=== Lichte [n=cletus@unaffiliated/klementas] has left #ubuntu-java ["Ex-Chat"] === AfC [i=andrew@ppp122-233.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-192-196.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java === dharrigan [n=dharriga@annanova.torch.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === AfC [i=andrew@ppp122-233.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === dharrigan [n=dharriga@annanova.torch.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === AfC [i=andrew@ppp122-233.static.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-java [] === jamesstansell [n=jamessta@wsip-24-249-157-103.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === dharrigan [n=dharriga@annanova.torch.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-java === Zigurd [n=zigurd@static-68-236-123-210.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-java [08:41] Hello === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-073-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-java === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java === Lichte [n=cletus@unaffiliated/klementas] has joined #ubuntu-java [10:54] Hello [10:55] does anyone here package gnome-java ? [11:03] hmmm [11:03] hi Lichte [11:03] hi vil [11:03] no one I know so far [11:03] maybe I can try ask few other people [11:03] I did not hear about it [11:03] what is it good for? [11:04] can you send a link? [11:04] it is the bindings for programming gnome apps with java [11:04] the web site says that ubuntu has the newest version, but the only version I see is an old version of the depricated series [11:05] http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/ [11:06] I was surprised to see this [11:08] can you also send the link to the website you mention abovE? [11:08] http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/ [11:09] to whom ? [11:09] I mean regarding ubuntu [11:09] ah [11:09] http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/4.0/get/ [11:09] click on ubuntu [11:10] http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/4.0/get/ubuntu.php === Zigurd [n=zigurd@static-68-236-123-210.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-java [] [11:15] ok, now I see it [11:15] doko seems to be behind the latest version in ubuntu [11:16] debian seems to be even few versions behind [11:16] best if you ask doko about this, but he tends to be busy so he is hard to get [11:16] OK [11:16] thanks much vil [11:17] I am sure, he will have no objections, if you would like to package the new version yourself ;) [11:17] great [11:17] I'd like to help out if I can [11:17] can it be backported to feisty ? [11:18] or will it have to go in the next version ? [11:18] if the build remained the same after the version bump, it could be quite easy [11:18] there is a process for getting updates to stable releases (currently feisty) [11:18] so yes, it can get there [11:18] OK [11:19] what is the name of the next version ? [11:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU?action=show&redirect=MOTU%2FProcesses%2FSRU [11:19] feisty+1 is called gutsy [11:19] gutsy gibbon [11:19] ah [11:20] I've heard gutsy, but I was wondering gutsy what :) [11:24] thanks vil, I'll try and get hold of doko [11:26] ok, he might be in better position to help you [11:27] I may try my hand at a package and apply it to my system [11:27] for general packaging questions there is #ubuntu-motu channel [11:27] whether or not it's used by ubuntu [11:28] yeah, I was just in -motu [11:29] is there a usable version of feisty+1 yet ? [11:29] anyway, if you succeed at you system, you can always come here to share with all of us :) [11:29] OK :) [11:29] yes, I am personally already running on gutsy [11:29] oh ? [11:30] interesting [11:30] you need to just switch the apt sources [11:30] I thought that was all that was required [11:30] however, the development version can break anytime and it is not supposed to be used in "production" [11:30] just change feisty to gutsy in the apt sources ? [11:31] and leave everything else the same ? [11:32] I hope I am not telling you some lies, that's just the way I am used to [11:32] you cannot go wrong if you check with other motus on that channel [11:32] OK [11:33] well, there has to be a way to upgrade to gutsy since there's no cd yet available [11:34] everything is written in wiki, so my answer to this is [11:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28release%29 [11:34] :) [11:35] ok, nearly everything [11:37] lol [11:37] yeah === AfC [i=andrew@ppp122-233.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-java [11:40] what's a pbuilder ? [11:41] a tool to make sure, your new package will build on the build machine [11:41] Lichte: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/pbuilder-doc/pbuilder-doc.html#aim says Google [11:44] vil: do you run gutsy in a chroot environment ? [11:44] I have heard a number of people bitching about it, noting that the "minimum cleanroom install" of a GNOME package amounts to an entire operating system. But that's life :) [11:46] Lichte, no I run it as my primary os [11:46] I see [11:47] I went through whole feisty like that and had no bigger issue, but as I said there can be problems and there is nobody to blame for it [11:47] I understand that [11:48] when I first tried Linux, there were no distributions [11:48] imagine how stable that was ;) [11:49] not much ;) [11:49] vil: do you do apt-get distupgrade or do you use the update manager thingy ? [11:49] thingy [11:49] ok [11:49] most of the time [11:49] :) [11:50] it gives you changelogs, nice progress bar, you know... [11:50] well, I see the instructions to upgrade to feisty have changed......used to be you used apt-get, now the web site says to use update manager [11:50] I installed feisty from cd, no upgrade [11:51] not much I can say to that [11:52] few people told me about that already [11:54] I was just wondering if apt-get dist-upgrade was broken or something [11:57] Lichte, I see you already tried luck at #ubuntu-motu about that [11:57] yeah :) [11:57] maybe a lot of people went to sleep already [11:57] probably [11:58] that's ok [11:58] I'll just make that changes to my sources and let 'er rip [11:58] that is a good question to ask, you may also try to ask on some mailing lists or forum [11:58] OK [11:58] there is a lot of communication channels, but some of them take time [11:58] true :) [11:59] anyway, if website tells update manger, I would say go for it [12:00] ok, I get it, you are asking because of gutsy [12:00] update manager will help you when a new stable is out [12:04] yeah === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-java [12:09] see you [12:10] see ya vil