VSpike|ericsson|: In fact, the menu is different: Settings Help Edit View Tools12:14
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|ericsson|don: then there is another nvidia package12:14
doni have real good ones but they are ATI12:14
VSpike|ericsson|: and the Settings-> Toolbars contains: Search, Detailed List View, and Extra.12:14
Chris73don: in that file goto section device and change nv to nvidia12:14
doncard works well with windows12:14
chemist109don: install nvidia-glx-legacy12:15
Etokuraamrush, I honestly don't know, sorry12:15
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Chris73don; that way you'll be using the nvidia driver when you restart X12:15
doni tried ill try again i am shure that is it12:15
EtokuraGnome gave me alot of problems, so I switched to KDE12:15
|ericsson|don: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy12:16
stoftnn ppl12:16
|ericsson|sorry chemist109, didn't see you there ;)12:16
donI load itin adept what else todo?12:16
|ericsson|VSpike: that's really creepy :)12:16
chemist109don: be sure that you have also install linux-restricted-modules12:16
donoh that is my command!12:16
|ericsson|stoft: You interested in buying a USB drive from Alarm?12:17
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Chris73don: it's working?12:17
stoft|ericsson|: sure thing! ;)12:17
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VSpike|ericsson|: yeah :) It's like it's kicking off in a different mode or something12:17
chemist109|ericsson|: 's alright12:17
|ericsson|stoft: think you could get it quite cheap by now ;)12:17
stoft|ericsson|: trying to get me while I'm sleepy and weak? ;)12:17
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donstill trying12:17
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anon32how do I adjust swappiness? and what's a sane amount?12:17
|ericsson|stoft: you know it.. ;)12:18
doni still like kubuntu best12:18
|ericsson|VSpike: freak mode..12:18
Chris73don: you'll need to restart X to have the driver loaded12:18
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stoftanon32: for me sane is >= ram, some suspend modes write to ram to swap, you don't want it to be smaller in that case.12:18
anon32stoft, not amount of swap... I want to adjust how aggressively it swaps12:19
donwhat is restart x?12:19
|ericsson|don -> ctrl+alt+backspace, but that shuts down X w/o warning12:19
stoftanon32: ah, no idea, sorry12:19
stoftoh well, going to bed, dead tired.12:19
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donhere goes12:20
|ericsson|stoft: so that means that you'll take the drive? ;))12:20
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|ericsson|I think we'll gonna have nightmares about his drive12:20
chemist109don:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2912:20
Chris73don: that's the link i was looking for :-)12:21
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donwhere do I get linux restricted modules?12:21
Etokurasudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules12:21
donThank  you Chris12:22
Chris73don: you got the resolution you want now?12:22
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andrehey guys,  can anyone recommend a good site on how to install bugzilla on ubuntu?12:22
chemist109don: sudo apt-get install linux-restricte-modules-`uname -v`12:22
|ericsson|apt-get install more-memory doesn't work :(12:23
chemist109don: those marks arount uname -v are backticks, not single quotes12:23
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lontraandre: why would you install bugzilla?12:23
chemist109don: you get them from the upper left key (the one with the ~)12:23
chemist109don: I also misspelled restricted12:24
andrelontra: for bug reporting purposes of my project,  why else?12:24
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AmaranthCan someone unban purpleposeidon for me? I've tested him, exploit fixed.12:24
chemist109don: You also need to reboot if you install those kernel modules12:24
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AmaranthLjL: thanks12:25
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|ericsson|I've got some weird process running: ericsson  6597  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Apr30   0:00 [netstat]  <defunct> Anyone know what that is?12:27
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Filthpigthings SEEM to be back to normal12:28
pythonistHello .. Viva ubuntu12:28
|ericsson|I have bastille who refuses to die, could this "defunct" netstat cause problems? Starting to think I need to shutdown it's server :(12:28
Filthpigmy system seemed to get a real wedgie with that update12:29
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elspuddyhi i'v just installed kubuntu and i was wondering if there is a linux version of floats moble agent or some sore of varent ?12:32
Plextorhi... when i reboot my pc, X doesn't load automatically, i have to enter login and password, then type "startX"... can i change something so it will be done automatically?12:32
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shad0wi got the same question as Plextor12:33
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SannePlextor: in Kubuntu the program responsible for the graphical login is kdm. Do you have it installed? does the command give you any output: dpkg -l kdm | grep ^ii12:36
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amrushEtokura .. I'm tired of this .. I will try to find a solution later .. thanks for your help .. :)12:36
EtokuraNo problem amrush.. Sorry I couldn't help you more12:37
amrushit's alright :) .. night12:37
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EtokuraGood night12:37
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Powerking89670Can someone point me in the direction of the best way to update from Dapper Drake to Fiesty Fawn. Ive looked on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu sites. the Ubuntu site suggest gksu but Kubuntu does not recognize this command12:38
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shad0wi have the kdm as my default12:38
shad0wbut after i rebooted the pc a couple of times it stopped working12:39
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shad0wand now i have to select the safemode grub boot option and it takes me to the terminal and from there i can run kdm12:39
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donchris it said invalid install12:40
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PlextorSanne, yes it is installed12:41
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Sanneshad0w: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol12:41
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SannePlextor: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol12:42
Sanneshad0w: sorry, meant Plextor, but you can also check, of course ;)12:42
SannePlextor: tell me when ready12:42
pingvenoI'm trying to get eric4 installed on my computer, but it needs qscintilla2. I don't think QScintilla2 is in the feisty repository. Should I just install from source?12:43
PlextorSanne, system administration -> login manager?12:43
pingvenoOr am I missing something12:43
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PlextorSanne, well yes i'm in there12:43
shad0wand where is it supposed to say if its set to start at boot time?12:44
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pingvenooops, I think I found it12:44
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SannePlextor: close ;). System administration -> System Services. Find kdm. It says here: kdm Yes running12:44
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV12:44
PlextorSanne, ok thnx, found it12:45
SannePlextor: what does it say?12:45
Plextori changed it to load when booting12:45
Plextorit wasn't checked12:45
SannePlextor: ah, then maybe that was the problem. Hope it works now :)12:46
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shad0wi dont know im having second thoughts about checking it12:46
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PlextorSanne, going to reboot, thanks )12:46
Sanneshad0w: it's not dangerous ;)12:46
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SannePlextor: good luck12:46
shad0wbecause it starts by default with the other boot option grub gives me but freezes when its there12:46
shad0wi know its not dangerous but what if the same thing happens12:46
shad0wthen im screwed12:46
Sanneshad0w: ok, then you may have problems... whish I could help more.12:47
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shad0wthanks anyway12:48
Sanneshad0w: if nobody here knows, I would search at launchpad for bugs, and ubuntuforums if somebody already has the same problem.12:48
Sanneshad0w: yw :)12:48
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shad0wwel it doesnt really matter im used to having to get to a login screen with Slax anyway12:49
pingvenoI'm trying to install qscintilla2 and its python bindings alongside qscintilla 112:50
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pingvenoIs there anything special I need to do?12:50
Sanneshad0w: ok :) I agree, typing startx is not too bad, I also did it for some years.12:51
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Sannepingveno: if it's from the official repositories, it should work, or tell you if it wants to remove qscintilla1.12:53
aaroncampbellIn my printers section, I have a "Print to file (PDF)" printer listed, but it doesn't seem to show when I try to print something (like from firefox)12:53
Sanneaaroncampbell: you would need to tell firefox to use kprinter for printing.12:54
pingvenoI just took a closer look at qscintilla2. It's in heavy development12:54
pingvenoSo it's *definitely* not in the Fiesty repository :-P12:54
aaroncampbellSanne: how so?  And as opposed to what?12:54
Sanneaaroncampbell: I did the following: hit print, then properties. In the dialog box find the line "Print Command" and put kprinter in there (you may want to back up the original line somewhere, just in case)12:55
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aaroncampbellSanne: The only options I have when I click properties from the print dialog are: Paper Size, Color, and margins (top, bottom, left, and right)12:56
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Powerking89670Can anyone tell me how to kill a program that is running but its window has closed?12:57
Sanneaaroncampbell: you don't have a line "Print Command" under "Paper Size"?12:57
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DragnslcrPowerking89670- if you know how to use a shell, you can use kill. Otherwise, Menu -> System -> KSysGuard lets you kill processes12:59
aaroncampbellSanne: nope12:59
Sanneaaroncampbell: I make a screenshot, sec12:59
Powerking89670Thank you :D12:59
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:00
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baskitcaisePowerking89670: Ctrl+Esc brings up ksysguard quicker01:01
dew_hey all, anybody know how to get a wireless bcm4318 card working in kubuntu with ndiswrapper?01:01
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dew_I've tried everything and it won't work01:02
dew_can see networks, but that's it...01:02
Sanneaaroncampbell: http://imagebin.org/841601:02
baskitcaisedew: are you sure it is using ndiswrapper driver or the kernel OS bcm43xx01:02
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stdindew_: haven't got that card, but try bcm43xx-fwcutter01:03
dew_i've tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19710201:03
dew_yeah, I'm sure I'm using ndiswrapper01:03
aaroncampbellSanne: I guess you have to be on the Postscript/Default printer when you choose it01:03
Sanneaaroncampbell: aaah! Yes, that may be. I have only that one listed, so it didn't occur to me to mention it.01:04
scastHow much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?01:04
dew_ndiswrapper -l gives me "bcmwl5 : driver installed"01:04
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aaroncampbellSanne: I did that, got the option, added the command, and basically, if you choose the postcript printer and choose print, you get another print dialog...a bit convoluted, but it works01:04
dew_stdin, it worked with bcm43xx-fwcutter, but I found it too flaky01:04
Powerking89670Thank you again :D01:04
aaroncampbellSanne: thanks01:05
Sanneaaroncampbell: yes, that's how it's supposed to work, you get an additional kprinter dialog.01:05
Sanneaaroncampbell: you're welcome :)01:05
Sanneaaroncampbell: there's also the option to print to file (*.ps), then run ps2pdf on that file.01:06
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baskitcaisedew_: do you see thre bcm43xx in ls,od?01:06
baskitcaisewhoops sorry , do you see the bcm43xx in lsmod01:07
baskitcaiseif so then you need to blacklist it01:07
aaroncampbellSanne: Thanks...this is working great.  Seems kind of weird...I can choose postscript, rather than my main printer (a Konica Minolta magicolor), and then I can still use kprinter to print to it.  ;)01:07
dew_baskitcaise, yeah, I've already blacklisted it01:07
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Sanneaaroncampbell: yeah, it's weird ;)01:07
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baskitcaiseWhen you do the ndiswrapper -l does it actually say "hardware present"?01:08
SubOneI think I have something going on in the background, it is causing al my games to drop framerate about every 5 seconds. How do I track it down?01:08
dew_it says "device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"01:08
SubOneYou don't need to use ndis for bcm43xx01:09
dew_after "bcmwl5 : driver installed" of course01:09
SubOne^^^^ driver for bcm43xx01:09
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baskitcaiseSubOne: some chips don`t work with the opensource module, mine does not I get the same problem01:11
dew_subone, bcmxx-fwcutter works, but it's way too flaky01:12
baskitcaiseI can see networks but not connect no matter what I try01:12
SubOnehmm i didnt know that, worked for me no problem01:12
dew_I had this card working fine in gnome under edgy01:12
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dew_with ndiswrapper01:12
SubOnebaskitcaise: did you use the fwcutter with it?01:13
baskitcaiseFunny my card works fine in both with nothing special done exept using the xp driver01:13
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baskitcaiseDew: no I used the driver from the CD ( winodws)01:13
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dew_baskitcaise, I have dual boot01:14
dew_where can I find the driver and where should I copy it too?01:14
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SubOnedew_: should be on your driver  install cds from the factory01:15
baskitcaiseHave a search for it in trhe system or ststem32 dirs, I cannot remember off the top of my head and XP is on another disk01:15
SubOnedew_: http://freewebs.com/ronserver/bcm43xx.tar.gz01:15
dew_what's the file called?  bcmwl5*.* ?01:16
SubOneclick the link dew01:16
dew_subone, done01:17
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dew_now what do I do with them?01:17
baskitcaisedew_: have a look here: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php01:18
scastHow much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?01:18
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stdinscast: minimum is 2GB, but 30GB is reccommended01:19
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scastI need that much for a /? (I am going to keep my /home partition separated)01:19
stdinscast: especially if /home is on the same partition01:19
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stdinscast: then 10GB will be plenty01:20
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scastWhat kind of filesystem do you think works better with Kubuntu for a / partition? I was thinking on making /home ext3 and / XFS01:21
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SubOneHow do i stop apt-index-watch. It seems to be what is lagging my game.01:23
K-RyanWhat game?01:23
K-RyanJust curious01:24
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K-RyanHi there lettuce01:24
SubOnediablo for one01:24
stdinscast: if you use xfs, make sure to install xfsprogs01:24
SubOneand web games also01:24
lettuceThis place has been my freakin e-home for the past couple weeks lol01:24
scaststdin: Do I need to do that before, in or after installation?01:24
K-RyanSubOne, alright so it isn't a driver issue.01:25
K-RyanGive me two seconds I'll look into your problem.01:25
lettuceI need a link to the page with instructions for installing video card drivers for ubuntu01:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:25
K-RyanThat link01:25
K-RyanShould do it lettuce ;)01:25
lettucethank you01:25
K-RyanNo problem01:25
SubOneK-Ryan: but it looks like apt-index-watch comes up every time it lags, which is every 5 seconds. How can i kill that to test01:26
K-RyanOkay, start by going to System Settings01:26
stdinscast: after is ok, it just inclides the tools needed to manage the FS (like fsck.xfs)01:26
K-RyanClick the Advanced tab up top01:27
scastOh, I see.01:27
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K-RyanThen the System Services icon01:27
K-RyanWhen that window pops up, click administrator mode and pop in your pass01:27
K-RyanThen select apt-index-watcher01:27
K-Ryanand Click stop01:27
K-RyanI think01:28
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SubOnek one sec01:29
srinidhihi all. I have a problem with vcd mount in feisty, kubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-1501:29
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stdinsrinidhi: you don't mount a vcd01:31
stdinsrinidhi: you just play iy01:31
srinidhiit doesnt even mount01:31
SubOneK-Ryan: it looks like that was it, is there any way to get that to stop doing that lol01:31
SubOneK-Ryan: or is keeping it off the only solution01:32
K-RyanHmm, I dunno.01:32
K-RyanIf that's what's causing the issue, probably have to turn it off.01:32
K-RyanGranted I'm not sure what it does, so there might be more to it.01:32
flaccidi just tried to install vmware server and it said i needed to run the uninstall script, however it doesn't exist on my system. this must be from vmware-player. what do i do?01:32
K-RyanFeel free to ask others01:32
mahdisrinidhi: you mean the drive doesn't mount when there's a vcd in it?01:32
srinidhii can mount manually but none of the players are able to play01:33
SubOneK-Ryan: my guess is it checks for updated packages01:33
stdinyou don't mount a VCD (like a DVD) it's played raw01:33
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mahdii've no experience with vcd's per se01:33
K-RyanSubOne, no idea. Good luck with it though ;)01:34
SubOneK-Ryan: well thanks for helping me turn it off01:34
srinidhistdin: i know. but what if it dosent even mount ? :(01:34
K-RyanI figure for what it's worth, this community helped me.01:34
K-RyanIt's the least I can do by helping others.01:34
srinidhiautomount should happen right01:34
srinidhiok. i can put it as vcd is not detected. but the problem is same01:35
stdinsrinidhi: try just pointing your media player at the device01:35
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srinidhistdin: did but kaffeine crashes01:35
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srinidhihere is teh bug report01:36
lettucehello again01:36
lettuceI need the guide for installing xgl and beryl onto fiesty01:36
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:36
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lettucedoesn't ubuntu's wiki have a guide?01:37
K-RyanYou're probably best off checking the actual site though.01:37
stdinlettuce: the beryl website has a guide01:38
K-RyanI know there was a guide on there somewhere because I found it when I installed Beryl.01:38
lucadoes anyone here know how to enable xgl or aiglx with nvidia-glx-new driver (up and running, downloaded from the nvidia site)?01:38
stdinlettuce: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL01:38
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cables!effects | lettuce01:38
ubotulettuce: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.01:38
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srinidhiis there no way aroud this vcd problem? :(01:39
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:39
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cablesluca, why did you go and download it from the Ubuntu site?01:40
cablesluca, i mean the nVidia site?01:40
cablesluca, that's the wrong way to install it.01:40
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K-Ryancables was right, it's best to just use the packages for it.01:40
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K-Ryan!nvidia | luca01:40
ubotuluca: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
lucacables: it did not function properly when installing from synaptics01:40
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lucait does not function properly now either, but wanted to give it a try01:41
flaccidany vmware/feisty users ?01:42
lucaK-Ryan: already gone through that01:42
K-RyanWhat was the trouble?01:42
lucamy problem is that the driver nvidia-glx01:42
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lucadoes not function properly, in that I have xgl but NO suspension01:43
lucawhich is enabled with the latest driver01:43
lucaas well as 3d and anything I can think of - BUT xg01:43
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K-Ryanhmm, iunno, not experienced with that kind of issue,01:43
lucaI do not know why :(01:43
K-RyanI just know that I used the packages and mine works fine01:43
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SubOneDoes anyone know why apt-index-watch is lagging my games every 5 seconds? I just started doing this yesterday.01:44
stdinluca: nvidia-xgl != glx (there is a difference between xgl and glx)01:44
lucaeh I thought so before using the latest driver ;) now however I would like xgl back, 'cause obviously emerald/aquamarine/gtk-window-decorator do not function...01:44
lucastdin I will have a look thx01:44
lucasorry thought you had launched a tip ;)01:44
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lucauhm in any case I have this error when I try to enable emerald: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3201:45
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lucaI have added the line: Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" , but it does not make any effect01:46
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stdinluca: default depth for xorg needs to be 2401:46
stdin(for nvidia)01:46
soulrider__flaccid: i use vmware01:46
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lucastdin: how would i solve the issue then?01:47
flaccidsoulrider: on feisty?01:47
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stdinluca: either reconfigure the X server, or change the "DefaultDepth" part of /etx/X11/xorg.conf to "DefaultDepth    24"01:48
soulriderflaccid: no, i use Archlinux01:48
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gailI have a simple question that I am challenged with finding an answer for . . . . . what is the native file system for Ubuntu 7.04?  Is it ext3, ext2, reiser?01:48
lucawoah it is set to 16! :S01:48
lucathat's very bad, I will try it :)01:48
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K-Ryanext3 if i'm not mistaken01:49
lucastdin: sure this should work?01:49
stdingail: yeah, ext301:49
baskitcaiseext3 AFAICS01:49
K-Ryanas far as i can see?01:49
gailright on!  thank you very much, have a good evening01:49
K-RyanYou too01:49
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K-Ryanheheh, he said "right on!"01:49
lucaok trying to reboot01:49
stdinluca: I know that the nvidia driver needs default depth of 24, but I don't have an nvidia card, so I can't be 100%01:49
lucastdin: thanks a lot! :)01:50
baskitcaiseK-Ryan: yep have not looked too far :-) all I know is it did not like reiser:-)01:50
stdinnp :)01:50
donhi guys my resolition is fixed !01:50
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lucain case I will just restore to 16, I know how to do it from command line by now :D01:50
baskitcaiseMy disk was already formatted in reiser ( ex-suse) and I did not change it, no boot ha ha.01:50
stdin!resolution | don01:50
ubotudon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:50
K-Ryanstdin he said he fixed it01:51
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stdinK-Ryan: fixed can meed "no longer broke" or "can't change", so just in case :P01:51
doni tried all that then i kept trading cards then it set up my nvida correctly01:51
K-RyanAh, good point.01:51
donthanks i will right that down01:52
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srinidhistdin: mahdi can i try anything else for this vcd problem ?01:54
donwhen I did that it said invalid install01:54
stdinsrinidhi: does vlc or mplayer work?01:54
deitarionWhat was the command to upgrade to feisty? My mother's camera needs a newer version of spca5xx/gspcav1 than Edgy offers. (I know it works because my Gentoo box has the same model sitting on the right LCD)01:54
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srinidhino stdin01:54
mahdisrinidhi: can't say i know how, my experience with vcd's is very limited01:54
stdin!upgrade | deitarion01:55
ubotudeitarion: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)01:55
srinidhioh ok mahdi01:55
stdinsrinidhi: not sure then, you may have to wait  until it's fixed01:55
srinidhihmm .. ok01:55
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srinidhianyways thanks  guys01:55
mahdisrinidhi: sorry, can you get any program to recognize it? perhaps to rip it and use the files01:56
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srinidhii am not even able to copy the video files01:56
mahdisrinidhi: does the device drive dissapear from fstab when you insert a vcd?01:56
srinidhino mahdi01:57
srinidhiit dosent appear01:57
srinidhibut i can do mount /dev/cdrom01:57
srinidhithen it mounts it as media01:57
srinidhibut it doesnt play01:57
mahdiand i assume that won't let you use it either?01:57
stdinthing about VCD is that the video is on another session (partition) on the CD01:58
srinidhisudo cp /media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat /home/srinidhi/01:58
srinidhicp: reading `/media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat': Input/output error01:58
srinidhithis is what happens ehen i try to copy01:58
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flaccidsoulrider: i seem to get OS not found. doesn't look like you can change boot options for the partition it uses? im not sure how it works01:59
mahdii believe k3b can make an iso from disc, have you tried mounting it manually and doing that?01:59
soulriderflaccid: no idea, maybe #vmware ?01:59
flaccidyep trying atm01:59
KennyGmy live kubuntu cd is only letting me boot in safe graphics mode, what is this actually doing?02:00
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srinidhimahdi: will try that02:00
stdinKennyG: loading the VESA graphics driver02:01
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stdinVESA = generic (works with anything) driver02:01
KennyGah k02:01
flaccidqemu it might have to be02:01
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srinidhiunable to access the tracks though k3b either for creating a vcd or for ripping02:05
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donwhere do you get the VESA  driver?02:05
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scastWell, I am on the Live CD now :o02:08
stdindon: it's built in02:09
donok in adept02:09
donI am very pleased now everything works02:10
stdindon: no, it's built in to the kernel. It's already installed02:10
K-Ryanscast, trouble?02:10
scaststdin: what's your partitions scheme?02:11
scastK-Ryan: not really, haven't installed because I am trying to figure out what filesystem to use in my / partition and /home partition =P02:11
doni just fixed my resolution, stdin02:11
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K-Ryanhold on, let me look at mine just to be sure of the whole setup02:11
K-Ryanmy / is ext302:12
mahdisrinidhi: i think it may be in the hands of the devs, I don't know where else to check02:12
donthere is an awful lot of very nice software in this package02:13
K-Ryanmy boot is ext302:13
kristjan_I would also recommend using only ext3, with xfs installer won't let you continue unless you also create 50MB ext3 /boot02:13
K-Ryanand swap is linux-swap02:13
K-RyanSo it should pretty much just be ext302:13
K-RyanExcluding the swap of course02:13
kristjan_make swap a little bigger than 1.5 of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk02:14
scastYou have /home in your / partition too?02:14
K-Ryankristjan_, 1.5 what?02:14
stdinscast: I have a 29 GB / and a 40GB /home (with a 1GB swap)02:14
kristjan_scast: it won't hurt having separate home partition (but it's very personal)02:14
stdinlaptop PC w/ 80GB hdd02:15
K-RyanShould I of seperated my / and /home?02:15
kristjan_1.5xtimes the size of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk02:15
scastI am thinking / partition with ext3 filesystem and /home with XFS but not sure.02:15
K-RyanOh, gotcha02:15
kristjan_K-Ryan: you don't have to02:15
K-RyanBut should I have done that?02:15
K-RyanJust curious because I might start fresh when I get my Feisty CD02:16
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kristjan_K-Ryan: I got separate /home and / and swap02:16
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K-RyanWould it make any difference if it was seperated?02:17
scastkristjan_: what filesystems do you use?02:17
kristjan_K-Ryan: I also have /testing partition02:17
kristjan_scast: ext302:17
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scastK-Ryan: in performance? I don't think so... perhaps if you switch distributions you only have to install your new distribution on the / partition.02:17
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kristjan_xfs is faster than ext3, but edgy installer won't let you use xfs partitions only (you have to create separate /boot with ext2 in order to use xfs on /home and /)02:19
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K-RyanHey I've heard some rumors that games run better under Wine than they do Windows. Anyone know?02:20
scastUhm, that's why I was thinking on creating / with ext3 and /home withs XFS but not sure.02:20
stanleyhey someone showed me how to clear adept the otherday02:20
K-RyanBecause I need motivation to setup Wine =)02:20
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stanleyi din write it down or save it...does anyone know how to do this??02:20
scastK-Ryan: I don't think so, but might be, why not? XD02:20
K-RyanYeah, I mean I've got it installed and everything.02:20
lontrakicker: error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0:  < -- what do i need to install?02:20
kristjan_scast: create then / and /home with xfs + /boot (about 100MB) with ext202:20
K-RyanI just lack the motivation to figure out what to do and everything.02:20
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stdinstanley: clear adept?02:21
K-RyanI think he means thats string to terminate adept when it crashes02:21
stanleylike when i open the program02:21
K-RyanGuess not02:21
stanleyit says that i would not be able to make any changes because the databse is in use by another application02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:22
K-Ryanyeah that02:22
K-RyanI was right =)02:22
stanleyyea thats it02:22
scastHow much swap is enough?02:22
scastI already have a 1gb swap, is that too much? Too little?02:22
K-RyanHow much RAM ya' got?02:22
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scastUhm, let me check X_X02:23
stanleythanx guys02:23
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K-RyanAnytime stanley02:23
cj_scast: too much02:23
K-Ryanlol cj_02:23
stdinscast: depends on ram, about 1.5 - 2 x ram is reccommended02:23
cj_scast: thats a waste fo disk space02:23
kristjan_scast: it depends. how much ram do you have?02:23
K-Ryan384, that's an odd amount02:23
cj_stdin: thats a fallacy02:23
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kristjan_cj_: it's not waste if you want to suspend to disk that will fail with small swap size02:23
K-Ryani think i read somewhere it should be twice your RAM up to 500MB or something02:23
stdincj_: like I said, depends on how much ram tho02:24
scastSo... How much? 1.5xRAM?02:24
K-Ryanbut I took the safe route and doubled my 512MB for the full gig of swap02:24
don128 +256 memory02:24
livingtmanyone here familiar with  kbluetooth?02:24
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scastdon: yes, I think so.02:24
