| superm1 | yes | 12:41 |
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| superm1 | gnome has a process manager | 12:41 |
| superm1 | System->Administration->System Monitor | 12:41 |
| williammanda | ty | 12:44 |
| williammanda | trying to setup wireless unit | 12:45 |
| williammanda | a low end unit | 12:45 |
| williammanda | sdtv only | 12:46 |
| superm1 | ah | 12:46 |
| williammanda | does video automatically come out of the super video port on the video card or do I need to setup the xorg.conf file? | 01:42 |
| williammanda | this would be foe 7.04...xorg 7.2 | 01:43 |
| superm1 | super video port? | 01:47 |
| williammanda | ya...the little round connector | 01:48 |
| williammanda | usually a black cable | 01:48 |
| superm1 | oh svideo - does that really mean super video? | 01:48 |
| superm1 | never knew | 01:48 |
| williammanda | yes it does | 01:48 |
| williammanda | it was the big thing in it's day | 01:49 |
| superm1 | i must be young :) | 01:49 |
| williammanda | yes i think so :) | 01:49 |
| superm1 | it won't come out automatically | 01:49 |
| superm1 | you'll need to configure tv-out | 01:49 |
| superm1 | easiest way to do it is with nvidia-settings | 01:49 |
| superm1 | its installed with the nvidia proprietary driver | 01:49 |
| williammanda | i have a ati x1650 card | 01:50 |
| superm1 | then aticonfig is your way to go | 01:50 |
| williammanda | i'm using the vesa driver | 01:50 |
| superm1 | tv out won't be supported unless you use the fglrx driver | 01:50 |
| superm1 | afaik | 01:50 |
| williammanda | hummm | 01:51 |
| williammanda | i get wierd things when using the restricted driver | 01:51 |
| superm1 | like weird colors and such? | 01:52 |
| williammanda | transparent windows that don't over write | 01:52 |
| williammanda | the previous text... | 01:52 |
| superm1 | yup good ol' buggy ATI | 01:52 |
| williammanda | so I have text piled upon text | 01:52 |
| superm1 | could you pop in an nvidia card? | 01:53 |
| superm1 | even a so so one | 01:53 |
| williammanda | maybe...i was wanted to use the ati card here...it has been collecting dust | 01:53 |
| superm1 | there was a reason majoridiot was willing to give away his ati x*** series card a few weeks ago :) | 01:55 |
| williammanda | when using the svideo can I use the other digital video port for the computer? | 01:55 |
| superm1 | yes | 01:55 |
| williammanda | so I won't need to modofy the xorg file at all? | 01:55 |
| superm1 | aticonfig will do it all for you | 01:56 |
| superm1 | you just need to look for the correct options that you are wanting | 01:56 |
| williammanda | k | 01:56 |
| superm1 | but if you use nvidia, then its all thru a really sweet gui app | 01:56 |
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| rogue780|laptop | hi everybody! | 01:56 |
| superm1 | hi rogue780|laptop | 01:57 |
| rogue780|laptop | que paso?! | 01:57 |
| rogue780|laptop | I'm happy I got my laptop running again :O) | 01:57 |
| superm1 | its just that crunch time for me... .finals this week and then freedom (and more mythtv time ) | 01:57 |
| superm1 | :) | 01:57 |
| rogue780|laptop | what courses are you taking? | 01:57 |
| rogue780|laptop | I'm about to reload my mythtv frontend with feisty | 01:58 |
| rogue780|laptop | I heard there's a website for mythbuntu now? is that true? | 01:58 |
| superm1 | a comp architectures course discussing mips, a EM course, technical writing, senior design, senior portfolio, non discrete math / algorithms | 01:58 |
| superm1 | its on its way up | 01:59 |
| superm1 | as soon as my finals are done, i've got a whole week to put towards it | 01:59 |
| rogue780|laptop | nice. I'm starting my BS in CS...have about 20 credits towards it | 01:59 |
| rogue780|laptop | hoping to get it half done before I get out of the air force in 3 years | 02:00 |
| superm1 | ah one of those folks ;0 | 02:00 |
| williammanda | ty for the help! | 02:01 |
| rogue780|laptop | what I really want is software engineering, but there aren't any universities that offer that around here for the price the airforce will pay (I get 100% tuition paid by the air force up to $250/credit hour and $4,500 a year) | 02:01 |
| superm1 | oh wow | 02:02 |
| superm1 | very nice | 02:02 |
| rogue780|laptop | then when I get out have have $40,000+ for college from my G.I bill | 02:02 |
| rogue780|laptop | I've already got two AA degrees | 02:02 |
| superm1 | your set here then dude | 02:03 |
| rogue780|laptop | anyway, I gotta do some work around the house...be back a little later | 02:03 |
| superm1 | k | 02:05 |
| williammanda | how can i get back to the vesa driver? The restricted didn't work...stuck at the console | 02:13 |
| rogue780|laptop | williammanda, in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf under device section change driver from nvidia, or fglx or whatever to vesa | 02:14 |
| williammanda | k ty | 02:14 |
| rogue780|laptop | or see if there is an xorg.conf.bak or .0 or .old or something....that might be your old working xorg.conf file | 02:15 |
| rogue780|laptop | anyone know where I can get libdvdcss2? | 02:15 |
| williammanda | from the medubuntu...if i spelled it right | 02:16 |
| williammanda | set it up in sources | 02:17 |
| superm1 | medibuntu has it yet | 02:18 |
| superm1 | i beleive | 02:18 |
| williammanda | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_media_Feisty | 02:18 |
| superm1 | yup | 02:18 |
| rogue780|laptop | awesome | 02:24 |
| rogue780|laptop | anyone know why they were ripped fro the standard sources and torn asunder? | 02:25 |
| superm1 | libdvdcss2? | 02:26 |
| rogue780|laptop | it's the codec required to play encrypted (every) dvd | 02:37 |
| rogue780|laptop | wtf?! I'm installing a commandline system on my myth frontend. it has no monitor, just the tv. everything looks good until I get into the actual setup--I think I see it mention something about a framebuffer...not sure because the screen starts scrolling vertically at an unreadable rate | 02:38 |
| rogue780|laptop | not sure what keyboard scheme I chose...I hope it wasn't dvorak | 02:39 |
