anything
[02:13] <nuu> well, one last try wont kill you ;)
[02:13] <wolferine> yes, it will
[02:13] <wolferine> i can feel my blood pressure rise about this whole situation
[02:13] <nuu> plus, we've all stopped breathing here
[02:14] <nuu> i was supposed to get some sleep, but still!
[02:14] <nuu> now everyone wants to know how it turns out ;)
[02:14] <stoft> and I was supposed to watch a movie! :)
[02:14] <nuu> hehe
[02:14] <p3z> ghostcom: and amarok fetching mp3 support by itself... nice going
[02:14] <stoft> but this is a thriller I can't stop watching!
[02:14] <nuu> ahah stoft :P
[02:15] <imagine> crimsun: ping
[02:15] <yume> hi, do you know if there is a problem with network acces on feisty? i can speek with Konversation but i can't launch google with konqueror :/
[02:15] <nuu> we're all wondering if wolferine, the cold blooded apache murderer, will kill that one last indian
[02:15] <crimsun> imagine: pong
[02:15] <imagine> crimsun: Hi!:) did you have time to make some magic for me?
[02:16] <crimsun> imagine: what was the issue?
[02:16] <mcrandello> can someone help with installing something from source? configure complains of not being abole to find freeglut or glut but I have installed both, including dev packages
[02:16] <imagine> no sound with snd-hda-intel
[02:16] <imagine> crimsun: you said you had to look for the source for me
[02:16] <mcrandello> apt-getted damn near everything with "glut" in it at this point
[02:16] <p3z> imagine: i've got sound with the same hw
[02:17] <imagine> p3z: how?
[02:17] <crimsun> imagine: I'll need to catch you in an hour for you to try something
[02:17] <crimsun> imagine: I'm still at work.
[02:17] <imagine> crimsun: Okay! :)
[02:17] <icecruncher> yume: kopete works but konq and ff dont?
[02:17] <mcrandello> gluttonous configure program wants more
[02:17] <imagine> Sorry bout that
[02:17] <p3z> livecd boot, automatic
[02:17] <ghostcom> p3z: I haven't dabbled with the apps really much except kopete and konqurer
[02:17] <yume> yes :/
[02:17] <mcrandello> hard disk about ready for vomitorium :(
[02:17] <morla> hiya all :)
[02:17] <p3z> ghostcom: i see
[02:18] <imagine> p3z: How you got it work?
[02:18] <ghostcom> hey morla how's it going?
[02:18] <p3z> imagine: it worked automatic
[02:18] <icecruncher> yume: could you check waht setting ff and conq are on... btw are you running through a proxie?
[02:18] <nuu> does anybody here use kubuntu on a sony vaio laptop ?
[02:18] <morla> Firefox in Feisty drives me mad.. how do I get it to remember 'open with' apps?
[02:18] <yume> icecruncher: i don't use proxie.
[02:18] <icecruncher> k
[02:19] <icecruncher> check the connection setings in ff
[02:19] <p3z> imagine: actually i'm losing my religion with R.E.M. (o:
[02:19] <stoft> nuu: a dopo, nice tag-teaming even though he seems to have given up
[02:19] <morla> ghostcom: well at home at saturday night  so not too well :)
[02:19] <nuu> stoft: notte :)
[02:19] <yume> icecruncher: i think the confi is ok because i can use Konversation to speek with you
[02:19] <yume> what is ff ?
[02:19] <icecruncher> firefox
[02:20] <ghostcom> morla: join the club.  last night i was out until about 5am and am regretting it
[02:20] <ghostcom> morla: sleep is taking over me :p
[02:20] <p3z> imagine: have u seen sound hw info in infocenter?
[02:20] <nuu> nite guys
[02:21] <ghostcom> night nuu
[02:21] <nuu> later ghostcom
[02:21] <yume> firefox isn't install with kubuntu
[02:21] <p3z> imagine: only problem with sound that it is quite quiet
[02:21] <morla> ghostcom: I start to dislike being out so long and sleeping so long when the weather is so damn fine like now.. otherwise boozing till in the morning is quite right for me :)
[02:22] <yume> icecruncher:  i only use Konqueror
[02:22] <icecruncher> sorry about that :)
[02:22] <yume> ^
[02:22] <yume> ^ ^
[02:23] <p3z> balint: szeva
[02:23] <icecruncher> yume: and ping in konsole works right?
[02:23] <balint> p3z magyar? :D
[02:23] <p3z> balint: gy tnik
[02:23] <balint> :D
[02:23] <balint> nagyon :)
[02:23] <p3z> balint: mondcsak milyen hanghw van neked?
[02:24] <balint> alaplapi realtek
[02:24] <yume> icecruncher: i can test. Can you give me the commande line ?
[02:24] <balint> 7.1
[02:24] <ghostcom> morla: it rained here a bit and was not enjoyable at all :p
[02:24] <p3z> balint: mert ami nekem van az igencsak csendeske sajnos, nem volt ilyen gondod?
[02:24] <balint> nem
[02:24] <icecruncher> ping www.google.com
[02:24] <balint> told fel mixerbe pcm-et scak n nagyon hogy ne sercegjen
[02:24] <yume> icecruncher:  the ping is ok
[02:24] <morla> ghostcom, perfect weather for clubbing the night away
[02:24] <icecruncher> wierd
[02:25] <p3z> balint: azon mr tl vagyok
[02:26] <balint> p3z neked miylen hangkarid van?
[02:26] <yume> icecruncher: if i install ff, the problem can be resolve ?
[02:26] <p3z> balint: eddig egsz szimpike kde a livecdrl, br azt zokon vettem, hogy nekem kellett szivni a hd particik mountolsval
[02:26] <icecruncher> yume: I'm not sure
[02:26] <p3z> balint: hda intel, interglt minden, laptop
[02:26] <icecruncher> yume: can you download anything and intall it from the web?
[02:26] <balint> jah mg nem is installltad? csak live cd-rl nzed?
[02:26] <sonoftheclayr> yume: have you disabled ipv6?
[02:26] <p3z> balint: meg mg az a bnatom, hogy "csak" 1024 a felbontsom 1400 helyett
[02:27] <balint> azt be lehet lltani
[02:27] <yume> icecruncher: i haven't disable something
[02:27] <balint> konzolba: dpkg-reconfigure
[02:27] <chijin> english
[02:27] <balint> vagy valami hasonl :)
[02:27] <p3z> balint: valamit mr ltgattam, csak az x-et kellene jrainditani, azt meg mosst nem merem
[02:28] <balint> ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:28] <p3z> balint: inkbb elmentem valahogy az eddigi dolgokat, hogy ne kelljen megint megcsinlni mindent
[02:28] <balint> ha nem nstalltad, ccsak live cd-rl vagy, akkor hiba mented
[02:29] <yume> icecruncher: i can download anything with xdcc but i haven't test with http
[02:29] <p3z> ghostcom: sorry priv msgs are blocked
[02:29] <p3z> ghostcom: btw it is hungarian
[02:29] <ghostcom> p3z: boo :p
[02:29] <icecruncher> yume: k
[02:29] <imagine> Good sound is working
[02:29] <imagine> crimsun: I did: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto and it worked
[02:29] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: whink ivp-6 is the prob?
[02:29] <p3z> balint: itt azt rjak, hogy meg lehet csinlni https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[02:30] <icecruncher> *think
[02:30] <p3z> imagine: so how loud it is for you?
[02:30] <imagine> damn loud
[02:30] <imagine> it's perfect
[02:30] <imagine> it's even louder than when it was on SuSE 10.2
[02:31] <p3z> imagine: for me it is pretty quiet
[02:31] <p3z> imagine: compared to the sound level in win
[02:31] <imagine> p3z: alsamixer might solved it
[02:31] <_kmh_> hi
[02:32] <ghostcom> alright I'm off night everyone and thanks to those who helped
[02:32] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: it could be, i've always had trouble with ipv6 until i upgraded to feisty
[02:32] <icecruncher> yume you could try following the instrucions in this post to disable ipv-6 and then test it. be sure to make a backup of the original http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838
[02:32] <icecruncher> sonoftheclayr: lol
[02:32] <_kmh_> in which file does kubuntu/adept store package/repository information ?
[02:32] <balint> p3z yo8 holnap dolgoznom kell :) br mg nagykor sse vagyok :)
[02:32] <balint> live cd belltst nem tom hogyan kell
[02:32] <icecruncher> _kmh_: what do you mean?
[02:32] <balint> goodnight all
[02:33] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04.  However the installer freezes the screen at 15% when its detecting file systems.  What can I do?
[02:33] <p3z> balint: j jt
[02:33] <leo_> ...
[02:33] <_kmh_> icecruncher : the repository addresses basically
[02:33] <icecruncher> k
[02:34] <p3z> imagine: would u send me a screen capture of your sound settings from kinfocenter?
[02:34] <ZEROCOOL12389> can anyone help me
[02:34] <icecruncher> _kmh_:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <ZEROCOOL12389> i have issues with my notebook
[02:34] <icecruncher> ZEROCOOL12389: about what?
[02:35] <ZEROCOOL12389> no sound
[02:35] <icecruncher> _kmh_: to edit just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:37] <imagine> http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7548/tableau131fl2.jpg
[02:37] <bryan> can someone tell me what's a good irc server to use for (k)ubuntu? also, is there a better technology than irc today to support chat rooms?
[02:37] <imagine> ZEROCOOL12389: try this: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[02:37] <neoncode> I have a USB flash stick with a FAT32 filesystem and I carn't set it to be writeable from my user account...
[02:38] <neoncode> How do I set it so that it is?
[02:38] <ZEROCOOL12389> ok ill start at the begining ... i have a NEC VERSA P8210 .... the sound card is  Realtek HD Audio with s/pdif
[02:39] <icecruncher> neoncode: same prob here, I'd like to know to
[02:39] <BluesKaj> chats are a matter of taste and security , bryan..IRC is very veratile and configurable , especially for server clients
[02:39] <imagine> ZEROCOOL12389: did you paste the command I gave you? I have a realtek mixer as well
[02:39] <ZEROCOOL12389> HD tho
[02:40] <imagine> ZEROCOOL12389: did you try it?
[02:40] <ZEROCOOL12389> i cant yet i have to reinstall i fucked b4 with some drivers off http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[02:41] <bryan> BluesKaj: i like IRC, i used it at my last company and really helped out on collaboration.  i just don't know what competes with it
[02:41] <bryan> BluesKaj: do you know the name of the irc server package?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> bryan , most IRC clients have a server config , but that's as much as know about it
[02:43] <p3z> imagine: tx, u have different sound mixer
[02:43] <BluesKaj> bryan,which IRC client are you using ?
[02:45] <_kmh_> icecruncher : thanks
[02:45] <icecruncher> _kmh_: np
[02:45] <bryan> BluesKaj: i think you misunderstand me.   i want to install an irc server in my company.  i'm just asking what is the server package
[02:46] <BluesKaj> ok ,what server OS ?
[02:46] <bryan> kubuntu 7.04
[02:47] <neoncode> icecruncher: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295227 Found it
[02:47] <icecruncher> neoncode: thnks
[02:49] <p3z> 'night
[02:50] <neoncode> icecruncher: np
[02:50] <thomas__> how do u install programs on kubuntu
[02:50] <thomas__> how do you install programs on kubuntu
[02:50] <crimsun> imagine: ok
[02:51] <crimsun> imagine: I've already submitted that fix
[02:54] <ZEROCOOL12389> do u have to use the alternate cd for a laptop
[02:54] <DaSkreech> ZEROCOOL12389: No
[02:54] <fawkesfyre> hello...
[02:55] <ZEROCOOL12389> so what can i do to get sound working
[02:55] <DaSkreech> !sound
[02:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:55] <DaSkreech> thomas_: Adept
[02:55] <DaSkreech> !adept
[02:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:55] <imagine> crimsun: it was you :) well thanks :)
[02:55] <ZEROCOOL12389> ok
[02:56] <wolferine> what is dpkg?
[02:56] <fawkesfyre> i just installed kubntu, it detected my modem, and the modem dials out.. i am a dial up user with earthlink... i tried all of the various connection protocols, and none of them seemed to work.  any suggestions?
[02:57] <wolferine> dont use a dail-up modem, is my suggestion
[02:57] <icecruncher> wolferine: pakacge manager for debian
[02:57] <fawkesfyre> i dont have an alternative
[02:57] <wolferine> icecruncher, and synaptic is what then?
[02:57] <Lam_> what's the best way to use my laptop to access my desktop? VNC?
[02:57] <icecruncher> wolferine: dunno
[02:58] <wolferine> icecruncher, its a package manager for ubuntu
[02:58] <icecruncher> wolferine: yeah, but a optional one
[02:58] <wolferine> icecruncher, what do you mean optional?
[02:58] <icecruncher> wolferine: i
[02:58] <icecruncher> wolferine: it's not installed wiht kubuntu by default
[02:59] <wolferine> icecruncher, that doesnt explain what it is
[02:59] <wolferine> and isnt really relevant
[02:59] <icecruncher> :)
[03:01] <Lam_> !krdc
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Lam_> !krfb
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krfb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <fawkesfyre> so is PAP the proper protocol to use with modern dial up isp's?
[03:09] <Search4Lancer> how do I do something on a command line as a different user?
[03:09] <wolferine> who was helping with Apache earlier?
[03:10] <ArtMoonik> ca dgoute les gens qui parlent anglais
[03:10] <stoft> wolferine: me, and nuu
[03:10] <stoft> wolferine: nuu has gone to bed
[03:12] <wolferine> stoft, my proftpd was removed
[03:12] <wolferine> so I imagine other packages too, from the apache removal
[03:12] <wolferine> thats what I didnt want to do :(
[03:13] <stoft> wolferine: synaptic is a graphical package manager, and works as a frontend to apt (Advanced Packaging Tool)
[03:13] <wolferine> stoft, .... ok.....
[03:13] <stoft> ouch, sorry to hear that.
[03:13] <stoft> wolferine: see if the proftpd config files are still there
[03:14] <wolferine> it was
[03:14] <wolferine> so i just had to reinstall
[03:14] <wolferine> which was good obviously
[03:14] <stoft> definitely!
[03:14] <wolferine> but i am really hating this whole "removing" packages process
[03:14] <nflava> reinstall, thats what i did today lol\
[03:14] <stoft> wolferine: what is your end goal for apache?
[03:14] <wolferine> this would be my 6th reinstall in a month
[03:15] <wolferine> stoft, working would be nice
[03:15] <wolferine> reinstall doesnt include the initial install
[03:15] <stoft> understandable, but too unspecific, working in what way with support for what?
[03:15] <wolferine> so 7 ubuntu installs in a month, isnt fun
[03:15] <wolferine> stoft, its not even running atm
[03:15] <wolferine> my .conf is messed
[03:16] <stoft> I know. still, what is your end goal for apache? php? perl? mysql?
[03:16] <wolferine> apache-perl, mysql, postgresql, php5, phpbb, and some other php frontends
[03:17] <wolferine> then its on to admin networking tools
[03:17] <wolferine> so I have alot of work depending on this setup
[03:17] <stoft> ok
[03:19] <stoft> wolferine: do you want to forge ahead now or leave it for another day?
[03:19] <fawkesfyre> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[03:20] <wolferine> stoft, lets start it off here, what is libphp5.so (is it required) ?
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[03:21] <stoft> wolferine: libphp5.so should be the library of php5 that apache tries to invoke at startup, but right now you don't have php5 for apache-perl installed iirc.
[03:21] <wolferine> does apache-perl share dirs with apache2?
[03:22] <stoft> wolferine: I do not know.
[03:22] <wolferine> for example:
[03:22] <wolferine> locate libphp5.so
[03:22] <wolferine> /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[03:22] <stoft> wolferine: is that the path/file that the conf is pointing to?
[03:22] <wolferine> looks like fun nalioth
[03:23] <wolferine> no, thats why I have the error stoft
[03:23] <stoft> wolferine: have you installed libapache-mod-suphp?
[03:24] <wolferine> let me look
[03:24] <levi_> i have a question
[03:24] <wolferine> mp
[03:24] <stoft> wolferine: hang on. lets approach this from a different angle. let's get apache running first, then we'll try to add php and the rest.
[03:24] <wolferine> no* its not installed
[03:24] <stoft> ok
[03:24] <BluesKaj> levi_: just ask
[03:25] <stoft> wolferine: the current config file, is there anything in it that you've added manually or would like to save?
[03:26] <trotek> where is the KDE's trash contents stored?
[03:26] <trotek> where are*
[03:26] <wolferine> i was adding stuff to get php working
[03:26] <wolferine> so I added a few lines at the bottom
[03:26] <levi_> annoyingly in a hidden folder called .trash-100
[03:26] <levi_> *trash-1000
[03:26] <BluesKaj> they aren't , you delete from the trash, it's gone
[03:26] <tb> hi there   -   I just did an apt-get for the kubuntu desktop. All seems well. How do I interact with beagle in Kubuntu? anyone know a good guide?
[03:27] <levi_> well. on another drive other than the root they are
[03:27] <stoft> wolferine: first off, save a backup of your config file
[03:28] <trotek> levi_: i can't find it in my home directory
[03:28] <wolferine> ok apache works
[03:28] <wolferine> not to add in php
[03:28] <nalioth> trotek: ~/.local/share/Trash
[03:28] <stoft> wolferine: did you remove the php lines?
[03:28] <wolferine> what do I need to recognize .php files?
[03:29] <wolferine> just commented them out
[03:29] <stoft> ok
[03:29] <nalioth> wolferine: a web browser?
[03:29] <levi_> it should be in the trash bin
[03:29] <wolferine> nalioth, stoft's got it
[03:29] <levi_> trotek
[03:29] <wolferine> thanks though
[03:29] <trotek> nalioth: there's nothing in that directory, but i added a trash:/ shortcut on the desktop and there's stuff inside
[03:29] <stoft> wolferine: do "dpkg -l|grep php" and see if "php5" is one of the packages, prefixed with "ii"
[03:30] <wolferine> friends are about to show up stoft
[03:30] <wolferine> so ill probably have to leave
[03:30] <stoft> ok, np, friends are nice to have around :)
[03:30] <wolferine> ii  libapache2-mod-php5                        5.2.1-0ubuntu1.1                       server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
[03:30] <trotek> the reason i'm looking for the trash can location is because there's some stuff in there that i can't seem to delete
[03:30] <wolferine> not when the g/f and I are pissed at each other :/
[03:31] <Flosoft> hey
[03:31] <Flosoft> how do I install flash support in firefox?
[03:31] <Flosoft> preferrably the official flash 9
[03:31] <levi_> download the firefox flash lugin from adobe
[03:31] <wolferine> Flosoft, its covered in the ubuntu guide (if you google it)
[03:31] <levi_> *plugin
[03:31] <Flosoft> !flash
[03:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:31] <nalioth> !tell Flosoft about flash
[03:31] <wolferine> ok, so stoft I found the file in locate
[03:32] <wolferine> stoft, so what do I need in the .conf?
[03:32] <stoft> wolferine: did you turn up any other php5 files with dpkg?
[03:32] <wolferine> oh yeah
[03:32] <stoft> which ones?
[03:32] <wolferine> ii  php5 , cgi and common
[03:32] <wolferine> and
[03:32] <wolferine> ii  libapache-mod-suphp
[03:32] <wolferine> so 5
[03:33] <wolferine> er 6
[03:33] <stoft> ok. one step ahead at least.
[03:33] <wolferine> lol
[03:33] <wolferine> ii  suphp-common
[03:33] <wolferine> :/
[03:33] <stoft> is apache-perl still prefixed with "iF"?
[03:33] <Flosoft> florian@Zeus:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <Flosoft> Password:
[03:34] <Flosoft> Reading package lists... Done
[03:34] <Flosoft> Building dependency tree
[03:34] <Flosoft> Reading state information... Done
[03:34] <Flosoft> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:34] <Flosoft> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:34] <Flosoft> is only available from another source
[03:34] <Flosoft> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[03:34] <Flosoft> that is what I get :S
[03:34] <levi_> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:34] <levi_> Use that next time ^
[03:34] <sybux_> I'm looking for a mp3 mixer application. Anyone know one ?
[03:35] <levi_> Oh yeah question
[03:35] <levi_> how would I use the Iso of feisty I downloaded
[03:35] <HymnToLife> levi_, burn it onto a CD
[03:35] <levi_> in a certain way?
[03:36] <tb> can anyone tell me how to put beagle on the launcher bar like you do in gnome? I just got the kubuntu desktop and am trying to decide if I can do what I do in gnome.
[03:36] <tb> Thanks
[03:36] <stoft> sybux_: a quick grep returns mp3blaster, it might be what you're looking for
[03:36] <HymnToLife> you need to actually burn the image, not burn the ISO as a file on a data CD
[03:36] <HymnToLife> how you do that depends on the sotware you use
[03:36] <levi_> Howd I go  about that?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> !iso
[03:36] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:37] <Flosoft> any idea why the package is missing in the 64bit repo?
[03:38] <sybux_> stoft: thx but it's only in text mode :(
[03:38] <Lam_> !x11vnc
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11vnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <HymnToLife> Flosoft, because there is no Flash Player for 64 bit
[03:39] <Flosoft> so how do I install it on my machine?
[03:39] <HymnToLife> !flash
[03:39] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:39] <HymnToLife> see first link, there are a few workaround but it can be a PITA
[03:39] <HymnToLife> why are you using 64 bit anyway ?
[03:41] <levi_> HymnToLife, is the filepath of the iso included in that code as well?
[03:42] <leo> Kaffeine doesnt play a DVD, do i need to install something?
[03:42] <stoft> tb: not sure, haven't used beagle at all, but you might want to look into "kat" or "strigi" which are beagle-like applications for the kde desktop. I don't know what state they are in.
[03:43] <HymnToLife> levi_, to mount it ? of course, or you'll get a "no such file" error
[03:43] <levi_> xD
[03:43] <levi_> Stupid question
[03:43] <BluesKaj> !codecs | leo
[03:43] <ubotu> leo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:44] <leo> ubotu blueskaj thanks, i'll look for them
[03:46] <levi_> and the mount point of what
[03:46] <leo> hahaha.. i've talked to the bot!
[03:46] <levi_> my cd drive?
[03:48] <Jaevel> can anyone help me with my system ???
[03:48] <bryan_> for an IRC server, do you recommend dancer-ircd, iacd, ngircd or rageircd ??? i didn't realize there are so many irc servers in the repository.
[03:49] <levi_> HymnToLife, the mount point of my HDD or Cd drive
[03:49] <HymnToLife> wherever you want to mount your ISO
[03:50] <levi_> the entire point is so I can install feisty unless theres a way i can just update from 6.06 to 7.04 over the internet
[03:52] <red22> my connection keeps dying and coming back a few times per hour for no apparent reason (no wireless parts anywhere)... any clues pls?
[03:52] <t> uh wtf
[03:53] <Jaevel> Is there anyone that can help??? i have a failed upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[03:53] <t> um
[03:53] <t> where the fuck am i?
[03:53] <red22> Jaevel: describe the state the machine is in / what specifically you need
[03:54] <Jaevel> system will boot up to fsck with "ok" then hang forever
[03:55] <Jaevel> thats as far as it gets....
[03:55] <red22> Jaevel: no clue here. hope somebody else knows what to do.  i'll search when i'm back in a bit.
[03:56] <Jaevel> red22, ok... thanks...
[03:56] <Jaevel> is there another channel i need to be in???
[03:57] <anakim> e aew
[03:57] <anakim> alguem me arrumar um sources.list pro meu ubuntu 7.04 descente
[03:58] <dwidmann> Jaevel: what partition is being scanned? What format is it?
[03:59] <Jaevel> dwidmann, well, i think the scanning is complete... it says ok on the right but after that it just hangs
[03:59] <Jaevel> it scanned /sda1 i think...
[04:00] <dwidmann> hmm, and what format is sda1 in?
[04:01] <Jaevel> dwidmann: everything was default installation... how can i check?
[04:01] <Jaevel> ext3 i think??
[04:01] <dwidmann> probably ext3 then, I was just checking it wasn't something like Fat32
[04:02] <Jaevel> dwidmann, someone else told me to get live CD running and said something about having to mount the FS by hand?
[04:02] <dwidmann> Jaevel, that sounds like an excellent idea
[04:03] <dwidmann> Are you doing that now? Have you mounted it yet?
[04:03] <Paradigm_Shift> Does anyone know of a way to display a list of folders that shows the actual size (in MB or GB) of the contents of each folder?
[04:03] <Jaevel> dwidmann, ok... i have Live CD running and thats as far a i am now...
[04:03] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: df
[04:04] <Paradigm_Shift> thanks - what about in a filemanager gui?
[04:04] <dwidmann> Jaevel, Okay, pull up Konsole, in it type "mkdir /media/sda1" then type "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 / media/sda1"
[04:05] <dwidmann> (copying and pasting works too)
[04:05] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: Try a program called filelight
[04:05] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: thank you very much!
[04:05] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: no problem
[04:06] <Paradigm_Shift> I have been looking to replicate that functionality of expolorerXP but without any luck
[04:06] <Paradigm_Shift> *explorerXP
[04:06] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: filelight is simply awesome, I've never seen anything like it before. You'll see :D
[04:07] <Paradigm_Shift> is that the one that shows a "picture" of the entire filestructure in color with the size of the rectangle proportional to the size of the contents?
[04:07] <Jaevel> dwidmann, i guess i have to install Konsole...
[04:07] <Jaevel> dwidmann, installing now...
[04:08] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: I think so, pie charts, and you can click on a wedge and it goes into that folder, showing yet another pie chart. Easiest way around to check where your disk space is being used
[04:08] <dwidmann> Jaevel, no
[04:08] <dwidmann> Jaevel: k-menu -> system -> Konsole (terminal program)
[04:09] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: cool - thanks. I am looking for something linux native to provide this functionality: http://www.explorerxp.com/
[04:09] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I archive alot of data, so I am always trying to fill each DVD as efficiently as possible
[04:10] <Jaevel> dwidmann, in running Ubuntu not Kde at the moment trying to get back Kubuntu
[04:10] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: explorerXP really fit the bill in Windows, but now that I kicked windows to the curb, I am trying to find a replacement for that
[04:10] <Jaevel> dwidmann, will be a problem?
[04:11] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: I've never seen it before, you can probably replicate a lot of the functionality with Konqueror if you wanted to
[04:11] <dwidmann> Jaevel: then use gnome-terminal, it makes no difference
[04:12] <bryan_> which IRC server should i use in feisty? dancer-ircd, iacd, ngircd or rageircd?
[04:12] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I was hoping that was the case, but alas I have not found a way. I installed explorerXP under wine, so I can sort folders by content size. Of course, there is no dragging and dropping into k3b or other burner app. I am most of the way there using wine - just hoping to do it natively and more efficiently
[04:13] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: if you're curious about some of the things you can do in Konqueror, try going into ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/service_menus/ and looking at some of the files. You can do some pretty nice stuff there.
[04:13] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: You can drag and drop between most any app in KDE
[04:13] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I will look into that - thanks for the pointer. Hopefully I do not bork my system in the process. ;)
[04:14] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: at the worst you'll get a popup telling you there's a messed up file in the service menu folder
[04:14] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: true, but not from a windows filemanager replacement
[04:14] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: ah, yes, that would be a problem
[04:14] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: yeah. I am a bit of noob, but not that much :)
[04:15] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I have mad WIndows skills. Still cutting my chops in linux and learning the methods and processes
[04:15] <baudthief> i'm trying to install vmware-server on feisty, but when I run vmware-install.pl, I get alot of things like this "vmware-install.pl: 8: use: not found"
[04:16] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: hehe, I've finally been using Linux long enough that I've started losing my edge in Windows, not too much so but still
[04:16] <lettuce_> [mntent] : line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[04:16] <lettuce_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[04:16] <lettuce_> missing codepage or other error
[04:16] <lettuce_> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:16] <lettuce_> dmesg | tail or so
[04:16] <systemsuffer> does any one here play eternalduel or any other text based games
[04:16] <lettuce_> oops sorry
[04:16] <dwidmann> lettuce_: is the fstype specified correct?
[04:17] <dwidmann> bryan_: use any server you want
[04:17] <Jaevel> dwidmann, ok, i see my files in /media/sda1
[04:17] <systemsuffer> how do you direct the konsel to the desktop to install a file
[04:18] <LettuceJoans> I have a problem. I just formatted a partition as ext3 and when I right click it and say mount. it gives me an error.
[04:18] <dwidmann> Jaevel, navigate to /media/sda1/var/log/dmesg, copy its contents to the pastebin and give us the url
[04:18] <dwidmann> !pastebin
[04:18] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I hear ya. Everyone talks about how easy Windows is. Crap - it took a long time to really understand what to do and where to go to accomplish it. I have to routinely remote into my father's computer to fix or finish tasks for him. Every system requires the user to learn the system. No matter what you switch from or to, it is a steep up hill climb.
[04:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:18] <systemsuffer> how do you navigate to a file
[04:19] <bryan_> dwidmann: my linux skills are very weak.  i just want to install one that others think is really good and easy to setup
[04:19] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: Yeah, especially when the registry is involved ... crazy stuff.
[04:19] <LettuceJoans> lol
[04:19] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: no kidding - biggest pile of crap ever developed. I love hex file names - very easy and intuitive, yto be sure - not!
[04:19] <dwidmann> bryan_: Easy to set up? Should be near effortless to  join an irc server in Konversation I would think, all you need is the server url (and sometimes the port)
[04:20] <bryan_> dwidmann: i'm not asking about the client.  i want to install a server
[04:20] <dwidmann> ah
[04:20] <LettuceJoans> I have a problem. I just formatted a partition as ext3 and when I right click it and say mount. it gives me an error.
[04:20] <dwidmann> oops
[04:20] <systemsuffer> any gamers in the house
[04:20] <Jaevel> dwidmann, i have dmesg.0 and dmesg.1 .2 .3 all with gz at the end...
[04:20] <LettuceJoans> I'm a gamer
[04:20] <dwidmann> sorry bryan_
[04:20] <systemsuffer> what you play
[04:21] <LettuceJoans> mostly fps
[04:21] <systemsuffer> FPs?
[04:21] <LettuceJoans> i also play WoW
[04:21] <systemsuffer> yea Wow
[04:21] <systemsuffer> rocks
[04:22] <dwidmann> Jaevel: hmm, try dmesg.0 if there's no "dmesg" (without the 0)
[04:22] <bryan_> dwidmann: unfortunately, there are 7 irc servers in the repository, i have no idea which one is good
[04:22] <LettuceJoans> anyway, I have a problem. I just formatted a partition as ext3 and when I right click it and say mount. it gives me an error.
[04:22] <Jaevel> dwidmann, sorry i found it... is that a text file?
[04:22] <systemsuffer> do you play any text games
[04:22] <dwidmann> Jaevel: should be a text file
[04:22] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: I looked in the servicemenus folder - it looks like templates for tasks. Not sure what I can do to make konqueror display the total size of the contents of the folder as opposed to the 4kb size of the individual folder file
[04:22] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: Hmm, not sure about that one, but that explorerXP program looked to be boasting a lot more features than just that
[04:22] <LettuceJoans> text games?
[04:23] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: how about the metabar? I forget what all it shows
[04:23] <systemsuffer> yea online text games like eternalduel ever heard of that
[04:23] <LettuceJoans> no
[04:23] <systemsuffer> fairenofe
[04:23] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: yeas, explorerXP has much functionality - I just used it for its ability to sort by folder content size
[04:24] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: not sure about doing that :\ never saw that feature anywhere before
[04:24] <LettuceJoans> is anyone here familiar with hard drive formatting a stuff? I've asked my question 3 times now
[04:24] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: yes :(
[04:25] <Jaevel> dwidmann, ok i see the file what is pastbin? website?
[04:26] <dwidmann> !pastebin
[04:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: I am, sorry
[04:27] <LettuceJoans> I have a problem. I just formatted a partition as ext3 and when I right click it and say mount. it gives me an error.
[04:27] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: if you just formatted it, maybe there was some sort of problem, if it's not loaded with goodies try deleting the partition, and recreating it
[04:28] <LettuceJoans> I've re-done it 3 times
[04:28] <LettuceJoans> and it keeps screwing up
[04:28] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: What program are you using to do it?
[04:29] <stoft> LettuceJoans: have you tried mounting it as root/superuser?
[04:29] <systemsuffer> any php expertise
[04:29] <LettuceJoans> I don't think I have
[04:29] <Jaevel> dwidmann, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18184/
[04:29] <LettuceJoans> how do I do that?
[04:29] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: oh, and be sure you're not partitioning while that hard disk  has any mounted partitions, that can plagues famine and death to visit you
[04:30] <LettuceJoans> ooooh
[04:30] <stoft> LettuceJoans: have you defined it in your fstab?
[04:30] <LettuceJoans> what's fstab?
[04:30] <systemsuffer> any hackers here?
[04:31] <stoft> LettuceJoans: ok, open a command prompt/terminal
[04:31] <Whiz2> I need a bit of help with one of my startup scripts (inet.d)
[04:31] <LettuceJoans> ok
[04:31] <stoft> systemsuffer: what's the prob?
[04:31] <Whiz2> it's for teapop... i just installed it, and created the script on it's own, but when i rebooted the system, teapop didn't start
[04:31] <Whiz2> I can start it manually tho
[04:32] <LettuceJoans> terminal open
[04:32] <stoft> LettuceJoans: write "sudo mount /dev/<your_drive_device> /media/<your_drive_name>" paying attention to spaces and replacing <your_drive_device> and <your_drive_name> with the appropriate values
[04:32] <dwidmann> systemsuffer: hackers maybe, crackers, I hope not
[04:33] <Jaevel> dwidmann, did i do it correctly?
[04:33] <dwidmann> Jaevel: I didn't see anything that jumped out at me, except maybe one thing regarding the file system, it's mentioning that it's having to do file system recovery
[04:33] <systemsuffer> i hate crackers hacking is for fun not to damage system
[04:34] <Simeon_H> zomg hax0r
[04:34] <Jaevel> dwidmann, i let it run for 2 days.... never finished....
[04:34] <LettuceJoans> do i keep the "<" and ">" things?
[04:35] <stoft> LettuceJoans: nope
[04:35] <LettuceJoans> ok thank you
[04:35] <systemsuffer> and telnet users?
[04:35] <systemsuffer> Any*
[04:35] <Whiz2> i used to use telnet
[04:36] <Whiz2> but never in linux
[04:36] <LettuceJoans> for drive device what do I put? HD?
[04:36] <systemsuffer> whizz2: get much from it
[04:36] <Jaevel> dwidmann, i get the Kubuntu desktop loading screen, then goes to DOS like screen and ends at the fsck with ok and stops there forever
[04:36] <Paradigm_Shift> dwidmann: thank your for your suggestions and the chat!
[04:37] <dwidmann> Paradigm_Shift: you're welcome
[04:37] <systemsuffer> whiz did you get much out of it
[04:37] <stoft> LettuceJoans: if you don't know which device is your new partition/drive, you have to figure it out. try first running the command "fdisk -l" and look at what it returns
[04:37] <Whiz2> systemsuffer: i only ever used it to login to a mux for RPG gaming, but that was years ago
[04:37] <LettuceJoans> ok
[04:38] <GWillakers> I can't believe how much better Linux is now compared to a couple of years ago.  I installed 7.04 on my laptop and everything just works out of the box.  See ya microsuck
[04:38] <dwidmann> Jaevel: in gnome-terminal again, try running "e2fsck /dev/sda1"
[04:38] <systemsuffer> on what port and how did you find out the login or pass or was it yours?
[04:38] <LettuceJoans> mount: special device /dev/fdisk does not exist
[04:39] <LettuceJoans> shoudl i try fdisk-2?
[04:39] <Jaevel> dwidmann, "WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:39] <Jaevel> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:39] <Jaevel> "
[04:39] <Whiz2> systemsuffer: it was all assigned to me, and email ed to me by the GM
[04:39] <dwidmann> Jaevel: take its advice and umount it first
[04:39] <stoft> LettuceJoans: oops. nono, cancel what you were writing previously and write only "fdisk -l"
[04:39] <systemsuffer> o alright thanks
[04:39] <Jaevel> dwidmann, thats umount ?
[04:39] <dwidmann> Jaevel, yes, "umount /dev/sda1"
[04:39] <LettuceJoans> no, that is what I put
[04:40] <LettuceJoans> I copied ans pasted all the stuff you said
[04:40] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: it wouldn't be /dev/fdisk, that much I'm sure of
[04:40] <Whiz2> systemsuffer: you're welcome
[04:40] <Jaevel> dwidmann, "umount: /media/sda1: device is busy"
[04:40] <stoft> LettuceJoans: don't, execute only the command "fdisk -l" first. nothing else
[04:40] <LettuceJoans> oh wait you mean don't type anything but fdisk -l and then hit enter?
[04:40] <stoft> yes
[04:40] <systemsuffer> do  you know any thing about php
[04:41] <stoft> !php
[04:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:41] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: run "fdisk -l" to get a list of available partitions, pick the one you created/wanted to mount afterwards
[04:41] <LettuceJoans> nope :(
[04:41] <dwidmann> Jaevel: Make sure you're not in the /media/sda1 folder and don't have any files from /media/sda1 open
[04:41] <Jaevel> dwidmann, oh yeah... duhh
[04:41] <stoft> LettuceJoans: "nope"?
[04:42] <LettuceJoans> what was the answer to "do I know anything about php files
[04:42] <stoft> LettuceJoans: ah ok. what did "fdisk -l" print out?
[04:43] <LettuceJoans> it did nothig
[04:43] <Jaevel> dwidmann, "e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) /dev/sda1: clean, 190141/30343168 files, 6506585/60671472 blocks"
[04:43] <LettuceJoans> *nothing
[04:43] <LettuceJoans> i hit enter and nothing happened
[04:44] <stoft> LettuceJoans: nothing at all?
[04:44] <LettuceJoans> ya, absolutley nothing
[04:44] <stoft> LettuceJoans: try "sudo fdisk -l", it will ask you for your password, which is fine
[04:44] <LettuceJoans> ok, that worked
[04:45] <stoft> LettuceJoans: what did it print?
[04:45] <LettuceJoans> a bunch of stuff
[04:45] <stoft> ok, can you paste it in the pastebin?
[04:45] <LettuceJoans> a big list of all my partitions
[04:46] <LettuceJoans>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:46] <dwidmann> Jaevel: looks okay :\
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sda1   *           1       25496   204796588+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sda2           25497       60800   283579380    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sda5           25497       60800   283579348+  83  Linux
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[04:46] <Whiz2> ok... here is the URL for the pastebin of my teapop inet.d script... http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/18185/ can someone check it out to see if it shows any reason why teapop wouldn't start like it was supposed to?
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:46] <LettuceJoans>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sdb1   *           1       13999   112446936   83  Linux
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sdb2           14000       14593     4771305    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[04:46] <LettuceJoans> /dev/sdb5           14000       14593     4771273+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:46] <Jaevel> dwidmann, guess im gonna have to reinstall?
[04:47] <Whiz2> LettuceJoans: it would've been better to paste that at http://ubuntu.pastebin.org
[04:47] <dwidmann> Jaevel: well, the other most recent messages in the file seem to point to one other small possibility
[04:47] <Whiz2> err... sorry pastebin.ubuntu.org
[04:47] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[04:47] <LettuceJoans> oh, sorry about that :P
[04:47] <dwidmann> Javel, mount up again, and open up /media/sda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:47] <Whiz2> less channel flodding that way. :-p
[04:47] <dwidmann> try switching it back to the vesa or nv drivers
[04:47] <Whiz2> flooding*
[04:48] <Jaevel> dwidmann, ok... hold
[04:48] <dwidmann> jaevel (this is quite the long shot)
[04:48] <stoft> LettuceJoans: on which drive did you create your new ext3 partition?
