[12:14] <VSpike> |ericsson|: In fact, the menu is different: Settings Help Edit View Tools
[12:14] <|ericsson|> don: then there is another nvidia package
[12:14] <don> i have real good ones but they are ATI
[12:14] <VSpike> |ericsson|: and the Settings-> Toolbars contains: Search, Detailed List View, and Extra.
[12:14] <Chris73> don: in that file goto section device and change nv to nvidia
[12:14] <don> card works well with windows
[12:15] <chemist109> don: install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:15] <Etokura> amrush, I honestly don't know, sorry
[12:15] <Chris73> don; that way you'll be using the nvidia driver when you restart X
[12:15] <don> i tried ill try again i am shure that is it
[12:15] <Etokura> Gnome gave me alot of problems, so I switched to KDE
[12:16] <|ericsson|> don: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:16] <stoft> nn ppl
[12:16] <|ericsson|> sorry chemist109, didn't see you there ;)
[12:16] <don> I load itin adept what else todo?
[12:16] <|ericsson|> VSpike: that's really creepy :)
[12:16] <chemist109> don: be sure that you have also install linux-restricted-modules
[12:16] <don> oh that is my command!
[12:17] <don> thanks
[12:17] <|ericsson|> stoft: You interested in buying a USB drive from Alarm?
[12:17] <Chris73> don: it's working?
[12:17] <stoft> |ericsson|: sure thing! ;)
[12:17] <VSpike> |ericsson|: yeah :) It's like it's kicking off in a different mode or something
[12:17] <chemist109> |ericsson|: 's alright
[12:17] <|ericsson|> stoft: think you could get it quite cheap by now ;)
[12:17] <stoft> |ericsson|: trying to get me while I'm sleepy and weak? ;)
[12:17] <don> still trying
[12:17] <anon32> how do I adjust swappiness? and what's a sane amount?
[12:18] <|ericsson|> stoft: you know it.. ;)
[12:18] <stoft> :)
[12:18] <don> i still like kubuntu best
[12:18] <|ericsson|> VSpike: freak mode..
[12:18] <Chris73> don: you'll need to restart X to have the driver loaded
[12:18] <don> how
[12:18] <stoft> anon32: for me sane is >= ram, some suspend modes write to ram to swap, you don't want it to be smaller in that case.
[12:19] <anon32> stoft, not amount of swap... I want to adjust how aggressively it swaps
[12:19] <don> what is restart x?
[12:19] <|ericsson|> don -> ctrl+alt+backspace, but that shuts down X w/o warning
[12:19] <stoft> anon32: ah, no idea, sorry
[12:19] <don> ok
[12:19] <stoft> oh well, going to bed, dead tired.
[12:20] <don> here goes
[12:20] <|ericsson|> stoft: so that means that you'll take the drive? ;))
[12:20] <|ericsson|> I think we'll gonna have nightmares about his drive
[12:20] <chemist109> don:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[12:21] <Chris73> don: that's the link i was looking for :-)
[12:21] <don> where do I get linux restricted modules?
[12:21] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[12:22] <don> Thank  you Chris
[12:22] <Chris73> don: you got the resolution you want now?
[12:22] <andre> hey guys,  can anyone recommend a good site on how to install bugzilla on ubuntu?
[12:22] <chemist109> don: sudo apt-get install linux-restricte-modules-`uname -v`
[12:23] <don> ok
[12:23] <|ericsson|> apt-get install more-memory doesn't work :(
[12:23] <chemist109> don: those marks arount uname -v are backticks, not single quotes
[12:23] <lontra> andre: why would you install bugzilla?
[12:23] <chemist109> don: you get them from the upper left key (the one with the ~)
[12:23] <Mountainman> .
[12:24] <chemist109> don: I also misspelled restricted
[12:24] <andre> lontra: for bug reporting purposes of my project,  why else?
[12:24] <don> ok
[12:24] <Amaranth> Can someone unban purpleposeidon for me? I've tested him, exploit fixed.
[12:24] <chemist109> don: You also need to reboot if you install those kernel modules
[12:25] <Amaranth> LjL: thanks
[12:25] <don> ok
[12:27] <|ericsson|> I've got some weird process running: ericsson  6597  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Apr30   0:00 [netstat]  <defunct> Anyone know what that is?
[12:28] <Filthpig> ...
[12:28] <Filthpig> well
[12:28] <Filthpig> things SEEM to be back to normal
[12:28] <pythonist> Hello .. Viva ubuntu
[12:28] <|ericsson|> I have bastille who refuses to die, could this "defunct" netstat cause problems? Starting to think I need to shutdown it's server :(
[12:29] <Filthpig> my system seemed to get a real wedgie with that update
[12:32] <elspuddy> hi i'v just installed kubuntu and i was wondering if there is a linux version of floats moble agent or some sore of varent ?
[12:32] <Plextor> hi... when i reboot my pc, X doesn't load automatically, i have to enter login and password, then type "startX"... can i change something so it will be done automatically?
[12:33] <shad0w> i got the same question as Plextor
[12:36] <Sanne> Plextor: in Kubuntu the program responsible for the graphical login is kdm. Do you have it installed? does the command give you any output: dpkg -l kdm | grep ^ii
[12:36] <amrush> Etokura .. I'm tired of this .. I will try to find a solution later .. thanks for your help .. :)
[12:37] <Etokura> No problem amrush.. Sorry I couldn't help you more
[12:37] <amrush> it's alright :) .. night
[12:37] <Etokura> Good night
[12:38] <Powerking89670> Can someone point me in the direction of the best way to update from Dapper Drake to Fiesty Fawn. Ive looked on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu sites. the Ubuntu site suggest gksu but Kubuntu does not recognize this command
[12:38] <shad0w> i have the kdm as my default
[12:39] <shad0w> but after i rebooted the pc a couple of times it stopped working
[12:39] <shad0w> and now i have to select the safemode grub boot option and it takes me to the terminal and from there i can run kdm
[12:40] <don> chris it said invalid install
[12:41] <Plextor> Sanne, yes it is installed
[12:41] <Sanne> shad0w: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol
[12:42] <Sanne> Plextor: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol
[12:42] <Sanne> shad0w: sorry, meant Plextor, but you can also check, of course ;)
[12:42] <Sanne> Plextor: tell me when ready
[12:43] <pingveno> I'm trying to get eric4 installed on my computer, but it needs qscintilla2. I don't think QScintilla2 is in the feisty repository. Should I just install from source?
[12:43] <Plextor> Sanne, system administration -> login manager?
[12:43] <pingveno> Or am I missing something
[12:43] <Plextor> Sanne, well yes i'm in there
[12:44] <shad0w> and where is it supposed to say if its set to start at boot time?
[12:44] <pingveno> oops, I think I found it
[12:44] <Sanne> Plextor: close ;). System administration -> System Services. Find kdm. It says here: kdm Yes running
[12:44] <Skyblast> !mythtv
[12:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:45] <Plextor> Sanne, ok thnx, found it
[12:45] <Sanne> Plextor: what does it say?
[12:45] <Plextor> i changed it to load when booting
[12:45] <Plextor> it wasn't checked
[12:46] <Sanne> Plextor: ah, then maybe that was the problem. Hope it works now :)
[12:46] <shad0w> i dont know im having second thoughts about checking it
[12:46] <Plextor> Sanne, going to reboot, thanks )
[12:46] <Sanne> shad0w: it's not dangerous ;)
[12:46] <Sanne> Plextor: good luck
[12:46] <shad0w> because it starts by default with the other boot option grub gives me but freezes when its there
[12:46] <shad0w> i know its not dangerous but what if the same thing happens
[12:46] <shad0w> then im screwed
[12:47] <Sanne> shad0w: ok, then you may have problems... whish I could help more.
[12:48] <shad0w> thanks anyway
[12:48] <Sanne> shad0w: if nobody here knows, I would search at launchpad for bugs, and ubuntuforums if somebody already has the same problem.
[12:48] <Sanne> shad0w: yw :)
[12:49] <shad0w> wel it doesnt really matter im used to having to get to a login screen with Slax anyway
[12:50] <pingveno> I'm trying to install qscintilla2 and its python bindings alongside qscintilla 1
[12:50] <pingveno> Is there anything special I need to do?
[12:51] <Sanne> shad0w: ok :) I agree, typing startx is not too bad, I also did it for some years.
[12:53] <Sanne> pingveno: if it's from the official repositories, it should work, or tell you if it wants to remove qscintilla1.
[12:53] <aaroncampbell> In my printers section, I have a "Print to file (PDF)" printer listed, but it doesn't seem to show when I try to print something (like from firefox)
[12:54] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you would need to tell firefox to use kprinter for printing.
[12:54] <pingveno> I just took a closer look at qscintilla2. It's in heavy development
[12:54] <pingveno> So it's *definitely* not in the Fiesty repository :-P
[12:54] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: how so?  And as opposed to what?
[12:55] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: I did the following: hit print, then properties. In the dialog box find the line "Print Command" and put kprinter in there (you may want to back up the original line somewhere, just in case)
[12:56] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: The only options I have when I click properties from the print dialog are: Paper Size, Color, and margins (top, bottom, left, and right)
[12:57] <Powerking89670> Can anyone tell me how to kill a program that is running but its window has closed?
[12:57] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you don't have a line "Print Command" under "Paper Size"?
[12:59] <Dragnslcr> Powerking89670- if you know how to use a shell, you can use kill. Otherwise, Menu -> System -> KSysGuard lets you kill processes
[12:59] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: nope
[12:59] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: I make a screenshot, sec
[12:59] <Powerking89670> Thank you :D
[01:00] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:01] <baskitcaise> Powerking89670: Ctrl+Esc brings up ksysguard quicker
[01:01] <dew_> hey all, anybody know how to get a wireless bcm4318 card working in kubuntu with ndiswrapper?
[01:02] <dew_> I've tried everything and it won't work
[01:02] <dew_> can see networks, but that's it...
[01:02] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: http://imagebin.org/8416
[01:02] <baskitcaise> dew: are you sure it is using ndiswrapper driver or the kernel OS bcm43xx
[01:03] <stdin> dew_: haven't got that card, but try bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:03] <dew_> i've tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[01:03] <dew_> yeah, I'm sure I'm using ndiswrapper
[01:03] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: I guess you have to be on the Postscript/Default printer when you choose it
[01:04] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: aaah! Yes, that may be. I have only that one listed, so it didn't occur to me to mention it.
[01:04] <scast> How much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?
[01:04] <dew_> ndiswrapper -l gives me "bcmwl5 : driver installed"
[01:04] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: I did that, got the option, added the command, and basically, if you choose the postcript printer and choose print, you get another print dialog...a bit convoluted, but it works
[01:04] <dew_> stdin, it worked with bcm43xx-fwcutter, but I found it too flaky
[01:04] <Powerking89670> Thank you again :D
[01:05] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: thanks
[01:05] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: yes, that's how it's supposed to work, you get an additional kprinter dialog.
[01:05] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you're welcome :)
[01:06] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: there's also the option to print to file (*.ps), then run ps2pdf on that file.
[01:06] <baskitcaise> dew_: do you see thre bcm43xx in ls,od?
[01:07] <baskitcaise> whoops sorry , do you see the bcm43xx in lsmod
[01:07] <baskitcaise> if so then you need to blacklist it
[01:07] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: Thanks...this is working great.  Seems kind of weird...I can choose postscript, rather than my main printer (a Konica Minolta magicolor), and then I can still use kprinter to print to it.  ;)
[01:07] <dew_> baskitcaise, yeah, I've already blacklisted it
[01:07] <baskitcaise> Ok
[01:07] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: yeah, it's weird ;)
[01:08] <baskitcaise> When you do the ndiswrapper -l does it actually say "hardware present"?
[01:08] <SubOne> I think I have something going on in the background, it is causing al my games to drop framerate about every 5 seconds. How do I track it down?
[01:08] <dew_> it says "device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"
[01:09] <SubOne> You don't need to use ndis for bcm43xx
[01:09] <dew_> after "bcmwl5 : driver installed" of course
[01:09] <SubOne> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[01:09] <SubOne> ^^^^ driver for bcm43xx
[01:11] <baskitcaise> SubOne: some chips don`t work with the opensource module, mine does not I get the same problem
[01:12] <dew_> subone, bcmxx-fwcutter works, but it's way too flaky
[01:12] <baskitcaise> I can see networks but not connect no matter what I try
[01:12] <SubOne> hmm i didnt know that, worked for me no problem
[01:12] <dew_> I had this card working fine in gnome under edgy
[01:12] <dew_> with ndiswrapper
[01:13] <SubOne> baskitcaise: did you use the fwcutter with it?
[01:13] <baskitcaise> Funny my card works fine in both with nothing special done exept using the xp driver
[01:13] <baskitcaise> Dew: no I used the driver from the CD ( winodws)
[01:14] <dew_> baskitcaise, I have dual boot
[01:14] <dew_> where can I find the driver and where should I copy it too?
[01:15] <SubOne> dew_: should be on your driver  install cds from the factory
[01:15] <baskitcaise> Have a search for it in trhe system or ststem32 dirs, I cannot remember off the top of my head and XP is on another disk
[01:15] <SubOne> dew_: http://freewebs.com/ronserver/bcm43xx.tar.gz
[01:16] <dew_> what's the file called?  bcmwl5*.* ?
[01:16] <SubOne> click the link dew
[01:17] <dew_> subone, done
[01:17] <dew_> now what do I do with them?
[01:18] <baskitcaise> dew_: have a look here: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php
[01:18] <scast> How much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?
[01:19] <stdin> scast: minimum is 2GB, but 30GB is reccommended
[01:19] <scast> I need that much for a /? (I am going to keep my /home partition separated)
[01:19] <stdin> scast: especially if /home is on the same partition
[01:20] <stdin> scast: then 10GB will be plenty
[01:21] <scast> What kind of filesystem do you think works better with Kubuntu for a / partition? I was thinking on making /home ext3 and / XFS
[01:23] <SubOne> How do i stop apt-index-watch. It seems to be what is lagging my game.
[01:23] <K-Ryan> What game?
[01:24] <K-Ryan> Just curious
[01:24] <lettuce> hello
[01:24] <K-Ryan> Hi there lettuce
[01:24] <SubOne> diablo for one
[01:24] <stdin> scast: if you use xfs, make sure to install xfsprogs
[01:24] <SubOne> and web games also
[01:24] <lettuce> This place has been my freakin e-home for the past couple weeks lol
[01:24] <scast> stdin: Do I need to do that before, in or after installation?
[01:25] <K-Ryan> SubOne, alright so it isn't a driver issue.
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Give me two seconds I'll look into your problem.
[01:25] <lettuce> I need a link to the page with instructions for installing video card drivers for ubuntu
[01:25] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <K-Ryan> That link
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Should do it lettuce ;)
[01:25] <lettuce> thank you
[01:25] <K-Ryan> No problem
[01:26] <SubOne> K-Ryan: but it looks like apt-index-watch comes up every time it lags, which is every 5 seconds. How can i kill that to test
[01:26] <K-Ryan> Okay, start by going to System Settings
[01:26] <stdin> scast: after is ok, it just inclides the tools needed to manage the FS (like fsck.xfs)
[01:27] <SubOne> k
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Click the Advanced tab up top
[01:27] <scast> Oh, I see.
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Then the System Services icon
[01:27] <K-Ryan> When that window pops up, click administrator mode and pop in your pass
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Then select apt-index-watcher
[01:27] <K-Ryan> and Click stop
[01:28] <K-Ryan> I think
[01:29] <SubOne> k one sec
[01:29] <srinidhi> hi all. I have a problem with vcd mount in feisty, kubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15
[01:31] <stdin> srinidhi: you don't mount a vcd
[01:31] <stdin> srinidhi: you just play iy
[01:31] <stdin> *ittr
[01:31] <stdin> **it
[01:31] <srinidhi> it doesnt even mount
[01:31] <SubOne> K-Ryan: it looks like that was it, is there any way to get that to stop doing that lol
[01:32] <srinidhi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416471&highlight=vcd
[01:32] <SubOne> K-Ryan: or is keeping it off the only solution
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I dunno.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> If that's what's causing the issue, probably have to turn it off.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Granted I'm not sure what it does, so there might be more to it.
[01:32] <flaccid> i just tried to install vmware server and it said i needed to run the uninstall script, however it doesn't exist on my system. this must be from vmware-player. what do i do?
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Feel free to ask others
[01:32] <mahdi> srinidhi: you mean the drive doesn't mount when there's a vcd in it?
[01:32] <srinidhi> yes
[01:32] <srinidhi> mahdi:
[01:33] <srinidhi> i can mount manually but none of the players are able to play
[01:33] <SubOne> K-Ryan: my guess is it checks for updated packages
[01:33] <stdin> you don't mount a VCD (like a DVD) it's played raw
[01:33] <mahdi> i've no experience with vcd's per se
[01:34] <K-Ryan> SubOne, no idea. Good luck with it though ;)
[01:34] <SubOne> K-Ryan: well thanks for helping me turn it off
[01:34] <srinidhi> stdin: i know. but what if it dosent even mount ? :(
[01:34] <K-Ryan> Anytime
[01:34] <K-Ryan> I figure for what it's worth, this community helped me.
[01:34] <K-Ryan> It's the least I can do by helping others.
[01:34] <srinidhi> automount should happen right
[01:35] <srinidhi> ok. i can put it as vcd is not detected. but the problem is same
[01:35] <stdin> srinidhi: try just pointing your media player at the device
[01:35] <srinidhi> stdin: did but kaffeine crashes
[01:35] <srinidhi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106786
[01:36] <srinidhi> here is teh bug report
[01:36] <lettuce> hello again
[01:36] <lettuce> I need the guide for installing xgl and beryl onto fiesty
[01:36] <K-Ryan> !beryl
[01:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:36] <K-Ryan> ;)
[01:37] <lettuce> doesn't ubuntu's wiki have a guide?
[01:37] <K-Ryan> Might
[01:37] <K-Ryan> You're probably best off checking the actual site though.
[01:38] <stdin> lettuce: the beryl website has a guide
[01:38] <K-Ryan> I know there was a guide on there somewhere because I found it when I installed Beryl.
[01:38] <luca> does anyone here know how to enable xgl or aiglx with nvidia-glx-new driver (up and running, downloaded from the nvidia site)?
[01:38] <mahdi> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Eye_Candy
[01:38] <stdin> lettuce: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[01:38] <mahdi> shazam
[01:38] <cables> !effects | lettuce
[01:38] <ubotu> lettuce: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:39] <srinidhi> is there no way aroud this vcd problem? :(
[01:39] <K-Ryan> !wine
[01:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:40] <cables> luca, why did you go and download it from the Ubuntu site?
[01:40] <cables> luca, i mean the nVidia site?
[01:40] <cables> luca, that's the wrong way to install it.
[01:40] <K-Ryan> cables was right, it's best to just use the packages for it.
[01:40] <K-Ryan> Here..
[01:40] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | luca
[01:40] <ubotu> luca: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <luca> cables: it did not function properly when installing from synaptics
[01:41] <luca> it does not function properly now either, but wanted to give it a try
[01:42] <flaccid> any vmware/feisty users ?
[01:42] <luca> K-Ryan: already gone through that
[01:42] <K-Ryan> What was the trouble?
[01:42] <luca> my problem is that the driver nvidia-glx
[01:43] <luca> does not function properly, in that I have xgl but NO suspension
[01:43] <luca> which is enabled with the latest driver
[01:43] <luca> as well as 3d and anything I can think of - BUT xg
[01:43] <luca> xgl
[01:43] <K-Ryan> hmm, iunno, not experienced with that kind of issue,
[01:43] <luca> I do not know why :(
[01:43] <K-Ryan> I just know that I used the packages and mine works fine
[01:44] <SubOne> Does anyone know why apt-index-watch is lagging my games every 5 seconds? I just started doing this yesterday.
[01:44] <stdin> luca: nvidia-xgl != glx (there is a difference between xgl and glx)
[01:44] <luca> eh I thought so before using the latest driver ;) now however I would like xgl back, 'cause obviously emerald/aquamarine/gtk-window-decorator do not function...
[01:44] <luca> stdin I will have a look thx
[01:44] <luca> sorry thought you had launched a tip ;)
[01:45] <luca> uhm in any case I have this error when I try to enable emerald: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[01:46] <luca> I have added the line: Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" , but it does not make any effect
[01:46] <stdin> luca: default depth for xorg needs to be 24
[01:46] <stdin> (for nvidia)
[01:46] <soulrider__> flaccid: i use vmware
[01:47] <luca> stdin: how would i solve the issue then?
[01:47] <flaccid> soulrider: on feisty?
[01:48] <stdin> luca: either reconfigure the X server, or change the "DefaultDepth" part of /etx/X11/xorg.conf to "DefaultDepth    24"
[01:48] <soulrider> flaccid: no, i use Archlinux
[01:48] <flaccid> ok
[01:48] <gail> I have a simple question that I am challenged with finding an answer for . . . . . what is the native file system for Ubuntu 7.04?  Is it ext3, ext2, reiser?
[01:48] <luca> woah it is set to 16! :S
[01:48] <luca> that's very bad, I will try it :)
[01:49] <K-Ryan> ext3 if i'm not mistaken
[01:49] <luca> stdin: sure this should work?
[01:49] <stdin> gail: yeah, ext3
[01:49] <baskitcaise> ext3 AFAICS
[01:49] <K-Ryan> as far as i can see?
[01:49] <gail> right on!  thank you very much, have a good evening
[01:49] <K-Ryan> You too
[01:49] <K-Ryan> heheh, he said "right on!"
[01:49] <luca> ok trying to reboot
[01:49] <stdin> luca: I know that the nvidia driver needs default depth of 24, but I don't have an nvidia card, so I can't be 100%
[01:50] <luca> stdin: thanks a lot! :)
[01:50] <baskitcaise> K-Ryan: yep have not looked too far :-) all I know is it did not like reiser:-)
[01:50] <stdin> np :)
[01:50] <don> hi guys my resolition is fixed !
[01:50] <don> resolution
[01:50] <luca> in case I will just restore to 16, I know how to do it from command line by now :D
[01:50] <luca> bye
[01:50] <baskitcaise> My disk was already formatted in reiser ( ex-suse) and I did not change it, no boot ha ha.
[01:50] <stdin> !resolution | don
[01:50] <ubotu> don: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <K-Ryan> stdin he said he fixed it
[01:51] <stdin> K-Ryan: fixed can meed "no longer broke" or "can't change", so just in case :P
[01:51] <don> i tried all that then i kept trading cards then it set up my nvida correctly
[01:51] <K-Ryan> Ah, good point.
[01:52] <don> thanks i will right that down
[01:54] <srinidhi> stdin: mahdi can i try anything else for this vcd problem ?
[01:54] <don> when I did that it said invalid install
[01:54] <stdin> srinidhi: does vlc or mplayer work?
[01:54] <deitarion> What was the command to upgrade to feisty? My mother's camera needs a newer version of spca5xx/gspcav1 than Edgy offers. (I know it works because my Gentoo box has the same model sitting on the right LCD)
[01:54] <srinidhi> no stdin
[01:54] <mahdi> srinidhi: can't say i know how, my experience with vcd's is very limited
[01:55] <stdin> !upgrade | deitarion
[01:55] <ubotu> deitarion: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:55] <srinidhi> oh ok mahdi
[01:55] <stdin> srinidhi: not sure then, you may have to wait  until it's fixed
[01:55] <srinidhi> hmm .. ok
[01:55] <srinidhi> anyways thanks  guys
[01:56] <mahdi> srinidhi: sorry, can you get any program to recognize it? perhaps to rip it and use the files
[01:56] <srinidhi> i am not even able to copy the video files
[01:56] <mahdi> srinidhi: does the device drive dissapear from fstab when you insert a vcd?
[01:57] <srinidhi> no mahdi
[01:57] <srinidhi> it dosent appear
[01:57] <srinidhi> but i can do mount /dev/cdrom
[01:57] <srinidhi> then it mounts it as media
[01:57] <srinidhi> but it doesnt play
[01:57] <mahdi> and i assume that won't let you use it either?
[01:58] <srinidhi> yes
[01:58] <stdin> thing about VCD is that the video is on another session (partition) on the CD
[01:58] <srinidhi> sudo cp /media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat /home/srinidhi/
[01:58] <srinidhi> cp: reading `/media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat': Input/output error
[01:58] <srinidhi> this is what happens ehen i try to copy
[01:59] <flaccid> soulrider: i seem to get OS not found. doesn't look like you can change boot options for the partition it uses? im not sure how it works
[01:59] <mahdi> i believe k3b can make an iso from disc, have you tried mounting it manually and doing that?
[01:59] <soulrider> flaccid: no idea, maybe #vmware ?
[01:59] <flaccid> yep trying atm
[02:00] <KennyG> my live kubuntu cd is only letting me boot in safe graphics mode, what is this actually doing?
[02:00] <srinidhi> mahdi: will try that
[02:01] <stdin> KennyG: loading the VESA graphics driver
[02:01] <stdin> VESA = generic (works with anything) driver
[02:01] <KennyG> ah k
[02:01] <flaccid> qemu it might have to be
[02:03] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:03] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:03] <K-Ryan> woo
[02:05] <srinidhi> unable to access the tracks though k3b either for creating a vcd or for ripping
[02:05] <don> where do you get the VESA  driver?
[02:08] <scast> Well, I am on the Live CD now :o
[02:09] <stdin> don: it's built in
[02:09] <don> ok in adept
[02:10] <don> I am very pleased now everything works
[02:10] <stdin> don: no, it's built in to the kernel. It's already installed
[02:10] <don> ok
[02:10] <K-Ryan> scast, trouble?
[02:11] <scast> stdin: what's your partitions scheme?
[02:11] <scast> K-Ryan: not really, haven't installed because I am trying to figure out what filesystem to use in my / partition and /home partition =P
[02:11] <don> i just fixed my resolution, stdin
[02:11] <K-Ryan> ext3
[02:11] <K-Ryan> hold on, let me look at mine just to be sure of the whole setup
[02:12] <K-Ryan> my / is ext3
[02:12] <mahdi> srinidhi: i think it may be in the hands of the devs, I don't know where else to check
[02:13] <don> there is an awful lot of very nice software in this package
[02:13] <K-Ryan> my boot is ext3
[02:13] <kristjan_> I would also recommend using only ext3, with xfs installer won't let you continue unless you also create 50MB ext3 /boot
[02:13] <K-Ryan> and swap is linux-swap
[02:13] <K-Ryan> So it should pretty much just be ext3
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Excluding the swap of course
[02:14] <kristjan_> make swap a little bigger than 1.5 of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk
[02:14] <scast> You have /home in your / partition too?
[02:14] <K-Ryan> Yup
[02:14] <K-Ryan> kristjan_, 1.5 what?
[02:14] <stdin> scast: I have a 29 GB / and a 40GB /home (with a 1GB swap)
[02:14] <kristjan_> scast: it won't hurt having separate home partition (but it's very personal)
[02:15] <stdin> laptop PC w/ 80GB hdd
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Should I of seperated my / and /home?
[02:15] <kristjan_> 1.5xtimes the size of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk
[02:15] <scast> I am thinking / partition with ext3 filesystem and /home with XFS but not sure.
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Oh, gotcha
[02:15] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: you don't have to
[02:15] <K-Ryan> But should I have done that?
[02:16] <K-Ryan> Just curious because I might start fresh when I get my Feisty CD
[02:16] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: I got separate /home and / and swap
[02:17] <K-Ryan> Would it make any difference if it was seperated?
[02:17] <scast> kristjan_: what filesystems do you use?
[02:17] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: I also have /testing partition
[02:17] <kristjan_> scast: ext3
[02:17] <scast> K-Ryan: in performance? I don't think so... perhaps if you switch distributions you only have to install your new distribution on the / partition.
[02:18] <K-Ryan> Alrighty
[02:19] <kristjan_> xfs is faster than ext3, but edgy installer won't let you use xfs partitions only (you have to create separate /boot with ext2 in order to use xfs on /home and /)
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Hey I've heard some rumors that games run better under Wine than they do Windows. Anyone know?
[02:20] <scast> Uhm, that's why I was thinking on creating / with ext3 and /home withs XFS but not sure.
[02:20] <stanley> hey someone showed me how to clear adept the otherday
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Because I need motivation to setup Wine =)
[02:20] <stanley> i din write it down or save it...does anyone know how to do this??
[02:20] <scast> K-Ryan: I don't think so, but might be, why not? XD
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah, I mean I've got it installed and everything.
[02:20] <lontra> kicker: error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0:  < -- what do i need to install?
[02:20] <kristjan_> scast: create then / and /home with xfs + /boot (about 100MB) with ext2
[02:20] <K-Ryan> I just lack the motivation to figure out what to do and everything.
[02:21] <stdin> stanley: clear adept?
[02:21] <stanley> yea
[02:21] <K-Ryan> I think he means thats string to terminate adept when it crashes
[02:21] <stanley> like when i open the program
[02:21] <K-Ryan> Guess not
[02:21] <stanley> it says that i would not be able to make any changes because the databse is in use by another application
[02:21] <stdin> !apt-fix
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <stdin> !aptfix
[02:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:22] <K-Ryan> yeah that
[02:22] <K-Ryan> I was right =)
[02:22] <stanley> yea thats it
[02:22] <scast> How much swap is enough?
[02:22] <scast> I already have a 1gb swap, is that too much? Too little?
[02:22] <K-Ryan> How much RAM ya' got?
[02:23] <scast> Uhm, let me check X_X
[02:23] <stanley> thanx guys
[02:23] <K-Ryan> Anytime stanley
[02:23] <cj_> scast: too much
[02:23] <K-Ryan> lol cj_
[02:23] <scast> 384mb
[02:23] <stdin> scast: depends on ram, about 1.5 - 2 x ram is reccommended
[02:23] <cj_> scast: thats a waste fo disk space
[02:23] <kristjan_> scast: it depends. how much ram do you have?
[02:23] <K-Ryan> 384, that's an odd amount
[02:23] <cj_> stdin: thats a fallacy
[02:23] <kristjan_> cj_: it's not waste if you want to suspend to disk that will fail with small swap size
[02:23] <K-Ryan> i think i read somewhere it should be twice your RAM up to 500MB or something
[02:24] <stdin> cj_: like I said, depends on how much ram tho
[02:24] <scast> So... How much? 1.5xRAM?
[02:24] <K-Ryan> but I took the safe route and doubled my 512MB for the full gig of swap
[02:24] <don> 128 +256 memory
[02:24] <livingtm> anyone here familiar with  kbluetooth?
[02:24] <scast> don: yes, I think so.
[02:24] <K-Ryan> !swap
[02:24] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:25] <livingtm> I'd like to pair the laptop with a headset for voip.. no idea how to go about that in KDE
[02:25] <don> ya i ran into same thought otherday on one
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Let's see...
[02:25] <Murchadh> !upgrade
[02:25] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:25] <scast> 2xRam then?
[02:25] <K-Ryan> "If you have n MB of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap. If you have a disk big enough, just put the 2*n Mb swap."
[02:25] <don> i just let kubuntu set my partitions it works
[02:26] <red22> i have kubuntu feisty. after installing ubuntu-desktop, "startx" brings up a gnome session... i want to bring up the session selector screen or at least have it go to kde instead.  how pls?
[02:26] <lontra> what provides liblazy?
[02:27] <scast> Meh, 784mb swap it is then.
[02:27] <K-Ryan> How did you manage to get that amount of RAM?
[02:27] <scast> Woops, 768.
[02:28] <K-Ryan> I'm really curious because that's an odd amount.
[02:28] <TheDebugger> red22: Make a .xinitrc in your home with "exec startkde" in it
[02:28] <scast> Was thinking on 768 and 384 at the same time.
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Yeah, not a big deal
[02:29] <K-Ryan> What combination of RAM do you have to give you 384?
[02:29] <red22> TheDebugger: ok thanks i will try that but one question... there is no such file right now.. how does it know to start gnome when it gets "startx" now?
[02:29] <K-Ryan> It's bothering me that I don't know.
[02:30] <scast> I think it is 128 + 256... or 64 + 64 + 256
[02:30] <scast> Not sure.
[02:30] <scast> or 3 128 sticks.
[02:30] <kristjan_> then again if you don't plan to use suspend to disk ever, then GBs of swap is waste of space in my opninion (you would be safe with 300)
[02:30] <TheDebugger> red22: It must be the default, i don't remember where is that file though :/
[02:30] <TheDebugger> red22: You don't use gdm/kdm?
[02:31] <K-Ryan> yeah, good call
[02:31] <K-Ryan> 128+256
[02:31] <K-Ryan> no it didnt take me that long to do it...
[02:31] <K-Ryan> I pulled out the speedcrunch and let it do it for me
[02:31] <K-Ryan> (calc app)
[02:31] <mahdi> red22: uninstall gdm then dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it should be fixed, then you can just select sessions at will
[02:32] <red22> TheDebugger: i use kdm when i start the machine up but then to switch sessions i get kicked out to console bc beryl has messed up my logging out.  so i need to exec some command to go graphical again.  so is this the best way to get kdm going again?
[02:32] <scast> I think I am going ext3, XFS seems faster but I have never tried it, however I never had problems with ext3 and I am not such a performance freak.
[02:32] <Skyblast> I have an HDTV I want to connect through DVI, but there are two problems. 1) It runs at a very different resolution than my monitor. 1024x768 for the monitor versus 1280x720 for the TV. and 2) It's not connected to the PC all the time, just as I need it. Is it still possible to set up a dual head with this configuration? I have an ATi Radeon 9800SE and am using the open source ati driver.
[02:33] <K-Ryan> You can change the resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x720 if I'm not mistaken
[02:33] <K-Ryan> For when it's connected to the TV
[02:33] <marcelo> some Brazilian?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> Granted I haven't worked with computer-to-TV so it's all guesswork
[02:34] <kristjan_> !portuguese
[02:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:34] <marcelo> thanks
[02:35] <Skyblast> K-Ryan: It's not differant than a typical monitor really. That's all HDTV's are. :) But right now, if I just hook the TV up, it gets no signal from the DVI
[02:35] <red22> TheDebugger: don't i need gdm to load gnome sessions?  is gdm just the session picker app? so can i just uninstall gdm, and use kdm to pick either kde or gnome as well ?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Skyblast: does something have to be setup that you might have overlooked?
[02:36] <Skyblast> Such as?
[02:37] <K-Ryan> I don't know, like I said before, guesswork
[02:37] <K-Ryan> !dvi
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <K-Ryan> hmm
[02:37] <scast> Aight, /dev/sda1 -- ntfs --- mountpoint: /media/windows; /dev/sda2 -- ext2 -- mountpoint: boot; /dev/sda3 -- swap; /dev/sda5 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /; /dev/sda6 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /home
[02:38] <scast> My /boot is 32mb, is that big enough?
[02:38] <red22> does gnome need gdm to run pls?
[02:39] <cj_> red22: no, you can you .xinitrc if you please
[02:39] <Jucato> red22: gdm isn't absolutely necessary to run GNOME. you can start a GNOME session from kdm too
[02:39] <red22> cj_: ok i have kde installed as well so i can just select it from kdm too right?
[02:40] <red22> ah ok ty guys
[02:40] <wolferine> how do you install tovid?
[02:43] <red22> ubuntu needs to update the boot loader and rest of the boot graphics.  other distros look much better during booting.
[02:43] <lontra> !medibuntu
[02:43] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[02:43] <cj_> red22: like which distros?
[02:44] <red22> cj_: for example i used to have fedora year/s? ago and it already had a nicer boot loader with the fedora logo and a nice looking screen.
[02:45] <cj_> red22: well fair enough, use fedora if you don't mind being an unpaid beta-hamster
[02:47] <red22> cj_: i don't use fedora i use *buntus.  but i manually have to change the bootloader to make it look nice and it's not a fun thing to tell a newb to do that.  so could just be updated out of the box for a next version.
[02:48] <red22> just find it weird it has been overlooked for so long.  mandrake also has a nice more graphical looking boot selection screen.  not a big deal aparently to change.
[02:48] <MindUser39294> Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[02:48] <red22> just sayin that's all
[02:49] <cj_> red22: yeah, perhaps they devs should waste time polishing a 15 second bootsplash instead of say tweaking drivr support, or polishing something you see for longer than 15 secs
[02:50] <MindUser39294> Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[02:50] <cj_> looks a lot better under feisty than dapper already
[02:51] <red22> ok fella, whoa keep your pants on.  not all of us have to like looking at pretty things.
[02:51] <charlie_> any got team speak working on kubuntu?
[02:51] <cpk1> I used to have a teamspeak server running off kubuntu a long time ago
[02:51] <cedross> what is team speak?
[02:52] <charlie_> software that allows you to talk to other players in multiplayer on line games
[02:52] <don> how old is kubuntu?
[02:52] <Jucato> a voip program usually used for online gaming communication
[02:52] <charlie_> yeah, thats team speak
[02:53] <Jucato> the other alternative to teamspeak is ventrillo afaik
[02:53] <red22> cedross: yeah, for games who's developers didn't have the bright idea to include it in-game especially.
[02:54] <cpk1> last I saw vent didnt have a linux client though
[02:57] <Jucato> don: 2 years old
[02:57] <don> oh
[02:57] <Jucato> lol why didn't we celebrate :(
[02:57] <Jucato> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/hoary-release.php
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Anyone ever play that xjewel thing?
[02:57] <don> tis is the best linux system i have found
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I love it, just like columns =)
[02:57] <K-Ryan> don what others have you tried?
[02:58] <lontra> how come there isn't an icon for kcontrol in kmenu?
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I've only tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[02:58] <tyger> my sound card doesn't work can anybody help
[02:59] <Jucato> cpk1: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[02:59] <don> xandros,solaris,mefis,knoppix many versions of some
[02:59] <Jucato> lontra: Kubuntu uses System Settings as a substitute
[02:59] <Jucato> lontra: but you can still run or add kcontrol to the menu if you want. it's installed by default
[02:59] <tyger> I'm using intel
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Are you on a laptop?
[03:00] <don> i like kubuntu 6.06 then i went for fawn
[03:00] <K-Ryan> My friend has the same problem
[03:00] <don> no
[03:00] <tyger> yes
[03:00] <lontra> Jucato: but there isn't an icon anywhere for it ... i need to add it via the menu editor?  that seems silly
[03:00] <scast> 10gb is more than enough for / right?
[03:00] <don> amd on a EliteGroupe
[03:00] <cpk1> Jucato: yup, client for linux is "in development"
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Yeah, Kubuntu didn't seem to recognize his sound card.
[03:01] <tyger> is there any work arounds
[03:01] <don> can you make icons smaller on fawn?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure, but if you find out let me know.
[03:01] <tyger> how about wireless
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Because we didn't find a way, but we were still really new to Linux when we were doing that.
[03:01] <tyger> its not accepting the passwords
[03:01] <K-Ryan> lol, he has the same problem.
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Well, the wireless just doesn't work
[03:02] <K-Ryan> On his anyway
[03:02] <K-Ryan> It probably needs tweaking, let's try this.