| superm1 | rogue780|laptop, i wasnt sure if you were asking why libdvdcss2 wasnt in the repositories | 02:47 |
| superm1 | sounds like that framebuffer issue is trouble though - | 02:48 |
| rogue780|laptop | yeah, that's what I'm asking | 02:48 |
| rogue780|laptop | stupid unichrome | 02:48 |
| superm1 | its not in the repos because its questionable legality | 02:48 |
| rogue780|laptop | superm1, what would you think of a website that offered cash prizes to people/groups who accomplish specific software design projects... say $90,000 to create a graphics library that is comparable to dirextx9 and offers easy portability between windows and linux, or $500 to someone who creates a centralized LAMP server administration program | 02:54 |
| rogue780|laptop | do you think such an endeavor would go over well in the open source community? | 02:55 |
| superm1 | No i dont. | 02:55 |
| superm1 | bounties work much better with individual projects | 02:55 |
| superm1 | rather than a centralized server from what i have seen | 02:55 |
| rogue780|laptop | just a server administration program. it wouldn't change the server itself | 02:56 |
| superm1 | because then you have the direct approval of thepeople that regularly work with the project for the bounty to even go out | 02:56 |
| rogue780|laptop | and why would that be a problem? I mean, isn't the point of the opensource community to be able to build on each other's accomplishments? | 02:57 |
| superm1 | yes, but when you involve money things change | 02:57 |
| rogue780|laptop | all the code and projects would have to be under a certain license which gives people the ability to update, critique, and build off of the code...the money is just to provide incentive to push forward otherwise stagnant development in a positive direction | 02:59 |
| rogue780|laptop | I think that when you involve money and a reward system you would get a more standardized product. | 03:00 |
| williammanda | where is nvidia config located? | 03:01 |
| williammanda | for the restricted driver | 03:01 |
| superm1 | I see where you are coming from on this, but I can just see a lot of hostility forming among projects by doing this too | 03:01 |
| superm1 | i think the basic concept is there and can be experimented with a few smaller projects | 03:01 |
| superm1 | given that there is money there | 03:02 |
| superm1 | nvidia config? | 03:02 |
| superm1 | as in for nvidia-settings | 03:02 |
| williammanda | ok...what we were talking about earlier | 03:02 |
| superm1 | oh | 03:02 |
| williammanda | so I can setup the svideo | 03:02 |
| superm1 | run nvidia-settings | 03:02 |
| williammanda | console? | 03:02 |
| superm1 | it is also in the menus i think, but the command line to run it is nvidia-settings | 03:02 |
| superm1 | you have to be in a gui to do it | 03:02 |
| superm1 | or have the DISPLAY variable exported correctly | 03:03 |
| superm1 | over ssh to do it | 03:03 |
| williammanda | a tv resolution is 720*480 right? | 03:05 |
| rogue780|laptop | man that's weird...the setup had framebuffer issues, but so far the actual system doesn't | 03:06 |
| rogue780|laptop | weird | 03:06 |
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| superm1 | yes it should | 03:16 |
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| majoridiot | tgm4883_laptop: hey- guess what? | 03:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what? | 03:21 |
| majoridiot | my $@&%#@(%#@& cable co locked down ALL non-analog channels with CCI 0x02 friday morning | 03:21 |
| majoridiot | in markets in at least 3 states | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | :( | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | bastards | 03:22 |
| majoridiot | yeah | 03:22 |
| majoridiot | fighting like hell, tho... supposed to speak with a tech vp tomorrow. | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but it is the cable company and not the channel? | 03:23 |
| majoridiot | yup. the company. | 03:23 |
| majoridiot | all of your channels are still clear, right? | 03:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ill need to check when i get home | 03:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i was out of town this weekend | 03:24 |
| majoridiot | ah | 03:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | thats gonna tick me off if im locked down too | 03:27 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ill be downgrading my service | 03:27 |
| majoridiot | lemme know as soon as you find out, ok? it would be good info for the call. | 03:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | k | 03:29 |
| majoridiot | especially since you are comcast and my mso just got bought out by them | 03:30 |
| majoridiot | but they shut of at least my market and ones in indiana and kentucky | 03:30 |
| majoridiot | (the same day) | 03:32 |
| tgm4883_laptop | any specific channels I should check, or just random? | 03:35 |
| majoridiot | TVLand | 03:36 |
| majoridiot | :) | 03:36 |
| majoridiot | or any generic, non-premium (digital) channel | 03:37 |
| majoridiot | TNTHD would be nice to know, too | 03:37 |
| majoridiot | since that seems to be the ubiquitous clear HD channel | 03:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok | 03:37 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | majoridiot, is the dallas game on tnthd right now? | 04:24 |
| majoridiot | guide says basketball | 04:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok | 04:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | thats what my guide says too | 04:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and the game is on | 04:24 |
| majoridiot | yeah... mavericks and golden state | 04:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | im going to go into the diag menu to check for you | 04:25 |
| majoridiot | ty | 04:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what channels was i supposed to check again? | 04:25 |
| majoridiot | that one and tvland would be suficient | 04:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok | 04:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | whats the keyboard key for the guide? | 04:25 |