[04:49] <dwidmann> hi Auto
[04:50] <LettuceJoans> "/dev/sda5           25497       60800   283579348+  83  Linux"
[04:50] <LettuceJoans> i tihnk
[04:50] <LettuceJoans> *think
[04:51] <LettuceJoans> what are "blocks"
[04:51] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: try doing this in Konsole: "sudo mkdir /media/sda5 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5"
[04:51] <stoft> LettuceJoans: looking at your output I see you have two drives, one with NTFS (windows XP probably), FAT32 and EXT3. the other with only FAT32 and EXT3. correct?
[04:52] <LettuceJoans> yes
[04:52] <stoft> dwidmann: what will happen if that drive is already mounted as / ?
[04:52] <LettuceJoans> the one I want to mount is the ext3 partition on the first HD
[04:52] <dwidmann> stoft: You'd probably get an error message, nothing catastrophic"
[04:52] <baudthief> I'm trying to change the owner of a folder to 'baudthief', but doing an 'ls -l' after the command is still showing the owner as root, I used this command:
[04:52] <baudthief> sudo chown -R -v baudthief 'Virtual Machines'
[04:52] <baudthief> any ideas?
[04:52] <Jaevel> dwidmann, i see the file... want me to pastebin it?
[04:53] <stoft> ok, in that case run the command that dwidmann posted: "sudo mkdir /media/sda5 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5"
[04:53] <dwidmann> Jaevel: no need, just scroll down to the line that says driver and change it to "nv" or "vesa"
[04:53] <stoft> dwidmann: ok, thnx
[04:54] <LettuceJoans> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda5': File exists
[04:54] <Jaevel> dwidmann, whats the gnome text editor?? i need to type into konsole?
[04:54] <dwidmann> Jaevel: gedit
[04:54] <stoft> LettuceJoans: ok, try only the second part of the command: "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5"
[04:54] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: that's okay, I just through that in just-in-case it didn't
[04:55] <dwidmann> *threw
[04:55] <Whiz2> can no one help me with myproblem?
[04:55] <dwidmann> I'll take a look at it Whiz2
[04:55] <LettuceJoans> ok, I said "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /media/sda5" pressed enter and it dodn't give me any message
[04:55] <LettuceJoans> is that good?
[04:56] <Whiz2> dwidmann: ty
[04:56] <dwidmann> LettuceJoans: should be, try going to /media/sda5 in konqueror and see if anything is there
[04:57] <stoft> dwidmann: since it's a new partition he'll probably need to change ownership... right?
[04:57] <LettuceJoans> this disk is now mounted, there's a folder in it called "lost + found"
[04:57] <Jaevel> dwidmann, now reboot?
[04:58] <stoft> LettuceJoans: sounds correct, try creating a small text file
[04:58] <LettuceJoans> it won't let me save anything to it ;(
[04:58] <dwidmann> Whiz2: so what exactly does it do when you run sudo /etc/init.d/teapop start
[04:58] <dwidmann> Jaevel: yep, and hope for the best
[04:59] <dwidmann> stoft: wouldn't doubt it
[04:59] <Jaevel> dwidmann, ok.. gonna try... thanks sooo much for the help!!!!!!!
[04:59] <Whiz2> dwidmann: uhhh i dunno i haven't used that yet. i usually just type "sudo teapop -s"
[04:59] <Whiz2> dwidmann: but i rebooted & it didn't start like ti was supposed to
[05:00] <leo> beryl problems
[05:00] <dwidmann> Whiz2: mmhmm
[05:00] <Whiz2> dwidmann: could it be that it's using the wrong command?
[05:00] <dwidmann> Whiz2: you can see what it said about the failure by looking in /var/log/messages probably
[05:01] <Whiz2> dwidmann: ok lemme look
[05:01] <LettuceJoans> the mounting is done, but I can't save anything to it
[05:01] <dwidmann> wait, that might be the wrong file
[05:01] <stoft> LettuceJoans: in Konsole do "sudo chown -R <yourusername>: /media/sda5" replacing <yourusername> with your username
[05:02] <stoft> LettuceJoans: note the colon and spaces
[05:02] <LettuceJoans> YEEEEEESSSS!!!!
[05:02] <dwidmann> stoft, let me introduce you to your new friend, $USER
[05:02] <LettuceJoans> it worked! :)
[05:03] <LettuceJoans> thank you for all your time
[05:03] <stoft> dwidmann: doh, hadn't thought about that
[05:03] <stoft> LettuceJoans: glad it worked, have fun
[05:03] <LettuceJoans> btw, do you know where I can get ext3 drivers for windows?
[05:04] <stoft> LettuceJoans: try http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:05] <LettuceJoans> thank you, you've all been very helpful
[05:05] <dwidmann> no problem
[05:05] <stoft> LettuceJoans: read the documentation. the above driver does not respect ownership etc under windows (afaik no driver does) so theoretically you can hose your linux by tampering with system files from windows.
[05:06] <stoft> linux' system files that is.
[05:06] <LettuceJoans> really?
[05:06] <LettuceJoans> crap. someone told me that the ext3 drivers for windows would work fine with no problem
[05:07] <Whiz2> dwidmann: you may be right about it being the wrong file, cuz that is a hardware init log lol
[05:07] <stoft> LettuceJoans: they work fine, I've had no problem with them. just don't tamper with files that aren't under /home or /media/sda5 from under windows, unless you know what you're doing.
[05:07] <jjj> which is better koffice or openoffice? criterias are on ms word import/export capabilities, printing, and table handling...
[05:08] <LettuceJoans> but the Parttion that I just mounted is only for files, no os. I have lots of big files that I liek to dump into a mega partition and I want to share it between windows and linux
[05:08] <LettuceJoans> so will I be ok?
[05:09] <dwidmann> Whiz2, yup, and I can't remember what the file I was thinking of was, but it's not that.
[05:09] <stoft> LettuceJoans: yep, shouldn't be a problem
[05:09] <jjj> which is better koffice or openoffice? criterias are on ms word import/export capabilities, printing, and table handling...
[05:09] <LettuceJoans> Yay!
[05:09] <LettuceJoans> thank you!
[05:09] <stoft> jjj: I would go with openoffice but I haven't tried the latest Koffice so I guess you get to try both and come back and tell us what you think. :)
[05:10] <dwidmann> jjj: openoffice is probably better about importing  and exporting. They can both print fine, table handling should work fine in both.
[05:10] <Whiz2> dwidmann: but it would still be in the same directory right?
[05:10] <jjj> i think koffice has fewer file support...
[05:10] <dwidmann> Whiz2: I would think so
[05:10] <Whiz2> dwidmann: ok i'll check to see if I can't figure it out...
[05:10] <jjj> and i doubt if koffice has wordart feature...openoffice has it as fontwork...
[05:10] <LettuceJoans> jjj:openoffice is the only way to go, it has tons of file support
[05:11] <LettuceJoans> jjj:personally i think emulating microsoft word with something like crossover is the best, but openoffice is free
[05:11] <dwidmann> jjj: Koffice has better, you can add and directly work on a krita document inside of kword :D
[05:12] <Whiz2> dwidmann: only thing i can think of would be faillog, but that file is empty
[05:12] <jjj> so why does kde still creating kde versions of everything? is it a protocol to make such? although it is proven that kde already offers everything out-of-the-box, still why not just adopt openoffice as their kde office suite...
[05:13] <LettuceJoans> JJJ: kde is taking over the world with Ks
[05:13] <dwidmann> jjj: because openoffice is old, kind of slow, and under a different software license?
[05:13] <LettuceJoans> k-mart
[05:13] <jjj> yah...i think openoffice is not under gpl???
[05:13] <jjj> am i ryt?
[05:14] <dwidmann> I think it's under ODL
[05:14] <dwidmann> or something like that
[05:14] <thetarepublic> Dear #kubuntu, What line should I add to /etc/fstab so I can mount hda1/ide0?
[05:14] <jjj> and kde under gpl, ryt?
[05:15] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: sudo mount -t <TYPE> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[05:15] <dwidmann> jjj: yes, gpl
[05:15] <jjj> so if their licenses are not compatible, they cant be integrated? anyways, by virtue of opensource, there is an open minded approach in choosing our programs to use
[05:15] <thetarepublic> dwidmann: What goes in type? Would it be ntfs?
[05:15] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: could be
[05:16] <dwidmann> is that the type that it is?
[05:16] <thetarepublic> dwidmann: And what's the option that makes it mount at boot :P
[05:16] <thetarepublic> Yes
[05:16] <thetarepublic> I just want to read from it though
[05:16] <dwidmann> Hmm, it might take a little more work than that then, I can't remember if feisty can do ntfs reading out of the box
[05:17] <thetarepublic> Edgy could
[05:17] <thetarepublic> But not sure about feisty
[05:17] <jjj> in hoary, ubuntu can read ntfs but i doubt if it can write on it...
[05:17] <jjj> just mount it correctly...
[05:17] <GWillakers> fiesty can read ntfs
[05:17] <dwidmann> jjj: yes, but could it do it OOTB?
[05:17] <WillLuongo> dwidman: I believe fiesty can read and write ntfs nativelt
[05:17] <thetarepublic> Yeah
[05:17] <thetarepublic> I've done it before
[05:17] <WillLuongo> natively even
[05:17] <GWillakers> not write
[05:17] <thetarepublic> But I had to reinstall Kubuntu >.>; So now it's not mounted, or even detected
[05:18] <GWillakers> install ntfs-3g to r/w
[05:18] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: well, try filling in the ntfs part and see if it works
[05:18] <jjj> ah no no no...it cant do it out of the box...i mean on hoary...
[05:18] <jjj> maybe because of license conflicts again...
[05:18] <thetarepublic> It says mount point does not exist
[05:18] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: make it then, " sudo mkdir /media/hda1"
[05:19] <thetarepublic> yeah
[05:19] <thetarepublic> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[05:19] <stoft> and then add it to your fstab to mount at boot
[05:19] <thetarepublic>        missing codepage or other error
[05:19] <thetarepublic>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:19] <thetarepublic>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:19] <dwidmann> hmm, guess it doesn't like that then
[05:19] <dwidmann> !NTFS
[05:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:20] <thetarepublic> Isn't ntfs-3g stable now?
[05:20] <crimsun> FSOV stable, yes.
[05:20] <crimsun> I've had no problems with it on i386 machines.
[05:20] <stoft> afk - write a line with my nick in it if you guys need to get ahold of me
[05:20] <thetarepublic> stoft: What do I put in /etc/fstab?
[05:20] <ryanakca> I just installed ubuntu-desktop. Is there a way to keep gnome config apps out of kmenu?
[05:21] <thetarepublic> Do you have a problem with GNOME apps? :P
[05:21] <sonoftheclayr> ryanakca: there is a useful litte app somewhere on kde-apps.org that puts a gnome sub-menu into the kmenu
[05:21] <ryanakca> thetarepublic: no, but, I don't really feel like configuring gnome in KDE
[05:21] <red22> my network connectivity comes and goes several times per hour for no apparent reason.. any ideas why or how to fix this pls?
[05:21] <stoft> thetarepublic: I have "/dev/hda1  /media/hda1  ntfs  defaults 0 0"
[05:21] <ryanakca> sonoftheclayr: kk, thanks
[05:21] <thetarepublic> stoft: Thank's :D
[05:21] <thetarepublic> -'
[05:22] <stoft> it should work for basic mounting. you might want to add the user option to be able to mount it as a user. check the fstab man page
[05:22] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: you can do "sudo -s" then "tail -1 /etc/mtab > /etc/fstab" to copy the line to the fstab after it has successfully mounted
[05:22] <jjj> has anyone here has an experience installing and using Avira antivirus in kubuntu/ubuntu?
[05:22] <jjj> has anyone here has an experience installing and using Avira antivirus in kubuntu/ubuntu?
[05:22] <dac_> yetichick?
[05:22] <stoft> dwidmann: shouldn't it be double ">>"?
[05:22] <sonoftheclayr> ryanakca: it's called K Menu Gnome, you want the debian package
[05:23] <dwidmann> oops, yes, it should
[05:23] <ryanakca> sonoftheclayr: kk, thanks
[05:23] <sonoftheclayr> ryanakca: np
[05:23] <dwidmann> stoft: thanks for catching that
[05:23] <stoft> thetarepublic: important, make it a double tick ">>" or you won't be happy afterwards
[05:23] <dwidmann> stoft: No kidding there!
[05:24] <stoft> dwidmann: np :)
[05:24] <dac_> jjj, why do you need antivirus?
[05:24] <stoft> thetarepublic: you might want to make a backup of your fstab while you're at it, in case something goes wrong ;)
[05:25] <thetarepublic> stoft: one second
[05:25] <thetarepublic> [mntent] : line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[05:25] <thetarepublic> mount: can't find hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:26] <jjj> because around me is a world of Winxp and all of their flash disk, if ever I would borrow them and access it to linux, I want to clean them...haha, heroic deed...
[05:26] <thetarepublic> It's hda2, sorry
[05:27] <dac_> ok,my windows days are gone.
[05:27] <thetarepublic> :X
[05:27] <thetarepublic> It isn't recognizing the drive
[05:27] <stoft> thetarepublic: makes no real difference, just redo what you did before but with hda2
[05:27] <thetarepublic> stoft: :O
[05:28] <jjj> and theoretically, if I can install kubuntu on a flashdrive with an antivirus on it, and provided we can already have a read/write support for ntfs, then we can already have a rescue flashdrive for winxp infected PC...
[05:28] <Assimilator> hello
[05:28] <thetarepublic> stoft: It mounted, but it says I do not have permissions
[05:28] <Assimilator> can someone check my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18189/  <---- splsh screen is all screwed up and the settings in there seem all over the place
[05:28] <stoft> thetarepublic: that's because you mounted as superuser
[05:28] <thetarepublic> stoft: it said only root could mount
[05:29] <jjj> and theoretically, if I can install kubuntu on a flashdrive with an antivirus on it, and provided we can already have a read/write support for ntfs, then we can already have a rescue flashdrive for winxp infected PC...
[05:29] <stoft> thetarepublic: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[05:29] <thetarepublic> stoft: That's what I did, though
[05:30] <stoft> thetarepublic: can you paste the command and output in a pastebin?
[05:30] <thetarepublic> >.>;
[05:30] <thetarepublic> thetarepublic@Kikkomaso:/media$ sudo mount -t  ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda1
[05:30] <thetarepublic> thetarepublic@Kikkomaso:/media$ sudo mount -t  ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda1
[05:30] <thetarepublic> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy
[05:30] <thetarepublic> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is already mounted on /media/hda1
[05:30] <thetarepublic> thetarepublic@Kikkomaso:/media$
[05:31] <thetarepublic> Sorry, it's only five lines :P
[05:31] <jjj> when will openoffice support grammar checking?
[05:31] <stoft> jjj: there's already a tool that will clean any XP from virus, fdisk
[05:31] <stoft> ;)
[05:31] <thetarepublic> :O
[05:31] <thetarepublic> Heh, destructive partitioning
[05:32] <dwidmann> thetarepublic: I like to think of it as constructive partitioning :P
[05:32] <jjj> well, i still do believe that formatting a harddrive is NOT a solution to a malware infected PC...
[05:32] <stoft> thetarepublic: you've already mounted /dev/hda2 as /media/hda1, you have to umount /media/hda1 and then remount it as /media/hda2
[05:33] <stoft> jjj: true, the malware could be MBR resident :-D
[05:33] <jjj> avira can clean MBRs...
[05:33] <thetarepublic> stoft: It is mounted as hda2 now, but still, permissions
[05:34] <Assimilator> you could try to boot XP Cd and run fixmbr
[05:34] <jjj> the openoffice.org channel is not as lively as the kubuntu channel...
[05:35] <stoft> thetarepublic: add it to your fstab and add the user option (I think "defaults" include "nouser" so you'll probably have to change that)
[05:35] <thetarepublic> stoft: Ok, I'll do that
[05:35] <stoft> then umount it as superuser and try mounting as your normal user
[05:35] <jjj> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[05:35] <jjj> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[05:35] <jjj> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[05:36] <thetarepublic> What
[05:36] <thetarepublic> What
[05:36] <thetarepublic> What
[05:36] <stoft> afk - put my nick in a line to get my attention
[05:36] <jjj> this site has infos on mounting ntfs drives...
[05:36] <thetarepublic> stoft: :O it worked
[05:36] <stoft> great! :)
[05:36] <thetarepublic> stoft: Still, permissions, even though I mounted it as user
[05:36] <stoft> what are the permissions?
[05:36] <thetarepublic> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 auto rw,user,auto 0 0
[05:36] <thetarepublic> I don't have enough of them
[05:37] <stoft> ls -l /media/hda2?
[05:37] <thetarepublic> Permissions
[05:37] <thetarepublic> sudo it?
[05:37] <stoft> thetarepublic: run "ls -l /media/hda2"
[05:38] <thetarepublic> stoft: As regular, it says Permission denied, But as sudo, it lists the folders on the drive
[05:38] <thetarepublic> stoft: :P as root, whatever, same difference
[05:38] <stoft> ok, what are the user and group and the rwx----?
[05:38] <thetarepublic> stoft: ;A; How do I check that >.>;
[05:39] <thetarepublic> stoft: The User is the user I made during installation
[05:39] <stoft> you should have an output like so: "-r-------- 1 root root         0 2004-09-09 10:00 AUTOEXEC.BAT"
[05:40] <stoft> the "root root" is the user and group owner
[05:40] <thetarepublic> -r-------- 1 root root         0 2003-10-11 04:16 AUTOEXEC.BAT
[05:40] <thetarepublic> Yup
[05:40] <stoft> I'm guessing all the files belong to root?
[05:41] <jjj> is there a deb precompiled binaries for ntfs-3g?
[05:41] <thetarepublic> stoft: Yes
[05:41] <majnoon> ok i'm TRYING upgrade to feisty
[05:41] <jjj> i'm more at peace in using deb files than compiling it on my pc...
[05:41] <Whiz2> jjj: apt-get ntfs-3g
[05:42] <stoft> thetarepublic: ok, not sure how to proceed since I've never done it myself, I suggest reading the docs on the latest ntfs drivers
[05:42] <stoft> !ntfs | thetarepublic
[05:42] <ubotu> thetarepublic: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:42] <thetarepublic> ;A:
[05:42] <thetarepublic> Ok
[05:42] <thetarepublic> I'll do that :P
[05:42] <stoft> !ntfs-3g | thetarepublic
[05:42] <ubotu> thetarepublic: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:42] <thetarepublic> :D
[05:42] <thetarepublic> Grazie
[05:42] <stoft> thetarepublic: sorry, can't help you more than that
[05:43] <thetarepublic> stoft: No, thanks. You've helped quite a bit
[05:43] <stoft> np
[05:43] <stoft> majnoon: trying?
[05:44] <majnoon> me see if it works :)
[05:45] <stoft> ah ok, go' luck
[05:45] <stoft> afk - television
[05:45] <majnoon> had to change edgy to feisty in apt.sources then go through adept (i think right program) then it going through upgrade wizard
[05:47] <jdunn> Hello.  Is anyone having problems witht he smb client on Feisty?
[05:49] <thetarepublic> Say, isn't NTFS writing Stable in Feisty?
[05:55] <lettuce> omg, sorrry but now my partition isn't mounted again
[05:55] <dennister> ok pps...my adept/apt-get and synapic are all blocked again...how to release them to work?
[05:55] <lettuce> what was that command?
[05:56] <thetarepublic> What drive is it?
[05:56] <WillLuongo> !fix adept
[05:56] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:56] <thetarepublic> Lettuce: Is it the slave or the master?
[05:56] <WillLuongo> dennister: does that help?
[05:56] <lettuce> not, sure. But I was jast talking to someone who solved the problem
[05:57] <dennister> nope, sorry...still get: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:58] <lettuce> nvm, the commans is still in klipper :)
[05:58] <dennister> i'm trying to remove/purge a faulty installation of a program that's blocking everything else
[05:58] <WillLuongo> dennister: do you have any broken packages (debs you installed manually maybe?)
[05:58] <dennister> yes, and now I can't remove them
[05:58] <dennister> it's for my usbscanner
[05:58] <WillLuongo> dennister: can you pasterbin the entire error output of your apt-get
[05:58] <WillLuongo> pastebin even
[05:58] <WillLuongo> :)
[05:59] <dennister> k
[05:59] <dennister> !pastebin
[05:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <holycow> hey guys
[06:00] <holycow> okay so i have a dual monitor setup and kde panels only on a single monitore
[06:00] <holycow> i don't want windows to co ver the panels BUT i do want windows to use the full w x h of the other moni on which the panels aren't placed
[06:00] <holycow> is this possible, if so how?
[06:00] <LinkCanabico> holycow the answer is in the control panel
[06:01] <holycow> ah!
[06:01] <LinkCanabico> sorry control center
[06:01] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18195/
[06:01] <LinkCanabico> all day windows
[06:01] <holycow> shame on you
[06:01] <LinkCanabico> it pay the bills
[06:02] <thetarepublic> Meh
[06:02] <dennister> WillLuongo: ^^there it is
[06:02] <WillLuongo> dennister: got it
[06:02] <thetarepublic> Windows is great for some things, not so good for others
[06:02] <WillLuongo> dennister: mkdir each of those directories and it will work
[06:02] <WillLuongo> dennister: ie: mkdir
[06:02] <WillLuongo> /usr/local/Brother/sane/GrayCmData/ALL
[06:02] <dennister> k, will do
[06:02] <pacman> is anyone familiar with the Sansa MP3 players?
[06:03] <tin> i bought my mother one
[06:03] <pacman> do you know where I can download the CD that came with it?  I'm going to try and run it with WINE
[06:03] <WillLuongo> pacman: yes, somewhat
[06:04] <WillLuongo> pacman: you can download the driver from the company website, but wine doesn't do drivers... you should be able to mount it as an USB storage device.
[06:05] <pacman> I did that and it worked for a couple of weeks, but then it quit allowing me to delete files/add files from the player
[06:05] <LinkCanabico> the CD only contains additional flyer inserts & the user guide
[06:05] <pacman> it was like the permissions were messed up, but they were right
[06:06] <majnoon> my download slowing down BIGTIME
[06:06] <WillLuongo> pacman: did you try superuser?
[06:07] <pacman> how do I log in as su on KDE?
[06:07] <LinkCanabico> two options
[06:07] <WillLuongo> pacman just use sudo, or for gui stuff kdesu
[06:07] <WillLuongo> or you can start a terminal as root from the file menu if you want
[06:07] <Whiz2> dwidmann: in answer to your earlier question about "/etc/init.d/teapop start" I tried that, and it only dropped me back out to the command line without starting the application
[06:07] <LinkCanabico> you can get out an log in as root
[06:07] <WillLuongo> session menu, sorry
[06:08] <LinkCanabico> so Konqueror will also be root's
[06:08] <WillLuongo> you could Alt F2, kdesu konqueror
[06:08] <lettuce> I got a question. Are there any virisus or bugs I have to look out for when using linux, or am a totally safe?
[06:08] <WillLuongo> that way you don't have to log out..
[06:09] <WillLuongo> dennister: any luck?
[06:09] <LinkCanabico>  lettuce you are never totaly safe but it is as safe as it gets
[06:09] <dwidmann> Whiz2: no output? Drat
[06:09] <B_DILLZZ> does anyone have experience with kmymoney
[06:10] <B_DILLZZ> and online OFX updating with banks
[06:10] <holycow> okay does anyone know specifically where i can tell the panels to not allow window overlap but allow apps full x.y space on my second moni where there are no windows?
[06:10] <lettuce> ya, I know that it's possible, but I am really even safer than an OSX user with linux right?
[06:11] <holycow> depends on how you configure your machine
[06:11] <B_DILLZZ> lettuce no worries
[06:11] <lettuce> ok :)
[06:11] <dennister> WillLuongo: bit...still struggling
[06:11] <WillLuongo> dennister: did you get that bad package out?
[06:12] <LinkCanabico> holycow i dont remenber how but it is posible il check at home in hear with jus a laptop
[06:12] <holycow> coolness
[06:13] <holycow> appreciate that
[06:13] <pacman> hey Will, can you set it up so we're in our own room?
[06:13] <B_DILLZZ> has anyone recommend any financial software with direct conect to online banking?
[06:13] <holycow> gonna try #kde just in case
[06:13] <dennister> supposedly...not getting the status error(1) anymore
[06:14] <WillLuongo> pacman: I IMed you
[06:14] <WillLuongo> dennister: What is it doing now?
[06:14] <pacman> I guess you can't hear me, because I'm "unregistered"
[06:14] <LinkCanabico> holycow i have the spanish version kde here maby if i try to translate it helps
[06:14] <pacman_> will: come to channel #pacman
[06:15] <holycow> LinkCanabico, ehe :) si! i wish i spoke spanish
[06:15] <Whiz2> dwidmann: none at all
[06:15] <dennister> tried purging a couple of things...not sure if "ALL" in /usr/local/Brother/sane/GrayCmData/ and Al are supposed to be files or directories
[06:15] <WillLuongo> dennister: they were supposed to be directories
[06:15] <michael> shalom
[06:15] <Whiz2> dwidmann: I checked to see that the links were placed correctly for starting up, and they are.
[06:15] <michael> just installed feisty
[06:16] <michael> wow what an upgrade from dapper
[06:16] <michael> I like
[06:16] <dennister> if they're files, installing brscan2 should create them...ok, well when i try to "sudo mkdir /usr/local/Brother/sane/GramCmData/ALL" i get another error message that says mkdir can't creat the directory
[06:16] <LinkCanabico> its control center; desctop; window behaviur;
[06:16] <LinkCanabico> sory for my english
[06:17] <holycow> de nada
[06:17] <WillLuongo> hmmm
[06:17] <WillLuongo> dennister: did it let you mkdir any of the others?
[06:18] <dennister> yes, and i found out what i did wrong with the ALL now
[06:18] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, can anyone help me through compiling a code?
[06:19] <dennister> ok, brscan2 is supposedly installed properly now...
[06:20] <WillLuongo> K-Ryan: I might be able to, depends on what you are trying to do
[06:20] <dennister> installing my mfc is much harder with feisty than with dapper or edgy
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Compile freeciv
[06:20] <K-Ryan> unless there is a package for it, let me check...
[06:20] <WillLuongo> K-Ryan there is a package
[06:20] <K-Ryan> oh, yippie
[06:20] <levon> okay this is serious question if i have xp ntfs installed on a computer how would i install kubuntu i tried but failed horribly so now im here to ask. or if i have kubuntu on the hard drive already and i want to put xp pro on it would that way be better. okay heres my options load xp pro first then kubuntu or kubuntu first then xp pro
[06:21] <WillLuongo> levon: pro first, then kubuntu
[06:21] <K-Ryan> levon: you just need to setup partitions for each
[06:21] <WillLuongo> levon XP will wipe the mbr and won't let you get to kubuntu.
[06:21] <K-Ryan> as long as you do that you will have the least amount of problems
[06:21] <Whiz2> dwidmann: it only seems to start when i type "sudo teapop -s"
[06:21] <levon> yep that happened already
[06:21] <levon> will luongo
[06:22] <K-Ryan> Oh, didn't know about that...
[06:22] <holycow> LinkCanabico, muchas gracias!
[06:22] <holycow> that worked
[06:22] <holycow> :)
[06:22] <WillLuongo> levon: you don't have to partition first, Kubuntu can automatically repartition free space to install itself.
[06:22] <LinkCanabico> no problem
[06:22] <dennister> this command still can't find any scanner: sane-find-scanner | grep usb
[06:22] <K-Ryan> it will split partitions instead of erasing?
[06:22] <levon> okay so now heres the next question i already got xp pro on and i tried to put kubuntu using the installation but it said that it couldnt re partition it to the size i wanted
[06:22] <K-Ryan> well, formatting the partition
[06:22] <dennister> "command not found"
[06:23] <K-Ryan> i had trouble with ntfs as well, it needed to be
[06:23] <levon> well it couldnt resize it at all
[06:23] <K-Ryan> what was it, not defragged
[06:23] <K-Ryan> checked for errors, i cant remember the command
[06:23] <levon> is it because of the ntfs
[06:23] <dennister> has anyone else here installed a scanner with feisty yet?
[06:23] <LinkCanabico> some scaners are only detected as root try sudo xsane
[06:23] <K-Ryan> No, I repartitioned my ntfs
[06:23] <K-Ryan> So it's not that
[06:23] <WillLuongo> levon: no, it should work fine as far as partitioning go
[06:23] <WillLuongo> es
[06:23] <levon> hmmm
[06:24] <dwidmann> Whiz2: well, I suppose if you want to try something, try moving /etc/init.d/teapop to teapop.bak, and then alter teapop to say nothing but the teapop -s
[06:24] <WillLuongo> dennister: I have, I used Kooka with great results
[06:24] <levon> this really sucks i wish my father in law was like me just put the thing on the whole drive
[06:24] <levon> but hes a slow learner lol
[06:24] <WillLuongo> levon: Did you try the auto partition in Kubuntu?
[06:24] <K-Ryan> Yeah Kubuntu is a big change over Windows
[06:24] <K-Ryan> But it can be customized to feel very similar
[06:24] <levon> naw i havent tried that
[06:24] <dennister> yes, but this time, with this festy, kooka is only detecting the tuner as a scanner device
[06:24] <levon> well wait yes
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Personally I like Kubuntu, but I'm a big gamer so I keep Windows
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Anyway...
[06:25] <LinkCanabico> exacly my problem with a canon scanner
[06:25] <WillLuongo> K-Ryan: I am in the same boat. I only use windows for games and for my pro-audio apps
[06:25] <levon> once you goto install it pulls up the language menu after that its says how do i want to partition i left it on the first part and just moved the size to 20 gigs
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Then you goto do it, it tries but tells you it can't. Right?
[06:26] <levon> yep
[06:26] <dennister> I actually wrote a howto for this mfc for kanotix...http://www.kanotix.org/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-22202.html and everything's working fine for edgy except the scanner part
[06:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah I had the same thing
[06:26] <levon> lol
[06:26] <levon> K Ryan how did you get yours on then
[06:26] <K-Ryan> I ended up reisntalling Windows for some reason and when I did that it fixed up the drive
[06:26] <levon> oh okay
[06:26] <K-Ryan> But that's not really what you wanna do
[06:26] <dennister> feisty is handling usb mounting and a lot of other things quite differently it seems
[06:26] <K-Ryan> It was a format
[06:26] <levon> well i have installed it like 3 times
[06:26] <levon> so dont feel to bad
[06:26] <K-Ryan> How old is the drive?
[06:26] <levon> new
[06:26] <levon> 160 gigs
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Mine too =)
[06:27] <levon> my old man is kickin lol
[06:27] <K-Ryan> 3 installations eh?
[06:27] <levon> i have 2 hard drives 80 gigs a piece
[06:27] <levon> yes 3 installs im hoping this one is the charm lol
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Over last summer, I had to reinstall it almost every other day
[06:27] <levon> omg lol
[06:27] <K-Ryan> I took me weeks to figure out my hard drive was failing
[06:27] <K-Ryan> It never happened to me before so I was clueless
[06:28] <WillLuongo> levon: are both drives empty other than the OS?
[06:28] <LinkCanabico> xp pro has a problem detecting biger drives be careful there
[06:28] <K-Ryan> But mine is also XP home
[06:28] <dennister> i've also made the /etc/udev/10-local.rules file, too, but i'm wondering if for feisty I shouldn't put an entry into 45-libsane.rules instead
[06:28] <levon> will luongo that 2 hard drive is my set up
[06:28] <levon> my father in laws is 1 hard 160 gigs
[06:28] <WillLuongo> levon: oh, got you
[06:28] <levon> lol
[06:28] <levon> will i was hoping he had two
[06:28] <levon> :)
[06:29] <levon> would have made my life a whole lot easier
[06:29] <WillLuongo> levon: is your 160 empty other than the os then? ;)
[06:29] <levon> well its totally empty now
[06:29] <levon> i reformated it because after i tried to move the size it didnt find the boot loader to xp
[06:29] <levon> :(
[06:30] <K-Ryan> Grub didnt work?
[06:30] <levon> so now this will be my fourth install
[06:30] <WillLuongo> levon: next time use the repair console from the xp disc to fixmbr
[06:30] <Whiz2> dwidmann: my problem has been solved. I had to reconfigure it to run in standalone mode instead of inetd mode
[06:30] <levon> lol that sounds like an idea
[06:31] <levon> okay so now ill do another fresh install ill leave my computer on this chat so when its done ill but comming back here:)
[06:31] <dwidmann> Whiz2: ah, that's good
[06:31] <K-Ryan> Alright, good luck!
[06:31] <levon> but *be
[06:31] <levon> thank you
[06:31] <WillLuongo> levon: but you should be able to install xp first (the normal way), then install Kubuntu and partition the drive. Make sure that you use an automatic partition guide thingy... lol
[06:31] <WillLuongo> levon: good luck!
[06:31] <dennister> wait..wait...wait...success!!! :-)
[06:32] <K-Ryan> Just leave unpartitioned space when installing xp pro
[06:32] <K-Ryan> That way you don't have to repartition, avoid the conflict completely
[06:32] <K-Ryan> Yes coolzgeek?
[06:32] <dennister> kooka and xsane are now working with the mfc's scanner, and NOT trying to scan with a tuner :)
[06:32] <WillLuongo> K-ryan: You shouldn't have to, and Kubuntu will still want to partition the remainder of the space.
[06:32] <WillLuongo> dennister: Congrats! :)
[06:33] <LinkCanabico> dennister: how did you do it
[06:33] <K-Ryan> You don't have to, but if you do, you don't have to worry about repartitioning
[06:33] <coolzgeek> Nothing
[06:33] <K-Ryan> Kubuntu can leave unpartitioned space
[06:33] <K-Ryan> You just don't do the auto
[06:33] <coolzgeek> Where do i get the codecs for amarok?
[06:33] <levon> willluongo thanks
[06:33] <K-Ryan> !extracodecs
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <dennister> well a lot of the scanner-section of the howto i wrote and posted above aren't needed by feisty
[06:33] <K-Ryan> !codecs
[06:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:33] <levon> lol i left and came back to see messages for me
[06:33] <K-Ryan> theres a package, I don't recall its name
[06:34] <chemicalvamp> whats the best mud client
[06:34] <K-Ryan> But you just need that package and you'll be alright.
[06:34] <levon> omg lol
[06:34] <dennister> but installing the software part properly means that a couple of other steps are needed that weren't needed with edgy
[06:34] <K-Ryan> What's up levon?
[06:34] <levon> k ryan success lol im already partitioning it
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Success with what?
[06:35] <WillLuongo> levon: congrats!
[06:35] <levon> okay how do i leave more then 8 mb of unpartioned space
[06:35] <levon> will luongo not yet
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[06:35] <WillLuongo> levon that 8mb isn't really unpartitioned, xp uses that
[06:35] <LinkCanabico> the 8mb  is necesary
[06:35] <WillLuongo> levon I don't remember exactly, but you can customize the size of the partitions.
[06:35] <K-Ryan> He said how do you leave more than that, not how do i partition it
[06:35] <WillLuongo> levon in the installer I mean
[06:35] <K-Ryan> *asked
[06:36] <levon> lol its okay
[06:36] <dennister> my howto i wrote for kanotix (modeled on Ubuntu's bobsongs and another contributor) should probably be updated for feisty
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Partitioning from Kubuntu, you just need to change the partition end spot to a lower number
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Forgive me it was a while ago I did this, but it should be close
[06:36] <LinkCanabico> levon are you in xp or kubunu
[06:36] <levon> im in nothing right now lol on my computer
[06:37] <levon> father in laws is gettting the big F formation
[06:37] <levon> brb
[06:37] <levon> i have to see whats going on with it
[06:38] <dennister> what always stumps me (and I never can seem to remember) is when packaging is broken and freezes up everything you try to do to remove the blockage
[06:38] <K-Ryan> Wow, freeciv gives you so many nations to choose from...
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Even fictional ones
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Mordor
[06:39] <WillLuongo> dennister: I had that problem so many times I almost consider myself an expert... almost... lol
[06:39] <dennister> thx for ur support/help WillLuongo
[06:39] <WillLuongo> dennister: I am glad to have an opportunity to give back... so often I come and get help!
[06:40] <dennister> yeah...that's how I feel lots of times
[06:40] <LinkCanabico> Mordor? dont tuch the ring it takes you to windows side
[06:40] <GWillakers> coolzgeek: install Automatix http://www.getautomatix.com/
[06:40] <K-Ryan> lol
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Nah, Greek for me
[06:41] <K-Ryan> I like what they start with
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Or what they started with in Civ2 anyway
[06:41] <LinkCanabico> lol
[06:42] <LinkCanabico> export ESPEAKER=localhost:16001 &
[06:42] <LinkCanabico> sorry wrong window
[06:42] <jontec_> let me double-check, after a rm, there's no way to retrieve data, correct? Is it archived anywhere. I have something I want to get back. O_o
[06:43] <LinkCanabico> no you lost it
[06:44] <jontec_> awesome.
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[06:44] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to rip a package off your box
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[06:44] <chemicalvamp> !ops
[06:44] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[06:44] <pacman_> uhm...
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[06:44] <LinkCanabico> OracleGD get a life
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[06:45] <pacman_>  any idea how I can see a webcam on YIM, using Kopete?
[06:45] <OracleGD_> Download the official Y! client
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[06:45] <kalorin_> the official Y! client sucks
[06:45] <OracleGD_> I know.
[06:45] <pacman_> exactly
[06:45] <LinkCanabico> ye
[06:45] <OracleGD_> You have to though.
[06:45] <OracleGD_> I know.
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[06:45] <sepeck> for anyone whose client supports it...   /ignore OracleGF_
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[06:46] <levon> okay maybe another minute or two
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: In here.
[06:46] <`> 
[06:46] <chemicalvamp> the op should be kicking him
[06:46] <sepeck> works wonderful for dealing with 14 year old boys
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[06:46] <levon> what the hell oracle nock that crap off
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[06:46] <`> whats up
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[06:46] <sepeck> may not be one awake and I feel free to ignore jerks in any channel
[06:46] <levon> damn spammer
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[06:46] <pacman_> so back to my original question.......
[06:46] <crimsun> Hobbsee: are you around?
[06:46] <pacman_>  any idea how I can see a webcam on YIM, using Kopete?
[06:46] <OracleGD_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaAaAaAaAa
[06:46] <levon> thats okay ignore is comming
[06:46] <OracleGD_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaAaAaAaAa
[06:46] <OracleGD_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaAaAaAaAa
[06:46] <chemicalvamp> !ops
[06:46] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[06:46] <kalorin_> I haven't tried sorry
[06:46] <OracleGD_> I'm done here.
[06:47] <levon> ban him
[06:47] <LinkCanabico> i second that
[06:47] <crimsun> OracleGD_: don't do that again.
[06:47] <sepeck> ban him
[06:47] <WillLuongo> thired?
[06:47] <sepeck> anyway
[06:47] <WillLuongo> third even
[06:47] <levon> ban him
[06:47] <levon> thats three votes
[06:47] <chemicalvamp> make it 4
[06:47] <wayne__> He's on my ignore list.
[06:47] <crimsun> just ignore the dipshit and move on.
[06:47] <dwidmann> and 5
[06:47] <levon> any more? press one if you think its good idea
[06:47] <pacman_> I'll bite...make it 6
[06:47] <sepeck> let him drain some other projects resources
[06:47] <levon> 1
[06:47] <chemicalvamp> he wil realize how imature he is, when he neds help and cant come here for it
[06:48] <pacman_> go to #ilovebillgates
[06:48] <pacman_> or that
[06:48] <LinkCanabico> ok lets move on
[06:48] <pacman_>  any idea how I can see a webcam on YIM, using Kopete?
