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DeepB!universe02:31
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource02:31
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ToHellWithGAdudes.  where can one find specs for new releases?  i'd really like to see if the pdiff apt update can be part of gutsy03:43
ToHellWithGAi was really impressed with the tiny differential updates to apt releases in etch03:43
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RAOFhttps://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/03:45
RAOFToHellWithGA: Also, I think that's been discussed, and there are some differences in the way Debian/Ubuntu works (for example, Debian repos get updated at most once a day)03:45
ToHellWithGAah, i didn't realize the debian stuff was not updated more often03:46
ToHellWithGAi was so amped about the tiny overhead involved03:46
ToHellWithGAbut so very not into the seemingly old versions of everything03:46
Toma-are you looking at unstable?03:47
ToHellWithGAgoing from feisty to etch seems to step everything backwards03:47
Toma-RAOF: thats for beta testers :>03:47
ToHellWithGAToma-: when i did s/unstable/testing/ or whatever to get the newest debian it was so lame03:47
ToHellWithGAabout 10MB of difference between the two03:47
Toma-yeh testing is like enabling ubuntu-proposed03:48
ToHellWithGAi don't recall the exact names of their versions.  stable and testing and unstable or whatever03:48
ToHellWithGAi was so let down by it03:48
ToHellWithGAi thought to myself, "self, this ubuntu thing is pretty sweet and it is debian-based.  maybe debian is sweet."03:49
RAOFToHellWithGA: You want "experimental".  That's where all the *crazy* stuff goes :)03:49
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ToHellWithGAlol RAOF03:53
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ToHellWithGARAOF: i can't get that site04:13
Toma-Hes a beta tester04:13
Toma-*jealous*04:13
Toma-https://blueprints.launchpad.net/04:14
Toma-for all us lesser people :D04:14
RAOFOh, I thought that "auto forward non-beta-users" wishlist had been fixed :)04:16
ToHellWithGAlol04:16
ToHellWithGAi tried to sign in04:16
ToHellWithGAthen it told me i was fail04:16
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fqhhi ,evryone04:20
nomasteryodafqh, howdy04:20
fqhwhat is a "return"? It seems not a routine? It will call the "exit"?04:22
ToHellWithGAfqh: holla04:22
ToHellWithGAdude, we're gonna need some context04:22
Toma-RAOF: how do you get a bug changed to a wishlist?04:22
RAOFToma-: Be a part of ubuntu-qa, or ask someone who is.  But it probably will get done by people going through triaging anyway.04:23
Toma-ahh ok04:23
RAOFToma-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage?highlight=%28triage%2904:23
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Toma-Ive never quite understood the difference between blueprints and wishlists04:26
RAOFWishlist bugs are supposed to be easy to implement.04:26
RAOFBlueprints are things that need actual work :)04:26
Toma-Ahh. Ok. This is a wishlist then :)04:26
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ToHellWithGAi couldn't find the one i was looking for04:33
ToHellWithGAnone mentioned the pdiff updates to debian in what i saw :/04:33
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Toma-omg. damn launchpad!05:12
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Toma-https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/launchpad-voting-system05:17
Toma-woohoo!05:17
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starzeh05:47
starzso how can i get gutsy in now ?05:47
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starzback....06:06
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spasticteapotHello!07:44
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spasticteapotI'm curious if any of the speed tweaks found in various parts of the Ubuntu forums will be applied to 7.10.07:44
RAOFAny ones in particular?07:51
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Hobbseespasticteapot: depends if they break anything else08:15
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grendelanyone from ubuntu kernel around?09:19
grendelthere's a problem with the asm/*.h stubs in linux-libc-dev, I wonder if anyone is aware of that09:20
RAOFYup, known issue09:21
RAOFAt least, it's known that linux-libc-dev is broken.09:21
grendelany fix already available or should I modify/recompile myself?09:21
grendelRAOF: it's a very simple issue, actually :)09:22
RAOFI think we're just waiting for a kernel rebuild.09:25
