[12:14] <adaptr> lettuce nothing better, no
[12:15] <lettuce> ok, thanks
[12:16] <lettuce> btw, has anyone else had a lot of programs craching after updating to fiesty?
[12:16] <mat1980> ehm.. lettuce, sorry, kmplayer is for video, amarok for music...
[12:16] <lettuce> *crashing
[12:16] <wolferine> nuu, any ideas?
[12:16] <lettuce> oh
[12:16] <epimeth> lettuce: no problems, but I installed not updated
[12:16] <epimeth> wolferine: you israeli?
[12:17] <lettuce> does kmplayer support all the filetypes that VLC does?
[12:17] <epimeth> adaptr: I used the nVidia script... absolutely nothing else worked for me
[12:18] <mat1980> lettuce, I guess it can, but I'm not sure
[12:18] <nuu> wolferine: sec im on the phone
[12:18] <mat1980> however I can watch all kind of video
[12:18] <lettuce> ok
[12:19] <epimeth> wolferine: lol... I thought you were *saying* "nuu"... guess you're not israeli
[12:21] <Graham> Nobody here use SuperKaramba?
[12:22] <nuu> re
[12:23] <nuu> wolferine: there's an ssh option to forward X11 explicitly
[12:23] <nuu> -X iirc
[12:23] <nuu> but check man ssh to be sure
[12:23] <baskitcaise> Graham, I do
[12:24] <wolferine> nuu is that on the local or remote box?
[12:24] <nuu> you ssh to a remote box, specifying -X on the local ssh line
[12:24] <wolferine> and whats explicitly?
[12:24] <wolferine> give me an example nuu?
[12:25] <nuu> then you startx remotely
[12:25] <nuu> and it should appear locally
[12:25] <nuu> an example ?
[12:25] <Gamic> explicitly means your telling it exactly what you want it to do. Your "explaining" ;)
[12:25] <wolferine> i have to startx?
[12:25] <wolferine> ssh -X user@host ?
[12:25] <nuu> you have to run whatever you want to run graphically
[12:25] <wolferine> nuu your losing me
[12:26] <nuu> wolferine: let's assume x isnt running remotely
[12:26] <Graham> baskitcaise: What add-ons do you use with it?
[12:26] <nuu> you ssh -X <remotebox>
[12:26] <nuu> then you type "sudo startx"
[12:27] <nuu> and you should be able to control it locally
[12:27] <nuu> if not, at least you can control an xterm or whatever you need for graphical access
[12:27] <nuu> a program that opens a window, that is
[12:27] <nuu> or whatever
[12:27] <ericsson> What package name could/would this be: Can't find X includes.
[12:27] <wolferine> nuu
[12:27] <wolferine> here is what happens
[12:27] <baskitcaise> mainly the LWP weather app and a couple of others, at the moment my lappy has no 3D accel so to many cause probs here
[12:27] <wolferine> sudo startx
[12:27] <wolferine> Password:
[12:27] <wolferine> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/profx/.serverauth.28624
[12:27] <wolferine> Fatal server error:
[12:27] <wolferine> Server is already active for display 0
[12:28] <lunar-raven> !xgl
[12:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:28] <blekos> what i miss in Kubuntu is the ability to change/delete a folder/file when I'm in a save option (e.g save as->u see the contents of a folder, and you want to rename a folder in that directory)
[12:28] <baskitcaise> The chiset is c**p on this box, waiting for my new/better one
[12:29] <baskitcaise> No sensors and no 3D ( sis chipset was an emergency buy )
[12:29] <nuu> wolferine: not sure if you can attach to a running X server
[12:29] <nuu> try killing it
[12:29] <wolferine> nuu I was running X on the remote machine (locally)
[12:30] <wolferine> but I am physically at home atm
[12:30] <wolferine> so will this kill X on the remote machine
[12:30] <Crell> Does the new adept in Feisty have an expert  mode or something that lists all packages rather than just selected ones?
[12:30] <wolferine> thus killing my view on the remote computer?
[12:30] <Graham> baskitcaise: More to the point, I've got a problem, when I try to install themes, I press install and it opens kwrite... any idea?
[12:30] <nuu> hm
[12:30] <nuu> not sure i follow you
[12:30] <Crell> Um.  Never mind, adept is the same it's just the new other package manager that is weak. :-)
[12:30] <nuu> you were running X on the REMOTE machine locally ?
[12:31] <wolferine> nuu locally, meaning physically
[12:31] <nuu> ok
[12:31] <wolferine> if I was physically in front of the remote computer rigth now
[12:31] <wolferine> its running X
[12:31] <wolferine> but I am not there, I am trying to connect to it remotely
[12:31] <nuu> ok, so yes, it'd kill X
[12:32] <baskitcaise> Graham: is this using the Superkaramba install window?
[12:32] <wolferine> nuu,
[12:32] <wolferine> ok
[12:33] <wolferine> so, once I kill X there, I can open it for my shh
[12:33] <wolferine> correct?
[12:33] <Graham> baskitcaise: Yes.
[12:33] <nuu> wolferine: this might involve more steps though
[12:34] <nuu> have you tried firing up an xterm for now, just to try ?
[12:34] <baskitcaise> graham: any specific theme or all of them? which version superkaramba?
[12:34] <wolferine> nuu what?
[12:34] <nuu> anyway you get the point wolferine
[12:34] <wolferine> i dont get the point
[12:34] <nuu> killing it, should allow you to start a new one and have it displayed locally
[12:34] <nuu> that's the point you get
[12:35] <joe_> good day
[12:35] <Graham> 0.41 it's just some of them.
[12:35] <AlkMan> can some1 tel me hou i can install somting on umbuntu with the extention tar.gz im total new -:)
[12:35] <ka0z> a bit of a tip to anyone w/ a sister, never give her your password... almost lost my mind
[12:35] <baskitcaise> Can you point me to one that don`t work as I cannot find any here, using 0.41 too
[12:36] <nuu> btw wolferine: you may want to give freenx a try
[12:36] <nuu> it uses ssh forwarding as well
[12:36] <wolferine> nuu
[12:36] <wolferine> thanks anyways
[12:36] <nuu> (i'm assuming that given your topology you have restrictions in the firewall)
[12:36] <Graham> liquid weather ++
[12:36] <nuu> hence you want ssh and not, say, vnc over vpn or whatever
[12:37] <AlkMan> can some1 tel me hou i can install somting on umbuntu with the extention tar.gz im total new -:)
[12:37] <baskitcaise> I am using ver 14.5 of that and it works fine
[12:37] <nuu> what happened when you did startx wolferine?
[12:38] <lunar-raven> !beryl
[12:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:38] <rrabbit74> ALKMAN: tar.gz is an archive like .sip
[12:38] <baskitcaise> Graham: will give 14.6 a go now to see if it has changed
[12:38] <wolferine> nuu
[12:38] <rrabbit74> zip :)
[12:38] <wolferine> im not sure you can help
[12:38] <joe_> how can I install the nvidia proprietary drivers on kubuntu?
[12:38] <ka0z> alk..you can probably find that easily by doing a search on google... as w/ what rrabbit74 said, it's an archive,
[12:38] <baskitcaise> Graham: give me 5 will be back
[12:38] <nuu> why so wolferine?
[12:39] <ka0z> joe, are you talking about the defaults installed by kubuntu?
[12:39] <lontra> if i install an icon theme via kcontrol where should it install it to?
[12:40] <AlkMan> yep i know what it is but my problem is when i do unpack it what is next,ik sorry but im from windows and wanne go to linux but need some help here -:)
[12:40] <nuu> if i got it right, you want X tunneling over ssh, that's precisely what -X does...
[12:40] <nuu> if there's a communication problem then sorry, i'm not a native english
[12:40] <joe_> has anyone in here been able to install the nvidia drivers?
[12:41] <nuu> joe_: what problem did you get ?
[12:41] <LinkCanabico> joe it should be a a pakeg
[12:41] <joe_> in "add/remove programs" the proprietary nvidia drivers sectino is greyed out
[12:41] <joe_> and in adept there is only one package named nvidia and that is "nvidia-common", not "nvidia-glx"
[12:42] <LinkCanabico> have you tried the drivers from the nvidia page
[12:42] <LinkCanabico> ist a bin file
[12:42] <joe_> not yet, I thought that feisty fawn would include them.
[12:42] <joe_> ok, I'll do that then.
[12:42] <joe_> thank you.
[12:42] <nuu> joe: feisty includes open source drivers
[12:43] <joe_> my bad then.
[12:43] <nuu> not the closed source, faster ones
[12:43] <joe_> thank you LinkCanabico and nuu
[12:43] <nuu> download them from the nvidia.com drivers download page
[12:44] <adaptr> nuu you have no clue what you're talking about
[12:44] <nuu> then switch to a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), stop kde (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop), and run the binary nvidia installer (sudo sh <installer.sh>)
[12:44] <adaptr> the restricted drivers *are* nvidia's closed-source drivers
[12:44] <AlkMan> i feel so stupid in my unbutu is it becose i am maby?
[12:44] <adaptr> don't use the ones from their site, it will only cause you grief
[12:44] <nuu> adaptr: they're not included in feisty, adaptr
[12:44] <adaptr> nuu yes, they are
[12:44] <adaptr> I am running them now
[12:45] <baskitcaise> Graham: paste this addy into kget or whatever, should d/load the theme good, I had the kwrite prob so just copied the ;link
[12:45] <nuu> i had a grey box as well, maybe there's a repo i didn't enable
[12:45] <nuu> i alwys install them from binary off nvidia.com, anyhow
[12:45] <adaptr> advising people to donwload the drivers from nvidia when they haven't yet tried the normal ones is not very helpful
[12:45] <baskitcaise> whoops here it is: http://liquidweather.innetrex.net/lwp-14.6.skz
[12:45] <cal> Hi people, can anyone tell me how to enable compiz (desktop effects) in kubuntu feisty, I can't find it like I can un ubuntu
[12:45] <nuu> adaptr: be my guest and take over
[12:45] <Graham> I got it.
[12:46] <baskitcaise> OK mow?
[12:46] <joe_> adaptr: how did you install the ones included in kubuntu then?
[12:46] <LinkCanabico> this is the dir http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[12:46] <baskitcaise> mow/mno
[12:46] <Graham> Although I tried installing it, it complained of a broken dependancy, quit the program and removed my smegging widgets.
[12:46] <baskitcaise> Sausage fingers here tonight, OK now?
[12:46] <Graham> I'm going to bed now.
[12:46] <adaptr> joe_ sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx
[12:46] <Graham> Fuck it
[12:46] <LinkCanabico> and they alvays work not like the free ones
[12:46] <joe_> adaptr: I am trying that now
[12:47] <adaptr> joe_ then edit xorg.conf and modprobe nvidia
[12:47] <adaptr> joe_ but you MUST ensure that all other versions are removed
[12:47] <adaptr> or renamed, or whatever
[12:47] <joe_> adaptr: nvidia-glx was not found in the repositories.
[12:48] <adaptr> joe_ then enable the right repositories first
[12:48] <joe_> adaptr: I uncommented *all* repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list that were commented.
[12:48] <joe_> any idea what repositories to add?
[12:49] <adaptr> joe_ open up system -> administration -> software sources, and click the "proprietary drivers" box
[12:49] <LinkCanabico> use the link i gave you and its don in 3 min they even have realy good intructions
[12:49] <joe_> adaptr: as I said earlier on... that box is greyed out.
[12:50] <adaptr> joe_ then the server you selected does not have it
[12:50] <adaptr> first select a server close to you, or in a pinch, any other server
[12:50] <joe_> adaptr: how does one select another server
[12:51] <adaptr> I usually just edit sources.list; you can put <yourcountryID> in front of archive.ubuntu.com for every line
[12:51] <joe_> I'll look into it.
[12:51] <adaptr> I have not yet found an option in the GUI for that
[12:51] <adaptr> but it should be standard, I thin kits stuppid
[12:51] <adaptr> stoopid, even
[12:52] <levi_> Questionm
[12:52] <levi_> -m
[12:52] <adaptr> +?
[12:52] <Doctor_Nick> ugh
[12:53] <adaptr> or, it's not  a question unless it has an ?
[12:53] <nuu> heh
[12:53] <levi_> I downloaded the Kubuntu 7 iso from kubuntu.org, burned it correctly bioooted it but no matter what I choose in the options menu I cant load correctly off the disc.
[12:53] <levi_> Why?
[12:53] <levi_> *booted
[12:53] <nuu> joe: you can manage repositories graphically from within adept, if you dont want to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:53] <adaptr> who knows ? enable safe mode and see what happens
[12:53] <nuu> that is, adept->adept->manage repositories
[12:53] <levi_> trid everything
[12:53] <levi_> *e
[12:54] <levi_> Nothing reads correctly
[12:54] <adaptr> nuu you can't select which mirror it uses from a package manager...
[12:54] <levi_> except actually memtest
[12:54] <joe2369> Hi. I just tried to do the Fiesty upgrade but it hit an error half way through. A pop-up came up asking me to submit a bug report and then try to recover, but the pop-up and upgrader both hanged.  I believe the system is now in an inconsistent state.  What to do?
[12:54] <levi_> I lied xD
[12:54] <nuu> you can
[12:54] <ka0z> levi_ did you run the option to check the disk?
[12:54] <levi_> No I couldnt
[12:54] <ka0z> could simply be a bad burn...
[12:54] <levi_> the error message came up "disc I/O error"
[12:55] <joe_> Gosh, I am so stupid!  I just hit refresh in adept and suddenly there are the packages for nvidia :)))
[12:55] <levi_> itprobably is
[12:55] <levi_> which means I wasted my last balnk
[12:55] <nuu> see that "download from" dropdown in adept adaptr ?
[12:55] <nuu> that's what you're looking for
[12:55] <adaptr> I don't have adept, but yes
[12:55] <joe2369> Is there a way to run the upgrade tool from the console?
[12:55] <levi_> yeah
[12:56] <ka0z> of course joe
[12:56] <levi_> sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <levi_> sudo apt-get install
[12:56] <levi_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <nuu> you don't have adept, yet you sentence that "you can't select which mirror from a package manager"... that's rather rich, coming from someone who just told someone else he has no clue what he's on about
[12:56] <ka0z> if anyone has come across this issue, i been trying to find a program to convert avi files to burn a dvd.. i would prefer not to do it all command line
[12:57] <nuu> don't you think ?
[12:57] <joe2369> that's not what I mean.  I mean the Feisty upgrade tool.  It was going to try to "recover" somehow.  I didn't know that apt had such magic built in. ;-)
[12:57] <levi_> of course you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list (correct me if thats wrong) by editing the document under kdesu and removing the pound # symbols in front of anything with deb in front of it
[12:57] <LinkCanabico> ka0z konverter
[12:58] <joe_> I am doing a restart now.  See you all later.
[12:58] <ka0z> kew... ty
[12:58] <nuu> see ya joe
[12:58] <LinkCanabico> good luk joe
[12:58] <levi_> Hey
[12:59] <levi_> can I update to feisty without a disc install? Just over the internet i mean
[12:59] <K-Ryan> Hey guys I'm in big trouble here, I was upgrading to Feisty Fawn and an error message popped up. Now the distribution upgrade window isn't responding. What should I do?
[12:59] <joe2369> So you don't think I need to use the gui upgrade tool to recover?  A simple apt-get upgrade will fix everything?  I thought the "recovery" that the upgrader wanted to do meant rolling back to the previous package versions.
[12:59] <stdin> levi_: sure
[12:59] <stdin> !upgrade | levi_
[12:59] <ubotu> levi_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:59] <levi_> No.. command linne should work
[01:00] <levi_> but thats all I got for you
[01:00] <levi_> =)
[01:01] <K-Ryan> Anyone know what I should do?
[01:01] <levi_> Im not ridiculous with Kubuntu or Linux in general yet
[01:02] <K-Ryan> Anyone?
[01:03] <ka0z> me either levi_ best advice i can give you is make notes on basic commands and stuff and keep em safe
[01:03] <ka0z> i have a folder in firefox dedicated to tutorials...
[01:03] <LinkCanabico> K-Ryan meaby kill
[01:04] <ryanakca> what's the difference between libqt4-core-kdecopy and libqt4-core ?
[01:05] <ka0z> copy i would assume is a backup of the original files
[01:05] <ryanakca> ka0z: kk
[01:07] <chuck> !nvidia
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <w00dr0w> hello?
[01:07] <ka0z> wut up w00d
[01:07] <w00dr0w> I know i hate it when ppl do this, but i gotta do it myself
[01:07] <w00dr0w> im having a problem with kbuntu livecd
[01:08] <w00dr0w> IE, it wont load
[01:08] <ka0z> strange...just leaving it in the drive at startup should auto launch it
[01:08] <LinkCanabico> can it be your bios?
[01:08] <w00dr0w> i get to a blue screen with a progress bar, but the bar never moves
[01:09] <just-this-time> what is login.defs ? feisty upgrade asks for decision
[01:09] <w00dr0w> the cd loads n stuff, but once it hits the blue screen with a progress bar it just sits there
[01:09] <ka0z> strange..
[01:09] <w00dr0w> yea
[01:09] <rr73> how do i "refresh" my kernel drivers/modules?
[01:10] <w00dr0w> could it be hardware related?
[01:10] <ka0z> possibly..
[01:11] <baskitcaise> n73: depmod?
[01:11] <w00dr0w> i never found a list of supported hardware on the website, so i dont know if its compatable
[01:11] <ka0z> i'd guess a bad burn... all the live cds i've ever had issues w/ were due to a bad iso
[01:11] <baskitcaise> refreshes the dependencies of your modules
[01:11] <ka0z> is it custom or retail w00d"
[01:11] <w00dr0w> "retail"?
[01:11] <ka0z> notebook?
[01:11] <w00dr0w> i d/l it off the website
[01:11] <lontra> i have no icons in oo.org2 :/
[01:12] <w00dr0w> this is the iso i have
[01:12] <rr73> will a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-image-<kernel> work?
[01:12] <w00dr0w> kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:12] <ka0z> w00d, there should be an option for a mem test in the list of options when you first boot up the live cd
[01:12] <HymnToLife> rr73, what do you mean "refresh" ?
[01:12] <ka0z> it takes a while to run but it'd let you know if it was the disk...
[01:12] <rr73> HymnToLife: reinstall, i screwed up some files
[01:13] <HymnToLife> I don't think so
[01:13] <w00dr0w> couldnt i just check the md5 checksum of the disk?
[01:13] <HymnToLife> rr73, just apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-whatever
[01:13] <rr73> kilrae: dont go to 7.04 it breaks too much stuff
[01:13] <rr73> HymnToLife: ok ty
[01:13] <kilrae> hmm, shall have to look into that then
[01:14] <rr73> why doesnt konsole auto complete packs?
[01:14] <w00dr0w> ka0z, ill do as you say and do the test, hope your on when i get back
[01:14] <ka0z> that could be fine, personally though i'd feel more confident knowing the software included to check integrity told me it was fine..but that's my opinion
[01:14] <w00dr0w> brb
[01:14] <HymnToLife> rr73, because that deature is not implemented it apt
[01:14] <BluesKaj> ~/tovid-0.30$ sudo make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[01:14] <HymnToLife> nothing to do with konsole, or even with Bash
[01:14] <rr73> HymnToLife: i can get it to work on other kubuntus tho
[01:15] <HymnToLife> that's funny, I never noticed it
[01:15] <ka0z> gl w00d
[01:15] <HymnToLife> anyway, you can use $(uname -r) for your ernel version
[01:15] <rr73> HymnToLife: thats not the point
[01:15] <HymnToLife> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:16] <rr73> HymnToLife: i type it out by hand, and i didnt say i wanted to reinstall the kernel im on
[01:16] <HymnToLife> oh fine, do what you want then
[01:16] <ka0z> i'm dreading the day i have to recompile my kernel... such a long process and so much can go wrong...
[01:16] <lontra> how do i find what wireless card i have?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> can you guys tell me what happened there ?  "~/tovid-0.30$ sudo make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[01:16] <hsystem-x> rr73: It doesn complete name of the packs because there is a lot of versions of the same package in the repositories. SO, what about if i want an specific pack?
[01:16] <hsystem-x> a*
[01:16] <hsystem-x> doesn't*
[01:17] <HymnToLife> ka0z, I recompile my kernel approcimately every week
[01:17] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[01:17] <HymnToLife> once you know how to do, it's very simple
[01:17] <HymnToLife> and certainly not "long"
[01:17] <BluesKaj> installed build-essential , "make" is installed ...can't figure why this isn't working ?
[01:17] <ka0z> lol... why would you need to so often?
[01:17] <rr73> hsystem-x: anyways it should show me a little box asking if i want to show all 500 or so
[01:17] <lontra> anyone else have this problem http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=1520680806463526dc2e13e&p=screen
[01:17] <rr73> i dont even get that dialof
[01:17] <HymnToLife> ka0z, because I like to live on the bleeding edge
[01:18] <HymnToLife> so whenever a new kernel version is out
[01:18] <HymnToLife> compile, install, reboot :p
[01:18] <hsystem-x> well if that is your problem, use synaptics or adept or whatever you prefer.
[01:18] <rr73> HymnToLife: if u compile your own kernel you lose support
[01:18] <HymnToLife> rr73, no, I don't
[01:18] <HymnToLife> cause I don't use Ubuntu :p
[01:18] <ka0z> heh... i no doubt will be right there some time soon, but for now i'll stick w/ my stability...
[01:18] <rr73> ur fucking retarded
[01:18] <LinkCanabico> but compiling an customizing it is fun
[01:18] <ka0z> can't really afford down time...
[01:19] <ka0z> rr73... who that would do that even looks for support...
[01:19] <ka0z> i've never called any numbers or emailed anyone when i had issues... i fix it myself...
[01:21] <hsystem-x> HymnToLife, what distro you have?
[01:21] <hsystem-x> or, it is your own distro?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> hsystem-x, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu (plus FreeBSD, which is not linux)
[01:21] <HymnToLife> right now, I'm on Gentoo
[01:21] <hsystem-x> FreeBSD = unix.
[01:21] <lontra> how do i find out what wireless card i am using?
[01:21] <hsystem-x> good.
[01:22] <HymnToLife> hmm, not really
[01:22] <HymnToLife> I prefer calling it a "UNIX-like"
[01:22] <hsystem-x> ok unix-like.
[01:22] <hsystem-x> Remember 386bsb
[01:22] <hsystem-x> bsd*
[01:22] <HymnToLife> remember AT&T Unix ? :p
[01:23] <hsystem-x> right. But it wasn AT & T unix
[01:24] <ctothej> how can i do a string search on multiple pdf files?  like adobe reader does on a whole directory
[01:24] <nuu> lontra, sudo dmesg | grep -i network should give you a good start
[01:24] <HymnToLife> well, strictly speaking
[01:24] <HymnToLife> AT&T Unix is the only "true" Unix
[01:24] <hsystem-x> it was wasn't*
[01:24] <hsystem-x> wasn't* damn spell..
[01:24] <nuu> or sudo lspci | grep -i network
[01:24] <HymnToLife> that's why I call Linux and BSDs "Unix-likes"
[01:24] <hsystem-x> yup but Linux was practically Minix Like, but minix is unix-like.
[01:24] <hsystem-x> is*
[01:24] <lontra> nuu: that gave me no output
[01:24] <nuu> hsystem-x: actually, minix was very different in conception
[01:24] <unix_infidel> you guys talking kernel theory or user experience theory?
[01:24] <baskitcaise> lontra: you could try lspci -v will show what hardware on pci bus, more v`s more info: lspci -vvv
[01:24] <nuu> lontra, do you use an usb wifi card ?
[01:25] <hsystem-x> yeah, but the person who writed minix, was a teacher of unix.
[01:25] <nuu> aha unix_infidel, well in that contest, both apply ;)
[01:25] <nuu> minix was crappy, let's face it
[01:25] <bonbonthejon> *nix
[01:25] <w00dr0w> ka0z u still here?
[01:25] <lontra> nuu: it's a built in card ... i know i need ndiswrapper it's an intel i think
[01:25] <w00dr0w> ka0z u still here?
[01:25] <ka0z> yes w00d
[01:25] <hsystem-x> yeah but thanks to minix , we have LInux.
[01:25] <w00dr0w> whoops, didnt mean to double post
[01:25] <w00dr0w> ok
[01:25] <HymnToLife> lontra, most Intel wireless adapters have native Linux drivers
[01:25] <w00dr0w> the cd test passed
[01:25] <nuu> lontra: lspci and see what you can find
[01:25] <HymnToLife> no need for ndiswrapper
[01:25] <lontra> Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PC
[01:26] <ka0z> well that's great news...
[01:26] <w00dr0w> and a lil more info on me trying to load it
[01:26] <ka0z> k
[01:26] <nuu> there you have it lontra ;)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <bonbonthejon> lontra: I think I have the same card, it uses the bcm43xz
[01:26] <HymnToLife> s/z/x
[01:27] <bonbonthejon> thanks HymnToLife
[01:27] <w00dr0w> it gets past the bluetooth thing, then the screen goes black for a second, then flashes some text for 1milisecond, then goes to a blue screen with kubuntu and a loading bad thats @ 0%
[01:27] <w00dr0w> bar*
[01:28] <w00dr0w> before i get too deep into this, the 64bit ver will work on a c2d right?
[01:28] <HymnToLife> w00dr0w, yes
[01:28] <hsystem-x> Tanenbaum the guy who writed minix, he writed a book called Operatign Systems : Design and IMplementation. Linux learned from that book, and that book comes with minix, and show how an operating system
[01:28] <hsystem-x> like minix is made.
[01:28] <hsystem-x> or how it works.
[01:28] <hsystem-x> Lnus*****
[01:29] <hsystem-x> Linus****
[01:29] <adaptr> the point being ?
[01:29] <bonbonthejon> slighty !offtopic
[01:29] <ka0z> linus torvaldz... w/0 which none of this could be possible... all hail
[01:29] <HymnToLife> well, AST was very critical towards Linux when it was released
[01:29] <w00dr0w> if needbe, i can make a video of it trying to load, but itll take a few to get it u/l online
[01:29] <HymnToLife> but that's slightly !offtopic I guess :p
[01:30] <adaptr> ASwhat ?
[01:30] <HymnToLife> AST, Andrew S. Tannenbaum
[01:30] <HymnToLife> the creator of Minix
[01:30] <ka0z> w00d... you never answered my question... are you running it on a desktop or notebook?
[01:30] <w00dr0w> desktop
[01:31] <w00dr0w> sorry, didnt know it was a question
[01:31] <w00dr0w> want to know my hw config?
[01:31] <ka0z> ok and when you say bluetooth do you mean you have bluetooth hardware or
[01:31] <LinkCanabico> were are we i got lost?
[01:31] <K-Ryan> I need help
[01:31] <BluesKaj> !extracodecs
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <hsystem-x> that's the reason why Linux is so similar to Unix. And Unix is not from AT&T, remember that At&T cancelled the project. Ken thompson writed UNix in 4 week.s
[01:31] <hsystem-x> the real UNix.
[01:31] <w00dr0w> no bluetooth harxdware, just, its loading the stuff incase i did
[01:31] <lontra> it sounds like i need to use ndiswrapper and not the broadcom driver
[01:31] <adaptr> hsystem-x again, your point ?
[01:31] <hsystem-x> HymnToLife *
[01:31] <ka0z> oh alright...
[01:31] <K-Ryan> I was upgrading from Edgy to Feisty, the distribution tool popped up with an error, stopped responding, and now it's gone.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> It was in the middle of installing upgrades, what should I do?
[01:32] <ka0z> is it the latest livecd 7.04?
[01:32] <K-Ryan> its not off a livecd
[01:32] <K-Ryan> I was upgrading
[01:32] <w00dr0w> 6.06.1
[01:32] <nuu> hsystem-x: in that book, tanebaum praises the microkernel approach to OS design (just like minix), while linux was (and currently is) a monolithic kernel-based operating system
[01:32] <baskitcaise> lontra: if you neen ndiswrapper for the broadcom then you wiull need to stick the built in bcm43xx module in the blacklist: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:33] <ka0z> hmm... that might be why...might not have proper hardware support...
[01:33] <nuu> so you're right when you say that linus wrote linux to get past the limits of minix, but fact is, the two OSs are really different behind the hood
[01:33] <w00dr0w> i couldnt find any more recent livecd
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> lontra: bcm43xx works, but its slow, and I can only see wireless-g networks
[01:33] <ka0z> all the latest kubuntu install cds run as livecds
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> lontra: I also couldn't get ndiswrapper to work, but you are welcome to try
[01:33] <ka0z> as far as i can tell...
[01:34] <baskitcaise> yep I have same prob here so put the bcm43xx in the black list and use the 2kxp drivers with ndiswrapper.
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: which problem?
[01:35] <w00dr0w> well i dont want to waste another cd (limited qualtity now that they're prettymuch EOL'd) unless i know for sure
[01:35] <baskitcaise> The kernel bcm43xx module does not work 100% for my carbus wifi
[01:35] <K-Ryan> Can anyone help me?
[01:35] <K-Ryan> Sorry to be such a nudge about it
[01:35] <hsystem-x> Well the thing is that Linus Torvalds learned from that book. He was only a student at UNiversity, at that time he only know how to program a little in c and a lot in assembly, especially with the processor 386.
[01:35] <K-Ryan> But I'm pretty sure if I restart my computer Kubuntu isn't going to work.
[01:35] <baskitcaise> Much less heartache when roaming to use the xp driver
[01:35] <adaptr> hsystem-x close acquaintance, are you ?
[01:36] <LinkCanabico> K-Rayan try reboot
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> K-Ryan: was it downloading, or did it start to install
[01:36] <K-Ryan> It was installing
[01:36] <ka0z> w00d, is there a specific reason you burned 6.06
[01:36] <w00dr0w> brb for a sec
[01:36] <ka0z> k
[01:36] <nuu> hsystem-x: that's very true. and despite of how harsh the flame war between torvalds and tanebaum was, tanebaum is nothing less than an OS god, imho
[01:36] <w00dr0w> it was the latest version i saw that said livecd haha
[01:36] <LinkCanabico> if it dosent work reboot from the prewius kernel
[01:36] <baskitcaise> night night guys/gals
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: I dont have XP drivers, only Vista
[01:37] <ka0z> gotta love mis-information...
[01:37] <hsystem-x> right.
[01:37] <K-Ryan> Alrighty, let's see
[01:37] <lontra> does anyone know a good ubuntu how to for ndiswrapper?
[01:37] <bonbonthejon> !ndiswrapper > lontra
[01:37] <baskitcaise> bonbon you might be able tyo grab them from the net though?
[01:37] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: no, HP doesnt have any for my laptop
[01:37] <hsystem-x> Don forget that Linux implemented all the features that MInix had at that time. SO that prove that he learned from that book.
[01:38] <baskitcaise> what model?
[01:38] <nuu> well about that, i beg to differ ;
[01:38] <nuu> ;)
[01:38] <nuu> linus did a clean room implementation of minix
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: hp dv2222
[01:38] <ka0z> w00d, have you looked aroung kubuntu.org... apparently they'll even ship the disks to you free of charge.. might be a way to go
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: or dv2225, I forget
[01:38] <nuu> that means he saw the functionality of the minix tools, and replicated it in linux
[01:38] <nuu> by recoding it from scratch
[01:39] <hsystem-x> right.
[01:39] <nuu> he definitely learnt from the book
[01:39] <baskitcaise> give me 5 mins I will have a look
[01:39] <helder> #ubuntu-br
[01:39] <nuu> but the book is a praise to microkernel approach. and linus went for the opposide road
[01:39] <trotek> can i make knetworkmanager NOT start when KDE starts? i have my wireless config handled by wpa_supplicant already
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: its the dv2000 model with NVIDIA stuff
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: and AMD
[01:39] <nuu> now i'm the last person you could call a "linux fanboi", but that was pretty brave at the time
[01:39] <hsystem-x> yeah, but that's because is easier to develop a monolitic kernel than a microkernel.
[01:40] <vinces1979> trotek: system settings - advanced - services
[01:40] <trotek> vinces1979: thanks :)
[01:40] <vinces1979> trotek: np
[01:40] <nuu> well hsystem-x, developing a kernel is NOT easy for starters :)
[01:40] <Doctor_Nick> look
[01:41] <Doctor_Nick> the guy who made minix said that linus did not copy him
[01:41] <w00dr0w> brb again, like 10min at least
[01:41] <Doctor_Nick> end of story
[01:41] <ka0z> k
[01:41] <joe_> rehi
[01:41] <Doctor_Nick> dammit
[01:41] <nuu> a microkernel means you split every component into subcomponents, and have a very barebone code core always up and dealing with these subcomponents
[01:41] <hsystem-x> yep, end-user programs do the task.
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> guys, I think this needs to be moved to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <ka0z> i would guess minix inspired him but he still went his own route... otherwise it'd be no better than minix
[01:42] <joe_> nvidia drivers work, resolution is fixed... all is well :)
[01:42] <levi_> I feel pretty stupid..
[01:42] <ka0z> why is that levi_
[01:42] <levi_> Using the network updae to 7
[01:42] <nuu> that's not EXTREMELY "harder" than coding a larger code core, implementing the whole subset of memory, filesystem, hardware abstraction, and whatnot tasks
[01:42] <levi_> Dunno how xD
[01:43] <nuu> my point being you still have to pull out the code from your wizard's hat, one way or another
[01:43] <nuu> ;)
[01:43] <levi_> I dont knw whether to add that one line mentioned to my repository or not.
[01:43] <BluesKaj> !multimedia
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:43] <ka0z> does it explain why you should add it levi_
[01:44] <levi_> yes.
[01:44] <levi_> if i have edgy KDE
[01:44] <levi_> and I donno if i do
[01:44] <levi_> but ottherwiose I cant find in adept what its telling me to do
[01:44] <levi_> *otherwise
[01:44] <ka0z> edgy eft is the previous version of ubuntu
[01:45] <baskitcaise> bonbonthejon: this any help- http://www.diit.unict.it/users/dpatti/bipingus_conf/bipingus.html
[01:45] <levi_> 5.10 right?
[01:45] <baskitcaise> I know it os for gentoo but I am dropping asleep here
[01:45] <K-Ryan> Good news, it works
[01:46] <ka0z> 5.1 is breezy
[01:46] <LinkCanabico> congrats
[01:46] <ka0z> dapper is 6.06
[01:46] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: no, thats the intel one, mine has all AMD/NVIDIA stuff, but thanks
[01:46] <levi_> I guessed.. i dont know
[01:46] <K-Ryan> Is there a way to finish what wasn't finished?
[01:46] <levi_> I have dapper
[01:46] <levi_> I know that
[01:46] <LinkCanabico> K-Ryan did it update?
[01:46] <K-Ryan> Did what update?
[01:46] <bonbonthejon> K-Ryan: sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:47] <K-Ryan> Oh, dunno yet, hold on
[01:47] <LinkCanabico> or install?
[01:47] <ka0z> ok so you're a release behind...
[01:47] <levi_> mhmm
[01:48] <levi_> I dont want to completly re-do my hard drive or vconfig though
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> ka0z: dapper is LTS
[01:48] <levi_> *config
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> levi_: dapper is LTS (long time support), its a very stable version, if it works, then keep it
[01:48] <baskitcaise> bonbon if you have no luck then drop me a line at <mynick>@gmx.co.uk I will have a look in the morning. gotta go bed.
[01:48] <levi_> well I want to update because Im having allot of glitches and hardware problems
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> baskitcaise: thanks
[01:49] <baskitcaise> np.
[01:49] <baskitcaise> bye
[01:49] <ka0z> oh...hmm, thanx for the info bon, johnny five input input
[01:49] <K-Ryan> Alright, the upgrade finished
[01:50] <LinkCanabico> K-Ryan good
[01:50] <K-Ryan> Anything else?
[01:51] <LinkCanabico> test drive it, in case a dependencie did not install
[01:51] <K-Ryan> Alright, sounds good
[01:51] <K-Ryan> By the way, I'm loving that new Kubuntu logo =)
[01:51] <Lunar_Lamp> I got to keybindings in the system settings, and have set a key combination for "konsole" but no matter what I set, pressing that key combination does not open Konsole - what am I doing wrong?
[01:52] <LinkCanabico> no ide im a fedora boy
[01:52] <ka0z> levi_ good news and bad news, apparently you are supposed to upgrade from dapper to edgy and then from edgy to feisty but there seems to be a way around it
[01:52] <levi_> xD
[01:52] <levi_> Whats the way around it
[01:53] <levi_> waait asecond..
[01:53] <levi_> ten why did Ubuntu forums tell me otherwise?
[01:54] <levi_> Oh god
[01:54] <w00dr0w2> im back
[01:54] <levi_> I entriley misread that... -.-
[01:54] <w00dr0w2> sorta
[01:54] <w00dr0w2> new nic
[01:54] <tobias__> how do I set up an ftp server in kubuntu easily?
[01:54] <ka0z> heh... what up number 2
[01:54] <LinkCanabico> install vsftpd
[01:55] <tobias__> thanks
[01:55] <ka0z> no worriez levi_... happens to the best of us
[01:55] <levi_> Any clue yet ka0z?
[01:55] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[01:56] <ka0z> levi_ i can give you the web address, looks a bit complicated, but honestly, i would just do a clean install..hopefully you have your home on a different partition so your info will be safe
[01:56] <nuu> good night all
[01:57] <Tired_> How do I kill a process and make it stay dead?  For some reason, mplayer is running, taking up like 50% CPU, and it keeps restarting itself when I kill it.
[01:57] <levi_> Well i ordered Kubuntu 6 and never got it
[01:57] <Tired_> Ask for a refund?  ;)
[01:57] <LinkCanabico> ctrl esc
[01:57] <levi_> so im not depending on Shipit entirley
[01:57] <LinkCanabico> search mplayer and kill
[01:57] <levi_> it was free?
[01:57] <levi_> xD
[01:57] <nuu> Tired_:  did you try "sudo killall -9 mplayer" ?
[01:57] <tobias__> is vsftpd easy to use?
[01:57] <Tired_> I killed it in the console, but it revives itself when I finish.
[01:58] <Tired_> nuu -> yeah
[01:58] <nuu> then chances are it's not mplayer restarting itself, but another program restarting it
[01:58] <Tired_> I found vsftpd very easy to use.
[01:58] <tobias__> nice
[01:58] <tobias__> :)
[01:58] <Tired_> Hmm.  How does one chase that down?
[01:58] <scott_> Hello?
[01:59] <LinkCanabico> tobias__ yes and its realy secure
[01:59] <nuu> first of all, how many instances of mplayer are respawned ?
[01:59] <Tired_> The vsftpd conf files are very well-commented.  Very easy to configure
[01:59] <tobias__> I got an error message starting it from konsole: "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[01:59] <ka0z> levi_ my advice would be just make sure all your info is backed up, if this means creating a new partition and moving home directory to it then i would insist on that, it's just smart, then burn 7.04 and install
[01:59] <Tired_> nuu -> just the one
[01:59] <nuu> pstree and see whose child it is
[01:59] <tobias__> is there any ftp server that is just, run and play? kinda... Im in a hurry and a noob ;)
[02:00] <Tired_> aha....it's firefox's child
[02:00] <Tired_> well, that's easy
[02:00] <nuu> tobias__: dangerous combo ;P
[02:00] <nuu> most ftp servers that you can install from a package manager are like that anyway
[02:00] <nuu> you just need to take the time to add your users :)
[02:00] <nuu> proftpd is one
[02:01] <LinkCanabico> tobias__ vsftp as long as you configure the users
[02:01] <Tired_> gone now, nuu, and now I know how to fix it in the future.  thanks  :)
[02:01] <nuu> no prob, bye Tired_
[02:01] <LinkCanabico> it was my first and took me 10 mins once installed
[02:01] <tobias__> hmm
[02:02] <tobias__> it has a gui?
[02:02] <tobias__> I think I need a gui
[02:02] <LinkCanabico> no no gui
[02:02] <tobias__> I just need one user added
[02:02] <nuu> hehe
[02:02] <tobias__> cause he has to upload one file
[02:03] <nuu> tobias__: most ftp servers come with the default configuraton that will accept any system user/pass for ftp user/pass
[02:03] <tobias__> Im making a magazine that has to be printed tommorow and my designerfriends computer wont send email ;)
[02:03] <LinkCanabico> cant he use ssh
[02:03] <nuu> that is, a linux user that can logon will also be able to ftp in
[02:03] <tobias__> he is using a bad os...
[02:03] <tobias__> THE evil os
[02:03] <nuu> and you can add a linux user in a very, very easy way using the system tools in your KDE, or by using adduser from the command line
[02:03] <tobias__> ok
[02:04] <HymnToLife> ftp is ftp, as long as he has a FTP client, he'll be able to login with ftp
[02:04] <LinkCanabico> ok install vsftp and tell him user pass for one user
[02:04] <tobias__> but vsftp gave me an error message "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[02:04] <ka0z> gl to all, bbl... need food brain..not...w.
[02:04] <tobias__> on the command "vsftpd"
[02:04] <nuu> you probably tried to run it as non-root
[02:04] <tobias__> with sudo in front
[02:04] <tobias__> "sudo vsftpd" gave the error "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[02:04] <nuu> try "sudo /etc/init.d/vsfptd start"
[02:04] <tobias__> after I typed the password
[02:05] <HymnToLife> you don't need to do that, use the init script to control it
[02:05] <nuu> it's a service, treat it as such :)
[02:05] <HymnToLife> /etc/init.d/vsftpd {start|stop|restart}
[02:05] <tobias__> how do I add users?
[02:05] <HymnToLife> sudo useradd -m username
[02:05] <HymnToLife> for the quick and easy way :p
[02:05] <tobias__> thanx :D
[02:06] <tobias__> with password automatically?
[02:06] <HymnToLife> and then    passwd username
[02:06] <HymnToLife> to set the password
[02:06] <tobias__> ahh! cool
[02:06] <erix> could anyone give me some help with samba vs XP?
[02:06] <HymnToLife> (with sudo)
[02:07] <nuu> is anybody here running kubuntu feisty on a sony vaio laptop, btw ?
[02:07] <adaptr> erix samba wins by a hair
[02:07] <Lunar_Lamp> I got to keybindings in the system settings, and have set a key combination for "konsole" but no matter what I set, pressing that key combination does not open Konsole - what am I doing wrong?
[02:08] <tobias__> hymntolife: I got an error running "sudo /etc/init.d/vsfptd start" - command not found
[02:08] <HymnToLife> tfp*
[02:08] <HymnToLife> ftp*
[02:08] <HymnToLife> damn
[02:08] <nuu> hehe
[02:08] <HymnToLife> I need some sleep
[02:08] <erix> no no, ive need some help with setting samba up
[02:08] <tobias__> aha!
[02:08] <tobias__> thanx
[02:09] <erix> installed samba and all seems to me right setup.
[02:09] <erix> but i dont get any connection with the others
[02:09] <adaptr> how can you tell ?
[02:09] <adaptr> the "others"?
[02:09] <tobias__> hymntolife: will he now be able to upload anywhere on my hd?
[02:09] <erix> the other computers in my home
[02:09] <HymnToLife> no
[02:09] <HymnToLife> only where he has write permissions
[02:09] <adaptr> erix define "connection"
[02:10] <HymnToLife> (i.e. his home folder)
[02:10] <nuu> tobias__: try for yourself
[02:10] <erix> I dont find them.
[02:10] <nuu> ftp localhost
[02:10] <tobias__> Ive never used ftp in kubuntu lol :)
[02:10] <levi_> psst how do I configure apache2?
[02:10] <erix> running Kubuntu/Feisty and its new to me
[02:10] <tobias__> I just write "ftp localhost" ? :)
[02:10] <HymnToLife> levi_, youi edit the config file :)
[02:10] <nuu> yup
[02:10] <levi_> which is pu where?
[02:10] <levi_> *put
[02:11] <tobias__> "this ftp server is anonymous only" ?
[02:11] <levi_> I used repos.
[02:11] <tobias__> Im confused
[02:11] <adaptr> erix open places -=> connect to server
[02:11] <tobias__> I dont want anonymous login
[02:11] <nuu> you should edit the config file for vsftpd and tell it you want to disallow anonymous login
[02:11] <HymnToLife> tobias__, vsftpd doesn't allow local logins by default
[02:11] <tobias__> aah
[02:11] <HymnToLife> because it's vs :p
[02:11] <nuu> ah, sorry, wasnt aware it blocks local logins ;)
[02:12] <tobias__> :)
[02:12] <HymnToLife> levi_, should be somewhere in /etc/apache2
[02:12] <nuu> tell your friend to try then tobias__ ;)
[02:12] <levi_> kk
[02:12] <levi_> ty
[02:12] <tobias__> doing it:)
[02:12] <erix> ok, i find the workgroups but i get following message:
[02:12] <erix> could not connect to host for smb://xxx
[02:13] <levi_> err... Clueless..
[02:13] <adaptr> are there visible shares on your network ?
[02:14] <HymnToLife> levi_, about what ?
[02:14] <nuu> night all!
[02:14] <joe_> night nuu
[02:14] <HymnToLife> the apoache2 config vile is quite heavily commented
[02:14] <LinkCanabico> night
[02:14] <stormzoeker> good night
[02:14] <levi_> How would I configure it to use my second hdd as you open the main directory when someone access it?
[02:14] <erix> there are workgroups but when i connect there are no computers and the message appears.
[02:14] <HymnToLife> serverRoot directive ?
[02:14] <HymnToLife> hmm
[02:14] <HymnToLife> documentRoot, rather
[02:15] <adaptr> erix that was not my question
[02:15] <erix> nope, not even my own
[02:16] <adaptr> share something first
[02:16] <adaptr> for everybody
[02:16] <erix> already did!
[02:17] <adaptr> then enter smb://server/share and you should be good
[02:19] <erix> did not work either, read on some kubuntu forums that Feisty had some issues with samba
[02:19] <adaptr> not that I've noticed
[02:20] <budluva> does kubuntu fiesty come with kde 4?
[02:20] <stormzoeker> budluva: no
[02:20] <budluva> 3.5
[02:21] <budluva> is kde4 in repos yet? or will it have to be final to be in repos?
[02:21] <hephaestus_> hi all, I use the iso-8859-1 enconding (my keyboard model is set to brazilian abnt2), and i cant type some letters with accents like (=>e,=>~a,=>o) on kwrite or any kde programs. is this a kubuntu bug?
[02:21] <lontra_> budluva: it's there (a snapshot) .. but it's not usable unless you develop
[02:22] <HymnToLife> hephaestus_, maybe. does it work in non-KDE programs ?
[02:22] <BluesKaj> budluva: there is a test program at the kde4 site , you can find it there
[02:22] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: in non-kde programs works perfecly
[02:23] <lontra_> budluva: also an opensuse/kde developer has made opensuse kde 4 live cds that are more recent that you may be interested in trying out
[02:23] <HymnToLife> then you probably messed something up in your KDE preferences
[02:23] <budluva> cool thanks
[02:23] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: i dont think so, i check the idioms section for several times
[02:24] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: can you set your keyboard model to brazilian abnt2 and active layout to brazil to test this?
[02:25] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: please
[02:29] <HymnToLife> hephaestus_, just did that, now I need to find the accent keys :p
[02:29] <tobias__> is it possible to ftp to my ip? can someone try?
[02:29] <tobias__> its the one I get when I type "/dns tobias__" right?
[02:31] <HymnToLife> hephaestus_, it seems to work but Im not on Kubuntu
[02:31] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: where you are? ubuntu?
[02:31] <HymnToLife> hephaestus_, Gentoo
[02:31] <tobias__> my ftp server wont work :(
[02:32] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: :(
[02:33] <hephaestus_> anyone can test this?
