[01:08] <MenZa> jenda, ping
[01:37] <jenda> MenZa: pong
[01:38] <MenZa> jenda: nevermind, I caught nalioth
[01:38] <jenda> hehe, ok
[01:38] <jenda> good night.
[01:38] <MenZa> (freenode business)
[01:38] <MenZa> night!
[03:15] <rjian> hello beuno 
[03:16] <beuno> hey rjian
[03:16] <rjian> beuno: how are you?
[03:16] <beuno> good good, you?
[03:21] <beuno> Burgwork, ping
[03:36] <rjian> beuno: doesnt have event here in Philippines :)
[03:36] <beuno> rjian: what?
[03:37] <rjian> beuno: i mean theres no FOSS event here in Philippines
[03:37] <rjian> :D
[03:37] <beuno> aaaah, right
[03:37] <beuno> we had one on saturday  :D
[03:38] <rjian> beuno: Malayasia will also has a FOSS event this comming may 8 hehehe 
[04:20] <beuno> elkbuntu, ping?
[04:49] <Vorian> what up g?
[10:55] <beuno> jenda, long shot ping?
[10:55] <jenda> beuno: short cut pong
[10:56] <beuno> you've got a very wierd schedule, you know that?
[10:57] <jenda> beuno: why's that, it's 11 AM? :)
[10:57] <beuno> well, ok, I have a weird schedule :p
[11:26] <jenda> yo, juliux 
[11:27] <juliux> hey jenda 
[11:30] <MenZa> lol
[11:33] <jenda> MenZa?
[11:33] <MenZa> 10:55 < beuno> well, ok, I have a weird schedule :p
[03:20] <Vorian> ping juliux 
[03:20] <juliux> Vorian, pong
[03:20] <Vorian> hey there :)
[03:20] <Vorian> whats you pay pal addy?
[03:58] <Tm_T> hmm
[04:01] <Tm_T> noticed something interesting, dunno which one came first but looks like there's some similarity: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/k-ed-ubuntu/kedubuntu-basic-03.svg vs http://fullcirclemagazine.org/Themes/Aero79_smf11RC3_TP/images/img_terra/logo.gif
[04:03] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, the tm-travolta one. Modified 04/02/06 19:03:00
[04:03] <elkbuntu> check teh page info ;)
[04:03] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: heh, actually mine is older than that ;)
[04:03] <elkbuntu> that just means that was when it was put on the web
[04:04] <Tm_T> yes
[04:04] <Tm_T> I was bit surprised when I saw that magazine logo :)
[04:05] <elkbuntu> aside from that, it wouldnt take a genius to 'design' that from the logos ;)
[04:05] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I know, that's why I was able to do that =)
[04:05] <elkbuntu> hehe
[04:06] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: my motivation to do that "compilation" was to show people it's all the same family
[04:07] <elkbuntu> of course
[04:07] <Tm_T> somehow people don't understand that they are the same package with different paintjob
[04:07] <Tm_T> sort of
[05:53] <juliux> hey Ckenyon 
[05:54] <elkbuntu> Ckenyon, grats :)
[05:54] <elkbuntu> (on the inevitable ;))
[05:54] <Ckenyon> Hey juliux - Good afternoon
[05:56] <Ckenyon> elkbuntu: Well done to you and everyone else involved - this is a community effort
[05:56] <elkbuntu> Ckenyon, of course :)
[05:57] <elkbuntu> now, if dreamhost would un-die, i could blog a happy dance
[06:00] <jenda> :)
[09:52] <profoX`> juliux: hi, are you there ?
[09:54] <profoX`> juliux: the wiki (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LocoTeam/Shirt) says that polo's and shirts can't be ordered anymore..? (I'm talking about the navy blue ones S-XXL) You told me I was still able to order those. Can I still do that?
[09:55] <profoX`> juliux: and until which date do you think I will be able to order those, so I can take orders for the BE Loco team.
