[12:32] archangelpetro, webkit rocks ;) http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sokokech9.png [12:32] i understand that my mastery of unix is not yet established.. but surely if you 'cp -r *.class /to/path/here/' [12:33] then surely it's supposed to copy all the class files from that directory and all subdirectories? [12:33] archangelpetro, Yes, it should :) [12:33] so why doesnt it? [12:34] What does it do instead? [12:34] archangelpetro: "cp -r ./*.class /destination/path/" [12:35] archangelpetro: i think that might be what you want [12:35] errr .. might do* [12:35] kalikiana: is that your browser? [12:35] maxamillion, it doesnt work. [12:36] archangelpetro: :( [12:36] archangelpetro: i dunno then [12:36] i dont understand why? [12:36] archangelpetro: me either [12:36] There are hundreds of damn class files :/ [12:36] archangelpetro: use Thunar and just highlight them :) [12:37] theyre all in different directories though :/ there's over like 149 [12:37] i cba going into them all [12:37] hmm... [12:37] http://rafb.net/p/0ApvRJ43.html [12:38] archangelpetro: jeebus [12:38] ? [12:40] there's about a total of 1500 classes [12:41] btw kalikiana it's sweet [12:41] archangelpetro: what could possibly need that many class files? [12:41] Evolutionary algorithms [12:42] theyre all automatically generated [12:42] i need to summarise the data for my work now.. but i need them all in one flat file... [12:44] any suggestions? [12:47] wow .... uhmmm.... you could probably write a python script that would recursively go through the files and move them to a separate location [12:47] errr... directories* [12:47] oh but it's hassle, i dont know python that well [12:48] oh ... hmm... [12:48] i have to finish writing my diss by tues at the latest, i cant really afford to write a program that'll go thru it all :/ [12:48] archangelpetro: yeah, i have to finish my compiler by wednesday (and its not looking good) or else i would write a python script for you [12:52] i;m outta here ... === Gerro [n=user@c-76-106-67-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #xubuntu [".:porc::inca::dito::love:."] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-137-187.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:06] I noticed all my menu items in /usr/share/applications have comments[] and genericnames[] in many many languages, can that be stripped out somehow, do I have some sort of un-needed language support installed? === neozen [n=neozen@c-67-186-66-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === pleia2 [n=lyz@clockbot.net] has joined #xubuntu === Cinnander [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-87.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === knicknic [n=n@c-71-231-178-71.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] I am trying to do a alternate cd install method form a cd I put to disk (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux) but am havinging a hard time convincing the text install to mount the "cd" [02:01] it has Detect&mount cdrom item, but it doesnt want to do it [02:01] I was wondering if I could just mount it to the correct directory myself === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-173-139.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Gerro [n=user@c-76-106-67-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === ` [n=tang@60.191.45.226] has joined #xubuntu === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] anyone here? === Jester45 [n=ryan@d42-245.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] well today and yesterday was my first real venture into debian and it wasnt good at all [02:54] at first i did all defualts and it gave me a bloated gnome [02:55] or i reinstalled with just standard system option, and i couldnt get X to reconize my card as having 2 pci bus === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:55] Does anyone know how to make murrine-configurator work? [02:55] so then i tried standard and then removing gnome and that killed my X [02:56] I go to the command line and enter "locate murrine", and it won't even bring up the file. [02:56] It's really weird. [02:57] spasticteapot, try locate murrine* .. for the heck of it [02:58] Nothing. [02:58] :/ === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@pool-71-241-4-235.