[02:33] <HymnToLife> and now I cant get my French layout backm need to restart X
[02:33] <tobias__> if u test mine I can test yours
[02:34] <zmarshall> #ubuntu
[02:35] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: i think the bug have a specific relation with kde pkg on kubuntu
[02:35] <HymnToLife> thats very possible
[02:35] <HymnToLife> damn, wheres the front slash on the brqzilian kb
[02:35] <LinkCanabico> tobias__ wats your adress
[02:36] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: how can i report this?
[02:36] <LinkCanabico> il test it
[02:36] <HymnToLife> !bug
[02:36] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:36] <hephaestus_> HymnToLife: thx
[02:36] <tobias__> LinkCanabico: 80.202.223.1 I think thats what it says when I type /dns tobias__
[02:36] <LinkCanabico> OK give me a sec
[02:40] <LinkCanabico> tobias are you firewalled
[02:40] <tobias__> LinkCanabico: how do I fix that?
[02:40] <LinkCanabico> it was a question
[02:40] <tobias__> LinkCanabico: I got no idea, I got a router
[02:40] <LinkCanabico> wat kind?
[02:40] <tobias__> I use kubuntu
[02:40] <TheCreationist> How do I add MP3 support to K3b?
[02:41] <LinkCanabico> what kind of router
[02:41] <tobias__> one with multple tp cables coming out of it and it connected to an adsl boks
[02:41] <HymnToLife> TheCreationist, there's a plugin for it
[02:41] <HymnToLife> (or there used to be)
[02:41] <HymnToLife> tobias__, then you need to redirect oprt 21 on your router
[02:41] <LinkCanabico> ok go into firefox and type http://home
[02:42] <tobias__> ahh
[02:43] <tobias__> unknown host
[02:43] <tobias__> I did it in konqueror tho
[02:43] <tobias__> does it matter?
[02:43] <LinkCanabico> do you know the brand of your router
[02:43] <LinkCanabico> no it dosent matter
[02:43] <tobias__> I can see
[02:43] <TheCreationist> HymnToLife: You know where I can find it... searching for it in Google doesn't appear to show any OFFICIAL plugins
[02:43] <HymnToLife> search for it in adept
[02:43] <HymnToLife> !find k3b
[02:43] <ubotu> Found: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp3
[02:44] <HymnToLife> there you go :p
[02:44] <tobias__> cayman 3300 series
[02:44] <LinkCanabico> tobias boss is calling give me 10 min
[02:44] <tobias__> its connected to an 8 port switch
[02:45] <tobias__> oki
[02:45] <jdunn> hello?
[02:45] <HymnToLife> !hi | jdunn
[02:45] <ubotu> jdunn: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:46] <jdunn> thanks.  is anyone here having problems with samba on Feisty?
[02:46] <ZaZaTux> #ubuntu-fr
[02:46] <HymnToLife> ZaZaTux, ne pas oublier de mettre /j avant :p
[02:46] <LinkCanabico> tobias hi
[02:47] <phyerboss> only samba issue im having is still not being able to play music or movies off 1 pc(which is windows) on this one
[02:47] <HymnToLife> jdunn, no, cause I'm using neither Samba nor Feisty
[02:47] <LinkCanabico> can you enter http://  >ip of the router>
[02:47] <HymnToLife> :)
[02:47] <jdunn> I can ping my windows machine
[02:48] <BluesKaj> HymnToLife: do yo have a network with windows pcs on it ?
[02:48] <jdunn> yes
[02:48] <HymnToLife> BluesKaj, yes
[02:49] <HymnToLife> though I'm trying to make the other ones switch to Linux :p
[02:49] <BluesKaj> what app do you use to connect up?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> FTP
[02:50] <HymnToLife> always
[02:50] <HymnToLife> much more reliable than samba
[02:50] <jdunn> LOL.  This probably isn't a good place to get answers.  The forums are no help either.  I guess I'm SOL.  Bye
[02:50] <BluesKaj> is it more difficult to set up for semi noobs
[02:50] <HymnToLife> maybe
[02:50] <LinkCanabico> tobias ???
[02:51] <octoberdan> In KDE, how do I set the default file manager from konq to dolphin? I just uninstalled one installed the other, but some one else is asking me for help and doesn't want to uninstal konq
[02:52] <BluesKaj> I was using samba successfully , but it's slow on wife's old windows pc
[02:53] <phratman> How do I turn off those annoying KDE sounds that go off when I maximize or minimize a window for example?
[02:53] <Jucato> octoberdan: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory
[02:53] <phratman> And, further, how would I turn them off with KIOSK Admin Tool?
[02:54] <Jucato> phratman: System Settings -> Notifications -> System Notifications -> from the dropdown list at the top, select Event Source: The KDE Window Manager
[02:54] <Jucato> (not sure how to do it with kiosktool)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> phratman: system settings/notifications/ sounds off
[02:55] <phratman> Jucato: Cool, that works and all, but what about in KIOSK Admin Tool?
[02:55] <Jucato> sorry no idea. try asking in #kde
[02:55] <phratman> Jucato: Okay, but as far as I know, the System Settings thing is a Kubuntu specific application right?
[02:56] <Jucato> phratman: yep. you can use kcontrol too
[02:56] <trotek> knetworkmanager icon still pops-up in the tray even though the "network status daemon" is disabled in the system services. any idea how to prevent the icon from appearing at KDE start?
[02:56] <Jucato> phratman: kcontrol -> sound & multimedia -> system notifications
[02:56] <Mena> What is the diffrence btw sys temp and aux temp and
[02:56] <Mena> ?
[02:58] <Mena> What are SYS Temp And AUX TEMP
[02:58] <joe2369> Mena: probably one of them is your mobo temp and the other is the northbridge temp or something.  Or maybe two mobo temps.  Depends on the motherboard.
[02:58] <joe2369> Mobo manufacturers can do any screwy thing they want.  And often times do.
[02:59] <Mena> joe2369, hmm ok the MoBo is Asus
[03:00] <joe2369> Asus makes decent boards, but that doesn't prove anything.
[03:01] <Mena> ok
[03:01] <joe2369> The important thing is that they are both motherboard temps of some kind.  And as long as they are both resonable, you should be ok.  And if either of them spikes, look to see if a fan died.
[03:01] <Mena> ok
[03:02] <Mena> Sys Temp:    +38C  (high =   +42C, hyst =  -103C)   ALARM
[03:02] <Mena> AUX Temp:  +42.0C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)
[03:02] <joe2369> Mena: those are your current temps?
[03:02] <Mena> yes
[03:02] <Mena> i got from terminal
[03:02] <joe2369> Mena: how many fans do you have in that box?
[03:03] <Mena> one for CPU and one on the cover
[03:03] <joe2369> Mena: do you have room to put in any more?
[03:03] <Mena> to get hot air out
[03:03] <Mena> yes
[03:03] <Mena> 2
[03:03] <Mena> svn 1
[03:03] <Mena> sorry 1
[03:03] <joe2369> Put more in.  The sys temp is in an alarm state.  My mobo is about 30C.
[03:04] <Mena> hm ok i didnt turn of the computer sence yasterday maybe its a reason but i better by aonther fan
[03:04] <Mena> buy*
[03:05] <joe2369> Leaving the computer on shouldn't be a problem.  The other thing to consider is replacing ribbon cables with round cables to improve air flow.
[03:05] <Mena> ok
[03:06] <dsmith_> Question: Anyone use the newer Western digital / Seagate 500-750 external harddrives?
[03:06] <joe2369> Also, there are some PSUs that have two fans.  One on the bottom that sucks heat up away from the CPU/mobo and another in the back that pushes it out.  Also, make sure the computer is not pushed back against a wall or anything that would block the outlet of hot air.
[03:06] <joe2369> You could get one of those PSUs in a pinch.
[03:07] <dsmith_> there is a great compnay out of California that does PSUs
[03:07] <dsmith_> whatsort of machine?
[03:07] <Mena> joe2369, ok
[03:07] <dsmith_> OEm?
[03:07] <joe2369> I believe it is some sort of computer.  But I could be wrong.
[03:07] <dsmith_> LOL
[03:07] <Mena> joe2369, i dont think i will find it here but i hope to ask
[03:08] <dsmith_> Mena: What brand PC?
[03:08] <Mena> dsmith_, Asus
[03:08] <Mena> dsmith_, intel
[03:08] <matrix> hi i screwed up my taskbar configuration. how can i get back to default settings?
[03:08] <dsmith_> Mena: Desktop?
[03:08] <dsmith_> Mena: or laptop
[03:08] <Mena> dsmith_desktop
[03:09] <joe2369> matrix: kde?
[03:09] <matrix> joe2369: yes
[03:09] <dsmith_> machine acting up?
[03:09] <joe2369> lol. this is kubuntu. nm
[03:09] <joe2369> matrix: usually you can just drag the bits of it back where they belong.
[03:09] <Mena> matrix, go here /home/$user$/.kde/share/config/
[03:09] <Mena> ohh never mind
[03:10] <Mena> its another thing
[03:10] <dsmith_> Question: Anyone use the newer Western digital / Seagate 500-750 external harddrives? Looking at buying one and would like to know if anyone here has used any
[03:10] <matrix> i don't even see the task bar where i could start applications from, had running applications etc.
[03:11] <joe2369> dsmith_: buy a chassis and a big disk and save yourself $200
[03:11] <smoke2k> so i updated
[03:11] <dsmith_> I can get 500gb for $140
[03:11] <dsmith_> :P
[03:11] <joe2369> matrix: try pressing the windows key to see if the menu pops up?
[03:11] <Mena> dsmith_, here this stuff are expensive
[03:11] <dsmith_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148235
[03:12] <dsmith_> 500gb $140
[03:12] <Mena> matrix, maybe you need to add the taskbar applet
[03:12] <matrix> joe2369: alt+f1 works
[03:12] <Mena> to your panel
[03:12] <matrix> Mena: let me see if i find the option you mean
[03:12] <joe2369> matrix: did that make your taskbar appear?
[03:12] <LinkCanabico> tobias have you solved it
[03:12] <Doctor_Nick> imma cut you
[03:13] <dsmith_> cut me?
[03:13] <Doctor_Nick> cut you a sweet demo tape
[03:13] <dsmith_> *whew*
[03:13] <Doctor_Nick> WITH A KNIFE!!!
[03:14] <dsmith_> I used to repair VCR movies like that, but I digress
[03:14] <joe2369> the poor man's video editor
[03:14] <matrix> Mena: adding applets brought the items i was missing back
[03:14] <matrix> thx a lot
[03:14] <stoft> dsmith_: and weren't the kiddies surprised when they got freddie cruger in the middle of bambi... :)
[03:15] <dsmith_> hahahahah
[03:15] <dsmith_> shhhh
[03:15] <joe2369> Mommy! Will thumper be ok?
[03:16] <Mena> joe2369, When i upgraded to fiesty the hddtemp sensor wont work or by other meaning the superkaramba dont display the temp of it
[03:16] <dsmith_> oh for all of you reading about the internet radio issue, you can install the recordradio script in amarok to rip at your pleasure while you can
[03:17] <Mena> do you think what that happned bec it was working on edgy
[03:17] <LinkCanabico> freddie likes rabit flesh
[03:17] <dsmith_> yes he does....
[03:17] <dsmith_> :P
[03:17] <dsmith_> Mwahhhhhh!
[03:18] <Mena> BluesKaj, hey hi :)
[03:19] <BluesKaj> hi Mena
[03:19] <Mena> joe2369, Thanks for help :)
[03:20] <Mena> Thanks....Bye
[03:21] <rr72> !rt2500
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt2500 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <rr72> my wireless isnt working and it was before feisty
[03:25] <phratman> Jucato: I could, but I need to set this up a default profile for multiple users.
[03:25] <rr72> where do i fix tab complete? sudo if<tab> doesnt do anything for me
[03:27] <rr72> why is my tab complete screwed up?
[03:27] <rr72> it doesnt tab complete apt packs or after sudo
[03:28] <dave> Does anyone know how I can make the taskbar on kicker only show windows that're on my current desktop?
[03:29] <rr72> dave right click
[03:29] <dave> rr72: and?
[03:29] <rr72> clcik configure panel and then taskbar
[03:29] <rr72> uncheck show from all desktops
[03:30] <dave> rr72: it doesn't have that option
[03:30] <rr72> i see it right here
[03:30] <rr72> right click on the kciker
[03:30] <rr72> configure panel
[03:31] <dave> rr72: what checkbox is it under?  am I retarded because I def don't see it
[03:31] <rr72> under taskbar
[03:31] <dave> rr72: I know, but that checkbox isn't there
[03:31] <rr72> do u have mmore than one dekstop enabled?
[03:32] <rr72> dave ask in #kde
[03:32] <dave> rr72: I will, thx
[03:34] <mythtv> anyone know how i would about finding out which serial port i have something plugged into (ttyS0 or ttyS1)?
[03:34] <jarn> Do I have to do anything on Windows when I want to share a folder?
[03:34] <jarn> I enabled filesharing from kcontrol and set up ~/music/ to be shared, but it doesn't appear on a Windows computer.
[03:34] <budluva_> im having problems with my broadcom 4318, does anyone even want to help me? or am i on my own with this topic? i have yet to get wireless working on this laptop since hoary, im using kubuntu 7.04 if anyone cares
[03:37] <rr72> why is my tab complete screwed up? i can't tab complete after sudo and pack names
[03:39] <mythtv> anyone know how i would about finding out which serial port i have something plugged into (ttyS0 or ttyS1)?
[03:39] <rr72> why is my tab complete screwed up? i can't tab complete after sudo and pack names
[03:39] <sdf> hi
[03:40] <Tired_> What options are available for an onscreen keyboard in Kubuntu or the repos?
[03:40] <sdf> when i write in terminal sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:40] <sdf> i had
[03:40] <sdf> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                              able
[03:40] <sdf> and
[03:40] <Tired_> were you running another apt-get somewhere?
[03:40] <sdf> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                              ess using it
[03:41] <sdf> no
[03:41] <sdf> i don t
[03:41] <Tired_> there's a bot trigger with the answer....
[03:41] <Tired_> lets see if its in my log
[03:41] <sdf> what do you mean?
[03:42] <Tired_> !lock
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Tired_> darn...it's not in my log  :/
[03:42] <sdf> i install ubuntu 7.04 and write sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:43] <sdf> and i have the last result
[03:43] <sdf> and unistall it
[03:43] <lontra_> sdf: maybe adept is running or synaptic or something like that?
[03:43] <sdf> and install kubuntu
[03:43] <sdf> no
[03:43] <sdf> i m sure
[03:43] <lontra_> sdf: go into a terminal and type 'top' and see
[03:43] <sdf> ok
[03:44] <Tired_> !adeptcrashfix
[03:44] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:44] <rr72> where does tab complete store the files? tabe complete doesnt work on after sudo if<tab> or sudo apt-get install nv<tab>
[03:45] <sdf> lontra: i saw
[03:45] <sdf> no program run exebt  konsole
[03:45] <sdf> konservation
[03:46] <sdf> the last result i had in kubuntu and ubuntu
[03:46] <sdf> and i could n t install g++ in ubuntu
[03:46] <sdf> so i unstall it
[03:47] <sdf> and when i install kubuntu and search for g++ package i
[03:47] <Tired_> did you try what ubotu suggested?
[03:47] <sdf> don t found it
[03:47] <sdf> what do i do?
[03:47] <Tired_> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:49] <sdf> tired  no result
[03:49] <sdf> tired i had no result for this command
[03:49] <Tired_> darn.  it worked for me with the same symptoms
[03:49] <sin18> when i boot into kubuntu 7.04 ... it opens up couple of applications everytime (e.g firefox, kopete) when the sessions initiates ... where can i make a change for it to have a fresh session
[03:49] <sdf> i work from kubuntu
[03:49] <sdf> now
[03:50] <sdf> kubuntu 6
[03:50] <Tired_> you'd think if another process is using /var/lib/dpkg/lock a reboot would clear it
[03:53] <sdf> what about g++
[03:53] <Tired_> g++?
[03:53] <sdf> the day before
[03:53] <sdf> i had it in adept package
[03:53] <sdf> and now i miss it
[03:53] <sdf> heheh
[03:53] <sdf> i don tknow why?
[03:53] <Tired_> oh, i'm not familiar with that package
[03:55] <Tired_> What options are available for an onscreen keyboard in Kubuntu or the repos?
[03:59] <Tired_> I looked in Adept under accessibility, but there's not much there.
[03:59] <smoke2k_> back to the coal mines for me it looks like
[03:59] <smoke2k_> ok folks
[03:59] <smoke2k_> are any tender hearted individuals alive in here
[03:59] <smoke2k_> one that can tell me why i cann't get wine
[03:59] <smoke2k_> because i need it
[03:59] <smoke2k_> sole reason i installed this
[04:00] <smoke2k_> i updated my apt get after putting the information and it gives me this
[04:00] <smoke2k_> well i guess my bro closed konsole
[04:00] <smoke2k_> gimme min.
[04:01] <tycho> smoke2k_: You've got the wine repos in /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[04:02] <smoke2k_> yea i put in all that stuff
[04:02] <smoke2k_> from winehq
[04:02] <smoke2k_> just put my other mouse on real quick
[04:02] <smoke2k_> sorry
[04:04] <kilrae> omg, beryl install on feisty was so beautiful
[04:04] <Tired_> certainly was easier than I expected
[04:05] <tycho> Beryl is very cool ;-)
[04:05] <tycho> It's nice that it doesn't take much hardware to run it either.
[04:05] <Tired_> agreed
[04:05] <kilrae> after all i went through to get it working on edgy i was dreading this
[04:05] <Dragnslcr> I still haven't figured out how to turn it on
[04:05] <smoke2k_> yea i am debating whether to put beryl on this
[04:05] <smoke2k_> i got it on my desktop
[04:05] <smoke2k_> i wish i didn't have soo many bills i owed
[04:05] <tycho> Put the Beryl repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and then sudo apt-get install beryl emerald
[04:06] <smoke2k_> i gotta hussle lil bit this month or something
[04:06] <smoke2k_> but as of now let me finish my question
[04:06] <Tired_> i think i need more memory to make things really shine
[04:06] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: I just installed beryl and beryl-manager with adept, ran beryl-manager and it Just Worked
[04:06] <kilrae> tycho: it's in universe
[04:06] <tycho> Oh is it?
[04:06] <tycho> Fancy ;-)
[04:06] <kilrae> yeah as of 7.04
[04:06] <tycho> I'm still on 6.10, so that's why.
[04:07] <smoke2k_> smoke2k@smoke2k-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[04:07] <smoke2k_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:07] <smoke2k_> Building dependency tree
[04:07] <smoke2k_> Reading state information... Done
[04:07] <smoke2k_> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:07] <smoke2k_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:07] <smoke2k_> is only available from another source
[04:07] <smoke2k_> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:07] <smoke2k_> i just put 7.04 on today and my mouse pad finally started working on this laptop
[04:07] <Tired_> Feisty is impressive...I've only found one showstopper problem for me, and I suspect that's actually a problem on the remote end.
[04:07] <smoke2k_> i was thrilled :)
[04:08] <tycho> smoke2k_: You're sure you have the wine repos in your sources.list? Try running sudo apt-get update and then installing again.
[04:08] <kilrae> i like this: The program 'svn' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install subversion
[04:09] <smoke2k_> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[04:09] <smoke2k_> i used the directions there
[04:09] <smoke2k_> ok
[04:09] <smoke2k_> phone call damn brb
[04:12] <smoke2k_> ok
[04:12] <smoke2k_> thanks kilrae
[04:12] <smoke2k_> nice
[04:12] <smoke2k_> lemme try
[04:12] <budluva_> can anyone suggest a good system monitor with weather?
[04:12] <kilrae> smoke2k_: ?
[04:12] <rr72> budluva_~ superkarmaba?
[04:13] <rr72> or check into gkrellm
[04:13] <Arwen> anyone here have problems with fglrx causing hard locks?
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> kilrae- I try running beryl-manager, and it looks like it tries to start for 30 seconds or so, then it just goes away
[04:13] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: edgy or feisty?
[04:13] <smoke2k_> wow if this works i might just end up spending rest of my life getting wifi to work because this box is going to be in prestine condition
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> Feisty
[04:14] <kilrae> no emerald icon in the systray?
[04:14] <smoke2k_> this is so well made and put together this driver problem its having is really unusual
[04:14] <budluva_> im trying superkaramba just wondering if there's a better one
[04:14] <kilrae> actually, it's more of a ruby than an emerald
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> kilrae- nope. I get the taskbar button for 30 seconds or so, then it disappears
[04:15] <smoke2k_> you know how you have to use your scroll thing on your mouse to make your screen flip around in beryl?
[04:15] <Arwen> smoke2k_, no you don't - you can hit "ctrl alt l/r"
[04:16] <smoke2k_> oh
[04:16] <smoke2k_> but i quite enjoy that function its very glamorous
[04:16] <Arwen> hehe, it's not fast enough on my system
[04:16] <smoke2k_> i showed it to this guy on other computer and he offered me 75k a year job
[04:16] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: it Just Worked for me on feisty, under edgy I used to get that problem starting beryl-manager from the K Menu, but it worked from Konsole or Run
[04:16] <smoke2k_> i am some hack that didn't graduate highschool and plays with computers all day
[04:16] <Arwen> lol
[04:16] <smoke2k_> :D
[04:17] <smoke2k_> but anyways back to issues at hand
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> kilrae- I'll try it from a shell
[04:17] <smoke2k_> its giving me same message
[04:17] <Arwen> smoke2k_, quickly, I wanna get some sleep
[04:17] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: i had to then right click on the beryl-manager icon in the tray and change the window manager from kwin to beryl
[04:17] <smoke2k_> it gave me that same error message so i ran update
[04:17] <smoke2k_> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:17] <smoke2k_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:17] <smoke2k_> W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[04:17] <smoke2k_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[04:17] <smoke2k_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:17] <smoke2k_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:18] <Arwen> don't spam
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> kilrae- hm, think it worked from the shell
[04:18] <Arwen> smoke2k_, you need to get the GPG keys - there's details on how to do that on medibuntu and wine's pages
[04:18] <ngtmagicks> anyone having issues installing the nvidia driver after upgrading to feisty that isn't listed on the forums?
[04:18] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: ah, good, you can join the no longer productive people :)
[04:18] <smoke2k_> yea i noticed that
[04:18] <Arwen> also, wine doesn't have a powerpc build afaik
[04:18] <smoke2k_> i just listed the gpg thing and gave another command after it
[04:19] <jdunn> help.  Looking for SAMBA help on Feisty
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> kilrae- is it supposed to flood the shell though?
[04:19] <smoke2k_> umm so will wine work on ppc because thats whole reason i changed os's
[04:19] <smoke2k_> i hate mac
[04:19] <smoke2k_> it not i
[04:19] <Arwen> smoke2k_, wine does not run on OS X
[04:19] <Arwen> or, actually, wine does not run on PowerPC
[04:20] <Arwen> or, actually, it might, but you'd have to compile it yourself
[04:20] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: not in my experience, no
[04:20] <Arwen> smoke2k_, hehe
[04:20] <rr72> why is mny rt2500 wifi card not working under feisty but it worked out of the box in edgy?
[04:20] <smoke2k_> i got a neighbor that is making his own live distro cds right now
[04:20] <jdunn> IRC is f*Cking useless
[04:20] <smoke2k_> he could compile it for me
[04:20] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: http://swik.net/Beryl+Feisty
[04:20] <smoke2k_> but man ...i don't want to ask him that
[04:21] <smoke2k_> this pisses me off any ideas here?
[04:21] <Arwen> smoke2k_, lol, but yeah, wine only officially runs on 32-bit x86 PCs
[04:21] <rr72> smoke2k_~ its not hard, just take an ubuntu cd and rip out stuff and add your own into it
[04:21] <Arwen> smoke2k_, you're kinda on your own
[04:21] <kilrae> Dragnslcr: it's a list of tutorials for beryl and different cards
[04:22] <Arwen> and now I go sleepy
[04:22] <kilrae> wow, people seem to love vista
[04:23] <rr72> !vista
[04:23] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[04:24] <sin18> wat controls the apps automatically starting when i login? i 've  browsed through systems settings but couldnt find it
[04:24] <bobstro> kilrae: we're still in "copy"
[04:24] <bobstro> mode but i suspect it won't be long before trying to look *different* will be the priority.
[04:25] <bobstro> sin18: when you log in at the command line, kde/gnome or both?
[04:25] <sin18> bobstro : kde
[04:26] <sin18> firefox , kopete automatically open up as if restoring my last session
[04:26] <sin18> im on kubuntu 7.04
[04:26] <bobstro> sin18: well, if you set it to remember what's running, session manager will re-start new sessions the same as when you last logged in.
[04:26] <bobstro> sin18: otherwise, you can put items in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:27] <bobstro> kilrae: well, i seriously doubt we've hit perfection yet! a ways to go still, methinks.
[04:28] <bobstro> sin18: there's a gui tool will do the autostart stuff but i can't think of it at the moment.
[04:28] <sin18> bobstro : i wanna diable that restore feature
[04:28] <smoke2k_> i followed directions on mediubuntu's page what do i do after that
[04:28] <bobstro> sin18: system settings->advanced->session manager
[04:28] <smoke2k_> don't i just type sudo apt-get install mediubuntu
[04:29] <sin18> thanx bobstro
[04:29] <bobstro> sin18: if you want to start things without session manager, kcontrol->KDE Components->Autostart Applications should work
[04:30] <smoke2k_> Arwen and rr72?
[04:30] <kilrae> bobstro: yeah, but min-max-close is pretty standard, windows does right, mac does left, circles squares and now rectangles are all done
[04:30] <smoke2k_> is this not supported or something
[04:30] <kilrae> i suppose the title bar can go along the side
[04:30] <rr72> smoke2k_~ what u want?
[04:30] <smoke2k_> to install medibuntu
[04:30] <bobstro> kilrae: yeah, but those didn't all always exist. hopefully, we'll move from mimicing to innovation.
 Arwen and rr72? why did u highlight me?
[04:31] <smoke2k_> and maybe pointed in direction of right people to discuss working on wine with
[04:31] <smoke2k_> you spoke to me so i spoke back to you
[04:31] <bobstro> kilrae: 'course now apple, microsoft and the various x flavors are all stealing from each other, so there's a general leveling.
[04:31] <kilrae> maybe we need a new mouse button
[04:31] <smoke2k_> everyone i meet in these linux channels are weird
[04:31] <bobstro> kilrae: a big pad to beat your head on
[04:32] <smoke2k_> they speak at you but not with you
[04:32] <bobstro> smoke2k_: it's like on a bus. hard to follow sometimes.
[04:32] <smoke2k_> I have heard that alot are diluted but only demand intelligence
[04:32] <smoke2k_> I don't know
[04:33] <bobstro> i have no idea what that means actually.
[04:33] <bobstro> i don't feel diluted.
[04:34] <bobstro> kilrae: the best thing would be near-instant power on and off. some sort of session persistence between machines wold be nice. i can think o f a few more features i'd like to see beyond eyecandy.
[04:36] <budluva_> kubuntu doesnt come with xvid support out of box does it
[04:36] <beer> does anyone have any issues using knetworkmanager?
[04:36] <beer> i can see my networks, however i cannot connect to them, it hangs @ 28 %
[04:36] <budluva_> i do
[04:36] <budluva_> it doesnt work with my wireless
[04:36] <budluva_> or my wireless doesnt work
[04:37] <budluva_> beer same problem here
[04:37] <beer> "configuring device"
[04:37] <beer> i can wifi radar or wireless assistant with no issues
[04:37] <rr72> my wifi support is crap, why did kbuuntu release feisty with so many kernel problems?
[04:37] <bobstro> i've got an ugly conflict between sysvinit and sysvinit-utils partway through and update of a fresh feisty install. the install went fine, but i did a dpkg --set-selections < oldpackagelist.txt and it was going ok until that happened. now i can't move forward. it complains a file installed by sysvinit can't be over-written by sysvinit-utils. any tips?
[04:37] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyway to export konversation settings?
[04:38] <bobstro> Doctor_Nick: to another machine running konversation, or what?
[04:39] <Doctor_Nick> bostro: im reformatting and reinstalling kubuntu
[04:39] <beer> come to think of it, network manager does not ask for my password, i wonder if it is not trying to run SUDO
[04:39] <bobstro> Doctor_Nick: have you backed up your $HOME?
[04:40] <Doctor_Nick> yeah
[04:40] <Doctor_Nick> not all the . folders, though
[04:40] <bobstro> Doctor_Nick: ah, the settings are under ~/.kde/share
[04:40] <rr72> Doctor_Nick~ all the . folders are config
[04:40] <bobstro> Doctor_Nick: i forgot that one myself recently.
[04:40] <rr72> Topic for #kde is KDE 3.5.6 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde !
[04:40] <bobstro> Doctor_Nick: you need ~/.kde/share/config/koversationrc i think
[04:43] <budluva_> will kubuntu ever adopt opensuse's menu system?
[04:43] <budluva_> i loooooovvveee opensuse's kde menu
[04:44] <ngtmagicks> budluva_: is it an add on from apps.kde.org
[04:44] <Jucato> budluva_: nope
[04:44] <Jucato> well at least, no plans for now.
[04:44] <budluva_> can i ask why?
[04:44] <budluva_> its beautiful
[04:45] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: interesting. what add-on?
[04:45] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: I was asking after the opensuse menu for kde  as if it's something personally one could add
[04:46] <Jucato> budluva_: for one, it's not the default KDE K Menu. two, whether it's beautiful or not is a bit subjective. three, Kubuntu is not SUSE :)
[04:46] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: wups, wrong name.
[04:46] <ngtmagicks> no worries
[04:46] <Jucato> there's a .deb in kde-apps for kickoff I think...
[04:47] <DaSkreech_> !kickoff
[04:47] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:47] <Jucato> it's not really an "add-on" technically. it completely replaces/overwrites kicker
[04:47] <smoke2k_> has anyone in here ever used polaris irc client
[04:47] <smoke2k_> I am looking for the thing closest to that on linux
[04:47] <bobstro> smoke2k_: sorry, don't know it.
[04:48] <lontra_> Jucato: there's talks about incorporating kickoff into kubuntu in gutsy i heard ... at least available
[04:49] <Jucato> haven't heard anything about that. there were talks of getting a properly packaged kickoff into the repos. but didn't push through
[04:49] <bobstro> smoke2k_: what's it got that you need?
[04:49] <Mantan> k guys, I need to upgrady from dapper to feisty. The DVD I made is really laggy and crashed twice when it tried to load. I have used the DVD to install feisty previously.
[04:50] <smoke2k_> well i need this thing to work on wifi first off but it doesn't support my air force 54g card
[04:50] <smoke2k_> then on top of that I HAVE TO USE WINE
[04:50] <bobstro> smoke2k_: i meant the irc client features you want.
[04:50] <smoke2k_> but as of now i would like something that looks ill like polaris
[04:50] <bobstro> smoke2k_: polaris
[04:50] <lontra_> smoke2k_: could you use ndiswrapper for wifi?
[04:51] <bobstro> smoke2k_: yes, what does polaris have that you want?
[04:51] <smoke2k_> I like the ones provided for you in polaris
[04:51] <bobstro> smoke2k_: the what ones?
[04:51] <smoke2k_> it is a all encompassing client
[04:51] <smoke2k_> I don't have time to list them all
[04:51] <smoke2k_> yes i have tried the infamous ndiswrapper
[04:51] <bobstro> smoke2k_: well if you can't be bothered... sorry!
[04:51] <lontra_> ndiswrapper works great here
[04:51] <smoke2k_> i have heard of bitchx and others for linux
[04:52] <smoke2k_> i thought irc originated from linux
[04:52] <lontra_> how about xchat or irssi
[04:52] <smoke2k_> i am kinda disappointed with konversation
[04:53] <rr72> smoke2k_~ then make your own
[04:53] <smoke2k_> yea i guess i will try xchat
[04:53] <Jucato> smoke2k_: why are you disappointed?
[04:53] <Jucato> (and IRC didn
[04:53] <Jucato> (and IRC didn't originate from linux, afaik)
[04:53] <smoke2k_> primarily that i cann't use my mac for xp programs
[04:53] <bobstro> smoke2k_: xchat is the big dog i guess. konversation is more integrated with kde.
[04:53] <smoke2k_> i thought this was a bad investment by my mom
[04:53] <bobstro> smoke2k_: irc predates linux by a LONG time.
[04:53] <smoke2k_> sorry i am so positive anyways
[04:53] <smoke2k_> my brother really just wanted garage band
[04:53] <beer|drunk> I hate to beat a dead horse, but does anyone have KNetworkManager working properly?
[04:54] <smoke2k_> hes on my myspace page you can check out his viacom whore site under clyde
[04:54] <smoke2k_> www.myspace.com/carygray
[04:54] <bobstro> heh
[04:54] <onin> hi
[04:54] <smoke2k_> :)
[04:54] <onin> anyone's filipino?
[04:54] <bobstro> some are yes
[04:54] <smoke2k_> my uncles wife
[04:54] <smoke2k_> sucki sucki two dollar suh
[04:54] <onin> ahhok
[04:55] <bobstro> smoke2k_: not cool dude
[04:55] <smoke2k_> i like to dress up as a phillopino whore
[04:55] <bobstro> smoke2k_: ok, you just wore out that welcome.
[04:55] <smoke2k_> thanks for the discipline
[04:55] <smoke2k_> do you want me to call you daddy
[04:55] <bobstro> i'm sure the world will let your brother know how they feel shortly.
[04:55] <smoke2k_> yea :)
[04:55] <Jucato> !language | smoke2k_
[04:55] <ubotu> smoke2k_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:56] <Mantan> guys: smoke2k is a troll someone kick him or something.
[04:56] <DaSkreech_> !coc | smoke2k_
[04:56] <ubotu> smoke2k_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:56] <bobstro> Jucato: er... that little bit didn't just qualify?
[04:56] <dthacker> ignore is cool
[04:56] <Jucato> bobstro: I'm a bit lenient.. waiting for another one :)
[04:57] <DaSkreech_> bobstro: Give him a chance to read
[04:57] <DaSkreech_> Some people forget their pills in the morning
[04:57] <bobstro> Jucato: i suppose the fact that i am his daddy will suffice.
[04:57] <smoke2k_> lol
[04:57] <smoke2k_> :)
[04:57] <smoke2k_> lamers
[04:57] <bobstro> smoke2k_: your brother does look a lot like me actually.
[04:57] <dthacker> any krita users in the house
[04:57] <smoke2k_> he is under clyde
[04:57] <smoke2k_> that is me
[04:57] <smoke2k_> i am val kilmer
[04:57] <bobstro> under?
[04:58] <smoke2k_> have you ever danced with the devil under the pale moon light?
[04:58] <dac_> got shisen game on apect, hoe do I get it instsalled
[04:58] <smoke2k_> he is on my friends
[04:58] <dac_> on this box
[04:58] <smoke2k_> i loved that movie val kilmer played batman
[04:58] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:58] <jarn> I was trying to set up samba to share my music on the network. It works from an internet browser but when you try to go there through Windows Explorer, it says that it is not accessible and it may be because you don't have permission. The network address was not found.
[04:59] <lettuce> I just tried to install xgl and beryl using the guide from beryl's wiki and it didn't work. Is there a guide for fiesty or at least a different one that has better instuctions?
[04:59] <Jucato> lettuce: try to see the links in the topic of #ubuntu-effects
[05:00] <ngtmagicks> sigh,  just crashed my desktop triing to install the nividia drivers.  if going back to a previous xorg.conf doesn't work.  anyone have any ideas?
[05:00] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg perhaps?
[05:01] <Jucato> "noncrashy beryl" = kwin_composite (Coming Soon in a KDE 4 near you)
[05:01] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: I'll try it
[05:01] <rr72> why does my wireless card not work in feisty but it did on edgy out of the box?
[05:01] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: i've been there myself. that usually gets it back to usable. keep backups whenever something works! :)
[05:01] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: I do, triing it now
[05:01] <ferger> my ntfs external drive doesnt auto mount
[05:01] <ferger> anyone else have thiss problem
[05:02] <dthacker> ferger: error mesages? logs?
[05:02] <ferger> nothing shows up at all
[05:02] <ferger> if i mount it manually and try to access it, it says access denied
[05:02] <Mantan> I am having probelms installing feisty.
[05:03] <dthacker> ferger: many times this is a DNS or routing problem.  Can you ping the target?
[05:03] <DaSkreech_> Oh btw everyone hit the fridge and vote :)
[05:03] <dthacker> DaSkreech: what are we voting for?
[05:04] <ferger> dthacker: sorry im noob, do i just type ping and then location of the drive...its usb?
[05:04] <DaSkreech_> dthacker: Which Buntu are you?
[05:04] <ngtmagicks> sigh, dkpg didn't work. no kdm, nothing
[05:05] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no luck at all?
[05:05] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: i just installed nvidia-glx and it all went smoothly.
[05:06] <dthacker> ferger: sorry, I read ntfs as NFS.  What version are you on, please?
[05:06] <ferger> feisty
[05:06] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: I'm now getting into the kdm.  triing both sign ons consol vs normal session and nothing
[05:08] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: wait, you got kdm up but can't log in then?
[05:09] <ferger> dthacker: i heard it might be a bug for feisty
[05:09] <dthacker> ferger: has it ever mounted sucessfully?
[05:09] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: it takes the log in, then goes to a blank screen, no freeze no prompts,  and atl f1 for a tty doesn't do anything
[05:09] <ferger> dthacker: yes before my friend told me to install ntfs-3g
[05:09] <ferger> dthacker: i removed it and it still doesnt do anything
[05:10] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: if kdm is working, your x setup is more-or-less ok. do you have another user account, or can you create another to verify it's not something in your kde setup?
[05:10] <dthacker> ferger: sorry, I haven't played with these.  I'd go to /var/logs and look for messages that might give you something to search on.
[05:10] <dany> My enter key is broken, and I want to remap it to something like F12. is that possible with 'input actions'?
[05:11] <ferger> dthacker: ok thanks
[05:11] <ngtmagicks> bobstro:  that's what I thought, but then I get a blank screen so no way to make a new user
[05:11] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: at kdm, do the ctrl-alt-f1 for console, then log in there and do it.
[05:11] <smoke2k_> wow didn't know you saw his name was clyde bobstro
[05:11] <smoke2k_> he does ?
[05:12] <wolferine> how do I install iscan?
[05:12] <smoke2k_> you should check out new videos i put on there for him
[05:12] <bobstro> smoke2k_: er, what?
[05:12] <ngtmagicks> bobstro:  thanks will try
[05:12] <dany> for some reason it doesn't seem to be working
[05:12] <dany> for some reason it doesn't seem to be working
[05:12] <dany> for some reason it doesn't seem to be working
[05:12] <dany> ks
[05:12] <dany> [13:11]  <-- dthacker has left this channel.
[05:12] <smoke2k_> they are great :)
[05:12] <smoke2k_> his jesus one is really funny
[05:12] <smoke2k_> the other one is always funny too everyone is always like did that guy die?
[05:12] <DaSkreech_> Jucato: ping
[05:12] <bobstro> smoke2k_: ahm... there's better stuff to be found on youtube. not going to check out anything i'm seeing there.
[05:13] <Jucato> DaSkreech_: pong... (and reading backlogs)
[05:13] <lettuce> where's "System -> Preferences -> Sessions" in kde?
[05:13] <smoke2k_> yea youtube is massive
[05:13] <Jucato> lettuce: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager
[05:13] <smoke2k_> everyone always comes and chills with us now that i paid for highspeed and watches youtube
[05:13] <DaSkreech_> !offtopic | smoke2k_
[05:13] <ubotu> smoke2k_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:13] <lettuce> thanks
[05:13] <smoke2k_> in my usual hangout spot on irc everyone always posts funny ones in topic
[05:13] <Mantan> I am having probelms installing feisty.
[05:13] <Jucato> smoke2k_: please take offtopic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:14] <smoke2k_> ok
[05:14] <wolferine> No candidate version found for iscan <-- i have this error when I do a aptitude install iscan
[05:14] <Jucato> !autostart | lettuce
[05:14] <ubotu> lettuce: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:14] <Jucato> lettuce: that could help too ^^^^
[05:14] <ngtmagicks> hmmm,
[05:15] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: just did that and got an sxerver error no desktop to bind to 0,0
[05:15] <Mantan> the DVD I'm using (which worked fine on my notebook) is lagging rly bad and last time it told me there were various errors relating to hdc
[05:15] <lettuce> I already installed 'kcontrol-autostart'. but how do I use it?
[05:16] <tin> wantan, at the boot menu, there is an option to test the DVD/CD for errors
[05:16] <tin> option number 4 or 5 IIRC
[05:16] <Mantan> k
[05:16] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: as another user?
[05:17] <bobstro> lettuce: if you run kcontrol, that option's there
[05:17] <Mantan> but why would it work good on the notebook but not the desktop? it isn't scratched at all
[05:17] <rr72> night all
[05:17] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: no on going into console
[05:17] <wolferine> No candidate version found for iscan <-- i have this error when I do a aptitude install iscan
[05:18] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: ctl-alt-f1 doesn't give you non-gui login?
[05:18] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: I wish.  nope gives me a blank screen
[05:18] <tin> Mantan: check it anyway. just because YOU can't see anything wrong doesn't mean it's not there
[05:18] <tin> especially with the data density of a DVD
[05:18] <tin> or the desktop drive is failing
[05:19] <bobstro> ngtmagicks: you could start in failsafe mode, create the user there perhaps?
[05:19] <ngtmagicks> bobstro: thanks for the suggestion.. I'll try
[05:19] <lettuce> i can't find kcontrol :( where is it?
[05:19] <bobstro> lettuce: just the kmenu->run and enter it there
[05:19] <bobstro> run command...
[05:20] <bobstro> lettuce: there may be a more official way, but that works for me
[05:20] <smoke2k_> is it possible to run a trojan on someones kubuntu?
[05:20] <bobstro> smoke2k_: see man trojan
[05:20] <smoke2k_> someone could have a trojan on my computer right now still?
[05:20] <lettuce> ok, thanks
[05:20] <bobstro> smoke2k_: yes, it could happen. not as likely to succeed in dong system-wide damage as in windows though.
[05:21] <smoke2k_> my computer had a trojan before where someone was taking control of it before
[05:21] <bobstro> smoke2k_: well, you can certainly have your kubuntu COMPROMISED if you're not cautious, esp. if you open up services willy-nilly to the world.
[05:21] <smoke2k_> my bandwith is heavily fluxuating but i really don't know anything about this new type of internet service
[05:22] <smoke2k_> well i went to delete this particular file that i moved over onto my usb harddrive and it was kept on my desktop so it could have been modified
[05:22] <DaSkreech_> smoke2k_: check your users to see if there is a new user
[05:22] <smoke2k_> how can i check my tcp ip traffic
[05:22] <bobstro> smoke2k_: wireshark is good
[05:23] <DaSkreech_> !wireshark
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <DaSkreech_> !info etheral
[05:23] <ubotu> Package etheral does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:23] <DaSkreech_> !info wireshark
[05:23] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[05:23] <bobstro> typo on ethereal
[05:26] <wolferine> how can I add iscan?
[05:26] <wolferine> or get xsane to work with my scanner properly?
[05:26] <O_man> .
[05:26] <Jucato> !scanner
[05:26] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:27] <Mantan> how do I upgrade to feisty just using adept or whatever, with reinstalling kubuntu? The instructions on the kubuntu site make no sense to me
[05:28] <Mantan> specific part I don't get is #4
[05:29] <Jucato> what's #4?
[05:29] <chemicalvamp> i need something free that will play windows games
[05:29] <bobstro> this sysvinit problem is killing me!
[05:29] <DaSkreech_> !upgrade
[05:29] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:29] <bobstro> sysvinit conflicting with sysvinit-utils!!!
[05:30] <bobstro> how do i force a package to install?
[05:30] <bobstro> not an apt-get option, is it?
[05:31] <wolferine> ubuntu doesnt use ./configure make make install does it?
[05:31] <wolferine> what is it, make ?
[05:31] <Jucato> wolferine: you make use of that if you're compiling from source. usually you don't need to in Kubuntu
[05:31] <Jucato> !compile  | wolferine
[05:31] <ubotu> wolferine: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:32] <wolferine> Jucato, I have to in this case
[05:32] <wolferine> so what do I do, make ?
[05:32] <Mantan> jucato: #4 would be the fourth instruction on the website announcement for uipgrading to fesity
[05:33] <imagine> wolferine: compiling is a three steps procedures, first you type ./configure once it is done you type make and once make is done you sudo make install
[05:33] <Jucato> wolferine: see that guide above. you need to have "build-essential" installed
[05:33] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: are you still installing that card game?
[05:33] <tri170391> I'm wondering if Fiesty can run well on an old PIII machine
[05:34] <tri170391> with just 128 MB RAM
[05:34] <tri170391> It's lower than the minimum reqs
[05:34] <bobstro> tri170391: i wouldn't expect much. there's something on the main page about a low-resource installation, but it's hardly going to be the same user experience!
[05:35] <bobstro> tri170391: there are certainly small distros well suited to that though.
[05:35] <tri170391> Yeah, Isee
[05:35] <bobstro> tri170391: you wanted a desktop or a server?
[05:35] <tri170391> just a desktop
[05:35] <bobstro> tri170391: check out something like damn small linux perhaps?
[05:35] <tri170391> I will try it
[05:35] <tri170391> thanks
[05:36] <chemicalvamp> bobstro no, i want a windows based MUD client
[05:36] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: i think there are native MUD clients. not my thing though.
[05:36] <chemicalvamp> yes there are
[05:36] <chemicalvamp> i ant a windows based mud client
[05:36] <bobstro> to run on linux?
[05:37] <bobstro> i'm not sure i'm understanding what you're after
[05:38] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: do you have an EXISTING windows client you want to run (e.g. under wine), or you just want to find a new one for windows and this question has nothing to do with kubuntu?
[05:38] <wolferine> how can I setup xsane to find my correct device, its looking at my webcam, instead of the scanner?
[05:38] <chemicalvamp> i need something to run a mud client from windows
[05:39] <iwakura> hi there ... i'm using kubunto -obviously- and im intrigued about memory usage
[05:39] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: so not under linux at all then?
[05:39] <iwakura> it read about 1 gb ... too much i think is it normal ?
[05:39] <bobstro> iwakura: too much? what do you mean?
[05:39] <iwakura> i mean that its using 1 gb....
[05:40] <chemicalvamp> im all linux, i just want to run this simple windows program
[05:40] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: so under linux or not?
[05:40] <iwakura> bobstro: i have dual boot with xp .. and with it i use at most 400 mb ...
[05:40] <bobstro> iwakura: likely a lot of that is cache for performance
[05:40] <chemicalvamp> im using gnomemud right now, but i prefer the one i used to use
[05:40] <chemicalvamp> yes i have linux
[05:41] <bobstro> chemicalvamp: so this IS wine then?
[05:41] <chemicalvamp> i tried getting it on adept, but i didnt see it.. and sudo apt-get wine says there is no package
[05:42] <Bromics> chemicalvamp, have u done 'sudo apt-get update' yet?
[05:42] <Shacker6363> Alright, just asked this same thing in #ubuntu:  Oy, I need a good Gnome vs KDE article, I just can't decide and don't want both.
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> yes
[05:42] <iwakura> bobstro: i havent used linux in a while ... i want to know if theres something worng or is it just that kubuntu needs all that ram
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> and i have universe/multi enabled
[05:42] <bobstro> Shacker6363: honestly, i'd try both and see what fits your personal wants best. there are pros and cons to each.