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:24
livingtmI'd like to pair the laptop with a headset for voip.. no idea how to go about that in KDE02:25
donya i ran into same thought otherday on one02:25
K-RyanLet's see...02:25
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:25
scast2xRam then?02:25
K-Ryan"If you have n MB of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap. If you have a disk big enough, just put the 2*n Mb swap."02:25
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doni just let kubuntu set my partitions it works02:25
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red22i have kubuntu feisty. after installing ubuntu-desktop, "startx" brings up a gnome session... i want to bring up the session selector screen or at least have it go to kde instead.  how pls?02:26
lontrawhat provides liblazy?02:26
scastMeh, 784mb swap it is then.02:27
K-RyanHow did you manage to get that amount of RAM?02:27
scastWoops, 768.02:27
K-RyanI'm really curious because that's an odd amount.02:28
TheDebuggerred22: Make a .xinitrc in your home with "exec startkde" in it02:28
scastWas thinking on 768 and 384 at the same time.02:28
K-RyanYeah, not a big deal02:29
K-RyanWhat combination of RAM do you have to give you 384?02:29
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red22TheDebugger: ok thanks i will try that but one question... there is no such file right now.. how does it know to start gnome when it gets "startx" now?02:29
K-RyanIt's bothering me that I don't know.02:29
scastI think it is 128 + 256... or 64 + 64 + 25602:30
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scastNot sure.02:30
scastor 3 128 sticks.02:30
kristjan_then again if you don't plan to use suspend to disk ever, then GBs of swap is waste of space in my opninion (you would be safe with 300)02:30
TheDebuggerred22: It must be the default, i don't remember where is that file though :/02:30
TheDebuggerred22: You don't use gdm/kdm?02:30
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K-Ryanyeah, good call02:31
K-Ryanno it didnt take me that long to do it...02:31
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K-RyanI pulled out the speedcrunch and let it do it for me02:31
K-Ryan(calc app)02:31
mahdired22: uninstall gdm then dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it should be fixed, then you can just select sessions at will02:31
red22TheDebugger: i use kdm when i start the machine up but then to switch sessions i get kicked out to console bc beryl has messed up my logging out.  so i need to exec some command to go graphical again.  so is this the best way to get kdm going again?02:32
scastI think I am going ext3, XFS seems faster but I have never tried it, however I never had problems with ext3 and I am not such a performance freak.02:32
SkyblastI have an HDTV I want to connect through DVI, but there are two problems. 1) It runs at a very different resolution than my monitor. 1024x768 for the monitor versus 1280x720 for the TV. and 2) It's not connected to the PC all the time, just as I need it. Is it still possible to set up a dual head with this configuration? I have an ATi Radeon 9800SE and am using the open source ati driver.02:32
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K-RyanYou can change the resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x720 if I'm not mistaken02:33
K-RyanFor when it's connected to the TV02:33
marcelosome Brazilian?02:33
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K-RyanGranted I haven't worked with computer-to-TV so it's all guesswork02:34
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:34
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SkyblastK-Ryan: It's not differant than a typical monitor really. That's all HDTV's are. :) But right now, if I just hook the TV up, it gets no signal from the DVI02:35
red22TheDebugger: don't i need gdm to load gnome sessions?  is gdm just the session picker app? so can i just uninstall gdm, and use kdm to pick either kde or gnome as well ?02:35
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K-RyanSkyblast: does something have to be setup that you might have overlooked?02:36
SkyblastSuch as?02:36
K-RyanI don't know, like I said before, guesswork02:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
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scastAight, /dev/sda1 -- ntfs --- mountpoint: /media/windows; /dev/sda2 -- ext2 -- mountpoint: boot; /dev/sda3 -- swap; /dev/sda5 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /; /dev/sda6 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /home02:37
scastMy /boot is 32mb, is that big enough?02:38
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red22does gnome need gdm to run pls?02:38
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cj_red22: no, you can you .xinitrc if you please02:39
Jucatored22: gdm isn't absolutely necessary to run GNOME. you can start a GNOME session from kdm too02:39
red22cj_: ok i have kde installed as well so i can just select it from kdm too right?02:39
red22ah ok ty guys02:40
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wolferinehow do you install tovid?02:40
red22ubuntu needs to update the boot loader and rest of the boot graphics.  other distros look much better during booting.02:43
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ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/02:43
cj_red22: like which distros?02:43
red22cj_: for example i used to have fedora year/s? ago and it already had a nicer boot loader with the fedora logo and a nice looking screen.02:44
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cj_red22: well fair enough, use fedora if you don't mind being an unpaid beta-hamster02:45
red22cj_: i don't use fedora i use *buntus.  but i manually have to change the bootloader to make it look nice and it's not a fun thing to tell a newb to do that.  so could just be updated out of the box for a next version.02:47
red22just find it weird it has been overlooked for so long.  mandrake also has a nice more graphical looking boot selection screen.  not a big deal aparently to change.02:48
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MindUser39294Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/02:48
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red22just sayin that's all02:48
cj_red22: yeah, perhaps they devs should waste time polishing a 15 second bootsplash instead of say tweaking drivr support, or polishing something you see for longer than 15 secs02:49
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MindUser39294Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/02:50
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cj_looks a lot better under feisty than dapper already02:50
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red22ok fella, whoa keep your pants on.  not all of us have to like looking at pretty things.02:51
charlie_any got team speak working on kubuntu?02:51
cpk1I used to have a teamspeak server running off kubuntu a long time ago02:51
cedrosswhat is team speak?02:51
charlie_software that allows you to talk to other players in multiplayer on line games02:52
donhow old is kubuntu?02:52
Jucatoa voip program usually used for online gaming communication02:52
charlie_yeah, thats team speak02:52
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Jucatothe other alternative to teamspeak is ventrillo afaik02:53
red22cedross: yeah, for games who's developers didn't have the bright idea to include it in-game especially.02:53
cpk1last I saw vent didnt have a linux client though02:54
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Jucatodon: 2 years old02:57
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Jucatolol why didn't we celebrate :(02:57
K-RyanAnyone ever play that xjewel thing?02:57
dontis is the best linux system i have found02:57
K-RyanI love it, just like columns =)02:57
K-Ryandon what others have you tried?02:57
lontrahow come there isn't an icon for kcontrol in kmenu?02:58
K-RyanI've only tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu02:58
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tygermy sound card doesn't work can anybody help02:58
Jucatocpk1: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php02:59
donxandros,solaris,mefis,knoppix many versions of some02:59
Jucatolontra: Kubuntu uses System Settings as a substitute02:59
Jucatolontra: but you can still run or add kcontrol to the menu if you want. it's installed by default02:59
tygerI'm using intel02:59
K-RyanAre you on a laptop?03:00
doni like kubuntu 6.06 then i went for fawn03:00
K-RyanMy friend has the same problem03:00
lontraJucato: but there isn't an icon anywhere for it ... i need to add it via the menu editor?  that seems silly03:00
scast10gb is more than enough for / right?03:00
donamd on a EliteGroupe03:00
cpk1Jucato: yup, client for linux is "in development"03:00
K-RyanYeah, Kubuntu didn't seem to recognize his sound card.03:00
tygeris there any work arounds03:01
doncan you make icons smaller on fawn?03:01
K-RyanI'm not sure, but if you find out let me know.03:01
tygerhow about wireless03:01
K-RyanBecause we didn't find a way, but we were still really new to Linux when we were doing that.03:01
tygerits not accepting the passwords03:01
K-Ryanlol, he has the same problem.03:01
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K-RyanWell, the wireless just doesn't work03:01
K-RyanOn his anyway03:02
K-RyanIt probably needs tweaking, let's try this.03:02
tygermine only works with a wireless that has no password03:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:02
K-RyanMight want to try your luck there03:02
donthere are many wireless wizards in add and remove03:02
tygeroh ok03:03
tygerwhich is the best one03:03
K-RyanIt probably depends on what you're using.03:04
K-RyanSo trial and error.03:04
tygergateway laptop03:04
K-RyanNo way, so is my friend's.03:04
donknetwork manager ?03:04
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K-RyanYou guys must have the same one.03:04
tyger2.8 ghz03:04
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K-Ryantyger your name wouldn't happen to be Chris right?03:04
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tyger mark03:04
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K-RyanThat's his dad's name, heheh.03:05
K-RyanHiya DarthFrog03:05
tygerI like linux I can run windows software on it03:05
tygerjust problem with drivers03:05
K-RyanThe sound drivers03:05
donanyone try to configure one of the tv programs?03:06
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tygerdemocracy is good03:06
tygertv program03:06
DarthFrogI have a  bizarre problem with a pretty much fresh install of Feisty.  In a nutshell, pressing almost any key causes X to resize the window.03:06
K-RyanNone of your keys are stuck down, correct/03:06
tygeris redhat anybetter03:06
donred hat aint free03:07
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donit has its problems too03:07
K-Ryancareful by what you mean03:07
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K-RyanFree in the Linux sense means open source03:07
K-RyanIt's okay, I'm sparing you the lecture03:07
tygerhow do you write your own drivers03:08
K-RyanPeople constantly reminded me that "free" didn't refer to money03:08
don  i checked out linux they will be like microsoft soon03:08
DarthFrogWhich is why free is a terrible term for software.03:08
donred hat03:08
K-Ryandon you can't really check out linux03:08
K-RyanLinux is just a big category03:08
K-RyanThere are so many different distributions03:08
donI ment Red Hat03:09
K-RyanOh, gotcha03:09
donwhat does she look like03:09
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DarthFrogOne normally doesn't think of inanimate or intangible things as having freedom.  So when we say such things are free, one thinks of cost.03:09
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:09
DarthFrogThis is a free chair.03:09
K-RyanJucato, is it ok until someone asks for help?03:09
tygerhow do you work the sound server03:09
K-RyanWe're just making chit chat03:09
donlinux has always fasinated me now I got a good one03:09
lucastdin now I have a very clear picture I fear03:10
lontraK-Ryan: it's probably best in -offtopic though ... cause some folks may be afraid to ask questions03:10
JucatoK-Ryan: there's the chance that someone will be hesitant to ask for help because they see an ongoing conversation03:10
donI ask if you knew how to configure tv03:10
K-RyanGood point03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:10
donthey will ask03:10
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Jucatobah wrong factoid :)03:10
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DarthFrogOK, I'm asking for help with my X problem. :-)03:10
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dongood luck03:11
lucaif you had discovered something probably VERY important about the nvidia driver and glx, where would you post it?03:11
yotuxis bogo a goo spam filter?03:11
Jucatoluca: um... what kind of important thing? a guide?  a problem/bug?03:11
yotuxluca:  I would start with the forum and maybe do a wiki03:11
lucajucato, yotux I have discovered that nvidia drivers prevent the machine from going into suspend to ram because of xgl03:12
lontraK-Ryan: nothing wrong with talking about offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic :)03:12
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lucaif you disable it (and thus prevent yourself from using beryl or compiz) suspend to ram works perfectly03:12
K-RyanI know, but I like to help people. And I'm too lazy to keep switching from channel to channel.03:12
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Jucatoluca: if you disable xgl? hm... first maybe you could check with #ubuntu-effects and the bug tracker if this is a known problem03:13
lucajucato ok thanks03:13
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JucatoI think this kind of info is better in the bug tracker03:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:13
lucaJucato thanks I need to tell someone, my last two hours of experimenting should not go to waste :-D03:14
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donat least my sites stpped telling me to udate my browser03:16
lucauhm ok in any case now at least I know how to enable suspend OR glx on this laptop ;) not too hard once you have got the trick :D03:19
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madmikemy mother board is dying ;-(03:27
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madmikethe capacitors are bulging and everythings goin hell03:28
vontuxhello, I believe that I have had a log file fill my hd ;however, I am unable to track down which file(s) are the culprits, any suggestions?03:28
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donwas you overclocking mike?03:29
K-RyanHow old is it?03:31
madmikeit's a known problem with the motherboard03:31
K-Ryananyway to get a refund/replacement?03:31
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K-RyanHmm, that's too bad.03:32
madmikeit's ok I'm just gunna strip it and put the good stuff on another board03:32
donI now how you feel I lost my ARBIT03:32
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vontuxhello, does anyone have experience with log files filling their hd, from a crash of "brutalchess" is what I think is the cause....03:33
donWhat board do you have mike?03:34
madmikeit's in a dell03:34
jttvontux,  use this command from root  to find files largefind . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;r than  1meg accessed in the last 24 hours03:35
donI have one with optiplex it is a good one03:35
jttvontux, find . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;03:35
Jucato(or vontux could also use K Menu -> Find Files/Folders)03:35
jttvontux, from  /   finds files larger than 1meg accessed in last 24 hours03:35
jttJucato, or that03:36
madmikeit's got a 865g chip set03:36
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madmikeit's a small form optiplex and it's got a problem with heat03:37
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madmikeand i got the computer for free and it's already got the problem when i got i guess03:37
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kkerwinHi, I seem to be having a strange pixelation problem with X. The picture describes the problem better, as well as my xorg.conf and my Xorg.0.log: http://xrl.us/xfunkiness http://xrl.us/xfunkyXorgConf http://xrl.us/xorgLog03:38
asimovANyone here good with nvidia drivers?03:38
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wsjuniorhow do i start compiz inside kubuntu?03:40
wsjuniori did compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher menu water &03:41
wsjunioris it right?03:41
wsjuniori can see some effects but im not able to rotate de cube..03:41
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gholmI can't get my SATA drive to recognize in Feisty yet, Edgy works fine.  Edgy eft has a libata v1.2 and feisty fawn has libata v2.2.   Is there anyway to downgrade libata to 1.2 in Fesity?03:41
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tinput the edgy repositories in the sources list03:42
Jucato!compiz | wsjunior03:42
ubotuwsjunior: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:42
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tinthen you can get the version from edgy, don't know how smoothly it'll work though03:42
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fulat2khi folks, i've got a dlink dwl-g122 rev b1 and feisty detects it out of the box.  it even detects the APs.  any idea why i need to add rausb1 to /etc/network/interfaces and do a ifconfig up/down before i can use it?03:42
fulat2kforgot to mention that i'm using knetworkmanager as well03:43
vontuxis is possible for the partition table to be written to incorrectly so that the os believes that the HD is full when it actually is not?03:45
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xjewel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
K-Ryanhmm, ubotu usually knows the packages03:48
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trprhrm.  i get "Failed to connect to SDP Server" when enabling my bluetooth adapter. :\03:54
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scastWell finally did it03:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:56
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hartthomsonanyone have experience with scim/skim?03:58
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K-RyanGratz scast03:58
scastI wonder how I am supossed to install it on Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu.03:58
hartthomsonX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  << when i try to start skim03:58
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K-RyanAlright guys, g'night.04:02
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lontrascast: same way04:03
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scastIt's pointing me to System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager04:04
scastI can't see that on my KDE Menu so I guess it's for Gnome's menu.04:04
lontrascast: ah ...04:04
lontrarestricted-manager - manage non-free hardware drivers04:05
lontrascast: you can install restricted-manager via apt04:05
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lontrascast: then run it by typing restricted-manager in konsole04:05
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BloodyTuxi'm doing a project on linux, does anyone have any input on what's good and what's bad04:18
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donmost of the browsers need to update04:20
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donWhat good is fawn has updated browsers04:22
dwidmannBloodyTux: good: stability, flexibility, freedom, power  -- bad: lack of commercial/vendor support04:22
donya i can play radio now and they dont ask me to update04:22
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BloodyTux:) thanks04:23
hitmanWillyBloodyTux: a lot of hardware is still unsupported and a lot of the drivers that do exist are reverse engineered04:23
donFawn is linux for real04:23
hitmanWillyBloodyTux: nix needs more support from hw manufacturers04:23
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chocobocan someone tell me y my ipod isn't showing up on the desktop?04:24
donYa but I think it is really going to make it04:25
hitmanWillycase in point :)04:25
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mahdichocobo: try refreshing your desktop04:25
mahdiright click > refresh desktop04:25
donI have tried may linux os this one does what I want04:25
chocoboi did but it doesn't work04:25
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mahdiyou sure its mounted?04:25
chocobohow would i figure it out?04:26
chocobogo into media?04:26
mahditry that04:26
chocobothe only unusual thing i see is sdf104:26
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chocoboisn't that a normal media folder though and not my ipod04:26
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chocoboshould it be a pic of an ipod/04:26
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BloodyTuxthanks for the comments, i have to go, ciao04:26
donthey need to aproach Graphics and serious gaming and it will be all you could ask for04:26
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mahdiit should be04:26
chocobosdf1 should be my ipod?04:27
scastNvidia: Checked...04:27
mahdino, your ipod should appear as an icon of an ipod04:27
mahditry typing the following into the Konsole "sudo fdisk -l"04:27
mahdiwithout the quotation marks04:27
chocobokk this is what it gives me04:28
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chocoboit says04:28
chocoboDisk /dev/sde: 300.0 GB, 300069052416 bytes04:28
chocobo255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36481 cylinders04:29
chocoboUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes04:29
chocobo   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System04:29
chocobo/dev/sde1   *           1       36012   289266358+  83  Linux04:29
chocobo/dev/sde2           36013       36481     3767242+   5  Extended04:29
chocobo/dev/sde5           36013       36481     3767211   82  Linux swap / Solaris04:29
chocoboDisk /dev/sdf: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes04:29
chocobo64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 28615 cylinders04:29
chocoboUnits = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes04:29
chocoboDisk /dev/sdf doesn't contain a valid partition table04:29
chocobosdf looks liek it shoudl be my ipod04:29
chocoboits 30g04:29
lontra!tell chocobo about paste04:29
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mahdiit looks like it is, but mine registers as /dev/sda#04:29
hitmanWilly!paste | chocobo04:30
ubotuchocobo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:30
chocoboeh as long as it worksr gith?04:30
DragnslcrAnyone know offhand if Wine can access hardware like a bluetooth adapter?04:30
ejupinhow do i mount my mp3 player in amarok.. a window opens up for the mounting command..?04:30
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lettuceis there an #ubuntu channel?04:31
jttlettuce, yes04:31
chocobohey i tried movin the iso over into the folder and it said access denied :()04:31
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chocobowhat do i do04:32
lontrais there any way that i can tell konqueror to kill just one tab?04:32
mahdichocobo: what iso?04:32
mahdilontra: there is a close tab button all the way to the right of the tabs04:32
jttlontra, icon at far right just about current window04:32
lettucewhat are the beryl channels again?04:32
lontramahdi: no the songbird website froze it up and it's all messed up04:33
chocoboan iso  for mac os for generic hardware04:33
lontramahdi: i meant with a kill command or something04:33
chocoboi try putting it in the folder but it says access denied04:33
mahdilontra: can't kill one tab with kill, just the entire instance of konqueror04:33
jttlontra, cant answer that one04:33
lontramahdi: oh well04:33
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mahdichocobo: type 'mount' into the konsole and look for the sdf04:34
hitmanWillylettuce: #ubuntu-effects04:35
mahdichocobo: you may have to install gtkpod and reinstall the directory tree to get it to be able to read, but that would remove whatever data you have on it04:35
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chocoboman i just wanna be able to simply put it on another computer04:36
chocobothe iso04:36
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chocobothink if i  upload it to my site04:37
chocoboit'll download fast?04:37
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chocobo5 gigs04:37
mahdiiPods are not formatted to be able to carry files in that manner04:37
mahdii suggest uploading it then redownloading it04:37
chocobohow long would that take04:37
chocoboor i could connect to a server04:38
chocobothat i make on the mac04:38
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mahdiit is entirely possible04:38
mahdiis this an entirely separate computer or just a different partition?04:38
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chemicalvampso how do i 'multiplay' a mud game? i think ive done it before with a proxy server04:40
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nirmal<mahdi>: i got my kde with exec startkde04:51
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slicknickwith an an established vpn connection to a samba share, i am unable to open .doc or .xls files with OpenOffice without first saving locally.  any suggestions where to start looking at this issue ?04:51
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nirmalactually i was trying to install ubuntu desktop upon kubuntu and it took gdm and i okayed it04:53
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scastThanks god I got rid of the purple! =D04:54
nirmalhow can i choose the session at welcome screen itself04:54
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lettucei have beryl installed and it works, but I don't have xgl installed. Is that bad?04:55
Jucatonirmal: from GDM (login screen), there should be a Session menu (I think it's at the bottom), where you can choose which Session type to login to. choose KDE04:55
Yorokobilettuce, feisty's Xorg comes with AIGLX built in ... so you're fine04:56
Yorokobiit wouldn't work otherwise04:56
lettucethat freakin' sweet04:56
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intelikeyi just got a devide by zero error on /etc/init.d/rc  line 39 (i think)   >>>    progress=$(($step * $progress_size / $num_steps + $first_step))04:56
intelikeyi have not edited that file.04:56
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lettucei love fiesty04:56
nirmalthe username text field is coming 2/3 off the screen i could not see it04:57
nirmali am to live with kde also as i am doing some local language work04:58
GWillakershas anyone gotten truecrypt to work on 7.04?04:58
nirmallemme  F10 pressed at welcome screen04:58
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nflavais there a default password for root that you need to change after you install?05:01
intelikeynflava no05:01
intelikey!root nflava05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about root nflava - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
intelikey!root | nflava05:01
ubotunflava: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:01
Jucatonflava: short answer, no. read that page for more info ^^^^05:01
nirmalthe user pass which you supply when you install is the admin pass05:02
nflavayeah thats what i thought05:02
nflavaand i typed su in terminal05:02
nflavaand it says auth. failed05:02
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:02
nflavaso i was wondering05:02
nflavaim about to read the page05:02
Jucatothe root user is disabled in Ubuntu.05:02
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GWillakerssudo su05:03
intelikeythe root password is "locked"05:03
nirmalsudo su05:03
nirmaland supply your pass05:03
intelikeythe account is not "disabled"05:03
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Yorokobinflava, you can give root a password by using 'sudo -s' (among other options) to become root then use passwd to change the password.05:03
k31ssim using ubuntu live cd05:03
intelikeynirmal sudo -i05:03
k31sshow can i brownzer my hd files05:03
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dsmith_question: When I click on an app in kubuntu some will show a bouncy image of the icon, whiel others show just a gear. How can I create the icon that matches the one on the desktop?05:04
lettucecan someone give me a link to the beryl channel(s)05:04
nflavachecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:04
intelikeynirmal if you must dubble with su  try sudo su -     << the dash makes it full login env for root.05:04
nflavawhat does that mean after i do a ./configure05:04
Jucatonflava: you have to instsall "build-essential"05:05
nflavatrying to install xchat05:05
Jucato!compile | nflava05:05
ubotunflava: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:05
nflavaok thanks again :)05:05
Jucatolettuce: #ubuntu-effects too05:05
Jucatodsmith_: the gear icon is the generic icon for programs that don't have any icon. usually scripts or some command line program05:06
flaccidtrying to get qemu networking going on feisty. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179472 anyone have any suggestions or a working qemu w/ networking. im trying to use tap05:06
dsmith_jucato: how do I change it? I figured it was default05:06
k31sshow can i brownzer my hd files ???05:06
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jttk31ss, konqueror05:07
Yorokobik31ss, use Konqueror and click on the Media link05:07
Jucatodsmith_: depends. where are you launching it? if it's from the K Menu, you can right-click on the item and select Edit item.05:07
dsmith_some are on the panel05:07
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intelikeyright click05:08
dsmith_ok I see kde menu editor05:09
dsmith_I click on the icon and it takes me to a master icon database05:09
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:10
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nflavahmmm do i have fiesty05:10
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Jucatodsmith_: you can check by typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole05:10
k31ssYorokobi: i clicked and appers to be nothing on that folder =05:11
dsmith_no modules available05:11
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Yorokobik31ss, it probably didn't auto-mount your existing partitions then ...05:11
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k31ssYorokobi:  how can i mount then ?05:12
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intelikey"back in the day"   when i started using linux we had to learn how to mount every thing manually.     mount /dev/<device_node> /<dir/to/mount/on>05:15
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intelikeyit still works wonderfully05:16
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:16
vontuxhello, how do I check for bad disk sectors?05:16
k31ssintelikey: where i type that command ??05:16
jttintelikey, surely it wasn;t that far back :_)05:16
Daisuke_Idovontux: keep using the drive and pray daily?05:16
Yorokobi"you can muck up your permissions/config files" <-- How, exactly?05:16
intelikeyk31ss terminal of your choice05:16
Daisuke_Idothat's what i did anyway.  didn't work05:17
vitordoes anyone know how I set up the built in micorphone on Dell Latitute D84005:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:17
vontuxDaisuke_Ido: gee thanks :P05:17
Daisuke_Idovontux: fsck05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
vontuxDaisuke_Ido: ah05:17
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intelikeyjtt yeah it's been a few years...05:17
Daisuke_IdoFileSystem ChecK (pretty sure that's the acronym)05:17
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vontuxbtw, anyone in here who uses "brutalchess" be careful it may crash and and fill your hd with log files!05:18
lettuceberyl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?05:18
Yorokobivontux, that's why you create a separate partition for /var :)05:18
vontuxYorokobi: hehe, live and learn I guess :)05:18
k31ssintelikey: i cant make that work05:18
intelikeyvontux and pay attention to the disk activity......05:18
k31ssintelikey: what i need to type ?05:19
Daisuke_Idomaybe i should take a look in /var, see what i can get rid of05:19
intelikeyk31ss what are you trying to mount and where ?05:19