[03:02] <tyger> mine only works with a wireless that has no password
[03:02] <K-Ryan> !wireless
[03:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:02] <tyger> ok
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Might want to try your luck there
[03:02] <tyger> thanks
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Anytime
[03:02] <don> there are many wireless wizards in add and remove
[03:03] <tyger> oh ok
[03:03] <tyger> which is the best one
[03:04] <K-Ryan> It probably depends on what you're using.
[03:04] <K-Ryan> So trial and error.
[03:04] <tyger> gateway laptop
[03:04] <K-Ryan> No way, so is my friend's.
[03:04] <don> knetwork manager ?
[03:04] <tyger> ok
[03:04] <K-Ryan> You guys must have the same one.
[03:04] <tyger> 2.8 ghz
[03:04] <K-Ryan> tyger your name wouldn't happen to be Chris right?
[03:04] <tyger> no
[03:04] <tyger>  mark
[03:05] <DarthFrog> Howdy
[03:05] <K-Ryan> That's his dad's name, heheh.
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Hiya DarthFrog
[03:05] <tyger> wow
[03:05] <tyger> I like linux I can run windows software on it
[03:05] <tyger> just problem with drivers
[03:05] <K-Ryan> The sound drivers
[03:06] <don> anyone try to configure one of the tv programs?
[03:06] <tyger> democracy is good
[03:06] <tyger> tv program
[03:06] <DarthFrog> I have a  bizarre problem with a pretty much fresh install of Feisty.  In a nutshell, pressing almost any key causes X to resize the window.
[03:06] <K-Ryan> None of your keys are stuck down, correct/
[03:06] <K-Ryan> *?
[03:06] <tyger> is redhat anybetter
[03:07] <don> red hat aint free
[03:07] <tyger> oh
[03:07] <don> it has its problems too
[03:07] <K-Ryan> careful by what you mean
[03:07] <K-Ryan> Free in the Linux sense means open source
[03:07] <don> sorry
[03:07] <K-Ryan> It's okay, I'm sparing you the lecture
[03:08] <tyger> how do you write your own drivers
[03:08] <K-Ryan> People constantly reminded me that "free" didn't refer to money
[03:08] <don>   i checked out linux they will be like microsoft soon
[03:08] <DarthFrog> Which is why free is a terrible term for software.
[03:08] <don> red hat
[03:08] <K-Ryan> don you can't really check out linux
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Linux is just a big category
[03:08] <K-Ryan> There are so many different distributions
[03:09] <don> I ment Red Hat
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Oh, gotcha
[03:09] <don> what does she look like
[03:09] <DarthFrog> One normally doesn't think of inanimate or intangible things as having freedom.  So when we say such things are free, one thinks of cost.
[03:09] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:09] <DarthFrog> This is a free chair.
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Jucato, is it ok until someone asks for help?
[03:09] <tyger> how do you work the sound server
[03:09] <K-Ryan> We're just making chit chat
[03:09] <don> linux has always fasinated me now I got a good one
[03:10] <luca> stdin now I have a very clear picture I fear
[03:10] <lontra> K-Ryan: it's probably best in -offtopic though ... cause some folks may be afraid to ask questions
[03:10] <Jucato> K-Ryan: there's the chance that someone will be hesitant to ask for help because they see an ongoing conversation
[03:10] <don> I ask if you knew how to configure tv
[03:10] <K-Ryan> Good point
[03:10] <Jucato> !tv
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <don> they will ask
[03:10] <Jucato> bah wrong factoid :)
[03:10] <DarthFrog> OK, I'm asking for help with my X problem. :-)
[03:11] <don> good luck
[03:11] <luca> if you had discovered something probably VERY important about the nvidia driver and glx, where would you post it?
[03:11] <yotux> is bogo a goo spam filter?
[03:11] <Jucato> luca: um... what kind of important thing? a guide?  a problem/bug?
[03:11] <yotux> luca:  I would start with the forum and maybe do a wiki
[03:12] <luca> jucato, yotux I have discovered that nvidia drivers prevent the machine from going into suspend to ram because of xgl
[03:12] <lontra> K-Ryan: nothing wrong with talking about offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:12] <luca> if you disable it (and thus prevent yourself from using beryl or compiz) suspend to ram works perfectly
[03:12] <K-Ryan> I know, but I like to help people. And I'm too lazy to keep switching from channel to channel.
[03:13] <Jucato> luca: if you disable xgl? hm... first maybe you could check with #ubuntu-effects and the bug tracker if this is a known problem
[03:13] <luca> jucato ok thanks
[03:13] <Jucato> I think this kind of info is better in the bug tracker
[03:13] <Jucato> !bugs
[03:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:14] <luca> Jucato thanks I need to tell someone, my last two hours of experimenting should not go to waste :-D
[03:16] <don> at least my sites stpped telling me to udate my browser
[03:19] <luca> uhm ok in any case now at least I know how to enable suspend OR glx on this laptop ;) not too hard once you have got the trick :D
[03:27] <madmike> my mother board is dying ;-(
[03:28] <madmike> the capacitors are bulging and everythings goin hell
[03:28] <vontux> hello, I believe that I have had a log file fill my hd ;however, I am unable to track down which file(s) are the culprits, any suggestions?
[03:29] <don> was you overclocking mike?
[03:30] <madmike> nope
[03:31] <K-Ryan> How old is it?
[03:31] <madmike> it's a known problem with the motherboard
[03:31] <K-Ryan> anyway to get a refund/replacement?
[03:32] <madmike> nope
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Hmm, that's too bad.
[03:32] <madmike> it's ok I'm just gunna strip it and put the good stuff on another board
[03:32] <don> I now how you feel I lost my ARBIT
[03:32] <K-Ryan> ah
[03:33] <vontux> hello, does anyone have experience with log files filling their hd, from a crash of "brutalchess" is what I think is the cause....
[03:34] <don> What board do you have mike?
[03:34] <madmike> it's in a dell
[03:35] <jtt> vontux,  use this command from root  to find files largefind . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;r than  1meg accessed in the last 24 hours
[03:35] <don> I have one with optiplex it is a good one
[03:35] <jtt> vontux, find . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;
[03:35] <Jucato> (or vontux could also use K Menu -> Find Files/Folders)
[03:35] <jtt> vontux, from  /   finds files larger than 1meg accessed in last 24 hours
[03:36] <jtt> Jucato, or that
[03:36] <vontux> thx
[03:36] <madmike> it's got a 865g chip set
[03:37] <madmike> it's a small form optiplex and it's got a problem with heat
[03:37] <madmike> and i got the computer for free and it's already got the problem when i got i guess
[03:38] <kkerwin> Hi, I seem to be having a strange pixelation problem with X. The picture describes the problem better, as well as my xorg.conf and my Xorg.0.log: http://xrl.us/xfunkiness http://xrl.us/xfunkyXorgConf http://xrl.us/xorgLog
[03:38] <asimov> ANyone here good with nvidia drivers?
[03:40] <wsjunior> how do i start compiz inside kubuntu?
[03:41] <wsjunior> i did compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher menu water &
[03:41] <wsjunior> is it right?
[03:41] <wsjunior> i can see some effects but im not able to rotate de cube..
[03:41] <gholm> I can't get my SATA drive to recognize in Feisty yet, Edgy works fine.  Edgy eft has a libata v1.2 and feisty fawn has libata v2.2.   Is there anyway to downgrade libata to 1.2 in Fesity?
[03:42] <tin> put the edgy repositories in the sources list
[03:42] <Jucato> !compiz | wsjunior
[03:42] <ubotu> wsjunior: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <tin> then you can get the version from edgy, don't know how smoothly it'll work though
[03:42] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a dlink dwl-g122 rev b1 and feisty detects it out of the box.  it even detects the APs.  any idea why i need to add rausb1 to /etc/network/interfaces and do a ifconfig up/down before i can use it?
[03:43] <fulat2k> forgot to mention that i'm using knetworkmanager as well
[03:45] <vontux> is is possible for the partition table to be written to incorrectly so that the os believes that the HD is full when it actually is not?
[03:48] <K-Ryan> !xjewel
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xjewel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <K-Ryan> hmm, ubotu usually knows the packages
[03:54] <trpr> hrm.  i get "Failed to connect to SDP Server" when enabling my bluetooth adapter. :\
[03:56] <scast> Well finally did it
[03:56] <scast> xD
[03:56] <scast> !nvidia
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <hartthomson> anyone have experience with scim/skim?
[03:58] <K-Ryan> Gratz scast
[03:58] <scast> I wonder how I am supossed to install it on Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu.
[03:58] <hartthomson> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  << when i try to start skim
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Alright guys, g'night.
[04:03] <lontra> scast: same way
[04:04] <scast> It's pointing me to System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager
[04:04] <scast> I can't see that on my KDE Menu so I guess it's for Gnome's menu.
[04:04] <lontra> scast: ah ...
[04:05] <lontra> restricted-manager - manage non-free hardware drivers
[04:05] <lontra> scast: you can install restricted-manager via apt
[04:05] <lontra> scast: then run it by typing restricted-manager in konsole
[04:16] <BloodyTux> hey
[04:18] <don> hey
[04:18] <BloodyTux> i'm doing a project on linux, does anyone have any input on what's good and what's bad
[04:19] <BloodyTux> ?
[04:20] <don> most of the browsers need to update
[04:22] <don> What good is fawn has updated browsers
[04:22] <BloodyTux> yea
[04:22] <dwidmann> BloodyTux: good: stability, flexibility, freedom, power  -- bad: lack of commercial/vendor support
[04:22] <don> ya i can play radio now and they dont ask me to update
[04:23] <BloodyTux> :) thanks
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> BloodyTux: a lot of hardware is still unsupported and a lot of the drivers that do exist are reverse engineered
[04:23] <don> Fawn is linux for real
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> BloodyTux: nix needs more support from hw manufacturers
[04:24] <BloodyTux> definatly
[04:24] <chocobo> can someone tell me y my ipod isn't showing up on the desktop?
[04:25] <don> Ya but I think it is really going to make it
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> case in point :)
[04:25] <mahdi> chocobo: try refreshing your desktop
[04:25] <chocobo> how?
[04:25] <mahdi> right click > refresh desktop
[04:25] <don> I have tried may linux os this one does what I want
[04:25] <chocobo> i did but it doesn't work
[04:25] <chocobo> still
[04:25] <mahdi> you sure its mounted?
[04:25] <chocobo> no
[04:26] <chocobo> how would i figure it out?
[04:26] <chocobo> go into media?
[04:26] <mahdi> try that
[04:26] <chocobo> the only unusual thing i see is sdf1
[04:26] <chocobo> isn't that a normal media folder though and not my ipod
[04:26] <chocobo> should it be a pic of an ipod/
[04:26] <BloodyTux> thanks for the comments, i have to go, ciao
[04:26] <don> they need to aproach Graphics and serious gaming and it will be all you could ask for
[04:26] <mahdi> it should be
[04:27] <chocobo> sdf1 should be my ipod?
[04:27] <scast> Nvidia: Checked...
[04:27] <mahdi> no, your ipod should appear as an icon of an ipod
[04:27] <chocobo> kk
[04:27] <chocobo> hm
[04:27] <mahdi> try typing the following into the Konsole "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:27] <mahdi> without the quotation marks
[04:28] <chocobo> kk this is what it gives me
[04:28] <chocobo> it says
[04:28] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sde: 300.0 GB, 300069052416 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36481 cylinders
[04:29] <chocobo> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde1   *           1       36012   289266358+  83  Linux
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde2           36013       36481     3767242+   5  Extended
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde5           36013       36481     3767211   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:29] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sdf: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 28615 cylinders
[04:29] <chocobo> Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sdf doesn't contain a valid partition table
[04:29] <chocobo> sdf looks liek it shoudl be my ipod
[04:29] <chocobo> right?
[04:29] <chocobo> its 30g
[04:29] <lontra> !tell chocobo about paste
[04:29] <mahdi> it looks like it is, but mine registers as /dev/sda#
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> !paste | chocobo
[04:30] <ubotu> chocobo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <chocobo> eh as long as it worksr gith?
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know offhand if Wine can access hardware like a bluetooth adapter?
[04:30] <ejupin> how do i mount my mp3 player in amarok.. a window opens up for the mounting command..?
[04:31] <lettuce> is there an #ubuntu channel?
[04:31] <jtt> lettuce, yes
[04:31] <chocobo> hey i tried movin the iso over into the folder and it said access denied :()
[04:32] <chocobo> what do i do
[04:32] <lontra> is there any way that i can tell konqueror to kill just one tab?
[04:32] <mahdi> chocobo: what iso?
[04:32] <mahdi> lontra: there is a close tab button all the way to the right of the tabs
[04:32] <jtt> lontra, icon at far right just about current window
[04:32] <lettuce> what are the beryl channels again?
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: no the songbird website froze it up and it's all messed up
[04:33] <chocobo> an iso  for mac os 10.4.8.1 for generic hardware
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: i meant with a kill command or something
[04:33] <chocobo> i try putting it in the folder but it says access denied
[04:33] <mahdi> lontra: can't kill one tab with kill, just the entire instance of konqueror
[04:33] <jtt> lontra, cant answer that one
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: oh well
[04:34] <mahdi> chocobo: type 'mount' into the konsole and look for the sdf
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> lettuce: #ubuntu-effects
[04:35] <mahdi> chocobo: you may have to install gtkpod and reinstall the directory tree to get it to be able to read, but that would remove whatever data you have on it
[04:36] <chocobo> man i just wanna be able to simply put it on another computer
[04:36] <chocobo> the iso
[04:37] <chocobo> think if i  upload it to my site
[04:37] <chocobo> it'll download fast?
[04:37] <chocobo> 5 gigs
[04:37] <mahdi> iPods are not formatted to be able to carry files in that manner
[04:37] <mahdi> i suggest uploading it then redownloading it
[04:37] <chocobo> how long would that take
[04:38] <chocobo> or i could connect to a server
[04:38] <chocobo> that i make on the mac
[04:38] <chocobo> right?
[04:38] <mahdi> it is entirely possible
[04:38] <mahdi> is this an entirely separate computer or just a different partition?
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> so how do i 'multiplay' a mud game? i think ive done it before with a proxy server
 i got my kde with exec startkde
[04:51] <slicknick> with an an established vpn connection to a samba share, i am unable to open .doc or .xls files with OpenOffice without first saving locally.  any suggestions where to start looking at this issue ?
[04:53] <nirmal> actually i was trying to install ubuntu desktop upon kubuntu and it took gdm and i okayed it
[04:54] <scast> Thanks god I got rid of the purple! =D
[04:54] <nirmal> how can i choose the session at welcome screen itself
[04:55] <lettuce> i have beryl installed and it works, but I don't have xgl installed. Is that bad?
[04:55] <Jucato> nirmal: from GDM (login screen), there should be a Session menu (I think it's at the bottom), where you can choose which Session type to login to. choose KDE
[04:56] <Yorokobi> lettuce, feisty's Xorg comes with AIGLX built in ... so you're fine
[04:56] <lettuce> seriously!?
[04:56] <Yorokobi> it wouldn't work otherwise
[04:56] <lettuce> that freakin' sweet
[04:56] <lettuce> *that's
[04:56] <intelikey> i just got a devide by zero error on /etc/init.d/rc  line 39 (i think)   >>>    progress=$(($step * $progress_size / $num_steps + $first_step))
[04:56] <intelikey> i have not edited that file.
[04:56] <lettuce> i love fiesty
[04:57] <nirmal> the username text field is coming 2/3 off the screen i could not see it
[04:58] <nirmal> i am to live with kde also as i am doing some local language work
[04:58] <GWillakers> has anyone gotten truecrypt to work on 7.04?
[04:58] <nirmal> lemme  F10 pressed at welcome screen
[05:01] <nflava> is there a default password for root that you need to change after you install?
[05:01] <intelikey> nflava no
[05:01] <nflava> hm
[05:01] <intelikey> !root nflava
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root nflava - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <intelikey> !root | nflava
[05:01] <ubotu> nflava: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <Jucato> nflava: short answer, no. read that page for more info ^^^^
[05:01] <nflava> k
[05:02] <nirmal> the user pass which you supply when you install is the admin pass
[05:02] <nflava> yeah thats what i thought
[05:02] <nflava> and i typed su in terminal
[05:02] <nflava> and it says auth. failed
[05:02] <intelikey> !su
[05:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:02] <nflava> so i was wondering
[05:02] <nflava> im about to read the page
[05:02] <Jucato> the root user is disabled in Ubuntu.
[05:03] <GWillakers> sudo su
[05:03] <intelikey> the root password is "locked"
[05:03] <nirmal> sudo su
[05:03] <nirmal> and supply your pass
[05:03] <intelikey> the account is not "disabled"
[05:03] <Yorokobi> nflava, you can give root a password by using 'sudo -s' (among other options) to become root then use passwd to change the password.
[05:03] <k31ss> hello
[05:03] <k31ss> im using ubuntu live cd
[05:03] <intelikey> nirmal sudo -i
[05:03] <k31ss> how can i brownzer my hd files
[05:03] <nirmal> oki
[05:04] <k31ss> kubuntu*
[05:04] <dsmith_> question: When I click on an app in kubuntu some will show a bouncy image of the icon, whiel others show just a gear. How can I create the icon that matches the one on the desktop?
[05:04] <lettuce> can someone give me a link to the beryl channel(s)
[05:04] <dsmith_> #beryl
[05:04] <nflava> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:04] <lettuce> danke
[05:04] <intelikey> nirmal if you must dubble with su  try sudo su -     << the dash makes it full login env for root.
[05:04] <nflava> what does that mean after i do a ./configure
[05:05] <Jucato> nflava: you have to instsall "build-essential"
[05:05] <nflava> trying to install xchat
[05:05] <Jucato> !compile | nflava
[05:05] <ubotu> nflava: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:05] <nflava> ok thanks again :)
[05:05] <Jucato> lettuce: #ubuntu-effects too
[05:06] <Jucato> dsmith_: the gear icon is the generic icon for programs that don't have any icon. usually scripts or some command line program
[05:06] <flaccid> trying to get qemu networking going on feisty. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179472 anyone have any suggestions or a working qemu w/ networking. im trying to use tap
[05:06] <dsmith_> jucato: how do I change it? I figured it was default
[05:06] <k31ss> how can i brownzer my hd files ???
[05:07] <jtt> k31ss, konqueror
[05:07] <Yorokobi> k31ss, use Konqueror and click on the Media link
[05:07] <Jucato> dsmith_: depends. where are you launching it? if it's from the K Menu, you can right-click on the item and select Edit item.
[05:07] <dsmith_> some are on the panel
[05:08] <intelikey> right click
[05:09] <dsmith_> ok I see kde menu editor
[05:09] <dsmith_> I click on the icon and it takes me to a master icon database
[05:10] <nflava> !build-essential
[05:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:10] <nflava> hmmm do i have fiesty
[05:10] <Jucato> dsmith_: you can check by typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[05:11] <k31ss> Yorokobi: i clicked and appers to be nothing on that folder =
[05:11] <dsmith_> no modules available
[05:11] <Yorokobi> k31ss, it probably didn't auto-mount your existing partitions then ...
[05:12] <k31ss> Yorokobi:  how can i mount then ?
[05:15] <intelikey> "back in the day"   when i started using linux we had to learn how to mount every thing manually.     mount /dev/<device_node> /<dir/to/mount/on>
[05:16] <intelikey> it still works wonderfully
[05:16] <dsmith_> !kdesu
[05:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:16] <vontux> hello, how do I check for bad disk sectors?
[05:16] <k31ss> intelikey: where i type that command ??
[05:16] <vitor> hi
[05:16] <jtt> intelikey, surely it wasn;t that far back :_)
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> vontux: keep using the drive and pray daily?
[05:16] <Yorokobi> "you can muck up your permissions/config files" <-- How, exactly?
[05:16] <intelikey> k31ss terminal of your choice
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i did anyway.  didn't work
[05:17] <vitor> does anyone know how I set up the built in micorphone on Dell Latitute D840
[05:17] <vitor> ?
[05:17] <scast> !mp3
[05:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:17] <vontux> Daisuke_Ido: gee thanks :P
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> vontux: fsck
[05:17] <nflava> !glib
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <vontux> Daisuke_Ido: ah
[05:17] <vontux> thx
[05:17] <intelikey> jtt yeah it's been a few years...
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> FileSystem ChecK (pretty sure that's the acronym)
[05:18] <vontux> btw, anyone in here who uses "brutalchess" be careful it may crash and and fill your hd with log files!
[05:18] <lettuce> beryl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?
[05:18] <Yorokobi> vontux, that's why you create a separate partition for /var :)
[05:18] <vontux> Yorokobi: hehe, live and learn I guess :)
[05:18] <k31ss> intelikey: i cant make that work
[05:18] <intelikey> vontux and pay attention to the disk activity......
[05:18] <Yorokobi> yup
[05:18] <vincent> hello
[05:19] <k31ss> intelikey: what i need to type ?
[05:19] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe i should take a look in /var, see what i can get rid of
[05:19] <intelikey> k31ss what are you trying to mount and where ?
[05:19] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido   ! lib
[05:20] <k31ss> intelikey: im trying to mount my 2 IDE HardDrives and my 1 Sata HardDrive
[05:21] <jtt> !mount >jtt
[05:21] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, if logrotate is (installed and) working correctly, /var/log should stay manageable ...
[05:21] <intelikey> k31ss ok   first find the device nodes you want to mount.    sudo fdisk -l
[05:21] <lettuce> beryl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?
[05:21] <intelikey> k31ss then find the dirrectories (or make them) that you wish each mounted on.
[05:22] <Yorokobi> lettuce, you can change the animation to something less intense
[05:23] <Yorokobi> What's the command to find out if a video card supports direct rendering?
[05:23] <intelikey> k31ss NOTE, mounting a filesystem on a dir. (the only place you can mount them) will hide anything already in that dir.  (except unionfs...)    so don't mount anything on /bin      and preferably not on any dir that contains files.
[05:24] <k31ss> i found hda1 ...
[05:24] <k31ss> how can i mount then ?:?
[05:25] <intelikey> sudo mkdir /media/blah ;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/blah
[05:25] <scott_> hda1 sound like your main drive not the second drive just a guess
[05:25] <jarn2> Forwarding a port on my router doesn't make me vulnerable, correct?
[05:26] <intelikey> also entering the mount command with no args will list mounted fs's.... some of them anyway
[05:26] <Yorokobi> jarn2, depends on the port and what's answering the port
[05:26] <k31ss> i mounted but now
[05:26] <scast> Wooo, I have sound!
[05:26] <k31ss> when i try acess /media
[05:26] <k31ss> from kokeror
[05:26] <k31ss> i get not acess error
[05:26] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Well, it was a port so I could access some files when I'm not at home. There is nothing sensitive in the files, it's just my music.
[05:26] <intelikey> !ntfs | k31ss
[05:26] <ubotu> k31ss: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:27] <jarn2> Yorokobi: What do you mean by what's answering the port?
[05:27] <Yorokobi> jarn2, the program that is listening on the port you're forwarding
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: definitely not lib
[05:27] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido :)
[05:27] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Umm... it's kpf I think.
[05:28] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido that's what i said
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and logrotate seems to be okay
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: i know, i was agreeing
[05:28] <jarn2> Yorokobi: All I did was right-click and enable sharing in Konqueror. Then I need to forward the port but I haven't done it yet.
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: take a look at gnump3d
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and a dynamic dns service
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> two thumbs up for mobile music goodness
[05:29] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido every now and again i blank /var/log   "if i'm sure i don't need the back logs..."
[05:29] <k31ss> apper to mounted all
[05:29] <k31ss> but i still cant brownse ;/media dir
[05:30] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Well, do you know if just forwarding one for use by kpf is secure?
[05:30] <intelikey> k31ss umask
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: true, but if he's just looking to do music, set up gnump3d with a required username/password, operates via a web interface
[05:30] <Yorokobi> jarn2, nope. I haven't looked at kpf (or whatever it Konqueror uses)
[05:30] <jtt> !pm >jtt
[05:30] <k31ss> intelikey: what's that ?
[05:31] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: That makes it needs a password?
[05:31] <intelikey> k31ss assuming it's not a real fs   i.e. M$ ntfs    you'll need to supply a umask to the mount command or it will default to root only access.     you can remount     sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mount/point
[05:32] <intelikey> inturpret /mount/point  ^
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> you can set it to require one, yes
[05:32] <intelikey> k31ss i hope you do know that writing to ntfs "may" cause problems.
[05:33] <intelikey> "can" be dangerous
[05:33] <intelikey> !ntfs | k31ss again.
[05:33] <ubotu> k31ss again.: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:33] <k31ss> intelikey: i only want to play my mp3 =/
[05:33] <intelikey> read only access is fine.
[05:33] <k31ss> ubotu: i used that, it said that all partitions are now mounted
[05:34] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:34] <intelikey> !fuse | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:34] <intelikey> !bot | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:34] <flaccid> any qemu users here with networking going?
[05:35] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: How do I use it once I've installed it?
[05:35] <k31ss> =/ i used the script https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:35] <k31ss> but i cant't acess the partitions
[05:36] <scast> !sources.lst
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <scast> !repositories
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:36] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: It tells me I need to change the logfile line but it doesn't tell me what file I need to edit it in...
[05:36] <scast> !sources.list
[05:36] <Yorokobi> intelikey, a quote from Larry Wall comes to mind, "Let me repeat for the logically impaired."
[05:37] <scast> I think I just got ignored by a bot! =O
[05:37] <intelikey> Yorokobi yeah something along that line.
[05:38] <intelikey> i think i'm going to tender my resignation, cat random to all hd's, and walk.
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> gnump3d.conf
[05:38] <Yorokobi> hehe, intelikey
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf to be exact
[05:41] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, I found it. Thanks. :)
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> intellikey: cat complaint.txt > /dev/null
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:41] <intelikey> lol
[05:41] <intelikey> that's what the higher up seem to do.  yep yep yep...
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: .password in your mp3 directory
[05:42] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: I got it I think, thanks. :)
[05:42] <intelikey> i could get this guy fired so easily.....   and probably should...    but wont.
[05:43] <Yorokobi> intelikey, sounds like you have a BOFH
[05:43] <scast> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ is this still up to date?
[05:44] <intelikey> and an attitude.
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> well i dunno barbie, let's take a look there, shall we?
[05:44] <intelikey> !sourceomatic
[05:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> it has feisty, i'd say it's pretty up to date, huh?
[05:44] <dsmith_> ll
[05:44] <dsmith_> lol
[05:44] <scast> You never know ^_^
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i apologize, i need to lay off watching scrubs :\
[05:45] <dsmith_> gee.. I was in a sore mood today as well. Someone in the office wanted to go back to using Outlook after we upgraded to TB.
[05:46] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i was writing a script but it got out dated before i finished writing it....
[05:46] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: Greatest show ever.
[05:46] <dsmith_> when asked why, they said "I dont like the colors" & "It's not M$ product, so its some 3rd party crap"
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: so they're idiots.  rename the icon and tell them it's a new version
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that's how i got mom to switch to firefox
[05:47] <dsmith_> LOL, hey I thought of that!
[05:47] <Yorokobi> funny, very funny
[05:47] <dsmith_> I evern got FF to look like IE
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you want to?
[05:48] <dsmith_> and TB to appear like OL
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> well, to ease the switch
[05:48] <dsmith_> idiots, not liking mozilla
[05:48] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: After changing the appropriate settings on the conf, when I try to run it I get a spam of Size mismatch on TLEN at /usr/share/perl5/gnump3d/readtags.pm line 40
[05:48] <intelikey> dsmith_ well colour me an idiot then...
[05:49] <dsmith_> dont like mozilla?
[05:49] <intelikey> no
[05:49] <dsmith_> what do you use?
[05:49] <intelikey> links
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not not liking mozilla, it's drinking microsoft's poison kool-aid - THEN asking for more!
[05:49] <dsmith_> hah
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: not something i've ever seen
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> dillo's pretty nifty too :)
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> stop and restart it?
[05:50] <dsmith_> Q: has anyone upgraded from 6.10 successfully?
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> say...  /etc/init.d/gnump3d stop && /etc/init.d/gnump3d start
[05:50] <intelikey> i can stand dillo
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: yes, and on a laptop, too
[05:50] <dsmith_> hmmmmm
[05:51] <GWillakers> !lamp
[05:51] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:51] <dsmith_> I will wait a few months then do so....
[05:51] <dsmith_> thx
[05:51] <intelikey> dsmith_ by successfully do yo mean with no issues at all ?
[05:51] <Yorokobi> s/MySQL/PostgreSQL/g
[05:51] <dsmith_> intelikey: heh, I mean by not farking my 'puter
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i was actually surprised that the lappy had no issues
[05:52] <intelikey> then everyone that has upgraded, has upgraded successfully....
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> heck, it even hibernates properly
[05:52] <dsmith_> coool, I'll still wait awhile though
[05:53] <N0Lif3|lappy> I'm trying to get my new linksys WPC54G working here on my laptop. I'm follwing a guide that says to do it with ndiswrapper. When I try to install the drivers it'll always say "couldn't open lsbcmds.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 174.
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i've heard some horror stories
[05:53] <Yorokobi> I'm a geek :)
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> linksys?
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> isn't that an rt2500 chipset card?
[05:53] <N0Lif3|lappy> I don't know, but apparently it works
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> and the driver has to be IN the directory you're installing from
[05:54] <N0Lif3|lappy> well it is suppose to, at least
[05:54] <intelikey> imageek ?   havent seen him in a while...
[05:54] <Yorokobi> OpenBSD 4.1 to be exact, not that anyone really cares ... I just like seeing my name in the channel
[05:55] <intelikey> Yorokobi that was a good one.....    hehhe heh
[05:55] <dsmith_> i've ben trying to get hamachi running, i'm lamost there
[05:55] <dsmith_> *almost
[05:55] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: hehehe
[05:55] <Yorokobi> Yeah, I'm tired and should go to bed now.
[05:56] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: I've never played with OpenBSD .... what's new with it?
[05:56] <intelikey> i'm ready to order the boxed set of debian etch
[05:57] <dwidmann> intelikey: I already did ... got a nice price on it at discountlinuxdvd (contrary to most online folk they're actually not bad, like $2/dvd or something)
[05:57] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, enhancements to PF are what I'm most excited about.
[05:57] <tin> dwidmann: http://openbsd.org/41.html#new
[05:57] <dwidmann> In fact, I'm running debian right now :O
[05:57] <Yorokobi> Thanks, tin
[05:58] <tin> i'm running debian too, the Kubuntu Feisty flavor!
[05:59] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: What happens if I shut the computer off?
[05:59] <intelikey> i've got mandrake 10 and buntu dapper "sort of" install here
[06:00] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: When the router is set to forward the port and the computer is turned off so nothing is at the port, what happens?
[06:00] <Yorokobi> jarn_, nothing
[06:00] <Yorokobi> the connection will time out
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: nothing happens
[06:00] <dwidmann> tin: I meant I'm running Etch ... was running Feisty before. Oh well, both seem to have their ups and downs
[06:00] <_3fg> how come Kopete doesn't do anything at all?
[06:00] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Ah, okay. So when my comp is on they just go straight to the porgram and I'm not vulnerable and when it's off they just time out?
[06:01] <Yorokobi> jarn_, I would not go so far as no say you're 'not vulnerable' but with the computer off, it won't answer the port.*
[06:01] <intelikey> i say 'sort of' cause it was a hoary installation i upgraded streight to dapper skipping breezy, and had removed all perl* and python*   so by some standards it's not.
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> _3fg: could you possibly be a little more specific?  that's like going to a mechanic and saying "it doesn't work"
[06:01] <_3fg> haha
[06:02] <Yorokobi> (* unless port knocking w/WOL is enabled)
[06:02] <tin> dwidmann: name some downs to Feisty...
[06:02] <tin> since i can get every package you can...
[06:02] <tin> and you can get every package i can...
[06:02] <_3fg> I don't seem to be able to connect
[06:02] <dwidmann> tin: ran noticably slower than etch runs
[06:02] <tin> the same kernel?
[06:02] <tin> built the same?
[06:02] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Well, would I be more vulnerable than I was when the port was not forwarded?
[06:03] <_3fg> I put in my account info and it just sits there and doesn't show any of my buddies
[06:03] <Yorokobi> jarn_, correct.
[06:03] <_3fg> it shows the groups though
[06:03] <dwidmann> tin: built for the most part alike, different kernel
[06:03] <tin> things like that aren't the distro's fault
[06:03] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Wait, I would be? How much more vulnerable?
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> are they online?
[06:03] <_3fg> well yes
[06:03] <dwidmann> tin: probably not, but speed is speed
[06:03] <tin> i could put the etch repos in my sources and get the same kernel
[06:03] <_3fg> it doesn't even add contacts
[06:04] <_3fg> the groups say they have 0 buddies in them
[06:04] <tin> and i'd still be "running Feisty"
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i ask because it's set by default to only show online contacts
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that's weird
[06:04] <vontux> what does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?
[06:04] <Yorokobi> jarn_, it depends on the program answering the port. If it was written right, not vulnerable.
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> but i don't know much about kopete
[06:04] <dwidmann> tin: I'm always somewhere inbetween kubuntu and debian. Start with kde-core and build my way up
[06:05] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Okay, supposedly this program was written "right".
[06:05] <jarn_> Yorokobi: And that's when the computer is on? Then, assuming he program was written "right", I'm not vulnerable?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> jarn_, stupid question, but are you connecting on the right protocol? ie aim,icq, etc.
[06:06] <tin> if ubuntu didn't come around, i'd probly run debian-unstable and kde too
[06:06] <jarn_> hitmanWilly: Eh?
[06:06] <Yorokobi> jarn_, pretty much. I'm a pessimist when it comes to security. (pessimist == paranoid) :)
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: it listens on one specific port, so in theory, it will only take traffic directed to that particular port
[06:06] <tin> but i like how many packages on the kubuntu repos have nice integration with the K menu and such
[06:06] <jarn_> Yorokobi: And when the computer is off I'm not vulnerable no matter what because connections to that port would just time out?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> jarn_, sorry, wrong person :)
[06:07] <tin> saves me time of building the menu and junk
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: i think you were directing that toward _3fg
[06:07] <_3fg> yeah, it's the right protocol
[06:07] <_3fg> I added someone then talked to them
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: unless they have a magic connection that can bind to fairy sockets in dreamland, if the pc's off you're safe
[06:08] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: Okay.
[06:08] <_3fg> but it didn't add any of them
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> _3fg, so its not saving your groups then? hmmm
[06:08] <_3fg> I have to add people manually
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> the words are nonsense, but the tone makes up for it :)
[06:08] <dwidmann> tin: Yeah, I do too ... big thing I wanted to play with in Etch was the new crypt setup thing... works well, and performs very smooth, and here I thought it might make things lag or something, nope, not the case.
[06:08] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido and Yorokobi, thanks. I know little/nothing about firewalls and related things.
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> no problem
[06:08] <Yorokobi> jarn_, the most secure PC is one *not* connected to the Internet :)
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> just remember, if the pc's off, it's really unlikely to ever be infected
[06:08] <tin> dwidmann: but you could get that from Feisty, just update your sources
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> except for the aforementioned magic packets
[06:08] <jarn_> Yorokobi: But I have other PCs on the network and they're what I'm really worried about. THEY run Windows. :P
[06:09] <jarn_> The other computers on the network wouldn't be vulnerable either by me forwarding a port, would they?
[06:10] <tin> all Kubuntu is is a shiny shell on debian. the base is a linux kernel,debian base system and debian package tools
[06:10] <dwidmann> tin: Oh? I meant the crypt setup integrated into the installer though ... functions just like how you would do lvm or raid
[06:10] <tin> i could build up a feisty system from etch if i wanted to
[06:10] <tin> oh, installer is different story
[06:10] <tin> but i'm sure you could set that same stuff up after the install
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: 8888 is forwarded to the pc running gnump3d, then the others should be just fine
[06:11] <tin> i could also build (down?) an etch system from a Feisty install
[06:11] <dwidmann> I'm willing to bet feisty+1 or feisty+2 will probably get the crypt stuff in the installer, no guarentee, but it's a likely possibility
[06:11] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: Again, even when the comp running it is off?
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yep, it will just time out
[06:12] <tin> what is that stuff?
[06:12] <jarn_> Okay.
[06:12] <dwidmann> sets up encrypted partitions via dmcrypt ...
[06:12] <intelikey> and the gas company pays the land owned $1.55/m ft^3 of gas.   amounts to about 200 per 6 months
[06:12] <intelikey> sorry wrong channel
[06:13] <dwidmann> intelikey: I was going to say, that seemed random
[06:13] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I thought it was a joke or something
[06:14] <intelikey> dwidmann yeah kinda. sorta.   i was just ranting to this guy...   joined here and didn't ^X back to the other....
[06:14] <tin> i don't see encrypted partitions as high priority for ubuntu devs though
[06:14] <vontux> what does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?
[06:14] <tin> humans tend to forget things, including passphrases ;-)
[06:14] <dwidmann> tin: no, but the work is basically already done, shouldn't take too much work to pull it down from debian
[06:14] <tin> and since ubuntu is linux for human beings
[06:15] <dwidmann> tin: if I were to forget my passphrase, I'd, I'd cry.
[06:15] <dwidmann> gig upon countless gig, can't afford to lose my stuff :(
[06:16] <tin> yeah, i'm just thinking that for ubuntu's target audience (everyone), most of them aren't going to need it, and even the option will make confusion
[06:16] <vontux> dwidmann: log in via live-cd and recover that way?
[06:16] <intelikey> dwidmann better do backups then...
[06:16] <tin> dwidmann: exactly!
[06:17] <dwidmann> vontux: I was thinking about the future: and if I were to have such troubles, a live cd would be of no use,  the hypothetical scenario being that I forget my LUKS passphrase
[06:17] <tin> i would be suprised to see it on the server install in 7.10 though
[06:17] <tin> wouldn't be**
[06:17] <dwidmann> intelikey: I don't exactly have the capacity to do so, but I do have some backed up, and I can get some of it back
[06:18] <intelikey> dwidmann anything on a "single" source is not safe.   hd's die  dvd's get scratched,stolen... if it's worth keeping it's worth keeping twice.
[06:19] <dwidmann> intelikey: yeah, no doubt
[06:19] <dwidmann> Having to re-rip all of my cds would scare me though. That would take forever and a day
[06:20] <intelikey> that ole spear chicking music will blow your computer up anyway.
[06:20] <dwidmann> intelikey: I've got some of it backed up in two or even three places ....
[06:21] <dwidmann> spear chicking? wtf? ?_?
[06:21] <intelikey> chuckin'   sorry.  typo
[06:26] <intelikey> heh,  waithing on an hd to become free...  until umount /dev/hdb ;do sync ;done
[06:32] <UltraBread> hey
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> hello
[06:32] <UltraBread> whats wrong with gnome
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> i could write a book on that one
[06:33] <UltraBread> for n00bs, what is wrong with it
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> for newbies, it actually might be alright...but that's where it ends
[06:34] <UltraBread> well let's say what am i missing out?