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> iwakura: what's the prob?
[05:42] <bobstro> iwakura: you're looking at output of "free" command?
[05:43] <iwakura> bobstro: yepp.. and i have mere 13 mb free
[05:43] <bobstro> Shacker6363: you could try a livecd of each and get a good idea there.
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> iwakura: the linux kernel uses as much ram as it can, and frees it up when apps need it
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> iwakura: so its always going to look like you're actually using more ram than you really are
[05:44] <bobstro> upstart has replaced sysvinit, right?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: yup
[05:45] <lettuce> The desktop entry file /home/lettuce/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager.desktop has no Type=... entry
[05:45] <iwakura> hitmanWilly: uhmm that makes more sense taht 1 gb just for running amarok and a few other things
[05:45] <lettuce> ^what can i do about that
[05:45] <Shacker6363> bobstro:  That's what I've been trying to do, but I currently have Gnome installed and just can't find the same number of resources for KDE/Kubuntu
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> iwakura: amarok is a memory hog, but that is a little excessive :)
[05:46] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: i've installed feisty just fine, but i must've asked it to install sysvinit when reading old package list in. now sysvinit and sysvinit-utils are conflicting AND insisting on removing upstart.
[05:46] <bobstro> Shacker6363: what sort of resources?
[05:46] <Shacker6363> bobstro:  All of the recommended programs are KDE based and I don't want to muck with KDE apps in Gnome and vice versa, but I don't know.  BTW, when I said resources I meant things like ubuntuforums.org and ubuntuguide.com
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: remove it via apt
[05:46] <Jucato> Shacker6363: ubuntuforums.org also caters to Kubuntu users. there's also http://www.kubuntuforums.net
[05:46] <lettuce> what can I do about this error: "The desktop entry file /home/lettuce/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager.desktop has no Type=... entry"
[05:46] <Mantan> I need to update kubuntu to feisty, but I don't know how to do it exactly being as the last instruction given on the kubuntu announcement page makes no sense to me.
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: then just reinstall upstart
[05:46] <Jucato> ubuntuguide *should* have KDE stuff too, afaik
[05:47] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: as in "apt-get remove sysvinit", right? no luck there.
[05:47] <iwakura> hitmanWilly: thats exactly what i thought --- if im running away from winxp to get better use of resources what i did installing kubuntu would be reaaly stupid ...
[05:47] <DaSkreech_> !upgrade | Mantan
[05:47] <ubotu> Mantan: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:47] <Jucato> iwakura: how are you determining that Amarok is using 1GB of RAM?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> iwakura: if you want a more acurate ram usage representation, try conky
[05:48] <iwakura> Jucato: of course not ... but since it the 'biggest' app running i blame it
[05:48] <Shacker6363> bobstro/Jucato: If you don't mind me asking, why did you decide upon KDE rather than Gnome?
[05:48] <tycho> iwakura: UNIX style kernels cache contents of the harddrive in ram, so the number you're really looking for is under the "buffers" column of the free command
[05:48] <Jucato> iwakura: Linux (no matter what distro) uses RAM differently from Windows
[05:49] <bobstro> Shacker6363: i found (personally) gnome smacked of the "freedom from choice" of apple.
[05:49] <tycho> iwakura: when a program accesses something on the harddrive, the kernel saves it to the ram, because in all probability it will need that info again
[05:49] <bobstro> Shacker6363: gradually, features i used were being "hidden" away. just grated on my personal style. gnome is GREAT for end-users though.
[05:49] <tycho> iwakura: try opening up your web browser, closing it, and opening it again, you'll notice the second time it opens considerably faster
[05:49] <Mantan> thx, I found my problem.
[05:50] <Mantan> I'm just gonna install via CD
[05:50] <iwakura> tycho: yeah i noticed taht
[05:50] <Mantan> wipe everything else
[05:50] <Jucato> iwakura: to put it simply: Linux uses up all your RAM. it first allocates space to running applications, then what's free of the RAM is given to disk cache. if more applicatons are going to need more RAM, Linux reduces disk cache to give it to the application
[05:50] <Jucato> !ram | iwakura
[05:50] <Mantan> 2 upgrades is too much for me to both with
[05:50] <ubotu> iwakura: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[05:50] <Shacker6363> bobstro: forgive my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by end-users
[05:51] <bobstro> Shacker6363: people that call me with problems when they can't figure things out. if you don't have a lot of expectations, it's FANTASTIC. i just came into it expecting certain things.
[05:51] <Jucato> Shacker6363: I initially chose KDE because, based on my "research" at that time, KDE exposes more options and configurations transparently and easily than GNOME (no GConf). and the power to configure and customize was my primary reason to use Linux in the first place
[05:51] <bobstro> Shacker6363: i'm saying i would rather SUPPORT gnome, but prefer to USE kde.
[05:51] <win2000> !rpm
[05:51] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:51] <iwakura> Jucato: thnx! ram for dummies ;)
[05:51] <win2000> !deb
[05:51] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:52] <Shacker6363> ahh
[05:52] <tony_> anyone know a way to sort the kde menu alphabetically?
[05:52] <win2000> !txt
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about txt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <win2000> !sort
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <win2000> !kde
[05:52] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:52] <win2000> !gnome
[05:52] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:52] <win2000> !emacs
[05:52] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[05:52] <win2000> !firefox
[05:52] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:52] <win2000> !gimp
[05:52] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:52] <bobstro> Shacker6363: both are absolutely excellent though, so for me, it's purely a subjective thing.
[05:52] <Jucato> !botabuse | win2000
[05:52] <ubotu> win2000: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:53] <DaSkreech_> !botabusse | win2000
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botabusse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Jucato> Shacker6363: also, I like blue :)
[05:53] <strabes> just ignore him
[05:53] <DaSkreech_> Jucato: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :)
[05:53] <bobstro> ahah, the REAL reason.
[05:53] <strabes> he was in here awhile ago
[05:53] <win2000> !bootabuse | DaSkreech
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <DaSkreech_> Jucato: I'm on Vista
[05:53] <win2000> !botabuse | DaSkreech
[05:53] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:53] <iwakura> thank to all and bye ! :)
[05:53] <Jucato> lol
[05:53] <Shacker6363> bobstro: lol, coincidentally, one of the reasons I downloaded Kubuntu was because I had completely themed my Gnome desktop to be blue
[05:53] <win2000> !botabuse | Jucato
[05:53] <ubotu> Jucato: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:54] <tycho> Haha.
[05:54] <Shacker6363> woops
[05:54] <bobstro> Shacker6363: that was actually part of it for me. so blasted FRUSTRATING to do minor things.
[05:54] <Shacker6363> that last one was for Jucato
[05:54] <tony_> i guess you guys know a lot of these convos are cached in google, right? so don't mention anything about "hot transvestite midget sex"
[05:55] <Jucato> at least I didn't have to kick him/it..
[05:55] <tycho> Or FBI guns bombs terrorists?
[05:55] <bobstro> tony_: not like the phones aren't monitored too.
[05:55] <bobstro> tony_: at least for citizens.
[05:55] <Jucato> hm...
[05:55] <Shacker6363> Oy, why can't all the good programs be natively developed for Gnome
[05:55] <Jucato> !offtopic
[05:55] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> Jucato: he saw you powering up and ran :)
[05:55] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: too late though. I already banned him
[05:55] <Jucato> :P
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:56] <tony_> i'm a he, just asking a question
[05:56] <kalorin_> ok guys
[05:56] <kalorin_> so I just hooked up a scanner for the first time
[05:57] <tony_> been searching google and found lots of cached kubuntu convos
[05:57] <kalorin_> it's about 5 years old so I'm guessing that (usb) something would support it
[05:57] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: it seems i have  sysvinit in my dpkg selections, and it insists on re-installing, thus over-writing upstart. is there an easy way to view/edit that queue that you know of?
[05:57] <tony_> kalorin_, good luck, i wish mine would work
[05:57] <Jucato> !scanner | kalorin_
[05:57] <ubotu> kalorin_: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:57] <Jucato> tried those? ^^^^
[05:57] <kalorin_> Jucato: mostly I'm wondering how to know if it even sees the device?
[05:57] <Jucato> hm...
[05:58] <kalorin_> it's a usb scanner
[05:58] <kalorin_> something in the /var/log/messages?
[05:58] <Jucato> try the command "lsusb"
[05:58] <kalorin_> Apr 29 23:59:11 zebra kernel: [17816781.884000]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7
[05:58] <kalorin_> Apr 29 23:59:11 zebra kernel: [17816782.088000]  usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[05:58] <Jucato> or plug it in, then "dmesg | tail" to see how the kernel responds
[05:58] <kalorin_> ok it found it
[05:58] <Jucato> good
[05:58] <lettuce> what can I do about this error: "The desktop entry file /home/lettuce/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager.desktop has no Type=... entry"
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: try dpkg --purge sysvinit
[05:59] <tony_> Jucato, i also tried it and it recognized my scanner. does that mean it's compatible?
[05:59] <Jucato> lettuce: the guys in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl might now better... or try again in a bit
[05:59] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: yeah, no luck.
[06:00] <Jucato> tony_: could be. not really sure. I would guess you still need a driver if it doesn
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: that should (hopefully) wipe it out plus any ref to it
[06:00] <Jucato> doesnt work out of the box
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> :(
[06:00] <Jucato> tony_: have you tried just running Kooka and see if it's automatically detected and setup?
[06:00] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: this isn't an upgrade issue, so much be related to my doing the "dpkg --set-selections" after the install.
[06:00] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: but now kde won't launch, so i'm stuck hard here.
[06:01] <kalorin_> Jucato: that's what I did and it didn't give me any devices to use to scan things
[06:01] <kalorin_> with kooka
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: probably, kinda out of my area here
[06:01] <kalorin_> thanks
[06:01] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: ok, thanks. i thought for sure those would've worked!
[06:01] <tony_> Jucato, brb, let me install it
[06:01] <Jucato> kalorin_: try the links the bot gave above. you might need to install something else. depending on your scanner
[06:02] <DaSkreech_> Jucato: bring back Juice
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: used slack for the longest time, kinda new to dpkg/apt
[06:02] <tony_> Jucato, it's already installed. tried it and it's only selecting my tvtuner card
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: same with upstart
[06:02] <LinkCanabico> tony try as root some scanners react that way
[06:03] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: this is a new one for me. never got stuck with apt before.
[06:03] <kalorin_> !primaxscan
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about primaxscan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <kalorin_> that's the package with the drivers
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: you probably did this already, but maybe apt-get install -f or dpkg --configure -a
[06:04] <kalorin_> tony_
[06:04] <Shacker6363> Alright, few more questions, why does it seem like noone uses KDE with beryl/compiz?
[06:04] <tony_> LinkCanabico, still, it's only giving me the option to select v4l:/dev/video0
[06:04] <kalorin_> that might be the issue, no drivers
[06:04] <Shacker6363> None of the tutorials, screenshots, etc I find are KDE, rather Gnome.
[06:04] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: did install -f, lemme try dpkg
[06:04] <tony_> i've installed almost anything to do with sane and the backends, guess it's not compatible
[06:05] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: ah, may have been a bogus repository causing conflicts. there may be hope!
[06:05] <LinkCanabico> tony there is a conf file were you have to uncoment a line let me see were
[06:06] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: repo must contain something that conflicts. my own damned fault.
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: are you using apt-build? that was giving me problems earlier
[06:06] <_Low_Key> Anyone here able to assist with KDevelop configuration?
[06:06] <bobstro> hitmanWilly: no, but had added a repo for wireless drivers.
[06:07] <tony_> LinkCanabico, i'd appreciate the help. i've been trying to get my scanner to work all day
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> bobstro: that may have been it
[06:09] <Shacker6363> Lastly, I am a big fan of these three Gnome themes: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/VistaBut?content=32227 , http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Neutronium?content=46153 , http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Neos?content=24229
[06:09] <Shacker6363> and would like KDE alternatives, but can't find anything on kde-look.org, any ideas?
[06:10] <LinkCanabico> tony this is a list of suported scanners im stil looking for the fil give me a min http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[06:11] <bobstro> Shacker6363: you like that dark look, eh?
[06:11] <wolferine> LinkCanabico, whats that about scanners?
[06:11] <bobstro> Shacker6363: i'd just get a basic decoration setup i like, then tweak colors
[06:11] <Shacker6363> bobstro: sometimes
[06:11] <_Low_Key> I am getting: "configure: error C++ compiler cannot create executables."
[06:12] <epimeth> soooo.... KFTPgrabber or Kasablanca?
[06:12] <LinkCanabico> wolferine tony has probs with a scanner
[06:12] <wolferine> whats the issue Tony?
[06:12] <epimeth> screenshots pull me to the former, name to the latter... what do you guys suggest / prefer?
[06:12] <surgy>  i just got call of duty, i am trying to install it, i am running kubuntu 7.04 feisty, using cedega. it installed through the first cd fine and when it asked for the second cd it says it cannot unmount the cd becuase cedega is using it. can anyone help?
[06:14] <surgy> anyone?
[06:14] <wolferine> tony_, ?
[06:14] <LinkCanabico> seams tony died
[06:15] <_Low_Key> I take it nobody here can help with KDevelop?
[06:15] <LinkCanabico> tony if you r alive the file that i mentiond is "/etc/sane.d/dll.conf"
[06:15] <Shacker6363> oy
[06:16] <LinkCanabico> Low_Key whats the problem
[06:16] <Shacker6363> I'll never be able to decide between KDE/Gnome.  Was beginning to like KDE, but would much rather just have a theme file I could download and apply.  (I'm lazy)
[06:16] <tony_> wolferine, yes, i have a canon 8400f i'm trying to get to work. any help would be appreciated.
[06:16] <lt> is there a log for when you open applications with kde, i.e. i just installed glade on my laptop with kde it opens fine, but on this pc, i acts like its going to open then it just dissapears
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> brb
[06:16] <DaSkreech_> !be | _Low_Key
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <DaSkreech_> !b-e | _Low_Key
[06:16] <ubotu> _Low_Key: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:16] <wolferine> tony_, what app are you using with it?
[06:17] <Stalk3r> ha ha, I'm connected. that's insane
[06:17] <_Low_Key> Getting error: "configure: error C++ compiler cannot create executables."
[06:18] <epimeth> soooo.... KFTPgrabber or Kasablanca?
[06:18] <epimeth> screenshots pull me to the former, name to the latter... what do you guys suggest / prefer?
[06:18] <tony_> wolferine, kooka
[06:18] <kilrae> grr, why won't my network settings stick
[06:18] <Stalk3r> I have an odd problem, running dapper, my computer suffered a power loss and when I rebooted, Firefox and Adept can't connect to the internet, even though Konqueror, Kopete and Konversation can, anyone know what I should try to correct this problem?
[06:18] <tony_> LinkCanabico, i opened the conf file. so what exactly would i have to uncomment?
[06:19] <wolferine> tony_, what is it saying about the device?
[06:19] <tony_> wolferine, lsusb tells me i have an 8400f but i start kooka and it's only giving me the option of using my tvtuner card ....v4l:/etc/video0 or something
[06:20] <lt> is there a logfile when programs just dont open with kde?
[06:20] <LinkCanabico> tony wait a sec pleas boss calling
[06:20] <tony_> ok, np
[06:20] <wolferine> tony_, I was having the same issue with my scanner, just viewing the webcam
[06:20] <Stalk3r> anyone?
[06:21] <_Low_Key> Sorry Stalk3r. I wish I could help.
[06:21] <wolferine> Stalk3r, reinstall the non-working apps
[06:21] <tony_> wolferine, yeah, same here. my webcam shows my channels
[06:21] <Stalk3r> wolferine: my package installer isn't connecting, either.
[06:21] <wolferine> tony, I had to manually start xsane, specifying the device
[06:21] <ejupin> anyone know how I can get a usb mic to work? shows up but doesnt work..
[06:21] <Stalk3r> I suppose I should try apt-get
[06:21] <wolferine> Stalk3r, you can use command line
[06:22] <tarelerulz> I used update program  the newest stable ubuntu and it been working for like 3 hours and  it says it is clean up the program ,but seem to load my system down
[06:22] <tarelerulz> IS that normal
[06:22] <wolferine> tony_, so what I did was use the sudo sane-find-scanner
[06:22] <wolferine> and that told me the location of the device
[06:22] <wolferine> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x082b [USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)] ) at libusb:002:006
[06:22] <wolferine> found USB scanner (vendor=0x046d, product=0x08f5 [Camera] ) at libusb:001:007
[06:23] <wolferine> so I did xsane libusb:002:006
[06:23] <wolferine> which opens xsane with taht device
[06:23] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: Did you read the page?
[06:23] <wolferine> then inside xsane, I was able to save the device, i then added that into my Kmenu to open xsane with it each time
[06:23] <tony_> scanimage -L
[06:23] <tony_> device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname BT878 video (Pinnacle PCTV Stud virtual device
[06:24] <tarelerulz> is there any way to tell if the program is still working . I the gui seem to freze up where if you opon something over it and it don't show that part of the program any more
[06:24] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_ working on it.
[06:24] <LinkCanabico> tony in my case it workt uncomenting #cannon_pp but try wolferine solution first
[06:24] <kalorin_> heh
[06:24] <Stalk3r> apt-get returns "already the newest version" and doesn't install anything
[06:24] <wolferine> tony_, so thats what I did
[06:24] <kalorin_> I think the sane drivers only work on parallel port scanners for primax
[06:24] <wolferine> Stalk3r, you need to remove, THEN install
[06:24] <_Low_Key> ok, which part are you wanting me to read specifically?
[06:24] <wolferine> well
[06:24] <wolferine> its a solution
[06:24] <Stalk3r> I guess I don't know how to remove anything.
[06:25] <LinkCanabico> kalorin_ thats not true
[06:25] <wolferine> use remove, instead of install
[06:25] <wolferine> yes, its that easy
[06:25] <wolferine> lol
[06:25] <Stalk3r> already figured that out, thanks
[06:25] <kalorin_> well it's seeing the scanner plugged in but kooka doesn't allow me to select a scanning device
[06:25] <kalorin_> I'm nto sure what else to think
[06:25] <kalorin_> my wife's windows box will scan with it
[06:25] <wolferine> kalorin_, lsusb, what kinda scanner
[06:26] <surgy> can someone help me please?
[06:26] <kalorin_> pr 30 00:08:42 zebra kernel: [17817353.208000]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 8
[06:26] <Sesshoumaru> help you with what
[06:26] <tony_> wolferine,  i did the same thing as you this time and got "failed to open device libusb:003:002...Invalid Argument"
[06:26] <kalorin_> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0451:2046 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2046 Hub
[06:26] <kalorin_> I'm assuming that's it
[06:26] <surgy> i cant seam to change to disk two of call to duty becuase it says wine is using the drive, and it asks me to kill wineserver before i try to unmount the drive again
[06:26] <Stalk3r> ok, now I can't install anything
[06:27] <Stalk3r> apt-get is trying to connect to 1.0.0.0
[06:27] <wolferine> tony_, did you find that from sudo sane-find-scanner
[06:27] <LinkCanabico> tony bad news there's no support for the 8400F under SANE
[06:27] <wolferine> Stalk3r, give me a min or two
[06:27] <wolferine> i might be able to help
[06:28] <wolferine> ah, thanks Link
[06:28] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_ - Im not trying to compile a package. Just trying to do some homework, gotta use an IDE.
[06:28] <tony_> wolferine, ok, thanks anyhow
[06:28] <wolferine> sorry, wish I could have helped
[06:28] <LinkCanabico> sorry
[06:28] <tony_> wolferine, yes
[06:28] <lt> can anyone tell me if there is a log file for applications that dont open with kde? im not getting a error, the app just doesnt start, it loads, but thats it
[06:28] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: do you have to compile ?
[06:28] <wolferine> tony_, try xsane instead?
[06:28] <tony_> wolferine, nm the other comment, i was scrolled wrong
[06:28] <wolferine> or iscan
[06:28] <Sesshoumaru> surgy: heh i had the same problem with half-life disks
[06:28] <wolferine> but doesnt sound good
[06:29] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_: yes, gotta do the whole thing including run it.
[06:29] <surgy> Sesshoumaru: but call of duty got 5 stars on playibility through wine
[06:29] <kalorin_> ok scan-find-scanner found it
[06:29] <surgy> Sesshoumaru: it has to be my configuration, or an os bug
[06:29] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: you are going to need to install build-essentials
[06:29] <kalorin_> or says that it did
[06:29] <_Low_Key> The class is oriented toward using Visual Studio, but its taught by a Mac user.
[06:29] <graff> viva alguem q fale portugues??
[06:29] <DaSkreech_> !br
[06:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:29] <wolferine> Stalk3r, back to you
[06:29] <Sesshoumaru> surgy: try to get virtual cd drives and mount them all at the same time
[06:29] <tony_> wolferine, sudo xsane-find-scanner is invalid argument
[06:29] <_Low_Key> I did that.
[06:30] <jtt> !portuguese >graff
[06:30] <wolferine> Stalk3r, so what happens on sudo aptitude update
[06:30] <kalorin_> if I do a scanimage -L on it, it says that it didn't find a scanner
[06:30] <wolferine> tony_, you need to install some xsane/sane packages for it
[06:30] <DaSkreech_> Woah
[06:30] <DaSkreech_> Seriously?
[06:30] <DaSkreech_> no kubuntu-br ?
[06:30] <surgy> Sesshoumaru: ummm, i dont want to make iso, i want to be able to eject a game disk and put in the second.
[06:30] <wolferine> if you look in the package manager for xsane-find-scannerit should come up
[06:31] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: and you are using Linux that's great :)
[06:31] <_Low_Key> Yeah. I gotta be difficult. I like using a working OS instead of a "working" IDE :)
[06:32] <Stalk3r> wolferine: it reads packages, builds dependency trees and initializes package states, then tries to connect to 3 different ubuntu archives at 1.0.0.0
[06:32] <crypto> :-( hey another noobie here, I just moved from my Vista to Kubuntu and I've had a hard time trying to get my wireless connection working, can anyone help me out?
[06:32] <Stalk3r> apt-get returns this error: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/ept/adept_2.0ubuntu2_i386.deb  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[06:32] <wolferine> Stalk3r, so it fails?
[06:32] <tony_> wolferine, yes, xsane is installed, i meant i got an invalid argument with sane-find-scanner
[06:32] <wolferine> hehe
[06:33] <Stalk3r> yes, it's failing, can't connect to 1.0.0.0
[06:33] <wolferine> tony_, well, thats not the correct argument :)
[06:33] <wolferine> Stalk3r, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[06:33] <bbeck_> Hello, I've installed beryl, and everything appears to be working alright, except that I have no window decorations, does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:33] <wolferine> !pastebin | Stalk3r
[06:33] <ubotu> Stalk3r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:33] <GuHHH> graff: yes
[06:34] <lt> crypto: does knetwork manager show your wifi card?
[06:34] <crypto> nope
[06:34] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: if I'm not mistaken you can get VS to work in linux
[06:34] <lt> crypto: what kinda of wifi card is it?
[06:34] <DaSkreech_> if not you can install mono
[06:34] <tony_> anyone recommend a good scanner that is linux-compatible?
[06:34] <crypto> Broadcom 1390
[06:35] <kalorin_> tony_ I have a colorado 19200 USB
[06:35] <kalorin_> and it's not working that I can tell
[06:35] <wolferine> tony_, mine is
[06:35] <Lynoure> tony_: very many are, there is a list on the xsane site... wait a min
[06:35] <_Low_Key> I'd rather not deal with the emulator. Its bad enough that I have a windows logo on my laptop....
[06:35] <wolferine> i just purchased it
[06:35] <kalorin_> it sort of says it detects it, but then gimp can't acquire from it
[06:35] <crypto> I tried the steps from the ubuntu forum for my card and it didnt work
[06:35] <LinkCanabico> canon n640p
[06:35] <kalorin_> and sane sort of half says it's there or not
[06:35] <tony_> i think mine is too new
[06:35] <wolferine> tony_, its an Epson CX5000
[06:35] <tony_> but it's very good and would hate to have to get another one
[06:35] <Lynoure> tony_: see http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl
[06:36] <GuHHH> graff: eu falo portugues, entra em: ubuntu-br
[06:36] <tony_> Lynoure, thanks, but as i feared, it says 'unsupported'
[06:36] <Stalk3r> wolferine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18324/
[06:36] <lt> crypto: can you link me what you were looking at/
[06:37] <Stalk3r> but it looks right to me.
[06:37] <LinkCanabico> wolferine is that a all in one printer scanner etc.
[06:37] <crypto> here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=broadcom
[06:37] <wolferine> LinkCanabico, yes
[06:37] <kalorin_> wolferine: any tips I can try
[06:37] <kalorin_> wolferine: basically everything I'm reading says it should wrk
[06:37] <wolferine> kalenedrael, im helping someone else atm, sorry, have to wait
[06:37] <kalorin_> salright
[06:37] <wolferine> sorry
[06:37] <wolferine> Stalk3r, its fine
[06:37] <Lynoure> tony_: Some scanners do not have specs available and use closed protocol of their own, so they are very hard to support.
[06:38] <wolferine> Stalk3r, so does it read, universe, multiverse, etc, next to 1.0.0.0 ?
[06:38] <wolferine> when you run the sudo aptitude update?
[06:38] <tony_> my model: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=canon&model=8400f&bus=usb&v=&p= ....so am i totally out of luck?
[06:38] <wolferine> so what sites does it appear to not access correctly?
[06:39] <Stalk3r> all of them
[06:39] <wolferine> tony_, check on the forums already?
[06:39] <Stalk3r> each site has the same IP of 1.0.0.0
[06:39] <wolferine> Stalk3r, do you have a router?
[06:39] <Stalk3r> yes
[06:39] <wolferine> Stalk3r, do this,
[06:39] <tony_> wolferine, no, you mean the sane forums? i'll check, thanks
[06:39] <lt> crypto: sec at work
[06:39] <wolferine> Stalk3r, power off your system, your router, and your modem
[06:39] <crypto> ok np, I'll wait
[06:39] <wolferine> Stalk3r, next, start up your modem, waiting for it to get online
[06:40] <wolferine> Stalk3r, next, power up the router, waiting, then your system
[06:40] <Stalk3r> then the router, then my system, right?
[06:40] <wolferine> that should hopefully get you online
[06:40] <Lynoure> tony_: pretty much if the sane site says it is unsupported, it truly is. So the best bet to get it working would be donating it to Sane backend team :\
[06:40] <Stalk3r> I'll try that
[06:40] <wolferine> tony_, the ubuntu forums
[06:40] <wolferine> later
[06:40] <Lynoure> tony_: or contacting the manufacturer and pressing them to release the specs
[06:41] <tony_> wolferine, will i get it back if i donated? lol
[06:41] <wolferine> :)
[06:41] <tarelerulz> How do you tell if synaptic crashed
[06:42] <kalorin_> I wonder if I need to reboot to have the kernel see the new scanner modules
[06:42] <kalorin_> or something such
[06:42] <Lynoure> tony_: if you meant that to me and not wolferine, ask them :)  I'm not involved with Sane, just a long term user.
[06:42] <wolferine> ok, kalorin_ whats the issue?
[06:42] <kalorin_> well I have a colorado 19200 usb scanner
[06:43] <wolferine> lsusb please
[06:43] <tony_> Lynoure, to anyone. i just bought it last month and not ready to give it up just yet. i'm a cheapass and i love my hardware ;)
[06:43] <kalorin_> if I do the sane-find-scanners deal, it finds it
[06:43] <wolferine> tony_, can you return it?
[06:43] <Lynoure> tony_: that's why I check for compability before buying...
[06:43] <kalorin_> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0461:0360 Primax Electronics, Ltd Colorado 19200 Scanner
[06:43] <kalorin_> there it is
[06:43] <wolferine> kalorin_, ok, and you are running what app?
[06:43] <wolferine> to scan
[06:44] <kalorin_> found USB scanner (vendor=0x0461 [Primax] , product=0x0360 [Colorado USB 19200] ) at libusb:001:009
[06:44] <kalorin_> I would be fine running _ANY_ app that would see the scanner at this point
[06:44] <kalorin_> gimp
[06:44] <kalorin_> kooka
[06:44] <kalorin_> whatever
[06:44] <wolferine> ok
[06:44] <kalorin_> none of them are seeing the device
[06:44] <wolferine> so xsane installed?
[06:44] <kalorin_> sure
[06:44] <kalorin_> well the package is
[06:44] <wolferine> k, open the package man. and install
[06:44] <lt> crypto: sorry about that, k at what point do things start straying for you with this doc?
[06:44] <wolferine> k
[06:44] <wolferine> now can you open xsane?
[06:45] <tony_> wolferine, i doubt it. it fell against the wall and has paint scratching on the top. but last month, i wasn't as big a linux user though
[06:45] <kalorin_> I don't have an xsane command
[06:45] <wolferine> and it sees a device?
[06:45] <kalorin_> I have xscanimage
[06:45] <kalorin_> but no xsane is found on my system
[06:45] <wolferine> tony_, if its Walmart they would take it :P
[06:45] <tony_> wolferine, no, newegg
[06:45] <crypto> well I have a Gateway,and somehow my card is listed as a Broadcom Dell 1390, so I followed the steps from the link and it didnt work
[06:45] <wolferine> kalorin_, can you install it then?
[06:45] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_: any suggestions?
[06:45] <kalorin_> the package shows installed
[06:45] <wolferine> or you want to use those others?
[06:45] <kalorin_> I think
[06:46] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: A) keep a windows partition handy
[06:46] <kalorin_> sorry second
[06:46] <lt> crypto: so no errors with the howto, it just didnt work after you were done, right?
[06:46] <kalorin_> installing now
[06:46] <crypto> right
[06:46] <kalorin_> common was not the package itself
[06:46] <wolferine> ah
[06:46] <DaSkreech_> b) look into getting VS installed on Linux You can join irc.gnome.org and hop into #mono
[06:46] <kalorin_> ok
[06:46] <DaSkreech_>  they would be the greatest help
[06:47] <kalorin_> I run it, it says no devices were found
[06:47] <crypto> I blacklisted the default driver and somehow it says that I have it as an alternative
[06:47] <Stalk3r> wolferine:  didn't work
[06:47] <kalorin_> I run it sudo and same same
[06:47] <Stalk3r> guess I should have mentioned that I'm not a DHCP client
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, oh
[06:47] <Tired_> I'm having a bit of culture shock trying to troubleshoot things.  Can anyone recommend some reading on how to find logs and info in Kubuntu?
[06:47] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: Oh Bookmark that room. largest friendly store of .NET knowledge you are likely to find
[06:47] <crypto> when I installed kubuntu the driver was listed but couldnt connect, so now I only have the ethernet showing n now wireless
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, well, I am a bit tired, im gonna have to pass
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, sorry, and gl
[06:47] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: and start reading up on mono docs
[06:47] <Stalk3r> thanks anyway
[06:48] <_Low_Key> what is mono?
[06:48] <kalorin_> so sane seems to see it if I'm root, xsane says it doesn't
[06:48] <kalorin_> would on earth would cause that?
[06:48] <lt> crypto: have you reboot since you did, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[06:48] <crypto> yeah
[06:48] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29
[06:49] <Tired_> I'm sorta used to MMC, and I'm feeling kinda lost now.
[06:49] <lt> crypto: when you do lsmod, do you see ndiswrapper in there?
[06:50] <crypto> yeah
[06:51] <lt> crypto: when you do, sudo iwlist scanning, do you see anything?
[06:51] <Tired_> For example, KTorrent recently started hard-locking my system, and I would kinda like to track down the why.
[06:51] <kalorin_> ok wolferine, how would I tell which device this should be then with Sane?
[06:51] <Tired_> But ideally, I'd like to learn how to do it when any program starts messing up.
[06:52] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_, thanks, but, I just want to get my homework done as quickly as possible. Im not a programmer at all. I just need the thing to work :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: install mono
[06:52] <DaSkreech_> should be enough for you to get away with it
[06:52] <crypto> what do I have to do? "sudo iwlist"?
[06:52] <_Low_Key> Does it do C++?
[06:52] <wolferine> kalorin_, its installed?
[06:52] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:53] <lt> crypto: "sudo iwlist scanning"
[06:53] <wolferine> kalorin_, can you start it up?
[06:53] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: sure does
[06:53] <kalorin_> and I was going to go look at the /etc/sane.d stuff
[06:53] <kalorin_> and see about finding a conf file for it
[06:53] <kalorin_> it says it can't find anything
[06:53] <wolferine> kalorin_, fire it up
[06:53] <wolferine> k
[06:53] <wolferine> do this then
[06:53] <kalorin_> as root or not
[06:53] <crypto> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[06:53] <crypto> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning
[06:53] <kalorin_> "not devices found"
[06:53] <wolferine> sudo sane-find-scanner
[06:53] <crypto> thats wat is says
[06:53] <kalorin_> k
[06:53] <wolferine> will give you the libusb
[06:53] <lt> crypto: k
[06:53] <kalorin_> found USB scanner
[06:53] <kalorin_> blah blah blah
[06:54] <wolferine> so do: xsane libusb:00*:00*
[06:54] <lt> crypto: when you do a "lspci" you should see your wifi card in there, what does it identify it as?
[06:54] <wolferine> when xsane starts up with that scanner, you want to save that setup in xsane
[06:54] <crypto>  Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PC
[06:54] <kalorin_> Failed to open device `libusb:001:009' invalid argument
[06:55] <wolferine> ugh
[06:55] <kalorin_> big red X
[06:55] <crypto> n I have a GAteway
[06:55] <wolferine> wait
[06:55] <lt> crypto: k
[06:55] <wolferine> i didnt something else
[06:55] <wolferine> did*
[06:55] <wolferine> one sec
[06:55] <kalorin_> in /etc/sane.d the hex code is in the genesys.conf file
[06:56] <kalorin_> but it doesn't list that colorado one for some reason
[06:56] <kalorin_> go figure
[06:56] <wolferine> kalorin_, whatsa your lsusb?
[06:56] <wolferine> just the one line
[06:57] <kalorin_> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0461:0360 Primax Electronics, Ltd Colorado 19200 Scanner
[06:58] <wolferine>  scanimage -L
[06:58] <wolferine> this should list your device
[06:58] <kalorin_> No scanners were identified.
[06:58] <wolferine> paste it here
[06:58] <wolferine> oh?
[06:58] <wolferine> really
[06:58] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:58] <kalorin_> that's what I was saying it's like 1/2 found
[06:58] <kalorin_> really odd
[06:59] <kalorin_> let me unplug it for a minute and plug it back in and see if it helps it any
[06:59] <wolferine> closed xsane?
[06:59] <kalorin_> y
[06:59] <wolferine> yeah, give it a restart, lets see what happens
[06:59] <kalorin_> ok it's restarted
[07:00] <kalorin_> same result
[07:00] <kalorin_> sane-find-scanner shows it
[07:00] <kalorin_> scanimage -L no
[07:00] <kalorin_> and I did see in /var/log/messages that it'd seen a USB device plugged in
[07:00] <kalorin_> with the right time stamp
[07:00] <wolferine> right
[07:01] <wolferine> its just scanimage inst recognizng it
[07:01] <wolferine> so you want to start there
[07:01] <wolferine> i have to hit the hay
[07:01] <wolferine> work tmr....
[07:01] <wolferine> gl
[07:01] <kalorin_> sure
[07:01] <kalorin_> thanks man
[07:07] <yuri_> question to any digikam users, did you find out if it is possible to batch edit IPTC info?
[07:08] <reldruh> hi. I just upgraded to feisty, did a clean install and everything. Usually getting DVD playback is no problem but I can't seem to get it working this time around. Whenever I try in kaffeine i get the error message: "No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)"
[07:09] <DaSkreech_> !dvd
[07:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:10] <kalorin_> and well ther eou go
[07:10] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_: any suggested additional packages?
[07:10] <kalorin_> install the windows drivers and off to the scanning races :A(
[07:11] <kalorin_> disappointing
[07:12] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: Umm. there was a sharpdevelop or monodevelop I think
[07:12] <_Low_Key> k
[07:14] <reldruh> DaSkreech_: I've actually been through that guide with no luck. That's how I usually get dvd playback installed. It isn't working on feisty for some reason
[07:14] <lt> crypto: still lookin just work keepin me busy
[07:14] <LinkCanabico> Hi anyone intrested in testing a opengl joystic program i have just finished coding it on fedora and would like to know if it works on kubuntu
[07:14] <DaSkreech_> reldruh: You got the medibuntu repos ?
[07:15] <crypto> np bro, thanks for looking, I'm still trying to see if I can do something
[07:20] <cabajgtr> How do I force ownership and permissions on a directory (ie always chmod 666, regardless of who creates files)?
[07:20] <mat1980> cabajgtr, use umask
[07:21] <DaSkreech_> or superbit it
[07:21] <dsmith_> so has anyone upgraded from edgy to fiesty successfully?
[07:22] <starz> oi
[07:22] <starz> so xmms + feisty = no volume control from xmms.... how can i fix this?????????
[07:24] <starz> o gawd
[07:24] <dug> Im trying to build my collection database in amarok off my windows hdd, i have it shared via samba, but amarok will not complete, it goes to 94% then just stops. I've looked in the amarok files, and see my songlists there, but it will not load them. Any ideas, or tutorials that i can follow. I've googled as much as I can, but cant find the right keywords, not to sure what tree i should bark up.
[07:25] <starz> that was stupid... just had to adjust in alsa plugin configure properties from pcm to master - the name of it changed across distros or something
[07:26] <cabajgtr> Mat, if i put umask at the top of a bash script, will it affect all file creation following?
[07:26] <cabajgtr> I think I get what it does, just not how it is applied
[07:28] <mat1980> cabajgtr, I guess it will affect all file created, not only the one created by your script
[07:29] <mat1980> cabajgtr, to set all files to 666 use umask 111 directory
[07:30] <cabajgtr> so it will assign to a directory? does it affect all users?
[07:30] <mat1980> maybe I could be misunderstood, it will change mask only to files that will created.
[07:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:30] <mat1980> yes, it will affect all users
[07:31] <lt> crypto: k sorry about that, long call ><.  To be honest I was hopin your wifi problem would have been like the uphill battle i had with mine
[07:31] <DaSkreech_> MilhousePunkRock: yo
[07:31] <lt> crypto: but when it comes to ndiswrapper im pretty clueless
[07:31] <cabajgtr> excellent, it seems to be working
[07:31] <cabajgtr> thanks
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Since upgrading to Feisty, my sound does not work anymore. Already did this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418360 No avail
[07:32] <lt> crypto: i was under the assumption that when you modprobe the ndiswrapper, it would start your wlan0 iface, which it didnt
[07:33] <mat1980> not at all! ;)
[07:33] <lt> crypto: makes you wonder if the ndiswrapper worked? or if it worked but there is some other step missing
[07:34] <lt> crypto: how many times did you have to run the, "sudo make uninstall"?
[07:34] <lt> crypto: did you just run it once?
[07:37] <crypto> I've done it a couple of times n this is what I get
[07:37] <crypto> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[07:41] <mat1980> crypto, do you run 'make uninstall' from the source directory of ndiswrapper?
[07:42] <Dodger73> hi all
[07:42] <SubOne> how do i find out which sound driver im using?
[07:43] <Dodger73> i've got trouble getting quicktime video to work in firefox on feisty
[07:44] <crypto> I dont know how  to
[07:45] <lt> crypto: can you link that doc again, had to shutdown my vncsession and i lost that link
[07:45] <GWillakers> Dodger: what have you tried
[07:45] <GWillakers> ?
[07:45] <Dodger73> reinstalling the mozilla-mplayer plugin :)
[07:45] <GWillakers> is it supposed to have quicktime support?
[07:45] <DaSkreech_> !quicktime | Dodger73
[07:45] <ubotu> Dodger73: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <crypto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=broadcom
[07:46] <Stalk3r> does anyone know why my apt-get tries to connect to IP 1.0.0.0 for all repositories?
[07:46] <Dodger73> i'll try that, thanks :)
[07:47] <kalorin_> what's the name of the cpu/memory graph thing that lives in your K menu?
[07:47] <kalorin_> anyone
[07:47] <lt> crypto: that `make uninstall`, has to be run where you extracted the ndiswrapper
[07:47] <DaSkreech_> Ksysguard ?
[07:48] <lt> crypto: i dont know if you saw that part right below it, where you have to run that until it says no files or directories found
[07:48] <Stalk3r> I mean it says 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[07:48] <crypto> yeah but I get the messages that I told u
[07:49] <lt> crypto: thats when i had to restart my vncserver so i didnt see the msg
[07:49] <kalorin_> DaSkreech_ yeah it's disappeared from the list of applets that I can put back on the menu
[07:49] <crypto> how do I do that?
[07:50] <lt> crypto: ah okkies
[07:50] <DaSkreech_> Not sure
[07:50] <lt> crypto: when you downloaded the ndiswrapper, the steps had you extract it
[07:51] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech, I got all that stuff installed. Is it a plugin, or a full interface?
[07:51] <lt> crypto: do this, `locate ndiswrapper-1.41`
[07:52] <crypto> "/home/crypto/ndiswrapper-1.41"
[07:53] <lt> crypto: okkies go to that dir in a terminal, and do the `sudo make uninstall` run that till it returns `no files or directories`
[07:53] <Stalk3r> I'm running Dapper, my eth0 is configured properly for a static IP and I'm using it to talk here with Konversation, I can run konqueror and browse anywhere I want, I can use Kopete to chat but I can't use apt-get, firefox and adept wouldn't connect to the internet, and I get that IP address error when I try and reinstall them with apt-get
[07:53] <crypto> NOTE: Not all installed files are removed, as different distributions install ndiswrapper files at different places.
[07:53] <crypto> Run uninstall as many times as necessary until no "removing" messages appear below.
[07:55] <lt> crypto: okkies just run the `sudo make uninstall`, till you dont see the "removing" after that note
[07:56] <lt> stalk3r: i had a issue like that, but it was because i had a 2 connections, do you have another interface besides eth0?
[07:56] <Stalk3r> no
[07:57] <lt> stalk3r: if you do `ifconfig`, you should just see eth0 and lo, right?
[07:57] <crypto> bro how many times I'm suppoes to do that? its still saying the same
[07:57] <Stalk3r> correct
[07:58] <lt> crypto: is it still saying 'removing' after that note you posted? or are you just getting that note?
[07:58] <crypto> I'm just getting that note
[07:59] <lt> crypto: okkies you dont have to run it anymore then
[07:59] <lt> crypto: try following that link you posted, after the `sudo make uninstall`
[07:59] <bumzo> hi good people of kubuntu
[08:00] <bumzo> now ... how do i format my external HDD ???
[08:00] <lt> crypto: also do a `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:00] <crypto> when? after I'm done?
[08:01] <lt> crypto: now will work
[08:01] <crypto> when do I type that?
[08:01] <crypto> after sudo make install?
[08:01] <lt> crypto: sure
[08:02] <lt> crypto: just need to remove the driver from the kernel before you insert it again
[08:02] <Stalk3r> hah!
[08:02] <Stalk3r> I fixed it
[08:02] <crypto> how do I do that>
[08:02] <crypto> *?
[08:02] <lt> stalk3r: wewts, what did you do?
[08:02] <Stalk3r> I removed my dsl router from my list of DNS servers and it's working fine.
[08:02] <lt> stalk3r: lol nice
[08:02] <Stalk3r> thanks, g'night
[08:03] <lt> crypto: just type in what i typed
[08:03] <crypto> I did
[08:03] <lt> crypto: `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:03] <Endler> Anyone running VirtualBox with an NVidia card?  VB works great under Kubuntu, but VB doesn't detect my 7600GS card, so I can only run a virtual windows machine at 800x600 with vanilla VGA driver.
[08:03] <lt> crypto: k then just keep followin the steps
[08:03] <kalorin_> endler: vmware
[08:04] <kalorin_> ok nighty
[08:04] <kalorin_> 2am, crazy
[08:04] <Endler> Why?   Does VB have known problems with NVidia cards, or something, because other than that, VB is running very smoothly and problem free.
[08:05] <lt> crypto: brb smoke break
[08:05] <bumzo> i need help here .... heloo
[08:05] <kalorin_> vmware just works, it's free
[08:05] <kalorin_> not sure about vb
[08:05] <Endler> And so is VirtualBox.
[08:06] <kalorin_> are you expecting to do FPS or something on it?
[08:07] <bumzo> how do i format a HDD
[08:07] <Endler> I'm not going anything super graphics intensive; I just want to get my full resolution.  My screen is 1600x1200, so a little 800x600 window kind of sucks.
[08:08] <crypto> lt: after I do: "sudo ndiswrapper -l" this is what I get:
[08:08] <crypto> bcmwl6 : driver installed
[08:08] <crypto>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[08:08] <kalorin_> endler, with vmware, i just set it to minimum size, run it, and use rdesktop to go to the machine and set htat desktop to whatever size i want
[08:08] <kalorin_> rdesktop if faster to update than the vmware server window
[08:09] <kalorin_> ok nighty
[08:10] <lt> crypto: thats fine for now since its using the bcmwl6 right now
[08:11] <Endler> OK, I think you can do that with VB too.   Seems a bit convoluted though, when you're actually on the same machine. :)
[08:11] <crypto> yeah but on the forum it says, "you should see a message that says driver present, hardware detected"
[08:12] <kalorin_> yeah kind of
[08:13] <crypto> I did a iwlist scanning and got the same
[08:13] <kalorin_> but you can set the rdesktop size to say 3200x1024 which is really nice with some of the lame windowz apps I have to use
[08:13] <lt> crypto: k
[08:13] <kalorin_> that break if you span monitors witht hem
[08:13] <kalorin_> this way it doesn't know it's spanning
[08:13] <kalorin_> :)
[08:13] <kalorin_> laters
[08:13] <lt> crypto: lets go back some steps, do the `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:14] <lt> crypto: then the `sudo make uninstall` till you just see the note msg
[08:14] <Endler> For remote sessions on actual remote machines, I'm used to using NX, which is amazingly fast, so I haven't been using any other remote clients/servers.
[08:14] <lt> crypto: after that do `sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist`
[08:15] <lt> endler: been thinkin about switchen to NX, since vnc and fieste gnome, has a nasty bug ><
[08:15] <crypto> wait I forgot the directory of ndiswrapper
[08:17] <Endler> It is unbelievable how fast NX is compared to others.  You almost feel like you're sitting in front of the machine if you have a decent Internet connection on both ends.
[08:17] <Endler> It couldn't be easier installing on Kubuntu, either.
[08:18] <dac_> ? how big is NX
[08:18] <Endler> Not very big.
[08:19] <dac_> downloadable from where?
[08:19] <Endler> It channels everything through SSH
[08:19] <lt> endler: was there a site you used for a install walk through you could link?
[08:20] <Endler> Just download the Linux client, node, and server packages from nomachines.com.
[08:20] <Endler> and install them in that order.
[08:20] <Endler> If you have gdebi installed.
[08:20] <crypto> Permission denied
[08:20] <Endler> It's just one click, two clicks, three clicks, and you're done.  :)
[08:20] <dac_> ok
[08:21] <Endler> On the server side.
[08:21] <Endler> On the client side you only need to install the client.
[08:21] <Endler> Make sure you have SSH working first though.
[08:22] <dac_> ok
[08:23] <flowingfire> Hi can anybody help me with printing?
[08:25] <flowingfire> Anybody around?
[08:25] <flowingfire> hmm...... /join ubuntu
[08:26] <lt> flowingfire: havent done much with printing, sorry
[08:27] <hitmanWilly> ok, back now, NFS troubles w/ the lappy
[08:27] <flowingfire> thanks anyway lt... :) you're the only one to have responded thus far. :)
[08:27] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: what's the problem?
