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Admiral_Chicago | i'm here | 08:13 |
robitaille | and it sounds like you are the only one... :) | 08:16 |
asac | oh sorry | 08:16 |
asac | i am here now as well | 08:16 |
asac | had a phone call and time was running | 08:16 |
hjmf | I'm here but busy at this moment :( | 08:17 |
asac | gnomefreak: AlexLatchford hjmf here? | 08:17 |
AlexLatchford | Howdy | 08:17 |
gnomefreak | ok sorry im late | 08:17 |
AlexLatchford | Hmm, not many items on the agenda.. | 08:18 |
AlexLatchford | please feel free to add some asap | 08:18 |
asac | well we have an agenda | 08:18 |
gnomefreak | does someone want to chair so i can upload tbird? | 08:18 |
AlexLatchford | Freddy's turn? | 08:19 |
AlexLatchford | or do you want me to do it? | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | it is my turn | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | :) | 08:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'll do it | 08:19 |
gnomefreak | either or. if i do it we will be moving slow | 08:19 |
AlexLatchford | :) sure | 08:19 |
asac | go ahead Admiral_Chicago | 08:19 |
hjmf | now I'm really here too :) | 08:20 |
AlexLatchford | Admiral_Chicago: we starting? | 08:23 |
AlexLatchford | meh.. | 08:24 |
hjmf | ... | 08:24 |
gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: start with GUI consistency? | 08:25 |
AlexLatchford | Yeah guess so | 08:25 |
AlexLatchford | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/42263 | 08:25 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 42263 in firefox "Toolbar display should be "Icons and text" for consistency" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 08:25 |
hjmf | Admiral_Chicago has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | 08:25 |
AlexLatchford | Dunno if this is a real decision to make or not, but this was brought up that the GUI across the entire desktop is Icon + Wording.. | 08:26 |
AlexLatchford | Firefox is one of very few applications that does not follow this pattern.. | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | im personally happy with the way it is. i do believe you can set it to use both | 08:26 |
AlexLatchford | Yes, this is more the decision to turn it on by default to icons + text | 08:26 |
gnomefreak | adding text will make window show less (maybe only a little bit) but still shortens the page | 08:27 |
AlexLatchford | (You can set this by right clicking on the toolbar and hitting customise.. ) | 08:27 |
hjmf | IMHO icons are quite clear and I agree with gnomefreak | 08:27 |
AlexLatchford | asac: opinion? | 08:27 |
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Admiral_Chicago | sorry I got disconnected | 08:28 |
gnomefreak | asac: what do you think? | 08:28 |
gnomefreak | you hover over icons gives you text | 08:28 |
gnomefreak | we saw | 08:28 |
gnomefreak | :) | 08:28 |
AlexLatchford | I agree that the icons are very clear, but for consistencies sake, would it be better to use text also, I mean users can remove it if they wish | 08:28 |
gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: we started with GUi | 08:28 |
AlexLatchford | Admiral_Chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/42263 | 08:28 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 42263 in firefox "Toolbar display should be "Icons and text" for consistency" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 08:28 |
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gnomefreak | lets get everyone else to pull text out of apps J/K | 08:30 |
Admiral_Chicago | how is it built in XP? | 08:30 |
Admiral_Chicago | or Mac | 08:30 |
AlexLatchford | I believe without is default for firefox across the versions | 08:31 |
AlexLatchford | but the rest of Ubuntu uses Icons + Text | 08:31 |
Admiral_Chicago | iirc, that is the case as well | 08:31 |
hjmf | maybe because ff ends up with 4 horizontal bars | 08:31 |
hjmf | menu, icons, markers, tags ... | 08:32 |
hjmf | *tabs | 08:32 |
AlexLatchford | hjmf: hmm, yes when you say that I see it | 08:32 |
gnomefreak | im not seeing a good reason to change it yet. the reason being given is because everyone else does it | 08:32 |
AlexLatchford | well yes, thats the issue, I personally would change it back if text was there.. | 08:32 |
gnomefreak | im not saying its a bad idea at all | 08:33 |