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido   ! lib05:19
k31ssintelikey: im trying to mount my 2 IDE HardDrives and my 1 Sata HardDrive05:20
jtt!mount >jtt05:21
YorokobiDaisuke_Ido, if logrotate is (installed and) working correctly, /var/log should stay manageable ...05:21
intelikeyk31ss ok   first find the device nodes you want to mount.    sudo fdisk -l05:21
lettuceberyl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?05:21
intelikeyk31ss then find the dirrectories (or make them) that you wish each mounted on.05:21
Yorokobilettuce, you can change the animation to something less intense05:22
YorokobiWhat's the command to find out if a video card supports direct rendering?05:23
intelikeyk31ss NOTE, mounting a filesystem on a dir. (the only place you can mount them) will hide anything already in that dir.  (except unionfs...)    so don't mount anything on /bin      and preferably not on any dir that contains files.05:23
k31ssi found hda1 ...05:24
k31sshow can i mount then ?:?05:24
intelikeysudo mkdir /media/blah ;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/blah05:25
scott_hda1 sound like your main drive not the second drive just a guess05:25
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jarn2Forwarding a port on my router doesn't make me vulnerable, correct?05:25
intelikeyalso entering the mount command with no args will list mounted fs's.... some of them anyway05:26
Yorokobijarn2, depends on the port and what's answering the port05:26
k31ssi mounted but now05:26
scastWooo, I have sound!05:26
k31sswhen i try acess /media05:26
k31ssfrom kokeror05:26
k31ssi get not acess error05:26
jarn2Yorokobi: Well, it was a port so I could access some files when I'm not at home. There is nothing sensitive in the files, it's just my music.05:26
intelikey!ntfs | k31ss05:26
ubotuk31ss: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:26
jarn2Yorokobi: What do you mean by what's answering the port?05:27
Yorokobijarn2, the program that is listening on the port you're forwarding05:27
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Daisuke_Idointelikey: definitely not lib05:27
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido :)05:27
jarn2Yorokobi: Umm... it's kpf I think.05:27
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido that's what i said05:28
Daisuke_Idoand logrotate seems to be okay05:28
Daisuke_Idointelikey: i know, i was agreeing05:28
jarn2Yorokobi: All I did was right-click and enable sharing in Konqueror. Then I need to forward the port but I haven't done it yet.05:28
Daisuke_Idojarn2: take a look at gnump3d05:28
Daisuke_Idoand a dynamic dns service05:28
Daisuke_Idotwo thumbs up for mobile music goodness05:29
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido every now and again i blank /var/log   "if i'm sure i don't need the back logs..."05:29
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k31ssapper to mounted all05:29
k31ssbut i still cant brownse ;/media dir05:29
jarn2Yorokobi: Well, do you know if just forwarding one for use by kpf is secure?05:30
intelikeyk31ss umask05:30
Daisuke_IdoYorokobi: true, but if he's just looking to do music, set up gnump3d with a required username/password, operates via a web interface05:30
Yorokobijarn2, nope. I haven't looked at kpf (or whatever it Konqueror uses)05:30
jtt!pm >jtt05:30
k31ssintelikey: what's that ?05:30
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: That makes it needs a password?05:31
intelikeyk31ss assuming it's not a real fs   i.e. M$ ntfs    you'll need to supply a umask to the mount command or it will default to root only access.     you can remount     sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mount/point05:31
intelikeyinturpret /mount/point  ^05:32
Daisuke_Idoyou can set it to require one, yes05:32
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intelikeyk31ss i hope you do know that writing to ntfs "may" cause problems.05:32
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intelikey"can" be dangerous05:33
intelikey!ntfs | k31ss again.05:33
ubotuk31ss again.: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:33
k31ssintelikey: i only want to play my mp3 =/05:33
intelikeyread only access is fine.05:33
k31ssubotu: i used that, it said that all partitions are now mounted05:33
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intelikey!ntfs-3g | k31ss05:34
ubotuk31ss: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:34
intelikey!fuse | k31ss05:34
ubotuk31ss: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:34
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intelikey!bot | k31ss05:34
ubotuk31ss: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:34
flaccidany qemu users here with networking going?05:34
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: How do I use it once I've installed it?05:35
k31ss=/ i used the script https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions05:35
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k31ssbut i cant't acess the partitions05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:36
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: It tells me I need to change the logfile line but it doesn't tell me what file I need to edit it in...05:36
Yorokobiintelikey, a quote from Larry Wall comes to mind, "Let me repeat for the logically impaired."05:36
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scastI think I just got ignored by a bot! =O05:37
intelikeyYorokobi yeah something along that line.05:37
intelikeyi think i'm going to tender my resignation, cat random to all hd's, and walk.05:38
Yorokobihehe, intelikey05:38
Daisuke_Idojarn2: /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf to be exact05:40
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, I found it. Thanks. :)05:41
hitmanWillyintellikey: cat complaint.txt > /dev/null05:41
intelikeythat's what the higher up seem to do.  yep yep yep...05:41
Daisuke_Idojarn2: .password in your mp3 directory05:42
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: I got it I think, thanks. :)05:42
intelikeyi could get this guy fired so easily.....   and probably should...    but wont.05:42
Yorokobiintelikey, sounds like you have a BOFH05:43
scasthttp://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ is this still up to date?05:43
intelikeyand an attitude.05:44
Daisuke_Idowell i dunno barbie, let's take a look there, shall we?05:44
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:44
Daisuke_Idoit has feisty, i'd say it's pretty up to date, huh?05:44
scastYou never know ^_^05:44
Daisuke_Idoi apologize, i need to lay off watching scrubs :\05:45
dsmith_gee.. I was in a sore mood today as well. Someone in the office wanted to go back to using Outlook after we upgraded to TB.05:45
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intelikeyDaisuke_Ido i was writing a script but it got out dated before i finished writing it....05:46
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: Greatest show ever.05:46
dsmith_when asked why, they said "I dont like the colors" & "It's not M$ product, so its some 3rd party crap"05:46
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Daisuke_Idodsmith_: so they're idiots.  rename the icon and tell them it's a new version05:47
Daisuke_Idothat's how i got mom to switch to firefox05:47
dsmith_LOL, hey I thought of that!05:47
Yorokobifunny, very funny05:47
dsmith_I evern got FF to look like IE05:47
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Daisuke_Idowhy would you want to?05:48
dsmith_and TB to appear like OL05:48
Daisuke_Idowell, to ease the switch05:48
dsmith_idiots, not liking mozilla05:48
jarn2Daisuke_Ido: After changing the appropriate settings on the conf, when I try to run it I get a spam of Size mismatch on TLEN at /usr/share/perl5/gnump3d/readtags.pm line 4005:48
intelikeydsmith_ well colour me an idiot then...05:48
dsmith_dont like mozilla?05:49
dsmith_what do you use?05:49
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Daisuke_Idoit's not not liking mozilla, it's drinking microsoft's poison kool-aid - THEN asking for more!05:49
Daisuke_Idojarn2: not something i've ever seen05:50
hitmanWillydillo's pretty nifty too :)05:50
Daisuke_Idostop and restart it?05:50
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dsmith_Q: has anyone upgraded from 6.10 successfully?05:50
Daisuke_Idosay...  /etc/init.d/gnump3d stop && /etc/init.d/gnump3d start05:50
intelikeyi can stand dillo05:50
Daisuke_Idodsmith_: yes, and on a laptop, too05:50
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:51
dsmith_I will wait a few months then do so....05:51
intelikeydsmith_ by successfully do yo mean with no issues at all ?05:51
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dsmith_intelikey: heh, I mean by not farking my 'puter05:51
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Daisuke_Idoi was actually surprised that the lappy had no issues05:52
intelikeythen everyone that has upgraded, has upgraded successfully....05:52
Daisuke_Idoheck, it even hibernates properly05:52
dsmith_coool, I'll still wait awhile though05:52
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N0Lif3|lappyI'm trying to get my new linksys WPC54G working here on my laptop. I'm follwing a guide that says to do it with ndiswrapper. When I try to install the drivers it'll always say "couldn't open lsbcmds.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 174.05:53
Daisuke_Idoyeah, i've heard some horror stories05:53
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YorokobiI'm a geek :)05:53
Daisuke_Idoisn't that an rt2500 chipset card?05:53
N0Lif3|lappyI don't know, but apparently it works05:53
Daisuke_Idoand the driver has to be IN the directory you're installing from05:53
N0Lif3|lappywell it is suppose to, at least05:54
intelikeyimageek ?   havent seen him in a while...05:54
YorokobiOpenBSD 4.1 to be exact, not that anyone really cares ... I just like seeing my name in the channel05:54
intelikeyYorokobi that was a good one.....    hehhe heh05:55
dsmith_i've ben trying to get hamachi running, i'm lamost there05:55
dwidmannYorokobi: hehehe05:55
YorokobiYeah, I'm tired and should go to bed now.05:55
dwidmannYorokobi: I've never played with OpenBSD .... what's new with it?05:56
intelikeyi'm ready to order the boxed set of debian etch05:56
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dwidmannintelikey: I already did ... got a nice price on it at discountlinuxdvd (contrary to most online folk they're actually not bad, like $2/dvd or something)05:57
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Yorokobidwidmann, enhancements to PF are what I'm most excited about.05:57
tindwidmann: http://openbsd.org/41.html#new05:57
dwidmannIn fact, I'm running debian right now :O05:57
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YorokobiThanks, tin05:57
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tini'm running debian too, the Kubuntu Feisty flavor!05:58
jarn_Daisuke_Ido: What happens if I shut the computer off?05:59
intelikeyi've got mandrake 10 and buntu dapper "sort of" install here05:59
jarn_Daisuke_Ido: When the router is set to forward the port and the computer is turned off so nothing is at the port, what happens?06:00
Yorokobijarn_, nothing06:00
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Yorokobithe connection will time out06:00
Daisuke_Idojarn_: nothing happens06:00
dwidmanntin: I meant I'm running Etch ... was running Feisty before. Oh well, both seem to have their ups and downs06:00
_3fghow come Kopete doesn't do anything at all?06:00
jarn_Yorokobi: Ah, okay. So when my comp is on they just go straight to the porgram and I'm not vulnerable and when it's off they just time out?06:00
Yorokobijarn_, I would not go so far as no say you're 'not vulnerable' but with the computer off, it won't answer the port.*06:01
intelikeyi say 'sort of' cause it was a hoary installation i upgraded streight to dapper skipping breezy, and had removed all perl* and python*   so by some standards it's not.06:01
Daisuke_Ido_3fg: could you possibly be a little more specific?  that's like going to a mechanic and saying "it doesn't work"06:01
Yorokobi(* unless port knocking w/WOL is enabled)06:02
tindwidmann: name some downs to Feisty...06:02
tinsince i can get every package you can...06:02
tinand you can get every package i can...06:02
_3fgI don't seem to be able to connect06:02
dwidmanntin: ran noticably slower than etch runs06:02
tinthe same kernel?06:02
tinbuilt the same?06:02
jarn_Yorokobi: Well, would I be more vulnerable than I was when the port was not forwarded?06:02
_3fgI put in my account info and it just sits there and doesn't show any of my buddies06:03
Yorokobijarn_, correct.06:03
_3fgit shows the groups though06:03
dwidmanntin: built for the most part alike, different kernel06:03
tinthings like that aren't the distro's fault06:03
jarn_Yorokobi: Wait, I would be? How much more vulnerable?06:03
Daisuke_Idoare they online?06:03
_3fgwell yes06:03
dwidmanntin: probably not, but speed is speed06:03
tini could put the etch repos in my sources and get the same kernel06:03
_3fgit doesn't even add contacts06:03
_3fgthe groups say they have 0 buddies in them06:04
tinand i'd still be "running Feisty"06:04
Daisuke_Idoi ask because it's set by default to only show online contacts06:04
Daisuke_Idoyeah, that's weird06:04
vontuxwhat does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?06:04
Yorokobijarn_, it depends on the program answering the port. If it was written right, not vulnerable.06:04
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Daisuke_Idobut i don't know much about kopete06:04
dwidmanntin: I'm always somewhere inbetween kubuntu and debian. Start with kde-core and build my way up06:04
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jarn_Yorokobi: Okay, supposedly this program was written "right".06:05
jarn_Yorokobi: And that's when the computer is on? Then, assuming he program was written "right", I'm not vulnerable?06:05
hitmanWillyjarn_, stupid question, but are you connecting on the right protocol? ie aim,icq, etc.06:06
tinif ubuntu didn't come around, i'd probly run debian-unstable and kde too06:06
jarn_hitmanWilly: Eh?06:06
Yorokobijarn_, pretty much. I'm a pessimist when it comes to security. (pessimist == paranoid) :)06:06
Daisuke_Idojarn_: it listens on one specific port, so in theory, it will only take traffic directed to that particular port06:06
tinbut i like how many packages on the kubuntu repos have nice integration with the K menu and such06:06
jarn_Yorokobi: And when the computer is off I'm not vulnerable no matter what because connections to that port would just time out?06:06
hitmanWillyjarn_, sorry, wrong person :)06:07
tinsaves me time of building the menu and junk06:07
Daisuke_IdohitmanWilly: i think you were directing that toward _3fg06:07
_3fgyeah, it's the right protocol06:07
_3fgI added someone then talked to them06:07
Daisuke_Idojarn_: unless they have a magic connection that can bind to fairy sockets in dreamland, if the pc's off you're safe06:07
jarn_Daisuke_Ido: Okay.06:08
_3fgbut it didn't add any of them06:08
hitmanWilly_3fg, so its not saving your groups then? hmmm06:08
_3fgI have to add people manually06:08
Daisuke_Idothe words are nonsense, but the tone makes up for it :)06:08
dwidmanntin: Yeah, I do too ... big thing I wanted to play with in Etch was the new crypt setup thing... works well, and performs very smooth, and here I thought it might make things lag or something, nope, not the case.06:08
jarn_Daisuke_Ido and Yorokobi, thanks. I know little/nothing about firewalls and related things.06:08
Daisuke_Idono problem06:08
Yorokobijarn_, the most secure PC is one *not* connected to the Internet :)06:08
Daisuke_Idojust remember, if the pc's off, it's really unlikely to ever be infected06:08
tindwidmann: but you could get that from Feisty, just update your sources06:08
Daisuke_Idoexcept for the aforementioned magic packets06:08
jarn_Yorokobi: But I have other PCs on the network and they're what I'm really worried about. THEY run Windows. :P06:08
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jarn_The other computers on the network wouldn't be vulnerable either by me forwarding a port, would they?06:09
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tinall Kubuntu is is a shiny shell on debian. the base is a linux kernel,debian base system and debian package tools06:10
dwidmanntin: Oh? I meant the crypt setup integrated into the installer though ... functions just like how you would do lvm or raid06:10
tini could build up a feisty system from etch if i wanted to06:10
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tinoh, installer is different story06:10
tinbut i'm sure you could set that same stuff up after the install06:10
Daisuke_Idojarn_: 8888 is forwarded to the pc running gnump3d, then the others should be just fine06:11
tini could also build (down?) an etch system from a Feisty install06:11
dwidmannI'm willing to bet feisty+1 or feisty+2 will probably get the crypt stuff in the installer, no guarentee, but it's a likely possibility06:11
jarn_Daisuke_Ido: Again, even when the comp running it is off?06:11
Daisuke_Idoyep, it will just time out06:12
tinwhat is that stuff?06:12
dwidmannsets up encrypted partitions via dmcrypt ...06:12
intelikeyand the gas company pays the land owned $1.55/m ft^3 of gas.   amounts to about 200 per 6 months06:12
intelikeysorry wrong channel06:12
dwidmannintelikey: I was going to say, that seemed random06:13
BellaireLinuxN3rI thought it was a joke or something06:13
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intelikeydwidmann yeah kinda. sorta.   i was just ranting to this guy...   joined here and didn't ^X back to the other....06:14
tini don't see encrypted partitions as high priority for ubuntu devs though06:14
vontuxwhat does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?06:14
tinhumans tend to forget things, including passphrases ;-)06:14
dwidmanntin: no, but the work is basically already done, shouldn't take too much work to pull it down from debian06:14
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tinand since ubuntu is linux for human beings06:14
dwidmanntin: if I were to forget my passphrase, I'd, I'd cry.06:15
dwidmanngig upon countless gig, can't afford to lose my stuff :(06:15
tinyeah, i'm just thinking that for ubuntu's target audience (everyone), most of them aren't going to need it, and even the option will make confusion06:16
vontuxdwidmann: log in via live-cd and recover that way?06:16
intelikeydwidmann better do backups then...06:16
tindwidmann: exactly!06:16
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dwidmannvontux: I was thinking about the future: and if I were to have such troubles, a live cd would be of no use,  the hypothetical scenario being that I forget my LUKS passphrase06:17
tini would be suprised to see it on the server install in 7.10 though06:17
tinwouldn't be**06:17
dwidmannintelikey: I don't exactly have the capacity to do so, but I do have some backed up, and I can get some of it back06:17
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intelikeydwidmann anything on a "single" source is not safe.   hd's die  dvd's get scratched,stolen... if it's worth keeping it's worth keeping twice.06:18
dwidmannintelikey: yeah, no doubt06:19
dwidmannHaving to re-rip all of my cds would scare me though. That would take forever and a day06:19
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intelikeythat ole spear chicking music will blow your computer up anyway.06:20
dwidmannintelikey: I've got some of it backed up in two or even three places ....06:20
dwidmannspear chicking? wtf? ?_?06:21
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intelikeychuckin'   sorry.  typo06:21
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intelikeyheh,  waithing on an hd to become free...  until umount /dev/hdb ;do sync ;done06:26
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UltraBreadwhats wrong with gnome06:32
hitmanWillyi could write a book on that one06:33
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UltraBreadfor n00bs, what is wrong with it06:33
hitmanWillyfor newbies, it actually might be alright...but that's where it ends06:34
UltraBreadwell let's say what am i missing out?06:34
UltraBreadbeside nautilus, everything is fine to me06:34
hitmanWillythen stick with it if you like it :) i like kde better for various reasons, but i still use quite a few gnome apps06:36
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UltraBreadlike firefox? :D06:36
JucatoUltraBread: there is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. it all depends on people's preferences. different people, different preferences. it all boils down to choice.06:36
Jucato(Firefox is *not* a GNOME app)06:36
UltraBreaditi sn't but what libraries it uses06:37
Jucatoit uses GTK+ (on Linux)06:37
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UltraBreadthat doesn't sound like qt to me06:38
Jucatoneither is it GNOME06:38
UltraBreadgnome uses gtk06:38
UltraBreadthus firefox = gnome06:38
hitmanWillyjust because something doesn't use qt, doesn't make it a gnome app06:38
JucatoXfce uses GTK. is it GNOME?06:38
deathguppieGnome is built on GTK.. and so is Firefox.. but Firefox actually has a wrapper for GTK called XUL06:38
intelikeythere is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. <<<<   ah some would differ.   gnome is one to those things that..... i'm off topic again aren't i.06:38
JucatoUltraBread: GTK = the GIMP ToolKit06:38
Jucatointelikey: we've all been offtopic :)06:39
deathguppieSo technically Firefox is actually built on XUL06:39
cjehi guys, I am a relatively new kubuntu user.  I am trying to delete files on a relatively fresh install of Edgy Kubuntu.  There is no trash icon on my desktop!  heh.  I found the trash dir, but rmdir -Rf ~path/to/trash didn't work, saying the dirs were non-empty.  Is there a graphical tool that could help me?  Thanks in advance.06:39
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JucatoUltraBread: Firefox uses GTK on Linux. that doesn't make it a GNOME app06:39
DaveQBhi all, I am trying to remaster the Kubuntu Desktop iso. I can't find the usr/share/wallpapaer dir in the squashfs. Where does Kubuntu set the wallpaper from ?06:39
Jucatonot all GTK apps are GNOME apps06:39
UltraBreadnone are kde apps06:40
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deathguppiecje: are you using beryl or xgl??06:40
Jucatocje: shouldn't there be a Trash icon on your panel by default?06:40
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cjedeathguppie: I am not using either berly or xgl06:40
xmb^^ free downloads06:40
UltraBreadcje: you can add trash on panel if it isn't there06:41
pcloginOMG please help  Linux is killing me.  HOW do you install a program? The instructions say to enter into terminal MAKE, then MAKE INSTALL but this simply will not work06:41
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Jucatoxmb: please don't spam06:41
cjeUltraBread:  how do I add it please?06:41
sred13PClogin is now SRED1306:41
UltraBreadshameless advertising06:41
deathguppiecje:hmm... just a sec06:41
xmbJucato: Hmmm, it's technically not spam......06:41
cjepclogin: what version are you using?06:41
xmbIt's not advertising either.06:41
xmbIt's just free stuff...06:41
sred13ubuntu 6.1006:41
DaveQBsred13  what are you trying to install ?06:42
xmbBan me anyways.06:42
sred13Trying to install NDISwrapper06:42
cjepclogin:  There is a nice graphical installer06:42
UltraBreadcje: right click on empty spot on the main panel -> add...06:42
deathguppiecje: it should be on the lower right hand of your panel06:42
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:42
Jucatosred13: seen that guide? ^^^06:42
sred13got it untarred but I it seems like the files are for a different version of Ubuntu06:42
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cjedeathguppie:  heh, I guess I feel silly06:43
sred13Which is better?  MadWifi or NDiswrapper06:43
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deathguppieheh.. it's ok.. I actually had too look06:43
cjedeathguppie:  thanks for pointing out the obvious.  My apologies for not seeing it!!06:43
deathguppiecje:actually I'm just trying this comming from Gentoo for the last few years..06:44
cjedeathguppie:  interesting.06:44
cjedeathguppie:  I am coming over from SuSE06:44
xmbdeathguppie: why gentoo -> kubuntu ?06:44
deathguppienot sure if I'm going to stay, because the build environment kinda sucks.. and I'm working on a game using Crystal Space06:44
deathguppiexmb:just wanted to see if it really could be as easy as just clicking a few buttons..06:45
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deathguppieIf I just wanted a desktop it would be..06:45
xmbdeathguppie: ah right, well it is....06:45
Jucato(it is... if that's what you want)06:45
cjedeathguppie:  thanks to deathguppie and everyone else who tried to help me.  I'm going to go home how.  See ya.06:45
xmbdeathguppie: If you want a source-based disro which is better than gentoo, try sourcemage.06:46
deathguppiexmb:sourcemage is missing a lot of packages.. I'm downloading Saybayon right now06:46
hitmanWillydeathguppie, well, after gentoo, just about anything seems easy :)06:46
JucatohitmanWilly: even LFS? :D06:46
deathguppiehitmanWilly: unless you are trying to compile something..06:47
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deathguppieGentoo's build system is really stable06:47
Jucatowell, Gentoo was built for compiling :)06:47
hitmanWillydeathguppie, i came over from slack myself06:47
Jucatomost binary distros have their own stable build systems to produce binary packages.06:47
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deathguppiehitmanWilly: that was my first distro back in 1996 :)06:48
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ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:48
xmbdeathguppie: you might aswell just reinstall gentoo then, sabayon is the same thing06:48
Jucato(gentoo users would beg to disagree though)06:49
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deathguppiexmb: actually Saybayon has a full binary install disk06:49
xmbMost gentoo users are idiots.06:49
hitmanWillySabayon is gentoo for dummies...06:49
deathguppiexmb: thanks06:49
xmbdeathguppie: That makes no sense.06:49
xmbdeathguppie: Don't thank me, I'm one also.06:49
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:49
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deathguppiewell.. I'm not here to talk about Gentoo.. or Saybayon though06:50
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deathguppieI was actually hoping for help with my tool chain06:50
deathguppieon kubuntu06:50
deathguppiethere are a lot of missing packages that I need.. one of which is Freetype206:50
xmbI'm sick of hearing about 31337 CFLAGS like, --lasers-and-smoke, and --omg-optimized06:50
deathguppiexmb:even ubuntu uses custom flags when they need them.. and there are a very few occasions when they do make sense..06:51
xmbdeathguppie: :-)06:52
deathguppieanyone know where to find a package for Freetype2??06:52
Jucato!info libfreetype6-dev06:52
ubotulibfreetype6-dev: FreeType 2 font engine, development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 625 kB, installed size 2980 kB06:52
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Jucatoor drop the -dev if you don't need the headers06:52
deathguppieubotu: thanks06:52
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:52
hitmanWillywow, that's new06:53
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Jucatodeathguppie: apt-cache search, apt:/ (in Konqueror), and http://packages.ubuntu.com are helpful in searching for packages06:53
hitmanWillyor synaptic's search works pretty good too06:54
deathguppieubotu: actually it may install freetype2 but I can't find it on the system and neither can my config file..06:54
Jucatoor Adept :)06:54
Jucatodeathguppie: you're talking to a bot06:54
deathguppieJucato: bots can be sexy.. heh.. :)06:55
Jucatodeathguppie: you mean ./configure is complaining? did you install the -dev package then?06:55
deathguppienp.. I'll do that06:55
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deathguppieJucato: usually I don't need the header files though..06:56
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deathguppieI just need the libs installed06:56
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Jucatodeathguppie: for compiling, most of the time you do06:56
Jucatoon Kubuntu, at least06:56
Jucato(there's not distinction between foo and foo-dev in Gentoo, of course)06:56
deathguppiesometimes.. it depends06:56
scastStupid Internet >_>06:57
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:57
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deathguppieJucato: that is because everything is compiled..06:57
Jucatodeathguppie: exactly06:58
scastIt's the same process in 6.06 and in 7.04?06:58
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Jucatoscast: mostly, except there's no PHP 4 in Feisty I think06:58
deathguppieapache is easy..06:59
Jucatodeathguppie: anyway, if you run into more ./configure problems about missing headers/libs, try instaling -dev versions of the needed package06:59
deathguppieLDAP through SSL can be a pain though :) heh06:59
deathguppiejucato.. I'll give it a try.. thanks.. guess I've been using source for too long06:59
N0Lif3|lappyMy laptop can't seem to detect my Linksys WPC54G wireless card. I have it plugged in, but can't be found with "dmesg." Also, it isn't lighting up either.07:00
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_3fgany way I can make firefox conform to kde's settings?07:00
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Daisuke_Idohmm, it seems that the "suggested tracks" dynamic playlist no longer works properly in amarok 1.4.507:00
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Jucato_3fg: like?07:00
_3fgit still acts like I'm using GNOME07:00
Daisuke_Idouh, yeah07:01
_3fglike the mac-like toolbar doesn't work with FF07:01
Daisuke_Idouse konqueror instead07:01
Jucato_3fg: it really wont07:01
Daisuke_Idothat's about your only option07:01
_3fgit sucks07:01
_3fgk, I'll just keep using Opera then07:01
Daisuke_Idoyeah, but FF isn't tied to any one DE07:01
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Jucatoalthough it's very much tied to one Toolkit07:01
kubuntu_user07hi all07:01
Daisuke_Idooh yes07:01
_3fgKonqueror is a failure of a browser07:01
kubuntu_user07quick question about kubuntu 7.0407:01
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N0Lif3|lappy_3fg: did you get the mac-like toolbar working in Opera?07:02
Daisuke_Idono, actually konqueror's pretty decent07:02
kubuntu_user07i read somewhere ubuntu 7.04 had compiz installed by default does kubuntu 7.04?07:02
Daisuke_Idosame backend as safari07:02
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Daisuke_Idonot installed by default, no07:02
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_3fgI did not, but since Konqueror sucks I'll just use the best option07:02
Jucatohe left before he got an answer :)07:02
Jucatokubuntu_user07: the answer is no07:02
kubuntu_user07closed wrong thing stupid windows07:02
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kubuntu_user07ok does ubuntu 7.04?07:03
N0Lif3|lappyKonqueror is fine. what don't you like about it. 3fg07:03
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_3fgwell, I wasn't able to get mouse gestures to work, likely because my mouse is a touchpad and it isn't fully supported07:03
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_3fgit's slow07:03
_3fgnah, the gmail thing doesn't bother me07:03
kubuntu_user07so copiz is not installed by default on either distro?07:03
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Jucatohm... KDE has support for system wide (not only Konqueror) gestures07:03
N0Lif3|lappy_3fg: lol, mouse gestures work fine for< me in konqueror07:03
_3fgI know07:03
Daisuke_Idorendering's nice and speedy, gestures are no problem...07:04
_3fgI'm pretty sure it's my mouse07:04
_3fgit randomly stops loading pages07:04
Daisuke_Idothen it's not konqueror07:04
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=== Jucato doesn't know how to use gestures though... :/
N0Lif3|lappy3fg, change the settings to use the second clicker07:04
_3fgno, but the mouse gestures DO work in Opera07:04
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_3fgand I tried all the settings, N0Lif307:04
Daisuke_Idonot the ones that work though :P07:05
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renespricht hier jemand deutsch?07:05
Jucato!de | rene07:05
uboturene: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:05