[08:28] <flowingfire> Hi hitman willy
[08:28] <flowingfire> Umm.. Well, I printed a test page okay, but when I try to print from an application like Abiword
[08:28] <flowingfire> it doesn't print
[08:28] <flowingfire> I guess I don't know how to navigate this
[08:28] <lt> flowingfire: kicking it works well
[08:28] <flowingfire> lol 1t!
[08:29] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: is kde set up for the printer?
[08:29] <flowingfire> Yep.  I have my HP PSC 1600 printer set up as the default printer
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: you may need to set up your non-kde apps as well, ie thru gnome's print system
[08:30] <flowingfire> Hmm.... Like, log on as gnome and set up the printer there too?
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: if you have gnome, then yes
[08:31] <flowingfire> the KDE printers thing shows my printer with 3 pending jobs.. it's just not printing them. lol
[08:31] <flowingfire> It says state: stopped: job-stopped
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: hmm...can you restart the job?
[08:32] <flowingfire> I just clicked resume on one of them and it did nothing
[08:32] <flowingfire> But it'll print a test page!
[08:32] <hitmanWilly> well, clear them out right quick and try setting up in gnome as well
[08:32] <flowingfire> Ok...Thanks. :)  I'll come back as soon as I'm done w/ that. :)
[08:32] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: that's because the driver talks straight to the printer on that one
[08:33] <iga> why i can't install automatix2?
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> iga: that's a blessing in disguise...automatix breaks things
[08:34] <mcrandello> How can I make the following message go away: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfreeglut
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> iga: anything automatix does for you can be done safer thru other methods
[08:34] <mcrandello> I've installed every glut dev package in the repos
[08:35] <iga> hitmanWilly: what methods?
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> iga: well, what do you want specifically? flash? mp3? dvd?
[08:36] <iga> flash,mp3,dvd,skype.
[08:36] <iga> some programming toolz
[08:36] <iga> some programming tools
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> iga: ok, first install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, that takes care of mp3 and flash
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | iga
[08:37] <ubotu> iga: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:37] <Endler> flowingfire, You might want to try setting/configuring cups directly via it's web page interface (localhost:631).
[08:37] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello also install freeglut and freeglut-devel
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> !restricted | iga
[08:37] <ubotu> iga: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: freeglut3-dev et all are already installed
[08:38] <emonkey-p> ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good package too
[08:38] <hitmanWilly> iga: you can add skype through add/remove in the menu
[08:38] <iga> ok, thanx.  what about rar files?
[08:38] <LinkCanabico> are they linked corectly
[08:39] <hitmanWilly> iga: there's a couple progs to do it, unrar and unrar-free iirc
[08:39] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: I don't know how to determine that
[08:39] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: running ld -lfreeglut gives the same error
[08:40] <hitmanWilly> iga: plus i think ark does it natively
[08:40] <mcrandello> the configuration file is running "gcc -o conftest -g -O2    conftest.c -lfreeglut  -lSM -lICE" etc
[08:40] <LinkCanabico> sorry no more ideas can you tell me the context were i hapens
[08:41] <mcrandello> trying to run a configuration program for the program "makehuman"
[08:41] <zayb> does anybody know if this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#dvdplayback is up to date for feisty?
[08:41] <flowingfire> Ok... Gnome looks like it's set up to print as well as KDE already
[08:41] <LinkCanabico> sorry no idea gl
[08:42] <iga> hitmanWilly: now i've been watching for skype in add/remove but i dont see it
[08:42] <mcrandello> I figured it was a problem perhaps with the program since it was from CVS and sometimes you get wacky stuff
[08:42] <LinkCanabico> let me check on my box
[08:42] <mcrandello> but checking around the web ld should be able to find freeglut if it and its dev package are on there
[08:42] <mcrandello> at least I'm led to beleive
[08:43] <flowingfire> Okay... I just successfully printed.... Huh.... I didn't do anything in particular in gnome.... Ahh well, problem solved1
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> !skype | iga
[08:43] <ubotu> iga: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:43] <mcrandello> thanks for hte help btw LinkCanabico
[08:43] <B4C> anybody using conexant modems?
[08:43] <iga> ok thanx
[08:44] <LinkCanabico> ok now i have a cuestion. on kdevelop how do i kreate a tar file with the source makefile and configure?
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> iga: i know its a pita to get all of this individually, but ive seen automatix seriously bork some systems
[08:46] <WillLuongo> Hello, this might sound like a dumb question, but is there a way to start an application in a command prompt and have it stay open after the command prompt (or ssh) is closed?
[08:46] <flowingfire> Hmm... My printer printed two things I tried... Now it randomly decided to not work anymore.
[08:47] <iga> hitmanWilly: oh.. i see, thanx for helping me
[08:47] <hitmanWilly> iga: np :)
[08:48] <flowingfire> hitman Willy: I tried what u said, and I printed two things successfully.  But now it's doing the same thing as before for no good reason.
[08:48] <hitmanWilly> iga: just set up kubuntu on my lappy and had to set most of this up again
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> ok, bye all...sleep is calling me
[08:52] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: you mean after you create a project how to you make it into a tarball?
[08:52] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello yes exactly
[08:52] <mcrandello> from playing around with it it looks like it already has all the subdirs etc in the proper place so from the directory above the project...
[08:52] <mcrandello> tar -cxvf foo.tar.gz foo/
[08:53] <mcrandello> where foo is the project name
[08:53] <mcrandello> wait
[08:53] <mcrandello> tar -czvf
[08:53] <mcrandello> x is for Xtract z is for Zip, keep getting those two confused
[08:54] <LinkCanabico> yes but the makefiles of kadevelop have a problem if you copy them into another dir
[08:55] <zayb> is there something wrong with kaffeine in feisty that stops it from playing encrypted dvd's at all? I've tried the ubuntu guide, the guide at ubuntuguide.org and added the medibuntu repositories; still getting the same error message
[08:55] <mcrandello> they explicitly list the full path instead of relative?
[08:55] <LinkCanabico> yes its the full path
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> srcdir = /home/patrick/Code/opengl_svn/src
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> top_srcdir = /home/patrick/Code/opengl_svn
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> and i dont want to edit them by hand
[08:56] <mcrandello> what an unhelpful setting!
[08:57] <LinkCanabico> any idea?
[08:57] <mcrandello> there has to be something
[08:58] <LinkCanabico> it has an option build pakege but tere it has some files missing
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: There's always the project-wide text search-replace function :V
[09:05] <LinkCanabico> yes ist what im using but :-/
[09:09] <mcrandello> ah
[09:09] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: look in "Project->Project Options"
[09:10] <mcrandello> in the general category make sure it says relative
[09:10] <mcrandello> to project file
[09:10] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello about makehuman the CVS is broken
[09:11] <mcrandello> oh
[09:11] <mcrandello> should have figured as much, considering the release cycles
[09:12] <LinkCanabico> it alredy is on relative i will trie it the other way mabye the translator skrued up
[09:13] <mcrandello> I was actually hoping on an OS bug though for an easy workaround. That configure script scares the bejeesus out of me
[09:14] <mcrandello> guess I can rm all those symlinks I made then
[09:19] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello i found a way i cd to the hiest dir in the project and make dist
[09:20] <mcrandello> tidies everything up and creates a tarball right there?
[09:23] <LinkCanabico> yes it is wonderful
[09:25] <froud> After dist-upgrade edgy to fiesty my wireless adapter, that was working, is no longer. Anyone got any pointers on the problem?
[09:27] <mcrandello> froud this is a long shot but if you have a cheap laptop with an ATIIXP chipset and a 200m card you may have to get the video card set up before the wireless or usb will work right
[09:29] <froud> mcrandello: the pcmcia card worked on edgy, what changed
[09:29] <ericsson> Which codecs to I need to watch standard DVD's in Kaffeine?
[09:29] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: I'll have to take a look at kdevelop, if they get qt-jambi in the 4 release I'll probably try to re-learn java again
[09:30] <mcrandello> froud: is it even being detected?
[09:30] <iwakura> im back again :P
[09:30] <froud> mcrandello: yes it is
[09:30] <iwakura> im having trouble setting up i8k
[09:31] <iwakura> the fan is working nonstop ...
[09:31] <mcrandello> froud: from a konsole try "cat /proc/interrupts" and see if there's anything sharing the irq
[09:32] <mcrandello> from my own limited experience my wireless always has problems when sharing an irq and the other device isn't working
[09:32] <iwakura> i installed i8kutils and this is what i get when i try to run i8kbuttons, i8kctl or anything
[09:32] <mcrandello> or working *properly*
[09:32] <iwakura> cat: /proc/i8k: Fiel or directory doesn't exists
[09:34] <iwakura> what can i do ?
[09:35] <froud> mcrandello: sec just rebooting
[09:35] <iwakura> im using kubuntu 7.04
[09:37] <froud> mcrandello: it's on it's own interupt
[09:38] <mcrandello> :( I'm pretty much useless then
[09:39] <mcrandello> what kind of card, error message you getting?
[09:39] <froud> mcrandello: no worries, I will hack on. I see Wireless Lan assistant does see the card
[09:39] <froud> and the network
[09:40] <dac_> Iwakura, did you just recently install kubuntu 7.04?
[09:40] <Endler> I figured out my problem.  After you get a Windows virtual machine set up, there is an extra iso extra image you can mount to install extras in Windows to support higher resolutions. :)
[09:41] <iwakura> yepp
[09:41] <mcrandello> good luck froud. Thanks again for the help LinkCanabico. Gnight all
[09:41] <iwakura> dac_: i installed yesterday .. to be exact
[09:42] <dac_> ok, Iwonder if I could download same here?
[09:42] <iwakura> dac_: and installed i8kutils .... but i get that nonexisting file error ....
[09:43] <dac_> I'm not smart enough to help you :0
[09:44] <dac_> :)
[09:44] <dac_> got to get it right.
[09:44] <Sesshoumaru> anybody know virtual cdrom software
[09:45] <mat1980> hi, I have setted up the essid of wifi network to make my system connect to it at start up
[09:46] <mat1980> but now I can't view the graph of wifi power. How should I do to make it show again?
[09:47] <Sesshoumaru> network manager
[09:47] <Sesshoumaru> i don't know :P
[09:48] <mat1980> knetworkmanager applet is still running, but it has the icon of the cable network...
[09:49] <mat1980> and don't show me the wifi network available anymore...
[09:52] <blackflag> !kernel header
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <blackflag> Where Can I get the kernel-header for feisty?
[09:54] <mat1980> blackflag, with synaptic...
[09:55] <blackflag> yes, but there are no kernel headers
[09:58] <ardchoille> How often do I need to do 'sudo apt-get update'? Is that only for when the package lists change on the repo side? How often is that?
[09:58] <mat1980> blackflag, look for linux-headers. In my system they are already installed. I guess they are installed by default.
[09:59] <iwakura> i8k anyone ?
[09:59] <jussi01> !headers | blackflag
[09:59] <ubotu> blackflag: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:02] <morpheus> anybody any experience of setting up a kubuntu cluster?
[10:03] <mat1980> ubotu & blackflag, it could be better install linux-headers-geniric (if you use the generic kernel) so that it will kept uptodate. But it should already be installed.
[10:04] <blackflag> okay thanks! :) I have to install the llinux-headers
[10:04] <slooow> gosh
[10:04] <iwakura> how do i get i8k to work ?
[10:05] <slooow> the prepare partions part of the 7.04 installer is SOOOOO SLOOOOW
[10:05] <slooow> wtf does "scanning disks..." mean, anyway?
[10:05] <lupul> hi everybod. what can i do to stop an error in k3b? it always says that i  have to cut media descriptor in joliet tree
[10:06] <lupul> because filesystem names are too long
[10:06] <iwakura> !i8kutils|Iwakura
[10:06] <lupul> the edgy k3b was better
[10:07] <slooow> ... ubiquity is using 99% of my cpu
[10:08] <slooow> and the installer isn't doing anything
[10:08] <slooow> are there logs
[10:09] <detto> how can I give my user (not root) write access to a directory?
[10:09] <slooow> detto: chown your_user directory/; chmod u+w directory/
[10:10] <detto> thanks
[10:11] <slooow> the ubuntu installer scares teh shit out of me.  why is ntfsresize running in the background?!
[10:12] <mat1980> iwakura, modprobe i8k
[10:13] <iwakura> FATAL: Error inserting i8k (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko): No such device
[10:14] <mat1980> iwakura, did you do it with root priviledge? maybe "sudo modprobe i8k" works
[10:15] <iwakura> mat1980:  nop, exactly the same
[10:16] <iwakura> should i install kernel source before installing i8kutils?
[10:17] <iwakura> i installed using adept ...
[10:17] <mat1980> iwakura, no you don't need kernel sources
[10:17] <iwakura> then i dont know wtf i did wrong :(
[10:17] <mat1980> maybe, try "sudo update-modules" and then "sudo modprobe i8k"
[10:18] <iwakura> nop, i get the same FATAL error
[10:18] <iwakura> the readme says something about making the module and then use insmod with it .....
[10:18] <mat1980> iwakura, have you installed all kernel modules? maybe i8k is a restricted module
[10:19] <iwakura> but i dont know if should do that
[10:19] <iwakura> mm i dont .. know .. how do i do that o_O
[10:20] <gorgonzola> exit
[10:21] <mat1980> I have just installed i8kutils and they work fine after modprobe i8k. And I have compiled nothing
[10:21] <MementoMori> hi all
[10:21] <MementoMori> !beryl
[10:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:22] <mat1980> Did you installed kubunty with fresh install or have you updraded?
[10:22] <iwakura> fresh install..
[10:22] <mat1980> uhm... mine is a fresh install too...
[10:24] <mat1980> have you linux-restricted-modules installed? maybe that could resolve it.
[10:25] <iwakura> nop that i know of
[10:25] <mat1980> iwakyra, I don't understand what you mean... I'm not english...
[10:26] <iwakura> spanish ?
[10:26] <mat1980> italian
[10:26] <iwakura> hahaha well...
[10:26] <Filthpig> !.it
[10:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:26] <mat1980> is it funny?
[10:26] <iwakura> let me check if i have linux-restricted..installed
[10:26] <lupul> !cache
[10:27] <lupul> !flush
[10:27] <lupul> ! flush
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <iwakura> yeah its   funny .. yo speak italian, i speak spanish but we're talking in english ... ooo globalization .. :P
[10:27] <lupul> does anyone know a command to flush the cache?
[10:27] <mat1980> :)
[10:28] <iwakura> mat1980: yes! i have'em installed
[10:29] <mat1980> what's the output of "locate i8k"? finds something?
[10:29] <iwakura> mat1980: let me appear stupid here: should i have installed gkrellm-i8k BESIDES
[10:29] <iwakura> i8kutils?
[10:29] <mat1980> oh... I have installed it. Well... try.
[10:30] <iwakura> installing ...
[10:31] <iwakura> mm still same error
[10:31] <Filthpig> lupul, have you tried googling it?
[10:33] <mat1980> iwakura, my "locate i8k" output "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko" at first line. In your system?
[10:33] <iwakura> mat1980: noup
[10:34] <mat1980> noup, means nothing?
[10:34] <iwakura> i meant
[10:34] <iwakura> mat1980 sorry .. there it is ... my last line ...
[10:35] <iwakura> but 'i8k' is nowhere to be found
[10:35] <ardchoille> How often do I need to do 'sudo apt-get update'? Is that only for when the package lists change on the repo side? How often is that?
[10:35] <mat1980> well, give output of uname -a
[10:35] <MementoMori> in my system I cant find /etc/apt/preferences.... can I manually create it or there is something to do before........?
[10:36] <mat1980> ardchoille, I update once per week, I guess it is enough
[10:36] <ardchoille> mat1980: Ok, thank you
[10:37] <ardchoille> MementoMori: I don't have that either. What prefs are you looking for?
[10:37] <MementoMori> ardchoille: I need it to block beryl version
[10:37] <iwakura> Linux navi 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:37] <ardchoille> MementoMori: Ah, ok.
[10:38] <mat1980> iwakura, are you there? what is the output of uname -a?
[10:38] <iwakura> mat1980: Linux navi 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:38] <iwakura> there
[10:38] <mat1980> ehm... sorry...
[10:40] <iwakura> im getting sleepy ... :(
[10:40] <iwakura> freaking i8k ... :/
[10:40] <mat1980> iwakura, I'm sorry but I have no idea on what to do...
[10:41] <mat1980> I'm late... my girlfriend will hang me up when I will arrive to her...
[10:41] <iwakura> thank for your help anyways
[10:42] <mat1980> That's allright. :)
[10:42] <mat1980> Bye
[10:42] <iwakura> :) bye
[10:42] <eMaX> re
[10:42] <eMaX> anyone here has problems with vmware and pdflush?
[10:46] <ardchoille> I'm liking this. I'm glad I switched to Kubuntu.
[10:56] <FOAD> Hey, I'm trying to set up multimedia keys, but they only seem to work on one of my two screens (I use twinview).  Actually it's a little weirder: they work on the other screen, until I move my mouse cursor onto a window on that other screen.  Then they stop working there.  Help?
[11:02] <johnny__> sorry, LOL getting used to a new client.
[11:02] <johnny__> need help with a common issue (I am sure it is)
[11:03] <johnny__> MP3support in amarok
[11:03] <pag> johnny__, install libxine-extracodecs
[11:03] <johnny__> Thx
[11:06] <nirmal> how can i select my keyboard to a regional language
[11:08] <pag> nirmal, KMenu -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout  if that's what you mean.
[11:08] <ericsson> How can I watch my supernatural episodes in kaffeine player?
[11:08] <jussi01> !restricted | ericsson:
[11:08] <ubotu> ericsson:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <ericsson> jussi01: Been trying to get that medibutu to work, but it won't :/
[11:11] <_4strO> ericsson: what's wrong with medibuntu ?
[11:12] <ericsson> _4strO: I only seem to find the package for feisty, but not for edgy (which I'm running at the moment)
[11:13] <nenemambo> buenos das!!!
[11:13] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[11:13] <pag> ericsson, are you sure, that you have edgy's repo?
[11:14] <ericsson> pag, looks ok in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <ericsson> _4strO: Done that already, but didn't get anything new when updating
 i got the language support but how to select the desired keyboard layout
[11:16] <ericsson> !pastebin
[11:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:16] <pag> nirmal, try that path I gave you, it should have layout-settings
[11:16] <nirmal> ok lemme try
[11:17] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:17] <ericsson> _4strO: Take a look at what I got this time around: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18351/
[11:17] <_4strO> ericsson: close adept
[11:18] <ericsson> _4strO: doh! ;)
[11:19] <ericsson> _4strO: can't find that package..
[11:19] <_4strO> ericsson: ok now ?
[11:19] <_4strO> sorry was a feisty one ;)
[11:19] <ericsson> _4strO: Thoose are the ones I keep finding :)
[11:19] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:20] <ericsson> _4strO: Done that, but I'll give it a go again..
[11:20] <ericsson> _4strO: Already newest..
[11:21] <ericsson> It did work before I upgraded from edgy -> fiesty, it did work after the upgrade but now since I re-formatted and went back to edgy, then it doesn't work anymore..
[11:21] <sonoftheclayr> i have a slight changing volume button, up until today the volume controls would control the master volume, but now thye only control pcm. any ideas?
[11:23] <_4strO> ericsson: weird
[11:23] <sonoftheclayr> and yes, i have changed the global shortcuts in kmix
[11:24] <ericsson> _4strO: Yes, it is really weird..Everything looks as if it would work, but it doesn't. Can't play for instance divx encoded (workrelated), .avi or normal DVD's
[11:25] <ericsson> So, would my only solution be to upgrade to feisty again, or what? :)
[11:26] <Hamm_sand> hello?  is there anyhone there?
[11:27] <morpheus> !libmyodbc
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmyodbc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Hamm_sand> i cannot figure out why i can't write to my fat32 partition
[11:27] <Hamm_sand> i never had this problem with freespire
[11:28] <_4strO> ericsson: no, it have to work :)
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> i can read it, but i cannot save anything to it
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> in root or in my user
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> i tried changing permisisons but it is not working
[11:29] <ericsson> !ntfs3g
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: is it an automounted partition ?
[11:30] <ericsson> Hamm_sand: You most likely need ntfs-3g
[11:31] <_4strO> ericsson: not for fat32
[11:31] <ericsson> _4strO: true true, vfat should do it then..
[11:33] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | ericsson:
[11:33] <ubotu> ericsson:: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:33] <_4strO> ericsson: did you try to install mplayer ?
[11:34] <_4strO> or vlc
[11:34] <ericsson> _4strO: I tried VLC and Xine movie player, still no joy
[11:34] <ericsson> _4strO: I mean, the players work fine, but there is no picture or sound :)
[11:35] <Hamm_sand> i'm back sry about that
[11:36] <Hamm_sand> someone responded to me and then i couldn't talk back
[11:36] <pag> ericsson, do you have w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs installed?
[11:36] <Hamm_sand> Problem with writing to an auto-mounted   fat32 partition
[11:36] <just-this-time> !version
[11:36] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:37] <Hamm_sand> ne1 that can help me with that"?
[11:37] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: system settingd / advanced / disk and filesystem
[11:37] <Hamm_sand> ty
[11:37] <ericsson> pag: Is libxine-extracodes same as libxine1-ffmpeg? I got edgy on this machine right now..
[11:38] <just-this-time> I see new Knetworkmanager on systray by default on feisty ! koool!
[11:38] <pag> ericsson, afaik -extracodecs are meant mainy for dapper/edgy
[11:39] <ericsson> pag: Ok, I tried running -extracodecs but it refered to -ffmpeg instead
[11:39] <just-this-time> what about universe and mutliverse after upgrade frommm edgy to feisty
[11:39] <Hamm_sand> 4stro  i do not have those options, this is the new distro
[11:39] <ericsson> just-this-time: Tried that earlier, did make me much happier :)
[11:39] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: you have !
[11:40] <Hamm_sand>   =(
[11:40] <ericsson> I think I'll take the easy way out and simply upgrade to feisty again ;)
[11:40] <pag> ericsson, could you paste your sources.list to pastebin?
[11:40] <_4strO> hamm what dont you find ?
[11:40] <Hamm_sand> system settings
[11:40] <just-this-time> 3d effects on feisty ?
[11:40] <just-this-time> !effects
[11:40] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[11:40] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: your on feisty ?
[11:41] <sonoftheclayr> okay, let's try a different approach
[11:41] <Hamm_sand> under system i have Preferences and Administration
[11:41] <Hamm_sand> yes feisty
[11:41] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: in the K menu
[11:41] <sonoftheclayr> anyone know how i can change what sound (PCM, Master, etc.) that the volume keys on my keyboard control?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> K menu?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> i have no K menu
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> Applications, Places, System
[11:42] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: kde or gnome ?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> gnome
[11:42] <pag> sonoftheclayr, try rightclicking on kmix's icon in tray and select 'select master channel' it might be there
[11:42] <_4strO> ... you're on Kubuntu ... go to #ubuntu
[11:42] <ericsson> pag: It's @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18355/ now
[11:43] <Hamm_sand> im' sry
[11:43] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: sorry cant help you on gnome
[11:43] <sonoftheclayr> pag: no luck, i already tried to set the global shortcut keys, maybe alsa config files?
[11:43] <pag> ericsson, uncomment (remove #) lines 26 & 27
[11:44] <ericsson> pag: would adding backports help?
[11:44] <sonoftheclayr> pag: it's set to master which is what i want it to control but it only controls pcm
[11:45] <pag> sonoftheclayr, sorry, I'm out of ideas :-/
[11:45] <sonoftheclayr> pag: thanks anyway
[11:45] <ericsson> pag: still same thing after apt-update, apt-upgrade -> no sound, no picture :/
[11:45] <sonoftheclayr> i'll keep poking about
[11:46] <jlilly> so amarok, amarok-xine, k3d and kaffine want to update, but when I select "request update" via adept.. it says installing it will BREAK the system? Any thoughts?
[11:46] <ericsson> I think it's an evil bug in edgy that forces us to upgrade to feisty...ah...or is that the way Microsoft does things? ;)
[11:46] <pag> ericsson, have you uncommented those lines? And if you had, did you tire to install -extracodecs again?
[11:46] <pag> s/tire/try
[11:47] <ericsson> pag: I'll try to remove them and reinstall, then update, upgrade: sounds like a plan?
[11:47] <pag> ericsson, could work :)
[11:50] <ericsson> bah, still nothing...
[11:50] <sonoftheclayr> hmmm good enough i set alt+ctrl +up and +down to control the master channel and the actual volume buttons control pcm, i wouldn't mind it the other way around though
[11:50] <ericsson> so...upgrading to feisty again, I guess :)
[11:51] <pag> ericsson, wait a sec... I'll post working sources.list on pastebin
[11:52] <just-this-time> feisty is just anmore mature ubuntu
[11:53] <just-this-time> BTW where is beryl ? built-in?
[11:53] <xushi> hi all
[11:53] <jlilly> what would cause kmix not to list any mixers?
[11:54] <xushi> Can anyone provide me with the docs on how to save all my changes onto USB after using kubuntu ?
[11:54] <xushi> is it hard /?
[11:54] <jlilly> I'm trying to get my SoundMAX audio to work in Kubuntu
[11:54] <just-this-time> wow beryl is so smooth working out of hte box
[11:54] <jlilly> just-this-time: yea. its sexxy if you're gfx card is happy.
[11:54] <pag> ericsson, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18356/ try that one
[11:55] <jlilly> just-this-time: I've had some wonkiness when it doesn't start by default. almost as if it had disabled my default window manager.
[11:55] <just-this-time> jlilly: is it good to have it by default ? is nt it too early
[11:56] <jlilly> xushi: it shouldn't be. look up portable home folders
[11:56] <majnoon> stoft: you here ?
[11:56] <jlilly> just-this-time: its not on my computer by default, but for instance.. when I opened up kubuntu 5 min ago, I had no window decorators (titlebars and such)
[11:56] <xushi> jlilly : is it something already in kubuntu or will i have to install and configure many things ?
[11:56] <jlilly> just-this-time: I started beryl-manager and it works, though.
[11:57] <jlilly> xushi: I know Knoppix had it built in. As kubuntu isn't really used in a live-cd environment, I don't think it will be AS easy, but should be fairly easy in itself.
[11:57] <just-this-time> what are other cool effects besides cube and peeping behind window in beryl ?
[11:57] <xushi> =/
[11:58] <jlilly> just-this-time: wiggly windows, water effects...
[11:58] <jlilly> my favorite is when you close (or in my case minimize) a window, it looks like it burnt.
[11:59] <majnoon> i some how goofed up my upgrade bigtime
[11:59] <jlilly> xushi: What do you want to save to your USB stick?
[11:59] <majnoon> TRYING dpkg --configure -a see if that works
[11:59] <stoft> majnoon: ?
[11:59] <jlilly> majnoon: Howso?
[11:59] <ericsson> pag: It's running through the updates now..
[12:00] <majnoon> stuck without x and it no see my other hard drives for one thing
[12:00] <jlilly> xushi: if you ALWAYS plan on having your USB stick with you, you could make your home folder a symbolic link to a usb device..
[12:00] <jlilly> dunno how well that would work though. I've never done it.
[12:01] <xushi> could do, but there are also settings in /etc , etc...
[12:01] <jlilly> true...
[12:01] <jlilly> hrm.
[12:01] <pag> ericsson, goog.. afterwards you should probably try to install -extracodecs and w32codecs (just type sudo apt-get install, it'll let you know, if you really have those installed)
[12:01] <jlilly> It wouldn't be hard to get all of your settings backed up onto the usb drive, but getting them back off on each run would be difficult.
[12:01] <pag> s/goog/good
[12:01] <majnoon> TRYING dpkg --configure -a see if that works
[12:02] <ericsson> pag: probably a good bet since I removed all codes e.t.c before running through the updates; trying to get fresh packages now..
[12:03] <pag> ericsson, good luck :)
[12:03] <ericsson> pag: Yeah, I'll probably need it, thank's a million for the help mate..
[12:04] <majnoon> stoft: look at bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[12:04] <majnoon> that the START of the trouble
[12:04] <stoft> jlilly: xushi: how many writes can you do on a usbstick? if they are limited I would probably stay away from using it as /home regularly
[12:05] <stoft> majnoon: looking now
[12:05] <xushi> i just want it to load all the diffs from the usb stick, and when i shutdown, it writes them there
[12:05] <xushi> when i boot, it loads all the diffs again
[12:05] <stoft> majnoon: ouch.
[12:06] <majnoon> then working on trying to fix the goof up
[12:06] <jlilly> stoft: true. I know knoppix did a lot of it for home folder information.
[12:06] <majnoon> got 6.06 LTS disk here if nec
[12:07] <jlilly> stoft: and I want to say that the number of writes are in the 300,000 range, but I might be off by an order of magnitude
[12:07] <zeroXten> lo all
[12:08] <jlilly> hi.
[12:08] <stoft> majnoon: I have no idea what the status of your system is, but I would probably try the manual upgrade and see if that might not fix things. I hope you have backups...
[12:08] <jlilly> what would cause kmix not to list any mixers? I'm trying to get my SoundMAX onboard audio device to work in Kubuntu
[12:08] <zeroXten> how do I run something like '/usr/bin/myapp --help' in a terminal, from the kde menu? If I don't supply --noclose the terminal disappears as soon as the app has finished, but with --noclose it doesn't go back to the prompt =(
[12:09] <ericsson> pag: still didn't work after that, I've had enough now, I'm jumping on the feisty train again, and hopefully it will work then..
[12:09] <stoft> jlilly: 300k doesn't sound insufficient :) that's >800 writes per day with a 1 year lifespan.
[12:09] <jlilly> stoft: I bought a 4gb usb stick for $70. I'd be satifisfied with 300k writes.
[12:09] <pag> ericsson, quite strage, that those don't work. In what format are you trying to watch videos?
[12:10] <majnoon> going to try a reboot
[12:10] <stoft> jlilly: and in a year that stick is going to cost you maybe half? a third? then you can upgrade to double size...
[12:11] <ericsson> pag: tried divx encoded, normal .mpeg, .avi even (shrugs) windows files, still nothing..
[12:11] <jlilly> stoft: as if I even need to. I don't use a third of the stick as it is.
[12:11] <stoft> xushi: not sure how to go about it, not quite in the know, but with udev configuration and a startup/shutdown script you might be able to accomplish what you want.
[12:11] <jlilly> I just bought it to increase my epeen
[12:12] <ericsson> pag: the players (kaffeine, xine movie player, mplayer e.t.c) all of them seem to jitter on the files, i.e the time bar jumps faster than it should, but I guess it's some thing wrong in the xine engine..
[12:12] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i make a dvd-movie of a mpg i have ?
[12:12] <stoft> jlilly: me neither, I use my usbstick about once a month.
[12:12] <pag> ericsson, strange... very strange. Sorry I couldn't help :-/
[12:12] <stoft> ericsson: have you tried vlc?
[12:13] <xushi> stoft : hmm, this is too difficult.. I mean to me ubuntu/kubuntu seem to be for the newbies who want to try or move to linux, and this is an important feature. To go through all that just to set it up to me defies the purpose of having (k)ubuntu
[12:13] <ericsson> pag: No worries mate, you helped me realising how much I don't like codecs ;)
[12:13] <ericsson> stoft: Yes, got that one as well, still nothing..
[12:13] <zeroXten> rah
[12:13] <jlilly> xushi: why do you say that? Why exactly do you want to backup all of your settings?
[12:13] <jlilly> Is it for portability?
[12:13] <jlilly> or is it for archival purposes?
[12:15] <jlilly> if you're trying to archive your drive, just: sudo tar -cf fullbackup.tar /
[12:15] <jlilly> if you want portability, build a live-cd of Knoppix
[12:15] <stoft> ericsson: afaik vlc doesn't use the same codecs as mplayer/xine. didn't catch the beginning of the convo so not sure what your problem is, but that would indicate some other problem and not a codec problem
[12:15] <don> what is Knoppix?
[12:16] <stoft> xushi: what is it you want backup, and what is the volume?
[12:16] <jlilly> Knoppix is a debian-based live-cd environment. It comes with open office and such. Doesn't install anything on your HDD, just runs straight from the CD
[12:16] <don> ok
[12:17] <jlilly> Created by a german professor who put it in machines with no HDD so kids wouldn't break stuff.
[12:17] <don> were can I get it?
[12:17] <jlilly> www.knoppix.com -- I think.
[12:17] <don> thanks
[12:17] <PhinnFort> knopper.net
[12:17] <ericsson> stoft: It's ok, I started updating edgy -> feisty again, hopefully that will take care of the problem..
[12:17] <PhinnFort> that's the engineers site
[12:17] <jlilly> knoppix.org
[12:18] <jlilly> .. or that.
[12:19] <_3fg> so in order to quickly install KDE I should go into Synaptic and install kdelibs?
[12:19] <_3fg> I have GNOME right now, but I want to try KDE
[12:19] <sonoftheclayr> _3fg: kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <_3fg> ok
[12:19] <majnoon> ok got x to work
[12:20] <jlilly> anyway, gonna reboot to see if I can fix this stupid sound issue. (ie. the only reason I'm not using kubuntu exclusively)
[12:20] <don> I am at konoppix but i dont know how to download files
[12:20] <_3fg> is there any way to make my laptop's touchpad not click every time I touch it?
[12:21] <majnoon> stoft, i think mdadm may be causing trouble (but not sure)
[12:21] <stoft> majnoon: congrats :)
[12:21] <stoft> k, not sure what that is...
[12:21] <xushi> argh.. casper-cow doesn't work with 7.0.4
[12:22] <majnoon> raid something me think (no raid drives)
[12:22] <zeroXten> how do I run something like '/usr/bin/myapp --help' in a terminal, from the kde menu? If I don't supply --noclose the terminal disappears as soon as the app has finished, but with --noclose it doesn't go back to the prompt =(
[12:22] <Lynoure> _3fg: there is, but I cannot remember the steps. Maybe: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[12:22] <_3fg> thanks
[12:26] <stoft> zeroXten: try clicking "options" and chosing "run in terminal window". not sure if that's what you're looking for though.
[12:27] <stoft> out for lunch, later
[12:32] <_3fg> what's the difference between gdm and kdm?
[12:33] <majnoon> stoft it looks like they reading drives as scsii
[12:33] <jlilly> grrr. still not working :(
[12:34] <A_A> ive been trying to install graphics card drivers for last 3 hours
[12:34] <A_A> i keep getting
[12:34] <A_A> ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
[12:34] <A_A>        Please install your distribution's libc development package.
[12:35] <A_A> im using kubuntu
[12:35] <A_A> i thought i had installed the header files but obviously not
[12:35] <mez_> After just rebooting Feisty, X Color depth seems way low. Any idea why? What to check?
[12:37] <payam> I have a guestion
[12:37] <payam> Halooooooooooooooooooo
[12:37] <payam> anybody there?
[12:37] <A_A> ask your question and someone will eventually get back to you
[12:38] <gholm> can anyone tell me why I can see my SATA drive in Edgy but not in Feisty?
[12:38] <payam> I have downloaded IE7from Microsoft and i have wine on my kubuntu how can i unrar this fucking RAR file?
[12:38] <payam> not from microsoft
[12:38] <payam> from Rapidshare
[12:38] <A_A> um
[12:38] <PriceChild> payam, watch your language please :)
[12:38] <A_A> y would u want IE in linux ?
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !unrar | payam
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:38] <PriceChild> !info unrar | payam
[12:38] <payam> ok
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !language | payam
[12:38] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:39] <payam> ok
[12:39] <payam> I 'll try
[12:39] <gholm> is there anyway to see what driver I'm using to read my SATA drive in Edgy?  I need to know which drive to modprob in Feisty
[12:40] <payam> "kubuntu-se
[12:40] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[12:40] <_alex> Hi : I m looking for a ventirad regulator ...
[12:40] <pag> A_A, you could try installing libc6-dev it might help you
[12:40] <gholm> anyone?
[12:41] <gholm>  can't even tell if anyone can see these posts? anyone?
[12:41] <gholm> hello?
[12:41] <gholm> can you hear me?
[12:43] <PhinnFort> loud and clear
[12:43] <jlilly> sound fixed! apparently I can't spell position  *chuckles*
[12:43] <jlilly> potision.. it's entirely TOO 6:43am right now
[12:43] <PhinnFort> gholm: lsmod
[12:43] <PhinnFort> :44
[12:43] <_eMaX_> re
[12:44] <gholm> PhinnFort: OK will check thanks
[12:44] <_eMaX_> when Ubuntu starts, I see some [fail]  messages appear in red color. How can I find out what went wrong? When the graphical login appears, I cannot get back to these messages, as the console looses the scrollback buffer
[12:44] <PhinnFort> gholm: also "dmesg | grep sata"
[12:44] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: log viewer is your friend
[12:44] <_eMaX_> what is that
[12:44] <mc__> can i use amd64 on my Intel Xeon?
[12:45] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: KSystemLog in the K-MEnu, under System
[12:47] <_eMaX_> PhinnFort: ok information overflow. how can I disable starting kdm for a moment? I'd just like to see the fails scrolling back
[12:48] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: System Settings -> Advanced -> System Services i think
[12:48] <PhinnFort> but System Services is crap, and you should use KControl;)
[12:50] <PhinnFort> well, it's lagging and unusable here, but see if you can find KDM or XDM there
[12:50] <PhinnFort> KDM, actually
[12:51] <_eMaX_> tnx
[12:51] <PhinnFort> (something that system intensive shouldn't be implemented in Python, though)
[12:53] <_3fg> how do I enable the Mac-like toolbars?
[12:53] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2, kcontrol search for "behaviour"
[12:53] <_3fg> ok
[12:53] <PhinnFort> then click on "behaviour"
[12:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:54] <gholm> PhinnFort: is there anyway to downgrade libata?
[12:54] <gholm> to the edgy eft version?
[12:54] <PhinnFort> gholm: i'm not too terribly familiar with how ubuntu handles this
[12:54] <PhinnFort> i suspect the libata is part of the kernel packaage
[12:54] <gholm> k
[12:54] <gholm> PhinnFort: yes it is
[12:54] <_3fg> aha, that did it
[12:54] <_3fg> thanks :)
[12:54] <PhinnFort> gholm: you could go in manually and fix it
[12:55] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you're welcome;)
[12:55] <gholm> PhinnFort: build my own kernel?  heh yeah right
[12:55] <PhinnFort> gholm: it's not that hard, actually;)
[12:55] <PhinnFort> just keep your tongue straight:P
[12:55] <_3fg> now to make Opera look nice
[12:55] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i don't think it's possible
[12:56] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you could skin it, though
[12:56] <PhinnFort> my.opera.com i think
[12:56] <PhinnFort> but some parts will still look like crap
[12:56] <_3fg> yeah
[12:56] <PhinnFort> one of the kde devs tried to convince them to integrate better by re-using parts of KDE, like the widget theme, file dialogs and stuff
[12:56] <_3fg> it only looks nice in windows
[12:57] <PhinnFort> but they where going in the other direction
[12:57] <PhinnFort> just use Konqueror;)
[12:57] <_3fg> meh, does it have mouse gestures?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> yeah
[12:57] <PhinnFort> kcontrol -> input actions
[12:58] <_3fg> that's all I need :)
[12:58] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:58] <jlilly> why is it when I attempt to install things (like upgrades for amarok or kaffine or fresh install of vlc) I get errors. It says it will break previously installed packages, but I don't understand why.
[12:58] <PhinnFort> select "konqueror gestures" and tick off the "disable" box
[12:58] <PhinnFort> jlilly: how is your sources.list?
[12:58] <jlilly> is it perhaps a bit of wierdness with my repositories or something?
[12:59] <PhinnFort> !sources.list
[12:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:59] <jlilly> PhinnFort: Good question. It worked for my upgraded...
[12:59] <PhinnFort> !source-o-matic
[12:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:59] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you can have voice control in that same KControl module
[12:59] <PhinnFort> it's really cool
[12:59] <_3fg> nice
[01:00] <_3fg> I don't have a mic though
[01:00] <PhinnFort> me neither:(
[01:00] <tobias_> good morning every body
[01:00] <PhinnFort> i'm planning on buying a bluetooth-based mic thingy
[01:00] <PhinnFort> !hi | tobias_
[01:00] <ubotu> tobias_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:00] <tobias_> :-)
[01:00] <PhinnFort> :)
[01:01] <tobias_> i think mice are rather nive
[01:01] <tobias_> em.. nice
[01:01] <_3fg> how can I move the K Menu up to the Mac-like toolbar?
[01:02] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i'm not really sure...
[01:02] <_3fg> or is that bar not customizable
[01:02] <PhinnFort> _3fg: maybe ask in #kde
[01:02] <_3fg> ok
[01:02] <gholm> PhinnFort: got any good howto links on a kernel upgrade?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> gholm: search for the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums.org
[01:03] <tobias_> can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7.04 ?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:03] <tobias_> 7.04 ist feisty ??
[01:03] <LjL> _3fg: yes it is
[01:04] <tobias_> nice ;)
[01:04] <LjL> _3fg: http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png
[01:04] <LjL> _3fg: i just right-click on the menubar and "Add applet", does that not work for you?
[01:04] <_3fg> heheh, just like that
[01:05] <tobias_>  is kubuntu 7.04 a stable version ?
[01:05] <LjL> tobias_: yes
[01:05] <tobias_> thanks
[01:05] <tobias_> i am going to upgrade now
[01:05] <tobias_> bye
[01:05] <PhinnFort> glhf
[01:05] <PhinnFort> as in good luck have fun
[01:06] <_3fg> why don't page up/down scroll up and down on images in Konqueror
[01:07] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i think you need to enable it in gwenview settings
[01:07] <PhinnFort> alt+f2 -> gwenview -> settings
[01:10] <tobias_> wow - what a incredible system - it can read my mind - i wanted to update - i clicked no key, but a dialog came, which wanted, that i upgrade my kubuntu :-)
[01:10] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:10] <PhinnFort> magic
[01:11] <roguejedix> Hey, can anyone take a look at my problem I posted on ubuntu forums? I can't seem to get a reply from anyone
[01:11] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: link?
[01:11] <roguejedix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427277
[01:12] <jlilly> anyone using kickoff currently?
[01:12] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: try going to "media:/"
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: i would be, if the source would compile
[01:12] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:12] <jlilly> just wondering how its search function compares to vista
[01:12] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Done. Can only see my HDDs and floppy
[01:12] <jlilly> which is my favorite feature of vista as of yet
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: i dunno what it uses
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: probably beagle, which is better than vista's, afaik
[01:13] <A_A> where is kib ?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> jlilly: KDE 4 is supposed to have semantic search, which is really, really cool
[01:13] <jlilly> sucks that there isn't a deb. in my repositories for kickoff yet :-/
[01:13] <jlilly> PhinnFort: KDE4's eta?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> sometime in 2007
[01:13] <PhinnFort> for 4.0
[01:13] <PhinnFort> which isn't really feature complete
[01:14] <_3fg> how to I access kcontrol?
[01:14] <PhinnFort> 4.1 will be the "real" release, afaik
[01:14] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2 type in "kcontrol" and hit enter
[01:14] <_3fg> k
[01:14] <epimeth> soooo.... KFTPgrabber or Kasablanca?
[01:14] <epimeth> screenshots pull me to the former, name to the latter... what do you guys suggest / prefer?
[01:14] <PhinnFort> epimeth: konqueror
[01:14] <epimeth> seriously?
[01:14] <jlilly> is alt+f2 the shortcut to run program?
[01:15] <PhinnFort> jlilly: yeah
[01:15] <sonoftheclayr> yes
[01:15] <jlilly> :( not working for me.
[01:15] <PhinnFort> epimeth: although I use dolphin
[01:16] <roguejedix> Wonder why CDs work fine and DVDs don't
[01:16] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: how about a "ls -l /media"?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> !paste | roguejedix
[01:16] <ubotu> roguejedix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <roguejedix> Just a sec
[01:19] <roguejedix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18362/
[01:21] <PhinnFort> is the dvd in the drive now?
[01:22] <roguejedix> Yeah
[01:22] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: jlilly: 4.0 is planned to be relased late autumn
[01:22] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: late 2007;)
[01:23] <Tm_T> actually I can give you date
[01:23] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: i doubt it won't be changed
[01:23] <PhinnFort> .P
[01:23] <jlilly> Why would I get this when I'm root?     --     bash: kill: (7142) - Operation not permitted
[01:23] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you paste the output of "dmesg | tail" into #flood
[01:23] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:23] <jlilly> I'm trying to kill kmix b/c I think it errored out.
[01:23] <Tm_T> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[01:23] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Sure thing
[01:24] <MalMen> hello, i install now kbfx
[01:24] <MalMen> how to start it ?
[01:24] <_3fg> hm, I can't get mouse gestures to work
[01:24] <PhinnFort> MalMen: right click on the panel at the bottom, add applet to panel
[01:24] <PhinnFort> _3fg: did you enable them?
[01:25] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i think the DVD is bad
[01:25] <RancidZA> where can i get a list of supported wireless nic's ?
[01:25] <_3fg> they're not disabled
[01:25] <PhinnFort> _3fg: are you using the right mousebutton
[01:25] <_3fg> yep
[01:25] <PhinnFort> _3fg: sure?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> check "general settings" in the input actions settings
[01:26] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: It works fine on my windows partition, though. Should I try putting another one in?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> "settings for gestures" i think the tab is called
[01:26] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: yeah
[01:26] <MalMen> PhinnFort thanks, i think the kbfx is another substitute of k-menu
[01:26] <PhinnFort> what kind of dvd's is it?
[01:26] <MalMen> :)
[01:26] <PhinnFort> MalMen: yeah, it is
[01:26] <PhinnFort> but it sucks, imho;)
[01:26] <PhinnFort> ugly and buggy:P
[01:26] <MalMen> lol
[01:27] <_3fg> whenever I try edit them, it doesn't recognize it
[01:27] <MalMen> i am testing all of that
[01:27] <_3fg> I'm guessing my mouse isn't being fully supported
[01:27] <MalMen> i am being a linux configure pro :P
[01:27] <PhinnFort> _3fg: what mouse button have you currently set?
[01:27] <MidMark> LOL: in #apache channel write Ubuntu and have this back: "Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'"
[01:28] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: I've put in a video DVD now
[01:28] <RancidZA> :/
[01:28] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: have you installed the libdvdcss stuff?
[01:28] <_3fg> uh, it should be right click
[01:28] <PhinnFort> _3fg: but what is set in the KControl module?
[01:28] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Off medibuntu? Right after the install, yeah
[01:29] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: have you codeine installed?
[01:29] <RancidZA> someone please link me to a list of known natively supported wireless network cards plz..
[01:29] <_3fg> hm, I see
[01:29] <PhinnFort> RancidZA: giyf
[01:29] <RancidZA> PhinnFort: hmm?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> RancidZA: google is your friend
[01:29] <RancidZA> i couldnt find it
[01:29] <_3fg> in order to draw it, I need to hold left click
[01:30] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: I do now :)
[01:30] <RancidZA> thats why i came here
[01:30] <_3fg> but if I do that in Konqueror, it just highlights text
[01:30] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you play the DVD with it?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> _3fg: but what button is configured?
[01:30] <RancidZA> ooh ok
[01:30] <RancidZA> i got it
[01:30] <_3fg> what?
[01:31] <_3fg> I don't know
[01:31] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2, kcontrol, input actions, settings for gestures
[01:31] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Nope. I get two error messages.