| majoridiot | in myth? | 04:26 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | S | 04:26 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok, now i just need to find tv land | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | it's 256 on mine | 04:26 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 04:27 |
| tgm4883_laptop | im trying to search zap2it, is there a show on there i could search for? | 04:28 |
| majoridiot | mash in on atm | 04:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok | 04:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 04:29 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not found | 04:29 |
| tgm4883_laptop | searched both mash and m.a.s.h. | 04:29 |
| majoridiot | m*a*s*h* | 04:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 04:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | just found it, although it is down in the analog channels (64) and no other channels | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | analog? | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | hm.... | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | now isn't THAT interesting. | 04:31 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | it's a digital-only package here. | 04:31 |
| tgm4883_laptop | tvlandp | 04:31 |
| majoridiot | hmmmm... | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | i've got a lot of questions for this guy now. | 04:32 |
| majoridiot | tyvm :) | 04:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | http://www.comcast.com/customers/clu/channelLineup.ashx | 04:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | here is the channel lineup page | 04:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | my zip is 97304 | 04:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and everything up to 72 + 98 is analog | 04:34 |
| majoridiot | ty | 04:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | np | 04:34 |
| majoridiot | hehe... hadda give a street address to access that. | 04:36 |
| majoridiot | it accepted 123 sesame street in salem | 04:36 |
| majoridiot | pretty similar except for tvland | 04:37 |
| majoridiot | interesting that it is a "premium" channel here, tho. | 04:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | very interesting | 04:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | im gonna go grab dinner, if you need me to do anything else, let me know | 04:39 |
| majoridiot | enjoy! | 04:39 |
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| williammanda | anyone awake? | 05:30 |
| williammanda | i can't get the nvidia-settings to save the tv setup | 05:34 |
| superm1 | run it as sudo | 05:48 |
| superm1 | sudo nvidia-settings | 05:48 |
| superm1 | and it will be able to | 05:48 |
| williammanda | i just got through doing that | 05:49 |
| williammanda | and the xorg file was good | 05:49 |
| williammanda | wasn't | 05:49 |
| williammanda | wonder if anyone has an example | 05:50 |
| superm1 | not on me. i'm on campus still. | 05:50 |
| williammanda | i remember those days | 05:51 |
| superm1 | and puter at home is suspended | 05:51 |
| williammanda | i'm too fat and old now to do that anymore | 05:51 |
| williammanda | :) | 05:51 |
| williammanda | can you send me an example by emaIL? | 05:51 |
| superm1 | i'm not going home tonite :) | 05:53 |
| superm1 | final tomorrow, and i'm gonna be up all night | 05:53 |
| williammanda | when you can ...thanks | 05:53 |
| superm1 | k | 05:53 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, there? | 07:29 |
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| Daviey | imbrandon, poke | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | Daviey, wasup ? | 12:59 |
| Daviey | hmm... | 12:59 |
| Daviey | did a 'test' yesterday | 01:00 |
| Daviey | hammed the server with about 100 refreshes. | 01:00 |
| Daviey | s/hammered | 01:00 |
| Daviey | stopped when the load reached 5.00 | 01:00 |
| Daviey | swapped like mad, and load went upto 90.00+ | 01:01 |
| Daviey | suspect we need to limit the amount of apache2 threads | 01:01 |
| imbrandon | probably, i'll also upgrade the box too sometime soonish | 01:02 |
| Daviey | ahh.. okay | 01:02 |
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| imbrandon | :) | 01:03 |
| Daviey | superm1 made an account on drupal | 01:03 |
| Daviey | but i didn't make it admin, as i wanted to make certain it was him | 01:03 |
| Daviey | haven't had a chance to speek to him | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | k | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | i'll be back in a sec | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | foood | 01:04 |
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| superm1 | morning jono | 03:33 |
| Daviey | superm1, moo | 03:34 |
| superm1 | hey Daviey | 03:34 |
| Daviey | hows things? | 03:34 |
| superm1 | very well. | 03:34 |
| superm1 | just finished first final | 03:34 |
| superm1 | 1 down 2 to go | 03:34 |
| gardengnome | great news :) | 03:34 |
| gardengnome | today's final was math here. :) | 03:34 |
| Daviey | how was it? | 03:34 |
| superm1 | actually much better than i though | 03:35 |
| Daviey | good | 03:35 |
| superm1 | (or expected :)) | 03:35 |
| superm1 | i did study for 12 hours though yesterday so ya know | 03:35 |
| Daviey | superm1, did you register on drupal? | 03:35 |
| superm1 | yes | 03:36 |
| Daviey | good.. | 03:36 |
| superm1 | username 'supermario' | 03:36 |
| Daviey | wanted to make sure it was you and not somebody pretending | 03:36 |
| superm1 | could u set me as an admin? | 03:36 |
| superm1 | hehe | 03:36 |
| Daviey | doing it now | 03:36 |
| superm1 | i've got a theme i was gonna install to give a shot | 03:37 |
| superm1 | i'm setting up the weekly builds script behind the scenes too this morning | 03:37 |
| Daviey | done | 03:37 |
| Daviey | I emailed canonical regarding the drupal theme on ubuntu.com | 03:38 |
| Daviey | didn't know what we were using, but suspected it would be based on offical | 03:38 |