renethx :-)07:05
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bill_Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch.07:07
_3fgbut yeah, since my mousepad isn't supported by the kernel07:07
Jucato!de | bill_07:07
ubotubill_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:07
_3fgmouse touchpad thingy07:07
_3fgmouse gestures only work in Opera07:08
bill_hey, is there a way for me to play wma's?07:08
bill_lol, I know, I was just telling him I speak a bit of german07:08
Jucato!w32codecs | bill_07:08
ubotubill_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs07:08
Jucato(or kmplayer)07:09
_3fgI need to go to the store07:09
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deathguppiehey.. ubotu pm'd me.. you thinks it's a girl?? .. heh07:11
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Jucatoit is an it :)07:11
deathguppieya.. rain on my glory.. see if I care..07:12
underdog5004deathguppie, that means that someone wants you to know something w/o spamming the main channel07:12
deathguppiewhat if your wrong.. what if it happens to be one of those hot Stepford wives??07:12
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deathguppie<ubotu>Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:14
deathguppiesee.. isn't that sweet...07:14
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deathguppieoh wait.. I just got this new PM from ubotu...07:15
deathguppie<ubotu> oh.. my... this heat sink is really seaming me up.. can you help me get this cover off???07:16
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deathguppiebow chicka bow wow...07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eww - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
underdog5004rofl....at deathguppie....not with him07:16
Daisuke_Idohmm.  the bot should really know something about eww.07:17
Daisuke_Idoespecialy in regards to that07:17
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epimethgoooood morning!07:17
purpleposeidonepimeth: maybe for you :b07:19
epimethwhy? whats wrong, purpleposeidon?07:19
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purpleposeidonepimeth: the sun has a nasty habbit of being on only one side of the earth a time07:20
epimethhaven't we decided on some sort of earth standard time yet?07:21
Daisuke_Idowell, yeah, the outside.  life would be very difficult if it shone on the inside.  or... we'd be extra crispy mole-men07:21
epimethnot really... look at beach bums... they're in the sun all day and they aren't crispy... just super tan... damn, I'm in the wrong business...07:22
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epimeththe weatherman said the weather would be awesome today... :-(07:22
Daisuke_Idoah, but if the sun were INSIDE the earth, it would be a great deal closer to those beach bums, and they would probably have a complexion like a cheap leather handbag07:23
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hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, would have? :)07:23
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ben23hi, I am trying to set up ssl with apache 2 in feisty, but apache2-ssl-certificate is missing, and I don't know how to install it07:23
Daisuke_IdohitmanWilly: touche.07:24
ben23I noticed there is a bug report for that also07:24
epimethnow we're just talking physical impossibility... if the sun were inside the earth the earth would have imploded under the sun's gravitation feild long ago!  lets stick to there being sun indoors for the time being07:24
epimethlaunchpad or sun-drivers ?07:24
epimethI hear it comes prepackaged with java07:25
Daisuke_Idoepimeth: it may be impossible, but that doesn't mean it can't happen!07:25
epimethmmm... coffee07:25
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epimethsorry to dissapoint, but I haven't hooked up a mic... you'll have to settle for silence on my end07:26
hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, happy now? :)07:26
epimethohmygod!  its a ghost! run!!!07:26
Daisuke_Idonow i need a smoke before bed07:26
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epimethahoy flo07:30
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wolferinewhats good to use after tovid, for making the menus and burning to a DVD?07:31
floepimeth: hows it goin07:32
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floi love ubuntu.  usin it on my imac07:32
epimethnot bad... trying to figure out how to patch my sound card... stupid amazing ultra new laptop07:33
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flois there any way to installall software thru synaptic without having to select each?07:39
Jucatoflo: you just have to select the package that you want and it automatically selects anything else that it needs07:40
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epimethjucato.... I have no idea what to do!  I have a c file here from also that is supposed to fix my sound... there is absolutely no menion of how to apply the patch!  or at least not that I noticed...07:43
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Mussorgskywhy changing the gamma correction does nothing?07:44
epimethJucato: found it... arg... I *really* don't want to do all this07:44
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dxdtIs there a way to make Konqueror show tiny previews of the movie the same way Ubuntu does with movie clips?07:45
Grape_JuicePrint out photos of the movie and tape them to your screen. :p07:46
epimethwtf is Katapult?07:46
Jucato!katapult | epimeth07:46
ubotuepimeth: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.07:46
Jucato(once you learn how it works, you'll be saying "wtf did I only learn about this now!")07:46
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Jucatoepimeth: oh, it's installed by default already...07:47
dxdtGrape_Juice, not helpful07:47
Grape_JuiceSorry, I'm weird. :>07:47
Jucato(and on a fresh Kubuntu install, running by default)07:47
epimethsoooo much cooler than alt+f207:47
Jucatoof course :)07:47
Grape_JuiceStupid keyboard shortcuts. :<07:47
Grape_JuiceThey make you reach all the way across the keyboard. :<07:48
Grape_JuiceI"M LAZY!!! Too much work. :<07:48
epimethstupid keyboard shortcuts??? you crazy?  I *hate* mice07:48
Jucatoaren't you glad they're so configurable? :)07:48
Grape_JuiceAlt + SpaceBar07:48
epimethbut thats exactly it, picking up my hand to go to the mouse is too much work for me :-)07:48
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epimethleft thumb: lalt, right thumb: space... whats so hard about that?07:49
Jucatodxdt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 scrolldown to the part for Kubuntu Dapper. Video previews07:49
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Jucatodxdt: Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files.07:49
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dxdthmmm OK, cool.  I figured since the videos could already play, that I wouldn't need some codecs or anything but meh I'll install the package and see what it does, thanks!07:50
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epimethgreat... now even if I *had* sound I couldn't hear anything07:52
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_3fghow can I configure my mouse settings?08:00
_3fgit keeps clicking every time I touch the damn pad08:00
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posingaspopularso, my wireless pci card wont show in xubuntu feisty when i do lspci or try to connect to the net (no response in #xubuntu). what should i do?08:08
_3fgwell feisty didn't work for me at all, wireless card, sound, etc08:09
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_3fghow do I text edit a file as root?08:13
_3fgsudo _____ /file08:13
julianothe game cube is very slow in my machine, whats?08:13
julianothe version 7.04 is a good version?08:14
_3fgfeisty fawn?08:15
_3fgbarely worked for me, so I downgraded08:15
julianoanyone use this version here?08:15
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Lynourejuliano: Yes, many08:16
julianois good?08:16
Lynourejuliano: I have been using it since before beta. I like it, but mind you, I have no experience on upgrading to it.08:16
_3fgLynoure: does Kubuntu use xorg.conf the same way ubuntu does?08:17
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Lynourejuliano: For me Basket and (easily fixable) Palm sync made it well worth switching to from Dapper08:17
Lynoure_3fg: The only real difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is that one has KDE and other has Gnome, so yes.08:18
_3fgthen how do I edit something as root?08:18
_3fgI can't figure out the command to use KDE apps instead of Gnome apps to edit stuff08:19
Jucato_3fg: right-click on the file in Konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as root. or press Alt+F2 and enter "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (for example)08:20
Lynoure_3fg: kdesu kate filename08:20
LynoureJucato: :)08:20
_3fgkdesu, that's it08:20
Jucatogksudo for GNOME, kdesu for KDE08:20
epimethand make sure that when things are installed to the menu automatically to change any "gksu" to "kdesu"08:21
epimethie: NTFS Configuration Tool08:21
_3fghm, how do I change my mouse's driver/08:22
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jkjkIs there an easy way to install Gnome on Kubuntu so that i can choose between KDE & Gnome when logging in via KDM ?08:24
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Jucatojkjk: yes. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome08:25
jkjkJucato: Thanks!08:26
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dac_password for wallet invalid, what can I do?08:30
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xushihi all, i want to install kubuntu on my HD, which is divided into C:\ and D:\. C:\ has windows on it. I want to replace D:\ with kubuntu. But i remember back in the old days that said the OS had to be in the first X bites of the hard drive or something.. will i have a problem?08:49
xushiboot sector *08:49
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Sesshoumaruanybody here with ubuntu 7.04?  i need help with wine08:54
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jbrouhardSesshoumaru: More than likely, everyone here runs Fiesty Fawn...08:57
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: well.. i need to know why wine isn't working08:58
jbrouhardSesshoumaru: WINE"s an emulator.. might help more if I knew what app you were trying to run08:58
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: i have reinstalled ubuntu and wine a bunch of times08:58
jbrouhardSesshoumaru: are you trying to run a specific windows app ?08:59
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: steam08:59
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jbrouhardSteam ?08:59
jbrouhardGot a linky ?09:00
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: steampowered.com09:00
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: steam works good with wine09:00
CarinArrhey.. i have a bit of a problem if anyone could help me. I had the nvidia drivers off nvidia's website installed, and they were working perfectly, but i saw the nvidia-glx-new package and thought i'd give it a shot. I uninstalled the other nvidia drivers and installed the package, but no kernel module seems to have been installed, and when i restarted the computer i couldn't start x (which is fair enough cause it can't find an nvidia kernel module), so 09:00
CarinArrbloody hell.. didn't realise i'd typed that much;)09:00
jbrouhardSteam is like GameSpy huh ?09:01
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: (<_<).. no09:01
jbrouhardLooks like it ;)09:02
jbrouhardLemme see if it works here09:02
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: you need steam to play games like half-life and counter-strike09:02
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jbrouhard<-- in a gaming clan and most of my members play CS:S... They never mentioned Steam09:02
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: wine just doesn't install right, and theres no shortcuts liek it never fully installs09:03
jbrouharddownload is a .msi09:03
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: i tried exe and msi from different sites09:03
jbrouhardWell, i was able to install it09:04
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: it always get errors09:04
jbrouhardonly errors I'm getting09:05
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: its weird cause i had all this stuff before and everything worked09:05
jbrouhardare missing fonts09:05
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: you have ubuntu 7.04?09:05
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: the fonts error is simple..   WHY ME!?09:07
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jbrouhardSesshoumaru: I can't READ anything.  the buttons are colored out (as if the text isn't there, simply)09:07
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: you have to put tahoma font in the wine fonts directory09:09
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: but my problem is that i can't even start the installer without errors09:09
jbrouhardWhat error09:10
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: with exe i get error... with msi i get no response at all09:10
jbrouhardOpen WIne File09:11
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: the file 'C:\windows\temp\glf7db.tmp' could not be opened09:11
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jbrouhardThat's weird.. i didn't have that issue09:12
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: i opened winefile09:12
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: and the .tmp name is different everytime09:13
Sesshoumarujbrouhard:  i think my computer isn't configered right.. also i think my IDE cable is bad09:14
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Moo-CAn someone help me? Where can I change the screen resolution? I can't find it from system settings09:15
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JucatoMoo-: System Settings -> Monitor & Display?09:15
Moo-Jucato: I can't see that anywhere09:16
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: i got the msi working through winefile09:16
Moo-jaaroo: I remember that I have seen that, but now it just isn't there09:16
Jucatocheck if you have the package called "kde-guidance" installed09:16
jbrouhardSesshoumaru: So did it install ?09:17
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: yeah.. but still, somethings not right // just a feeling (<_<)09:18
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Sesshoumarujbrouhard: wine did not create any shortcuts for steam..09:21
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intelikeyi just used the dapper live cd and let it do everything automatic and the system was installed... but unbootable.   it didn't install grub on the first hd09:26
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: Fatal Error: Cound not load module 'bin/vgui2.dll'09:26
Sesshoumarujbrouhard: it must be my computer like a bad cable or something..09:27
jbrouharddoh.. he left before I could respond :(09:27
intelikeyndiswarper ?09:27
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intelikeywhat package to i remove to get rid of all the gnome stuff?   err actually all the ubuntu-desktop stuff ?      or is there a simple way ?09:32
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fdovingintelikey: if you use aptitude remove, i belive it will tell you some packges were installed as depenencies, and suggest their removal.09:33
fdovingintelikey: if not, i think most of gnome depend on libgnome2-0, not sure though.09:35
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intelikeyk   ty09:35
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akrushm... KDE4 Alpha to be released today? :)09:35
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Moo-Now I got the right resolution back, but the font size in adept is way too small to read, how do I fix those fonts and how did all these changed suddenly?09:37
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fdovingakrus: no, it'll be tagged the 3rd.09:38
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akrustwo days to live without KDE4 T_T09:40
akrusI'm likely going to die09:40
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akrussomeone already upgraded to Gutsy?09:40
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Moo-That problem fixed, now the next one, I finaly got the Distribution Upgrade tool to fork but it jams on preparingstep after fetching 54 of 62 files09:44
renatoHi, I am on feisty, I have an ati card and two screen and I have set it up as a "big desktop". The setup was working under edgy. The Big Destop setup is working untill I log in, then it switches back to "clone mode" where the second screen clones the first, so ti seems to be some kubuntu related setting that makes it working this way. Anybody has been working this same issue out?09:46
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codonilAny idea where i can find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum ?09:49
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renatoit looks like most of the people are asleep.....09:51
codonileven the website is down09:51
RytmenPinnenthere is a problem with my packet handler09:52
RytmenPinnenit says its allready in use but I just booted up09:52
fdoving!adept fix | rytmenpinnen09:53
uboturytmenpinnen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:53
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fdovingrenato: mergedfb or xinerama?09:53
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renatofdloving: mergedfb09:55
renatofdloving: xinerama is deadly slow and no 3d09:55
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renatoif I check on the settings (my screens are both 1600x1200) I see I can select a 3200x1200 which should do if it was not for the fact that if I try that the setting panel crashes. where does that panel stores it's setting? (no, it is not xorg.conf)09:57
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codonilI can't find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum anywhere...10:00
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codonilmaybe I'll just use the torrent to verify data10:01
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alexanderHiya guys. Anyone know of a good downloading program for music10:02
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lipsgerman or english10:04
alexanderenglish prefferable10:04
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:05
_StefanS_du bist ein berliner10:05
alexandermein deutsch ist nicht so Gut10:05
_StefanS_or something..10:05
_StefanS_hey Jucatohhh10:05
alexanderAnyone have a downloading program in English?10:06
Jucatohi _StefanS_ssssss :)10:06
lipsmy problem is that my extern mouse does not work under ubuntu i'm using a laptop and the touchpad works perfect10:06
alexanderIm using a laptop now, and my mouse works10:07
_StefanS_lips: is it a bluetooth mouse?10:07
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alexandernot cordless :D10:07
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lipsno its a normal usbmouse not cordless10:08
alexandermine aswell10:08
alexandershould work10:08
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lipsi dont know i recognised that it doesnt :-P10:08
lipseven the red light isnt working10:09
alexanderwhat brand is it?10:09
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lipsnothing special10:09
alexanderI had the same problem on my server10:09
lipsjust a simple mouse 2buttons and a wheel10:09
lipsbut it is not so urgent, because im using openSuse and i just want to test other distributions10:10
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lipsbut how do you fix it10:11
RytmenPinnenFinally kubuntu is giving me a slack, The package manager is working again and I could install mp3 codecs. Now its just the nvidia drivers left10:12
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ubuntuhi @ll10:15
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dev_How to change boot splash image ??10:17
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ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork10:17
dev_let me try out :)10:17
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h4wk-desktopWhere is the 'Alternate' CD's partitioner??10:21
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Jucatoh4wk-desktop: it's a text-based partitioner. there's no GUI to control it. you have enter values manually10:22
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h4wk-desktopYes i know Jucato - I cant run live CD to use the partion manager there - So Where is the text based one , I am in the cd welcome page now.10:23
Jucatoh4wk-desktop: you will have to go through the installation steps. or I think you could choose expert mode so that you could choose the partitioning step directly10:25
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Nookie^hi! is there any way to install kubuntu with no apps installed.. none office, none games etc.. just clean desktop?10:30
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imaginehmm prolly10:30
|lostbyte|Nookie^, yes, install the desktop cd and remove them.10:30
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|lostbyte|Nookie^, as of it, you cant choose before installing..10:31
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xushihi all!10:31
Nookie^|lostbyte|: how can i remove evolution.. have tryied before but it says its not posible to remove10:31
Nookie^same thing with those games10:31
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xushijust installed kubuntu =) but i'm trying to search for Nvu, i can't find it in the list. What should i do ?10:31
ubotunvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.10:31
|lostbyte|Nookie^, what errror do you get ,and with what app ?10:32
xushithanks Hobbsee. I heard it was in some extra repository in adept though10:32
Nookie^|lostbyte|: i get an error for example games... this package cant be removed since it depends on another programs10:32
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Nookie^something like that10:32
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Nookie^|lostbyte|: it feels like im forced to have them =(10:33
Hobbseexushi: it used to be10:33
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xushiI need it for work, that's the problem10:33
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zero1hi guys!  how do i make hibernate work on my compaq presario v3000?  it says i don't have enough swap space when it try to10:34
Hobbseetonyyarusso: poke @ xushi10:35
Hobbseedarn.  he's gone to sleep10:35
xushino worries10:35
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Hobbseexushi: ask tonyyarusso about it later, he knows more10:35
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bobstrozero1: how much ram and how much swap space do you have?10:35
Jucatowouldn't he be able to install Edgy's Nvu?10:35
xushithanks Hobbsee10:35
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zero1i got 1.5 gigs of ram and 256MB swap...i didn't realized i'd need that much swap.  for the past years i've notice swap is hardly ever touched10:36
zero1i made a swapfile so 256 from partition + 750 swapfile   1Gb of swap10:37
bobstrozero1: i'm no expert (and somebody correct me if i'm wrong) but i understand you need more swap than ram since it saves to swap.10:37
zero1doesn't work10:37
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zero1holee...i'm gonna make 2x swap based on my mem?  3Gb?10:37
bobstrozero1: no, but at least 1X.10:38
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bobstrozero1: check the forums to be certain, but i had issues until swap > ram size10:38
zero1ok i don't want to repartition ...is swapfile ok?  it's slower but i just want it to hibernate10:38
HobbseeJucato: maybe.10:38
bobstrozero1: not sure about that.10:38
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HobbseeJucato: it's still unmaintained10:39
Jucatoyeah, it doesn't really solve the *real* problem...10:39
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zero1hmm....guess i'll try then10:40
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zero1i read someone made it work using this: uswsusp10:41
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zero1is this good?10:41
zero1it's from the forums10:41
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roland_whats wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?10:45
roland_images dont work10:45
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renatodamn feistu10:48
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mikro2ndgood day10:53
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mikro2ndHas anybody reported the following problem during an upgrade:10:54
mikro2ndFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)10:54
mikro2ndFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)10:54
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heinkel_111http://www.kubuntu.org is offline?10:55
heinkel_111or is it just me10:55
Jucatoit is10:55
roland_hey, what is wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?10:56
roland_it blows10:56
xushiare there any tutorials on how to get LAMP5 on kubuntu ?10:56
_4str1!lamp | xushi10:57
ubotuxushi: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:57
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:57
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luca-j #freenet-refs11:00
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renatoHi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?11:03
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|ericsson|Would anyone be a darling and help me with nvidia resolution problem in X?11:12
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pag|ericsson|, what's the problem?11:13
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|ericsson|Can't change resolution to anything over 640 now :/11:13
pag|ericsson|, are higher resolutions enabled in xorg?11:14
oraziosalve a tutti11:14
|ericsson|pag: have the nvidia-glx-legacy (old TNT2 card in this one)11:14
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|ericsson|pag: Yes, had 1280 yesterday for instance, before installed bastille..11:14
pag|ericsson|, sorry, bastille?11:15
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|ericsson|pag: It just decided to go down to 640 by itself this morning...one of the reasons for me not liking GUI's ;)11:15
|ericsson|pag: yeah, I mean, bastille has got nothing to do with video, but after that the video did not work :)11:15
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|ericsson|pag: Bastille was used to lock down ports and iptables so on, nothing to do with the videocard/settings11:16
llutzjeanette: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors or info why only 640x is used11:16
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llutz|ericsson|: ^^ sry11:17
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|ericsson|llutz: figured :) Have checked /var/log/Xorg.log and there is nothing wrong there..as far as I can see11:17
llutz|ericsson|: there'll be at least one line which says why this reso is used11:18
|ericsson|Modes: "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"11:18
llutz|ericsson|: thats xorg.cong11:18
|ericsson|llutz: ah..hold on ;)11:18
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llutz|ericsson|: maybe there's some info in /var/log/kdm.log too11:19
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|ericsson|llutz: the latest nvidia entry is: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "800x600" but still resolution is 640 now11:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:21
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A_Acan u make a grub boot disk in windows or do i have to boot into kubuntu to do it ?11:23
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|ericsson|haha, I can barely even paste due to enormously large windows :)11:23
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crazy_busmy motherboard is not functioning correctly so I'm going to get a new one.  I'm looking for a new cpu at the same time but all I can see are 64bit cpus.  I've heard that 64bit k/ubuntu is hard to use and that some programs dont work.  Is this true and is it recommened I try and find a 32bit processor?11:24
renatoHi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?11:24
doni had that problem resoultion?11:24
renatomy problem is my big deskot setting gets lost as soon as I log in11:24
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heinkel_111crazy_bus: 1. you  can run 32 bit kubuntu on a 64 bit processor no problem11:25
donI could not change mine11:25
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llutzcrazy_bus: you can install 32bit aswell, 64bit is only recommended for servers or on special hardware11:25
renatomeaning at the login I have a bigdestop 3200x1200, after I login I get 1600x1200 and clone mode11:25
heinkel_111crazy_bus: 2. 64 bit kubuntu is generally good and has no problems at all11:25
heinkel_111crazy_bus: unless you want to see flash on your webpages11:25
donall I could get 600X48011:25
donway to big11:26
|ericsson|don't know if it's anything but here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18538/11:26
renatodon, for that you have to go into administrator mode and set your monitor settings11:26
donI got mine fixed11:26
heinkel_111crazy_bus: flash on 64 bit is possible but it requires hacking11:26
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renatowell if you set plug and play sometimes it does not work, have a look if you can pick it up manually11:26
donI just kept swapping cards till it got it right11:27
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llutz|ericsson|: "(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)" check xorg.conf or rest of the logs why11:27
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A_Ayoutube uses flash doesnt it ?11:27
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epimethA_A: yes11:27
A_Ai have 64bit kubuntu11:27
A_Aflash came as default11:27
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ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava11:27
A_Agot no problems with it11:27
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A_Aah k11:28
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A_Acan i make a grub boot disk in windows ?11:28
donI had trouble with flash then Pandora radio loaded it for me11:28
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epimethJucato: is there any point in installing beryl at this point in time?  I heard them and compiz are merging the development trees soon...11:28
A_Ai will brb booting in kubuntu11:29
Jucatoepimeth: don't really know.11:29
epimethJucato: do you use it?11:29
Jucatoafaik, beryl will sort of become compiz-extras11:29
_4strOepimeth: on my box beryl just work fine11:29
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_4strOand no Jucato beryl is actually different than compiz11:30
epimeth_4strO: not asking if it works, just wondering if its worth the maybe hassel11:30
Jucato_4strO: yes I know that part. I'm just not familiar with how their merger will work11:30
epimeth_4strO: beryl is just a fork, the trees will probably merge with little or no problems11:31
epimethboth of the teams seem to know what they are doing :-)11:31
_4strOyep and both team seems to be one actually ;)11:31
_4strObut in fact i had to remove compiz for adding beryl11:32
Jucatoepimeth: although it won't merge exactly on a 1:1 ratio. I mean, the current compiz will be something like -core and beryl will be something like -extras11:32
epimethso here's a question... is it enough to have direct rendering or do I need AIGLX or whatever?11:32
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epimethwow.... glxgears ran with absolutely no warnings... I've never seen that before11:33
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_4strOso it's enough ;)11:33
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epimethis beryl in the feisty repos?11:33
_4strOjust : sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes11:33
A_Ahow do i make a grub boot floppy ?11:33
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epimeth_4strO: and now? just run beryl-manager ?11:36
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:36
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epimeththis is loading slowly.... maybe I should have ran it in the konsole?11:37
A_A!grub boot floppy11:37