[09:56] <juliux> profoX`, that is the old a very old wikipage
[09:57] <juliux> profoX`, i can't change this wikipage because the wiki is readonly still the beginning of april
[09:57] <juliux> profoX`, and yes you can order the shirts 
[09:58] <profoX`> juliux: oh okay
[09:58] <profoX`> juliux: until which date do you think? I would like to place an order around 15 may, is that still possible then?
[09:59] <juliux> profoX`, did you want blue or black ones?
[09:59] <profoX`> juliux: well, I'd like the people at ubuntu-be to choose for themselves, but I thought you said only blue was still available?
[10:00] <juliux> profoX`, black ones we will only make with a reservation
[10:01] <juliux> we will make 50 blue t-shirts and 100 blue poloshirts to sell them on the next fairs in germany so you can get blue ones with out a reservation but if the size is out it's out
[10:01] <profoX`> juliux: okay
[10:01] <profoX`> juliux: but the reservation had to be in by today, so it has to be blue now.. right? and what will you do if the size is out? choose another size?
[10:03] <juliux> profoX`, i will call the producer for the shirts Thursday morning
[10:03] <juliux> profoX`, so thursaday 8:00 in the morning is the last time i nee the reservation
[10:03] <profoX`> juliux: reservation without money? otherwise I think the bank transfer might be too slow
[10:03] <juliux> reservation with out money is ok
[10:03] <profoX`> juliux: okay, I will pass all the info on to ubuntu-be
[10:04] <juliux> profoX`, if i get your order for the blue shirts bevor 29th may you have a good chance to get all sizes you want
[10:04] <profoX`> juliux: I will let you know wednesday night/thursday morning for the reservations, through mail.
[10:04] <profoX`> juliux: is that okay?
[10:05] <profoX`> (for the black ones I mean)
[10:05] <juliux> profoX`, but on the 29th may starts the linuxtag in berlin/germany and there we will sell the shirts;)
[10:05] <profoX`> juliux: okay, good to know :)
[10:05] <mindspin> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11144.html
[10:05] <juliux> mindspin, check sounder;)
[10:08] <juliux> profoX`, mail is ok
[10:42] <gnrfan> hi there
[10:42] <gnrfan> didn't know the ubuntu marketing community was so big! great to see you all here :)
[10:46] <beuno> hey gnrfan :D
[10:47] <gnrfan> beuno: hey.. nice to see you again
[10:47] <gnrfan> beuno: well, i've just watched Mark's interview at Dell's blog
[10:47] <gnrfan> beuno: I was wondering if there was a transcript available because I wanted to translate it into spanish
[10:48] <beuno> gnrfan: link?
[10:48] <gnrfan> beuno: I liked the interview and think they discuss very interesting current topics
[10:48] <gnrfan> beuno: oh let me go get it for you
[10:48] <gnrfan> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dell-to-offer-ubuntu
[10:48] <gnrfan> http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/01/13147.aspx
[10:49] <beuno> gnrfan: no transcript that I know of, but thanks for the links  :D
[10:50] <beuno> jenda, maybe that would make it public enough?
[10:50] <gnrfan> beuno: I guess it's the kind of material you include in UWN right?
[10:51] <jenda> hmm?
[10:51] <beuno> gnrfan: absolutely, add it  :D
[10:51] <jenda> hello gnrfan
[10:51] <beuno> jenda: links above
[10:51] <gnrfan> jenda: nice to see you again
[10:52] <jenda> gnrfan: where did we meet, if you don't mind me asking? :)
[10:52] <gnrfan> i'd offer to make the translation if I had more spare time available.. english is not my mother tongue but I could give it a try
[10:52] <beuno> jenda: in the open week  :D
[10:52] <gnrfan> jenda: not in person, here on irc the other day during the marketing session of Ubuntu Open Week
[10:53] <gnrfan> nice.. jono has just joined us :)
[10:53] <jono> yo
[10:53] <gnrfan> beuno, jenda: I'd like to talk a bit about this question I asked the other day during the marketing session of Ubuntu Open Week
[10:53] <beuno> gnrfan: I've already advertised your service around to other members wanting hackergotchis
[10:54] <beuno> gnrfan: sure
[10:54] <gnrfan> beuno: oh for sure
[10:54] <jenda> gnrfan: ah :)
[10:55] <gnrfan> well.. I wanted to know if there was in existence a standard presentation on Ubuntu I could pick at any time to improvise a presentation with a group of friends or If i'm suddenly invited to talk in a Linux group meeting or something
[10:56] <beuno> jono: still no news on the planet incident?
