=== vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] hmm i can get 10 ubuntu cd's through shipit but only 3 kubuntu.. === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #kubuntu-devel [".:porc::inca::dito::love:."] === tmske [n=thomas@dD577C7D2.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:27] well, our LoCo ir crying for more cd's all the time [12:28] just don't get enough of them [12:28] we have plans to spread ubuntu-love in our parliament, but that means 200 ubuntu cd's -> gone [12:30] fortunately mako is around here so our LoCo can get some cd's [12:38] =) === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-204-81.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] is it a known thing that Kubuntu Gutsy stuff FTBFS? [02:03] I just had my KTorrent upload slapped back at me [02:03] kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.5.6-4ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [02:03] I'm guessing it's known :) [02:09] jdong: it could very well be that kernel/dash issue maybe? I had issues trying to build the xgalaga merge yesterday and today it works after doing an update [02:10] either way, it doesn't look like it's something that's my fault :D [02:10] lol [02:14] http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8661763902.html hmm === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.86] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@116.21.103.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dyn-129-64-200-35.wireless-bg.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N854P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Grape_Juice [n=pants@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:34] you know, I received the Feisty shipits for the loco today, they gave us 200 Ubuntu x86, and only a handful of everything else out of a total of 300 discs [06:34] and the Ubuntu 64bit ones don't allow you to shutdown === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-218.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AED233.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073128.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073128.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [n=Pascal@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-172-58-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@212.3.114.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrWGW- [n=opera@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@212.3.114.130] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [i=sfs@nat/ibm/x-aa27535271c47595] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] <_StefanS_> morning [10:04] hi _StefanS_ [10:04] <_StefanS_> Hey pointyStick [10:04] _StefanS_: found the bug in the logout dialogue, btw [10:04] <_StefanS_> well it seems there was alot of bugs ... :) [10:04] <_StefanS_> hit me.. [10:05] the "only has logout, no shutdown/restart/etc' [10:06] <_StefanS_> Well you wouldn't be using gdm as loginmanager ? [10:06] i wasnt, no [10:06] someone else was === Jucato waves [10:06] <_StefanS_> yep I know about that one.. [10:06] anyway, i think mithrandir uploaded a new version to gutsy, and a -updates thing was being thought about === Jucato also wonders why we didn't celebrate/announce Kubuntu's 2nd birthday [10:07] Jucato: good questoin [10:07] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: uhm new version of the logout, or ? [10:07] and like most good questions... there are no answers. :D [10:07] _StefanS_: yes. think so. [10:07] with the 1 line fix [10:07] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: oka, was it the setAccel thing ? [10:08] morning [10:08] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: hotkey in translations I mean [10:08] nope [10:08] was a changed path to gdm [10:08] <_StefanS_> ah :) [10:08] <_StefanS_> so that thing is fixed now I guess [10:09] <_StefanS_> I havent really had the time, since wife and my kid has been sick the past two weeks [10:09] <_StefanS_> tough to find time [10:09] aw :( [10:09] yeah [10:09] that's fine - and we've been in freeze, too [10:10] <_StefanS_> but I was planning to take out some hours during the week to look at the hotkey thing for the buttons; I talked to Sebastian Trg last night about the issues I had [10:10] <_StefanS_> Think I know where to go with it.. someone noticed that the hotkeys were fixed regardless of the language [10:10] <_StefanS_> (bad thing :) [10:11] <_StefanS_> Jucato: hey I just ordered one of them GP2X consoles, should be coming in today, so maybe it will run kubuntu also :) [10:11] ooooh ;) [10:12] <_StefanS_> only 150 pounds [10:12] <_StefanS_> GBP [10:12] hm.. how much does that translate to USD? :D === Jucato will have to convert GBP -> USD -> Php [10:13] <_StefanS_> hehe === Lure [n=lure@89-172-58-81.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@78-0-69-126.