[12:29] <williammanda> help!!!
[12:30] <superm1> williammanda, did you break something?
[12:31] <williammanda> my xorg.0.log.....unble to load  "xf86ExecX86int10
[12:31] <williammanda> i get this error toward the end of the xorg.....
[12:31] <williammanda> trying to get the svideo working
[12:31] <williammanda> what is this file?
[12:32] <superm1> cant say i've ever heard of it
[12:32] <williammanda> if it would load...i think it would work
[12:32] <superm1> could you paste your Xorg.0.log in a pastebin website?
[12:32] <superm1> so i can see the rest
[12:32] <williammanda> hold on
[12:39] <williammanda> http://pastebin.ca/466331
[12:39] <williammanda> sorry had to reload the "good" xorg
[12:40] <williammanda> i have been working on this for about 7 hours today...
[12:40] <superm1> man!
[12:40] <superm1> wow
[12:40] <williammanda> been following several guides
[12:40] <superm1> are you attempting a clone mode?
[12:40] <williammanda> on tseloit now
[12:40] <superm1> or what is your end goal?
[12:41] <superm1> just tv-out?
[12:41] <williammanda> well...it looks like one of two ways...
[12:41] <williammanda> cloning or 2 separate screens
[12:41] <williammanda> i can't get either going
[12:42] <superm1> well this is the trouble
[12:42] <superm1> #
[12:42] <superm1> (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768"
[12:42] <superm1> #
[12:42] <superm1> (EE) NVIDIA(0): The requested configuration of display devices is not
[12:42] <superm1> #
[12:42] <superm1> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     supported in the hardware.
[12:42] <superm1> more so then that xf86ExecX86int10 i think
[12:42] <superm1> if you are trying to do clone resolutions, both tv and monitor need to support that resolution
[12:43] <williammanda> hummm
[12:43] <superm1> so do them as seperate
[12:43] <superm1> or better yet
[12:43] <superm1> twinview
[12:44] <williammanda> twinview works with 6200 le?
[12:44] <williammanda> nvidia
[12:45] <williammanda> i follwed this for twinview...
[12:45] <williammanda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[12:46] <superm1> and thats what you have?
[12:46] <superm1> right now
[12:46] <williammanda> yes
[12:46] <superm1> well that is weird.
[12:46] <williammanda> nvidia 6200 le
[12:47] <superm1> there is no reason it shouldnt support twinview
[12:47] <superm1> is that similar to what it spit out from nvidia-settings?
[12:47] <williammanda> i'll reload the twinview xorg file and post the log
[12:59] <williammanda> humm...something intresting just happened....
[01:00] <williammanda> my lcd monitor was blank...
[01:00] <williammanda> so I decided to try the tv
[01:00] <williammanda> i switched the channels around and I have the desktop on the tv
[01:00] <superm1> haha
[01:00] <superm1> there you go
[01:01] <williammanda> but not on the monitor
[01:01] <superm1> so the two are switched?
[01:01] <williammanda> si that the way it is supposed to be?
[01:01] <superm1> open up nvidia-settings
[01:01] <superm1> and you can switch the one that is primary i think
[01:01] <williammanda> yes switched
[02:10] <tgm4883> is there something good to read on the file structure of linux?
[02:11] <rogue780|laptop> argh! does anyone know about openchrome? the picture is all distorted on the tv. just black and white, and garbled like HBO
[02:13] <superm1> sorry rogue780|laptop , no :(
[02:14] <rogue780|laptop> well I'm gonna find out, then I'm going to put all my unichrome stuff that I learned in the wiki
[02:14] <superm1> awesome :)
[02:14] <superm1> thats what i like to hear
[02:15] <superm1> tgm4883, wikipedia i'd bet
[02:17] <superm1> bendailey, imbrandon stopped in and said things are going to be moving along smoothly with the domain :)
[02:17] <superm1> good to hear
[02:19] <tgm4883> thanks superm1, just checked it out, not really what im looking for.  Ill just use google and hope i get something relevent
[02:20] <superm1> what are you looking to find out about file structures exactly?
[02:26] <rogue780|laptop> success!
[02:27] <superm1> that was quick rogue780|laptop
[02:27] <superm1> :)
[02:27] <tgm4883> i really just want to know what things are for, for instance, why is bin named bin?  why etc, why opt, sbin
[02:27] <tgm4883> that sort of thing
[02:28] <tgm4883> interesting that ive been using linux this long and have no idea what those are
[02:28] <rogue780|laptop> etc stands for "Extra Tool Chest" so i'm told
[02:28] <rogue780|laptop> bin I think is called that because it is where the actual binary programs are kept
[02:28] <rogue780|laptop> the rest is a mystery
[02:28] <superm1> and lib is where libraries are kept
[02:28] <rogue780|laptop> to me anyway
[02:28] <rogue780|laptop> see there ya go
[02:29] <rogue780|laptop> home is ...well no need to explain that
[02:30] <tgm4883> ok, so if i wanted to mount a nfs share for multiple users, where would i mount it?
[02:30] <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[02:30] <rogue780|laptop> what would take to put built in unichrome support into mythbuntu?