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] Yeah, I dunno. [03:00] I downloaded the .deb, and it won't do a bloody thing. [03:01] Honestly, I wish that Ubuntu would abandon .deb. 90% of Debian packages won't work anyway. [03:01] Heck, they could just re-name .deb as .ubu, and at least we could tell the difference. [03:01] or.. ub.deb [03:01] .ub.deb [03:01] that way its still a deb but ment for ubuntu [03:02] Good either way. [03:02] becuase you can still use debs but ub debs would be besty [03:02] Jester45: Moot point. Someone else is going to decide that. [03:02] I just want Murrine already! [03:03] anyone know how to draw a straight line in the gimp? [03:04] I wish I did, actually. [03:04] spasticteapot, have you checked the Murrina web site ? [03:04] it has fancy drawing options but nothing simple [03:04] I downloaded Murrine from the repository! [03:06] ccan someone help, I install from alternate cd and get errror codename not fonud [03:08] All I see on the web site is .. After the installation the program can be found under System -> Preferences -> Murrine Configurator [03:10] is it found? === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@F733f.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === linux_kid [n=kevin@adsl-76-205-93-25.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:16] What is the size of a minimum xubuntu install? [03:16] with graphical interface? A gig. [03:17] give or take - that's several months old [03:18] linux_kid: but then you have to consider swap space [03:18] Gerro, right, crimsun thanks [03:19] would it run nice on a flashdrive in qemu [03:19] linux_kid: hell no qemu sucks even with kqemu fix [03:20] Gerro, then what could i use on a flashdrive w/o installation ? [03:20] linux_kid: I usually use damnsmall on qemu though since its tiny enough to fit completely in ram [03:20] Gerro, what wm does dsl use [03:21] fluxbox [03:21] fluxbox [03:21] you could customize though it also has this other one [03:22] Jester45: hey yesterday you were talking about your server and was wondering you know where I can download a minimal debian 2.4 kernel server OS? [03:22] nope [03:23] y [03:23] opps [03:23] well my one computer is kind of old and wanted to use it for that but 2.6 kernel doesn't support anything it has [03:23] plus I heard 2.4 is more secure [03:23] you can get drapper or i think debian sarge is still 2.4 [03:24] drapper uses 2.4? [03:24] yea [03:24] sweeet! [03:24] but wait that has a gui [03:24] it did idk if its updated now [03:24] no [03:24] get the alternative cd [03:24] ah ok [03:24] thx [03:24] you can choose diffrent installs [03:25] hmm I was thinking about using apache but maybe something more less intensive for a webserver [03:25] lighttpd [03:25] hello crimsun [03:27] i myself do not like debian it might be good for a cli only server but i think it is like MS, with ice weasle and ice everything mozilla has [03:27] yeah what's the deal with all that? [03:27] Debian has much more stringent requirements about Free software. [03:27] copying thing and just change the name and MAYBE a bit of the skin [03:28] yeah they called it mozilla from beginning right? [03:28] how did it ever get called mozilla firefox and not just firefox? [03:28] Ubuntu attempts to balance Freedom and ease of use. [03:28] who the hell are mozilla!? [03:28] mozilla is a internet suite [03:29] crimsun: yet it still can't leave the damn win32 codecs in repositories *sighs* [03:29] Gerro: medibuntu does IIRC [03:29] in any case, it should be moot with the new CNR deal [03:30] I reserve my opinion on that despite my core-dev involvement. [03:30] and they call its mozilla firefox because it has the same base or it was a branch of the mozilla browser (maybe?) [03:30] what is medibuntu? === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:30] Jester45: what is difference between firefox and mozilla? [03:30] poor gerro you have lots to learn [03:31] I never quite noticed a different [03:31] they are diffrent browsers, firefox is lighter [03:31] is mozilla dead now? [03:31] I'd hate to see how heavy mozilla is *cringes* [03:31] mozilla the company? Hardly. Mozilla firefox the web browser? Hardly. [03:31] no, but i read somewhere that firefox might replace mozilla's browser soon [03:32] oh that reminds me [03:32] anyone know of an adobe flash alternative for 64 bit