[06:48] <pacman_> heh
[06:48] <dwidmann> ah, much better
[06:48] <chemicalvamp> yeah lets
[06:48] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to brutaly rip out a package?
[06:48] <LinkCanabico> pacman_ sory no idea
[06:48] <kalorin_> nigthy
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> pacman_: you cant Yahoo uses a windows only video codec
[06:49] <chemicalvamp> rip out and stomp on*
[06:49] <CU> hi - boot progress indicator not showing on laptop- needed to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - add visafb & vga=773 ---- is this a known issue??
[06:49] <pacman_> not even with WINE?
[06:49] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: dpkg --purge?
[06:49] <WillLuongo> pacman: You could try wine.
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> pacman_: you may get it working in wine but you will have to install a pile of dll that are not part of the client
[06:49] <lettuce> ok, I updated to fiesty fawn and now my trash can is missing
[06:49] <pacman_> ah
[06:50] <chemicalvamp> sudo dpkg --purge k3d?
[06:50] <levon> well thats nice okay now xp is installed now im ready for the next part of the dual boot process 1 i need to place in my handy dandy kubuntu cd then ill goto install then i select english then whats next?? auto partition i want it to only take 30 gigs i change my mind while taking a poop poo lol
[06:50] <lettuce> where did it go?
[06:50] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: sure, why not
[06:50] <jontec_> okay, it's alright, everyone! as it turns out, I have a published copy that I could use for backup and one on windows. That was almost bad, still.
[06:50] <WillLuongo> lettuce right click the panel add applett then add trashcan
[06:50] <dennister> now i need some extensions and add-ons to mozilla...any suggestions people?
[06:50] <levon> well lets all hold our thought brb ill place in the cd and get there haha brb
[06:51] <Linux_Galore> pacman_: easier just to use vmware or qemu install xp and then install the yahoo client
[06:51] <WillLuongo> dennister: fireftp and chatzilla are two I use often and really like
[06:51] <chemicalvamp> dwidmann didnt work
[06:51] <WillLuongo> but that is because windows sucks for those. I haven't had to install either one on my linux box. :D
[06:51] <dennister> for instance...i hate having my surfing monitored...i'm a privacy nut, but the last time I used proxy services a search would take forever...and send me to Eurpoean sites, when I wanted local Canadian ones
[06:51] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: how so? dpkg --purge shouldn't have any trouble removing a package ...
[06:52] <pacman_> no thanks, Bill Gates gets nothing on this computer
[06:52] <dwidmann> unless it's broken
[06:52] <chemicalvamp> yes
[06:52] <dwidmann> In which case you should try something like apt-get -f install
[06:52] <chemicalvamp> want the paste?
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> pacman_: about 2% of people have a yahoo account anyway lol
[06:52] <dennister> fireftp didn't worok too well for me
[06:52] <chemicalvamp> i get the same error if i do that
[06:52] <pacman_> heh
[06:52] <WillLuongo> chemicalvamp yes please
[06:52] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: sure, why not, lets see the past3e
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> pacman_: pidgin (used be called gaim) work on yahoo chat
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> works*
[06:53] <chemicalvamp> WillLuongo dwidmann here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18199/
[06:53] <WillLuongo> dennister: it isn't as good as FTPGrabber, for sure
[06:53] <WillLuongo> pacman: the package is still called GAIm though
[06:53] <dennister> a FAST proxy server would be great, however
[06:53] <WillLuongo> I use it, it doesn't support video...
[06:53] <WillLuongo> I'm on it now as a matter of fact. The IRC is nice. :)
[06:54] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: looks like an error in the remove script
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> gizmo-project are talking about releasing a client that does video on OSX/Linux later this year
[06:54] <dennister> i mean, with the google searc on konq and firefox, while they are convenient sometimes, I usually have to go to firefox's own site to get the canadian results
[06:54] <LinkCanabico> yum update gaim
[06:55] <chemicalvamp> dwidmann how can i fix it?
[06:55] <michael> !nvidia drivers
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <chemicalvamp> dwidmann the install may be corrupted also, i had semi-frequent crashes while downloading
[06:55] <dennister> !nvidia
[06:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <WillLuongo> pacman_ you can apt-get install gaim
[06:55] <michael> ahh thanks
[06:55] <WillLuongo> or use adept
[06:55] <CU> hi - boot progress indicator not showing on laptop- needed to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - add visafb & vga=773 ---- is this a known issue??
[06:55] <dennister> np michael :)
[06:56] <WillLuongo> pacman_ sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:56] <WillLuongo> sorry
[06:56] <chemicalvamp> CU if its known, you could find out by googling it
[06:57] <CU> chemicalvamp: er, is this findable easily using any ubuntu website tools?
[06:57] <majnoon> ok it says 20 more minutes
[06:57] <chemicalvamp> dwidmann ide like to know what to do, cuz at this point i cant install ANYTHING i keep getting the error message, and stuff isnt being configured
[06:57] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: I don't know what you should do, dpkg doesn't have an option for skipping the post-installation script
[06:57] <michael> is the incredible amounts of static in the sound normal after Fffeisty install?
[06:57] <michael> I  JUST installed minutes ago
[06:57] <WillLuongo> dwidmann: do you get the same error messages with apt-get?
[06:57] <chemicalvamp> CU search the error message, and you will find forums
[06:57] <dwidmann> WillLuongo: it's chemicalvamp, not me
[06:57] <WillLuongo> oops
[06:57] <WillLuongo> sorry
[06:58] <CU> chemicalvamp: There's no error message - it's a failure to appear during boot
[06:58] <WillLuongo> chemicalvap: do you get the same error messages with apt-get?
[06:58] <coolzgeek> i can't make glibc
[06:58] <chemicalvamp> yes i did
[06:58] <chemicalvamp> when trying to install new stuff, or fix currently installed stuff
[06:58] <dennister> so does anyone know of a proxy method for surfing that doesn't slow firefox down to a crawl?
[06:59] <coolzgeek> How do you make glibc?
[06:59] <WillLuongo> coolzgeek: I think there is a package, so you shouldn't have to make it.
[06:59] <levon> alright im good
[07:00] <dennister> coolzgeek: yes, and if you 'make' something you're compiling a package...not for newbies
[07:00] <levon> got to the guided size thats the one im going to use for resizing right
[07:00] <dennister> programmers compile
[07:00] <pacman_> didn't even see the cam invite on gaim
[07:00] <coolzgeek> where do i download the deb?
[07:00] <LinkCanabico> levon: yes
[07:00] <coolzgeek> i don't want the rpm
[07:00] <human> [Hi.]  I've been trying to setup a printer (local) but I can't. It's a HP Deskjet 610CL. I've used it before with ubuntu (edgy) and I've had no problems, but after following similar steps I got nowhere with kubuntu (feisty). I've added the printer through the wizard (system settings > printers) with different configurations and also manually with different configurations and nothing seems to work. I do a print test and it gets
[07:00] <human> stuck in "processing" (and that means no printing). Any ideas/suggestions?
[07:00] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: try using aptitude and see if the results are any different
[07:01] <coolzgeek> chemicalvamp try apt-get moo
[07:01] <coolzgeek> haha
[07:01] <dwidmann> also try using --reinstall instead of remove, and see if it makes any difference chemicalvamp
[07:01] <chemicalvamp> there is a -force thing for dpkg
[07:01] <WillLuongo> pacman_ There is no video support for yahoo in gaim, sorry
[07:01] <levon> okay now another question when i move it to 20 gigs thats all it will use right i dont want it to eat up any more then 20 gigs
[07:01] <coolzgeek> Whats chemicalvamp's problem?
[07:01] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: yes, but I doubt it
[07:01] <pacman_> dpj
[07:01] <pacman_> doh
[07:01] <dwidmann> *will do much good
[07:01] <WillLuongo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18199/
[07:01] <dwidmann> try it if the other things don't work
[07:01] <WillLuongo> coolzgeek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18199/
[07:01] <WillLuongo> sorryu
[07:02] <dennister> chemicalvamp: --force-architecture is only for trying to install a package made for another architecture than the one you have
[07:02] <LinkCanabico> levon: yes
[07:02] <chemicalvamp> --force-...                Override problems (see --force-help)
[07:02] <dennister> like w32codecs on an amd64 architecture
[07:02] <soulrider_> dennister: not only programmers compile
[07:02] <LinkCanabico> levon: wait!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:02] <levon> k
[07:02] <levon> im here still lol
[07:02] <soulrider_> dennister: you can be a newbie and compile stuff
[07:03] <LinkCanabico> how is the disk partitioned right now
[07:03] <dennister> soulrider_: true, but i hate compiling with a passion...i know i tried myself as a newbie
[07:03] <levon> xp professional
[07:03] <coolzgeek> was it an rpm?
[07:03] <levon> is taking the whole hard drive
[07:03] <LinkCanabico> ouch
[07:03] <levon> aww man
[07:03] <soulrider_> dennister: its not that fun, but oh well
[07:03] <coolzgeek> chemicalvamp was it an rpm?
[07:03] <LinkCanabico> sory to inform you
[07:03] <levon> what do i have to do?
[07:03] <coolzgeek> did you download it?
[07:03] <WillLuongo> levon: make sure to use the selection that guides you through using the remainder.
[07:03] <coolzgeek> rpm?
[07:03] <soulrider_> dennister: in other distros like Arch, someone can make a script that you can run and it will download and compile the package, and it WILL work for you
[07:03] <dennister> i don't think i was ever successful with compiling...and yet i did mythtv with an ivtv driver card set up in 1st 6 months...but only with edgy
[07:04] <LinkCanabico> you will need to start again sory
[07:04] <WillLuongo> LinkCanabico: Why do you say that?
[07:04] <levon> willluongo im using whole hard drive
[07:04] <dennister> soulrider_: yes, kanotix was pretty good with these type of scripts
[07:04] <levon> theres only 8mb free lol for unused partion
[07:04] <WillLuongo> levon: that 8mb isn't really free
[07:04] <levon> okay
[07:05] <levon> will the kubuntu resize the windows partition
[07:05] <levon> its ntfs
[07:05] <WillLuongo> levon: I meant guides you through the repartition sorry
[07:05] <WillLuongo> levon yes
[07:05] <dennister> coolzgeek: are you a newbie to linux?
[07:05] <LinkCanabico> ther is the posibility that xp is scadert all over the disk
[07:05] <chemicalvamp> no its k3d
[07:05] <levon> omg
[07:05] <chemicalvamp> i dont see it on the "aptitude -f list
[07:05] <dennister> because as a newbie you should stick to only deb packages...no rpm's
[07:05] <levon> link well i will try brb
[07:05] <GWillakers> adblock noscript are my fav's
[07:05] <coolzgeek> i noe
[07:06] <coolzgeek> could use yum
[07:06] <dennister> and stick to downloading from synaptic, adept, and apt-get whenever you possibly can
[07:06] <WillLuongo> LinkCanabico: It is a fresh install and shouldn't be a problem for him (of course, it is still a possibility :) )
[07:06] <majnoon> ok i'm TRYING upgrade to feisty
[07:06] <coolzgeek> feisty rocks
[07:06] <LinkCanabico> levon: if you nead step by step pinguinorozado@hotmail.com msn
[07:06] <dennister> coolzgeek: yes it does :)
[07:07] <majnoon> i just hope it works
[07:07] <levon> aright its resizing
[07:07] <dennister> some things still need work, but they've made mythtv so muche easier than even edgy-myth was....other things are easier too, like sun java
[07:07] <coolzgeek> It does and it got my wireless card working
[07:07] <CU> Hi - The K-start menu items don't  match what is shown in the "KDE Menu Editor".  How fix this?
[07:07] <LinkCanabico> good luk
[07:08] <levon> now another question last time i did this it worked to a point when it got to grub last time it would load kubuntu but not xp
[07:08] <coolzgeek> w8
[07:08] <dennister> now ubuntu and canonical REALLY need to lean on nvidia to get surround sound to work
[07:08] <coolzgeek> go to here
[07:09] <dennister> otherwise nvidia has treated us linux-lovers fairly well
[07:09] <LinkCanabico> levon: ok then wen it loads kubuntu you have to edit grub.conf
[07:09] <crimsun> dennister: you mean Ubuntu users, not "ubuntu and canonical".
[07:09] <coolzgeek> levon you have to edit menu.lst
[07:09] <dennister> yes, crimsun
[07:09] <coolzgeek> change the windows xp part to
[07:09] <chemicalvamp> i get the same error code
[07:09] <dennister> kinda hard to get software to put pressure "lean" on people
[07:09] <coolzgeek> map (hdo) (hd1)
[07:09] <coolzgeek> then map (hd1) (hd0)
[07:10] <levon> oh well that would have been easier
[07:10] <coolzgeek> and then chainloader (hd1,0)+1
[07:10] <coolzgeek> delete the parts between map and title
[07:10] <coolzgeek> how do i install google toolbar?
[07:11] <levon> okay
[07:11] <levon> thank you
[07:11] <levon> be back in a little while if i still have a problem
[07:11] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18199/ i get it doing anything...
[07:12] <adriana10orol> alguien sabes espaol?
[07:12] <chemicalvamp> !es
[07:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:12] <levon> aww im seeing two diffrent thinkgs to edit guys  coolzgeek says to edit menu.lst and link canabico says to edit grub.conf which one lol
[07:12] <stoft> coolzgeek: google toolbar - try here: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/toolbar/FT3/intl/en/
[07:13] <levon> things *
[07:13] <coolzgeek> it worked for me
[07:13] <stoft> levon: /boot/grup/menu.lst should be the right one, make a backup first
[07:13] <coolzgeek> are you on 2 hd?
[07:14] <majnoon> stoft, it still going
[07:14] <majnoon> i hope it works
[07:14] <stoft> majnoon: hey there, x:ed me fingers for you :)
[07:15] <majnoon> better make it toes too
[07:15] <levon> thank you
[07:15] <chemicalvamp> anybody? i just wanna know if there is a command to just nuke k3d
[07:15] <LinkCanabico> trust coolzgeek i did it on fedora
[07:15] <coolzgeek> restart your com
[07:15] <coolzgeek> chemicalvamp restart your com
[07:15] <majnoon> about 30 sec for downloads to finish
[07:16] <coolzgeek> remove and restart
[07:16] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: well, I don't think there is (though there should be!)
[07:16] <chemicalvamp> coolzgeek its not reoving, and my computer has been restarted a few times since this has happned
[07:16] <coolzgeek> why do you wanna nuke it?
[07:17] <coolzgeek>  why
[07:17] <dwidmann> coolzgeek: it has all of his package management effectively locked out
[07:17] <CU> Anyone tell me about how to get the k start menu to match the "KDE Menu Editor" settings?
[07:17] <chemicalvamp> cuz its not needed, and obviously not installed correctly
[07:17] <majnoon> ok stoft this what i did: first in sources i switched edgy to feisty, then did update in adept and it started the upgrade wizard and it running now
[07:17] <michael> System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager     <--- How do I get there?
[07:17] <coolzgeek> show me your grub
[07:17] <michael> its not in my menu (fresh install)
[07:18] <coolzgeek> i mean konsole
[07:18] <coolzgeek> did you su?
[07:18] <stoft> majnoon: sounds fairly correct, you actually don't have to change your sources, adept will do it for you :)
[07:18] <coolzgeek> hey you din't su
[07:18] <chemicalvamp> CU right click on the menu : /
[07:18] <majnoon> it kept giving me errors before i did it
[07:19] <coolzgeek> chemical you din't su
[07:19] <CU> chemicalvamp: yes, but changes made there are inconsistent with the k menu
[07:19] <chemicalvamp> brb reboot coolzgeek
[07:20] <stoft> and why would he need to reboot??
[07:20] <LinkCanabico> why not
[07:20] <Doctor_Nick> He gon' die
[07:21] <majnoon> stoft, i think he trying to fix grub
[07:21] <coolzgeek> noo
[07:21] <stoft> majnoon: ah, I thought he was fixing/nuking k3b...
[07:21] <coolzgeek> nuking k3d
[07:21] <coolzgeek> not k3b
[07:21] <majnoon> could be
[07:22] <majnoon> it no HURT anyway
[07:22] <coolzgeek> well chemical did it work?
[07:23] <stoft> oh! good thing I didn't get involved in the discussion earlier, kept reading k3b for some reason... :)
[07:23] <majnoon> ok it SAYS about 8 hours left
[07:23] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18200/
[07:24] <stoft> majnoon: what kind of connection do you have?
[07:24] <majnoon> it INSTALLING now
[07:24] <majnoon> download done
[07:24] <majnoon> 4Mb me think
[07:25] <michael> how do I know in adept what driver to use for my nvidia card?
[07:25] <stoft> majnoon: 8hrs... hope it jumps down a bit. oh well, you'll find out soon... or later
[07:25] <coolzgeek> chemical go into su
[07:26] <majnoon> this my prob me think :: CPU[1] : Pentium III (Coppermine)@731.629 MHz
[07:27] <stoft> majnoon: could be
[07:27] <stoft> nighty people
[07:27] <coolzgeek> what time is it on the other side of the world?
[07:27] <majnoon> Sun Apr 29 01:27:46 EDT 2007
[07:27] <chemicalvamp> ive tried su coolzgeek
[07:27] <LinkCanabico> 12 houers more
[07:28] <chemicalvamp> but instruct me, i'll type w/e u say
[07:28] <coolzgeek> ok
[07:28] <chemicalvamp> LinkCanabico or less...
[07:28] <coolzgeek> lemme read first
[07:28] <coolzgeek> how bout sypnatic?
[07:29] <chemicalvamp> coolzgeek would it be installed?
[07:29] <chemicalvamp> if not, cant do it
[07:29] <chx> Wanted to install feisty from usb stick, got as far running the installer from the stick, I switch to another TTY, I try to mount /dev/sdc1 (dmesg tells me that's my stick) and mount /dev/sdc1 /cdrom says Invalid argument. Tried -t fat , tried /mnt, no dice.
[07:29] <coolzgeek> try dpkg -l
[07:30] <coolzgeek> i mean dpkg -l k3d
[07:30] <chemicalvamp> pF  k3d            0.5.12.0-1ubun 3D modeling and animation system
[07:30] <michael> how do I know in adept what driver to use for my nvidia card?
[07:30] <CU> Anyone tell me about how to get the k start menu to match the "KDE Menu Editor" settings?
[07:31] <sonoftheclayr> michael: the nvidia website has a list of cards that each driver supports
[07:31] <chemicalvamp> CU click save?
[07:31] <michael> oh, must have missed it
[07:31] <michael> thanks
[07:32] <LinkCanabico> CU:  there is one way but you will loose your KDE config
[07:32] <CU> chemicalvamp: thx, no, they don't display the same way - have you tried to do that?
[07:32] <CU> LinkCanabico: How?
[07:32] <coolzgeek> type aptitude
[07:32] <coolzgeek> chemical
[07:32] <CU> LinkCanabico: and, why aren't they consistent?
[07:32] <LinkCanabico> Warning!!!!!!!!  remove your .kde from home
[07:32] <michael> System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager     <--- The web page tells me to go here
[07:33] <michael> cant find it
[07:33] <coolzgeek> you see a black screen?
[07:33] <chx> no idea 'bout why busybox mount tells me "invalid argument" :( ?
[07:33] <LinkCanabico> that way your entire kde wil be reseted as you log in again
[07:33] <coolzgeek> then arrow to virtual packages
[07:34] <coolzgeek> u using konsole or terminal?
[07:34] <chemicalvamp> coolzgeek k
[07:34] <chemicalvamp> konsole
[07:34] <CU> LinkCanabico: If your comments are to me, Are you being serious? remove .kde???
[07:34] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyway to see a history of package installs?
[07:34] <Doctor_Nick> any way
[07:35] <LinkCanabico> yes they are
[07:35] <coolzgeek> go to virtual console
[07:35] <Doctor_Nick> hows that
[07:35] <LinkCanabico> i sed it wass  REALY risky
[07:35] <dennister> k, looks like I'll have to exit kde to go to gnome in order to install compiz...
[07:36] <LinkCanabico> but it does the trik
[07:36] <dennister> what a pity...
[07:36] <dennister> unless someone can tell me another way?
[07:37] <chemicalvamp> coolzgeek ?
[07:37] <coolzgeek> are you there?
[07:37] <LinkCanabico> CU dont do it if posible but somtimes it is faster to reconfigure KDE then find 1 corupt config hiden somewere
[07:37] <chemicalvamp> no?..
[07:37] <coolzgeek> i mean on aptitude
[07:37] <coolzgeek> type aptitude
[07:38] <chemicalvamp> im in aptitde
[07:38] <coolzgeek> ok
[07:38] <dennister> cya soon folks
[07:38] <coolzgeek> scroll to virtual packages
[07:38] <chemicalvamp> did
[07:38] <coolzgeek> enter it
[07:38] <chemicalvamp> did
[07:38] <LinkCanabico> CU is your root KDE configured the same way? if so just copy it
[07:38] <coolzgeek> you use vi?
[07:39] <coolzgeek> scroll down like vi
[07:39] <chemicalvamp> im on them
[07:39] <coolzgeek> go to k3d
[07:39] <CU> LinkCanabico: this is practically a brand new fiesty install - just a few days old, not much done to it.  I just went to insert some "divider" lines into "k>sustem" using kde menu editor, but the list showing in the menu editor is ordered differently thatn the list that comes up from the k menu.
[07:39] <chemicalvamp> vik3d?
[07:39] <coolzgeek> k3d the package name
[07:40] <chemicalvamp> i can search k3d, and it pops up
[07:40] <chemicalvamp> what should i do to it?
[07:40] <coolzgeek> enter
[07:40] <chemicalvamp> want me to paste the info?
[07:41] <LinkCanabico> CU then there woul be no much harm done so "I woul do it " but it depends on you!
[07:41] <CU> LinkCanabico: any idea why there is this discrepancy between the listing in the k menu, & what the menu editro shows?
[07:41] <coolzgeek> yes
[07:41] <coolzgeek> i gtg now half an hour later i will help you
[07:41] <coolzgeek> bye
[07:41] <coolzgeek> cya in half an hr
[07:42] <chemicalvamp> cnt aste it anyways
[07:42] <LinkCanabico> yes and no! it hapend to me 2 times it hapend to me because i was editing it and updating at the same time
[07:43] <LinkCanabico> no idea if this was your case
[07:44] <coolzgeek> type it
[07:44] <chemicalvamp> what exactly do you want to see?
[07:45] <makuseru> !tar.gz
[07:45] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:47] <LinkCanabico> /QUIT
[07:47] <coolzgeek> the information
[07:48] <chemicalvamp> do you need to see the dependancies?
[07:48] <coolzgeek> yep
[07:49] <chemicalvamp> suggests    aqsis (UNSATISFIED)
[07:49] <chemicalvamp> is in red
[07:49] <se7en> somebody know why ktorrent keep crashing on feisty
[07:51] <chemicalvamp> se7en does it freeze up?
[07:51] <se7en> nop just crashes chemicalvamp
[07:52] <chemicalvamp> mine locks me up on edgy
[07:52] <se7en> about ever 30 min crashes and i have to restart
[07:52] <makuseru> how do i open/install a .bin file?
[07:54] <coolzgeek> install aqsis
[07:54] <coolzgeek> and then uninstall the whole k3d
[07:55] <coolzgeek> or you can reinstall k3d and uninstall it again
[07:55] <coolzgeek> i have to go now
[07:55] <coolzgeek> bye
[07:55] <Doctor_Nick> what are my options for japanese input in kubuntu?
[07:55] <michael> need help with installing nvidia drivers
[07:55] <Doctor_Nick> (I don't speak it natively, I just need to type it in)
[07:56] <michael> ubuntu help page doesnt help
[07:56] <makuseru> Doctor_Nick: theres somthing in the add remove aboutu that
[07:56] <chemicalvamp> how do i reinstall?
[07:56] <Doctor_Nick> makuseru: ?
[07:57] <makuseru> Doctor_Nick: just search kanji in the add remove
[07:59] <michael> ubuntu webpage tells me to go to places in my menu that arent there. What do I do?
[08:00] <michael> acnt find any help in forums either
[08:00] <michael> (cant)
[08:00] <michael> using Feisty
[08:01] <makuseru> whats your problems?
[08:01] <makuseru> err problem*
[08:01] <michael> video
[08:01] <michael> I have an nvidia card
[08:02] <makuseru> why is that a problem?
[08:02] <makuseru> your going to need to specify
[08:03] <michael> sorry, I need drivers for it
[08:03] <michael> I have no 3d acceleration
[08:03] <michael> and cant run open GL
[08:03] <makuseru> get ge automatix
[08:03] <makuseru> go get*
[08:03] <makuseru> but i didnt tell you to do that
[08:04] <michael> I was told I didnt need it for Feisty
[08:04] <makuseru> i did
[08:04] <michael> add/remove programs?
[08:05] <makuseru> no
[08:05] <michael> or adept
[08:05] <makuseru> www.getautomatix.com
[08:05] <michael> I'm a newbie dude
[08:05] <makuseru> like i said, i didnt tell you to use that tho
[08:05] <Wuerm> @all: good morning (time at my home: 8 o'clock)
[08:05] <michael> why is thatt?
[08:05] <michael> gnome?
[08:05] <makuseru> no
[08:06] <makuseru> the ops dont like people recommending automatix
[08:06] <chemicalvamp> where are installed packages located?
[08:06] <chemicalvamp> i have to delete one
[08:06] <dennister> ok...this compiz is wierd...as soon as i cam back to kde, adept-notifer had a tiny icon...since no updates were needed, i was trying to get it to close, then maximized it instead, and it was all gobbleygood...doesn't like gl i guess...took a hell of a lot of trial and error just to get it to quit
[08:06] <michael> ok going there now
[08:06] <chemicalvamp> and i would like to know the command to stomp on it after its deleted
[08:07] <dennister> and then i tried to open konversation, but the server list won't close
[08:07] <makuseru> dennister: try in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <dennister> both ways to close it: the icon in the top left corner, and the x in the top right, don't function to close that window
[08:08] <makuseru> chemicalvamp: in adept
[08:08] <dennister> ok...will do
[08:08] <chemicalvamp> makuseru no
[08:08] <makuseru> chemicalvamp: yes
[08:08] <chemicalvamp> i said no for a reason
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> adept is a program
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> it reads
[08:09] <makuseru> do i care? you said "where are installed packages listed" and i told you
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> when i said located i meant where they are saved
[08:09] <makuseru> oh
[08:09] <makuseru> should be /usr/bin
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> thanks
[08:10] <makuseru> no prob
[08:10] <makuseru> i would be carefull deleting things form there tho
[08:10] <makuseru> did a purge not work for you?
[08:12] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18200/
[08:12] <michael> makuseru: can I install the 32 bit version in the 64 bit Feisty?  reason: dependentcy problems
[08:12] <chemicalvamp> says that for everything.. -f install dpgk --purge.. install anything... everytime
[08:12] <michael> with the 64 bit version
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> yes
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> i have 64bit comp / edgy
[08:14] <michael> ok cool
[08:14] <makuseru> michael: that dosnt make sense, can you install 32 bit version in 64bit version? huh
[08:15] <michael> reason for dependentcy problems (from what I understand from the error is that I dont have python?)
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> I'm having a really hard time with my video card anyone willing to help ?
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> under Kubuntu 7.07
[08:15] <LinkCanabico> yes it is posible but you nead all dependencys in their 32 version to
[08:15] <chemicalvamp> upgrade to edgy, its better
[08:15] <michael> Sorry, I have 64 bit Feisty install
[08:16] <sunflov> edgy?
[08:16] <NsOmNiAc> Feisty
[08:16] <sunflov> my system is kubuntu
[08:16] <chemicalvamp> missread sorry
[08:16] <michael> with no luck in the automatix2 64 install
[08:17] <michael> is that better? makuseru
[08:17] <michael> I will try and install the 32 bit version
[08:18] <chemicalvamp> would anybody happen to know where installed packages are listed, (in a file) what does apt-get look at when it wants to fix a broken install?
[08:18] <makuseru> oh
[08:18] <makuseru> ok
[08:18] <makuseru> chemicalvamp: ALL programs are in /usr/bin
[08:18] <chemicalvamp> i deleted all the k3b files, it still says the same thing
[08:19] <sunflov> I have a AMD 64bit CPU,and I install the 32bit kubuntu
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> if i can find the text file (probably) that has a list of packages installed. and delete k3d from it, i think i can fix this
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> for some reason I can get it to do 1024x768 it's an Nvidia 5700 VE and I can't get it to do a higher resolutino any thought anyone ?
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> I'm used to 1600x1200
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> under Debian I didn't have this issue
[08:20] <chemicalvamp> sunflov the 32 bit version will work fine, but the 64 bit version will take full advantage of your archetecture
[08:21] <sunflov> thank you
[08:21] <michael> chemicalspill is right
[08:21] <michael> I reinstalled (this time the 64 bit version)
[08:22] <michael> and it runs noticably faster
[08:22] <sunflov> and my audio card has no sound ,it is rtl hdaudio
[08:22] <michael> sound sucks though
[08:23] <crimsun> sunflov: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[08:23] <sunflov> i will try
[08:24] <pukemeister> niteall
[08:25] <chemicalvamp> any gurus in here know what file adept, apt-get, etc.. reads to build the list of installed, not fully installed programs?
[08:27] <michael> crap, 32bit automatix2 wont install cause I have a 64 bit cpu
[08:27] <michael> so what am I stuck?
[08:27] <michael> do I need to have python to install automatix2?
[08:32] <michael> looking for anyone who can help me get nvidia drivers for feisty
[08:32] <michael> apparently I cant go about it the same way as earlier versions
[08:32] <wolferine> michael, its in the ubuntu guide
[08:33] <wolferine> google the guide
[08:33] <chemicalvamp> i wish i could help, but i never figured it out either
[08:33] <wolferine> look for latest nvidia
[08:33] <michael> I tried, but it tells me to go to the part of my menu that isnt there
[08:33] <michael> dead end
[08:33] <wolferine> michael, which part?
[08:33] <sunflov> http://pastebin.ca/463926
[08:34] <michael> System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager     <--- The web page tells me to go here
[08:34] <wolferine> michael, did you install the latest driver?
[08:34] <michael> thats not in my menu
[08:34] <wolferine> oh wait
[08:34] <wolferine> thats in there to get it
[08:34] <wolferine> right click on Applications
[08:34] <wolferine> then Edit
[08:35] <wolferine> then click on Administration at the bottom
[08:35] <michael> edit the menu?
[08:35] <wolferine> michael, is there any other edit?
[08:36] <michael> right click on applications.... you mean the kmenu button?
[08:37] <wolferine> im using Gnome
[08:37] <wolferine> sorry, cannot help
[08:37] <michael> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:38] <michael> this is the Kubuntu room
[08:40] <michael> and I guess no one that has feisty has their 3d acceleration enabled
[08:40] <michael> (with kde)
[08:42] <michael> oh well, maybe tomorrow
[08:42] <michael> night all
[08:42] <jussi01> michael: just use the edgy instructions - they shoud work for feisty also
[08:45] <michael> well, ok. I'm a newbie and if I screw it up, I'm afraid I   wont beable to undue my mess
[08:45] <michael> lol
[08:45] <michael> this is a fresh install, so its not like I will be loosing anything
[08:46] <jussi01> !nvidia
[08:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <jussi01> michael: use thos instructions...
[08:47] <michael> ok
[08:49] <michael> how do I get to the restricted device manager?
[08:50] <michael> I dont  have the path they gave me on the page in my menu
[08:50] <michael> crap, I was looking at feisty
[08:50] <makuseru> can you open programs in a virtual window from a term?
[08:50] <jussi01> michael: hang on, those are ubuntu instructions... Ill have a look for some feisty kubuntu ones
[08:50] <michael> sorry
[08:51] <jussi01> michael: dont be sorry, just wait a sec, ill find some good instructions for you :D
[08:52] <michael> thank you
[08:52] <michael> I have looked for so long
[08:53] <jussi01> michael: it is simple from memory, which nvidia card do you have?
[08:53] <michael> fx
[08:54] <makuseru> michael: did you get automatix?
[08:54] <jussi01> !automatix | makuseru michael
[08:54] <ubotu> makuseru michael: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:54] <michael> no, it wont install
[08:54] <jussi01> DONT DO IT
[08:54] <makuseru> jussi01: ive used it on countless comps, with NO problems
[08:54] <makuseru> and michael: see, told you
[08:55] <jussi01> michael: whats the model number
[08:55] <michael> makuseru: yeah
[08:55] <makuseru> what went wrong?
[08:55] <michael> I think its fx5900
[08:56] <jussi01> michael: akies
[08:56] <jussi01> ok
[08:56] <michael> akies?
[08:56] <jussi01> michael: okies... :P
[08:56] <jussi01> sorry...
[08:56] <jussi01> meaning "ok"
[08:57] <michael> ahhh
[08:57] <michael> lol, sorry. new one on me
[08:57] <majnoon> !radeon
[08:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <dug> I changed every color to my liking, but there are a few that I can't seem to change, that is my web browser firefox how would I go about matching my scheme of colors to firefox?
[08:59] <michael> it weird that Ubuntu only has help for those using gnome
[09:00] <FireTalon> ubuntu is built for gnome
[09:00] <michael> if you use kde (at least to a newbie) your screwed and ignored
[09:00] <jussi01> michael: yeah a little weird they havent updated the factoid...
[09:00] <laervian> good day everyone
[09:00] <jussi01> michael: run these commands
[09:00] <jussi01> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[09:00] <jussi01> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:01] <laervian> does anyone here know how to have the nvidia module NOT unloaded during suspend?
[09:01] <jussi01> and then restart the X server
[09:01] <michael> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[09:02] <jussi01> michael: you included the enable on the end?
[09:02] <michael> yes
[09:02] <jussi01> and you pasted them one by one?
[09:02] <michael> yes
[09:02] <michael> the first one worked fine
[09:03] <michael> wait maybe not
[09:03] <jussi01> michael: ?
[09:03] <michael> let me give you what it said
[09:03] <michael> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:04] <kelly> hey guys, quick question. Is fat32 access slow on linux?
[09:04] <michael> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18211/
[09:05] <Shiva88> kelly- i've never noticed it to be, but i'm hardly an experienced linux user :)
[09:05] <jussi01> michael: automatix has been nasty to your system...
[09:05] <kelly> ok, because I am using cp to copy my home folder from a ext3 drive to a fat32 parition and its taking ages :-(
[09:06] <jussi01> michael: run sudo apt-get -f install and pastebin the answer for me
[09:06] <michael> it wont install
[09:07] <baskitcaise> Kelly:I hope you are not going to use it from the fat32 or copy it back? it will lose all perms and security
[09:08] <Shiva88> kelly- what baskitcaise said :)     also, is it an IDE drive?
[09:08] <kelly> baskitcaise: no its only a few avi files etc. yes its an ide drive in a usb 2.0 case
[09:08] <michael> want me to paste after install?
[09:09] <jussi01> michael: did you run that command i gave you?
[09:09] <michael> yes, its installing now
[09:09] <jussi01> if so, paste the output in the paste bin for me
[09:09] <michael> 93%
[09:09] <baskitcaise> OK then :-) I don`t have much speed drop onto USB drives in fat32 here
[09:09] <Shiva88> kelly- i was going to tell you to make sure that UDMA was enabled, but i don't think that's applicable for an external drive.  i'm afraid i can't really help you
[09:10] <makuseru> can you open programs in a virtual window from a term?
[09:11] <kelly> baskitcaise: how long would you expect 10gb to take to a usb fat32 drive?
[09:11] <michael> it wont let me talk
[09:12] <jussi01> michael: is your nick registered?
[09:12] <baskitcaise> Umm... IIRC it took me a couple to four hours for around 40gig a week or so ago but that is from memory so the figures could be way out there
[09:12] <michael> no, I JUST installed feisty
[09:12] <michael> I havent dont anything yet
[09:12] <michael> (done)
[09:13] <jussi01> ok, well give me the pastebin of it anyway
[09:13] <michael> k
[09:13] <baskitcaise> I just set it up and left it while I went out
[09:13] <makuseru> !vmware
[09:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:13] <michael> !pastebin
[09:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <michael> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18212/
[09:15] <jussi01> michael: now run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[09:15] <jussi01> and:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:15] <michael> ok
[09:15] <jussi01> and restart x
[09:15] <jussi01> afterwards
[09:16] <kelly> baskitcaise: the estimate for me is 2 hours for 10gb, terrible
[09:16] <jussi01> michael: Im going for a while Ill bbl to see how you did.
[09:16] <michael> great ok
[09:16] <michael> thanks for your help
[09:17] <michael> if it works I may be in bed
[09:17] <jussi01> michael: np
[09:17] <michael> :o)
[09:17] <johnt> !firefox | johnt
[09:17] <baskitcaise> That is the way it works kenny, it needs to sync after every packet so to speak, just in case the media gets removed
[09:18] <TheCreationist> michael: You do know how to restart X, right?
[09:18] <baskitcaise> this slows down the copy but makes sure you don`t lose data
[09:18] <jussi01> michael: ill leave irc on so just leave a message here and ill read back - remember to prefix the message with jussi01
[09:18] <jussi01> TheCreationist: looks like it
[09:18] <jussi01> :P
[09:18] <TheCreationist> :P
[09:20] <smile> hi ... what's the best HTML creator ? screem, bluefish, or Nvu ???
[09:20] <smile> and can i make HTML pages with Kdevelop ?
[09:20] <jussi01> smile: for me its quanta...
[09:21] <smile> jussi01: why ?
[09:23] <snowdonkey> smile: Quanta has quite a bit of features, and is a bit more stable than Bluefish
[09:23] <smile> snowdonkey: thx :-)
[09:23] <snowdonkey> Code folding, built-in CVS, built-in FTP too I think.
[09:24] <snowdonkey> No prob.  :)  I had the same problem with it as most HTML editors - no tab rearrangement.  The order you open documents is what you're stuck with.
[09:31] <NsOmNiAc> anyone here help me out with a screen resolution problem
[09:32] <NsOmNiAc> I have always used Gnome or E and for some reason I can't get KDE to go higher than 1024x768
[09:33] <mattia> ciao
[09:33] <mattia> c qualcuno?
[09:35] <ukubuntu> NsOmNiAc in gnome I editted the xorg.conf but not sure for kde
[09:38] <NsOmNiAc> I'm halfway tempted to move back to gnome
[09:38] <pvandewyngaerde> gran paradiso alpha 4 doesn't start on my kubuntu feisty: (firefox-bin:6630): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.Using the fallback 'C' locale.(firefox-bin:6630): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[09:44] <TheCreationist> NsOmNiAc: Don't do it!
[09:45] <NsOmNiAc> lol TheCreationist
[09:45] <NsOmNiAc> I love the key bindings in KDE
[09:45] <NsOmNiAc> but I can't get the damn graphics card to work right
[09:45] <TheCreationist> Bindings?
[09:45] <TheCreationist> Ah... Fiesty or Edgy?
[09:54] <phratman> Anyone know how to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/+bug/45438
[09:55] <hv23> hy guys, anybody know when the knetworkmanager 28% bug will be fixed?
[09:59] <Hobbsee> hv23: what bug?
[09:59] <hv23> if you have a wifi with atheros chipset and want to join a wireless network the knetworkmanager hangs at 28%
[10:01] <rasgod> I am back :)
[10:02] <makuseru> can you open programs in a virtual window from a term?