| superm1 | i just found one on drupal.org that i thought looked nice | 03:39 |
| superm1 | but we'll see | 03:39 |
| superm1 | i do like the one on ubuntu.com a lot though | 03:39 |
| Daviey | waiting on a response from that | 03:39 |
| superm1 | Daviey, wow there is a lot of configuration stuff here! | 03:41 |
| Daviey | :) | 03:41 |
| Daviey | I had fun yesterday. managed to get the server to show an average load of 90.00+ | 03:42 |
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| superm1 | 90.0+? | 03:44 |
| Daviey | yep! | 03:44 |
| superm1 | remember it is a weak little 400 mhz celeron :) | 03:44 |
| Daviey | hit refresh 100 or so times. Load reached 4.00 or so and i stopped | 03:45 |
| superm1 | i wonder how well it will handle a digg ;) | 03:45 |
| superm1 | i'm sure we will have one at the release of the first ISO. | 03:46 |
| Daviey | but then it started swapping and reached 90.00 | 03:46 |
| Daviey | for sure! | 03:46 |
| Daviey | might need some to mirror off the iso for initial launch | 03:46 |
| superm1 | well the bandwidth won't be the issue - | 03:47 |
| superm1 | okay well that theme i thought would look great wasnt so great | 03:47 |
| Daviey | lemme see | 03:47 |
| superm1 | its more of a blog theme | 03:47 |
| superm1 | fixed widths and such | 03:47 |
| Daviey | bonsai? | 03:48 |
| superm1 | yea | 03:48 |
| superm1 | looked a lot better in the screenshot i thought | 03:48 |
| Daviey | i see what you mean - very wordpressy | 03:49 |
| superm1 | yea | 03:49 |
| superm1 | a lot of themes at drupal.org are that way unfortunately | 03:49 |
| jono | hey superm1 | 03:56 |
| superm1 | Hi jono. Hows it going. any progress on your guide data? | 03:57 |
| jono | got the guide data working now, but for some reason the backend is never started when I boot the system | 03:57 |
| jono | have not checked into it yet | 03:58 |
| jono | at work at the moment | 03:58 |
| superm1 | ah okay | 03:58 |
| Daviey | jono, are you using radio times or dvb? | 03:59 |
| jono | Daviey: radio times, but I do need to set up dvb | 03:59 |
| Daviey | radio times is much better at 14 days ;) | 04:00 |
| jono | :) | 04:00 |
| jono | right back to work, catch you later | 04:01 |
| Daviey | ttfn | 04:01 |
| superm1 | Daviey, you mooing at me on pegasus? | 04:08 |
| superm1 | spitting all over my nano sessoin | 04:08 |
| Daviey | sorry :( | 04:09 |
| superm1 | :) | 04:09 |
| superm1 | i'm trying to get clean URLs set up | 04:09 |
| superm1 | found another theme that i'm trying too | 04:10 |
| Daviey | I've got the official one in my inbox | 04:10 |
| superm1 | oh really? | 04:10 |
| superm1 | that was quick | 04:10 |
| Daviey | i got it from somebody in my loco | 04:10 |
| superm1 | ah | 04:12 |
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| superm1 | be back in a bit. | 04:13 |
| Daviey | okay | 04:13 |
| Daviey | bye | 04:13 |
| bendailey | Are any of the main devs online right now? | 04:17 |
| Daviey | no | 04:18 |
| Daviey | oh ben | 04:18 |
| Daviey | it's dave - i spoke to you on the phone | 04:18 |
| Daviey | bendailey, are you there? | 04:23 |
| bendailey | yeah | 04:25 |
| bendailey | sorry at work | 04:25 |
| Daviey | oh okay.. how's things | 04:25 |
| bendailey | Good how are you dong? | 04:25 |
| Daviey | good.. | 04:25 |
| bendailey | what can I do to help? | 04:26 |
| Daviey | we've managed to get webspace with (almost) unlimited bandwidth | 04:26 |
| bendailey | great | 04:26 |
| bendailey | do you want to have mythbuntu.org pointed at it? | 04:26 |
| bendailey | Do you have a site design done yet? | 04:27 |
| Daviey | not yet | 04:28 |
| Daviey | i need to go for 10 mins | 04:28 |
| Daviey | brb | 04:28 |
| bendailey | not a problem | 04:28 |
| hugolp | hi | 04:34 |
| hugolp | does anybody know the difference between ln and mount? | 04:35 |
| hugolp | I am trying to share the files to mythtv | 04:35 |
| gardengnome | man ln | 04:35 |
| gardengnome | man mount | 04:35 |
| bendailey | that is a great place to start | 04:36 |
| bendailey | real quick ln creates symbolic (soft links) from one filesystem location to another | 04:37 |
| bendailey | mount attaches a physical device or network share to a location on the filesystem | 04:37 |
| bendailey | disclaimer: those are of the top of the head description they may not be technical correct | 04:38 |
| bendailey | Be back in about 20 minutes | 04:39 |
| bendailey | Daviey are you back? | 05:01 |
| Daviey | yes sir | 05:03 |
| Daviey | As i was saying; we have a dedicated server. It's currently residing at pegasus.imbrandon.com | 05:03 |
| Daviey | not much there at the moment... just a blank drupal install | 05:04 |
| Daviey | bendailey, do you know how to use bazar (bzr)? | 05:05 |
| Daviey | were currently tracking mythbuntu through launchpad: | 05:05 |
| Daviey | https://launchpad.net/mythbuntu | 05:05 |
| bendailey | bazar name looks familiar what is it? link? | 05:11 |
| bendailey | nevermind version control system | 05:12 |
| bendailey | haven't used it before.... is it something I could help with? | 05:13 |
| bendailey | wow I am dense I am installing bazaar right now... I plan on pulling a copy of the devel branch in a minute | 05:17 |
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| hugolp | thanks bendailey | 05:21 |
| bendailey | sure did you get sharing working? | 05:21 |
| hugolp | yes, its all going fine now | 05:26 |
| hugolp | I have a problem another problem with mythtv | 05:26 |
| hugolp | In mythvideo I dont see the difference between the atribute listable of a video file. If I make a file listable or not listable it will show anyways no matter what the options I choose in the video general configuration | 05:28 |
| hugolp | Am I doing something wrong or is it just like that? | 05:28 |
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| keescook | superm1: hiya. so any news on the mythtv thing during ubuntu-live? | 06:34 |
| superm1 | hi keescook | 06:35 |
| superm1 | yup | 06:35 |
| superm1 | i'll be coming up that way | 06:35 |