[01:31] <roguejedix> I'll paste them on #flood
[01:31] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: what is the output of "sudo aptitude search libdvdcss2"
[01:31] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:31] <naor> hi all
[01:32] <PhinnFort> !hi | naor
[01:32] <ubotu> naor: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:32] <naor> just starting on linux guys
[01:32] <_3fg> it doesn't say a button
[01:32] <_3fg> anywhere
[01:33] <PhinnFort> _3fg: mine is in norwegian, but i'll give you a screenshot
[01:33] <jlilly> naor: welcome to the dark side.
[01:33] <_3fg> ok
[01:33] <naor> tnx
[01:33] <_eMaX_> hi all
[01:33] <_eMaX_> anyone happens to have 2.6.21 with ubuntu?
[01:33] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: i   libdvdcss2 - Library for accessing DVDs like block device usind deCSS if
[01:33] <naor> be right back
[01:34] <roguejedix> The rest is cut off
[01:34] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: it seems like your drive won't read DVD's under linux :)
[01:35] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you paste the whole output from dmesg to rafb.net/paste?
[01:35] <naor> hi
[01:36] <_3fg> brb
[01:37] <PhinnFort> _3fg: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenie7.jpg
[01:37] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/5jje6691.html
[01:38] <lettuce> has anyone here set up beryl and xgl on fiesty?
[01:38] <lettuce> (kubuntu fiesty)
[01:39] <LjL> !beryl
[01:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:39] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i think there's something seriously wrong with the hardware detection
[01:39] <neonlinux> hey all.... anyone know how (what application) kde uses to wrap gtk apps in its theme?
[01:39] <PhinnFort> it detects it as a cdrom only
[01:39] <PhinnFort> "[   27.140948]  sr 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1"
[01:39] <LjL> neonlinux: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[01:39] <LjL> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[01:39] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: transitional dummy package. In component main, is optional. Version 0.71~svn20070224-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:39] <LjL> hm, transitional?
[01:40] <LjL> oh, main package's called gtk-qt-engine now
[01:40] <bumzo> anybody there
[01:40] <bumzo> i need help
[01:40] <bumzo> am trying to format my HDD
[01:40] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: So is there a way to force re-detection?
[01:41] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i'm not sure...
[01:41] <_3fg> I don't have that many options PhinnFort
[01:41] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: it's a bit over my head, but can you paste "lsmod" too?
[01:41] <_eMaX_> what's more, anyone is experiencing problems with knetworkmanager? specifically, I have 3 lines in /etc/networks/interfaces: iface eth3 inet dhcp , wireless-essid Wireless , wireless-key ... If I leave the first line in, then knetworkmanager does not find my wireless interface. If I take it out, /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager  does not start correctly.
[01:41] <PhinnFort> _3fg: did you clicky on the 1. first?
[01:42] <neonlinux> thanks LjL
[01:42] <_3fg> the 1.?
[01:42] <PhinnFort> i numbered the things you should click on
[01:43] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/p5xOAC42.html
[01:46] <Edulix> hi
[01:46] <Edulix> how can I add to /usr/local/lib/ ?
[01:46] <stoft> !klaptop
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klaptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Edulix> how can I add /usr/local/lib/ to ld.so.conf ?
[01:47] <LjL> Edulix: edit it and add it?
[01:47] <LjL> bumzo: and the problem is?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i really haven no idea what could be wrong
[01:47] <PhinnFort> i'm just googling randomly around
[01:47] <Edulix> LjL: in which format, something like include /usr/local/lib?
[01:48] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: That's okay. Thanks anyway. I'll try upgrading the firmware or something
[01:48] <PhinnFort> that might help
[01:48] <PhinnFort> i found out what the error means, though
[01:49] <PhinnFort> "Medium error:
[01:49] <PhinnFort> unrecovered read error".
[01:49] <roguejedix> Do tell
[01:49] <LjL> Edulix: oh, it uses ld.so.conf.d now, i see... no, either 1) just do it the old way, i.e. type "/usr/local/lib" iirc or 2) use the ld.so.conf.d, i think the best way might be to create a new file /etc/ld.so.conf.d/custom and add the line there
[01:49] <_3fg> ok
[01:49] <Edulix> ok thanks now it works
[01:49] <_3fg> now I've done what you showed in the screenshot
[01:49] <_3fg> still doesn't work :(
[01:49] <LjL> _3fg: what doesn't work?
[01:50] <_3fg> mouse gestures
[01:50] <LjL> _3fg: oh, thought you were talking about the menubar
[01:50] <_3fg> nah, that works great
[01:50] <PhinnFort> _3fg: have you selected the right mouse button?
[01:50] <PhinnFort> i just showed you how to get to the settings
[01:50] <_3fg> button 3, right??
[01:50] <PhinnFort> with me, yes
[01:50] <PhinnFort> then you need to click apply
[01:51] <_3fg> yep
[01:51] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: So what did you find out the error means?
[01:51] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: "Medium error: unrecovered read error."
[01:51] <PhinnFort> either the drive is damaged, or there's some low-level stuff that's failing
[01:51] <PhinnFort> probably the latter, since it works in XP
[01:51] <roguejedix> Oh, whoops. I thought that WAS the error
[01:52] <PhinnFort> _3fg: have you click in on the individual actions and enabled them?
[01:52] <PhinnFort> remembed the checkbox must NOT be ticked off
[01:52] <_3fg> yep
[01:53] <PhinnFort> maybe ask in #kde
[01:53] <_3fg> I think maybe my mouse touchpad isn't fully supported
[01:53] <roguejedix> Er, what's "low-level stuff"? I'm not familiar with the term
[01:53] <PhinnFort> _3fg: as long as your mouse moves, it should work
[01:53] <_3fg> oh well
[01:53] <_3fg> I can live without them
[01:53] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: the driver in the kernel handling the drive is failing
[01:53] <PhinnFort> somehow
[01:53] <PhinnFort> i believe
[01:53] <roguejedix> Ah, thanks
[01:54] <_3fg> if I could just disable clicking by touching the pad, then I'd be fine
[01:54] <_3fg> any clues on that one?
[01:54] <balint> hi, is there a channel for ktorrent?
[01:55] <Tm_T> balint: #ktorrent ?
[01:55] <balint> nope, im alone in the channle :(
[01:55] <Tm_T> heh
[01:56] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i think there's a tool for configuring touchpads
[01:56] <Tm_T> !ktorrent | balint
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <PhinnFort> ksynaptic or something
[01:56] <Tm_T> oh
[01:56] <slawek> witam
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: ktorrent.org
[01:56] <PhinnFort>  /forums maybe
[01:56] <balint> its really buggy, it cant recognize some seeds :(
[01:56] <PhinnFort> !ksynaptic
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: ?
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: it's working very well here
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: it's actually the best torrent client i've ever used
[01:56] <LjL> !info ksynaptics
[01:56] <LjL> the touchpads are called Synaptics
[01:56] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:57] <LjL> Synaptic is the GNOME package manager ;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> thanks for clarifying;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> i don't have a laptop;)
[01:57] <balint> well here it cant start seeding some torrents. i got the files, but it satrts to download them again, instead of starting to seed
[01:57] <PhinnFort> balint: have you imported them?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> you need to import the downloaded files into ktorrents cache
[01:58] <balint> how?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> import existing download
[01:58] <PhinnFort> on the file menu
[01:58] <PhinnFort> i think
[01:58] <bumzo> LjL ... i have a HDD that reads RAW on windows but cant see in on kubuntu
[01:59] <balint> i only got, new, open, and quit in the file menu
[01:59] <PhinnFort> balint: maybe it's a plugin
[01:59] <PhinnFort> go into the settings and enable it
[01:59] <PhinnFort> "partfileimportplugin"
[01:59] <LjL> bumzo: "can't see it" meaning? can't see the partitions, can't see the entire drive? what have you tried?
[02:00] <bumzo> waht do i do?
[02:00] <LjL> bumzo: where's the HD located? primary master, slave, secondary master, slave? are you on Feisty? is the drive IDE or SATA?
[02:02] <franky> ciaooo
[02:03] <LjL> !it
[02:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:03] <franky> ok tnx very much
[02:03] <bumzo> LjL .. i cant see it at all..i plug it in nothing happens. Its an external toshib HDD taht i connect to my usb drive #
[02:04] <LjL> oh - external. might need special drivers if you're unlucky... what about "lsusb"?
[02:04] <bumzo> lsusb??? ljl
[02:04] <LjL> bumzo: type it in a terminal
[02:05] <bumzo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 ljl
[02:05] <stoft> LjL: nice command :)
[02:05] <bumzo> bus 1 2 3 and 4
[02:06] <LjL> bumzo: they're all listed as empty, like that? (you do have the HD plugged in yes? :P)
[02:07] <balint> PhinnFort thx, now its working, but i dont know, its part of kde, so it must be good, but it uses 25 MB RAM in low memory usage mode, and utorrent uses about 6 MB
[02:07] <PhinnFort> balint: where do you see that?
[02:07] <bumzo> LjL ... yes its plugged in
[02:07] <balint> ctrl-esc
[02:07] <PhinnFort> balint: most of that memory is probably shared libraries, that is shared with the rest of the desktop too
[02:07] <LjL> bumzo: ok, try pastebinning the output of "lshw"
[02:07] <bumzo> and yes they are listed empty LjL
[02:07] <LjL> bumzo: "sudo lshw", actually
[02:08] <bumzo> !pastebin
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <franky> i'm looking for SuperKaramba, is there someone who could explain me how to install it??
[02:11] <don> How can I raise screen resolution the high is 800x600 pannels are too big
[02:11] <Tm_T> franky: "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole
[02:12] <A_A> Since Cedega is intended to run standard 32-bit Windows games, it is by nature a 32-bit application. When running Cedega on a 64-bit Linux system, an appropriate 32-bit compatibility environment must be available.
[02:12] <A_A> how do i get a 32-bit environment ?
[02:12] <franky> and to remove it the command is "sudo apt-get remove superkaramba" ???
[02:12] <Tm_T> franky: yes
[02:12] <bumzo> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18370/
[02:12] <franky> tnx very much
[02:13] <Tm_T> !cedega
[02:13] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:13] <bumzo> ljl .. lengthy ... hope its of help lol
[02:13] <Tm_T> A_A: look there
[02:13] <A_A> ta
[02:13] <Tm_T> A_A: I hope it's mentioned there ;)
[02:15] <Tm_T> !resolution | don
[02:15] <don> ya
[02:15] <bumzo> ljl .. .any luck?
[02:15] <ubotu> don: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <don> i am lost it maxed at 800 i thought i could change it on post
[02:16] <LjL> bumzo, if i'm not mistaken, it's really not seeing the drive in *any* way
[02:16] <LjL> not even as an unknown device or something... unless i've missed it
[02:16] <don> problem is some buttons are too far downto use
[02:17] <bumzo> mmh ... so waht does that mean? i have lost my drive?
[02:17] <don> thanks i will go there
[02:17] <Surger> Is there a glibc 2.4 package for Dapper somewhere? I need to run a newer app which was linked in a newer version of Ubuntu but I cannot upgrade at the moment.
[02:17] <LjL> bumzo: it just means that i've no idea how to start tackling the issue
[02:18] <LjL> Surger: doubt it.
[02:18] <Surger> Darn. :(
[02:19] <bumzo> ljl your right. but knowing linux is not seeing it is the 1st ste[p. windows reads it as filetype RAW
[02:23] <jlilly> any of you guys use Cedega?
[02:24] <jlilly> I am curious, if I stop paying for it, do the games just become unaccessable?
[02:25] <PhinnFort> it will kill your dog
[02:25] <PhinnFort> why don't just use wine?
[02:29] <balint> in the windows behaviors, the trasnculency is still in beta version???
[02:30] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:33] <johnny_> I have a Brand New Toshiba Laptop that I have installed Feisty Kubuntu on and the sound does not play, but no sound server errors are generated. Any clue where I should start looking?
[02:33] <pollyo> Anyone know the steps to setup a network card?
[02:34] <pollyo> My feisty will not recognize the network card after installation but it does during the install.
[02:34] <sunnyhours> !mondo
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mondo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <pollyo> I believe it uses the madwifi driver.
[02:34] <sunnyhours> pollyo: is it a wireless network card?
[02:34] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Yes
[02:35] <sunnyhours> mine actually worked in 6.10 without any installation needed. do you know your ssid?
[02:35] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Yes. it is the default "linksys"
[02:35] <sunnyhours> so what I did was (and it may be different for you) open the system settings thing
[02:35] <pollyo> sunnyhours: My card does not even show up when I boot.  I simply have a loopback displayed with ifconfig
[02:35] <sunnyhours> oooohhhhhhh
[02:36] <Bluetooth> hi
[02:36] <sunnyhours> gimme a sec
[02:36] <pollyo> sunnyhours: In addition I only have terminal.  I am setting up the server edition without gui because of memory.
[02:36] <balint> is that normal, that i set the mount points in fstab, but i cant see them, in the syystem settings->advanced->disk and filesyystems?????
[02:36] <sunnyhours> ahh
[02:36] <sunnyhours> does dmesg | grep wlan0 show anything?
[02:36] <balint> so in fstab my /dev/hda1 is at /media/hda1   but in system setitngs... the mount point is clear :S
[02:37] <pollyo> sunnyhours: No
[02:37] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Funny thing is when I boot with the install recovery and go to a shell my card shows.
[02:38] <sunnyhours> that is weird
[02:38] <pollyo> sunnyhours: It gives me two options to select for a network card. (only one card in the system though)
[02:38] <chief__> what card is it??
[02:38] <sunnyhours> yeah, do you know the chipset?
[02:39] <pollyo> chief__: D-link wda-2320
[02:39] <pollyo> How do I load madwifi?
[02:39] <pollyo> is it ismod?
[02:39] <michi> hallo
[02:40] <michi> wo finde ich etwas ber S-Video-Anschluss?
[02:40] <sunnyhours> lsmod just shows the system modules
[02:40] <sunnyhours> !madwifi
[02:40] <chief__> pollyo  ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/README
[02:40] <pag> !de | michi
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <ubotu> michi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:41] <chief__> with that i got my dwl-122 usb stick going
[02:41] <pollyo> pag: : Is that command line?  I do not have GUI installed.
[02:41] <chief__> yes
[02:44] <michi> hi
[02:44] <michi> versuch ichs hier nochmal:
[02:44] <jjj> hello
[02:44] <michi> kennt jemand gute Seiten fr S-Video
[02:44] <michi> also Erklrunge, wie ich das zum laufen bekomme?
[02:44] <PhinnFort> !de | michi
[02:44] <ubotu> michi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:45] <michi> sorry
[02:45] <michi> again
[02:45] <jjj> i can't speak german...
[02:45] <michi> mist
[02:45] <michi> excuse me
[02:45] <jjj> but i want to learn...
[02:50] <ferox> i'm using kubuntu
[02:50] <ferox> i installed compiz-kde
[02:50] <jjj> is that the 3d desktop environment?
[02:50] <ferox> how can i set compiz start as default X manager?
[02:50] <ferox> yes it is
[02:53] <jjj> is beryl and compiz the same?
[02:54] <Flying_Eagle> no. but almost ;)
[02:54] <Flying_Eagle> they cooperate, jjj
[02:54] <ruben_> hey. can you help me by installing the libdvdcss?
[02:54] <ruben_> i use kubuntu in the newest 704 version
[02:55] <ferox> they do similar work
[02:55] <ruben_> i have downloaded
[02:55] <ferox> is there someone who use compiz on kubuntu?
[02:55] <ruben_> libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[02:56] <ruben_> and now i tyoe in the shell: dpkg -i <name>.
[02:56] <ruben_> but then the shell says to me, that another process is behinding it
[02:57] <MalMen> hello, i have here a problem with kiba-dock, please take a look
[02:57] <MalMen> http://monoport.com/2528
[02:57] <MalMen> http://monoport.com/2528
[02:59] <lz1gjd> how can i completely remove ubuntu desktop from kubuntu ?
[02:59] <MalMen> lz1gjd on synaptic remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <MalMen> or something similar
[03:00] <lz1gjd> ic, but i remember ive tried before,  and its says ubuntu-desktop is an metapackage or something and cant delete /
[03:00] <MalMen> hmmm
[03:00] <MalMen> strange
[03:00] <MalMen> i was update here my ubuntu to kubuntu, but never tryed remove ubuntu
[03:01] <MalMen> kubuntu is ubuntu + kde
[03:01] <MalMen> nothing more
[03:01] <lz1gjd> i know, i gave gnome a chance
[03:01] <MalMen> and any other applications, but the base are the same
[03:01] <lz1gjd> but i want my kde
[03:01] <MalMen> lol
[03:01] <MalMen> gnome is cool
[03:01] <lz1gjd> gnome is sloowww
[03:01] <HymnToLife> MalMen, correction, Kubuntu is Ubuntu plus a very partial and buggy KDE
[03:01] <MalMen> but kde is cool too
[03:01] <lz1gjd> (at least for me)
[03:01] <pag> lz1gjd, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde <- that might work
[03:02] <MalMen> please, anyone take a look on that, -< http://monoport.com/2528
[03:03] <lz1gjd> thx
[03:03] <HymnToLife> MalMen, segfault, that's bad
[03:03] <HymnToLife> maybe a bug in kiba-dock
[03:03] <MalMen> hmm
[03:10] <chief__> any one know how to do a netinstall of 7.04 ??
[03:14] <MalMen> chief__ sudo apt-get dist-update
[03:14] <MalMen> i think
[03:16] <chief__> no i mean from scratch
[03:18] <nsm> hello all.
[03:18] <nsm> I would please like to know how to NOT install the bootloader
[03:18] <nsm> during the installation process their is just one small dialog mentioning the bootloader where you can insert a hard disk name.
[03:19] <nsm> Do i leave it blank if i don't want to install the kubuntu bootloader
[03:19] <johnny_> Hello, I have a Toshiba Satellite l35-S2161 that uses the Realtek Hidefinition Audio Chip. Sound worked with the live cd, but after install, there is no sound, and no sound server error msgs. I have made sure that the main channel is unmuted and that the ALSA is selected in SOund hardware in SYstem Settings.
[03:19] <johnny_> I need to know where to start looking for the possible issues that are preventing sound.
[03:19] <crimsun> johnny_: use model=auto
[03:20] <crimsun> it's known and fixed already upstream, just not yet available in a kernel.
[03:20] <johnny_> ok, thanks.
[03:22] <dromer> hi all, I just installed sopcast o.2.8 but I need firefox to open linsk with sop:// with it, can someone explain (or point me in the right direction to) how I can do this? (I know I have to add something in about:config)
[03:23] <strabes> dromer: you might want to ask in #ubuntu or #linux, there's a lot more activity in those channels
[03:23] <dromer> ok, thnx
[03:25] <RancidZA> im following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 for my RT wireless card
[03:26] <RancidZA> but my makefile is failing with: RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0/Module/rtmp_main.c:197: error: struct net_device has no member named get_wireless_stats
[03:26] <_4strO> dromer: what's the probleme . install firefox ...
[03:26] <johnny_> Thanks for the sound help, however :-)
[03:26] <johnny_> It did not work, so I attempted to install the realtek supplied driver and totally hosed the sound architecture. LOL
[03:27] <johnny_> I have got to get used to Debian based systems! (old slack hacker)
[03:28] <johnny_> the kewl part was, as usual Realtek's Engrish was amusing!
[03:28] <surgy> can someone help me get call of duty to work please? it got a gold rating from winehq and it has one bug, you cant install it beccuase it wont let you eject the first cd to use the second, but there is a fix on the wine appDB, talking about using symlinks? i know nothing about those. can someone shed some light?
[03:29] <johnny_> anyways, thanks for the help today.
[03:29] <RancidZA> any1 have any idea with my make?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> !wine | surgy
[03:29] <ubotu> surgy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> that used to show ##winehq too
[03:29] <johnny_> exit
[03:29] <ericsson> I managed to get codecs/videos working again when upgrading to feisty (as discussed a few hours ago) so, codec/video problems + upgrade = solution :)
[03:29] <surgy> Hobbsee: yah i got that part
[03:29] <Hobbsee> i'd try in ##winehq, as they know more
[03:30] <surgy> Hobbsee: yeah ill ask there, but i thought i whould check here, see if anyone knew anything about symlinks
[03:31] <Hobbsee> surgy: oh, a symlink?  should be easy enough
[03:31] <stoft> ericsson: congrats :)
[03:31] <dromer> _4strO: ? .. I _have_ firefox ... it just doesn't know how to handle sop:// links
[03:31] <Hobbsee> surgy: where's the site?
[03:31] <dromer> _4strO: anyway, I'm upgrading this machine first now
[03:31] <surgy> hobbsee: i just need to trick it into thinking both cds are mounted
[03:31] <surgy> Hobbsee: let me get you a link
[03:32] <surgy> Hobbsee: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2628
[03:32] <Hobbsee> surgy: ln -s /path/to/target /path/to/where/you/want/the/link/to/go
[03:32] <Hobbsee> check man ln for more info
[03:33] <surgy> Hobbsee: ok, umm thanks for being as descriptive as you can (implying sarcasm)
[03:34] <RancidZA> anyone?
[03:34] <RancidZA> http://rafb.net/p/BkxoeX18.html <-- heres the pastebin of my errors
[03:34] <surgy> RancidZA: whats the problem?
[03:35] <RancidZA> surgy, check the rrors :/
[03:35] <RancidZA> errors*
[03:38] <RancidZA> http://rafb.net/p/BkxoeX18.html <-- any1 got any ideas?
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:39] <DarkED> hi, I'm using Kubuntu 7.04, how can I get an itemized list of all my partitions and how much space is left on them?
[03:39] <Tm_T> howdy BluesKaj :)
[03:40] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: guess what, we have snow again =)
[03:40] <DarkED> I went into 'Disks' in system settings but it doesnt tell you how much space remains on a given partition
[03:40] <stoft> DarkED: df -h
[03:40] <DarkED> stoft: thank you :)
[03:40] <stoft> yw
[03:41] <ericsson> Are there any official reports as to if there is an increasing DoS- and virus epedemic directed towards *NIX symtems, since the release of Vista?
[03:41] <DarkED> nice, that works
[03:41] <ericsson> symtems could be systems ;)
[03:41] <DarkED> now, how do i clear the apt-cache? the folder where packages go after download but before install?
[03:41] <stoft> DarkED: :)
[03:41] <ferox> does anyone know how to sobstitute kwin by compiz?
[03:41] <ferox> does anyone know how to sobstitute kwin with compiz?
[03:41] <Jucato> DarkED: sudo apt-get clean
[03:41] <stoft> DarkED: sudo apt-get clean
[03:41] <ericsson> DarkED: apt-get clean
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Tm_T: ..it happens here too at this time of yr :(
[03:41] <ericsson> lol
[03:41] <DarkED> heh thanks
[03:42] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: well, atleast it's cleaner in towns
[03:42] <epimeth> Dolphin's default "Storage Media" icon is ugly... I want the one that is used in the panel... where is that icon located?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !compix
[03:42] <DarkED> yeah, that definitely freed up some space on root (about 1.5gig)
[03:42] <DarkED> nice
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !compiz
[03:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <Hobbsee> ferox: ^
[03:43] <Hobbsee> epimeth: locate *.png and look in a likely place. /usr/share/icons, maybe
[03:44] <epimeth> cheers Hobbsee... and while we're talking about Dolphin... how do I get that to be my default file manager?  there's nothing in "default applications" in the system settings?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> Tm_T: heh it was 22C and sunny yesterday and we had a BBQ dinner...but it may snow tonite ...strange this so called "Global Warming"
[03:45] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: indeed
[03:45] <Jucato> epimeth: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory
[03:45] <Hobbsee> thanks Jucato
[03:45] <ericsson> Where would I go to get rid of that annoying translucent blue rectangle when running KDE?
[03:45] <ferox> Hobbsee:  what "^" means?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ferox: means "look up"
[03:45] <Jucato> ferox: look up :)
[03:45] <Tm_T> ericsson: what where?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ferox: usually at the previous line
[03:45] <ferox> :)
[03:46] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh I thought you were around when Tonio told me that
[03:46] <ericsson> Tm_T: That there ;) No, seriously..the blue rectangle that shows when you 'click 'n drag' on the KDE desktop
[03:46] <Hobbsee> Jucato: may well have been, but i might not have actually been looking at irc
[03:46] <Tm_T> ericsson: hmm, you mean selection?
[03:46] <Jucato> Rubberband effect in Appearance -> Style -> Effects tab ?
[03:47] <ericsson> Tm_T: Yeah, I guess one could call it that as well ;) Mouse-cursor-thingie-sluggish-rubbish
[03:47] <Tm_T> ericsson: ... I dont get any
[03:47] <epimeth> cheers Jucato
[03:47] <Tm_T> so without pic can't know what you really mean
[03:47] <ericsson> Tm_T: You should celebrate it then, today already ;)
[03:47] <BluesKaj> epimeth, did you check in adept?
[03:48] <ericsson> Tm_T: It doesn't show in snap-shot :/
[03:48] <Tm_T> ericsson: =)
[03:48] <ericsson> Tm_T: I am SO not used to GUI ;)
[03:49] <epimeth> BluesKaj: check what in adept?
[03:49] <Tm_T> ericsson: have camera around? ;--P
[03:49] <ericsson> Tm_T: hahah, you'd wish :)
[03:50] <Tm_T> heh, too easy ;)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> sorry epimeth , I misread , i thought you were looking to install dolphin
[03:50] <Hobbsee> surgy: you asked about symlinks, i told you.  i'm not very familiar with how wine works, to offer a solution on how to mount the "z:" drive, which, afaik, doesnt actually exist in linux, and i think wine might create it.  so you might have to ask in ##winehq for that part.
[03:52] <ericsson> Jucato: I found some rubber-thingie there but I already un-ticked "enable GUI effects". Them flashy thingies hurts my eyes!
[03:53] <ericsson> Tm_T: You should be happy not to know what it is...I can't get rid of that bloody thing ;)
[03:53] <stoft> ericsson: install fluxbox, ion, ratpoison or something. :)
[03:53] <ericsson> stoft: I tried pouring coca-cola over the monitor, didn't help..
[03:54] <ericsson> Ehh...
[03:55] <ericsson> Ok people, I had to enable ALL GUI effects, then remove the rubber-band-thingie, then turn off ALL GUI effects, and now it's gone!
[03:55] <BluesKaj> eye candy ...dunno why ppl bother
[03:55] <Tm_T> ericsson: haha, I fiddled around that thing and now kwin crashed =)
[03:56] <ericsson> Tm_T: It was under System Settings - > Apperance -> Styles -> Effects
[03:56] <Tm_T> ericsson: yes
[03:56] <ericsson> Not very stable thing :)
[03:57] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Eyecandy, that's what we call Vista around here..
[03:57] <ericsson> Or..correction, that's not even candy..
[03:57] <balint> where can i check how many free space do i have on my ext3 partition?
[03:57] <ericsson> Jucato: I had, when trying to turn it off :)
[03:57] <Jucato> :P
[03:57] <ericsson> balint: df -H
[03:57] <Jucato> balint: df -h
[03:57] <Aaronfromchina> how to turn off sound when I get a message in Kopete?
[03:58] <balint> and in GUI is it possible to check? just wanna know :)
[03:58] <Jucato> balint: if you want a GUI to go with it, try installing Filelight
[03:58] <_4strO> Aaronfromchina: in kopette options ?
[03:58] <balint> but how could this be? i mean that kde is not able to show free space? :)
[03:58] <Jucato> balint: or, right-click on any empty space in Konqueror (file manager) and select properties. the bottom part
[03:59] <_4strO> balint: just pass your mouse pointer on a dir
[03:59] <Aaronfromchina> _4strO: I found it. thanks. :)
[04:00] <balint> damn, i only got 841 MB free space :'(
[04:00] <stoft> !kdf | balint
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ericsson: beryl isn't classified as eye candy :) ...well , maybe window dressing eh ?
[04:00] <stoft> balint: kdf = KDiskFree displays the available file devices (hard drive partitions, floppy and CD drives, etc.) along with information on their capacity, free space, type and mount point. It also allows you to mount and unmount drives and view them in a file manager.
[04:01] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Never tried it, probably won't either..I already have problems with KDE :)
[04:01] <stoft> BluesKaj: are you running beryl?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:02] <BluesKaj> nope stoft
[04:02] <balint> in adept i only find gtkdiskfree, thats for gnome, will it work for kde?
[04:03] <stoft> balint: hang on
[04:03] <BluesKaj> balint: the kde version is 'kdf'
[04:03] <stoft> balint: kdf is part of kdeutilities I think
[04:03] <balint> thx
[04:03] <carles> erm
[04:03] <balint> yes, kdf is the point
[04:04] <carles> do ya know how can i access to my other hd info (ntfs)?
[04:04] <ericsson> !ntfs-3g
[04:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <nanothief> hey I'm having problems installing php5 and apache2 with kubuntu feisty
[04:04] <balint> and how can i empty the package cache? or it unloads it automaticallyy?
[04:04] <stoft> balint: sudo apt-get clean
[04:04] <carles> thx
[04:05] <nanothief> the html pages load, but php pages don't
[04:05] <stoft> balint: I can't find kdf/kdeutils in adept, I would just do "sudo apt-get install kdf"
[04:05] <balint> !kdirstat
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdirstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <balint> kdirstat is also good
[04:05] <balint> u just found it
[04:05] <Hobbsee> stoft: correct
[04:06] <Hobbsee> stoft: assuming you have universe
[04:06] <balint> yupppppii after cleaning, i have 1,5 GB free space :D:D:D:
[04:07] <morpheus> anybody know anything about database replication on a kubuntu server (using mysql)?
[04:07] <stoft> nanothief: check your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to see if php is there
[04:08] <BluesKaj> stoft:  did you install kde ?
[04:08] <nanothief> stoft: ok
[04:08] <korobase> Any one here work on linux platform for developing game software?
[04:09] <stoft> BluesKaj: eh... yes. but I think I missed the context of your question...
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nm
[04:09] <nanothief> stoft: i think it is, there is a file in that folder called php5.conf
[04:10] <korobase> How to set up a develop environment for game programming?
[04:10] <korobase> in ubuntu linux.
[04:10] <stoft> nanothief: and a php5.load as well?
[04:10] <nanothief> stoft: yes
[04:10] <stoft> k
[04:11] <stoft> nanothief: have you restarted apache after install of php?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> ktorrent keeps crashing as if there was a timer inside it ... every hr it seems
[04:11] <ericsson> Wouldn't it be enough to add index.php to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf now?
[04:11] <D4kk0n> how to enable mp3 support in Amarok?
[04:12] <LjL> !mp3 > D4kk0n    (D4kk0n, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:12] <stoft> ericsson: actually I'm not sure, I've fiddled more with apache under windows than linux. :-/
[04:12] <nanothief> stoft: yes, i did a restart, and a force-reload. I'm getting the output of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18383/
[04:12] <Bluetooth> hi all
[04:12] <Bluetooth> need help
[04:12] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:13] <ericsson> nanothief: Try to add index.php to DirectoryIndex in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf then..
[04:13] <stoft> nanothief: in other words something else is already listening on port 80?
[04:14] <Bluetooth> http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:14] <Bluetooth> this is a screenshot
[04:14] <nanothief> stoft: yes, but I'm not sure what it could be (i only installed feisty a week ago)
[04:14] <Bluetooth> having this output on Adept
[04:14] <stoft> nanothief, you can probably figure it out with "lsof", hang on, need to read up on the man page.
[04:15] <ericsson> nanothief: do netstat -tap in terminal
[04:17] <Bluetooth> hello
[04:17] <nanothief> I did the netstat -tap command, and i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18385/
[04:17] <Bluetooth> can anybody help me
[04:17] <stoft> Bluetooth: just ask your quesiton instead of waiting for someone to say yes
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !anyone | Bluetooth
[04:18] <ubotu> Bluetooth: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <pike_> guys im in virtualpc (long story) getty isnt working and neither is mouse. is there a shortcut key to open konsole?
[04:18] <nanothief> erricsson: do i just add the line "index.php" to the apache2.conf file?
[04:18] <ericsson> nanothief: try kill 5135
[04:19] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:19] <Bluetooth> output of Adept on screenshot http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:19] <ericsson> nanothief: Yes, under the category DirectoryIndex, there you add index.php
[04:19] <Bluetooth> I ASKED
[04:20] <nanothief> ericsson: the kill command fixed it :)
[04:20] <ericsson> brilliant :)
[04:20] <nanothief> ericsson: umm how do I fix it permanently?
[04:21] <ericsson> nanothief: it should work now, it was just a process that was stuck (remains of apache)
[04:21] <nanothief> oh okay
[04:21] <balint> How can I lock session with a command???
[04:21] <ericsson> nanothief: but try /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:22] <nanothief> ericsson: its still good. Thanks for your help :D
[04:23] <ericsson> nanothief: no problems, mate..
[04:24] <balint> anybody knows how to lock?
[04:25] <pike_> no default kde shortcut to open konsone?
[04:25] <pike_> shortcut key I mean
[04:25] <stoft> balint: with a key? :) there is a lock applet, otherwise I would look through global shortcuts, it might be there
[04:25] <stoft> pike_: create one under settings
[04:25] <balint> stoft i would like to lock from alt-f2 command line
[04:26] <stoft> balint: ctrl+alt+L locks
[04:26] <balint> thx
[04:26] <pike_> stoft: im in ms virtulpc and cant alt-f? and mouse isnt working.. :)
[04:26] <stoft> brb - coffee
[04:26] <Bluetooth> so
[04:26] <Bluetooth> still nobody?
[04:26] <formatter> stoft: if i want install x-server in xubuntu in kubuntu, is there are problem with it..
[04:27] <Bluetooth> hello
[04:27] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:27] <Bluetooth> output of Adept on screenshot http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:28] <The_Machine> Having an issue with 7.04 on my laptop.  It seems every other time it won't pick up any wireless networks..
[04:29] <The_Machine> but i'm POSITIVE they're in range.  It also seems to coincide with the fact that i won't have any AC plugged in, but it says that there is no battery detected..
[04:29] <The_Machine> but, the battery thing aside (unless you think they're related)
[04:30] <formatter> the_machines:yes,my laptop with kubuntu cant connecting to the network too..
[04:30] <The_Machine> formatter - does it ever work?
[04:30] <The_Machine> because half the time it'll show wireless networks
[04:30] <formatter> never..
[04:30] <ericsson> Bluetooth: what version are you running at the moment=?
[04:30] <The_Machine> oh, well
[04:30] <The_Machine> seems to be a different issue
[04:31] <Bluetooth> 5.10
[04:31] <The_Machine> because mine has worked several times
[04:31] <formatter> the_machines:last day i've got information with kwlan..but it still cant connectin..
[04:32] <ubuntu> LjL do you work here??
[04:32] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Try to write: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f --fix-missing
[04:33] <ubuntu> How do I find my mac adress?
[04:33] <LjL> ubuntu: what do you mean now
[04:33] <ubuntu> You are always here
[04:33] <LjL> ubuntu: no, i don't "work" here.
[04:33] <ubuntu> Do you get paid, or is a woluntair helper or something?
[04:33] <LjL> the latter
[04:33] <ubuntu> And how do I find my mac adress?
[04:34] <ericsson> ubuntu: It would be as easy as ifconfig
[04:35] <jhutchins> LjL: We're mostly just fellow users who came here looking for answers and stayed to help those who we could.
[04:35] <Bluetooth> :))))
[04:35] <Bluetooth> started to install now
[04:35] <LjL> jhutchins: ehm, i don't you meant that for me? =)
[04:35] <formatter> whois
[04:35] <ubuntu> LjL Do you have a job, or something?
[04:35] <ericsson> Bluetooth: sounds like it worked :)
[04:35] <Bluetooth> seems to be fine
[04:35] <Bluetooth> thanx
[04:35] <Bluetooth> :))
[04:35] <LjL> ubuntu: my business honestly, and we're offtopic
[04:35] <ericsson> Bluetooth: No problems mate..
[04:35] <stoft> pike_: solve your problem yet?
[04:36] <ubuntu> Do I need the bluetoot programs if I don't have a bluetoot card?
[04:37] <ericsson> ubuntu: nope :)
[04:37] <pike_> stoft: nope
[04:37] <ubuntu> What is berryl?
[04:37] <ubuntu> Do I need it??
[04:37] <The_Machine> no.
[04:37] <The_Machine> :)
[04:37] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, beryl-project.org
[04:37] <The_Machine> it's basically eyecandy/themes
[04:37] <pike_> stoft: i think my main prob is my IT dep and their fear of vmware
[04:37] <stoft> pike_: try alt+space, if you've got katapult running it will let you start konsole
[04:37] <formatter> heyy,everyone can help me..i've got problem with my wifi network cant connecting to the network..
[04:37] <The_Machine> pike - the rest of my dept. fears VMWare
[04:38] <The_Machine> i'm the only one who uses it
[04:38] <The_Machine> sucks :/
[04:38] <ericsson> BluesKaj would argue that it's NOT eyecandy, it's windos dressing according to him ;)
[04:38] <stoft> pike_: virtualpc, is that the ms ware?
[04:38] <The_Machine> ericsson: dressing = eyecandy.
[04:38] <The_Machine> :P :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> eyecandy is windowdressing , ericsson :)
[04:39] <ericsson> The_Machine: I'm to old for this :)
[04:39] <ubuntu> The login screen how do I change it so I wont have to write my username (I still want to write te password)??
[04:39] <adaptr> system -> admin -> login window
[04:39] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, that is the default behaviour for KDM
[04:39] <ericsson> ok, conclusion: beryl = thick custard dressing
[04:40] <pike_> stoft: yeah
[04:40] <The_Machine> old?  hmm.
[04:40] <ubuntu> I'm using kubuntu, there is no admin in system
[04:40] <BluesKaj> gents , for some reason I'm getting ./configure errors to do with GTK_CONFIG, when installing Xtraceroute ...I also get a "makefile" error "notargets specified . I guess it has to do with that "./configure" isn't creating the make file...any suggestions ?
[04:40] <The_Machine> (how old?) :)
[04:40] <ericsson> ubuntu: the root user is locked by default
[04:40] <ubuntu> I know
[04:40] <ubuntu> Andit is irrelevant
[04:41] <ericsson> The_Machine: Heading up to mid-way, to put it that way..
[04:41] <ubuntu> Yorokobi, No it only shows the username of the last logged in person-
[04:41] <ericsson> BluesKaj: got compiler?
[04:41] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, yep, the default behaviour. Do you want it to show the _same_ user name every time?
[04:41] <The_Machine> pfft.  that isn't old!
[04:41] <stoft> pike_: my colleague uses that quite a bit, unfortunately he's not here right now. however there's some trick to activating function key functionality, I can't remember if it's F8 or similar, I would google for it.
[04:42] <ubuntu> No, I want it to list alll users like in windows xp.
[04:42] <BluesKaj> not installed by default , ericsson ?
[04:42] <ericsson> The_Machine: In my opinion I'm already old 'n grey ;)
[04:42] <Yorokobi> There *might* be a KDM theme that allows that ...
[04:42] <pike_> stoft: i see thx
[04:43] <ubuntu> If i scerw up kdm, would it be a big problem to restore it?
[04:43] <stoft> pike_: hope you find it, handy to have :D
[04:44] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Not sure about 7.04, but I would say no, not by default..
[04:44] <ubuntu> I found it, thanks
[04:44] <deviance> !photoshop
[04:44] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:45] <mahdi> neat.
[04:45] <Bluetooth> ericsson, got error
[04:45] <BluesKaj> !compiler
[04:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <ericsson> Bluetooth: what did it say now?
[04:45] <Bluetooth> returned error 1
[04:46] <ericsson> Bluetooth: would you care to elaborate further on that? :)
[04:47] <Bluetooth> donno
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hmmm strange ericsson...I installed build-essential ,first thing ...din't realize it was called 'compiler' ...but it must be broken
[04:47] <ubuntu> How do I install kdm theme manager??
[04:47] <ericsson> Bluetooth: So, the upgrade just stopped, giving you an error just saying: error1, and then nothing?
[04:48] <Bluetooth> yes
[04:48] <Bluetooth> it said apt-get, or some other program, returned error 1
[04:48] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Could be you need -dev packages as well
[04:48] <Bluetooth> I started it again
[04:48] <Bluetooth> intalling till now
[04:48] <Bluetooth> will see
[04:49] <dewey> good day mates
[04:50] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, Kmenu->System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager, switch to Administrator and put check marks next to everyone you want to show up as well as next to the "Show list" option.
[04:50] <dewey> I upgraded to feisty and now mpg files will not play but I can paly wmv files using kaffeinw?
[04:50] <ericsson> Bluetooth: you could try to to do the following: sudo apt-get clean apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade -f --fix-missing
[04:50] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, under the Users tab
[04:50] <Bluetooth> will try if it will stop again
[04:50] <Bluetooth> going fine now
[04:51] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Let it run if it runs..
[04:51] <Bluetooth> yeah
[04:51] <Bluetooth> and another thing
[04:52] <Bluetooth> is it possible to access a web server by localhost?
[04:52] <Bluetooth> because when I try to it returns Page could not be found
[04:52] <dec> anyone know why when I shut down feisty it will not shut down completely, i have to turn the machine off
[04:53] <Bluetooth> but I can access it from another PCs in network
[04:53] <ubuntu> How can I use diffrent images for diffrent accounts??
[04:53] <ericsson> !medibuntu | dewey
[04:53] <ubotu> dewey: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:54] <mahdi> dec: when you use 'sudo shutdown now' from the konsole does it give any errors?
[04:54] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Are you running the server on the same machine as the one you are accessing it from?
[04:55] <dec> haven't tried that so should i use alt f2 and then run sudo shutdown now
[04:55] <mahdi> try it and see if it returns anything funky, dec
[04:55] <dec> if it does then what
[04:55] <ubuntu> what is medibuntu??
[04:55] <Bluetooth> yes
[04:56] <mahdi> dec: come back and show me what the error is, or we can just cross that off and move on to another theory
[04:56] <Bluetooth> I tried both localhost and 127.0.0.1
[04:56] <Bluetooth> won't work
[04:56] <dec> ok
[04:56] <ericsson> ubuntu: files and contents that could not be included in the distrubution for legal reasons, like various video supports
[04:56] <Bluetooth> but apache says it uses 127.0.0.1 as domain name
[04:57] <ericsson> Bluetooth: If I don't remember wrong, there is a line in apache's httpd.conf which says: allow localhost yes|no
[04:57] <ubuntu> But I can download them?
[04:58] <ericsson> ubuntu: read on that page, it's up to your own discretion how you use them
[04:58] <ubuntu> What version of KDE is the newest?
[04:58] <Jucato> ubuntu: KDE 3.5.6
[04:58] <Jucato> (3.5.7 will be out by May)
[04:58] <ubuntu> So kde 4 isn't released yet?
[04:59] <Jucato> nope. target date is on October
[04:59] <Jucato> (quite tentative)
[04:59] <Bluetooth> ok. where is this file?? :)
[04:59] <Bluetooth> (I'm not good in linux file structure :)
[04:59] <nuu> ericsson: you probably mean the server-status "special" apache page
[05:00] <dewey> er
[05:00] <nuu> theoretically if apache binds to 0.0.0.0 (ie all addresses), you shoudl be able to access it from every interface
[05:00] <dewey> ericsson, that  url is not opeing?
[05:00] <ericsson> nuu: Could be, but I was thinking of the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf (if that one still exists)
[05:00] <dewey> opening
[05:01] <ericsson> dewey: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:01] <nuu> yeah, that's apache2.conf in apache2
[05:01] <dewey> it opened fina;lly
[05:01] <ericsson> dewey: ok
[05:01] <nuu> at least on ubuntu
[05:01] <nuu> httpd.conf is there but it's just a stub
[05:01] <ericsson> nuu: ok, that makes sense :)
[05:01] <ubuntu> How do I mount a windows partion, I forgott?
[05:02] <ericsson> ubuntu: fat or nfts?
[05:02] <ubuntu> ntfs
[05:02] <ericsson> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu
[05:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:02] <Bluetooth> ericsson there is such file, but it's nearly empty
[05:02] <ubuntu> I do not need a driver, I already have one mounted, but the other one won't mount.
[05:02] <Bluetooth> contents some comments
[05:03] <ericsson> Bluetooth: as nuu said, it's a stub.
[05:03] <ericsson> ubuntu: try mount -a and see if it pops up..
[05:03] <nuu> Bluetooth: do you have a file named ports.conf ?
[05:03] <Jucato> !ntfs | ubuntu
[05:04] <ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:04] <Bluetooth> I have apache2.conf
[05:05] <Bluetooth> looking ther, didn't see the directive u mentioned
[05:05] <nuu> what directive ?
[05:05] <ubuntu> Ignoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:05] <ubuntu> Ignoring /dev/sdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:05] <ubuntu> it says
[05:05] <ubuntu> that
[05:05] <Bluetooth> allow localhost yes|no
[05:06] <Bluetooth> ericsson told there might such directive there
[05:06] <nuu> Bluetooth: paste output of "sudo netstat -nap | grep apache"
[05:06] <ericsson> Bluetooth: You have newer version than I'm used to..
[05:06] <dewey> ericsson, hmm I did what it said on the website and nothing happened?
[05:07] <dewey> no updates?
[05:07] <ericsson> dewey: have you tried sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[05:07] <ubuntu> Why do I have a partion for a floppy drive??
[05:08] <dewey> ericsson, yes
[05:08] <mahdi> in fstab? those aren't partitions, those are mount points
[05:08] <mad>  heres the paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18396/ ->  kaffeine crashed by clicking on the dvb-tab, when running as sudo it doesnt crash.. anybody knows why?
[05:08] <mahdi> and devices
[05:09] <korobase> Help me!!  /usr/bin/ld:cannot find -lXxf86vm
[05:09] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465713
[05:09] <Bluetooth> there
[05:09] <korobase> which package I have not installed?
[05:09] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465715 - my apache2.conf
[05:10] <dewey> Fetched 4B in 2m10s (0B/s)
[05:10] <dewey> Reading package lists... Done
[05:10] <dewey> ericsson, so everything is updated?
[05:10] <nuu> what's your problem again ?
 installed all packeges, how do I now wheter upgraded to 7.04??
[05:10] <nuu> what page you cant display
[05:11] <Bluetooth> nuu me?
[05:11] <nuu> yes
[05:11] <Bluetooth> I can't open my web server by localhost
[05:11] <Bluetooth> meaning from server itself
[05:11] <nuu> using what address ?
[05:12] <Bluetooth> localhost or 127.0.0.1
[05:12] <nuu> ok what does tail /var/log/apache2/error.log say ?
[05:15] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465726
 u here?
[05:16] <nuu> ok, if you try to open http://localhost , and check that error.log file again
[05:16] <nuu> do you notice anything different ?
[05:16] <nuu> or just the same stuff
[05:17] <Bluetooth> same shit
[05:17] <nuu> what's the error page you get ?
[05:17] <Bluetooth> 502
[05:17] <Bluetooth> shit it's proxy error
[05:17] <Bluetooth> :)))))
[05:17] <Bluetooth> will try to fix it now
[05:17] <nuu> haha
[05:17] <nuu> there ;)
[05:18] <nuu> you got a listening proxy on localhost:80
[05:18] <nuu> i suggest you switch port to 8081 or similar
[05:18] <Bluetooth> haha
[05:18] <Bluetooth> me idiot
[05:18] <Bluetooth> just had to add localhost to proxy exeption list
[05:18] <nuu> nah, you distracted ;)
[05:18] <Bluetooth> :)))))
[05:19] <nuu> if you add localhost to proxy exception, you wont be able to access the proxy from the local machine
[05:19] <nuu> which could be ok for you, but could as well be limiting
[05:19] <nuu> in that if you use a caching proxy, like squid, it can fasten web access time
[05:19] <nuu> therefore you may as well change the proxy port and reconfigure your lan boxes, if you got few
[05:19] <Bluetooth> nuu how to check version of Kubuntu?
