[12:22] <yharrow> troy_s: yeah its current
[12:22] <yharrow> hey lap
[12:23] <yharrow> troy_s: I built it yesterday
[12:23] <troy_s> good stuffs
[12:23] <yharrow> troy_s: took me 20 mins to build
[12:23] <troy_s> yharrow: THats your initial
[12:23] <troy_s> yharrow: svn up
[12:24] <troy_s> yharrow: make
[12:24] <troy_s> will take much less
[12:24] <troy_s> from now on
[12:24] <yharrow> 5 mins?
[12:24] <troy_s> well it will only compile object files that have changed now
[12:24] <troy_s> where you ended up compiling EVERYTHING when you do it the first time
[12:24] <yharrow> oh cool
[12:24] <troy_s> yharrow: Try it...
[12:24] <troy_s> yharrow: enter into the SVN dir
[12:24] <troy_s> type:
[12:24] <troy_s> yharrow: svn up
[12:24] <troy_s> yharrow: make
[12:25] <troy_s> yharrow: sudo make install
[12:25] <yharrow> ok
[12:25] <yharrow>  I got: At revision 14900.
[12:25] <troy_s> so no updates
[12:25] <troy_s> so if you ran a make
[12:25] <troy_s> you can see -- it won't 'remake'
[12:26] <troy_s> it just looks for new stuff and compiles it, then compiles the master binary
[12:26] <troy_s> very quick
[12:26] <troy_s> generally
[12:26] <yharrow> its just saying "Nothing to be done for all"
[12:26] <yharrow> troy_s: yeah was very queick
[12:27] <yharrow> troy I enabled color management as well
[12:29] <troy_s> yharrow: Ditto
[12:29] <troy_s> yharrow: LCMS is awsome
[12:29] <troy_s> you can also try lprof
[12:29] <yharrow> yeah!
[12:29] <troy_s> which is a gui fo it.
[12:29] <yharrow> whats that?
[12:29] <troy_s> and works great
[12:29] <yharrow> lprof?
[12:29] <troy_s> sudo aptitude install lprof
[12:29] <troy_s> check it out.
[12:30] <yharrow> looks like a qt3 app
[12:34] <troy_s> yharrow: It is very good.  If you have a registered profile you can use predefined estimates to get colour management in place
[12:34] <troy_s> even better
[12:35] <troy_s> you can use an it8 target
[12:35] <troy_s> to generate profiles for your local cameras / scanners /etc
[12:36] <troy_s> (although I am always of the mind that you MUST test the workflow by validating the results with sources and references)
[12:36] <yharrow> troy_s: ok its installed...
[12:37] <yharrow> troy_s: gonna check it out now
[12:40] <yharrow> troy_s: it looks complicated
[12:43] <troy_s> yharrow: Color management is complicated on many levels
[12:43] <troy_s> ultimately, all it really assures is that you can theoretically have your work look right on an output
[12:44] <troy_s> most directors of photography
[12:44] <yharrow> troy_s: I am unsure of what color management really is.
[12:44] <troy_s> yharrow: I'll explain in a bit... tad busy just for a few seconds.
[12:44] <yharrow> ok talk to you in a few
[01:59] <troy_s> yharrow: Sorry -- shitey time coordination on my end.
[02:49] <yharrow> troy_s:  oh ok , I understand
[02:56] <jrib> Hello, does anyone know of an ascii ubuntu logo?
[02:58] <psymon101> not off the top of my head
[02:58] <psymon101> yet you can get bitmap to acsii converters
[02:59] <psymon101> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_pbmtoascii.htm
[03:00] <jrib> psymon101: thanks
[03:00] <psymon101> that should do the trick
[03:00] <psymon101> no problem
[03:00] <jrib> I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403558 which includes one as well
[03:00] <psymon101> coolio...
[03:00] <psymon101> it should be pretty accurate
[03:01] <psymon101> since the logo isnt exactly complex
[03:03] <psymon101> What really would be cool is an app which scales ascii art :)
[03:04] <psymon101> Just doing to browsing on Deviant art... this chaps art is exceptional.. http://videa.deviantart.com/gallery/
[03:04] <jrib> that is impressive, and I haven't even clicked on one to look closer yet
[03:05] <psymon101> lol
[03:06] <psymon101> just trying to decide which one is going to be on my background:) I like the one with the girl looking at a hand mirror.. but I am sure I would get frowns from my clients if I opened my laptop up to that:)
[04:05] <yharrow> his stuff looks intensely  3d
[04:06] <yharrow> Im going to assume that it was done in raster
[04:06] <yharrow> which makes it all that muchmore of a feat
[04:06] <yharrow> it looks way to detailed to be either 3d or svg
[04:07] <yharrow> but It could be svg
[04:44] <troy_s> that's all 3d
[04:44] <troy_s> and a little of the 2d mixed media stuff.
[11:52] <Daviey> Hi, our loco is considering national press advertising
[11:52] <Daviey> Is there anybody interested in helping with the artwork
[11:53] <Daviey> ?
