[12:54] <pygi> hi bluekuja
[12:54] <bluekuja> pygi: hello mario!!
[12:54] <bluekuja> how are you man?
[12:56] <pygi> tired, trying to build a pbulder enviroment
[12:58] <bluekuja> hehehe
[12:58] <pygi> you?
[12:58] <bluekuja> I was configuring some stuff here
[12:59] <bluekuja> had to format 3 pc
[12:59] <bluekuja> now im checking mails, and finishing some server stuff
[01:01] <pygi> ergh
[01:06] <bluekuja> and soon I gonna go to sleep
[01:06] <bluekuja> :P
[01:06] <pygi> sleep is overrated
[01:28] <pygi> hey HedgeMage :)
[01:34] <pygi> wb bluekuja :P
[01:34] <pygi> bddebian, you around?
[01:34] <bluekuja> :)
[01:35] <bluekuja> restarting some stuff :D
[01:35] <bluekuja> pygi: i go to sleep!
[01:35] <pygi> hehe
[01:35] <pygi> night
[01:35] <bluekuja> pygi: cya tomorrow! gnight!
[01:59] <HedgeMage> hi pygi
[01:59] <HedgeMage> what's up?
[01:59] <pygi> nothing much, just bugging you :)
[07:09] <Bhaskar1>  i have LTSP 5 in edubuntu 7.04  , i have USB printer Canon LBP 2900 , the printer is not printing, how can it configure, Anybody can help me ??
[07:51] <skwashd> hi all
[07:51] <skwashd> i have an old crappy Pentium-MMX
[07:51] <skwashd> it doesn't support network booting
[07:52] <skwashd> can anyone recommend a good boot CD to get it started?
[07:52] <skwashd> it boots from cd ok
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> started doing what?
[08:01] <skwashd> Kamping_Kaiser: network booting
[08:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> i cant recomend a netboot cd, but i have seen them available for download
[08:05] <ajmitch> a grub floppy can even do some pxe booting
[08:05] <ajmitch> or pxelinux
[08:10] <skwashd> ajmitch: that would mean that i need to grab an old floppy drive and install it in a box
[08:10] <skwashd> then go to the shop and buy a box of 10 antiques
[08:18] <ajmitch> or you use a cd image that emulates booting a floppy
[08:54] <yigal> why has edubuntu had such a bad time compared to {x,k,}ubuntu?
[08:54] <yigal> so strange 38 people
[08:54] <yigal> and no response
[08:54] <yigal> after a few messages to myself
[08:54] <yigal> strange
[08:54] <yigal> and its getting stranger
[08:54] <yigal> teachers unite
[08:55] <yigal> we could use this software for so much good stuff?
[08:55] <yigal> yes?
[08:55] <yigal> or no?
[08:55] <yigal> I think yes, but why isn't it being used and who are these 38 people who aren't saying anything
[08:55] <yigal> owell good luck strange
[08:55] <juliux> ????
[09:49] <cbx33> mood gorning all
[09:50] <cbx33> well VCSFrenzy is now an applet ;)
[10:04] <cbx33> DAMN it
[10:05] <cbx33> I can't even get to #ubuntu now
[10:05] <cbx33> they have disabled usage for people using CGI:IRC
[10:09] <willvdl> cbx33, I'm sure if you ask them they'll allow?
[10:09] <cbx33> This is NOT #ubuntu.  | You have been sent to this channel because you are using a proxy service such as Tor or Cgi:IRC. There are better ways to be anonymous. Type !tor-gpg to find out one method. |  CGI:IRC users, try connecting your irc client to freenode directly via port 8000, 8001 or 8002.  This _may_ bypass your firewalls  CGI:IRC users may also join #ubuntu-offtopic | Please type !proxy for more informatio
[10:09] <cbx33> hehe
[10:10] <cbx33> oh
[10:10] <cbx33> hehe
[10:10] <cbx33> identifying works
[10:10] <cbx33> :S
[10:15] <juliux> cbx33, use your ubuntu cloack;)
[10:18] <cbx33> yeh
[10:53] <cbx33> hey
[10:53] <cbx33> anyone know about global environment variables?