| superm1 | got the +1 from my manager to take off a few days, and Andrew got the +1 from the orielly guys to pay my ticket into ULive | 06:36 |
| keescook | superm1: sweet! | 06:36 |
| keescook | that's totally great! :):) | 06:36 |
| superm1 | just going to have to take care of airfare and hotel out of pocket (which is fine, small vacation for me :)) | 06:36 |
| superm1 | yea i'm really excited! | 06:36 |
| superm1 | andrew is in the process of moving right now, so I haven't ironed out the details with him on everything we will talk about and how its going to be organized as of yet, but i did shoot him some of my ideas and he gave me a few of his | 06:37 |
| superm1 | i think our only possible problem is what hardware we can pull together here for demo purposes (hi def tuners and such) | 06:38 |
| keescook | cool; that'll be a great two weeks | 06:38 |
| keescook | I'll see if a buddy can bring in his myth (hd) system; he just got it up with feisty. | 06:39 |
| superm1 | oh really? | 06:39 |
| keescook | yeah, he really liked all the docs and said getting it set up was _super_ easy. :) | 06:39 |
| superm1 | thats great | 06:39 |
| superm1 | let me know what he would be able to bring, frontend or backend hardware | 06:39 |
| superm1 | the less we have to bring in the plane the better | 06:39 |
| keescook | okay, cool. I'll see if I can con him into it. ;) | 06:39 |
| superm1 | i was going to contact silicon dust after i get added to the page for speaking at this event | 06:40 |
| superm1 | and ask them if they would be willing to sponsor a HDHomeRun tuner for us | 06:40 |
| superm1 | or at least let us borrow one | 06:40 |
| keescook | niiice | 06:40 |
| keescook | back later; I gotta catch up from my mini-vacation. :) | 06:40 |
| superm1 | k. | 06:40 |
| superm1 | well one more quick question if i can | 06:41 |
| superm1 | i should ask you - how is hidef reception in that area, would we expect troubles? | 06:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | if anyone sees majoridiot before I do could they let him know I checked TNTHD, ESPNHD, NBCHD, tvlandp, and G4 (all digital channels except tvlandp) and non have 5c implemented or copy control | 06:47 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i mean none have either | 06:48 |
| hugolp | Whats the atribute "Browsable" of a video file? I change it but it seems to have no effect | 06:48 |
| hugolp | anyone? | 06:49 |
| superm1 | tgm4883_laptop, i'll let him know if i see him | 06:55 |
| superm1 | your lucky :) | 06:55 |
| superm1 | hugolp, browsable attribute? | 06:55 |
| superm1 | are you saying for individual files | 06:55 |
| superm1 | or mythvideo | 06:55 |
| tgm4883_laptop | thanks | 06:57 |
| hugolp | superm1: "include while browsing" maybe? | 06:58 |
| superm1 | i dont have a mythfrontend avail to me right this minute, but the only thing i can remember about "browsable" is that it shows all files, whether they have been scanned for metadata or not | 06:59 |
| superm1 | its a lot quicker if you have a lot of content in the mythvideo directory and dont care for the metadata | 06:59 |
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| Daviey | superm1, ping | 07:00 |
| superm1 | hi Daviey | 07:01 |
| superm1 | take a look now at pegasus | 07:01 |
| superm1 | see what you think :) | 07:01 |
| Daviey | looks good | 07:01 |
| Daviey | did you see ben daily was in here earlier | 07:02 |
| bendailey | Dailey :) | 07:02 |
| superm1 | hi bendailey | 07:02 |
| bendailey | hi superm1 | 07:02 |
| bendailey | the site looks pretty good | 07:03 |
| Daviey | sorry for the miss-pell | 07:03 |
| hugolp | superm1: but I do care about the metadata and I want it to behave the other way round and it just wont | 07:03 |
| superm1 | you were the chap that was going to be starting mythbuntu without us right :) | 07:03 |
| hugolp | anyway thanks | 07:03 |
| bendailey | not a prob lots of people get it wrong | 07:03 |
| bendailey | yeah I had it as a brain storm and never got the project started | 07:04 |
| superm1 | ah. well its been a long work in progress here, lots of behind the scenes things had to happen if we were going to maintain a close relationship with ubuntu | 07:04 |
| superm1 | so thats why there has been no public announcements from us on it | 07:04 |
| bendailey | OK how has the canonical stuff gone? | 07:05 |
| superm1 | for the moment, it cant be an officially supported derivative in canonical's eyes | 07:06 |
| superm1 | since mythtv is multiverse | 07:06 |
| superm1 | and mythtv is multiverse because it has a build-dep and dep on lame | 07:06 |
| gardengnome | you could patch out liblame support. isaac richards is going to love you for that... :> | 07:06 |
| superm1 | hehe | 07:07 |
| bendailey | sounds like fun ...... have to love politics | 07:07 |
| bendailey | Sorry I am new to IRC is there a way to send private messages? | 07:07 |
| superm1 | bendailey, you missed out on all the fun legal mess with ivtv last fall :) | 07:07 |
| superm1 | you need to register with freenode.net | 07:08 |
| superm1 | and then you can | 07:08 |
| bendailey | I have | 07:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what program you use? | 07:08 |
| bendailey | registered that is .... | 07:08 |
| bendailey | gaim | 07:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 07:08 |
| superm1 | then you should be able to. /msg USER | 07:08 |
| bendailey | thanks | 07:08 |
| superm1 | i think gaim recognizes /msg (xchat and every other irc app i have used does) | 07:08 |
| bendailey | what do others use for IRC? | 07:09 |
| Daviey | xchat | 07:10 |
| superm1 | xchat and irssi are two popular ones | 07:10 |
| bendailey | thanks I may try them sometime always trying to learn | 07:10 |
| bendailey | So how can I be of the most help to mythbuntu? | 07:10 |
| superm1 | xchat is pretty user friendly | 07:10 |
| superm1 | well where you say your specialty/strengths lie? | 07:11 |
| superm1 | packaging, python, site management, documentation, artwork | 07:11 |
| superm1 | bug fixing/triaging | 07:11 |
| Daviey | user support | 07:11 |
