[12:41] <superm1> yes
[12:41] <superm1> gnome has a process manager
[12:41] <superm1> System->Administration->System Monitor
[12:44] <williammanda> ty
[12:45] <williammanda> trying to setup wireless unit
[12:45] <williammanda> a low end unit
[12:46] <williammanda> sdtv only
[12:46] <superm1> ah
[01:42] <williammanda> does video automatically come out of the super video port on the video card or do I need to setup the xorg.conf file?
[01:43] <williammanda> this would be foe 7.04...xorg 7.2
[01:47] <superm1> super video port?
[01:48] <williammanda> ya...the little round connector
[01:48] <williammanda> usually a black cable
[01:48] <superm1> oh svideo - does that really mean super video?
[01:48] <superm1> never knew
[01:48] <williammanda> yes it does
[01:49] <williammanda> it was the big thing in it's day
[01:49] <superm1> i must be young :)
[01:49] <williammanda> yes i think so :)
[01:49] <superm1> it won't come out automatically
[01:49] <superm1> you'll need to configure tv-out
[01:49] <superm1> easiest way to do it is with nvidia-settings
[01:49] <superm1> its installed with the nvidia proprietary driver
[01:50] <williammanda> i have a ati x1650 card
[01:50] <superm1> then aticonfig is your way to go
[01:50] <williammanda> i'm using the vesa driver
[01:50] <superm1> tv out won't be supported unless you use the fglrx driver
[01:50] <superm1> afaik
[01:51] <williammanda> hummm
[01:51] <williammanda> i get wierd things when using the restricted driver
[01:52] <superm1> like weird colors and such?
[01:52] <williammanda> transparent windows that don't over write
[01:52] <williammanda> the previous text...
[01:52] <superm1> yup good ol' buggy ATI
[01:52] <williammanda> so I have text piled upon text
[01:53] <superm1> could you pop in an nvidia card?
[01:53] <superm1> even a so so one
[01:53] <williammanda> maybe...i was wanted to use the ati card here...it has been collecting dust
[01:55] <superm1> there was a reason majoridiot was willing to give away his ati x*** series card a few weeks ago :)
[01:55] <williammanda> when using the svideo can I use the other digital video port for the computer?
[01:55] <superm1> yes
[01:55] <williammanda> so I won't need to modofy the xorg file at all?
[01:56] <superm1> aticonfig will do it all for you
[01:56] <superm1> you just need to look for the correct options that you are wanting
[01:56] <williammanda> k
[01:56] <superm1> but if you use nvidia, then its all thru a really sweet gui app
[01:56] <rogue780|laptop> hi everybody!
[01:57] <superm1> hi rogue780|laptop
[01:57] <rogue780|laptop> que paso?!
[01:57] <rogue780|laptop> I'm happy I got my laptop running again :O)
[01:57] <superm1> its just that crunch time for me... .finals this week and then freedom (and more mythtv time )
[01:57] <superm1> :)
[01:57] <rogue780|laptop> what courses are you taking?
[01:58] <rogue780|laptop> I'm about to reload my mythtv frontend with feisty
[01:58] <rogue780|laptop> I heard there's a website for mythbuntu now? is that true?
[01:58] <superm1> a comp architectures course discussing mips, a EM course, technical writing, senior design, senior portfolio, non discrete math / algorithms
[01:59] <superm1> its on its way up
[01:59] <superm1> as soon as my finals are done, i've got a whole week to put towards it
[01:59] <rogue780|laptop> nice. I'm starting my BS in CS...have about 20 credits towards it
[02:00] <rogue780|laptop> hoping to get it half done before I get out of the air force in 3 years
[02:00] <superm1> ah one of those folks ;0
[02:01] <williammanda> ty for the help!
[02:01] <rogue780|laptop> what I really want is software engineering, but there aren't any universities that offer that around here for the price the airforce will pay (I get 100% tuition paid by the air force up to $250/credit hour and $4,500 a year)
[02:02] <superm1> oh wow
[02:02] <superm1> very nice
[02:02] <rogue780|laptop> then when I get out have have $40,000+ for college from my G.I bill
[02:02] <rogue780|laptop> I've already got two AA degrees
[02:03] <superm1> your set here then dude
[02:03] <rogue780|laptop> anyway, I gotta do some work around the house...be back a little later
[02:05] <superm1> k
[02:13] <williammanda> how can i get back to the vesa driver?  The restricted didn't work...stuck at the console
[02:14] <rogue780|laptop> williammanda, in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  under device section change driver from nvidia, or fglx or whatever to vesa
[02:14] <williammanda> k ty
[02:15] <rogue780|laptop> or see if there is an xorg.conf.bak or .0 or .old or something....that might be your old working xorg.conf file
[02:15] <rogue780|laptop> anyone know where I can get libdvdcss2?
[02:16] <williammanda> from the medubuntu...if i spelled it right
[02:17] <williammanda> set it up in sources
[02:18] <superm1> medibuntu has it yet
[02:18] <superm1> i beleive
[02:18] <williammanda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_media_Feisty
[02:18] <superm1> yup
[02:24] <rogue780|laptop> awesome
[02:25] <rogue780|laptop> anyone know why they were ripped fro the standard sources and torn asunder?
[02:26] <superm1> libdvdcss2?