processors that plays flash movies? [03:32] !flash [03:32] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [03:32] Gerro: gnash plays certain ones. [03:32] at least the latest version is successful with youtube. [03:32] well gnash was working at first not as good quality but working then it just died on me [03:33] it hasn't worked since [03:33] what is the latest version? [03:33] !Gnash [03:33] An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ [03:34] yeah but do you mean like cvs one? [03:34] 0.7.2+cvs20070428.1515-1 [03:34] [http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnash.html ] [03:35] whats reisner fs good for [03:35] that is the one I'm using [03:35] I even tried compiling it [03:36] i got my /home as ext3 and / as reiser [03:36] you partitioned it like that and don't know? [03:36] i thoguht it was good for small files [03:36] yep [03:36] im not worrie about it to much [03:37] i was going to do fat16 :) [03:37] just for kicks [03:37] ok well good luck trying to find a live cd with reiser support when something goes wrong [03:37] i dont care [03:37] fat16 is limited to a certain size [03:38] waste of some space [03:38] crimsun: do you know when xubuntu might get desktop effects like gnome [03:38] many fat16s [03:38] hopefully never lol [03:38] one for each section /etc /var and so on [03:38] why not [03:38] i liked it [03:39] it was faster than beryl [03:39] then why not just use regular ubuntu? [03:39] Jester45: honesty, no idea. [03:40] do you thin it ever will becuase right now its needs lots of gnome stuff [03:40] maybe in 2 more releases [03:40] why don't you make your own mod pack then for xubuntu [03:40] could call it "lootthegnome" [03:40] I'm sure everyone would get a kick out of that [03:41] next on gnome mgiht get it out of testing and then the one after xubuntu can get it testingg [03:41] g [03:41] is it bad when on each release you test all the *buntu s === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.32] has joined #xubuntu === ToHellWithGA [n=ryan@d4-219.rb2.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:42] Jester45: if I wasn't using a laptop I would probably do the same [03:42] do you use a mouse on the laptop [03:42] touchpad but I do have a usb mouse [03:43] most the ones they sell now are portable ones but they sooo damn small [03:43] i trashed a lappy because it had no usb and the mouse port broke, i hate the touch pad [03:44] now a touch screen would be diffrent [03:44] that laptop is so manky :( [03:44] it wouldn't boot into xfce on the 2nd boot [03:44] or later, for that matter [03:45] i would get a on screen keyboard and keep the computer in the next room [03:45] be so cool [03:46] and fast [03:47] Jester45: why not install a cli on the lappy [03:47] or you could set it to use the arrow keys for mouse [03:47] wasd mouse would be awesome === darrend_ [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:51] still not a mouse [03:51] and would be hard to do things [03:52] I wish I could change it so on task bar when I do close it means kill process [03:52] I mean who ever tries to close something minimized if its not acting up!? [03:52] and i use cli for things that take a long time not for fun typing === dmh [n=ubuntu@host-69-145-238-107.lar-wy.client.bresnan.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:53] Does anyone know how to work around the partition manager in xubuntu fiesty automatically REMOUNTING WHILE TRYING TO INSTALL? [03:53] ARGH! [03:53] dmh: yeah do a manual install and specify a / partition [03:53] err, I think colin filed a bug against thunar for that. [03:53] I've nuked the partition manually with gnome partition manager and it works w/o error [03:53] yet [03:53] colin watson being the ubiquity devel [03:53] YET, it doesnt actually do anything [03:54] dmh you have to tell it which is / when you edit a partition manually [03:54] Gerro: I've tried that several times [03:54] then your shit out of luck [03:54] rofl [03:54] It shows up as 'unformatted' and I create a new partition [03:54] and it formats without error [03:54] the when I run install, it magically mounts the drive again, and all of the old data from a NTFS partition is still there.. so it didnt actually format a thing [03:54] hmm maybe try fdisk and enter in what you told fdisk [03:55] windows fdisk is so cool [03:55] im