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:51] ajmitch: another misguided sole.... [10:51] and more time to go and ignore that bug :) === Jucato wonders how a sole of a foot can be misguided :) [10:52] yeah, well [10:52] whatever it is [10:52] most people probably don't see the difference between main & universe [10:52] most people dont understand the concept of a LTS [10:53] both are true :/ [10:53] that it's not "let's fix bugs, but not have the possibility of breakage associated with that" [10:53] no, in this case, the app is broken [10:53] it don't work [10:54] on anything, or on that section? === ajmitch shrugs [10:55] i was under the impression it was only for opening that type of file [10:56] btw, kubuntu.org is down? [10:56] Jucato: seems so [10:56] Hobbsee: possibly, I don't use kvpnc :) [10:56] me neither - but i'm the person who looks at it in ubuntu, mostly [10:57] kubuntu.org is possibly the most unstable site i'm aware of. [10:57] another one who beleives in the "there are infinite developers" myth === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [n=Pascal@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-23-144.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD577C7D2.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD577C7D2.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:57] Riddell or imbrandon if you have time could you take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4973 [12:57] ? === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger [12:58] marseillai: you've lost the .orig file [12:58] mmmmmmmmm [12:58] marseillai: probably with the new version number, just rename the .orig.tar.gz accordingly [12:58] arf [12:58] and rerun debuild -S -sa [12:58] oki [01:03] uploaded Riddell http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4979 === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] marseillai: advocated http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4979 [01:51] thanks a lot Riddell ! :) [01:53] Riddell: did you test build? [01:53] yes [01:53] cool === Hobbsee ack's [01:53] Riddell: can you upload, if you've already got it downloaded then? [01:54] Hobbsee: it needs another advocate [01:54] Riddell: see [21:53] * Hobbsee ack's === larsivi|Zzz is now known as larsivi [01:55] well, that's the intention to ack. actually logging into REVU is taking longer. [01:55] Riddell: done [01:55] ok, uploading [01:55] great === Hobbsee archives [01:56] marseillai: it's up === apachelogger detects adovcate mood and throws http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4769 through the channel since it's already far too long in revu ^^ [01:56] marseillai: now you just have to hold your breath and wait for it to be approved for source NEW then again for binary NEW [01:56] Riddell: i've nothing more to do? just wait ? [01:57] marseillai: and watch it to see if it has compiled successfully, then test it again once its in the archive [01:57] oki [01:58] where can i see those things ? === Hobbsee waits for apachelogger to come back [01:59] marseillai: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ [01:59] oki === apachelogger [n=me@N954P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] marseillai: it should appear in new queue here soon https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [02:00] thanks [02:00] apachelogger: s/feisty/gutsy/ and it looks fine === Hobbsee hastn test built, though === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4454c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger just hopes it still builds ^^ [02:04] apachelogger: advocated. 1 other issue, but I'm happy to remove that myself [02:04] should I upload? [02:04] just uploaded gutsy changelog [02:05] Riddell: but yeah, go ahead :) [02:05] Riddell: what was the other issue? [02:05] W: kopete-desklist source: source-contains-CVS-dir admin/CVS [02:05] ah right. i got that, bug was going to ignore it === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] best to poke upstream about that sort of thing [02:07] Hobbsee: please archive === Riddell out [02:07] bah, I got way too many packages in revu [02:07] Riddell: will do. [02:07] totally lost organisation :| [02:07] apachelogger: yeah...it's shocking [02:08] archived [02:08] thx === marseillai is a little bit proud! :) his two first package are in queue! :D === apachelogger is wondering whether Hobbsee is still in advocate mood ;-) [02:08] marseillai: arrr, congrats :) [02:08] apachelogger: depends. [02:08] apachelogger: only a point if there are 2 kde motu's around [02:09] apachelogger: what were you wanting? [02:09] Hobbsee: just search the revu mainpage for 'sitter' ;-) [02:09] ah yes, i see [02:10] apachelogger: for filelight, why dont you ask Maintainer: James Troup about NMU'ing the debian one, and syncing it? [02:10] and merging any changes into debian? [02:10] NMU? [02:11] non-maintainer upload === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm21.epsilon48.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] aye === apachelogger adds to todo [02:12] apachelogger: he's elmo on irc, one of the canonical sysadmins, iirc. [02:22] Hobbsee: to get you right: upload the package to debian, sync it with ubuntu, and then merge any changes - right? [02:22] apachelogger: well, depends what the ubuntu changes are [02:22] apachelogger: if they're suitable to debian, push them to debian when you do the NMU. then sync the debian package to ubuntu [02:23] well, I suppose they are suitable [02:23] new upstream release, new standards, package split into filelight and -i18n, mainpage added and rules file is now using cdbs [02:24] see what elmo says about it. [02:24] apachelogger: no point in keeping the split, if it's needless [02:24] well, upstream made the split [02:25] sorry, the split between ubuntu and debian [02:25] ah, yeah [02:27] mornin'! [02:27] ahoy nixternal [02:27] hiya apachelogger [02:28] hi nixternal! [02:29] hiya Hobbsee [02:30] :) === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee will be on a plane in <48 hours... [02:30] I will be sleepin' then ;) [02:32] heh [02:32] so will i, most likely :P === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa is away: Away at the moment [02:41] question : manslide need imagemagick 6.3.2.9 wich is not yet in debian or ubuntu! currently some person seems to take care of it in debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=420672 what should i do? wait for a merge ? upload my package to revu? [02:42] Debian bug 420672 in imagemagick "imagemagick: Patch for NMU of 7:6.3.3.9.dfsg1-0.1" [Normal,Open] [02:42] !away | meduxa [02:42] meduxa: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'. We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines [02:45] !guidelines [02:45] The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/docs/kubuntu/7.10/ [03:17] now, will Dell sell Kubuntu on a laptop? as soon as they do, I buy a Dell (Dude, you'are getting a Dell) === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:23] hi nixternal =) [03:23] hiya giangy [03:23] nixternal: docs already? what's new in them? [03:23] nixternal: where did you hear about that? [03:23] Riddell: all over the intertubes :) [03:24] Riddell: nothing new in the docs except for the "Under the hood" changes with the Kernel, release # and name [03:24] Riddell: havent you heard about the censoring today? [03:24] just the doc primer for 7.10 [03:25] hm [03:25] when a package doesn't get listed in adept install when filtering for KDE, is it a package or an adept issue? [03:25] apachelogger: debtags [03:25] thx [03:26] Riddell, nixternal: is kubuntu.org website available via SVN? [03:26] bzr [03:27] but you have to have a credit card filled with money first [03:27] gh [03:27] giangy: https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/ [03:27] ok, thanks [03:30] nixternal: I get a lot of "E: kubuntu-docs: doc-base-file-references-missing-file kubuntu-systemdocs:25 \ [03:31] from that package [03:31] any ideas what causes that? === pascalFR [n=Pascal@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] I am wondering if that is due to Gutsy not being complete [03:35] it built fine here [03:38] the only thing I get is this: [03:38] file:///usr/share/xml/docbook/schema/dtd/4.3/docbookx.dtd:161: warning: failed to load external entity [03:40] the package that built here works [03:41] Riddell: let me tweak this package and fix a couple of things and we will try it again later [03:50] a question : does this apps ca be include in kubuntu : http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/show.php?content=51831 or there is a legacy problem ? [03:51] it is in Kubuntu (feisty) [03:51] sudo apt-get install pdfedit [03:51] !info pdfedit [03:51] Package pdfedit does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [03:51] orly [03:51] pouarf nixternal .... :) sorry to disturb [03:51] :) [03:52] heh [03:52] ahhhhhh [03:52] so no packages ? [03:52] no it is there, I just installed it [03:52] apt-get tells me it isn't [03:52] may be an external repo you have ? [03:52] are you on Feisty? [03:52] yes [03:53] no, I just have ubuntu repos [03:53] raphink packaged it [03:53] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=pdfedit&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all [03:53] don't look there [03:54] it's not here under that name [03:55] apt-file search on feisty returns no pdfedit [03:55] doh [03:55] hahaha [03:55] idem [03:55] nothing in adept [03:56] it was in my apt cache that's why [03:57] nixternal: so it is allready packages or i can do it ? [03:57] apt-cache show pdfedit still shows it [03:57] there is a package somewhere I guess [03:58] nope [03:58] you're the only one who seems to have it [03:58] nixternal: i don't even find any sources package [03:59] that is odd [03:59] I think because I have built it in the past maybe [04:00] mhb: re theme-ing - after a KDE restart most things look very well, the remaining problems are "missing" override possibilities, especially default background for konqui in web mode [04:01] larsivi: good to hear [04:01] also KOffice seems to be confused, and mess up what is colored how and not, and stores the theme bg color for the documents [04:01] looks like you can just request a sync with Debian unstable [04:01] It builds fine from Debian === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.86] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] nixternal: yes i've seen it [04:06] but i wonder if there is no legacy problems .... [04:09] I am building it right now to find out [04:09] me too [04:09] :) [04:14] looks like it builds fine and runs fine on feisty [04:19] nixternal: your pc is really faster than mine! :) [04:20] i'm still building [04:20] Celeron M 1.6 [04:20] 1.5gb of ram [04:20] 512 Mo de ram .... [04:20] p4 2.4 GHz [04:22] <_StefanS_> what are you building ? [04:22] pdfedit [04:22] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [04:23] <_StefanS_> wonder how fast it does on a core2 duo [04:23] much faster [04:23] I just built it on an amd64 in half the time [04:24] <_StefanS_> hehe [04:24] <_StefanS_> yes you can really spot the differences when you compile stuff.. [04:24] <_StefanS_> I was actually thinking about testing my ps3 to see how fast it can do .. [04:24] <_StefanS_> runs feisty ;) [04:25] <_StefanS_> are you guys having some errors reported while doing apt-get update on multiverse? [04:26] I just did an apt-get update, didn't see anything [04:26] let me try again [04:26] <_StefanS_> hmm [04:26] <_StefanS_> it complains that the file is not a gz [04:26] typical translation ignores [04:26] <_StefanS_> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz [04:27] <_StefanS_> pretty odd [04:27] just did an apt-get update, all normal === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:37] Heya [04:37] boo === nixternal goes to da campus! [04:38] aahhh === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" [04:45] Riddell: is it stil edgy main ? === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-70-240.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] DaSkreech: is what? [04:46] test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main [04:46] oh, that can go === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs [04:46] I added the merge part since that's the current focus === Hobbsee wonders if MOM is back up yet === Hobbsee notes she'll be in singapore in 48 or so hours - eek! [04:47] Hobbsee: no, although I did see something called DaD on the -motu list [04:47] ah, singaport, visit the garden if you have a chance [04:47] same here - havent looked into it [04:47] the humidity there is very sauna like, good for the pores [04:47] Riddell: i'm only in there for 4 hours. depending on which garden, imay have seen it last time, though [04:48] yep :) [04:48] rains predictively at the same time, each dya [04:48] the airport garden [04:48] er, make that 2 hours. less than. [04:49] will try, though [04:49] to remember to look, that is [04:50] Hobbsee: dpkg-deb: building package `kvpnc' in `../kvpnc_0.8.5.1-1~6.06prevu1_i386.deb'. [04:50] Hobbsee: edgy->dapper works [04:50] well it builds [04:50] jdong: nice [04:50] I don't have any vpns to test in, so.... [04:50] wonder if it works works [04:50] ahhh [04:52] uuh uuh [04:52] "In a joint statement released today, Dell Inc. and Canonical Ltd. announced that Dell will now offer laptops and desktop computers pre-installed with Ubuntu Linux 7.04." === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@212.3.114.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] hi vorian [04:58] hey Riddell :) [05:00] last time I came here nixternal made fun of me :( [05:00] vorian: there's fun in #ubuntu today [05:00] be on your guard. [05:00] Hobbsee, I'm not an op in #ubuntu [05:01] but i'll be on guard anyway :) [05:01] vorian: lucky [05:01] =] [05:01] vorian: you could probably be a temp one if you wanted [05:01] kick the spambots [05:01] just holler if you need my help [05:02] :) [05:02] uh...by then it's too late [05:02] pre-emptive striking is the key [05:02] ah, yep [05:03] My suspend is utterly broken. :/ [05:03] Freaking fglrx drivers. [05:04] suspend to ram doesn't wake up (if it goes to sleep properly, like once in a while), suspend to disk doesn't even finish suspending. [05:04] Without fglrx, it works. [05:04] But that means no X or vesa, both of which suck donkey balls. [05:04] sebas: can't whitelisting that module help? [05:04] sebas: or blacklisting - I'm not familiar with all the possibilities [05:04] Nope, it's really the driver that's broken, telling the system it's not doesn't make it better. [05:05] so you've tried that? [05:05] Yes. I've tried lots of things, among which different drivers, different kernels, different hacks to make it work -- all nogo. [05:06] It's quite depressing. === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:23] Weak, Canonical is only sending me 50 of the 125 Kubuntu CDs I requested. [05:23] That kinda kills my plans. [05:23] manchicken_: well, I get only 15 [05:23] Maybe I should go bitch in ubuntu-marketing. [05:23] Tm_T: I'm next to the University of Illinois campus. [05:23] manchicken_: our LoCo is crying for Ubuntu cd's [05:23] Tm_T: I was going to put displays up all over campus. [05:24] manchicken_: well, we intended to share discs to our parliament, in several expo during summer etc etc... [05:25] Nice. [05:25] yeah, but what to share if you don't get any [05:25] any/enough [05:25] I wonder how expensive they are. [05:26] 1.50 EUR / CD [05:26] yup [05:26] I don't know EUR... how is that to USD? [05:27] 1.3 or 1.4 USD === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] so, ~2 USD [05:27] manchicken_: you should also be able to whine at uds for it [05:27] err [05:27] Hobbsee: Bet your ass I will. [05:27] Hobbsee: :) [05:27] manchicken_: whine for us too ;) [05:27] Hobbsee: Good morning by the way [05:28] manchicken_: :) [05:28] manchicken_: morning! === Hobbsee should really be in bed [05:28] I don't see how they intend to have a grass-roots marketing strategy without the distribution to match. [05:29] or did they not recognise you as a loco person? [05:29] seeing as people are known to sometimes be malicious with teh cds [05:29] Hobbsee: It's possible that they didn't, since the ubuntu-loco is only first meeting on the 19th. [05:29] Hobbsee: our LoCo "leader" did fail as miserably to get cd's as I did === lucas_ [n=lucas@167-209.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] Tm_T: darn [05:30] so dunno where's the problem [05:30] Tm_T: did you speak to jono about it? [05:30] Hobbsee: I've got a box of LTS CDs that I can use, but it's only like a dozen. [05:30] Hobbsee: I haven't yet, but will as soon as I have time for this more [05:31] Hobbsee: I think the other guy did sey something, not sure though [05:31] ahhh [05:31] ahh [05:32] *ghaahhh* I'm your father Luke! *ghhhh* === Jannex [n=jokalli2@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T slaps Jannex [05:33] And I don't have 150EUR (assuming around USD$200) to blow on CDs either. [05:33] manchicken_: yeah, neither do us =) [05:33] manchicken_: you *should* be able to get more - especially if you advise them that they're sponsoring you to UDS [05:33] but i dont work for canonical, so i dont know [05:34] the au team has been able to do pretyt well - but is very well known, too [05:34] can't these CDs be made at a cheaper price? or does this include logistics costs as well? [05:35] likely logistics === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@212.3.114.130] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [05:41] rahhhhh OOo sucks! :( [05:42] is there any package to test koffice2 ? [05:42] imbrandon: ktorrent SRU today? ^_^ [05:47] jdong, yup i'll get to it hehe [05:47] marseillai_: no [05:47] marseillai_: they havn't made any source releases [05:48] grrrrrrrrrr but it seems koffice2 is good now ... === marseillai_ will continue to restart OOo every 15 minutes [05:48] we can look at making one after the kde 4 alpha [05:48] :) === marseillai_ want to take a look at "big" package like kdenetwork or thing like that for future ... :) [05:50] may be i could help here too :) [05:51] Riddell: i've several idea of package to do on kde-apps but if you have small apps you want to be package i can take this sort of work to improve my packaging skills [05:52] marseillai_: package the whole of kde 4 if you want :) alpha is out on thursday and I'm away to spain on friday === marseillai_ remmber well. i've said little apps Riddell ! :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:56] Riddell: Who do I talk to to actually get large orders of CDs to put up? [05:57] manchicken: order on shipit's special request page [05:57] I did. [05:57] They only approved 50 of the 125 I ordered. [05:57] And I was being conservative with my 125 order. [05:58] stop whining, burn them yourself :) [05:58] fdoving: You try getting the library to let you put burned CDs on their community displays. [05:58] manchicken: it's a common issue, they're not giving out lots of CDs any more [05:59] Riddell: If they were a more reasonable price I'd just buy them, but I don't have 1.50EUR per disc for 100 discs. [06:00] Is there any way that I could buy them at cost do you think? [06:01] BTW, I'm talking with linuxant right now to get the suspend and resume issues with linuxant driverloader sorted out. [06:03] I don't know of any other way to get them [06:03] I have plenty of dapper CDs still [06:03] That's cool. [06:03] Are they handing out Dapper CDs still? [06:04] nope [06:05] Hmm... [06:05] I only have like 12 of those left. === MidMark [n=marco@host-84-220-168-108.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4454c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:24] Hmm... liquidweather superkaramba plugin is sitting on sem_wait() forever.... [06:25] PyThread_acquire_lock === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ is now known as jdong === toma is now known as toma_ === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD577C7D2.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD577C7D2.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:05] Riddell: I'd like to create a metapackage 'kde-build-essential' to install the regular stuff needed for kde compile processes... shall I create a seperated kde-meta or include it into kubuntu-meta? [07:05] apachelogger: what's wrong with apt-get build-dep kdebase? [07:06] hm [07:06] didn't think about that :) [07:06] not adeptable? :) [07:06] though [07:07] Riddell: yeah, not adeptable, no unsermake === apachelogger is wonderin whether it would install automake [07:08] unsermake is dead [07:08] well, anyway [07:08] which user does know about that? [07:08] about which? [07:08] I didn't even think of that possability in first place [07:08] Riddell: apt-get build-dep kdebase [07:09] a package just seems more handy to me [07:09] that's the ideal, if people want all the packages needed to build kde's base, voila [07:09] a package needs to be kept in sync [07:09] hm === apachelogger still doesn't get where kdebase's deps depend on automake [07:10] anyway [07:11] Riddell: gotta talk to kubuntu-de.org whether we can put into the repo there, and see how it goes ^^ [07:11] would kde4base install cmake ? [07:11] usability is not just for users ;-) [07:11] apachelogger: ok [07:11] DaSkreech: apt-get build-dep kde4base would [07:12] could that be an option on adept? [07:12] Install. Install Code dependices [07:12] It could be hidden by default [07:13] to not confuse mortals [07:13] seems like a good idea if there's a way to do it without cluttering the user interface === btse [n=BTSE@c83-253-251-101.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:22] Riddell: sounds good === toma_ is now known as toma === jwambaugh [n=jordan@204.154.43.244] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54974DDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.250.139] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-143-204.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:57] <_Sime> ok, I think I just reproduced that annoying crash in displayconfig-restore.py. === allee [n=ach@lapex-mcallee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] _Sime: ooh? [08:04] <_Sime> using the xrandr extension when it is disabled, crashes xorg. In earlier versions of xorg that was not the case. [08:06] now that I see you two here: Do you have any idea why a Python/KDE3 app emits SIGSEGV when self.exec_loop() is called? [08:07] mountconfig does that, bug 87829 [08:07] Launchpad bug 87829 in kde-guidance "Feisty: kde-systemsettings, disk & filesystems, crashes when adding smb-share" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87829 [08:07] <_Sime> I've got an idea. [08:07] or do you have hints on how to find the cause of such bug? === btse_ [n=BTSE@c83-253-251-101.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] <_Sime> I think it might be a really ugly bug related to opening dialogs that have a parent window specified. === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4454c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] <_Sime> see if creating the dialog with a None parent window parameter fixes the problem. === btse_ [n=BTSE@c83-253-251-101.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ is now known as jdong === elcuco__ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-155-130-18.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:14] _Sime discovers apport :) [08:14] _Sime: sadly it wasn't the case [08:15] _Sime: SMBShareSelectDialog already did set the parent as None === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] <_Sime> mhb: mmmm [08:16] <_Sime> mhb: I'll have a closer look at it if you like. === meduxa is back. [08:16] sorry === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-218.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pdallago [n=pdallago@host98.200-117-200.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco__ [n=elcuco@bzq-88-155-130-18.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:46] I have a couple gripes with my new feisty installation and I'm not sure where can I voice them [08:46] basically, guidance destroyed my xorg.conf and I had to restore it manually [08:46] <_Sime> what do you mean by destroyed? [08:47] ruined it, X was working fine after the installation and I just tried to change my default resolution [08:48]