epimethwheeee!!! spinny spinny11:37
epimethone annoying problem:11:37
A_A[19:37:35]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:37
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epimethit doesn't know how to deal with hidden programs... I have an annoying green dot on the top of my screen11:38
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bobstroepimeth: you mean the adept icon?11:39
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Pinarafwhy is a guidance tool used for battery monitoring instead of the classical klaptop thing or kpowersave or any other tool like that ?11:39
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_4strOepimeth: ??11:39
_4strOepimeth: beryl is slow ?11:39
A_Ahow do i make a grub boot floppy ?11:40
epimeth_4strO: yes, the adept icon, no beryl is fast, it just took beryl-manager a while to load the first time11:40
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_4strOA_A: grub-install --help11:41
epimethhow do I get the zoomed out cube view with the windows popping out?11:41
_4strOepimeth: and now everything's just fine ?11:41
_4strOepimeth: ctrl-alt + buttin111:42
epimetheverything is fine, yes11:42
epimethI want the zoomed out view, not just the cube view11:42
epimeththe one where you see the windows floating above the sides of the cube11:43
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Moo-There's another problen when upgradin to Feisty, Errors were encountered while processing: debconf11:43
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Moo-And then the upgrade-software stops upgrading11:43
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_4strOepimeth: dont know what you mean ...11:45
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epimethsoooo maaannnyyy ooooptions.... (first time beryl settings manager actually works for me)11:45
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|ericsson|hmm, now resolution is up to 800x600 but still looks creepy :/11:46
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epimeth_4strO: if you look at the beryl demos on youtube they always have have a zoomed out view of ctrl+alt+mouse1... and the open windows, instead of being flat on the side of the cube, appear to float just above it at different distances11:47
A_Athat doesnt tell me how to make a grub boot floppy11:47
llutzA_A: man grub-floppy11:47
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_4strOepimeth: that what it does when i ctrl+alt+mouse111:48
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|ericsson|llutz: I added: Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" but still nothing :/11:48
llutz|ericsson|: you use "ddc" ?11:48
_4strOepimeth: button1 + button2 on ther desktop11:48
_4strOsame ...11:48
epimeth_4strO: no no no....11:49
|ericsson|llutz: haven't got it11:49
_4strOepimeth: you have to look at the param in the config11:49
|ericsson|llutz: if it's the sync-range detection you are refering to?11:49
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epimethwhen you go into "view cube" mode or whatever you want to call it, I see my windows flat on the side of the cube11:49
llutz|ericsson|: yes, sync and supported modes11:49
donI cant get that sudo command to work for resolution in my console11:49
epimethI've seen on demos that they hover just above the side of the cube11:50
llutz|ericsson|: they should be listed in the xorg.0.log too11:50
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donI dont need to but I wanted to see if it worked11:50
_4strOgrub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by11:50
_4strO--root-directory, and uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot11:50
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|ericsson|llutz: ah, it was loaded, I thought it wasn't..11:50
_4strOA_A: perhaps i can type the command for you ?11:51
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donI would like to get it to respond11:51
_4strOA_A: grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/11:51
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epimethbbs... the bank calls me!11:51
dondo you need arrows also11:51
A_Ainstall device not specified11:52
A_Ado u have to mount a flopy ?11:52
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rdallarmiamazing, the way to let the big destop (ati driver) working was... to set up a different user and using it....11:52
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dontried both ways11:52
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_4strOA_A: think it's better :p11:52
RytmenPinnenhmm, that's strange, Yesterday when I tried to enable nvidia drivers my resolution got messed up. I decieded to give it a try again today and follow the fixres steps again, but now for some reason just works :O11:52
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|ericsson|RytmenPinnen: for me it was the other way around, worked fine up until yesterday and now (after following fixres) it won't work :)11:53
RytmenPinnenwhy did you do fixres when it worked? :D11:53
A_Awhats the command to mount a floppy, i have never done ti b411:54
|ericsson|RytmenPinnen: Resolution changed after I installed Bastille (don't ask me why) ;)11:54
_4strOsudo mount floppy11:54
_4strOsudo mount /dev/floppy11:54
_4strOdidn't remember exacty11:54
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A_Amount: can't find /dev/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:55
_4strOit's been a long time since i had a floppy disk11:55
|ericsson|sudo apt-get autoremove creepy-desktop-settings11:55
A_Atook me a while to find one too lol11:55
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A_Aif this is easier11:55
A_Awhen i put me 4th HDD in grub wont load11:55
vit_i have to speak spanish11:55
|ericsson|!es | vit_11:56
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:56
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A_Ahow can u configure grub so when i plug another HDD in it will still work ?11:57
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_4strOA_A: just plug it, mount everything11:57
_4strOand sudo grub-install11:57
_4strO(i think)11:57
A_Ai have grub11:57
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A_Ai plug another HDD in turn power on and i cant even get to grubs loading screen11:58
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_4strOyes i dont say sudo apt-get install grub11:58
A_Ato make a choice of what OS i want11:58
_4strObut sudo grub-install11:59
A_Awill that install grub to a floppy ?11:59
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)11:59
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xushidamn.. i lost the link, can anyone please provide it for me again ?11:59
_4strOthat will auto detect HD and write a new /boot/grub/menu.lst11:59
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A_Ait cant detect a HDD when i cant boot up ?11:59
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A_Aim lost =\12:00
doncheck jumper settings12:00
A_Athey are all right12:01
A_Aworked fine until i installed kubuntu12:01
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A_Awhe i installed kubuntu i didnt have that HDD plugged in cause i needed power to me dvd drive12:01
doni had that happen and checked again try cs12:01
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levonanyone know any good boy names for babies mines on the way 2 more months12:01
xushiOk so the LAMP5 tutorial really needs a rewrite..12:02
JucatoKubuntu :)12:02
bobstrolevon: kidbuntu12:02
xushiit says nothing on how to start them, how to get them working as a service,12:02
levonits not going to be an operating system lol12:02
bobstrolevon: levon 2.012:02
levonlol i guess i should have expected this haha12:02
_4strOxushi: because it do it automaticcaly perhaps ?12:02
Jucatoor :D12:02
bobstrolevon: honestly? give him a simple name that's easy to pronounce.12:02
levoni got one bob12:03
xushi_4strO: i just installed them through adept, but i don't see them started12:03
levonmy whife didnt agree to taht12:03
bobstrolevon: best thing we did was NOT name ours after familymembers.12:03
levonoh adept12:03
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levonthats real unique12:03
Jucatohm.. Mark (shuttleworth?)12:03
bobstrolevon: adept is a kind a cool name i guess. :)12:03
_4strOxushi: ps aux | grep apache ?12:03
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Jucatoit just shows how inadept you are at choosing names12:04
levoni dont know if wife will go for it12:04
bobstrolevon: we also went for one that works well with last name.12:04
levonyea this would work pretty good lol i was about to give out my last name12:04
_4strOxushi: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start ?12:04
xushi_4strO: my bad, you are right. What i was trying to do is to run mysql_install_db and it is giving me an error, saying possibly mysql isn't running12:04
xushibut indeed it's running12:04
xushiso time to debug12:04
levonshes cambodian my wife so i dont know12:04
_4strOxushi: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?12:05
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levonshe came up with one i couldnt even pronounce12:05
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levonsomething like that i cant type it lol12:05
xushithanks _4strO.12:05
Jucatohm. anyway,12:05
Jucato!offtopic :)12:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
xushiit's fun to try kubuntu after gentoo.. scary, but fun :)12:06
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:06
levonaright guys im going to name him kubuntu have a good night12:06
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_4strOxushi: think it will boot mysql automaticvally at your next reboot ;)12:06
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xushitoo used to doing everything manually.12:07
xushithis friendlyness will take a bit to get used to12:07
heinkel_111hey, I am trying to reformat a hard-drive but I cannot unmount it: resource busy! how to find out what is keeping the resource busy?12:07
bobstroxushi: don't worry, things will still break.12:07
heinkel_111i am working through ssh12:07
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xushii hope not.. i convinced my company to switch all their windows machines to linux12:08
bobstroxushi: i managed to get a conflict between sysvinit and sysvinit-utils, couldn't update anyting12:08
xushito kubuntu *12:08
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bobstroxushi: well, not as MUCH will break :)12:08
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xushiwell i found my first bug after a fresh install which crashed me out12:08
bobstroheinkel_111: you're not formatting the drive you current directory is on right?12:08
A_Awhats the command to mount a floppy ?12:08
_4strOA_A: just try : sudo mount -a12:09
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heinkel_111bobstro: i am trying to work from my "client" machine to reformat something on my "server" machine12:09
bobstroi don't have any entries for floppy in /etc/fstab12:09
xushiwhen you have dual monitors (internal, and pci), and you're using the pci one, then install nvidia glx drivers, it automatically sticks the busid for the first bus (which is the internal one), instead of the correct one (2nd one)12:09
bobstroheinkel_111: ok, but make sure you're not current in a directory (cwd) that's on the partition you need to format on the server, right?12:09
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heinkel_111bobstro: the problem may be just that, but how do i ssh into the "server" without using my /home partition, then?12:10
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bobstroheinkel_111: so you're trying for format partition home is on then?12:10
heinkel_111bobstro: Yes. Do i need to walk over and do the livecd trick? or can i do this remote?12:11
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_4strOheinkel_111: think is better than nobody can format your system through ssh :p12:11
A_Ammk that worked12:11
bobstroheinkel_111: well, you could create a user with a $HOME that is NOT on that partition i suppose.12:11
xushihmm, this will be a problem.. /var/www/ is owned by root. this will be a problem for me as a user to do some web development12:11
A_Anow how do i install grub to the floppy12:11
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_4strOA_A: i gave you the command before12:12
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bobstroheinkel_111: i'd just walk over and open a root cli session for root on the server, dismount /home and do it there.12:12
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_4strOA_A: grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/12:12
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red8ull-hi guys12:13
red8ull-quick question12:13
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_4strOA_A: you probably have to put a sudo before12:13
red8ull-in wireless lan manager im trying to connect to my ap with WEP12:13
heinkel_111bobstro: could it work if I started a root shell remote?12:13
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red8ull-however i dont know how to put in the hex12:13
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red8ull-it never works, but in windows it does12:13
A_Asudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/12:13
A_Ainstall_device not specified.12:13
A_AUsage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device12:13
bobstroheinkel_111: if you allow root to login via ssh, it should work (after you dismount /home) but normally you don't want root to do that.12:14
bobstroheinkel_111: and you ARE sure you really want to zap /home, right?12:14
heinkel_111I don't want to zap it, only a resize12:14
_4strOA_A: sudo grub-install /dev/floppy/ ???12:14
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heinkel_111bobstro  ^12:14
bobstroheinkel_111: ah, then i wouldn't reformat it!12:14
_4strOA_A: dont do my command12:15
A_Alucky it didnt copy lol12:15
red8ull-hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something?12:15
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bobstroheinkel_111: you're supposed to be able to do that with gparted, but i can't say i've done it.12:15
bobstroheinkel_111: though i don't think i'd try *that* remotely12:15
_4strOA_A: just make a sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak before ;)12:15
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red8ull-hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something please anyone help thanks12:16
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heinkel_111bobstro: you are right about reformatting, it was rather poorly explained: I am going to 1) shrink /home 2) reformat the other partition on that disk :)12:16
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heinkel_111bobstro: the /home is too large compared to the new one12:16
bobstroheinkel_111: cheat and go buy another disk!12:17
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A_Asudo grub-install /dev/floppy/12:17
A_A/dev/floppy/: Not found or not a block device.12:17
bobstroheinkel_111: search around, there are a lot of articles on resizing. i've used partitionmagic frequently, but not the free tools (yet).12:17
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heinkel_111bobstro: :-) buy new disk not an option, this is an old box that only holds 2 hard drives12:18
bobstroheinkel_111: plan b is to just copy /home somewhere, then repartition and reformat. now THAT i have done.12:18
heinkel_111thanks for helping12:18
heinkel_111bobstro it should be possible to resize12:18
_4strOA_A: cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy12:18
red8ull-hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something please anyone help thanks12:18
bobstroheinkel_111: yes, but it is always risky. i'd make that backup in either case!12:18
bobstroheinkel_111: if you've got an old drive, buy an external usb enclosure for it. those are GREAT for this sort of task.12:19
A_A/etc/fstab | grep floppy12:19
A_A/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       012:19
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A_Aits in media12:19
heinkel_111bobstro: backup has been taken care of  :)12:19
A_Anot /dev12:19
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bobstroheinkel_111: ah, ok then. so IN THAT CASE, you could log in as root via ssh (if allowed) or create a user with $HOME outside of /home.12:19
_4strOA_A: sudo grub-install /dev/fd012:20
bobstroheinkel_111: again, i'd just do it at console on the server. you'd hate for connection to drop halfway through.12:20
_4strOA_A: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/fd012:21
A_A   /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.12:21
_4strOperhaps :p12:21
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heinkel_111bobstro: yeah i guess you are right, i'll put on slippers and head over12:21
A_Asudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/fd012:21
A_Ainstall_device not specified.12:21
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A_Awhat is sudo ?12:22
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:22
A_Aah yes12:22
A_Aive never used to command b412:23
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A_Ato = the12:23
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_4strOA_A: sudo grub-install '(fd0)'12:25
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A_AError 21: Selected disk does not exist12:26
A_Agrub> quit12:26
A_Asoo close12:26
A_Acould i have a defective floppy =\12:27
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_4strOdont know :p12:27
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A_Aobviously ^_^12:27
Alarmhello, how is the application that shows the log files of apache, system logs, dmesg and so on called ?12:27
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A_Awell ti has been laying around for a few years =\12:28
JucatoAlarm: ksystemlog ?12:28
Alarmfound it :)12:28
AlarmJucato,  u were faster hehe12:28
A_Adont suppose u could burn it to a cd ?12:28
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|ericsson|Ah, resolution working again :)12:28
Alarmyes thats what i meant , i removed it by mistake, just noticed it12:28
|ericsson|Alarm: How are we feeling this morning? ;)12:28
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Alarmoo good morning |ericsson|  . well the same12:28
LamingtonSomeone in here yesterday said to install libxine-extracodecs to get mp3 support for Amarok12:28
Jucato"we are the borg..."12:28
Alarmstill trying to figure out the mount thing12:29
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|ericsson|Alarm: Had any nightmares last night?12:29
Alarmnot really, just now trying to see any usb conflicts or something12:29
|ericsson|Jucato: :)12:29
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A_A!super grub disk12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about super grub disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
Alarmwhat i noticed is that when i pmount it , it mounts it on /media/sda1 , and when i let the system to mount it , for some reason it always tries to mount it to /media/win5 , somehow it got stuck with that dir12:29
eeoshi everybody!12:30
eeosI have been able to get my bluetooth phone recognised.12:30
|ericsson|Alarm: you don't have an entry in /etc/fstab for it?12:30
LamingtonInstalling libxine-extracodecs results in the removal of Amarok... and now even after removing libxine-extracodecs I cannot install Amarok anymore without getting an error12:30
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eeosI eed to send text to customer through laptop keyboard12:30
eeosis there an application for that?12:30
donmy Amorak wont play DVD12:31
LamingtonAmarok is a music player12:31
|ericsson|!medibunt | don12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about medibunt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
|ericsson|!medibuntu | don12:31
ubotudon: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:31
_4strOdon: for DVD kaffine ...12:31
_4strOkaffeine or vlc, mplayer ...12:31
agn0sticanyone know off the top of their head if it's possible to add a directory of songs to amarok through dcop?12:32
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Lamingtonmedibuntu is borked12:32
donsorry wrong player12:32
Lamingtonscrewed up my system12:32
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donthat works12:32
|ericsson|Alarm: /dev/sda1 /media/win5 ntfs rw,umask=000 0 0/sbin/udevstart, did you try that yesterday?12:32
Alarmehmm, one more please12:32
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Alarmthats an entry in the fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/win5 ntfs rw,umask=000 0 0/sbin/udevstart  ?12:32
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donKaffeine wont play DVD12:33
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|ericsson|Alarm: you could add it there, but again the umask is probably what's causing the problems..12:33
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:34
Jucatodon: ^^^^12:34
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_4strOactally it's another package for DVD no ?12:34
Alarm|ericsson|,  i guess kde is trying to mount the device, it does somehow and then udev cant thats why the messages that it is occupied , or the opposide12:34
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donOgle works fine I guess I dont need Kaffeine12:34
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_4strOha no it hte right package12:35
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nuxilhi all.. it there a way to do a netinstall of feisty ?12:35
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GoodHabithello! I'm sorry, probably it os stupid question. I am nebie linux user. How i can set up media (video, music) on kubuntu?12:35
Alarmnow that someone mentioned about kaffeine.12:36
_4strO!codecs | GoodHabit12:36
donI could not find one I burned image12:36
Alarmwhen i try to open a video file, no matter which one, it doesnt start at all, and the application crashes, i did run it from console and got this:12:36
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AlarmQLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout . kaffeine: WARNING: KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one...12:36
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AlarmCommunication problem with kaffeine, it probably crashed.12:36
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Alarmi uninstalled it and purge the config files as also removed the kaffeine folder in my home dir, but didnt help much12:36
Alarmyesterday i didnt have any problem actually as i could play files12:37
donthere are many different players in add and remove 1 will work12:37
Alarmmplayer and vlc can play those files12:37
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nuxilmy dvd drive is not working correctly,, and i cant install feisty with a dvd|cd. can i do a netinstall with a floppy or a boot cd?12:38
nuxili know its posseble with debian..12:38
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|ericsson|Alarm: are you using DVB?12:39
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:39
LamingtonI put a bunch of music on a dvd and now i cant copy files off it... it said i didnt have permission... Im noob so I dont know how to do 'chown' to change the permissions, could someone help ?12:39
Jucatonuxil: check those links? ^^^12:39
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nuxilthanks Jucato12:40
Dragonhey can any1 tell me how to get mp3 support installed on amarok ? every time it comes up with the "amarok cannot play mp3s do you want to install mp3 support" popup it crashes12:40
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_4strO!codecs | Dragon12:40
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|ericsson|Alarm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/6662012:41
xushikubuntu keeps randomly freezing on me12:41
xushijust happened with me when i tried to start Kate12:41
Alarmlet me check12:41
Alarmits kind of weird as since yesterday i didnt have any problem with it12:41
Alarmslowly problems appear like the system time , mount , now kaffeine12:42
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|ericsson|Alarm: Don't know if that would apply to you since it's more dvb related and dvd-playback12:42
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|ericsson|Alarm: tomorrow you will have windows installed without even knowing about it..12:42
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Alarmno it doesnt crash on dvd, it crashes on every type of video files12:42
Alarmu think so ? :)12:43
|ericsson|Alarm: problems slowly creeping in :)12:43
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xushiis there a root password? it's irritating typing sudo eery second12:44
Alarmits Jucato  fault anyway :)12:44
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fdoving!rootsudo | xushi12:44
ubotuxushi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:44
|ericsson|lol :)12:45
eeosis there any application to manage your mobile phone from the laptop using bluetooth (sending sms and so on)?12:45
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bobstrowhat's the article keyword for getting codecs etc. installed? i though it was "mediabuntu" but that's not working.12:46
fdovingbobstro, medibuntu?12:46
bobstroah that must be it. thanks.12:47
|ericsson|!medibuntu | bobstro12:47
ubotubobstro: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:47
|ericsson|Anyone tried the "turoprint" drivers for multi-purpose printers?12:48
|ericsson|"turoprint" -> "turboprint" ;)12:48
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dontype commands in console or during boot?12:49
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Alarm|ericsson|,  i got an idea man12:50
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|ericsson|Alarm: Sell the USB drive to stoft? :)12:50
fdovingdon: come again? what do you want to do?12:51
Alarmto try to see whats happening on another window manager12:51
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donI want to learn how to command in console I dont know how12:52
|ericsson|Alarm: It doesn't really seem logical that kde would grab the drive, but who knows?12:52
fdoving!cli | don12:52
ubotudon: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:52
Alarmi will be right back12:52
fdoving|ericsson|: grab what device?12:52
donis that like dos command prompt?12:53
|ericsson|fdoving: Alarm has problems with an external USB drive when he's trying to mount it..12:53
fdovingdon: similar, but more powerful.12:53
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fdoving|ericsson|: ok.12:53
fdovinghe left.12:53
donMine says shell console that the one?12:53
fdovingdon: yes.12:54
_NeilAnyone know how to make gpg work through a proxy? Trying to get my key onto keyserver.ubuntu.com12:54
donI have tried some commands but no results yet12:54
agn0sticdon: once you get a little comfortable with the shell, check out http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/12:54
agn0sticdon: try typing ls then enter12:54
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agn0sticthat's a directory listing12:55
donok I want to learn this os12:55
fdoving_Neil: gpg, as in the command on the commandline?12:55
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agn0sticit takes some time, but it's worth it - the possibilities for what you can do are pretty much endless12:55
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_Neilfdoving: the command , as in gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key -mykey-12:56
_Neilit hangs.. im behind a web proxy12:56
Alarm|ericsson|,  a reboot did fix also kaffeine ...12:56
donThanks I got a response12:56
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|ericsson|heh, what to do if lsusb shows 04a9:1709 but I need xxx:yyy ? ;)12:56
|ericsson|Alarm: starting to look like M$ :)12:57
agn0sticdon: also, if you know a command, but dont know how to use it type "man commandname" without the quotes12:57
Alarmand u know whos fault it is :)12:57
fdoving_Neil: ok. you need to set the http_proxy variable. like 'http_proxy= gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key -mykey..'12:57
|ericsson|Alarm: know :)12:57
agn0sticdon: if you know what you want to do, and don't know what command to use, type "apropos keyword" where keyword is a word related to what you want to do12:58
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Alarmi like the fact that i use debian and hang in kubuntu :)12:58
roland_how can i change the behaviour of textbox-entering? i want that the content of a textbox (for example the address-textbox in firefox) is selected when clicking in the textbox12:58
_Neilfdoving: brilliant, thanks12:58
fdovingAlarm: it's much the same.12:58
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A_Ahow do i swap grub for lilo ?12:59
Alarmfdoving,  no, i am a bit strange, yesterday i was searching for support for mou usb drive also in fedora channel :)12:59
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fdovingA_A: remove grub, install lil? - basically just install lilo, it will overwrite grub.12:59
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Alarmwhen they told me about rpm , i realised i was in the wrong channel :)12:59
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.12:59
AlarmLilo was great01:00
doneveryone should have at least 1 kubuntu!01:00
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agn0sticgrub has a much cleaner configuration, imo01:00
roland_how can i change the behaviour of textbox-entering? i want that the content of a textbox (for example the address-textbox in firefox) is selected when clicking in the textbox01:00
Alarma bit more easy to configure than grub01:00
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fdovingA_A: i recommend having a look at /etc/kernel-img.conf if you switch to lilo. you don't want the postinst_hook and the postrm_hooks with grub-things anymore.01:00
xushihmm, i can't seem to find mod-rewrite for apache2 in adept01:01
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RytmenPinnenhow do I know what version that comes with the adept installer?01:02
epimethokay... first of all.. YES! beryl working poifectly.... I think I'm in heaven...01:02
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epimethsencondly, do I *have* to close adept updater if I don't want it appearing on my desktop and panel?01:02
fdovingxushi: it's included. it's in the apache2.2-common package.01:02
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fdovingRytmenPinnen: what version of any program?01:03
RytmenPinnenlike ardour01:03
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fdovingRytmenPinnen: click on the blue arrow '>' in front of the package name. it will expand and give you more information about the package.01:04
RytmenPinnenwhat blue arrow? :D01:04
A_Afdoving: im a linux noob ive nfi what u just said =\01:04
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fdovingRytmenPinnen: inside Adept Manager, the blue arrow infront of the packeg names in the search results.01:04
RytmenPinnenis that in the adept manager? cause i was in the remove/add programs01:04
fdovingA_A: ok, why do you want lilo? - grub is the better one.01:05
RytmenPinnenaah, nice thanks..01:05
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A_Agrub give me an error 17 when i add another hdd01:05
fdovingRytmenPinnen: you're welcome :)01:05
A_Ai read forums01:05
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A_Aand getting lilo was the easiest way to fix01:05
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CarinArrwhat's error 1701:06
CarinArri had problems with error 16 before01:06
CarinArrwhich has magically gone after i wiped vista01:06
fdovingroland_: excuse me?01:06
A_A17 : Cannot mount selected partition01:07
A_AThis error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.01:07
|ericsson|!coc | roland_:01:07
fdovingroland_: please stop.01:07
uboturoland_:: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:07
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heinkel_112!coc > |ericsson|01:07
heinkel_112that is a proper redirect, |ericsson|01:08
CarinArrdepends what he wanted to do01:08
fdovingA_A: did you try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?01:08
A_Ai installed kubuntu after windows01:08
|ericsson|heinkel_112: priv v.s public :)01:08
dalolisomeone can tell me what is the name of the i386 kernel pakage in feisty01:08
dalolii must install it by terminal01:09
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fdovingA_A: i'm aware of that, but that proccedure does not hurt to do, it might aswell fix your current problem.01:09
