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=== Topic for #ubuntu-ops: Welcome to the home of the operators of all Ubuntu (and derivatives) channels | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC council approval put on hold until UDS
=== Topic (#ubuntu-ops): set by Seveaz at Wed Mar 28 12:56:23 2007
[12:12] <apokryphos> nalioth: it wasn't shut down properly
[12:20] <elkbuntu> harrisony, that quit message is your hint
[12:21] <harrisony> elkbuntu: haha
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=== jussi01 cries...
[02:48] <elkbuntu> ?
=== Tm_T bullies jussi01 bit more
[02:48] <Tm_T> cry baby cry!
[02:49] <jussi01> Tm_T: check out sdf in #kubuntu
[02:49] <jussi01> arrghh..
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[02:56] <LjL> do you know what's the bytes for bold and italic on mIRC?
[02:56] <LjL> (at least, i think the commonly used protocol is the mIRC one)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> a *foo* _bar_ bling
[02:57] <Hobbsee> darn.
[02:58] <Tm_T> er
[02:58] <Tm_T> that has nothing to do with mirc
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[03:00] <LjL> Hobbsee, Tm_T: the color codes were introduced by ircle, then mIRC used different ones, and the ones commonly used now are the mIRC ones. i don't think there's any RFC yet
[03:00] <LjL> maybe it's not the same for bold/italic/underline, but "that has nothing to do with mIRC", hm, i'd have my doubts
[03:00] <Tm_T> color?!
[03:00] <Hobbsee> ahh
[03:00] <Tm_T> well, *bold* and _underline_ are older than mirc IIRC
[03:01] <LjL> they sure are
[03:01] <LjL> but i'm talking about real bold and underline :)
[03:01] <Tm_T> ...
[03:01] <Tm_T> stay away from me, satan!
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[03:01] <LjL> Tm_T: type /msg ubotu help list
[03:02] <LjL> i don't like to use things like colors and formatted text on irc gratuitously
[03:02] <LjL> but i don't think it's gratuitous in that case
[03:02] <Hobbsee> @rainbow bad LjL
[03:02] <ubotu> bad LjL
[03:03] <LjL> +c
[03:03] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
=== Tm_T doesn't see any colours =)
[03:03] <LjL> 'cause the channel's +c :)
[03:03] <Tm_T> yah
[03:04] <Tm_T> colours -> kick
[03:04] <Tm_T> usually
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[03:04] <LjL> mlocked +c
[03:04] <Hobbsee> aaaa
[03:04] <Hobbsee> bbb
[03:04] <Hobbsee> tset
[03:04] <Hobbsee> that's...weird
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hey now.
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[03:14] <Hobbsee> yay, Tm_T's back
[03:14] <Tm_T> yes, my back is very yay
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[03:26] <Tm_T> Jucato: have you seen this? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6726522426109060914
[03:27] <Tm_T> Jucato: it's one hour video about debian packages
[03:27] <Jucato> oh... interesting.. let me see :)
[03:27] <Jucato> yay Google videos!
=== Jucato downloads
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[03:28] <Daviey> Hi.  Any chance you can tell me why user 'ubuntu' is banned from #ubuntu?
[03:31] <LjL> Daviey: hold on please, i'm having a problem checking the logs
[03:31] <mc44> Daviey: he isnt any more
[03:31] <mc44> LjL: he was banned for spamming
[03:32] <mc44> (by you)
[03:32] <Daviey> great mc44
[03:32] <LjL> mc44: while using that nickname?
[03:32] <mc44> yep
[03:32] <mc44> but it was a hostname ban
[03:32] <Daviey> did wonder why he was banned
[03:32] <Daviey> thanks
[03:33] <LjL> gnnh stupid tracker... SEVEAS! fix the tracker, it spits SQL gibberish half of the times :P
[03:34] <jrib> spot the mistake: grep ubuntu\ \> ~/irclogs/freenode/\#ubuntu.log
[03:34] <jrib> oh oops, no mistake there, but I ran without \> before, just >
[03:34] <LjL> jrib: erm, missing quotes?
[03:34] <LjL> hm
[03:34] <LjL> well perhaps it's easier to use quotes anyway :P
[03:35] <jrib> yeah, but now my #ubuntu log is a lot shorter at least
[03:36] <LjL> mc44: ok i'm having some troubles finding what got him banned. the nick doesn't help, for sure >: he actually was spamming?
[03:36] <mc44> LjL: 197.Red-80-59-135.staticIP.rima-tde.net
[03:37] <LjL> mc44: yeah but i can't find the offending line(s) in the tracker. just tell me if i had a good enough reason for banning him :P
[03:37] <mc44> LjL: of course you did, a man of your abilities :)
[03:37] <LjL> mc44: "man of my experience"
[03:37] <mc44> thats the one
[03:38] <jrib> notice that ip was banned once a month since january
[03:38] <LjL> yes, noticed that
[03:38] <mc44> LjL: 2007-04-21T14:56:38 <ubunt1> http://www.sexualityandu.ca/teens/what.aspx
[03:38] <LjL> mc44: i asked *if*, not *which*...
[03:38] <LjL> anyway, ok, i couldn't find it because i wasn't grepping for ubunt1
[03:39] <mc44> Yes, sorry
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[06:05] <jussi01> hei ops!! can someone have a look into #kubuntu ...?? there are a couple of lads just asking all sorts of annoying questions, and just clogging the channel... nicks = don and ubuntu
[06:06] <nalioth> i'm not surprised
[06:07] <jussi01> heh, yeah, they've been around for a while...