[10:03] <makuseru> !vmware
[10:03] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:03] <holycow> neato
[10:04] <holycow> didn't know about vmware in repos
[10:05] <makuseru> !vitrual dekstop
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vitrual dekstop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <holycow> !beryl
[10:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:06] <makuseru> im not looking for beryl
[10:06] <makuseru> im trying to open a program in a virtual desktop
[10:06] <holycow> what the fuck do i care what you are looking for?
[10:06] <holycow> that was for me
[10:06] <johnt> be nice people
[10:06] <makuseru> !language | holycow
[10:06] <ubotu> holycow: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:06] <holycow> biteme fanboy
[10:07] <makuseru> we need an op in here
[10:07] <holycow> you need to be less self centered
[10:08] <mat1980> knetworkmanager doesn't connect to my wifi network at startup
[10:08] <mat1980> I have to select the network to connect, then it connect to it
[10:08] <Hobbsee> hv23: probably when atheros get their drivers better, or networkmanager gets fixed.  it used to work
[10:08] <mat1980> but there is only one network.
[10:09] <mat1980> How can I make knetworkmanager able to connect at start up without manual actions?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> it should, once it's done it once
[10:10] <mat1980> unfortunately it doesn't
[10:10] <mat1980> I always have to make it manually
[10:12] <Maruko> hi
[10:12] <Maruko> I have a problem with GAIM
[10:13] <_kmh_> hi
[10:13] <Maruko> the contact list got extended on the right and it is tooooooo long
[10:13] <Maruko> it goes from one working space to another
[10:13] <Maruko> what can I do
[10:13] <Maruko> I cannot resize it...
[10:14] <_kmh_> does anybody have experiences with a 7.04 install on a dell inspiron 9400 ?
[10:14] <rasgod> Maruko , lol
[10:14] <Maruko> @rasgod = ya it's pretty funny, but also annoyin g sometimes...
[10:14] <_kmh_> and or what do i do if the install process gets stuck during network interface detection ?
[10:15] <wolferine> if I tried to remove something before, just checking what packages were going to be removed, then now I do sudo aptitude install new_app it still asks me if I can to continue with the removal from before, how can I take that out?
[10:15] <wolferine> so I am not prompted each time
[10:15] <rasgod> hm Maruko, maybe try another chat manager like kopete, its also pretty good, maybe then you dont have this problem anymore
[10:16] <Maruko> @rasgod = my6 situation is quite unusual : I am running Kubuntu, but I have 2 DE: KDE and XFCE, I use the second one with Gaim as a predefined IM program....
[10:17] <rasgod> ohh
[10:18] <gdiebel> Maruko: window handles not available? if using kwin try using alt,right-drag the window
[10:18] <kraut> moin
[10:18] <johnt> dumbkiwi: Hi from Hamilton
[10:20] <don> hello I just got 7.04 up and running
[10:21] <johnt> don: so what do you think?
[10:21] <don> I love it
[10:21] <johnt> how about beryl/compiz?
[10:21] <don> I like all os systems thay amaze me kubuntu is my favorite
[10:21] <Maruko> whatb is Kwin?
[10:22] <Maruko> @gdiebel = what is Kwin
[10:22] <don> just starting with kubuntu
[10:22] <johnt> !kwin
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <Maruko> (I am working on XFCE so I don't know if KDE apps will work)
[10:23] <don> where can I get ninvida dvrs?
[10:23] <gdiebel> Maruko: kwin is kde window manager
[10:23] <Maruko> so it will not run on xfce
[10:23] <wolferine> if I tried to remove something before, just checking what packages were going to be removed, then now I do sudo aptitude install new_app it still asks me if I can to continue with the removal from before, how can I take that out?
[10:25] <johnt> don: nvidia drivers are there by default look in your package manager
[10:26] <johnt> don" then search glx
[10:26] <don> ok thaanks
[10:30] <wolferine> someone must know
[10:30] <wolferine> i really dont want this to remove all my files
[10:31] <rasgod> wolferine , umm wait a mom , I search something I think I know the solution ;)
[10:32] <don> wwhat is glx?
[10:33] <wolferine> !glx | don
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <johnt> graphics i a windows environment
[10:33] <johnt> in
[10:33] <rasgod> wolferine where that packages broken which u want to remove?
[10:34] <wolferine> i dont want to remove any
[10:34] <don> ok things are working very well on this copy
[10:34] <wolferine> i just want to stop being prompted to remove them
[10:34] <DarkED> hi, i installed some games from the repos and some of them aren't working. I try to run them and KDE acts like it's going to load them, but they never load
[10:34] <DarkED> this is happening with balazar, Tremulous, and one other game
[10:34] <wolferine> DarkED, run from command line
[10:35] <DarkED> wolferine: sure thing
[10:35] <wolferine> check the output for errors
[10:35] <rasgod> ah
[10:36] <DarkED> wolferine: slune and balazar give me "ImportError: No module named soya"
[10:36] <DarkED> wolferine: tremulous is missing a pk file, i can fix that later
[10:37] <rasgod> wolferine when you open the packet manager there is an option filter for "removal" how about that?
[10:37] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i install a 32 bit environment on my Kubuntu Feist 64 ?
[10:38] <wolferine> rasgod, ?
[10:38] <wolferine> what do you mean?
[10:39] <makki>    
[10:39] <makki>    
[10:39] <rasgod> um I mean under kubuntu, I've opened the Adept Manager, and there is some option with a cross for "removal"
[10:40] <wolferine> rasgod, yes, but do you really understand my question?
[10:40] <rasgod> lol I am stupid, I think I dont understand the question *lol* :(
[10:40] <wolferine> probably not
[10:40] <makki>  
[10:41] <makki>  
[10:42] <makki> can some one help me o find arabic channel?
[10:42] <rpedro> !ar
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <rpedro> :|
[10:42] <wolferine> what is the counrty code?
[10:42] <makki> any arab country
[10:42] <rpedro> !arabic
[10:42] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[10:43] <makki> thanks
[10:43] <rpedro> np
[10:43] <makki>     
[10:44] <makki>     
[10:44] <makki>  
[10:44] <DarkED> woah
[10:44] <DarkED> arabic...
[10:44] <DarkED> thats odd
[10:44] <wolferine> if I tried to remove something before, just checking what packages were going to be removed, then now I do sudo aptitude install new_app it still asks me if I can to continue with the removal from before, how can I take that out?
[10:46] <makki> i install a software but i can not find it in application menu
[10:46] <pag> wolferine, I'm not quite sure, but you could try sudo aptitude keep-all
[10:46] <johnt> wolverine: why dont you let it take it out.. then put it back again later???
[10:46] <wolferine> Johnt its about 100 packages
[10:46] <wolferine> thats why
[10:47] <johnt> Wolverine they will be cached locally so not really a problem is it?
[10:47] <wolferine> Johnt I am not sure if you know what your talking about
[10:48] <wolferine> thanks pag, I beleive that might have worked
[10:48] <rasgod> gone
[10:49] <Linx> Hi
[10:49] <Linx> I upgraded to feisty but while upgrading I get errors with programs trying to update the rc.d files
[10:50] <johnt> wolverine: You are probably right I had a similar experience but there were no where near 100 packages involved. I am certainly no expert and would never pretend to be
[10:50] <wolferine> its quite obvious by your use of the ? mark
[10:51] <Linx> update-rc.d displays its usage details
[10:51] <johnt> wolverine: fair enough I will back out now!
[10:51] <Linx> indicating the updates are sending the incorrect command line parameters when trying to upgrade packages
[10:52] <Linx> but I am unsure how to fix the problem
[10:52] <Linx> what version should update-rc.d be for feisty
[10:55] <levon> anyone know how to get ie working
[10:56] <levon> need it for cambodian fonts i have no choice ive tried wine
[10:56] <levon> but it pulls up a white box
[10:56] <levon> ive tried ies4linux works on some sites but not all
[10:58] <binks> !ntfs
[10:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:58] <binks> !fuse
[10:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:58] <binks> !ntfs-3g
[10:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:58] <wolferine> !webcam | wolferine
[10:59] <pvandewyngaerde> i have installed linux32 and flash plugin 9, but i have no sound in kubuntu fiesty because of the 32 bit emulation
[10:59] <jussi01> !botabuse | binks
[10:59] <ubotu> binks: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:59] <levon> getting ie to work on linux anyone
[10:59] <icecruncher> !Boty
[10:59] <icecruncher> !Bot
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:00] <binks> jussi01: sorry i never new that
[11:00] <binks> levon there are tutorials on the forum for ie
[11:01] <jussi01> levon: either get ies4linux or crossover office
[11:01] <levon> i tried ies4linux not good
[11:01] <levon> what is crossover office?
[11:02] <jussi01> levon its like a beefed up version of wine...
[11:02] <levon> apt-get install ?
[11:02] <levon> what would the name be
[11:02] <jussi01> levon: http://www.codeweavers.com/ it costs...
[11:02] <levon> :)
[11:02] <jussi01> its $40 US
[11:03] <levon> looks like ill dig in my pocket
[11:03] <jussi01> it installs ie6 with 5ish clicks...
[11:03] <levon> i have some pocket lint for now
[11:03] <jussi01> levon: it is a very good product, i have it myself
[11:03] <levon> wait till i get paid friday lol
[11:04] <binks> l  | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[11:04] <binks> levon:
[11:04] <jussi01> !opsnack
[11:04] <ubotu> Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[11:04] <jussi01> :D
[11:05] <levon> yes im here
[11:05] <binks> jussi01: so thats not abusing the bots ;)
[11:05] <binks> levon:   | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[11:06] <levon> very nice thank you
[11:07] <levon> oh ive downloaded that
[11:07] <levon> i cant get cambodian fonts to render though
[11:07] <binks> levon:  | the power of google hey who would beleive it
[11:08] <binks> have you run wineonfig
[11:08] <levon> i have downloaded ie6 sp1 and have it installed but its not going well
[11:08] <binks> wineconfig
[11:08] <levon> yes
[11:08] <levon> but im not sure i set it up right
[11:08] <levon> i get the browser to work
[11:08] <levon> it works but wont display the fonts correctly
[11:09] <levon> for www.rfa.org/khmer
[11:09] <levon> actually if you click that you will see what i see
[11:10] <levon> i tried placing the fonts they use into that folder in wine something or other fonts but it doesnt work i also tried placing them into the ies4linux folder under fonts still nothing
[11:11] <binks> levon:  works for me in Konk
[11:11] <levon> hu?
[11:11] <levon> konquere
[11:11] <levon> no way
[11:11] <binks> yes and in firefox what do you need ie for
[11:11] <baudthief> Has anyone compared the performance of vmware under ubuntu (host) and WinXP (guest), on a core2duo and a regular prescott P4? Just wondering how much difference it'll make performance wise with 2 cores and VT
[11:11] <binks> its not english should it be
[11:11] <levon> no way
[11:12] <levon> no
[11:12] <levon> it should look like damn i dont know hold on
[11:12] <levon> www.rfa.org
[11:12] <levon> should look like the letters
[11:12] <fdoving> baudthief: i have not compared, but the core2duo with vt feels very fast.
[11:12] <levon> the 6 one counting left the icons
[11:13] <fdoving> baudthief: i use the kvm, not vmware though.
[11:13] <levon> its like a temple
[11:13] <levon> the letters next to is is how everything should look
[11:13] <binks> ok you lost me are you makeing the web page
[11:14] <baudthief> fdoving: Never tried kvm... basically, I _want_ to stay running ubuntu (migrated from XP recently), problem is there are a few apps I need that are only available in windows
[11:14] <baudthief> vmware on my 3.2G P4 + 1024MB ram is usable, but not nearly enough
[11:14] <levon> oh you know what here www.rfa.org/khmer the letters at the top of the page in the middle thats how its suppose to look not like the us alphabet
[11:14] <levon> binks does yours look like that
[11:15] <wolferine> how do I find my kernel version?
[11:15] <Linx> uname -a
[11:16] <fdoving> baudthief: understand. windows xp in kvm on my core2duo 2.16ghz with 2GB ram is usable. haven't really used it  for anything.. but it does not feel slow at all.
[11:17] <baudthief> fdoving: That's exactly what I wanted to hear! :D
[11:17] <LinkCanabico> exit
[11:17] <levon> binks if yours looks like that all the way through i would like to know how its done because ive tried everything and i thought i had it at one point but it wasnt right the letters were there but they wernt spelling words lol
[11:17] <auino> ciao
[11:17] <baudthief> I guess worst case scenario, can always run all the windows apps on a windows machine, and use Krdc/vnc through ubuntu
[11:18] <fdoving> baudthief: that's also an option.
[11:18] <levon> linkcanabico
[11:18] <auino> hi
[11:18] <levon> i got it working good
[11:19] <baudthief> fdoving: Thanks for your help :)
[11:19] <levon> now i want to run ie explorer but ies4linux doesnt do what i want lol so im trying to use wine any tutes on that
[11:19] <auino> someone can help me?? i've got some problems if i press shift button more than one time...
[11:19] <balint> hi
[11:20] <balint> i cant see my fodlers on ntfs wicj have got special hungarian characters
[11:20] <Soule> moparisthebest
[11:25] <MementoMori> hi all
[11:26] <MementoMori> !pppoe
[11:26] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:28] <jussi01> !hu | balint
[11:28] <ubotu> balint: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[11:29] <Soule> is anyone on #mopar?
[11:29] <balint> i already solved the problem. i had to umount -a, and after that, mount -a  and the special chars wrere visible from now on.
[11:30] <balint> but i dont want to type in this commands on every system start up
[11:31] <balint> so is there a solution to make this umount -a , mount -a excersize automatically???
[11:31] <icecruncher> balint: you could make a script
[11:31] <levon> how can i tell what wine version im running
[11:31] <balint> well i dont know how to make a script :(
[11:31] <icecruncher> :)
[11:32] <icecruncher> balint: jsut a sec
[11:32] <Soule> .
[11:32] <jtt> balint, put that command at the end of your /etc/rc.local  file  just before the  exit 0 line
[11:33] <Soule> can someone go on #mopar, and get moparisthebest to talk to me here??
[11:33] <balint> jtt this will run thi two command every boot?
[11:33] <icecruncher> Soule: what the heck for?
[11:33] <Soule> i want to get unbanned, i got banned for no reason on #mopar
[11:34] <jtt> balint, yes
[11:34] <icecruncher> balint: or you could have some fun by learning bash http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/Bash-Scripting-Introduction-HOWTO/en/index.html
[11:34] <balint> after umount -a just hit an enter? or wich character separates the commands?
[11:34] <Linx> how so I enable the boot splash on feisty?
[11:34] <jtt> Soule, then /msg the admin on what ever node you logged into
[11:35] <jtt> balint, yes
[11:35] <jtt> balint, newline separates commands
[11:35] <levon> anyway to tell wine version
[11:35] <balint> thx
[11:36] <Soule> ??????
[11:36] <jtt> balint, sure
[11:36] <Soule> i need mopars attention
[11:36] <jtt> Soule, what node did you login to originally
[11:36] <Soule> omfg
[11:36] <balint> jtt and this runs as root ?
[11:36] <Soule> node?
[11:36] <Soule> node?
[11:37] <jtt> balint, yes all  rc.d  rc.local  run as root a boot
[11:37] <Soule> node??
[11:37] <jtt> Soule, yes freenode,  ubuntu  etc. not channel
[11:37] <Soule> what do you mean
[11:38] <Soule> irc.moparisthebest.org
[11:38] <balint> jtt, well lest check it out :)
[11:38] <jtt> Soule, ok then /msg the admin and see if they will help you
[11:38] <Soule> what admin
[11:39] <Soule> idk i cant get on the channe;l
[11:39] <Soule> idk i cant get on the channel
[11:39] <jtt> Soule, hold on let me get the format
[11:39] <Soule> can you just tell him to reply here??
[11:40] <blekos> i am using ubuntu, i wanted to ask if desktopBSD is more stable/ secure than ubuntu
[11:40] <jtt> Soule, do you know how to use pastebin
[11:41] <Soule> mp
[11:41] <Soule> no
[11:41] <coolzgeek> Chemical1
[11:41] <coolzgeek> !
[11:41] <coolzgeek> chemical vamp
[11:41] <balint> jtt well the unmounting worke perfect, only the remounting didnt work XD:)
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> brilliant ubuntu videos -> http://www.ubuntutribe.com/
[11:42] <Soule> GET MOPAR TO TALK HERE
[11:42] <Soule> go on #mopar
[11:42] <Soule> and tell him to start talking to me on #kubuntu
[11:42] <jtt> Soule, ok hold on a sec
[11:43] <fdoving> Soule: please stop, this is the kubuntu support channel, it has very little to do with our personal problems with this mopar.
[11:43] <dac_> does kubuntu have the games available that unbuntu has?
[11:43] <fdoving> dac_: you can install the same games, yes. you can even make ubuntu kubuntu, and vice versa. just with installing some packages.
[11:44] <balint> jtt another question. my /media/hdax folders appeared on the desktop, can i delete them from the desktop?
[11:44] <dac_> ok,go where to do this?
[11:44] <jtt> Soule, the support node for  #mopar  is  freenode.net  I will send you the commands you need in a sec
[11:45] <Soule> i am on freenode!
[11:45] <fdoving> balint: rightclick on the desktop, desktop properties -> behavior -> device icons.
[11:46] <Soule> omfg how hard is it to get his attention
[11:46] <icecruncher> Soule jtt: please do this with pm
[11:46] <Soule> icecruncher  i dont see you helping e
[11:46] <Soule> just tell him to talk to me here
[11:47] <icecruncher> Soule: at leat offtoic, and i pmed the mod on the chan about it
[11:47] <MementoMori> !kinternet
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinternet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <icecruncher> *least
[11:47] <Soule> what chan?
[11:47] <fdoving> Soule: please stop, this has nothing to do with kubuntu support.
[11:47] <Soule> i need to get unbanned
[11:48] <balint> fdoving that doesnt solve my problem :(
[11:48] <fdoving> balint: wasn't it the device icons you wanted to remove?
[11:49] <levon> how do you change directories in console example i need a space cd health directors
[11:49] <balint> i dont know why my sda1 disk appeaerd on the desk
[11:49] <balint> i just mounted and umounted ,and it appeaerd :(
[11:49] <fdoving> levon: 'cd health\ directors'
[11:49] <balint> btw the rc.local didnt remounted what i want :(:(
[11:49] <don> I cant get wine to work anyone?
[11:49] <levon> aww thank you
[11:50] <balint> rc.local did the umount perfectly, but in the next line i wrote mount -a, but didnt do it :(
[11:50] <Jok3rs> #java
[11:50] <icecruncher> don: I presume you installed it, right?
[11:50] <dac_> fdoving, how do you make  your nick orange?
[11:50] <don> many times
[11:50] <fdoving> dac_: no idea. it's not orange here.
[11:51] <don> says error files
[11:51] <jtt> !pastebin >jtt
[11:51] <dac_> ok
[11:51] <don> downloaded it right clicked and install
[11:52] <Jok3rs> Mopar
[11:52] <dac_> bot tell about hiding a nick.
[11:52] <Jok3rs> get mopar in her!
[11:52] <don> wihich wine for 7.04??
[11:53] <dac_> uboto,tell about hiding a nick.
[11:54] <balint> jtt i solved it :) only had to umount the sda1 itself, and not umount -a
[11:55] <balint> i dont know whats the diference but it worked at least
[11:55] <dac_> ubotu,tell about hiding nick
[11:56] <jtt> balint, what was the original problem i never heard it
[11:56] <balint> jtt the problem was that when i remounted my sda1, it was shown on the desktop :S
[11:57] <jtt> balint, ok
[12:01] <Ratlos> hallo habe kubuntu neben wxp auf zweite festplatte installiert jetzt bootet xp nicht mehr
[12:01] <hyper_ch> !de | Ygg`drasil
[12:01] <ubotu> Ygg`drasil: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:01] <jtt> !sp
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <jtt> !spanish
[12:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:02] <don> wine starts to load then fizzles out anyone?
[12:02] <jtt> don, cant help dont use it
[12:03] <don> ok
[12:03] <don> what you use?
[12:03] <jtt> don, wait a bit someone might pick it uo.  I only use vmware works great
[12:04] <don> that cost?
[12:04] <Linx> what are you trying to do with wine?
[12:04] <don> load it to run some software
[12:04] <don> see what I can do with it
[12:05] <don> experimenting
[12:05] <Linx> so... wine software.exe
[12:05] <Linx> ?
[12:05] <don> I like linux but nothing i have works with it
[12:05] <Linx> what type of software are you wanting to use?
[12:06] <don> camara games
[12:06] <blekos> when i do  apt-get autoremove among the other things it ask for gnustep-gui-common if i wanted to be removed
[12:06] <don> printer dont work either
[12:06] <blekos> what will happen?
[12:06] <Linx> just install the kde games
[12:06] <Simeon_H> just steal cedega :D
[12:06] <Linx> heaps of games
[12:06] <blekos> will gnome work without it?
[12:07] <Linx> what type of printer?
[12:07] <Linx> just need to configure cups to work with your printer
[12:08] <don> kubuntu is fine like it is I just want to see what all I can do for myself
[12:08] <don> lexmark
[12:09] <don> i cant install anything but what it allready has
[12:09] <Linux_Galore> lexmark have a open source project running around, I saw it last week
[12:09] <Linux_Galore> I think its to compete against HP's open source website
[12:09] <don> it sould work  but this one  needs it own dvrs dic  ha hhhha
[12:10] <Linux_Galore> if you want to configure your printer the lazy way is to use kprinter
[12:10] <Tux2B> does anyone know about setting up FTP servers with wu-ftp? I am trying to install it on an ubuntu computer but I have some problems with it
[12:10] <don> wonder if wine can run driver for printer
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> don: if the lexmark printer has a postscript engine you should be able to use a cups hp driver
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> ie good printer all have a postscript engine
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> printers*
[12:12] <don> ok i have not tried with 7.04 but did not on 6.06
[12:12] <mehdi> hello evry body,
[12:12] <don> i am having  fun anyway
[12:12] <Linux_Galore> don: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[12:13] <don> most of linux dont let me install  anything
[12:14] <mehdi> Linux_Galore: do u now how setup a macromedia flash player?
[12:14] <Linux_Galore> I find all the enterprise grade printers work fine in Linux its just the cheap $30-$50 printer that seem to have issues ie they dont have a postscript engine so need a huge driver in the machine to do the work
[12:14] <Linux_Galore> !flash
[12:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:14] <don> tried flash player wont  install on any i tried
[12:15] <don> I can do anything with windows i am learnig linux now
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> don: go to the adobe.com  web page download the flash plugin unpack it then just copy it to /home/user_name/.mozilla/plugins file
[12:16] <don> I will check out flash again
[12:16] <A_A> how do i make a grub boot disk in kubuntu ?
[12:17] <atidem> A_A: with grub-floppy
[12:17] <fdoving> A_A: use the 'grub-floppy' command in konsole.
[12:17] <don> i doownloaded file  it is in home now
[12:18] <A_A> cheers
[12:18] <don> i have to install it
[12:19] <don> it in home how make work?
[12:19] <Linx> what was the file?
[12:20] <don> Ill try to copy file to what you said
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> A_A: or use the mkboot tool
[12:20] <don> I love linux I just wish I was not so stupid with it
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> !bootdisk
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> nice little step by step guide for making a boot floppy -> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> someone gave me a floppy recently with a file on it, one small problem I dont have an systems with floppies anymore
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> any*
[12:31] <don> What folder does flash need to be in?
[12:33] <JohnFlux_> don: /home/gordon
[12:33] <MementoMori> I have a laptop with kubuntu feisty and an ati video card (using fglrx driver): what's the better betwen beryl and compiz?
[12:33] <JohnFlux_> !flash | don
[12:33] <ubotu> don: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:33] <JohnFlux_> !beryl MementoMori
[12:33] <JohnFlux_> !beryl | MementoMori
[12:34] <ubotu> MementoMori: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:34] <don> flash player
[12:34] <JohnFlux_> don: click on the link ubotu gave you
[12:34] <don> i haave it it just sits there
[12:34] <JohnFlux_> ..
[12:35] <don> ok
[12:35] <blekos> i have donwloaded ufo_alien_invasion, and there are a make and a makefile, what am i supposed to do?
[12:35] <JohnFlux> !compiling
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:35] <JohnFlux> blekos: ^^
[12:37] <mogens> hi guys... Anyone had problems installing skype in kubuntu? Tried with automatix and manually with apt, but cant get passed the license agreement as it seems impossible to select <Ok> in bottom
[12:37] <MementoMori> !libberylsettings0-kconfig
[12:37] <MementoMori> !libberylsettings0-kconfig
[12:37] <JohnFlux> MementoMori: you want to find that file?
[12:37] <aleksanteri> where are the kde color themes located at?
[12:37] <AndrewB> MementoMori: I love the nick :D
[12:38] <JohnFlux> mogens: why can't you select it?
[12:38] <MementoMori> JohnFlux: It's a suggested package....... I would like to know what it is
[12:38] <mogens> that's what i can't figure out
[12:38] <mogens> any special button for it?
[12:38] <JohnFlux> blekos: still there?
[12:38] <MementoMori> AndrewB: thanks
[12:38] <JohnFlux> mogens: ...
[12:39] <JohnFlux> !skype | mogens
[12:39] <ubotu> mogens: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:39] <JohnFlux> mogens: maybe that will help?
[12:39] <AndrewB> :)
[12:40] <JohnFlux> blekos: hello?
[12:40] <MementoMori> i'm going to install beryl: is libberylsettings0-kconfig useful?
[12:40] <blekos> yes
[12:40] <blekos> still here
[12:41] <MementoMori> sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-kubuntu beryl-manager emerald-themes libberylsettings0-kconfig
[12:41] <JohnFlux> blekos: there's a better way than doing it from source, if you don't mind downloading it again
[12:41] <aleksanteri> !schemes
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <MementoMori> am I missing something?
[12:41] <blekos> np, broadband is here :))
[12:41] <JohnFlux> MementoMori: try it and see? :)
[12:41] <blekos> mementomori why not use sudo aptitude?
[12:42] <mogens> right... I did add the skype repository to sources, updated and installed with apt. I get the skype end user license agreement in console window, but can't get passes that window...
[12:42] <aleksanteri> where are the kde color themes located at?
[12:42] <blekos> johnflux what should i download?
[12:42] <JohnFlux> blekos: http://abi-wg.de/yann/ufoai-v2/00README
[12:43] <JohnFlux> blekos: do you know how to add a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:43] <mogens> just thought that it might be a kde/kubuntu bug or something
[12:43] <blekos> yes np
[12:43] <blekos> either sudo kwrite or from the manager
[12:43] <JohnFlux> blekos: yep
[12:44] <JohnFlux> blekos: add the line it says to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <MementoMori> JohnFlux: I dont want to break the system.......
[12:44] <tuco> guys morning. Any of you managed to run Beryl using an ATI card (mine is X1400)?
[12:44] <JohnFlux> blekos: then use the package manager (or command line) to install ufoai
[12:44] <pag> aleksanteri, do you mean those located at /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ ?
[12:45] <blekos> ok, i'll do so
[12:45] <aleksanteri> pag: no, the ones which the user saves
[12:45] <aleksanteri> (i want to export mine)
[12:46] <pag> aleksanteri, ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ maybe?
[12:46] <blekos> do u think beryl worths it?
[12:46] <aleksanteri> pag: yeah, thanks :)
[12:46] <pag> np :)
[12:48] <JohnFlux> blekos: not in kde
[12:48] <JohnFlux> blekos: best to be patient and wait for kde4 :-)
[12:49] <JohnFlux> (beryl wise)
[12:49] <JohnFlux> imho
[12:50] <blekos> have tried the kde4 yet?
[12:50] <blekos> or is it too messy?
[12:51] <Simeon_H> have you called Jenny yet?
[12:51] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: It's pretty messy :/
[12:51] <blekos> oh i c
[12:51] <blekos> is it true it will come out be the end of '07?
[12:51] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: Impossible to tell for sure, but it's looking likely.
[12:52] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: Some parts will be missing/ primitive, though.
[12:52] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: It should be much better by the time KDE 4.1 is released =)
[12:54] <blekos> :)
[12:55] <jussi01> blekos: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software. A release date has been scheduled for 23 October 2007.[1] 
[12:56] <blekos> i hope the transition to be smooth...
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> there is a kde4 live cd running around based on suse
[12:57] <blekos> is there any obvious change?
[12:58] <blekos> i mean if i downloaded will i c smg or the major work is in the bckgroung?
[01:02] <mogens> Hi again... Still with my skype issue. Uploaded a screenshot of where i am install process:
[01:02] <mogens> http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/4863fb1567713
[01:02] <mogens> here is where i can't select <Ok>
[01:03] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: Mainly in the background.  The changes in the foreground are largely for the worse (e.g. there is no desktop for wallpaper, icons etc).
[01:04] <SSJ_GZ> blekos: Although some of the apps (ksysguard, kdegames, krunner) are visibly different and in pretty good shape.
[01:10] <cox377_> does anyone here do mysql?
[01:13] <tuco> How can I reactivate icons in the system tray please?
[01:17] <mc__> cox377_: yes
[01:17] <mc__> cox377_: simply ask your real question please
[01:18] <icecruncher> my debsig verifivcaion is failing for each package downloaded with apt and all others. any way on how to turn it of, or fix it?
[01:18] <cox377_> mc__: sorry mate, just seen your msg
[01:18] <cox377_> I'm trying to install mysql and get it up and running
[01:18] <cox377_> but i fall @ the first hurdle
[01:18] <cox377_> when i go to make a password for the root users i get this msg
[01:19] <cox377_> mysqladmin -uroot password 'new-password'
[01:19] <cox377_> i get
[01:19] <cox377_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[01:19] <cox377_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[01:19] <cox377_> when ever i seem to try anything i get access denied
[01:20] <cox377_> I've tried
[01:20] <cox377_> mysqladmin -u root password your-new-password
[01:20] <cox377_> still the same
[01:20] <Tm_T> !fi | tuukka
[01:20] <ubotu> tuukka: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[01:20] <mc__> cox377_:  what happens if you type mysql -u root mysql
[01:22] <cox377_> mc__: i get this msg
[01:22] <cox377_> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[01:22] <stoft> cox377_: try "sudo mysqladmin password newpassword"
[01:22] <mc__> cox377_: alright,but you know your root password?
[01:22] <cox377_> stoft: anbd where newpassword is put my new password?
[01:22] <mweijts> !firewall
[01:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:22] <stoft> cox377_: exactly
[01:22] <cox377_> mc__: is that the root password for mysql or for my kubunu machine?
[01:23] <icecruncher> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:23] <mc__> cox377_: for mysql
[01:23] <cox377_> mc__: well i'm trying to set one, (i think)
[01:23] <cox377_> stoft: when i run your command i get
[01:23] <cox377_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[01:23] <cox377_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[01:23] <mc__> cox377_:  if you havent set one you should be able to connect without a pw
[01:24] <cox377_> thing is, i'm trying to install fluxbox install.. when i come upto this command in the install how to it gives a simlar msg
[01:24] <cox377_> mysqladmin -uroot -p create torrentflux
[01:24] <cox377_> thats the command i use to create the new db
[01:25] <cox377_> but i get the following msg
[01:25] <cox377_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[01:25] <cox377_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[01:25] <cox377_> i hope i'm being clear enough
[01:25] <stoft> cox377_: ok, think I get the prob now, wasn't reading the man page correctly do: "mysqladmin -uroot -p password newpassword" where newpassword is your newpassword and you will then be prompted for your old password
[01:26] <cox377_> stoft: i get this msg when i do that
[01:26] <cox377_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[01:26] <cox377_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[01:26] <cox377_> does that no states that i'm now running with a root password?
[01:27] <cox377_> now*
[01:27] <cox377_> stoft: it didnt ask for a new password either, it just said 'enter password'
[01:27] <stoft> and what did you write?
[01:27] <cox377_> well the only password that i would have ever put for this
[01:29] <cox377_> are we stumped for ideas?
[01:30] <stoft> cox377_: when installing mysql did you configure a password for root? (I can't remember if you're prompted for it when installing mysql)
[01:30] <cox377_> stoft: nope, it just installs
[01:30] <cox377_> stoft: it didnt prompt for root pass
[01:31] <stoft> cox377_: the NO and the YES just mean that you are either trying to connect to mysql without using or using a password.
[01:32] <stoft> cox377_: ok. what happens if you do "mysql -u root"?
[01:32] <crazy_bus> kopete is really annoying.  I have to type a password for the wallet and that works.  But for some reason the wallet password doesn't work.  I've checked that its the right password.  But everytime I still have to enter my messenger password manualy.  How can I fix this?
[01:32] <cox377_> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[01:33] <stoft> ok, not sure why you are getting that, you shouldn't be.
[01:33] <cox377_> stoft: are we stumped?
[01:34] <stoft> I am... hmm... which version of mysql is it?
[01:35] <cox377_> stoft: Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.38-0ubuntu1)
[01:35] <cox377_> thats what came up from the install
[01:36] <stoft> ok, then at least we have the same version
[01:36] <cox377_> yp
[01:36] <cox377_> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling like 3 times
[01:37] <Karmuncol> wenas :D
[01:37] <stoft> cox377_: wait a sec.... try doing "mysql -u root -p" and then entering the new password you were trying to set...
[01:37] <Karmuncol> any body speak spanish?
[01:37] <icecruncher> !spanish | Karmuncol
[01:37] <ubotu> Karmuncol: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:37] <Karmuncol> sorry y thanks :D
[01:38] <cox377_> stoft: i get this msg
[01:38] <cox377_> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:38] <stoft> and you entered the password when prompted for it and not before?
[01:38] <cox377_> yeh, when it said enter password
[01:38] <stoft> k
[01:39] <stoft> cox377_: it seems to me that somehow you managed to set a password for "root" in mysql... but obviously you have no idea what it is.
[01:40] <cox377_> i've only used one password
[01:40] <cox377_> thats the weird thin
[01:40] <stoft> cox377_: try "mysql -u root -p" and enter that password when prompted for it. just in case
[01:41] <cox377_> still same error
[01:41] <stoft> cox377_: when you deinstalled/reinstalled, did you use the --purge flag?
[01:43] <cox377_> stoft: umm whats that mate?
[01:43] <stoft> ah... did you use adept to reinstall?
[01:43] <cox377_> nah, i did
[01:43] <cox377_> sudo apt-get remove mysql-server
[01:44] <cox377_> shall i do sudo apt-get remove mysql-server --purge
[01:44] <cox377_> ?
[01:45] <stoft> to remove the configuration as well, yes, (not sure of the order, I always put --purge between remove and the package name), but you can probably accomplish the same thing running "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0"
[01:45] <cox377_> when running dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 do i need to uninstall?
[01:46] <stoft> cox377_: no, hopefully it will reset your configuration though (including the password for root)
[01:46] <cox377_> it asks m for a new password
[01:46] <cox377_> right lets see
[01:47] <cox377_> stoft: just ran this command
[01:47] <cox377_> mysqladmin -uroot -p create torrentflux
[01:47] <cox377_> and it didnt give any errors.
[01:47] <stoft> great!
[01:48] <cox377_> 2 secs
[01:50] <sageLi_> hi
[01:50] <jari> morjens. Pikkasen kaipaisin apuja.. Olen uusi kubuntu kyttj ja osaan kyll kytt googlea, mutta yhteen asiaan en ole lytnyt ratkaisua.. Miten voin avata kubuntulla PDF tiedoston joka on DRM suojattu. Acrobat ei sit tue.. Kirjaston verkkolainat ovat tss jrjettmss muodossa..
[01:51] <stoft> !fi | jari
[01:51] <ubotu> jari: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[01:53] <Aaronfromchina> Hello. :)
[01:53] <Ubuntu_Liono> help
[01:54] <llutz> hi
[01:54] <sageLi_> I installed kubuntu 7.04 at sony vaio sz2. Connected to the internet, updated system reloads laptop, entered my login and password, a black screen (1s) and ... Again, "please enter login and password "
[01:54] <jari> sorry. I am a new linux user and i need little help. Is there any way to open PDF files with DRM protection. Acrobat does not support that function. My netlibrary uses that stupid protocol... And sorry my bad english..
[01:54] <Aaronfromchina> I was thinking to configure a media player on KDE. Is Kopete the best choice?
[01:55] <trpr> i thought that was a Instant Messaging client, not a media player
[01:55] <Ubuntu_Liono> does anyone know how to get my fans to work? My Powerbook is running extremely hot.
[01:55] <Aaronfromchina> trotek: sorry. haha. it's Amarok.
[01:56] <trpr> my preference is kaffeine but amarok is a nice program if you like that sort of interface
[01:56] <jari> Does anyone knows solution for PDf/DRM problem??
[01:57] <Aaronfromchina> trotek: I'm not care of interface. Just want it to support diverse codecs. :)
[01:57] <stoeptegel> Aaronfromchina: yeah, kopete is for IM, you could try kmplayer or kaffeine though
[01:57] <sdfaaaaaaaaaaaaa> hi
[01:57] <sageLi_> sdfaaaaaaaaaaaaa: hi
[01:58] <sdfaaaaaaaaaaaaa> how can i know what is my platform
[01:58] <Aaronfromchina> hi
[01:58] <trpr> Aaronfromchina: the codec support should be the same for all the players. for example, i am pretty certain kaffeine and mplayer share codecs, etc
[01:58] <Aaronfromchina> platform,,,, you mean ubuntu/fedora, or KDE/gnome?
[01:59] <sdf> when wat to download ubuntu ask me which platfor for your computer  intel , 64 bit
[01:59] <sdf> pentium xt
[01:59] <Aaronfromchina> trpr: I see. So like totem needs libxine-extracodecs, Amarzok also need it.
[01:59] <sdf> i don tknow
[01:59] <Aaronfromchina> sdf: are you using Intel processor?
[02:00] <sdf> ya
[02:00] <Aaronfromchina> sdf: what's the model?
[02:00] <sdf> i wan tprogram for know that
[02:00] <sdf> can you tell me any program?
[02:00] <Aaronfromchina> reboot, and pause at the start screen. you'll see it.
[02:01] <trpr> unless its a new 64bit processor, your platform is i386
[02:01] <Aaronfromchina> I agree.
[02:01] <sdf> ok
[02:01] <pollyo> Hello
[02:01] <sdf> i ll try
[02:02] <pollyo> Any idea the time frame that they stated Kubuntu after the release of Ubuntu?
[02:03] <jari> I am a new linux user and i need little help. Is there any way to open PDF files with DRM protection. Acrobat does not support that function. My netlibrary uses that stupid protocol... And sorry my bad english..
[02:03] <pollyo> jari: Does the official PDF reader support it?
[02:04] <stoeptegel> Aaronfromchina: myah, but totem uses gnome right?
[02:04] <Aaronfromchina> steven_: ya
[02:04] <Aaronfromchina> some tells me to use Kaffeine Player.
[02:05] <Aaronfromchina> but it pops : a problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: drvc.so
[02:05] <stoeptegel> Aaronfromchina: kaffeine is cool, it works well too
[02:05] <jussi01> jari: are you finnish?
[02:06] <trpr> i remember having popping sound w/ kaffeine. i can't remember how i fixed it :(
[02:06] <stoeptegel> personally i only do kmplayer with maplayer engine for the HD stuff
[02:06] <stoeptegel> *mplayer
[02:06] <mrcreativity> i need help
[02:07] <mrcreativity> i cant seem to install kubuntu on my desktop
[02:07] <mrcreativity> when i install, i have to start in safe video mode
[02:07] <mrcreativity> the normal mode just shows a messed up display after boot
[02:08] <jussi01> mrcreativity: and what happens when you install from safe mode?
[02:08] <mrcreativity> it starts up normally, and after installing everything is fine.
[02:08] <mrcreativity> but the resolution is too low
[02:09] <jussi01> mrcreativity: what sort of vidoe card do you have?