| bendailey | not artwork | 07:12 |
| bendailey | I can help with site management, and user support | 07:12 |
| Daviey | great! | 07:12 |
| bendailey | I can help with bug fixing and I have been lurking on the mythtv mail listing for the last month or so | 07:13 |
| bendailey | I am working on learning C | 07:13 |
| Daviey | your brave! | 07:13 |
| superm1 | bendailey, wonderful | 07:14 |
| bendailey | I can currently can write software patches and follow most code in php, python, perl, javascript, ruby, bash, and ..... | 07:14 |
| bendailey | I can write full apps from scratch in php right now | 07:14 |
| bendailey | How does the hosting situation look for mythbuntu? | 07:15 |
| superm1 | well hopefully most of the site can be self sustained by drupal | 07:15 |
| superm1 | imbrandon has it under control | 07:15 |
| superm1 | http://pegasus.imbrandon.com is the temporary domain | 07:15 |
| superm1 | we just got that up and running a few days ago | 07:15 |
| Daviey | Server has only been up 3 days! | 07:16 |
| bendailey | ok do you want mythbuntu.org pointed at that site? now or in the future? | 07:16 |
| superm1 | well now would be great | 07:16 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, ping? | 07:16 |
| Daviey | superm1, just for your info - the offical ubuntu theme is installed | 07:18 |
| superm1 | Daviey, very good. | 07:18 |
| superm1 | how configurable is it? | 07:18 |
| Daviey | seems very | 07:18 |
| superm1 | great | 07:18 |
| bendailey | does canonical run there other sites on drupal? | 07:18 |
| Daviey | yes | 07:18 |
| superm1 | yup | 07:18 |
| bendailey | great | 07:18 |
| superm1 | they recently switched to it (2 months ago i think) | 07:19 |
| bendailey | ok I assumed the used some CMS I just never dug to see which one | 07:19 |
| superm1 | bendailey, as for the software situation, the big thing right now for several of us is going to be deciphering and adding to ubiquity which is a big python mess | 07:19 |
| Daviey | Big MESS | 07:19 |
| superm1 | so at this point you can join in that mess, or bug fixing :) | 07:20 |
| superm1 | most of the rest of the ISO generation script is done though | 07:20 |
| superm1 | it builds from a few megs of binary files for isolinux and a short script that debootstraps into an ISO image | 07:20 |
| bendailey | great | 07:21 |
| superm1 | so in the near future i'm going to get that script and our weekly builds sorted out, and then join these other guys in the ubiquity mess | 07:21 |
| bendailey | I am getting 503 errors from launchpad when doing a bzr branch | 07:21 |
| Daviey | so myth-frontend can run from a live cd :) | 07:21 |
| superm1 | when doing what with a bzr branch? | 07:22 |
| superm1 | a push or checkout? | 07:22 |
| bendailey | $ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel mythbuntu | 07:22 |
| superm1 | i've always done bzr checkout URL location | 07:23 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure if branch is the right verb to use though | 07:23 |
| bendailey | ok I believe I miss read man page I just read it again sorry | 07:23 |
| superm1 | i've been using bzr for the last 8 months or so, and i'm still a bit confused with it, so dont fret :) | 07:24 |
| Daviey | heck, we had enough problems setting the branch up! | 07:24 |
| bendailey | ok nice to know I am not alone | 07:25 |
| superm1 | i think that once we have our first release we should refresh that branch | 07:25 |
| superm1 | its 130 megs or so right now | 07:25 |
| superm1 | because of all the binary files that have been in it at some point | 07:25 |
| bendailey | I see | 07:26 |
| bendailey | well should I get in touch with imbrandon about mythbuntu.org? | 07:26 |
| superm1 | yes. | 07:26 |
| superm1 | if he doesnt come back here in the near future, then shoot him an email | 07:26 |
| superm1 | bendailey, do you have his email | 07:28 |
| Daviey | i gtg | 07:30 |
| Daviey | speak later | 07:30 |
| bendailey | thanks Daviey | 07:30 |
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| Daviey | bendailey, before i go - that branch worked fine here | 07:31 |
| Daviey | $bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel mythbuntu | 07:32 |
| Daviey | bye | 07:32 |
| bendailey | I gtg real job calls | 07:32 |
| superm1 | bendailey, i've unfortunately got to run too. :) | 07:32 |
| superm1 | glad to have touched bases with you | 07:33 |
| superm1 | and that we'll be making mythbuntu rock! | 07:33 |
| bendailey | nice to have met everyone and I hope I can be of help | 07:33 |
| superm1 | from that stuff you mentioned above with exprience in, i'm sure you will be a great help to us | 07:33 |
| superm1 | have a good afternoon | 07:34 |
| bendailey | u 2 | 07:34 |
| bendailey | bye | 07:34 |
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| bendailey | imbrandon, ping | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | pong | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | bendailey, pong | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | i'll be in and out the next few minutes, getting ready to do a radio interview ( woot ) | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | just ping me when your back arround | 09:16 |
| bendailey | imbrandon, ping | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | pong | 09:30 |
| bendailey | hey | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | hello | 09:30 |
| bendailey | I was told I needed to contact you about mythbuntu.org | 09:30 |
| bendailey | hello | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | ahh are you the gent that owns it ? | 09:30 |
| bendailey | yep | 09:30 |
| imbrandon | sweet, yea , i be the one to contact | 09:31 |
| imbrandon | umm are you willing to point the dns to our server or how would you like to do this | 09:31 |
| imbrandon | has superm1 talked to you about all of us using it ? | 09:32 |
| bendailey | do you want me to handle DNS? and just point some a records your way or I can point the nameservers on the whois record at a dns server of your choice | 09:32 |