[10:56] <gnrfan> I think something like that would be great.. I'd volunteer to keep an spanish translation updated but guess I don't have the time to "mantain" such presentation nor update it with latest news and highlights
[10:56] <jono> ok, I investigated the planet incident
[10:56] <jono> fabian announced the story before the press embargo was done, and he should not have done
[10:56] <gnrfan> beuno: what happened?
[10:57] <jono> because of the emargo, Canonical could have been in breach of contract and hence asked him to remove the blog entry, which is fine
[10:57] <jono> it was also asked to remove the people from the planet to prevent distribution of the blog
[10:57] <jono> now, I think it was bad to poke with the planet
[10:58] <jono> and I am going to be investigating the issue further and working to ensure this does not happen again
[10:58] <jono> I think to be honest it was a moment of panic
[10:58] <jenda> gnrfan: there was something on the wiki...
[10:59] <beuno> great, thanks for clearing that up, I can imagine it was a drastic measure, thanks for going into that jono, and sorry for all the frenzy
[10:59] <jono> its cool, I think tampering with the planet sucks imho, and I am keen that this does not happen again
[10:59] <jono> rest assured, its at the top of my TODO list
[11:00] <beuno> great, that gives me piece of mind jono
[11:00] <beuno> but why is it still frozen?
[11:00] <jono> :)
[11:00] <gnrfan> jenda: any thread or something I can read to learn about that incident? just curious
[11:00] <jono> beuno: no idea, I think our sysadmins just need to get to it, and many are travelling to spain
[11:01] <gnrfan> beuno: Gal Csaba has requested a hackergotchi so far.. i'm working on it right now
[11:01] <jenda> beuno: peace, not piece ;)
[11:01] <jenda> gnrfan: just a sec
[11:01] <beuno> right, np, which reminds me, I need someone to represent me with a spec in UDS, Burgwork?
[11:01] <Burgwork> sure
[11:01] <gnrfan> jenda: guess all things planets and blogs interest me
[11:01] <Burgwork> which one?
[11:01] <beuno> jenda: heh, you're right, totally different  :p
[11:02] <gnrfan> btw are you aware of the Feedjack planet software? 
[11:02] <beuno> Burgwork: fetching the links
[11:02] <gnrfan> The planet code by jdub is a fine program but this other one has many nice features.. you can check it out at www.feedjack.org, it's also written in Python but using the Django framework
[11:02] <jenda> gnrfan: the problem here was that several blog posts were deleted from the planet, because they carried info about the Canonical-Dell deal, without the posters even being told.
[11:03] <beuno> Burgwork: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-stats-enhancement
[11:04] <jenda> gnrfan: where are you from?
[11:04] <gnrfan> jenda: Oh I see... were the posters infringing some well-known policy or something?
[11:04] <gnrfan> jenda: Peru
[11:04] <jenda> gnrfan: not at all
[11:04] <gnrfan> jenda: the author of Feedjack is a friend of mine, from here, Lima-Peru too
[11:04] <jenda> gnrfan: but the information was under embargo, which only one of them could have known.
[11:04] <Burgwork> there currently is no editorial policy
[11:04] <Burgwork> jono: sorry, I missed what you said
[11:05] <Burgwork> except one of the posts was resonding to another rumour at desktoplinux.com
[11:05] <gnrfan> sure I understand there are situations that hasn't been thought of before but you have to act in some way
[11:06] <Burgwork> I understand removing the employee post
[11:06] <Burgwork> the other two were not acceptable
[11:06] <gnrfan> Well, I found this video and post on Digg a few hours ago
[11:07] <gnrfan> jono: changing a bit the subject, what do you think about this sort of standar Ubuntu presentation anyone can take at any point and give a presentation with for his friends or LUG???