[06:34] <UltraBread> beside nautilus, everything is fine to me
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> then stick with it if you like it :) i like kde better for various reasons, but i still use quite a few gnome apps
[06:36] <UltraBread> like firefox? :D
[06:36] <Jucato> UltraBread: there is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. it all depends on people's preferences. different people, different preferences. it all boils down to choice.
[06:36] <Jucato> (Firefox is *not* a GNOME app)
[06:37] <UltraBread> iti sn't but what libraries it uses
[06:37] <Jucato> it uses GTK+ (on Linux)
[06:38] <UltraBread> that doesn't sound like qt to me
[06:38] <Jucato> neither is it GNOME
[06:38] <UltraBread> gnome uses gtk
[06:38] <UltraBread> thus firefox = gnome
[06:38] <UltraBread> :D
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> just because something doesn't use qt, doesn't make it a gnome app
[06:38] <Jucato> Xfce uses GTK. is it GNOME?
[06:38] <deathguppie> Gnome is built on GTK.. and so is Firefox.. but Firefox actually has a wrapper for GTK called XUL
[06:38] <intelikey> there is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. <<<<   ah some would differ.   gnome is one to those things that..... i'm off topic again aren't i.
[06:38] <Jucato> UltraBread: GTK = the GIMP ToolKit
[06:39] <UltraBread> yeah.
[06:39] <intelikey> disreguard...
[06:39] <Jucato> intelikey: we've all been offtopic :)
[06:39] <deathguppie> So technically Firefox is actually built on XUL
[06:39] <cje> hi guys, I am a relatively new kubuntu user.  I am trying to delete files on a relatively fresh install of Edgy Kubuntu.  There is no trash icon on my desktop!  heh.  I found the trash dir, but rmdir -Rf ~path/to/trash didn't work, saying the dirs were non-empty.  Is there a graphical tool that could help me?  Thanks in advance.
[06:39] <Jucato> UltraBread: Firefox uses GTK on Linux. that doesn't make it a GNOME app
[06:39] <DaveQB> hi all, I am trying to remaster the Kubuntu Desktop iso. I can't find the usr/share/wallpapaer dir in the squashfs. Where does Kubuntu set the wallpaper from ?
[06:39] <Jucato> not all GTK apps are GNOME apps
[06:40] <UltraBread> none are kde apps
[06:40] <deathguppie> cje: are you using beryl or xgl??
[06:40] <Jucato> cje: shouldn't there be a Trash icon on your panel by default?
[06:40] <cje> deathguppie: I am not using either berly or xgl
[06:40] <xmb> http://losers.yore.ma/~merchelo/tor/
[06:40] <xmb> ^^ free downloads
[06:41] <UltraBread> cje: you can add trash on panel if it isn't there
[06:41] <pclogin> OMG please help  Linux is killing me.  HOW do you install a program? The instructions say to enter into terminal MAKE, then MAKE INSTALL but this simply will not work
[06:41] <Jucato> xmb: please don't spam
[06:41] <cje> UltraBread:  how do I add it please?
[06:41] <sred13> PClogin is now SRED13
[06:41] <UltraBread> shameless advertising
[06:41] <deathguppie> cje:hmm... just a sec
[06:41] <xmb> Jucato: Hmmm, it's technically not spam......
[06:41] <cje> pclogin: what version are you using?
[06:41] <xmb> It's not advertising either.
[06:41] <xmb> It's just free stuff...
[06:41] <sred13> ubuntu 6.10
[06:42] <DaveQB> sred13  what are you trying to install ?
[06:42] <xmb> Ban me anyways.
[06:42] <sred13> I'
[06:42] <sred13> Trying to install NDISwrapper
[06:42] <cje> pclogin:  There is a nice graphical installer
[06:42] <UltraBread> cje: right click on empty spot on the main panel -> add...
[06:42] <deathguppie> cje: it should be on the lower right hand of your panel
[06:42] <Jucato> !ndiswrapper
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <Jucato> sred13: seen that guide? ^^^
[06:42] <sred13> got it untarred but I it seems like the files are for a different version of Ubuntu
[06:43] <cje> deathguppie:  heh, I guess I feel silly
[06:43] <sred13> Which is better?  MadWifi or NDiswrapper
[06:43] <deathguppie> heh.. it's ok.. I actually had too look
[06:43] <cje> deathguppie:  thanks for pointing out the obvious.  My apologies for not seeing it!!
[06:44] <deathguppie> cje:actually I'm just trying this comming from Gentoo for the last few years..
[06:44] <cje> deathguppie:  interesting.
[06:44] <cje> deathguppie:  I am coming over from SuSE
[06:44] <xmb> deathguppie: why gentoo -> kubuntu ?
[06:44] <deathguppie> not sure if I'm going to stay, because the build environment kinda sucks.. and I'm working on a game using Crystal Space
[06:45] <deathguppie> xmb:just wanted to see if it really could be as easy as just clicking a few buttons..
[06:45] <deathguppie> If I just wanted a desktop it would be..
[06:45] <xmb> deathguppie: ah right, well it is....
[06:45] <Jucato> (it is... if that's what you want)
[06:45] <cje> deathguppie:  thanks to deathguppie and everyone else who tried to help me.  I'm going to go home how.  See ya.
[06:45] <deathguppie> cya
[06:46] <xmb> deathguppie: If you want a source-based disro which is better than gentoo, try sourcemage.
[06:46] <xmb> *distro
[06:46] <deathguppie> xmb:sourcemage is missing a lot of packages.. I'm downloading Saybayon right now
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> deathguppie, well, after gentoo, just about anything seems easy :)
[06:46] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: even LFS? :D
[06:47] <deathguppie> hitmanWilly: unless you are trying to compile something..
[06:47] <deathguppie> Gentoo's build system is really stable
[06:47] <Jucato> well, Gentoo was built for compiling :)
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> deathguppie, i came over from slack myself
[06:47] <Jucato> most binary distros have their own stable build systems to produce binary packages.
[06:48] <deathguppie> hitmanWilly: that was my first distro back in 1996 :)
[06:48] <scast> !lamp
[06:48] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:48] <xmb> deathguppie: you might aswell just reinstall gentoo then, sabayon is the same thing
[06:49] <Jucato> (gentoo users would beg to disagree though)
[06:49] <deathguppie> xmb: actually Saybayon has a full binary install disk
[06:49] <xmb> Most gentoo users are idiots.
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> Sabayon is gentoo for dummies...
[06:49] <deathguppie> xmb: thanks
[06:49] <xmb> deathguppie: That makes no sense.
[06:49] <Jucato> !coc
[06:49] <xmb> deathguppie: Don't thank me, I'm one also.
[06:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:50] <deathguppie> well.. I'm not here to talk about Gentoo.. or Saybayon though
[06:50] <xmb> Good.
[06:50] <deathguppie> I was actually hoping for help with my tool chain
[06:50] <deathguppie> on kubuntu
[06:50] <deathguppie> there are a lot of missing packages that I need.. one of which is Freetype2
[06:50] <xmb> I'm sick of hearing about 31337 CFLAGS like, --lasers-and-smoke, and --omg-optimized
[06:51] <deathguppie> xmb:even ubuntu uses custom flags when they need them.. and there are a very few occasions when they do make sense..
[06:52] <xmb> deathguppie: :-)
[06:52] <deathguppie> anyone know where to find a package for Freetype2??
[06:52] <Jucato> !info libfreetype6-dev
[06:52] <ubotu> libfreetype6-dev: FreeType 2 font engine, development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 625 kB, installed size 2980 kB
[06:52] <Jucato> or drop the -dev if you don't need the headers
[06:52] <deathguppie> ubotu: thanks
[06:52] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:52] <Jucato> :P
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's new
[06:53] <Jucato> deathguppie: apt-cache search, apt:/ (in Konqueror), and http://packages.ubuntu.com are helpful in searching for packages
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> or synaptic's search works pretty good too
[06:54] <deathguppie> ubotu: actually it may install freetype2 but I can't find it on the system and neither can my config file..
[06:54] <Jucato> or Adept :)
[06:54] <Jucato> deathguppie: you're talking to a bot
[06:55] <deathguppie> Jucato: bots can be sexy.. heh.. :)
[06:55] <Jucato> deathguppie: you mean ./configure is complaining? did you install the -dev package then?
[06:55] <deathguppie> np.. I'll do that
[06:56] <deathguppie> Jucato: usually I don't need the header files though..
[06:56] <deathguppie> I just need the libs installed
[06:56] <Jucato> deathguppie: for compiling, most of the time you do
[06:56] <Jucato> on Kubuntu, at least
[06:56] <Jucato> (there's not distinction between foo and foo-dev in Gentoo, of course)
[06:56] <deathguppie> sometimes.. it depends
[06:56] <xmb> http://losers.yore.ma/~merchelo/tor/
[06:57] <scast> Stupid Internet >_>
[06:57] <scast> !apache
[06:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:57] <scast> Aight.
[06:57] <deathguppie> Jucato: that is because everything is compiled..
[06:58] <Jucato> deathguppie: exactly
[06:58] <scast> It's the same process in 6.06 and in 7.04?
[06:58] <Jucato> scast: mostly, except there's no PHP 4 in Feisty I think
[06:59] <deathguppie> apache is easy..
[06:59] <Jucato> deathguppie: anyway, if you run into more ./configure problems about missing headers/libs, try instaling -dev versions of the needed package
[06:59] <deathguppie> LDAP through SSL can be a pain though :) heh
[06:59] <deathguppie> jucato.. I'll give it a try.. thanks.. guess I've been using source for too long
[07:00] <N0Lif3|lappy> My laptop can't seem to detect my Linksys WPC54G wireless card. I have it plugged in, but can't be found with "dmesg." Also, it isn't lighting up either.
[07:00] <_3fg> any way I can make firefox conform to kde's settings?
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, it seems that the "suggested tracks" dynamic playlist no longer works properly in amarok 1.4.5
[07:00] <Jucato> _3fg: like?
[07:00] <_3fg> it still acts like I'm using GNOME
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> uh, yeah
[07:01] <_3fg> like the mac-like toolbar doesn't work with FF
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> use konqueror instead
[07:01] <Jucato> _3fg: it really wont
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that's about your only option
[07:01] <_3fg> it sucks
[07:01] <_3fg> k, I'll just keep using Opera then
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, but FF isn't tied to any one DE
[07:01] <Jucato> although it's very much tied to one Toolkit
[07:01] <kubuntu_user07> hi all
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> oh yes
[07:01] <_3fg> Konqueror is a failure of a browser
[07:01] <kubuntu_user07> quick question about kubuntu 7.04
[07:02] <N0Lif3|lappy> _3fg: did you get the mac-like toolbar working in Opera?
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> no, actually konqueror's pretty decent
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> i read somewhere ubuntu 7.04 had compiz installed by default does kubuntu 7.04?
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> same backend as safari
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> not installed by default, no
[07:02] <_3fg> I did not, but since Konqueror sucks I'll just use the best option
[07:02] <Jucato> he left before he got an answer :)
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> sorry
[07:02] <Jucato> kubuntu_user07: the answer is no
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> closed wrong thing stupid windows
[07:03] <kubuntu_user07> ok does ubuntu 7.04?
[07:03] <N0Lif3|lappy> Konqueror is fine. what don't you like about it. 3fg
[07:03] <_3fg> well, I wasn't able to get mouse gestures to work, likely because my mouse is a touchpad and it isn't fully supported
[07:03] <_3fg> it's slow
[07:03] <_3fg> nah, the gmail thing doesn't bother me
[07:03] <kubuntu_user07> so copiz is not installed by default on either distro?
[07:03] <Jucato> hm... KDE has support for system wide (not only Konqueror) gestures
[07:03] <N0Lif3|lappy> _3fg: lol, mouse gestures work fine for< me in konqueror
[07:03] <_3fg> I know
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> rendering's nice and speedy, gestures are no problem...
[07:04] <_3fg> I'm pretty sure it's my mouse
[07:04] <_3fg> it randomly stops loading pages
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> then it's not konqueror
[07:04] <N0Lif3|lappy> 3fg, change the settings to use the second clicker
[07:04] <_3fg> no, but the mouse gestures DO work in Opera
[07:04] <_3fg> and I tried all the settings, N0Lif3
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> not the ones that work though :P
[07:05] <rene> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[07:05] <Jucato> !de | rene
[07:05] <ubotu> rene: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:05] <rene> thx :-)
[07:05] <rene> bye
[07:07] <bill_> Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch.
[07:07] <_3fg> but yeah, since my mousepad isn't supported by the kernel
[07:07] <Jucato> !de | bill_
[07:07] <ubotu> bill_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:07] <_3fg> mouse touchpad thingy
[07:08] <_3fg> mouse gestures only work in Opera
[07:08] <bill_> hey, is there a way for me to play wma's?
[07:08] <_3fg> VLC?
[07:08] <bill_> lol, I know, I was just telling him I speak a bit of german
[07:08] <Jucato> !w32codecs | bill_
[07:08] <ubotu> bill_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:09] <Jucato> (or kmplayer)
[07:09] <_3fg> I need to go to the store
[07:09] <_3fg> bye
[07:11] <deathguppie> hey.. ubotu pm'd me.. you thinks it's a girl?? .. heh
[07:11] <Jucato> it is an it :)
[07:12] <deathguppie> ya.. rain on my glory.. see if I care..
[07:12] <underdog5004> deathguppie, that means that someone wants you to know something w/o spamming the main channel
[07:12] <deathguppie> what if your wrong.. what if it happens to be one of those hot Stepford wives??
[07:14] <deathguppie> 	<ubotu>	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:14] <deathguppie> see.. isn't that sweet...
[07:14] <deathguppie> heh
[07:15] <deathguppie> oh wait.. I just got this new PM from ubotu...
 oh.. my... this heat sink is really seaming me up.. can you help me get this cover off???
[07:16] <deathguppie> bow chicka bow wow...
[07:16] <deathguppie> heh
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !eww
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eww - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <underdog5004> rofl....at deathguppie....not with him
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm.  the bot should really know something about eww.
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> especialy in regards to that
[07:17] <epimeth> goooood morning!
[07:19] <purpleposeidon> epimeth: maybe for you :b
[07:19] <epimeth> why? whats wrong, purpleposeidon?
[07:20] <purpleposeidon> epimeth: the sun has a nasty habbit of being on only one side of the earth a time
[07:21] <epimeth> haven't we decided on some sort of earth standard time yet?
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> well, yeah, the outside.  life would be very difficult if it shone on the inside.  or... we'd be extra crispy mole-men
[07:22] <epimeth> not really... look at beach bums... they're in the sun all day and they aren't crispy... just super tan... damn, I'm in the wrong business...
[07:22] <epimeth> the weatherman said the weather would be awesome today... :-(
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, but if the sun were INSIDE the earth, it would be a great deal closer to those beach bums, and they would probably have a complexion like a cheap leather handbag
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, would have? :)
[07:23] <ben23> hi, I am trying to set up ssl with apache 2 in feisty, but apache2-ssl-certificate is missing, and I don't know how to install it
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: touche.
[07:24] <ben23> I noticed there is a bug report for that also
[07:24] <epimeth> now we're just talking physical impossibility... if the sun were inside the earth the earth would have imploded under the sun's gravitation feild long ago!  lets stick to there being sun indoors for the time being
[07:24] <epimeth> launchpad or sun-drivers ?
[07:25] <epimeth> I hear it comes prepackaged with java
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> epimeth: it may be impossible, but that doesn't mean it can't happen!
[07:25] <epimeth> mmm... coffee
[07:26] <epimeth> sorry to dissapoint, but I haven't hooked up a mic... you'll have to settle for silence on my end
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, happy now? :)
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> quite!
[07:26] <epimeth> ohmygod!  its a ghost! run!!!
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> now i need a smoke before bed
[07:28] <flo> hello
[07:30] <epimeth> ahoy flo
[07:31] <wolferine> whats good to use after tovid, for making the menus and burning to a DVD?
[07:32] <flo> epimeth: hows it goin
[07:32] <flo> i love ubuntu.  usin it on my imac
[07:33] <epimeth> not bad... trying to figure out how to patch my sound card... stupid amazing ultra new laptop
[07:39] <flo> is there any way to installall software thru synaptic without having to select each?
[07:40] <Jucato> flo: you just have to select the package that you want and it automatically selects anything else that it needs
[07:43] <epimeth> jucato.... I have no idea what to do!  I have a c file here from also that is supposed to fix my sound... there is absolutely no menion of how to apply the patch!  or at least not that I noticed...
[07:44] <Mussorgsky> why changing the gamma correction does nothing?
[07:44] <epimeth> Jucato: found it... arg... I *really* don't want to do all this
[07:45] <dxdt> Is there a way to make Konqueror show tiny previews of the movie the same way Ubuntu does with movie clips?
[07:46] <Grape_Juice> Print out photos of the movie and tape them to your screen. :p
[07:46] <epimeth> wtf is Katapult?
[07:46] <Jucato> !katapult | epimeth
[07:46] <ubotu> epimeth: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:46] <Jucato> (once you learn how it works, you'll be saying "wtf did I only learn about this now!")
[07:47] <Jucato> epimeth: oh, it's installed by default already...
[07:47] <dxdt> Grape_Juice, not helpful
[07:47] <epimeth> whoa
[07:47] <Grape_Juice> Sorry, I'm weird. :>
[07:47] <Jucato> (and on a fresh Kubuntu install, running by default)
[07:47] <epimeth> soooo much cooler than alt+f2
[07:47] <Jucato> of course :)
[07:47] <Grape_Juice> Stupid keyboard shortcuts. :<
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> They make you reach all the way across the keyboard. :<
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> I"M LAZY!!! Too much work. :<
[07:48] <epimeth> stupid keyboard shortcuts??? you crazy?  I *hate* mice
[07:48] <Jucato> aren't you glad they're so configurable? :)
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> Alt + SpaceBar
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> ftw
[07:48] <epimeth> but thats exactly it, picking up my hand to go to the mouse is too much work for me :-)
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> ahaha
[07:49] <epimeth> left thumb: lalt, right thumb: space... whats so hard about that?
[07:49] <Jucato> dxdt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 scrolldown to the part for Kubuntu Dapper. Video previews
[07:49] <Jucato> dxdt: Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files.
[07:50] <dxdt> hmmm OK, cool.  I figured since the videos could already play, that I wouldn't need some codecs or anything but meh I'll install the package and see what it does, thanks!
[07:52] <epimeth> great... now even if I *had* sound I couldn't hear anything
[08:00] <_3fg> how can I configure my mouse settings?
[08:00] <_3fg> it keeps clicking every time I touch the damn pad
[08:08] <posingaspopular> so, my wireless pci card wont show in xubuntu feisty when i do lspci or try to connect to the net (no response in #xubuntu). what should i do?
[08:09] <_3fg> well feisty didn't work for me at all, wireless card, sound, etc
[08:13] <juliano> heloo
[08:13] <_3fg> how do I text edit a file as root?
[08:13] <_3fg> sudo _____ /file
[08:13] <juliano> the game cube is very slow in my machine, whats?
[08:14] <juliano> the version 7.04 is a good version?
[08:15] <_3fg> feisty fawn?
[08:15] <_3fg> barely worked for me, so I downgraded
[08:15] <juliano> anyone use this version here?
[08:16] <Lynoure> juliano: Yes, many
[08:16] <juliano> is good?
[08:16] <Lynoure> juliano: I have been using it since before beta. I like it, but mind you, I have no experience on upgrading to it.
[08:17] <_3fg> Lynoure: does Kubuntu use xorg.conf the same way ubuntu does?
[08:17] <Lynoure> juliano: For me Basket and (easily fixable) Palm sync made it well worth switching to from Dapper
[08:18] <Lynoure> _3fg: The only real difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is that one has KDE and other has Gnome, so yes.
[08:18] <_3fg> ok
[08:18] <_3fg> then how do I edit something as root?
[08:19] <_3fg> I can't figure out the command to use KDE apps instead of Gnome apps to edit stuff
[08:20] <Jucato> _3fg: right-click on the file in Konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as root. or press Alt+F2 and enter "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (for example)
[08:20] <Lynoure> _3fg: kdesu kate filename
[08:20] <Lynoure> Jucato: :)
[08:20] <_3fg> kdesu, that's it
[08:20] <Jucato> gksudo for GNOME, kdesu for KDE
[08:21] <epimeth> and make sure that when things are installed to the menu automatically to change any "gksu" to "kdesu"
[08:21] <epimeth> ie: NTFS Configuration Tool
[08:22] <_3fg> hm, how do I change my mouse's driver/
[08:24] <jkjk> Is there an easy way to install Gnome on Kubuntu so that i can choose between KDE & Gnome when logging in via KDM ?
[08:25] <Jucato> jkjk: yes. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[08:26] <jkjk> Jucato: Thanks!
[08:27] <dac_> password for wallet invalod, what can I do?
[08:28] <dac_> invalad
[08:30] <dac_> password for wallet invalid, what can I do?
[08:49] <xushi> hi all, i want to install kubuntu on my HD, which is divided into C:\ and D:\. C:\ has windows on it. I want to replace D:\ with kubuntu. But i remember back in the old days that said the OS had to be in the first X bites of the hard drive or something.. will i have a problem?
[08:49] <xushi> boot sector *
[08:54] <Sesshoumaru> anybody here with ubuntu 7.04?  i need help with wine
[08:57] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: More than likely, everyone here runs Fiesty Fawn...
[08:58] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: well.. i need to know why wine isn't working
[08:58] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: WINE"s an emulator.. might help more if I knew what app you were trying to run
[08:58] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i have reinstalled ubuntu and wine a bunch of times
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Hmm
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: are you trying to run a specific windows app ?
[08:59] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steam
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Steam ?
[09:00] <jbrouhard> Got a linky ?
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steampowered.com
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steam works good with wine
[09:00] <CarinArr> hey.. i have a bit of a problem if anyone could help me. I had the nvidia drivers off nvidia's website installed, and they were working perfectly, but i saw the nvidia-glx-new package and thought i'd give it a shot. I uninstalled the other nvidia drivers and installed the package, but no kernel module seems to have been installed, and when i restarted the computer i couldn't start x (which is fair enough cause it can't find an nvidia kernel module), so 
[09:00] <CarinArr> bloody hell.. didn't realise i'd typed that much;)
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> lol
[09:01] <jbrouhard> Oh
[09:01] <jbrouhard> Steam is like GameSpy huh ?
[09:01] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: (<_<).. no
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Looks like it ;)
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Lemme see if it works here
[09:02] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you need steam to play games like half-life and counter-strike
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Huh
[09:02] <jbrouhard> <-- in a gaming clan and most of my members play CS:S... They never mentioned Steam
[09:03] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: wine just doesn't install right, and theres no shortcuts liek it never fully installs
[09:03] <jbrouhard> Huh
[09:03] <jbrouhard> download is a .msi
[09:03] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i tried exe and msi from different sites
[09:04] <jbrouhard> Well, i was able to install it
[09:04] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: it always get errors
[09:05] <jbrouhard> Well
[09:05] <jbrouhard> only errors I'm getting
[09:05] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: its weird cause i had all this stuff before and everything worked
[09:05] <jbrouhard> are missing fonts
[09:05] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you have ubuntu 7.04?
[09:05] <jbrouhard> Yes
[09:07] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: the fonts error is simple..   WHY ME!?
[09:07] <jbrouhard> Well
[09:07] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: I can't READ anything.  the buttons are colored out (as if the text isn't there, simply)
[09:09] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you have to put tahoma font in the wine fonts directory
[09:09] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: but my problem is that i can't even start the installer without errors
[09:10] <jbrouhard> What error
[09:10] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: with exe i get error... with msi i get no response at all
[09:11] <jbrouhard> Open WIne File
[09:11] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: the file 'C:\windows\temp\glf7db.tmp' could not be opened
[09:12] <jbrouhard> oOO
[09:12] <jbrouhard> That's weird.. i didn't have that issue
[09:12] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i opened winefile
[09:13] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: and the .tmp name is different everytime
[09:14] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard:  i think my computer isn't configered right.. also i think my IDE cable is bad
[09:15] <Moo-> CAn someone help me? Where can I change the screen resolution? I can't find it from system settings
[09:15] <Sesshoumaru> xorg.cfg
[09:15] <Jucato> Moo-: System Settings -> Monitor & Display?
[09:16] <Moo-> Jucato: I can't see that anywhere
[09:16] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i got the msi working through winefile
[09:16] <Moo-> jaaroo: I remember that I have seen that, but now it just isn't there
[09:16] <Jucato> check if you have the package called "kde-guidance" installed
[09:17] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: So did it install ?
[09:18] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: yeah.. but still, somethings not right // just a feeling (<_<)
[09:21] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: wine did not create any shortcuts for steam..
[09:26] <intelikey> i just used the dapper live cd and let it do everything automatic and the system was installed... but unbootable.   it didn't install grub on the first hd
[09:26] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: Fatal Error: Cound not load module 'bin/vgui2.dll'
[09:27] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: it must be my computer like a bad cable or something..
[09:27] <jbrouhard> actually
[09:27] <jbrouhard> doh.. he left before I could respond :(
[09:27] <intelikey> ndiswarper ?
[09:29] <romo> ahoy
[09:32] <intelikey> what package to i remove to get rid of all the gnome stuff?   err actually all the ubuntu-desktop stuff ?      or is there a simple way ?
[09:33] <fdoving> intelikey: if you use aptitude remove, i belive it will tell you some packges were installed as depenencies, and suggest their removal.
[09:35] <fdoving> intelikey: if not, i think most of gnome depend on libgnome2-0, not sure though.
[09:35] <intelikey> k   ty
[09:35] <akrus> hm... KDE4 Alpha to be released today? :)
[09:37] <Moo-> Now I got the right resolution back, but the font size in adept is way too small to read, how do I fix those fonts and how did all these changed suddenly?
[09:38] <fdoving> akrus: no, it'll be tagged the 3rd.
[09:38] <MrWGW-> morning
[09:40] <akrus> oh
[09:40] <akrus> two days to live without KDE4 T_T
[09:40] <akrus> I'm likely going to die
[09:40] <akrus> xD
[09:40] <akrus> someone already upgraded to Gutsy?
[09:44] <Moo-> That problem fixed, now the next one, I finaly got the Distribution Upgrade tool to fork but it jams on preparingstep after fetching 54 of 62 files
[09:46] <renato> Hi, I am on feisty, I have an ati card and two screen and I have set it up as a "big desktop". The setup was working under edgy. The Big Destop setup is working untill I log in, then it switches back to "clone mode" where the second screen clones the first, so ti seems to be some kubuntu related setting that makes it working this way. Anybody has been working this same issue out?
[09:49] <codonil> Any idea where i can find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum ?
[09:51] <renato> it looks like most of the people are asleep.....
[09:51] <codonil> yeah
[09:51] <codonil> even the website is down
[09:52] <RytmenPinnen> there is a problem with my packet handler
[09:52] <RytmenPinnen> it says its allready in use but I just booted up
[09:53] <fdoving> !adept fix | rytmenpinnen
[09:53] <ubotu> rytmenpinnen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:53] <fdoving> renato: mergedfb or xinerama?
[09:55] <renato> fdloving: mergedfb
[09:55] <renato> fdloving: xinerama is deadly slow and no 3d
[09:57] <renato> if I check on the settings (my screens are both 1600x1200) I see I can select a 3200x1200 which should do if it was not for the fact that if I try that the setting panel crashes. where does that panel stores it's setting? (no, it is not xorg.conf)
[10:00] <codonil> I can't find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum anywhere...
[10:01] <codonil> maybe I'll just use the torrent to verify data
[10:02] <alexander> Hiya guys. Anyone know of a good downloading program for music
[10:04] <lips> german or english
[10:04] <alexander> english prefferable
[10:05] <CarinArr> !de
[10:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:05] <_StefanS_> du bist ein berliner
[10:05] <alexander> mein deutsch ist nicht so Gut
[10:05] <_StefanS_> or something..
[10:05] <_StefanS_> :D
[10:05] <Jucato> heh
[10:05] <_StefanS_> hey Jucatohhh
[10:06] <alexander> Anyone have a downloading program in English?
[10:06] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_ssssss :)
[10:06] <lips> my problem is that my extern mouse does not work under ubuntu i'm using a laptop and the touchpad works perfect
[10:07] <alexander> Im using a laptop now, and my mouse works
[10:07] <_StefanS_> lips: is it a bluetooth mouse?
[10:07] <alexander> not cordless :D
[10:08] <lips> no its a normal usbmouse not cordless
[10:08] <alexander> mine aswell
[10:08] <alexander> should work
[10:08] <lips> i dont know i recognised that it doesnt :-P
[10:09] <lips> even the red light isnt working
[10:09] <alexander> what brand is it?
[10:09] <lips> Logitech
[10:09] <alexander> right
[10:09] <lips> nothing special
[10:09] <alexander> I had the same problem on my server
[10:09] <lips> just a simple mouse 2buttons and a wheel
[10:10] <lips> but it is not so urgent, because im using openSuse and i just want to test other distributions
[10:10] <alexander> ok
[10:11] <lips> but how do you fix it
[10:12] <RytmenPinnen> Finally kubuntu is giving me a slack, The package manager is working again and I could install mp3 codecs. Now its just the nvidia drivers left
[10:15] <ubuntu> hi @ll
[10:17] <dev_> How to change boot splash image ??
[10:17] <Jucato> !usplash
[10:17] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:17] <dev_> thx
[10:17] <dev_> let me try out :)
[10:21] <h4wk-desktop> Where is the 'Alternate' CD's partitioner??
[10:22] <Jucato> h4wk-desktop: it's a text-based partitioner. there's no GUI to control it. you have enter values manually
[10:23] <h4wk-desktop> Yes i know Jucato - I cant run live CD to use the partion manager there - So Where is the text based one , I am in the cd welcome page now.
[10:25] <Jucato> h4wk-desktop: you will have to go through the installation steps. or I think you could choose expert mode so that you could choose the partitioning step directly
[10:30] <Nookie^> hi! is there any way to install kubuntu with no apps installed.. none office, none games etc.. just clean desktop?
[10:30] <imagine> hmm prolly
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, yes, install the desktop cd and remove them.
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, as of it, you cant choose before installing..
[10:31] <xushi> hi all!
[10:31] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: how can i remove evolution.. have tryied before but it says its not posible to remove
[10:31] <Nookie^> same thing with those games
[10:31] <xushi> just installed kubuntu =) but i'm trying to search for Nvu, i can't find it in the list. What should i do ?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> !nvu
[10:31] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[10:32] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, what errror do you get ,and with what app ?
[10:32] <xushi> thanks Hobbsee. I heard it was in some extra repository in adept though
[10:32] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: i get an error for example games... this package cant be removed since it depends on another programs
[10:32] <Nookie^> something like that
[10:33] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: it feels like im forced to have them =(
[10:33] <Hobbsee> xushi: it used to be
[10:33] <xushi> =/
[10:33] <xushi> I need it for work, that's the problem
[10:34] <zero1> hi guys!  how do i make hibernate work on my compaq presario v3000?  it says i don't have enough swap space when it try to
[10:35] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: poke @ xushi
[10:35] <Hobbsee> darn.  he's gone to sleep
[10:35] <xushi> hehe
[10:35] <xushi> no worries
[10:35] <Hobbsee> xushi: ask tonyyarusso about it later, he knows more
[10:35] <bobstro> zero1: how much ram and how much swap space do you have?
[10:35] <Jucato> wouldn't he be able to install Edgy's Nvu?
[10:35] <xushi> thanks Hobbsee
[10:36] <zero1> i got 1.5 gigs of ram and 256MB swap...i didn't realized i'd need that much swap.  for the past years i've notice swap is hardly ever touched
[10:37] <zero1> i made a swapfile so 256 from partition + 750 swapfile   1Gb of swap
[10:37] <bobstro> zero1: i'm no expert (and somebody correct me if i'm wrong) but i understand you need more swap than ram since it saves to swap.
[10:37] <zero1> doesn't work
[10:37] <zero1> holee...i'm gonna make 2x swap based on my mem?  3Gb?
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: no, but at least 1X.
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: check the forums to be certain, but i had issues until swap > ram size
[10:38] <zero1> ok i don't want to repartition ...is swapfile ok?  it's slower but i just want it to hibernate
[10:38] <Hobbsee> Jucato: maybe.
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: not sure about that.
[10:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it's still unmaintained
[10:39] <Jucato> yeah, it doesn't really solve the *real* problem...
[10:40] <zero1> hmm....guess i'll try then
[10:41] <zero1> i read someone made it work using this: uswsusp
[10:41] <zero1> is this good?
[10:41] <zero1> it's from the forums
[10:45] <roland_> whats wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?
[10:45] <roland_> images dont work
[10:48] <renato> damn feistu
[10:48] <renato> feisty
[10:48] <roland_> why
[10:53] <mikro2nd> good day
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Has anybody reported the following problem during an upgrade:
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:55] <heinkel_111> http://www.kubuntu.org is offline?
[10:55] <heinkel_111> or is it just me
[10:55] <Jucato> it is
[10:55] <heinkel_111> ?
[10:55] <heinkel_111> :(
[10:56] <roland_> hey, what is wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?
[10:56] <roland_> it blows
[10:56] <xushi> are there any tutorials on how to get LAMP5 on kubuntu ?
[10:57] <_4str1> !lamp | xushi
[10:57] <ubotu> xushi: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:57] <erikja> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <luca> -j #freenet-refs
[11:00] <xushi> thamks
[11:03] <renato> Hi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?
[11:12] <|ericsson|> Would anyone be a darling and help me with nvidia resolution problem in X?
[11:13] <pag> |ericsson|, what's the problem?
[11:13] <|ericsson|> Can't change resolution to anything over 640 now :/
[11:14] <pag> |ericsson|, are higher resolutions enabled in xorg?
[11:14] <orazio> salve a tutti
[11:14] <|ericsson|> pag: have the nvidia-glx-legacy (old TNT2 card in this one)
[11:14] <|ericsson|> pag: Yes, had 1280 yesterday for instance, before installed bastille..
[11:15] <pag> |ericsson|, sorry, bastille?
[11:15] <|ericsson|> pag: It just decided to go down to 640 by itself this morning...one of the reasons for me not liking GUI's ;)
[11:15] <|ericsson|> pag: yeah, I mean, bastille has got nothing to do with video, but after that the video did not work :)
[11:16] <|ericsson|> pag: Bastille was used to lock down ports and iptables so on, nothing to do with the videocard/settings
[11:16] <llutz> jeanette: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors or info why only 640x is used
[11:17] <llutz> |ericsson|: ^^ sry
[11:17] <|ericsson|> llutz: figured :) Have checked /var/log/Xorg.log and there is nothing wrong there..as far as I can see
[11:18] <llutz> |ericsson|: there'll be at least one line which says why this reso is used
[11:18] <|ericsson|> Modes: "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:18] <llutz> |ericsson|: thats xorg.cong
[11:18] <llutz> conf
[11:18] <|ericsson|> llutz: ah..hold on ;)
[11:19] <llutz> |ericsson|: maybe there's some info in /var/log/kdm.log too
[11:21] <|ericsson|> llutz: the latest nvidia entry is: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "800x600" but still resolution is 640 now
[11:21] <|ericsson|> !pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:23] <A_A> can u make a grub boot disk in windows or do i have to boot into kubuntu to do it ?
[11:23] <|ericsson|> haha, I can barely even paste due to enormously large windows :)
[11:24] <crazy_bus> my motherboard is not functioning correctly so I'm going to get a new one.  I'm looking for a new cpu at the same time but all I can see are 64bit cpus.  I've heard that 64bit k/ubuntu is hard to use and that some programs dont work.  Is this true and is it recommened I try and find a 32bit processor?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> lol
[11:24] <renato> Hi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?
[11:24] <don> i had that problem resoultion?
[11:24] <renato> my problem is my big deskot setting gets lost as soon as I log in
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: 1. you  can run 32 bit kubuntu on a 64 bit processor no problem
[11:25] <don> I could not change mine
[11:25] <llutz> crazy_bus: you can install 32bit aswell, 64bit is only recommended for servers or on special hardware
[11:25] <renato> meaning at the login I have a bigdestop 3200x1200, after I login I get 1600x1200 and clone mode
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: 2. 64 bit kubuntu is generally good and has no problems at all
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: unless you want to see flash on your webpages
[11:25] <don> all I could get 600X480
[11:26] <don> way to big
[11:26] <|ericsson|> don't know if it's anything but here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18538/
[11:26] <renato> don, for that you have to go into administrator mode and set your monitor settings
[11:26] <don> I got mine fixed
[11:26] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: flash on 64 bit is possible but it requires hacking
[11:26] <renato> well if you set plug and play sometimes it does not work, have a look if you can pick it up manually
[11:27] <don> I just kept swapping cards till it got it right
[11:27] <llutz> |ericsson|: "(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)" check xorg.conf or rest of the logs why
[11:27] <A_A> um
[11:27] <A_A> youtube uses flash doesnt it ?
[11:27] <epimeth> A_A: yes
[11:27] <A_A> i have 64bit kubuntu
[11:27] <A_A> flash came as default
[11:27] <Jucato> !flash64
[11:27] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:27] <A_A> got no problems with it
[11:28] <A_A> ah k
[11:28] <A_A> can i make a grub boot disk in windows ?
[11:28] <don> I had trouble with flash then Pandora radio loaded it for me
[11:28] <epimeth> Jucato: is there any point in installing beryl at this point in time?  I heard them and compiz are merging the development trees soon...
[11:29] <A_A> i will brb booting in kubuntu
[11:29] <Jucato> epimeth: don't really know.
[11:29] <epimeth> Jucato: do you use it?
[11:29] <Jucato> afaik, beryl will sort of become compiz-extras
[11:29] <Jucato> nope
[11:29] <_4strO> epimeth: on my box beryl just work fine
[11:30] <_4strO> and no Jucato beryl is actually different than compiz
[11:30] <epimeth> _4strO: not asking if it works, just wondering if its worth the maybe hassel
[11:30] <Jucato> _4strO: yes I know that part. I'm just not familiar with how their merger will work
[11:31] <epimeth> _4strO: beryl is just a fork, the trees will probably merge with little or no problems
[11:31] <epimeth> both of the teams seem to know what they are doing :-)
[11:31] <_4strO> yep and both team seems to be one actually ;)
[11:31] <epimeth> heh
[11:32] <_4strO> but in fact i had to remove compiz for adding beryl
[11:32] <Jucato> epimeth: although it won't merge exactly on a 1:1 ratio. I mean, the current compiz will be something like -core and beryl will be something like -extras
[11:32] <epimeth> so here's a question... is it enough to have direct rendering or do I need AIGLX or whatever?
[11:33] <epimeth> wow.... glxgears ran with absolutely no warnings... I've never seen that before
[11:33] <_4strO> :)
[11:33] <_4strO> so it's enough ;)
[11:33] <epimeth> is beryl in the feisty repos?