[10:53] <cbx33> if I want to have http_proxy=something
[10:53] <cbx33> and I want it to apply to everything
[10:53] <cbx33> so as soon as I log in
[10:53] <cbx33> in gnome
[10:53] <cbx33> everthing know that that's set?
[10:53] <cbx33> where do i set it?
[11:26] <Hamm_sand> is there anyone that might be able to help me
[11:26] <Hamm_sand> i'm at my wits end
[11:26] <Hamm_sand> anyone out there?
[11:29] <cbx33> what;s up
[11:32] <skwashd> i have my edubuntu install working well now ... a machine with netboot support helps :)
[11:33] <skwashd> where do i mount my home directories ... /home or /opt/ltsp/i386/home ?
[12:20] <Bhaskar1> How to install Grub ? My Grub is overrides by XP, so how to install grub
[12:22] <ogra> do you have an edubuntu CD handy ? it has a rescue mode you can boot in. that mode offers to install grub
[12:24] <Bhaskar1> ogra, i have edubuntu 7.04 CD
[12:24] <cbx33> ogra: vcsfrenzy is almost at v1.5
[12:24] <cbx33> ;)
[12:24] <ogra> great, use it :)
[12:25] <ogra> cbx33, nice
[12:25] <Bhaskar1> ogra, while booting edubuntu 7.04 CD there is 3 option , install in HD, Install workstation, Install in text mode
[12:26] <cbx33> bzr and svn now working ;) and it's a gnome applet ;)
[12:26] <Bhaskar1> ogra, which option should follow to install Grub
[12:27] <ogra> hmm, there should be a rescue mode
[12:36] <Bhaskar1> ogra, i will check it.
[12:37] <Bhaskar1> ogra, i have install edubuntu 7.04 LTSP 5.0 in schools , i have to set up a Canon LBP 2900 USB printer but i could not , how printer is configured?
[12:37] <Bhaskar1> ogra, any modification in LTS.conf
[12:38] <ogra> do you attach it to a thin client ?
[12:38] <Bhaskar1> ya
[12:38] <ogra> add PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0 to lts.conf (nothing else)
[12:38] <Bhaskar1> one server and 3 thin client
[12:38] <ogra> that should make it available as jetdirect printer on the ip of the client at port 9100
[12:40] <Bhaskar1> this allow print dokument from client also?
[12:40] <ogra> sure
[12:40] <Bhaskar1> well
[12:41] <ogra> just set up the printer with the gnome tool ...
[12:41] <ogra> and point it to the jetdirect port of the client
[12:41] <Bhaskar1> no driver i.e CUPS to be install for printer?
[12:41] <ogra> thats done in the gnom tool
[12:42] <ogra> it should offer you the right choice already
[12:42] <ogra> on the ltsp side the one line in lts.conf is the only thing necessary
[12:42] <Bhaskar1> ogra, there is no choice for Canon LBP 2900
[12:43] <ogra> if you have cups probs i fear you need to look up the cups docs
[12:44] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/Canon_LBP_2900
[12:44] <ogra> ouch
[12:44] <ogra> that printer seems to be a tricky one
[12:45] <Bhaskar1> ya , that is tricky
[12:46] <Bhaskar1> rpm package is converted into deb
[12:47] <Bhaskar1> i suggest Ubuntu team include all series of  printer in next release of ubuntu
[12:47] <ogra> i guess thats not freely licenced or something
[12:47] <cbx33> on the subject of printers
[12:47] <cbx33> anyone know a good well supported A3 printer for linux
[12:48] <Bhaskar1> ogra, i think so
[12:48] <ogra> yeah, canon doent distribute any code, only binaries ...
[12:48] <Bhaskar1> ya
[12:48] <ogra> to bad
[12:49] <Bhaskar1> ogra, ya, but canon should release source
[12:49] <cbx33> canon suck for printing on linux
[12:49] <ogra> well, its up to them ...
[12:49] <ogra> nobody can force them
[12:50] <cbx33> true
[12:50] <cbx33> Bhaskar1: know of a good a printer for linux?