on livecd, sec [03:55] i'll try fdisking the bitch [03:55] !language [03:55] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [03:55] oh :O [03:55] excuse jester he only speak spanish [03:55] Como Esta? [03:55] como estas el Jester taco taco? [03:56] Mew Bewno taco taco Gerro [03:56] ok I'm going to delete the partitions w/ d [03:56] and write, and watch it not take to [03:56] mucho linux si! los pengueno [03:56] simply amazing [03:56] WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy. [03:57] The kernel still uses the old table. [03:57] PENGUENO PENGUENO!! [03:57] is the shed of light [03:57] let me try umounting it one more time.. [03:57] hmm maybe fdisk then restart the livecd [03:58] yea I'll try that [03:58] brb. === Jester45 has instantly learn english and can still speak spanish that makes no sense [03:58] crimsun: think i could become the official watch you language person [03:58] just like having a dozen fat16 partitions [03:59] how big can they be 2g? === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [04:00] if 2Gb max i would need 150 partitions, hehe make a new fs that makes a partition for each folder [04:01] !xfmedia [04:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about xfmedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:02] !info xfmedia [04:02] xfmedia: Xfce media player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1428 kB [04:02] anyone know what the backend for it is [04:02] libxine. [04:02] thanks [04:02] i like xfmedia for music [04:03] but without mp3s its no good [04:05] is libxine1-ffmpeg installed? [04:05] is that the mp3 playback one [04:06] it'll pull in libmad0 [04:06] !info libmad0 [04:06] libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB [04:06] (there.) [04:07] libxine1-ffmpeg worked i would of got it [04:08] i only installed like 4 diffrent distros this weekend [04:08] "only", eh? :) [04:08] and got them set up how i liked then installed new one [04:08] but... i came crawling back to xubuntu [04:08] sabayon came close [04:13] where are icons stored at [04:13] the gaim one === ozzyparrot [n=darren@c211-30-82-197.blktn4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] hello [04:21] hello [04:21] whats the best MP3 player in Xubuntu ? [04:21] depends on what you want [04:21] to play mp3 [04:21] :-P [04:22] from cd rom [04:22] when i inserted a cd it didnt pic up the wav or mp3 [04:22] so i can inly play the .ogg [04:23] you can try, gxine, mplayer, xmms, amarok, mpd [04:23] i would suggest mplayer [04:23] amarok wouldnt play it [04:23] you have to install the backend === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:24] whats the backend called? [04:24] try installing libxine1-ffmpeg [04:24] im not sure if that is what it uses [04:24] gxine uses libxine1-ffmpeg === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-71-241-4-235.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:26] Anyone else here tried the "Feisty Speed Tweaks?" [04:26] My computer runs FAAAST! [04:27] http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/ [04:28] i will look [04:28] pump out a few more ms of reponse time [04:28] Heh. [04:28] Try a half-second to a second, easy. [04:28] It's like moving from Gnome to XFCE. [04:29] Except it's from XFCE to XFCE on nitrous. [04:30] well i dont think this machine can speed up a sec more [04:30] What's your hardware? [04:30] might get into the negative :) [04:30] I have a Pentium M currently running at 600mhz. [04:30] each time you press a button you gain 20ns [04:30] Single-core. [04:30] Old-school. [04:32] 2x amd opteron 2.8 each [04:32] Oh. [04:32] Overclocked? [04:32] nope [04:32] Gadzooks. [04:32] at least not to my knowledge [04:33] Dualie 940's, eh? [04:35] Heh. [04:35] heh [04:35] My new gaming rig has an A64 3000+, Nvidia 6800, and 1GB of Kingston HyperX PC3500. [04:35] Whole thing cost me around $200. [04:36] not bad [04:36] Maybe $140 if you consider I spent $40 of store credit on the mobo and used some spare parts. === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:37] lol === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [04:37] Next year, I'll spend another $200 and have a machine faster than yours. [04:37] Moore's Law is a bitch. === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:37] Though, I suppose, you've had that nifty machine for