[02:09] <mrcreativity> nvidia 6600 gt
[02:09] <mrcreativity> i tried installing the drivers from adept installer
[02:09] <mrcreativity> but after i reboot, i get that messed up screen again
[02:10] <jussi01> mrcreativity: which drivers did you install?
[02:10] <Aaronfromchina> I can't figure it out either, I'm using nvidia geforce 6200 turbor. I use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  manually.
[02:11] <mrcreativity> the ones in the reposiroty that i access thru adpet installer
[02:11] <mrcreativity> there were 2,
[02:11] <mrcreativity> let me check and tell u which ones
[02:11] <mrcreativity> ones Nvidia x.org binary driver and the other is nvidia x.org legacy binary driver
[02:12] <mrcreativity> can u please help me
[02:12] <jussi01> IIRC you need to go to terminal and sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new  and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:12] <korobase> I want search a environment parameter But It not in the /etc/profile,~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile.
[02:12] <jussi01> mrcreativity: remove both of the ones you installed first, before doing that
[02:12] <Aaronfromchina> jussi01: is it for all nvidia cards?
[02:12] <korobase> Any other place can restore this?
[02:12] <mrcreativity> i just did a fresh install
[02:13] <jussi01> Aaronfromchina: no, just the newer ones...
[02:13] <korobase> Hi,all.Help me please!!!!!
[02:13] <jussi01> aa
[02:13] <mrcreativity> the thing is that once i install the ones from the adept installer, i cant get into kubuntu at all except thru recovery mode and i have no idea what to do next
[02:13] <korobase> I want search a environment parameter But It not in the /etc/profile,~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile.
[02:13] <korobase> Any other place can restore this?
[02:13] <mrcreativity> i have to reinstall kubuntu all over again
[02:13] <jussi01> mrcreativity: are you in kubuntu now?
[02:13] <mrcreativity> yes i am
[02:13] <mrcreativity> just did a fresh install
[02:14] <mrcreativity> i have never been able to install linux on this machine
[02:14] <mrcreativity> of any kind
[02:14] <mrcreativity> i always get the messed up screen
[02:15] <jussi01> ok, if you get stuck go to recovery mode, do sudo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa driver
[02:15] <jussi01> oops
[02:15] <jussi01> just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] <jussi01> if you get stuck
[02:15] <mrcreativity> but wont that mess up all the drivers? i did that the last time
[02:15] <mrcreativity> i could boot up in peace
[02:16] <mrcreativity> ill try the drivers u mentioned
[02:16] <mrcreativity> and then come back
[02:16] <mrcreativity> i hope it works
[02:16] <jussi01> mrcreativity: good luck, i hope things work for you
[02:16] <mrcreativity> my video is a pretty run of the mill card
[02:16] <mrcreativity> jussi01: in case it doesnt, what can i do?
[02:16] <mrcreativity> what do u think is causing the problem?
[02:17] <mrcreativity> and why does uit show 61hz as the frequency of my monitor?
[02:17] <levon> im banging my head against the wall one by one my hairs will fall, as i turn i bash in my teeth for i dread to speak, and i will not figure out how to fix my problem, there fore i will not sleep
[02:17] <jussi01> mrcreativity: if it doesnt work what i just mentioned - do the reconfigure command and then select vesa and we can figure it out then...
[02:17] <mrcreativity> ok. thanks 8
[02:17] <mrcreativity> m8
[02:18] <jussi01> mrcreativity: so now you need sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new  and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:18] <jussi01> Aaronfromchina: they should work for you too... I make no garatees though
[02:19] <levon> jussi01 where do i buy the program cross platform or cross power something or other
[02:19] <levon> cross office
[02:19] <mrcreativity> jussi01: yes.
[02:19] <jussi01> levon: www.codeweavers.com
[02:19] <sdf> hi again
[02:20] <sdf> my processor is
[02:20] <levon> okay and its cross office right
[02:20] <Aaronfromchina> jussi01: I did install nvidia driver, but it just doesn't work. So I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it works OK. :)
[02:20] <jussi01> levon: crossover office
[02:20] <atidem> anyone knows if is there a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/72806
[02:20] <jussi01> Aaronfromchina: well done :D
[02:20] <levon> aww okay thank you
[02:20] <sdf> intel(R) celeron(R) cpu 2.40GHz
[02:20] <Aaronfromchina> jussi01: cheers.
[02:20] <Aaronfromchina> sdf: It's i386 platform
[02:20] <sdf> what is the platform of my computer???
[02:21] <sdf> ok
[02:21] <sdf> thank you
[02:21] <Aaronfromchina> sdf: no problem. :)
[02:22] <sdf> is fedora core 6 better that ubuntu?
[02:22] <pollyo> sdf: In what way?
[02:22] <llutz> sdf: no distro is _better_ than another, they are just different in some ways
[02:23] <pollyo> sdf: "Does it work for you"?
[02:23] <llutz> sdf: it depends on your needs, hardware, use, knowledge etc.
[02:23] <sdf> what are the differencies between fedora and ubuntu?
[02:23] <Aaronfromchina> personally, I like ubuntu.
[02:24] <sdf> wh do you like it?
[02:24] <sdf> why*
[02:24] <mrcreativity> jussi01: what does sudo nvidia-glx-config enable do?
[02:24] <sc0tch> Anyone experience a disappearing knetwork-manager? It was working fine, suddenly it disappeared from the panel, and also will not run from icon.
[02:25] <levon> i like kbuntu but i dont like it also if i have to set up computers to use khmer for the default languge cambodian and translate www.rfa.org/khmer its a pain in my arse
[02:25] <Aaronfromchina> first, it's faster than FC,
[02:25] <sdf> second?
[02:25] <Aaronfromchina> seond, because of i'm a newbie, and I don't know how to configure much things, I think ubuntu is easier to use
[02:26] <mrcreativity> jussi01: its done. i have installed the driver and done sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:26] <jussi01> mrcreativity: enabls the configurability of it
[02:26] <mrcreativity> should i restart x server now?
[02:26] <sdf> third?
[02:26] <Aaronfromchina> I still can't play media on KDE.
[02:26] <mrcreativity> jussi01: but after i type in sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, i go a msg about setting being bacued up
[02:27] <blckcts> Anyone that knows how to enable Theater Mode on Ati radeon...?
[02:27] <stoft> sdf: personally I like ubuntu because: 1) it's built on Debian, and I like Debian (for its package management and its "it's ready when it's ready" philosophy), 2) because most things work out of the box and 3) I like the ubuntu philosophy
[02:27] <jussi01> mrcreativity: restart now...
[02:27] <Aaronfromchina> third, ubuntu has a freind community. I often can work out my problem thanks to people's help. :)
[02:28] <sdf> stoft:thank you
[02:28] <sdf> and thank for all guys
[02:28] <Aaronfromchina> last but not the least, ubuntu is toally free, No charged Enterprice version (or something else). I don't like the different treatment. :(
[02:29] <Aaronfromchina> my pleasure. :)
[02:29] <stoft> np
[02:31] <A_A> blackbox doesnt seem to open any ideas as to why ?
[02:32] <A_A> i type blackbox into run and nothing happens
[02:34] <Aaronfromchina> Kubuntu documents only mentions to install libxine-extracocdes for supprorting multimedia codecs. I did it, but Kaffeine cann't  a rmvb format saying codecs missing.
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> what is that package that automatically sets up an ip and shares the internet via my second ethernet card if a client connects?
[02:36] <ubuntu__> Im in trouble
[02:38] <AdrenaliN198306> Hi, just a simple question, im trying to run tail -f at startup to echo /var/log/messages to /dev/tty12 however the script hangs, I beleive this is due to the fact you normally run tail in the foreground and ctrl c to close, Can someone please tell me how to run it in a scipt?
[02:39] <AdrenaliN198306> Anyone?
[02:40] <ubuntu__> I was helped last night and installed nvidia drivers. When I was signaled to restart x after the driver was installed..... I can no longer boot into Feisty
[02:40] <ubuntu__> now I am on the Live CD
[02:41] <stoft> AdrenaliN198306: you should be able to background it by adding " &" to the end of the tail command
[02:41] <ubuntu__> sorry, I  cant boot into kde
[02:41] <eleazar> Hello ... anyone awake?
[02:41] <eleazar> I have a problem with read/write permissions.
[02:41] <stoft> AdrenaliN198306: try playing with it in your terminal
[02:41] <AdrenaliN198306> ok thanks Ill try the &
[02:41] <pollyo> Hello
[02:41] <jussi01> ubuntu__: restart in recovery mode, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa - that will return you to the pre- driver install state
[02:42] <pollyo> What program for kde is used for digital cameras?
[02:42] <eleazar> digiKam
[02:42] <ubuntu__> ahh cool, your the guy that helped me... I'm michael
[02:42] <pollyo> Thanks
[02:42] <eleazar> I need to set the permissions on a mounted hdd to allow myself to write to the bloody thing.
[02:42] <sdf> what is the programming language that kubuntu kernel be code??
[02:42] <ubuntu__> it was like 3 or 3:;;30 last night am
[02:42] <jussi01> ubuntu__: heh ok
[02:43] <sdf> and how can i write this code?
[02:43] <AdrenaliN198306> Also, does anyone know where I can find a driver for an ATI mobility radeon 7500 that works with ubuntu?
[02:43] <jussi01> mrcreativity: how did it go?
[02:43] <mrcreativity> jussi01: im back
[02:43] <mrcreativity> it didnt work
[02:43] <jussi01> oh, now that sucks...
[02:43] <mrcreativity> i just a blank scree with a blinking cursor on the top left corner
[02:43] <mrcreativity> im starting in recovery mode now
[02:43] <ubuntu__> same here,  lol
[02:44] <jussi01> Ill slap jdong later... (he's the one who gave me those instructions... )
[02:44] <jussi01> :D
[02:44] <mrcreativity> ok.
[02:44] <mrcreativity> jussi01: what should i do now?
[02:44] <jussi01> mrcreativity: so you did the reconfigure of xorg?
[02:44] <mrcreativity> that dpkg thing?
[02:44] <jussi01> yeah...
[02:44] <mrcreativity> one moment please...
[02:44] <jussi01> select the vesa driver
[02:45] <sdf>  what is the programming language that kubuntu kernel be code??
[02:45] <trpr> sdf: its C. download the source and start mucking around, if you really know what you are doing :p
[02:45] <sdf> any one answer please
[02:45] <jussi01> sdf: why?
[02:45] <sdf> curious
[02:46] <sdf> trpr:where can i find the source?
[02:46] <trpr> kernel.org
[02:46] <jussi01> sdf: thats a little offtopic, try to keep it on topic about support.
[02:46] <ubuntu___> hello
[02:46] <sdf> ok
[02:46] <Hobbsee> sdf: c++, c, python, any other languages you'd care to name
[02:46] <ubuntu___> preved amerikanchegy
[02:46] <mrcreativity> jussi01: whats kernel frambuffer device interface?
[02:47] <dak> anyone get error running gtk apps in kubuntu
[02:47] <sdf> trpr:what do you mean with  "start mucking around"??
[02:47] <dak> "pix map must have colormap"
[02:47] <dak> i installed gkt and it dont fix it
[02:48] <tom__> hi, anyone have a intel 950 gfx?
[02:48] <trpr> sdf: it is an expression. it just implies playing around with something without a thorough understanding of how it works.
[02:48] <mrcreativity> jussi01: ok...i tried reconfiguring the xorg
[02:48] <jussi01> tom__: I dont, but i have the intel 915
[02:48] <sdf> ok
[02:49] <Tm_T> kids, stop nickspam
[02:49] <mrcreativity> but i get this msg that says overwriting possibly cutomised configuration file
[02:49] <sdf> trpr:can you give me the link??
[02:50] <jussi01> mrcreativity: yes, it should say that
[02:50] <mrcreativity> cool. now im rebooting
[02:50] <tom__> jussi01: have you tried running ut2004?
[02:51] <jussi01> tom__: no, but i do run enemy territory and tremulous
[02:51] <mrcreativity> jussi01: i got the gui
[02:51] <jussi01> mrcreativity: excellent :D
[02:51] <tom__> jussi01: and they work ok?
[02:51] <jussi01> tom__: beautifully
[02:51] <tom__> jussi01: great thanks
[02:52] <mrcreativity> jussi01: any suggestions on what i should do now
[02:52] <jussi01> mrcreativity: none at all except hope someone with a nvidia card comes along...
[02:53] <jussi01> I have intel card so Im not really sure..
[02:53] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: what's the problem?
[02:53] <mrcreativity> i cant seem to use nvidia drivers with kubuntu
[02:53] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:53] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: 7.04 ?
[02:53] <mrcreativity> everytime i try to install using the normal mode, i get a messed up screen
[02:53] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: yes
[02:53] <mrcreativity> i need to select safe video mode to install
[02:54] <cox377_> stoft: all seems to be working great, torrentflux that is
[02:54] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: and what model of nvidia?
[02:54] <mrcreativity> and now, when jussi01 helped me install drivers, i got nothing but a blank screen
[02:54] <stoft> cox377_: great, have fun! :)
[02:54] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: XFX Geforce 6600GT 128
[02:54] <cox377_> stoft: N1 dude
[02:54] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: hmm, did you install nvidia-glx-new ?
[02:54] <mrcreativity> yes i did
[02:55] <Tm_T> hm, and you did change xorg.conf?
[02:55] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: change it how?
[02:55] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: to use nvidia driver
[02:55] <mrcreativity> can u tell me how to do that please
[02:56] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: sure, do you have a backup of xorg.conf done?
[02:56] <mrcreativity> i think so,
[02:56] <Tm_T> ok, then we go directly to editing
[02:56] <mrcreativity> i did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and i think it made a backup
[02:57] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ok, now we doublecheck you do have nvidia enabled: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in konsole
[02:57] <mrcreativity> is there any other way of making a backup?
[02:57] <Tm_T> sure there is, just copy :)
[02:58] <mrcreativity> oh
[02:58] <mrcreativity> let me try backing up first
[02:58] <mrcreativity> i think i see 3 backups
[02:59] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ok, do one more ;)
[02:59] <mrcreativity> ok
[02:59] <mrcreativity> where do i copy it?
[02:59] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: where ever you like, it's for you
[02:59] <mrcreativity> cool
[03:00] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: anyway, when you do open that conf, just check that in Section "Device" there's Driver "nvidia" (and no other drivers mentioned in same section)
[03:00] <asterix14> pplease kubuntu of german ?
[03:00] <jussi01> !de
[03:00] <amorphous_> anyone know anything about the epson cx3600 not working in feisty (using cups)? Cant find much online yet, but it worked perfectly in edgy (was I a fool to migrate???
[03:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:00] <mrcreativity> i copied it to the desktop, is that ok?
[03:01] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: sure it is
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:01] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: :)
[03:02] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: yes, it says nvidia
[03:02] <mrcreativity> do u think there could be something about monitor settings?
[03:03] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ok, then, to make it safe, reboot system, if/when it fails to work, paste whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[03:04] <Kubuntu> how can I update wlassistant??
[03:04] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: under monitor and display settings, should i select nvidia?
[03:04] <mrcreativity> ok...im rebooting now
[03:05] <mrcreativity> hmm...
[03:05] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: please bear with me
[03:06] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: no I'm not a bear, though somewhat hairy at times
[03:06] <mrcreativity> lol
[03:06] <chx> Trying to install feisty from a usb stick and got as far running the installer from the stick, I switch to another TTY, I try to mount /dev/sdc1 (dmesg tells me that's my stick) and mount /dev/sdc1 /cdrom says Invalid argument. Tried -t fat , tried /mnt, no dice. Could this be maybe codepage related? from extensive googlin' that's an idea but dunno how to verify or solve
[03:06] <amorphous_> no-one know anything about printers :/... gnome wont even detect my printer - at least kde sees it - even if it can't get it going!!!
[03:06] <mrcreativity> ok...i got the screen...i think i saw an nvidia splash screen
[03:06] <Tm_T> !printer
[03:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:07] <Tm_T> amorphous_: look that
[03:07] <mrcreativity> i see the gui now
[03:07] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: so it works?
[03:07] <michael> ok
[03:07] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: yes, but the resolution is still low
[03:07] <BluesKaj> my KMix/amarok is unusable..unfortunately i thought I'd try oss-linux but that program broke the ausio drivers ...I got ris of oss-linux ok but now the audio drivers for kmix/amarok are missing
[03:07] <michael> back up and running
[03:08] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ok, so atleast it works :)
[03:08] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: hmm, can you control resolution in systemsettings?
[03:08] <mrcreativity> yes it does, but it was working all along
[03:08] <Gamic> You can
[03:08] <michael> wasnt expecting to reconfigure every little thing in my computer
[03:08] <mrcreativity> yes, but the highest is still onlt 1024x768
[03:08] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: hmm, and how high it should be?
[03:09] <bomber> i just installed feisty and want to install nvidia drivers
[03:09] <mrcreativity> well, i usually use quite higher, more than 1152x864 at times..
[03:09] <michael> my wireless key board quit working, so I have a ps/2 pluged in
[03:09] <mrcreativity> can that be done
[03:09] <mrcreativity> im talking about windows here
[03:09] <Kubuntu> How can you print with cups?
[03:09] <mario> hi Im mario from COLOMBIA ??????????
[03:09] <michael> bomber: dude yopu have no idea what you are asking
[03:09] <Kubuntu> And should sudo apt-get autoremove delete 220 packages??
[03:10] <bomber> im asking for instructions on installing nvidia drivers
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mrcreativity> i changed monitor settings...
[03:10] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ok, try to add that resolution manually to xrog.conf?
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <Kubuntu> Is it bad to remove 205 packages?
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mrcreativity> trying to log off and log back in
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <michael> almost impssible in feisty
[03:10] <bomber> if thats possible
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????
[03:10] <mario> Who is from latin america??????????Who is from latin america??????????
[03:11] <bomber> wow ... how come?
[03:11] <Kubuntu> Will my system stop working after typing sudo apt-get autoremove?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:11] <michael> no idea, but I know of no one that has been able to do it yet
[03:11] <bomber> crapola
[03:11] <michael> yeah, dont follow the normal instructions on the webpage
[03:12] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: let me try that
[03:12] <nflava> !resolution
[03:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:12] <michael> it will give you a blank screen during startup
[03:12] <bomber> i tried that and downed my system
[03:12] <bomber> had to reinsatll after trying a bunch of stuff
[03:12] <michael> same here
[03:12] <Kubuntu> I have a windows problem, I need help.
[03:12] <bomber> i got to be able to get x working under root but not as a user so i reinstalled
[03:13] <Kubuntu> How do I remove a windows partion?
[03:13] <bomber> keep me in mind if you figure it out and i'll do the same... please
[03:13] <michael> yopu got it
[03:14] <bomber> Kubuntu: do you mean for good or just so you dont see it in linux?
[03:14] <Kubuntu> Can I see a windows partion in linux?
[03:14] <Gamic> You can
[03:14] <bomber> yes indeedy
[03:14] <michael> jussi01is hleping me now with this issue
[03:15] <Gamic> You can even write to ntfs windows partitions now.
[03:15] <bomber> you cant write to a ntfs partition but you can view it and use files
[03:15] <bomber> ohhhhh realllyyyy
[03:15] <Kubuntu> I want to copy files first
[03:15] <bomber> sweet
[03:15] <Kubuntu> I want to copy everything on a ntfs partion (windows) to kubuntu.
[03:15] <Kubuntu> How?
[03:15] <sdf> the mp3 songs don t run
[03:15] <michael> jussi01: back up and running
[03:15] <sdf> what can i do??
[03:16] <sagematt> hello
[03:16] <Tm_T> !mp3 | sdf
[03:16] <ubotu> sdf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <Gamic> ok, this will take some time to explain, kubuntu, so bare with me
[03:16] <Kubuntu> sdf sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:16] <sagematt> how do I map the Windows key to KDE "Start menu"?
[03:16] <Kubuntu> ok
[03:16] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: it works
[03:16] <Gamic> first, I need you to type "sudo fdisk -l" into a terminal window
[03:16] <eleazar> How do I change ownership settings?
[03:16] <mrcreativity> but i still dont understand how it worked
[03:17] <Gamic> you'll get a list of paritions
[03:17] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: so now it's ok?
[03:17] <chx> is it possible that the kernel on the alternative ISO simply does not support the fat filesystem...?
[03:17] <mrcreativity> its great. thanks a lot
[03:17] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: wonderful :)
[03:17] <eleazar> How do I change ownership settings?
[03:17] <Kubuntu> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <chx> ls lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/fs/
[03:17] <chx> ext2  ext3  isofs  jbd  jfs  mbcache.ko  reiserfs  xfs
[03:17] <mrcreativity> im trying different resolutions and refresh rates
[03:17] <chx> i unpacked the initrd and this is what I see...
[03:17] <eleazar> How do I change ownership settings?
[03:18] <Tm_T> eleazar: stop repeating
[03:18] <eleazar> then can I please get an answer?
[03:18] <Tm_T> !patience | eleazar
[03:18] <ubotu> eleazar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:18] <Tm_T> eleazar: ownership of what?
[03:18] <sdf> kubuntu i had   E: Couldn't find package vlc
[03:18] <eleazar> I mounted a drive. It's owned by root. I want to change that.
[03:18] <sdf> kubuntu   what do i do
[03:18] <Kubuntu> I'm pasting the things now, I only want to acces the one on the same hardrive as linux
[03:19] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: why does it always show a refresh rate of 50
[03:19] <Gamic> Kubuntu: kk
[03:19] <mrcreativity> in windows, i use higher rates
[03:19] <Tm_T> !mount | eleazar
[03:19] <ubotu> eleazar: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:19] <eleazar> as things are now, I can't create files on the drive
[03:19] <Kubuntu> Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18240/
[03:19] <eleazar> but sudo cp will copy them across
[03:19] <eleazar> so I know i can get in, i just don't want to run as sudo the whole time
[03:19] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: hmm, interesting
[03:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> eleazar, man mount
[03:20] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: ugly workaround, uninstall kde-guidance and relogin
[03:20] <llutz> eleazar: vfat-partition? remount with umask
[03:20] <bomber> eleazar: man chown
[03:20] <Gamic> kubunutu: could you send it to me in a tell window (my connection is having problems)
[03:20] <llutz> bomber: won't work on vfat
[03:20] <bomber> ahhh
[03:20] <Kubuntu> a tell window?
[03:20] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: can i edit the xorg.conf or something?
[03:21] <yeti> is there a tool that automagically creates -deb packages from .tar.gz-archives? i don't like installing software with tar xzf because the package manager wont know about it...
[03:21] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: sure but I don't know how, so, safest bet is to do what I said unless you know what you're doing
[03:21] <llutz> yeti: easiest way: use checkinstall
[03:21] <eleazar> bomber: chown: changing ownership of `/media/share-hd1': Operation not permitted
[03:21] <Kubuntu> I'm not registrated
[03:21] <Jucato> !mount
[03:21] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:21] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: let me check what resolutions work with windows
[03:22] <Gamic> kubuntu: kk
[03:22] <mrcreativity> brb
[03:22] <llutz> eleazar: sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/share-hd1
[03:22] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: try if uninstalling kde-guidance helps, if not, just reinstall kubuntu-desktop :-P
[03:22] <Jucato> (or reinstalling kde-guidance?)
[03:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:23] <eleazar> it still won't allow me access
[03:23] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: what will happen if i unstall kde-guidance
[03:23] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: it removes set of GUI tools, including that monitor settings tool
[03:24] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: somehow it seems to mess refresh rate in some cases
[03:24] <mrcreativity> then how do i reinstall it?
[03:24] <Jucato> mrcreativity: You lose the following System Settings modules: Monitor & Display, User Management, System Services, Disks & Filesystem, Wine Configuration
[03:24] <Kubuntu> I doesn't have acces to the media folder, how to fix?
[03:24] <sdf> in case i don t found that package i want what do i do i download it then what do do???
[03:24] <sdf> how can i install the downloaded packages?
[03:24] <mrcreativity> and how do i renable it?
[03:24] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: just like you install any package
[03:24] <yeti> llutz: thank you
[03:25] <sagematt> how do I map the Windows key to KDE "Start menu"?
[03:25] <Tm_T> mrcreativity: using adept / apt-get / your choice
[03:25] <toti> Anybody here who can give me a solution why my Screen is turning white while I'm startin Compiz?
[03:25] <Frederick> folks wich is the command to start crossfire in kubuntu?
[03:26] <eleazar> sagematt: I tried that and failed. I don't think there's an easy way.
[03:27] <sagematt> kde doesn't like the windows key I guess...
[03:27] <sagematt> I'm pretty sure there should be an easy way... it can't be that hard come one...
[03:27] <sagematt> *on
[03:27] <stoft> sagematt: alt + F1 will give you the same functionality
[03:27] <Lynoure> sagematt: Hmm? you can configure it to be used as one of the meta keys
[03:27] <sagematt> stoft: so, if I wanted to change it from alt+F1 to... *ahem* something else, what should I do?
[03:28] <levon> how do i install a .deb package
[03:28] <toti> Anybody here can help me with compiz?
[03:28] <Lynoure> levon: dpkg --install packagefile
[03:28] <stoft> sagematt: tell you in a minute, it should be doable but can't find the right menu ;)
[03:28] <Aaronfromchina> dpkg -i
[03:28] <Jucato> levon: right-click on it, Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[03:28] <sagematt> stoft: thanks
[03:28] <levon> thank you
[03:28] <Lynoure> levon: oops, add  sudo  to the front of that
[03:28] <Jucato> levon: or "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>"
[03:28] <stefy_> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[03:28] <stefy_> ja
[03:28] <stefy_> sudo ...
[03:28] <Gamic|Whoops> kubuntu: type "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" into a terminal
[03:28] <levon> lol or in my case i love to just su
[03:28] <levon> u
[03:29] <levon> for money haha
[03:29] <Jucato> Gamic|Whoops: he has Ubuntu/GNOME installed?
[03:29] <Kubuntu> gamic, I mounted it from system settings
[03:29] <Kubuntu> but I can't acces the folder, it is only for root
[03:29] <levon> tired tired lol thank you
[03:29] <Gamic|Whoops> jucato: whoops :)
[03:29] <stoft> sagematt: open System Settings -> keyboard and mouse -> global shortcuts, scroll down to panel
[03:30] <sagematt> stoft: goodie, thanks a lot
[03:30] <stoft> sagematt: and change the value for "Popup Launch Menu"
[03:30] <Aaronfromchina> :)
[03:30] <stoft> np
[03:30] <Aaronfromchina> any recommended BT download tool on KDE?
[03:31] <Jucato> Aaronfromchina: KTorrent (installed by default)
[03:31] <Gamic|Whoops> kubuntu, umount it and mount it again, only this time "mount /dev/sdb1 /folder/where/you/are/mounting -o default"
[03:31] <toti> rtorrent
[03:31] <Frederick> folks how do I install crossfire in kubuntu?
[03:31] <levon> lol
[03:31] <sagematt> sagematt: Now I get it... it is using the Win key as a modifier key, so it won't let me use it by itself
[03:31] <levon> no comment
[03:31] <sagematt> whoops
[03:31] <sagematt> stoft: Now I get it... it is using the Win key as a modifier key, so it won't let me use it by itself
[03:31] <Aaronfromchina> levon: :(
[03:31] <Jucato> sagematt: yep. that's the case
[03:31] <levon> lol
[03:31] <levon> what did i do
[03:31] <Aaronfromchina> Jucato: OK. have a try.
[03:31] <Aaronfromchina> toti: OK.:)
[03:32] <stoft> Aaronfromchina: there are others as well, azureus, qtorrent e.g.
[03:32] <toti> ?
[03:32] <sagematt> I'll map Win+F1 just for the hell of it :)
[03:32] <Jucato> sagematt: Win+Space also works :)
[03:32] <Aaronfromchina> There are so many. I'll try default ktorrent first. :) thank you all :)
[03:32] <levon> holy crap
[03:32] <levon> anyone want aww never mind
[03:32] <Jucato> sagematt: of course, with Katapult... you probably won't need the K Menu that much :D
[03:33] <levon> you guys would get mad
[03:33] <levon> :P
[03:33] <levon> ill keep it for myself
[03:33] <Aaronfromchina> :)
[03:33] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: are u still there?
[03:33] <stoft> sagematt: so I just noticed, sorry, don't have a solution for you
[03:34] <stoft> sagematt: I usually don't use the menu anyways, it's quicker to type what I want than click may way through a menu... (i.e. I use Alt+F2 mostly, or have preconfigured combinations for the apps I use the most)
[03:34] <levon> haha i love this program
[03:35] <levon> errr i want to share so bad
[03:35] <stoft> levon: what program?
[03:35] <levon> crossover office
[03:35] <levon> :O
[03:35] <mrcreativity> i cant seem to enable admiinstrator mode
[03:35] <levon> lol i couldnt resist
[03:36] <levon> i think its 6.0 too
[03:36] <levon> i could send it to everyone within about 1hr lol
[03:36] <sagematt> Jucato: where is this Katapult app?
[03:36] <levon> 18mbs
[03:37] <Jucato> !katapult | sagematt
[03:37] <ubotu> sagematt: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:37] <sagematt> OH
[03:37] <sagematt> thanks
[03:37] <sagematt> awesome
[03:38] <stoft> Jucato: just gave it a try, nice, doesn't really change much from alt+f2 though, not for me at least
[03:38] <stoft> sagematt: you can launch katapult using alt+space, you don't have to go through alt+f2 -> katapult first
[03:39] <levon> did you know u dont need beryl to have 3d desktops
[03:39] <mrcreativity> Tm_T: can i add a custom reolution and refresh rate and switch to that?
[03:39] <levon> i didnt know that until about 1 week ago when i removed it from my buddies system all the packages and he still had the 3d cube thing going on lol
[03:40] <Kubuntu> how do I chmod a folder?
[03:40] <levon> sudo chmod -R 777 folder name
[03:40] <levon> lol thats not really good though
[03:40] <levon> gives permission to everyone to read write
[03:41] <levon> and its recursive so everything in the folder changes too
[03:41] <levon> sudo chmod 777 folder name no recursiveness
[03:42] <levon> i dont know anything other then 777 someone else might know more
[03:42] <levon> crossover kicks arse
[03:43] <trpr> use 755 or 644. 777 is a terrible idea :p
[03:43] <Gamic> does crossover work on x86_64?
[03:43] <levon> hell ya
[03:43] <levon> im running the crap out of it right now
[03:43] <levon> lol its good stuff
[03:44] <stoft> levon: Kubuntu: the numbers represent the different rights on a file, the first for the owner, the second for the group, and the third for anyone else. the number is the sum of 1+2+4 where each one represents one operation (read, write, execute)
[03:44] <levon> i just installed ie 6
[03:44] <levon> oh yea stoft
[03:44] <Gamic> It's a shame wine is so hard to get working
[03:44] <michael> down grading to edgy from feisty
[03:44] <levon> gamic
[03:44] <levon> is ur nick registered
[03:44] <Gamic> No
[03:45] <michael> edgy supports 3d ecceleration
[03:45] <korupt> register it
[03:45] <korupt> i have a present for u
[03:45] <Gamic> One sec
[03:45] <stoft> chmod 755 will set rwx for the owner, rx for the group and rx for "world" e.g.
[03:45] <Gamic> Where is the info on registrating a nick?
[03:45] <michael> not even in the forums can you find people with working drivers
[03:45] <Kubuntu> This mountuing bussniss went wrong, I can't unmont it, cause I'm not root, can't edit or read. So how do I log in to the root account??
[03:46] <ko12upt> gamic
[03:46] <ko12upt> do this /nickserv register passwordhere
[03:46] <stoft> Kubuntu: what is it you've done? what is it you've mounted?
[03:46] <ko12upt> type it
[03:46] <ko12upt> then do a /nickserv identify passwordhere
[03:46] <B4C> who is portscanning me?
[03:46] <Gamic> ko12upt: sorted
[03:47] <Kubuntu> I mounted a windows partion
[03:47] <ko12upt> got it?
[03:47] <michael> wait what happend to edgy?
[03:47] <michael> can you not down load it anymore?
[03:47] <Gamic> ko12upt: no
[03:47] <B4C> do anybody can help me with beryl?
[03:47] <B4C> i m using kubuntu
[03:48] <ko12upt> oh lol
[03:48] <ko12upt> im sending can u see it
[03:48] <Kubuntu> Why do you need beryl, what do it do??
[03:48] <michael> I only see dapper and feisty
[03:48] <ko12upt> lol
[03:48] <ko12upt> kubuntu its nothing
[03:48] <Gamic> ko12upt: sorted ;)
[03:48] <michael> on  ubuntu.com
[03:48] <B4C> the 3D desktop
[03:48] <ko12upt> sorted?
[03:48] <Gamic> Yea, getting it
[03:49] <ko12upt> Gamic type with backslash /nickserv register password
[03:49] <Kubuntu> How do I get rid of the mounted hardrive?
[03:49] <Kubuntu> I need it to be noot root!
[03:49] <ko12upt> then type with backslash /nickserv identify honda
[03:49] <Gamic> ko12upt: its sorted, I'm getting the file
[03:49] <ko12upt> yea
[03:50] <ko12upt> lol i just realized i had kbit on
[03:50] <stoft> Kubuntu: what kind of windows partition did you mount?
[03:50] <ko12upt> should come faster now
[03:50] <Gamic> ko12upt: and thanks :)
[03:50] <ko12upt> yep like a bat outa hello
[03:50] <Kubuntu> NTFS
[03:50] <ko12upt> lol np
[03:50] <ko12upt> wish it woulda been dat fast for me :P
[03:51] <Kubuntu> stoft what can I do?
[03:51] <ko12upt> Gamic to open it sudo dpkg -i filename
[03:51] <Kubuntu> I donno how to give me acces over my own ardrive
[03:51] <stoft> !ntfs | Kubuntu
[03:51] <ko12upt> :)
[03:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:51] <liviux> hi guys
[03:51] <stoft> !ntfs-3g | Kubuntu
[03:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:52] <bumbi> Can I do a fresh install of feisty without discs directly through the net?
[03:52] <Kubuntu> I do not have mac, and the mounting went fine
[03:52] <ko12upt> Gamic going nice?
[03:52] <Gamic> ko12upt: yep
[03:52] <ko12upt> :P
[03:52] <stoft> bumbi: you're probably going to need some boot medium, but otherwise it should work yeah
[03:52] <Kubuntu> It was the unmounting remounting that went wrong
[03:52] <Gamic> ko12upt: will be about 4 mins
[03:53] <Kubuntu> sudo apt-get install windows?
[03:53] <ko12upt> they have adobe cortona dcom dramweaver ebrary endnote half life damn so much
[03:53] <ko12upt> i cant go through it all
[03:53] <bumbi> stoft: I have for instance the old 6.10 ubuntu LTS and kubuntu 6.10, but I dont want to upgrade, I want fresh install of feisty this time around...
[03:53] <Aaronfromchina> Gamic: creative. :)
[03:54] <ko12upt> i dont know what this is for micro xp lol
[03:54] <ko12upt> aaron want some too? lol
[03:54] <stoft> Kubuntu: if you unmount/mount as root (using sudo) your normal user will not have the right permissions. read the two links ubotu gave you, then if you haven't solved your problem come back and I'll help you with the specifics
[03:55] <stoft> bumbi: I'm guessing you'll need some kind of boot medium (cd, usb-key, whatnot) to load the installer from but once launched it should be able to do everything from the net. Not sure if you can use the hdd that you want to install to as boot medium
[03:56] <Kubuntu> they think they worked
[03:56] <ko12upt> have fun lol
[03:56] <Kubuntu> I can acces the other harddrive
[03:56] <ko12upt> u got mail
[03:56] <Kubuntu> not the one I want to acces
[03:57] <bumbi> stoft: I'll give it a try and see what comes out of it, cheers mate..
[03:58] <nflava> grrrr i messed it up again
[03:58] <stoft> Kubuntu: do a "cat /etc/mtab" and paste the output to the pastebin
[03:58] <nflava> had to use the live cd
[03:58] <nflava> i try to fix the resolution thing then x dont load after
[03:58] <ko12upt> i wonder if i could trick m$ to give me ie 7
[03:59] <patrialt> nflava, what is the problem?
[03:59] <nflava> i only have 800x600 and 640x480
[03:59] <ko12upt> <----------------scratches his head anything is possible
[03:59] <nflava> !resolution
[03:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:59] <nflava> and i did the first option on that link
[03:59] <nflava> then i restart x and it gives me a fatal error and wont start the guui
[04:00] <patrialt> you could try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:00] <patrialt> that's generally how i get access to my resolutions
[04:00] <nflava> well, is there a way to get back on there if i am using the live cd
[04:00] <ko12upt> okay i have to goto sleep now lol
[04:00] <nflava> can i just type that on the screen after the error when i start up?
[04:00] <ko12upt> Gamic have fun everyone g night
[04:01] <patrialt> umm, what is the error?
[04:01] <nflava> i think it said no devices found cant startx
[04:01] <Kubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18243/
[04:01] <Kubuntu> her output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18243/
[04:02] <nflava> i did the same thing yesterday, and got the same error, had to reinstall
[04:02] <nflava> i thouight i did something wrong
[04:02] <nflava> so i did it again and got the same results
[04:02] <patrialt> i've never edited files in order to get resolutions :P
[04:02] <patrialt> dunno why
[04:03] <patrialt> but dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg seems to do the trick for me
[04:03] <stoft> Kubuntu: which device is it, /media/sda1?
[04:03] <patrialt> if you can remember what file you edited, maybe you can mount the drive the file's on, and change the settings back
[04:03] <UKESN|Javax> *GASP* how come warsow isn't in the universe repository?!
[04:03] <nflava> well i just did the first step in that link from resolution
[04:04] <patrialt> !resolution
[04:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:04] <nflava> there were 3 lines of code that i pasted and then a screen pops up
[04:04] <nflava> autodects stuff
[04:04] <nflava> detects
[04:04] <Kubuntu> sdb
[04:04] <Kubuntu> sdb1
[04:04] <patrialt> nflava, on that link
[04:05] <nflava> yeah
[04:05] <patrialt> if you search for "restore" you'll see a command that *should* restore your settings
[04:05] <stoft> Kubuntu: can you do a "cat /etc/fstab" as well and paste it into the same pastebin?
[04:05] <nflava> hmm
[04:05] <patrialt> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:05] <nflava> on that page?
[04:05] <nflava> ah ok
[04:05] <patrialt> i just posted the command
[04:05] <nflava> thank you
[04:05] <patrialt> np
[04:06] <nflava> ill have to reboot and do that where i cant get on x right?
[04:06] <nflava> cause this is just the live cd
[04:06] <patrialt> yea, should
[04:06] <Kubuntu> i did it
[04:06] <Gamic> How do I clear the trash: if something in their is owned by root?
[04:06] <patrialt> you should be able to enter it at command prompt when you restart :P
[04:06] <patrialt> make sure if it asks you to login, you do that first :)
[04:06] <nflava> yeah it does ask to login
[04:06] <anon32> how do I configure a kernel framebuffer?
[04:07] <patrialt> login, then enter that command
[04:07] <nflava> well thank you, hopefully ill be back :)
[04:07] <patrialt> lol :)
[04:07] <patrialt> i'll wait for you :P
[04:07] <nflava> thanks bud
[04:07] <anon32> anyone? is there a guide on setting up a console framebuffer?