[12:50] <cbx33> A3
[12:51] <Bhaskar1> cbx33, HP Laserjet 1300 is good for linux
[12:51] <cbx33> yeh?
[01:04] <Bhaskar1> ogra, where can i find Beryl effect for edubuntu 7.04
[01:05] <ogra> in system->settings somewhere
[01:05] <ogra> but it will only work if your graphics card supports it
[01:06] <Bhaskar1> but i think some aditional package should be install not built in
[01:06] <ogra> for berly, yes, its unsupported ... compiz should be there by default though
[01:07] <Bhaskar1> ya, compriz effect is built in
[01:07] <Bhaskar1> ogra, http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201179
[01:08] <Bhaskar1> is comparision of ubuntu and Vista
[03:50] <pips1> hi everybody
[03:50] <pips1> ogra: when will you arrive in Sevilla?
[03:51] <ogra> 16:30 on the 2nd
[03:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:51] <pips1> hey sbalneav!
[03:51] <sbalneav> Hey ogra!
[03:51] <sbalneav> Not long now!
[03:51] <pips1> :)
[03:51] <sbalneav> Hello pips1
[03:51] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LtspUpdateManagerIntegration
[03:51] <ogra> :)
[03:52] <pips1> *click*
[03:52] <pips1> good idea
[03:53] <pips1> ogra: will the sessions/talks/bofs for UES also be scheduled on LP?
[03:54] <pips1> basically, I want to know how scheduling for UES will be done :)
[03:54] <ogra> riched has scheduled some iirc
[03:54] <cbx33> is there a TCM thing planned for UDS/UES?
[03:54] <sbalneav> cbx33: Hey there!
[03:54] <sbalneav> Coming to UDS?
[03:54] <pips1> hi cbx33
[03:54] <cbx33> hey sbalneav
[03:54] <sbalneav> Should be close for you!
[03:54] <cbx33> unfortunately not
[03:54] <sbalneav> No?
[03:54] <cbx33> nope
[03:54] <cbx33> work can't let me go
[03:54] <sbalneav> Same general area of the world! :)
[03:54] <cbx33> hehe
[03:54] <cbx33> indeed
[03:54] <ogra> pips1, i think he registered them i LP and on the wikipage
[03:55] <ogra> *i
[03:55] <cbx33> maybe if I shout loud enough?
[03:55] <ogra> *in
[03:55] <cbx33> you'll hear me
[03:55] <cbx33> are we having voip sessions again?
[03:55] <sbalneav> You'll only have about 50 some odd miles of ocean to cross. :)
[03:55] <willvdl> sbalneav, it's been swum across for heaven's sake :P
[03:56] <sbalneav> And I've gone under it AND over it!
[03:56] <pips1> ogra: I found it... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UES-Sevilla/Schedule
[03:56] <ogra> at the same time ? wow !
[03:56] <pips1> and ... https://launchpad.net/sprints/ues-sevilla-2007
[03:56] <sbalneav> I'm just that good.
[03:57] <ogra> sbalneav, any naming suggestion for the "ltsp needs speedup" spec ?
[03:57] <willvdl> sbalneav, it went under me
[03:59] <sbalneav> ogra: "ltsp-boot-performance"
[03:59] <ogra> hmm
[04:00] <cbx33> so and TCM related stuff ogra?
[04:03] <ogra> sbalneav, looks fine, i thought the one we had for dapper was called the same
[04:03] <ogra> cbx33, we shoul probably first get it done before we start new specs for it
[04:03] <sbalneav> Performance is an ongoing process :)
[04:03] <ogra> right
[04:05] <ogra> hrm, seems we need to package libflashsupport :/
[04:07] <cbx33> ok
[04:16] <crimsun> the old openssl issue?
[04:16] <crimsun> I wonder if it builds&works with gnutls
[04:17] <ogra> well, i never made it work when i compiled it manually
[04:18] <crimsun> I never got it to work correctly with Flash 9
[04:18] <sbalneav> ogra: Quicky question: does the Canonical asterisk server also support video via ekiga, as well as audio?
[04:18] <crimsun> I probably stuffed it up
[04:18] <ogra> but i stumbled acroos a debian package (a very badly made one ) this morning ...