[11:33] <_4strO> just : sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[11:33] <A_A> how do i make a grub boot floppy ?
[11:36] <epimeth> _4strO: and now? just run beryl-manager ?
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> !resfix
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[11:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <epimeth> this is loading slowly.... maybe I should have ran it in the konsole?
[11:37] <epimeth> hrm
[11:37] <A_A> !grub boot floppy
[11:37] <epimeth> wheeee!!! spinny spinny
[11:37] <epimeth> one annoying problem:
[11:37] <A_A> [19:37:35]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:38] <A_A> =(
[11:38] <epimeth> it doesn't know how to deal with hidden programs... I have an annoying green dot on the top of my screen
[11:38] <Pinaraf> hi
[11:39] <bobstro> epimeth: you mean the adept icon?
[11:39] <Pinaraf> why is a guidance tool used for battery monitoring instead of the classical klaptop thing or kpowersave or any other tool like that ?
[11:39] <_4strO> epimeth: ??
[11:39] <_4strO> epimeth: beryl is slow ?
[11:40] <A_A> how do i make a grub boot floppy ?
[11:40] <epimeth> _4strO: yes, the adept icon, no beryl is fast, it just took beryl-manager a while to load the first time
[11:41] <_4strO> A_A: grub-install --help
[11:41] <epimeth> how do I get the zoomed out cube view with the windows popping out?
[11:41] <_4strO> epimeth: and now everything's just fine ?
[11:42] <_4strO> epimeth: ctrl-alt + buttin1
[11:42] <_4strO> ???
[11:42] <epimeth> everything is fine, yes
[11:42] <epimeth> I want the zoomed out view, not just the cube view
[11:43] <epimeth> the one where you see the windows floating above the sides of the cube
[11:43] <Moo-> There's another problen when upgradin to Feisty, Errors were encountered while processing: debconf
[11:43] <Moo-> And then the upgrade-software stops upgrading
[11:45] <_4strO> epimeth: dont know what you mean ...
[11:45] <epimeth> soooo maaannnyyy ooooptions.... (first time beryl settings manager actually works for me)
[11:46] <|ericsson|> hmm, now resolution is up to 800x600 but still looks creepy :/
[11:47] <epimeth> _4strO: if you look at the beryl demos on youtube they always have have a zoomed out view of ctrl+alt+mouse1... and the open windows, instead of being flat on the side of the cube, appear to float just above it at different distances
[11:47] <A_A> that doesnt tell me how to make a grub boot floppy
[11:47] <llutz> A_A: man grub-floppy
[11:48] <_4strO> epimeth: that what it does when i ctrl+alt+mouse1
[11:48] <|ericsson|> llutz: I added: Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" but still nothing :/
[11:48] <llutz> |ericsson|: you use "ddc" ?
[11:48] <_4strO> epimeth: button1 + button2 on ther desktop
[11:48] <_4strO> same ...
[11:49] <epimeth> _4strO: no no no....
[11:49] <epimeth> grrr
[11:49] <|ericsson|> llutz: haven't got it
[11:49] <_4strO> epimeth: you have to look at the param in the config
[11:49] <|ericsson|> llutz: if it's the sync-range detection you are refering to?
[11:49] <epimeth> when you go into "view cube" mode or whatever you want to call it, I see my windows flat on the side of the cube
[11:49] <llutz> |ericsson|: yes, sync and supported modes
[11:49] <don> I cant get that sudo command to work for resolution in my console
[11:50] <epimeth> I've seen on demos that they hover just above the side of the cube
[11:50] <llutz> |ericsson|: they should be listed in the xorg.0.log too
[11:50] <don> I dont need to but I wanted to see if it worked
[11:50] <_4strO> A_A:
[11:50] <_4strO> grub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by
[11:50] <_4strO> --root-directory, and uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot
[11:50] <_4strO> sector
[11:50] <|ericsson|> llutz: ah, it was loaded, I thought it wasn't..
[11:51] <_4strO> A_A: perhaps i can type the command for you ?
[11:51] <A_A> k
[11:51] <don> I would like to get it to respond
[11:51] <_4strO> A_A: grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/
[11:51] <epimeth> bbs... the bank calls me!
[11:51] <don> do you need arrows also
[11:52] <A_A> install device not specified
[11:52] <A_A> do u have to mount a flopy ?
[11:52] <rdallarmi> amazing, the way to let the big destop (ati driver) working was... to set up a different user and using it....
[11:52] <don> tried both ways
[11:52] <_4strO> A_A: think it's better :p
[11:52] <A_A> ^_^
[11:52] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, that's strange, Yesterday when I tried to enable nvidia drivers my resolution got messed up. I decieded to give it a try again today and follow the fixres steps again, but now for some reason just works :O
[11:53] <ubuntu_> j
[11:53] <|ericsson|> RytmenPinnen: for me it was the other way around, worked fine up until yesterday and now (after following fixres) it won't work :)
[11:53] <RytmenPinnen> :/
[11:53] <RytmenPinnen> why did you do fixres when it worked? :D
[11:54] <A_A> =\
[11:54] <vit_> hola
[11:54] <A_A> whats the command to mount a floppy, i have never done ti b4
[11:54] <|ericsson|> RytmenPinnen: Resolution changed after I installed Bastille (don't ask me why) ;)
[11:54] <A_A> it*
[11:54] <_4strO> sudo mount floppy
[11:54] <_4strO> sudo mount /dev/floppy
[11:54] <_4strO> didn't remember exacty
[11:55] <A_A> mount: can't find /dev/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:55] <_4strO> it's been a long time since i had a floppy disk
[11:55] <A_A> lol
[11:55] <|ericsson|> sudo apt-get autoremove creepy-desktop-settings
[11:55] <A_A> took me a while to find one too lol
[11:55] <A_A> o
[11:55] <A_A> if this is easier
[11:55] <A_A> when i put me 4th HDD in grub wont load
[11:55] <vit_> i have to speak spanish
[11:56] <|ericsson|> !es | vit_
[11:56] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:57] <A_A> how can u configure grub so when i plug another HDD in it will still work ?
[11:57] <_4strO> A_A: just plug it, mount everything
[11:57] <_4strO> and sudo grub-install
[11:57] <A_A> ay
[11:57] <_4strO> (i think)
[11:57] <A_A> i have grub
[11:58] <A_A> i plug another HDD in turn power on and i cant even get to grubs loading screen
[11:58] <_4strO> yes i dont say sudo apt-get install grub
[11:58] <A_A> to make a choice of what OS i want
[11:59] <_4strO> but sudo grub-install
[11:59] <A_A> will that install grub to a floppy ?
[11:59] <xushi> !lamp
[11:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:59] <xushi> damn.. i lost the link, can anyone please provide it for me again ?
[11:59] <xushi> thamks
[11:59] <_4strO> that will auto detect HD and write a new /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:59] <A_A> it cant detect a HDD when i cant boot up ?
[12:00] <_4strO> ...
[12:00] <A_A> im lost =\
[12:00] <don> check jumper settings
[12:01] <A_A> they are all right
[12:01] <A_A> worked fine until i installed kubuntu
[12:01] <A_A> whe i installed kubuntu i didnt have that HDD plugged in cause i needed power to me dvd drive
[12:01] <don> i had that happen and checked again try cs
[12:01] <levon> anyone know any good boy names for babies mines on the way 2 more months
[12:02] <xushi> Ok so the LAMP5 tutorial really needs a rewrite..
[12:02] <Jucato> Kubuntu :)
[12:02] <levon> lol
[12:02] <bobstro> levon: kidbuntu
[12:02] <xushi> it says nothing on how to start them, how to get them working as a service,
[12:02] <levon> rofl
[12:02] <levon> its not going to be an operating system lol
[12:02] <bobstro> levon: levon 2.0
[12:02] <levon> lol i guess i should have expected this haha
[12:02] <_4strO> xushi: because it do it automaticcaly perhaps ?
[12:02] <Jucato> or 1.5.0.1 :D
[12:02] <bobstro> levon: honestly? give him a simple name that's easy to pronounce.
[12:03] <levon> i got one bob
[12:03] <levon> lol
[12:03] <xushi> _4strO: i just installed them through adept, but i don't see them started
[12:03] <levon> my whife didnt agree to taht
[12:03] <bobstro> levon: best thing we did was NOT name ours after familymembers.
[12:03] <levon> oh adept
[12:03] <levon> thats real unique
[12:03] <Jucato> hm.. Mark (shuttleworth?)
[12:03] <bobstro> levon: adept is a kind a cool name i guess. :)
[12:03] <_4strO> xushi: ps aux | grep apache ?
[12:04] <Jucato> it just shows how inadept you are at choosing names
[12:04] <levon> i dont know if wife will go for it
[12:04] <bobstro> levon: we also went for one that works well with last name.
[12:04] <levon> yea this would work pretty good lol i was about to give out my last name
[12:04] <_4strO> xushi: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start ?
[12:04] <xushi> _4strO: my bad, you are right. What i was trying to do is to run mysql_install_db and it is giving me an error, saying possibly mysql isn't running
[12:04] <_4strO> ...
[12:04] <xushi> but indeed it's running
[12:04] <xushi> so time to debug
[12:04] <levon> shes cambodian my wife so i dont know
[12:05] <_4strO> xushi: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?
[12:05] <_4strO> ^^
[12:05] <levon> she came up with one i couldnt even pronounce
[12:05] <levon> veasnaboliaty
[12:05] <levon> something like that i cant type it lol
[12:05] <xushi> thanks _4strO.
[12:05] <Jucato> hm. anyway,
[12:06] <Jucato> !offtopic :)
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Jucato> bah
[12:06] <xushi> it's fun to try kubuntu after gentoo.. scary, but fun :)
[12:06] <Jucato> !offtopic
[12:06] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:06] <levon> aright guys im going to name him kubuntu have a good night
[12:06] <levon> :P
[12:06] <_4strO> xushi: think it will boot mysql automaticvally at your next reboot ;)
[12:07] <xushi> too used to doing everything manually.
[12:07] <xushi> this friendlyness will take a bit to get used to
[12:07] <heinkel_111> hey, I am trying to reformat a hard-drive but I cannot unmount it: resource busy! how to find out what is keeping the resource busy?
[12:07] <bobstro> xushi: don't worry, things will still break.
[12:07] <heinkel_111> i am working through ssh
[12:07] <xushi> hehe
[12:08] <xushi> i hope not.. i convinced my company to switch all their windows machines to linux
[12:08] <bobstro> xushi: i managed to get a conflict between sysvinit and sysvinit-utils, couldn't update anyting
[12:08] <xushi> to kubuntu *
[12:08] <bobstro> xushi: well, not as MUCH will break :)
[12:08] <xushi> well i found my first bug after a fresh install which crashed me out
[12:08] <bobstro> heinkel_111: you're not formatting the drive you current directory is on right?
[12:08] <A_A> whats the command to mount a floppy ?
[12:09] <_4strO> A_A: just try : sudo mount -a
[12:09] <heinkel_111> bobstro: i am trying to work from my "client" machine to reformat something on my "server" machine
[12:09] <bobstro> i don't have any entries for floppy in /etc/fstab
[12:09] <xushi> when you have dual monitors (internal, and pci), and you're using the pci one, then install nvidia glx drivers, it automatically sticks the busid for the first bus (which is the internal one), instead of the correct one (2nd one)
[12:09] <bobstro> heinkel_111: ok, but make sure you're not current in a directory (cwd) that's on the partition you need to format on the server, right?
[12:10] <heinkel_111> bobstro: the problem may be just that, but how do i ssh into the "server" without using my /home partition, then?
[12:10] <bobstro> heinkel_111: so you're trying for format partition home is on then?
[12:11] <heinkel_111> bobstro: Yes. Do i need to walk over and do the livecd trick? or can i do this remote?
[12:11] <_4strO> heinkel_111: think is better than nobody can format your system through ssh :p
[12:11] <A_A> mmk that worked
[12:11] <bobstro> heinkel_111: well, you could create a user with a $HOME that is NOT on that partition i suppose.
[12:11] <xushi> hmm, this will be a problem.. /var/www/ is owned by root. this will be a problem for me as a user to do some web development
[12:11] <A_A> now how do i install grub to the floppy
[12:12] <_4strO> A_A: i gave you the command before
[12:12] <atidem> hi
[12:12] <bobstro> heinkel_111: i'd just walk over and open a root cli session for root on the server, dismount /home and do it there.
[12:12] <_4strO> A_A: grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/
[12:13] <red8ull-> hi guys
[12:13] <red8ull-> quick question
[12:13] <_4strO> A_A: you probably have to put a sudo before
[12:13] <red8ull-> in wireless lan manager im trying to connect to my ap with WEP
[12:13] <heinkel_111> bobstro: could it work if I started a root shell remote?
[12:13] <red8ull-> however i dont know how to put in the hex
[12:13] <red8ull-> it never works, but in windows it does
[12:13] <A_A> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/floppy/
[12:13] <A_A> install_device not specified.
[12:13] <A_A> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[12:14] <bobstro> heinkel_111: if you allow root to login via ssh, it should work (after you dismount /home) but normally you don't want root to do that.
[12:14] <bobstro> heinkel_111: and you ARE sure you really want to zap /home, right?
[12:14] <heinkel_111> I don't want to zap it, only a resize
[12:14] <_4strO> A_A: sudo grub-install /dev/floppy/ ???
[12:14] <heinkel_111> bobstro  ^
[12:14] <bobstro> heinkel_111: ah, then i wouldn't reformat it!
[12:15] <_4strO> A_A: dont do my command
[12:15] <A_A> lucky it didnt copy lol
[12:15] <red8ull-> hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something?
[12:15] <bobstro> heinkel_111: you're supposed to be able to do that with gparted, but i can't say i've done it.
[12:15] <bobstro> heinkel_111: though i don't think i'd try *that* remotely
[12:15] <_4strO> A_A: just make a sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak before ;)
[12:16] <red8ull-> hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something please anyone help thanks
[12:16] <heinkel_111> bobstro: you are right about reformatting, it was rather poorly explained: I am going to 1) shrink /home 2) reformat the other partition on that disk :)
[12:16] <heinkel_111> bobstro: the /home is too large compared to the new one
[12:17] <bobstro> heinkel_111: cheat and go buy another disk!
[12:17] <A_A> sudo grub-install /dev/floppy/
[12:17] <A_A> /dev/floppy/: Not found or not a block device.
[12:17] <bobstro> heinkel_111: search around, there are a lot of articles on resizing. i've used partitionmagic frequently, but not the free tools (yet).
[12:18] <heinkel_111> bobstro: :-) buy new disk not an option, this is an old box that only holds 2 hard drives
[12:18] <bobstro> heinkel_111: plan b is to just copy /home somewhere, then repartition and reformat. now THAT i have done.
[12:18] <heinkel_111> thanks for helping
[12:18] <heinkel_111> bobstro it should be possible to resize
[12:18] <_4strO> A_A: cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy
[12:18] <red8ull-> hi in kubuntu wireless manager, how do i put in the hex of my network key? i put like AF7355EC18....etc without spaces in windows it works.. however in kubuntu it doesnt, is there another format or something please anyone help thanks
[12:18] <bobstro> heinkel_111: yes, but it is always risky. i'd make that backup in either case!
[12:19] <bobstro> heinkel_111: if you've got an old drive, buy an external usb enclosure for it. those are GREAT for this sort of task.
[12:19] <A_A> /etc/fstab | grep floppy
[12:19] <A_A> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:19] <A_A> aha
[12:19] <A_A> its in media
[12:19] <heinkel_111> bobstro: backup has been taken care of  :)
[12:19] <A_A> not /dev
[12:19] <bobstro> heinkel_111: ah, ok then. so IN THAT CASE, you could log in as root via ssh (if allowed) or create a user with $HOME outside of /home.
[12:20] <_4strO> A_A: sudo grub-install /dev/fd0
[12:20] <bobstro> heinkel_111: again, i'd just do it at console on the server. you'd hate for connection to drop halfway through.
[12:21] <A_A> ahhh
[12:21] <_4strO> A_A: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/fd0
[12:21] <A_A>    /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[12:21] <_4strO> perhaps :p
[12:21] <heinkel_111> bobstro: yeah i guess you are right, i'll put on slippers and head over
[12:21] <A_A> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/fd0
[12:21] <A_A> install_device not specified.
[12:22] <A_A> what is sudo ?
[12:22] <Jucato> !sudo
[12:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:22] <A_A> ah yes
[12:23] <A_A> ive never used to command b4
[12:23] <A_A> to = the
[12:25] <_4strO> A_A: sudo grub-install '(fd0)'
[12:26] <A_A> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[12:26] <A_A> grub> quit
[12:26] <A_A> soo close
[12:27] <A_A> could i have a defective floppy =\
[12:27] <_4strO> dont know :p
[12:27] <A_A> obviously ^_^
[12:27] <Alarm> hello, how is the application that shows the log files of apache, system logs, dmesg and so on called ?
[12:28] <A_A> well ti has been laying around for a few years =\
[12:28] <A_A> it*
[12:28] <_4strO> lol
[12:28] <Jucato> Alarm: ksystemlog ?
[12:28] <Alarm> found it :)
[12:28] <Alarm> Jucato,  u were faster hehe
[12:28] <A_A> dont suppose u could burn it to a cd ?
[12:28] <|ericsson|> Ah, resolution working again :)
[12:28] <Alarm> yes thats what i meant , i removed it by mistake, just noticed it
[12:28] <Jucato> :)
[12:28] <|ericsson|> Alarm: How are we feeling this morning? ;)
[12:28] <Alarm> oo good morning |ericsson|  . well the same
[12:28] <Lamington> Someone in here yesterday said to install libxine-extracodecs to get mp3 support for Amarok
[12:28] <Jucato> "we are the borg..."
[12:29] <Lamington> wrong
[12:29] <Alarm> still trying to figure out the mount thing
[12:29] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Had any nightmares last night?
[12:29] <Alarm> not really, just now trying to see any usb conflicts or something
[12:29] <|ericsson|> Jucato: :)
[12:29] <A_A> !super grub disk
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super grub disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <Alarm> what i noticed is that when i pmount it , it mounts it on /media/sda1 , and when i let the system to mount it , for some reason it always tries to mount it to /media/win5 , somehow it got stuck with that dir
[12:30] <eeos> hi everybody!
[12:30] <eeos> I have been able to get my bluetooth phone recognised.
[12:30] <|ericsson|> Alarm: you don't have an entry in /etc/fstab for it?
[12:30] <Lamington> Installing libxine-extracodecs results in the removal of Amarok... and now even after removing libxine-extracodecs I cannot install Amarok anymore without getting an error
[12:30] <Alarm> nop
[12:30] <eeos> I eed to send text to customer through laptop keyboard
[12:30] <eeos> is there an application for that?
[12:31] <don> my Amorak wont play DVD
[12:31] <Lamington> Amarok is a music player
[12:31] <|ericsson|> !medibunt | don
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibunt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <|ericsson|> !medibuntu | don
[12:31] <ubotu> don: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[12:31] <_4strO> don: for DVD kaffine ...
[12:31] <_4strO> kaffeine or vlc, mplayer ...
[12:32] <agn0stic> anyone know off the top of their head if it's possible to add a directory of songs to amarok through dcop?
[12:32] <Lamington> medibuntu is borked
[12:32] <don> sorry wrong player
[12:32] <Lamington> screwed up my system
[12:32] <don> that works
[12:32] <_4strO> ;)
[12:32] <|ericsson|> Alarm: /dev/sda1 /media/win5 ntfs rw,umask=000 0 0/sbin/udevstart, did you try that yesterday?
[12:32] <Alarm> ehmm, one more please
[12:32] <Alarm> thats an entry in the fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/win5 ntfs rw,umask=000 0 0/sbin/udevstart  ?
[12:33] <don> Kaffeine wont play DVD
[12:33] <|ericsson|> Alarm: you could add it there, but again the umask is probably what's causing the problems..
[12:34] <Jucato> !dvd
[12:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:34] <Jucato> don: ^^^^
[12:34] <_4strO> actally it's another package for DVD no ?
[12:34] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  i guess kde is trying to mount the device, it does somehow and then udev cant thats why the messages that it is occupied , or the opposide
[12:34] <don> Ogle works fine I guess I dont need Kaffeine
[12:35] <_4strO> ha no it hte right package
[12:35] <nuxil> hi all.. it there a way to do a netinstall of feisty ?
[12:35] <GoodHabit> hello! I'm sorry, probably it os stupid question. I am nebie linux user. How i can set up media (video, music) on kubuntu?
[12:36] <Alarm> now that someone mentioned about kaffeine.
[12:36] <_4strO> !codecs | GoodHabit
[12:36] <don> I could not find one I burned image
[12:36] <Alarm> when i try to open a video file, no matter which one, it doesnt start at all, and the application crashes, i did run it from console and got this:
[12:36] <ubotu> GoodHabit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:36] <Alarm> QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout . kaffeine: WARNING: KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one...
[12:36] <Alarm> Communication problem with kaffeine, it probably crashed.
[12:36] <Alarm> i uninstalled it and purge the config files as also removed the kaffeine folder in my home dir, but didnt help much
[12:37] <Alarm> yesterday i didnt have any problem actually as i could play files
[12:37] <don> there are many different players in add and remove 1 will work
[12:37] <Alarm> mplayer and vlc can play those files
[12:38] <nuxil> my dvd drive is not working correctly,, and i cant install feisty with a dvd|cd. can i do a netinstall with a floppy or a boot cd?
[12:38] <nuxil> i know its posseble with debian..
[12:39] <|ericsson|> Alarm: are you using DVB?
[12:39] <Jucato> !netinstall
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:39] <Lamington> I put a bunch of music on a dvd and now i cant copy files off it... it said i didnt have permission... Im noob so I dont know how to do 'chown' to change the permissions, could someone help ?
[12:39] <Jucato> nuxil: check those links? ^^^
[12:40] <nuxil> thanks Jucato
[12:40] <Alarm> no
[12:40] <Dragon> hey can any1 tell me how to get mp3 support installed on amarok ? every time it comes up with the "amarok cannot play mp3s do you want to install mp3 support" popup it crashes
[12:40] <_4strO> !codecs | Dragon
[12:40] <ubotu> Dragon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:41] <|ericsson|> Alarm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/66620
[12:41] <xushi> fs
[12:41] <xushi> kubuntu keeps randomly freezing on me
[12:41] <xushi> just happened with me when i tried to start Kate
[12:41] <Alarm> let me check
[12:41] <Alarm> its kind of weird as since yesterday i didnt have any problem with it
[12:42] <Alarm> slowly problems appear like the system time , mount , now kaffeine
[12:42] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Don't know if that would apply to you since it's more dvb related and dvd-playback
[12:42] <|ericsson|> Alarm: tomorrow you will have windows installed without even knowing about it..
[12:42] <Alarm> no it doesnt crash on dvd, it crashes on every type of video files
[12:43] <Alarm> u think so ? :)
[12:43] <|ericsson|> Alarm: problems slowly creeping in :)
[12:44] <xushi> is there a root password? it's irritating typing sudo eery second
[12:44] <Alarm> hehe
[12:44] <Alarm> its Jucato  fault anyway :)
[12:44] <fdoving> !rootsudo | xushi
[12:44] <ubotu> xushi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:44] <Jucato> O.o
[12:45] <|ericsson|> lol :)
[12:45] <eeos> is there any application to manage your mobile phone from the laptop using bluetooth (sending sms and so on)?
[12:46] <bobstro> what's the article keyword for getting codecs etc. installed? i though it was "mediabuntu" but that's not working.
[12:46] <fdoving> bobstro, medibuntu?
[12:47] <bobstro> ah that must be it. thanks.
[12:47] <|ericsson|> !medibuntu | bobstro
[12:47] <ubotu> bobstro: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[12:48] <|ericsson|> Anyone tried the "turoprint" drivers for multi-purpose printers?
[12:48] <|ericsson|> "turoprint" -> "turboprint" ;)
[12:49] <don> type commands in console or during boot?
[12:50] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  i got an idea man
[12:50] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Sell the USB drive to stoft? :)
[12:51] <fdoving> don: come again? what do you want to do?
[12:51] <Alarm> no
[12:51] <Alarm> to try to see whats happening on another window manager
[12:52] <don> I want to learn how to command in console I dont know how
[12:52] <|ericsson|> Alarm: It doesn't really seem logical that kde would grab the drive, but who knows?
[12:52] <fdoving> !cli | don
[12:52] <ubotu> don: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:52] <Alarm> i will be right back
[12:52] <fdoving> |ericsson|: grab what device?
[12:53] <don> is that like dos command prompt?
[12:53] <|ericsson|> fdoving: Alarm has problems with an external USB drive when he's trying to mount it..
[12:53] <fdoving> don: similar, but more powerful.
[12:53] <fdoving> +l
[12:53] <fdoving> |ericsson|: ok.
[12:53] <fdoving> he left.
[12:53] <don> Mine says shell console that the one?
[12:54] <fdoving> don: yes.
[12:54] <_Neil> Anyone know how to make gpg work through a proxy? Trying to get my key onto keyserver.ubuntu.com
[12:54] <don> I have tried some commands but no results yet
[12:54] <agn0stic> don: once you get a little comfortable with the shell, check out http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:54] <agn0stic> don: try typing ls then enter
[12:55] <agn0stic> that's a directory listing
[12:55] <don> ok I want to learn this os
[12:55] <fdoving> _Neil: gpg, as in the command on the commandline?
[12:55] <agn0stic> it takes some time, but it's worth it - the possibilities for what you can do are pretty much endless
[12:56] <_Neil> fdoving: the command , as in gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key -mykey-
[12:56] <_Neil> it hangs.. im behind a web proxy
[12:56] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  a reboot did fix also kaffeine ...
[12:56] <don> Thanks I got a response
[12:56] <|ericsson|> heh, what to do if lsusb shows 04a9:1709 but I need xxx:yyy ? ;)
[12:57] <|ericsson|> Alarm: starting to look like M$ :)
[12:57] <agn0stic> don: also, if you know a command, but dont know how to use it type "man commandname" without the quotes
[12:57] <Alarm> hehhehe
[12:57] <Alarm> and u know whos fault it is :)
[12:57] <don> ok
[12:57] <fdoving> _Neil: ok. you need to set the http_proxy variable. like 'http_proxy=http://192.168.0.10:3128 gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key -mykey..'
[12:57] <|ericsson|> Alarm: know :)
[12:58] <agn0stic> don: if you know what you want to do, and don't know what command to use, type "apropos keyword" where keyword is a word related to what you want to do
[12:58] <Alarm> i like the fact that i use debian and hang in kubuntu :)
[12:58] <roland_> how can i change the behaviour of textbox-entering? i want that the content of a textbox (for example the address-textbox in firefox) is selected when clicking in the textbox
[12:58] <_Neil> fdoving: brilliant, thanks
[12:58] <fdoving> Alarm: it's much the same.
[12:59] <don> great!
[12:59] <A_A> how do i swap grub for lilo ?
[12:59] <Alarm> fdoving,  no, i am a bit strange, yesterday i was searching for support for mou usb drive also in fedora channel :)
[12:59] <fdoving> A_A: remove grub, install lil? - basically just install lilo, it will overwrite grub.
[12:59] <A_A> k
[12:59] <Alarm> when they told me about rpm , i realised i was in the wrong channel :)
[12:59] <Jucato> !lilo
[12:59] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[01:00] <Alarm> Lilo was great
[01:00] <don> everyone should have at least 1 kubuntu!
[01:00] <agn0stic> grub has a much cleaner configuration, imo
[01:00] <roland_> how can i change the behaviour of textbox-entering? i want that the content of a textbox (for example the address-textbox in firefox) is selected when clicking in the textbox
[01:00] <Alarm> a bit more easy to configure than grub
[01:00] <fdoving> A_A: i recommend having a look at /etc/kernel-img.conf if you switch to lilo. you don't want the postinst_hook and the postrm_hooks with grub-things anymore.
[01:01] <xushi> hmm, i can't seem to find mod-rewrite for apache2 in adept
[01:02] <RytmenPinnen> how do I know what version that comes with the adept installer?
[01:02] <epimeth> okay... first of all.. YES! beryl working poifectly.... I think I'm in heaven...
[01:02] <epimeth> sencondly, do I *have* to close adept updater if I don't want it appearing on my desktop and panel?
[01:02] <fdoving> xushi: it's included. it's in the apache2.2-common package.
[01:03] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: what version of any program?
[01:03] <RytmenPinnen> yes
[01:03] <RytmenPinnen> like ardour
[01:04] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: click on the blue arrow '>' in front of the package name. it will expand and give you more information about the package.
[01:04] <RytmenPinnen> what blue arrow? :D
[01:04] <A_A> fdoving: im a linux noob ive nfi what u just said =\
[01:04] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: inside Adept Manager, the blue arrow infront of the packeg names in the search results.
[01:04] <RytmenPinnen> is that in the adept manager? cause i was in the remove/add programs
[01:05] <fdoving> A_A: ok, why do you want lilo? - grub is the better one.
[01:05] <RytmenPinnen> aah, nice thanks..
[01:05] <A_A> grub give me an error 17 when i add another hdd
[01:05] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: you're welcome :)
[01:05] <A_A> i read forums
[01:05] <A_A> and getting lilo was the easiest way to fix
[01:06] <CarinArr> what's error 17
[01:06] <CarinArr> i had problems with error 16 before
[01:06] <roland_> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[01:06] <A_A> um
[01:06] <CarinArr> which has magically gone after i wiped vista
[01:06] <CarinArr> heh
[01:06] <fdoving> roland_: excuse me?
[01:07] <A_A> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[01:07] <A_A> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[01:07] <roland_> 111111111111111111111111111
[01:07] <|ericsson|> !coc | roland_:
[01:07] <fdoving> roland_: please stop.
[01:07] <ubotu> roland_:: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:07] <heinkel_112> !coc > |ericsson|
[01:07] <daloli> hi!
[01:08] <heinkel_112> that is a proper redirect, |ericsson|
[01:08] <CarinArr> depends what he wanted to do
[01:08] <fdoving> A_A: did you try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?
[01:08] <A_A> i installed kubuntu after windows
[01:08] <|ericsson|> heinkel_112: priv v.s public :)
[01:08] <daloli> someone can tell me what is the name of the i386 kernel pakage in feisty
[01:09] <daloli> i must install it by terminal
[01:09] <fdoving> A_A: i'm aware of that, but that proccedure does not hurt to do, it might aswell fix your current problem.
[01:09] <daloli> x freezes
[01:09] <A_A> grub doesnt recognise one of me HDD's filesystems
[01:10] <daloli> A_A
[01:10] <daloli> which partitio is it?
[01:10] <fdoving> daloli: linux-image-generic works.
[01:10] <A_A> =\
[01:10] <daloli> not for me
[01:10] <CarinArr> a_a rewriting my grub temporarily fixed my error 16 before
[01:10] <A_A> idk
[01:10] <daloli> :?
[01:10] <fdoving> daloli: ok. try linux-image-386 then.
[01:10] <_Neil> Can I decrypt emails using thunderbird?
[01:10] <A_A> i cant boot up with the HDD plugged in
[01:10] <daloli> did you edit fstab A_A?
[01:11] <A_A> whats fstab :(
[01:11] <daloli> or is an usb external drive
[01:11] <A_A> no its sata
[01:11] <jesusiyo> alguien que me pueda resolver unas dudas sobre kubuntu=?
[01:11] <A_A> the usb one is working fine
[01:11] <daloli> fstab is where you must declare which partitions you have
[01:11] <_4strO> !fstab A_A
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fstab a_a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <CarinArr> !bz
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <_4strO> !fstab | A_A
[01:11] <ubotu> A_A: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:12] <CarinArr> !pt > jesusiyo
[01:13] <xushi> for osme reason i'm getting this error trying to get vhosts to work in apache in kubuntu, http://rafb.net/p/JNE7MW16.html
[01:14] <A_A> this HDD im trying to plug in is for windows, linux wont be able to read it
[01:15] <A_A> until i backup data and format it
[01:15] <ubuntu> dingding
[01:15] <strabes> A_A: it's probably ntfs
[01:15] <A_A> yeh
[01:16] <A_A> but i have 2 other ntfs HDD's and they cause no troubles =\
[01:16] <ubuntu> ok it is working, just heinkel112 on different machine trying to set up feisty install
[01:16] <ubuntu> do i need gparted to shrink a reiserfs partition_
[01:17] <ubuntu> that should be a question mark lol
[01:18] <BlOOd___> alguien que me ayude=?
[01:19] <dakoki> BlOOd___
[01:19] <dakoki> que te pasa?
[01:19] <BlOOd___> necesito algo de ayuda
[01:19] <BlOOd___> para algunos temas
[01:19] <dakoki> va
[01:19] <dakoki> cuenta
[01:19] <Aelwyn> hola
[01:19] <_4strO> !es
[01:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:19] <BlOOd___> mira por ejemplo montar imagenes
[01:20] <dakoki> DE CD
[01:20] <BlOOd___> si
[01:20] <dakoki> es con mount
[01:20] <dakoki> sudo mount direccion de la imagen
[01:20] <BlOOd___> si xro no se que orden dar
[01:20] <A_A> =\
[01:21] <A_A> my fstab hardly look slike the example
[01:21] <BlOOd___> mira por ejemplo imagina que esta en /home/usuario/desktop ay esta la imagen
[01:21] <BlOOd___> que orden doy=?
[01:21] <dakoki> ejemplo sudo mount /home/caca/imagencd.iso
[01:22] <BlOOd___> imagencd que es el nombre ?
[01:22] <dakoki> si es para un juego hay programas que te lo montan como el cedega
[01:22] <BlOOd___> si es para juegos
[01:22] <BlOOd___> como la monto en cedega
[01:22] <BlOOd___> ?
[01:22] <dakoki> tienes cedega?
[01:22] <gaboo> hi
[01:22] <A_A> oo
[01:22] <BlOOd___> si lo tengo aqui
[01:22] <A_A> i understand one word of that convo
[01:23] <gaboo> Do you know when kubuntu.org will be back online ?
[01:23] <heinkel_112> !es | BlOOd___ dakoki
[01:23] <ubotu> BlOOd___ dakoki: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:23] <dakoki> pues por ahi creo que viene una opcion de instalar desde imagen de cd
[01:23] <A_A> it will be back online when it decides to
[01:23] <dakoki> ok
[01:23] <BlOOd___> tu como instalaas los juegos?
[01:23] <xushi> argh... my machine INSISTS on taking dhcp, even if i manually edit it in knetworkmanager
[01:24] <xushi> i click save, restart, and its back to the dhcp ip
[01:24] <gaboo> thanks A_A. If you don't know when, then just don't answer ...
[01:25] <franky> good mornig!!!
[01:25] <nuxil> hi all.. whats the name of the pak for the nvidia driver ?
[01:26] <|ericsson|> nuxil: apt-cache search nvidia
[01:26] <franky> i have a problem...i've installed beryl but i don't know the buttons to be pushed to make appear the cube.pls help me :-)
[01:26] <eeos> update to 704 here
[01:26] <eeos> what is the kubuntu logo in the column next to the package name in adept?
[01:27] <eeos> no documentation with adept afaik, I have been searching the repository
[01:28] <_4strO> franky: just look in beryl-manager
[01:29] <_4strO> franky: think it s ctrl-alt + button 1
[01:29] <franky> tnx
[01:29] <RytmenPinnen> is there alot of risk to screw up the system if I install beryl?
[01:30] <dakoki> someone can tell me what is the name of the i386 kernel pakage in feisty generic frezes a lot and i can't start the pakage manager i must work in safe mode
[01:30] <_4strO> RytmenPinnen: nop
[01:30] <RytmenPinnen> othere words, is it alot of hassle?
[01:30] <fdoving> eeos: the kubuntu logo means it's supported by kubuntu, ie. in the main repository. the packages without are mainly community supported.
[01:30] <eeos> fdoving: thanks!
[01:30] <RytmenPinnen> k, so I'll just get it with the adept manager or the add remove programs
[01:30] <fdoving> dakoki: linux-image-386
[01:31] <_4strO> RytmenPinnen: adept is better
[01:31] <_4strO> or in a console with sudo apt-get install
[01:31] <dakoki> so i must type sudo aptitude linux-image-386 and it will work?
[01:31] <RytmenPinnen> k
[01:31] <fdoving> dakoki: yep.
[01:31] <makki>  hi rpedro
[01:32] <dakoki> i must reinstal everything and i want to be shuer tis sis correct
[01:32] <dakoki> thanks
[01:33] <makki> are you here?
[01:33] <makki> are you here rpedro?
[01:34] <Hobbsee> makki: use /whois rpedro
[01:34] <Hobbsee> [21:34]  [Whois]  rpedro has been idle for 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 26 seconds.
[01:35] <makki> ooops
[01:35] <jujimufu> lol
[01:35] <rpedro> makki: I'm here
[01:36] <makki> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii rpedro
[01:36] <RytmenPinnen> right, now, how di I activate it? I got the beryl manager open
[01:36] <rpedro> hello :)
[01:36] <_4strO> RytmenPinnen: right click on the rubis in systray
[01:36] <_4strO> RytmenPinnen: select windows manager
[01:36] <makki> can we chat priv
[01:37] <amigrave> is it possible to add a keyboard shortcut to a bash script without adding the script to the menu ?
[01:37] <|ericsson|> heh, you GUI people, how do I open a file manager as root?
[01:37] <RytmenPinnen> I cant see that
[01:37] <RytmenPinnen> nothing in the tray
[01:38] <RytmenPinnen> ah I think i know why
[01:38] <_4strO> RytmenPinnen: "beryl-manager &"  in a console (after having closed beryl-manager)
[01:38] <fdoving> amigrave: yes, kmenu -> system settings -> accesibility -> input handling.
[01:38] <xushi> can anyone please help me?
[01:38] <xushi> this is work related
[01:38] <RytmenPinnen> I dont have the manager only the settings manager
[01:38] <xushi> knetwork manager keeps putting my dhcp address...
[01:39] <xushi> it wont accept a static address i put, even if i tell it manually
[01:39] <xushi> it saves, restarts, then just sets it back to the dhcp address
[01:40] <fdoving> xushi: knetworkmanager does not handle static addresses. it's dhcp only. you should add the network device to /etc/network/interfaces and then restart dbus and networkmanager, that way networkmanager should not touch your static configured device at all.
[01:41] <rpedro> makki: /join #makki
[01:41] <xushi> fdoving: how can i add a domain in there too ?
[01:43] <fdoving> xushi: the domain and nameservers goes in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:46] <xushi_> sorry i got disconnected
[01:46] <xushi_> how would i set myself to the domain in kubuntu ?
[01:46] <xushi_> say, domain xushi.company.local
[01:46] <xushi_> err, domain company.local *
[01:46] <xushi_> windows domain controller & dns
[01:47] <mat1980> ericson, run command kdesu konqueror
[01:54] <xushi_> anyone ?