[11:07] <jono> gnrfan: would be good to have one :)
[11:08] <gnrfan> jono: I'm sure you have many variants I guess
[11:08] <jono> gnrfan: my slides are not good to use, my style is less conventional
[11:08] <gnrfan> jono: but I was thinking of one a bit more PR-oriented
[11:09] <jono> right
[11:09] <gnrfan> jono: i've never seen a presention by you on Ubuntu, just a talk on Jokosher at Google Video I guess
[11:10] <beuno> gnrfan: http://beuno.com.ar/archives/5
[11:10] <gnrfan> jono: A few weeks ago I asked a similar question to the guys at OpenDNS.com
[11:10] <gnrfan> jono: after a couple mail exchanges they mailed me one presentation
[11:10] <jenda> gnrfan: have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations
[11:11] <gnrfan> jono: I guess it's OK, problem is I want to have it translated into spanish and most slides were graphics taken away from their website thar are already composed not easy to translate
[11:11] <jono> right
[11:11] <gnrfan> jenda: Ok, let me have a look
[11:12] <gnrfan> oh! btw! should accessing the wiki over https be mandatory?
[11:12] <beuno> Burgwork: please take a peak at the spec when you can, I still have to do some work on it, but Joey told me it would be best to get someone at UDS to talk to carlos abolut it
[11:12] <gnrfan> I currently have https as a whole blocked at the office i'm working for in a project and can't access the wiki :(
[11:13] <gnrfan> guess i've tried removing the "s" and I get redirected to the https url
[11:15] <jenda> gnrfan: I'm afraid the wiki does that... and I have no clue if it can be changed. You might have more luck with the doc team there.
[11:15] <gnrfan> jono: I would have been great to have you at Debconf last year in Mexico, I was there and met Mark
[11:15] <jono> yeah, I am gonna try to get to the one in the UK
[11:16] <gnrfan> jono: and I think you'll be attending Debconf this year since it's in the UK.. Any idea on attending Debconf 8 in Mar del Plata, Argentina next year?
[11:16] <jono> gnrfan: will try to get there :)
[11:16] <Burgwork> beuno: subscribed and proposed for sevilla
[11:16] <gnrfan> jono: that would be great
[11:16] <Burgwork> beuno: who else do you need?
[11:16] <beuno> Burgwork: thanks so much, I'll work on it to get it more polished
[11:17] <gnrfan> jenda: can I find them over irc?
[11:17] <jono> brb
[11:17] <jenda> gnrfan: sure - #ubuntu-doc
[11:17] <Burgwork> beuno: subscribe the LP dev responsible
[11:17] <gnrfan> jenda: k going there then
[11:17] <jenda> gnrfan: and also, you can bother nixternal right here :)
[11:17] <beuno> Burgwork: I was told Carlos would be the one doing it
[11:18] <Burgwork> beuno: you need to subscribe him to the spec
[11:19] <gnrfan> jenda: all right :)
[11:19] <gnrfan> jenda: where are you from?
[11:19] <jenda> gnrfan: Czech Republic
[11:19] <gnrfan> jenda: oh nice
[11:19] <beuno> Burgwork: right, suscribing him now
[11:20] <gnrfan> beuno: as you can tell a bit by nick i'm a big Guns N' Roses fan.. I guess I mentioned the other day I went to Argentina to see Velvet Revolver.. man what a great pair of shows they put together there...
[11:21] <beuno> gnrfan: really? I was trying to interpret your nick in a "gnu" sort of way  :D
[11:21] <gnrfan> beuno: guess it's kind of cool it works a bit that way in a FLOSS environment yeah :)
[11:22] <gnrfan> beuno: even my lastname has the "gn" bit hehe
[11:22] <beuno> Burgwork: thanks a lot, I know you've already got a lot on your plate  :D
[11:22] <Burgwork> well, I am busy working on what I want to do at UDS
[11:23] <beuno> there's no way I can make it, I've already got a trip planned in July
[11:25] <gnrfan> Where does UBZ takes place?? uhm.. googling it.. oh! montreal!