[04:07] <nflava> brb
[04:09] <patrialt> i really dont know anon32
[04:09] <patrialt> you might search ubuntu forums
[04:09] <anon32> :-\
[04:09] <stoft> Kubuntu: can't see it, sorry. btw, please add my nick to your posts, I'm diong other stuff and it's easier for me to keep track that way
[04:09] <patrialt> !framebuffer
[04:09] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[04:09] <stoft> Kubuntu: make a new pastebin if you like
[04:10] <patrialt> there, visit that anon32
[04:10] <Kubuntu> Can I play the sims 2 on kubuntu?
[04:10] <anon32> ok...
[04:10] <patrialt> might have what your looking for :P
[04:10] <Kubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18243/
[04:11] <patrialt> Kubuntu: i dont believe that Wine or Cedega support Sims 2 at this time
[04:11] <Kubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18243/
[04:13] <Kubuntu> How can I change this ? /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/d:%2f%2f\040 ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[04:13] <stoft> !umask
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Kubuntu> stoft this is the one I want to change /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/d:%2f%2f\040 ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[04:15] <deviance|away> !ping
[04:15] <ubotu> pong
[04:15] <Kubuntu> !ping
[04:15] <Gaz> hey
[04:16] <Gaz> i'm wanting to install Kdevelop from adept, and each time it comes with this message: Please insert the disc labelled 'Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[04:16] <Kubuntu> Does anyone know how to change this? /dev/sdb1 /home/ubuntu/d:%2f%2f\040 ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[04:16] <stoft> Kubuntu: ok, you have to edit your fstab (sudo <youreditor> /etc/fstab), you're going to have to look in the man page for fstab/mount for some of the options I'm afraid
[04:16] <Jucato> Gaz: Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories, and disable the CD-ROM repository (forgot which tab it is in)
[04:16] <Jucato> Gaz: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[04:17] <Gaz> k
[04:17] <Gaz> thanks :)
[04:18] <Kubuntu> do I have to reboot?
[04:18] <pjamar> Hi
[04:19] <Mena> Hi
[04:19] <Mena> Does any one know a bout yahoomassanger for linux
[04:20] <Mena> i mean yahoo massanger the progrm
[04:20] <Gamic> Where is "trash:/" located?
[04:20] <stoft> Mena: there are several IM clients that support yahoo messenger: Kopete, GAIM
[04:20] <pjamar> I have a trouble using Beryl. It shows the model dialogs hidden behind its parent window. I can click on that window and it popup. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[04:20] <B4C> mena u can use gaim
[04:21] <B4C> messenger always comes with dependancy problems
[04:21] <Mena> i know
[04:21] <pjamar> Mena: Kopete works pretty good with Yahoo IM network
[04:21] <Mena> but i just was browsing yahoo pages and found that there is a linux version
[04:22] <Mena> Thanks :)
[04:22] <Jucato> Mena: it's a very old and unmaintained edition of Yahoo messenger. it's not really that good afaik
[04:22] <Mena> pjamar, check here #ubuntu-effects
[04:22] <pag> Gamic, thrash:/ can be found at ~/.local/share/Trash/
[04:22] <pjamar> Thanks, Mena
[04:22] <Mena> Jucatom ok
[04:22] <Mena> Jucato, ok
[04:22] <Gamic> thanks pag
[04:23] <Gamic> and that's the trash cleared :)
[04:24] <Kubuntu> It worked, but now the other drive is gone
[04:25] <Mena> Thanks :) Bye
[04:29] <nflava> patrialt: no luck
[04:29] <nflava> but the odd thing
[04:29] <nflava> if i use the live cd in graphics safe mode
[04:29] <nflava> i get a better resolution
[04:29] <patrialt> lol
[04:30] <patrialt> funky
[04:30] <nflava> 4 choices now instead of 2
[04:30] <patrialt> what is your video card?
[04:30] <nflava> hehe atm a voodoo3
[04:30] <patrialt> O_O
[04:30] <patrialt> those things still exist?
[04:30] <nflava> hehe i had one in an old pc
[04:31] <patrialt> lol
[04:31] <nflava> i put  anew rig together but didnt get a pciexpress card yet
[04:31] <patrialt> well i have no idea how you might go about installing drivers for that bugger :P
[04:31] <nflava> ah
[04:31] <yaccin> nflava: AGP ftw :D
[04:31] <nflava> i dont have agp on this board
[04:31] <patrialt> well, both work nicely, for linux you dont really need much more than PCI
[04:31] <nflava> i just need a better resoultion
[04:32] <nflava> cause i dont really game much
[04:32] <patrialt> does your card support a better resolution? lol
[04:32] <nflava> yeah
[04:32] <djilks> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to feisty, but it keeps crapping out with a gzip error after downloading Packages.gz
[04:32] <patrialt> how many pcs you have?
[04:32] <nflava> 2 but the other is in pieces atm
[04:32] <nflava> and right now i am at 1280x1024
[04:32] <patrialt> agh, was gonna say, stay here on one pc, and reinstall ubuntu on the other pc :P
[04:33] <patrialt> kubuntu*
[04:33] <nflava> i wish i could do that, it would make things better
[04:33] <patrialt> so that command did nothing aye?
[04:33] <nflava> maybe ill have to do that later today
[04:33] <nflava> yeah
[04:33] <patrialt> =\
[04:34] <nflava> so i guess ill just have to reinstall for the 3rd time hehe
[04:34] <nflava> ill have to do it later though, i am about to go landsacping
[04:34] <patrialt> the only other thing i really know to do is reinstall kubuntu, then configure xorg to support 1024x768
[04:34] <nflava> well ill be back in a few hours, my ride is here
[04:34] <nflava> thanks for all the help
[04:34] <patrialt> alright, np, sorry we couldn't get that fixed
[04:37] <don> where can i go to get my Lexmark printer working on 7.04?
[04:39] <don> how can you install directx?
[04:39] <eMonster> you can't
[04:39] <eMonster> this ain't windows
[04:40] <don> I know but I thought it mite bepossible
[04:40] <eMonster> you can emulate with wine
[04:40] <eMonster> if yo uwant games--> windows
[04:40] <don> i got wine working and tried x it tried but no go
[04:41] <jussi01> don what game are you after?
[04:41] <eMonster> cedega is option but it cost $$
[04:41] <don> I have many computers no problem just think kubuntu aught to be able
[04:42] <don> this is a great system and someday i think it will do what windows can
[04:42] <jussi01> don:  there are a lot of games ported to linux already - what are you after?
[04:42] <eMonster> use windows for that
[04:43] <don> I got a bunch of stuff working now
[04:43] <don> ya
[04:43] <don> war games
[04:43] <don> I loaded air conflicts but no Direct x
[04:43] <jussi01> don: like americas army? tremulous? unreal tournament? enemy territory?
[04:44] <don> ya
[04:44] <don> Battleffield2
[04:44] <don> just messing around
[04:45] <don> I cant get printer gooing though
[04:46] <don> lots of people into gaming big = if linux could
[04:46] <llutz> don: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro
[04:46] <don> thanks
[04:50] <kludge> should i try kubuntu if im happy with gnome? can i install it as an alternate?
[04:51] <LjL> !kde > kludge    (kludge, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:51] <kludge> thanks, will it slow down gnome?
[04:52] <don> I have X1155 Lexmark cant even find it in there site linux either
[04:54] <eMonster> don what do you use linux for
[04:55] <don> To play with
[04:56] <don> I want to know all i can
[04:56] <eMonster> well you can all but directx games.
[04:56] <don> I want windows to have compition
[04:57] <don> ya but I got lots of time
[04:57] <don> I got tv dvd player working now
[04:57] <directeditoincte> Hello, I was wondering if someone answer something. I had a power outage and grub won't boot. An ls /boot shows that /boot/grub is corrupt (all values are '?'). Am I just screwed? I can't remove or replace it.
[04:58] <don> I built a new computer just for this
[05:00] <don> must be somthing you can do
[05:00] <bobstro> directeditoincte: you could try booting a rescue cd, but the fact that the /boot is corrupt is ominous.
[05:01] <don> Try running off disc see what goes
[05:01] <eMonster> directeditoincte: you could also make grub cd or floppy
[05:01] <directeditoincte> By rescue, you mean the install disc?
[05:01] <anku> Hi all
[05:01] <bobstro> directeditoincte: you can use that, or i'm fond of the supergrub boot disc.
[05:02] <directeditoincte> I could put /boot on another drive and boottttttttttttttt from there
[05:02] <directeditoincte> darn broken keyboard
[05:02] <anku> Does anyone know which protocol the "Network folder" menu uses when it mounts SMB shares?
[05:02] <bobstro> directeditoincte: the big question is just how badly damaged your disk is. you may be able to boot a rescue disc, then do an fsck on the broken one.
[05:02] <don> mine is fast too
[05:02] <directeditoincte> fsck didn't complain when I ran iiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: your kernel is in /boot so it may not help.
[05:03] <patrialt> lllllllllol
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: no?
[05:03] <directeditoincte> yeah, it's the only corrupt file I can find
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: so ONLY the /boot is trashed?
[05:04] <directeditoincte> It's the only one I can find
[05:04] <bobstro> directeditoincte: that's pretty specific corruption if so!
[05:04] <directeditoincte> indeed :(
[05:04] <bobstro> directeditoincte: i suppose you could boot a cd, then rebuild the contents of that directory manually.
[05:05] <bobstro> directeditoincte: or use the cd to backup what's good, then reinstall and restore.
[05:05] <directeditoincte> I can't do anything to /boot/grub, includign remove it, because nothing matches its ? permissions
[05:05] <don> sounds good to me
[05:05] <directeditoincte> I'll try putting grub on another drive.
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename /boot, the recreate it?
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: your entire /boot is gone, right?
[05:06] <bobstro> or just /boot/grub?
[05:06] <benko_> I need help about wpa_supplicant.
[05:06] <directeditoincte> no, just /boot/grub
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename it?
[05:06] <benko_> I installed it and it used to work
[05:06] <benko_> now it's not working anymore
[05:06] <directeditoincte> nope, can''t do anything to it
[05:07] <benko_> knetworkmanager does not show me any wlan connection or network
[05:07] <benko_> anyone ideas?
[05:07] <don> thats what boot disc is for right?
[05:07] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename /boot, then copy good contents to a newly created /boot?
[05:08] <directeditoincte> hurray! thanks bobstro, good call, that worked!
[05:08] <bobstro> directeditoincte: ok, good luck!
[05:08] <bobstro> directeditoincte: and make a backup! quick! :)
[05:08] <benko_> no ideas about the wpa_supplicant problem?
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: well the obvious questions is "did anything change?"
[05:09] <benko_> How can I reset the settings of wpa_supplicant?
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: i had it working with network manager, but haven't played with it enough to be an expert myself.
[05:09] <benko_> bobstro: si, I changed to WEP for a while.
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: you're using WPA/PSK?
[05:10] <benko_> Not anymore, cause it's not working anymore
[05:10] <vinicius> hi, folks,I wonder if anybody could help me use kxmame at ubuntu 7.04 for amd64.
[05:10] <benko_> any networkmanager has problems with WPA/WPA2 connections now
[05:11] <directeditoincte> thanks guys, rebooting now, later!
[05:11] <benko_> vinicius: no, sorry.
[05:11] <bobstro> directeditoincte: good job, have fun!
[05:11] <don> i didnt use 64 cause no wine
[05:12] <majnoon> ()*&(*&(*&^ update crashed
[05:13] <vinicius> don, I think wine works, although I don t use it now, at least it used to work when I used fedora core6
[05:13] <jballou> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu on my desktop here, I run it on two other systems with no problems. On my desktop which is way faster than anything else, I get extremely slow video performance from anything (Flash, Xine, Kaffeine, VLC, MPlayer, etc). Tried nv and nvidia driver, using the same xorg.conf that worked just fine in Dapper Drake, but on the fresh install I just get slow slow video
[05:13] <don> It works fine for me now
[05:13] <don> cant install it on 64 amd 7.04
[05:14] <don> thats why i used i386 ver
[05:14] <benko_> How can wpa_supplicant settings be deleted?
[05:14] <vinicius> don, have you tried with synaptic?
[05:14] <benko_> I want to use WPA again :)
[05:15] <don> no whats that?
[05:15] <don> that like wine?
[05:15] <vinicius> a package manager for ubuntu 7.04, no command lines required
[05:15] <patrialt> synaptic is like Adept Package manager, only for gnome
[05:16] <BluesKaj> wpaWPA is more secure than WEP , in most setups
[05:16] <don> tried a lot of wine before it worked
[05:16] <don> cool
[05:16] <don> is it in manager
[05:16] <benko_> BluesKaj: Yes, indeed, but it is not working.
[05:17] <don> ssome things didnot work for me till I rebooted
[05:18] <vinicius> like what, don?
[05:18] <benko_> whois brezel
[05:18] <djilks> like updating
[05:18] <don> radio and dvd ect
[05:19] <don> pluggins
[05:19] <djilks> updating doesn't work, that's for sure.
[05:19] <vinicius> to tell you the truth I still have trouble with such plugins
[05:19] <don> how get synaptic
[05:20] <chijin> !nvidia
[05:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <vinicius> It s already in you system
[05:20] <vinicius> just go to system
[05:20] <don> a lot of stuff i installed did not work then it did after reboot
[05:20] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <don> great
[05:21] <don> not in system
[05:21] <BluesKaj> ! WPA
[05:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:21] <don> just Adept
[05:22] <patrialt> !ndiswrapper
[05:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <patrialt> don, adept is the kubuntu equivalent of synaptic
[05:23] <don> Vinicius you got 7.04?
[05:23] <don> ok
[05:23] <vinicius> yes don
[05:24] <BluesKaj> oops, my spelign sucs
[05:24] <don> well Adept work fine for me
[05:24] <patrialt> lol
[05:24] <vinicius> feisty fawn
[05:24] <don> ya
[05:24] <BluesKaj> you can install synaptic thru adept
[05:24] <don> just put it on last night
[05:24] <don> ok
[05:24] <vinicius> synaptic is ok here too
[05:24] <patrialt> after 7.04 there isn't much of a difference between adept and synaptic
[05:24] <benko_> anybody an idea about wpa_supplicant?
[05:25] <benko_> wpa_gui for example doesn't find an adapter.
[05:25] <don> seem good to have a linux i can get my things going on
[05:25] <vinicius> and I didn t see adept here, but synaptic is ok
[05:26] <BluesKaj> vinicius: it's the default pkg manager in feisty
[05:26] <don> I loaded my printer dvrs through wine but it could not find printer
[05:27] <vinicius> yes, don and what I most apreciate at ubuntu is it s easy way to manage with pacages and installing programs
[05:27] <benko_> lol
[05:27] <vinicius> I don t know blueskaj
[05:27] <anon32> don, you can't use Windows drivers in wine... it not work that way
[05:27] <BluesKaj> don, no linux driver?
[05:28] <vinicius> it s easy to set a printer
[05:28] <djilks> So what would cause gzip to fail on a package that is located on an ubuntu server?
[05:28] <don> It knows thatit is a lexmark but no help
[05:28] <don> HP maby
[05:28] <anon32> don, what model exactly? that would help
[05:29] <don> No all bbut mine ha ha
[05:29] <don> X1155
[05:29] <don> scan print
[05:29] <vinicius> yes, mine is hp and I had no problem, except that I can t use the scanner yet
[05:29] <don> made for hp
[05:30] <don> thought it was going to load through wine
[05:30] <don> cant find printer
[05:30] <don> neet to run my software though
[05:30] <majnoon> trying to fix upgrade with sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:31] <don> I did not think I woulld ever see them open in linux
[05:32] <don> I see special dvrs for you
[05:32] <djilks> Error during update. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzaip returned an error code (1)
[05:32] <don> check out site they have yours
[05:37] <majnoon> can one of you experts check https://bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[05:40] <djilks> Error during update. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:40] <djilks> how the fuck do i run the updated via a terminal so i can see wtf is happening?
[05:40] <ubuntu> what is the best image editor for kubuntu (most like photoshop)??
[05:40] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: probably the GIMP
[05:40] <Whiz2> hey is there an easy way to remove all "dangling" links (links to files that no longer exist) from my system?
[05:41] <djilks> Whiz2: kleansweep?
[05:41] <benko_> I only use GIMP, but it's not very similar to photoshop
[05:41] <ubuntu> How do I update my system?
[05:41] <Whiz2> djilks: seperate package i assume?
[05:41] <WillLuongo> benko_: The functionality is very similar even if the ui isn't.
[05:42] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: what version are you running?
[05:42] <benko_> WillLuongo: He looks definately to the gui, not the functions
[05:42] <ubuntu> feisty fawn kubuntu
[05:42] <WillLuongo> benko_: then I guess he needs to get photoshop. lol
[05:43] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: what exactly are you trying to upgrade to? :)
[05:43] <benko_> yeah, you're probabely right ;)
[05:43] <Whiz2> djilks: i'm looking for something i don't have to download & compile in order to install
[05:43] <benko_> But Will, do you have an idea about my wpa prob?
[05:44] <ubuntu> Just a a normal update of wlanassistant.
[05:44] <WillLuongo> benko: I didn't see it I just came in, but I probably don't.
[05:44] <WillLuongo> :)
[05:44] <lyly> hi every one
[05:44] <djilks> Whiz2: i got mine via adept
[05:44] <benko_> fuck, sake
[05:44] <benko_> WPA is not workin' anymore
[05:44] <Icebreaker> hi
[05:44] <lyly> I have a question about nfs on kubuntu
[05:44] <benko_> wpa_supplicant can't be started.
[05:44] <ubuntu> benko LOL
[05:44] <djilks> Why does kubuntu suck so much?
[05:44] <snowdonkey> ubuntu: In Feisty Fawn WlAssistant is no longer installed by default.
[05:45] <Whiz2> hey is there an easy way to remove all "dangling" links (links to files that no longer exist) from my system?
[05:45] <snowdonkey> It's been replaced by KNetworkManager
[05:45] <ubuntu> how the hell am I going to use a wireless network then?
[05:45] <snowdonkey> Use KNetworkManager, it's already installed on your system.
[05:45] <djilks> fucking morons
[05:45] <ubuntu> I deleted knetworkmanager because it was unable to find networks
[05:46] <Whiz2> some people
[05:46] <don> ya
[05:46] <snowdonkey> Ok, then type "sudo aptitude install wlassistant" at command prompt to install it.
[05:46] <ubuntu> how do I make knetworkmanager detect wireless networks?
[05:47] <snowdonkey> Are you using a laptop or desktop?
[05:47] <ubuntu> desktop
[05:48] <snowdonkey> Are you sure Kubuntu is properly detecting the device you use to get wireless? (USB finder, PCI antennae, etc.)
[05:48] <ubuntu> Well, wlanassistant does
[05:49] <snowdonkey> Ok, then go ahead and use WLAssistant.  :-)  Use whatever works.
[05:49] <ubuntu> And knetworkassistant can log on to networks wlanassistant has configured
[05:49] <ubuntu> But I want knetworkassistant
[05:50] <ubuntu> Can wlanassistant be disturbing knetworkassistant?
[05:50] <ubuntu> LjL are you an admin??
[05:50] <LjL> an admin?
[05:51] <ubuntu> yes, are you?
[05:51] <LjL> i have no idea what the heck you mean with admin.
[05:51] <LjL> i'm an admin on my computer, for sure.
[05:51] <ubuntu> A person that can ban and kick other people
[05:51] <ubuntu> from this channel
[05:52] <LjL> that's called an op.
[05:52] <jk-home_> a
[05:52] <majnoon> can one of you experts check https://bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[05:52] <ubuntu> Is it op's task to ruin peoples computers?
[05:52] <ubuntu> Like say sudo apt-get autoremove wine?
[05:52] <LjL> ubuntu, you again?
[05:52] <ubuntu> Yes
[05:53] <ubuntu> How can I get this wireless thing work?
[05:53] <LjL> ubuntu, you're libelling me. please stop. i thought we made this clear.
[05:53] <ubuntu> I need help
[05:53] <LjL> i couldn't care less
[05:53] <pauljw> lol
[05:53] <ubuntu> How do I make a D-link card(usb) connect to a d-link router (router)?
[05:54] <bryan_> anyone know which IRC server should i use in feisty? dancer-ircd, iacd, ngircd or rageircd?
[05:54] <ubuntu> LjL first you break my computer, then you refuse to help me with a simple problem.
[05:54] <LjL> ubuntu: first part, wrong, second part, right.
[05:55] <markc> is there an amd64 specific pasge or info somewhere how to "officially" install mp3  goodness for amarok ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> Anyone know how to use knetworkmanager with a D-link thinig?
[05:55] <ubuntu> usb
[05:55] <ubuntu> !ping
[05:55] <ubotu> pong
[05:56] <ubuntu> !ping
[05:56] <markc> or, is there an amd64 specific channel for kubuntu ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> probabaly
[05:56] <defjux> ubuntu: dlink routers are only for telnet and usenet.
[05:57] <markc> ubuntu: do you know what it's called ?
[05:57] <pag> markc, afaik you can install mp3-support the same way you do in i386
[05:57] <ubuntu> D-Link
[05:57] <markc> psg: which is how ?
[05:57] <markc> pag: which is how ?
[05:58] <ubuntu> can I use a Topcom usb network card with knetworkmanager?
[05:58] <pag> markc, install libxine-extracodecs that should do the trick for Amarok
[05:58] <Whiz2> hey is there an easy way to remove all "dangling" links (links to files that no longer exist) from my system?
[05:58] <ubuntu> format the harddrive should remove them
[05:58] <don> ya right
[05:59] <markc> pag: thank you, too easy
[05:59] <pag> markc, np :)
[05:59] <don> just delete them i do
[06:00] <don> if it dont work it goes
[06:00] <Whiz2> ubuntu: yeah, but then it removes everything else as well... not trying to do that
[06:00] <ubuntu> What about removing them manually?
[06:00] <don> ya
[06:00] <don> no easy way
[06:01] <Whiz2> ubuntu: that may take too long if i don't know where they all are
[06:01] <ubuntu> How do I know if I have  NetworkManager 0.6.x installed??
[06:01] <trpr> Whiz2: maybe fslint will do what you need
[06:02] <ubuntu> But if you can't see them, they can't hurt you.
[06:02] <happytiger> Hi guys where to I get my ahnds on the apache2-ssl-certificate  script cant seem to find it?
[06:02] <happytiger> Hi guys where to I get my HAnds on the apache2-ssl-certificate  script cant seem to find it?
[06:02] <Whiz2> trpr: seperate package?
[06:02] <ubuntu> I do not know what anhds is
[06:02] <markc> Whiz2:  apt-get install symlinks ... it has a -d option
[06:03] <Whiz2> markc: lemme guess -d removes the dead ones? ;-)
[06:03] <markc> happytiger: /usr/sbin/make-ssl-cert
[06:03] <happytiger> markc thx
[06:04] <trpr> Whiz2: yes. i don't know what the preferred option is, but fslint claims to search out broken symlinks. markc's option might be more informed
[06:04] <markc> Whiz2:  quite likely :-) man symlinks
[06:04] <rafal> hello :)
[06:04] <don> yo
[06:05] <ubuntu> what is ndwiswrapper?
[06:05] <markc> Whiz2: symlinks -dr / ... looks good
[06:05] <lontra> ubuntu:  hit alt+f2 and type knetworkmanager ... if the icon pops up you have it :D
[06:05] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[06:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <markc> Whiz2: symlinks -vr / might be a good idea first
[06:06] <ubuntu> I have knetworkmanager, butnit wont detect netowrks
[06:07] <ubuntu> so it automaticaly connects to one, but I can't choose withc
[06:07] <lontra> ubuntu:  well you might need to edit /etc/network/interfaces or your card may just not work with knetworkmanager
[06:07] <don> maby it is not working reinstall it
[06:07] <ubuntu> But it manages yo log on at start up
[06:07] <ubuntu> I have
[06:07] <markc> Whiz2: there ya go -> symlinks -vr / | grep dangling
[06:07] <lontra> ubuntu: my orinoco card works with knetworkmanager but my built-in wireless (which requires ndiswrapper) doesn't
[06:08] <don> I loaded wine 5 times before it worked
[06:08] <trpr> lontra: speaking of which, after upgrading to feisty i was surprised to discover knetworkmanager was detecting wireless networks despite entries for my cards in /etc/network/interfaces. back on dapper i had to remove these entries for networkmanager to use the cards
[06:08] <ubuntu> But if it of some reason loses connection then I can't reconnect. But as long as the connection is stable from startup then it works great
[06:08] <ubuntu> What is wrong, and how do i get the d-link driver?
[06:08] <don> check out manufacturers site
[06:08] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:09] <Whiz2> markc: symlinks -dr / seemed to do the trick
[06:09] <pollyo> Hello
[06:09] <ubuntu> ho manufactors d-link?
[06:09] <lontra> trpr: it depends on what is in that file whether or not knetworkmanager will detect it ...   but it's come a long way
[06:09] <don> not me
[06:09] <pollyo> Is there a script that will autodetect a networkcard?
[06:09] <don> let me know how you make out
[06:09] <trpr> lontra: indeed. i was surprised i didn't have to tweak it :)
[06:09] <lontra> trpr: the folks at suse have done a nice job with it :)
[06:10] <markc> wow, I have 97 dangling links on a fresh kubuntu feisty install
[06:10] <markc> obviously the kubuntu developers haven't heard of symlinks -dr :)
[06:12] <happytiger> markc how do you find "dangling" symlinks?
[06:12] <steven__> hello
[06:13] <jussi01> !hi | steven__
[06:13] <ubotu> steven__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <steven__> hey
[06:13] <ubuntu> !hi | steven
[06:13] <ubotu> steven: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <pollyo> Anyone know how to rerun the network card autodetection after you've installed ubuntu?
[06:13] <ubuntu> !hi | ubot
[06:13] <ubotu> ubot: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <steven__> not me
[06:13] <Whiz2> happytiger: install "symlinks" then run it as sudo with the -dr / switch
[06:13] <lontra> ubuntu:  please stop ;)
[06:13] <markc> happytiger: apt-get install symlinks ; symlinks -vr / | grep dangling
[06:14] <jussi01> !botabuse > ubuntu
[06:14] <ubuntu> !hi | lontra
[06:14] <ubotu> lontra: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:14] <LjL> Whiz2: i think "find" has an option for findind dangling links
[06:14] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:14] <Whiz2> LjL: i got them ty
[06:14] <steven__> never had success wid any webcam
[06:15] <ubuntu> !botabuse 1 jussi01
[06:15] <llutz> wolferine: logitech clicksmart 310 works fine (gspca-driver)
[06:15] <ubuntu> I have been lucky with a polaroid camera once
[06:16] <korobase> Hi,all.
[06:16] <steven__> hey
[06:16] <korobase> I have a question to ask!
[06:16] <ubuntu> Does anyone have 5 minutes to write me an driver??
[06:16] <ubuntu> Suprise
[06:16] <balint> hi, why cant i write into /usr/share/amsn/skins folder? :S
[06:16] <jussi01> korobase: yes?
[06:17] <wolferine> hey nalioth
[06:17] <nalioth> hi wolferine
[06:17] <korobase> After I install some fonts.What do I need to do next?
[06:17] <steven__> use them lol
[06:17] <happytiger> sudo symlinks -vr / | grep -c dangling
[06:17] <happytiger> 118
[06:17] <korobase> How to refresh the font cache?
[06:17] <balint> Why cant i write into /usr/share/amsn/skins folder? :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[06:18] <happytiger> markc So can symlinks remove em to?
[06:18] <korobase> jussi01,Can you help me?
[06:18] <markc> balint:  you probably have to be the root user, use sudo
[06:18] <pollyo> Am I going to have to reinstall just to get this thing to detect my network card?
[06:18] <markc> happytiger: yes... -d :)
[06:18] <balint> just type sudo into terminal?
[06:18] <korobase> How to refresh the font cache?
[06:19] <markc> balint: sudo -i -u root
[06:19] <korobase> Help me please!!!
[06:19] <steven__> bye
[06:19] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:19] <happytiger> markc you just saw the man thx
[06:19] <jussi01> balint: kdesu konqueror will give a konweror window which is root
[06:19] <pollyo> wolferine: I have a logictech webcam on this machine.
[06:19] <balint> Webcams? hahah A4Tech webcams are uselesss in linux :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[06:19] <atidem> re
[06:19] <jussi01> !patience | korobase
[06:19] <ubotu> korobase: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:19] <wolferine> pollyo, can you look at lsusb
[06:20] <wolferine> and see your webcam ID?
[06:20] <balint> markc its the same :(
[06:20] <jussi01> korobase: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[06:20] <pollyo> wolferine: It is an old webcam.
[06:20] <pollyo> wolferine: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, what driver is it utilizing?
[06:21] <pollyo> Anyone know how I can get ubuntu to autodetect a network card?
[06:21] <markc> balint: does the folder actually exist ?
[06:21] <pollyo> wolferine: I have no idea.  I just plugged it in.
[06:21] <balint> markc ofcourse
[06:21] <balint> markc its the amsn skin folder
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, on Feisty?
[06:21] <pollyo> wolferine: Yes
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, nice
[06:22] <markc> balint: what command are you trying to use ?
[06:22] <wolferine> well, atleast I know some have had successes
[06:22] <wolferine> so maybe at some point I might get it working too
[06:22] <pollyo> wolferine: Any idea how to get a network card going?
[06:22] <pollyo> wolferine: Or a website you can point me to?
[06:22] <wolferine> pollyo, sorry, im not helping today, just working on getting my cam up, then reading
[06:22] <pollyo> I have a D-link wireless card I want to get running.
[06:23] <wolferine> pollyo, check the forums?
[06:23] <balint> markc i just wanna paste the file (a folder) into skins folder in konqueror
[06:23] <pollyo> wolferine: I'm not sure what to search for.
[06:23] <jussi01> pollyo: just search for your card model
[06:23] <pollyo> wolferine: I had hopes of a script that ubuntu would have.
[06:23] <wolferine> pollyo, installing a d-link XXX
[06:24] <pollyo> It ran a script during installation thought that script might be accessible now.
[06:24] <wolferine> where XXX is your brand of card
[06:24] <pollyo> wolferine: I'll give it a try.
[06:24] <jussi01> !wireless | pollyo
[06:24] <ubotu> pollyo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:24] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[06:24] <balint> markc i solved it, but copyed to another folder wich is also good for skins
[06:24] <jussi01> there are some dlink cards listed there pollyo
[06:24] <markc> pollyo: this might help -> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Get_your_wireless_card_working_in_Ubuntu
[06:25] <pollyo> markc: I'll take a look. thank you.
[06:25] <pollyo> jussi01: Thank you.
[06:25] <jussi01> np's pollyo
[06:29] <yaccin> yay new tastymenu version
[06:29] <fabske> helo
[06:30] <fabske> jemand da?
[06:30] <fabske> hab ne wichtige frage!
[06:30] <WillLuongo> !ge
[06:30] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[06:30] <wolferine> !da | fabske
[06:30] <ubotu> fabske: For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[06:30] <WillLuongo> oops
[06:30] <WillLuongo> lol
[06:30] <wolferine> hehe
[06:30] <anon32> ge isn't German?
[06:30] <fabske> kann ich auf einem HP Notebook mit AMD Turion64 Prozessor Kubuntu 32 bit installieren?
[06:30] <fabske> oh
[06:30] <wolferine> i never get it right either WillLuongo
[06:30] <fabske> english
[06:30] <fabske> ok
[06:30] <wolferine> i was lucky
[06:30] <WillLuongo> anon32: nope.
[06:30] <fabske> i have a question
[06:31] <wolferine> use 32 bit fabske
[06:31] <wolferine> but use the alternative CD
[06:31] <fabske> is it possible to install Kubuntu32bit on a AMD Turoin64bit machine?
[06:31] <wolferine> .....
[06:31] <WillLuongo> fabske yes
[06:31] <wolferine> read above
[06:31] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[06:31] <anon32> fabske, yes, very much so
[06:31] <fabske> why alternate?
[06:32] <anon32> fabske, because the Alternate installer has less issues
[06:32] <fabske> because the 64 bit version makes trouble with firefox plugins
[06:32] <WillLuongo> I was able to get it working with the regular install/live disk.
[06:32] <fabske> less issues? for example?
[06:32] <anon32> fabske, dunno, apparently the desktop/livecd installer doesn't have enough options or intelligence
[06:32] <anon32> it doesn't really matter though
[06:33] <fabske> ok
[06:33] <fabske> so i just tried a 32 bit feisty to boot
[06:33] <fabske> but then it stopped by loading die broadcom wlan driver wich wasn't on the disk
[06:33] <llutz> wolferine: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:0900 Logitech, Inc. ClickSmart 310
[06:33] <fabske> so i treid again with "live noapic"
[06:34] <fabske> but the the cd-rom device made much sound!
[06:34] <wolferine> llutz, what driver are you using?
[06:34] <anon32> I think it's "live noacpi", but..
[06:35] <llutz> wolferine: as i said b4: gspca
[06:35] <systest> are all the feisty kernels suitable for xen dom0 or do you need to use the xen kernel pkg?
[06:35] <wolferine> llutxz, sorry, I missed that
[06:35] <fabske> i put the cd-rom into another cd device and it ran perfectly
[06:35] <ubuntu__> is this in german ?
[06:36] <anon32> ubuntu__, this is the english channel
[06:36] <ubuntu__> und in deutsch ?
[06:36] <chronos> hey all, good afternon
[06:37] <llutz> !de| ubuntu__
[06:37] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:37] <chronos> we have kubuntu 7.04 ISO for dowload?
[06:37] <niles> hi
[06:37] <ubuntu__> thank you
[06:37] <anon32> chronos, yes?
[06:37] <niles> which repo in sources.list provides nvidia-glx?
[06:37] <anon32> !download
[06:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:37] <niles> i dont have enuff resources to apt-get update my entire sources.list file
[06:37] <chronos> nice
[06:37] <chronos> anon32: you know flisol
[06:38] <anon32> no I don't know flisol
[06:38] <chronos> latin festival of instalation of free software
[06:38] <anon32> nope, and I don't think I care about it
[06:38] <chronos> anon32: I instaled ubuntu 7.04 on 10 machines yesterday :)
[06:38] <chronos> ubuntu is much good :)
[06:39] <chronos> flisol is one festival on all latin america of one day, people install free software on machines and other things
[06:39] <anon32> ok... I still don't think I care... moving on..
[06:40] <chronos> wheel, congratulations for ubuntu, is much nice
[06:40] <markc> chronos: that's great, good to hear :)
[06:40] <chronos> markc: much good :)
[06:41] <chronos> wheel, I don't see torrent for kubuntu cds ... don't exists?
[06:42] <tycho> chronos: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/
[06:43] <chronos> tycho: I need cd :(
[06:43] <markc> chronos: yes, there are liveCD torrents on my local mirror
[06:43] <chronos> not problem, I use ubuntu and install kde
[06:43] <markc> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[06:43] <chronos> hum
[06:43] <chronos> nice
[06:43] <markc> chronos: there are torrents there
[06:44] <chronos> very thx markc
[06:47] <wolferine> in dmesg I have the follow error (multiple ones): atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e01e <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:47] <markc> bugger, I can't use skype on amd64... anyone know of a cross platform voip-like skype alternative ?
[06:47] <yaccin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1O56kY9-ZY
[06:47] <wolferine> how do I set keycodes exactly?
[06:47] <Mena> Hwy realplayer dont play .avi files
[06:47] <Mena> why*
[06:47] <markc> me no flash enabled
[06:47] <yaccin> Menbecause realplayer is only for real media
[06:48] <yaccin> Mena: use kaffeine for avis
[06:48] <yaccin> :)
[06:48] <Mena> yaccin ok
[06:48] <anon32> use mplayer :-)
[06:48] <anon32> it's the best
[06:48] <Mena> ok
[06:48] <Mena> i dont know :)
[06:48] <anon32> food time...
[06:48] <Mena> i guess i will install maplyer
[06:48] <yaccin> kmplayer
[06:48] <yaccin> :)
[06:48] <Mena> ok
[06:49] <gggggdxn> I set globle enviroment variable $LD_PRELOAD in /etc/profile, but when KDE starts, it was unsetted by start_kdeinit. Could anyone here tell me that in which file should I reset that variable? Thank you!
[06:49] <markc> mplayer is greatany skype alternative suggestions ?
[06:49] <markc> oops, any skype alternative suggestions ?
[06:49] <yaccin> hmm
[06:49] <bossa> hello
[06:50] <bossa> does it exist an italian kubuntu irc channel?
[06:50] <JohnFlux_> markc: you can run skype itself
[06:50] <yaccin> markc: theres a skype-wrapper for kopete... if i remember corectly
[06:50] <markc> JohnFlux_: on amd64 ?
[06:50] <yaccin> but you still have to have skype isntalled and running
[06:50] <yaccin> hmm
[06:50] <yaccin> i know why i dont like 64 bit
[06:50] <yaccin> :P
[06:51] <JohnFlux_> markc: 32bit version maybe
[06:51] <JohnFlux_> markc: just install the libraries
[06:51] <markc> yaccin: yeah, I tossed up slightly better performance versus... no skype/flash etc
[06:52] <yaccin> :D
[06:52] <yaccin> i couldnt live without flash
[06:52] <markc> JohnFlux_: a clue as to what they might be called ? (so I can apt-get)
[06:52] <Mena> !bot |Mena
[06:52] <JohnFlux_> !skype | markc
[06:52] <ubotu> markc: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:53] <llutz> markc: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=10125
[06:53] <markc> thanks guys
[06:53] <Mena> Thanks for help :) Bye
[06:53] <sonicchao> How do I set a password on grub? I heard that it's possible but can't find a decent guide anywhere
[06:53] <tycho> anyone here use xwinwrap on a dual head box?
[06:55] <JohnFlux_> sonicchao: edit /boot/grub/menu.list    and go to where it says password
[06:55] <markc> sonicchao: -> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/11/2153256
[06:55] <llutz> sonicchao: "password mysecret" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:58] <just-this-time> edgy upgrades very smoothly to feisty or so it seems
[07:00] <Skyblast> Not for a lot of people it hasn't
[07:00] <Skyblast> Seems to be a  crap shoot
[07:00] <lontra> it my fonts look crummy in kde is that cause my resolution is off?
[07:01] <lontra> one other thing if i have a dual-core processor do i need a special kernel?
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> !fonts
[07:01] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> lontra:  nope
[07:02] <just-this-time> !generic
[07:02] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:02] <llutz> lontra: -generic is fine
[07:04] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:05] <llutz> wolferine: is yours listed here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html  ?
[07:06] <wolferine> llutz yes
[07:06] <llutz> wolferine: then install gspca
[07:06] <wolferine> 046d:08f5
[07:06] <wolferine> i think  I did already
[07:06] <wolferine> ah wait
[07:06] <wolferine> didnt work
[07:07] <wolferine> llutz, i take that back :/
[07:08] <wolferine> camorama gives me: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.
[07:12] <ubuntu> hola?
[07:12] <ubuntu> algun espaolP?
[07:12] <ubuntu> ola?
[07:12] <ubuntu> algun espaol?
[07:12] <atidem> !es | ubuntu
[07:12] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:15] <oems> lu all :)
[07:16] <oems_> bonsoir , pas bavard dit donc !
[07:18] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:22] <llutz> wolferine: tested the "quickcam"-driver?
[07:23] <pollyo> !wireless
[07:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:23] <pollyo> !wifi
[07:23] <ubuntu> how can i join in a spanish channel?
[07:23] <llutz> ubuntu: /j #kubuntu-es
[07:23] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:26] <wolferine> llutz, tested?
[07:26] <wolferine> what do you mean exactly?
[07:26] <llutz> wolferine: have you tested it?
[07:26] <Chrissie> hi all. I'm migrating computers, can anyone tell me where the emails in kontacts are stored so that I can move them to the new comp?
[07:26] <llutz> wolferine: plug-in your cam, "sudo modprobe quickcam"
[07:27] <llutz> Chrissie:  ~/.kde/share....