hjmf | yes, no big deal I would change it back too | 08:33 |
Admiral_Chicago | i think with the menu bar, the nav bar and the bookmarks folders, another row of text is intentionally left out | 08:33 |
gnomefreak | what other browsers in ubuntu have text and icons? | 08:33 |
AlexLatchford | gnomefreak: not sure.. | 08:33 |
gnomefreak | epiphany does and iceape does atm | 08:34 |
gnomefreak | i dont have others to test right now | 08:34 |
AlexLatchford | me neither | 08:34 |
hjmf | opera seg fault for me right now :0 | 08:35 |
AlexLatchford | hmm.. well Thunderbird has Icons + Text | 08:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | Konqui does not iirc | 08:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | let me check | 08:35 |
AlexLatchford | is asac about? | 08:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | not yet | 08:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | i think KDE4 will implement that | 08:35 |
AlexLatchford | KDE4 will have icons + text? | 08:35 |
gnomefreak | i dont have opera installed since my hd crashed | 08:36 |
gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: i think so yes | 08:36 |
AlexLatchford | hmm.. okay | 08:36 |
AlexLatchford | Go for a vote on this? | 08:36 |
hjmf | I had a version of mozilla and it doesnt | 08:36 |
gnomefreak | -1 | 08:36 |
AlexLatchford | +1 | 08:36 |
hjmf | -1 | 08:36 |
AlexLatchford | (for desktop consistency reasons) | 08:37 |
gnomefreak | how many people on that bug replied they want it? | 08:37 |
AlexLatchford | good point.. | 08:37 |
ogra | how is hardcoding such a thing consistent ? make it read the default desktop settings and use what they define | 08:37 |
gnomefreak | if its only 1 or 2 than no sense in it | 08:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | what would +1/-1 mean? | 08:37 |
hjmf | think on small screens 15' or lower | 08:37 |
AlexLatchford | +1 for adding text.. -1 for leaving it off | 08:38 |
AlexLatchford | gnomefreak: you have a very good point there | 08:38 |
hjmf | its an *aditional* bar | 08:38 |
Admiral_Chicago | -1 | 08:38 |
gnomefreak | we are here to please the masses not 3 people IMO | 08:38 |
AlexLatchford | cool | 08:38 |
AlexLatchford | Okay, I will close the report now then | 08:39 |
AlexLatchford | with the decision.. | 08:39 |
gnomefreak | wait for asac on that | 08:39 |
gnomefreak | he may have a point we are not seeing | 08:39 |
hjmf | yes, lets wait till the meeting finishes | 08:39 |
hjmf | if he is around which i believe | 08:40 |
Admiral_Chicago | i suggest we move on and we can poll alex when he returns | 08:40 |
AlexLatchford | okay.. I will draft the issue reply :P | 08:40 |
AlexLatchford | okay | 08:40 |
gnomefreak | btw repo is down atm | 08:40 |
Admiral_Chicago | give me a sec | 08:40 |
hjmf | k | 08:40 |
gnomefreak | mv Packages.gz dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/ | 08:40 |
gnomefreak | oh shoot | 08:40 |
gnomefreak | ignore that | 08:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | next agenda item: Mozilla Testing Team by Alex. | 08:41 |
AlexLatchford | okay | 08:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: talking to your terminal again? | 08:41 |
gnomefreak | yep :) | 08:41 |
AlexLatchford | Well this was something we brought up last meeting.. | 08:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | i do that too after a while, try to run commands in irssi | 08:41 |
AlexLatchford | Getting a team of people who are contactable for testing specific issues | 08:41 |
AlexLatchford | maybe via a mailing list or something | 08:42 |
gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: im gonna ok this one. we have a few (10+) testing preview archive atm | 08:42 |
Admiral_Chicago | oh crap, let me add something to the agenda. link in a sec | 08:42 |
AlexLatchford | Think we should try to set up a mailing list, LP team to get it going a bit more formally | 08:42 |
gnomefreak | the problem being and this i knew before hand. we are not getting the testing on what NEEDS to be tested | 08:42 |
Admiral_Chicago | i disagree with the ML and LP team however | 08:43 |
AlexLatchford | Is the changelog listing ideas we discussed last meeting going anywhere? | 08:43 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'm not sure there is enough people to be pushing for those things | 08:43 |