[02:37] <rogue780|laptop> it's the codec required to play encrypted (every) dvd
[02:38] <rogue780|laptop> wtf?! I'm installing a commandline system on my myth frontend. it has no monitor, just the tv. everything looks good until I get into the actual setup--I think I see it mention something about a framebuffer...not sure because the screen starts  scrolling vertically at an unreadable rate
[02:39] <rogue780|laptop> not sure what keyboard scheme I chose...I hope it wasn't dvorak
[02:47] <superm1> rogue780|laptop, i wasnt sure if you were asking why libdvdcss2 wasnt in the repositories
[02:48] <superm1> sounds like that framebuffer issue is trouble though -
[02:48] <rogue780|laptop> yeah, that's what I'm asking
[02:48] <rogue780|laptop> stupid unichrome
[02:48] <superm1> its not in the repos because its questionable legality
[02:54] <rogue780|laptop> superm1, what would you think of a website that offered cash prizes to people/groups who accomplish specific software design projects... say $90,000 to create a graphics library that is comparable to dirextx9 and offers easy portability between windows and linux, or $500 to someone who creates a centralized LAMP server administration program
[02:55] <rogue780|laptop> do you think such an endeavor would go over well in the open source community?
[02:55] <superm1> No i dont.
[02:55] <superm1> bounties work much better with individual projects
[02:55] <superm1> rather than a centralized server from what i have seen
[02:56] <rogue780|laptop> just a server administration program. it wouldn't change the server itself
[02:56] <superm1> because then you have the direct approval of thepeople that regularly work with the project for the bounty to even go out
[02:57] <rogue780|laptop> and why would that be a problem? I mean, isn't the point of the opensource community to be able to build on each other's accomplishments?
[02:57] <superm1> yes, but when you involve money things change
[02:59] <rogue780|laptop> all the code and projects would have to be under a certain license which gives people the ability to update, critique, and build off of the code...the money is just to provide incentive to push forward otherwise stagnant development in a positive direction
[03:00] <rogue780|laptop> I think that when you involve money and a reward system you would get a more standardized product.
[03:01] <williammanda> where is nvidia config located?
[03:01] <williammanda> for the restricted driver
[03:01] <superm1> I see where you are coming from on this, but I can just see a lot of hostility forming among projects by doing this too
[03:01] <superm1> i think the basic concept is there and can be experimented with a few smaller projects
[03:02] <superm1> given that there is money there
[03:02] <superm1> nvidia config?
[03:02] <superm1> as in for nvidia-settings
[03:02] <williammanda> ok...what we were talking about earlier
[03:02] <superm1> oh
[03:02] <williammanda> so I can setup the svideo
[03:02] <superm1> run nvidia-settings
[03:02] <williammanda> console?
[03:02] <superm1> it is also in the menus i think, but the command line to run it is nvidia-settings
[03:02] <superm1> you have to be in a gui to do it
[03:03] <superm1> or have the DISPLAY variable exported correctly
[03:03] <superm1> over ssh to do it
[03:05] <williammanda> a tv resolution is 720*480 right?
[03:06] <rogue780|laptop> man that's weird...the setup had framebuffer issues, but so far the actual system doesn't
[03:06] <rogue780|laptop> weird
[03:16] <superm1> yes it should
[03:19] <majoridiot> tgm4883_laptop: hey- guess what?
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> what?
[03:21] <majoridiot> my $@&%#@(%#@& cable co locked down ALL non-analog channels with CCI 0x02 friday morning
[03:22] <majoridiot> in markets in at least 3 states
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> bastards
[03:22] <majoridiot> yeah
[03:22] <majoridiot> fighting like hell, tho... supposed to speak with a tech vp tomorrow.
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> but it is the cable company and not the channel?
[03:23] <majoridiot> yup.  the company.
[03:23] <majoridiot> all of your channels are still clear, right?
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> ill need to check when i get home
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> i was out of town this weekend
[03:24] <majoridiot> ah
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> thats gonna tick me off if im locked down too
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> ill be downgrading my service
[03:28] <majoridiot> lemme know as soon as you find out, ok?  it would be good info for the call.
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[03:30] <majoridiot> especially since you are comcast and my mso just got bought out by them
[03:30] <majoridiot> but they shut of at least my market and ones in indiana and kentucky
[03:32] <majoridiot> (the same day)
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> any specific channels I should check, or just random?
[03:36] <majoridiot> TVLand
[03:36] <majoridiot> :)
[03:37] <majoridiot> or any generic, non-premium (digital) channel
[03:37] <majoridiot> TNTHD would be nice to know, too
[03:37] <majoridiot> since that seems to be the ubiquitous clear HD channel
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> majoridiot, is the dallas game on tnthd right now?
[04:24] <majoridiot> guide says basketball
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what my guide says too
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> and the game is on
[04:24] <majoridiot> yeah... mavericks and golden state
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> im going to go into the diag menu to check for you
[04:25] <majoridiot> ty
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> what channels was i supposed to check again?
[04:25] <majoridiot> that one and tvland would be suficient
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:25] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the keyboard key for the guide?
[04:26] <majoridiot> in myth?
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[04:26] <majoridiot> S
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, now i just need to find tv land
[04:26] <majoridiot> it's 256 on mine
[04:27] <majoridiot> LOL
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> im trying to search zap2it, is there a show on there i could search for?