[01:55] <amigrave> fdoving: yeah ! Thanks !
[01:55] <heinkel_112> I do love rsync :)
[01:56] <xushi_> how do i add a domainname ?
[02:00] <xushi_> installing NIS seems to be stuck and fails on * binding to YP server...
[02:03] <xushi> i'm supposed t be able to ping xushi.company.local, and it should hit the company dns and get my ip address.. but this isn't working here
[02:03] <xushi> please anyone i needhelp
[02:03] <srastin> I have a frozen QEMU window, everything else is fine.  How do I terminate it?
[02:04] <MuJ> press ctrl-alt-esc and click on the window
[02:04] <srastin> thx
[02:05] <stoft> MuJ: nice trick, didn't know that one. :)
[02:11] <viktor> hi, i'm trying to create an ext3 partiotion in i qtparted, but i can only choose from ext2 and a couple of FAT. is there a package i have to install?
[02:12] <jussi01> viktor: are you sure that those are the options not the partitions you already have?
[02:12] <paolo> i don't think. what version of qparted?
[02:13] <heinkel_112> viktor: paolo: this may depend on other programs. qtparted is just a front-end
[02:14] <viktor> jussi01: i right-click on some free space, called dsa-1, and then i get a create partition dialog, and under partition Type, there s no ext3, just ext3 and some other types
[02:14] <jussi01> viktor: im not sure then...
[02:14] <viktor> paolo: 0.4.5-cvs (the one in feisty)
[02:15] <viktor> heinkel_112: qtparted had no extra dependencies while installing, di you know if there is a package i should install?
[02:16] <viktor> jussi01: ok, thanks anyway
[02:16] <heinkel_112> viktor: which version of parted do you have installed?
[02:18] <Briareos1> hi guys; i try to unpack a lot of zips in one hit with ark (right mouse btn in konq and click "unpack here") but only some 4-10 (randomly) are really unpacked ... any ideas?
[02:18] <heinkel_112> or, viktor: easy workaround is "sudo apt-get gparted"
[02:18] <heinkel_112> gparted is better than qtparted
[02:18] <epimeth> is there a way to diff all files in a directory?
[02:18] <Erf> How come, that when I install Kubuntu choosing Danish language, the desktop I boot into after the install is not localised?
[02:19] <viktor> heinkel_112: parted 1.1.7-3ubuntu4
[02:19] <viktor> heinkel_112: yeah, i'll try gparted
[02:19] <heinkel_112> viktor: your parted is not up to date
[02:20] <heinkel_112> viktor : recommends: parted (>= 1.6.6)
[02:20] <paolo> erf: you should go on adept, search for "danish" and install the necessary packages
[02:20] <heinkel_112> viktor: that ^ was from apt-cache show qtparted
[02:21] <viktor> hm, so is that in universe then?
[02:21] <Erf> paolo: I'll try that, thank you. Do you happen to know approximately what these packages are called?
[02:21] <heinkel_112> erhm i don't know let me look around a little
[02:21] <viktor> heinkel_112: actually what i really would like to do is to merge the empty space with my kubuntu-partition. is that possible from within kubuntu?
[02:22] <heinkel_112> viktor: if the empty space comes after the kubuntu-partition, yes
[02:22] <paolo> uhmm... wait
[02:22] <heinkel_112> viktor: if the empty space is _before_ the kubuntu partition, no
[02:23] <heinkel_112> viktor: then you will have to do a lot of rearrangement and that is only possible if you have extra space
[02:23] <nirmal> i would like to know ubuntu works well with senao sub362 ext
[02:23] <xushi> i keep getting this for kinit (kerberos) : kinit(v5): Improper format of Kerberos configuration file while initializing Kerberos 5 library
[02:23] <heinkel_112> viktor: abouFilename: pool/main/p/parted/parted_1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2_i386.debt parted
[02:24] <heinkel_112> about parted ^
[02:24] <heinkel_112> i guess that means it is in the main ubuntu repository
[02:24] <Erf> paolo: gotta go, thanks for your help. :)
[02:24] <paolo> Erf: language-pack-dk
[02:25] <Dakoki> hi!
[02:26] <viktor> oh, heinkel_11, i'm so sorry, i must have looked at the wrong package or something, my version is 1.7.1-3ubuntu4
[02:26] <Dakoki> my konqueror do not let me enter into automatix web so i need to the url for feisty to use wget
[02:27] <viktor> that seems more up to date
[02:27] <Dakoki> someone can helpme
[02:27] <Dakoki> please
[02:28] <jussi01> !automatix | Dakoki
[02:28] <ubotu> Dakoki: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:29] <Dakoki> ok
[02:29] <viktor> if i want to claim the unused space after my ubuntu-partition, do i not have to unmount the ubuntu-part? if so, can i unmount the a partition i'm currently running on (as you can see here i'm quite new to linux, and partitioning in general)
[02:30] <jussi01> viktor: you need to get the live cd and do it from there - and so have the partition unmounted
[02:30] <viktor> jussi01: ok, thanks, and thanks heinkel_112 for your help too
[02:31] <heinkel_112> viktor: go with gparted for a smoother ride
[02:31] <viktor> heinkel_112: will do, guess i'll use the ubuntu-livecd then
[02:32] <heinkel_112> viktor: i just did the same with kubuntu live cd
[02:32] <heinkel_112> you can just install gparted from the livecd using sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:33] <heinkel_112> oops, no - i had the live DVD when i think of it
[02:33] <meduxa> hi, I have a problem related with Launchpad, who do I have to talk to?
[02:33] <meduxa> or email to?
[02:33] <viktor> heinkel_112: ok, i'll try them both i guess ;)
[02:34] <nirmal> just ask here and wait
[02:34] <RytmenPinnen> Where is the file managment view profile located?
[02:34] <abattoir> meduxa: #launchpad maybe? I don't know if it's for support though
[02:34] <RytmenPinnen> I want to set detailed list view as default
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[02:35] <abattoir> RytmenPinnen: if you're using edgy/feisty you should see the icon view button... you can click on that to change the current view
[02:35] <meduxa> I'll try on irc channel, thanks
[02:36] <RytmenPinnen> I tried to click on it but nothing happens
[02:36] <abattoir> RytmenPinnen: click and hold for a second
[02:36] <RytmenPinnen> ah
[02:36] <abattoir> RytmenPinnen: or move your cursor a bit
[02:36] <RytmenPinnen> but it still opens in icon view when I open a new window
[02:37] <RytmenPinnen> no way to get around that?
[02:37] <aziz> is there a way how I can increase the maximum volume of my soundcard?
[02:37] <abattoir> RytmenPinnen: not sure if saving the view profile would help... let me search
[02:38] <RytmenPinnen> aaah, right now i got, I have to save the filemanagment
[02:38] <RytmenPinnen> abattoir:  yes it does :)
[02:38] <abattoir> RytmenPinnen: great :)
[02:38] <RytmenPinnen> yup :)
[02:39] <aavictor2> Please, Joined #Rescate-Pokemon
[02:39] <Erunno> Does anyone know if Kaffeine supports the smb kio-slave ?
[02:41] <rigoberto> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:42] <abattoir> meduxa: you might want to remove that away message, it annoys a lot of people... especially the ops :)
[02:43] <rigoberto> ay algue aqui?
[02:43] <LjL> !es | rigoberto
[02:43] <ubotu> rigoberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:44] <abattoir> LjL: sorry to ask? isn't it a bit harsh to immediately ban someone for something like this? or was meduxa  a repeat offender?
[02:45] <LjL> abattoir: except that wasn't the user i banned
[02:45] <Hobbsee> abattoir: it wasnt meduxa
[02:45] <LjL> !away > meduxa    (meduxa, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:46] <heinkel_112> !away
[02:46] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:46] <LjL> !no away is <sed> /$/ and !nickspam/
[02:46] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[02:46] <abattoir> LjL: oh sorry, my mistake, similar IP addresses, i think i should head to bed now instead ;)
[02:46] <LjL> abattoir: :-)
[02:47] <BlOOd___> alguien que sepa instalar temas en kubuntu?
[02:47] <heinkel_112> !es > BlOOd___
[02:48] <BlOOd___> heinkel tu sabes?
[02:48] <heinkel_112> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:48] <BlOOd___> pue exame una mano jeje
[02:48] <heinkel_112> i know how but cannot explain in spansih
[02:48] <xushi> help! i get this error whenever i type sudo anything, sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication information cannot be recovered
[02:49] <BlOOd___> tell me I try understand you
[02:51] <heinkel_112> just go to kde-look.org
[02:52] <heinkel_112> find new themes, and follow the install instructions
[02:52] <BlOOd___> yes I downloaded a theme
[02:52] <heinkel_112> a ppopular one?
[02:52] <heinkel_112> some of them are old and some very buggy
[02:52] <heinkel_112> popular is a good thing, often means less bugs
[02:53] <BlOOd___> yes but the extension of the archive was .tar.bz2 and I don't know how install it
[02:54] <HymnToLife> BlOOd___, it's more likely source code, extract it with    tar xjvf filename.tar.bz2
[02:54] <HymnToLife> and follow the README
[02:54] <mattia> ciao
[02:55] <korobase> Hi,all.how to refresh the font cache?
[02:57] <korobase> Hi,all.how to refresh the font cache?
[02:57] <fdoving> korobase: in konsole, 'fc-cache -f'
[03:03] <wezlo> hey all, I'm having a problem with a unichrome video (km400) and feisty - X.org won't load, and top shows "events" using 97% of my cpu
[03:03] <Aaronfromchina> hello. everyone :)
[03:03] <wezlo> it loads fine using the vesa driver, but then I don't get 3d acceleration
[03:07] <Aaronfromchina> Are you guys in holiday (1st May)?
[03:08] <Blue_Tiger> hi everyone
[03:13] <CVirus> Aaronfromchina: it's holiday here today
[03:14] <Aaronfromchina> CVirus: That's cool. Are you from China as well? We've got 7 days holiday here. :)
[03:15] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:15] <jjj> here in the philippines most of the establishments choose to open their business even if it is May 1...
[03:15] <jjj> life is hard to earn here in the Philippines...everyone needs to work...
[03:15] <Aaronfromchina> jjj: it's a kind of lucky day, isn't it?
[03:15] <CVirus> Aaronfromchina: lucky you
[03:16] <jussi01> !offtopic
[03:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:16] <BluesKaj> May 1st is jusy another beginning of the month business etc day in Canada.
[03:16] <jjj> some group of people arranged a rally to voice their cries about poverty...
[03:17] <Aaronfromchina> Chinese government encourgre people to spend, travel... to pull the domestic economy. So we've got 7 days holiday three times a year. Spring Festivel, 1st of May, and National days. :)
[03:17] <joe__> whats up
[03:17] <jjj> Are your Government spending lots of money in licensing softwares and OS?
[03:18] <LjL> Aaronfromchina, the !offtopic was directed at you i hink
[03:18] <Aaronfromchina> Sorry about that, it's out of topic.
[03:18] <BluesKaj> speaking of poverty .. I'm deprived of digital ouput on my ati ixp soundcard ...the internal pcm works fine ...just no output to the digital coax connection.
[03:18] <jjj> In the Philippines, I think upto 87% of PCs are Microsoft based...
[03:19] <aro> Addendum: pirated Microsoft based
[03:19] <jjj> I hope the world embraced the open source spirit...
[03:19] <Aaronfromchina> exactly. :)
[03:19] <Aaronfromchina> aro: excatly. :)
[03:19] <ExIG> hey - desperate question, i use ubuntu and need to configure a KDE global proxy any ideas?
[03:20] <jjj> aro: Addendum: pirated Microsoft based...YAH...most of the establishments here are using pirated cracked version of everything...
[03:20] <Aaronfromchina> Hopefully, Kubutnu based in the futurel )
[03:20] <BluesKaj> in edgy I had the digital out hooked to my audio receiver DAC for sound in our TV/HT room...now , nothing ! :(
[03:20] <jjj> yes yes yes...kubuntu based...thats the spirit...
[03:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a tool to check NTFS or FAT partitions for errors?
[03:21] <Aaronfromchina> dettoaltrimenti_: In window, chkdsk can check errors. :) don't know how to do it in Kubuntu.
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> fsck
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> dosfsck
[03:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> ah sweet, thanks
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno how it works for ntfs, but it does vfat just fine
[03:22] <sdf> hi
[03:22] <sdf> i install clamav and don tfind it
[03:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> im on a pretty old computer, it's xp but it may be FAT
[03:23] <sdf> i didn tfind it in application
[03:23] <Aaronfromchina> ExIG: systemsettings
[03:23] <stdin> sdf: why did you install it?
[03:23] <sdf> for security
[03:23] <sdf> install it inubuntu
[03:23] <sdf> ubuntu
[03:23] <stdin> sdf: ubuntu doesn't need a virus scanner
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> you *are* aware that linux isn't the virus-ridden wasteland that windows is, where there's a trojan lurking around every corner...  right?
[03:24] <sdf> stdin really??
[03:24] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh yeah really sdf
[03:24] <dettoaltrimenti_> no viruses, no adware
[03:24] <sdf> stdin why
[03:24] <Filthpig> I'm trying to install wXP with kvm, but according to the howto I have to use sudo modprobe kvm-amd (since I have an amd processor), and that gives FATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/kvm/kvm-amd.ko): Operation not supported
[03:24] <Filthpig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM this is the howto
[03:24] <stdin> sdf: clamav is a scanner to find windows viruses (so you can protect the windows PCs on your network)
[03:24] <ExIG> Aaronfromchina: systemsettings under gnome?
[03:24] <sdf> how can i remove it from terminal?
[03:25] <sdf> from*
[03:25] <stdin> sdf: "sudo apt-get remove clamav*"
[03:25] <Aaronfromchina> ExIG: If you 've got KDE package installed, you may type systemsettings in terminal. Not sure if it helps.
[03:26] <jjj> sdf, linux and opther *nix OS are relatively malware free because most of the malwares are created to target and work on Microsoft based computers...
[03:27] <sdf> jjj ubuntu don t have any viruses why??
[03:27] <stdin> and linux is more secure, even if you has a virus, it couldn't do much harm
[03:27] <stdin> !virus
[03:27] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:27] <sdf> don tany one make any virus for attacking unix
[03:28] <jjj> autorun in ubuntu/kubuntu is also not that harmful...actually disabled...
[03:28] <UKESN|Javax> I imagine they do sdf, but not for attacking regular users.
[03:28] <stdin> sdf: there is no point, it couldn't do much
[03:28] <jjj> programs are also prohibited to run if it is not root or have no proper permission...
[03:28] <stdin> sdf: it would need to be installed and run by root to damage anything
[03:28] <sdf> any thanks for all
[03:29] <fdoving> Filthpig: does your processor support virtualization? - http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/FAQ#head-a78f5f083749cb9c2e57d7d4efaf2ecf25b9db60
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> would require social engineering, so i expect it could become a bit of a problem as linux becomes mroe and more mainstream
[03:29] <jjj> the only thing that a linux user installing antivirus in its PC is to save and clean flashdisk and local hardware previously infested with malware...
[03:30] <Filthpig> fdoving: I'm getting a little help over at #kvm
[03:30] <jjj> "would require social engineering, so i expect it could become a bit of a problem as linux becomes mroe and more mainstream" as said by Daisuke_Ido...when a shell script is clicked, a msgbox will ask you to allow or deny it...this is something that Microsoft didn't do...
[03:30] <Filthpig> but no, my cpu does not support virtualization
[03:31] <fdoving> Filthpig: good, then listen to them :)
[03:32] <eas_> helo people
[03:32] <jjj> I suggest Avira antivirus for both Windows and linux...if you linux users wanted to install...
[03:32] <jjj> www.free-av.com
[03:32] <eas_> i have just setup my pc with UBUNTU
[03:33] <eas_> and i need help ...how can i run (.avi .wmv pla pla) it says to me one error ...the error is about codecs
[03:33] <stdin> !codecs
[03:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:33] <eas_> !codecs
[03:34] <stdin> eas_: read the message from ubotu
[03:34] <joe2369> The Feisty upgrade tool hosed one of my systems.  I think it was because I did an alternate install onto RAID+LVM2.  In any case, now I can't even get at the old data from another system.  The upgrader seems to have corrupted the LVM2 partition somehow.
[03:34] <jjj> gstreamer-ffmpeg just search it in google or ubuntu packages...it will play anything...mp3, wma, avi, mpg, mov, divx, sorenson, almost unbeleivable...
[03:35] <stdin> only for gstreamer apps tho
[03:35] <eas_> can i upgrade my 6.06 ubuntu version to 7?
[03:35] <joe2369> As it stands now, I'm thinking the answer is either "don't use RAID+LVM2" or else "don't use Ubuntu"
[03:35] <stdin> !upgrade
[03:35] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[03:35] <jthomas> eas_: i wouldn't
[03:35] <nuxil> !nvidia
[03:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <jjj> yup yup but I think there is a ffmpeg for xine...
[03:36] <stdin> eas_: you'll need to go to 6.10 first, then 7.04
[03:36] <jjj> anyone here who can verify that there is an ffmpeg module for xine? what package name is that?
[03:36] <jthomas> eas_: a clean 6.06 should be upgraded to 6.10 and then to 7.04, but that first upgrade is known to have issues with any sort of 'strange' install, and the second upgrade seems to have its own issues as well
[03:36] <jjj> anyone here who can verify that there is an ffmpeg module for xine? what package name is that?
[03:36] <stdin> jjj: libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:37] <jjj> if I install libxine1-ffmpeg will that be automatically working for kaffeine?
[03:37] <jthomas> eas_: if you've used Automatix at all, then for sure i would not upgrade.  either keep it as is, or download a new disk and reinstall.  you do have a seperate /home partition, right?
[03:37] <jthomas> jjj: it should; it did for me
[03:38] <eas_> the best way is to download the last version and make upgrade from cd?
[03:38] <nuxil> i am having problems setting up my nvidia card.. i got a gf8800.. should i use the nvidia-glx-new ?
[03:38] <jjj> ok thanks guys for all the info about ffmpeg and xine...
[03:38] <_Johny> Hi. Can I upgrade to feisty with a downloaded cd, no using adept?
[03:39] <LjL> _Johny: only with the Alternate CD
[03:39] <LjL> !alternate > _Johny    (_Johny, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:39] <_Johny> LjL, thank you
[03:39] <busfahrer> !alternate > busfahrer
[03:39] <mpupu> I'm running dapper and wanted to upgrade to feisty. However, last time I tried the upgrade to edgy it ruined my fonts, so I'm planning to do a reinstall. Can I do that without having to burn a new CD?
[03:40] <LjL> mpupu: not easily
[03:40] <LjL> !install > mpupu    (mpupu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> on an old computer I'm trying to completely erase a hard drive, and when I try to make a new partition table it says 'it was not possible to make a new partition table." and when I right click, I can't format or delete the partitions
[03:40] <BluesKaj> mpupu:  very doubtful
[03:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> any suggestions for erasing the drives?
[03:41] <eas_> thx guys for all help ...i will rejoin for any new problem
[03:41] <savetheWorld> Anyone know if there is an apt package for wireshark?
[03:41] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: perhaps doing it from a Live CD instead of from an OS that's on the drive itself? ;)
[03:41] <jjj> Oh, libxine1-ffmpeg only exists for feisty...there is a package in debian.org but I'm not sure if it will run in hoary-edgy....
[03:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> ljl im on a live cd, the drive is not mounted
[03:41] <ads_> hi im trying to acces my windows ntfs drive   ive mounted it and done a  chmod 755 -R /mywindowsmounthere    but i still am unable to   1. autocomplete directories using tab   2.copy anything from the mounted drive     permissions are still read only??  what can i do pls to be able to copy the files i need  pls?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> what partition editor , dettoaltrimenti_?
[03:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> qtprted blueskaj
[03:41] <stdin> savetheWorld: yeah, it's called wireshark
[03:41] <LjL> !info wireshark > savetheWorld
[03:41] <LjL> !packages > savetheWorld    (savetheWorld, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:41] <mpupu> also, is there a tool like update-manager for kde?
[03:41] <jjj> assuming there is no ffmpeg module, whats the next best module that will play most of the video and audio files?
[03:42] <LjL> mpupu: yes, it's update-manager-kde :-)
[03:42] <jjj> Oh, libxine1-ffmpeg only exists for feisty...there is a package in debian.org but I'm not sure if it will run in hoary-edgy....
[03:42] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti_: GParted lve cd is much better , stable and very rffective.
[03:42] <LjL> mpupu: however it's not available in Dapper, only Edgy (updated edgy)
[03:42] <jussi01> !restricted | jjj
[03:42] <stdin> jjj: the OLD package is called "libxine-extracodecs" (from multiverse)
[03:42] <ubotu> jjj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <jjj> assuming there is no ffmpeg module, whats the next best module that will play most of the video and audio files?
[03:42] <BluesKaj> effective
[03:42] <jjj> ok thanks again...
[03:42] <ads_> why is chmod 777 or 755 not enabling me to gain access and copy files from my ntfs  drive??
[03:43] <mpupu> LjL: does it interact well with aptitude? I rely on aptitude to tell me which packages are installed just to satisfy dependencies, and remove them when they are no longer needed.
[03:43] <X2B> Question here people: I am using a surround soundsystem with 3 single jacks. If I want to change the volume via kmix, it only changes the volume of the front speakers. How can I change that??
[03:43] <fdoving> ads_: ntfs doesn't do linux file modes. you have to look at mount options.
[03:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj I don't have that on the live cd, this computer is very old and doesn't have an internet connection- any other ideas? can I use qtparted from the command line so I can get some errors, or read a log file?
[03:43] <strabes> X2B: i'd also like to figure that out
[03:44] <LjL> mpupu, APT in Edgy and Feisty has that feature built-in, however i don't know how well it syncs its own database with aptitude's one (it does sync it to some extent, but i can't say it's flawless)
[03:44] <strabes> X2B: when you change the volume of the master channel, it only changes the volume of the front speaker?
[03:44] <LjL> mpupu: you could ask Aptitude to give you a list of all automatically-installed packages, just in case the sync doesn't happen automatically
[03:44] <X2B> I wonder if this is a kmix problem or an ALSA problem...
[03:44] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti_: burn a GParted live cd on the pc you are using
[03:44] <nuxil> where is my inittab ?
[03:45] <savetheWorld> stdin: apt-get install didn't find it  ( I wouldn't have asked. )  :-)
[03:45] <LjL> mpupu: don't remember what the switch is called, but there is an "aptitude search ~x" to do that. google "aptitude manual"...
[03:45] <nuxil> i see no such file in /etc
[03:45] <strabes> X2B: what sound card do you have? I'm looking to buy a sound card that has good linux support
[03:45] <LjL> !upstart > nuxil    (nuxil, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:45] <nuxil> ok
[03:45] <stdin> savetheWorld: yeah, it's in universe
[03:45] <LjL> nuxil: Edgy and later don't use sysvinit, which means there's no inittab (unless you upgraded from Dapper). even if you *had* one, it would be ignored except for the default runlevel
[03:45] <X2B> strabes: it is an onboard card. Came with the asrock s939 dual-sata2 mainboard
[03:46] <savetheWorld> stdin: hmm - i thought I had universe enabled.. thanks.
[03:46] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti_: GParted and qparted are not the same thing
[03:46] <strabes> X2B: wow and it has surround sound? crazyness
[03:46] <mpupu> LjL: thanks for the help
[03:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj do they not both use the CLI parted?
[03:46] <ads_> was just checking man page on mount   what file is the file system type called for ntfs   ??     mount -t " ?? " /windowsdrive  /mountpoint     do i need to do anything else?
[03:46] <ads_> -file name*
[03:47] <stdin> ads_: for normal read only, it's ntfs
[03:47] <savetheWorld> stdin: I do have universe enabled, as far as I can tell.  I'm on dapper.  Might that be the problem? no wireshark for that release?
[03:48] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti_: never used the commandline on GParted, it's a gnome app , that just works
[03:48] <Filthpig> does anyone here have kvm experience?
[03:48] <ads_> this stil doesnt let me copy my files i need to get off this drive?!    i used    sudo mount -t ntfs /windows drive /mountpoint
[03:49] <epimeth> I found a kopete bug... where do I report it?
[03:49] <savetheWorld> kvm "keyboard video mouse switch" or kernel virtual machine?
[03:49] <stdin> savetheWorld: it may be still called "Ethereal" in dapper
[03:49] <savetheWorld> Aha!
[03:49] <Filthpig> epimeth: doesn't kopete have a "bug report" option under help or smth?
[03:50] <epimeth> maaaaayyyybe
[03:50] <savetheWorld> stdin: Thats it.
[03:50] <jjj> kopete.kde.org
[03:50] <jjj> maybe they have bug report link...
[03:50] <stdin> savetheWorld: had to go look up the old name then :p
[03:51] <savetheWorld> name changes. heh.  another gotcha... :-)
[03:51] <_Johny> Where do I find information about upgrading with the alternate cd?
[03:51] <ads_> sry to be a pain   i know there is a very fast way i can get my files off this hardrive ..   could some one hazard a solution pls..   what do i append to mount -t ntfs /windowsdrive /mountpoint     to allow me to copy files i need   chmod 777 will not suffice
[03:51] <nuxil> hmm.. how do i doit with upstart so i dont get a grafical login ?
[03:51] <jjj> http://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?product=kopete
[03:51] <dinoilpostino> ciao
[03:52] <stdin> ads_: try adding "-o umask=0000"
[03:52] <ads_> will try now thank you
[03:52] <jjj> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[03:52] <stdin> _Johny: you just put the CD in, and type "sudo apt-cdrom add" in konsole, then do a normal upgrade
[03:53] <jjj> try this link for mounting ntfs...
[03:53] <jjj> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[03:53] <jjj> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[03:53] <malik__> is there any way that i can convert an NTFS partition to ext3 without destroying data on it?
[03:53] <nuxil> how do i disable kdm so i can get a cli login
[03:53] <_Johny> stdin, thanks :D
[03:53] <malik__> how do find out that i am using ext2 or ext3 file system?
[03:53] <jjj> havent heard of ntfs to other filesystem converter...
[03:53] <olli> hey who play wormux games?
[03:53] <_Johny> malik__, just put mount |grep ext
[03:54] <stdin> nuxil: there is an option for a console login in KDM
[03:54] <nuxil> i cant use kdm..
[03:54] <baskitcaise> malik: snort answer=no it is impossible to convert
[03:54] <ads_> stdin: thanks very much that did it    will have to remember that   thanks for fast response :D
[03:55] <stdin> ads_: no problem
[03:55] <nuxil> stdin, i need to sort out my driver issue first.. my pc crashed when starting up X
[03:55] <stdin> nuxil: why not?
[03:55] <nuxil> thats why
[03:55] <stdin> nuxil: ahh, ok
[03:55] <stdin> nuxil: just boot in to recovery mode, that's the easiest way
[03:56] <jjj> has anyone here has experience installing kubuntu/ubuntu on a flashdrive?
[03:56] <nuxil> yes.. but i also want to disable kdm.. i never liked it, i like cli login
[03:57] <jjj> has anyone here has experience installing kubuntu/ubuntu on a flashdrive?
[03:57] <stdin> nuxil: well, you can do it from the recovery mode, just run "rm /etc/rc?.d/???KDM"
[03:57] <nuxil> aha
[03:57] <nuxil> yes i can do that :)
[03:57] <stdin> tho there is a tool to do it too, just can't remember
[03:58] <nuxil> chmod -x :)
[03:58] <stdin> update-rc.d
[03:58] <stdin> "update-rc.d -f kdm remove"
[03:58] <stdin> man pages rock :)
[03:58] <nuxil> yup
[04:00] <BluesKaj> jjj: if anyone has had that experience they will say it..haven't heard of an install...used as a storage like a live cd ?
[04:01] <UKESN|Javax> woot, beryl is fun
[04:01] <stdin> !away > Aelwyn
[04:02] <jjj> I'm trying to use it as a rescue flashdrive for malware infested windows pc...
[04:03] <jjj> bye bye people...
[04:04] <jjj> :-d
[04:09] <_Johny> Can I make the upgrade to fiesty still using the system, or should I let it do his job freely?
[04:09] <zylthinking> why console font changed after I compiled kernel 2.6.21.1
[04:11] <rigoberto> buenos dias
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | rigoberto
[04:11] <ubotu> rigoberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:13] <_Johny> Can I make the upgrade to fiesty still using the system, or should I let it do his job freely?
[04:13] <stdin> _Johny: up to you, but you should be able to use the system
[04:15] <_Johny> stdin, thanks
[04:18] <gurtubay> hola, si alguien pudiera decir en que link puedo bajar controladores para mi pc, acabo de instalas el kubuntu y no me esta dando la configuracion del monitor de plasma
[04:18] <|ericsson|> !es > gurtubay
[04:18] <BluesKaj> !es | gurtubay
[04:18] <ubotu> gurtubay: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:19] <|ericsson|> hoho, what would the default password in phpmyadmin be?
[04:21] <|ericsson|> Maybe I should just stick to things I know, leave this web-based graphical thingies alone? ;)
[04:21] <BluesKaj> |ericsson|: whatever pwd you use for other apps
[04:21] <|ericsson|> BluesKaj: No can do mate, won't work..
[04:22] <BluesKaj> bummer
[04:24] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:24] <Ace2016> can someone help me to install kbfx
[04:24] <hdxx> Ace2016: sudo apt-get install kbfx
[04:25] <Ace2016> http://www.kbfx.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060224122953187
[04:25] <Ace2016> hdxx: it won't work that version is too old and won't work with this theme :(
[04:25] <hdxx> you have feisty?
[04:26] <Ace2016> i don't know how to get checkinstall to make a deb and install it, i usually do ./configure make and then sudo checkinstall -D
[04:26] <Ace2016> hdxx: yup
[04:26] <ppewp> if I want to play with both ubuntu and kubuntu, but I dont want to frig up either, am I best off running two different installations?
[04:27] <|ericsson|> BluesKaj: Have you ever heard that telnet is needed to run mysql?
[04:27] <Ace2016> ppewp: not really, just install the packages you need and then choose the login manager and stuff you want, they can be changed later
[04:27] <hdxx> ppewp: or install kde and gnome
[04:27] <hdxx> on one system
[04:27] <hdxx> Ace2016:  there are  packets just for breezy.S
[04:28] <ppewp> I did that once, but all the kde apps showed up in the gnome menu, and same for kde with gnome apps, so it all went to hell
[04:28] <Ace2016> hdxx: not fair
[04:28] <ppewp> and the login screen changed to kubuntu, and I was left unsure how much was broken
[04:28] <hdxx> then install 2 systems..
[04:28] <Jucato> ppewp: none of those mean that anything was broken
[04:29] <ppewp> I seee
[04:29] <Jucato> 1. it's perfectly normal that GNOME apps would show up in KDE when installed, and vice versa
[04:29] <hdxx> Ace2016: did you try .tar.gz?
[04:29] <Ace2016> ppewp: well you can do sudo update sudo update-alternatives --config bla, and do ls ls /etc/alternatives/ to see what you can change
[04:29] <Ace2016> hdxx: yup
[04:29] <Ramunas> hello
[04:29] <Ace2016> hi
[04:29] <Jucato> 2. possible when you installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu, you chose to use KDM as your login manager, so it changed to Kubuntu
[04:30] <Ramunas> I'm using Ubuntu, and I just installed kubuntu with aptitude to play with it, after removing it some of my fonts don't look the way they were
[04:30] <ppewp> the login manager doesnt matter then except for looks?  they all do the same thing?
[04:30] <Ramunas> how could I get my old fonts back?
[04:31] <Jucato> ppewp: sort of. KDM or GDM are the display managers/login screens. they're practically the same... practically
[04:31] <ppewp> nice, thanks
[04:31] <Ace2016> ppewp: but go with kdm if your going to use both
[04:31] <ppewp> oh :O
[04:32] <Ace2016> ppewp: if you use gdm you won't get shutdown and restart options in kde, you will only be able to logout
[04:32] <Ace2016> Jucato: has that changed in feisty at all?
[04:32] <Jucato> Ace2016: afaik it was fixed in Edgy, but the bug got back into Feisty
[04:33] <Jucato> fixed = you can use GDM to login to a KDE session and still have the shutdown stuff
[04:34] <Ace2016> bye all
[04:34] <DaSkreech> bye
[04:34] <vincenzo__> bye
[04:35] <BluesKaj> |ericsson|: no haven't heard that , but my knowledge of that subject is practically nil
[04:36] <RytmenPinnen> bah my adept manager is broken again after i tried to update wine the winehq way
[04:36] <RytmenPinnen> "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem"
[04:36] <RytmenPinnen> I tried both commands
[04:37] <BluesKaj> <---still struggling with digital sound output probs ...worked on edgy but no longer on feisty :( ...beginning to wonder if I should revert ...tired of all the crashes and hardware probs
[04:37] <Jucato> !adeptfix | RytmenPinnen
[04:37] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:37] <crimsun> BluesKaj: by all means, revert.  We support 6.10 for quite some time yet.
[04:37] <crimsun> BluesKaj: and if you're talking about an HDA card, it's known and fixed.
[04:38] <RytmenPinnen> still doesnt work :/
[04:38] <BluesKaj> it's frustrating that an upgrade is so buggy when there appears at least to be very little difference
[04:38] <Jucato> RytmenPinnen: it would probably be good if you could use pastebin to show what error messages you get after entering those commands
[04:39] <RytmenPinnen> no error or anything
[04:39] <BluesKaj> crimsun: HDA card ?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> <--soundcard is an onboard ati ixp - ac'97 IE958 configuration...seems pretty standard
[04:41] <RytmenPinnen> there's some error with source list
[04:41] <crimsun> BluesKaj: right, that's AC'97-based, not HDA-based
[04:43] <soulrider_> hey Jucato
[04:43] <soulrider_> hi BluesKaj
[04:44] <RytmenPinnen> how do I remove sources from the source list?
[04:44] <BluesKaj> but it has a spdif coaxial output connector that i was using to feed audio to my audio receiver dac input in the tv room. I prefer the sound from the pc vs the dvdplayer in the HT setup
[04:44] <BluesKaj> hi soulrider_
[04:44] <Jucato> hi soulrider_! long time! :)
[04:44] <RytmenPinnen> the problem came when I added some winehq sources to update to the lates version
[04:44] <mischdele> RythmenPinnen: just put a # in front of the source you want to remove
[04:45] <RytmenPinnen> k
[04:45] <BluesKaj> or just hilight it and 'delete'
[04:45] <RytmenPinnen> but I cant save
[04:45] <BluesKaj> you have to be root
[04:46] <RytmenPinnen> ah right, so how did I do that again, sudo sources.list ?
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> woo!  score one for ubuntu
[04:46] <|ericsson|> RytmenPinnen: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:46] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen:  "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:46] <RytmenPinnen> ah right
[04:47] <BluesKaj> in the runbox , RytmenPinnen
[04:47] <BlOOd___> alguien que sepa pasar de .mdf a .iso
[04:47] <RytmenPinnen> k the adept manager is back now, but I'd still like to update wine
[04:47] <Filthpig> !.es | BlOOd___
[04:48] <ubotu> BlOOd___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:48] <BlOOd___> help me
[04:48] <RytmenPinnen> only 9.33 is available and 9.36 is latest, now they wont help me over at winehq before i get the lates version
[04:48] <|ericsson|> Alarm: ...
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> RytmenPinnen: add the right source
[04:48] <Yagami> hi
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> it's over at wine's site
[04:48] <Yagami> is there a way to install kubuntu into a lvm parition ?
[04:49] <RytmenPinnen> k, I have to do it some other way then so it doesnt get screwed up again
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  who's going to support dell's linux initiative by actually buying one?
[04:50] <RytmenPinnen> me if they offer something I like, I normally "build" my own computer tho
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> RytmenPinnen: ubuntu's the chosen distro for the line, and it means fully working hardware
[04:51] <fdoving> Yagami: yes, use the alternate install cd. it gives you that option among others.
[04:51] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: I would if I could convince the wife to dump her old HP pavilion :)
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> (otherwise dell would have a support nightmare)
[04:51] <Filthpig> Daisuke_Ido: Which distro will they use?
[04:51] <RytmenPinnen> cool
[04:51] <Yagami> fdoving: damn ... another cd download ... thanks , gonna try it
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Filthpig: as i just said, ubuntu
[04:52] <Filthpig> ah, sorry
[04:52] <mischdele> well, i find the dell-linux thing a quite good thin, but actually i prefer completely blank computers...
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html
[04:52] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  ?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> mischdele: unfortunately most ppl perfer to have an OS when they buy the pc
[04:53] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I "simulated" your USB problem ;)
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> mischdele: i do too, but i would purchase one to show that there's real demand for linux desktops out there
[04:53] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Now I get permission denied when trying to read a usb-stick
[04:53] <Alarm> welcome to the club
[04:54] <Alarm> i try to fix now something on cedega
[04:54] <Alarm> on kubuntu i didnt have any problem while playing soldier of fortune
[04:54] <Alarm> now on debian the game is running though, but on low frame rates
[04:54] <Alarm> sometimes 20fps
[04:54] <|ericsson|> Alarm: and I didn't resolve until I did /sbin/modprobe usb-storage
[04:55] <Alarm> after some tests nvidia driver seem to be installed correctly, i dont know if it has to do with the cedega settings, although i have exactly the same ase kubuntu
[04:55] <mischdele> Daisuke_ldo: that's a point of course... but i still think the manufacturers should produce some pcs without any OS...
[04:55] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  do u think that this module could do also for me ?
[04:55] <|ericsson|> Alarm: It could, give it a try, just load it as root, not sudo
[04:56] <Alarm> well i use root on debian anyway
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> mischdele: you can buy a dell with no os as well
[04:56] <Alarm> modprobe usb-storage ?
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> this isn't anything new
[04:56] <|ericsson|> Alarm: yup
[04:56] <Alarm> is anything else to do ? restart or something
[04:56] <|ericsson|> Alarm: you could do with mount -a afterwards
[04:57] <Alarm> ok lets see now
[04:57] <Filthpig> If I had the money, I'd buy a Dell laptop with ubuntu (I wonder if they'll deliver Kubuntu, too?)
[04:57] <Alarm> how can i see the modules that are loaded ?
[04:58] <Alarm> mount -a /media/win5 , or /dev/sda1 ?
[04:58] <dwidmann> Alarm: lsmod
[04:58] <|ericsson|> Alarm: just mount -a
[04:59] <Alarm> nothing, still the same  , occupie
[04:59] <mischdele> Daisuke_ldo: oh... i actually haven't looked really closely to the dell computers because they mostly are quite expensive pcs (at least for a student...) but if you can it's a really good thing...thx for the clue...
[04:59] <Alarm> a .hal-mtap.lock is a file that as a user i dont have access, is that something that is normal ?
[04:59] <Alarm> i see also a ,hal-mtap
[04:59] <Alarm> .hal-mtab sorry
[04:59] <bobesponja> hey all
[04:59] <bobesponja> ktorrent keeps on crashing here on feisty, anyone has the same problem?