gnomefreak | tbird2 and iceape are the packages i wanted tested more than anything because they are going into gutsy. ffox3 will not be in gutsy | 08:43 |
AlexLatchford | agreed | 08:43 |
AlexLatchford | the team will be formally tasked then to test packages that need testing.. say setting a 2 weekly testing agenda or something | 08:44 |
AlexLatchford | so you can test specific issues intensely | 08:44 |
Admiral_Chicago | AlexLatchford: that i like more than just setting the team, I wouldn't care if you used the MT ML for that | 08:45 |
gnomefreak | can we please defer this one more meeting? | 08:45 |
hjmf | maybe a team and people from it reporting bugs in LP (for karma points) can be motivational for them | 08:45 |
AlexLatchford | hjmf: yes, it can be an introduction into the team | 08:45 |
asac | damn :) | 08:45 |
Riddell | AlexLatchford: yes, kde 4 apps have icons+text | 08:45 |
AlexLatchford | currently there are not many *easy* tasks for new people.. | 08:45 |
asac | that happens if you stare in wrong channel | 08:45 |
Admiral_Chicago | crap, I realized I have to run to class in 5, maybe 10 minutes. | 08:45 |
AlexLatchford | Riddell: ta :) | 08:46 |
gnomefreak | asac: lol | 08:46 |
hjmf | lol | 08:46 |
gnomefreak | asac: +1 or -1 for icons and text? | 08:46 |
AlexLatchford | heh | 08:46 |
asac | ouch let me read it | 08:46 |
Admiral_Chicago | okay, AlexLatchford i'll have to cut in front of you, I hope that's okay | 08:46 |
AlexLatchford | gnomefreak: you wish to defer the testing decision until the next meeting? | 08:46 |
AlexLatchford | Admiral_Chicago: sure thing bud :) | 08:46 |
gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: i would like to get with asac on this and come up with a way to do this nicely | 08:47 |
asac | what is current consent on the text icon stuff? | 08:47 |
Admiral_Chicago | Okay, on to the last agenda item (sorry for the jumping) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings | 08:47 |
gnomefreak | -1 for more clutter | 08:47 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: -1 from me. (against text and icons) | 08:47 |
AlexLatchford | 0 from me now, seeing the light of 15" monitior discussion | 08:48 |
AlexLatchford | leaning towards -1 | 08:48 |
asac | so epiphany has text + icons by default? mine hasn't :) | 08:48 |
gnomefreak | yes mine dies | 08:48 |
gnomefreak | and i didnt change it | 08:48 |
asac | i am -1 ... firefox should be the way its known to users of other OSes | 08:48 |
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AlexLatchford | okay settled | 08:49 |
ogra | asac, epi uses gnomes default settings ... | 08:49 |
Admiral_Chicago | okay we will come back to the discussion on testing team | 08:49 |
gnomefreak | yay it works :) | 08:49 |
asac | ogra: yes ... i was just not sure, because i changed it long ago i guess | 08:49 |
Admiral_Chicago | I have to push this last agenda item before class, we started a bit later than I hoped | 08:49 |
hjmf | -1 as stated above (hope not too late) :) | 08:49 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: ok whats the state? | 08:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | We had decided earlier to create a Mozilla Council with david, alex, alex, john, hjmf and myself | 08:50 |
gnomefreak | i would like to get all mozilla apps in testing repo before we have ateam | 08:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: we are hoping, sorry | 08:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | hopping around* | 08:50 |
asac | Yes, clue files, right? | 08:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | so, we also decided to defer it from being active until after Feisty was out | 08:51 |
Admiral_Chicago | sorry, everyone look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings | 08:52 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: no, mozill council | 08:52 |
asac | ah ok | 08:52 |
asac | what do you suggest? | 08:52 |
Admiral_Chicago | now that feisty is out, we should vote to activate the council officially | 08:52 |
hjmf | ah ok I was lost ;) | 08:52 |
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Admiral_Chicago | so we would have a council which works actively in Mozilla and helps bring in new people | 08:53 |
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gnomefreak | bad part everyone here is on the council so is a vote needed? | 08:53 |
hjmf | all the MT is the council right now | 08:53 |
Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: no, we said it wouldn't take effect until after feisty | 08:53 |
gnomefreak | oh | 08:53 |
Admiral_Chicago | hjmf: there are a few people on the LP page (iirc) that are not | 08:53 |
gnomefreak | correct | 08:53 |
hjmf | ok lets formally activated it | 08:53 |
hjmf | *activate | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | lol | 08:54 |
asac | yeah | 08:54 |
asac | done i think | 08:54 |
Admiral_Chicago | yep, votes to active it? | 08:54 |
Admiral_Chicago | +1 | 08:54 |
AlexLatchford | +1 | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | thats what im thinking (how do we do that) | 08:54 |
AlexLatchford | what does activation entail? | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | should we maybe bring it to CC? | 08:54 |
Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: david said there was no need | 08:54 |
AlexLatchford | yeah he did | 08:54 |
Admiral_Chicago | we would just fall under the CC | 08:54 |
gnomefreak | ok than its activated. what next :) | 08:55 |
AlexLatchford | believe he asked Jono | 08:55 |
hjmf | +1 | 08:55 |
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Admiral_Chicago | progress of clue files... | 08:55 |
AlexLatchford | (Testing Team is deferred until next meeting yes?) | 08:55 |
Admiral_Chicago | Alex has worked on a lot on bughelper and we have a lot of progress | 08:55 |
gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: yeah because im not sure how much ill be here in the next 2 weeks | 08:56 |
gnomefreak | and ill forget with gutsy packages. | 08:56 |
Admiral_Chicago | now that LP is out of beta, we can open up the mentoring to everyone | 08:56 |
asac | i think we are in a good state from bughelper, though we still don't have split output of bughelper results .. .e.g. one page by task | 08:56 |
Admiral_Chicago | So I think Alex, I can get to pumping out some good clue files | 08:57 |
gnomefreak | if asac stays up long enough i will talk to him in #u-mt about a few things withit | 08:57 |
hjmf | asac: right, actual page is a mess | 08:57 |
asac | anyway ... we could start to populate clue files with prominent stack signatures | 08:57 |
Admiral_Chicago | I have to run to class. someone please take over as chair | 08:57 |
asac | so it starts to find dups for us | 08:57 |
Admiral_Chicago | good luck guys | 08:57 |
hjmf | cu | 08:58 |
asac | maybe we can even write something to automatically generate stack signature clue snippets | 08:58 |
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asac | from MASTER bugs | 08:58 |
asac | hjmf: since you work most on stack sigs, you think you can add new MASTER bug signatures to bughelper clues? | 08:59 |
AlexLatchford | sounds like a good idea.. | 08:59 |
hjmf | yes I can, but first I still have to master bughelper docs :-P | 08:59 |
AlexLatchford | how is the retrace backlog situation going? | 08:59 |
asac | i think hjmf fixed it :) | 08:59 |
asac | with amazing work | 08:59 |
hjmf | :) | 09:00 |
AlexLatchford | Good job bud :) | 09:00 |
hjmf | thank you guys | 09:00 |
asac | Karma: 6797 | 09:01 |
hjmf | the problem with bughelper finding dups is that first the bugs have to be retraced | 09:01 |
asac | yes right | 09:01 |
hjmf | and right now each retrace I do automatically searches for stack signatures so dups are easily founded w/o bughelper | 09:01 |
asac | how do you search for duplicate stack signatures? | 09:02 |
asac | just search field? | 09:02 |
hjmf | as long as they are in summary | 09:02 |
hjmf | [@xxxxx] | 09:02 |
asac | yes ... soon apport will automatically add need-XXX-retrace tag on submission | 09:02 |
asac | then we will have retraced results ... but in attachments | 09:03 |
asac | thats when bughelper stuff might come handy | 09:03 |
hjmf | firefox -remote "openurl(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/${PACKAGE}/+bugs?field.searchtext=${STACK_SIGNATURE}&orderby=-datecreated,new-window)" | 09:03 |
hjmf | asac: right | 09:03 |
asac | what is stack signature for you? ... each single line? | 09:03 |
asac | e.g. do you extract it automatically? | 09:04 |
hjmf | = | 09:04 |
hjmf | eval "$(strip_stack $BUG_RETRACE | sed -n '/#4 / {s/#4 \+\(.[^ ] *\) .*/STACK_SIGNATURE="\1"/p;}; /#5 / {s/#5 \+\(.[^ ] *\) .*/STACK_SIGNATURE_1="\1"/p;q}')" | 09:04 |
hjmf | its usually the #4 stack | 09:04 |
hjmf | after the #3 <....> | 09:04 |
hjmf | #3 <signal handler called> | 09:04 |
asac | how many don't fit into that pattern? | 09:04 |
hjmf | not too many | 09:04 |
hjmf | and I look at them always | 09:05 |
hjmf | as it is interactive | 09:05 |
hjmf | :) | 09:05 |
asac | hmm | 09:05 |
hjmf | it is working with most of the reports and matches upstream searches too | 09:06 |
hjmf | those ones are done by hand though | 09:06 |
asac | how do you do upstream searches? | 09:07 |
asac | ... or what do you mean by "matches upstream searches too" ? | 09:07 |
hjmf | http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp | 09:07 |
hjmf | but by hand | 09:07 |
hjmf | http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/firefox/ | 09:07 |
hjmf | .. thunder bird | 09:08 |
hjmf | ah, sorry, I was talking about the stacktraces from upstream reports | 09:08 |
asac | oh ok. | 09:08 |
asac | so what do you do with them atm? | 09:08 |
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hjmf | ? | 09:09 |
asac | i mean how do you integrate upstream talkbacks in your current helper tool? | 09:10 |
hjmf | As I stated that work is manual, it is not integrated, though I had a couple of scripts to 'beautify' our stacks to compare better | 09:11 |
hjmf | with upstream ones | 09:11 |
asac | ah ok | 09:11 |
hjmf | sed stuff to leave function calls | 09:11 |
asac | so you have some kind of stack "normalization" code? | 09:11 |
hjmf | yes | 09:12 |
gnomefreak | is the meeting over? | 09:12 |
asac | we are still talking :) | 09:12 |
hjmf | I think we are boring you :) | 09:12 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 09:12 |
asac | still no idea what to do with clue files i guess | 09:12 |
gnomefreak | no i have other things im tending to | 09:12 |
asac | actually on the long run it would make sense to have clues for stack duplicates | 09:12 |
asac | question is whether we can generate them automatically | 09:12 |
asac | e.g. from MASTER bug title | 09:13 |
hjmf | asac: I agree. But currently is no need | 09:13 |
hjmf | but I can work on them | 09:13 |
asac | hjmf: how about generating them from search results and bug title | 09:13 |
asac | should be pretty simple, right? | 09:14 |
hjmf | yes | 09:14 |
asac | good ... ok ... so no need to hurry in order to match crash duplicates | 09:14 |
hjmf | though my idea in short term is working in pythonize my scripts to integrate them with the classes in bughelper, apport, and so on | 09:15 |
asac | hjmf: that would be magnificent | 09:15 |
asac | we have launchpad integration for instance | 09:15 |
hjmf | yes but I wont be very confident as of my way of scripting | 09:15 |
hjmf | :) | 09:15 |
asac | why? | 09:15 |
hjmf | as it works it's ok for me | 09:15 |
hjmf | even if it is a mess :) | 09:16 |
asac | hehe | 09:16 |
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asac | if you plan to improve launchpad integration and bughelper ocode, there are probably plenty of people willing to help | 09:17 |
hjmf | I'll do some draft and I'll push to bzr as a branch or something | 09:17 |
asac | yes | 09:17 |
asac | thats good | 09:17 |
asac | ok ... we have another item on agenda? | 09:17 |
asac | testing team moved to next? | 09:18 |
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AlexLatchford | asac: yes | 09:19 |
asac | good ... then i think we are over | 09:19 |
asac | sorry again for being so late here :/ | 09:19 |
hjmf | :) | 09:20 |
AlexLatchford | cool cool, asac can you update the agenda with the clue file decision, I was on another channel, and not nothing about clue files yet | 09:20 |
asac | AlexLatchford: which page | 09:21 |
AlexLatchford | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings | 09:21 |
AlexLatchford | just put in a short sentence about the decision made, keeps track of the decisions until I clear the page and make the minutes | 09:22 |
asac | yep done | 09:23 |
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asac | hmmm wiki is slow on writing | 09:23 |
asac | now changed | 09:23 |
AlexLatchford | hmm, ta | 09:24 |
hjmf | cu | 09:25 |
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