[11:55] <Madpilot> Daviey, best bet is to mail the artwork team's mailing list - far busier than this channel
[11:55] <Daviey> Madpilot, thanks
[01:55] <yharrow> hi kwwii
[01:55] <yharrow> hey lapo
[01:55] <kwwii> howdy
[01:56] <lapo> yo guys
[02:01] <yharrow> kwwii: been busy this past week?
[02:01] <yharrow> i wonder if they had anything in open week related to art
[03:41] <elkbuntu> hey kwwii. people are asking for cd artwork, anywhere to point them?
[03:59] <kwwii> elkbuntu: I do not have acces to the right page...I'll see that it goes up next week
[04:00] <elkbuntu> kwwii, any chance you could email the stuff to me? that way i can pass it on as requested?
[04:01] <kwwii> elkbuntu: it is several hundred MB and I still have to sort it out
[04:01] <elkbuntu> kwwii, ah ok. fair enough
[04:02] <kwwii> I can point you to my site where I put up two images for ubuntu (the Cd and the wallet) if you'd like to do it though
[04:03] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/Ubu_704_PC.pdf
[04:03] <kwwii> and Ubu_CD_704.eps
[04:03] <elkbuntu> yeah, that's great. it's what most are looking for. ta
[04:03] <kwwii> I think that the eps is rendered to a pic though, so there are no paths in it
[04:04] <kwwii> I've all the pics used to make those pics too, but I'll have to sort them out, etc
[04:04] <kwwii> I also have the other derivs stuff too, but again, that will be done sometime next week
[04:05] <elkbuntu> yep. i'll make sure to harrass you next week :
[04:13] <troy_s> kwwii: Ugh
[04:24] <kwwii> troy_s: ?
[04:30] <troy_s> kwwii: That packaging.
[04:31] <troy_s> kwwii: Well it is at least consistent in the same way that Windows has the apparent gaudy consistency going for it.  :)
[04:31] <kwwii> troy_s: well, I didn't make that stuff this time around
[04:31] <troy_s> kwwii: I know
[04:31] <troy_s> kwwii: I can tell
[04:31] <kwwii> we've a new marketing-manager, perhaps that will change
[04:31] <troy_s> kwwii: It has the trademark 'cheeseball' feeling that has been going for a good 6 releases
[04:32] <troy_s> kwwii: Well that's positive.  Who is it?
[04:32] <kwwii> can't remeber his name...just got a mail about it the other day
[04:32] <kwwii> I haven't read my emails in a few days and they are backing up so I only skim them
[04:33] <elkbuntu> some of the models in the photo are the same as old wallet photos
[04:33] <troy_s> elkbuntu: It goes beyond that.
[04:33] <elkbuntu> troy_s,  i only glanced ;)
[04:33] <troy_s> elkbuntu: It appears to capitalize on the rather cliched cheeseball nature that shuttlebot clings to.
[04:33] <troy_s> (not to mention that the photo is so Sears wallet photo)
[04:34] <troy_s> (as you said lol)
[04:34] <troy_s> it is actually funny
[04:34] <troy_s> in a sick dark accident sort of way
[04:34] <troy_s> I heard about the new marketing campaigns:
[04:35] <troy_s> Ubuntu - Linux for People Who Like Cheese.
[04:35] <nysosym> hmm what are u talking about?
[04:35] <troy_s> nysosym: You probably don't want to know.
[04:36] <nysosym> why not?
[04:42] <nysosym> what looks like cheese in ubuntu?
[04:43] <troy_s> lol
[04:43] <elkbuntu> desktop effects code :
[04:45] <nysosym> hehe, don't get me wrong but why do u kidding me?
[04:53] <troy_s> elkbuntu: Amen sister.
[04:53] <troy_s> nysosym: Scroll back
[04:54] <troy_s> nysosym: http://sinecera.de/Ubu_704_PC.pdf
[04:54] <troy_s> More of the same shitey poorly directed and poorly communicated design.
[04:54] <elkbuntu> troy_s, at least kwwii has a full release cycle to weave his magic this time
[04:55] <troy_s> elkbuntu: Depends on magic I suppose.
[04:55] <troy_s> elkbuntu: The problem is systemic however.
[04:55] <elkbuntu> troy_s, 'better than that'
[04:56] <elkbuntu> yeah, i know, but we need to have hope
[04:56] <troy_s> elkbuntu: I don't know.  I think the best hope is from the community getting vocal -- by community I mean community at large.
[04:56] <troy_s> elkbuntu: Notice how much press there was about Ubuntu's look for Feisty?
[04:56] <troy_s> zero
[04:57] <troy_s> elkbuntu: At the very least, offer work that offers some visceral emotional response -- love or hate or _something_.
[04:58] <elkbuntu> he had horrifically limited time, since he only started in january
[04:59] <troy_s> elkbuntu: I don't think the time is an issue.
[04:59] <troy_s> elkbuntu: In terms of a polish it would be... again, it is symptomatic of a company that doesn't place value on art and design.
[05:00] <troy_s> elkbuntu: The reason I wouldn't cite time is because you could probably draw comparisons to the other K thing.
[09:19] <jrib> /wc/wc