dalolix freezes01:09
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A_Agrub doesnt recognise one of me HDD's filesystems01:09
daloliwhich partitio is it?01:10
fdovingdaloli: linux-image-generic works.01:10
dalolinot for me01:10
CarinArra_a rewriting my grub temporarily fixed my error 16 before01:10
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fdovingdaloli: ok. try linux-image-386 then.01:10
_NeilCan I decrypt emails using thunderbird?01:10
A_Ai cant boot up with the HDD plugged in01:10
dalolidid you edit fstab A_A?01:10
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A_Awhats fstab :(01:11
dalolior is an usb external drive01:11
A_Ano its sata01:11
jesusiyoalguien que me pueda resolver unas dudas sobre kubuntu=?01:11
A_Athe usb one is working fine01:11
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dalolifstab is where you must declare which partitions you have01:11
_4strO!fstab A_A01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fstab a_a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
_4strO!fstab | A_A01:11
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ubotuA_A: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:11
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CarinArr!pt > jesusiyo01:12
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xushifor osme reason i'm getting this error trying to get vhosts to work in apache in kubuntu, http://rafb.net/p/JNE7MW16.html01:13
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A_Athis HDD im trying to plug in is for windows, linux wont be able to read it01:14
A_Auntil i backup data and format it01:15
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strabesA_A: it's probably ntfs01:15
A_Abut i have 2 other ntfs HDD's and they cause no troubles =\01:16
ubuntuok it is working, just heinkel112 on different machine trying to set up feisty install01:16
ubuntudo i need gparted to shrink a reiserfs partition_01:16
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ubuntuthat should be a question mark lol01:17
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BlOOd___alguien que me ayude=?01:18
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dakokique te pasa?01:19
BlOOd___necesito algo de ayuda01:19
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BlOOd___para algunos temas01:19
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:19
BlOOd___mira por ejemplo montar imagenes01:19
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dakokiDE CD01:20
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dakokies con mount01:20
dakokisudo mount direccion de la imagen01:20
BlOOd___si xro no se que orden dar01:20
A_Amy fstab hardly look slike the example01:21
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BlOOd___mira por ejemplo imagina que esta en /home/usuario/desktop ay esta la imagen01:21
BlOOd___que orden doy=?01:21
dakokiejemplo sudo mount /home/caca/imagencd.iso01:21
BlOOd___imagencd que es el nombre ?01:22
dakokisi es para un juego hay programas que te lo montan como el cedega01:22
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BlOOd___si es para juegos01:22
BlOOd___como la monto en cedega01:22
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dakokitienes cedega?01:22
BlOOd___si lo tengo aqui01:22
A_Ai understand one word of that convo01:22
gabooDo you know when kubuntu.org will be back online ?01:23
heinkel_112!es | BlOOd___ dakoki01:23
ubotuBlOOd___ dakoki: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:23
dakokipues por ahi creo que viene una opcion de instalar desde imagen de cd01:23
A_Ait will be back online when it decides to01:23
BlOOd___tu como instalaas los juegos?01:23
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xushiargh... my machine INSISTS on taking dhcp, even if i manually edit it in knetworkmanager01:23
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xushii click save, restart, and its back to the dhcp ip01:24
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gaboothanks A_A. If you don't know when, then just don't answer ...01:24
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frankygood mornig!!!01:25
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nuxilhi all.. whats the name of the pak for the nvidia driver ?01:25
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|ericsson|nuxil: apt-cache search nvidia01:26
frankyi have a problem...i've installed beryl but i don't know the buttons to be pushed to make appear the cube.pls help me :-)01:26
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eeosupdate to 704 here01:26
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eeoswhat is the kubuntu logo in the column next to the package name in adept?01:26
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eeosno documentation with adept afaik, I have been searching the repository01:27
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_4strOfranky: just look in beryl-manager01:28
_4strOfranky: think it s ctrl-alt + button 101:29
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RytmenPinnenis there alot of risk to screw up the system if I install beryl?01:29
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dakokisomeone can tell me what is the name of the i386 kernel pakage in feisty generic frezes a lot and i can't start the pakage manager i must work in safe mode01:30
_4strORytmenPinnen: nop01:30
RytmenPinnenothere words, is it alot of hassle?01:30
fdovingeeos: the kubuntu logo means it's supported by kubuntu, ie. in the main repository. the packages without are mainly community supported.01:30
eeosfdoving: thanks!01:30
RytmenPinnenk, so I'll just get it with the adept manager or the add remove programs01:30
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fdovingdakoki: linux-image-38601:30
_4strORytmenPinnen: adept is better01:31
_4strOor in a console with sudo apt-get install01:31
dakokiso i must type sudo aptitude linux-image-386 and it will work?01:31
fdovingdakoki: yep.01:31
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makki hi rpedro01:31
dakokii must reinstal everything and i want to be shuer tis sis correct01:32
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makkiare you here?01:33
makkiare you here rpedro?01:33
Hobbseemakki: use /whois rpedro01:34
Hobbsee[21:34]  [Whois]  rpedro has been idle for 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 26 seconds.01:34
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rpedromakki: I'm here01:35
makkihiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii rpedro01:36
RytmenPinnenright, now, how di I activate it? I got the beryl manager open01:36
rpedrohello :)01:36
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_4strORytmenPinnen: right click on the rubis in systray01:36
_4strORytmenPinnen: select windows manager01:36
makkican we chat priv01:36
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amigraveis it possible to add a keyboard shortcut to a bash script without adding the script to the menu ?01:37
|ericsson|heh, you GUI people, how do I open a file manager as root?01:37
RytmenPinnenI cant see that01:37
RytmenPinnennothing in the tray01:37
RytmenPinnenah I think i know why01:38
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_4strORytmenPinnen: "beryl-manager &"  in a console (after having closed beryl-manager)01:38
fdovingamigrave: yes, kmenu -> system settings -> accesibility -> input handling.01:38
xushican anyone please help me?01:38
xushithis is work related01:38
RytmenPinnenI dont have the manager only the settings manager01:38
xushiknetwork manager keeps putting my dhcp address...01:38
xushiit wont accept a static address i put, even if i tell it manually01:39
xushiit saves, restarts, then just sets it back to the dhcp address01:39
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fdovingxushi: knetworkmanager does not handle static addresses. it's dhcp only. you should add the network device to /etc/network/interfaces and then restart dbus and networkmanager, that way networkmanager should not touch your static configured device at all.01:40
rpedromakki: /join #makki01:41
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xushifdoving: how can i add a domain in there too ?01:41
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fdovingxushi: the domain and nameservers goes in /etc/resolv.conf01:43
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xushi_sorry i got disconnected01:46
xushi_how would i set myself to the domain in kubuntu ?01:46
xushi_say, domain xushi.company.local01:46
xushi_err, domain company.local *01:46
xushi_windows domain controller & dns01:46
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mat1980ericson, run command kdesu konqueror01:47
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xushi_anyone ?01:54
amigravefdoving: yeah ! Thanks !01:55
heinkel_112I do love rsync :)01:55
xushi_how do i add a domainname ?01:56
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xushi_installing NIS seems to be stuck and fails on * binding to YP server...02:00
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xushii'm supposed t be able to ping xushi.company.local, and it should hit the company dns and get my ip address.. but this isn't working here02:03
xushiplease anyone i needhelp02:03
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srastinI have a frozen QEMU window, everything else is fine.  How do I terminate it?02:03
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MuJpress ctrl-alt-esc and click on the window02:04
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stoftMuJ: nice trick, didn't know that one. :)02:05
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viktorhi, i'm trying to create an ext3 partiotion in i qtparted, but i can only choose from ext2 and a couple of FAT. is there a package i have to install?02:11
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jussi01viktor: are you sure that those are the options not the partitions you already have?02:12
paoloi don't think. what version of qparted?02:12
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heinkel_112viktor: paolo: this may depend on other programs. qtparted is just a front-end02:13
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viktorjussi01: i right-click on some free space, called dsa-1, and then i get a create partition dialog, and under partition Type, there s no ext3, just ext3 and some other types02:14
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jussi01viktor: im not sure then...02:14
viktorpaolo: 0.4.5-cvs (the one in feisty)02:14
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viktorheinkel_112: qtparted had no extra dependencies while installing, di you know if there is a package i should install?02:15
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viktorjussi01: ok, thanks anyway02:16
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heinkel_112viktor: which version of parted do you have installed?02:16
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Briareos1hi guys; i try to unpack a lot of zips in one hit with ark (right mouse btn in konq and click "unpack here") but only some 4-10 (randomly) are really unpacked ... any ideas?02:18
heinkel_112or, viktor: easy workaround is "sudo apt-get gparted"02:18
heinkel_112gparted is better than qtparted02:18
epimethis there a way to diff all files in a directory?02:18
ErfHow come, that when I install Kubuntu choosing Danish language, the desktop I boot into after the install is not localised?02:18
viktorheinkel_112: parted 1.1.7-3ubuntu402:19
viktorheinkel_112: yeah, i'll try gparted02:19
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heinkel_112viktor: your parted is not up to date02:19
heinkel_112viktor : recommends: parted (>= 1.6.6)02:20
paoloerf: you should go on adept, search for "danish" and install the necessary packages02:20
heinkel_112viktor: that ^ was from apt-cache show qtparted02:20
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viktorhm, so is that in universe then?02:21
Erfpaolo: I'll try that, thank you. Do you happen to know approximately what these packages are called?02:21
heinkel_112erhm i don't know let me look around a little02:21
viktorheinkel_112: actually what i really would like to do is to merge the empty space with my kubuntu-partition. is that possible from within kubuntu?02:21
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heinkel_112viktor: if the empty space comes after the kubuntu-partition, yes02:22
paolouhmm... wait02:22
heinkel_112viktor: if the empty space is _before_ the kubuntu partition, no02:22
heinkel_112viktor: then you will have to do a lot of rearrangement and that is only possible if you have extra space02:23
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nirmali would like to know ubuntu works well with senao sub362 ext02:23
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xushii keep getting this for kinit (kerberos) : kinit(v5): Improper format of Kerberos configuration file while initializing Kerberos 5 library02:23
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heinkel_112viktor: abouFilename: pool/main/p/parted/parted_1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2_i386.debt parted02:23
heinkel_112about parted ^02:24
heinkel_112i guess that means it is in the main ubuntu repository02:24
Erfpaolo: gotta go, thanks for your help. :)02:24
paoloErf: language-pack-dk02:24
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viktoroh, heinkel_11, i'm so sorry, i must have looked at the wrong package or something, my version is 1.7.1-3ubuntu402:26
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Dakokimy konqueror do not let me enter into automatix web so i need to the url for feisty to use wget02:26
viktorthat seems more up to date02:27
Dakokisomeone can helpme02:27
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jussi01!automatix | Dakoki02:28
ubotuDakoki: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:28
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viktorif i want to claim the unused space after my ubuntu-partition, do i not have to unmount the ubuntu-part? if so, can i unmount the a partition i'm currently running on (as you can see here i'm quite new to linux, and partitioning in general)02:29
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jussi01viktor: you need to get the live cd and do it from there - and so have the partition unmounted02:30
viktorjussi01: ok, thanks, and thanks heinkel_112 for your help too02:30
heinkel_112viktor: go with gparted for a smoother ride02:31
viktorheinkel_112: will do, guess i'll use the ubuntu-livecd then02:31
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heinkel_112viktor: i just did the same with kubuntu live cd02:32
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heinkel_112you can just install gparted from the livecd using sudo apt-get install gparted02:32
heinkel_112oops, no - i had the live DVD when i think of it02:33
meduxahi, I have a problem related with Launchpad, who do I have to talk to?02:33
meduxaor email to?02:33
viktorheinkel_112: ok, i'll try them both i guess ;)02:33
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nirmaljust ask here and wait02:34
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RytmenPinnenWhere is the file managment view profile located?02:34
abattoirmeduxa: #launchpad maybe? I don't know if it's for support though02:34
RytmenPinnenI want to set detailed list view as default02:34
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abattoirRytmenPinnen: if you're using edgy/feisty you should see the icon view button... you can click on that to change the current view02:35
meduxaI'll try on irc channel, thanks02:35
RytmenPinnenI tried to click on it but nothing happens02:36
abattoirRytmenPinnen: click and hold for a second02:36
abattoirRytmenPinnen: or move your cursor a bit02:36
RytmenPinnenbut it still opens in icon view when I open a new window02:36
RytmenPinnenno way to get around that?02:37
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azizis there a way how I can increase the maximum volume of my soundcard?02:37
abattoirRytmenPinnen: not sure if saving the view profile would help... let me search02:37
RytmenPinnenaaah, right now i got, I have to save the filemanagment02:38
RytmenPinnenabattoir:  yes it does :)02:38
abattoirRytmenPinnen: great :)02:38
RytmenPinnenyup :)02:38
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aavictor2Please, Joined #Rescate-Pokemon02:39
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ErunnoDoes anyone know if Kaffeine supports the smb kio-slave ?02:39
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abattoirmeduxa: you might want to remove that away message, it annoys a lot of people... especially the ops :)02:42
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rigobertoay algue aqui?02:43
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LjL!es | rigoberto02:43
uboturigoberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:43
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abattoirLjL: sorry to ask? isn't it a bit harsh to immediately ban someone for something like this? or was meduxa  a repeat offender?02:44
LjLabattoir: except that wasn't the user i banned02:45
Hobbseeabattoir: it wasnt meduxa02:45
LjL!away > meduxa    (meduxa, see the private message from Ubotu)02:45
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ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines02:46
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LjL!no away is <sed> /$/ and !nickspam/02:46
ubotuI'll remember that LjL02:46
abattoirLjL: oh sorry, my mistake, similar IP addresses, i think i should head to bed now instead ;)02:46
LjLabattoir: :-)02:46
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BlOOd___alguien que sepa instalar temas en kubuntu?02:47
heinkel_112!es > BlOOd___02:47
BlOOd___heinkel tu sabes?02:48
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:48
BlOOd___pue exame una mano jeje02:48
heinkel_112i know how but cannot explain in spansih02:48
xushihelp! i get this error whenever i type sudo anything, sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication information cannot be recovered02:48
BlOOd___tell me I try understand you02:49
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heinkel_112just go to kde-look.org02:51
heinkel_112find new themes, and follow the install instructions02:52
BlOOd___yes I downloaded a theme02:52
heinkel_112a ppopular one?02:52
heinkel_112some of them are old and some very buggy02:52
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heinkel_112popular is a good thing, often means less bugs02:52
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BlOOd___yes but the extension of the archive was .tar.bz2 and I don't know how install it02:53
HymnToLifeBlOOd___, it's more likely source code, extract it with    tar xjvf filename.tar.bz202:54
HymnToLifeand follow the README02:54
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korobaseHi,all.how to refresh the font cache?02:55
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korobaseHi,all.how to refresh the font cache?02:57
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fdovingkorobase: in konsole, 'fc-cache -f'02:57
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wezlohey all, I'm having a problem with a unichrome video (km400) and feisty - X.org won't load, and top shows "events" using 97% of my cpu03:03
Aaronfromchinahello. everyone :)03:03
wezloit loads fine using the vesa driver, but then I don't get 3d acceleration03:03
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AaronfromchinaAre you guys in holiday (1st May)?03:07
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Blue_Tigerhi everyone03:08
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CVirusAaronfromchina: it's holiday here today03:13
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AaronfromchinaCVirus: That's cool. Are you from China as well? We've got 7 days holiday here. :)03:14
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BluesKajhowdy all :)03:15
jjjhere in the philippines most of the establishments choose to open their business even if it is May 1...03:15
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jjjlife is hard to earn here in the Philippines...everyone needs to work...03:15
Aaronfromchinajjj: it's a kind of lucky day, isn't it?03:15
CVirusAaronfromchina: lucky you03:15
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:16
BluesKajMay 1st is jusy another beginning of the month business etc day in Canada.03:16
jjjsome group of people arranged a rally to voice their cries about poverty...03:16
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AaronfromchinaChinese government encourgre people to spend, travel... to pull the domestic economy. So we've got 7 days holiday three times a year. Spring Festivel, 1st of May, and National days. :)03:17
joe__whats up03:17
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jjjAre your Government spending lots of money in licensing softwares and OS?03:17
LjLAaronfromchina, the !offtopic was directed at you i hink03:18
AaronfromchinaSorry about that, it's out of topic.03:18
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BluesKajspeaking of poverty .. I'm deprived of digital ouput on my ati ixp soundcard ...the internal pcm works fine ...just no output to the digital coax connection.03:18
jjjIn the Philippines, I think upto 87% of PCs are Microsoft based...03:18
aroAddendum: pirated Microsoft based03:19
jjjI hope the world embraced the open source spirit...03:19
Aaronfromchinaexactly. :)03:19
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Aaronfromchinaaro: excatly. :)03:19
ExIGhey - desperate question, i use ubuntu and need to configure a KDE global proxy any ideas?03:19
jjjaro: Addendum: pirated Microsoft based...YAH...most of the establishments here are using pirated cracked version of everything...03:20
AaronfromchinaHopefully, Kubutnu based in the futurel )03:20
BluesKajin edgy I had the digital out hooked to my audio receiver DAC for sound in our TV/HT room...now , nothing ! :(03:20
jjjyes yes yes...kubuntu based...thats the spirit...03:20
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dettoaltrimenti_is there a tool to check NTFS or FAT partitions for errors?03:20
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Aaronfromchinadettoaltrimenti_: In window, chkdsk can check errors. :) don't know how to do it in Kubuntu.03:21
dettoaltrimenti_ah sweet, thanks03:22
Daisuke_Idodunno how it works for ntfs, but it does vfat just fine03:22
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sdfi install clamav and don tfind it03:22
dettoaltrimenti_im on a pretty old computer, it's xp but it may be FAT03:23
sdfi didn tfind it in application03:23
AaronfromchinaExIG: systemsettings03:23
stdinsdf: why did you install it?03:23
sdffor security03:23
sdfinstall it inubuntu03:23
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stdinsdf: ubuntu doesn't need a virus scanner03:23
Daisuke_Idoyou *are* aware that linux isn't the virus-ridden wasteland that windows is, where there's a trojan lurking around every corner...  right?03:24
sdfstdin really??03:24
dettoaltrimenti_heh yeah really sdf03:24
dettoaltrimenti_no viruses, no adware03:24
sdfstdin why03:24
FilthpigI'm trying to install wXP with kvm, but according to the howto I have to use sudo modprobe kvm-amd (since I have an amd processor), and that gives FATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/kvm/kvm-amd.ko): Operation not supported03:24
Filthpighttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM this is the howto03:24
stdinsdf: clamav is a scanner to find windows viruses (so you can protect the windows PCs on your network)03:24
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ExIGAaronfromchina: systemsettings under gnome?03:24
sdfhow can i remove it from terminal?03:24
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stdinsdf: "sudo apt-get remove clamav*"03:25
AaronfromchinaExIG: If you 've got KDE package installed, you may type systemsettings in terminal. Not sure if it helps.03:25
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jjjsdf, linux and opther *nix OS are relatively malware free because most of the malwares are created to target and work on Microsoft based computers...03:26
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sdfjjj ubuntu don t have any viruses why??03:27
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stdinand linux is more secure, even if you has a virus, it couldn't do much harm03:27
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:27
sdfdon tany one make any virus for attacking unix03:27
jjjautorun in ubuntu/kubuntu is also not that harmful...actually disabled...03:28
UKESN|JavaxI imagine they do sdf, but not for attacking regular users.03:28
stdinsdf: there is no point, it couldn't do much03:28
jjjprograms are also prohibited to run if it is not root or have no proper permission...03:28
stdinsdf: it would need to be installed and run by root to damage anything03:28
sdfany thanks for all03:28
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fdovingFilthpig: does your processor support virtualization? - http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/FAQ#head-a78f5f083749cb9c2e57d7d4efaf2ecf25b9db6003:29
Daisuke_Idowould require social engineering, so i expect it could become a bit of a problem as linux becomes mroe and more mainstream03:29
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jjjthe only thing that a linux user installing antivirus in its PC is to save and clean flashdisk and local hardware previously infested with malware...03:29
Filthpigfdoving: I'm getting a little help over at #kvm03:30
jjj"would require social engineering, so i expect it could become a bit of a problem as linux becomes mroe and more mainstream" as said by Daisuke_Ido...when a shell script is clicked, a msgbox will ask you to allow or deny it...this is something that Microsoft didn't do...03:30
Filthpigbut no, my cpu does not support virtualization03:30
fdovingFilthpig: good, then listen to them :)03:31
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eas_helo people03:32
jjjI suggest Avira antivirus for both Windows and linux...if you linux users wanted to install...03:32
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eas_i have just setup my pc with UBUNTU03:32
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eas_and i need help ...how can i run (.avi .wmv pla pla) it says to me one error ...the error is about codecs03:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:33
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stdineas_: read the message from ubotu03:34
joe2369The Feisty upgrade tool hosed one of my systems.  I think it was because I did an alternate install onto RAID+LVM2.  In any case, now I can't even get at the old data from another system.  The upgrader seems to have corrupted the LVM2 partition somehow.03:34
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jjjgstreamer-ffmpeg just search it in google or ubuntu packages...it will play anything...mp3, wma, avi, mpg, mov, divx, sorenson, almost unbeleivable...03:34
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stdinonly for gstreamer apps tho03:35
eas_can i upgrade my 6.06 ubuntu version to 7?03:35
joe2369As it stands now, I'm thinking the answer is either "don't use RAID+LVM2" or else "don't use Ubuntu"03:35
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:35
jthomaseas_: i wouldn't03:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:35
jjjyup yup but I think there is a ffmpeg for xine...03:35
stdineas_: you'll need to go to 6.10 first, then 7.0403:36
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jjjanyone here who can verify that there is an ffmpeg module for xine? what package name is that?03:36
jthomaseas_: a clean 6.06 should be upgraded to 6.10 and then to 7.04, but that first upgrade is known to have issues with any sort of 'strange' install, and the second upgrade seems to have its own issues as well03:36
jjjanyone here who can verify that there is an ffmpeg module for xine? what package name is that?03:36
stdinjjj: libxine1-ffmpeg03:36
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jjjif I install libxine1-ffmpeg will that be automatically working for kaffeine?03:37
jthomaseas_: if you've used Automatix at all, then for sure i would not upgrade.  either keep it as is, or download a new disk and reinstall.  you do have a seperate /home partition, right?03:37
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jthomasjjj: it should; it did for me03:37
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eas_the best way is to download the last version and make upgrade from cd?03:38
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nuxili am having problems setting up my nvidia card.. i got a gf8800.. should i use the nvidia-glx-new ?03:38
jjjok thanks guys for all the info about ffmpeg and xine...03:38
_JohnyHi. Can I upgrade to feisty with a downloaded cd, no using adept?03:38
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LjL_Johny: only with the Alternate CD03:39
LjL!alternate > _Johny    (_Johny, see the private message from Ubotu)03:39
_JohnyLjL, thank you03:39
busfahrer!alternate > busfahrer03:39
mpupuI'm running dapper and wanted to upgrade to feisty. However, last time I tried the upgrade to edgy it ruined my fonts, so I'm planning to do a reinstall. Can I do that without having to burn a new CD?03:39
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LjLmpupu: not easily03:40
LjL!install > mpupu    (mpupu, see the private message from Ubotu)03:40
dettoaltrimenti_on an old computer I'm trying to completely erase a hard drive, and when I try to make a new partition table it says 'it was not possible to make a new partition table." and when I right click, I can't format or delete the partitions03:40
BluesKajmpupu:  very doubtful03:40
dettoaltrimenti_any suggestions for erasing the drives?03:40
eas_thx guys for all help ...i will rejoin for any new problem03:41
savetheWorldAnyone know if there is an apt package for wireshark?03:41
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: perhaps doing it from a Live CD instead of from an OS that's on the drive itself? ;)03:41
jjjOh, libxine1-ffmpeg only exists for feisty...there is a package in debian.org but I'm not sure if it will run in hoary-edgy....03:41
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dettoaltrimenti_ljl im on a live cd, the drive is not mounted03:41
ads_hi im trying to acces my windows ntfs drive   ive mounted it and done a  chmod 755 -R /mywindowsmounthere    but i still am unable to   1. autocomplete directories using tab   2.copy anything from the mounted drive     permissions are still read only??  what can i do pls to be able to copy the files i need  pls?03:41
BluesKajwhat partition editor , dettoaltrimenti_?03:41
dettoaltrimenti_qtprted blueskaj03:41
stdinsavetheWorld: yeah, it's called wireshark03:41
LjL!info wireshark > savetheWorld03:41
LjL!packages > savetheWorld    (savetheWorld, see the private message from Ubotu)03:41
mpupualso, is there a tool like update-manager for kde?03:41
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jjjassuming there is no ffmpeg module, whats the next best module that will play most of the video and audio files?03:41
LjLmpupu: yes, it's update-manager-kde :-)03:42
jjjOh, libxine1-ffmpeg only exists for feisty...there is a package in debian.org but I'm not sure if it will run in hoary-edgy....03:42
BluesKajdettoaltrimenti_: GParted lve cd is much better , stable and very rffective.03:42
LjLmpupu: however it's not available in Dapper, only Edgy (updated edgy)03:42
jussi01!restricted | jjj03:42
stdinjjj: the OLD package is called "libxine-extracodecs" (from multiverse)03:42
ubotujjj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:42
jjjassuming there is no ffmpeg module, whats the next best module that will play most of the video and audio files?03:42
jjjok thanks again...03:42
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ads_why is chmod 777 or 755 not enabling me to gain access and copy files from my ntfs  drive??03:42
mpupuLjL: does it interact well with aptitude? I rely on aptitude to tell me which packages are installed just to satisfy dependencies, and remove them when they are no longer needed.03:43
X2BQuestion here people: I am using a surround soundsystem with 3 single jacks. If I want to change the volume via kmix, it only changes the volume of the front speakers. How can I change that??03:43
fdovingads_: ntfs doesn't do linux file modes. you have to look at mount options.03:43