[05:00] <|ericsson|> Alarm: hmm, could it be hal who has grabbed the drive?
[05:00] <eas_> hello i want the opinions of old and adva.. users what is the best? to keep UBUNTU 6.06 LTS or to format and put the last version (7)
[05:00] <Filthpig> I know that Dell are quite popular in the government and the schools in Norway, so maybe if they could provide their cheapest computers with Edubuntu it could be a real breakthrough for Linux, as the kids learn to handle linux instead of Windows from when they are six years old..
[05:00] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  no clue dude, its just the files that i noticed now
[05:01] <jussi01> !offtopic | Filthpig
[05:01] <Alarm> -rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 2007-05-01 13:53 .hal-mtab
[05:01] <Alarm> ---sr-x---  1 root root      0 2007-04-29 11:37 .hal-mtab-lock
[05:01] <ubotu> Filthpig: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:01] <|ericsson|> Alarm: that does seem odd..
[05:01] <jussi01> bobesponja: yeah, its a known bug
[05:01] <|ericsson|> Alarm: have you got the usb-core loaded in addition to the usb-storage?
[05:01] <bobesponja> jussi01: anyway to fix it such as a recompile or stuff? or is there an update planned?
[05:02] <Alarm> usbcore               112644  5 usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[05:02] <jussi01> bobesponja: go to launchpad and search for ktorrent bugs - keep an eye on that
[05:02] <Alarm> usb_storage            71840  0
[05:02] <RytmenPinnen> do I have to write anything in the command path when creating a shortcut for steam?
[05:02] <|ericsson|> Alarm: ok, that's good
[05:02] <mischdele> Filthpig: that of course would be quite nice, but the problem is that most schools don't want any OS apart from windows on their computer because they know that 99.9% of the students will have to handle windows later in their job and not linux... of course this would be different if there were more pcs with linux out in the world...
[05:03] <|ericsson|> Alarm: and when you lsusb you can see the drive?
[05:04] <Alarm> let me check
[05:04] <Alarm> well not really
[05:04] <Filthpig> mischdele: we can take that discussion in the offtopic channel ;)
[05:04] <Alarm> i see this: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:05] <|ericsson|> Alarm: and nothing else?
[05:05] <Alarm> well i see 4-5 lines like that and one
[05:05] <eas_> what is the best ? to keep ubuntu 6.06 and update them? or to download and put the ubuntu 7.0?
[05:05] <Alarm> Bus 005 Device 004: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter
[05:05] <mischdele> Filthpig: well yes ;) but i have to go now anyway... bye
[05:05] <|ericsson|> Alarm: that would be the drive..
[05:05] <Filthpig> eas_: unless you reallyreallyreally need the LTS, I'd say upgrade
[05:06] <mischdele> quit
[05:06] <mischdele> exit
[05:06] <Filthpig> haha
[05:06] <eas_> what is LTS? sorry i am newuser
[05:06] <Filthpig> long time support
[05:06] <eas_> :|
[05:06] <Filthpig> imo, you don't need it, really
[05:06] <Filthpig> hehe
[05:06] <Hobbsee> eas_: security fixes for 3 years
[05:07] <Hobbsee> instead of 18 months
[05:07] <Filthpig> I've upgraded kubuntu every time there was a release available, and I've never had any problems
[05:07] <neverblue> I currently have a working Intel (on board) video card, I just added a ATI 8MB PCI into this system.  I followed the directions given on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide, but without success. I haven't tried the manual step, as I dont even know if I can install this card (for duals), someone know if i can?
[05:07] <|ericsson|> Alarm: if you un-plug your usb-drive, and then do lsusb, do you still see the same entries?
[05:07] <eas_> Hobbsee are u old linux user? and what is you opinion?
[05:07] <Alarm> yes
[05:08] <Alarm> i am reading now about the .hal file i mentioned
[05:08] <Hobbsee> eas_: upgrade, unless it's for a server
[05:08] <n8k99> eas_: never ask a lady to reveal her age
[05:09] <eas_> :)
[05:09] <n8k99> especially if she has a large pointy stick
[05:09] <jussi01> lol
[05:09] <eas_> thx anyway it is not for a server its for my pc
[05:09] <Alarm> let me try something i renamed the files i i will reboot to see any changes
[05:10] <eas_> so i wave just to upgrade the 6.06 and i will be ok
[05:10] <eas_> have sorry
[05:10] <Hobbsee> yeah, you should be fine
[05:12] <eas_> efharisto-thanks! i will be back for any other problem ...
[05:12] <|ericsson|> eas_: 6.06 LTS is a safer bet for a production server rather than 7.04 (my opinion)
[05:13] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  i rebooted, and the system created again the same files although i did remove them temporarly
[05:13] <sdf> ihi all
[05:13] <neverblue> can you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to setup dual monitors?
[05:13] <sdf> hi
[05:14] <neverblue> and do you have to leave X to run it?
[05:14] <eas_> no , no ..it is for my pc....but i will keep 6.06 cause of support(untill 2009) ...LTS
[05:14] <sdf> i want to download files from megaupload
[05:14] <sdf> how can i do this from ubuntu??
[05:14] <soulrider_> neverblue: you dont need xorg running to do that command
[05:14] <soulrider_> but im not sure if you can config dual screens with it
[05:14] <neverblue> i dont need?
[05:14] <|ericsson|> Alarm: weird :)
[05:14] <eas_> efharisto-thank you |ericsson| 2
[05:15] <sdf> note megaupload toolbar for internet explorer
[05:15] <soulrider_> neverblue: check out the forums, there are some good tutorials there
[05:15] <Alarm> eas_,  parakalo
[05:15] <sdf> any one help
[05:15] <sdf> how can i do this?
[05:15] <eas_> :)
[05:15] <soulrider_> lunch, bbl
[05:15] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I thought if you do dmesg, to you see anything like: USB device is not claimed by any active driver.
[05:15] <sdf> help
[05:16] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  believe me u dont want to see my dmesg...
[05:16] <|ericsson|> Alarm: lol ;)
[05:16] <eas_> i am new user of LINUX O/S and i understund that windows it is a matrix loll so we have to learn linux hehehe
[05:16] <RytmenPinnen> um isnt jack installed by default?
[05:17] <sdf> any one help me??
[05:17] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, seems so ohwell
[05:17] <sdf> any one search for me about winter sonata download by torrent
[05:18] <sdf> i search in google and i get any results
[05:18] <sdf> i don t
[05:18] <jussi01> !offtopoic | sdf
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopoic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <fdoving> sdf: i don't belive that has anything to do with kubuntu.
[05:18] <jussi01> !offtopic | sdf
[05:18] <ubotu> sdf: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:18] <sdf> ok
[05:18] <sdf> sorry
[05:19] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I'm just throwing things out now, but have you got modprobe usb-ehci loaded?
[05:19] <|ericsson|> Alarm: that's for usb2.0
[05:19] <sdf> fdoving what do you mean with your speech??
[05:20] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  idont see it loaded
[05:20] <fdoving> sdf: helping you google for torrents is not covered by the topic of this channel, "kubuntu support".
[05:20] <sdf> fdove  ok sorry if annoy you
[05:20] <|ericsson|> Alarm: then load it :)
[05:20] <scast> How can I enable module UserDir on Apache running on Festy?
[05:20] <Alarm> !usb-ehci
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb-ehci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Alarm> are u sure ?
[05:20] <Alarm> !usb-echi
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb-echi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <|ericsson|> Alarm: relatively
[05:21] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Never ask me if I'm a 100% sure, because that seldom happends...trial and error my friend, trial and error :)
[05:22] <fdoving> Alarm: ehci_hcd
[05:23] <Alarm> yeap this one is loaded
[05:23] <fdoving> what was your problem?
[05:23] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  one more that tries to help, shall i shoot ? :)
[05:24] <Alarm> fdoving,  are u a bit expirienced with usb devices and mounting ?
[05:24] <RytmenPinnen> um, I cant find libjack.so
[05:24] <|ericsson|> Alarm: fire away...
[05:24] <RytmenPinnen> its needed to run winecfg wich i need to config to run steam and day of defeat
[05:25] <|ericsson|> Alarm: you should have your little "problem" ready to copy & paste ;)
[05:25] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: libjack0.100.0-dev if you're on feisty.
[05:25] <aaroncampbell> What is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app
[05:25] <RytmenPinnen> ah I need the dev too
[05:25] <Alarm> |ericsson|, i do have it to copy paste it, i just wait from fdiaz  to answer if he is ok with mounting and usb, else there is no way to flood the channel again
[05:25] <fdoving> RytmenPinnen: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for files.
[05:25] <aaroncampbell> I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print
[05:26] <RytmenPinnen> l
[05:26] <fdoving> Alarm: what's your problem?
[05:26] <Alarm> when mounting my external usb hd . when i plug it in and turn it on , and try to enter in the partition i get: could not enter folder /media/win5 . i can only mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 . i did also add my user (alarm) to the plugdev group , and rebooted as well.
[05:26] <Alarm> in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .
[05:27] <Alarm> en i mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 as i said it works pretty well,. i can enter the partition,. but once i turn it of (even if i remove it safely) , and then turn it on again, i get again the same message . it is an ntfs drive
[05:27] <Alarm> error messages are like /media/win5 is occupied , or not enough permition
[05:27] <fdoving> Alarm: remove it from fstab. or comment the line, add # at the beginning.
[05:28] <Alarm> some how my system is keeping somewhere stored that it MUST mount on /media/win5 . when i remove that directory i get the error that i it cant mount on /media/win5
[05:28] <Alarm> fdoving, Alarm> in the fstab there is nothing listed about the /dev/sda1 device .
[05:28] <pulaski> hello
[05:28] <fdoving> Alarm: ok, can you pastebin /etc/fstab ?
[05:29] <Alarm> sure
[05:29] <Alarm> !paste
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <Alarm> but u wont see anything according to the /dev/sda1
[05:29] <Alarm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18602/
[05:30] <fdoving> Alarm: ok, what about 'dmesg|tail -n20'
[05:30] <pulaski>  just noticed on my newly installed feisty fawn my thumb drive is not being mounted.  The live cd for kubuntu mounted it no problem.  Has anyone elese had this experience?
[05:30] <lucas_> Hi, need hepl for an ati / flgrx driver installation
[05:30] <fdoving> !ati | lucas_
[05:30] <ubotu> lucas_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <Alarm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18603/
[05:30] <MalMen> hello, i am trying to make a live-cd based on Kubuntu, is possible install nvidia and ati drivers, and on boot know if have opengl support or not?
[05:30] <lucas_> i ve read the tuto on wiki.cchtml but it does work at all
[05:31] <Alarm> the upper link
[05:31] <lucas_> ok thanks
[05:31] <lucas_> will check it out
[05:31] <luapv> lucas_: have you tried using envy?
[05:31] <fdoving> Alarm: then 'cat /media/.hal-mtab'
[05:31] <lucas_> nop
[05:31] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  does that file remind u something ? :)
[05:32] <|ericsson|> Alarm: yup
[05:32] <lucas_> luapv: no is that a good method for feisty ?
[05:32] <scast> How can I enable module UserDir on Apache running on Festy?
[05:32] <luapv> lucas_: i've used it to install the nvidia drivers, and it worked with no problems at all
[05:32] <Alarm> fdoving,  nothing returned
[05:32] <luapv> lucas_: you can get it from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:32] <fdoving> scast: 'sudo a2enmod userdir'
[05:33] <lucas_> ok but do you know wich version it installs ?
[05:33] <|ericsson|> Alarm: did you replace the newly created with the old ones again?
[05:33] <scast> Thank you.
[05:33] <luapv> lucas_: btw, i'm on feisty
[05:33] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  yes
[05:33] <henri_> hi, could anyone tell me where to put own .sh files that should be executed before kde starts?
[05:33] <lucas_> I' mean which version of the driver 8.34.8 ? 8.xx.x?
[05:33] <Alarm> fdoving,  there is also a file: .hal-mtab-lock
[05:33] <fdoving> Alarm: ok. no pmount-hal mounted devices.
[05:34] <fdoving> Alarm: that means no kded/mediamanager mounted devices.
[05:34] <luapv> lucas_: it will download the latest drivers from ati
[05:34] <Alarm> fdoving,  thats something i was told that kde tried to mount them so udev couldnt
[05:34] <lucas_> hm, will this create incompatibilty issue when I upgrade th e kernel
[05:34] <Alarm> thats why i get the message could not open /media/win5 it is allready occupied
[05:35] <lucas_> luapv: I guess it does
[05:35] <fdoving> Alarm: do you have udev setup to mount it for you?
[05:35] <Alarm> when i do pmout /dev/sda1 i can enter the partition , but once i turn it off and on again , i have to pmount it again
[05:35] <Alarm> fdoving,  honestly , i didnt touch anything on udev
[05:35] <pulaski> the 7.04 live cd mounted the usb thumb drive on the mount "point /media/THUMB DRIVE" but had no fstab entry.  Would creatin a mount point eg /mnt/THUMB for it on my installed 7.04?
[05:35] <Alarm> i dont know if it does something automatically
[05:35] <fdoving> Alarm: good.
[05:35] <luapv> henri_: trying putting your .sh scripts in ".kde/Autostart/" which is located in your home folder
[05:36] <sylvisj> can anyone help me with using httptunnel?
[05:36] <henri_> luapv: thanks!
[05:36] <lucas_> luapv: I'm not very confident with such scripts
[05:36] <sylvisj> IT's installed, but, well... I can't find any info on actually using it
[05:37] <Alarm> fdoving,  if u will find the solution , believe me many people in here would like to know what it was hehe including me :)
[05:37] <luapv> lucas_: sorry than, i can't be of help, as i have an nvidia card
[05:37] <lucas_> luapv:  thanks
[05:37] <sylvisj> anyon?
[05:37] <aaroncampbell> What is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print
[05:37] <luapv> lucas_: check out this link, maybe it can be of some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:38] <aaroncampbell> Are there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?
[05:38] <fdoving> Alarm: what does 'cat /sys/block/sda/removable' say?
[05:38] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ cat /sys/block/sda/removable
[05:38] <Alarm> 0
[05:38] <Alarm> the drive is turned on
[05:38] <sylvisj> Looking for someone who can help me use httptunnel
[05:38] <luapv> lucas_: oops, i should have pasted this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=show&redirect=BinaryDriverHowto%2Fati
[05:38] <fdoving> Alarm: ok. it's marked as non-removable. that's your problem.
[05:39] <henri_> luapv: damn, the problem is that the command is "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 storage" so I have to have a moment for entering correct passwords...
[05:39] <lucas_> luapv: Thank you,
[05:39] <fdoving> Alarm: echo '/dev/sda1'|sudo tee -a /etc/pmount.allow
[05:39] <Alarm> fdoving,  i was getting some strange dmesg yesterday about mounting it under windows and do a chkdsk , do u want me to check in my history to see if i can find them ?
[05:39] <lucas_> luapv:  It's for edgy, and I don't know if it really apply to feisty
[05:39] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ echo '/dev/sda1'|sudo tee -a /etc/pmount.allow
[05:39] <Alarm> Password:
[05:39] <Alarm> /dev/sda1
[05:40] <fdoving> Alarm: good. now cycle the power or unplug-replug it.
[05:40] <Alarm> ok
[05:41] <Alarm> ok, the dialog box appeared to open it in a new window , Yes/cancle . i assume yes
[05:41] <fdoving> doesn't matter, it's already mounted.
[05:41] <fdoving> Alarm: the dialog didn't appear before, right?
[05:41] <Alarm> fdoving,  also an older dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18474/ with the volume is dirty
[05:42] <Alarm> no , it was appearing , but when i was pressing i was getting . cannot open /media/win5 it is allready occupied
[05:42] <RyMan> Hey guys, I need a little help here.
[05:42] <Alarm> ehmmm, and i get exactly the same message now aswell
[05:42] <RyMan> It's K-Ryan
[05:42] <Alarm> the mount point /med.... is occupied
[05:42] <fdoving> Alarm: so, what's mounted on /media/win5 ?
[05:42] <RyMan> At sometime or another I probably mentioned that my DVD drive never opened, and it didn't have a little paper clip hole.
[05:42] <Alarm> and it tries to open it to : system:/media/sda1
[05:42] <Alarm> fdoving,  nothing
[05:42] <RyMan> Now for some reason, on boot up, IT OPENED!
[05:42] <jesusiyo> #kubuntu-es
[05:42] <RyMan> But now it won't stay closed.
[05:43] <Alarm> rockpc:/media# umount /media/win5
[05:43] <Alarm> umount: /media/win5: not mounted
[05:44] <fdoving> Alarm: ohwell.. umount isn't ware of pmounted devices. now unplug the device. - does /media/win5 exist?
[05:44] <Alarm> but as u said it has to do with kde and udev that try to mount it
[05:44] <sylvisj> I could use help with httptunnel, if anyone could help me
[05:44] <fdoving> Alarm: no, udev doesn't do mounting.
[05:45] <Alarm> fdoving,  yes the win5 remains
[05:45] <fdoving> Alarm: ok. check the contents of win5.
[05:45] <Alarm> its empty
[05:45] <fdoving> Alarm: ls -la
[05:45] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ ls -la /media/win5
[05:45] <Alarm> total 8
[05:45] <Alarm> drwxrwxrwx  2 root root 4096 2007-05-01 13:13 .
[05:45] <Alarm> drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2007-05-01 18:32 ..
[05:47] <Bluetooth> hi all
[05:47] <Bluetooth> is anybody good in PHP and PEAR?
[05:47] <aaroncampbell> Bluetooth: probably the people in ##PHP
[05:47] <Graham> I'm alright with PHP.
[05:47] <Alarm> thats what i get with ls -la
[05:48] <Bluetooth> I need to install some PEAR packeges to my server
[05:48] <Alarm> of course the drive is turned off now
[05:48] <aaroncampbell> What is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print
[05:48] <aaroncampbell> Are there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?
[05:49] <kc0eks> hello all :) recent windows convert, figured id come here and say hey.
[05:50] <fdoving> Alarm: does cat /proc/mounts say anything about sda? (you don't need to paste it).
[05:50] <Alarm> not at all
[05:52] <fdoving> Alarm: what if you delete the win5 directory, then plug the device in?
[05:52] <|ericsson|> Hi there kc0eks, welcome..
[05:52] <Alarm> it tells me it cannot open /media/win5
[05:52] <fdoving> Alarm: re-check /etc/fstab
[05:53] <fdoving> Alarm: go all the way up, and all the way down.
[05:53] <Alarm> nothing about sda1 or win5
[05:53] <fdoving> Alarm: it shouldn't tell you that. pmount auto-creates the mountpoints.
[05:54] <Alarm> well, so what should i try now
[05:54] <fdoving> Alarm: what version of kubuntu is this?
[05:54] <Alarm> its not kubuntu, debian etch
[05:54] <highlander_> que es lo nuevo en linux?
[05:55] <fdoving> Alarm: ah. that explains it. i have no clue what's the default way to handle this in debian etch. ask #debian
[05:55] <Alarm> it would be the same thing on kubuntu , its debian undernieth
[05:55] <fairo> where can i get a codec .3gp for mplayer?
[05:55] <fdoving> Alarm: no. it's not exactly the same. ask #debian.
[05:56] <Alarm> fdoving,  believe me, they couldnt help me either :)
[05:56] <Alarm> its now 2 days i am runing in forums, google and channels in freenode with that issue
[05:56] <fdoving> get kubuntu.
[05:56] <Alarm> i had
[05:56] <Alarm> edgy
[05:57] <Alarm> also i had dapper
[05:58] <|ericsson|> !es > highlander
[05:58] <highlander_> quiciera saber que es lo nuevo en kubuntu
[05:58] <scast> highlander_: #kubuntu-es
[05:58] <scast> !spanish | highlander_
[05:58] <ubotu> highlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:58] <Alarm> edgy was good, for some reason feisty didnt like my system that much
[05:58] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  we are still in the same spot where we started from :)
[05:59] <|ericsson|> Alarm: not really...now we know that your system doesn't like you anymore :)
[05:59] <highlander_> gracias
[06:00] <|ericsson|> I'm not doing anything productful atm, just sitting and glaring into the screen, following mysterious USB problems ;)
[06:00] <Alarm> i also read this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127
[06:01] <Alarm> although its about card readers
[06:02] <aaroncampbell> What is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print
[06:02] <aaroncampbell> Are there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?
[06:02] <|ericsson|> flashdrive -fstype=vfat,rw,gid=100,umask=002 :/dev/flashdrive
[06:02] <highlander_> tengo un problema con el Amarok de Kubuntu, no puedo reproducir MP3
[06:02] <|ericsson|> Alarm: what was your umask set to?
[06:03] <Alarm> i dont have a fstab entry
[06:03] <fdoving> aaroncampbell: did you try google? or freshmeat? or packages.ubuntu.com ?
[06:03] <LjL> !es | highlander_
[06:03] <ubotu> highlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:03] <LjL> !mp3 > highlander_    (highlander_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:03] <aaroncampbell> fdoving: I tried looking through all the packages, and even searched for "java" in them, but didn't really see anything.
[06:04] <scast> highlander_: te estamos mandando a #kubuntu-es porque en realidad no hablamos espaol.
[06:04] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I don't get it, your problem is the weirdest I've seen in a long time ;)
[06:05] <Alarm> maybe something screwed up the system
[06:05] <|ericsson|> Alarm: Have you tried using flash-sticks, usb-memories?
[06:05] <Alarm> i dont got any
[06:07] <Alarm> i google about that occupied error but i dont see anything at all
[06:07] <|ericsson|> Anyone know what kind of port localhost:ipp is?
[06:08] <fdoving> |ericsson|: grep ipp /etc/services
[06:09] <fdoving> it's printing.
[06:09] <fdoving> probably cups.
[06:09] <|ericsson|> fdoving: thought I'd blocked cups through bastille :/
[06:09] <|ericsson|> fdoving: but right you are, Internet printing..
[06:10] <Alarm> fdoving,  when pressing on the "OK" on the dialog box that appears when i turn on the drive, what command does it run on the backround
[06:11] <Alarm> i dont really know how or what way should i look about it in google
[06:11] <highlander_> si los vi gracias ljl
[06:11] <fdoving> Alarm: do you run kde in debian?
[06:11] <Alarm> yes
[06:12] <fdoving> Alarm: then #debian-kde is good.
[06:12] <Alarm> okie :) i will try also there
[06:12] <Alarm> :)
[06:12] <fdoving> Alarm: in kubuntu it runs 'pmount-hal' with some hal url and options.
[06:12] <fdoving> !away > aelwyn
[06:12] <Alarm> okie
[06:13] <highlander_> no problem i estand tha englsh, but no much
[06:13] <Alarm> fdoving,  when i run pmount /dev/sda1 it works well , it mounts without any problem
[06:14] <Alarm> even if i remove it safely , and then turn it off/on again , i have to manualy pmount it again
[06:14] <|ericsson|> Anyone knows how to run in KDE gui as root?
[06:14] <fdoving> Alarm: yeah, but its about hal policies etc. ask #debian-kde they probably know. i don't have any debian machine to help you figure out how this is handled in debian.
[06:14] <Alarm> debian-kde seems to be dead
[06:14] <Alarm> sudo app
[06:15] <fdoving> Alarm: then wait for someone to answer.
[06:15] <Alarm> :)
[06:15] <|ericsson|> Alarm: need root :s
[06:15] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  install debian hehe
[06:15] <|ericsson|> Alarm: I have it on another machine, but as usual..no gui :)
[06:15] <Alarm> i remember when samba was asking me for the root password  :)
[06:16] <Alarm> on kubuntu i mean .
[06:16] <Alarm> it couldnt accept my sudo pass
[06:16] <|ericsson|> Alarm: ...so, how to you use filemanager e.t.c as root? ;)
[06:17] <Alarm> dude its like 5 months ago, i cant remember what i did to have root
[06:17] <|ericsson|> :)
[06:18] <murali> hello all.. i'm a newbie.. and i need help to configure internet over a LAN. .. where mine is the only linux machine,where as all the others are windows machines including the server..
[06:20] <MidMark> murali: the problem'
[06:20] <MidMark> ?
[06:20] <highlander_> who know to angeltronix?
[06:22] <murali> MidMark: the problem is that i'm not even able to ping other computers over the network,let alone get access to the internet.. the server runs DHCP
[06:22] <|ericsson|> Alarm: kdesu konqueror, that worked ;)
[06:22] <murali> i tried runnin sudo dhclient eth0..but it doesn work.. i've an external NIC
[06:22] <Alarm> |ericsson|,  sudo kate would also work
[06:23] <|ericsson|> Alarm: not to access a root dir as root user ;)
[06:23] <Alarm> oh thats what u wanted
[06:23] <|ericsson|> Alarm: kind of ;)
[06:23] <MidMark> murali: your ethernet card is recognized? Can you see eth0?
[06:23] <highlander_> how can i install kubuntu or ubuntu in my telephon?
[06:24] <MidMark> if yes just configure it via system-settings->network
[06:26] <amigrave> if I want to convert a ubuntu installation to kubuntu, all I have to do is to install the package kubuntu-desktop or is not as easy ?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all you ahve to do
[06:26] <amigrave> cool
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> and select kde when you start up
[06:27] <murali> MidMark: well,it does show eth0.. but i'm a little lost here.. i've an inbuilt NIC which doesn work and the other is the external.. i've a dual boot system with windows n the net seems to work jus fine on windows.. but i'm facing problems on kubuntu.. do u think it mite be a driver prob?
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> so there's one tiny extra step, no problem though
[06:27] <amigrave> and will kdm be used or gdm  ?
[06:27] <RytmenPinnen> what exactly I supposed to write in the "command" for making a shortcut to steam
[06:27] <MidMark> murali: no if you see eth0 then as said go to system settings->network and configure it, that's all
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i *think* it still uses gdm, i'm not 100% on that though
[06:27] <RytmenPinnen> right now I have wine /home/alex/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe but that doesnt work
[06:28] <amigrave> Daisuke_Ido: I guess it can be changed in /etc/default  ?
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> put the path in quotes
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> amigrave: i would imagine
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> RytmenPinnen: wine "/home/alex/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/Steam.exe"
[06:28] <MidMark> amigrave: there is a problem with kubuntu+gdm->you will have only end session and not reboot, halt ecc.
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> it sees the space between program and files
[06:29] <MidMark> this is just fixed and will reach updates soon I hope
[06:29] <|ericsson|> omg, now I'm lost again...can't backup complete dir...
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> amigrave: so apt-get install kdm
[06:29] <RytmenPinnen> aha thanks
[06:29] <|ericsson|> sudo tar -g /var/log/tar-incremental.log -zcvf /backup/backedup_file.tar.gz /home/ericsson/folder_to_backup/   <--- Wouldn't that do the whole folder_to_backup (including files)?
[06:30] <holgi> does anyone know ho to active search input field in the kde search menu or is this just a special suse feature
[06:30] <murali> MidMark:i did tht and it still doesnt work... is there something else needed jus cuz the server is runnin windows on it??
[06:32] <MidMark> what doesn't work? Internet? give more infos
[06:32] <amigrave> Daisuke_Ido: MidMark : Thanks all.
[06:32] <RytmenPinnen> Daisuke_Ido: I'm getting a error now when using the shortcut but starting the good old "cd into directory way" still works
[06:33] <RytmenPinnen> do I need a workpath maby?
[06:34] <faust> hi, anyone knows how to type ESC key using ascii or unicode? my keyboard isnt typing somekeys but i dont know how to type them using something like alt+code
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !sound
[06:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> RytmenPinnen: the other option is to put \ after program (Program\ Files)
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> at least, i think that should works
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> *-s
[06:36] <murali> MidMark:i cannot even ping other computers on the network,let alone havin internet access
[06:37] <jesusiyo> #kubuntu-es
[06:37] <MidMark> murali: if dhcp doesn't work try to set manually ip, netmask and gateway
[06:44] <bonaldo2000> Does anyone have any ideas as to why my vlc player garbles the sound of some .avi files? Kaffeine plays the same files fine...
[06:47] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:47] <radiohullu> hi all
[06:47] <_Johny> radiohullu, HI
[06:48] <radiohullu> howto install Kubuntu 7.04 from commandline (old way) not inside kde?
[06:48] <_Johny> Hello... I'd need the default bash.rc config file, because maine just dissapeared. Anyone could help?
[06:48] <korobase> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC....
[06:49] <korobase> Help me.all.
[06:49] <korobase> How to fix this bug?
[06:49] <amigrave> heard of the rumour about dell shipping pc's preinstalled with ubuntu ?
[06:49] <korobase> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC....
[06:49] <_Johny> amigrave, Have you?
[06:49] <korobase> How to fix this bug?
[06:50] <radiohullu> howto install Kubuntu 7.04 from commandline (old way) not inside kde? is there old fashion way to install kubuntu? anyone?!
[06:50] <fdoving> radiohullu: yes there is, the alternate cd/iso does that.
[06:50] <amigrave> _Johny: well I call it rumours : http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html
[06:51] <korobase> Any one can help me?
[06:51] <highlander_> como puedo instalar Kubuntu o ubuntu en mi telefono movil?
[06:51] <fdoving> radiohullu: oem cd? the alternate installer cd.
[06:52] <amigrave> but if it turns out to be true, it would be cool that both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop being installed, so people can discover kde out of the box when shipping their ubuntu pc
[06:52] <wirelessmonkey> korobase: what do you need?
[06:52] <_Johny> amigrave, Couldn't it be possible - Ubuntu is the most used Linux ditro. And If I were in Dell I'd seriously think about putting it on the line...
[06:54] <amigrave> _Johny: I know, I'm just saying that if ubuntu was installed on those pc's, if kubuntu-desktop was installed too, people would have the choice to discover kde when selcting it when starting their session
[06:55] <wirelessmonkey> I'm with you on that one amigrave
[06:55] <wirelessmonkey> gnome for the less-saavy new users, for ease.
[06:56] <_Johny> amigrave, I'd prefer to say , It's more important they get to know the power of Linux at all, but I do know, on the other hand It'd be rather impossible without a powerful desktop
[06:57] <tom_> hey im having a problem, when compiz/beryl is enabled, my window contents dont seem to refresh (e.g. the progress bar stops moving, but the title still changes so i know its still working)
[06:58] <_Johny> Can anyone just paste me the default config of the bash.rc file?
[06:59] <NightBird> _Johny, if you want to restore your bash.rc file, couldn't you just reconfigure?
[06:59] <sdf> hi
[06:59] <NightBird> hi
[06:59] <scast> NightBird: he probably just deleted it.
[06:59] <wirelessmonkey> hi
[07:00] <sdf> how can i change splashscreen in ubuntu?
[07:00] <_Johny> NightBird, I could If i know how - I've already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash"...
[07:00] <NightBird> scast, yes, wouldn't a reconfigure restore it?
[07:00] <scast> Apparently not.
[07:00] <NightBird> _Johny, hm....
[07:00] <_Johny> sdf, !google
[07:00] <sdf> splash screens
[07:00] <NightBird> what about removing then reinstalling it?
[07:00] <sdf> please johny
[07:01] <_Johny> ...
[07:01] <_Johny> NightBird, You mean removing the entire shell and then reinstalling?
[07:01] <sdf> this room for help for ubuntu??
[07:01] <tom_> an
[07:01] <sdf> right?
[07:01] <NightBird> sdf, this is a room for help with kubuntu, yes...
[07:02] <wirelessmonkey> sdf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-860336ddfd132cb25712427a8c583398cee6fd96
[07:02] <NightBird> _Johny, I don't know.... I would think that reconfiguring would set it up...
[07:02] <sdf> i want to know how can i change splash screens??
[07:02] <pdallago> i just installed kubuntu feisty
[07:02] <wirelessmonkey> congratulations
[07:02] <wirelessmonkey> hope you like it pdallago
[07:02] <pdallago> everything was working fine, until i had to reset the machine
[07:03] <NightBird> sdf, in the system settings
[07:03] <NightBird> there should be a splash screen section
[07:03] <pdallago> now I'm stuck with a resolution of 640x480
[07:03] <sdf> in ubuntu??
[07:03] <pdallago> it seems like something screwed up my xorg.conf
[07:03] <pdallago> I think can fix it myself, but I'm wondering why this happened
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> you know, i wonder...  the people that have issues with the OS come here for help, it makes me wonder how many people are out there using it with no problems
[07:04] <sdf> nightbird: how can i do it in ubuntu?
[07:04] <NightBird> pdallago, did you install your video card drivers before the restart?
[07:04] <NightBird> sdf, have you tried asking in #ubuntu?
[07:04] <highlander_> como puedo instalar linux en mi celular?
[07:04] <sdf> ok
[07:04] <NightBird> I know that kubuntu has it in the system settings task pane
[07:04] <pdallago> NightBird: no, but it was working when i first logged in
[07:04] <NightBird> hm...
[07:04] <pdallago> NightBird: the only thing I did is change the default resolution
[07:05] <wirelessmonkey> pdallago: what video card? Do you have the drivers installed?  It can happen if the driver module changed.
[07:05] <NightBird> yeah, I know my drivers when they installed did an auto detect then chose the worst setting for my setup
[07:05] <pdallago> wirelessmonkey: i have an ATI. How could the driver change after installation if I didn't install any new packets?
[07:05] <NightBird> I had to go in and fix that
[07:06] <aaroncampbell> What is a java app that should be able to print?  I'm trying to track down a printing problem in Zend Studio, and I'd like to try printing from another java-based app.  I have eclipse, but they are telling me that the version Kubuntu has doesn't print
[07:06] <aaroncampbell> Are there any java-based office applications?  Or text editors?
[07:06] <wirelessmonkey> pdallago: did you install the flgrx driver, or leave with the default?
[07:06] <aaroncampbell> that are in the repositories?
[07:06] <sdlnxgk> how can you tell if your SLI video cards are working??
[07:06] <pdallago> wirelessmonkey: I was using the default driver, which worked fine after the installation
[07:06] <stoft> aaroncampbell: jedit maybe? text editor made in java
[07:07] <NightBird> aaroncampbell, like OpenOffice?  Though I think Open Office is more of a system that makes use of Java, and isn't based off of it...
[07:08] <radiohullu> thank you for all helping, bye
[07:08] <aaroncampbell> NightBird: I thought of Open Office, but when you run it, ps aux | grep -i java doesn't show it, so I don't think that's what I'm looking for
[07:09] <NightBird> ok
[07:09] <wirelessmonkey> pdallago: you win the weird award... does your xorg.conf have other available resolutions? I've found that the dpkg reconfigure often hoses my nvidia setup. I'm afraid I'm at a loss.
[07:10] <pdallago> wirelessmonkey: no, it seems all the other modelines have gone away
[07:10] <pdallago> i have just checked and I don't have direct rendering enabled
[07:10] <pdallago> so I'm not exactly sure what drivers I'm using
[07:10] <pdallago> but according to the X log file, it should be the RADEON driver
[07:11] <ghost07> Hello
[07:11] <ghost07> How eveeryone.
[07:11] <ghost07> How do I jump to another channel?
[07:11] <ghost07> I want to go to #ubuntu-bugs
[07:12] <holycow> type in /join #ubuntu-bugs
[07:12] <NightBird> /join #otherchannel?
[07:12] <ghost07> thank you holy cow. :)
[07:12] <wirelessmonkey> pdallago: in xorg.conf section "device" should have Identifier and Driver
[07:12] <pdallago> wirelessmonkey: yes, i have driver "ati" in there
[07:14] <aaroncampbell> stoft: I don't see jedit in the repos.  I see jed, but that doesn't seem to be java based
[07:15] <sdlnxgk> pdallago, have you tried to use envy??
[07:15] <sdlnxgk> I love it works great every time..
[07:15] <pdallago> sdlnxgk: what's that?
[07:16] <yurimxpxman> how can I assign the multimedia keys for use with Amarok?
[07:16] <stoft> aaroncampbell: your right, neither do I. thought it would be there. they have debs at their site: http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download
[07:17] <sdlnxgk> it's an installer for nvidia and ati drivers
[07:17] <pdallago> sdlnxgk: I'd rather not use that kind of stuff, since it means trouble when upgrading later
[07:17] <amigrave> _Johny: seems not to be a rumor afterall : http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx
[07:17] <pdallago> I have a bunch of lines like this in my Xorg.0.log
[07:17] <pdallago> (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (width too large for virtual size)
[07:17] <pdallago> so it seems the virtual size is the problem
[07:18] <sdlnxgk> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:18] <sdlnxgk> pdallago, what do you mean???
[07:18] <sdlnxgk> pdallago, i upgrade just fine using it..
[07:19] <sdlnxgk> I just dropped into a shell after installing then restarted xserver and BAM was up and running in two mins
[07:19] <RytmenPinnen> is there a way to request package update for the adept servers? ardour has just release version 2.0
[07:20] <pdallago> sdlnxgk: you know how automatix or easyubuntu mess with your system? I was thinking this was similar
[07:20] <sdlnxgk> nope
[07:20] <pdallago> sdlnxgk: but I'll take a look later
[07:20] <sdlnxgk> pdallago, when you want to upgrade just clear the drivers from menu
[07:21] <sdlnxgk> pdallago, then upgrade and rerun envy :)
[07:21] <pdallago> mmh, I think I know why X is screwing things up
[07:21] <pdallago> my video card has a tv output, which doesn't handle more than 640x480
[07:22] <aaroncampbell> If I need to have java set up on my system (to run a couple applications), which one should I get from the repos?  It seems like there are multiple options?
[07:22] <pdallago> so maybe that's why it doesn't let me use more than that
[07:23] <pdallago> (even though I'm currently using a monitor)
[07:24] <holycow> aaroncampbell, latest one, java6
[07:24] <holycow> and you probable want the jre (java runtime envrionment)
[07:24] <aaroncampbell> holycow: So use SUN?
[07:24] <aaroncampbell> vs blackdown
[07:25] <holycow> java is now gpld, no reason to use blackdown anymore (or soon will be or something like that)
[07:25] <holycow> thus, yes
[07:26] <jesusiyo> #kubuntu-es
[07:27] <sdlnxgk> anyone using SLI mode??
[07:27] <aaroncampbell> thanks holycow, that's exactly what I needed
[07:30] <jesusiyo> how install wine and universe
[07:34] <stoft> jesusiyo: by universe do you mean the universe repository?
[07:34] <holycow> aaroncampbell, 'welcome
[07:34] <stoft> !es
[07:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:35] <highlander_> hola a todos
[07:38] <RytmenPinnen> Will I need -dev of requiered libs to compile stuff
[07:39] <RytmenPinnen> I'm gonna try to compile ardour 2.0.... it doesnt say anywhere that i need them but for compileing the older versions it said i needed them
[07:42] <stoft> RytmenPinnen: probably yes.
[07:42] <RytmenPinnen> k
[07:46] <shampoonator> hi, can i someone set the montitor hz / reslotution in the xorg.conf?
[07:47] <RytmenPinnen> shampoonator:  you got that annoying resolution when activating nvidia drivers problem?