| bendailey | Daviey gave me a ring on the phone | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | either way is fine by me, the former is probably the easiest | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | but toaly upto you | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | totaly* | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm about to do a phone interview soon so i might have to go afk in a few for moments | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | not long | 09:33 |
| bendailey | I have no problem pointing nameservers toward you | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | but if you want to point a A record to the same ip as pegasus.imbrandon.com for both mythbuntu.org and www.mythbuntu.org and also a MX record | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | that should be all we need | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | ok that works too | 09:33 |
| imbrandon | mind if i call you here in a few moments | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | after i get off the interview | 09:34 |
| bendailey | not a problem | 09:34 |
| bendailey | hit me on IRC after you get done with the interview | 09:34 |
| bendailey | thanks | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | kk | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | / | 09:35 |
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| bendailey | imbrandon, gtg maybe on later or shoot me an email | 09:59 |
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| Markieman234 | Hey guys,I've run into a bit of a roadblock with tuning my Hauppauge WinTV Nova T USB2 external card with kubuntu Feisty 7.04. | 10:33 |
| Markieman234 | Can anyone help? | 10:33 |
| Markieman234 | anyone? | 10:34 |
| Daviey | whats the problem exactly? | 10:35 |
| Markieman234 | The card is installed okay with the proper firmware and mapped to the relevant device location, however when attempting a "scan" command I get the following messages: | 10:35 |
| Markieman234 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18465/ | 10:35 |
| Markieman234 | timeout errors | 10:35 |
| Markieman234 | I get the same in MythTV when doing a channel scan | 10:35 |
| Daviey | whats the '5' for? | 10:38 |
| Daviey | i see | 10:38 |
| Daviey | "multiply all filter timeouts by factor 5" | 10:38 |
| Markieman234 | yep, thats it | 10:39 |
| Daviey | It's definitely /dev/dvb/adapter0? | 10:39 |
| Markieman234 | thats the one | 10:39 |
| Daviey | normally you > it into the channels.conf | 10:40 |
| Daviey | but that shouldn't affect the timeout | 10:40 |
| Markieman234 | I was following this guide | 10:40 |
| Markieman234 | ive checked by disconnecting it and then reconnecting it and | 10:40 |
| Markieman234 | ^^ sorry plz ignore | 10:41 |
| Markieman234 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NovaTHowTo | 10:41 |
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| rogue780|laptop | howdy howdy howdy | 10:41 |
| Markieman234 | I used that for the dvb-utils info | 10:41 |
| rogue780|laptop | how do I edit the wiki for mythtv/feisty? | 10:42 |
| Markieman234 | the fact it's a filter timeout leads me to think it's filter related, however xine-ffmpeg is installed as stated in the howto | 10:43 |
| Daviey | Markieman234, silly question - but have you made it work at all? Ie card is working and aerial okay? | 10:43 |
| Markieman234 | aerial is perfect, its a roof aerial | 10:44 |
| Markieman234 | the card itself is fine, it works ok under windows | 10:44 |
| Daviey | hmm | 10:45 |
| Markieman234 | also I did the usb device history command after disconnecting it and reconnecting it again and it picks it up fine and puts it into a warm state, mounting it to /dev/dvb/adapter0 | 10:45 |
| Daviey | Not sure why the kernel needed patching though | 10:45 |
| Daviey | support for my pci nova's worked out of the box | 10:46 |
| Markieman234 | no it didn't, I ignored the kernel patching bit, I just used it to get the proper "scan" command | 10:47 |
| Markieman234 | FMI | 10:47 |
| Daviey | Might be worth trying in #mythtv-users - i can't help i'm afraid | 10:47 |
| Markieman234 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2567333#post2567333 | 10:47 |
| Markieman234 | ok, no worries, thanks for your time :) | 10:47 |
| Daviey | np | 10:47 |
| tgm4883 | rogue780|laptop, what are you trying to edit? | 10:54 |
| rogue780|laptop | I want to add a section on unichrome drivers | 11:01 |
| rogue780|laptop | for those of us who've decided to make a frontend with a via epia board | 11:01 |
| tgm4883 | i think you have to be a registered user on launchpad | 11:02 |
| williammanda | anyone setup a nvidia card for svideo? | 11:32 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, grabbed a few more modules for drupal today | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | superm1, heya | 11:37 |
| superm1 | hey imbrandon | 11:37 |
| superm1 | did ben dailey mail you? | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | superm1, talked to the mythbuntu.org guy today | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | yup | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | seems we'll have everything worked out very shortly | 11:37 |
| imbrandon | seems like a nice gent | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | superm1, did Daviey get you drupal access etc | 11:38 |
| superm1 | yup | 11:38 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, did you see the changes around the site yet :) | 11:38 |
| rogue780|laptop | argh! does anyone know about openchrome? the picture is all distorted on the tv. just black and white, and garbled like HBO | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | rockin, i'm working on the mail server now | 11:38 |
| superm1 | we got a logo, and i've got a few modules up on there and a few things organized | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | cool | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | no i havent looked today yet | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | been working on some backend stuff | 11:39 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, are you going to do somethign similar to ubuntuwire where you just push the mail to another account? | 11:39 |