[04:18] <ogra> it apparently works for some time but then makes FF crash
[04:19] <ogra> i got he source package, its likely a binary glitch, i'll try to build that one ...
[04:19] <ogra> beyond that i'm not sure the licence makes it distributable (beyond the ssl issue)
[04:20] <ogra> sbalneav, ask elmo ... no idea :)
[04:20] <sbalneav> What channel can I find him in? -devel?  What's his nick?
[04:20] <ogra> elmo :)
[04:20] <ogra> -devel is fine i think
[04:35] <cbx33> hey encompass
[04:49] <pips1> cbx33 shame your work won't let you come to UES :-/
[04:49] <pips1> ogra: sbalneav looking forward to see you guys there!
[04:50] <ogra> yeah :)
[04:50] <pips1> I'll arrive on Wed 13:20
[04:50] <sbalneav> We're always a hoot
[04:54] <pips1> bye!
[04:56] <joebaker> Burgwork, ogra, amaranth, cliebow:  Through an email exchange with the author of DansGuardian, he has clarified that redistribution is permitted of his product and that he feels he should update his license page to make that more clear.   This has been the case since version 2.0.
[04:57] <ogra> yeah, he surely should update his license page :)
[04:57] <ogra> indeed that still doesnt solve the problem of blacklist maintenance
[04:57] <ogra> which was the main concern why we didnt consider squidguard and dansguardian by default
[04:58] <joebaker> ogra:  The blacklist maintenance isn't necessary.
[04:58] <ogra> you need to update the white/blacklists, no ?
[04:58] <joebaker> DG can use blacklists, but it works off of phrase lists.
[05:00] <joebaker> It makes calculations using regular expression calculations on pages  such that if breast exists in the page along with the word cancer that the page is likely not to be blocked based upon other patterns.
[05:00] <cliebow_> joebaker:thanks
[05:00] <joebaker> So while downloading blacklists can be useful, it's really not necessary.  Also the biggest help in my opinion is the antivirus plugin which can use clamav
[05:01] <kgoetz> so blacklists are 'anotehr link' not 'teh solution'? i like it already :)
[05:02] <joebaker> So you can provide a proxy that scans for viruses for any machine... on the network.  It's a neat way to provide a little protection for the Windoze boxen on the network.
[05:03] <joebaker> Let's not move on this until Dan updates his page to reflect this clarification of the redistribution or until we have concrete proof.  But I thought you all would be happy to hear of this progress.
[05:25] <bluekuja> ogra: ping
[05:26] <pygi> bluekuja, you're bugging again :P
[05:26] <bluekuja> pygi: lol
[05:27] <bluekuja> pygi: need a suggestion for a package
[05:27] <bluekuja> I dont know where I can put .png and .xpm files
[05:27] <pygi> what files?
[05:27] <bluekuja> .png and .xmp files
[05:27] <bluekuja> of a package
[05:27] <bluekuja> I'm doing
[05:27] <bluekuja> I put them into /pixmaps
[05:28] <bluekuja> but both laserjock and bddebian said that its not the right place
[05:28] <pygi> well, they should be where upstream put them ? :P
[05:28] <bluekuja> yeah, upstream folder is named /pixmaps
[05:28] <bluekuja> mainfolder
[05:29] <bluekuja> subfolder
[05:29] <bluekuja> and icons into /pixmaps
[05:31] <bluekuja> pygi: solving it with a debian developer
[05:31] <bluekuja> ;)
[05:31] <pygi> oki doki :P
[05:44] <cliebow_> ivre got one machine behind a smoothwall friewall that eont update..Sub-process bzip2: returned error code2..another is happily doing updates..any hints?
[05:55] <encompass> so.... 40 clients and dual core xeon with 4 GB of ram for the server... good enough?
[05:56] <kgoetz> yes
[05:56] <kgoetz> (imo, of course)
[05:56] <encompass> kgoetz: cool, and any second or third opinions?
[05:57] <pygi> you should be fine
[05:57] <encompass> I was figuring....