[07:48] <shampoonator> RytmenPinnen.. well now that you mention it.. i activated nvidia drivers yes oO
[07:48] <RytmenPinnen> and you're stuck on low resolution?
[07:48] <micha_> hi
[07:49] <RytmenPinnen> try following this
[07:49] <shampoonator> now im stuck at low hz
[07:49] <RytmenPinnen> !fixres
[07:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <highlander_> hola
[07:50] <RytmenPinnen> I had the exact same problem yesterday, I didnt manage to fix the problem but today everything just works for some reason
[07:50] <shampoonator> thx.. ill be back
[07:51] <highlander_> necesi que alguien me pueda decir como instalar kubuntu en mi telefono movil
[07:51] <pablin29> help hp laserjet 1020 how to
[07:51] <pablin29> in feisty fawn 7.04
[07:53] <pablin29> help please
[07:53] <pablin29> hp laserjet 1020 configuration
[07:55] <highlander_> cual es la direccion de irc en Managua,Nicaragua?
[07:56] <stoft> !es | highlander_
[07:56] <ubotu> highlander_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:58] <redfive> anyone know where i can get good widgets for KDE?
[08:00] <roguejedix> Er, could someone tell me why my nvidia drivers won't enable?
[08:00] <redfive> i had to download the ones on the nvidia site and install them
[08:01] <roguejedix> Is it hard?
[08:01] <emonkey> which kernel should be taken with an AMD sempron?
[08:01] <redfive> nope
[08:01] <highlander_> gracias
[08:01] <redfive> amd64?
[08:01] <highlander_> nos vemos
[08:01] <emonkey> no
[08:02] <redfive> still amd
[08:02] <RytmenPinnen> arent sempron 64bits? or am I wrong
[08:02] <redfive> should be
[08:02] <emonkey> hmm
[08:02] <reagleBRKLN> does kpowersave have a dcop interface? I want to crontab a suspand to ram at midnight
[08:02] <redfive> you will probebly have to recompile after the fact
[08:02] <pdallago> I found the culprit for my problem
[08:02] <emonkey> model name      : AMD Sempron(tm)   2400+
[08:02] <redfive> get the headers and enable the sempron arch
[08:03] <RytmenPinnen> isnt it possible to use the regular kernel that well, I use :P
[08:03] <RytmenPinnen> (im no expert and I dont really know what im talking about) :D
[08:03] <pablin29> hp laserjet 1020 help
[08:03] <stoft> pdallago: what was it?
[08:03] <pdallago> the Monitor & Display settings in the kde configuration panel is messing my xorg.conf
[08:03] <redfive> use the amd64 kernel
[08:03] <shampoonator> RytmenPinnen:  thx this         Option "UseEdidFreqs" "no"  seems to work
[08:03] <pdallago> It changes the virtual size back to "640 480" so I cannot get resolutions bigger than that
[08:04] <pdallago> is there any way I can restore the original xorg.conf I had after installation?
[08:04] <shampoonator> pdallago:  yeah the kde kontroll center is bullshit
[08:04] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: open "kdcop" and explore the dcop interface of all apps that have one
[08:04] <pdallago> shampoonator: actually, I'm using the kubuntu one
[08:04] <roguejedix> redfive: You wouldn't happen to know if GeForce2 is still suported by the very latest drivers, would you?
[08:04] <reagleBRKLN> stoft: cool, thanks
[08:04] <RytmenPinnen> I'm glad you got out of what mess, I was utterly frustrated yesterday when I was locked on 640x480 reolution its extreemly hard to google or do anything with that resu
[08:05] <redfive> roguejedix: its not, you need the legacy drivers
[08:05] <shampoonator> pdallago:  well that one is not really better :)
[08:05] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: power-manager has a suspend dcop method (command?)
[08:05] <redfive> you need the legacy for anything GF 5200 nad below i believe
[08:05] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: not sure if it's suspend to RAM.
[08:05] <shampoonator> ha nice..
[08:05] <shampoonator> now i just wait till my headache is gone g*
[08:05] <roguejedix> redfive: Thanks
[08:05] <redfive> sure
[08:05] <bobby> hello I have a question
[08:05] <redfive> if you download the ones off the nvidia side and put them in your home dir
[08:06] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: the really cool thing with dcop is coupling e.g. kalarm to amarok to play a certain song at a certain time :)
[08:06] <nuu> anybody running KDE on a sony vaio ?
[08:06] <stoft> !ask | bobby
[08:06] <ubotu> bobby: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:07] <gost87> ubuntu-net
[08:07] <bobby> I just upgrade kubuntu to fiesty now my hpfs/nfts is not reabable
[08:07] <redfive> thi is how I did it, hit ctrl + ald + F1 and log in as root, then do /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then go the place you downloaded the driver and do sh NVIDIA(shatever the filenae is)
[08:07] <bobby> external hard drive
[08:07] <stoft> !ntfs | bobby
[08:07] <ubotu> bobby: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:07] <redfive> is should ask your to update the xorg.conf
[08:07] <stoft> !ntfs-3g|bobby
[08:07] <ubotu> bobby: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:07] <redfive> then do /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:07] <shampoonator> i like stoft.. i want my own
[08:08] <shampoonator> oh well
[08:08] <shampoonator> i like the bot ><
[08:08] <roguejedix> redfive: Okay, got it written down. Thanks again
[08:08] <shampoonator> s/stoft/ubotu/ ....
[08:08] <reagleBRKLN> this did it `dcop kpowersave KPowersaveIface do_suspendToRAM`
[08:08] <redfive> sure
[08:08] <reagleBRKLN> i'll make that a midnight kalarm
[08:08] <stoft> bobby: check your fstab to see if the umask is setting ownership/readonly etc. to root
[08:09] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: nice :)
[08:09] <shampoonator> well cya folks
[08:09] <roguejedix> redfive: What about the drivers I downloaded via apt? Should I remove them?
[08:09] <stoft> reagleBRKLN: a cronjob would of course do that even if kde isn't running, but that might not be an issue
[08:09] <reagleBRKLN> stoft: uh-huh, but i'm always logged in
[08:10] <stoft> yay, I was mistaken for the bot for a moment, I failed the turing test...
[08:10] <nuu> stoft ;)
[08:10] <redfive> roguejedix, i never used them, if they have a legacy package for you GF 2 they might work
[08:11] <redfive> roguejedix, BTW i still have my GF2 and it runs kubuntu great!
[08:11] <stoft> !turing
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <mahdi> or passed, if you prefer being a robot
[08:11] <roguejedix> redfive: Yeah, mine should too. Now that I've downgraded to Edgy it just went on strike, though
[08:13] <redfive> i loved my FG2 Ti
[08:13] <redfive> thers guys thay wont give up thire FG4 still
[08:14] <roguejedix> redfive: Okay, gotta restart X. I hope I see that nvidia logo soon
[08:16] <skudkiller> bonjour, une aide pour faire marcher sdcard integrer a un portable zd7000 sur feisty ?
[08:17] <heinkel_111> !fr | skudkiller
[08:17] <ubotu> skudkiller: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:17] <skudkiller> ok
[08:18] <mahdi> au revoir, bon chance avec ca problem.
[08:18] <MukiEX> As someone who tried gnome ubuntu (but really prefers KDE to gnome), I just wanna suggest the inclusion of Ubuntu's default DEB opener, or the default installation of any similar KDE tool.
[08:19] <MukiEX> Its ability to install deb packages, and access apt for any missing dependencies automatically, is gold. =3
[08:22] <mahdi> anyone know if/when the kubuntu.org repo will be up for fiesty?
[08:23] <|ericsson|> I don't know what to make of this, sometimes I get 800x600 resolution after boot, sometimes 1024 and sometimes 1280. Any ideas as to why?
[08:24] <raylu> Care pastbinning your xorg.conf?
[08:24] <|ericsson|> Almost like screenresolution=random@boot ;)
[08:24] <|ericsson|> !paste
[08:24] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Have you checked your xorg.conf each time?
[08:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:24] <raylu> model of monitor would help too
[08:25] <|ericsson|> chemist109: yeah, checked log as well..
[08:25] <wallen> hi all, knetwork manager isn't managing my wireless cards, anyone else having this problem?
[08:25] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Are you using DPMS to detect monitor settings?  'Cause I'll bet that it's getting bad info on some boots.
[08:25] <|ericsson|> Can take a while to paste, only got 800 resolution now ;)
[08:26] <|ericsson|> chemist109: it said it's on, but I'm not sure it's working
[08:26] <kjackson> How can I list items alphabetically in kmenu?
[08:27] <chemist109> |ericsson|: I'll bet it clears up if you set the monitor timings manually.
[08:27] <wallen> is anyone else having a huge slow down in X.org on boot?
[08:27] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Just be careful!  You can fry a monitor that way.
[08:28] <|ericsson|> chemist109: I tried setting v- & h-sync earlier but didn't work that well :)
[08:28] <roguejedix> redfive: Worked like a charm
[08:28] <kory_> wallen: I had to remove knetworkmanager to get wireless to work... uses a new backend which doesn't support my Linksys WMP54G (ralink rt2500)
[08:28] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Well, that was what I suggested, so there goes that idea.
[08:29] <|ericsson|> Ok, this would be the general .conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18646/
[08:29] <wallen> kory_ thanks you, I have the same card, is rutilt working for you now?
[08:29] <chemist109> |ericsson|: You commented out the DPMS line when you set v and h?
[08:29] <kory_> wallen: a ralink chip might slow down boot due to loadind extra unneeded drivers
[08:29] <|ericsson|> Since it's an old TNT2 card in this, I've loaded the older drivers obviously
[08:29] <facugaich> How do I set refresh rates in xorg,conf?
[08:30] <wallen> kory_ no, that's not it, when I use the vesa driver it's fine, the via driver makes a process called "events" soar to using 97% of my cpu
[08:30] <|ericsson|> chemist109: no, didn't comment out
[08:31] <kory_> wallen: just did it at cli with iwconfig... my desktop doesn't roam networks anyway
[08:31] <chemist109> |ericsson|: you might try that, no guarantee
[08:31] <wallen> kory_ sure do it the old fashion way!
[08:31] <|ericsson|> It's just rather odd that I get random resolutions...I bet if I reboot now, then I'll get either 1024 or 1280 :)
[08:31] <MajorApus> are we alloud to talk about things like playing mp3s (technically illegal) and/or stealing said mp3s?
[08:31] <chemist109> facugaich: You must be very careful doing that.  Here's a link to an Ubuntu tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[08:32] <raylu> MajorApus, no, and
[08:32] <kory_> wallen: way that actually works :) ... wish knetworkmanager worked for my notebook, still a little ways to go, I guess
[08:32] <wallen> does anyone in here have a via unichrome video chip?
[08:32] <raylu> I believe playinig MP3s legality issue is only in some countries
[08:32] <wallen> kory_ yah, that's weird
[08:32] <raylu> *yes, you are allowed to talk about them
[08:32] <|ericsson|> !mp3
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:32] <aleksanteri> !kdm
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <aleksanteri> ...
[08:32] <wallen> on first boot it worked, and then after ther it disappeared
[08:32] <aleksanteri> what app to use to install a kdm theme?
[08:33] <raylu> !kde | aleksanteri
[08:33] <ubotu> aleksanteri: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[08:33] <wallen> aleksanteri, kcontrol
[08:33] <MajorApus> yes and playing HD DVDs is only a legality issue in some countries as well
[08:33] <aleksanteri> raylu: kde != kdm :P
[08:33] <aleksanteri> wallen: k i'll take a deeper look then
[08:33] <raylu> yeah, but !kdm doesn't work :P
[08:34] <wallen> aleksanteri, look in system
[08:34] <kory_> aleksanteri: you can go to System Settings -> Appearance -> KDM Themes... but it doesn't have an Admin button... can use 'kdesu systemsettings'
[08:34] <wallen> kory_ just use kcontrol and you get the old interface
[08:34] <wallen> (which is better)
[08:35] <kory_> wallen: yeah, much prefer kcontrol, but I don't see KDM... ?
[08:35] <MajorApus> so where can I go to talk about said illegal activities
[08:35] <|ericsson|> This is one of the latest entries in /var/log/Xorg.0.log -> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[08:36] <Dakoki> hi!
[08:36] <Dakoki> i have some problems on boot
[08:36] <kory_> oh, nm... under Sys Admin
[08:36] <Dakoki> it stops at powernow
[08:36] <Dakoki> i am in sqafe mode
[08:36] <wallen> yup, system administration
[08:36] <Dakoki> someone can helme?
[08:36] <aleksanteri> kory_: thx that worked :P
[08:36] <raylu> What do I do if I want the old wlanmanager?
[08:36] <kory_> and it does have an Admin button... I keep forgetting how much I don't like systemsettings
[08:36] <malik__> can some one tell me how to do batch resize in Krita?
[08:37] <raylu> malik__, have you tried the krita documentation?
[08:37] <wallen> kory_ system settings is a pain
[08:37] <wallen> but if you want simple you have it
[08:37] <Tired_> How does one troubleshoot a complete system freeze in Kubuntu?
[08:38] <Tired_> Like, mouse and keyboard do nothing, ssh stops working, tota freeze
[08:38] <raylu> Tired_, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:38] <kory_> wallen: changes every release, never has all the options, missing Admin buttons (for me, at least)
[08:38] <Tired_> That will tell me why it froze and make it not freeze again?
[08:38] <wallen> kory_ yah
[08:38] <pdallago> kory_: I agree
[08:38] <raylu> Tired_, no, that will give you a console that you can work in :D
[08:38] <Dakoki> it stops at starting powernowd i have restored my old xconf and the problem persist
[08:38] <wallen> well, I just wished they'd stop screwing with konquerors menus...
[08:38] <juhis> hi all
[08:38] <raylu> no such thing as a magic butotn, sorry :P
[08:39] <Tired_> Oh, and that does nothing when its frozen, nor does SSHing in from a remote machine (and existing ssh sessions freeze also)
[08:39] <raylu> !hi | juhis
[08:39] <wallen> Dakoki, what stops at powernowd?
[08:39] <wallen> book?
[08:39] <ubotu> juhis: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:39] <wallen> err, boot?
[08:39] <Dakoki> virtualbox
[08:39] <malik__> raylu: i cudnt see anything regarding batch resizing in the krita handbook..........may be its called something else.......any help pointing me in right direction?
[08:39] <|ericsson|> H:37.8KHz V:60.2Hz works but still only a 800x600 resolution
[08:39] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Are your nvidia drivers working?
[08:39] <Dakoki> i tont know what goes next
[08:39] <Tired_> it's not an X lockup, the whole system freezes
[08:39] <raylu> Sorry, never tried Krita before, malik__
[08:39] <Dakoki> i have tried to unistall it but i cant
[08:39] <juhis> just installed kubuntu 7.02, only problem is that konqueror dont surf in internet, still network is ok
[08:40] <raylu> Tired_, have you tried the system log?
[08:40] <|ericsson|> chemist109: I'm not sure anymore, as I said: I get the right (1280) sometimes :)
[08:40] <wallen> Dakoki, ah, sorry, never have used that
[08:40] <Tired_> yeah...right before each freeze, there's an error about networkmanager...
[08:40] <raylu> What do I do if I want the old wlanmanager?
[08:40] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Maybe the video card is dying...
[08:40] <Graham> What options can I use when mounting a samba share so that I have full read/write access to the share?
[08:40] <Tired_> something like "<WARNING>^I nm_dbus_get_networks_cb (): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks"
[08:40] <|ericsson|> chemist109: starting to suspect
[08:40] <Dakoki> but how i can edit the batch start to modify it
[08:40] <raylu> Tired_, not sure there. I like the look and feel of the new network manager, but...it doesn't work :P
[08:41] <Tired_> i don't use it at all
[08:41] <|ericsson|> chemist109: apt-get install new-video-card-from-wall-mart <--- would that work?
[08:41] <Tired_> plain old wired ethernet with static IP over here
[08:41] <romain_> I' have a problem with internet. Someone could help me ?
[08:41] <raylu> !question | romain_
[08:41] <ubotu> romain_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:41] <romain_> ok
[08:41] <juhis> my konqueror net surfing dont work, still i can be here in irc ...
[08:41] <pdallago> why can't I run adept_installer from my KDE menu?
[08:41] <wallen> well, it doesn't look like anyone has had my problems with X.org - I'm off to file a bug
[08:42] <chemist109> |ericsson|: Negative.  You must use: visa apt-get install new-video-card-from-wall-mart
[08:42] <raylu> Tired_, I suppose you could uninstall it...
[08:42] <|ericsson|> chemist109: didn't think of that ;)
[08:42] <Tired_> Google found a link about this error, saying it caused freezes in Feisty with certain wireless cards, but I have no wireless
[08:42] <Tired_> Oh.  I thought it was part of KDE
[08:42] <raylu> tire
[08:42] <romain_> so ican connect to this chat but with konqueror i 'have a message who says that it coud'nt connect to host
[08:42] <raylu> Tired_, it comes with KDE (I think), but I also think it can be uninstalled
[08:43] <romain_> (I'm french)
[08:43] <Tired_> well, we're about to find out  :)
[08:43] <|ericsson|> romain_: are you behind a firewall/proxy?
[08:43] <nuu> romain_: could it be the website you're visiting is down ?
[08:43] <nuu> or that you have a proxy setup ?
[08:43] <raylu> romain_, 1. try a different web browser 2. #kubuntu-fr 3. try a different website :P
[08:43] <|ericsson|> 4: use firefox :)
[08:43] <malik__> can any one tell me if gimp is better option for photo editing or Krita?
[08:43] <raylu> that would be 1
[08:44] <|ericsson|> raylu: firefox is not a different browser, it's THE browser ;)
[08:44] <romain_> yes i' think that i will install firefox, i'have isntall it on windows and i love it !
[08:44] <raylu> haha. ok
[08:44] <raylu> oh, wait a sec malik__, try the convert command line tool
[08:45] <raylu> I used that once and I know it takes multiple filenames... just hope it supports wildcards or you'll have to type it all in
[08:45] <romain_> nuu: i tried to connect to google so i think that the problem isn't the website
[08:45] <Tired_> I noticed they're running Kubuntu at the public internet terminals at my local library now...was nice to see.  :)
[08:46] <|ericsson|> Tired_: getting more (k)ubuntu users due to release of Windows Vista
[08:46] <Tired_> users is one thing, but the library reaches tons of people, and it says kubuntu right on it in big letters
[08:46] <yung_> I can't sound work with konqueror in kubuntu 7.04... anybody has same problem?
[08:46] <romain_> thank you very much all, goog bye and long life to kubuntu !
[08:47] <yung_> I mean with flash..
[08:47] <Tired_> I have a quirk with sound in Feisty in Konq...I have to turn the volume up or down once before it'll work.
[08:47] <juhis> why i cant surf with konqueror?
[08:48] <|ericsson|> juhis: check if tools->html settings->enable proxy is active
[08:48] <Tired_> ... I removed networkmanager, but it's still there
[08:48] <yung_> It seems like alsa doesn't work in KDE,  then how can I get the sound working with flash player..
[08:48] <juhis> ok, will check that
[08:49] <Tired_> do I need to reboot to make it realize that the package is gone and shouldn't be running?
[08:49] <|ericsson|> Tired_: should do with sudo apt-get update
[08:50] <|ericsson|> I'll reboot and pray for a 800x600 resolution or higher...
[08:50] <juhis> no proxy in settings, maybe some bug in crappy kde
[08:50] <juhis> network works begause i can irc
[08:50] <raylu> juhis, I think the question was meant to find out if you have a proxy
[08:51] <juhis> no i dont have proxy
[08:51] <Tired_> It there a 'best practices' guideline for how often its polite to do apt-get update?
[08:51] <juhis> network works, but cant use konqueror for surfing
[08:51] <Tired_> i recall the gentoo servers preferred if you limited it to once a day
[08:51] <Ashex|srv> I really need to build myself a server
[08:51] <roguejedix> Tired_: None that I know of
[08:51] <Ashex|srv> I use my main desktop to stream music and movies and as a terminal server
[08:52] <raylu> Tired_, gentoo sync approaches 200mb
[08:52] <Ashex|srv> and I'm going to setup mysql on it too :/
[08:52] <Tired_> so I can cron it up for every six hours with nobody getting mad?
[08:52] <raylu> apt update is much less
[08:52] <malik__> raylu: i can do that with gwenview after i think i installed imagemagick or krita but i want to be able to do all the tasks with one program..........
[08:52] <raylu> Tired_, I'm not sure how the adept notifier works, but I think it'll check for you
[08:53] <roguejedix> Tired_: You don't need to. That's why adept_upddater is for
[08:53] <Tired_> i don't like adept...i prefer apt-get
[08:53] <raylu> malik__, meh...can't help you there then
[08:54] <|ericsson|> Can gladly announce the randomized resolution of 1280x1024 this time :)
[08:54] <Tired_> Yay!
[08:54] <juhis> where is mozilla firefox in just intalled kubuntun 7.02?
[08:54] <|ericsson|> It's more exciting this way...
[08:55] <|ericsson|> juhis: meny -> internet -> firefox
[08:55] <Tired_> I had to go fetch Firefox from the repository
[08:55] <Tired_> wasn't hard though
[08:55] <juhis> no its not there
[08:55] <Black_Cat> there was no firefox in Dapper Drake...
[08:55] <Tired_> oh, sorry
[08:55] <Black_Cat> maybe it's not in there too
[08:55] <Tm_T> !fi | juhis
[08:55] <ubotu> juhis: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:55] <juhis> normal reposity?
[08:56] <Tired_> sorry, i'm on feisty, I hadn't noticed your version...i dunno where it is there
[08:56] <Tired_> it must be in a normal repo in feisty though, since it was the first thing I did after install
[08:56] <|ericsson|> If I remember it was a little bit of hassle to get ff in pre-dapper
[08:57] <|ericsson|> Am I the only one who always calls it diaper? ;)
[08:57] <Tired_> i don't call it anything...i've only used feisty
[08:57] <Tired_> which I love
[08:58] <|ericsson|> feisty conquers well
[08:58] <Tired_> i'm amazed at how easy the migrate was.  i haven't had to use windows once since I installed
[08:59] <stoft> but that's more because of the apps than the operating system
[08:59] <roguejedix> I'm ashamed to say, I have. I still play games there. I'm weak T_T
[08:59] <Black_Cat> and i had to, 'coz my CD refuses to work under linux, though it is well supported by win32
[08:59] <juhis> windows is only for games
[09:00] <roguejedix> Yeah, but that's about it, really
[09:00] <stoft> the only exception is this one bank site that just won't work under linux (haven't tried wine)
[09:00] <Black_Cat> roguejedix, it's okay :)
[09:00] <mahdi> if i can't run it through wine then i just don't play it, got dawn of war running
[09:01] <roguejedix> Gotta give props to companies like iD that actually make their games cross-platform
[09:02] <Black_Cat> damn, i've accidentally killed Taskbar by Ctrl-Alt-Esc, how do i bring it back? help please :)
[09:03] <mahdi> Black_Cat: kcontrol > desktop > panels
[09:04] <Black_Cat> mahdi, and then?
[09:05] <mahdi> just guessing, never killed a panel before. you missing the kicker too?
[09:06] <Black_Cat> the panel itself has disappeared, from KMenu to Clock :)
[09:08] <bernd> #kubuntu-ger
[09:08] <Black_Cat> oh! fixed :) AltF2 - kicker :) thanks for the idea :)
[09:08] <mahdi> neat
[09:10] <roguejedix> !ntfs
[09:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:11] <roguejedix> What the hell is "fuse"?
[09:11] <mc__> !fuse
[09:11] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:11] <mc__> fuse=Filsystem in User Space
[09:12] <roguejedix> Oh. But anything unsafe doesn't sit well with me, so I'll pass
[09:12] <roguejedix> !ntfs-3g
[09:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:15] <MukiEX> ntfs-3g + ntfs-config = win
[09:16] <|ericsson|> Is there anyway to change the default 15 min time-out for "sudo" and shorten it?
[09:16] <romain_> i'have dowload firefox but i don't know how to install it
[09:16] <MukiEX> You could always close the terminal window ;)
[09:16] <|ericsson|> MukiEX: ;)
[09:16] <MukiEX> Or is the main issue using it in a GKT context?
[09:16] <MukiEX> well, gui
[09:17] <romain_> the name of the fiel is firefox-2.0.0.3.tar.gz
[09:17] <MukiEX> http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=385&pageid=486 Nvidia needs to add Linux support for this stuff
[09:17] <Tm_T> romain_: err, why not install it thru adept?
[09:17] <|ericsson|> sudo in general since some power-users tends to forget their tty's open, it's just me being picky and shorthen the time
[09:18] <Tm_T> |ericsson|: nothing sudo related in /etc/ ?
[09:18] <romain_> Tm_T: what is thru adept (i'm french)
[09:18] <Tm_T> romain_: I mean don't download from website, use systemtools
[09:18] <Tm_T> !firefox
[09:18] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:19] <Tm_T> hmm
[09:19] <|ericsson|> Tm_T: I would have thougt sudoes, but nothing there..
[09:19] <Tm_T> I wonder what' there
[09:19] <romain_> Tm_T: i tried but firefox is grey and i can't clic on it
[09:19] <redfive> roguejedix: did it work?
[09:19] <roguejedix> redfive: Yup. glxgears working and everything. Thanks for the help
[09:20] <romain_> Tm_T: how to install firefox with adept ?
[09:20] <wsjunior> is tv-out supposed to work with ati xpress 200m using fglrx?!
[09:20] <redfive> roguejedix: i like your nick
[09:20] <redfive> i usualy name mu workgroup or domain here at home roguesquadren
[09:20] <redfive> and all my PCs are red1 red 2 and so on
[09:20] <Tm_T> !firefox | romain_
[09:20] <ubotu> romain_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:20] <redfive> my main on is red5 for obvous reasons
[09:21] <|ericsson|> different subject: how well could one trust chkrootkit?
[09:21] <roguejedix> redfive: I'm a fan of the Jedi Knight series of games, so... :)
[09:21] <Tm_T> romain_: no idea though whats in there
[09:21] <redfive> I love jedi kinght!!
[09:21] <romain_> ubotu: yes but i can't visit this website, konqueror dosn't work
[09:22] <redfive> i just beat jedi academy, been playin if on and off for 3 years
[09:22] <roguejedix> redfive: Same here. The only one I haven't played is Dark Forces
[09:22] <|ericsson|> !offtopic
[09:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:22] <roguejedix> Whoops, sorry
[09:22] <redfive> dude, i played the snot out of that game when it came out
[09:22] <redfive> its an ple one
[09:22] <redfive> *old
[09:23] <redfive> i such a SW geek i try and colect all starwars games
[09:23] <redfive> one of my faves is X-wing
[09:23] <roguejedix> redfive: I think it's best if we move this conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:23] <roguejedix> We're cluttering up the channel
[09:23] <romain_> Tm_T: i will come back to windows to visit this link
[09:23] <redfive> totaly, sorry about that
[09:24] <romain_> Tm_T: thank you
[09:24] <Tm_T> romain_: err, you don't need windows to go to web
[09:24] <redfive> i have this PC milti boot between WinXP x64, vista x64, and kubuntu amd64, soon i will install OSX too
[09:24] <wsjunior> is anybody else having annoying problems with keyboard repeating keys like thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis?
[09:24] <|ericsson|> wsjunior: only when I press key's for a long time ;)
[09:24] <romain_> Tm_T: yes because konqueror doesn't work that's why i want to install firefox
[09:25] <Tm_T> romain_: err, doesn't work at all?
[09:25] <HymnToLife> konqueror works very well
[09:25] <Arwen> I never liked Konqueror, but that's just my 2 cents
[09:25] <Tm_T> romain_: open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install firefox" to quick install firefox :)
[09:25] <Tm_T> Arwen: and I can't stand any other, matter of taste :)
[09:25] <|ericsson|> wsjunior: Have you checked your system settings -> keyboard (keyboard-repeat)
[09:25] <romain_> Tm_T: no when i want to visit a website it says "Could not connect to host"
[09:25] <redfive> konqueror should be the fastest, but if your using amd64 you will have flash and java problems (being that they dont work without extra work)
[09:26] <romain_> Tm_T: ok
[09:26] <Arwen> Tm_T, heh, dunno, the file manager + web browser combo always smelled of MS explorer to me
[09:27] <wsjunior> |ericsson|: its disabled
[09:28] <wsjunior> another doubt, is tv-out supposed to work for ati cards using fglrx?
[09:28] <wsjunior> i still couldnt make it work with my ati xpress 200m
[09:28] <Arwen> wsjunior, yes, but it's always been tricky
[09:29] <|ericsson|> wsjunior: you could try to enable, lower the response-time and then disable it again
[09:29] <romain_> Tm_T: when i whrite sudo apt-get... it's says that he hadn't the packet firefox
[09:29] <|ericsson|> wsjunior: lower resons-time = increase bar
[09:29] <Tm_T> romain_: hmm, mozilla-firefox then =)
[09:29] <romain_> ok
[09:30] <romain_> Tm_T: does i need to put the cd of kubuntu ?
[09:30] <HymnToLife> romain_, firefox is not on the Kubuntu CD
[09:30] <romain_> HymnToLife: ok
[09:30] <HymnToLife> you'll need to get it from the repos, make sure they're enabled
[09:30] <Tm_T> romain_: ?
[09:30] <Tm_T> romain_: no, that wouldn't help
[09:30] <dwidmann> :O
[09:31] <wsjunior> Arwen: could u help me to set up mine?
[09:31] <romain_> Tm_T: ok i will try mozilla-firefox
[09:31] <Arwen> wsjunior, nope, I don't use tvout, sorry
[09:31] <wsjunior> |ericsson|: gonna try..
[09:31] <HymnToLife> !find firefox
[09:31] <ubotu> Found: firefox, firefox-dbg, firefox-dev, firefox-gnome-support, firefox-libthai (and 60 others)
[09:31] <rodney_> HI
[09:31] <HymnToLife> seems trhe package *is* firefox
[09:31] <rodney_> ALGUIEN DE COSTARICA
[09:31] <wsjunior> Arwen: ok. i cant find any tutorial to configure it with ati cards just with nvidia..
[09:32] <|ericsson|> sudo apt-cache search firefox
[09:34] <Arwen> |ericsson|, you don't need sudo to use apt-cache
[09:34] <|ericsson|> Arwen: I always write out sudo nowadays to the channel (just in case)
[09:35] <Arwen> |ericsson|, I make a point not to, sudo isn't part of the command after all :-)
[09:35] <|ericsson|> Arwen: Since I am a man, I can only remember 1 *one* thing at the time. Hard to switch between remembering when, and when not to ;)
[09:36] <|ericsson|> Arwen: but ok, point taken..
[09:36] <Arwen> hehe, I figure, if it don't work without sudo, you can always tack it on later :-)
[09:36] <stoft> !pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:36] <|ericsson|> stoft: that's sudo !pastbin for you matey..
[09:37] <stoft> lol
[09:37] <Arwen> LOL
[09:39] <jon_> i upgraded from dapper to edgy and now i cant get mpgs to play on firefox
[09:39] <|ericsson|> !codecs > jon_
[09:39] <dwidmann> jon_: might as well take the next step and upgrade to feisty :D
[09:39] <facugaich> What's kubuntu's equivalente of gconf-editor?
[09:40] <Tm_T> facugaich: kcontrol
[09:40] <dwidmann> facugaich: either kwrite or kate
[09:40] <|ericsson|> facugaich: Would guess that would be kate
[09:40] <dwidmann> oh, gconf
[09:40] <dwidmann> oops
[09:40] <Tm_T> hm?
[09:40] <dwidmann> kcontrol or systemsettings would be correct ...
[09:40] <dwidmann> tm_t: sorry, I have no love for gnome
[09:40] <Tm_T> that's my boy
[09:40] <stoft> can someone take a look at my top output, I'm having memory problems, whenever I approach my limit of ram the system starts swapping to disk furiously and everything grinds to a halt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18664/
[09:41] <stoft> looking at my top it seems my swap however isn't being used at all...
[09:42] <adaptr> stoft what does free -m say ?
[09:42] <dwidmann> stoft: if it's not being used at all, try running sudo swapon /dev/<yourswapdevicegoeshere>
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> someone mention gnome?  i want the heretic drawn and quartered
[09:43] <roguejedix> Daisuke_Ido: I'm sure they were talking about D&D
[09:44] <stoft> free -m says the same thing
[09:44] <stoft> dwidmann: thnx, I'll give it a try
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> let's hope so
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> this research paper is giving me a headache :\
[09:44] <aleatorius> hola
[09:44] <aleatorius> hello, from Spain :D
[09:45] <aleatorius> hello anabelen_
[09:45] <|ericsson|> Daisuke_Ido: doing research in how-to-hate-gnome?
[09:46] <kblog> does anybody have any expiriences in remote control from ubutu to win XP?
[09:46] <stoft> can someone paste me their fstab entry for swap please?
[09:46] <wsjunior> my synaptics touchpad scroll only works sometimes, is there any special configuration to make it work correctly. for instance, when i disable in ksynaptics it just disables sometimes..
[09:47] <andrea> ciao...
[09:47] <dwidmann> dev/mapper/sdc10_crypt none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:47] <andrea> c' qualche italiano...
[09:47] <andrea> ?
[09:47] <|ericsson|> !pasebin | dwidmann
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <Daisuke_Ido> |ericsson|: no, recreating a central indiana pliocene environment based on the habits of modern northern leopard frogs...  so insanely boring, and i'll stop now because it's off topic
[09:47] <kblog> im moving away but my sister and mother still need some support from time to time... :-/
[09:47] <|ericsson|> !it > andrea
[09:47] <dwidmann> |ericsson|: I think the pastebin is pointless for something that's only one line
[09:47] <Daisuke_Ido> kblog: ssh :D
[09:47] <|ericsson|> dwidmann: if you wish :)
[09:47] <aleatorius> hello andrea, spagnolo?
[09:47] <|ericsson|> Daisuke_Ido: couldn't find a longer name for it? ;)
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> |ericsson|: that's the short version
[09:48] <kblog> Daisuke_Ido: so u have any experiences in that? does it work well?
[09:48] <romain_> Tm_T: i'm not lucky, when i write "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr", nothing happen
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> kblog: i missed where you said "to XP" so i don't know
[09:48] <|ericsson|> !offtopic > |ericsson|
[09:48] <dwidmann> stoft: you did see that line a  minute ago ... right?
[09:48] <rojanu_> Hi everyone, for some reason my resolv.conf is not created? how can I create it manually
[09:48] <Tm_T> romain_: hmm, you mean it fails to install french translation?
[09:49] <aleatorius> dense conversation...
[09:49] <Tm_T> aleatorius: where?
[09:50] <aleatorius> here, at least for a rookie like me
[09:50] <Daisuke_Ido> aleatorius: this is slow :D
[09:50] <romain_> Tm_T: yes, i have write this commad in the "Run Command..." but when i clic in "run" the window disapear and nothing happen
[09:50] <stoft> yup, did now, thnx, had kill some apps, it was starting to kill itself again :-/
[09:50] <aleatorius> i just was thinking... what are they talking about? sorry :o)
[09:50] <stoft> dwidmann: ^
[09:50] <dwidmann> rojanu_: is resolvconf installed? have you recently installed dnsmasq or pdnsd?
[09:51] <Tm_T> romain_: run it in konsole, please
[09:51] <romain_> Tm_T: in failsafe mode ?
[09:51] <Tm_T> romain_: no, just open konsole
[09:51] <aleatorius> well, i should read some handbooks before understanding you....
[09:52] <aleatorius> thanks for your hospitality and bye :o)
[09:52] <rojanu_> dwidmann: i haven't got resolconf command and I haven't installed anything else
[09:52] <dwidmann> rojanu_: I mean the resolvconf package
[09:53] <romain_> Tm_T: he says "impossible to find the packet mozilla-firefox-locale-fr-fr"
[09:53] <rojanu_> dwidmann no its not installed
[09:54] <dwidmann> rojanu_: that might have something to do with that then
[09:54] <dwidmann> rojanu_: installing it might be a good start
[09:54] <Tm_T> romain_: ok, then there's no such package, try search, "apt-cache search firefox-locale-fr"
[09:54] <stoft> swap on! thnx dwidmann, adaptr
[09:54] <dwidmann> stoft: so it worked? ah, good
[09:55] <stoft> yup, changed my fstab entry as well, it was using a uuid that was no longer valid
[09:55] <dwidmann> stoft: that's your problem actually
[09:56] <stoft> kinda what I guessed
[09:56] <dwidmann> stoft: don't use the uuid, ever, on a swap, it changes after every reboot
[09:56] <romain_> Tm_T: ah i found "mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb"
[09:56] <dwidmann> AFAIK
[09:56] <romain_> Tm_T: i will install it in english
[09:56] <stoft> what's the difference between e.g. /dev/sda6 and /dev/mapper/sda6?
[09:56] <rojanu_> dwidmann: now I get, You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:56] <Tm_T> romain_: well, it's english already ;)
[09:56] <romain_> Tm_T: later i will change it in french
[09:56] <romain_> Tm_T: i can ?
[09:57] <dwidmann> rojanu: does "df -h" agree with that?
[09:57] <Tm_T> romain_: sure
[09:57] <SilentDis> hello
[09:58] <rojanu_> dwidmann seems so I will sort that thanks
[09:58] <romain_> Tm_T: he says firefox... is already the newest version install
[09:58] <Tm_T> so it's already there
[09:58] <SilentDis> bit of an odd question...  I'd like to create a 'backup superuser' account, in case i forget my main acct password.  but, i'd like said acct to 'notify' if it's used.  IE, write it in logs, send an e-mail, etc., as it shouldn't be used for anything else.
[09:58] <Tm_T> romain_: so, feel free to use ith then ;)
[09:59] <Tm_T> romain_: I'm going to sleep, good luck with it ->
[09:59] <romain_> Tm_T:ok thank you very much
[09:59] <Daisuke_Ido> SilentDis: if you forget *your* password, it should be game over anyway
[09:59] <Arwen> SilentDis, easy enough, make a user in "sudoers" or activate "root". Then set it
[09:59] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the password you use to log in.
[09:59] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[09:59] <Arwen> Then set its bash_login or bash_profile to include an email command to localhsot
[09:59] <Arwen> localhost*
[09:59] <raylu> SilentDis, .kde/Autostart
[10:00] <Arwen> SilentDis, better to just reset the password though :-)
[10:00] <SilentDis> Arwen:  oh duh, stupid me, if anything, i can just boot off a CD and reset it.  i'd not be doing it remotely anyway.  why must i think of convoluted solutions to everything?  *slaps head*
[10:00] <|ericsson|> SilentDis: write it on a paper and hide it in your shoes
[10:01] <Arwen> |ericsson|, what if he steps in mud? :-)
[10:01] <|ericsson|> Arwen: didn't think of that :/
[10:01] <SilentDis> I work in a kitchen, my shoes are not exactly the cleanest lol
[10:02] <dwidmann> rojanu: try running "sudo apt-get clean"
[10:02] <stoft> SilentDis: what happens if you boot as runlevel 1 instead of higher? you should get the same functionality no?