at least a year, maybe a year and a half. [04:37] i exchange dvd drives with cd drives then return the computer to the store [04:38] walmart, best store ever [04:38] Jester45: I was about to say something...but Mall-Wart sucks dookie. [04:38] no way === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:38] they dont know anything [04:38] someone help [04:38] xfce is busted [04:38] :( [04:38] McBeardy: You too? [04:39] oh no, is it an epidemic? [04:39] Lemme guess - you had Feisty Beta, updated it to release, and XFCE asploded? [04:39] you could buy a plasma tv and return a old black and white and they would give you your money back [04:39] Jester45: Cripes. They ARE dumb. [04:39] no, i have edgy [04:39] McBeardy: Oh. === Doctordoog [n=doog@cpe-075-183-002-001.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:39] What's the issue? [04:39] and now none of the windows have bars over them [04:39] Huh. [04:39] like the bar you click to move or minimize [04:39] Sounds like your window manager asploded. [04:39] like boom or BOOM or just a fizzel [04:39] wait, what did you do again? [04:39] and the panel at the bottom shows no programs in it [04:39] and doesnt do anything [04:40] huh, do you have a terminal open [04:40] or can you open one [04:40] hmm, lemme see [04:40] McBeardy: press alt + f2 then type xfwm4 then click run [04:40] McBeardy: Upon starting up, press ctrl-alt-F1. This will give you a plain BASH screen. [04:41] McBeardy: Sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get uninstall (XFCE stuff), sudo apt-get install (XFCE stuff). [04:41] hmm [04:41] wlel [04:41] That's sort of a brute force approach, of course. [04:41] the xfwm4 seemed to help [04:41] now i have the programs at the bottom [04:41] McBeardy: Jester45's solution is probbably better. [04:41] hehe im god, and you know it [04:41] i wonder if it will start in the future === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:42] McBeardy: Restart, then come back if it won't work. [04:42] his fast [04:42] Alt-F2 is the shortcut to running programs. [04:42] yes, i remembered alt f2 [04:42] yes... [04:42] didnt know xfwm4 though [04:42] thanks a bunch! [04:42] np [04:42] your welcome [04:42] i will log out / in [04:42] no [04:42] darn === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] he should of held in the power button or removed the power cord [04:43] much much funner [04:43] hmm [04:43] or more fun [04:43] didnt start up default [04:43] weird === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] looks like its been removed from somthing [04:44] idk what it is maybe gdm or xsession [04:44] i recently installed iceWM === _Codeman_ [n=codeman@ip70-185-225-238.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] maybe something happened with that [04:44] heh, maybe [04:44] yep [04:44] it depends on GDM [04:44] click the sessions button and make sure that you're booting into XFCE [04:45] o yea doctor, i did do that i was just saying that you probly could [04:45] <_Codeman_> Why do I keep getting this?: tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory [04:45] is there such a file or directory? [04:45] hehe [04:45] _Codeman_, Because you're seperating the letters after the TAR? [04:45] As in "tar xvzj" [04:46] It's not "tar x v z j" [04:46] smart one [04:46] i woudlnt of tought of that [04:46] I read the O'Riley Guide to Linux...1996 edition. [04:46] <_Codeman_> # tar -xfz /home/codeman/FreeBASIC.tar.gz [04:46] yep, its the correct session [04:46] I know the simple-tastic oldschool stuff. [04:47] _Codeman_, I don't think you need the dash. I never use one. [04:47] what would you say is the safe way to slice a new partition off of my linux partition, without having to reinstall linux and whatnot [04:47] i dont think you do [04:48] <_Codeman_> spasticteapot: Now it's talking about skipping header :/ [04:48] sudo rm -r * :) [04:48] :P [04:48] dont run it [04:48] I won't [04:48] dont run anything with :) on it [04:48] or anything i tell you to [04:48] good rules to follow [04:48] don't listen to the fool [04:48] if you stick to above you should be fine [04:49] you mean cool, right [04:49] I mean fool, o' jester [04:49] look at my name, <---- that direction [04:49] what with it being your handle here [04:49] i jsut play in here most of the time [04:50] sounds like a plan :P [04:50]