[11:26] <gnrfan> I have a peruvian friend moving to Quebec in a few weeks.. he's an Ubuntu user so I wanted to point him to that conf
[11:26] <beuno> gnrfan: UDS, and it's in Sevilla, Spain
[11:28] <gnrfan> beuno: sure but I was talking about Ubuntu Below Zero
[11:28] <beuno> ooooh, sorry
[11:28] <gnrfan> beuno: the other one is the Developer Summit I guess
[11:30] <gnrfan> beuno: I would be great to visit Spain.. I even have family over there.. but don't have the money right now..  but i'm sure i'm making it there for any FLOSS conference at any point soon I hope
[11:30] <gnrfan> s/I/It
[11:30] <gnrfan> beuno: there are so many ;)
[11:30] <beuno> gnrfan: did you participate in Flisol on saturday?
[11:31] <Burgwork> gnrfan: UBZ was a historical UDS
[11:31] <gnrfan> beuno: sure.. I gave a talk on the Linux command line.. I guess it worked pretty well
[11:31] <Burgwork> happened in 2005
[11:31] <gnrfan> Burgwork: nice to know
[11:31] <gnrfan> Burgwork: but no Ubuntu conference is taking place periodically in North America?
[11:33] <gnrfan> beuno: My talk was one of the firsts.. Here in Lima we had two sites for FLISOL.. since it's a big city..  talks were scheduled four in parallel each hour from 9 to 12 and the from 2 to 6, mine was one of the talks at 10:00am
[11:33] <Burgwork> gnrfan: the UDSs rotate
[11:33] <Burgwork> next one after Sevilla is in Boston
[11:33] <gnrfan> Burgwork: I see
[11:34] <gnrfan> beuno: I was planning to return home early and catch up with some work and community work but then the whole atmosphere was so nice that I stayed the whole day
[11:35] <beuno> gnrfan: I stayes the whole day, but that was my plan from the start so...  but yeah, great atmosphere here too
[11:35] <gnrfan> beuno: and I spent the time taking bunch of pictures, chatting with the public, helping people participating in the workshops and meeting some old friends you only get to see in community events like this
[11:35] <beuno> Ubuntu was installed on 98% of the PCs
[11:36] <gnrfan> beuno: yeap I have news Ubuntu was the most installed distro too here in Lima
[11:37] <gnrfan> for others wondering what the heck FLISOL is, it's a huge install fest taking place the same day in more than 100 cities in Latin America
[11:37] <beuno> brb
[11:40] <gnrfan> beuno: one problem at the site I attended was they had internet connectivity at one network point but  no hub to share the link 
[11:41] <gnrfan> beuno: so for example a whole family came with their PC, they were even holding their baby with them.. they had a pentium III system with 128 megs of ram and only 2 GB of hard disk
[11:42] <gnrfan> beuno: my friends had the Ubuntu and Kubuntu discs but no others like Xubuntu or Flubuntu (I guess that's the name)
[11:42] <gnrfan> beuno: so they ended up installing Damn Small Linux which I removed to install Vector Linux
[11:43] <gnrfan> beuno: I'm not sure how easily we could have installed a minimal Ubuntu system + XFCE + selected applications from the Ubuntu alternative CD
[11:44] <BHSPitMonkey> yo
[11:44] <gnrfan> beuno: guess a minimal install + installing X and selected packages from the CD via apt would have worked but after the failed attempt with DSL this family wanted to go and we went for Vector
[11:51] <gnrfan> i'm watching the Herding Cats video right now
[11:53] <gnrfan> jono: was H0lger present in the public when you mention the guy with green hair? Is he who says i"t was me"? ;) 
[12:04] <jono> gnrfan: I think so
[12:04] <gnrfan> jono: german guy he's on the video team at Debconf
[12:07] <jono> cool
[12:07] <jono> right I am off
[12:07] <jono> later all! :)