[05:19] <nuu> lsb_release -a
[05:20] <Bluetooth> hurrah
[05:20] <Bluetooth> got Fiesty
[05:20] <Bluetooth> thanx a lot to <ericsson> and you, nuu
[05:20] <Bluetooth> ;)
[05:20] <nuu> np
[05:22] <Bluetooth> have to go now
[05:22] <Bluetooth> peace, mates
[05:22] <nuu> seeya
[05:23] <bob__012> stop
[05:23] <ericsson> hmm..
[05:24] <ericsson> feisty + dell = true http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp
[05:30] <acidBURN> question on feisty with broadcom 4318, does it support it?
[05:33] <HymnToLife> acidBURN, it should, with ndiswrapper
[05:33] <HymnToLife> (or bcm43xx maybe)
[05:33] <acidBURN> well, I did this in dapper
[05:33] <acidBURN> now its feisty
[05:33] <acidBURN> heard they where working on a fix
[05:33] <Alarm> hello , i try to make my usb hd to be automounted when i turn it on , and unmounted when i turn it off. i did add my user in the plugdev group re-loged in . and made a pmount /dev/sda1 , and it worked without any problem. but when i turned off the the drive and then on again , i get the messege :  mount point /media/win5 is occupied
[05:33] <Alarm> how could i fix that and let my os mount it unmount when i turn it on/off
[05:34] <acidBURN> now, here where it gets fun
[05:35] <acidBURN> I purchase a netgear WG511T, pcmcia card, which work for the most part out of the box.... Hower
[05:36] <nuu> Alarm: there's no such thing as "automatic unmount"
[05:36] <nuu> if you yank the power cable off something, not even Jesus will have time to cleanly unmount whatever filesystem was on the poor thing
[05:36] <nuu> :)
[05:36] <acidBURN> however, I did see knetworkmanger show signal strength, but when rebooting, it does not show signal strength again...?
[05:36] <acidBURN> 
[05:37] <nuu> you have to manually unmount the partition in use before you plug it out
[05:37] <nuu> that's the way it works
[05:37] <sunnyhours> gdm is just a login manager right? will that screw up anything on my kubuntu install?
[05:37] <Alarm> nuu,  ok unmounting it is not actullly my problem but mounting it mainly
[05:37] <nuu> gdm is the gnome desktop manager
[05:37] <nuu> automounting should work out of the box
[05:38] <Alarm> when i turn it of i have to write always in the console pmount /dev/sda1 to be able to view the files of that disk
[05:38] <ericsson> nuu: Are you sure Jesus can't clean it? He's quite fast you know..
[05:38] <Alarm> when i double click on the removable disk i get the message i wrote above
[05:38] <nuu> ericsson: ok maybe only Jesus ;)
[05:38] <nuu> and Chuck Norris, of course
[05:38] <ericsson> Yeah, chuck can if anyone can
[05:39] <Alarm> steven cegal also, but i dont think he can help me much with the external drive at the moment :)
[05:39] <sunnyhours> nuu: what would you recommend for setting a particular user to autologin with fluxbox on startup of my kubuntu system?
[05:39] <acidBURN> wouldn't the netgear WG511T give me more native support than the broadcom 4318 ?
[05:39] <nuu> not sure how to set someone to autologin, you should have a desktop manager choice at logon
[05:39] <ericsson> Has anyone here tried zimbra-server?
[05:39] <nuu> can't help there buddy, sorry
[05:40] <sunnyhours> nuu: no worries.... thanks
[05:40] <nuu> np
[05:41] <nuu> Alarm: is your partition in /etc/fstab ?
[05:41] <Alarm> no, i was told that it doesnt need to be
[05:41] <nuu> indeed, it doesn't
[05:41] <fulat2k> rather off topic... anyone here can recommend a good timesheet tracking application?  has to be open source. :)
[05:41] <Alarm> so i did remove it
[05:42] <ericsson> Yorokobi: I am in the middle of reading/installing that cr**
[05:42] <nuu> the hal/udev automounter kicks in, and allocates a temporary mountpoint for it
[05:42] <nuu> so what do you get, when you plug the disk in ?
[05:42] <Alarm> but dont get it what has the /media/win5 dir to do with
[05:42] <Alarm> the dialog window opens , to press ok (to open it) or cancel
[05:42] <nuu> and it opens ? ie, it's correctly automounted ?
[05:43] <Alarm> no i get the error message : the mount point /media/win5 is allready occupied
[05:43] <Alarm> although : rockpc:/home/alarm# umount /media/win5 umount: /media/win5: not mounted
[05:43] <nuu> what does "mount | grep win5" report ?
[05:43] <Alarm> nothing , no output
[05:44] <nuu> hm
[05:44] <Alarm> as i said. i did add my user in the plugdev group and reloged
[05:44] <nuu> what's the label of the partition ?
[05:44] <nuu> and what's the filesystem you're trying to mount ?
[05:45] <Alarm> then i did pmount /dev/sda1 and it got mounted. i know that if i will do it now, it will be ok . but once i turn it off and on again, i get the same message with "occupied"
[05:45] <Alarm> ntfs
[05:45] <nuu> is the label of that ntfs partition "win5" by any chance ?
[05:45] <Alarm> no , if u mean the title lable of the drive its Movable
[05:46] <nuu> hm, ok
[05:46] <nuu> try pmount /dev/sda1 usbdisk
[05:46] <Alarm> win5 was a direcotry that i created yesterday by trying to mount it with the fstab
[05:46] <nuu> see if it mounts like that
[05:46] <Alarm> but i didnt use it since then
[05:46] <Alarm> neither is there any other entry with the /dev/sda1 in the fstab anymore
[05:47] <Alarm> nuu,  as i said, it mounts like that. it mounts with pmount /dev/sda1 (without the usbdisk) , but when i turn off (even if before turning off i "remove safely" ) the disk, and then turn it on again, and try to get in the partition i get again the same error messege, and have to pmount it again
[05:49] <nuu> ok, it's almost as if pmount isnt correctly releasing the mountpoint
[05:49] <ericsson> Anyone know what NPTL is?
[05:49] <nuu> if i get this right
[05:49] <Alarm> frankly talking, i couldnt find something online that i could understand and could help me also. i am sure there is something but where :)
[05:49] <Alarm> nuu believe me i know less than u do :) so could be that u are right
[05:49] <binks_work> does anyone no webdav
[05:50] <nuu> ok, let's try this..
[05:50] <nuu> mount it, and from command line, without "safely removing" it, do a pumount /dev/sda1
[05:50] <nuu> does that help any ?
[05:51] <Alarm> mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 usbdisk ?
[05:51] <nuu> yeah, usbdisk is just to make it mount somewhere else
[05:51] <nuu> so as to make pmount believe the mountpoint ain't busy
[05:51] <nuu> you can very well pmount /dev/sda1 ihatepmount if you want ;)
[05:51] <Alarm> ok, first result. i did pmount /dev/sda1 usbdisk and it mounted it , and i can get in . till now i didnt have any problem with it, i had when turning of
[05:51] <paparounas> if anyone knows how to setup an ISDN modem with KPPP plz tell me
[05:52] <Alarm> now let me unmount it
[05:52] <nuu> ok
[05:52] <Alarm> ok unmounted it. now turn it off and on again ?
[05:52] <nuu> yup
[05:52] <ubuntu> anyone here??
[05:53] <Alarm> same error
[05:53] <nuu> usbdisk busy ? or win5 busy ?
[05:53] <ubuntu> what time is it in kubuntu??
[05:53] <dac_> ubuntu,we're here.
[05:53] <Alarm> win5
[05:53] <ubuntu> ok
[05:53] <dromer> hi all, I upgraded my ubuntu yesterday from edgy to feisty, now I can't see any of the rogular window options like move to viewport right
[05:53] <dromer> in beryl*
[05:53] <ubuntu> So I have an internett connection?
[05:53] <nuu> Alarm: cat /etc/fstab | grep -i win5
[05:54] <dac_> yes
[05:54] <ubuntu> How can I check if I have a working internett connection
[05:54] <ubuntu> ??
[05:54] <nuu> ubuntu: no, you're chatting to a local network of proxy bots, emulating irc on your local kubuntu installation
[05:54] <nuu> proxy drone nuu reporting for duty
[05:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: uh, you're online if you're here.
[05:54] <Alarm> #/dev/sda1    /media/win5    ntfs    auto,gid=1000,umask=0002    0    0
[05:54] <Jucato> ubuntu: the fact that you're online means you're connected
[05:55] <nuu> Alarm: cat /etc/fstab | grep -i sda1
[05:55] <Alarm> #/dev/sda1    /media/win5    ntfs    auto,gid=1000,umask=0002    0    0
[05:55] <ubuntu> SO you can confirm I have an working internett connection`
[05:55] <Yorokobi> nuu, shorter: grep -i sda1 /etc/fstab
[05:55] <Alarm> same entry
[05:55] <nuu> Yorokobi: deformation ;)
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: you do, obviously.  you're here
[05:55] <Alarm> but its commented
[05:55] <Alarm> should i remove it completely ?
[05:56] <nuu> nope, commented should be pretty fine
[05:56] <nuu> hmm
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to scour my logs and put up a "clueless" page for some laughs
[05:56] <Alarm> dont get its problem with /media/win5
[05:57] <ubuntu> Do I still have internett??
[05:57] <Yorokobi> No, ubuntu, you don't. Its down now.
[05:57] <ubuntu> Or am I offline now?
[05:57] <ubuntu> a troll??
[05:57] <nuu> Alarm: yet the error reports win5 every time
[05:57] <LjL> correct
[05:57] <nuu> did you reboot your box since you modified fstab ? i know it sounds weird, but...did you ?
[05:57] <Alarm> nuu , a silly question, should i pumount it , turn it off. restart and try ?
[05:58] <Alarm> u're in my mind
[05:58] <nuu> heh
[05:58] <nuu> you haven't ?
[05:58] <Alarm> well i did log out when i did add alarm user in the plugdev only
[05:58] <Alarm> honestly i cant remember if i did restart again after i did comment out that line
[05:58] <nuu> Alarm: grep -i sda1 /etc/mtab
[05:58] <Alarm> let me restart
[05:58] <Alarm> no output
[05:59] <nuu> ok. try a reboot
[05:59] <nuu> see ya
[05:59] <Alarm> okie
[05:59] <Alarm> be back
[06:00] <kilrae_> anybody know the difference between the 'ati' and 'radeon' drivers?
[06:01] <Alarm> ok here i am
[06:01] <bipolar> kilrae: they are the same
[06:01] <Alarm> turn it on ?
[06:01] <bipolar> kilrae: afaik
[06:01] <nuu> yes Alarm
[06:01] <nuu> ah, before you do
[06:01] <nuu> sudo rmdir /media/win5 please :)
[06:02] <bipolar> kilrae: using 'ati' will load radeon if it detects a supported card
[06:02] <Alarm> same
[06:02] <aaroncampbell> Has anyone had problems printing from any specific applications?  Maybe Java based apps?  I can't seem to print from Zend Studio, but I can print from everything else I've tried.  It says "No Print Service Found"
[06:02] <bipolar> kilrae: again, afaik. I could be incorrect
[06:02] <nuu> try the rmdir
[06:02] <nuu> does it allow you to delete it ?
[06:02] <Alarm>  the /media/win5 is allready occupied
[06:02] <aaroncampbell> I have a support ticket into Zend, but they seemed unfamiliar with the issue, so I thought I'd ask here too
[06:02] <nuu> heh, this really looks like a busy mountpoint
[06:02] <nuu> yet mtab reports nothing
[06:02] <nuu> hmm
[06:02] <Alarm> ok did remove it
[06:03] <bipolar> kilrae: my laptop uses the 'ati' driver and it loads the 3d radeon support on my radeon 9000
[06:03] <nuu> ok, how ?
[06:03] <Alarm> i mean i removed the win5 dir
[06:03] <nuu> ok, try again
[06:04] <Alarm> nuu and i am sure i am not in that directory when i try to mount it
[06:04] <the_Un-Named> hello all, I got a small problem, I'm fine once I get it installed but my kubuntu feisty fawn(7.04) freezes at 63%, I can install xubuntu 6.06 fine though
[06:04] <Alarm> eheh now i got another error : could not enter folder /media/win5
[06:04] <nuu> would you please delete that /etc/fstab entry :)
[06:04] <nuu> remove the line completely
[06:04] <USMarine> the_Un-Named could the cd be damaged?
[06:04] <nuu> and retry
[06:05] <the_Un-Named> I've tried reburning the cd a few times and the md5 checksum is fine
[06:05] <nuu> i know this SHOULD NOT work, but at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if it did
[06:05] <pose> did somone know a good erp for linux?
[06:05] <USMarine> the_Un-Named i had some edgy problems when using the kubuntu cd, so i installed ubuntu and then migrated the desktop
[06:05] <kilrae> aha, i found it
[06:05] <llutz> hi
[06:05] <Alarm> ok back to the old classics now: mount point /media/win5 is allready occupied
[06:06] <nuu> is the directory there ?^
[06:06] <the_Un-Named> USMarine, I assume I should just install ubuntu then apt-get update?
[06:06] <Alarm> nuu not really
[06:06] <kilrae> ati is a loader for all ati cards, it detects your card and loads the proper driver for that series
[06:06] <nuu> grep -Ri win5 /etc/*
[06:06] <USMarine> the_Un-Named no, aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <nuu> anything jumping to the eye ?
[06:06] <the_Un-Named> ok thanks, I'll try it and post back in 2 weeks
[06:07] <Alarm> many permitions denied i see..
[06:08] <Alarm> but nothing with win5
[06:08] <nuu> ah, you're not logged in as root...put "sudo" in front of that line
[06:09] <nuu> also, plug the disk in, and do a sudo vol_id /dev/sda1
[06:09] <Alarm> nuu no return
[06:09] <just-this-time> !ntfs
[06:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:09] <Alarm> rockpc:/home/alarm# vol_id /dev/sda1
[06:09] <Alarm> bash: vol_id: command not found
[06:10] <nuu> sudo apt-get install volumeid
[06:10] <nuu> and retry
[06:10] <Alarm> now i will dissapoint u, i am on debian , and i dont see any volumeid in the repository
[06:11] <nuu> oh
[06:11] <[tUd] Pensacola> is it normal for the screensaver to work in preview but not when it's actually needed in 7.04?
[06:11] <acidBURN> anyone for help with netgear WG511T
[06:11] <Alarm> could i maybe have done something wrong when adding the user alarm in the plugdev group ?
[06:12] <nuu> type "groups"
[06:12] <llutz> acidBURN: works fine here with madwifi-ng driver (atheros-chipset)
[06:12] <Alarm> hold on. now there is a win5 directory in the /media  . a folder with the lock on it. like having not enough permition to enter
[06:12] <nuu> heh
[06:12] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ groups
[06:12] <Alarm> alarm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev powerdev
[06:12] <nuu> something is still creating that directory
[06:13] <Alarm> and thats the error i get: you do not have enough permitions to read file:///media/win5
[06:13] <nuu> ls -l /media/win5
[06:13] <nuu> what are the permissions and owner ?
[06:13] <Alarm> i did 1-2 mins ago with: mkdir /media/win5 && mount -a , but it didnt chance something
[06:13] <nuu> mount -a mounts whatever is in your fstab
[06:13] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ ls -l /media/win5
[06:13] <Alarm> ls: /media/win5: Permission denied
[06:14] <ahvargas> hi
[06:14] <Alarm> i guess as i must be root for that
[06:14] <nuu> heh
[06:14] <Yorokobi> Alarm, try sudo ls -ld /media/win5
[06:14] <ahvargas> anyone knows how to list targets in a makefile?
[06:14] <Alarm> rockpc:/home/alarm# ls -ld /media/win5
[06:14] <Alarm> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 2007-04-30 19:03 /media/win5
[06:14] <nuu> Alarm: ls -l /media | grep win5
[06:15] <nuu> no sudo
[06:15] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ ls -l /media | grep win5
[06:15] <Alarm> drwx------  2 root root   4096 2007-04-30 19:03 win5
[06:15] <Alarm> i know that if i will try pmount /dev/sda1 it will mount it without any problem, the problem starts when i turn it off and on again
[06:16] <nuu> Alarm: sudo chmod 755 /media/win5
[06:16] <Alarm> and for some reason it got stuck with the win5 dir
[06:16] <Alarm> ok did that
[06:16] <nuu> retry plugging the disk in
[06:16] <Alarm> okie ,
[06:17] <Alarm> the mount point /media/win5 is allready occupied
[06:17] <Alarm> feel like giving up nuu  ? :)
[06:17] <Alarm> rockpc:/home/alarm# umount /media/win5 ----- umount: /media/win5: not mounted
[06:17] <c1|freaky> hi all. how can i share a directory on my laptop (kubuntu) and make it accessible to a windows machine (samba) without the need of a password?
[06:17] <nuu> i'd like to rule out pmount though
[06:17] <nuu> before i give up
[06:18] <Alarm> :)
[06:18] <nuu> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win5
[06:18] <Alarm> okie done (beware nothing in the fstab)
[06:18] <Alarm> next ?
[06:18] <nuu> it mounted alright ??
[06:20] <Alarm> not really
[06:20] <Alarm> could not enter folder /media/win5
[06:20] <Alarm> although while mounting i didnt get any error
[06:20] <Alarm> plus , the win5 directory is again with the lock on it .
[06:20] <nuu> you mean, you can't enter it right now ?
[06:20] <nuu> but it's mounted ?
[06:20] <nuu> what does mount | grep win5 say ?
[06:20] <Alarm> while trying to enter, i dont have enough permition
[06:20] <ahvargas> anyone knows how to list targets in a makefile?? im usuing gnumake 3.81
[06:20] <lman_> hello.  How can I change konquorer settings so compressed files dont show up as folders in the navigation panel?
[06:20] <Alarm> /dev/sda1 on /media/win5 type ntfs (rw)
[06:21] <nuu> right, now sudo umount /media/win5
[06:21] <Alarm> ok done
[06:21] <ohmbr> hi, how do i upgrade my kubuntu to 7.04?
[06:21] <nuu> and again: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win5
[06:21] <nuu> without sudo
[06:21] <Alarm> the win5 dir,. also dissapeared
[06:21] <nuu> disappeared ?
[06:21] <nuu> hm
[06:21] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win5
[06:21] <Alarm> mount: only root can do that
[06:22] <nuu> ok, pmount /dev/sda1
[06:22] <ahvargas> ohmbr: wich version are you running?
[06:22] <Alarm> no win5 dir appeared. but when pressing on media:/ Movable icon i can get in
[06:22] <Alarm> "can"
[06:23] <ericsson> Does anyone know how to increase brightness of videos in Kaffeine during video playback? (right-click -> Increase brightness does not work)
[06:23] <nuu> good, pumount /dev/sda1 (while outside that dir in both gui and cmdline)
[06:23] <ohmbr> ahvargas: 6.06
[06:23] <llivne> hi guys
[06:23] <Alarm> ok did that
[06:23] <nuu> what'd it say ?
[06:23] <llivne> mind giving me a hand?
[06:23] <nuu> all fine ?
[06:23] <Alarm> yeap
[06:23] <Alarm> pumounted it
[06:24] <nuu> what does mount | grep sda1 say ?
[06:24] <llivne> whan i shut down from linux the pc stays on how do i fix that?
[06:24] <Alarm> no return
[06:24] <nuu> good, plug the disk out, then back in
[06:25] <Alarm> ok
[06:25] <Alarm> could not enter /media/win5
[06:25] <Pensacola> my screensaver doesn't work :'(
[06:25] <nuu> you're using kde ?
[06:26] <Alarm> kde
[06:26] <Pensacola> jep
[06:26] <llivne> guys a littile help here?
[06:26] <nuu> this looks to me like an issue with kde and its automounter wrapper gui
[06:27] <nuu> it's almost as if kde stores an obsolete copy of fstab somewhere
[06:27] <nuu> or perhaps just "remembers" old settings
[06:27] <nuu> and keeps on applying it when the automounter box pops up
[06:27] <nuu> as you can see, if you mount or pmount the disk, manually, the whole process works
[06:27] <Alarm> okie :) i will check later on on #debian as well
[06:27] <nuu> you can mount as normal user, so therefore pmount and the plugdev addage worked
[06:28] <Alarm> true
[06:28] <nuu> i can tell you this: your binaries arent wrong. it's something with the gui
[06:28] <nuu> granted
[06:28] <nuu> one last try, after you unplug the disk
[06:28] <Alarm> could be
[06:28] <nuu> plug it in, and tell kde not to do anything
[06:28] <Alarm> tell me
[06:28] <Alarm> ok
[06:28] <nuu> then from cmdline, sudo mount /dev/sda1
[06:28] <ohmbr> ahvargas: any ideias?
[06:28] <nuu> no mount point or fs type
[06:29] <Alarm> ok
[06:29] <nuu> if it says "not in fstab", then 100% is a kde issue
[06:29] <johny> Hello guys :D. Does anyone know what the last k3b version for kubuntu is, and where to find it?
[06:29] <nuu> as your fstab is clean, and recognized as such by mount
[06:29] <Alarm> rockpc:/home/alarm# mount /dev/sda1
[06:29] <Alarm> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/win5 busy
[06:29] <Alarm> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/win5
[06:29] <ahvargas> ohmbr:just run the adept manager
[06:29] <nuu> sudo umount /dev/sda1
[06:29] <nuu> first
[06:29] <ahvargas> and it will promt there is a new version
[06:29] <ahvargas> tell to downlaod and ther you go
[06:29] <nuu> and then sudo mount /dev/sda1
[06:30] <ahvargas> anoyone has experience with make command???
[06:30] <ohmbr> ahvargas: do i need backup any tinhg?
[06:30] <Alarm> thats what i did nuu
[06:30] <nuu> output from sudo mount | grep sda1 ?
[06:31] <Alarm> /dev/sda1 on /media/win5 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync)
[06:31] <nuu> k, it's still mounted
[06:31] <nuu> hm, wild try
[06:31] <nuu> switch to a termianl
[06:31] <nuu> terminal sorry
[06:31] <nuu> and try from there
[06:31] <nuu> same round of tests
[06:31] <nuu> unplug, plug, pmount, pumount, mount etc
[06:32] <Alarm> okie i will do the steps we did here
[06:32] <nuu> see if you notice any discrepancy
[06:32] <nuu> with what happened in kde
[06:32] <nuu> ok, off now
[06:32] <nuu> i'll ttyl :)
[06:32] <Alarm> okie
[06:32] <nuu> let me know if you find a solution
[06:32] <Alarm> thank you a lot for ur help and ur time :)
[06:32] <Alarm> i will be arround :)
[06:32] <nuu> later :)
[06:32] <Alarm> thanks once more
[06:32] <Alarm> bye
[06:33] <ahvargas> ohmbr: nope ,
[06:34] <ahvargas> ohmbr: you wil be just fine , but i will recomendo you to backup your sensible data
[06:34] <ahvargas> ahmbr: just for precaution :P
[06:35] <ohmbr> ahvargas: i'm running ltsp... do l backup this configuration files?
[06:36] <ahvargas> ohmbr: yes i will recomend that
[06:37] <ohmbr> ahvargas: ok... tks...
[06:37] <dennis_> hi! what can i do to watch .wmv files?
[06:37] <ubuntu> yo
[06:37] <ubuntu> yo peeps
[06:38] <dragan> how to recompile kernel and REMOVE SMP support?
[06:39] <llutz> dragan: deselect multiprocessor support (or install the -386 kernel)
[06:39] <dragan> llutz: is this available on DVD 7.04?
[06:40] <llutz> dragan: don't know, "apt-cache search" tells you
[06:40] <dragan> I have disabled support.. and now tryin g to recompiel
[06:40] <MajorApus> why would one of my hard drives not in use be randomly spinning up and seeking
[06:40] <llutz> dragan: why don't you use the -386-kernel?
[06:40] <ahvargas> ohmbr:ok no problem
[06:40] <dragan> now you tell me ;-)
[06:41] <dragan> can I use -686 ?
[06:41] <dragan> on amd turion 64b?
[06:41] <llutz> dragan: -686 is obseleted by -generic, i guess the -386 is the only one without smp
[06:42] <ahvargas> dragan: there is a very good guide in http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:42] <dragan> -386 is also absoleted by generis... at least adept says so
[06:42] <llutz> dragan: strange, i installed a -386 and it was missing smp-support here
[06:42] <ahvargas> dragan: i feel you anly need to run make menuconfig and select the options u need
[06:42] <Yorokobi> llutz, are you using Feisty?
[06:42] <llutz> Yorokobi: yes
[06:43] <dragan> will this fix wifi issue with feisty?
[06:43] <dragan> I got that BUG: .. something CPU#0 error
[06:43] <ahvargas> anyone knows ow to list targets in make??
[06:43] <maini10> Hello, someone knows how have to be triaged bug in KDE 3.5.6 with Kubuntu 6.10. Have that packages the same support for bugs.
[06:44] <just-this-time> \o
[06:44] <Dekans> does bcm43xx module manage 54MB ?
[06:44] <aaroncampbell> I'm working with Zend support for a problem with my Zend Studio, and they asked me to "export the path" from the console, and let them know what it was.  How do I do that
[06:45] <RytmenPinnen> !nvidia
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <just-this-time> want sda5 ntfs, mount readable by commonsystem user owned by root and permissions dr-x-------
[06:45] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, echo $PATH
[06:45] <just-this-time> !ntfs
[06:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:46] <aaroncampbell> thank Yorokobi
[06:46] <dragan> ahvargas: you think that with make menuconfig WITHOUT recompile new setting will work??
[06:47] <ahvargas> dragan: no u need to recompile
[06:48] <ahvargas> dragan: i was trying to say that u need to specify your opts
[06:49] <RytmenPinnen> "System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager" Doesnt excist
[06:49] <Jucato> RytmenPinnen: that only exists on Ubuntu (GNOME).
[06:49] <llutz> dragan: "linux-image-386 - Linux kernel image on 386"  not marked as being obsoleted here....
[06:50] <RytmenPinnen> right, where shall I get the drivers then
[06:50] <Yorokobi> llutz, dragan is using an AMD64 processor IIRC
[06:51] <llutz> Yorokobi: if he don't want SMP it makes no difference (afaik)
[06:51] <llutz> dragan: are you using 64bit-installation?
[06:51] <dragan> llutz: you are right... it is not obsolete.. was not looking close enough
[06:51] <dragan> no.. not 64b install
[06:52] <llutz> dragan: then -386 should be fine if you just want no SMP
[06:52] <dragan> and smp is bustin up my rt61 driver
[06:52] <dragan> installed .. now to test ;-)
[06:53] <RytmenPinnen> !nvidia
[06:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <stoft> I want to deinstall my old kernels (2.6.12 and 2.6.15), I suppose it's just "apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.12...", but anything I should think about/worry about?
[06:54] <dragan> yeah baby!
[06:54] <FireTalon> is it safe to apt-get the new test release of kde 4?
[06:54] <Yorokobi> stoft, you can't purge the kernel you're system is using. You'll have to install another kernel, boot to it, then purge the other images.
[06:54] <dragan> 10x llutz.. I am new at debian compile... kernel issues at all.. was used to do it by hand..
[06:55] <dragan> now rt61 works
[06:55] <dragan> 10x again.. bye
[06:55] <malik__> how do i enable display pic in kopete?
[06:55] <stoft> Yorokobi: I'm on feisty, running 2.6.20. the others are from previous versions of (k)ubuntu
[06:56] <just-this-time> root owns sda5 and root is disabled
[06:56] <Yorokobi> stoft, then you shouldn't have a problem purging them
[06:56] <stoft> Yorokobi: ty
[06:56] <just-this-time> can sudo fix permissions for ntfs mounting ?
[06:57] <stoft> just-this-time: have you already read the ntfs guides?
[06:57] <just-this-time> stoft where ?
[06:57] <stoft> !ntfs | just-this-time
[06:57] <ubotu> just-this-time: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:57] <just-this-time> stoft where ?
[06:57] <stoft> !ntfs-3g | just-this-time
[06:57] <ubotu> just-this-time: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:58] <just-this-time> stoft the first yes not so comprehensive
[06:58] <phratman> Hey all, out of curiosity, is there any way around this?
[06:58] <just-this-time> joined user to fuse group
[06:58] <phratman> ssh user@server 'sudo command' will demand that I enter a password twice.
[06:59] <Yorokobi> phratman, ssh -t ...
[06:59] <just-this-time> but sda5 is permitted only to owner and root is not enabled on ubuntu
[06:59] <phratman> The first password, obviously, is to allow me access to the machine.
[06:59] <phratman> The second time however, it asks for what to feed sudo and then it displays my password in *cleartext*! Emphasis on the cleartext.
[06:59] <Yorokobi> phratman, ssh -t user@host "sudo command"
[07:00] <stoft> just-this-time: root is not enabled as an account, but you can "become" using "sudo"
[07:00] <stoft> !root
[07:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <phratman> Yorokobi: Ah, cool.
[07:00] <atidem> !it
[07:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:01] <kilrae> oooh, full speed video playback
[07:01] <just-this-time> whaaat is .hal-mtab-lock  in /media folder ?
[07:01] <phratman> Yorokobi: Thanks, that's just what I was looking for.
[07:01] <Yorokobi> phratman, np
[07:01] <Pollywog> my vid card is Geforce 7600GS, should I be using the "new" nvidia packages in Feisty?
[07:02] <stoft> just-this-time: I'm guessing it's a lock file created by hald (hardware abstraction layer daemon)
[07:02] <Pollywog> it is a PNY Verto
[07:02] <stoft> just-this-time: I would leave it alone
[07:02] <just-this-time> you on feisty stoft?
[07:02] <stoft> just-this-time: yes
[07:02] <djdarkman> how can  set a proceses priority to low?
[07:02] <acemo> is there any way to make a program start in maximized mode when i start it from Kmenu?
[07:02] <just-this-time> and have some ntfs to mount stoft ?
[07:02] <llutz> djdarkman: renice
[07:02] <Yorokobi> Pollywog, its up to you. The -new on will work. I use it for my 6200
[07:03] <Pollywog> will the plain nvldia-glx work in Feisty?
[07:03] <stoft> just-this-time: ntfs mounted yes
[07:03] <RytmenPinnen> How do I install nvidia drivers? I tried !nvidia but it says I need the restricted driver manager wich I just heard doesnt excist in kubuntu
[07:03] <Pollywog> I use a generic kernel
[07:03] <blekos> i've changed the su psswd but when i run adept manager i still have to enter user's psswd
[07:03] <RytmenPinnen> They dont seem to excist in the adept manager either
[07:04] <just-this-time> stoftf can you pls check permisions on folder containing mounted ntfs ?
[07:04] <stoft> blekos: the su password? sudo asks for your user password
[07:04] <Pollywog> Yorokobi: ty
[07:04] <just-this-time> mine is sda5 and is dr-x-------- stoft
[07:04] <stoft> just-this-time: root, but that's the way I want it
[07:04] <stoft> just-this-time: same here
[07:04] <acemo> RytmenPinnen: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[07:04] <just-this-time> ok what about group permissions
[07:04] <stoft> just-this-time: same. what is it you want to do?
[07:05] <just-this-time> so how does the common user use ntfs
[07:05] <just-this-time> read only
[07:05] <Pollywog> anyone know when the vmware issue will get fixed?  I updated to vmware workstation 5.4 yesterday but still can't run vmweare with Feisty
[07:05] <just-this-time> use kxmame from ubuntu
[07:06] <stoft> just-this-time: see, now that was what the ntfs-3g guide was for ;)
[07:06] <just-this-time> stoft roms are on ntfs partition readonly is ok
[07:06] <djdarkman> isn``t there a lower priority then 0?
[07:06] <stoft> !ntfs-3g | just-this-time
[07:06] <ubotu> just-this-time: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:06] <just-this-time> no write stoft
[07:06] <djdarkman> I`m compliing something and it realy eats my resources
[07:06] <just-this-time> no need
[07:06] <just-this-time> read is enough
[07:07] <llutz> djdarkman: +20
[07:07] <just-this-time> ty anyway
[07:08] <stoft> just-this-time: iirc by default, if you don't use the ntfs-3g driver your ntfs partitions will be set read-only for user root and no one else. I suggest trying the ntfs-3g driver and see if it permits other users to read.
[07:08] <djdarkman> it`s slows my system ,what other method is therre to slow down a program?
[07:09] <epimeth> oh come on!  I have to install the windows version of firefox to get shockwave working?
[07:10] <Yorokobi> epimeth, no you don't.
[07:10] <epimeth> yay!
[07:10] <epimeth> you're about to say I can use ies4linux, aren't you?  I'm actually about to do just that :-)
[07:11] <Yorokobi> epimeth, you can install the flash player from the adobe website, and/or the gnash mozilla plugin from the repos (or the flashplayer from the repos).
[07:11] <franz> hi
[07:11] <just-this-time> ok
[07:11] <epimeth> not flash, shockwave....
[07:12] <epimeth> Yorokobi: http://www.addictinggames.com/dailyjigsaw.html - an example
[07:12] <Yorokobi> the flash plugin provides shockwave
[07:13] <johny> Hello guys :D. Does anyone know what the last k3b version for kubuntu is, and where to find it?
[07:13] <just-this-time> in ntfs-config  -> Enable write support for internal device will be selected by default. Click OK. is grayed on system
[07:14] <djdarkman> johny: sudo apt-get instaall k3b
[07:14] <Jucato> johny: k3b 1.0 (the latest and stable release) is on feisty
[07:14] <djdarkman> *install
[07:14] <Jucato> k3b is always installed by default on any Kubuntu release
[07:14] <johny> Jucato: hello
[07:14] <Jucato> hello
[07:14] <stoft> just-this-time: hang on, let me take a peek
[07:14] <just-this-time> k
[07:15] <johny> Jucato: but the last released version seems to be 1.01 which isn't in the repos..
[07:15] <epimeth> Yorokobi: so why isn't the juzzle game working for me, but regular flash is fine?
[07:15] <Jucato> ah yeah... 1.0.1 didn't make it. I think it was released a few weeks after 1.0 was
[07:16] <johny> Jucato: Will it be included in the repositories?
[07:16] <Jucato> johny: that really depends. I haven't heard about it yet, but it might be available as an update
[07:17] <RytmenPinnen> um, my glx gears broke when i installed nvidia drivers with sudo apt get so now I cant test if it was succesful
[07:18] <johny> Jucato: Ok , that's all I wanted to know. Thank you, as always -:D
[07:19] <epimeth> Jucato: know anything about shockwave?  the regular flash plugin isn't doing it for me :-)
[07:19] <Jucato> epimeth: hm... not really...
[07:19] <aleksanteri> hey
[07:20] <epimeth> Jucato: cheers anyway
[07:20] <aleksanteri> my kbfx doesn't seem to do anything on my start menu, how can i "activate" it?
[07:22] <atidem> reboot
[07:22] <stoft> just-this-time: ok, think I figured it out now. "sudo umount" your ntfs drive, open ntfs config tool, don't check the checkboxes. the partition will be mounted "dr-xr-xr-x"
[07:24] <luca> good day to everyone
[07:24] <franky_> hi! i'd like to install superkaramba on kubuntu...i wanted to ask if it is necessary to download it from the web (tnx very much for the attention and sorry for the stupid questio)
[07:24] <korobase> How to search a channel in a irc?
[07:24] <korobase> How to search a channel in an irc?
[07:24] <aleksanteri> korobase: /list <pattern>
[07:24] <posingaspopular> korobase: what are you looking for?
[07:25] <aleksanteri> oh
[07:25] <aleksanteri> !ot | korobase
[07:25] <luca> franky_ : open your adept_installer and select superkaramba for install (you will need to download it, but the program will do everything automatically)
[07:25] <ubotu> korobase: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:25] <korobase> I want to search a channel about nexuiz
[07:25] <Jucato> korobase: Window -> Channel List (in Konversation)
[07:25] <aleksanteri> ah XD
[07:25] <olimpico> Does someone knows how to make the bash.bashrc be loaded autmatically when connectin through ssh?
[07:25] <stoft> franky_: apt-get install superkaramba
[07:25] <aleksanteri> lol i'm such a !@#%&
[07:25] <luca> can someone help me set correctly the Bus ID PCI for an NVIDIA 7300 integrated card?
[07:25] <franky_> luca tnx very much
[07:25] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[07:25] <luca> frankY_ np :D
[07:25] <aleksanteri> my kbfx doesn't seem to do anything on my start menu, how can i "activate" it?
[07:26] <Yorokobi> olimpico, the /etc/bash.bashrc?
[07:26] <luca> aleksanteri open your add applet window (right click on panel) and add kbfx to your panel
[07:26] <aleksanteri> cool, thx :)
[07:27] <RytmenPinnen> Help!
[07:27] <luca> np
[07:27] <RytmenPinnen> I choose to use property drivers and now my resultuion is max 640
[07:27] <Yorokobi> olimpico, 'sudo echo ". /etc/bash.bashrc" >> /etc/login.defs' might work
[07:27] <olimpico> Yorokobi: You know to overwrite the PS1
[07:28] <Yorokobi> olimpico, or simply set PS1 in /etc/login.defs
[07:28] <olimpico> Well, I think, this is done by the /etc/profile
[07:28] <aleksanteri> hmm now i can't move the kfbx kicker into place :/
[07:28] <olimpico> Yorokobi: Well, I think, this is done by the /etc/profile
[07:29] <Yorokobi> olimpico, it might be ... *shrug* its been a while since I looked at the bash login procedure
[07:29] <olimpico> Yorokobi: Thr problem is that it's not working when I connect through ssh
[07:29] <Yorokobi> olimpico, it should work if you set it in ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.bash_profile
[07:29] <olimpico> Yorokobi: the /etc/bash.bashrc in ubuntu, is called by the /etc/profile
[07:29] <RytmenPinnen> help
[07:30] <RytmenPinnen> changing back to regular drivers didnt hekp
[07:30] <RytmenPinnen> I have restarded x
[07:31] <bbeck_> Has anyone been able to get window decorations to appear when using beryl?
[07:31] <RytmenPinnen> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:31] <Yorokobi> bbeck_, emerald or aquamarine decorations ?
[07:31] <bbeck_> I've tried both, but neither seem to appear.
[07:32] <olimpico> Yorokobi: What will that be the difference?
[07:32] <Yorokobi> olimpico, between .bashrc and .bash_profile?
[07:32] <olimpico> it all works fine, if I type: source /etc/profile
[07:32] <RytmenPinnen> My resoltion is stuck on 640x 480 when I installed nvidia drivers
[07:33] <olimpico> Yorokobi: it all works fine, if I type: source /etc/profile, the problem is that it's not being called autmatically when I connect with ssh.
[07:33] <olimpico> Yorokobi: I don't think that making a ~/.bashrc will make a difference, do you?
[07:34] <RytmenPinnen> How do II fix this? its impossible to google for something at this resolution
[07:35] <Yorokobi> olimpico, .bashrc and .bash_profile should both be read during a login shell invocation.
[07:35] <olimpico> OK!! That did the trick!! You were right! Thanks!
[07:35] <Yorokobi> olimpico, you're welcome
[07:36] <RytmenPinnen> Helo?
[07:36] <Yorokobi> !fixres | RytmenPinnen
[07:36] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:37] <victor__> Hi!
[07:37] <victor__> someone can help me
[07:38] <victor__> generic kernel freezes randomly
[07:38] <victor__> i am whith feisty
[07:38] <victor__> with
[07:38] <victor__> T_T
[07:39] <victor__> i want to change to kenel i385 instead of generic but each timi i try it freezes
[07:40] <victor__> also i have been searching in howtos
[07:41] <RytmenPinnen> !fixresu
[07:41] <victor__> but nothin works
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <RytmenPinnen> I tried that restart x window command and the whole system when black
[07:41] <Jucato> !xconfig
[07:41] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[07:41] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[07:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <victor__> adept freezas allways
[07:43] <victor__> http://www.getautomatix.com/ is down
[07:44] <victor__> T_T
[07:45] <niosop> morning.  I'm trying to install kubuntu onto a linux raid system.  Have md0 (raid 1) for boot and md1 (raid 0) for the rest.  The kubuntu installer partition editor doesn't allow me to select the md devices though.  Any suggestions?
[07:45] <stoft> just-this-time: you around?
[07:48] <niosop> or do I have to go w/ the alternate cd?
[07:48] <RytmenPinnen> why doesnt my password work when I try to log as root in the konsol?
[07:48] <Jucato> RytmenPinnen: because there is no root password (root account disabled), so you don't really log in as root
[07:48] <RytmenPinnen> I have to change permission on the xorg.conf file to edit it but I cant save cause its write protected
[07:48] <Jucato> no don't change permissions of system-owned files
[07:48] <epimeth> RytmenPinnen: you log in as yourself and then use sudo -i
[07:48] <Jucato> use sudo (or kdesu) to edit files
[07:49] <Jucato> !sudo | RytmenPinnen
[07:49] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:49] <epimeth> and Jucato is right, you don't change permissions of system files
[07:51] <RytmenPinnen> how do I change permission in the konsol?
[07:51] <RytmenPinnen> ah ok
[07:51] <RytmenPinnen> but how am I supposed to fix this resolution problem then
[07:51] <niosop> RytmenPinnen: You can become root by using "sudo bash" if you're going to be doing a lot and don't want to type sudo each time
[07:52] <victor__> my kubuntu still freezing
[07:52] <Jucato> did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg already?
[07:52] <Jucato> niosop: "sudo -i" is a more proper way
[07:52] <RytmenPinnen> I believe that was what made my screen go black
[07:52] <niosop> Jucato: ahh, cool, never know about htat one.
[07:52] <victor__> less than 5 min betrwwn each freeze logs says nothing
[07:53] <tuco> I need help to have system tray icons displayed again please!
[07:53] <victor__> konkeror freezes it an adept too
[07:53] <victor__> heeelp
[07:53] <Jucato> tuco: what do you mean? the whole panel disappeared or only the system tray applet for the panel?
[07:54] <sadnezz> k
[07:55] <tuco> Basically let's say you open amarok...there should be a little icon on the left in the system tray. It isn't there, same for any other application!
[07:55] <Jucato> tuco: ah but you still have your kicker? (kde panel). right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> look for System Tray
[07:56] <mahdi> victor_: try loading an older kernel
[07:56] <victor__> how do i change my kernel, adept locks up my pc
[07:56] <tuco> No system tray!
[07:56] <RytmenPinnen> is it easier to reinstall kubuntu than trying to fix the reusulution problem?
[07:56] <BluesKaj> hiya Jucato :)
[07:56] <mahdi> victor_: do you have a grub menu on boot up?
[07:56] <Jucato> hi BluesKaj
[07:56] <victor__> yes i have grtub
[07:56] <victor__> grub
[07:56] <RytmenPinnen> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailab
[07:56] <Jucato> RytmenPinnen: easier? maybe... but what would happen if you encounter the same problem again? :(
[07:57] <tuco> dock application bar/kasbar/external taskbar/panel/universal sidebar
[07:57] <tuco> no system tray Jucato
[07:57] <Jucato> tuco: no, Add Applet to Panel, not Add Panel
[07:57] <victor__> i tried to use noacpi nolacpi and pci=assign-busses
[07:57] <RytmenPinnen> but how do I fix it, so far I've only been led to dead ends
[07:57] <mahdi> victor_: select an older kernel version when grub comes up, there should be at least one if you scroll down
[07:58] <Jucato> tuco: the first from the top when you right-click on the panel. it will launch a dialog box with a list of available panel applets
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[07:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:58] <tuco> Aaaaaaaaaaaaah ok done :-)
[07:58] <BluesKaj> Jucato: got a bit of a configure prob ...here's the error , trying to install xtracroute , http://www.pastebin.ca/465891
[07:58] <tuco> Thank you sir ;-)
[07:58] <victor__> i only have generic and save mode
[07:58] <victor__> in eneric
[07:58] <victor__> generic
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> "Run the Autodetect Script Again"
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> does this work for 7.04?
[07:58] <mahdi> try safe mode, worth a shot. wish i could help more but i'm off to class.
[07:58] <RytmenPinnen> it says its for dapper
[07:59] <ToTe_-> ola?
[07:59] <victor__> ola!
[07:59] <Jucato> BluesKaj: try looking for a libgtk package that ends in -dev.. not really sure with the name
[07:59] <Dekans> does bcm43xx module manage 54MB ??
[08:01] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[08:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:02] <Dekans> does bcm43xx module manage 54MB ??
[08:03] <RytmenPinnen> could someone please get into a private chat with me, I'm getting frustrated with this resuproblem
[08:06] <BinBus> hello
[08:06] <BinBus> we have a hamlet router?
[08:07] <RytmenPinnen> help me please
[08:08] <jmoro> who here needs help and with what?
[08:09] <ubuntu> why do you use KDE, is it better than gnome?
[08:09] <RytmenPinnen> I need help with the resolution
[08:10] <Xbehave> kde locks up when i transferd more than about 500mb to my uss mp3 player? is this kde specific or is it a kernal prob im not sure
[08:10] <llutz> ubuntu: it's different, so it's up to you what you use
[08:10] <Xbehave> kde lets me configure everything i want in gnome it was too hard for me
[08:10] <mueslix> ubuntu: it's just different i'd say. better depends on the user
[08:11] <ubuntu> thx, i will use in future KDE too, because it looks much nicer
[08:11] <mueslix> when it comes to the api, the answer might be a different one tho
[08:11] <Xbehave> ubuntu you can install both without much hassel
[08:12] <Xbehave> hell my 1st ubuntu install had xfce, gnome and kde, but now i stick to kde w/ beryl
[08:12] <RytmenPinnen> does the same grafic hassle excist in ubuntu?
[08:12] <RytmenPinnen> ala stuck on 640x480
[08:13] <Xbehave> what are you running? laptop? intell grafics?
[08:13] <RytmenPinnen> nvidia fx5900
[08:14] <farmhand00000001> Hello all, I was wondering if someone could recomend a good sound card that will be fully compatible with kubuntu 7.04?  Dont need anything too fancy, just for MP3s and playing warcraft 3
[08:14] <RytmenPinnen> I installed nvidia drivers with apt get, I dont know if it was succesful but my glxgears broke so Im couldnt check my fps
[08:14] <RytmenPinnen> then I tried to set to propierty drivers and then this happened
[08:15] <RytmenPinnen> I also tried to set it back to the regular drivers but I'm still stuck on low resu
[08:15] <Xbehave> try restoring your xorg.conf if you have any backups
[08:16] <RytmenPinnen> how would I do that?
[08:16] <Xbehave> open a konsole, cd /etc/X11/
[08:16] <neo_> Hi
[08:16] <RytmenPinnen> as far as I know I dont have any backups
[08:16] <Xbehave> then see if there is mroe than 1 file starting with xorg.conf
[08:17] <Xbehave> nvidia try to make a backup when they set stuff up
[08:17] <farmhand01> if you check your /etc/X11 dir, see if you have any files called xorg.conf.something
[08:17] <RytmenPinnen> yes there is one called xorg.conf.2
[08:17] <farmhand01> that is prob the backup
[08:17] <RytmenPinnen> and a .1 and a .custom
[08:18] <stoft> where do I put the niceness when running nice?
[08:18] <RytmenPinnen> so I'll just remove the original and rename the .1 ?