[07:28] <wolferine> llutz, nothing
[07:28] <Chrissie> llutz: thanks. Will have a look now now brb
[07:28] <Dekans> ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[07:28] <llutz> wolferine: "nothing" like no error or "no picture"
[07:28] <llutz>  ?
[07:29] <llutz> wolferine: look into /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog for errors or further info
[07:31] <wolferine> llutz messages is just dmesgs
[07:31] <wolferine> and its flooded with setkeycodes errors
[07:32] <llutz> wolferine: does "lsmod |grep quickcam" show the module as being loaded?
[07:32] <wolferine> quickcam               72356  0
[07:32] <wolferine> videodev               28160  2 quickcam,gspca
[07:32] <wolferine> usbcore               134280  11 quickcam,gspca,usblp,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[07:33] <wolferine> i see nothing in both /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[07:33] <wolferine> regarding my CAM
[07:33] <llutz> wolferine: sudo "rmmod gspca quickcam && sudo  modprobe quickcam"
[07:33] <joseph> hello
[07:34] <joseph> can someone help me ?
[07:34] <wolferine> nothing llutz
[07:34] <llutz> wolferine: "nothing" like " no error "or "no picture"?
[07:34] <Lynoure> joseph: maybe, I'll try to see your question.
[07:34] <ryks> hi all
[07:34] <wolferine> sudo rmmod gspca quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> profx@profx:/dev$ sudo  modprobe quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> profx@profx:/dev$
[07:34] <wolferine> lsmod |grep quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> quickcam               72356  0
[07:34] <wolferine> videodev               28160  1 quickcam
[07:35] <wolferine> the gspca has been remove properly from the quickcam line
[07:35] <llutz> wolferine: no error means success, try camorama or other app
[07:35] <wolferine> and from the usbcore line as well
[07:35] <Lynoure> joseph: hmm, I cannot promise I'll help without knowing with what, but if you tell me what's the matter, we can see about that.
[07:35] <joseph> I need help with my ubuntu every time I try to use update manager it knock out my network connection
[07:35] <wolferine> camorama gives me: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.
[07:36] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video0"
[07:36] <wolferine> crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 81, 0 2007-04-29 02:01 /dev/video0
[07:37] <wolferine> c meaning what?
[07:37] <llutz> wolferine: try "sudo chown root:video /dev/video0 && sudo chmod 660 /dev/video0"
[07:38] <wolferine> camorama gives the came issue
[07:40] <wolferine> even changed the group to my user
[07:40] <wolferine> and doesnt work either
[07:40] <llutz> wolferine: sry, no idea then. "quickcam" should have created that device with proper permissions when it is loaded.
[07:40] <wolferine> sudo rmmod gspca quickcam
[07:40] <wolferine> what did that do?
[07:41] <wolferine> remove the driver?
[07:41] <llutz> wolferine: unload modules gspca and quickcam
[07:41] <wolferine> ah
[07:41] <wolferine> but my qucikcam module was still loaded wasnt it?
[07:41] <wolferine> videodev               28160  1 quickcam
[07:41] <llutz> wolferine: you've loaded it after that with modprobe... again
[07:42] <wolferine> oh right
[07:42] <enzo_> I can't play AVI's. Any idea?
[07:42] <wolferine> in the ls, what is a file type c mean?
[07:42] <llutz> wolferine: try "sudo rmmod quickcam videodev && sudo modprobe quickcam"
[07:42] <llutz> wolferine: maybe videodev creates the /dev/video0 correct this time
[07:43] <enzo_> I get the error message "No plugin found to handle this resource (path/filename.avi)
[07:43] <wolferine> nope
[07:43] <wolferine> nothing again
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: you won't get any output if the module loads correct
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video0"
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: should look like  "crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-04-29 19:36 /dev/video0"
[07:44] <wolferine> gives the same output as before
[07:44] <wolferine> do I need to create a video group?
[07:45] <llutz> wolferine: it should exist. "id" tells you in which groups you are
[07:45] <wolferine> right
[07:45] <wolferine> im in it
[07:45] <Smoke2k> ok kin folk
[07:45] <Smoke2k> this is nuts
[07:46] <Smoke2k> right off the bat I gotta say this kubuntu is by far superior to anything i have used
[07:46] <vecina> How come the splash loading screen for kubuntu makes my monitor lose signal? xserver-xorg is configured for fglrx and i have a radeon x700.
[07:46] <Smoke2k> I briefly installed libranet distro long time ago and was quite happy with it
[07:46] <vecina> i have to use recovery mode each and every time to bypass it
[07:46] <Smoke2k> never had time to set it up
[07:46] <anon32> !framebuffer | vecina
[07:46] <ubotu> vecina: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:46] <wolferine> so could something else be using the device?
[07:46] <Smoke2k> but my live cd has one fatal flaw
[07:46] <wolferine> could it be a bad driver?
[07:46] <Smoke2k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[07:46] <Smoke2k> the first step to this help is not included
[07:46] <llutz> wolferine: sorry, no further ideas here. maybe check google for quickcam-issues
[07:46] <wolferine> could I be referencing the device incorrectly
[07:47] <Smoke2k> I cann't find anything under administration in kmenu
[07:47] <Smoke2k> under system it should have that
[07:47] <enzo_> Anybody here having issues viewing AVI files?
[07:47] <Smoke2k> do I have to install this to set this up properly
[07:47] <anon32> no
[07:47] <vecina> I dont get a black screen, guys. My monitor literally loses signal. The light on it goes from green to orange
[07:47] <anon32> enzo_, btw, AVI is not a codec... repeat after me... AVI is not a codec... AVI is not a codec...
[07:47] <wolferine> can I tell you anything from my device manager?
[07:47] <anon32> vecina, it's the same problem
[07:47] <Smoke2k> heh anon
[07:47] <wolferine> just to confirm its correct?
[07:48] <Smoke2k> yea i would just get vlc and proper codec
[07:48] <vecina> anon32: Really. Okay.... thanks :)
[07:48] <enzo_> anon32: I didn't say it was a codec. It's what the error message says.
[07:48] <tero> anyone has tried beryi with nvidia & amd64?
[07:48] <tero> my X crashes
[07:48] <Smoke2k> man i have got it on my other computer
[07:48] <llutz> wolferine: " lsof /dev/video0"
[07:48] <Smoke2k> beryl is friggin sweet
[07:48] <Smoke2k> my buddy set it up for me
[07:48] <Smoke2k> i am going to put it on here
[07:48] <Smoke2k> just learning linux
[07:48] <vecina> Second question: why do i have to reinstall dbus every time i log in? It turns to 0 kbs and i cant automount anything
[07:48] <Smoke2k> i read about linux and shell years ago
[07:48] <wolferine> llutz, no output
[07:48] <Smoke2k> man has it progressed
[07:48] <enzo_> Smoke2k: I have Beryl on my desktop.
[07:49] <Smoke2k> it made vistas stocks go down when it came out
[07:49] <Smoke2k> :D
[07:49] <Smoke2k> tell me that is not badass
[07:49] <tero> any idea why X segfaults when I run beryl? drivers and Opengl seems to be working
[07:49] <llutz> wolferine i give up :)
[07:49] <Smoke2k> I cann't believe no one has ran this cd live
[07:49] <Smoke2k> wtf
[07:49] <wolferine> well thanks anyways llutz
[07:50] <Smoke2k> if anything mouse working would be sufficient
[07:50] <cox377_> can anyone recommend a good avi2dvd app?
[07:50] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:51] <wolferine> cox tovid
[07:51] <llutz> wolferine: thing is: there shouldn't be a /dev/video0 if no module is loaded. Your device existed before and i don't know how to find out why.
[07:51] <wolferine> llutz i have no idea about all this
[07:51] <wolferine> im just going by what you asked me to do
[07:52] <enzo_> anon32: So what's your answer now?
[07:52] <llutz> wolferine: so i aked the wrong things, good luck anyway
[07:52] <llutz> asked
[07:52] <anon32> !restrictedformats | enzo_
[07:52] <ubotu> enzo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <wolferine> llutz, it was a good start
[07:54] <wolferine> llutz I have a video, video0 and video1
[07:54] <wolferine> does that matter?
[07:54] <llutz> wolferine: all with same permissions? "ls -l..."
[07:55] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video*"
[07:55] <Smoke2k> can somone please verify something for me
[07:55] <ultraata> what?
[07:55] <wolferine> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2007-04-29 02:01 video -> /dev/video0
[07:55] <Smoke2k> I really need to know if I am just missing install window on this thing
[07:55] <wolferine> crw-rw---- 1 root profx 81, 0 2007-04-29 02:01 video0
[07:55] <Smoke2k> I mean administration
[07:55] <wolferine> crw-r--r-- 1 root root 81, 1 2007-04-29 02:01 video1
[07:55] <Smoke2k> i need synaptic package manager
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I also need my tracking pad to work
[07:56] <llutz> wolferine: whats your local time?
[07:56] <wolferine> pst
[07:56] <llutz> means?
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I am about to have 100mb 1500terrabyte warez server
[07:56] <wolferine> oh
[07:56] <wolferine> 10:56 am
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I am tired of fucking around
[07:56] <tresko22> Hi, I need to modprobe my old 3c509 card every time I boot up, are there any auto modprobe option at boot time?
[07:56] <Daviey> !ohmy
[07:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:56] <Smoke2k> help me and i will make it worth your while
[07:56] <anon32> !warez
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <wolferine> !language | Smoke2k
[07:56] <llutz> wolferine: *g thx, the device were created 8h ago
[07:56] <ubotu> Smoke2k: please see above
[07:56] <anon32> lol
[07:56] <Smoke2k> i mean gb not terrabyte
[07:57] <Smoke2k> :)
[07:57] <Smoke2k> well atleast the bots can help me with my language
[07:57] <wolferine> llutz, which means?
[07:57] <llutz> Smoke2k: echo "3c509" >> /etc/modules (if the module is named so)
[07:57] <llutz> wolferine: is that the time you started your computer?
[07:57] <Smoke2k> mmm run in shell?
[07:58] <wolferine> no, i pulled the camera out, and put it into a new usb port
[07:58] <Smoke2k> i mean konsole
[07:58] <montero61> hi
[07:58] <Smoke2k> yea it told me 3059 back
[07:58] <llutz> Smoke2k: sudo echo "3c509" >> /etc/modules (if the module is named so) in a console
[07:59] <Smoke2k> no sorry it says permission denied
[07:59] <llutz> wolferine: i meant: is 02:01 the time you started your computer?
[07:59] <montero61> tanks for creation of kubuntus am am live in santiago de chile latinamerica
[07:59] <montero61> veri tanks
[07:59] <wolferine> llutz, no
[07:59] <montero61> :)
[07:59] <tresko22> llutz: thanx :)
[07:59] <Smoke2k> so should i go about installing this
[07:59] <Smoke2k> basically i am running my kernel from cd and cann't properly administrate this
[07:59] <Smoke2k> right
[08:00] <Smoke2k> If I installed it I would have access to that
[08:00] <Smoke2k> it was telling me about using sudo on my wifi application too when it couldn't pick up my network
[08:00] <Smoke2k> llutz you think i am just creating a hassle for myself by not installing it?
[08:01] <Smoke2k> if wifi is more stable on kubuntu i will let you be first in my server
[08:02] <Smoke2k> i can prolly give ya 100k for now until i get my main one built
[08:02] <Smoke2k> i got quite a bit of good stuff
[08:02] <wolferine> give me a break
[08:02] <Smoke2k> www.myspace.com/carygray
[08:02] <Smoke2k> check out 3-6 mafia blog
[08:02] <wolferine> hey llutz gone afk?
[08:02] <lontra> !medibuntu
[08:02] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:03] <Smoke2k> what about beryl where should i go to get big self extracting package that gives me everything
[08:03] <Smoke2k> my friend was telling me but he is not awake
[08:03] <llutz> wolferine: some more jobs to do .)
[08:03] <wolferine> l
[08:03] <wolferine> k, thanks
[08:04] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:04] <yaccin> mine works ootb
[08:04] <yaccin> its just a little buggy
[08:05] <wolferine> yaccin, what is your camera in lsusb
[08:05] <yaccin> one moment
[08:05] <pestilence> is there any good "post-it" type software for ubuntu?  something you can put stickies on your desktop with notes to yourself?
[08:05] <yaccin> have to plug it in
[08:05] <yaccin> :D
[08:05] <pestilence> s/ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:06] <yaccin> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 046d:0920 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[08:06] <bartek> pestilence: tried knotes? should be in utilities
[08:06] <wolferine> yaccin, using feisty?
[08:07] <montero61> good bay
[08:07] <pestilence> bartek: that's it!  thanks
[08:07] <montero61> nos vemos amigos
[08:07] <don> I just tried creative web nx it loaded but it says it cant find cammara
[08:08] <bartek> pestilence: there are much more things, just lokk around. you might like basket. but you need to apt-get it first
[08:08] <phratman> pestilence: KNotes, notes, tomboy... use apt-cache search
[08:09] <pestilence> phratman: thanks
[08:13] <llutz> wolferine: use the search on http://ubuntuforums.org , there are lots of messages
[08:14] <wolferine> llutz, yeah, I have been researching on the forums
[08:15] <llutz> wolferine: easier to buy a new cam :)
[08:16] <Gearman> Hi all i am new to ubuntu i am trying to get my external monitor to work on my laptop hp nx7400 can someone help me please?
[08:17] <don> go into bios and make shure it is on
[08:17] <FireTalon> anyone have any screenshots of kde4?
[08:18] <don> bios german
[08:18] <yaccin> Firelooks like kde3
[08:18] <yaccin> FireTalon:
[08:18] <apokryphos> FireTalon: there's a live cd available, no need to look at screenies ;)
[08:19] <wolferine> llutz, i did that with my video card :)
[08:19] <wolferine> hey, btw, I just found this llutz
[08:19] <wolferine> sudo camorama
[08:19] <wolferine> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:19] <yaccin> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Four+Live?content=57117
[08:19] <apokryphos> FireTalon: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2785
[08:19] <wolferine> sound issues?
[08:22] <Dezine> Hi everybody, I'm looking for some high quality versions of the Kubuntu logo to make some stuff with. I have seen the ones on the site, I was curious if there are any bigger versions anywhere, google was no help :)
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> Dezine: Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kubuntu_Logo.svg
[08:23] <Dezine> o
[08:23] <denis> hello
[08:23] <Dezine> yeah that's a good size
[08:24] <SSJ_GZ> Dezine: It's an SVG, so you can make it as big as you want =)
[08:24] <Dezine> thanks :) wanna make some wallpapers and stuff for myspace
[08:24] <Dezine> cool
[08:25] <pollyo> Any idea why feisty would autodetect a network card on installation but not when booting from the harddrive?
[08:26] <denis> I have some problems with k-feisty+nvidia..... kdm starts with 1024x768@85, but when i login in kde it changes to 1024x768@87i *INTERLACES* it hurts my eyes very bad, somebody had the same problem?
[08:27] <denis> if i run nvidia-settings I can change it back to  1024x768@85, but in everytime i boot i have the same issue
[08:27] <Graham> Don't use nividia-settings it's shite.
[08:27] <hsystem-x> check the xorg settings.
[08:27] <Graham> I command thee to use this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:28] <denis> xorg is OK
[08:28] <Graham> Negative.
[08:28] <denis> kdm boots in 85hz progressive
[08:28] <Graham> I want an LCD monitor, CTR sucks.
[08:29] <chronos> hum
[08:29] <chronos> people
[08:29] <denis> system-settings-> screen shows 50-55hz
[08:29] <anon32> Graham, yeah, CTR sucks so much... that it doesn't even exist!
[08:29] <chronos> kubuntu needs a fast access to konsole on livecd
[08:29] <alx_> hi
[08:29] <Dezine> Hm I like my CRT :D
[08:29] <chronos> one konsole icon is the best
[08:30] <epimeth> konverstion was open, can't be bothered to search online :-) ... what packages do I need for fully integrated apache2+ php + mysql
[08:30] <epimeth> ?
[08:30] <alx_> men
[08:30] <Graham> chronos: Mines an old one that I nicked from school because my old one was chipped.
[08:30] <alx_> do you know why kommando didn't work with the new kubuntu?
[08:30] <Dezine> lcd monitors don't seem to refresh enough
[08:30] <Graham> piss! brb.
[08:31] <anon32> yeah, a good LCD is soo much more expensive
[08:31] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:31] <Graham> My webcam is suicidal, it just jumped off my desk.
[08:31] <Dezine> lol
[08:32] <Graham> Out of interest, who here isn't using Koversation?
[08:32] <denis> me
[08:32] <firecrotch> epimeth: apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[08:32] <firecrotch> Graham: Me (Gaim)
[08:32] <firecrotch> er... pidgen
[08:33] <don> mine mite as well
[08:33] <Dezine> I like gaim myself, but sometimes I'm on Trillian (when I'm on windows).
[08:33] <epimeth> cheers firecrotch
[08:34] <firecrotch> epimeth: No problem.  I'm sorta the server guy in the room here (using Ubuntu on my dedicated webserver)
[08:34] <Graham> I don't think there's a good IRC client for Windows, you have to buy xchat, mirc sucks... I go with that irc add on for firefox.
[08:34] <epimeth> firecrotch: will be doing that myself very soon :-)
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Graham: not true.
[08:34] <Dezine> Yeah, I've been using mirc for years but like xchat a lot more
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Graham: xchat builds are free, there's irssi, and hydrairc
[08:35] <unix_infidel> I personally use irssi in win32
[08:35] <yaccin> konversation :)
[08:35] <unix_infidel> iirc, there's kvirc for win32 2
[08:35] <yaccin> Graham: theres xchat2 for windows
[08:35] <Graham> I like konversation, it's just simple.
[08:35] <yaccin> and its free
[08:35] <epimeth> firecrotch: you got an email?  I might appreciate some help when it comes down to the nitty gritty....
[08:36] <yaccin> Graham: http://silverex.org/news/
[08:36] <firecrotch> epimeth: pm?
[08:36] <Graham> hmmm?
[08:36] <epimeth> firecrotch: sure, thats good too
[08:38] <yaccin> Graham: free xchat2 for windows
[08:38] <yaccin> :)
[08:38] <baldie> !network
[08:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <eli_> hello
[08:39] <Graham> yaccin: I see what you did there.
[08:41] <Graham> !help
[08:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:41] <jussi01> hei, can someone tell me how to keep logs of msn chats in kopete?
[08:41] <Graham> jussi01: Not to be a twat, but have you tried aMSN instead?
[08:42] <yaccin> jussi01: it autoamtically does
[08:42] <jussi01> Graham: yes, I like kopete
[08:42] <Graham> jussi01: Cool.
[08:42] <yaccin> rightclick on the contact to view the history (the contact, not the msn-icon!)
[08:42] <ultraata> does anyoune know is there any IM client for linux that supports ICQ extra status?
[08:42] <Graham> gaim maybe?
[08:42] <yaccin> i dont think so
[08:43] <jussi01> yaccin: that doesnt work...
[08:43] <ultraata> I mean extra status icons like hot-dog, beer etc
[08:43] <don> my web cam started working !
[08:43] <Graham> don: Want some delicious cake?
[08:44] <don> what?
[08:45] <don> there may be hope for kubuntu yet
[08:45] <Graham> DELICIOUS CAKE! YOU MUST EAT IT!
[08:45] <don> grahm, what cake??
[08:46] <don> na
[08:46] <tomg> hi all, i need a project for college, and (being the kind soul i am), would like to help out the oss community at the same time. Does anyone know of any programs/projects that people would like to see?
[08:46] <Graham> don: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8349/recipultimatechocolatecake0ra.jpg
[08:47] <don> ya what kind of cake he has
[08:47] <Graham> tomg: Something that has nothing to do with OSS preferably.
[08:48] <don> i looked
[08:48] <Graham> !alsa
[08:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:48] <jussi01> tomg: what sort of project does it have to be?
[08:48] <don> what is that stuff on the cake?
[08:48] <Graham> don: CAKE MIX!
[08:48] <radu> tomg: pretty hard to find smth which was not  already done.
[08:48] <Graham> alsa ROOLS!
[08:48] <tomg> jussi01: theres no real restriction on it, i think they prefer thing to do with maths, but not essential
[08:49] <don> strange
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> Graham: i think he meant oss as in open source software
[08:49] <tomg> radu: i no, thats the trouble lol
[08:49] <Graham> tomg: Do you mean open source software or the open sound system?
[08:49] <Pete_> hm, something odd has happened, my system seems to have not booted with a SMP kernel. Why would that happen
[08:50] <Graham> !grub Pete_
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub pete_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Graham> !grub
[08:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:50] <tomg> Graham: open source software
[08:50] <Graham> ubotu: sucks ass.
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks ass. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Graham> :P
[08:50] <jussi01> Graham: you need a | between the factoid and the name
[08:51] <Graham> tomg: Program a machine that that can calculate the meaning of life, the universe and everything.
[08:51] <don> eat some cake and calm down
[08:51] <tinin> Hi, is anyone runnig Compiz on Feisty ???
[08:51] <fit4lfe_> I have a 56 inch hd  television and feisty almost pull it off were the whole screen would show
[08:51] <jussi01> tinin: #ubuntu-effects
[08:51] <tomg> Graham: oh i already did that one last week
[08:51] <don> what is it
[08:51] <tinin> jussi01 thanx
[08:51] <fit4lfe_> how can I can full screen effects
[08:51] <Graham> tomg: Hmm...
[08:52] <Graham> tomg: I'll be serious now.
[08:52] <tomg> Graham: lol thanks :D
[08:52] <tomg> Graham: so do you yourself have a program that you feel is missing from ubuntu?
[08:52] <bartek> tomg: in which language du prefer to program?
[08:52] <Graham> I'm thinking...
[08:53] <bartek> tomg *do you
[08:53] <tomg> bartek: id like to go for c/c++
[08:53] <tomg> bartek: but its not set in stone
[08:53] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:54] <don> use wwine it worked for me with creative nx
[08:54] <kamikaze> tomg: how much time do you want to invest in the project?
[08:54] <bartek> tomg: you could try one of the bigger kde desktop projects, improving little by little. Think amaroK
[08:54] <baldie> sorry to interrupt.. but what do you want to develop, tomg ?
[08:54] <tomg> kamikaze: i have a few months
[08:54] <Graham> What about a program that automaticly mounts devices and stuff that's plugged in?
[08:55] <don> good idea
[08:55] <Graham> I mean... KDE does something similar, but it's... really crap.
[08:55] <bartek> Graham: ehh kde already has this?
[08:55] <don> better crossover
[08:55] <tomg> baldie: i really have to start one from scratch, they dont like you to take stuff and build on it
[08:55] <bartek> Graham: don't think so. it works for me
[08:55] <tomg> Graham: lol
[08:55] <leileilol> hmm
[08:56] <tomg> Graham: is fine 4 me too
[08:56] <kamikaze> Graham: isn't that what HAL is for? wait for kde4, it is called solid ;)
[08:56] <leileilol> i have kubuntu feisty test installed still, there's a way to upgrade that to the final release right
[08:56] <baldie> tomg: do I understand you correct if I say you are new to programming and wanna develop for Kubuntu/Ubuntu ?
[08:56] <Graham> When I plug my camera in it sees 2 devices, it sees my camera as a device and mass USB, if I try to load the camera as a device it screws up. But it works when I load the mass USB space.
[08:57] <Graham> !upgrade | leileilol
[08:57] <ubotu> leileilol: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:57] <tomg> baldie: i have done programming before, but mainly web based stuff (php etc...) but i want to get into the desktop for this next project
[08:57] <baldie> ok
[08:57] <leileilol> yeah but that's edgy > feisty
[08:57] <leileilol> not feisty test > feisty
[08:57] <Graham> CLICK IT!
[08:58] <smoke2k> good evening people
[08:58] <baldie> tomg: I don't know anything about it.. I'm kind'a in the same situation as you, except that my goal atm just is to learn C, and not to do anything specific :>
[08:58] <smoke2k> damn i didn't know i had to install synaptic package manager therough apt get
[08:58] <smoke2k> i didn't stop to think about it
[08:58] <baldie> tomg: I've also done a lot of php etc
[08:58] <FireTalon> whats wrong with adept?
[08:58] <smoke2k> I hope that resolves problems i have with tracking pad and wifi
[08:58] <tomg> baldie: yea, but i found the best way to learn a language is to do a project with it
[08:58] <leileilol> i did click it
[08:59] <smoke2k> well let me check out two pages I have found to fix my computer
[08:59] <smoke2k> I am still in the dark here but I am learning
[08:59] <Graham> Go to feisty upgrades.
[08:59] <tomg> baldie: ill give you my email address if you want, we can always start up something on sf.net if you want?
[08:59] <baldie> tomg: idd... but I'm having a forced C course right now during my education (mathematics), so I have a lot of exercises to do.. and I don't have any time besides that atm.. but in the summer maybe
[08:59] <baldie> sure, although I don't think I'm up for anything before July
[09:00] <tomg> baldie: sure, thats the main reason i want to get into it, ill be studying maths at uni, and they say it helps to know c
[09:00] <baldie> ah cool :>
[09:01] <kamikaze> tomg: WHAT?
[09:01] <smoke2k> well it seems like i saved this in html form not where i can see addy
[09:01] <smoke2k> let me look for addy again
[09:01] <tomg> kamikaze: ?
[09:02] <tomg> anyway, if anyone has any ideas, let me know, my email is tomjamesgillespie at googlemail dot com
[09:02] <tomg> cyall later
[09:03] <smoke2k> i don't know could someone just help me install synaptic package manager through apt get
[09:03] <smoke2k> i would be happy enough
[09:04] <llutz> smoke2k: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:05] <wolferine> parle vous en francais?
[09:05] <baldie> I have a question.. I've messed up KNetworkManager (oh well not me, but it's bugged on me) ... how do I fix it ?? remove with purge and reinstall, or?
[09:05] <smoke2k> motherfucker
[09:05] <smoke2k> apt-get update won't work for me
[09:06] <smoke2k> sorry for the swearing
[09:06] <Tm_T> !fr | wolferine
[09:06] <smoke2k> it tells me I have wrong permissions
[09:06] <ubotu> wolferine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <llutz> smoke2k: sudo...
[09:06] <smoke2k> i am logged into root
[09:07] <kamikaze> smoke2k: type "id" and paste here the output
[09:07] <smoke2k> that was unusual
[09:07] <smoke2k> it made my usb harddrive spin
[09:08] <smoke2k> smoke2k@smoke2k-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:08] <smoke2k> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:08] <smoke2k> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:08] <jussi01> smoke2k: close adept
[09:08] <smoke2k> i put in my password and it did nothing
[09:09] <smoke2k> oh ok
[09:09] <smoke2k> thx
[09:09] <smoke2k> I guess I will just chat here till I am done updating
[09:09] <smoke2k> did yall see my viacom whore page
[09:09] <smoke2k> I appreciate the help
[09:10] <smoke2k> wish it would allow me to fix wifi though
[09:10] <Tm_T> smoke2k: you really should clean your takl
[09:10] <smoke2k> maybe i just need command line reference for that
[09:10] <smoke2k> I think I actually pasted the two google pages I found
[09:10] <smoke2k> my vocabulary is rather inept for this
[09:10] <smoke2k> but that is beside the point I suppose
[09:11] <jussi01> !enter | smoke2k
[09:11] <ubotu> smoke2k: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:11] <smoke2k> my computer nerd talent has been being geared back up for deployment
[09:12] <Freddy2> hi
[09:13] <ejupin> I'm trying to use Skype with my usb microphone. But it doesnt work, any ideas?
[09:13] <jussi01> !hi | Freddy2
[09:13] <ubotu> Freddy2: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:13] <jussi01> ejupin: do you have the device selected in skype settings?
[09:13] <eternal_p> trippen: why not go vanilla kernel and build everything from scratch
[09:13] <ejupin> jussi01:yes
[09:13] <Graham> ejupin: Does it work anyway?
[09:13] <Graham> Like, not in skype?
[09:14] <Skyblast> ejupin: Did you go to Tools > Options and select it in Sound Devices
[09:14] <ejupin> Graham:yes, works..and works in xp skype
[09:14] <WillLuongo> Has anyone had success in getting a linksys pci wifi card working in Kubuntu/
[09:14] <lettuce> I installed Kubuntu on my sister's dell laptop, but it can't acces the internet. Are there any special dell network card drivers that I can get? Or is it just hopeless?
[09:14] <Graham> Windows skype is quite different from Linux skype, they took all the fucking features out of it!!!
[09:14] <ejupin> Skyblast: thought so, i will check again
[09:14] <ejupin> graham:yeah i know that :)
[09:15] <snowdonkey> They took features out of the windows version or linux one?
[09:15] <ejupin> snowdonkey:linux
[09:15] <Graham> Linux.
[09:15] <snowdonkey> ah, thanks.
[09:15] <Graham> Seriously you can do all sorts of funky stuff on Windows, and they're such ASSHOLES on Linux!
[09:15] <Skyblast> !language
[09:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:16] <ejupin> graham: i love the windows version, use it all the time for business
[09:16] <jussi01> lettuce: which card is it?
[09:16] <lettuce> no idea
[09:16] <Graham> I like skype because it's good.
[09:16] <elvirolo> hi
[09:16] <Skyblast> I think the Mac version of Skype is the worst of them all
[09:16] <elvirolo> is there a guide somewhere about installing compiz on kde ?
[09:16] <Graham> I can call people, well better than MSN and their acronoun soup.
[09:16] <anon32> skype = fail...
[09:16] <anon32> !compiz | elvirolo
[09:16] <ubotu> elvirolo: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:16] <Graham> anon32: Negative, meatstick.
[09:17] <jussi01> lettuce: you need to find that out, I would imagine its broadcomm, and thats a pain
[09:17] <ejupin> skyblast:i agree, a business associate tries to use it on a mac and complains all the time
[09:17] <Graham> Is the mac version any better?
[09:17] <elvirolo> anon32: thank you :)
[09:17] <smoke2k> wow that sux because I am about to use skype for mac
[09:17] <smoke2k> I am going to put speak easy on it
[09:17] <jussi01> Graham: have you seen gizmo - its great!!
[09:17] <smoke2k> If i have to could I run skype through wine?>
[09:17] <Skyblast> The Mac version is a little disorganized and seems to be missing a few features as well
[09:17] <Graham> jussi01: What the hell is gizmo?
[09:18] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:18] <ejupin> smoke2k:the mac version doesnt even allow you to initiate a conference call, and we use that all the time, i have to start it with windows
[09:18] <Skyblast> yes, and if you are in a skypecast or call where you have to ask permission to talk, you literally CAN'T on the Mac client. There's no request to talk button
[09:18] <jussi01> Graham: http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[09:18] <smoke2k> yea my friends used to hack conference calls
[09:18] <Whiz2> midi doesn't work on my system. any ideas?
[09:18] <smoke2k> back in the day
[09:19] <Graham> Why is it better than skype?
[09:19] <smoke2k> this mac version is indigenous to kubuntu for ppc we aren't speaking of skype for mac
[09:20] <jussi01> Graham: free calls to landlines for one?
[09:20] <Whiz2> can someone help me? midi sounds don't seem to work, but other sounds do.
[09:21] <Graham> jussi01: Tempting.
[09:21] <yaccin> Inexpensive add-ons that let you make and receive calls from any mobile phone or landline
[09:21] <yaccin> @jussi1
[09:21] <yaccin> 01
[09:21] <Graham> Skype has that.
[09:21] <yaccin> landline calls are not free
[09:21] <yaccin> neither with skype nor with gizmo
[09:21] <Graham>  Inexpensive add-ons that let you make and receive calls from any mobile phone or landline
[09:21] <yaccin> ^^
[09:21] <Graham> I said skype has that.
[09:21] <yaccin> [21:21]  <jussi01> Graham: free calls to landlines for one?
[09:22] <spitwise> yo -- what command shows me my default gateway ip?
[09:22] <jussi01> yaccin: i call my brother for free all the time...
[09:22] <spitwise> ifconfig ain't tellin me
[09:22] <llutz> spitwise: route -n
[09:22] <spitwise> sweet tnx
[09:22] <yaccin> jussi01: its not landline then...
[09:23] <voidmage> Anyone else disappointed with the new features gnome gets as opposed to kde?
[09:23] <anon32> Gnome has features?
[09:23] <voidmage> erm
[09:23] <imagine> lol
[09:23] <voidmage> things that ubuntu put in
[09:23] <voidmage> like restricted-manager and easycodecs
[09:23] <jussi01> yaccin: it certainly is!!!!!
[09:23] <voidmage> that kind of stuff
[09:23] <yaccin> anon32: LOL
[09:23] <yaccin> jussi01: o.O
[09:23] <yaccin> voidmage: i dont need those :P
[09:23] <anon32> voidmage, meh, restricted-manager doesn't work and I don't use gstreamer
[09:23] <anon32> so it's kind of a null point
[09:24] <yaccin> voidmage: just installed nvidia-glx-new and libxine-extracodecs
[09:24] <yaccin> :P
[09:24] <voidmage> good enoughthen
[09:24] <voidmage> :P
[09:24] <jussi01> yaccin:
[09:24] <jussi01> Call those contacts on
[09:24] <jussi01> Gizmo, their mobile phone
[09:24] <jussi01> or landline for free*
[09:24] <yaccin> what says the * ?
[09:24] <yaccin> :
[09:24] <yaccin> :P
[09:24] <jussi01> yaccin: we need to take this offtopic....
[09:26] <Graham> Gizmo will cost money, it costs to call landlines.
[09:26] <Graham> Do you pay for signing up?
[09:26] <jussi01> Graham: no
[09:27] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:27] <Graham> So you're telling me, I can download and sign up for gizmo and phone a landline say... in the US and it'll cost me absolutely nothing?
[09:28] <Pete_> Im pretty sure its free to sign up still, but to call lines it costs
[09:28] <Graham> I shall try.
[09:28] <epimeth> what was the i915 package?
[09:29] <Pete_> not all that suitable if you have other contacts on skype I guess, but if you are using it for calling out im sure its fine
[09:29] <iga> hello
[09:29] <Graham> I'll try it, thing is everybody I know I've tried to get on skype from MSN, now I'll be getting them on gizmo from skype.
[09:29] <iga> can i ask a question
[09:29] <iga> ?
[09:30] <Graham> iga: No, go home.
[09:30] <iga> :)
[09:30] <iga> why?
[09:30] <Graham> Of course you can ask a question you turnip, it's a help channel!
[09:31] <iga> where can i get some softwave?
[09:31] <WillLuongo> iga did you try Adept?
[09:32] <Graham> jussi01: You didn't answer :P
[09:32] <iga> what do  you meen?
[09:32] <WillLuongo> iga: If you go to the menu, then system, then adept you can search for software in precompiled packages
[09:32] <WillLuongo> it is very easy to install things this way
[09:33] <smoke2k> well folks
[09:33] <smoke2k> :(
[09:33] <Graham> What is softwave?
[09:33] <smoke2k> cann't seem to get wifi to work
[09:33] <iga> oh thanx
[09:33] <smoke2k> i got ndiswrapper from synaptic
[09:33] <smoke2k> it still didn't get it to work
[09:33] <Graham> Then you should be in #ubuntu :P
[09:34] <smoke2k> i guess i should have tried to do all this before wiping my mac out
[09:34] <iga> WillLuongo thanx
[09:34] <WillLuongo> iga you are very welcome
[09:34] <Graham> jussi01: Oi! Gizmo isn't working!
[09:35] <Graham> Wait it's done now.
[09:35] <smoke2k> Search out the section "InputDevice" under which Driver is set to "synaptics", comment the whole section out or delete it, and paste the following to its place:
[09:35] <stoft> !beryl
[09:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:35] <smoke2k> where is this?
[09:35] <Graham> !skype
[09:35] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:35] <Graham> !gizmo
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Graham> !women because I am sad.
[09:36] <Graham> Awww.... bot abuse.
[09:36] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:36] <Graham> yaccin: Are you there? Does Gizmo have the same features in Windows as it does in Linux?
[09:37] <yaccin> i dont know
[09:37] <yaccin> i dont use gizmo
[09:38] <Graham> This gizmo account maker is being really shitty.
[09:46] <Graham> Awesome, I phones myself with gizmo for free.
[09:46] <Graham> Sounds like a marketing ploy.
[09:46] <kaner_> is there a way to "boost" the mic?  When i record something it sounds very very very faint
[09:47] <Graham> Turn mic volume up.
[09:48] <llutz> kaner_: switch on mic-boost in your mixer
[09:48] <wolferine> llutz, still working on it:/
[09:49] <wolferine> think you can give me a bit more time?
[09:49] <llutz> wolferine: don't give up! :)
[09:49] <llutz> wolferine: sure
[09:49] <dell190> how can i put the firefox icon in the K-menu
[09:49] <wolferine> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/webcam_logitech_msn?s=amsn
[09:49] <wolferine> i was using this a reference
[09:49] <wolferine> but I have an issue with make all
[09:49] <wolferine> my device is: 046D:08F5
[09:49] <wolferine> just about hafl way down the page
[09:50] <wolferine> im trying not to, but I am almost at the end :/
[09:50] <wolferine> ill paste the make all in pastebin
[09:50] <wolferine> brb
[09:50] <kaner_> llutz: did, is there anyway to boost it more?
[09:50] <kaner_> the mike works properly in windoze
[09:50] <kaner_> er mic
[09:50] <llutz> kaner_: use win :)
[09:51] <kaner_> well i dont have a windows installation anymore
[09:51] <kaner_> havent for years
[09:51] <wolferine> llutz: http://pastebin.ca/464914
[09:51] <msak007> hey everybody
[09:51] <kaner_> but i tested the mic on a buddies comp
[09:51] <epimeth> what was the i915 package?  I forgot...
[09:52] <llutz> wolferine: you haven't installed the kernel-sources
[09:52] <fdoving> epimeth: the resolution one?
[09:52] <jussi01> epimeth: just search i915 on adept
[09:52] <msak007> anybody here having problems with kmail in feisty?
[09:52] <llutz> wolferine: or at least the kernel-headers
[09:52] <llutz> epimeth: 915resolution?
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[09:52] <wolferine> llutz, how would I do so?
[09:53] <llutz> wolferine: sudo aptitude install linux-kernel-header-$(uname -r)
[09:53] <pestilence> newsletter...subscribe...thx
[09:53] <jovans> does fesity use swap?
[09:53] <wolferine> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-kernel-header-2.6.20-15-generic"
[09:53] <anon32> yes
[09:53] <pestilence> jovans: it can
[09:53] <epimeth> llutz: cheers :-)
[09:53] <jovans> i have read something about vm.swappiness=
[09:53] <anon32> jovans, please, when you find an OS that can't use swap, come back :-)
[09:54] <jovans> feisty don't use my swap it only use my RAM
[09:54] <llutz> wolferine: sudo aptitude install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:54] <fdoving> jovans: yes, it uses swap. you can adjust how swappy it is with the sappiness.
[09:54] <msak007> anybody using kmail in feisty?
[09:54] <llutz> jovans: fine
[09:54] <pestilence> !anybody
[09:54] <jussi01> !anyone | msak007
[09:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:54] <ubotu> msak007: please see above
[09:55] <jovans> i have add vm.swappiness=100 to /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot but fesity use either my RAM
[09:55] <wolferine> nothing
[09:55] <msak007> sorry
[09:55] <wolferine> how about I just give you my uname -r :/
[09:55] <pestilence> !sorry
[09:55] <wolferine> 2.6.20-15-generic
[09:55] <wolferine> lol
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <pestilence> :-D
[09:55] <llutz> wolferine: sry, too late today. next try: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:55] <shyboy> guys is there a fix for wifi bcm43xx ?