| rogue780|laptop | I'm going though a yellow video cable, i i guess it's called composite, any ideas? | 11:39 |
| superm1 | or actually going to hold a server there | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | superm1, i was planning on makin full blown mail accounts pop/imap support etc | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | sicne there will opnly be a few mail accounts on there | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | only* | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | ( with forwarding if you wish also ) | 11:40 |
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| superm1 | ah okay | 11:40 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, i'm still a bit wary that this server can handle all this load? | 11:40 |
| superm1 | doing all this hosting, and mail and all? | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | its actualy mostly setup now, but i cant do some of the things untill the domain points to the right NS | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | superm1, we can always upgrade the processor / memory etc | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | but i have a seperate mail server, you'll notice if you look at the MX records on ubuntuwire its on another box :) | 11:41 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, k. Daviey just got me a bit worried when told me it was sitting at 90 percent cpu when he hit refresh a bunch | 11:41 |
| superm1 | so i was thinking to myself, god this thing will die from a digg | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | :) | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | no worries, also i need to do some optimazations too | 11:42 |
| superm1 | i saw a throttling module that can kick in after so many connections for drupal that i put on there | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | but i run a popular site ( 3000 hits an hours ) on a 800mhz | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | an hour* | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | plus i'm the main mirror for seveas's repos and its on a 600mhz ;) | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | anyhow yes, we will need to beef up the box, but i can do all that in place with no downtime | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | as needed | 11:44 |
| superm1 | wow | 11:44 |
| imbrandon | eventualy i have a 3ghz dual core with 4 gigs of ram i'm gonna migrate it to, but i need to get some things off the box first | 11:45 |
| superm1 | i guess i've underestimated how much is really needed for hosting a site | 11:45 |
| superm1 | how can you do such things in place without downtime? | 11:45 |
| majoridiot | fast hands? | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | i do this for a living :) , but DNS tricks | 11:46 |
| superm1 | i mean i can see rsync the filesystem and such | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | basicly put a new box in place , have it sync, then take the ip and then sway hardware etc | 11:46 |
| superm1 | hehe ah i see | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | each box i have up there has a dupe | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | with eactly the same hardware | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | :) | 11:47 |
| superm1 | for your other boxes do you have some sort of redundancy system ready to go at the "flip of a switch" per say then? | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | yup | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | thats why i work on the backend more than the front, i make sure the shit stays stable :) | 11:48 |
| imbrandon | or try to | 11:48 |
| superm1 | ah i see. cool cool | 11:48 |
| superm1 | as for building off those other buildd's you have - do i need to get a login for scping stuff over? | 11:49 |
| superm1 | or how does that work | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | i'll make a generic account for the mythbuntu box to grab the build queue, access is limited to only MOTU and core-dev for now | 11:49 |
| imbrandon | but i can make machine accounts | 11:49 |
| superm1 | oh i see | 11:49 |
| superm1 | i'm finishing off a script that will run weekly and grab a new svn co of 0.20-fixes | 11:50 |
| superm1 | and put together a debian source package | 11:50 |
| superm1 | to queue up | 11:50 |
| superm1 | and just add to a cron job on Sundays or so | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | gah one sec brb | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | cool | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | yea make the scripts to run localy and i'll adapt the first one or two to show you | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | then from there you can make them all work with the buildd's | 11:57 |
| superm1 | i had them working locally at home, but on pegasus i made a user that would run the scripts and they are not working perfectly yet, so i've still got to hack at them a bit | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | ( even if its localy on your machine not the server, either way will work ) | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | ok | 11:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | majoridiot, I checked TNTHD, ESPNHD, NBCHD, tvlandp, and G4 (all digital channels except tvlandp) and non have 5c implemented or copy control | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | superm1 passed along the message via email... tyvm | 11:59 |
| majoridiot | still waiting for the return call. good info to have. | 11:59 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, what will be a feasible email address to give the automated package builder to sign the packages with | 12:10 |
| superm1 | packages@mythbuntu.org ? | 12:10 |
| imbrandon | sure | 12:12 |
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