[05:57] <encompass> thanks
[05:57] <pygi> yw
[05:58] <kgoetz> this is a cingle CPU(3ghz p4)+2 gig of ram, does 20 clients
[05:58] <kgoetz> you have pretty much exactly doulbe ;)
[05:58] <encompass> hehe
[05:58] <encompass> cool yeah I think I will have plenty then
[05:59] <pygi> ^_^
[06:00] <encompass> k-6th grade in the us
[06:01] <kgoetz> th eonly way your going to get close to crippling that systemis lots of openoffice+lots of fancy screensvers
[06:01] <encompass> hehe
[06:01] <encompass> cool
[06:03] <encompass> do we know when the next lts is out...?
[06:04] <kgoetz> gutsy+1 at earliest, but not set
[06:04] <kgoetz> sooner the better :)
[06:05] <encompass> I agree... I would love to have one every 2 or 3 years
[06:05] <encompass> but we shall see...
[06:06] <kgoetz> has to be at least 3 years, as thats how long an LTS is supported for ;)
[06:22] <bddebian> Heya
[06:32] <LaserJock> sbalneav: pingy pingy
[06:33] <sbalneav> LaserJock: ICMP ECHO REPLY
[06:33] <pygi> sbalneav, but ICMP doesn't work!
[06:33] <pygi> it's filtered
[06:33] <sbalneav> Yet somehow, it managed to get through
[06:33] <LaserJock> sbalneav: when are you and Jim getting into Sevilla?
[06:33] <sbalneav> I have the paper right here!
[06:34] <sbalneav> Wednesday, 755 PM
[06:34] <ogra> middle of the night :P
[06:34] <sbalneav> Conf starts thursday, right?
[06:34] <LaserJock> sbalneav: so 19:55?
[06:35] <sbalneav> Correctamundo
[06:35] <sbalneav> You gonna be on the same flight?
[06:35] <LaserJock> no
[06:35] <ogra> sbalneav, yep
[06:36] <sbalneav> heh, I leave the day before at 1:30
[06:36] <sbalneav> Gonna be another long travel day.
[06:36] <sbalneav> Plus I get jetlag this time.
[06:37] <sbalneav> Gonna have to see if I can take a sleeping pill or something with me, so I can catch some Z's on the plane.
[06:37] <LaserJock> I leave at 6:50am tomorrow
[06:37] <LaserJock> I get to Sevilla at 15:00 on Wednesday
[06:37] <sbalneav> yeah, it's a haul.
[06:38] <LaserJock> the long stretch of the flight for me is still a bit shorter than the Paris trip
[06:46] <pete__> hey LaserJock
[06:46] <LaserJock> hola pete__
[06:48] <LaserJock> gotta run, bbl
[06:49] <encompass> so howdy all, I am working on PyStart and wanted to inform you have all my work so far online in launchpad an bazaar if anyone cares to look.
[06:50] <encompass> let me get the link
[06:50] <encompass> https://launchpad.net/pystart/
[06:50] <encompass> you can review my docs on the project if you like.  And even make requests.
[06:51] <encompass> oh yes... and PyStart is one of the GSoC project
[06:53] <pete__> encompass, ok ok ok
[06:53] <pete__> I'll get you on the planet a little later ;)
[06:53] <pete__> hehehe
[06:54] <encompass> cbx33: is that you?!
[06:54] <encompass> heh
[07:12] <encompass> pete__: are you headed to the conference?
[07:41] <pete__> no
[09:31] <crimsun> ogra: got libflashsupport compiled against gnutls and working.
[09:37] <cliebow_> whoa!
[09:37] <ogra> crimsun, you rock
[09:38] <ogra> now to get the license past the archive maintainers :)
[09:54] <mario> ogra, you have just a sec for me?
[09:54] <mario> I just need someone to check I'm not hallucinating :)
[10:05] <ogra> whats wrong ?
[10:06] <mario> ogra, I got it now. Was just checking why can't I see any burning dependency on a strictly burning application
[11:25] <sacater> highvoltage: so is the 2nd MAY gathering IRC section still in #sacater
[11:25] <sacater> ?
[11:56] <pygi> bddebian, poke?