[09:55] <msak007> well i have a problem with kmail that started with feisty...any email that comes directly into an inbox (not filtered into another folder through a POP filter) comes in as "Unknown" for the sender
[09:55] <jovans> enxone a idea?
[09:55] <WillLuongo> I can't get wifi working on a Linksys PCI card. Is it possible at all? If so, how difficult is it and can anyone help me?
[09:56] <fdoving> jovans: how much ram?
[09:56] <wolferine> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:56] <wolferine> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:56] <jovans> 1 GB
[09:56] <wolferine> already installed llutz
[09:56] <msak007> subject is blank, body is blank, and date is 12/13/69
[09:56] <wolferine> as I had suspected
[09:56] <llutz> wolferine: locate config.h
[09:57] <fdoving> jovans: should start to use some swap after running for a while.
[09:57] <smoke2k> llutz
[09:57] <jovans> it cannot be activated to use on start some swap?
[09:57] <smoke2k> i am havin trouble still
[09:57] <wolferine> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic/include/config/x86/find/smp/config.h
[09:57] <smoke2k> i need to find help with
[09:57] <smoke2k> 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Subsystem: Apple Computer Inc. Unknown device 4318
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 16, IRQ 52
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Memory at 80084000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] 
[09:57] <wolferine> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic/include/config/i2o/config.h
[09:57] <wolferine> thats about the only meaningful ones
[09:58] <llutz> wolferine: line 16 in your paste
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: you have the same problem as me
[09:58] <fdoving> jovans: using memory triggers swapping at some point. there is no need to swap if there is enought memory to do everything you want and then some.
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: I also need a solution to that problem
[09:58] <fdoving> jovans: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management#Swappiness_.282.6_kernels.29
[09:58] <smoke2k> well good we are one in unison
[09:58] <smoke2k> how much googling have you been up to ?
[09:58] <llutz> smoke2k: broadcom, crap
[09:58] <WillLuongo> smoke2k I think I am in a similar boat
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: well I have just started
[09:59] <shyboy> smoke2k: seen some tips on ubuntu forums
[09:59] <wolferine> llutz, like it said, there isnt one
[09:59] <os2mac> broadcom should work in Kubuntu.
[09:59] <smoke2k> i have found help if i had airport extreme
[09:59] <smoke2k> but i don't
[09:59] <smoke2k> :(
[09:59] <smoke2k> have you tried all your forums help?
[09:59] <shyboy> llutz: well crap or not it came with freaking laptop so I am kinda stuck with it
[09:59] <WillLuongo> smoke2k shyboy I found this, haven't tried it yet: http://forums.windrivers.com/archive/index.php/t-67640.html
[09:59] <os2mac> smoke2k: what kind of computer do you have
[09:59] <os2mac> !ndiswrapper
[09:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <smoke2k> i have a mac g4
[09:59] <jovans> thx
[10:00] <WillLuongo> it is also a broadcom chipset
[10:00] <smoke2k> yea this thing is inside my computer
[10:00] <shyboy> WillLuongo: looking ..thanks
[10:00] <os2mac> !broadcom
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/464927
[10:00] <wolferine> that my locate config.h
[10:01] <Windows2000XPVIS> linux zealots keep banning me
[10:01] <Windows2000XPVIS> rude ppl
[10:01] <llutz> wolferine: guess you'll need the kernel-sources (README in qc-messen....)
[10:01] <Lynoure> Windows2000XPVIS: Did you have a support question?
[10:01] <shyboy> I posted error regarding this card before faisty hit stable and guys didnt fix it
[10:01] <shyboy> very odd
[10:02] <Windows2000XPVIS> Lynoure:  actually i have answer for wolferine
[10:02] <hagabaka> is there no kmenu entry for kwrite by default?
[10:02] <Windows2000XPVIS> symbolic link has to be created
[10:02] <Lynoure> :)
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> does anybody know how to install using dmraid?
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> and alternate cd
[10:03] <adaptr> set up partitions as linux raid, then create partitions in LVM
[10:03] <adaptr> us ethe normal CD
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> no i have windows partitions
[10:03] <anon32> !fakeraid
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> no can do
[10:03] <anon32> ..
[10:04] <Windows2000XPVIS> but dmraid works in suse and fedora...
[10:04] <stoft> anyone here have experience migrating seti@home data from win to linux?
[10:07] <spitwise> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-powerpc linux-restricted-modules-powerpc
[10:07] <aro> !rar
[10:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:08] <aro> !info unrar-free
[10:08] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:09] <smoke2k> wow this is a complete disaster
[10:09] <smoke2k> so pretty much this thing won't work with my wifi card
[10:09] <smoke2k> everywhere says to use ndiswrapper
[10:10] <jussi01> smoke2k: it should, you need to use ndiswrapper
[10:10] <neonlinux> morning all, anyone know whats running in kde that passes settings to gtk for themes?
[10:10] <Windows2000XPVIS> smoke2k: nothing wrong iwth it
[10:10] <smoke2k> i have got ndiswrapper
[10:10] <smoke2k> guy already said in here that it won't work
[10:10] <shyboy> smoke2k: well you need to use ndiswrraper ..hunting for a good howto
[10:11] <aro> Which wireless card do you have
[10:11] <shyboy> aro lspci reports bcm43xx and smoke2 has the same
[10:11] <llutz> wolferine: try to edit the file "quickcam.h" and change all "linux/config.h" into "linux/autoconf.h"
[10:11] <d0uglas> hi.. url for ipodding? and what's the name of that reverse-engineered itunes so my mom can pay for her music?
[10:11] <smoke2k> what puts the icing on the cake here is that my mouse won't barely move
[10:12] <Arwen> d0uglas, iTunes is evil, stay away from it
[10:12] <smoke2k> i have just wasted two days with this
[10:12] <smoke2k> yea itunes blows
[10:12] <shyboy> aro do yoy have any url for me that can help me fix this firmware issue
[10:12] <smoke2k> i was just gripping about that earlier
[10:12] <d0uglas> Arwen: okay.. so... how can my mom use linux and pay for music
[10:12] <d0uglas> relatively legally
[10:12] <d0uglas> or is that impossible
[10:12] <shyboy> d0uglas: learn your mom to use torrent :D
[10:12] <Arwen> there's magnatune, but really, since labels like DRM, you won't find any big name songs
[10:13] <Arwen> d0uglas, ^^
[10:13] <d0uglas> she already knows bittorrent .. gtk-gnutella too
[10:13] <d0uglas> she can't even use a cell phone but she knows that
[10:13] <wolferine> llutz, k, ill give it a try
[10:13] <Arwen> d0uglas, allofmp3.com? it's not at all legal, but it involves paying...
[10:13] <shyboy> d0uglas: cool mom I'd say :D ...so whats the problem anyway ..she can save $$ now
[10:14] <smoke2k> i messaged you shyboy
[10:14] <d0uglas> cool mom? how about cool son to rig it up kde to make her tansition from msft to linux happily
[10:14] <shyboy> smoke2k: you did ? I don't see nothing
[10:14] <d0uglas> s/happily/happy
[10:15] <shyboy> d0uglas: yeah... its your mom dude ..MANDATORY ;D
[10:15] <d0uglas> True.
[10:15] <d0uglas> maybe if i install linux on her phone she'll start using it
[10:15] <shyboy> smoke2k: I see no window with your prv msg ?!
[10:16] <Thorazine> Is there a Kubuntu Mobile :)
[10:16] <Windows2000XPVIS> yes
[10:16] <shyboy> d0uglas: he he ..that would be cool..all though I am in love with lates HTC phone running win 6.0
[10:17] <d0uglas> shyboy: when is htc gonna make a quad band vga qwerty slide out
[10:17] <smoke2k> sorry shyboy it didn't send
[10:17] <d0uglas> ie the universal plus the 850mhz range
[10:17] <smoke2k> i have to be registered or something
[10:17] <root> hola
[10:17] <spahija> smoke2k: well I am ..changed nick
[10:17] <neonlinux> so no ideas on what passes theme settings in kde to gtk?
[10:17] <wolferine> llutz, didnt work
[10:17] <spahija> smoke2k: paste it here please
[10:18] <smoke2k> just trying to make sure you stay in contact with me
[10:18] <smoke2k> because i need this fixed on top of mouse problems
[10:18] <smoke2k> this is serious problem
[10:18] <d0uglas> shyboy: your buy/sell/hold rating on htc's stock?
[10:18] <spahija> d0uglas: changed nick to spahija...and no I have no stocks ( I wish I had )
[10:19] <payam> hi
[10:19] <d0uglas> spahija: not asking if you own any, just wondering if you think it's a good investment
[10:19] <payam> What the hell shoul i do to download and install Wine?
[10:19] <spahija> d0uglas: ahh..sure... they are strong on market right now
[10:19] <Thorazine> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:20] <blekos> hi i'm looking for a frewware soft with gui for backup with advanced option. That is multiple backup jobs, incremental backups, de/ select folders etc
[10:20] <Thorazine> payam: before that: sudo apt-get update, of course
[10:20] <spahija> smoke2k: how about that link man ?
[10:20] <blekos> smg like Backup Exec
[10:20] <d0uglas> You know what I could do without? exit confirmation dialogs
[10:20] <payam> What should i do now?
[10:20] <d0uglas> we should phase them out or set them off by default
[10:20] <spahija> d0uglas: they are kinda informative dont you think ;)
[10:21] <payam> kubuntu-se
[10:21] <d0uglas> my alt-f4 command should be informative to the program
[10:21] <payam> CA you connect me to Kubuntu-se?
[10:21] <spahija> payam: hva er du snakker om ?
[10:21] <d0uglas> at least i got control alt backspace, that's pretty responsive
[10:21] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:21] <payam> Vill installera Wine
[10:22] <payam> kan du koppla upp mig till kubuntu -se
[10:22] <payam> Har glmt hur man gjorde
[10:22] <Pete_> wolferine: I'ver used one, except it was UVC
[10:22] <smoke2k> how come i cann't find vlc in synaptic manager
[10:22] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[10:22] <smoke2k> where is it
[10:22] <smoke2k> or what is it listed under
[10:22] <blekos> hi i'm looking for a frewware soft with gui for backup with advanced option. That is multiple backup jobs, incremental backups, de/ select folders etc
[10:22] <anon32> !repositories | smoke2k
[10:22] <ubotu> smoke2k: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:22] <Black_Cat> payam, /join #kubuntu-se
[10:22] <spahija> payam: look up
[10:23] <Thorazine> vlc is in multiverse or universe I think, check if those are enabled
[10:23] <wolferine> Pete_, what is UVC?
[10:23] <Pete_> usb video device class, similar in a way to usb mass storage device class
[10:24] <Pete_> (Only a few of the newer logitech cams support it)
[10:24] <bobstro> spahija: yes, i just did it in fact.. hang on
[10:24] <spahija> bobstro: sure m8..pass it to me..will ya
[10:24] <bobstro> spahija: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=ndiswrapper+dell
[10:25] <wolferine> Pete_, so you know a thing or two about how USB works with devices?
[10:25] <bobstro> spahija: i just followed it to get my dell d420 going in about 10 minutes with wpa/psk
[10:25] <spahija> bobstro: excellent...testing
[10:25] <michael> anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to work with feisty?
[10:25] <wolferine> michael, yes
[10:25] <Pete_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[10:25] <Pete_> wolferine: not really ;)
[10:25] <michael> do you have feisty?
[10:26] <Pete_> Yes
[10:26] <wolferine> Pete_, what type of cams are you using?
[10:26] <TheCreationist> How would I go about installing Beryl without using a 3rd party repository?
[10:26] <wolferine> TheCreationist, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:27] <TheCreationist> wolferine: Thanks
[10:27] <wolferine> np
[10:27] <michael> ok, well that command along with the enable command stoped kde from booting up and I had to reconfig xorg
[10:27] <wolferine> michael, so installing the drivers isnt the real question then
[10:28] <anon32> omg, wine is so cool! it can run minesweeper!
[10:28] <michael> I dont understand why it isnt working
[10:28] <Pete_> and notepad too
[10:28] <michael> I guess the real question is......   Is Feisty stable enough to be on my pc?    lol
[10:28] <anon32> michael, lol
[10:28] <Gamic> Feisty is very stable
[10:28] <Pete_> wolferine: only one of them is logitech, the rest are cheap ones which all work with the spca driver
[10:29] <wolferine> working great =! stable
[10:29] <wolferine> btw
[10:29] <anon32> OMG, wine can run minesweeper at... native speed!
[10:29] <michael> well, you tell me what to do (if you dont mind) and I will do it
[10:29] <wolferine> yeah, whats the model of the logitech, which is i imagine using the spca driver?
[10:29] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:29] <Gamic> anon32, wine is not an emulator, so yes it would
[10:30] <anon32> Gamic, hehe
[10:30] <michael> I installed feisty late last night
[10:30] <luca> good day to everyone
[10:30] <wolferine> hey luca
[10:30] <michael> g'day
[10:30] <Pete_> wolferine: oh no the logitech webcam doesn't use the spca driver. I have to go now, sorry. Have a look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Webcam-HOWTO/index.html
[10:30] <luca> does anyone know how to install ie6 WITHOUT using ie4linux?
[10:30] <luca> hi wolferine, michael :)
[10:31] <michael> do you have time? wolferine
[10:31] <Black_Cat> anon32, minesweeper is not that resource-demanding... let me know if you run something like Unreal Tournament :))
[10:31] <anon32> Black_Cat, heh, you can run UT with software rendering :-)
[10:31] <Grape_Juice> lol minesweeper
[10:31] <anon32> so it's also not that demanding
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> Dude, MineSweeper takes like....3 Gb of DDR RAM and 7 Gb of hard drive space!
[10:32] <anon32> ..
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> I'm sorry, I'm just weird like that. :<
[10:32] <anon32> Grape_Juice, DDR is old :-) It's all about that DDR-II
[10:32] <confrey> hi, how can I have flsh plugin in konqueror?
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> DDR3 ftw. :D
[10:33] <Black_Cat> anon32, in native speed? 8-|
[10:33] <Grape_Juice> Well, I have 1.25 Gb of DDR in this laptop.  It does it's job fine. :)
[10:33] <anon32> Black_Cat, lol, UT has a pretty solid software engine - you can run it in ReactOS
[10:33] <spahija> bobstro: dude...this works
[10:33] <Grape_Juice> Wish i could test run DDR2 and 3 though...
[10:34] <adaptr> I have a core 2 duo with ddr2-667
[10:34] <adaptr> it plays nice
[10:34] <wolferine> no sorry, michael i do not have the time
[10:35] <nicu_> #romania
[10:35] <nicu_> ./#romania
[10:35] <michael> ok thanks anyway, but you do have 3d accelration enabled?
[10:35] <Black_Cat> jeez... i'll keep that in mind, anon32... got to try that some day :)
[10:35] <anon32> Black_Cat, hehe, have fun maxing out your Core 2 Duos to run UT at 640x480
[10:37] <netshare> Is it possible to run JetAudio on linux? under wine for example?
[10:37] <hume> hi....is there any kde/kubuntu program to rotate the screen?
[10:37] <llutz> hume: xrandr
[10:37] <netshare> manual monitor rotate :D
[10:37] <sasq> Uhm sorry but where do I manage filetypes and which programs to handle which type ?
[10:37] <michael> lol
[10:38] <sasq> It used to be in system settings, cant find it there now
[10:38] <michael> thats how I do it
[10:38] <anon32> netshare, winehq gives jetaudio a "silver" rating
[10:38] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:38] <netshare> winehq is the same as wine?
[10:38] <netshare> and whats silver rating?
[10:38] <hume> llutz, ok, i know of xrandr - but xrandr -o right just gives me errors...is there no kde frontend?
[10:38] <anon32> netshare, winehq is wine's homepage, and silver means it mostly works
[10:38] <llutz> hume: krandr? not sure
[10:39] <Black_Cat> hume,  hmm. it can be set up in display properties afaik
[10:39] <netshare> anon32 ok thx i will go and check it out. i want to use it becausse it has the best sound
[10:40] <anon32> speaking of sound, wine's sound drivers are pretty dodgy, it won't have "the best sound" in wine
[10:40] <hume> Black_Cat, no such option here - does that mean that the driver (nv) does not support rotate?
[10:41] <Black_Cat> yeah that might be the case
[10:42] <adaptr> it doesn not, indeed, support xv extensions
[10:43] <smoke2k> ok i cann't find any packages i need
[10:43] <smoke2k> i updated my apt get
[10:43] <netshare> anon32 so the sound also depends on wine? :(:(:( :'(:'(:'(
[10:43] <smoke2k> i just want to put vlc and nautilus and few other programs on here
[10:43] <smoke2k> like wine
[10:43] <anon32> netshare, yes, and wine's sound support is iffy
[10:44] <smoke2k> synaptic and add and remove programs doesn't seem to have it
[10:44] <anon32> smoke2k, you need to enable the extra repositories...
[10:44] <anon32> !universe | smoke2k
[10:44] <ubotu> smoke2k: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:44] <netshare> anon32 :( i like jet audios sound so much :(
[10:44] <anon32> it's all about foobar2000 for me :-\
[10:45] <netshare> anon32, just try out jetaudio, u will change to it ;)
[10:45] <anon32> na, I'm ok
[10:45] <smoke2k> cool i just read through this too fast
[10:45] <anon32> :-)
[10:45] <smoke2k> trying to whirl wind it
[10:45] <anon32> smoke2k, oh yeah, on Linux, mplayer is better than VLC
[10:45] <netshare> anon32 BBE effects are also awesome
[10:45] <smoke2k> are you serious vlc is pretty good
[10:45] <smoke2k> ?
[10:45] <anon32> smoke2k, yeah, mplayer > vlc
[10:46] <anon32> it supports subtitles :-)
[10:46] <smoke2k> nice
[10:47] <netshare> well i think, i wont use linux for listetning to music, only when i must use linux :)
[10:47] <netshare> Windows power :D:D:D:D
[10:47] <anon32> netshare, how can one media player produce better sound than another? that's what I wanna know..
[10:47] <smoke2k> no wonder this didn't work
[10:47] <smoke2k> my adept package manager looks nothing like this one
[10:48] <netshare> anon32 just try out JetAudio and you will hear it yourself!
[10:48] <smoke2k> could i update my packages on synaptic too?
[10:48] <anon32> smoke2k, a package manager is a package manager :-\
[10:48] <Black_Cat> anon32, that IS possible, because sound quality depends on engine used by player.
[10:48] <anon32> they're both frontends to apt-get
[10:48] <anon32> Black_Cat, eh? elaborate
[10:48] <smoke2k> all my adept has is a quit button
[10:48] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:49] <smoke2k> this package manager is in dapper drake
[10:49] <smoke2k> i am using edgy i am pretty sure
[10:49] <smoke2k> all it has is quit buttom
[10:49] <smoke2k> :(
[10:50] <anon32> smoke2k, your package manager can't be "in" a distro...
[10:50] <anon32> I'm telling you, they have the same list of packages available
[10:51] <stoeptegel> What key combination would be win+KP_subtract?
[10:51] <smoke2k> i figured each distro has diffrent packages
[10:51] <smoke2k> hence having software indigenous to each one
[10:51] <smoke2k> haha wait
[10:52] <smoke2k> maybe i am doing this wrong
[10:52] <anon32> yes...
[10:52] <anon32> maybe...
[10:52] <netshare> anon32, so are you insatlling jetauio now,?
[10:52] <bonbonthejon> stoeptegel: KP_subtract would be the subtract key on the keypad
[10:53] <anon32> netshare, nope lol
[10:53] <anon32> amarok is good enough for me
[10:53] <stoeptegel> bonbonthejon: and what if the keyboard doesn't has a keypad?
[10:53] <bonbonthejon> stoeptegel: I guess try reassigning, I have the same problem with my laptop
[10:53] <stoeptegel> :)
[10:54] <netshare> anon32 but i mean on win. you said you want to know how could another player have a better sound than other
[10:54] <netshare> anon32 jet audio will show you (to your ears)
[10:54] <anon32> blah, I don't really care - my favorites song is the super mario theme :-\
[10:55] <netshare> anon32 sometimes i listen to chip musics :) dubmood is very cool :)
[10:55] <netshare> www.keygenmusic.com
[10:55] <anon32> lol, keygen music
[10:55] <Black_Cat> :)))
[10:55] <anon32> but it redirects to learnguitar.com
[10:56] <netshare> there are  some very nice melodies, not only stupid electric sound
[10:56] <Plextor> hi, how can i see how much space i've got left on hard drive in the console?
[10:56] <bonbonthejon> Plextor: df -h
[10:56] <Plextor> thnx
[10:56] <jbrouhard> Plextor: df -h
[10:56] <jbrouhard> doh
[10:57] <bonbonthejon> jbrouhard: :)
[10:57] <nu> evening
[11:03] <stoeptegel> netshare: stop spamming...
[11:03] <smoke2k> after all this effort i am just getting the newest version of feisty
[11:04] <smoke2k> I don't know whether to be happy or not
[11:04] <smoke2k> I just want my programs
[11:05] <xst> After upgrading to feisty I can no longer add share (samba) a folder: When I click the "Add" button, enter the path and press "OK", nothing happens.
[11:13] <nuu> xst: using what tool ?
[11:13] <nuu> are you sure you run it as root ?
[11:13] <xst> I use konqueror. Rightclick on the folder > properties > Share > ...
[11:15] <Black_Cat> xst, hmm... kdesu konqueror?
[11:15] <nuu> does it request an authentication password when you try to share ?
[11:17] <xst> It requests a password when I start the "sharing manager". I enter my own password and it proceeds just fine. However, when I have entered the path to be shared and press OK, the path is not appended to the shown list of shared dirs
[11:19] <nuu> try opening ksystemlog from your system menu, and see if you notice anything there
[11:20] <varaonaid> Hi, I'm having problems iwth my kubuntu shutdown.  I get very strange things happening with my screen: flashing lines, green screen, or flashing "e"s and it almost never completes the shutdown process.  I've updated the bios but no effect.
[11:20] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:20] <xst> nuu: nope, nothing odd in the logs
[11:21] <nuu> have you tried sharing the directory manually ? ie by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[11:21] <Tm_T> wolferine: mine is working perfectly
[11:22] <wolferine> Tm_T, what is the device listed under your lsusb ?
[11:22] <nuu> hey there wolferine
[11:23] <Tm_T> wolferine: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:0928 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Express
[11:24] <wolferine> Tm_T, did it just plug and play?
[11:24] <Tm_T> wolferine: sure
[11:24] <wolferine> or did you need to set it up?
[11:24] <xst> nuu: editing smb.conf manually works just fine
[11:24] <Tm_T> yes, I needed to comb my hair
[11:25] <wolferine> Tm_T, ?
[11:25] <Tm_T> wolferine: well, would you show your face in webcam without combing your hair?
[11:25] <wolferine> Tm_T, did you just plug it in, and it worked ?
[11:25] <Graham> yaccin: Hey, you there?
[11:26] <nuu> depends. ever heard of cyber porn ?
[11:26] <nuu> you don' t need to comb your hair for that
[11:26] <nuu> of course you may argue that it's not your face you're showing
[11:26] <Tm_T> wolferine: yes
[11:26] <hsystem-x> I have a question...
[11:27] <wolferine> Tm_t thanks
[11:27] <nuu> xst: this used to work in previous versions of kubuntu ?
[11:27] <payam> Can I installl AutoCAD if i install Wine before?
[11:27] <hsystem-x> WHy in feisty i CAN'T log in through console?
[11:27] <nuu> hsystem-x: you can
[11:28] <hsystem-x> well i can. It says that my password is wrong.
[11:28] <nuu> what makes you think you can't ?
[11:28] <hsystem-x> can't ***********
[11:28] <nuu> hm, then perhaps you can't remember your password
[11:28] <xst> nuu: Yep. In edgy it worked just fine
[11:28] <hsystem-x> well im logged in...
[11:28] <hsystem-x> but i can't do console login.
[11:29] <nuu> using the same user you use to logon to kde ?
[11:29] <hsystem-x> yup
[11:29] <xst> nuu: yes
[11:29] <nuu> hsystem-x: open a terminal, and type echo $SHELL
[11:29] <hsystem-x> en edgy and dapper it worked excellent...
[11:29] <hsystem-x> in*
[11:29] <hsystem-x> ok
[11:30] <hsystem-x> nothing happen...
[11:30] <nuu> i see
[11:30] <nuu> type
[11:30] <nuu> sudo chsh <your_username>
[11:31] <hsystem-x> what you want me do type: SHELL or $SHELL ? . Shell give me an error, "this commands doesn't exist, and $shell do nothing.... i belive you want me to type shell.
[11:31] <hsystem-x> ok ...
[11:31] <hsystem-x> to*
[11:31] <nuu> no, i meant $SHELL
[11:31] <hsystem-x> well, then nothing happen...
[11:31] <nuu> ok
[11:31] <nuu> did you run chsh ?
[11:31] <nuu> the next command i pasted
[11:31] <blekos> i dont get it, what's the meaning of using sudo, since you actually use ur own psswd and cann mess up the whole system?
[11:32] <blekos> any user could delete important files by just typing hes/her psswd
[11:32] <nuu> nope blekos, not ANY user
[11:32] <nuu> just those who are allowed to use sudo ;)
[11:32] <sunnyhours> !nvidia
[11:32] <hsystem-x> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[11:32] <hsystem-x>         Login Shell [/bin/bash] :
[11:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:32] <nuu> press ENTER hsystem-x
[11:32] <blekos> would u mine explaining?
[11:33] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:33] <nuu> blekos: you, as main user of the system, are member of the group "admin"
[11:33] <blekos> if i log in as xxx and then in terminal i sudo ... then i can do what i want
[11:33] <mat1980> i have a quickcam express working well
[11:33] <nuu> if you're in that group, you're granted the privilege to escalate your user level to root
[11:33] <wolferine> mat1980, just plug and play?
[11:33] <hsystem-x> !chsh
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chsh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <hsystem-x> what does chsh command do?
[11:34] <nuu> that is decided by the /etc/sudoers file, which lists who can do what with sudo
[11:34] <nuu> now try adding a new user, and not making it a member of the admin group
[11:34] <blekos> i c, so if i create an account i should make sure its not under admin yes?
[11:34] <nuu> you'll see he can't sudo
[11:34] <nuu> indeed blekos
[11:34] <nuu> hsystem-x: changes the default shell for a user
[11:34] <wolferine> mat1980, or did you have to setup drivers, etc?
[11:35] <mat1980> wolferine, yes, just plug and play.
[11:35] <nuu> since you can't login, and echo $SHELL reports nothing, you seem to not have a default shell set for your user
[11:35] <hsystem-x> ok, that mean, that now im supposed to be able to login?
[11:35] <nuu> which theoretically chsh oughta fix
[11:35] <wolferine> mat1980, can you tell me which it is based on lsusb?
[11:35] <hsystem-x> ok
[11:35] <nuu> yes, you can try ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a terminal, and try. when you're done trying, come back here with ctrl+alt+f7
[11:35] <blekos> so if e.g another user -not under admin- wants to install a program i will have to do it for him
[11:35] <nuu> depends on whether that program needs to be installed as root, or not
[11:36] <nuu> if it can only touch userspace resources, and install to a directory where that given user has write privileges, then he doesnt need you
[11:36] <hsystem-x> good.
[11:37] <mat1980> wolferine, I guess this is the line about my webcam, Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:092f Logitech, Inc.
[11:37] <hsystem-x> nuu: still can't log in through console.
[11:37] <blekos> isnt quite "dangerous" that the main user during installation has root privilg.?
[11:37] <nuu> for instance, a packet sniffer will not be installed as root. It needs to set your interface into promiscuous mode, and that's an administrative task. A normal user, without any rights to escalate to root, wont be able to perform it
[11:37] <wolferine> yes mat
[11:37] <wolferine> that would be it
[11:37] <nuu> blekos: how would you go about administering your own system, if not even yourself could get root on it ? :)
[11:38] <hsystem-x> nuu: still can't log in through console.
[11:38] <blekos> that is true, perhaps  it could be a different psswd for root than the having the same as your loging psswd
[11:38] <nuu> hsystem-x: from a terminal, type "which bash"
[11:38] <nuu> of course you can change it blekos
[11:38] <hsystem-x> i also assing a password to the unix system, but it won't work too...
[11:38] <nuu> on the contrary, it's extremely wise to change it
[11:39] <blekos> how do u change it?
[11:39] <nuu> just "sudo su -" to get root, and "passwd"
[11:39] <nuu> or sudo passwd, as well
[11:39] <hsystem-x> yep: sudo passwd
[11:39] <hsystem-x> nuu:
[11:39] <hsystem-x> $ which bash
[11:39] <hsystem-x> /bin/bash
[11:40] <nuu> hsystem-x: let's add a new user, and you'll try logging in from that
[11:40] <nuu> sudo adduser test
[11:40] <blekos> so, now anytime i'm asked for root psswd i'll give the new one right?
[11:41] <nuu> yup
[11:41] <blekos> great
[11:41] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:41] <hsystem-x> well, nuu, does this have relation with the secondary groups ?
[11:42] <sunnyhours> i'm trying to use synaptic to install the linux-restricted-modules. I have a sempron 2400+ (32bit). anyone know which package is for me?
[11:42] <blekos> so, if i create another user will he has the same progs installes as those as I have?
[11:43] <nuu> it shouldn't hsystem-x: but we should try to make sure there's nothing wrong with your user setup
[11:43] <adaptr> sunnyhours just use generic
[11:43] <sunnyhours> thanks adaptr
[11:43] <adaptr> sunnyhours regardless you MUST use the same one as your current kernel, or it won't work
[11:43] <hsystem-x> ok that unix password that it ask for the new user, it is the password for that account?
[11:43] <nuu> yes hsystem-x
[11:43] <sunnyhours> uname -r shows 2.6.17-10-386
[11:44] <nuu> put whatever password, just to try
[11:44] <nuu> then ctrl+alt+f1 and try logging in with that user's credentials
[11:44] <hsystem-x> room number, i guess it means, the id, for example 1002
[11:44] <hsystem-x> ?
[11:44] <nuu> remember, ctrl+alt+f7 to get back here
[11:44] <nuu> just hit enter hsystem-x :)
[11:44] <nuu> no need to input those infos
[11:44] <hsystem-x> ok brb
[11:45] <sunnyhours> i think the icons on the left column are confusing. i don't know what is what (download/upgrade/remove/etc)
[11:45] <hsystem-x> ok it works nuu.
[11:45] <nuu> fine, then something's wrong with the way your user is set up
[11:45] <hsystem-x> that a normal user i guess. It does not have privileges right?
[11:46] <nuu> it doesn't until you add it to the "admin" group
[11:46] <hsystem-x> ok .
[11:46] <nuu> in which case, he'll be allowed to su to root
[11:46] <nuu> (provided he knows the password)
[11:46] <nuu> if he's not in the admin group, he wont be able to su/sudo
[11:46] <nuu> anyway
[11:47] <nuu> back to your problem......what does cat /etc/passwd | grep <your_username> say ?
[11:47] <hsystem-x> well im using my default user, the one that kubuntu setup.
[11:47] <nuu> sudo cat... of course
[11:47] <hsystem-x> I used the alternate cd to install kubuntu, since i don't like the live cd ...
[11:47] <hsystem-x> does this have something to do with?
[11:47] <nuu> don't think so
[11:48] <hsystem-x> a bug?
[11:48] <sunnyhours> in synaptic, what does the icon of a green box with a yellow star in the corner mean?
[11:48] <nuu> actually, i havent tried that cd
[11:48] <nuu> but it sounds rather strange to me
[11:48] <blekos> nuu do u know any good backup program which will alow multiple backup jobs and choose directories and files?
[11:48] <mat1980> sunnyhours, it means it is upgradable
[11:48] <sunnyhours> but already installed, mat1980?
[11:48] <nuu> blekos: i wrote my own
[11:48] <nuu> but i'm sure you'll find plenty around
[11:49] <mat1980> subbyhours, yes it is already installed and there is a new version in the repository
[11:49] <sunnyhours> okay, what about just the green box? installed but not upgradable?
[11:49] <hsystem-x> what language did you used, NUU?
[11:49] <nuu> just a bash script hsystem-x
[11:49] <mat1980> sunnyhours, yes
[11:49] <nuu> nothing special
[11:49] <hsystem-x> oh k.
[11:50] <sunnyhours> thanks mat1980
[11:50] <nuu> all it does is cp, piping to tar -czvf, and stuff like that
[11:50] <mat1980> that's ok
[11:51] <sunnyhours> do linux-restricted-modules-common, and linux-restricted-modules-generic conflict with each other?
[11:51] <nuu> hsystem-x: so try cat /etc/passwd, and compare the entries of your user (the one that cant login) and the new user (the one that can)
[11:51] <nuu> do you spot any immediate differences ?
[11:51] <mat1980> sunnyhours, try, if some packages conflicts synaptic will prompt to you
[11:51] <mat1980> however I gess the don't
[11:52] <mat1980> ehm.. I misspelled... I guess thy don't
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Oops, hit enter too early
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Anyway...
[11:52] <mat1980> ehm.. I'm too tired.... I guess they don't
[11:53] <K-Ryan> I'm upgrading to Feisty Fawn
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Will the distribution upgrade tool automatically restart my system?
[11:53] <hsystem-x> well, nuu, but does are the secondary grupo
[11:53] <hsystem-x> group*
[11:54] <hsystem-x> those*
[11:54] <nuu> can you list them ?
[11:54] <nuu> type "groups"
[11:54] <sunnyhours> this looks like an awful mess mat1980. i'm not so sure this is going to work   =P
[11:54] <mat1980> K-Ryan, no it won't. You have to do by your own
[11:54] <hsystem-x> hsystem-x adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin
[11:54] <K-Ryan> Alright, thanks.
[11:54] <nuu> now type groups <your_test_user>
[11:55] <hsystem-x> $ groups test
[11:55] <hsystem-x> test : test
[11:56] <mat1980> sunnyhours, my system has both packages installed, and I have no problem
[11:56] <nuu> ok hsystem-x, let's try this
[11:56] <nuu> we'll add your test user to the same groups as your main user
[11:57] <nuu> and we'll see if that disables login for it
[11:57] <nuu> so, from terminal:
[11:58] <mat1980> sunnyhours, the only problem using restricted modules is that usually they are less stable
[11:58] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:58] <mat1980> i.e. ibernation on my laptop doesn't work with nvidia driver
[11:59] <hsystem-x> nuu: ?
[12:00] <nuu> oh sorry hsystem-x
[12:00] <nuu> sudo usermod -aG <group> test
[12:00] <nuu> where <group> is each of the groups you are in
[12:00] <nuu> (hsystem-x, etc)
[12:00] <slow-motion> n8
[12:00] <nuu> you gotta do it for each group
[12:01] <sunnyhours> what does this notation mean? 2.6.17.7-11.2
[12:02] <sunnyhours> does that mean it'll work with kernel versions 2.6.17-7 all the way through 2.6.17.11?
[12:02] <Arwen> sunnyhours, major.minor.micro.nano-build.subbuild
[12:02] <sunnyhours> lol thanks
[12:03] <Arwen> 2.6 is the family of the kernel, .17 is the version, .7 is the minor version, 11.2 refers to the Ubuntu-specific build number
[12:03] <hsystem-x> nuu: done
[12:03] <Arwen> sunnyhours, that help?
[12:03] <sunnyhours> so i take it the nvidia-glx package version 2.6.17.7-11.2 won't work for my 2.6.17-10-386 kernel
[12:03] <sunnyhours> Arwen: yes, but a bit over my head
[12:03] <adaptr> sunnyhours just take the latest one
[12:04] <Arwen> sunnyhours, no, it has to match the version number
[12:04] <sunnyhours> adaptr: the latest what?
[12:04] <adaptr> Arwen erm.. that's kinda irrelevant because *buntu makes sure you get a matched version
[12:04] <sunnyhours> Arwen: figured... let me do another search in synaptic
[12:04] <adaptr> sunnyhours the latest nvidia-glx
[12:04] <hsystem-x> nuu: i have done what you said. An i still can log in with the test user through console.
[12:05] <sunnyhours> adaptr: i did
[12:05] <hsystem-x> Well, i believe the best solution is to create a new user with all the groups this (present) user have, and remove this one. ?
[12:06] <hsystem-x> what you think? NUU
[12:06] <adaptr> sunnyhours did you get the proper drivers for nvidia ? if so, it should all Just Work (C)
[12:06] <sunnyhours> thanks for the tips guys. time to restart X and see if it worked   =)
[12:07] <nuu> hsystem-x: that would be one solution, but you'd have to copy your home around
[12:07] <hsystem-x> well, just to move my things to the new home, and remvoe the old one, right?
[12:08] <nuu> the old one will go when you userdel -r <your_user>
[12:08] <nuu> (that -r means, wipe user's files)
[12:08] <hsystem-x> yes, I know.
[12:08] <nuu> if you want to follow that path, then make sure you do it from rot
[12:08] <nuu> root
[12:08] <nuu> so i would
[12:08] <nuu> sudo su -
[12:09] <nuu> adduser newuser
[12:09] <nuu> usermod -aG admin newuser
[12:09] <nuu> cp -pR /home/<youruser>/* /home/newuser
[12:09] <nuu> chown -R newuser:newuser /home/newuser
[12:09] <hsystem-x> "/*"means all?
[12:10] <nuu> yes
[12:10] <chuck> adaptr: no luck. i actually get an error message when starting X. "API Mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 1.0-8776, but this x module has version 1.0-8774"
[12:10] <hsystem-x> well that's a good idea, thanks.
[12:10] <nuu> then proceed with "usermod -aG <group x> newuser" for every group
[12:10] <nuu> then, BEFORE you do userdel -r <your_user>
[12:10] <nuu> i suggest you logout and log in with newuser
[12:10] <chuck> i had this before when i just tried to use the nvidia install script that i downloaded off their web site
[12:11] <nuu> and see if everything's in place and works
[12:11] <wolferine> how can I open a GUI locally that is run on a remote machine via a shell and ssh?
[12:11] <hsystem-x> ok , thanks for the help.
[12:11] <nuu> np hsystem-x
[12:11] <adaptr> chuck that's because all three have to have the same version
[12:11] <chuck> all three what? Kernel, the nvidia module, and the x module?
[12:11] <adaptr> chuck you did what ? oh f*ing hell, why do so many people persist
[12:12] <adaptr> chuck get RID of the nvidia crap, and install the proper packages form ubuntu
[12:12] <chuck> adaptr: lol    i had it work before.... is there an easy way to undo that?
[12:12] <Graham> Anybody here use superkaramba?
[12:12] <adaptr> no
[12:12] <adaptr> well, yes - uninstall anything nvidia, and delete the rest
[12:12] <nuu> wolferine: what OS on the remote machine ?
[12:12] <chuck> adaptr: i think i may be better off reformatting, and reinstalling. this is starting to look a lot like windows   =\
[12:12] <wolferine> nuu, linux the entire way
[12:13] <adaptr> chuck not at all, but you need to apply a little common sense and restraint to not USE it like one does WIndows ;-)
[12:13] <chuck> adaptr: hahaa   it just looked so much easier than following the ubuntu how-to   ;-)
[12:14] <lettuce> amarok keeps craching every time i use it. Is there a linux program better than amarok?
[12:14] <chuck> adaptr: So do you have any idea what exactly i'll need to uninstall and delete?
[12:14] <chuck> lettuce: consider xmms, or kaffeine. depending on what you'd like to play
[12:14] <adaptr> yeah.. sure... aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx is *difficult* ?
[12:14] <adaptr> I give up all hope, then
[12:14] <mat1980> lettuce, kmplayer works fine