dettoaltrimenti_blueskaj I don't have that on the live cd, this computer is very old and doesn't have an internet connection- any other ideas? can I use qtparted from the command line so I can get some errors, or read a log file?03:43
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strabesX2B: i'd also like to figure that out03:43
LjLmpupu, APT in Edgy and Feisty has that feature built-in, however i don't know how well it syncs its own database with aptitude's one (it does sync it to some extent, but i can't say it's flawless)03:44
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strabesX2B: when you change the volume of the master channel, it only changes the volume of the front speaker?03:44
LjLmpupu: you could ask Aptitude to give you a list of all automatically-installed packages, just in case the sync doesn't happen automatically03:44
X2BI wonder if this is a kmix problem or an ALSA problem...03:44
BluesKajdettoaltrimenti_: burn a GParted live cd on the pc you are using03:44
nuxilwhere is my inittab ?03:44
savetheWorldstdin: apt-get install didn't find it  ( I wouldn't have asked. )  :-)03:45
LjLmpupu: don't remember what the switch is called, but there is an "aptitude search ~x" to do that. google "aptitude manual"...03:45
nuxili see no such file in /etc03:45
strabesX2B: what sound card do you have? I'm looking to buy a sound card that has good linux support03:45
LjL!upstart > nuxil    (nuxil, see the private message from Ubotu)03:45
stdinsavetheWorld: yeah, it's in universe03:45
LjLnuxil: Edgy and later don't use sysvinit, which means there's no inittab (unless you upgraded from Dapper). even if you *had* one, it would be ignored except for the default runlevel03:45
X2Bstrabes: it is an onboard card. Came with the asrock s939 dual-sata2 mainboard03:45
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savetheWorldstdin: hmm - i thought I had universe enabled.. thanks.03:46
BluesKajdettoaltrimenti_: GParted and qparted are not the same thing03:46
strabesX2B: wow and it has surround sound? crazyness03:46
mpupuLjL: thanks for the help03:46
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dettoaltrimenti_blueskaj do they not both use the CLI parted?03:46
ads_was just checking man page on mount   what file is the file system type called for ntfs   ??     mount -t " ?? " /windowsdrive  /mountpoint     do i need to do anything else?03:46
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ads_-file name*03:46
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stdinads_: for normal read only, it's ntfs03:47
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savetheWorldstdin: I do have universe enabled, as far as I can tell.  I'm on dapper.  Might that be the problem? no wireshark for that release?03:47
BluesKajdettoaltrimenti_: never used the commandline on GParted, it's a gnome app , that just works03:48
Filthpigdoes anyone here have kvm experience?03:48
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ads_this stil doesnt let me copy my files i need to get off this drive?!    i used    sudo mount -t ntfs /windows drive /mountpoint03:48
epimethI found a kopete bug... where do I report it?03:49
savetheWorldkvm "keyboard video mouse switch" or kernel virtual machine?03:49
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stdinsavetheWorld: it may be still called "Ethereal" in dapper03:49
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Filthpigepimeth: doesn't kopete have a "bug report" option under help or smth?03:49
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savetheWorldstdin: Thats it.03:50
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jjjmaybe they have bug report link...03:50
stdinsavetheWorld: had to go look up the old name then :p03:50
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savetheWorldname changes. heh.  another gotcha... :-)03:51
_JohnyWhere do I find information about upgrading with the alternate cd?03:51
ads_sry to be a pain   i know there is a very fast way i can get my files off this hardrive ..   could some one hazard a solution pls..   what do i append to mount -t ntfs /windowsdrive /mountpoint     to allow me to copy files i need   chmod 777 will not suffice03:51
nuxilhmm.. how do i doit with upstart so i dont get a grafical login ?03:51
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stdinads_: try adding "-o umask=0000"03:52
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ads_will try now thank you03:52
stdin_Johny: you just put the CD in, and type "sudo apt-cdrom add" in konsole, then do a normal upgrade03:52
jjjtry this link for mounting ntfs...03:53
malik__is there any way that i can convert an NTFS partition to ext3 without destroying data on it?03:53
nuxilhow do i disable kdm so i can get a cli login03:53
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_Johnystdin, thanks :D03:53
malik__how do find out that i am using ext2 or ext3 file system?03:53
jjjhavent heard of ntfs to other filesystem converter...03:53
ollihey who play wormux games?03:53
_Johnymalik__, just put mount |grep ext03:53
stdinnuxil: there is an option for a console login in KDM03:54
nuxili cant use kdm..03:54
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baskitcaisemalik: snort answer=no it is impossible to convert03:54
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ads_stdin: thanks very much that did it    will have to remember that   thanks for fast response :D03:54
stdinads_: no problem03:55
nuxilstdin, i need to sort out my driver issue first.. my pc crashed when starting up X03:55
stdinnuxil: why not?03:55
nuxilthats why03:55
stdinnuxil: ahh, ok03:55
stdinnuxil: just boot in to recovery mode, that's the easiest way03:55
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jjjhas anyone here has experience installing kubuntu/ubuntu on a flashdrive?03:56
nuxilyes.. but i also want to disable kdm.. i never liked it, i like cli login03:56
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jjjhas anyone here has experience installing kubuntu/ubuntu on a flashdrive?03:57
stdinnuxil: well, you can do it from the recovery mode, just run "rm /etc/rc?.d/???KDM"03:57
nuxilyes i can do that :)03:57
stdintho there is a tool to do it too, just can't remember03:57
nuxilchmod -x :)03:58
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stdin"update-rc.d -f kdm remove"03:58
stdinman pages rock :)03:58
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BluesKajjjj: if anyone has had that experience they will say it..haven't heard of an install...used as a storage like a live cd ?04:00
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UKESN|Javaxwoot, beryl is fun04:01
stdin!away > Aelwyn04:01
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jjjI'm trying to use it as a rescue flashdrive for malware infested windows pc...04:02
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jjjbye bye people...04:03
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_JohnyCan I make the upgrade to fiesty still using the system, or should I let it do his job freely?04:09
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zylthinkingwhy console font changed after I compiled kernel
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rigobertobuenos dias04:11
Daisuke_Ido!es | rigoberto04:11
uboturigoberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:11
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_JohnyCan I make the upgrade to fiesty still using the system, or should I let it do his job freely?04:13
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stdin_Johny: up to you, but you should be able to use the system04:13
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_Johnystdin, thanks04:15
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gurtubayhola, si alguien pudiera decir en que link puedo bajar controladores para mi pc, acabo de instalas el kubuntu y no me esta dando la configuracion del monitor de plasma04:18
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|ericsson|!es > gurtubay04:18
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BluesKaj!es | gurtubay04:18
ubotugurtubay: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:18
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|ericsson|hoho, what would the default password in phpmyadmin be?04:19
|ericsson|Maybe I should just stick to things I know, leave this web-based graphical thingies alone? ;)04:21
BluesKaj|ericsson|: whatever pwd you use for other apps04:21
|ericsson|BluesKaj: No can do mate, won't work..04:21
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Ace2016Hi all04:24
Ace2016can someone help me to install kbfx04:24
hdxxAce2016: sudo apt-get install kbfx04:24
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Ace2016hdxx: it won't work that version is too old and won't work with this theme :(04:25
hdxxyou have feisty?04:25
Ace2016i don't know how to get checkinstall to make a deb and install it, i usually do ./configure make and then sudo checkinstall -D04:26
Ace2016hdxx: yup04:26
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ppewpif I want to play with both ubuntu and kubuntu, but I dont want to frig up either, am I best off running two different installations?04:26
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|ericsson|BluesKaj: Have you ever heard that telnet is needed to run mysql?04:27
Ace2016ppewp: not really, just install the packages you need and then choose the login manager and stuff you want, they can be changed later04:27
hdxxppewp: or install kde and gnome04:27
hdxxon one system04:27
hdxxAce2016:  there are  packets just for breezy.S04:27
ppewpI did that once, but all the kde apps showed up in the gnome menu, and same for kde with gnome apps, so it all went to hell04:28
Ace2016hdxx: not fair04:28
ppewpand the login screen changed to kubuntu, and I was left unsure how much was broken04:28
hdxxthen install 2 systems..04:28
Jucatoppewp: none of those mean that anything was broken04:28
ppewpI seee04:29
Jucato1. it's perfectly normal that GNOME apps would show up in KDE when installed, and vice versa04:29
hdxxAce2016: did you try .tar.gz?04:29
Ace2016ppewp: well you can do sudo update sudo update-alternatives --config bla, and do ls ls /etc/alternatives/ to see what you can change04:29
Ace2016hdxx: yup04:29
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Jucato2. possible when you installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu, you chose to use KDM as your login manager, so it changed to Kubuntu04:29
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RamunasI'm using Ubuntu, and I just installed kubuntu with aptitude to play with it, after removing it some of my fonts don't look the way they were04:30
ppewpthe login manager doesnt matter then except for looks?  they all do the same thing?04:30
Ramunashow could I get my old fonts back?04:30
Jucatoppewp: sort of. KDM or GDM are the display managers/login screens. they're practically the same... practically04:31
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ppewpnice, thanks04:31
Ace2016ppewp: but go with kdm if your going to use both04:31
ppewpoh :O04:31
Ace2016ppewp: if you use gdm you won't get shutdown and restart options in kde, you will only be able to logout04:32
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Ace2016Jucato: has that changed in feisty at all?04:32
JucatoAce2016: afaik it was fixed in Edgy, but the bug got back into Feisty04:32
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Jucatofixed = you can use GDM to login to a KDE session and still have the shutdown stuff04:33
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Ace2016bye all04:34
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BluesKaj|ericsson|: no haven't heard that , but my knowledge of that subject is practically nil04:35
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RytmenPinnenbah my adept manager is broken again after i tried to update wine the winehq way04:36
RytmenPinnen"The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem"04:36
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RytmenPinnenI tried both commands04:36
BluesKaj<---still struggling with digital sound output probs ...worked on edgy but no longer on feisty :( ...beginning to wonder if I should revert ...tired of all the crashes and hardware probs04:37
Jucato!adeptfix | RytmenPinnen04:37
ubotuRytmenPinnen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:37
crimsunBluesKaj: by all means, revert.  We support 6.10 for quite some time yet.04:37
crimsunBluesKaj: and if you're talking about an HDA card, it's known and fixed.04:37
RytmenPinnenstill doesnt work :/04:38
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BluesKajit's frustrating that an upgrade is so buggy when there appears at least to be very little difference04:38
JucatoRytmenPinnen: it would probably be good if you could use pastebin to show what error messages you get after entering those commands04:38
RytmenPinnenno error or anything04:39
BluesKajcrimsun: HDA card ?04:39
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BluesKaj<--soundcard is an onboard ati ixp - ac'97 IE958 configuration...seems pretty standard04:41
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RytmenPinnenthere's some error with source list04:41
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crimsunBluesKaj: right, that's AC'97-based, not HDA-based04:41
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soulrider_hey Jucato04:43
soulrider_hi BluesKaj04:43
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RytmenPinnenhow do I remove sources from the source list?04:44
BluesKajbut it has a spdif coaxial output connector that i was using to feed audio to my audio receiver dac input in the tv room. I prefer the sound from the pc vs the dvdplayer in the HT setup04:44
BluesKajhi soulrider_04:44
Jucatohi soulrider_! long time! :)04:44
RytmenPinnenthe problem came when I added some winehq sources to update to the lates version04:44
mischdeleRythmenPinnen: just put a # in front of the source you want to remove04:44
BluesKajor just hilight it and 'delete'04:45
RytmenPinnenbut I cant save04:45
BluesKajyou have to be root04:45
RytmenPinnenah right, so how did I do that again, sudo sources.list ?04:46
Daisuke_Idowoo!  score one for ubuntu04:46
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|ericsson|RytmenPinnen: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list04:46
BluesKajRytmenPinnen:  "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"04:46
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RytmenPinnenah right04:46
BluesKajin the runbox , RytmenPinnen04:47
BlOOd___alguien que sepa pasar de .mdf a .iso04:47
RytmenPinnenk the adept manager is back now, but I'd still like to update wine04:47
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Filthpig!.es | BlOOd___04:47
ubotuBlOOd___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:48
BlOOd___help me04:48
RytmenPinnenonly 9.33 is available and 9.36 is latest, now they wont help me over at winehq before i get the lates version04:48
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|ericsson|Alarm: ...04:48
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Daisuke_IdoRytmenPinnen: add the right source04:48
Daisuke_Idoit's over at wine's site04:48
Yagamiis there a way to install kubuntu into a lvm parition ?04:48
RytmenPinnenk, I have to do it some other way then so it doesnt get screwed up again04:49
Daisuke_Idoso...  who's going to support dell's linux initiative by actually buying one?04:49
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RytmenPinnenme if they offer something I like, I normally "build" my own computer tho04:50
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Daisuke_IdoRytmenPinnen: ubuntu's the chosen distro for the line, and it means fully working hardware04:51
fdovingYagami: yes, use the alternate install cd. it gives you that option among others.04:51
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido: I would if I could convince the wife to dump her old HP pavilion :)04:51
Daisuke_Ido(otherwise dell would have a support nightmare)04:51
FilthpigDaisuke_Ido: Which distro will they use?04:51
Yagamifdoving: damn ... another cd download ... thanks , gonna try it04:51
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Daisuke_IdoFilthpig: as i just said, ubuntu04:52
Filthpigah, sorry04:52
mischdelewell, i find the dell-linux thing a quite good thin, but actually i prefer completely blank computers...04:52
Alarm|ericsson|,  ?04:52
BluesKajmischdele: unfortunately most ppl perfer to have an OS when they buy the pc04:52
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|ericsson|Alarm: I "simulated" your USB problem ;)04:53
Daisuke_Idomischdele: i do too, but i would purchase one to show that there's real demand for linux desktops out there04:53
|ericsson|Alarm: Now I get permission denied when trying to read a usb-stick04:53
Alarmwelcome to the club04:53
Alarmi try to fix now something on cedega04:54
Alarmon kubuntu i didnt have any problem while playing soldier of fortune04:54
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Alarmnow on debian the game is running though, but on low frame rates04:54
Alarmsometimes 20fps04:54
|ericsson|Alarm: and I didn't resolve until I did /sbin/modprobe usb-storage04:54
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Alarmafter some tests nvidia driver seem to be installed correctly, i dont know if it has to do with the cedega settings, although i have exactly the same ase kubuntu04:55
mischdeleDaisuke_ldo: that's a point of course... but i still think the manufacturers should produce some pcs without any OS...04:55
Alarm|ericsson|,  do u think that this module could do also for me ?04:55
|ericsson|Alarm: It could, give it a try, just load it as root, not sudo04:55
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Alarmwell i use root on debian anyway04:56
Daisuke_Idomischdele: you can buy a dell with no os as well04:56
Alarmmodprobe usb-storage ?04:56
Daisuke_Idothis isn't anything new04:56
|ericsson|Alarm: yup04:56
Alarmis anything else to do ? restart or something04:56
|ericsson|Alarm: you could do with mount -a afterwards04:56
Alarmok lets see now04:57
FilthpigIf I had the money, I'd buy a Dell laptop with ubuntu (I wonder if they'll deliver Kubuntu, too?)04:57
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Alarmhow can i see the modules that are loaded ?04:57
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Alarmmount -a /media/win5 , or /dev/sda1 ?04:58
dwidmannAlarm: lsmod04:58
|ericsson|Alarm: just mount -a04:58
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Alarmnothing, still the same  , occupie04:59
mischdeleDaisuke_ldo: oh... i actually haven't looked really closely to the dell computers because they mostly are quite expensive pcs (at least for a student...) but if you can it's a really good thing...thx for the clue...04:59
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Alarma .hal-mtap.lock is a file that as a user i dont have access, is that something that is normal ?04:59
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Alarmi see also a ,hal-mtap04:59
Alarm.hal-mtab sorry04:59
bobesponjahey all04:59
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bobesponjaktorrent keeps on crashing here on feisty, anyone has the same problem?04:59
|ericsson|Alarm: hmm, could it be hal who has grabbed the drive?05:00
eas_hello i want the opinions of old and adva.. users what is the best? to keep UBUNTU 6.06 LTS or to format and put the last version (7)05:00
FilthpigI know that Dell are quite popular in the government and the schools in Norway, so maybe if they could provide their cheapest computers with Edubuntu it could be a real breakthrough for Linux, as the kids learn to handle linux instead of Windows from when they are six years old..05:00
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Alarm|ericsson|,  no clue dude, its just the files that i noticed now05:00
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jussi01!offtopic | Filthpig05:01
Alarm-rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2007-05-01 13:53 .hal-mtab05:01
Alarm---sr-x---  1 root root      0 2007-04-29 11:37 .hal-mtab-lock05:01
ubotuFilthpig: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:01
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|ericsson|Alarm: that does seem odd..05:01
jussi01bobesponja: yeah, its a known bug05:01
|ericsson|Alarm: have you got the usb-core loaded in addition to the usb-storage?05:01
bobesponjajussi01: anyway to fix it such as a recompile or stuff? or is there an update planned?05:01
Alarmusbcore               112644  5 usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd05:02
jussi01bobesponja: go to launchpad and search for ktorrent bugs - keep an eye on that05:02
Alarmusb_storage            71840  005:02
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RytmenPinnendo I have to write anything in the command path when creating a shortcut for steam?05:02
|ericsson|Alarm: ok, that's good05:02
mischdeleFilthpig: that of course would be quite nice, but the problem is that most schools don't want any OS apart from windows on their computer because they know that 99.9% of the students will have to handle windows later in their job and not linux... of course this would be different if there were more pcs with linux out in the world...05:02
|ericsson|Alarm: and when you lsusb you can see the drive?05:03
Alarmlet me check05:04
Alarmwell not really05:04
Filthpigmischdele: we can take that discussion in the offtopic channel ;)05:04
Alarmi see this: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000005:04
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|ericsson|Alarm: and nothing else?05:05
Alarmwell i see 4-5 lines like that and one05:05
eas_what is the best ? to keep ubuntu 6.06 and update them? or to download and put the ubuntu 7.0?05:05
AlarmBus 005 Device 004: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter05:05
mischdeleFilthpig: well yes ;) but i have to go now anyway... bye05:05
|ericsson|Alarm: that would be the drive..05:05
Filthpigeas_: unless you reallyreallyreally need the LTS, I'd say upgrade05:05
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eas_what is LTS? sorry i am newuser05:06
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Filthpiglong time support05:06
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Filthpigimo, you don't need it, really05:06
Hobbseeeas_: security fixes for 3 years05:06
Hobbseeinstead of 18 months05:07
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FilthpigI've upgraded kubuntu every time there was a release available, and I've never had any problems05:07
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neverblueI currently have a working Intel (on board) video card, I just added a ATI 8MB PCI into this system.  I followed the directions given on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide, but without success. I haven't tried the manual step, as I dont even know if I can install this card (for duals), someone know if i can?05:07
|ericsson|Alarm: if you un-plug your usb-drive, and then do lsusb, do you still see the same entries?05:07
eas_Hobbsee are u old linux user? and what is you opinion?05:07
Alarmi am reading now about the .hal file i mentioned05:08
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Hobbseeeas_: upgrade, unless it's for a server05:08
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n8k99eas_: never ask a lady to reveal her age05:08
n8k99especially if she has a large pointy stick05:09
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eas_thx anyway it is not for a server its for my pc05:09
Alarmlet me try something i renamed the files i i will reboot to see any changes05:09
eas_so i wave just to upgrade the 6.06 and i will be ok05:10
eas_have sorry05:10
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Hobbseeyeah, you should be fine05:10
eas_efharisto-thanks! i will be back for any other problem ...05:12
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|ericsson|eas_: 6.06 LTS is a safer bet for a production server rather than 7.04 (my opinion)05:12
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Alarm|ericsson|,  i rebooted, and the system created again the same files although i did remove them temporarly05:13
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sdfihi all05:13
neverbluecan you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to setup dual monitors?05:13
neverblueand do you have to leave X to run it?05:14
eas_no , no ..it is for my pc....but i will keep 6.06 cause of support(untill 2009) ...LTS05:14
sdfi want to download files from megaupload05:14
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sdfhow can i do this from ubuntu??05:14
soulrider_neverblue: you dont need xorg running to do that command05:14
soulrider_but im not sure if you can config dual screens with it05:14
neverbluei dont need?05:14
|ericsson|Alarm: weird :)05:14
eas_efharisto-thank you |ericsson| 205:14
sdfnote megaupload toolbar for internet explorer05:15
soulrider_neverblue: check out the forums, there are some good tutorials there05:15
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Alarmeas_,  parakalo05:15
sdfany one help05:15
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sdfhow can i do this?05:15
soulrider_lunch, bbl05:15
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|ericsson|Alarm: I thought if you do dmesg, to you see anything like: USB device is not claimed by any active driver.05:15
Alarm|ericsson|,  believe me u dont want to see my dmesg...05:16
|ericsson|Alarm: lol ;)05:16
eas_i am new user of LINUX O/S and i understund that windows it is a matrix loll so we have to learn linux hehehe05:16
RytmenPinnenum isnt jack installed by default?05:16
sdfany one help me??05:17
RytmenPinnenhmm, seems so ohwell05:17
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sdfany one search for me about winter sonata download by torrent05:17
sdfi search in google and i get any results05:18
sdfi don t05:18
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jussi01!offtopoic | sdf05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopoic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
fdovingsdf: i don't belive that has anything to do with kubuntu.05:18
jussi01!offtopic | sdf05:18
ubotusdf: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:18
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|ericsson|Alarm: I'm just throwing things out now, but have you got modprobe usb-ehci loaded?05:19
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|ericsson|Alarm: that's for usb2.005:19
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sdffdoving what do you mean with your speech??05:19
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Alarm|ericsson|,  idont see it loaded05:20
fdovingsdf: helping you google for torrents is not covered by the topic of this channel, "kubuntu support".05:20
sdffdove  ok sorry if annoy you05:20
|ericsson|Alarm: then load it :)05:20
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scastHow can I enable module UserDir on Apache running on Festy?05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb-ehci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
Alarmare u sure ?05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb-echi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
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|ericsson|Alarm: relatively05:20
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|ericsson|Alarm: Never ask me if I'm a 100% sure, because that seldom happends...trial and error my friend, trial and error :)05:21
fdovingAlarm: ehci_hcd05:22
Alarmyeap this one is loaded05:23
fdovingwhat was your problem?05:23
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Alarm|ericsson|,  one more that tries to help, shall i shoot ? :)05:23
Alarmfdoving,  are u a bit expirienced with usb devices and mounting ?05:24
RytmenPinnenum, I cant find libjack.so05:24
|ericsson|Alarm: fire away...05:24
RytmenPinnenits needed to run winecfg wich i need to config to run steam and day of defeat05:24
|ericsson|Alarm: you should have your little "problem" ready to copy & paste ;)05:25
fdovingRytmenPinnen: libjack0.100.0-dev if you're on feisty.05:25
aaroncampbellWhat is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app05:25
RytmenPinnenah I need the dev too05:25
Alarm|ericsson|, i do have it to copy paste it, i just wait from fdiaz  to answer if he is ok with mounting and usb, else there is no way to flood the channel again05:25
fdovingRytmenPinnen: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for files.05:25
aaroncampbellI have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print05:25
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fdovingAlarm: what's your problem?05:26
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Alarmwhen mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i can only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.05:26
Alarmin the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .05:26
Alarmen i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 as i said it works pretty well,. i can enter the partition,. but once i turn it of (even if i remove it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive05:27
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Alarmerror messages are like /media/win5 is occupied , or not enough permition05:27
fdovingAlarm: remove it from fstab. or comment the line, add # at the beginning.05:27
Alarmsome how my system is keeping somewhere stored that it MUST mount on /media/win5 . when i remove that directory i get the error that i it cant mount on /media/win505:28
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Alarmfdoving, Alarm> in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .05:28
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fdovingAlarm: ok, can you pastebin /etc/fstab ?05:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:29
Alarmbut u wont see anything according to the /dev/sda105:29
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fdovingAlarm: ok, what about 'dmesg|tail -n20'05:30
pulaski just noticed on my newly installed feisty fawn my thumb drive is not being mounted.  The live cd for kubuntu mounted it no problem.  Has anyone elese had this experience?05:30
lucas_Hi, need hepl for an ati / flgrx driver installation05:30
fdoving!ati | lucas_05:30
ubotulucas_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:30
MalMenhello, i am trying to make a live-cd based on Kubuntu, is possible install nvidia and ati drivers, and on boot know if have opengl support or not?05:30
lucas_i ve read the tuto on wiki.cchtml but it does work at all05:30
Alarmthe upper link05:31
lucas_ok thanks05:31
lucas_will check it out05:31
luapvlucas_: have you tried using envy?05:31
fdovingAlarm: then 'cat /media/.hal-mtab'05:31
Alarm|ericsson|,  does that file remind u something ? :)05:31
|ericsson|Alarm: yup05:32
lucas_luapv: no is that a good method for feisty ?05:32
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scastHow can I enable module UserDir on Apache running on Festy?05:32
luapvlucas_: i've used it to install the nvidia drivers, and it worked with no problems at all05:32
Alarmfdoving,  nothing returned05:32
luapvlucas_: you can get it from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:32
fdovingscast: 'sudo a2enmod userdir'05:32
lucas_ok but do you know wich version it installs ?05:33
|ericsson|Alarm: did you replace the newly created with the old ones again?05:33
scastThank you.05:33
luapvlucas_: btw, i'm on feisty05:33
Alarm|ericsson|,  yes05:33
henri_hi, could anyone tell me where to put own .sh files that should be executed before kde starts?05:33
lucas_I' mean which version of the driver 8.34.8 ? 8.xx.x?05:33
Alarmfdoving,  there is also a file: .hal-mtab-lock05:33
fdovingAlarm: ok. no pmount-hal mounted devices.05:33
fdovingAlarm: that means no kded/mediamanager mounted devices.05:34
luapvlucas_: it will download the latest drivers from ati05:34
Alarmfdoving,  thats something i was told that kde tried to mount them so udev couldnt05:34
lucas_hm, will this create incompatibilty issue when I upgrade th e kernel05:34
Alarmthats why i get the message could not open /media/win5 it is allready occupied05:34
lucas_luapv: I guess it does05:35
fdovingAlarm: do you have udev setup to mount it for you?05:35
Alarmwhen i do pmout /dev/sda1 i can enter the partition , but once i turn it off and on again , i have to pmount it again05:35
Alarmfdoving,  honestly , i didnt touch anything on udev05:35
pulaskithe 7.04 live cd mounted the usb thumb drive on the mount "point /media/THUMB DRIVE" but had no fstab entry.  Would creatin a mount point eg /mnt/THUMB for it on my installed 7.04?05:35
Alarmi dont know if it does something automatically05:35
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fdovingAlarm: good.05:35
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luapvhenri_: trying putting your .sh scripts in ".kde/Autostart/" which is located in your home folder05:35
sylvisjcan anyone help me with using httptunnel?05:36
henri_luapv: thanks!05:36
lucas_luapv: I'm not very confident with such scripts05:36
sylvisjIT's installed, but, well... I can't find any info on actually using it05:36
Alarmfdoving,  if u will find the solution , believe me many people in here would like to know what it was hehe including me :)05:37
luapvlucas_: sorry than, i can't be of help, as i have an nvidia card05:37
lucas_luapv:  thanks05:37
aaroncampbellWhat is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print05:37
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luapvlucas_: check out this link, maybe it can be of some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:37
aaroncampbellAre there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?05:38
fdovingAlarm: what does 'cat /sys/block/sda/removable' say?05:38
Alarmalarm@rockpc:~$ cat /sys/block/sda/removable05:38
Alarmthe drive is turned on05:38
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sylvisjLooking for someone who can help me use httptunnel05:38
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luapvlucas_: oops, i should have pasted this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=show&redirect=BinaryDriverHowto%2Fati05:38
fdovingAlarm: ok. it's marked as non-removable. that's your problem.05:38
henri_luapv: damn, the problem is that the command is "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 storage" so I have to have a moment for entering correct passwords...05:39
lucas_luapv: Thank you,05:39
fdovingAlarm: echo '/dev/sda1'|sudo tee -a /etc/pmount.allow05:39
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Alarmfdoving,  i was getting some strange dmesg yesterday about mounting it under windows and do a chkdsk , do u want me to check in my history to see if i can find them ?05:39
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lucas_luapv:  It's for edgy, and I don't know if it really apply to feisty05:39
Alarmalarm@rockpc:~$ echo '/dev/sda1'|sudo tee -a /etc/pmount.allow05:39
fdovingAlarm: good. now cycle the power or unplug-replug it.05:40
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Alarmok, the dialog box appeared to open it in a new window , Yes/cancle . i assume yes05:41
fdovingdoesn't matter, it's already mounted.05:41
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fdovingAlarm: the dialog didn't appear before, right?05:41
Alarmfdoving,  also an older dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18474/ with the volume is dirty05:41
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Alarmno , it was appearing , but when i was pressing i was getting . cannot open /media/win5 it is allready occupied05:42
RyManHey guys, I need a little help here.05:42
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Alarmehmmm, and i get exactly the same message now aswell05:42
RyManIt's K-Ryan05:42
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Alarmthe mount point /med.... is occupied05:42
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fdovingAlarm: so, what's mounted on /media/win5 ?05:42
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RyManAt sometime or another I probably mentioned that my DVD drive never opened, and it didn't have a little paper clip hole.05:42
Alarmand it tries to open it to : system:/media/sda105:42
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Alarmfdoving,  nothing05:42
RyManNow for some reason, on boot up, IT OPENED!05:42
RyManBut now it won't stay closed.05:42
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Alarmrockpc:/media# umount /media/win505:43
Alarmumount: /media/win5: not mounted05:43
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fdovingAlarm: ohwell.. umount isn't ware of pmounted devices. now unplug the device. - does /media/win5 exist?05:44
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Alarmbut as u said it has to do with kde and udev that try to mount it05:44
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sylvisjI could use help with httptunnel, if anyone could help me05:44
fdovingAlarm: no, udev doesn't do mounting.05:44
Alarmfdoving,  yes the win5 remains05:45
fdovingAlarm: ok. check the contents of win5.05:45
Alarmits empty05:45
fdovingAlarm: ls -la05:45
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Alarmalarm@rockpc:~$ ls -la /media/win505:45
Alarmtotal 805:45
Alarmdrwxrwxrwx  2 root root 4096 2007-05-01 13:13 .05:45
Alarmdrwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2007-05-01 18:32 ..05:45
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Bluetoothhi all05:47
Bluetoothis anybody good in PHP and PEAR?05:47
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aaroncampbellBluetooth: probably the people in ##PHP05:47
GrahamI'm alright with PHP.05:47
Alarmthats what i get with ls -la05:47
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BluetoothI need to install some PEAR packeges to my server05:48
Alarmof course the drive is turned off now05:48
aaroncampbellWhat is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print05:48
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aaroncampbellAre there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?05:48
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kc0ekshello all :) recent windows convert, figured id come here and say hey.05:49
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fdovingAlarm: does cat /proc/mounts say anything about sda? (you don't need to paste it).05:50
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Alarmnot at all05:50
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fdovingAlarm: what if you delete the win5 directory, then plug the device in?05:52
|ericsson|Hi there kc0eks, welcome..05:52
Alarmit tells me it cannot open /media/win505:52
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fdovingAlarm: re-check /etc/fstab05:52
fdovingAlarm: go all the way up, and all the way down.05:53
Alarmnothing about sda1 or win505:53
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fdovingAlarm: it shouldn't tell you that. pmount auto-creates the mountpoints.05:53
Alarmwell, so what should i try now05:54
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fdovingAlarm: what version of kubuntu is this?05:54
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Alarmits not kubuntu, debian etch05:54
highlander_que es lo nuevo en linux?05:54
fdovingAlarm: ah. that explains it. i have no clue what's the default way to handle this in debian etch. ask #debian05:55
Alarmit would be the same thing on kubuntu , its debian undernieth05:55
fairowhere can i get a codec .3gp for mplayer?05:55
fdovingAlarm: no. it's not exactly the same. ask #debian.05:55
Alarmfdoving,  believe me, they couldnt help me either :)05:56
Alarmits now 2 days i am runing in forums, google and channels in freenode with that issue05:56
fdovingget kubuntu.05:56
Alarmi had05:56
Alarmalso i had dapper05:57
|ericsson|!es > highlander05:58
highlander_quiciera saber que es lo nuevo en kubuntu05:58
scasthighlander_: #kubuntu-es05:58
scast!spanish | highlander_05:58
ubotuhighlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:58
Alarmedgy was good, for some reason feisty didnt like my system that much05:58
Alarm|ericsson|,  we are still in the same spot where we started from :)05:58
|ericsson|Alarm: not really...now we know that your system doesn't like you anymore :)05:59
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|ericsson|I'm not doing anything productful atm, just sitting and glaring into the screen, following mysterious USB problems ;)06:00
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Alarmi also read this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/12706:00
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Alarmalthough its about card readers06:01
aaroncampbellWhat is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print06:02
aaroncampbellAre there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?06:02
|ericsson|flashdrive -fstype=vfat,rw,gid=100,umask=002 :/dev/flashdrive06:02
highlander_tengo un problema con el Amarok de Kubuntu, no puedo reproducir MP306:02
|ericsson|Alarm: what was your umask set to?06:02
Alarmi dont have a fstab entry06:03
fdovingaaroncampbell: did you try google? or freshmeat? or packages.ubuntu.com ?06:03
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LjL!es | highlander_06:03
ubotuhighlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:03
LjL!mp3 > highlander_    (highlander_, see the private message from Ubotu)06:03
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aaroncampbellfdoving: I tried looking through all the packages, and even searched for "java" in them, but didn't really see anything.06:03
scasthighlander_: te estamos mandando a #kubuntu-es porque en realidad no hablamos espaol.06:04
|ericsson|Alarm: I don't get it, your problem is the weirdest I've seen in a long time ;)06:04
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Alarmmaybe something screwed up the system06:05
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|ericsson|Alarm: Have you tried using flash-sticks, usb-memories?06:05
Alarmi dont got any06:05
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Alarmi google about that occupied error but i dont see anything at all06:07
|ericsson|Anyone know what kind of port localhost:ipp is?06:07
fdoving|ericsson|: grep ipp /etc/services06:08
fdovingit's printing.06:09
fdovingprobably cups.06:09
|ericsson|fdoving: thought I'd blocked cups through bastille :/06:09
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|ericsson|fdoving: but right you are, Internet printing..06:09
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Alarmfdoving,  when pressing on the "OK" on the dialog box that appears when i turn on the drive, what command does it run on the backround06:10
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Alarmi dont really know how or what way should i look about it in google06:11
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highlander_si los vi gracias ljl06:11
fdovingAlarm: do you run kde in debian?06:11
fdovingAlarm: then #debian-kde is good.06:12
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Alarmokie :) i will try also there06:12
fdovingAlarm: in kubuntu it runs 'pmount-hal' with some hal url and options.06:12
fdoving!away > aelwyn06:12
highlander_no problem i estand tha englsh, but no much06:13
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Alarmfdoving,  when i run pmount /dev/sda1 it works well , it mounts without any problem06:13
Alarmeven if i remove it safely , and then turn it off/on again , i have to manualy pmount it again06:14
|ericsson|Anyone knows how to run in KDE gui as root?06:14
fdovingAlarm: yeah, but its about hal policies etc. ask #debian-kde they probably know. i don't have any debian machine to help you figure out how this is handled in debian.06:14
Alarmdebian-kde seems to be dead06:14
Alarmsudo app06:14
fdovingAlarm: then wait for someone to answer.06:15
|ericsson|Alarm: need root :s06:15
Alarm|ericsson|,  install debian hehe06:15
|ericsson|Alarm: I have it on another machine, but as usual..no gui :)06:15
Alarmi remember when samba was asking me for the root password  :)06:15
Alarmon kubuntu i mean .06:16
Alarmit couldnt accept my sudo pass06:16
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|ericsson|Alarm: ...so, how to you use filemanager e.t.c as root? ;)06:16
Alarmdude its like 5 months ago, i cant remember what i did to have root06:17
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muralihello all.. i'm a newbie.. and i need help to configure internet over a LAN. .. where mine is the only linux machine,where as all the others are windows machines including the server..06:18
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MidMarkmurali: the problem'06:20
highlander_who know to angeltronix?06:20
muraliMidMark: the problem is that i'm not even able to ping other computers over the network,let alone get access to the internet.. the server runs DHCP06:22
|ericsson|Alarm: kdesu konqueror, that worked ;)06:22
muralii tried runnin sudo dhclient eth0..but it doesn work.. i've an external NIC06:22
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Alarm|ericsson|,  sudo kate would also work06:22
|ericsson|Alarm: not to access a root dir as root user ;)06:23
Alarmoh thats what u wanted06:23
|ericsson|Alarm: kind of ;)06:23
MidMarkmurali: your ethernet card is recognized? Can you see eth0?06:23
highlander_how can i install kubuntu or ubuntu in my telephon?06:23
MidMarkif yes just configure it via system-settings->network06:24
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amigraveif I want to convert a ubuntu installation to kubuntu, all I have to do is to install the package kubuntu-desktop or is not as easy ?06:26
Daisuke_Idothat's all you ahve to do06:26
Daisuke_Idoand select kde when you start up06:27
muraliMidMark: well,it does show eth0.. but i'm a little lost here.. i've an inbuilt NIC which doesn work and the other is the external.. i've a dual boot system with windows n the net seems to work jus fine on windows.. but i'm facing problems on kubuntu.. do u think it mite be a driver prob?06:27
Daisuke_Idoso there's one tiny extra step, no problem though06:27
amigraveand will kdm be used or gdm  ?06:27
RytmenPinnenwhat exactly I supposed to write in the "command" for making a shortcut to steam06:27
MidMarkmurali: no if you see eth0 then as said go to system settings->network and configure it, that's all06:27
Daisuke_Idoi *think* it still uses gdm, i'm not 100% on that though06:27
RytmenPinnenright now I have wine /home/alex/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe but that doesnt work06:27
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amigraveDaisuke_Ido: I guess it can be changed in /etc/default  ?06:28
Daisuke_Idoput the path in quotes06:28
Daisuke_Idoamigrave: i would imagine06:28
Daisuke_IdoRytmenPinnen: wine "/home/alex/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe"06:28
MidMarkamigrave: there is a problem with kubuntu+gdm->you will have only end session and not reboot, halt ecc.06:28
Daisuke_Idoit sees the space between program and files06:28
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MidMarkthis is just fixed and will reach updates soon I hope06:29
|ericsson|omg, now I'm lost again...can't backup complete dir...06:29
Daisuke_Idoamigrave: so apt-get install kdm06:29
RytmenPinnenaha thanks06:29
|ericsson|sudo tar -g /var/log/tar-incremental.log -zcvf /backup/backedup_file.tar.gz /home/ericsson/folder_to_backup/   <--- Wouldn't that do the whole folder_to_backup (including files)?06:29
holgidoes anyone know ho to active search input field in the kde search menu or is this just a special suse feature06:30
muraliMidMark:i did tht and it still doesnt work... is there something else needed jus cuz the server is runnin windows on it??06:30
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MidMarkwhat doesn't work? Internet? give more infos06:32
amigraveDaisuke_Ido: MidMark : Thanks all.06:32
RytmenPinnenDaisuke_Ido: I'm getting a error now when using the shortcut but starting the good old "cd into directory way" still works06:32
RytmenPinnendo I need a workpath maby?06:33
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fausthi, anyone knows how to type ESC key using ascii or unicode? my keyboard isnt typing somekeys but i dont know how to type them using something like alt+code06:34
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:35
Daisuke_IdoRytmenPinnen: the other option is to put \ after program (Program\ Files)06:36
Daisuke_Idoat least, i think that should works06:36
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muraliMidMark:i cannot even ping other computers on the network,let alone havin internet access06:36
MidMarkmurali: if dhcp doesn't work try to set manually ip, netmask and gateway06:37
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bonaldo2000Does anyone have any ideas as to why my vlc player garbles the sound of some .avi files? Kaffeine plays the same files fine...06:44
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radiohulluhi all06:47
_Johnyradiohullu, HI06:47
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radiohulluhowto install Kubuntu 7.04 from commandline (old way) not inside kde?06:48
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_JohnyHello... I'd need the default bash.rc config file, because maine just dissapeared. Anyone could help?06:48
korobaseMP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC....06:48
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korobaseHelp me.all.06:49
korobaseHow to fix this bug?06:49
amigraveheard of the rumour about dell shipping pc's preinstalled with ubuntu ?06:49
korobaseMP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC....06:49
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_Johnyamigrave, Have you?06:49
korobaseHow to fix this bug?06:49
radiohulluhowto install Kubuntu 7.04 from commandline (old way) not inside kde? is there old fashion way to install kubuntu? anyone?!06:50
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fdovingradiohullu: yes there is, the alternate cd/iso does that.06:50
amigrave_Johny: well I call it rumours : http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html06:50
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korobaseAny one can help me?06:51
highlander_como puedo instalar Kubuntu o ubuntu en mi telefono movil?06:51
fdovingradiohullu: oem cd? the alternate installer cd.06:51
amigravebut if it turns out to be true, it would be cool that both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop being installed, so people can discover kde out of the box when shipping their ubuntu pc06:52
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wirelessmonkeykorobase: what do you need?06:52
_Johnyamigrave, Couldn't it be possible - Ubuntu is the most used Linux ditro. And If I were in Dell I'd seriously think about putting it on the line...06:52
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amigrave_Johny: I know, I'm just saying that if ubuntu was installed on those pc's, if kubuntu-desktop was installed too, people would have the choice to discover kde when selcting it when starting their session06:54
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wirelessmonkeyI'm with you on that one amigrave06:55
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wirelessmonkeygnome for the less-saavy new users, for ease.06:55
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_Johnyamigrave, I'd prefer to say , It's more important they get to know the power of Linux at all, but I do know, on the other hand It'd be rather impossible without a powerful desktop06:56
tom_hey im having a problem, when compiz/beryl is enabled, my window contents dont seem to refresh (e.g. the progress bar stops moving, but the title still changes so i know its still working)06:57
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_JohnyCan anyone just paste me the default config of the bash.rc file?06:58
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NightBird_Johny, if you want to restore your bash.rc file, couldn't you just reconfigure?06:59
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scastNightBird: he probably just deleted it.06:59
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sdfhow can i change splashscreen in ubuntu?07:00
_JohnyNightBird, I could If i know how - I've already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash"...07:00
NightBirdscast, yes, wouldn't a reconfigure restore it?07:00
scastApparently not.07:00
NightBird_Johny, hm....07:00
_Johnysdf, !google07:00
sdfsplash screens07:00
NightBirdwhat about removing then reinstalling it?07:00
sdfplease johny07:00
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_JohnyNightBird, You mean removing the entire shell and then reinstalling?07:01
sdfthis room for help for ubuntu??07:01
NightBirdsdf, this is a room for help with kubuntu, yes...07:01
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wirelessmonkeysdf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-860336ddfd132cb25712427a8c583398cee6fd9607:02
NightBird_Johny, I don't know.... I would think that reconfiguring would set it up...07:02
sdfi want to know how can i change splash screens??07:02
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pdallagoi just installed kubuntu feisty07:02
wirelessmonkeyhope you like it pdallago07:02
pdallagoeverything was working fine, until i had to reset the machine07:02
NightBirdsdf, in the system settings07:03
NightBirdthere should be a splash screen section07:03
pdallagonow I'm stuck with a resolution of 640x48007:03
sdfin ubuntu??07:03
pdallagoit seems like something screwed up my xorg.conf07:03
pdallagoI think can fix it myself, but I'm wondering why this happened07:03
Daisuke_Idoyou know, i wonder...  the people that have issues with the OS come here for help, it makes me wonder how many people are out there using it with no problems07:04
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sdfnightbird: how can i do it in ubuntu?07:04
NightBirdpdallago, did you install your video card drivers before the restart?07:04
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NightBirdsdf, have you tried asking in #ubuntu?07:04
highlander_como puedo instalar linux en mi celular?07:04
NightBirdI know that kubuntu has it in the system settings task pane07:04
pdallagoNightBird: no, but it was working when i first logged in07:04
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pdallagoNightBird: the only thing I did is change the default resolution07:04
wirelessmonkeypdallago: what video card? Do you have the drivers installed?  It can happen if the driver module changed.07:05
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NightBirdyeah, I know my drivers when they installed did an auto detect then chose the worst setting for my setup07:05
pdallagowirelessmonkey: i have an ATI. How could the driver change after installation if I didn't install any new packets?07:05
NightBirdI had to go in and fix that07:05
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aaroncampbellWhat is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print07:06
aaroncampbellAre there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?07:06
wirelessmonkeypdallago: did you install the flgrx driver, or leave with the default?07:06
aaroncampbellthat are in the repositories?07:06
sdlnxgkhow can you tell if your SLI video cards are working??07:06
pdallagowirelessmonkey: I was using the default driver, which worked fine after the installation07:06
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stoftaaroncampbell: jedit maybe? text editor made in java07:06
NightBirdaaroncampbell, like OpenOffice?  Though I think Open Office is more of a system that makes use of Java, and isn't based off of it...07:07
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radiohulluthank you for all helping, bye07:08
aaroncampbellNightBird: I thought of Open Office, but when you run it, ps aux | grep -i java doesn't show it, so I don't think that's what I'm looking for07:08
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wirelessmonkeypdallago: you win the weird award... does your xorg.conf have other available resolutions? I've found that the dpkg reconfigure often hoses my nvidia setup. I'm afraid I'm at a loss.07:09
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pdallagowirelessmonkey: no, it seems all the other modelines have gone away07:10
pdallagoi have just checked and I don't have direct rendering enabled07:10
pdallagoso I'm not exactly sure what drivers I'm using07:10
pdallagobut according to the X log file, it should be the RADEON driver07:10
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ghost07How eveeryone.07:11
ghost07How do I jump to another channel?07:11
ghost07I want to go to #ubuntu-bugs07:11
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holycowtype in /join #ubuntu-bugs07:12
NightBird/join #otherchannel?07:12
ghost07thank you holy cow. :)07:12
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wirelessmonkeypdallago: in xorg.conf section "device" should have Identifier and Driver07:12
pdallagowirelessmonkey: yes, i have driver "ati" in there07:12
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aaroncampbellstoft: I don't see jedit in the repos.  I see jed, but that doesn't seem to be java based07:14
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sdlnxgkpdallago, have you tried to use envy??07:15
sdlnxgkI love it works great every time..07:15
pdallagosdlnxgk: what's that?07:15
yurimxpxmanhow can I assign the multimedia keys for use with Amarok?07:16
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stoftaaroncampbell: your right, neither do I. thought it would be there. they have debs at their site: http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download07:16
sdlnxgkit's an installer for nvidia and ati drivers07:17
pdallagosdlnxgk: I'd rather not use that kind of stuff, since it means trouble when upgrading later07:17
amigrave_Johny: seems not to be a rumor afterall : http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx07:17
pdallagoI have a bunch of lines like this in my Xorg.0.log07:17
pdallago(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (width too large for virtual size)07:17
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pdallagoso it seems the virtual size is the problem07:17
sdlnxgkpdallago, what do you mean???07:18
sdlnxgkpdallago, i upgrade just fine using it..07:18
sdlnxgkI just dropped into a shell after installing then restarted xserver and BAM was up and running in two mins07:19
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RytmenPinnenis there a way to request package update for the adept servers? ardour has just release version 2.007:19
pdallagosdlnxgk: you know how automatix or easyubuntu mess with your system? I was thinking this was similar07:20
pdallagosdlnxgk: but I'll take a look later07:20
sdlnxgkpdallago, when you want to upgrade just clear the drivers from menu07:20
sdlnxgkpdallago, then upgrade and rerun envy :)07:21
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pdallagommh, I think I know why X is screwing things up07:21
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pdallagomy video card has a tv output, which doesn't handle more than 640x48007:21
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aaroncampbellIf I need to have java set up on my system (to run a couple applications), which one should I get from the repos?  It seems like there are multiple options?07:22
pdallagoso maybe that's why it doesn't let me use more than that07:22
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pdallago(even though I'm currently using a monitor)07:23
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holycowaaroncampbell, latest one, java607:24
holycowand you probable want the jre (java runtime envrionment)07:24
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aaroncampbellholycow: So use SUN?07:24
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aaroncampbellvs blackdown07:24
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holycowjava is now gpld, no reason to use blackdown anymore (or soon will be or something like that)07:25
holycowthus, yes07:25
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sdlnxgkanyone using SLI mode??07:27
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aaroncampbellthanks holycow, that's exactly what I needed07:27
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jesusiyohow install wine and universe07:30
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stoftjesusiyo: by universe do you mean the universe repository?07:34
holycowaaroncampbell, 'welcome07:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:34
highlander_hola a todos07:35
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RytmenPinnenWill I need -dev of requiered libs to compile stuff07:38
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RytmenPinnenI'm gonna try to compile ardour 2.0.... it doesnt say anywhere that i need them but for compileing the older versions it said i needed them07:39
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stoftRytmenPinnen: probably yes.07:42
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shampoonatorhi, can i someone set the montitor hz / reslotution in the xorg.conf?07:46
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RytmenPinnenshampoonator:  you got that annoying resolution when activating nvidia drivers problem?07:47
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shampoonatorRytmenPinnen.. well now that you mention it.. i activated nvidia drivers yes oO07:48
RytmenPinnenand you're stuck on low resolution?07:48
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RytmenPinnentry following this07:49
shampoonatornow im stuck at low hz07:49
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:49
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RytmenPinnenI had the exact same problem yesterday, I didnt manage to fix the problem but today everything just works for some reason07:50
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shampoonatorthx.. ill be back07:50
highlander_necesi que alguien me pueda decir como instalar kubuntu en mi telefono movil07:51
pablin29help hp laserjet 1020 how to07:51
pablin29in feisty fawn 7.0407:51
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pablin29help please07:53
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pablin29hp laserjet 1020 configuration07:53
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highlander_cual es la direccion de irc en Managua,Nicaragua?07:55
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stoft!es | highlander_07:56
ubotuhighlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:56
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redfiveanyone know where i can get good widgets for KDE?07:58
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roguejedixEr, could someone tell me why my nvidia drivers won't enable?08:00
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redfivei had to download the ones on the nvidia site and install them08:00
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roguejedixIs it hard?08:01
emonkeywhich kernel should be taken with an AMD sempron?08:01
highlander_nos vemos08:01
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redfivestill amd08:02
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RytmenPinnenarent sempron 64bits? or am I wrong08:02
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redfiveshould be08:02
reagleBRKLNdoes kpowersave have a dcop interface? I want to crontab a suspand to ram at midnight08:02
redfiveyou will probebly have to recompile after the fact08:02
pdallagoI found the culprit for my problem08:02
emonkeymodel name      : AMD Sempron(tm)   2400+08:02
redfiveget the headers and enable the sempron arch08:02
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RytmenPinnenisnt it possible to use the regular kernel that well, I use :P08:03
RytmenPinnen(im no expert and I dont really know what im talking about) :D08:03
pablin29hp laserjet 1020 help08:03
stoftpdallago: what was it?08:03
pdallagothe Monitor & Display settings in the kde configuration panel is messing my xorg.conf08:03
redfiveuse the amd64 kernel08:03
shampoonatorRytmenPinnen:  thx this         Option "UseEdidFreqs" "no"  seems to work08:03
pdallagoIt changes the virtual size back to "640 480" so I cannot get resolutions bigger than that08:03
pdallagois there any way I can restore the original xorg.conf I had after installation?08:04
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shampoonatorpdallago:  yeah the kde kontroll center is bullshit08:04
stoftreagleBRKLN: open "kdcop" and explore the dcop interface of all apps that have one08:04
pdallagoshampoonator: actually, I'm using the kubuntu one08:04
roguejedixredfive: You wouldn't happen to know if GeForce2 is still suported by the very latest drivers, would you?08:04
reagleBRKLNstoft: cool, thanks08:04
RytmenPinnenI'm glad you got out of what mess, I was utterly frustrated yesterday when I was locked on 640x480 reolution its extreemly hard to google or do anything with that resu08:04
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