grendelah, ok09:27
grendelI see the issue is that the backticks didn't work in scripts/Makefile.headersinst, correct?09:27
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RAOFHeh, no idea09:28
grendelFNAME=$(patsubst $(INSTALL_HDR_PATH)/$(_dst)/%,%,$@)                    \09:28
grendelSTUBDEF=__ASM_STUB_`echo $$FNAME | tr a-z.- A-Z__`;                     \09:28
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grendelRAOF: those two lines seem to have failed in the makefile09:28
grendelRAOF: anyhow, once the kernel is rebuild, will it be available in archive.ubuntu.com?09:29
grendels/rebuild/rebuilt/09:29
RAOFYup, presumably09:29
grendelsweet, one last question - any eta? :)09:29
RAOFPfft.  Like I know :)09:32
grendelhehe :)09:32
jussi01grendel: there never is an eta.... when its fixed, its fixed :P09:33
grendeljussi01: eta for rebuild :)09:33
jussi01:P09:33
grendeljussi01: if it's too long, I'll just rebuild myself - that's why I asked :)09:33
jussi01grendel: I was playin with yer...:P09:34
grendeljussi01: I'm kinda slow today, bitten by allergy - not very clever because of that :D09:35
jussi01ah, sure mate. np's09:35
jussi01:D09:35
grendel:)09:35
grendelthanks guys, have a nice day :)09:37
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humboltowhat is the status of pulseaudio in feisty? is it the default already?12:23
finalbetaIt's not12:24
finalbetaI guess it's fully packaged and usable.12:24
finalbetahumbolto: and Feisty is in #ubuntu, this is for the dev version, gusty12:25
finalbetagutsy12:25
humboltoanyhow, what about gusty. I presume pulseaudio is not the default in feisty yet, will it be in gusty?12:25
finalbetagutsy has no goal set for it yet.12:28
finalbetaBut I wouldn't count on it.12:28
humboltodo you know anything about it's current reliability?12:28
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humboltothere is a launchpad blueprint however, but it is not set as a goal yet: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cleanup-audio-jumble12:32
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finalbetahumbolto: Eventually they will change, but I wouldn't count on it this year.12:45
humboltoas long as it will be part of the next LTS! The next LTS must rock!12:46
finalbetaIf they implement all the specs they failed to get ready for Feisty, they will be busy enough for gutsy. (not being negative, just how it looks if you look at launchpad)12:46
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finalbetaThe next LTS will probably be Gutsy +112:47
finalbetaBut no official word on that.12:47
finalbetaFeisty specs page actually looks much more finished then I remembered it to be. Must just not have been updated.12:48
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humboltofinalbeta: pulseaudio is too important to not be part of the next LTS. If you happen to have any say in this, help pulseaudio to be accepted into gusty, so there can be some testing before LTS.01:00
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varianthumbolto: yeah, esd sucks01:10
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_eMaX_ne1 has ubuntu on 2.6.21?01:31
_eMaX_is there already a plan for after feisty (ubuntu+1)?01:37
Amaranth_eMaX_: gutsy currently has a kernel labeled 2.6.2201:42
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_eMaX_aha. a little recent, no?01:44
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Xemanthtoo long time to June 7t :|04:57
Xemanth7th*04:57
Toma-Whats the package name for the kernel on launchpad?05:00
Toma-nm!05:00
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thiesenAnyone knows when kernel 2.6.22 will become available??07:46
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Infectouu09:55
Infectohello09:55
Infectoi try to install fiesty09:56
Infectoand installer dont start automaticly09:56
Infectoany ideas ?09:56
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bur[n] erInfecto: try #ubuntu10:10
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omhahey10:45
omhawhen is the complete kernel with restricted modules expected?10:45
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omhafor 2.6.22 if I may add :)11:08
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ToHellWithGA12093 root      25   0  470m 140m 8096 R  100 14.4 454:38.44 Xorg12:03
ToHellWithGA 17:02:21 up 2 days,  8:38,  5 users,  load average: 1.13, 1.11, 1.0412:03
ToHellWithGAthat seems a little high, eh?12:03
ToHellWithGAfor some reason Xorg is pegging my cpu12:03
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