[06:15] <LjL> neither am i
[06:15] <LjL> ubuntu has been accusing me of ruining his system
[06:16] <LjL> i'd told him to "sudo apt-get autoremove wine" when he asked how to remove wine
[06:16] <LjL> of course, the fact that he was *asked* whether to remove the other 200 package he apparently removed (didn't have kubuntu-desktop installed, i guess) doesn't mean a thing - it's still all my fault
[06:17] <mc44> LjL: trashing peoples computers now? naughty you
[06:17] <jussi01> THANK YOU!!
[06:17] <jussi01> :D
[06:18] <jussi01> sorry to shout, but im now a bit happier...
[06:18] <jussi01> :D
[06:19] <ompaul> LjL, all things are your fault :)
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[06:22] <LjL> honestly, i think i shouldn't be suggesting autoremove like that. i know that people can be stupid. i just didn't think about it, since i almost always use autoremove
[06:23] <LjL> so i would even feel a little guilty, if he weren't so obnoxious
[06:23] <mc44> yeah, just use remove, in most cases people wont notice remnant dependencies anyway
[07:13] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:43] <ubotu> In ubotu, a514 said: how much is ubuntu?
[07:45] <jrib> !ubotu > a514
[07:45] <mc44> !free > a514
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[08:20] <pOdOm> hi
[08:20] <pOdOm> i've got a problem with a registered channel
[08:22] <Seveas> which one?
[08:23] <pOdOm> #z
[08:23] <pOdOm> the channel is registered
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[08:24] <Seveas> pOdOm, that's not in the realm of the ubuntu operators, you should ask frenode staff for help
[08:24] <pOdOm> but the owner doesn't come anymore and it"s a linked channel
[08:24] <pOdOm> ok thanks :)
[08:24] <apokryphos> pOdOm: /stats p to list currently available staffers
[08:24] <nalioth> <ahem>
[08:24] <pOdOm> ok :)
[08:24] <vorian> lol nalioth
[08:24] <Seveas> (and nalioth is one of those staffers and apparently desperat for attention :p)
[08:24] <apokryphos> nalioth: you didn't close down -chat properly ;)
[08:25] <nalioth> pOdOm: i'm afraid #z can't be dropped.  try ##z
[08:25] <nalioth> apokryphos: i didn't?
[08:25] <apokryphos> nope
[08:25] <apokryphos> rejoined earlier and there were people around waiting to be re-kicked ;)
[08:26] <mneptok> [3:#ubuntu-ops(+cntz)] 
[08:27] <mneptok> everybody be careful where you leave your vowels.
[08:27] <mc44> :D
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[08:27] <mneptok> oh dear
[08:28] <pOdOm> see you :)
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[08:30] <mneptok> nalioth: can you help me with a channel issue?
[08:30] <mneptok> it's over on GIMPnet.
[08:31] <nalioth> i can help you find more time for GIMPnet, mneptok <EG>
[08:31] <mneptok> :)
[08:31] <mneptok> that would also win you many friends.
[08:31] <mneptok> many of them present as we speak.
[08:32] <vorian> they are all set up in ##z now
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[09:40] <highvoltage> who is ops on #ubuntu-devel? just need to keep an eye on someone that's being a bit dum there.
[09:40] <mc44> highvoltage: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-devel list
[09:41] <highvoltage> mc44: thanks
[09:42] <nalioth> highvoltage: who would that be?
[09:42] <highvoltage> nalioth: Alternati. he's gone quiet now, at least.
[09:45] <nalioth> wonder why . . .
[09:45] <mc44> probably eating excessive amounts of snack food
[09:46] <mc44> ah not so quiet now
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[09:51] <maxamillion> that was fun
[09:52] <jrib> lets see how long he lasts in #ub... never mind
[09:52] <ubotu> arrenlex called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> CheshireViking called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:52] <mc44> jrib: hehe
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[10:16] <ubotu> In ubotu, roamex said: what is synaptic
[10:17] <tsmithe> !synaptic > roamex
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[12:04] <LjL> it's getting annoying, it's fun by itself, but it's got such a sense of deja vu
[12:06] <Tm_T> ?
[12:07] <Tm_T> LjL: you mean this wolferine deja vu?
[12:11] <jrib> LjL, gnomefreak: so we are keeping the channel only +R?
[12:11] <LjL> no i mean the clonebots in #ubuntu
[12:11] <LjL> i'd take away both
[12:11] <LjL> the bots can register if they like, anyway
[12:11] <LjL> they did that just yesterday
[12:11] <gnomefreak> there are no bots in there atm it should be fine for now
[12:11] <gnomefreak> what happened to +J?
[12:12] <LjL> gnomefreak: removed (and mlocked down) after a big netsplit sent everyone to -unregged
[12:12] <LjL> it should be fixed before it's activated again
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:12] <LjL> but - it would be immensely useful imho
[12:12] <apokryphos> I disagree
[12:12] <apokryphos> but we said we'd wait till the meeting to discuss it
[12:13] <apokryphos> and again, it had nothing to do that it was a netsplit
[12:13] <LjL> apokryphos: you disagree with it being useful?
[12:13] <LjL> what was it then?
[12:13] <apokryphos> +J handles netsplits just fine (as we've seen), it's the server deaths that it has a problem with
[12:14] <apokryphos> which are very rare (every few months)
[12:14] <LjL> yeah whatever, a sever death is a netsplit that doesn't just happen because a Cisco goes down somewhere
[12:14] <apokryphos> LjL: no, I disagree that it shouldn't be re-enabled; I think it should
[12:14] <LjL> well i think i could agree
[12:14] <gnomefreak> +j would have prevented that attack afaik
[12:14] <gnomefreak> atleast most of it
[12:14] <apokryphos> well there is a clear difference; netsplits happen regularly, server deaths don't
[12:14] <LjL> that, and the other three of yesterday
[12:14] <LjL> or the day before, or whenever it was
[12:15] <LjL> +rR doesn't do anything at all when the bots are registered - and they are
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