[08:18] <Xbehave> try cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.0 to backup your current incase it gets worse
[08:18] <farmhand01> agreed
[08:19] <jovans> my konqueror crash everytime when i want to open my Home Folder
[08:19] <farmhand01> can it open anything else?
[08:19] <Xbehave> javans does it try launching loads of konqs
[08:19] <RytmenPinnen> how do I replace it btw? it says acces denied in konqeror
[08:20] <farmhand01> you need to sudo
[08:20] <jovans> i don't know
[08:20] <stoft> nm, think I got.
[08:20] <Xbehave> RytmenPinnen: open up a console and do it though there
[08:20] <jovans> and the next time when i am trying to open my Home Folder nothing....when i am starting Konwuerer once again than works
[08:21] <RytmenPinnen> sudo what?
[08:23] <Xbehave> in console go to /etc/X11 with cd then type sudo xp xorg.conf xorg.conf.0 then sudo cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf
[08:23] <RytmenPinnen> what does xp do?
[08:24] <Xbehave> sorry i meant to put cp
[08:25] <RytmenPinnen> ok do I have to restart something too?
[08:25] <Xbehave> once thats done ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:25] <RytmenPinnen> ah the old x restart
[08:26] <RytmenPinnen> thank you thank you thank you
[08:26] <Xbehave> any improvment?
[08:26] <CaseyOmah> How do I set Alt_R ro mod1 along with Alt_L (the default)?
[08:26] <RytmenPinnen> my resolution is back :) I still dont know if I have any real drivers tho
[08:27] <Xbehave> i think youll be on the non-nvidia ones with an old xorg conf
[08:28] <RytmenPinnen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18445/
[08:28] <dawson> Hello, I have just upgraded to fiesty fawn, and now can not conenct to the internet, can connect to network, but not recieve an ip address. Also kubuntu now hangs on shutdown, any suggestions/ help greatly recieved. Thanks a lot!
[08:28] <CaseyOmah> I'm trying to setup my keyboard, and am annoyed that the default for mod1 (Alt) is Alt_L only, how do I also map Alt_R to mod1?
[08:28] <RytmenPinnen> probably, but what happened to my glxgears, they worked earlier
[08:29] <farmhand01> Dawson, it is not possible to connect to your network and not have an IPaddress
[08:30] <BluesKaj> anyone having ktorrent crash probs ? ...mine was crashing just once / hr , now its up to 10mins
[08:30] <dawson> yea, but according to wifi radar it is connected but fails to issue an ip
[08:30] <CaseyOmah> BluesKaj: I have noticed the instability in Ktorrent too.
[08:30] <farmhand01> oh, didnt know you were having a wfi problem, I know nothing about that
[08:31] <dawson> ah ok, sorry i should have said. Thanks anyways
[08:32] <CaseyOmah> BluesKaj: I gave up on Ktorrent as a download ap, and switched to Opera's implementation of torrents and only use Ktorrent for the built-in search.
[08:32] <BluesKaj> CaseyOmah: I don't see any bug reports at ; https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems, so I guess we're stuck til they find the prob ...I reported it twice already
[08:33] <BluesKaj> right CaseyOmah , looks like the logical alternative alright , asureus is buggy as well from all reports
[08:33] <CaseyOmah> Opera implementation is to download the .torrent file into the "torrent root" directory and then download the contents.
[08:34] <CaseyOmah> So you can use Ktorrent to download the .torrent and Opera to open it in place. (point back to the same path)
[08:35] <CaseyOmah> Opera 9.20 is stable, 9.10 was crash-happy on Feisty.
[08:35] <adz21c> anyone have any experience with DVB cards as I am struggling to get mine working
[08:36] <BluesKaj> ok, CaseyOmah , I've used the embedded torrent client in Opera before ...seems ok
[08:36] <CaseyOmah> BluesKaj: I've been an Opera fan for a while and was mad when Feisty made 9.10 crashy.
[08:37] <BluesKaj> <--- would never be accused of being an opera fan :)
[08:38] <CaseyOmah> Does anyone know of a way to remat your mod keys? I need to add Alt_R to the mod1 "Alt" (Alt_L) mapping.
[08:38] <BluesKaj> the browser yes, but not the music
[08:38] <CaseyOmah> BluesKaj: I'm not big into the Operetic genre either.
[08:40] <nicu> hi
[08:40] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[08:40] <CaseyOmah> Hello nicu.
[08:40] <czer323> Can someone else just try to run khotkeys from a terminal real quick and tell me if it crashes?  Standard kubuntu 7.04 install.
[08:41] <nicu> am i new to kubuntu....and i want to ask you where is the contro panel...where can ai change the skin...it is there in any other kde based distro i tried bu tnot here
[08:41] <nicu> ?
[08:41] <CaseyOmah> czer323: ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[08:41] <K-Ryan> Press the KDE menu button, then system settings nicu
[08:41] <czer323> CaseyOmah: thanks, mine too. :-\  I'll submit a bug report.
[08:41] <nicu> did it
[08:41] <K-Ryan> That's the "control panel"
[08:41] <K-Ryan> If you then click Appearance, you can change themes
[08:42] <CaseyOmah> nicu: It's called "System Settings"
[08:42] <nicu> i have no contro panel
[08:42] <K-Ryan> It's not a control panel
[08:42] <nicu> i saw it
[08:42] <K-Ryan> It's just called system settings
[08:42] <CaseyOmah> nicu: Often referred to as "Control Panel".
[08:43] <nicu> when i open it i get a screen where i get personal/look&fell/computer admin...and stuff like that
[08:43] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:43] <K-Ryan> Under each section there are icons.
[08:43] <K-Ryan> You're in the right place.
[08:44] <CaseyOmah> nicu: That's not a question.
[08:44] <nicu> when i ckic appearence from look&feel  i get al there is to be there expt themes like in other kde distros
[08:44] <K-Ryan> Once you click Appearance, it's on Colors by default
[08:44] <K-Ryan> In the middle of that window there is a list of themes labeled "Color Scheme"
[08:44] <nicu> yes
[08:44] <WillLuong1> is there a way to change permissions for a folder and everything in it (even subfolders)
[08:45] <K-Ryan> You can scroll through those, preview them up top, and click Apply to set it.
[08:45] <nicu> i know that
[08:45] <CaseyOmah> nicu: Under Appearance & Themes you can select the "Theme Manager" (In Feisty release)
[08:45] <nicu> but if i want to change the theme
[08:45] <nicu> aha
[08:45] <nicu> i'll check it now
[08:46] <K-Ryan> That's how you would go about changing your theme.
[08:46] <K-Ryan> And the "Control Panel" is just the "System Settings"
[08:46] <czer323> Does Kubuntu use the Launchpad for bugs?
[08:46] <pauljw> WillLuong1: right click the folder in konqueror and change the permissions
[08:47] <pauljw> under properties, WillLuong1
[08:47] <WillLuong1> pauljw thanks
[08:47] <pauljw> yw
[08:54] <RytmenPinnen> ok, I see I have the nvidia drivers but I cant enable them for some reason
[08:54] <RytmenPinnen> alex@ladan:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:54] <RytmenPinnen> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:56] <sdlnxgk> Hello Everyone !!
[08:56] <sdlnxgk> anyone know why kubuntu only sees 240gigs  out of 250gig drive??
[08:57] <RytmenPinnen> I believe that's not ubuntu related
[08:58] <RytmenPinnen> it has something to do with that one megabyte isnt 1000kb its 1024kb
[08:58] <sdlnxgk> why wouldn't be?? in dmesg it says 250gig sata drive but when formatted it's 238gigs
[08:58] <budluva_> anyone aware of plans to include kickoff in the repos?
[08:59] <K-Ryan> Hey I just realized my trash can isn't on my bottom bar anymore. Where did it go and how can I put it back there?
[08:59] <sdlnxgk> RytmenPinnen, so your saying i'm gonna loose 10 gigs on each drive?
[08:59] <RytmenPinnen> not really
[08:59] <sdlnxgk> maybe I formatted it wrong..
[08:59] <RytmenPinnen> it should say the same in windows
[08:59] <sdlnxgk> I used qparted
[09:00] <K-Ryan> sdlnxgk: It's advertised as 250?
[09:00] <budluva_> sdlnxgk: its advertised as a 250GB drive doesnt mean when formatted you'll actually have 250
[09:00] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan, yes in dmesg it says 250gig
[09:00] <budluva_> 240 seems about right
[09:00] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure what the reason behind it is, but you always lose about 10GB off what
[09:00] <K-Ryan> is advertised.
[09:00] <RytmenPinnen> my 120gig hdd is only 115 or something
[09:00] <K-Ryan> My 160GB holds about 149GB
[09:00] <budluva_> my 500gb drive formatted and partitioned only works out to about 480
[09:00] <sdlnxgk> oh then i'm paranoid for nothing ;)
[09:01] <K-Ryan> My 250GB external held about 235GB
[09:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's just one of those things.
[09:01] <RytmenPinnen> it has to do with bits and bytes
[09:01] <Yorokobi> You lose more if you use RAID, too :)
[09:01] <K-Ryan> Not really RytmenPinnen
[09:01] <sdlnxgk> I was freaking big  time going like WTF!!
[09:01] <K-Ryan> Thought they jipped ya'? =P
[09:01] <sdlnxgk> ok next question
[09:01] <K-Ryan> Shoot
[09:02] <sdlnxgk> should I do a fresh install on my new 250gig sata drive or put my old hard drives in with it and use as is?
[09:02] <francisco> hola
[09:02] <K-Ryan> What do you mean?
[09:02] <tinux> quit
[09:02] <budluva_> i would install on the new sata drive over older an older drive
[09:02] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan, yes I thought they jipped me :)
[09:03] <budluva_> thats just me though
[09:03] <K-Ryan> Well I mean, how old is the drive and how big is it?
[09:03] <sdlnxgk> I have a 10gig HHD with kubuntu installed on it and 2x 60gig drives with downloads on it
[09:03] <K-Ryan> Personally, as long as it works and you don't mind the speed difference, leave it.
[09:03] <whta> does rosegarden come default with the kubuntu-desktop package?
[09:04] <K-Ryan> rosegarden, I don't have it so probably not.
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> never ran sata with linux before so was kind of scared to just have the sate drive
[09:04] <whta> ok. just wondering since I installed it on gnome before i installed KDE and now I have 2 rosegarden entries under multimedia
[09:04] <K-Ryan> Hmm, go figure.
[09:04] <K-Ryan> You can try removing one
[09:04] <sdlnxgk> what is the best way to partition a drive
[09:05] <K-Ryan> I'm told Gnome Partitioner
[09:05] <budluva_> sdlnxgk: gparted?
[09:05] <FireTalon> cfdisk
[09:05] <K-Ryan> Personally I use the partioner off the Live CD I have
[09:05] <sdlnxgk> ok letme me rephrase the ? what is the easiest  way to format a drive in kubunut :)
[09:06] <FireTalon> cfdisk
[09:06] <K-Ryan> I've only done it off the Live CD, and that worked nice and quickly for me.
[09:06] <CaseyOmah> Does anyone know of a way to remat your mod keys? I need to add Alt_R to the mod1 "Alt" (Alt_L) mapping.
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Took only a few minutes and I didn't and don't have any problems.
[09:06] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan, how do I run it off the live cdrom?
[09:07] <BluesKaj> yeah , formatting during an install works well, then one can use GParted live cd as well
[09:07] <K-Ryan> As if you were going to install Kubuntu.
[09:07] <K-Ryan> But stop after you partition.
[09:07] <sdlnxgk> sounds easy enough let me transfer some documents then start the install of fresh copy of Kubuntu :)
[09:07] <K-Ryan> No no
[09:08] <K-Ryan> You don't have to reinstall
[09:08] <K-Ryan> You just start the install, and quit it after you partition what you want partitioned.
[09:08] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan,  yes I do don't have anything on the sata drives yet ;)
[09:08] <BluesKaj> well frankly i misss edgy , ...feisty seems to be seriously broken in some areas
[09:08] <sdlnxgk> this is still  my old drive
[09:08] <K-Ryan> Oh you are going to switch to it, alright then.
[09:08] <sdlnxgk> lol
[09:08] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: What's broken? I haven't had any issues.
[09:08] <sdlnxgk> :D
[09:09] <CaseyOmah> BluesKaj: Yeah, Feisty needs a few things to go back to Herds.
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan, thanks for your help
[09:09] <stoft> BluesKaj: I have to agree with K-Ryan, no major issues here either
[09:09] <K-Ryan> sdlnxgk, no problem, be sure to let me know how it goes.
[09:09] <sdlnxgk> RytmenPinnen, thanks for your help will be back after the install ;)
[09:09] <BluesKaj> I have GTK probs with configure and make ... also theres QT probs with ktorrent
[09:10] <CaseyOmah> stoft, K-Ryan: Have you tried Ktorrent?
[09:10] <K-Ryan> Nope
[09:10] <stoft> nope, don't like it.  use azureus if anything.
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> haven't had a single issue with ktorrent...
[09:10] <sdlnxgk> K-Ryan, i'll be back as soon as it's done installing ;)
[09:10] <budluva_> only issue i have with fiesty, well with linux in general is my blooody broadcom wireless, pain in the arse
[09:10] <K-Ryan> I don't need to torrent, 2MB/s ISP
[09:10] <K-Ryan> =)
[09:10] <BluesKaj> azureus ...hawg gawd
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> azureus reams resources
[09:11] <Black_Cat> greetings.
[09:11] <stoft> either that, cli client or qtorrent. I use torrents so rarely that it's not something I notice.
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Anyone know if I can setup my Xbox 360 controller to work under Kubuntu?
[09:11] <BluesKaj> bbiab .... gotta send my income tax ...today's the deadline here
[09:12] <CaseyOmah> K-Ryan: I haven't tried an Xbox 360 Controller, but my PS2 controller works great with my USB adapter.
[09:12] <K-Ryan> Can you get both thumbsticks working?
[09:13] <dice14u> hey anyone I have two questions, i just updated to fiesty and it caused an audio issue
[09:13] <dice14u> pc speakers used to be my audio control
[09:13] <dice14u> now something called pcm is
[09:13] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: as long as it's an OFFICIAL 360 controller, you probably can use it
[09:13] <CaseyOmah> K-Ryan: Everything works perfectly, both analogs, R/L 1,2,3(click analog) XO/\[]  and Hat (Digital) all work.
[09:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i know my 3rd party wired is useless :\
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: What brand? My MadCatz works under Windows with those drivers.
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Haven't tested it on Kubuntu though.
[09:14] <K-Ryan> I'm worried about the right thumbstick(secondary axis) and the triggers.
[09:14] <K-Ryan> Because they function as axis rather than buttons.
[09:14] <K-Ryan> So that's 4 axis inputs.
[09:15] <dice14u> anyone have a new sound channel in fiesty?
[09:15] <CaseyOmah> K-Ryan: Yes, I have 4 axis plus hat and 12 buttons all working great.
[09:15] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: pelican
[09:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and mine works fine in windows too
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:15] <Daisuke_Ido> not kubuntu though
[09:16] <K-Ryan> I might just have to plug my plug and play into my controller, then hook it to my computer.
[09:16] <K-Ryan> I've got an official wireless, with a wire for it. Hehe
[09:16] <K-Ryan> dice14u you said it's only now that you're running feisty?
[09:17] <CaseyOmah> K-Ryan: Actually, it claims to support 7 Axis, 12 button.
[09:17] <Black_Cat> when Firefox downloads Adobe Flash player, where does it put it? i'd like to have the file(s) so i don't have to download it again in case of installing system at another PC
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Black_Cat I believe there is package in the universe or multiverse that you can just download
[09:17] <K-Ryan> !flash
[09:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:17] <Yorokobi> Black_Cat, the default for FF is ~/Desktop
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Flash isn't available for Feisty yet?
[09:18] <dice14u> K-Ryan yes now only when running fiesty
[09:18] <CaseyOmah> K-Ryan: I just used the binary installer for linux from the official site.
[09:18] <Black_Cat> K-Ryan, i downloaded "swf-player", but it didn't provide Flash playback in FF, i don't know the reason why. it said it has a Mozilla plugin with this package...
[09:18] <Yorokobi> dice14u, the PCM channel isn't a new sound channel.
[09:19] <K-Ryan> Aren't I popular, 3 messages in a row, gimme 2 seconds to read it all.
[09:19] <CaseyOmah> Black_Cat: You have to point FF to the plugin path.
[09:19] <dice14u> Yorokobi it just showed up though and it is what controls the total volume of the system, it used to be pc speakers
[09:19] <Black_Cat> K-Ryan, take your time
[09:19] <K-Ryan> swf-player, that's not the package that's something off the website?
[09:19] <Black_Cat> CaseyOmah, why???? it says it places files right to mozilla/plugin folder
[09:19] <Yorokobi> dice14u, PCM has always been one of the 'total system volume' controls. You probably had the mixer set up differently before.
[09:20] <dice14u> Yorokobi then how do i change it back?
[09:20] <CaseyOmah> Black_Cat: Your resaults may vary.
[09:20] <Yorokobi> dice14u, why?
[09:20] <Black_Cat> K-Ryan, that was found in repository...
[09:20] <K-Ryan> alright, that's what I was asking.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> right now, what I have is flashplugin-nonfree
[09:21] <K-Ryan> along with konqueror-nsplugins
[09:22] <K-Ryan> Since I use Konqueror
[09:22] <dice14u> Yorokobi I have a keyboard that has volume control, and now when i press it it changes the volume on the pc speakers channel
[09:22] <dice14u> not the pcm
[09:22] <dice14u> Yorokobi i tried changing the shortcuts in kmix but it didn't change anything
[09:22] <dice14u> Yorokobi thank you actually i figured it out myself, its about which one is the master channel
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Be back in a minute or two
[09:23] <dice14u> Yorokobi ok nvm i figured out how to make my keyboard work, change master to pcm
[09:23] <dice14u> Yorokobi but now when i press mute nothing happens
[09:24] <Yorokobi> dice14u, you have a multimedia keyboard, I take it?
[09:24] <Bearcat> hello folks.  I have a client who is on dial-up. She has kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS.  Can i just download a 7.04 cd and upgrade her with that?
[09:24] <dice14u> Yorokobi yes
[09:25] <dice14u> Yorokobi I got the volume to work now
[09:25] <Yorokobi> dice14u, okay. I don't know what to tell you there.
[09:25] <dice14u> but i can't get the mute to work
[09:26] <elcuco__> hi all, k3b does not wont to burn for me
[09:26] <elcuco__> running k3bsetup will fix it, but i am not really happy with this solution. any better idea?
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Bercat it might take a while.
[09:30] <K-Ryan> *Bearcat
[09:30] <K-Ryan> But you can do it.
[09:31] <dice14u> Anyone know what program the sidebar/bottom bar is?
[09:31] <K-Ryan> 7.04 is one of the versions that are sent out on CD. So you can always order one.
[09:33] <ferger> how do i remove a folder thats looks like <foldername>?
[09:34] <ferger> i get this:
[09:34] <ferger> rm <mountpoint>
[09:34] <ferger> -su: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[09:34] <Bromics> u mean rm -rf foldername?
[09:34] <Yorokobi> ferger, rm ./\<foldername\>
[09:34] <Bearcat> K-Ryan: but i can do it via cd?
[09:34] <ericsson> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 1025 -j ACCEPT <-- Would that accept an SSH session I have incoming on port 1025?
[09:34] <K-Ryan> Bearcat: I know there is a way, but I haven't done it personally so I couldn't guide you through it.
[09:35] <Alarm> anyone knowing to handle usb ntfs disks with mount ? :)
[09:35] <ferger> thanks <)
[09:35] <Bromics> :)
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Be right back, gotta let my dog outside.
[09:37] <Bearcat> K-Ryan: thanks
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Back
[09:38] <K-Ryan> No problem Bearcat
[09:39] <ddaedalus> Alarm: whats the prblem?
[09:39] <Alarm> i got a problem mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i can only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.
[09:39] <Alarm> in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .
[09:39] <Alarm> when i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 as i said it works pretty well,. i can enter the partition,. but once i turn it of (even if i remove it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive
[09:40] <Alarm> what else...
[09:40] <Alarm> ehm, till now i had: /dev/sda1   /media/win5   ntfs    auto,gid=1000,umask=0002    0    0 . but all that wanted to help me told me to remove that line
[09:40] <ddaedalus> Alarm: well there better shouldn't be a entry in your fstab
[09:40] <Alarm> u're reading my mind. i did remove it
[09:40] <ddaedalus> Alarm: do you know where your usb drive is mounted on /dev?
[09:40] <Alarm> its sda1
[09:40] <ddaedalus> ok
[09:41] <ddaedalus> try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount/<some existing folder>
[09:41] <ddaedalus> ehh /media/<some...>
[09:41] <ericsson> Alarm: umask 0002?
[09:41] <Alarm> as i said, i when i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 , its ok, i can enter it as a simple user. but once i turn it off and turn the drive on again, then i get the same messege when i try to enter in the drive, or when i try to enter the /media/win5 folder i get the message you do not have enough permitions to read /media/win5
[09:42] <ddaedalus> ok. hmmm
[09:42] <ddaedalus> you do unmount the drive before removing?
[09:42] <ericsson> Alarm: I haven't been following the whole conversation, but I know you had the same problem hours ago. Have you tried default umask022 ?
[09:43] <Alarm> ok did mount /dev/sda1 /mount/
[09:43] <ddaedalus> noo, dont mount it directly into /mount
[09:43] <Alarm> ericsson,  umask 002 where ?
[09:43] <ddaedalus> thats was a typo
[09:43] <Alarm> ok let me unmount it
[09:43] <ddaedalus> in options, something like:
[09:43] <ddaedalus> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win5 -O umask=0222
[09:44] <Alarm> well i didnt mount it to /mount dont worry :)
[09:44] <ddaedalus> ok.
[09:44] <Alarm> i did mount it on /media/win5 :)
[09:44] <ericsson> Alarm: from the looks of it it was your /etc/fstab you posted..
[09:44] <ddaedalus> that gave me a heart attack ...
[09:44] <Alarm> ok did mount /dev/sda1 /media/win5 -O umask=0222
[09:44] <pruna> roman cineva
[09:44] <ddaedalus> now try to enter /media/win5
[09:44] <ddaedalus> and ls -la
[09:45] <ddaedalus> look at the permissions
[09:45] <Alarm> same error : i do not have enough permition to read /media/win5
[09:45] <ericsson> Alarm: and do mount -a
[09:45] <aleksanteri> how can i change the panel foreground color?
[09:45] <ddaedalus> try to enter using the console
[09:45] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ cd /media/win5
[09:45] <Alarm> bash: cd: /media/win5: Permission denied
[09:46] <ddaedalus> ok, what says ls -la /media/win5
[09:46] <ddaedalus> ?
[09:46] <Alarm> as root i can enter and see the files
[09:46] <ericsson> aleksanteri: right-click panel -> configure panel -> apperance -> enable background images/color
[09:46] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ ls -la /media/win5
[09:46] <Alarm> ls: /media/win5: Permission denied
[09:46] <ddaedalus> :/
[09:46] <ddaedalus> try ls -la /media; plz paste only the lines which are relevant ;)
[09:47] <Alarm> ericsson,  as much i did hear i should have an entry in the fstab
[09:47] <aleksanteri> ericsson: i meant changing the foreground color :P
[09:47] <Alarm> dr-x------  1 root root   4096 2007-04-23 19:16 win5
[09:47] <ddaedalus> not for dynamicly mounted drives. udev does take care of this
[09:47] <RytmenPinnen> !nvidia
[09:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <ddaedalus> ok i see the problem
[09:47] <ericsson> Alarm: there is the problem ;)
[09:48] <ddaedalus> can you paste your fstab somewhere?
[09:48] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  take in mind , with pmount i can mount it an enter as a simple user, the problem starts when i turn off and on the drive again, i cant enter anymore , i have to pmount again
[09:48] <ericsson> aleksanteri: then I'm lost, I'm not used to GUI ;)
[09:48] <Alarm> ddaedalus, sure but there is no entry about the sda1 , so it wont be something to see
[09:48] <ddaedalus> kk
[09:48] <ericsson> !pastebin | Alarm
[09:48] <ubotu> Alarm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <Alarm> ericsson,  where is the problem my friend ? :)
[09:49] <ericsson> Alarm: is there vfat or ntfs on it? As I said, I haven't followed from the start..
[09:49] <Alarm> ntfs
[09:49] <Alarm> its an ntfs usb disk
[09:49] <ddaedalus> now i am dumbfound
[09:49] <ericsson> have you got the nfts-3g driver?
[09:49] <Alarm> no
[09:49] <ericsson> !ntfs-3g | Alarm
[09:49] <ubotu> Alarm: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:49] <ddaedalus> he doesn't need it
[09:49] <ddaedalus> only for writing
[09:49] <ericsson> Ok, ddaedalus is right there..
[09:50] <Alarm> i dont need a write access. all i want is to read and mount :)
[09:50] <ericsson> so, chown, cmod + entried is fstab is what we want?
[09:50] <ddaedalus> i really don't now what screws your permissions up
[09:50] <Alarm> me neither.
[09:50] <ddaedalus> no, it looks like his drive is mounted umask=0700
[09:51] <ddaedalus> so only root can read
[09:51] <Alarm> yes
[09:51] <Alarm> with root i get in . but as i said , when i pmount i get also as a simple user
[09:52] <stoft> Alarm, if you want users othher than root too be aable to read then you need to use ntfs-3g,, afaik
[09:52] <ddaedalus> i'm not exprerienced with pmount
[09:52] <Alarm> stoft,  its not true
[09:52] <ddaedalus> no, like hell.
[09:52] <ddaedalus> only writing
[09:52] <Alarm> any other suggestions ? :)
[09:53] <ddaedalus> i am thinking... can take some time :P
[09:53] <aleksanteri> how can i change the panel foreground color? :)
[09:53] <ericsson> Alarm: probably rather waste of time, but have you tried modprobe?
[09:53] <Alarm> and load what ?
[09:53] <ericsson> usb-storage
[09:54] <ericsson> ddaedalus: take the time you need, we others grow beards ;)
[09:54] <Alarm> how can i see which modules are loaded
[09:55] <ddaedalus> ericsson: wait? you gurus dont already have beards ? :P
[09:55] <ericsson> ddaedalus: I'm old, but not THAT old ;)
[09:55] <ericsson> well, it's not grey anyway :)
[09:55] <ddaedalus> ok, thats *too* much detail
[09:55] <Alarm> any other channel that i could ask  ? :)
[09:55] <stoft> I do, but it's a small one because I'm  not a gguru yet
[09:55] <ddaedalus> the ubuntu forums?
[09:56] <ericsson> Alarm: try #clueless_blondes
[09:56] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  i did google it , couldnt help me much
[09:56] <Alarm> :)
[09:56] <ddaedalus> well, simply ask? create a thread. i am sure some will help
[09:56] <ddaedalus> *someone
[09:57] <Alarm> i will on linuxforums once i got an account there
[09:57] <Alarm> thanks for ur time
[09:57] <ddaedalus> np ;)
[09:57] <ericsson> Weird problem that one..
[09:57] <K-Ryan> Since I've upgraded to Feisty, my trash can has disapeared. How do I get it back?
[09:57] <Alarm> u tell me...
[09:58] <Alarm> nuu user tried before like an hour to help me without results :)
[09:58] <aleksanteri> how can i change the panel foreground color?
[09:58] <ddaedalus> i am sure you have a some config file messed up
[09:58] <ddaedalus> *-a-
[09:58] <stoft> according to mount manual page, ntfs aare by default, unless you set to something else explicitly, owned by root annd not readabbleby anyone else
[09:58] <K-Ryan> aleksanteri: KDE Start button > System Settings > Appearance
[09:58] <ericsson> K-Ryan: Right-click on the bottom panel and add applet to panel
[09:58] <ddaedalus> hmm, he might try umask
[09:58] <stoft> sorry for the double letters, I have a heavy process in the bg
[09:59] <K-Ryan> Ah there we go
[09:59] <K-Ryan> Thanks ericsson
[09:59] <ericsson> ddaedalus: did it change umask automagically?
[09:59] <ericsson> K-Ryan: no probs
[09:59] <ddaedalus> dont know, maybe
[09:59] <ddaedalus> Alarm: still here?
[09:59] <ericsson> stranger than fiction ;)
[09:59] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  yes
[10:00] <Alarm> fighting with the devils machine :)
[10:00] <ddaedalus> but u have a point. ntfs is auto-mounting as root
[10:00] <anon32> 'u'?
[10:00] <anon32> !u
[10:00] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[10:00] <Alarm> anon32, how smart...
[10:00] <ericsson> lol@ubotu
[10:01] <K-Ryan> Thanks ubotu
[10:01] <ddaedalus> does someone know the syntax for umask
[10:01] <rrmm> why does compiling a driver on xubuntu work but not on kubuntu?
[10:01] <anon32> I love that factoid :-P
[10:01] <K-Ryan> !snack
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[10:01] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:01] <stoft> lol
[10:01] <K-Ryan> There we go...
[10:01] <anon32> rrmm, no idea, can you fill me in on the detail?
[10:01] <Yorokobi> ddaedalus, umask (newmask) eg: umask 0022
[10:01] <rrmm> anon32~ u just want a link to launchpad?
[10:01] <K-Ryan> anon32 have you seen the one for windows, or the one for love? =)
[10:02] <ddaedalus> Yorokobi: thx, but this mask permissions out right. so 777 would be umask 000 ?
[10:02] <anon32> K-Ryan, for Windows, yes. Not for love.
[10:02] <K-Ryan> !love
[10:02] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[10:02] <Yorokobi> ddaedalus, for full 0777, the umask is 000, yep
[10:02] <ddaedalus> Yorokobi: ok thx
[10:02] <K-Ryan> Well let's see
[10:02] <K-Ryan> !windows
[10:02] <ddaedalus> Alarm: try mounting with --umask 000
[10:02] <anon32> rrmm, na, I have time, details please
[10:02] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:03] <K-Ryan> It's not really flaming, just implying that it's rather problematic.
[10:03] <K-Ryan> If you look at it in a good way =)
[10:03] <anon32> or your nearest mental health institute - that's borderline troll :-\
[10:03] <Alarm> again the same. not enough permitions
[10:03] <stoft> !troll
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <anon32> !trolltech
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolltech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <LinkCanabico> !bill
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <anon32> !test
[10:04] <ubotu> Failed
[10:04] <LjL> !botabuse
[10:04] <ericsson> A bit off topic, but the reason why Vista sales is going up is because companies buy vista pre-loaded machines and then they get xp licences on them
[10:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:04] <rrmm> anon32~ my card worked under edgy perfectly, i upgraded and it stopped working (my card meaning my pci wirelss hawking hwp54g which useus RaLink chipset and use(?d) rt2500 module) i put in a xubuntu cd to see if it would detect it and it did but didnt work so i dl the driver onto the live cd and compiled and installed and it worked perfectly
[10:04] <K-Ryan> Wasn't me
[10:04] <ddaedalus> the man pages says that default for ntfs would be 077, which is right in your case. only root can access
[10:04] <rrmm> anon32~ i tried to do the same thing on a kubuntu and ubuntu live cd but they crashed
[10:05] <anon32> ericsson, do you have evidence for that? or are you just trying to bash Windows? because bashing anything and everything non-F/OSS only hurts the community
[10:05] <stoft> Alarm, it's a usb disk right?
[10:05] <anon32> rrmm, hint - install first
[10:05] <Alarm> stoft, exactly, ntfs one
[10:05] <ericsson> anon32: first hand experince and also news-articles via theINQ
[10:05] <rrmm> anon32~ i have a kubuntu installed system which i dont want to screw with
[10:05] <stoft> Alarm: so it has no entry in fstab?
[10:05] <K-Ryan> Well anon32 it's not like they aren't forcing some people to get it.
[10:05] <tdn> The menu bar is not visible on Konqueror. How do I make it visible? I do not know how it became hidden.
[10:06] <Alarm> stoft,  no
[10:06] <K-Ryan> That whole "Games For Windows" thing
[10:06] <LinkCanabico> also the vista sales include all vista's that are still in stores like wallmart because microsoft alredy "sold" them
[10:06] <K-Ryan> Compatible with Vista only
[10:06] <RytmenPinnen> how do I make list view default? I know where you change but once I open a new tab or a new window I see icons
[10:06] <anon32> K-Ryan, they're not really doing anything that hasn't been standard MS business practice for ages
[10:06] <Alarm> its not needed
[10:06] <rrmm> anon32~ i used the cds for a clean troubleshooting environment. to make sure it was my installed kubuntu that was messed up not the stupid ubuntu repos which they are
[10:06] <ddaedalus> Alarm: try the verbose switch plz
[10:06] <anon32> release new OS, phase out old one, don't backport
[10:06] <Alarm> verbose switch ? meaning in plain english ? :)
[10:06] <ddaedalus> -v
[10:06] <K-Ryan> Alright, when was Vista realeased?
[10:06] <ericsson> tdn: ctrl+shift+F
[10:06] <stoft> that's probably the problem then, not having an fstab entry you can't predefine the umask. you could probably work your way around it in udev config
[10:06] <K-Ryan> *released
[10:06] <rrmm> K-Ryan~ what is vista?
[10:06] <ddaedalus> when you consider "-v" plain english :P
[10:06] <trpr> i don't suppose we could move the debate on ms sales practices to offtopic, please
[10:07] <K-Ryan> rrmm: Windows Vista, their latest operating system.
[10:07] <Alarm> no i didnt understand which command to do with the -v flag
[10:07] <anon32> K-Ryan, 3 months ago
[10:07] <rrmm> K-Ryan~ what is windows?
[10:07] <LinkCanabico> vista is the spanish word for sight but you have to be blind to apeciate it
[10:07] <anon32> rrmm, don't troll, it just makes the Linux community look like idiots
[10:07] <tdn> ericsson, no. That gives me full screen.
[10:07] <K-Ryan> anon32 when was 95/98 no longer supported?
[10:07] <rrmm> anon32~ ur stupid
[10:07] <anon32> K-Ryan, 3 years ago
[10:07] <anon32> I think
[10:07] <ericsson> tdn: ok, I thought you were in fullscren and stuck there..
[10:07] <ddaedalus> Alarm: pmount -v --umask 000 ...
[10:08] <K-Ryan> That's almost a 10 year shelf life
[10:08] <anon32> K-Ryan, but meaningful updates stopped around 2000
[10:08] <rrmm> take M$ crap to offtopic
[10:08] <tdn> ericsson, no. The menu bar is just hidden.
[10:08] <ericsson> tdn: would F9 help?
[10:08] <K-Ryan> So why should Vista take over XP in a few months?
[10:08] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ pmount -v --umask 000
[10:08] <Alarm> pmount: invalid option -- v
[10:08] <anon32> it was only extended because people refused to update to 2000 or later
[10:08] <K-Ryan> Yeah, good point rrmm.
[10:08] <RytmenPinnen> how do I make list view default? I know where you change but once I open a new tab or a new window I see icons
[10:08] <tdn> ericsson, F9 gives me a side bar.
[10:08] <rrmm> it was already said
[10:08] <ericsson> tdn: or ctrl+m
[10:08] <anon32> yeah, we're going off topic..
[10:08] <ddaedalus> Alarm: kk, doesnt have verbose switch :(
[10:08] <K-Ryan> I missed it.
[10:08] <Alarm> ehe seems not :)
[10:08] <tdn> ericsson, ctrl+m does nothing :(
[10:08] <anon32> rrmm, please, don't troll, evangalize, etc
[10:08] <ericsson> tdn: You should know I'm not used to GUI's :)
[10:08] <rrmm> wtf is evangalizxze?
[10:09] <ddaedalus> Alarm: and using --umask 000 sure does not give any results
[10:09] <Alarm> amazing , nor in debian, linuxhelp channel can help me
[10:09] <ddaedalus> ?
[10:09] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  no, i tried it , i get the permition error
[10:09] <Alarm> when i try to enter
[10:09] <rrmm> anon32~ feisty was released too early, so many wireless problems with the kernel
[10:09] <ericsson> tdn: then I'm sorry, don't know :/
[10:09] <anon32> rrmm, http://familyfirst.net/ - evangalicals. anyway, yeah, back to the wireless
[10:09] <K-Ryan> Gotta start somewhere
[10:10] <rrmm> im not reading that junk
[10:10] <ddaedalus> Alarm: some stupid idea. u didn't create the folder as root, did you?
[10:10] <anon32> rrmm, do they compile right in KDE? it could be that you run out of space on your RAMdisk
[10:10] <K-Ryan> It's easier to find everything when many people are using it.
[10:10] <Alarm> how else can i cretate the dir as a simple user in the /media dir
[10:10] <K-Ryan> Bug wise
[10:10] <Alarm> cretate = create
[10:10] <stoft> ddaedalus: good question! :)
[10:10] <rrmm> anon32~ i need to compile the svn nightly because the others wont compile under feisty
[10:10] <ericsson> Alarm: sudo and chmod?
[10:10] <Alarm> didnt chmod it
[10:11] <ddaedalus> Alarm: well i mean other user can read ;) i know my sentance didnt made any sense
[10:11] <anon32> rrmm, and you can build them on Xubuntu live but not K/Ubuntu live, right?
[10:11] <Alarm> no i got what u mean
[10:11] <rrmm> anon32~ yes
[10:11] <Alarm> chdmo 640 would do ?
[10:11] <ddaedalus> Alarm: chmod a+rwx /media/win5
[10:11] <Alarm> chmod
[10:11] <rrmm> well ubuntu works but i cant rmmod the module
[10:11] <rrmm> anon32~ kubuntu just locks up
[10:11] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sudo ... // of course
[10:11] <Alarm> ok did it. and now ?
[10:11] <Alarm> yeap got that
[10:11] <anon32> rrmm, so you're saying that they compile but don't work?
[10:12] <Alarm> mount it how again ? with what parameteres
[10:12] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win5 --umask 000
[10:12] <rrmm> anon32~ they compile on xubuntu and ubuntu, i cant rmmod on the ubuntu so i cant use the one i compiled and kubuntu locks up
[10:12] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  the command seems to be wrong.  i get the usage list
[10:12] <stoft> ddaedalus: if using mount, shouldn't it be -o umask=000?
[10:12] <Alarm> mount: unrecognized option `--umask'
[10:12] <ddaedalus> a, well yaah
[10:12] <anon32> rrmm, huh, that's odd. They ought to have the same kernel
[10:12] <ddaedalus> ;)
[10:13] <rrmm> anon32~ they do
[10:13] <rrmm> anon32~ uname -a
[10:13] <anon32> say, why are you using "rmmod"?
[10:13] <Alarm> ok i will add an -o
[10:13] <anon32> isn't that remove module?
[10:13] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win5 -o umask=000
[10:13] <stoft> i.e. sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/win5
[10:13] <Alarm> ok did that
[10:13] <rrmm> anon32~ yes, i need to remove the module the kenrel loaded to use the one i compiled
[10:13] <Nanu> hi guys ,,, i just installed KDE on my Ubuntu,, i wanna remove it
[10:14] <ddaedalus> *praying
[10:14] <Alarm> ok some good and bad news
[10:14] <anon32> rrmm, what happens when you issue rmmod?
[10:14] <ddaedalus> bad first
[10:14] <Alarm> when i enter /media/win5 the dir is empty
[10:14] <Alarm> the good news are when i enter with media:/sda1 i see the files
[10:14] <rrmm> anon32~ it said the module was in use and when i di d a sudo ifdown ra0 it said it wasnt configured
[10:14] <ddaedalus> thats crazy?
[10:14] <stoft> oh.. yay... eh...
[10:14] <ddaedalus> thats is simply wrong
[10:14] <ericsson> lol@empty stuffz
[10:14] <LinkCanabico>  media:/sda1 is it a USB?
[10:15] <anon32> rrmm, an, now we're making some headway - did ifconfig list any net devices other than loopback?
[10:15] <Alarm> yes /dev/sda1 is the usb
[10:15] <ddaedalus> Alarm: plz do fdisk -l
[10:15] <rrmm> my ethernet one
[10:15] <Alarm>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:15] <Alarm> /dev/sda1   *           1        9729    78148161    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:15] <Nanu> when i type ( sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop ) it says ( E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. )
[10:15] <anon32> rrmm, hrmm...
[10:15] <ddaedalus> Alarm: hmmm
[10:16] <stoft> could it have been automounted by udev?
[10:16] <anon32> rrmm, try rmmod -f <modulename>
[10:16] <rrmm> that didnt work eitehr
[10:16] <ddaedalus> stoft: well it should have been
[10:16] <rrmm> anon32~ i dont have that computer turned on even
[10:16] <LinkCanabico> soft i second that
[10:16] <Alarm> i know its strange.  when i enter to media:/ and see the devices listed. and get into the usb , instead ot /media/win5 i see the sda1 as i said before
[10:16] <anon32> rrmm, err... hmm...
[10:16] <stoft> Alarm: what does /etc/mtab say?
[10:16] <rrmm> anon32~ it said the resource was busy
[10:17] <ddaedalus> Alarm: u sure udev doesn't auto-mount?
[10:17] <anon32> rrmm, dunno what I can suggest then
[10:17] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ less /etc/mtab | grep sda1
[10:17] <Alarm> /dev/sda1 /media/win5 ntfs rw,umask=000 0 0
[10:17] <rrmm> anon32~ why cant ubuntu just fix the broken drivers?
[10:17] <anon32> rrmm, that would require more testing and the developers are lazy
[10:17] <LinkCanabico> but even if it automoutnts it should be abel to mount it elsewere
[10:18] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  also that. doesnt automount, i had to pount it , or now to mount it as u told me, but after i turn it off and on i have to mount it again
[10:18] <Alarm> give me a second to turn it off/on and see what happens
[10:18] <rrmm> anon32~ and when i dl the drivers to my installed kubuntu, those ones dont even work, i think i screwed up my install, im just going to wait till they make a fix, hopefully before gusty
[10:18] <ericsson> Alarm: sorry to say it mate, but this is interesting :)
[10:18] <anon32> rrmm, ah well, you can still use Ethernet right?
[10:19] <Alarm> ericsson,  u tell me :)
[10:19] <rrmm> anon32~ it was in my room for a reason, i had wifi and then served my ps2 from the ethernet
[10:19] <Alarm> ok , results . turned it on . the dialog box appeard if i want to open the disks window , error message: the mount point /media/win5 is allready occupied
[10:19] <anon32> rrmm, hehe, I don't trust wi-fi... call me a technophobe :-\
[10:19] <ddaedalus> Alarm: well mtab says everything is right
[10:20] <Alarm> when i did turn it off i did less /etc/mtab | grep sda1 and did not get any output
[10:20] <Yorokobi> Alarm, will it remount when you unmount it before turning it off/removing it?
[10:20] <ddaedalus> Alarm: ok. fisrt be sure it is plugged off. then sudo rm -r /media/win5
[10:20] <Alarm> neither do i get now when it says that it is occupied
[10:20] <Alarm> Yorokobi,  i also did that
[10:20] <ericsson> Alarm: could you pastebin mtab? Or are you sure everything is ok there?
[10:20] <rrmm> anon32~ it worked fine untill the god damn devs put in crappy kerenel modules, i SHOULD NOT lose support for hardware in an upgrade, i dont care do !ohmy to me i could care less
[10:20] <anon32> hehe
[10:20] <LinkCanabico> try umount /media/win5 and then mount it again
[10:20] <Alarm> ok removed the dir
[10:21] <anon32> rrmm, calm down though, things break when you make changes, it's a fact of life
[10:21] <Alarm> ehmm people , i can follow just one instruction sorry :)
[10:21] <anon32> my winmodem doesn't work with the new kernel either
[10:21] <Alarm> ericsson,  give me a second
[10:21] <Alarm> !paste
[10:21] <ericsson> anon32: win32 seldomworks
[10:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <rrmm> anon32~ plenty of people have my back at this kernel/feisty upgrade issue
[10:21] <anon32> yeah, well :-\
[10:21] <rrmm> even devs too
[10:21] <mahdi> anyone know if xwinwrap is dead or not?
[10:21] <anon32> rrmm, considered building your own kernel?
[10:21] <ddaedalus> ericsson: his mtab looked ok
[10:22] <rrmm> anon32~  i lose support
[10:22] <ericsson> ddaedalus: no fair that you saw it :)
[10:22] <ddaedalus> Alarm: now recreate the dir
[10:22] <anon32> ericsson, well, that's not entirely true... but the idea of a winmodem is pretty stupid
[10:22] <Alarm> ericsson,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18471/
[10:22] <Alarm> ok done
[10:22] <ddaedalus> Alarm: mkdir /media/win5
[10:22] <TheCreationist> If all my hardware works well in Edgy, do I run the risk of it NOT working when upgrading to Feisty?  I ask because a fresh install of Feisty didn't support my CD burner...and my sound didn't work.
[10:23] <anon32> rrmm, yeah, well, if you wanted support, you oughta stuck with Dapper :-\
[10:23] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  i did that :)
[10:23] <ericsson> anon32: yes, agree
[10:23] <ddaedalus> Alarm: :d
[10:23] <ddaedalus> Alarm: chmod?
[10:23] <anon32> ericsson, fortunately I have a broadband line now :-P
[10:23] <Alarm> chmod a+rwx /media/win5  again ?
[10:23] <just-this-time> xp has disk manager to see physical devices
[10:23] <rrmm> anon32~ i should not need to roll my own just because the ubuntu kernel hackers fucked up !coc !ohmy my ass
[10:24] <ddaedalus> Alarm: yes, should do
[10:24] <anon32> !coc ?
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coc ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <ddaedalus> Alarm: yes, should do
[10:24] <Alarm> ok next ? :)
[10:24] <ericsson> ddaedalus: Second your opinion that it looks ok, apart from the missing /media/win5 :)
[10:24] <just-this-time> what do I use in KDE Kubuntu to investigate unmounted partitions
[10:24] <ddaedalus> Alarm: well mount it
[10:24] <ddaedalus> Alarm: a no
[10:24] <rrmm> !coc | anon32
[10:24] <ubotu> anon32: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:24] <Alarm> what ?
[10:24] <ddaedalus> Alarm: plug it in
[10:24] <anon32> ......
[10:24] <Alarm> ok
[10:24] <Alarm> press ok or cancel in the dialog box ?
[10:25] <ddaedalus> Alarm: and wait for udev, and the <your de> automounter
[10:25] <anon32> rrmm, well, I can only see building your own kernel as a viable option at this point
[10:25] <anon32> but what do I know?
[10:25] <ddaedalus> Alarm: the ok button?
[10:25] <Alarm> well the window appeared asking me open in a new window
[10:25] <Alarm> ok
[10:25] <ericsson> Alarm: progress...
[10:25] <Alarm> same error: mount point /media/win5 occupied
[10:25] <ddaedalus> Alarm: hell yes! don't say you always pressed cancel
[10:25] <rrmm> anon32~ Reasons for NOT compiling a custom kernel
[10:25] <rrmm> #
[10:25] <rrmm> You merely need to compile a special driver. For this, you only need to install the linux-headers packages.
[10:25] <Alarm> no i was pressing 'ok'
[10:26] <ericsson> *sigh*
[10:26] <anon32> rrmm, but when it doesn't work? :-)
[10:26] <ddaedalus> Alarm: kill win5, repeat procedure without creating win5
[10:26] <rrmm> anon32~ im just reading what the wiki tells me to
[10:26] <Alarm> when i enter to /media/win5 its empty. when i try to enter from media:/ i get the error with occupied i mentioned above
[10:26] <anon32> I was tempted to build my own kernel because .21 had better SATA :-\
[10:26] <ericsson> Alarm: can you mount/read it if you kill X?
[10:26] <RytmenPinnen> who here has succesfully installed nvidia drivers without any resolution hassle?