[04:28] <majoridiot> mash in on atm
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> not found
[04:29] <tgm4883_laptop> searched both mash and m.a.s.h.
[04:30] <majoridiot> m*a*s*h*
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> just found it, although it is down in the analog channels (64) and no other channels
[04:31] <majoridiot> analog?
[04:31] <majoridiot> hm....
[04:31] <majoridiot> now isn't THAT interesting.
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[04:31] <majoridiot> it's a digital-only package here.
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> tvlandp
[04:32] <majoridiot> hmmmm...
[04:32] <majoridiot> i've got a lot of questions for this guy now.
[04:33] <majoridiot> tyvm :)
[04:33] <tgm4883_laptop> http://www.comcast.com/customers/clu/channelLineup.ashx
[04:33] <tgm4883_laptop> here is the channel lineup page
[04:33] <tgm4883_laptop> my zip is 97304
[04:34] <tgm4883_laptop> and everything up to 72 + 98 is analog
[04:34] <majoridiot> ty
[04:34] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[04:36] <majoridiot> hehe... hadda give a street address to access that.
[04:36] <majoridiot> it accepted 123 sesame street in salem
[04:37] <majoridiot> pretty similar except for tvland
[04:37] <majoridiot> interesting that it is a "premium" channel here, tho.
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> very interesting
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> im gonna go grab dinner, if you need me to do anything else, let me know
[04:39] <majoridiot> enjoy!
[05:30] <williammanda> anyone awake?
[05:34] <williammanda> i can't get the nvidia-settings to save the tv setup
[05:48] <superm1> run it as sudo
[05:48] <superm1> sudo nvidia-settings
[05:48] <superm1> and it will be able to
[05:49] <williammanda> i just got through doing that
[05:49] <williammanda> and the xorg file was good
[05:49] <williammanda> wasn't
[05:50] <williammanda> wonder if anyone has an example
[05:50] <superm1> not on me.  i'm on campus still.
[05:51] <williammanda> i remember those days
[05:51] <superm1> and puter at home is suspended
[05:51] <williammanda> i'm too fat and old now to do that anymore
[05:51] <williammanda> :)
[05:51] <williammanda> can you send me an example by emaIL?
[05:53] <superm1> i'm not going home tonite :)
[05:53] <superm1> final tomorrow, and i'm gonna be up all night
[05:53] <williammanda> when you can ...thanks
[05:53] <superm1> k
[07:29] <superm1> Daviey, there?
[12:03] <Daviey> imbrandon, poke
[12:59] <imbrandon> Daviey, wasup ?
[12:59] <Daviey> hmm...
[01:00] <Daviey> did a 'test' yesterday
[01:00] <Daviey> hammed the server with about 100 refreshes.
[01:00] <Daviey> s/hammered
[01:00] <Daviey> stopped when the load reached 5.00
[01:01] <Daviey> swapped like mad, and load went upto 90.00+
[01:01] <Daviey> suspect we need to limit the amount of apache2 threads
[01:02] <imbrandon> probably, i'll also upgrade the box too sometime soonish
[01:02] <Daviey> ahh.. okay
[01:03] <imbrandon> :)
[01:03] <Daviey> superm1 made an account on drupal
[01:03] <Daviey> but i didn't make it admin, as i wanted to make certain it was him
[01:03] <Daviey> haven't had a chance to speek to him
[01:04] <imbrandon> k
[01:04] <imbrandon> i'll be back in a sec
[01:04] <imbrandon> foood
[03:33] <superm1> morning jono
[03:34] <Daviey> superm1, moo
[03:34] <superm1> hey Daviey
[03:34] <Daviey> hows things?
[03:34] <superm1> very well.
[03:34] <superm1> just finished first final
[03:34] <superm1> 1 down 2 to go
[03:34] <gardengnome> great news :)
[03:34] <gardengnome> today's final was math here. :)
[03:34] <Daviey> how was it?
[03:35] <superm1> actually much better than i though
[03:35] <Daviey> good
[03:35] <superm1> (or expected :))
[03:35] <superm1> i did study for 12 hours though yesterday so ya know
[03:35] <Daviey> superm1, did you register on drupal?
[03:36] <superm1> yes
[03:36] <Daviey> good..
[03:36] <superm1> username 'supermario'
[03:36] <Daviey> wanted to make sure it was you and not somebody pretending
[03:36] <superm1> could u set me as an admin?
[03:36] <superm1> hehe
[03:36] <Daviey> doing it now
[03:37] <superm1> i've got a theme i was gonna install to give a shot
[03:37] <superm1> i'm setting up the weekly builds script behind the scenes too this morning
[03:37] <Daviey> done
[03:38] <Daviey> I emailed canonical regarding the drupal theme on ubuntu.com
[03:38] <Daviey> didn't know what we were using, but suspected it would be based on offical
[03:39] <superm1> i just found one on drupal.org that i thought looked nice
[03:39] <superm1> but we'll see
[03:39] <superm1> i do like the one on ubuntu.com a lot though
[03:39] <Daviey> waiting on a response from that
[03:41] <superm1> Daviey, wow there is a lot of configuration stuff here!
[03:41] <Daviey> :)
[03:42] <Daviey> I had fun yesterday.  managed to get the server to show an average load of 90.00+
[03:44] <superm1> 90.0+?
[03:44] <Daviey> yep!
[03:44] <superm1> remember it is a weak little 400 mhz celeron :)
[03:45] <Daviey> hit refresh 100 or so times.  Load reached 4.00 or so and i stopped
[03:45] <superm1> i wonder how well it will handle a digg ;)
[03:46] <superm1> i'm sure we will have one at the release of the first ISO.
[03:46] <Daviey> but then it started swapping and reached 90.00
[03:46] <Daviey> for sure!
[03:46] <Daviey> might need some to mirror off the iso for initial launch
[03:47] <superm1> well the bandwidth won't be the issue -
[03:47] <superm1> okay well that theme i thought would look great wasnt so great
[03:47] <Daviey> lemme see
[03:47] <superm1> its more of a blog theme
[03:47] <superm1> fixed widths and such
[03:48] <Daviey> bonsai?
[03:48] <superm1> yea
[03:48] <superm1> looked a lot better in the screenshot i thought
[03:49] <Daviey> i see what you mean - very wordpressy
[03:49] <superm1> yea
[03:49] <superm1> a lot of themes at drupal.org are that way unfortunately
[03:56] <jono> hey superm1
[03:57] <superm1> Hi jono.  Hows it going.  any progress on your guide data?
[03:57] <jono> got the guide data working now, but for some reason the backend is never started when I boot the system
[03:58] <jono> have not checked into it yet
[03:58] <jono> at work at the moment
[03:58] <superm1> ah okay
[03:59] <Daviey> jono, are you using radio times or dvb?
[03:59] <jono> Daviey: radio times, but I do need to set up dvb
[04:00] <Daviey> radio times is much better at 14 days ;)
[04:00] <jono> :)
[04:01] <jono> right back to work, catch you later
[04:01] <Daviey> ttfn
[04:08] <superm1> Daviey, you mooing at me on pegasus?
[04:08] <superm1> spitting all over my nano sessoin
[04:09] <Daviey> sorry :(
[04:09] <superm1> :)
[04:09] <superm1> i'm trying to get clean URLs set up
[04:10] <superm1> found another theme that i'm trying too
[04:10] <Daviey> I've got the official one in my inbox
[04:10] <superm1> oh really?
[04:10] <superm1> that was quick
[04:10] <Daviey> i got it from somebody in my loco
[04:12] <superm1> ah
[04:13] <superm1> be back in a bit.
[04:13] <Daviey> okay
[04:13] <Daviey> bye
[04:17] <bendailey> Are any of the main devs online right now?
[04:18] <Daviey> no
[04:18] <Daviey> oh ben
[04:18] <Daviey> it's dave - i spoke to you on the phone
[04:23] <Daviey> bendailey, are you there?
[04:25] <bendailey> yeah
[04:25] <bendailey> sorry at work
[04:25] <Daviey> oh okay.. how's things
[04:25] <bendailey> Good how are you dong?
[04:25] <Daviey> good..
[04:26] <bendailey> what can I do to help?
[04:26] <Daviey> we've managed to get webspace with (almost) unlimited bandwidth
[04:26] <bendailey> great
[04:26] <bendailey> do you want to have mythbuntu.org pointed at it?
[04:27] <bendailey> Do you have a site design done yet?
[04:28] <Daviey> not yet
[04:28] <Daviey> i need to go for 10 mins
[04:28] <Daviey> brb
[04:28] <bendailey> not a problem
[04:34] <hugolp> hi
[04:35] <hugolp> does anybody know the difference between ln and mount?
[04:35] <hugolp> I am trying to share the files to mythtv
[04:35] <gardengnome> man ln
[04:35] <gardengnome> man mount
[04:36] <bendailey> that is a great place to start
[04:37] <bendailey> real quick ln creates symbolic (soft links) from one filesystem location to another
[04:37] <bendailey> mount attaches a physical device or network share to a location on the filesystem
[04:38] <bendailey> disclaimer: those are of the top of the head description they may not be technical correct
[04:39] <bendailey> Be back in about 20 minutes
[05:01] <bendailey> Daviey are you back?
[05:03] <Daviey> yes sir
[05:03] <Daviey> As i was saying; we have a dedicated server.  It's currently residing at pegasus.imbrandon.com
[05:04] <Daviey> not much there at the moment... just a blank drupal install
[05:05] <Daviey> bendailey, do you know how to use bazar (bzr)?
[05:05] <Daviey> were currently tracking mythbuntu through launchpad:
[05:05] <Daviey> https://launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[05:11] <bendailey> bazar name looks familiar what is it? link?
[05:12] <bendailey> nevermind version control system
[05:13] <bendailey> haven't used it before.... is it something I could help with?
[05:17] <bendailey> wow I am dense I am installing bazaar right now... I plan on pulling a copy of the devel branch in a minute
[05:21] <hugolp> thanks bendailey
[05:21] <bendailey> sure did you get sharing working?
[05:26] <hugolp> yes, its all going fine now
[05:26] <hugolp> I have a problem another problem with mythtv
[05:28] <hugolp> In mythvideo I dont see the difference between the atribute listable of a video file. If I make a file listable or not listable it will show anyways no matter what the options I choose in the video general configuration
[05:28] <hugolp> Am I doing something wrong or is it just like that?
[06:34] <keescook> superm1: hiya.  so any news on the mythtv thing during ubuntu-live?
[06:35] <superm1> hi keescook
[06:35] <superm1> yup
[06:35] <superm1> i'll be coming up that way
[06:36] <superm1> got the +1 from my manager to take off a few days, and Andrew got the +1 from the orielly guys to pay my ticket into ULive
[06:36] <keescook> superm1: sweet!
[06:36] <keescook> that's totally great!  :):)
[06:36] <superm1> just going to have to take care of airfare and hotel out of pocket (which is fine, small vacation for me :))
[06:36] <superm1> yea i'm  really excited!
[06:37] <superm1> andrew is in the process of moving right now, so I haven't ironed out the details with him on everything we will talk about and how its going to be organized as of yet, but i did shoot him some of my ideas and he gave me a few of his
[06:38] <superm1> i think our only possible problem is what hardware we can pull together here for demo purposes (hi def tuners and such)
[06:38] <keescook> cool; that'll be a great two weeks
[06:39] <keescook> I'll see if a buddy can bring in his myth (hd) system; he just got it up with feisty.
[06:39] <superm1> oh really?
[06:39] <keescook> yeah, he really liked all the docs and said getting it set up was _super_ easy.  :)
[06:39] <superm1> thats great
[06:39] <superm1> let me know what he would be able to bring, frontend or backend hardware
[06:39] <superm1> the less we have to bring in the plane the better
[06:39] <keescook> okay, cool.  I'll see if I can con him into it.  ;)
[06:40] <superm1> i was going to contact silicon dust after i get added to the page for speaking at this event
[06:40] <superm1> and ask them if they would be willing to sponsor a HDHomeRun tuner for us
[06:40] <superm1> or at least let us borrow one
[06:40] <keescook> niiice
[06:40] <keescook> back later; I gotta catch up from my mini-vacation.  :)
[06:40] <superm1> k.
[06:41] <superm1> well one more quick question if i can
[06:41] <superm1> i should ask you - how is hidef reception in that area, would we expect troubles?
[06:47] <tgm4883_laptop> if anyone sees majoridiot before I do could they let him know I checked TNTHD, ESPNHD, NBCHD, tvlandp, and G4 (all digital channels except tvlandp) and non have 5c implemented or copy control
[06:48] <tgm4883_laptop> i mean none have either
[06:48] <hugolp> Whats the atribute "Browsable" of a video file? I change it but it seems to have no effect
[06:49] <hugolp> anyone?
[06:55] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, i'll let him know if i see him
[06:55] <superm1> your lucky :)
[06:55] <superm1> hugolp, browsable attribute?
[06:55] <superm1> are you saying for individual files
[06:55] <superm1> or mythvideo
[06:57] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks
[06:58] <hugolp> superm1:  "include while browsing" maybe?
[06:59] <superm1> i dont have a mythfrontend avail to me right this minute, but the only thing i can remember about "browsable" is that it shows all files, whether they have been scanned for metadata or not
[06:59] <superm1> its a lot quicker if you have a lot of content in the mythvideo directory and dont care for the metadata
[07:00] <Daviey> superm1, ping
[07:01] <superm1> hi Daviey
[07:01] <superm1> take a look now at pegasus
[07:01] <superm1> see what you think :)
[07:01] <Daviey> looks good
[07:02] <Daviey> did you see ben daily was in here earlier
[07:02] <bendailey> Dailey :)
[07:02] <superm1> hi bendailey
[07:02] <bendailey> hi superm1
[07:03] <bendailey> the site looks pretty good
[07:03] <Daviey> sorry for the miss-pell
[07:03] <hugolp> superm1:  but I do care about the metadata and I want it to behave the other way round and it just wont
[07:03] <superm1> you were the chap that was going to be starting mythbuntu without us right :)
[07:03] <hugolp> anyway thanks
[07:03] <bendailey> not a prob lots of people get it wrong
[07:04] <bendailey> yeah I had it as a brain storm and never got the project started
[07:04] <superm1> ah.  well its been a long work in progress here, lots of behind the scenes things had to happen if we were going to maintain a close relationship with ubuntu
[07:04] <superm1> so thats why there has been no public announcements from us on it
[07:05] <bendailey> OK how has the canonical stuff gone?
[07:06] <superm1> for the moment, it cant be an officially supported derivative in canonical's eyes
[07:06] <superm1> since mythtv is multiverse
[07:06] <superm1> and mythtv is multiverse because it has a build-dep and dep on lame
[07:06] <gardengnome> you could patch out liblame support. isaac richards is going to love you for that... :>
[07:07] <superm1> hehe
[07:07] <bendailey> sounds like fun ...... have to love politics
[07:07] <bendailey> Sorry I am new to IRC is there a way to send private messages?
[07:07] <superm1> bendailey, you missed out on all the fun legal mess with ivtv last fall :)
[07:08] <superm1> you need to register with freenode.net
[07:08] <superm1> and then you can
[07:08] <bendailey> I have
[07:08] <tgm4883_laptop> what program you use?
[07:08] <bendailey> registered that is ....
[07:08] <bendailey> gaim
[07:08] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[07:08] <superm1> then you should be able to.  /msg USER
[07:08] <bendailey> thanks
[07:08] <superm1> i think gaim recognizes /msg (xchat and every other irc app i have used does)
[07:09] <bendailey> what do others use for IRC?
[07:10] <Daviey> xchat
[07:10] <superm1> xchat and irssi are two popular ones
[07:10] <bendailey> thanks I may try them sometime always trying to learn
[07:10] <bendailey> So how can I be of the most help to mythbuntu?
[07:10] <superm1> xchat is pretty user friendly
[07:11] <superm1> well where you say your specialty/strengths lie?
[07:11] <superm1> packaging, python, site management, documentation, artwork
[07:11] <superm1> bug fixing/triaging
[07:11] <Daviey> user support
[07:12] <bendailey> not artwork
[07:12] <bendailey> I can help with site management, and user support
[07:12] <Daviey> great!
[07:13] <bendailey> I can help with bug fixing and I have been lurking on the mythtv mail listing for the last month or so
[07:13] <bendailey> I am working on learning C
[07:13] <Daviey> your brave!
[07:14] <superm1> bendailey, wonderful
[07:14] <bendailey> I can currently can write software patches and follow most code in php, python, perl, javascript, ruby, bash, and .....
[07:14] <bendailey> I can write full apps from scratch in php right now
[07:15] <bendailey> How does the hosting situation look for mythbuntu?
[07:15] <superm1> well hopefully most of the site can be self sustained by drupal
[07:15] <superm1> imbrandon has it under control
[07:15] <superm1> http://pegasus.imbrandon.com is the temporary domain
[07:15] <superm1> we just got that up and running a few days ago
[07:16] <Daviey> Server has only been up 3 days!
[07:16] <bendailey> ok do you want mythbuntu.org pointed at that site? now or in the future?
[07:16] <superm1> well now would be great
[07:16] <superm1> imbrandon, ping?
[07:18] <Daviey> superm1, just for your info - the offical ubuntu theme is installed
[07:18] <superm1> Daviey, very good.
[07:18] <superm1> how configurable is it?
[07:18] <Daviey> seems very
[07:18] <superm1> great
[07:18] <bendailey> does canonical run there other sites on drupal?
[07:18] <Daviey> yes
[07:18] <superm1> yup
[07:18] <bendailey> great
[07:19] <superm1> they recently switched to it (2 months ago i think)
[07:19] <bendailey> ok I assumed the used some CMS I just never dug to see which one
[07:19] <superm1> bendailey, as for the software situation, the big thing right now for several of us is going to be deciphering and adding to ubiquity which is a big python mess
[07:19] <Daviey> Big MESS
[07:20] <superm1> so at this point you can join in that mess, or bug fixing :)
[07:20] <superm1> most of the rest of the ISO generation script is done though
[07:20] <superm1> it builds from a few megs of binary files for isolinux and a short script that debootstraps into an ISO image
[07:21] <bendailey> great
[07:21] <superm1> so in the near future i'm going to get that script and our weekly builds sorted out, and then join these other guys in the ubiquity mess
[07:21] <bendailey> I am getting 503 errors from launchpad when doing a bzr branch
[07:21] <Daviey> so myth-frontend can run from a live cd :)
[07:22] <superm1> when doing what with a bzr branch?
[07:22] <superm1> a push or checkout?
[07:22] <bendailey> $ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel mythbuntu
[07:23] <superm1> i've always done bzr checkout URL location
[07:23] <superm1> i'm not sure if branch is the right verb to use though
[07:23] <bendailey> ok I believe I miss read man page I just read it again sorry
[07:24] <superm1> i've been using bzr for the last 8 months or so, and i'm still a bit confused with it, so dont fret :)
[07:24] <Daviey> heck, we had enough problems setting the branch up!
[07:25] <bendailey> ok nice to know I am not alone
[07:25] <superm1> i think that once we have our first release we should refresh that branch
[07:25] <superm1> its 130 megs or so right now
[07:25] <superm1> because of all the binary files that have been in it at some point
[07:26] <bendailey> I see
[07:26] <bendailey> well should I get in touch with imbrandon about mythbuntu.org?
[07:26] <superm1> yes.
[07:26] <superm1> if he doesnt come back here in the near future, then shoot him an email
[07:28] <superm1> bendailey, do you have his email
[07:30] <Daviey> i gtg
[07:30] <Daviey> speak later
[07:30] <bendailey> thanks Daviey
[07:31] <Daviey> bendailey, before i go - that branch worked fine here
[07:32] <Daviey> $bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel mythbuntu
[07:32] <Daviey> bye
[07:32] <bendailey> I gtg real job calls
[07:32] <superm1> bendailey, i've unfortunately got to run too.  :)
[07:33] <superm1> glad to have touched bases with you
[07:33] <superm1> and that we'll be making mythbuntu rock!
[07:33] <bendailey> nice to have met everyone and I hope I can be of help
[07:33] <superm1> from that stuff you mentioned above with exprience in, i'm sure you will be a great help to us
[07:34] <superm1> have a good afternoon
[07:34] <bendailey> u 2
[07:34] <bendailey> bye
[09:11] <bendailey> imbrandon, ping
[09:15] <imbrandon> pong
[09:15] <imbrandon> bendailey, pong
[09:16] <imbrandon> i'll be in and out the next few minutes, getting ready to do a radio interview ( woot )
[09:16] <imbrandon> just ping me when your back arround
[09:30] <bendailey> imbrandon, ping
[09:30] <imbrandon> pong
[09:30] <bendailey> hey
[09:30] <imbrandon> hello
[09:30] <bendailey> I was told I needed to contact you about mythbuntu.org
[09:30] <bendailey> hello
[09:30] <imbrandon> ahh are you the gent that owns it ?
[09:30] <bendailey> yep
[09:31] <imbrandon> sweet, yea , i be the one to contact
[09:31] <imbrandon> umm are you willing to point the dns to our server or how would you like to do this
[09:32] <imbrandon> has superm1 talked to you about all of us using it ?
[09:32] <bendailey> do you want me to handle DNS? and just point some a records your way or I can point the nameservers on the whois record at a dns server of your choice
[09:32] <bendailey> Daviey gave me a ring on the phone
[09:32] <imbrandon> either way is fine by me, the former is probably the easiest
[09:32] <imbrandon> but toaly upto you
[09:32] <imbrandon> totaly*
[09:33] <imbrandon> yea i'm about to do a phone interview soon so i might have to go afk in a few for moments
[09:33] <imbrandon> not long
[09:33] <bendailey> I have no problem pointing nameservers toward you
[09:33] <imbrandon> but if you want to point a A record to the same ip as pegasus.imbrandon.com for both mythbuntu.org and www.mythbuntu.org and also a MX record
[09:33] <imbrandon> that should be all we need
[09:33] <imbrandon> ok that works too
[09:34] <imbrandon> mind if i call you here in a few moments
[09:34] <imbrandon> after i get off the interview
[09:34] <bendailey> not a problem
[09:34] <bendailey> hit me on IRC after you get done with the interview
[09:34] <bendailey> thanks
[09:34] <imbrandon> kk
[09:35] <imbrandon> /
[09:59] <bendailey> imbrandon, gtg maybe on later or shoot me an email
[10:33] <Markieman234> Hey guys,I've run into a bit of a roadblock with tuning my Hauppauge WinTV Nova T USB2 external card with kubuntu Feisty 7.04.
[10:33] <Markieman234> Can anyone help?
[10:34] <Markieman234> anyone?
[10:35] <Daviey> whats the problem exactly?
[10:35] <Markieman234> The card is installed okay with the proper firmware and mapped to the relevant device location, however when attempting a "scan" command I get the following messages:
[10:35] <Markieman234> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18465/
[10:35] <Markieman234> timeout errors
[10:35] <Markieman234> I get the same in MythTV when doing a channel scan
[10:38] <Daviey> whats the '5' for?
[10:38] <Daviey> i see
[10:38] <Daviey> "multiply all filter timeouts by factor 5"
[10:39] <Markieman234> yep, thats it
[10:39] <Daviey> It's definitely /dev/dvb/adapter0?
[10:39] <Markieman234> thats the one
[10:40] <Daviey> normally you > it into the channels.conf
[10:40] <Daviey> but that shouldn't affect the timeout
[10:40] <Markieman234> I was following this guide
[10:40] <Markieman234> ive checked by disconnecting it and then reconnecting it and
[10:41] <Markieman234> ^^ sorry plz ignore
[10:41] <Markieman234> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NovaTHowTo
[10:41] <rogue780|laptop> howdy howdy howdy
[10:41] <Markieman234> I used that for the dvb-utils info
[10:42] <rogue780|laptop> how do I edit the wiki for mythtv/feisty?
[10:43] <Markieman234> the fact it's a filter timeout leads me to think it's filter related, however xine-ffmpeg is installed as stated in the howto
[10:43] <Daviey> Markieman234, silly question - but have you made it work at all?  Ie card is working and aerial okay?
[10:44] <Markieman234> aerial is perfect, its a roof aerial
[10:44] <Markieman234> the card itself is fine, it works ok under windows
[10:45] <Daviey> hmm
[10:45] <Markieman234> also I did the usb device history command after disconnecting it and reconnecting it again and it picks it up fine and puts it into a warm state, mounting it to /dev/dvb/adapter0
[10:45] <Daviey> Not sure why the kernel needed patching though
[10:46] <Daviey> support for my pci nova's worked out of the box
[10:47] <Markieman234> no it didn't, I ignored the kernel patching bit, I just used it to get the proper "scan" command
[10:47] <Markieman234> FMI
[10:47] <Daviey> Might be worth trying in #mythtv-users - i can't help i'm afraid
[10:47] <Markieman234> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2567333#post2567333
[10:47] <Markieman234> ok, no worries, thanks for your time :)
[10:47] <Daviey> np
[10:54] <tgm4883> rogue780|laptop, what are you trying to edit?
[11:01] <rogue780|laptop> I want to add a section on unichrome drivers
[11:01] <rogue780|laptop> for those of us who've decided to make a frontend with a via epia board
[11:02] <tgm4883> i think you have to be a registered user on launchpad
[11:32] <williammanda> anyone setup a nvidia card for svideo?
[11:37] <superm1> Daviey, grabbed a few more modules for drupal today
[11:37] <imbrandon> superm1, heya
[11:37] <superm1> hey imbrandon
[11:37] <superm1> did ben dailey mail you?
[11:37] <imbrandon> superm1, talked to the mythbuntu.org guy today
[11:37] <imbrandon> yup
[11:37] <imbrandon> seems we'll have everything worked out very shortly
[11:38] <imbrandon> seems like a nice gent
[11:38] <imbrandon> superm1, did Daviey get you drupal access etc
[11:38] <superm1> yup
[11:38] <superm1> imbrandon, did you see the changes around the site yet :)
[11:38] <rogue780|laptop> argh! does anyone know about openchrome? the picture is all distorted on the tv. just black and white, and garbled like HBO
[11:38] <imbrandon> rockin, i'm working on the mail server now
[11:38] <superm1> we got a logo, and i've got a few modules up on there and a few things organized
[11:38] <imbrandon> cool
[11:39] <imbrandon> no i havent looked today yet
[11:39] <imbrandon> been working on some backend stuff
[11:39] <superm1> imbrandon, are you going to do somethign similar to ubuntuwire where you just push the mail to another account?
[11:39] <rogue780|laptop> I'm going though a yellow video cable, i i guess it's called composite, any ideas?
[11:39] <superm1> or actually going to hold a server there
[11:39] <imbrandon> superm1, i was planning on makin full blown mail accounts pop/imap support etc
[11:39] <imbrandon> sicne there will opnly be a few mail accounts on there
[11:39] <imbrandon> only*
[11:40] <imbrandon> ( with forwarding if you wish also )
[11:40] <superm1> ah okay
[11:40] <superm1> imbrandon, i'm still a bit wary that this server can handle all this load?
[11:40] <superm1> doing all this hosting, and mail and all?
[11:40] <imbrandon> its actualy mostly setup now, but i cant do some of the things untill the domain points to the right NS
[11:41] <imbrandon> superm1, we can always upgrade the processor / memory etc
[11:41] <imbrandon> but i have a seperate mail server, you'll notice if you look at the MX records on ubuntuwire its on another box :)
[11:41] <superm1> imbrandon, k.  Daviey just got me a bit worried when told me it was sitting at 90 percent cpu when he hit refresh a bunch
[11:41] <superm1> so i was thinking to myself, god this thing will die from a digg
[11:42] <imbrandon> :)
[11:42] <imbrandon> no worries, also i need to do some optimazations too
[11:43] <superm1> i saw a throttling module that can kick in after so many connections for drupal that i put on there
[11:43] <imbrandon> but i run a popular site ( 3000 hits an hours ) on a 800mhz
[11:43] <imbrandon> an hour*
[11:43] <imbrandon> plus i'm the main mirror for seveas's repos and its on a 600mhz ;)
[11:44] <imbrandon> anyhow yes, we will need to beef up the box, but i can do all that in place with no downtime
[11:44] <imbrandon> as needed
[11:44] <superm1> wow
[11:45] <imbrandon> eventualy i have a 3ghz dual core with 4 gigs of ram i'm gonna migrate it to, but i need to get some things off the box first
[11:45] <superm1> i guess i've underestimated how much is really needed for hosting a site
[11:45] <superm1> how can you do such things in place without downtime?
[11:46] <majoridiot> fast hands?
[11:46] <imbrandon> i do this for a living :) , but DNS tricks
[11:46] <superm1> i mean i can see rsync the filesystem and such
[11:46] <imbrandon> basicly put a new box in place , have it sync, then take the ip and then sway hardware etc
[11:46] <superm1> hehe ah i see
[11:46] <imbrandon> each box i have up there has a dupe
[11:46] <imbrandon> with eactly the same hardware
[11:47] <imbrandon> :)
[11:47] <superm1> for your other boxes do you have some sort of redundancy system ready to go at the "flip of a switch" per say then?
[11:47] <imbrandon> yup
[11:48] <imbrandon> thats why i work on the backend more than the front, i make sure the shit stays stable :)
[11:48] <imbrandon> or try to
[11:48] <superm1> ah i see.  cool cool
[11:49] <superm1> as for building off those other buildd's you have - do i need to get a login for scping stuff over?
[11:49] <superm1> or how does that work
[11:49] <imbrandon> i'll make a generic account for the mythbuntu box to grab the build queue, access is limited to only MOTU and core-dev for now
[11:49] <imbrandon> but i can make machine accounts
[11:49] <superm1> oh i see
[11:50] <superm1> i'm finishing off a script that will run weekly and grab a new svn co of 0.20-fixes
[11:50] <superm1> and put together a debian source package
[11:50] <superm1> to queue up
[11:51] <superm1> and just add to a cron job on Sundays or so
[11:55] <imbrandon> gah one sec brb
[11:56] <imbrandon> cool
[11:57] <imbrandon> yea make the scripts to run localy and i'll adapt the first one or two to show you
[11:57] <imbrandon> then from there you can make them all work with the buildd's
[11:58] <superm1> i had them working locally at home, but on pegasus i made a user that would run the scripts and they are not working perfectly yet, so i've still got to hack at them a bit
[11:58] <imbrandon> ( even if its localy on your machine not the server, either way will work )
[11:58] <imbrandon> ok
[11:58] <tgm4883_laptop> majoridiot, I checked TNTHD, ESPNHD, NBCHD, tvlandp, and G4 (all digital channels except tvlandp) and non have 5c implemented or copy control
[11:59] <majoridiot> superm1 passed along the message via email... tyvm
[11:59] <majoridiot> still waiting for the return call.  good info to have.
[12:10] <superm1> imbrandon, what will be a feasible email address to give the automated package builder to sign the packages with
[12:10] <superm1> packages@mythbuntu.org ?
[12:12] <imbrandon> sure