[10:02] <Hrontore> Does any one know where i can get this? "K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin"
[10:02] <romain_> but adept manager says that firefox is install
[10:02] <Arwen> stoft, then a different set of scripts is run... and I think it's console only
[10:03] <SilentDis> stoft: exactly.  either runlevel 1 or off a CD, makes no difference really.  i just wasn't looking at the problem right is all lol
[10:03] <Arwen> Hrontore, libk3b2-mp3
[10:04] <Hrontore> thnx
[10:04] <SilentDis> if I were to send someone 2 blank DVDs, postage, and a mailing label... would they be willing to 'return' the disks to me with 7.04 Ubuntu and Kubuntu burned on 'em for me?  I live in the boonies and am stuck on dialup :P
[10:04] <stoft> SilentDis: :) i accidently removed my accnt from the sudoers a while back (I was playing with the group commands and forgot a flag), some panic before my friend reminded me about runlevel 1 :)
[10:04] <Arwen> SilentDis, lol, if you send the postage too...
[10:04] <stoft> SilentDis: which continent you on? :)
[10:04] <SilentDis> Arwen: of course
[10:05] <SilentDis> stoft: WI, USA
[10:05] <Arwen> SilentDis, of course I'd be willing to, lol - but shipit can do the same thing
[10:05] <SilentDis> Arwen: they only send Desktop CDs
[10:05] <Arwen> ah
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> romain_: is firefox installed?
[10:06] <stoft> romain_: what's the problem?
[10:06] <SilentDis> Arwen: i'd need either the Alt CD or the DVD.  preferrably the DVD.  I'd be happy to just buy 'em from the source as well, to 'give back' a little to the project :)
[10:06] <Arwen> SilentDis, hehe, course
[10:06] <romain_> Daisuke_Ido: yes adept manager says that firefox is install
[10:06] <Arwen> I can even mirror Universe and Multiverse for you if you want, lol
[10:07] <digits> my /var/lib/dpkg/aviable is corrupted, how do I fix that?
[10:07] <romain_> Daisuke_Ido: but firefox isn't in the K menu
[10:07] <manu3l> hi
[10:07] <manu3l> i need some help
[10:07] <SilentDis> Arwen: may i PM you?
[10:07] <Arwen> romain_, well, just run "firefox" from a console
[10:07] <Arwen> SilentDis, no, join #anon32 instead
[10:08] <Daisuke_Ido> what arwen said
[10:08] <romain_> Arwen: just whrite "firefox" in a consol to start it ?
[10:10] <Arwen> romain_, yes
[10:10] <kubuntian> suppose i can login correctly with ssh using: ssh foo@myfoo.com
[10:10] <kubuntian> why if i do the same using sshfs nothign works?
[10:11] <ubuntu_> could somebody help me with my kopete
[10:11] <kubuntian> like sshfs foo@myfoo.com:/home/foo /home/localfoo/REMOTE
[10:11] <kubuntian> am i doing somethign uncorrectly?
[10:11] <ubuntu_> when i start it it opens but when i want to connect nothing happends
[10:11] <romain_> Arwen: he says that firefox isn't install ! it's strange because in adept manager he says the contrary
[10:12] <BluesKaj> !wmv
[10:12] <Arwen> romain_, force adept to reinstall it
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <jon_> for some reason, it wont let me upgrade to feisty using update manager. it says authentication failed. but i have the latest version of update manager.
[10:13] <jon_> there are two packages it wont let me upgrade-im pretty sure this is why the authentication fails. the packages are libggi2 and mplayer
[10:14] <jon_> but it wont let me check the boxes
[10:15] <jon_> can anyone help me out
[10:15] <Arwen> jon_, run "apt-get install mplayer libggi2" from a console - see what's blockign it
[10:15] <dwidmann> jon_If you think those are at fault, why not remove them before trying to upgrade?
[10:15] <jon_> i dont want to use the cli if its going to give me bugs
[10:15] <jon_> okay
[10:17] <jon_> thanks arwen, that seems to have done the trick
[10:17] <Arwen> jon_, heh, I had that issue when upgrading from dapper to edgy, easy enough to fix :-)
[10:18] <romain_> Arwen: when i ask to reinstall firefox with adept manager he says that he could'nt dowload some packages
 i dont want to use the cli if its going to give me bugs < get used to the cli, little buddy, it's there for a reason and can seriously save your but.  learn it, know it, love it.
[10:18] <Arwen> romain_, dear dear, you *do* have an Internet connection, don't you?
[10:18] <jon_> i just meant for the dist upgrade
[10:19] <gemidjy1> anyway to disable the new Progress Dialog in Feisty?
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: mr. obvious speaking here...  he's here isn't he? :D
[10:19] <romain_> Arwen: yes i have because i speak you now
[10:19] <Arwen> romain_, run this in a console "apt-get install --fix"
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> jon_: ah, yeah, i had the same issue, i opted to do a fresh install
[10:20] <romain_> Arwen: but konqueror can't connect to internet, it may be the solution ?
[10:20] <Arwen> romain_, yes, you might have a bad proxy setting
[10:20] <jon_> hm im still getting the authentication error?
[10:20] <jon_> but everything has been updated
[10:20] <redfive> anyone know anything about nspluginwrapper?
[10:20] <Arwen> no
[10:20] <dwidmann> redfive: yeah,
[10:21] <redfive> whats the best way to install it?
[10:21] <romain_> Arwen: in the configure menu of konqueror, "connect directly to network" is selected
[10:21] <Arwen> romain_, hmm....
[10:21] <dwidmann> redfive: in feisty it's in the main repository, not sure which branch . .. either main or universe
[10:22] <AdamBright> Hay I've been playing around with the locate kio, i want to create a search that'll look up multiple files (e.g. .mp3's and .ogg's). I've tried rlocate and regular expressions but then it just fails. Any one know how to co multiple term searchs in kio-locates?
[10:22] <dwidmann> redfive: in dapper/edgy the best way is to use the janvitus repository
[10:22] <Arwen> romain_, try "w3m google.com" from konsole
[10:22] <Arwen> if that works, it means you have a konqueror issue
[10:22] <Arwen> if it doesn't, it means you have a network issue
[10:23] <redfive> there must be something wring with my repositories, i have everything enabled and i caint see it
[10:23] <redfive> i caint see wine ither
[10:23] <dwidmann> redfive: wine won't be in there
[10:23] <romain_> Arwen: "w3w command not found"
[10:23] <redfive> does it make a difference if i updated from edgy to feisty?
[10:24] <dwidmann> redfive: at least I think it's in the feisty repo ... let me check
[10:24] <Arwen> romain_, w3m!
[10:24] <romain_> Arwen: it's work
[10:24] <dwidmann> redfive:  looks like not, you'll have to use Janvitus
[10:25] <Arwen> romain_, huh, looks like you have a KDE/Konqueror issue then
[10:25] <romain_> Arwen: what is the good configuration for konqueror ?
[10:25] <Arwen> sorry, but I'm a GNOME user, don't know how to debug those kind of problems :-(
[10:25] <dwidmann> redfive: deb http://janvitus.netsons.org/ubuntu/ feisty-janvitus all
[10:26] <romain_> Arwen: oh ok thank you
[10:26] <jon_> how do i know if im running kde or gnome?
[10:26] <redfive> ok
[10:26] <Daisuke_Ido> jon_: does your desktop look like it got sick?
[10:26] <redfive> is there one for wine?
[10:26] <Arwen> romain_, I'm so sorry that I wasn't more help :-(
[10:26] <jon_> no
[10:26] <jon_> i mean i have kde programs on here but
[10:26] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're not running gnome :)
[10:26] <phoxy> .
[10:27] <Arwen> jon_, assuming you haven't done anything funny... if it's purple, it's KDE
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> do you have a k menu, kicker, etc?
[10:27] <Arwen> if it's brown, it's GNOME
[10:27] <jon_> its not purple
[10:27] <phoxy> I am having trouble with gfortran (gnu fortran 95)
[10:27] <dwidmann> how about blue?
[10:27] <jon_> i started with gnome but i got kde desktop off of synaptic
[10:27] <romain_> Arwen: you did the maximum and thank you
[10:27] <jon_> its brown-orange
[10:27] <phoxy> can anyone help with Fortran?
[10:28] <dwidmann> Must be GNOME or a cross-dressing KDE
[10:28] <Arwen> jon_, screenshot please :-)
[10:28] <AdamBright> Anyone familiar with kio-locate? and regular expressions?
[10:28] <jon_> is there not a way to check?
[10:28] <|ericsson|> dwidmann: a dragon in disguise
[10:28] <jon_> or can you switch off
[10:28] <Arwen> jon_, there is, but a screenshot is faster
[10:28] <jon_> im not sure how to send a screen shot
[10:29] <Arwen> jon_, hit "print screen" and post it to http://imageshack.us
[10:29] <Mena> Hi...Why every time i try to run kybuntu it starts fsck and in the middle of checking the root part >>> give me message fail and then restart
[10:30] <phoxy> can anyone help with Fortran?
[10:30] <dwidmann> redfive: I wrote a script that can help take care of wine ... try it here : http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64/
[10:30] <jon_> then what arwen
[10:30] <slow-motion> reoot time. wish me luck
[10:31] <Arwen> jon_, imageshack will give you a link
[10:31] <atz> hmm, anyone know what coding i should select in Kaudiocreator?
[10:32] <Arwen> atz, it's your choice... I prefer Ogg Vorbis or Ogg FLAC
[10:32] <dwidmann> wow, kwin's focus stealing prevention level extreme really is extreme ...
[10:32] <jon_> http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2104/screenshothw9.png
[10:32] <jon_> interesting
[10:32] <atz>  i get an error saying: Could not start the process Could not create I/O-slave, Klauncher said: Unknown protocole
[10:32] <Arwen> jon_, gnome
[10:32] <atz> not that arwen you can choose like what country it is
[10:33] <atz> i got the encoding settings good :>
[10:33] <Arwen> atz, does that matter? LOL
[10:33] <jon_> i thought i installed kde. i have all the kde programs.
[10:33] <Arwen> atz, try Unicode, it works for all languages and font sets
[10:33] <atz> well i think that is what causing the error so i cant rip it :(
[10:33] <Arwen> jon_, at the login screen, click "sessions" and choose kde :-)
[10:34] <jon_> right on
[10:35] <atz> didnt help :(
[10:35] <jon_> how do i disable my extra repositories?
[10:35] <AdamBright> Multi term search in rlocate: please?
[10:35] <Arwen> atz, probably not a language coding problem then :-)
[10:35] <atz> okey :x
[10:35] <Arwen> jon_, edit them out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <stoft> is there an equivalent to "time" but for measuring memory allocated by a certain command?
[10:35] <atz> ty anyways
[10:35] <jon_> can i just disable them so i can re-enable them later?
[10:35] <AdamBright> rlocate:.mp3|.ogg doesn't work, what type of regular expresion does it want?
[10:35] <jon_> with a number sign or something?
[10:36] <Arwen> AdamBright, why would you ever try re-encoding mp3 to Vorbis (I assume?)?
[10:36] <Arwen> AdamBright, that just makes the crap you listen to sound even worse
[10:37] <dwidmann> arwen: not by much really, I tried that once
[10:37] <AdamBright> arwen, you don't understand, rlocate is for locating files in konqueror usings a regular expression, i want to search for mp3's and ogg's at the same time in one folder
[10:37] <Arwen> AdamBright, ah, no idea then sorry
[10:37] <Arwen> apologies, we get a lot of those requests (lossy transcoding)
[10:37] <jon_> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:38] <jon_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:38] <jon_> is this okay
[10:38] <Arwen> jon_, harmless
[10:38] <jon_> k
[10:38] <Arwen> happens when you use sudo
[10:38] <phoxy> when   I type: gfortran -o MyProg MyProg.f  and try to run MyProg later, nothing happens
[10:38] <dwidmann> jon_: looks like one of those "so long as it still works" things
[10:39] <AdamBright> why this is going i'll probably have to disturb the maintainer of kio-locate to get my answer : P
[10:40] <jon_> my sources.list still says breezy in it
[10:41] <Arwen> jon_, make sure those aren't the lines with "#" at the beginning :-)
[10:41] <jon_> should i change all those to feisty too?
[10:41] <flowingfire> Hello Kubuntuites
[10:42] <jon_> oh, it is
[10:42] <Arwen> jon_, na, they're meaningless
[10:42] <jon_> but i should change the ones that say edgy to feisty?
[10:42] <flowingfire> I have a thing running in my system tray that I don't want there, but it doesn't show up in the system tray menu.... How do I get rid of it?
[10:42] <Graham> flowingfire: Never say that again.
[10:42] <flowingfire> graham: What?
[10:43] <Graham> [21:41]  <flowingfire> Hello Kubuntuites
[10:43] <flowingfire> graham: LOL.
[10:43] <flowingfire> I was being cute
[10:43] <fesse> How can I remove the cdrom-source in apt when I have installed via the alternative iso?
[10:43] <Graham> Are you a woman?
[10:43] <jon_> does ## instead of # disable in sources.list?
[10:43] <rmd_> ok.  i've installed kubuntu-desktop.  is there a way to automate the removal of all the gnome stuff?
[10:43] <Arwen> fesse, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the line
[10:44] <Arwen> Graham, but... there are no women on teh internets!
[10:44] <fesse> So I have to have a double ##?
[10:44] <lontra> jon_: either way ... one # or ## comments out the line
[10:44] <Arwen> fesse, no, one "#" should be enough, look harder to make sure there isn't another line
[10:44] <Graham> Arwen: I disagree, search google images for sluts, you see women.
[10:44] <Arwen> Graham, JPEGs don't count :-)
[10:44] <fesse> Ok. I will look again :) Thaks
[10:44] <lontra> !coc
[10:44] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:45] <Arwen> lontra, if you're gonna lecture us, don't use a bot to do it... anyway, back on topic
[10:45] <Graham> Arwen: .jpeg is my girlfriend's last name :(
[10:45] <Arwen> Graham, lol... but really, enough about that
[10:45] <fesse> My misstake, there where a line that I had missed. Thanks for the info.
[10:45] <stoft> there's no explaining women ($ man woman) but you can at least make men nice ($ nice -n 19 man)
[10:46] <PCGenie> Hi!... i tryed today to install a kdevelop package based on debian in Kubuntu, but it is missing three packages< these are:libcvsservice() libgamin() Kdevelop-data where do i find them
[10:46] <Graham> Right, is ANYBODY HERE good at image editing?
[10:46] <Graham> Because I need somebody to make a logo for my website.
[10:46] <Arwen> Graham, define "good", I can use GIMP to do some basic processing
[10:46] <flowingfire> I am, Mr. Armstrong.. better with photoshop than the open source stuff hto
[10:46] <rmd_> can i turn joins/parts off in Konversation?
[10:47] <heinkel_111> rmd_ yes
[10:47] <Graham> flowingfire: You have an awesome last name :P
[10:47] <dwidmann> Graham: ahahahaha!!
[10:47] <rmd_> heinkel_111: care to share? :)
[10:48] <roguejedix> rmd: Configure -> Behavior -> Chat Window
[10:48] <heinkel_111> rmd_: i am looking it up
[10:48] <Graham> I want a picture of Tux handing out a CD for my website Get Linux, it's like to promote Linux and help Windows users see the light.
[10:48] <jon_> are multiverse and universe considered ubuntu repositories or are they extra?
[10:48] <heinkel_111> rmd:- i disabled it one year ago...
[10:48] <roguejedix> rmd_: Second option
[10:49] <Graham> Like Tux, handing out a CD that says Linux on it to somebody infront of the screen. You know what I'm saying, to the viewer.
[10:49] <heinkel_111> rmd: Settings >configure konversation > behavior > chat window
[10:49] <Graham> Can anybody do that because I'm really in need of it.
[10:49] <rmd_> heinkel_111: amazing.  thank you
[10:49] <heinkel_111> rmd_: in the "general" section, tick Hide Join/Part/Nick events
[10:50] <sam_> hi does anyone know where i can get walls beryl plug in please?
[10:50] <rmd_> i can't believe i didnt see that before :-/
[10:51] <PCGenie> Where do i find missing packages, so that i can install Kdevelop debian package in Kubuntu
[10:51] <Graham> There may be an... ahem... small dontion :)
[10:52] <Graham> PCGenie: install kdevelop, it'll get the required packages for you.
[10:52] <blekos> couild u tell me how to enable shortcuts when i have other keyboard layout than latin
[10:52] <dwidmann> PCGenie: are you familiar with "apt-cache search"?
[10:52] <LjL> jon_: they're not enabled by default because they're not maintained by the core developers, but they're as official as it gets
[10:53] <PCGenie> The problem is that i am using windows at this PC because i cannot access the internet with Kubuntu
[10:53] <PCGenie> thats why i download everything and burn it on cd, and than transfer it to my other PC
[10:53] <dwidmann> PCGenie: ouch
[10:54] <Alonea> I am trying to look at an .rtf file without any success. OpenOffice gives an error and KWord opens it, but its blank.
[10:54] <chijin> the rtf file isn't ok then
[10:54] <PCGenie> there are three packages i am missing, those are :libcvsservice() libgamin() Kdevelop-data
[10:54] <dwidmann> PCGenie: what you need is the repositories on disk ... you might be able to find that somewhere. That would make your life 100% easier
[10:55] <lontra> PCGenie: or you could use debian and just d/l all their cds . . .
[10:55] <dwidmann> PCGenie: libgamin is actually the package libgamin0, most likely
[10:55] <AdamBright> damn you people, had to email the old maintainer of kio-locate to get my answer : P
[10:55] <Graham> Who here wants $100 to design a logo?
[10:55] <Alonea> chijin: what do you mean? I tried redownloading it. Its my resume off of collegecentral.com. I used to be able to see it on win I think. Don't know if I have looked at it on Linux or not. I think I have, but I am not sure.
[10:55] <dwidmann> Graham: do stick figures count? I could use the $100 :P
[10:56] <chijin> Alonea: there has to be something wrong with it :P
[10:56] <PCGenie> i try kdevelop.org
[10:56] <jon_> well
[10:56] <jon_> here goes nothing
[10:56] <jon_> its feisty time
[10:56] <Graham> I need a logo of tux, not something hugely complicated.
[10:57] <AdamBright> Alonea, have you tried opening the rtf in kate or kwrite?
[10:57] <dwidmann> Graham: if all you need is tux ... you can probably find that on google
[10:57] <Alonea> AdamBright: they open them? didn't know. lemme try real quick
[10:58] <Graham> No I need a modified tux handing out a CD.
[10:58] <AdamBright> Alonea, whell you won't get the formatting but at least you could see if anything wrong with them and at least get the text out to maybe copy and paste into a new file
[10:59] <kubuntu_user07> hi all
[10:59] <Alonea> AdamBright: Kate opens it, but there is a bunch of code around. \par\pard\plain\s0\ql\fi0\fs24\i0\b0\cf1\ul0\strike0 is there a lot and stuff similiar to it
[11:00] <Schuenemann> what do I need to have in order to run the qmake command?
[11:01] <kubuntu_user07> I noticed Ubuntu starts up fairly quickly on my machine when installed how does Kubuntu compare in loadtime?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> how do I use qmake?
[11:03] <AdamBright> Alonea, well if you can't get it to open in something like openoffice writer or kword you might be faced with copying'n'pasting the stuff out
[11:03] <Alonea> AdamBright: the error that OpenOffice gives is: Read Error: File Format error found at 40,1(row,col).
[11:04] <|ericsson|> kubuntu_user07: kubuntu tends to be slower in startup, but faster during usage
[11:04] <AdamBright> Alonea, I don't really use rtfs and i've never had a problem like that before...
[11:04] <kubuntu_user07> Alright I have had Ubuntu 6.10 installed and was gettign ready to update but nto sure if I want to switch it to Kubuntu or not
[11:04] <kubuntu_user07> What is somethign that might help me decide except for looks
[11:04] <Alonea> AdamBright: I rarely use them too, but its what the site is uploading to me as.
[11:06] <kubuntu_user07> does kubuntu or ubuntu have more packages?
[11:07] <AdamBright> Alonea, go onto pastebin.com and copy'n'paste the whole thing (ctrl+a to select the whole thing)
[11:07] <fignew> kubuntu_user07: same about
[11:07] <AdamBright> Alonea, then send me a link to it
[11:07] <kubuntu_user07> and i have to add repositories if i want to get certain things?
[11:07] <Alonea> AdamBright: the code that is in Kate?
[11:08] <|ericsson|> k3b doesn't ask if I want to over-write already written DVD-RW data: it just over-writes, is there a setting to change that?
[11:08] <AdamBright> Alonea, yeah
[11:08] <Alonea> AdamBright: bah. I will just copy paste and just redo the whole thing. I dont want to upload it because it contains personal information
[11:09] <Schuenemann> how do I install qmake?
[11:09] <AdamBright> Hay is that tux image handing cds out guy still here? maybe http://ic.ucsc.edu/~legnitto/images/graphic/tux.jpg ?
[11:09] <AdamBright> Alonea, ok fair enough, sorry i couldn't help :(
[11:12] <Alonea> AdamBright: its ok. I just dont think its a good idea to put up something that contains my address, name, phone number, and other stuff. It might even be the font it doesn't like or something. Who knows
[11:13] <AdamBright> Alonea, does the site you got it from not provide it in any other format?
[11:14] <Alonea> AdamBright: nope. Wish I could see it in html. It is the only way to view it.
[11:17] <Schuenemann> !qmake
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <jhutchins> !info qmake
[11:17] <ubotu> Package qmake does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:17] <Schuenemann> hmmm =/
[11:17] <heinkel_111> urgh, does it not?
[11:18] <heinkel_111> sounds strange
[11:18] <Schuenemann> I'm using edgy
[11:18] <heinkel_111> me to
[11:18] <Schuenemann> have you installed it?
[11:18] <|ericsson|> !search k3b
[11:18] <ubotu> Found: burners, k3b
[11:18] <|ericsson|> !info k3b
[11:18] <jhutchins> !find qmake
[11:18] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 4912 kB, installed size 9404 kB
[11:18] <ubotu> File qmake found in kdevelop-data, libqt4-dev, libqt4-dev-kdecopy, qt3-dev-tools
[11:19] <kubuntu_user07> guys im having trouble deciding kubuntu or ubuntu. what generally runs more stable and quicker?
[11:20] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: It depends on whether you like the gnome environment or the KDE environment.
[11:20] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: Gnome is simpler for a beginning user, kde has more options.
[11:20] <kubuntu_user07> well. the only thing about kde is the close button is farther off from the rest and it kind of sticks out to me but otherwise i can use and like both
[11:20] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: That's a matter of themes/decorations.
[11:20] <AdamBright> kubuntu_user07, yeah quicker and more stable is a long standing argument between them
[11:20] <|ericsson|> Burning DVD's with K3B and 16x discs only runs in 4-5x speed while burning, tried 6 different DVD+/- media types/manufacturers..
[11:21] <heinkel_111> jhutchins: wouldn't you say that KDE is more familiar for previous windows XP users?
[11:21] <|ericsson|> heinkel_111: I would second that thought..
[11:21] <kubuntu_user07> kde yes is more windows like
[11:21] <jhutchins> It seems that way to me - I last used W95 - but people have said that Gnome is easier too, so I guess it just depends.
[11:21] <kubuntu_user07> then can both run 3d desktops right?
[11:21] <heinkel_111> gnome on the other hand may be more like the apple desktop
[11:21] <|ericsson|> imo, gnome is bloatier :)
[11:22] <heinkel_111> i like KDE best, i never had gnome but one day
[11:22] <jhutchins> Clearly most of us are in this channel because we like KDE better.
[11:22] <|ericsson|> jhutchins: you'd think ;)
[11:22] <kubuntu_user07> i agree with that
[11:22] <heinkel_111> yep, you just walked inot the church and asked if there were any believers here.....
[11:22] <chemist109> Yeah, seems like a pointless question to ask here.
[11:22] <kubuntu_user07> i just have been using ubuntu for about a month. everythign is just right there. it seems in kubuntu you have to dig for it
[11:22] <AdamBright> kubuntu_user07, nothing to stop you getting one of them then just downloading kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop so you can switch at login and try both
[11:23] <jhutchins> !repos | kubuntu_user07
[11:23] <ubotu> kubuntu_user07: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:23] <|ericsson|> so, can you explain to me why I'm sitting in #ubuntu-wifi when i don't have ubuntu and I don't have wi-fi ;)
[11:23] <jhutchins> |ericsson|: You're a troubleshooting junkie looking for problems to solve?
[11:23] <kubuntu_user07> as i tried kubuntu i noticed a small panel with 4 icons. but when i added one it didn't display and when i clicked the spot it should have been it in launched is that just because i was using livecd?
[11:24] <|ericsson|> jhutchins: only problem is: there are no people in that channel even ;)
[11:24] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, and how to use qmake? the tutorial just tells me to type "qmake", but arguments are needed
[11:24] <jhutchins> You _wish_ you had wifi?
[11:24] <|ericsson|> jhutchins: not really ;)
[11:24] <|ericsson|> Schuenemann: man pages?
[11:24] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: No idea.
[11:24] <kubuntu_user07> is there a way to hide the fact i am using a wired ethernet connection?
[11:24] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: Not a coder.
[11:24] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: What's your actual goal?
[11:24] <|ericsson|> kubuntu_user07: cut the wires? :)
[11:25] <kubuntu_user07> :P i meant the icon in the taskbar
[11:25] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: hide it from who/what/where?
[11:25] <heinkel_111> tablecloth
[11:25] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, install qsopcast
[11:25] <Schuenemann> actually, compile it
[11:25] <heinkel_111> ;-)
[11:25] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: Oh, sure, right click it and quit.
[11:25] <kubuntu_user07> and i will still be connected?
[11:25] <Linuxape> can anyone run the lock session/login as new user selection in the kmenu?  mine closes the current session and gives me a black screen.
[11:25] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: It should come with instructions on how to install it, usually in INSTALL or README.
[11:26] <Schuenemann> well, I'm following them :p
[11:26] <|ericsson|> buhu, this is on a 16X DVD+R media: Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps
[11:26] <kubuntu_user07> another quick question if i am not being a bother: in ubuntu you run gksudo gedit to change files what would the kubuntu equivalent be?
[11:26] <TheDebugger> kdesu
[11:26] <TheDebugger> *kdesu kate
[11:26] <chemist109> kdesu kwrite
[11:26] <jhutchins> |ericsson|: 16x is the maximum theoretical speed.  Lots of factors can affect it, your burner, how clean the heads are, your CPU, your RAM...
[11:26] <rmd_> is koffice up to par with openoffice.org?
[11:27] <kubuntu_user07> so any guides or anything for making changes on ubuntu can be used for kubuntu as long as i change gksudo gedit to kdesu kate?
[11:27] <jhutchins> rmd_: In terms of raw function, I don't think so.  Function per gig of code, yeah.
[11:27] <rmd_> well, i'm looking for raw function.  so, thanks for the candor. :)
[11:28] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: Well, some configuration is going to be in different places, but for basic system stuff yeah.
[11:28] <apecat> i installed xfonts-terminus during my post setup routine of apgetting stuff, and i've rebooted, but terminus doesn't show up in any font list
[11:28] <heinkel_111> kubuntu_user07: as long as you are changing something common for kubuntu and ubuntu, yes
[11:28] <apecat> what to do?
[11:28] <|ericsson|> jhutchins: but such a drop? System resources aren't the worst atm
[11:28] <kubuntu_user07> so i would be able to look up kubuntu guides instead of ubuntu or would it just be one guide?
[11:28] <jhutchins> rmd_: oo just does what I expect it to when I try to do something.  When I try switching to koffice or abi, things don't work as well for me.
[11:29] <rmd_> jhutchins, thank you.  i've had consistent problems with abi
[11:29] <jhutchins> Then again, if I try to load a document in oo on my two main workstations, it crashes.
[11:29] <rmd_> hmm.  i've never had crash problems with oo
[11:29] <jhutchins> Spreadsheet functions like time arithmetic, sequential fills, just work.
[11:29] <kubuntu_user07> ok guys i think im going to give kubuntu a go since i ran ubuntu for a month. the next version of either isnot for 6 months or so right? last time i installed it 7.04 came out after a week
[11:29] <jhutchins> rmd_: Nobody else has either - unless they have, and it's totally broken for them.
[11:30] <rmd_> bizarre
[11:30] <rmd_> possible java issue?
[11:30] <jhutchins> kubuntu_user07: That's the theory.  You know you can just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu?
[11:30] <kubuntu_user07> yes i kow but last time i did i got a chnged bootscreen for some odd reason
[11:30] <rmd_> jhutchins, you can do what i did, and install kubuntu-desktop in synaptic and then use the metadiff scripts to remove ubuntu-desktop packages
[11:30] <kubuntu_user07> kubuntu can run compiz for 3d desktop right?
[11:30] <jhutchins> I think it has something to do with my Brother laser printer - that's the determining difference between the ones that crash and the ones that don't.
[11:31] <rmd_> err
[11:31] <Schuenemann> !sopcast
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sopcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <rmd_> that was meant for kubuntu_user07
[11:31] <UKESN|Javax> fuuuck off chelsea fc, you aint got no history! 5 european cups, 18 leagues, THAT WHAT I CALL HISTORY!
[11:31] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: The trigger keywords are usually for general concepts, like "wifi" or "repos", or programs that a LOT of people ask about.
[11:32] <fusspils> well said Javax
[11:32] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, I see...
[11:32] <kubuntu_user07> alright guys you may see me in a bit after i install kubuntu
[11:32] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: !search or !find to locate something, !info if you know it's a package.
[11:32] <|ericsson|> Another weird GUI question coming from me: how come I don't get that cute little CD/DVD icon on the desktop when a disc mounts?
[11:33] <rmd_> |ericsson|: ot
[11:33] <rmd_> err
[11:33] <jhutchins> |ericsson|: That's something that's configurable within KDE, but why it isn't happening is a good question.
[11:33] <|ericsson|> rmd_: otter? ;)
[11:34] <jhutchins> !find sopcast
[11:34] <ubotu> Package/file sopcast does not exist in feisty
[11:34] <|ericsson|> jhutchins: figured as much as it's a setting, but as probably known, I'm not used to GUI's ;)
[11:35] <domenic> hey
[11:35] <hephaestus_> anyone here uses netbeans? i cant setup the keyboard on netbeans (for example the key / doesnt works)
[11:35] <domenic> does anyone know a good C editor with highlights?
[11:35] <rmd_> |ericsson|:  do to desktop settings/behavior
[11:35] <rmd_> under device icons
[11:36] <rmd_> and make sure mounted dvd and mounded cd-rom are selected
[11:36] <jhutchins> domenic: vim
[11:36] <|ericsson|> rmd_: you alread lost me ;) where is device icons?
[11:36] <rmd_> ok
[11:36] <rmd_> so, right click your desktop and select configure desktop
[11:36] <rmd_> then click on the behavior icon
[11:36] <rmd_> and then the device icon tab
[11:37] <|ericsson|> rmd_: checked
[11:37] <heinkel_111> domenic: Kdevelop?
[11:37] <rmd_> ah
[11:37] <rmd_> well, then.  i dont know :)
[11:37] <|ericsson|> rmd_: no worries mate, nice to navigate through GUI anyway ;)
[11:39] <UKESN|Javax> In Rafa We Trust
[11:43] <|ericsson|> One of the backup-stations I'm checking with chkrootkit got the following: Checking `login'... compromised
[11:44] <|ericsson|> Checking `passwd'...compromised
[11:44] <|ericsson|> not a very good sign, eh?
[11:44] <LjL> i don't know what makes you think that :)
[11:44] <|ericsson|> LjL: I'm pshycic! ;)
[11:45] <|ericsson|> or however we spell it 00:45 in the night
[11:45] <dwidmann> |ericsson|: whatever do you mean, that means the night's still young :P
[11:45] <|ericsson|> I think a shutdown -h now would be in order ;)
[11:45] <tom_> how do i make the taskbar only show windows from the current workspace under compiz/beryl
[11:45] <LjL> ah, finland. was wondering why someone called ericsson would be in gmt+2 :P
[11:46] <LjL> |ericsson|: or pull the plug even - security manuals would say that :)
[11:46] <|ericsson|> LjL: get's worse if I told you I was swedish, used to live in U.K and have german heritage..
[11:46] <dwidmann> o.O what use would pulling the plug have?
[11:46] <|ericsson|> LjL: backup machine to far away for that ;)
[11:46] <tom_> anyone please?
[11:46] <LjL> dwidmann: if the cracker has compromised "shutdown" (or somesuch), they might let the computer, say, wipe everything before halting
[11:46] <|ericsson|> howabout kill -eviluser
[11:47] <dwidmann> LjL: ah
[11:48] <stoft> |ericsson|: now your shady past comes to light! and I felt good about myself saying good night in finnish yesterday, even though I'm not finnish...
[11:48] <LjL> |ericsson|, hm, if the binaries are compromised, just try to shutdown the machine as quickly and uncleanly as possible imho
[11:48] <LjL> jag kunde sga det p svenska so we complete the circle
[11:49] <rmd_> ok
[11:49] <rmd_> i just installed oo in kubuntu
[11:49] <rmd_> and there are no icons at all
[11:49] <|ericsson|> LjL: Du could sanoa what ever kieli du would like
[11:49] <heinkel_111> rmd_: that is usual, for some reason
[11:49] <rmd_> how do i fix it?
[11:49] <|ericsson|> So, in short..how to I sabotage our backup-server, making it go down un-cleanly?
[11:50] <heinkel_111> rmd_: i never fix it, i just wait and it fixes itself, and this is the techniwue for a wide range of programs
[11:50] <|ericsson|> shutdown -dirty-with-immediate-effect
[11:50] <LjL> |ericsson|: halt -f -n is what comes to my mind
[11:50] <LjL> (check the man page first tho)
[11:51] <heinkel_111> |ericsson|: hope you don't have a flase positive then..
[11:51] <rmd_> heinkel_111: any idea of when?
[11:51] <heinkel_111> |ericsson|: hope you don't have a _false_ positive then.. (realtime spellcheck now)
[11:51] <|ericsson|> Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while.../lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/.mounted
[11:51] <|ericsson|> what on earth is that?
[11:51] <LjL> nah, hidden directories and stuff abound
[11:51] <heinkel_111> rmd:_ not really
[11:52] <LjL> i don't know, but i'm full of hidden dirs as well
[11:52] <heinkel_111> it is usually less than a day, may be a cron job that handles it?
[11:52] <|ericsson|> hmm...
[11:52] <stoft> what would be the difference between halt and poweroff?
[11:52] <|ericsson|> and now my (this machine) is acting up..
[11:52] <heinkel_111> rnd_:alternatively try logout login
[11:53] <LjL>  /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/.mounted, yes, i have that too
[11:53] <LjL> that shouldn't be a cause of concern
[11:53] <LjL> i'd say the "compromised" should, on the other hand
[11:53] <rmd_> this is ridiculous
[11:53] <|ericsson|> LjL: as suspicious?
[11:53] <|ericsson|> compromised could be something to be aware of ;)
[11:53] <LjL> |ericsson|: it's under "Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while..."
[11:53] <|ericsson|> hui! Now my head is going blank...
[11:54] <LjL> but that really lists all hidden files it finds, basically
[11:54] <LjL> lots of false positives there
[11:54] <|ericsson|> how to check cpu usage/processes?
[11:54] <LjL> top?
[11:54] <|ericsson|> free -m | top?
[11:54] <|ericsson|> ah..
[11:54] <LjL> (or ps aux)
[11:54] <|ericsson|> mm..ps won't work anymore..
[11:54] <stoft> ouch
[11:55] <|ericsson|> heh, gzip running 60% cpu here, not even using it ;)
[11:56] <dwidmann> |ericsson|: kill ... kill ... killall :D
[11:56] <|ericsson|> yeah, killed it...came back after a few secs :)
[11:56] <cpk1> who is running it?
[11:56] <|ericsson|> haha, am I weird or what..I'm sitting here and laughing at this..
[11:57] <dwidmann> cpk1: that's the question
[11:57] <|ericsson|> aha! it stopped ;)
[11:57] <cpk1> top or ps should say who its running under
[11:57] <dwidmann> cpk1: if you've been following, |ericsson| has a supposedly compromised system
[11:57] <|ericsson|> cpk1: says out, nothing more
[11:58] <|ericsson|> now it's dead quiet..
[11:59] <|ericsson|> didn't do much to put on bastille ;)
[11:59] <Cosmo_> this is probably a stupid question but I have looked all over and can't seem to find it, I have a sound card and a USB headset, how do I set the sound to output to the USB headset?
[11:59] <|ericsson|> hmm..
[11:59] <|ericsson|> now telnet opened up :/
[11:59] <|ericsson|> "I will not surrender to the evil forces" :)
[12:00] <|ericsson|> hoho..
[12:00] <|ericsson|> su: Authentication failure
[12:00] <|ericsson|> Sorry.
[12:00] <|ericsson|> I'm starting to enjoy myself here )
[12:02] <|ericsson|> would wireshark help me now?
[12:02] <|ericsson|> or is pulling the plug a better option for tonight?
[12:02] <stoft> netstat/lsof maybe?
[12:03] <stoft> with directed output to a log of some kind and then halt -> go to bed?
[12:05] <|ericsson|> netstat -tap gave me ~30 open ports, 3103, 3311, 3345, 10434 and so on...
[12:06] <|ericsson|> I'm pulling the plug on this one now, can't be bothered tonight ;)
[12:06] <|ericsson|> probably a new installation tomorrow, did manage to do backup a few hours ago
[12:06] <stoft> g'luck, sleep tight
[12:07] <|ericsson|> stoft: nuku hyvin, or what did you say? ;)
[12:07] <stoft> yah, god natt or something like that :)
[12:07] <|ericsson|> stoft: Yeah, spot on mate..
[12:07] <|ericsson|> g'night ppl..
[12:08] <Inter--> Ok, so why does Firefox / some applications work, and console applications etc - But not Konqueror or Kopete etc.
[12:09] <Inter--> in KDE, with wireless connection, I've configured the connection from the KNetworkManager.
[12:09] <Inter--> An error occurred while loading http://google.com:
[12:09] <Inter--> Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[12:10] <stoft> Inter--: no idea, but check over your network configuration in konqueror, proxy config and similar, most kde apps defer to that configuration.
[12:12] <Inter--> i'm using "Konversation" atm, stoft :)
[12:12] <stoft> k, in that case I'd say it works... :-/
[12:12] <Inter--> i've checked proxy settings and the regular network settings in kde, nothing there saying it shouldnt work :(
[12:14] <Pete__> I feel dirty having msttcorefonts installed, is there some way to block it from being installed in future?
[12:14] <Cosmo_> I am not getting any sound through my USB headphones, how do I enable it, I checked and it shows that it is on in kmix