[10:26] <anon32> but it took too long...
[10:26] <Alarm> kill win5 ? u mean remove the dir again ?
[10:26] <ddaedalus> ericsson: udev creates the dir if necessary
[10:26] <ddaedalus> Alarm: yes
[10:27] <Alarm> ok
[10:27] <rrmm> anon32~ it doesnt take long to compile a kerneel from scratch
[10:27] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sorry that i make u do trial and error, but i am out of ideas
[10:27] <TheCreationist> If all my hardware works well in Edgy, do I run the risk of it NOT working when upgrading to Feisty?  I ask because a fresh install of Feisty didn't support my CD burner...and my sound didn't work.
[10:27] <anon32> rrmm, meh, I don't have a lot of patience
[10:27] <rrmm> anon32~ i tried to but forgot to mount /boot so the kernel could not be found
[10:27] <anon32> and my CPU is kinda weak
[10:27] <Alarm> ok removed the folder, turned on the disk. no i get: could not enter /media/win5
[10:28] <anon32> rrmm, ow :-\
[10:28] <ericsson> ddaedalus: T&E is the only way to go sometimes
[10:28] <stoft> same thing I would've tried.
[10:28] <Alarm> ericsson,  no i didnt try it without x
[10:28] <ddaedalus> Alarm: u sure ur udev rules aren't messed up?
[10:28] <rrmm> anon32~ so instead i switched to kubuntu, from debian, i was tryuing to get my sata pci controller working
[10:28] <mcgregor> hello lads! i was wondering if someone could help me. i have some severe problems with running ktorrent.
[10:28] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  how can i know that ? :)
[10:28] <ddaedalus> Alarm: well, maybe u felt like messing with the udev rules?
[10:29] <Alarm> actually my os is fresh installed. i didnt do any changes
[10:29] <Alarm> its now that i try to mount my drive
[10:29] <anon32> rrmm, heh, my SATA controller is onboard and Intel, but I've had issues with hdparm
[10:29] <Alarm> ddaedalus,  no i didnt touch anything on udev
[10:29] <rrmm> least u have onbaord sata
[10:29] <anon32> rrmm, hehe, yeah, and kind of standardized (Intel) :-)
[10:30] <ddaedalus> Alarm: what does dmesg say when u plug ur drive in?
[10:30] <mcgregor> can anyone help me?
[10:30] <rrmm> anon32~ im going to reinstall the headers packs
[10:30] <anon32> go for it
[10:30] <rrmm> !ask | mcgregor
[10:30] <ubotu> mcgregor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:30] <Alarm> let me check the logs
[10:30] <ericsson> mcgregor: just shoot ;)
[10:30] <ddaedalus> Alarm: plz paste dmesg | tail -n 100 right after plugging it in
[10:31] <ericsson> ddaedalus: he's soon gonna wear his ctrl+c combination out from all the copy&paste ;)
[10:31] <Alarm> ddaedalus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18473/
[10:32] <mcgregor> ok
[10:32] <Alarm> a small part of the dmesg
[10:32] <ddaedalus> ericsson: when his cc is waern out becosue of this, mine must be non-existant ;)
[10:32] <anon32> stoft, lol, ntfs + flash = fail
[10:32] <mcgregor> can anyone help me here with resolving my ktorrent?
[10:32] <ericsson> what is rows 18+19
[10:32] <mcgregor> i think it crashed
[10:32] <anon32> you don't want a journal on a device with limited writes
[10:32] <LinkCanabico> ***stoft link is doing it
[10:33] <Alarm> and the paste you just asked me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18474/
[10:33] <LinkCanabico> mcgregor whats the problem
[10:33] <ericsson> mcgregor: you can't start it again?
[10:33] <mcgregor> finally
[10:33] <mcgregor> yeah
[10:33] <mcgregor> if i start ktorrent
[10:33] <mcgregor> everything goes wrong
[10:33] <ddaedalus> Alarm: NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Volume is dirty.  Will not b <-- the most important part is missing
[10:34] <Alarm> whats that  ?
[10:34] <mcgregor> i mean
[10:34] <mcgregor> that
[10:34] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sorry, wrong link
[10:34] <ddaedalus> Alarm: my bad
[10:34] <mcgregor> after i start ktorrent
[10:34] <VSpike> I seem to be missing some important toolbar in konqueror in feisty.  The one for file manager use.  Any idea how I restore it?
[10:34] <ericsson> Alarm: I think you have strawberry-jam in your drive
[10:34] <mcgregor> something is happening
[10:34] <mcgregor> and the other programs
[10:35] <mcgregor> stop running
[10:35] <just-this-time> !ntfs
[10:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:35] <ddaedalus> ericsson: maybe he should try to open his drive and lick it off. might help.
[10:35] <Alarm> i see this: NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Volume is dirty.  Will not be able to remount read-write.  Run chkdsk and mount in Windows.
[10:35] <VSpike> It doesn't seem to be in the Settings->Toolbars list
[10:35] <don> remove it then replace it
[10:35] <Alarm> should i log on to windows do a chkdsk and try again or what ?
[10:35] <mcgregor> ok
[10:35] <just-this-time> !fuse
[10:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:35] <ericsson> ddaedalus: I think the drive could be infected with wi**ows?
[10:35] <mcgregor> i shall see if that could work
[10:35] <mcgregor> thx alot
[10:35] <mcgregor> :d
[10:35] <ddaedalus> Alarm: don't know. thats what it says.
[10:36] <Alarm> ericsson,  doesnt have win os on it. its just ntfs storage
[10:36] <ddaedalus> Alarm: infected with ntfs for sure...
[10:36] <Alarm> :)
[10:36] <ericsson> strawberry-ntfs that is..
[10:36] <VSpike> ntfs would be pretty good, if only it were open
[10:36] <ddaedalus> VSpike: but it isn't ...
[10:37] <don> what can I type in to change my resolution I can do way better
[10:37] <redfive> anyone know about the black windows thingy in beryl?
[10:37] <ddaedalus> Alarm: sorry u can try to do as the log says.
[10:37] <Alarm> ok , i go for a chkdsk and come back again, although i dont think that this will solve something
[10:37] <Alarm> thats what i will do
[10:37] <Alarm> be right back
[10:37] <ddaedalus> Alarm: i have to quit for now. hope
[10:37] <Alarm> :)
[10:37] <adz21c> redfive: its an nvidia bug
[10:37] <Alarm> be here in a few minutes
[10:38] <ddaedalus> Alarm: but i *do* have to quit
[10:38] <redfive> so using xgl don help?
[10:38] <Alarm> well i mean i will be here in a few minutes :)
[10:38] <Alarm> sorry , i didnt put the 'i'
[10:38] <adz21c> redfive: well i think it should tbh, i personally use AIGLX
[10:38] <Alarm> thank you a lot for ur help :)
[10:38] <ddaedalus> Alarm: kk
[10:38] <ddaedalus> Alarm: np, ur welcome
[10:38] <redfive> so do I, just sick of the black windows
[10:38] <Alarm> i will tell u the results in case i will see u :)
[10:38] <ddaedalus> Alarm: plz, do so ;)
[10:38] <sb73542> hello all, is there any workaround for Kubuntu 7.04 with the bug that breaks KDE when the monitor power saving time is changed?
[10:38] <ericsson> we're on a need to know basis, and we need to know :)
[10:39] <don> I found some res changers they didnot work at all
[10:39] <redfive> is there a program likd dreamweaver for linux?
[10:39] <adz21c> redfive: ditto, but last i knew it was a Nvidia only bug, so i switched to AIGLX till they fixed it
[10:39] <adz21c> redfive: quanta plus, bluefish etc
[10:39] <sb73542> it's quite a major showstopper, i can't believe it's not getting any attention
[10:39] <redfive> AIGLX is newer? or not as good as XGL?
[10:39] <adz21c> redfive: AIGLX performs better than XGL i think and is newer
[10:40] <_al_> hello
[10:40] <redfive> how can you tell which your using?
[10:40] <LinkCanabico> AIGLX still has major bugs
[10:40] <Alarm> ehmm something  i forgot to ask
[10:40] <RytmenPinnen> how do I make a "most used programs" list in the Kmenu? and I'd also like to have a search funcion that searches for apps that are in the kmenu only I had this in suse 10.0 and it was very handy
[10:40] <Alarm> could it be that udev is not running ? :)
[10:40] <TheCreationist> If all my hardware works well in Edgy, do I run the risk of it NOT working when upgrading to Feisty?  I ask because a fresh install of Feisty didn't support my CD burner...and my sound didn't work.
[10:40] <adz21c> redfive: I have the beryl manager running and it has the option to force a rendering platform in adv options
[10:40] <redfive> oh, i will look
[10:41] <_al_> what could be problem with scandinavic characters with skype?
[10:41] <Alarm> ericsson, what do u say
[10:41] <_al_> I'm using feisty
[10:41] <ericsson> Alarm: Interesting thought :)
[10:41] <Alarm> how can i check that ?:)
[10:41] <RytmenPinnen> TheCreationist: as far as my experience with feisty goes you should not get it
[10:41] <_al_> when I type this kind of character there appears square
[10:41] <stoft> Alarm: I think udev is running (ps -A|grep udev) seeing as you're producing errors in dmesg.
[10:42] <redfive> ok im not seeing it
[10:42] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: Yeah, that was my experience so far too.  You'd think new releases would support MORE hardware, not less ;)
[10:42] <Alarm> yeap it is
[10:42] <just-this-time> \o interesting issue
[10:42] <Alarm> ok i will try to chkdsk it then under windows , hope this will make some difference
[10:42] <VSpike> RytmenPinnen: There's a KDE improvement on apps.kde.org which is pretty much what you want... even mentions that it's based on Suse I think
[10:42] <just-this-time> bk from googling
[10:42] <just-this-time> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-214972.html
[10:43] <just-this-time> is there a way to  "regenerate fstab"
[10:43] <RytmenPinnen> yeh I cant get my nvidia drivers to work :( If I enable them I get a maximum resolution of 640x480 and I have no idea how to fix it
[10:43] <just-this-time> is there a way to  "regenerate fstab"
[10:43] <just-this-time> sorry
[10:43] <stoft> TheCreationist: I would evaluate (make a list with plus and minuses) reasons for upgrade. if everything works as it is annd you're satisfied with that, why upgrade? (why kill a winning combination in other words)
[10:43] <don> I have same trouble
[10:43] <don> 640x480
[10:43] <don> sucks
[10:43] <nu> hey guys
[10:44] <TheCreationist> stoft: Well, because I don't want to get left too far behind; especially once the support cycle for Edgy comes to an end.
[10:44] <nu> does anybody know how to disable the icon click effect in KDE ?
[10:44] <Black_Cat> nu, bouncing cursor? "Launch feedback" in Panel settings.
[10:44] <RytmenPinnen> some dude over here helped me fix the problem with the resolution but I have no drivers instead :/
[10:44] <nu> nope, not the bouncing cursor
[10:44] <stoft> RytmenPinnen: do you use katapult? it's not quite a search function, but it might be what you're looking for without knowing it?
[10:44] <nu> the "zoom" effect
[10:45] <LinkCanabico> nu right click on the task bar
[10:45] <redfive> is there a program like dreamweaver for linux?
[10:45] <don> I like to know how to make my icons smaller thay are big!
[10:45] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, don, did you guys specify the Horizontal and Vertical refresh values in your xorg.conf ?
[10:45] <Black_Cat> redfive, many of them. Quanta Plus for example.
[10:45] <ericsson> the icon-increasing-flashy-zoomy-thingie?
[10:45] <adz21c> redfive: quanta plus or bluefish
[10:45] <LinkCanabico> nu then configure panel
[10:45] <sb73542> does anyone know if the kde guidance / kcontrol stuff wiill get fixed any time soon?  I have filed 3 major bugs related to kde guidance stuff, and there's been no developer response
[10:45] <nu> yes...
[10:45] <LinkCanabico> nu then aspect
[10:45] <nu> appearance ?
[10:46] <stoft> TheCreationist: true, at the same time evaluate the urgency of an upgrade, can you wait 2 months e.g.?
[10:46] <RytmenPinnen> Yorokobi: nope but I dont have the permission to edit xorg.conf and I never got any help to so
[10:46] <LinkCanabico> maby i heve the spanish version and translating
[10:46] <VSpike> RytmenPinnen: found it... http://www.kbfx.org/
[10:46] <nu> okay..
[10:46] <nu> "enable icon mouseover effects" doesnt fix it :\
[10:46] <nu> any other checkbox i have to untick ?
[10:46] <VSpike> RytmenPinnen: I didn't get on with it, but it may be what you want
[10:47] <LinkCanabico> yes wait
[10:47] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, that's what the sudo command is for. Did you read the help web page provided by !fixres?
[10:47] <RytmenPinnen> cool
[10:47] <TheCreationist> stoft: Of course, I can.  I just remember always being about 2-3 versions behind when I used Windows... I'm liking being able to always upgrade to the latest Kubuntu :P  I'll give it some time
[10:47] <RytmenPinnen> yes
[10:47] <LinkCanabico>  there are two check boxes right?
[10:47] <nu> two on the top, and two on the bottom
[10:47] <nu> actually 3
[10:47] <nu> in the panel background section (useless)
[10:48] <nu> two icons on the top. "enable icon mouseover effects" and "show tooltips"
[10:48] <nu> both unchecked, no fix
[10:48] <rrmm> anon32~ it magivly worked somehow
[10:48] <rrmm> i didnt do anything
[10:48] <anon32> lol
[10:48] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, if you read the help then you didn't follow the instructions; or are you unable to because you don't have sudo privs?
[10:48] <LinkCanabico> the one on top are reversed enable the right one and disable the left one
[10:48] <rrmm> just turned it on and was playing with iwlist iwconfig ifconfig
[10:48] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, maby I missed something
[10:48] <RytmenPinnen> !fix
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <rrmm> then i saw the lights go on so i typed in the right information
[10:48] <nu> did it, and still the effect is there
[10:48] <stoft> TheCreationist: if you're really worried, wait a month or so. personally I've had no  major problems with feisty, but obviously others have.
[10:48] <Yorokobi> !fixres > RytmenPinnen
[10:49] <LinkCanabico> nu ok let me check
[10:49] <ericsson> what was the definition update for clam?
[10:49] <nu> thaks much LinkCanabico
[10:49] <TheCreationist> stoft: I had a lot of serious problems with it...
[10:50] <RytmenPinnen> should I try to enable the drivers first?
[10:50] <Alarm> no error messages on the chddsk
[10:50] <Alarm> chkdsk
[10:50] <rrmm> anon32~ hoepfully when i reboot it will all work again so i can put it back in my room and fix my php/apache issue
[10:50] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, fix your xorg.conf first, make sure X still starts with the nv drivers, then change nv to nvidia and restart X.
[10:50] <ericsson> !fixres
[10:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:50] <RytmenPinnen> k
[10:51] <ericsson> Alarm: and still permission errors?
[10:51] <Alarm> yeap
[10:51] <nu> Alarm: still trying eh ?
[10:51] <Alarm> though i dont see anything wrong written like before in the dmesg
[10:51] <Alarm> nu hey :)
[10:51] <Alarm> yes
[10:52] <Alarm> just this : NTFS-fs warning (device sda1): load_system_files(): Volume has been modified by chkdsk.  Will not be able to remount read-write.  Mount in Windows.
[10:52] <nuu> there's a tool to clean it Alarm
[10:52] <LinkCanabico> nu sorry its all i have to do to make it work so no idea waths wrong
[10:52] <anon32> Alarm, so mount it in Windows
[10:52] <nuu> ntfsfix iirc
[10:53] <nuu> ntfsfix /dev/sda1 should avoid you mounting it in windows
[10:53] <ericsson> nuu: you need to tell us, we are a couple of us following the unfolding story with keen eyes ;)
[10:53] <anon32> Alarm, that basically means that the partition is in need of Windows' equivalent of a fsck
[10:53] <anon32> nuu, ntfsfix empties the journal and schedules Windows to run a chkdsk...
[10:53] <Yorokobi> Alarm, if you don't mind, take us back to the beginning. What are you trying to do, exactly?
[10:54] <nuu> hm, then perhaps it wasnt ntfsfix
[10:54] <amrush> hello ... I'm on KDE right now ... I have gnome installed but ever since i updated to Edgy Gnome doesn't work anymore ... just shows the splash screen then nothing happens afterwards only the mouse works  ... Can anyone help please?
[10:54] <Yorokobi> Alarm, or pm me the history
[10:54] <Alarm> Yorokobi, okie... i have an external hd usb disk with ntfs on it
[10:54] <Alarm> i want when i turn that thing on , to be automounted
[10:54] <Alarm> it doesnt
[10:54] <bart_> How do I install yamipod if not available in adept manager?
[10:54] <nuu> or actually, it was ntfsfix, but my problem was the "dirty journal" bit
[10:54] <nuu> so it fixed mine, but it wouldnt fix alarm's
[10:54] <Alarm> i get several errors like no permition to enter /media/win5 or that it is occupied
[10:55] <nuu> thanks for pointing that out anon32
[10:55] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install yamipod
[10:55] <Yorokobi> Alarm, so, you don't get the pop-up asking you if you want to open Konqueror in a new window (and other options)?
[10:55] <nuu> LinkCanabico: that's ok dont worry, thanks all the same
[10:55] <LinkCanabico> got to go good look Alarm
[10:56] <Alarm> Yorokobi,  i can see the files when i pmount it as a simple user. but once i swhich it off and on, i get that the /media/win5 is occupied
[10:56] <LinkCanabico> by nuu gl to you to
[10:56] <nuu> cheers buddy
[10:56] <Alarm> i do , but when i press on it i get an error
[10:56] <Alarm> lilalinux,  than you :)
[10:56] <Yorokobi> Alarm, you need to pumount/umount/eject it before unplugging it
[10:56] <Alarm> i get that the /media/win5 is occupied
[10:56] <nuu> i think i'll dream of win5 tonight
[10:56] <Alarm> even if i do that, i get that
[10:56] <nuu> :P
[10:56] <Alarm> nuu imagine about me :)
[10:57] <nuu> i can guess Alarm!
[10:57] <ericsson> nuu: wet dreams..
[10:57] <nuu> haha ericsson
[10:57] <imagine> eewwww
[10:57] <bart_> Etokura, tried it but error saying could not find package yamipod
[10:57] <Etokura> Is that it's full name?
[10:57] <nuu> btw Alarm: when you tried those steps from a terminal, did it work out fine ? or same issues as in kde ?
[10:57] <Alarm> also , when i pmount it and enter in media:/ and press on the removable disk ,it takes me to system:/media/sda1
[10:58] <Etokura> Try sudo apt-get install yamipod*
[10:58] <Alarm> when i enter to /media/win5 , the dir is empty
[10:58] <nuu> sorry, i meant from a console
[10:58] <ericsson> bah, I can't remember the avclam updater? was is fresh-clam or something like that?
[10:58] <Alarm> nuu same
[10:58] <nuu> Alarm: but was kde stopped ?
[10:58] <Alarm> yes, console only
[10:58] <amrush> guys ... i need help
[10:58] <bart_> Etokura, same result
[10:58] <nuu> mmh, i see
[10:58] <ericsson> !ask | amrush
[10:59] <Etokura> Make sure you have multiverse enabled in software sources
[10:59] <amrush> hello ... I'm on KDE right now ... I have gnome installed but ever since i updated to Edgy Gnome doesn't work anymore ... just shows the splash screen then nothing happens afterwards only the mouse works  ... thanks in advance
[10:59] <ubotu> amrush: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:59] <Alarm> Yorokobi,  dont tell me u allready gave up ehehe
[10:59] <Yorokobi> Alarm, I have a problem with removing/ejecting USB media, not remounting it :)
[10:59] <ericsson> amrush: so, which one do you want to use?
[10:59] <bart_> Etokura, there is only a tar. gz file available on their website
[11:00] <Alarm> well call it however u want. i still cant mount it when i turn it on :)
[11:00] <Etokura> Download that
[11:00] <amrush> currently i want to use gnome ..
[11:00] <Alarm> i can mount it , but manualy , not automatically
[11:00] <Etokura> And then if you want a .deb file, do sudo apt-get install alien
[11:00] <Yorokobi> Alarm, what if you change the USB port its plugged into?
[11:00] <don> i tried two diff ways in console to change resolution got another
[11:00] <stoft> Alarm: did you try removing the dir /media/win5 before the replugging, like ddaedalus said?
[11:00] <Etokura> It can convert tar.gz files to .deb
[11:00] <ericsson> amrush: you could try to simply do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and see if it fixes it for you..
[11:00] <bart_> Etokura, i suppose you then have to do ./configure make make install?
[11:00] <Alarm> !paste
[11:01] <amrush> tried that
[11:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:01] <Etokura> No, just download alien and convert it that way
[11:01] <Alarm> stoft,  yes i did. then it couldnt open /media/win5
[11:01] <Etokura> Use sudo alien Filename.tar.gz
[11:01] <stoft> ok
[11:01] <Alarm> and here a part of my dmesg
[11:01] <Alarm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18478/
[11:02] <Alarm> Yorokobi,  same
[11:02] <amrush> ericsson: I tried that .. .didn't work
[11:02] <Etokura> Try sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <ericsson> amrush: does the gnome-panel or gnome-session work then?
[11:03] <amrush> ericsson how can i check out ?
[11:03] <ericsson> hui, terrible lagging around here..
[11:04] <bart_> Etokura, ok now I have a deb generated file
[11:04] <Etokura> Right now try to install it
[11:04] <Etokura> It should be in /home/user/
[11:05] <ericsson> amrush: first, as Etokura suggested, try sudo apititude reinstall ubuntu-desktop, if that doesn't help, then try sudo apt-get install gnome-session
[11:05] <bart_> Etokura, that's right
[11:05] <Alarm> i feel so helpless hehe
[11:05] <ericsson> Alarm: you are brave :)
[11:05] <amrush> ok ... brb .. i finished reinstalling i will try to check it out
[11:05] <Etokura> Did it install alright?
[11:06] <amrush> no errors popped up
[11:06] <ericsson> pah, with what would I open some stupid .chm files? :)
[11:06] <bart_> Etokura, hold on
[11:06] <Alarm> kchmviewer
[11:06] <Etokura> Okay
[11:06] <ericsson> amrush: kill x and try to re-login
[11:06] <amrush> ok .. brb
[11:06] <Alarm> it opens it in konqueror
[11:06] <LjL> ericsson: "apt-cache search keywords" always helps.
[11:07] <ericsson> LjL: depends on how well my memory works though..
[11:07] <Alarm> ericsson,  try the app i told u
[11:08] <ericsson> Alarm: I'll check that one out..
[11:08] <Alarm> i use it also, it does what u want
[11:08] <bart_> Etokura, i did the install but don't know where it went
[11:08] <Etokura> Look in your kde menu
[11:08] <bart_> Etokura,  oh i'm using kununtu feisty
[11:08] <Etokura> Or try yamipod in a console
[11:09] <blekos> whould you mind explaining smg? When I first install Ubumtu i was asked for a usrname & password. Now I've done sudo su and changed the root psswd
[11:09] <blekos> but when I run smg it need root pswd e.g firestarter I enter my account's psswd
[11:09] <Alarm> ericsson,  do u accept private messages ?
[11:09] <blekos> wasnt I supposed to enter the root's psswd?
[11:10] <ericsson> Alarm: I would guess...haven't changed settings..
[11:10] <Etokura> Root account is disabled by default
[11:10] <Etokura> You just use your account password
[11:10] <Alarm> seems my messages are ignored :)
[11:10] <Alarm> if u cannot read what i am writing u now
[11:10] <blekos> but then, if I create a new user will the new user be able to install things?
[11:10] <Etokura> Yes
[11:11] <Etokura> You use that user's password too
[11:11] <ericsson> nah, I just don't wanna talk to 'ya! No, seriously, hold on, I'll check the settings..
[11:11] <Sanne> !root | blekos
[11:11] <ubotu> blekos: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:11] <blekos> but i dont want that user to be able to do so
[11:11] <Alarm> pls talk to me, or else i am gonna wish u to have the same problem with ur external drive hehehe :)
[11:12] <Yorokobi> blekos, a newly created user cannot use sudo
[11:13] <ericsson> Alarm: I can't find any settings in Konversation that even implies that I can allow/disallow private peep-sh...sorry..chats..
[11:14] <ericsson> ah, blocked due to spam
[11:14] <redfive> is wine noe avaible in7.04? aptget says it dont exist
[11:14] <stoft> ericsson: if you tire of kchm-something there's also xchm.
[11:14] <Alarm> nice
[11:15] <Yorokobi> !info wine | redfive
[11:15] <ubotu> redfive: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[11:15] <Alarm> ericsson,  i wanted to ask u if you could paste me my very first lines when i entered where i explain my problem
[11:15] <ubuntu> Hi again
[11:15] <Alarm> so i could just paste it in a forum
[11:15] <Alarm> if not i will have to write it again :)
[11:15] <redfive> why caint i see it on adept?
[11:15] <Yorokobi> redfive, you have enable the universe repository
[11:16] <RytmenPinnen> ok I fixed the xorg file but now my system wont boot
[11:16] <Alarm> RytmenPinnen,  put back the backup file of xorg you got
[11:16] <Alarm> or reconfigure xorg
[11:16] <ericsson> you mean when you explained your problem?
[11:17] <Alarm> yeap
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> it gets to the loading screen but then it goes black
[11:17] <Alarm> at the very begining
[11:17] <redfive> well, evertthing it uncomented and still caont find it
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> can I do that with the live cd
[11:17] <stoft> Alarm: do you remember what time it was?
[11:17] <Alarm> RytmenPinnen,  reconfigure it
[11:17] <Etokura> bart_, Did you get it working?
[11:17] <Alarm> for sure like 1 hour ago ?
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> how do I that form the live cd_
[11:17] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, use Alt-F1 and log in the cp you /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup-or-whatever to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then restart kdm
[11:17] <redfive> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe should ve uncomented for wine to show up?
[11:18] <stoft> Alarm: I'll see what I caan find.
[11:18] <Alarm> okie thanks
[11:18] <Alarm> it starts with "hello" :)
[11:18] <Alarm> ehehe
[11:18] <ericsson> ;)
[11:18] <Alarm> be right back, i must reboot
[11:18] <ericsson> Otherwise it's the short version
[11:18] <stoft> eheheh
[11:18] <Alarm> i will be back in a second
[11:18] <ericsson> [23:54]  <Alarm> Yorokobi, okie... i have an external hd usb disk with ntfs on it
[11:18] <ericsson> [23:54]  <Alarm> i want when i turn that thing on , to be automounted
[11:18] <RytmenPinnen> where shall I press alt f1
[11:18] <Alarm> nah, that was much more later :)
[11:19] <Alarm> should be something like 23:00
[11:19] <Alarm> or 22:50
[11:19] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, at the blank/black screen after your computer tries to start KDM
[11:19] <Alarm> too bad i dont keep logs
[11:19] <stoft> nice going ericsson, you're in a diff TZ though  :)
[11:19] <RytmenPinnen> ah so I cant do it from the live cd_ >o
[11:19] <ericsson> stoft: Yeah, I'm a bit behind, if that's what you mean :)
[11:19] <Alarm> true... 20:52 GMT ehehe
[11:20] <Yorokobi> RytmenPinnen, why would you use the LiveCD ?
[11:20] <RytmenPinnen> so I could ask you
[11:20] <Etokura> [12:39:31]  <Alarm> i got a problem mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i can only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.
[11:20] <Etokura> [12:39:43]  <Alarm> in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .
[11:20] <ericsson> I'll check the .log and see if I find something..
[11:20] <stoft> hehe
[11:20] <Yorokobi> oh ...
[11:20] <Alarm> there u go, lovely :)
[11:20] <ericsson> ah..
[11:20] <RytmenPinnen> ohwell ill try again
[11:20] <Alarm> Etokura,  thank you a lot for searching:)
[11:20] <ericsson> beat that microsoft support! ;)
[11:21] <Alarm> Etokura,  there must be 1 more big entry of me after that, am i right ? :)
[11:21] <Etokura> Heh
[11:21] <Alarm> if possible to paste that as well (auchh) :)
[11:21] <redfive> is there a way to reset the repositories?
[11:21] <Etokura> Let me check
[11:21] <ericsson> Alarm: there is soon a dedicated channel for you..
 when i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 as i said it works pretty well,. i can enter the partition,. but once i turn it of (even if i remove it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive
[11:22] <ericsson> #alarm_and_his_usb_nightmare__stories
[11:22] <MetaMorfoziS> http://kubunt.org/ -> fuck...
[11:22] <Alarm> sure #mount-alarm-usb-drive
[11:22] <LjL> !language | MetaMorfoziS
[11:22] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:22] <Alarm> Etokura,  thats it. thanks again :)
[11:22] <MetaMorfoziS> !fuck | LjL
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <Etokura> Has anyone heard anything about using the Helio media Mover with Kubuntu?
[11:23] <Alarm> be right back in a few minutes
[11:23] <Etokura> Or using the Helio as a usb drive
[11:23] <Etokura> It's not detected
[11:23] <ericsson> *poff*
[11:24] <redfive> what does Package wine has no installation candidate mean?
[11:24] <don> where can I get a list of console commands?
[11:24] <redfive> i have all respositories enabled
[11:24] <LjL> !cli > don    (don, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:25] <ericsson> don: man pages or http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[11:25] <Black_Cat> redfive - and did you fetch updates from all of them?
[11:25] <linucs> #kubuntu-it
[11:25] <don> thanks i want to check it out iscrew up ill reinstall
[11:26] <redfive> all of them?
[11:26] <redfive> just click fetch updates?
[11:27] <Black_Cat> redfive, that should be enough if they're enabled
[11:27] <wiz> hmm..
[11:27] <BluesKaj> I'm still  pi**ed that alsa has seen fit to block the pcm out on my pc...worked fine in edgy
[11:27] <redfive> wow, is there a way to reset the repository list?
[11:28] <redfive> looks like others have this problem, i googled it
[11:28] <amrush> etokura .. I'm back still still doesn't work ..
[11:28] <amrush> that is to be ubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <BluesKaj> yes redfive. you can add repos into the sources list
[11:28] <Etokura> Hum
[11:28] <alexander> Hi guys. Im yet another new Linux user :D
[11:28] <Etokura> Try sudo apt-get install gnome-session
[11:29] <alexander> or atleast new Ubuntu user
[11:29] <Etokura> Hi
[11:29] <alexander> How are ya'll doing?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> fine alexander, what's up ?
[11:29] <alexander> Just getting used to this fine OS
[11:29] <amrush> etokura .. it's already installed
[11:30] <redfive> is there a repo for wine?
[11:30] <Etokura> Try  sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-session
[11:30] <Etokura> Afterwards just log out(CTRL+ALT+Backspace) and try to log into gnome
[11:30] <RytmenPinnen> wonderbar
[11:31] <linucs> Qualcuno mi pu aiutare con la conofigurazione di firefox?
[11:31] <stoft> !it | linucs
[11:31] <ubotu> linucs: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:31] <amrush> if it doesn't work i will have to restart the computer
[11:31] <Alarm> ok i fixed it
[11:31] <Alarm> ok dont get scared :)
[11:31] <Etokura> Great
[11:31] <Alarm> now i got problems with time hehehe
[11:31] <stoft> Alarm: wb
[11:31] <alexander> Anyone interested in helping me abit?
[11:31] <Alarm> i didnt fix anything, i turned it of :)
[11:31] <|ericsson|> bah, nightmare finding unregistered nicks ;)
[11:31] <linucs> puoi dirmi come faccio a cambiare canale?
[11:31] <Etokura> With what alexander
[11:31] <|ericsson|> !ask | alexander
[11:32] <ubotu> alexander: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:32] <BluesKaj> alexander: just ask
[11:32] <Alarm> although xchat shows the right time, and when i "adjust time & date" have the correct, time , in the task bar i get 3 forward. when i change it , it messes it up and shows 29 april 21:00
[11:32] <Alarm> i did change the timezone and did put athens
[11:32] <|ericsson|> Alarm: :=
[11:32] <Alarm> my lucky day today ehehe
[11:32] <alexander> Installing VLC and other programs. Finding sound driver and graphics driver
[11:32] <Etokura> Alarm it may be your CMOS battery
[11:32] <Mutta> bonsoir
[11:32] <Alarm> hmm, true i didnt check for the bios.
[11:32] <Alarm> forgot about it
[11:32] <Alarm> i will
[11:32] <alexander> Something like apt-get install VLC right?
[11:32] <Alarm> be right back :)
[11:32] <Etokura> Yes
[11:33] <Mutta> ya quelqu'un qui parles franais?
[11:33] <stoft> linucs: scrivi "/j #ubuntu-it"
[11:33] <|ericsson|> !medibuntu | alexander
[11:33] <ubotu> alexander: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[11:33] <Mutta> ubuntu french channel???
[11:33] <RytmenPinnen> is there somekind of system restore
[11:33] <Sanne> alexander: you may find this helpful for an overview about software management in *buntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[11:33] <|ericsson|> alexander: Yes, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:33] <RytmenPinnen> I cant use the adept manager anymore for some reason
[11:33] <alexander> tnx guys
[11:34] <RytmenPinnen> its says there's another proces using it but I just logged in
[11:34] <Mutta> help french pleas???????????
[11:34] <|ericsson|> !fr | Mutta
[11:34] <ubotu> Mutta: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:34] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: You're not running apt in a terminal are you?
[11:34] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu-fr
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Mutta> thank ubotu :)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , sudo apt-get install pkgname , but make sure your universe multiverse repositories are uncommented ( #is removed from the repos)
[11:34] <Sanne> alexander: if you want to know the exact name of a package, you can use the command: 'apt-cache search <searchterm>' or search for the package at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <RytmenPinnen> nope I dont think so cause I logged in 10 seconds ago
[11:34] <Etokura> I had that problem
[11:35] <Etokura> I honestly don't remember what I did to solve it
[11:35] <Etokura> But try synaptic
[11:35] <RytmenPinnen> unless the terminal keeps running things forever and ever until you tell them to stop
[11:35] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: Not once you log out.  Are there other users logged in right now?
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> nope, I installed kubuntu today and its quite screwed up allready
[11:36] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: What version?
[11:36] <blekos> is there somewhere i could suggest kcontrol to be available in the Kmenu?
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> feisty
[11:36] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: And was it a fresh install?
[11:36] <don> I still need a command that will let me change resolution
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> yes
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> as fresh as it can be
[11:36] <Etokura> blekos use the menu editor
[11:37] <blekos> I tried to changes my image from System settitngs but it wasnt possible, i had to change smg from the kcontrol and then back to system settings
[11:37] <amigrave> how can I prevent kde desktop showing Remote Shares icons ? I tried to disable it in prefs -> Desktop Behaviour but the icons keep showing. (Note: I'm mounting using mount.cifs) Even if I uncjeck "Show device icons" in desktop behaviour it doesn't change anything
[11:37] <Sanne> blekos: you can add it to the panel as an applet. For the menu you need to make your own entry (as far as I know)
[11:37] <TheCreationist> RytmenPinnen: Okay, go to Kmenu -> System -> Performan Monitor
[11:37] <RytmenPinnen> I'm thinking about actually reinstalling again, and if things dont get right then I'll just end up going back to SUSE 10.0
[11:37] <blekos> yes I have added, but how on earthy a newbie will be able to find that it exists
[11:37] <Alarm> now thats weird. can the os change the cmos values ?
[11:37] <Alarm> as u said the date wasnt correct in the bios. changed it . reboot it and checked again the bios, the settings were saved
[11:37] <Sanne> blekos: I don't know, I don't make the distro ;)
[11:38] <Alarm> loged into kde ,and the date/time is again not ok
[11:38] <Etokura> Good to hear Alarm
[11:38] <Etokura> Oh
[11:38] <TheCreationist> Alarm: Do you have the correct time zone selected?
[11:38] <Alarm> when i go to adjust the time date i see the correct one, but on the task bar i see 3 hours forward
[11:38] <Alarm> yes athens
[11:38] <Etokura> Kill the clock and restart it
[11:39] <PCGenie> Hello there.....
[11:39] <Alarm> Etokura, how ? :)
[11:39] <devian_> THE GRUB after installation hanging after showing "GRUB loading stage1.5"....why the problem is creating ??
[11:39] <Etokura> Try killall orage
[11:39] <RytmenPinnen> cannot find performan monitor
[11:39] <Etokura> In a console
[11:39] <Alarm> orage: no process killed
[11:39] <Etokura> RytmenPinnen, kmenu - system - ksysguard
[11:40] <Etokura> I'm not sure what the clock is called
[11:40] <|ericsson|> ehh..oops, if I managed to shutdown a server which has a bootable CD in the drive, can I bypass that through use of SSH? :)
[11:40] <RytmenPinnen> and then?
[11:40] <RytmenPinnen> should I look in the process table?
[11:40] <Etokura> Look for a package manager already running
[11:40] <Etokura> And then kill it
[11:40] <Etokura> Yes in the processes
[11:41] <RytmenPinnen> dont have the permisson
[11:41] <Etokura> Click administrator mode
[11:41] <Etokura> Err nevermind
[11:42] <devian_> THE GRUB after installation hanging after showing "GRUB loading stage1.5"....why the problem is creating ??how can resolve it ??
[11:42] <amrush> etokura .. still doesn't work :S
[11:42] <Alarm> strange
[11:42] <Etokura> Find the name of the process and in a console type sudo killall process
[11:42] <Etokura> Hm
[11:42] <JohnFlux> !grub
[11:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:43] <JohnFlux> devian_: ^^ maybe those will help
[11:43] <Etokura> Does it hang on the countdown?
[11:45] <Alarm> Etokura,  just found out that the os can change the bios values
[11:45] <redfive> i think i found my problem with installing wine, im using kubuntu amd64
[11:45] <amrush> etokura .. u seem to be u seem to be flooded ..
[11:45] <devian_> Thanks looking :)
[11:45] <epimeth> anybody know if autdesk rivet works with wine?
[11:46] <Etokura> amrush what exactly happens when you start up gnome?
[11:46] <don> that will do it you can still use wine just more complicated
[11:46] <RytmenPinnen> bleh this is too much, is there a way to rollback the system a couple of hours? or do I have to reinstall?
[11:46] <redfive> anyone know if you can get java and flash to work in konqueror native on amd64?
[11:47] <heinkel_111> redfive: yes you can
[11:47] <heinkel_111> redfive, that does not mean the same as "it's easy"
[11:47] <don> I ran i386 to avoid all that
[11:47] <just-this-time> \o
[11:47] <muzero> hi to all
[11:47] <amrush> splash screen finishes it's loading .. mouse changes it's theme bars body appear without icons, then suddenly disappear .. and i can do nothing .. not even restart kernel nor go out to a terminal ..
[11:47] <just-this-time> \o anyone tried http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html WUBI ?
[11:47] <redfive> i know i did it with firefox 32 bit
[11:48] <heinkel_111> redfive: i run it in firefox 64 that was not too hard
[11:48] <Etokura> Maybe it's a problem with gnome-panel
[11:48] <Etokura> Try sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-panel
[11:48] <redfive> how did you do it?
[11:48] <muzero> every time i start kubuntu, kubuntu start fsck!!! why?
[11:49] <heinkel_111> redfive: to do it with konqueror you need a patch to konqueror, nspluginwrapper (and some trial and error time)
[11:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there any little program I can use to see how much electricity my computer is using?
[11:49] <heinkel_111> redfive: try googling gwenole beauchesne's homepage, there you can find documentation
[11:49] <redfive> k, thanks!
[11:50] <heinkel_111> redfive: the only thing that is really irrritating is that Mandriva has all this worked out by default
[11:50] <redfive> how did you get flash to work in firefox 64?
[11:50] <heinkel_111> with the nspluginwrapper
[11:50] <heinkel_111> see gwenole beauchesne's homepage
[11:50] <redfive> ah, its a universal plugin
[11:50] <amrush> etokura .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18484/
[11:51] <heinkel_111> redfive: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper
[11:51] <heinkel_111> :)
[11:51] <heinkel_111> remember: i did not say easy ;-)
[11:51] <redfive> nice, thats how i like it
[11:51] <redfive> thanks again
[11:51] <heinkel_111> my pleasure
[11:51] <RytmenPinnen> this is enough for today, I think I reinstall kubuntu tomorrow... I have to say it but feisty fawn has been a big disappointment so far, The only thing that was really good was the intallation itself from there it went down down down.. Unless I get it right tomorrow I'll go back to suse
[11:51] <Etokura> Are you using feisty?
[11:52] <amrush> no .. edgy
[11:52] <Etokura> Ah
[11:52] <don> what command in console change resolution?
[11:52] <Etokura> Maybe try removing it and then installing it
[11:52] <epimeth> do I need anything special to install Kubuntu on a tablet pc?
[11:52] <amrush> tried that ..
[11:52] <Etokura> Hm
[11:53] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: try "lm-sensors", i don't think most motherboards (or PSUs, actually) give you amperes consumed though
[11:53] <Black_Cat> goodnite.
[11:54] <PCGenie> Is there an easy way to download and install KDevelop in Kubuntu? i am not experienced in installing programs in the Linux environment
[11:55] <epimeth> PCGenie: two ways:
[11:55] <epimeth> 1) adept, search for KDevelop
[11:55] <epimeth> 2) apt-get
[11:55] <epimeth> 2) sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> Is there a decent utility for configuring special mouse buttons? I'm trying to use imwheel, but it isn't working too well
[11:56] <muzero> coco
[11:56] <ubuntu> alguien habla espaol??
[11:56] <ubuntu> :S
[11:56] <elcuco__> si
[11:56] <epimeth> !es | ubuntu
[11:56] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:56] <|ericsson|> anyone else had problems with bastille gui?
[11:57] <ubuntu> oke
[11:57] <muzero> every time i boot kubuntu starts fsck, why?!?!?!?!?!?!
[11:57] <ubuntu> thank
[11:57] <amrush> any other ideas .. etokura ?
[11:58] <Etokura> I'm trying to figure out what that error is
[11:58] <amrush> ok ... tyt
[11:58] <epimeth> do I need anything special to install Kubuntu on a tablet pc?
[11:59] <muzero> ciao ciccia
[11:59] <Etokura> Try sudo apt-get update
[12:00] <shad0w> heyoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
[12:00] <jose> NASSS
[12:00] <amrush> did it once today .. no new packages ...
[12:01] <Etokura> Alright, try sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/available and then sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <shad0w> are ppl actually here?
[12:01] <don> ya
[12:02] <jose> alguien me dice como instalar .tar??
[12:02] <shad0w> ya does anyone know any gud electronika music?
[12:02] <BluesKaj> !it
[12:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:02] <shad0w> buska pues loko
[12:03] <don> ola
[12:03] <BluesKaj> shad0w: this not the place to ask
[12:03] <shad0w> well who knows maybe some of them know some gud artists
[12:04] <Etokura> Code is good
[12:04] <Filthpig> uuuuuuuuh
[12:04] <Filthpig> I just downloaded the latest upgrades from apt
[12:04] <Etokura> Yes
[12:04] <luca> good day everyone
[12:05] <don> come on tell me command to change resolution maby I will try another card
[12:05] <Sanne> shad0w: try in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:05] <Filthpig> and now I cannot enter any directories from konqueror
[12:05] <luca> has anyone here activated the nvidia-glx-new driver and configured it for using glx?
[12:05] <shad0w> thanks :D
[12:05] <amrush> etokura: .. done ...
[12:05] <VSpike> This is pretty wierd.  First konqueror session I open is fine, but any subsequent ones are missing the "location" toolbar, and it doesn't appear in the toolbar list either...
[12:05] <Etokura> Now try to sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-panel
[12:06] <VSpike> but if I close all of them, and open again, the first one is OK, but again subsequent ones are broken
[12:06] <Etokura> The location toolbar?
[12:06] <VSpike> Etokura: yeah
[12:06] <VSpike> Etokura: the useful one
[12:07] <Etokura> The one with history, Bookmarks, Amarok and such?
[12:07] <don> guess my  troubles are small next to you guys
[12:07] <Powerking89670> Can anyone tell me what I must do to upgrade to Fiesty from Dapper, I know I must go through Edgy (I had to with Ubuntu anyway) but how do I get to edgy :p.
[12:07] <shad0w> what exactly are your troubles again?
[12:07] <VSpike> Etokura: I think that's the navigation panel
[12:07] <Etokura> There's a guide on the official ubuntu site
[12:07] <Chris73> Don: what are your troubles?
[12:07] <Etokura> Let me see VSpike
[12:08] <don> resolution
[12:08] <amrush> etokura .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18486/
[12:08] <Alarm> |ericsson| u here dude ??
[12:08] <Chris73> don: in  kde?
[12:08] <don> nvida card
[12:08] <shad0w> oooohhhh
[12:08] <VSpike> Etokura: I'm talking about the toolbar with back, forward, up, home, refresh, view, search...
[12:08] <VSpike> Etokura: location bar
[12:08] <don> cant change wont let me
[12:08] <Chris73> don: what do you mean? you've got a problem with the driver?
[12:09] <rrmm> anon32~ got my wifi working
[12:09] <|ericsson|> VSpike: ctrl+m?
[12:09] <Etokura> You did sudo apt-get update?
[12:09] <|ericsson|> Alarm: yeah, barely ;()
[12:09] <don> must be that is a nice card do way better than this
[12:09] <Alarm> i am selling u a usb ext drive
[12:09] <Chris73> don: what are you running? feisty fawn?
[12:10] <Etokura> Haha Alarm
[12:10] <Filthpig> what on earth is going on here :s
[12:10] <|ericsson|> Alarm: rotfl
[12:10] <Alarm> :)
[12:10] <amrush> ya
[12:10] <don> i would not mind but things are way too big
[12:10] <|ericsson|> Alarm: have you given up on that one now or what?
[12:10] <Alarm> for tonight yes
[12:10] <Filthpig> has anyone upgraded recently?
[12:10] <don> ya 7.04 brand new install
[12:10] <Etokura> Hum.. try sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:10] <Alarm> i will try tomorrow again
[12:10] <Filthpig> with all repositories open?
[12:11] <Alarm> al pacino now is more important on the devils advocate role
[12:11] <amrush> no new packages
[12:11] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I'm sure that it will work, question is just when/how and why :)
[12:11] <Alarm> i love the last monologue
[12:11] <Chris73> don: and you cannot select your monitor and card in kcontrol?
[12:11] <don> can i switch nv drivers to something better
[12:11] <|ericsson|> Alarm: brilliant movie that one, doesn't even contain studip USB drives..
[12:11] <VSpike> |ericsson|: thanks, but that's the menu
[12:12] <don> no the highest setting was 6oo and something
[12:12] <|ericsson|> VSpike: so is it settings -> locationbar you're after?
[12:12] <VSpike> stranger still, the bug only seems to apply to some links to directories I have on the desktop.
[12:12] <Chris73> don: did you install the nvidia-glx-new package?
[12:12] <don> must be a command in console to change it
[12:13] <Filthpig> I upgraded some python-stuff and some other stuff (didn't bother to see what).. And now I cannot enter any directory from konqueror, beryl leaves marks on the screen (appears to be shadows) after I've opened a folder on the "k-menu" and stuff just crashed
[12:13] <Alarm> vanity is defenetely my favourit sin
[12:13] <don> i did but i see no effect
[12:13] <VSpike> |ericsson|: Yes, except in the broken ones, that is not even there...
[12:13] <don> the one in adept
[12:13] <|ericsson|> don: is it a new or old card?
[12:13] <don> old
[12:13] <don> tnt
[12:13] <Chris73> don; do sudo kwrite and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf