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kalikianaarchangelpetro, webkit rocks ;) http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sokokech9.png12:32
archangelpetroi understand that my mastery of unix is not yet established.. but surely if you 'cp -r *.class /to/path/here/'12:32
archangelpetrothen surely it's supposed to copy all the class files from that directory and all subdirectories?12:33
kalikianaarchangelpetro, Yes, it should :)12:33
archangelpetroso why doesnt it?12:33
kalikianaWhat does it do instead?12:34
maxamillionarchangelpetro: "cp -r ./*.class /destination/path/"12:34
maxamillionarchangelpetro: i think that might be what you want12:35
maxamillionerrr .. might do*12:35
maxamillionkalikiana: is that your browser?12:35
archangelpetromaxamillion, it doesnt work.12:35
maxamillionarchangelpetro: :(12:36
maxamillionarchangelpetro: i dunno then12:36
archangelpetroi dont understand why?12:36
maxamillionarchangelpetro: me either12:36
archangelpetroThere are hundreds of damn class files :/12:36
maxamillionarchangelpetro: use Thunar and just highlight them :)12:36
archangelpetrotheyre all in different directories though :/ there's over like 14912:37
archangelpetroi cba going into them all12:37
maxamillionhmm...12:37
archangelpetrohttp://rafb.net/p/0ApvRJ43.html12:37
maxamillionarchangelpetro: jeebus12:38
archangelpetro?12:38
archangelpetrothere's about a total of 1500 classes12:40
archangelpetrobtw kalikiana it's sweet12:41
maxamillionarchangelpetro: what could possibly need that many class files?12:41
archangelpetroEvolutionary algorithms12:41
archangelpetrotheyre all automatically generated12:42
archangelpetroi need to summarise  the data for my work now.. but i need them all in one flat file...12:42
archangelpetroany suggestions?12:44
maxamillionwow .... uhmmm.... you could probably write a python script that would recursively go through the files and move them to a separate location12:47
maxamillionerrr... directories*12:47
archangelpetrooh but it's hassle, i dont know python that well12:47
maxamillionoh ... hmm...12:48
archangelpetroi have to finish writing my diss by tues at the latest, i cant really afford to write a program that'll go thru it all :/12:48
maxamillionarchangelpetro: yeah, i have to finish my compiler by wednesday (and its not looking good) or else i would write a python script for you12:48
maxamillioni;m outta here ...12:52
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sc0tchI noticed all my menu items in /usr/share/applications have comments[]  and genericnames[]  in many many languages, can that be stripped out somehow, do I have some sort of un-needed language support installed?01:06
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knicknic I am trying to do a alternate cd install method form a cd I put to disk (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux) but am havinging a hard time convincing the text install to mount the "cd"02:00
knicknicit has Detect&mount cdrom item, but it doesnt want to do it02:01
knicknicI was wondering if I could just mount it to the correct directory myself02:01
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spasticteapotanyone here?02:50
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Jester45well today and yesterday was my first real venture into debian and it wasnt good at all02:54
Jester45at first i did all defualts and it gave me a bloated gnome02:54
Jester45or i reinstalled with just standard system option, and i couldnt get X to reconize my card as having 2 pci bus02:55
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spasticteapotDoes anyone know how to make murrine-configurator work?02:55
Jester45so then i tried standard and then removing gnome and that killed my X02:55
spasticteapotI go to the command line and enter "locate murrine", and it won't even bring up the file.02:56
spasticteapotIt's really weird.02:56
Howdy125spasticteapot, try locate murrine* .. for the heck of it02:57
spasticteapotNothing.02:58
Howdy125:/02:58
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spasticteapotYeah, I dunno.03:00
spasticteapotI downloaded the .deb, and it won't do a bloody thing.03:00
spasticteapotHonestly, I wish that Ubuntu would abandon .deb. 90% of Debian packages won't work anyway.03:01
spasticteapotHeck, they could just re-name .deb as .ubu, and at least we could tell the difference.03:01
Jester45or.. ub.deb03:01
Jester45.ub.deb03:01
Jester45that way its still a deb but ment for ubuntu03:01
spasticteapotGood either way.03:02
Jester45becuase you can still use debs but ub debs would be besty03:02
spasticteapotJester45: Moot point. Someone else is going to decide that.03:02
spasticteapotI just want Murrine already!03:02
Jester45anyone know how to draw a straight line in the gimp?03:03
spasticteapotI wish I did, actually.03:04
Howdy125spasticteapot, have you checked the Murrina web site ?03:04
Jester45it has fancy drawing options but nothing simple03:04
spasticteapotI downloaded Murrine from the repository!03:04
knicknicccan someone help, I install from alternate cd and get errror codename not fonud03:06
Howdy125All I see on the web site is .. After the installation the program can be found under System -> Preferences -> Murrine Configurator03:08
Jester45is it found?03:10
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linux_kidWhat is the size of a minimum xubuntu install?03:16
crimsunwith graphical interface? A gig.03:16
crimsungive or take - that's several months old03:17
Gerrolinux_kid: but then you have to consider swap space03:18
linux_kidGerro, right, crimsun thanks03:18
linux_kidwould it run nice on a flashdrive in qemu03:19
Gerrolinux_kid: hell no qemu sucks even with kqemu fix03:19
linux_kidGerro, then what could i use on a flashdrive w/o installation ?03:20
Gerrolinux_kid: I usually use damnsmall on qemu though since its tiny enough to fit completely in ram03:20
linux_kidGerro, what wm does dsl use03:20
Gerrofluxbox03:21
Jester45fluxbox03:21
Gerroyou could customize though it also has this other one03:21
GerroJester45: hey yesterday you were talking about your server and was wondering you know where I can download a minimal debian 2.4 kernel server OS?03:22
Jester45nope03:22
Jester45y03:23
Jester45opps03:23
Gerrowell my one computer is kind of old and wanted to use it for that but 2.6 kernel doesn't support anything it has03:23
Gerroplus I heard 2.4 is more secure03:23
Jester45you can get drapper or i think debian sarge is still 2.403:23
Gerrodrapper uses 2.4?03:24
Jester45yea03:24
Gerrosweeet!03:24
Gerrobut wait that has a gui03:24
Jester45it did idk if its updated now03:24
Jester45no03:24
Jester45get the alternative cd03:24
Gerroah ok03:24
Gerrothx03:24
Jester45you can choose diffrent installs03:24
Gerrohmm I was thinking about using apache but maybe something more less intensive for a webserver03:25
crimsunlighttpd03:25
Jester45hello crimsun03:25
Jester45i myself do not like debian it might be good for a cli only server but i think it is like MS, with ice weasle and ice everything mozilla has03:27
Gerroyeah what's the deal with all that?03:27
crimsunDebian has much more stringent requirements about Free software.03:27
Jester45copying thing and just change the name and MAYBE a bit of the skin03:27
Gerroyeah they called it mozilla from beginning right?03:28
Gerrohow did it ever get called mozilla firefox and not just firefox?03:28
crimsunUbuntu attempts to balance Freedom and ease of use.03:28
Gerrowho the hell are mozilla!?03:28
Jester45mozilla is a internet suite03:28
Gerrocrimsun: yet it still can't leave the damn win32 codecs in repositories *sighs*03:29
crimsunGerro: medibuntu does IIRC03:29
crimsunin any case, it should be moot with the new CNR deal03:29
crimsunI reserve my opinion on that despite my core-dev involvement.03:30
Jester45and they call its mozilla firefox because it  has the same base or it was a branch of the mozilla browser (maybe?)03:30
Gerrowhat is medibuntu?03:30
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GerroJester45: what is difference between firefox and mozilla?03:30
Jester45poor gerro you have lots to learn03:30
GerroI never quite noticed a different03:31
Jester45they are diffrent browsers, firefox is lighter03:31
Gerrois mozilla dead now?03:31
GerroI'd hate to see how heavy mozilla is *cringes*03:31
crimsunmozilla the company?  Hardly.  Mozilla firefox the web browser?  Hardly.03:31
Jester45no, but i read somewhere that firefox might replace mozilla's browser soon03:31
Gerrooh that reminds me03:32
Gerroanyone know of an adobe flash alternative for 64 bit processors that plays flash movies?03:32
Jester45!flash03:32
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:32
crimsunGerro: gnash plays certain ones.03:32
crimsunat least the latest version is successful with youtube.03:32
Gerrowell gnash was working at first not as good quality but working then it just died on me03:32
Gerroit hasn't worked since03:33
Gerrowhat is the latest version?03:33
Jester45!Gnash03:33
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/03:33
Gerroyeah but do you mean like cvs one?03:34
crimsun0.7.2+cvs20070428.1515-103:34
crimsun[http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnash.html ] 03:34
Jester45whats reisner fs good for03:35
Gerrothat is the one I'm using03:35
GerroI even tried compiling it03:35
Jester45i got my /home as ext3 and / as reiser03:36
Gerroyou partitioned it like that and don't know?03:36
Jester45i thoguht it was good for small files03:36
Jester45yep03:36
Jester45im not worrie about it to much03:36
Jester45i was going to do fat16 :)03:37
Jester45just for kicks03:37
Gerrook well good luck trying to find a live cd with reiser support when something goes wrong03:37
Jester45i dont care03:37
Gerrofat16 is limited to a certain size03:37
Gerrowaste of some space03:38
Jester45crimsun: do you know when xubuntu might get desktop effects like gnome03:38
Jester45many fat16s03:38
Gerrohopefully never lol03:38
Jester45one for each section /etc /var and so on03:38
Jester45why not03:38
Jester45i liked it03:38
Jester45it was faster than beryl03:39
Gerrothen why not just use regular ubuntu?03:39
crimsunJester45: honesty, no idea.03:39
Jester45do you thin it ever will becuase right now its needs lots of gnome stuff03:40
Jester45maybe in 2 more releases03:40
Gerrowhy don't you make your own mod pack then for xubuntu03:40
Gerrocould call it "lootthegnome"03:40
GerroI'm sure everyone would get a kick out of that03:40
Jester45next on gnome mgiht get it out of testing and then the one after xubuntu can get it testingg03:41
Jester45g03:41
Jester45is it bad when on each release you test all the *buntu s03:41
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GerroJester45: if I wasn't using a laptop I would probably do the same03:42
Jester45do you use a mouse on the laptop03:42
Gerrotouchpad but I do have a usb mouse03:42
Gerromost the ones they sell now are portable ones but they sooo damn small03:43
Jester45i trashed a lappy because it had no usb and the mouse port broke, i hate the touch pad03:43
Jester45now a touch screen would be diffrent03:44
ToHellWithGAthat laptop is so manky :(03:44
ToHellWithGAit wouldn't boot into xfce on the 2nd boot03:44
ToHellWithGAor later, for that matter03:44
Jester45i would get a on screen keyboard and keep the computer in the next room03:45
Jester45be so cool03:45
Jester45and fast03:46
GerroJester45: why not install a cli on the lappy03:47
Gerroor you could set it to use the arrow keys for mouse03:47
Gerrowasd mouse would be awesome03:47
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Jester45still not a mouse03:51
Jester45and would be hard to do things03:51
GerroI wish I could change it so on task bar when I do close it means kill process03:52
GerroI mean who ever tries to close something minimized if its not acting up!?03:52
Jester45and i use cli for things that take a long time not for fun typing03:52
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dmhDoes anyone know how to work around the partition manager in xubuntu fiesty automatically REMOUNTING WHILE TRYING TO INSTALL?03:53
dmhARGH!03:53
Gerrodmh: yeah do a manual install and specify a / partition03:53
crimsunerr, I think colin filed a bug against thunar for that.03:53
dmhI've nuked the partition manually with gnome partition manager and it works w/o error03:53
dmhyet03:53
crimsuncolin watson being the ubiquity devel03:53
dmhYET, it doesnt actually do anything03:53
Gerrodmh you have to tell it which is / when you edit a partition manually03:54
dmhGerro: I've tried that several times03:54
Gerrothen your shit out of luck03:54
Gerrorofl03:54
dmhIt shows up as 'unformatted' and I create a new partition03:54
dmhand it formats without error03:54
dmhthe when I run install, it magically mounts the drive again, and all of the old data from a NTFS partition is still there.. so it didnt actually format a thing03:54
Gerrohmm maybe try fdisk and enter in what you told fdisk03:54
Jester45windows fdisk is so cool03:55
dmhim on livecd, sec03:55
dmhi'll try fdisking the bitch03:55
Jester45!language03:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:55
dmhoh :O03:55
Gerroexcuse jester he only speak spanish03:55
Jester45Como Esta?03:55
Gerrocomo estas el Jester taco taco?03:55
Jester45Mew Bewno taco taco Gerro03:56
dmhok I'm going to delete the partitions w/ d03:56
dmhand write, and watch it not take to03:56
Gerromucho linux si! los pengueno03:56
dmhsimply amazing03:56
dmhWARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.03:56
dmhThe kernel still uses the old table.03:57
Jester45PENGUENO PENGUENO!!03:57
dmhis the shed of light03:57
dmhlet me try umounting it one more time..03:57
Gerrohmm maybe fdisk then restart the livecd03:57
dmhyea I'll try that03:58
dmhbrb.03:58
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Jester45crimsun: think i could become the official watch you language person03:58
Gerrojust like having a dozen fat16 partitions03:58
Jester45how big can they be 2g?03:59
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Jester45if 2Gb max i would need 150 partitions, hehe make a new fs that makes a partition for each folder04:00
Jester45!xfmedia04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfmedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:01
Jester45!info xfmedia04:02
ubotuxfmedia: Xfce media player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1428 kB04:02
Jester45anyone know what the backend for it is04:02
crimsunlibxine.04:02
Jester45thanks04:02
Jester45i like xfmedia for music04:02
Jester45but without mp3s its no good04:03
crimsunis libxine1-ffmpeg installed?04:05
Jester45is that the mp3 playback one04:05
crimsunit'll pull in libmad004:06
crimsun!info libmad004:06
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB04:06
crimsun(there.)04:06
Jester45libxine1-ffmpeg worked i would of got it04:07
Jester45i only installed like 4 diffrent distros this weekend04:08
crimsun"only", eh?  :)04:08
Jester45and got them set up how i liked then installed new one04:08
Jester45but... i came crawling back to xubuntu04:08
Jester45sabayon came close04:08
Jester45where are icons stored at04:13
Jester45 the gaim one04:13
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ozzyparrothello04:20
Jester45hello04:21
ozzyparrotwhats the best MP3 player in Xubuntu ?04:21
Jester45depends on what you want04:21
ozzyparrotto play mp304:21
ozzyparrot:-P04:21
ozzyparrotfrom cd rom04:22
ozzyparrotwhen i inserted a cd   it didnt pic up the wav   or mp304:22
ozzyparrotso i can inly play the .ogg04:22
Jester45you can try, gxine, mplayer, xmms, amarok, mpd04:23
Jester45i would suggest mplayer04:23
ozzyparrotamarok  wouldnt play it04:23
Jester45you have to install the backend04:23
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ozzyparrotwhats the backend called?04:24
Jester45try installing libxine1-ffmpeg04:24
Jester45im not sure if that is what it uses04:24
Jester45gxine uses libxine1-ffmpeg04:24
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spasticteapotAnyone else here tried the "Feisty Speed Tweaks?"04:26
spasticteapotMy computer runs FAAAST!04:26
spasticteapothttp://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/04:27
Jester45i will look04:28
Jester45pump out a few more ms of reponse time04:28
spasticteapotHeh.04:28
spasticteapotTry a half-second to a second, easy.04:28
spasticteapotIt's like moving from Gnome to XFCE.04:28
spasticteapotExcept it's from XFCE to XFCE on nitrous.04:29
Jester45well i dont think this machine can speed up a sec more04:30
spasticteapotWhat's your hardware?04:30
Jester45might get into the negative :)04:30
spasticteapotI have a Pentium M currently running at 600mhz.04:30
Jester45each time you press a button you gain 20ns04:30
spasticteapotSingle-core.04:30
spasticteapotOld-school.04:30
Jester452x amd opteron  2.8 each04:32
spasticteapotOh.04:32
spasticteapotOverclocked?04:32
Jester45nope04:32
spasticteapotGadzooks.04:32
Jester45at least not to my knowledge04:32
spasticteapotDualie 940's, eh?04:33
spasticteapotHeh.04:35
Jester45heh04:35
spasticteapotMy new gaming rig has an A64 3000+, Nvidia 6800, and 1GB of Kingston HyperX PC3500.04:35
spasticteapotWhole thing cost me around $200.04:35
Jester45not bad04:36
spasticteapotMaybe $140 if you consider I spent $40 of store credit on the mobo and used some spare parts.04:36
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Jester45lol04:37
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spasticteapotNext year, I'll spend another $200 and have a machine faster than yours.04:37
spasticteapotMoore's Law is a bitch.04:37
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spasticteapotThough, I suppose, you've had that nifty machine for at least a year, maybe a year and a half.04:37
Jester45i exchange dvd drives with cd drives then return the computer to the store04:37
Jester45walmart, best store ever04:38
spasticteapotJester45: I was about to say something...but Mall-Wart sucks dookie.04:38
Jester45no way04:38
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Jester45they dont know anything04:38
McBeardysomeone help04:38
McBeardyxfce is busted04:38
McBeardy:(04:38
spasticteapotMcBeardy: You too?04:38
McBeardyoh no, is it an epidemic?04:39
spasticteapotLemme guess - you had Feisty Beta, updated it to release, and XFCE asploded?04:39
Jester45you could buy a plasma tv and return a old black and white and they would give you your money back04:39
spasticteapotJester45: Cripes. They ARE dumb.04:39
McBeardyno, i have edgy04:39
spasticteapotMcBeardy: Oh.04:39
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spasticteapotWhat's the issue?04:39
McBeardyand now none of the windows have bars over them04:39
spasticteapotHuh.04:39
McBeardylike the bar you click to move or minimize04:39
spasticteapotSounds like your window manager asploded.04:39
Jester45like boom or BOOM or just a fizzel04:39
Doctordoogwait, what did you do again?04:39
McBeardyand the panel at the bottom shows no programs in it04:39
McBeardyand doesnt do anything04:39
Doctordooghuh, do you have a terminal open04:40
Doctordoogor can you open one04:40
McBeardyhmm, lemme see04:40
Jester45McBeardy: press alt + f2 then type xfwm4 then click run04:40
spasticteapotMcBeardy: Upon starting up, press ctrl-alt-F1. This will give you a plain BASH screen.04:40
spasticteapotMcBeardy: Sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get uninstall (XFCE stuff), sudo apt-get install (XFCE stuff).04:41
McBeardyhmm04:41
McBeardywlel04:41
spasticteapotThat's sort of a brute force approach, of course.04:41
McBeardythe xfwm4 seemed to help04:41
McBeardynow i have the programs at the bottom04:41
spasticteapotMcBeardy: Jester45's solution is probbably better.04:41
Jester45hehe im god, and you know it04:41
McBeardyi wonder if it will start in the future04:41
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spasticteapotMcBeardy: Restart, then come back if it won't work.04:42
Jester45his fast04:42
spasticteapotAlt-F2 is the shortcut to running programs.04:42
McBeardyyes, i remembered alt f204:42
Jester45yes...04:42
McBeardydidnt know xfwm4 though04:42
McBeardythanks a bunch!04:42
Jester45np04:42
Jester45your welcome04:42
McBeardyi will log out / in04:42
Jester45no04:42
Jester45darn04:42
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Jester45he should of held in the power button or removed the power cord04:43
Jester45much much funner04:43
McBeardyhmm04:43
Jester45or more fun04:43
McBeardydidnt start up default04:43
McBeardyweird04:43
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Jester45looks like its been removed from somthing04:43
Jester45idk what it is maybe gdm or xsession04:44
McBeardyi recently installed iceWM04:44
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McBeardymaybe something happened with that04:44
Doctordoogheh, maybe04:44
Jester45yep04:44
Doctordoogit depends on GDM04:44
Doctordoogclick the sessions button and make sure that you're booting into XFCE04:44
Jester45o yea doctor, i did do that i was just saying that you probly could04:45
_Codeman_Why do I keep getting this?: tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory04:45
Doctordoogis there such a file or directory?04:45
Jester45hehe04:45
spasticteapot_Codeman_, Because you're seperating the letters after the TAR?04:45
spasticteapotAs in "tar xvzj"04:45
spasticteapotIt's not "tar x v z j"04:46
Jester45smart one04:46
Jester45i woudlnt of tought of that04:46
spasticteapotI read the O'Riley Guide to Linux...1996 edition.04:46
_Codeman_# tar -xfz /home/codeman/FreeBASIC.tar.gz04:46
McBeardyyep, its the correct session04:46
spasticteapotI know the simple-tastic oldschool stuff.04:46
spasticteapot_Codeman_, I don't think you need the dash. I never use one.04:47
Doctordoogwhat would you say is the safe way to slice a new partition off of my linux partition, without having to reinstall linux and whatnot04:47
Jester45i dont think you do04:47
_Codeman_spasticteapot: Now it's talking about skipping header :/04:48
Jester45sudo rm -r * :)04:48
Doctordoog:P04:48
Jester45dont run it04:48
DoctordoogI won't04:48
Jester45dont run anything with :) on it04:48
Jester45or anything i tell you to04:48
Doctordooggood rules to follow04:48
Doctordoogdon't listen to the fool04:48
Jester45if you stick to above you should be fine04:48
Jester45you mean cool, right04:49
DoctordoogI mean fool, o' jester04:49
Jester45look at my name, <---- that direction04:49
Doctordoogwhat with it being your handle here04:49
Jester45i jsut play in here most of the time04:49
Doctordoogsounds like a plan :P04:50
McBeardyanyone know where i would look to fix this starting up issue04:50
Doctordoogxsession?04:50
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Jester45hehe i got banned 3 times for "playing to much" "not shutting up" and the popular "somerville32 just hates me"04:51
Doctordoogheh04:51
Jester45.xsession or gdm conf04:51
Jester451357 packages installed, time to clean up the place04:53
Jester45dependace tree building are to long04:53
McBeardyjust type .xsession into something04:53
McBeardy?04:53
Jester45no04:53
Jester45!xsession04:53
Doctordoogno, you have to open the .xsession file in your favourite editor04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xsession - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:53
Jester45darn have to explain it04:54
Jester45its in /home/user/.xsession04:54
_Codeman_what does this mean: tar: Skipping to next header04:54
_Codeman_or rather why is it not extracting all the files?04:55
McBeardyhmm04:55
McBeardyi will investigate04:55
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Jester45im sleepy, anyone got some soda? maybe reverse your printer and send it to me or scan it to me? i think my printer can print out soda04:58
spasticteapotCaffiene++04:58
Jester45+++++++++++ for please04:59
Jester45^me please04:59
McBeardycaffiene is teh suc04:59
McBeardyk04:59
spasticteapotMcBeardy: WTF?05:00
McBeardyim not seeing an .xsession file05:00
Jester45its hidden05:00
McBeardyeven with those shown05:00
Jester45run this in a terminal05:00
McBeardyi only see .xsession-errors05:00
Jester45mousepad /home/yourusername/.xsession05:00
Jester45maybe look at that05:00
Jester45what can open .doc files05:02
Jester45abiand mousepad cant05:02
_Codeman_staroffice?05:02
Jester45oo i dont want that05:02
_Codeman_OpenOffice sorry05:02
Jester45or that05:02
_Codeman_why05:02
Jester45i break a finger each time i use java if its not azureus05:03
_Codeman_interesting05:03
Jester45have ot remove that habit05:03
Jester45it worked so far05:03
Jester45havent used java or 5 mins :)05:03
McBeardyhmm05:04
McBeardythe file is extra empty05:04
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Jester45would somone pastebin this please http://kmandla.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed-10-htmltarbz2.doc05:08
spasticteapotJester45: why?05:09
spasticteapotJust download it already!05:09
spasticteapotRemove the .doc, and turn it into a .tar.bz05:09
Jester45because i dont have openoffice and dont want to get it05:09
spasticteapot(he made it a .doc so he could host it.)05:09
spasticteapotJester45: You don't need it.05:09
Jester45o really?05:09
spasticteapotRemove the .doc.05:09
spasticteapotIt's a .tar.bz2.05:09
Jester45why doesnt he put that in big RED LETTERS05:10
Jester45im not gonna read his whole post05:10
Jester45lol no wonder why mousepad didnt get it05:10
McBeardyanyone have a good theme they'd like to propagate05:14
Jester45the defualt xfce one05:15
Jester45how can i check if im using reisner v4 or v305:33
crimsunif you don't know, you won't be running v4.05:34
Jester45i just chose reiser05:35
Jester45so v3 them05:35
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jrsimsok, wireless works great out of the box. it picks up my wifi router no problem. But! How does it decide which WAP to use out of the box?06:30
jrsimsI don't recall being asked which wifi point to use during install, but maybe I just forgot06:30
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maxamillionhttp://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201179&pgno=1&queryText=  <---click on the windows vista logo on that page .... its fun :)08:11
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amolhi im using debian but im having problem .... desktop->admin->services..then i m getting could not run su check that u have permission for that where i have to do changes so that i can run services..i logged as a root....same thing i used in ubuntu then it is working fine why?08:18
Myrttiyou're using debian and gnome?08:19
amolgnome08:19
Myrtti... you're a bit on the wrong channel, you know?08:19
amolya but i know that it is working in ubuntu08:20
Gerroeh xubuntu is debian based and desktop manager is similar to gnome08:20
Myrttigdm?08:20
amolyse gdm2.1408:21
Myrttiok, whatever08:21
Gerroamol: so you typed a wrong password? or you have trouble escalating privileges to root08:22
amolgerro:i logged as a root ..so whenever i m clicking for services or typing command then direct same error is getting08:24
amolit is not asking for any password08:24
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Gerroand the error is you lack permission to do something?08:24
Gerroif your root then it shouldn't ask you for password08:24
Gerroand if you just typed the password it probably won't ask for it08:25
Myrttiyou logged in to a graphical session as root?08:25
Myrttiooookk.08:25
amolyse08:25
Myrttigood luck08:26
Myrtti/me turns around and runs08:26
amolwhat happened any mistake08:26
Myrttiwell you might be having difficulties in the future with your normal session as a normal user08:26
Gerrosome administration apps drop privileges down to your user rather than you becoming root08:27
Gerroshouldn't be a problem though...08:27
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Gerroyeah it might try installing a separate system for root08:27
amolhow i can run services?08:27
amolwhat i have to do?08:28
Gerroohh there is a file you have to change08:28
amolwhich one?08:28
GerroI forget which it is08:29
GerroI normally try to stay away from that08:29
amolplz can u remember it?08:29
Gerroits in /etc08:29
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Myrttiinit?08:29
Gerroyes!08:29
Gerrosorta08:29
GerroI know fedora has chkconfig08:29
Gerroor something like that08:30
Myrttixinetd.conf08:30
Gerromaybe that was it08:30
Myrttithat or inetd.conf08:30
Gerrothere is a command like update rc.d or whatever08:30
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pzlerhey everyone i have a question. is it true that gnome aplications are better for xfce then kde aplications?08:44
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Catoptromancyall depeneds09:16
pzleron what?09:17
pzlergtk?09:17
Catoptromancydunno09:18
CatoptromancyI just download whatever looks good09:18
Catoptromancylooks= works09:18
CatoptromancyI use kaffeine and have little problem with it09:19
pzlereverything seems to work but some apps slow down my computer to much09:19
pzleri love amarok but once i start it everything gets a lot slower09:20
Catoptromancykaffeine does take a little longer than usual to load, but once its up its fine09:20
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pzlermaybe i should really expand my ram *sigh*09:22
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Catoptromancywhat was the command to list running processes10:12
Catoptromancyand kill them10:12
Catoptromancyby ID10:12
CatoptromancyI cant open firefox, and something really eating my ram10:13
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Lsi(ps x)(kill ID)/(killall firefox)10:14
LsiCant really remember is there any grafical tool for that.10:14
Lsisome sort of forcekill maybe? mm.10:15
Catoptromancydunno but my cpu graph is pure red10:15
Catoptromancyand idle it half10:15
Catoptromancyits never pure red10:15
LsiSomething's jamming around.10:16
Catoptromancyyay10:16
Catoptromancyrofl I opened a complete copy of the bible in 1 .txt in abiword10:17
Catoptromancyback to all green10:17
Catoptromancyabiword hates big txt files10:17
LsiYou could check out the usage with top, htop or so, in termina10:17
Lsil10:17
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Lsimm.. big txt-files..10:19
pzlerthere is a graphical app to do that10:39
pzlerit's somewhere in the menu10:39
pzlerill look it up for you10:40
pzlerproces manager10:41
pzlerprocess manager10:41
pzlergo to the menu10:41
Catoptromancybash is cool10:41
pzlerit's in system10:41
Catoptromancywhen im nearly froze id rather use something faster10:42
pzlerit allways works fast enough for me when stuff freezes10:42
Catoptromancyi already made a nice shell script that runs ps x  with instructions10:44
Catoptromancynice and easy cmd line10:44
Merchelocli 4 life10:48
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jjohnsonhi10:52
jjohnsonanyone on10:52
Merchelo!anyone | jjohnson10:53
ubotujjohnson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:53
Catoptromancyheh10:54
jjohnsonhi i was woundering how do i change the defauld sounds in xubuntu10:55
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jjohnsonhi i was woundering how do i change the defauld sounds in xubuntu11:02
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Merchelo!sound11:03
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:03
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Cyriaquehello room ;)11:07
Cyriaqueis someone can tell me where is the sound manager (to change all sound) under xubuntu???11:08
jjohnsonim askins same question11:09
jjohnsoni two want to change sounds11:09
Cyriaqueit's hard to get some info on the net about that !!11:09
kalikiana_You mean 'xfce4-mixer'?11:10
Cyriaqueelse xubuntu is perfect for me :d11:10
kalikiana_Indeed the only place where I see it is the volume panel plugin.11:10
h3sp4wnWhat I think they mean is how to change system sounds11:10
Cyriaqueyes it's that11:11
h3sp4wnlike alert and startup sound etc etc11:11
jjohnsonsame here whenever doing a search i find info on how to fix no sound card but not change sounds11:11
Cyriaquei know xfce4-mixer, i can change the sound with that11:11
Cyriaqueyes h3sp4wn11:11
h3sp4wnunfortunately I don't know how to do it11:12
Cyriaquei have found the repertories: /usr/share/sounds11:12
Cyriaquebut it seems to be not used by xfce11:12
Cyriaqueperhaps we must paste it somewhere else ?11:13
jjohnsonim thinking it has to be done in some config file (aka slackware text editing style011:13
kalikiana_I am not sure if xfce has any kind of system sounds.11:13
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Cyriaqueit is a great questions ;)11:13
h3sp4wnI just presumed it had (I don't run a esd or artsd so guessed I just didn't have them)11:14
Catoptromancyactaully i never recall hearing any system sounds in xfce11:14
h3sp4wnor want them11:14
Cyriaquefinally i don't think so but it's curious because it doesn't cost any big ressource11:14
jjohnsonbrb11:16
jjohnsoni found out how to change some sounds11:19
jjohnsonits in system and login window11:20
jjohnsonthe only problem it must be in wav format11:24
Cyriaquei don't see login windows in system11:24
h3sp4wnCyriaque: try running xfsound11:25
Cyriaquebash: xfsound: command not found11:25
h3sp4wnhttp://swoolley.homeip.net/man.cgi/1/xfsound11:26
jjohnsontry system, then login11:26
jjohnsonand there is a login sound setting11:26
h3sp4wnthat looks like what you want to me11:26
Cyriaqueyes thanks i see but it is just for login's sound11:27
jjohnsonwell at least its a start11:27
Cyriaqueyes ;)11:28
Cyriaquethanks h3sp4wn i am going to search about that11:28
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abdI need install only the package of presentation(PPS,PPT,....) from opneoffice !!?11:38
abd*openoffice.org11:39
Catoptromancyadd/remove programs does do it?11:39
abdi'm using apt-get & I found its name(openoffice.org-impress) ths11:41
Catoptromancyuse add/remove  in applications > system menu11:41
Catoptromancymuch easier11:41
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abdI feel apt-get more efficient !!, avoiding gui is faster11:46
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okazujesiezenieHi. I have a few question. I dont have low speed machine, is the xubuntu right choice.12:06
okazujesiezenieI am not expert in linux. Schould i use other envoirment?12:07
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Catoptromancyhow low speed?12:08
Catoptromancytry the alternate .iso12:08
okazujesiezeniei mean my pc is not low speed12:09
okazujesiezenieamd 2800+12:09
Catoptromancyxubuntu probably the fastest linux distro12:09
okazujesiezeniebut i see that most people write that xubuntu is for low speed mashines12:09
Catoptromancynot only12:09
CatoptromancyI have a nearly new fast machine12:09
okazujesiezenieok12:09
CatoptromancyI jsut like basic OSes12:10
Catoptromancyyou can add other stuff later anyway12:10
okazujesiezenieI am more less newbie, i use linux for 6 years. Is Xfce eeasy to use?12:10
Catoptromancy6 years? I been using less than 2 weeks12:11
Catoptromancyvery easy12:11
Catoptromancywell unless you try to compile programs and dont have the right libs12:11
Catoptromancyheh12:11
okazujesiezeniedoes it contain any network manager?12:11
okazujesiezenieI have wireless network and i always had problem with it12:12
Catoptromancyhmmm12:12
Catoptromancyuse ndiswrapper?12:12
Mercheloor it could be already supported12:12
darrendokazujesiezenie: I use xubuntu on some very high spec machines12:12
Merchelo!wifi12:12
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:12
darrendI just prefer XFCE to gnome12:12
Catoptromancytook me 3 hours to get my USB wireless working12:12
Catoptromancynext time it took 2 minutes12:12
Catoptromancyonce you know what to do its very easy12:12
Catoptromancytake the 3 files for drivers off CD, and put on PC12:13
Catoptromancyndiswrapper -i foobar.inf12:13
Catoptromancyinstalls it12:13
Catoptromancythata easy12:13
okazujesiezenieOk so i am gonna download and install xubuntu12:14
okazujesiezenieThank you for answering my questions12:14
Catoptromancynp12:15
Catoptromancydebian wiki also has a good tutorial on ndiswrapper12:15
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Cyriaquei don't found anything about xfsound with xubuntu12:39
Cyriaqueso is there any sound system in xubuntu ?12:40
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abdwhat's the name of java package (for development Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition (package j2sdk1.4)works?)?12:53
darrendabd: aptitude search jdk12:56
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kalikiana_Does anyone have an idea why the system load plugin would show only half of the available RAM?01:06
darrendkalikiana_: how much RAM do you have?01:10
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kalikiana_darrend, 1024MB. The plugin recognizes only 512MB, though.01:14
darrendkalikiana_: what's the output of 'free' ?01:15
kalikiana_darrend, Mem total is "515452". I did not know that command.01:16
darrendseems that the OS can't see half your memory01:16
darrendyou could do a memtest at next boot, but sounds likely that you have 2x512MB DIMM's and one is either faulty or not correctly seated in the motherboard01:17
darrendthis happen recently?  Did it used to report 1GB total?01:18
kalikiana_darrend, The plugin never reported any other value. And until now I didn't really bother.01:19
darrendfirst up, I'd check that both modules are clipped firmly into the mobo, then run a full memory test01:19
kalikiana_Yeah, I should run a test. I hope the modules are only lose.01:20
kalikiana_darrend, Can I run the test from a running linux?01:21
darrendkalikiana_: you often get the option from the bootloader menu (you will at the very least have to reboot - you can't do it from a booted OS since it pokes around at the memory bits which would destroy your running OS and apps!)01:30
darrendbut it depends how the bootloader is configured.01:30
darrendI'm not even sure ubuntu enables it by default01:30
Cyriaqueyes it is01:31
kalikiana_Hm, okay. Thank you so far. I have it on a livecd if it's not in the bootloader.01:31
kalikiana_I just thought from a running linux would be more comfy. ;)01:31
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darrendmm.. looks like it is enabled01:32
darrenda reboot should have the "memtest86" option on it.  Pick that.01:32
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renatohi there !02:08
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Merchelohow do i start a ssh server on my local box ?02:10
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Merchelonot installed by default02:29
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darrendkalikiana_: did you fix your memory problem?02:39
kalikiana__darrend, Not yet, I was only disconnected by my isp.02:42
darrendk02:42
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renatohi there... I am trying to connect my (very old) notebook to the internet via usb (i don't have an ethernet card)...02:57
renatosomeone could help me on it ?02:57
Catoptromancyusb wireless?02:59
Catoptromancyadaptor?02:59
renatonope.... the conventional usb02:59
renatoI have a cable modem02:59
CatoptromancyI guess this might work02:59
renatobut when I connect it into my notebook... nothing happen02:59
Catoptromancywith the drivers03:00
Catoptromancy<Catoptromancy> take the 3 files for drivers off CD, and put on PC03:00
Catoptromancy<Catoptromancy> ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf03:00
Catoptromancy<Catoptromancy> installs it03:00
Catoptromancy<Catoptromancy> thata easy03:00
Catoptromancyshould be a folder on CD with 3 files for the driver03:00
Catoptromancyprobably better to search google first03:01
renatoi don't have the ndiswrapper installed03:03
Catoptromancysearch google first03:03
renatodo I have to install ndiswrapper-utils or ndiswrapper-common ?03:03
Catoptromancyim not sure about cable modems03:03
Catoptromancycheck debian wiki03:04
Catoptromancyi guess it wouldnt hurt03:04
Catoptromancyget both ndiswrapper libs03:04
renatoi see... but this ndiswrapper isn't just for wireless connection?03:05
Catoptromancyhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cable+modem+linux+&btnG=Search03:07
Catoptromancyprobably better answers there03:07
renato:)03:09
renatothank you03:09
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renato_hi... I have xubuntu installed in (a very old) notebook (no ethernet connection)... and I would like to connect my cable modem via usb... someone could help me?03:13
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renato_hi there! I wonder if someone could help me to set my cable modem to connect the internet via usb...04:57
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LoneShadowdoes xubuntu have a feisty livecd ?05:51
max_at_classLoneShadow: yes05:51
max_at_classLoneShadow: www.xubuntu.org/get05:51
LoneShadowmax_at_class: do you know if the persistent problem is fixed in it?05:51
max_at_classLoneShadow: which one?05:51
max_at_classLoneShadow: actually i really have to go ... i am late for class05:52
max_at_classsorry05:52
LoneShadowin persitent mode, I should be able to add packages05:52
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LoneShadowok :)05:52
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Nomitahi all06:31
Blasturhello.. i'm having some problems getting Xubuntu (or any ubuntu to run). The problem is my new monitor, which basically seems to refuse displaying whatever default resolution xubuntu uses. It goes black and displays "Non optimal mode 1440x900". With my old CRT-monitor everything worked fine. So, I tried to run the "safe graphics mode"-installer instead, which works, but the resolution is so low that I cannot use the installer 06:31
BlasturNow I have downloaded and installed xubuntu via the alt. cd (text-mode), and it worked fine. Only, when I start the newly installed system, the screen goes black with the "non optimal mode 1440x900" message. The screen is a Samsung 940BW, and there seems to be others with similar problems like http://blog.aizatto.com/2007/02/14/samsung-syncmaster-940bw/ but i can't even get to my config files to modify my settings since my scr06:32
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Myrttisince my scr06:37
Myrttiirc has a limit on how long your messages can be06:37
Blasturso, in short: is there a way to not auto-start the UI, and let me edit my xorg.conf-files?06:37
Myrttiwell you can always leave the non functional GUI thing with (ctrl-)alt-F106:38
Blasturokay, will that put me in a prompt?06:38
Myrttiyeah06:38
Blasturlike a shell or whatever06:38
Blasturcool06:38
Myrttiand X starts in tty706:39
Blasturgonna reboot into xubuntu and try that then, hopefully it'll work06:39
Myrtti--> alt-F706:39
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vaiohi i gotta problem, im trying to watch avi files with vlc but the pictures is laggy, sound is fine06:52
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deniz_ogutHi dear friends. Encouraged by the Ubuntu Open Week's session related with xubuntu I installled xubuntu Feisty yestarday and now dealing with some bug  triaging raleted with terminal issue. Is there anybody to help? May I ask a few questions?06:59
Merchelo!ask | deniz_ogut07:00
ubotudeniz_ogut: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:00
deniz_ogutThere's Bug #9184907:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91849 in xfce4-terminal "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9184907:01
deniz_ogutthis is confirmed and assigned to upstream.07:02
deniz_ogutand there is Bug #99170 which is not decided yet.07:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99170 in xfce4-terminal "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_notebook_get_current_page()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9917007:02
h3sp4wndeniz_ogut: doesn't affect debian unstable07:03
deniz_ogutMy question is something else: Do you have any idea if Bug #99170 is a duplicate of Bug #91849 ?07:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99170 in xfce4-terminal "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_notebook_get_current_page()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9917007:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91849 in xfce4-terminal "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9184907:04
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deniz_oguth3sp4wn: What do you mean by "doesn't affect debian unstable" ? I installed xubuntu feisty stable and I have this problem as well. What do you propose me to do?07:08
Catoptromancywould it be possible to triple boot computers?07:09
Catoptromancylike 3 OSes07:09
Smygisyes07:12
Catoptromancyhow many GBs does usual linux install use?07:12
Catoptromancyubuntu, gentoo, fedora?07:12
h3sp4wndeniz_ogut: I am just telling you - that my laptop (that has an i810 is not crashing with xfce 4.4.107:13
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h3sp4wndeniz_ogut: my desktop has feisy07:13
h3sp4wnfeisty07:13
deniz_ogutxubuntu feisty?07:13
h3sp4wnyep07:13
h3sp4wndesktop is not i810 though07:14
deniz_oguth3sp4wn: But you installed that version manuelly it is not the one coming with xubuntu feisty by default, isn't it?07:15
h3sp4wndeniz_ogut: Its a different version07:17
renatoHi there... I am trying to connect my cable modem (motorola surfboard 5120) via usb into my xubuntu 7.04... but I can't make it be reconized... someone could help me on it ?07:18
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deniz_oguth3sp4wn: My question at the moment is not to solve the problem for myself, its rather relater with triaging a bug related with this issue properly. Simply if bug 99170 is a duplicate of 91849. Triaging it may be useful for both bugsquad and xubuntu.07:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99170 in xfce4-terminal "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_notebook_get_current_page()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9917007:20
h3sp4wndeniz_ogut: do you not need to ask the xfce development channel or whatever ?(I don't know how triaging works)07:21
posingaspopularh3sp4wn: what do you need help with07:21
deniz_ogutok, thanks.07:21
posingaspopulari know how to triage more or less07:21
h3sp4wnIts deniz_ogut who needs to know07:21
posingaspopularerm @ deniz_ogut than07:22
deniz_ogutposingaspopular: Simply if bug 99170 is a duplicate of 91849 ? Triaging it may be useful for both bugsquad and xubuntu.07:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99170 in xfce4-terminal "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_notebook_get_current_page()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9917007:22
posingaspopular99170 should be closed, because it is beta, im assuming 91849 is a final release candidate of xubuntu?07:24
deniz_ogutposingaspopular: at least I'm having the problem just as it states with xubuntu feisty stable which i installed yesterday.07:26
deniz_ogutand even if 99170 is dealing with beta, it isn't marked as closed and i am higly suspicious that it has something to da with 91849.07:27
posingaspopularso it would be an upstream issue07:27
h3sp4wnIt could be to do with lib-xcb07:28
h3sp4wnand hence nothing to do with xfce upstream though07:28
deniz_ogutok. and actually 91840 is assigned to upstream. now what i want to do is linking 99170 to 91849 but i am not sure if it is a duplicate of that.07:28
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posingaspopularhmm that is a strange issue to have07:31
deniz_ogutDear friends, lets start from here: When you install(ed) xubuntu Feisty, did you/do yu have a x crash problem when open a terminal, the terminal which comes with the distro as default?07:32
Myrttiwith intel i81007:33
posingaspopularsorry i need a nap07:33
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LMJ2hello the chan07:33
deniz_ogutMyritti: lets say so, with intel i810. (I have no clue about mine, let(s say it is that)07:35
deniz_ogutMyrtti: lets say so, with intel i810. (I have no clue about mine, let's say it is that)07:36
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domenicwhere can i get music and video codecs for xubuntu?07:37
h3sp4wn!codecs07:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
domenicthank you07:37
abdhow ensure that all devices have their drivers!! , (audio & VGA )07:43
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hyper_ch!install07:59
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate07:59
soweto76!mp307:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:59
LMJ2hello the chan07:59
LMJ2I installed ATI drivers but during the tutorial, i have to set "Composite" to "0" and it makes loose the composite (transparency) XFCE windows effect, is there a way to fix it ?08:00
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h3sp4wnfglrx doesn't support composite08:02
westbaerhello08:02
westbaerI've a problem with the Xubuntu Feisty LiveCD/Desktop08:03
LMJ2so, it's dead to get at the same time opengl acceleration & compositing with ATI cards ?08:04
h3sp4wnuse the free drivers08:04
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h3sp4wnif you can (and presumably you otherwise you wouldn't have known about it08:05
h3sp4wnAvoid fglrx if at all possible08:05
westbaerI have an IDE Harddisk but Xubuntu will install/formatting a SCSI Harddisk, so I can't install08:07
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h3sp4wn!libata08:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:07
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okazujesiezenieHi all i ma having problem with my wireless08:07
Gerrohmm trying to use this wine application and I keep getting back this error "err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems"08:08
okazujesiezeniei turned to xubuntu after i couldnt set up my wi fi on ubuntu08:08
westbaer(sorry for my bad english, I'm an austrian user, in the german channel there are all quiet.)08:08
Gerromy xorg.conf looks fine and other opengl stuff runs08:08
h3sp4wnwestbaer: its because of libata - all disks appear as scsi now08:08
okazujesiezenieis there anyone here using wireless network on xubuntu?08:08
GerroI am08:08
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okazujesiezenieGerro: do you have static ip, or dhcp?08:09
westbaerthat's shit... nothing works...08:09
Gerroso far I haven't played around with it, but I knew on 6.10 my wireless worked until I updated kernel so it is possible, I use ipw3945 and its listed in restricted modules for some reason08:09
h3sp4wnIt always needed firmware08:09
Gerromy brother uses xubuntu too and he has broadcom wireless which worked on opensuse but so far no luck yet08:09
LMJ2ok, thanks for the help08:09
maxamillion!language | westbaer08:09
ubotuwestbaer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:09
Gerrookazujesiezenie: I usually use dhcp08:10
westbaeroh, sorry08:10
maxamillionGerro: that's probably because openSuSE includes the firmware in a third party repository08:10
Gerro!language | Gerro08:10
maxamillionwestbaer: its ok, just a friendly suggestion :)08:10
maxamillionGerro: or might even "ship" with the correct firmware08:10
okazujesiezenieyep it's the same here. I could configure it onm opensuse, but i vcant on ubuntu and xubuntu either08:10
Gerromaxamillion: no he used ndiswrapper with bcmwl5.inf and .sy08:10
Gerro.sys08:11
westbaerSo, I must burn an another Xubuntu (6.10)?08:11
maxamillionGerro: oh .. then why doesn't the same thing work in Xubuntu?08:11
westbaerand then "gksu "update-manager -c" ?08:11
Gerrookazujesiezenie: well broadcom ones have maaany different versions so I need to find the write driver to upload with ndiswrapper08:11
okazujesiezeniei have atheros chipset08:11
h3sp4wnthe d80211 brcm43xx works quite well now08:11
maxamillionGerro: do you know what broadcom card you have?08:12
h3sp4wn(use the wl.o firmare)08:12
Gerromaxamillion: yeah just a sec turning his comp on08:12
Gerromaxamillion: maxamillion: funny thing with that computer it uses nvidia yet some how xorg said it was radeon card08:12
okazujesiezeniethe thing is that on ubuntu it is recognised by system i can set all the stuff but it doesent work. On xubuntu io cant even see my access point08:13
maxamillionGerro: whoa ... that's _really_ weird08:13
Gerroyeah I know!08:13
Gerroall I tried was to set it to 32 bit color depth for some game08:13
h3sp4wnokazujesiezenie: what is the interface called ?08:13
Gerrothen I edited it wrong had some sort of unicode or whatever in xorg.conf08:13
Gerronow it says wrong driver08:13
okazujesiezenieh3sp4wn: what you mean?08:13
okazujesiezenieath008:13
maxamillionGerro: huh ... can't say i have ever heard of such an issue08:14
Gerrooh speaking of which is there anyway to parse a xorg config in like offline to see if its readable08:14
maxamillionGerro: i don't entirely follow the question08:15
Gerroah well nvm08:15
westbaerno one can help me?08:16
GerroI think its that damn world of warcraft under wine fucking up graphics, this laptop now is reporting it can't use opengl08:17
maxamillion!language Gerro08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language gerro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
maxamillion!language | Gerro08:17
ubotuGerro: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:17
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Gerrook I will search there08:17
h3sp4wnokazujesiezenie: using dapper ?08:18
okazujesiezenieh3sp4wn: newest one08:18
okazujesiezenieh3sp4wn:  Feisty Fawn)08:19
Gerroomg it works08:19
Gerrowoooot!08:19
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okazujesiezenieh3sp4wn: any idea?08:27
westbaerwhen I will formatting the sda, so I became the error "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed"08:27
okazujesiezeniewestbaer: i had the same08:29
okazujesiezeniedo you have any other partition in there?08:29
westbaerno, currently I have openSUSE  on the system. Now I will switch on Xubuntu08:30
godlessokazujesiezenie:  Are you using an atheros chipset wifi card?08:30
okazujesiezeniegodless: yes08:31
godlessI have had to manually make madwifi everytime I upgrade the kernel08:31
godless:/08:31
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godlessokazujesiezenie:  Get madwifi from madwifi.org, install build-essential, sharutils, and linux-headers-`uname -r`08:33
godlessokazujesiezenie:  untar madwifi (tar xvzf madwifi-0.9.3, iirc)08:34
godlessokazujesiezenie:  cd madwifi-0.9.3, sudo make, sudo make install, reboot and see if it works :)08:34
godlessyou will still need to configure ath0 if you haven't08:35
godlesswifi-radar can be a useful package in this respect, too08:36
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godlessokazujesiezenie:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972 for a more complete description... the third post down is a good howto.08:45
godlessthe url he uses for madwifi doesn't work anymore but as I say you can download from madwifi.org08:46
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godlessand you need to replace his kernel with uname -r where he specifies the kernel explicitly (seeing as that is likely not your kernel)08:47
h3sp4wnokazujesiezenie: madwifi 0.9.3 has been not to good to me08:47
godlessh3sp4wn:  ..? How so?08:48
godlessAlthough I never bothered with all those cp's and mv's after the make.. don't actually know what that's for :/08:49
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h3sp4wngodless: http://madwifi.org/ticket/914 (all that stuff affects me - on the device I want to be using madwifi on )08:52
h3sp4wnthe newer hal is ok though08:52
mydrachola // hello08:52
mydracque tal es el programa k3b? // is good k3b?08:53
godlessk3b is kde's burning program? If you are using xubuntu you already have 'xfburn'08:54
mydracbut it is not the same08:55
mydracI meaning08:56
godlessmydrac:  I don't know for sure, but k3b will probably require a number of kde libraries to run under xfce. It will require far more resources than it should. If this doesn't bother you use k3b. Otherwise use xfburn or another gtk burning program.08:57
mydracand work fine08:58
mydracdo the same things or are very diferent08:58
mydracbecouse, Amarok work great in xubuntu i can do everything without problems, and is a program for other desktop09:02
mydracother example is mplayer wokrs good to09:03
mydracyou godless can do things like burn vcd, and cd audio? with xfburn?09:05
mydraci will look more about xfburn.  thanks09:08
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mydracwell i think that xfburn dont burn vcd. and this is very important for me09:14
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okazujesiezeniegodless: will i be able to compile madwifi without internet connection?09:37
okazujesiezenieI mean i dont have some libs09:38
Myrtticompile madwifi?09:39
Myrttioh09:39
okazujesiezeniei remember that i needed some gc+ libs and stuff like this09:39
h3sp4wnkernel headers - sharutils (for uudecode)09:40
h3sp4wngcc, make09:40
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xubuntu-upgradecan someone help me upgrade my xubuntu please?10:24
xubuntu-upgradei tried the website, but it doesn't explain how to install without a cd drive10:25
xubuntu-upgradei have xubuntu 6.06 on the computer currently10:25
Myrttigksudo "update-manager -c" ?10:26
xubuntu-upgradei am not familiar with the gksudo command10:26
xubuntu-upgradejust type that in with sudo before it?10:26
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Myrttigksudo is the graphical sudo10:27
xubuntu-upgradeinteresting, i usually do everything command-line10:27
Myrttiyou shouldn't run graphical apps with sudo but gksudo (in xfce4 and gnome)10:27
xubuntu-upgradei don't run many at all10:28
Myrttikdesu in kde10:28
xubuntu-upgradeok, it pulled up the Software Updates dialog box10:28
xubuntu-upgradeits downloading / updating10:28
xubuntu-upgradeawesome, it says New distribution release 6.10 is available10:28
Myrttiupdate with that to edgy, then you can do it again and update to feisty10:29
hyper_chwhy upgrading to 6.10?10:29
Myrttiupdatemanager does it in steps10:29
hyper_cha clean install with feisty would be faster10:29
Myrttiit's a bit safer10:29
Myrttihyper_ch: well if there isn't a cd drive10:29
Myrttithis is the _easiest_ way10:30
hyper_chcd drive is not needed10:30
hyper_ch!install | Myrtti10:30
ubotuMyrtti: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate10:30
Myrttihyper_ch: thanks, I'm not installing atm10:30
xubuntu-upgradeawesome, think that worked10:30
xubuntu-upgradei'll have to do it when i save everything, there no need to backup right, it will remount the same partitions without formatting?10:30
hyper_chthere will be some left-overs from the upgrades :) that's why I prefer a clean install10:30
xubuntu-upgradei have had no luck with the CDs10:31
xubuntu-upgrademy hardware is just too old10:31
Myrttixubuntu-upgrade: do backups10:31
Myrttibackups are always a good idea10:31
hyper_chalways do backups10:31
xubuntu-upgradeok10:31
xubuntu-upgradewill it have the same wireless drivers as 6.06 had?10:32
hyper_chdid it work in 6.06 out of the box?10:32
MyrttiI'm off to bed. I'm sober on mayday eve, it's about 1130pm and IRC is quite quiet10:32
Myrttiso tah-dah.10:32
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hyper_chcya10:33
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domenici checked out this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats11:11
domenici couldnt do the altest version of the installation11:11
Jester45do you need help with them?11:11
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domenicbut i did 6.06 version of installation11:12
domenicyes, if you wouldnt mind11:12
Jester45what version do you have11:12
domenic:)11:12
domenichow would i find that out?11:13
Jester4560.0 6.10 7.0411:13
domenicit would be the altest binary of xubuntu11:13
Jester45err 6.0611:13
Jester45the latest?11:13
domenichow would i find out?11:14
Jester45go to the menu then click about xfce11:14
Jester45what version does it say11:15
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godlessokazujesiezenie:  Sorry I dissapeared. Obviously installing the packages / acquring madwifi is going to be more of a pain without internet access. You cannot connect a cable temporarily?11:19
okazujesiezenieUnfortuneatly no11:19
okazujesiezenieBut It seems that i won't get over it11:20
godless?11:20
godless'won't get over it'?11:20
okazujesiezeniesorry11:20
okazujesiezenieenglish is not my native language11:20
TheSheepokazujesiezenie: nie przejmuj sie :)11:20
godlessNo problem...11:20
okazujesiezenieTheSheep: O! i co sie nie odzywasz :] 11:21
TheSheep!pl11:21
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:21
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godlessIf you have a networked computer with a cdburner or the like I'm sure you can install the packages that way although I cannot walk you through that (have always used the network)11:21
TheSheepokazujesiezenie: just came back11:21
domenic411:22
TheSheepokazujesiezenie: you can download the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com and then copy them using cd/pendrive/diskette11:22
domenicit says xfce 411:22
okazujesiezeniegodless: I noticed that there is more people with the same problem. They all had to downgrade ubuntu11:22
okazujesiezenieBut i will try using madwifi, or ndiswrapper11:23
TheSheepdomenic: try looking into /etc/issue11:23
Gerrogodless: walk you through what?11:23
Jester45domenic: then you have 7.04 try that section11:24
godlessokazujesiezenie:  I'm only speaking from my own experience. Upgrading to 7.04 broke my wifi, but the config files were all still intact... so I made madwifi again and everything is working again11:25
godlessGerro:  Sorry, that was for okazujesiezenie who is trying to get his wifi working. Obviously he can't download packages with no network access :)11:26
Gerrono network access yet he is on irc...11:28
godlessI would guess not from the same machine.11:29
Jester45could i ram disk my whole install?11:30
Jester45that would be fun11:30
TheSheepJester45: live cds do...11:32
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Jester45but they access files from the cd11:33
Jester45like DSL but with my xubuntu11:33
TheSheepJester45: well, there is OpenEmbedded that lets you create a working Linux install with X and all the basic apps in less than 20 megs...11:34
TheSheepJester45: xubuntu is about one gig, I think...11:35
domenic"Click Applications  Add/Remove"11:41
domenic?11:41
domenichow do i reach the ADD Remove utility11:48
domenicalso i cant find the SEARCH utility.. i would search for it but... well, you know11:48
TheSheepdomenic: use synaptic instead11:50
TheSheepdomenic: it's in the same menu, in includes searching11:50
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Jester46oops11:54
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ciro314hello. i have 2 laptops wifi connected to a router and i would like to share folders. i have added the folders i wish and allowed ip on applications >> system >> share folders. what should i do now to read/write on the shared folders?11:55
ciro3142 laptops have xubuntu installed11:55
okazujesiezenieok i am gonna check out everything on xubuntu11:56
domenicThe Sheep: which menu?11:57
domenici've done settings>resporatories and checkmarked all the boxxes11:58
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BFTDwow12:02
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BFTDquiet12:03
domenicis there a search utility in xubunu?12:03
TheSheepdomenic: not by default, you need to install one12:03
TheSheepdomenic: the catfish, for example12:03
ToHellWithGAis there a system monitor that can show a process tree in xfce?12:08
Mezwhos the xubuntu lead dev?12:09
TheSheepToHellWithGA: no, you can try 'ps' with 'f' option from terminal12:09
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ToHellWithGAcheers12:10
TheSheepMez: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/12:11
Mezhighvoltage, ping :D12:14
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xprimarysuspectxhello12:16
xprimarysuspectxanyone wanna help me with grub loader in 7.04 ?12:16
TheSheep!ask | xprimarysuspectx12:16
ubotuxprimarysuspectx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:16
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xprimarysuspectxerr..i didnt really ask to ask. i merely introduced myself with a subject for the question :D12:17
BFTDTheSheep thats a restircted team12:17
BFTD:P12:17
okazujesiezenieOne more time, what is the page, where i can find libs?12:17
xprimarysuspectxanyway, i installed ubuntu 7.04 on a separate partition, i had xp installed originally.12:17
xprimarysuspectxnow grub menu doesnt mention the xp install at all12:17
TheSheepokazujesiezenie: you can get all packages from ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com12:18
TheSheepxprimarysuspectx: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file12:18
okazujesiezeniethank you12:18
xprimarysuspectxso in short,  i need to just edit the grub menu to point to the xp install, if it is that easy12:18
xprimarysuspectxer. i typed that before you answered lol. sorry12:19
TheSheepxprimarysuspectx: and add these lines to it:12:19
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Jester46anyone here listen to rap? im looking for a few good songs12:20
Jester46ezpanding my playlist12:20
TheSheepxprimarysuspectx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18488/12:20
TheSheepJester46: songs or rap? :P12:20
hyper_chJester46: what about French Rap?12:21
xprimarysuspectxthank you the sheep. my windows install is actually hda5 though, so i dont leave hd0, 0 right?12:23
TheSheepxprimarysuspectx: that'd be hd0, 4 then12:24
TheSheep(grub counts starting from 0)12:24
sulleTheSheep: Warlocks <- good old norwegian rap. "english songs".12:24
sulleCity Soldier is a good song12:24
xprimarysuspectxi was going to ask why the hell 5 was 4. thanks12:24
TheSheepsulle: I hate rap ;)12:24
sulleohh, it was Jester46 :P12:24
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sulleso whats up in the xubuntu community12:26
sulle?12:26

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