[02:31] <superm1> tgm4883, /mnt typically
[02:31] <tgm4883> thanks superm1, i looked all over for that, although i was searching for things like "unified filesystem" and "linux filesystem"
[02:31] <superm1> but that depends on its purpose really
[02:31] <superm1> rogue780|laptop, what was involved with getting unichrome going?
[02:32] <superm1> ex if you are mounting an area for temp space, it wouldnt make sense to mount it in /mnt
[02:33] <rogue780|laptop> well I just had to follow the tutorial on the ubuntu site about openchrome mostly....but then I had to find some random setting for xorg. that was the hard part, which is why I'm putting that on the wiki
[02:34] <superm1> after first release (and hence we have a lot of the installer stuff sorted out), it should be feasible
[02:34] <tgm4883> mp3's, movies, user documents, pictures, CD's, misc files
[02:34] <rogue780|laptop> I just downloaded the file from svn, autoconf'd it, make, make install...etc
[02:34] <superm1> why isnt the driver in feisty?
[02:34] <superm1> more importantly will it be in gutsy
[02:34] <superm1> tgm4883, like a home folder?
[02:34] <superm1> like several home folders
[02:35] <rogue780|laptop> that's what I want to know. it's a free open source driver....probably just because openchrome isn't overly popular
[02:35] <rogue780|laptop> except for us people who build our mythfrontends in old NES cases and need a small motherboard and are stuck with via/unichrome
[02:36] <superm1> i'll add it to my todo list
[02:36] <tgm4883> sorta, the only thing user independent would be the user documents, the rest (CD's are all my ripped software, movies are all my ripped dvd's, mp3's , misc files are files everyone needs access too).  Although currently it is temp mounted in my home folder for testing
[02:37] <superm1> it would most likely make sense to mount in /mnt i think
[02:37] <superm1> for that purpose
[02:38] <tgm4883> ok, i was thinking that or either /usr/share
[02:38] <superm1> not /usr/share
[02:38] <superm1> thats not a good idea
[02:38] <rogue780|laptop> now to set up lirc
[02:38] <superm1> some apps use that for other things
[02:38] <tgm4883> ah ok
[02:43] <tgm4883> is there a way to test throughput over a network connection?
[02:43] <tgm4883> i think my nic is acting up on my server
[02:43] <superm1> iperf
[02:44] <tgm4883> sweet thanks
[02:46] <tgm4883> hmm, looks fine to me
[02:47] <superm1> you can tweak quite a bit with that app
[02:48] <tgm4883> im thinking i need an extended test, as it seems to stall when transfering large files, then continues
[02:48] <tgm4883> its a good app though
[02:49] <superm1> scp or nfs stall?
[02:50] <tgm4883> nfs, and its just for a few seconds, then keeps going.  Also, ssh takes a few seconds to return the password prompt
[02:50] <tgm4883> longer than on my mythtv box anyway
[02:50] <superm1> hm
[02:51] <tgm4883> (although the mythtv box is a much more powerful computer i would think that my server is adaquit)
[02:51] <tgm4883> the only thing im thinking is a gigabyte nic problem
[02:52] <tgm4883> my gigabyte switch went out so im only hooked up to a 100mb switch, heard bad things about that and auto-negotiation
[02:53] <superm1> cant comment much there myself
[02:56] <rogue780|laptop> my myth server is a 2.0ghz athlon XP with a gig-o-ram and a 350GB hd
[02:56] <rogue780|laptop> it works nice
[02:59] <rogue780|laptop> is there a way to adjust the scan of the actual tuner? my situation is this, when it records a show there is about an 8-12 pixel vertical black bar on the left of the screen. it's in the actual movie file, not just a display issue.
[03:00] <superm1> not afaik.
[03:01] <rogue780|laptop> afaik?
[03:02] <superm1> as far as i know
[03:03] <tgm4883> lol, rogue|laptop, my server is a athlon XP 2000+ with 768 ram and about 700Gb space
[03:04] <tgm4883> pretty similar
[03:04] <rogue780|laptop> my myth server is also my print server, itunes server, file server (samba and nfs), soon to be mail and web server
[03:04] <rogue780|laptop> I just love ubuntu
[03:05] <tgm4883> mine just does file serving right now (printer has built in print server, doesn't work well under ubuntu though)
[03:05] <tgm4883> hopefully soon it will also be a backend slave for mythtv
[03:05] <rogue780|laptop> anyway, my server used to be my windows gaming machine...but the games outpaced it
[03:05] <tgm4883> mine too
[03:06] <tgm4883> its like were the same person
[03:06] <rogue780|laptop> so I made it a mythbox...my second and final attempt before I ditched the effort...and it worked
[03:06] <rogue780|laptop> indeed ;)
[03:06] <tgm4883> now what is an itunes server?  just serves other computers your music files or does it do more?
[03:08] <rogue780|laptop> well I have my windows computer, my linux desktop, and my dualbootin' rootin' tootin' windows/ubuntu laptop (I only use the windows side for studying the PFE with PFE gold, and itunes)
[03:09] <rogue780|laptop> and I might want to sync my ipod with any of those computers, or just listen to my music library from any of those computers
[03:10] <rogue780|laptop> so I have my entire (about 15GB) itunes library hosted on my server, and I point itunes to a mapped drive that gives me access to my itunes library from any computer
[03:11] <tgm4883> nice
[03:13] <rogue780|laptop> don't you just *love* it when you think you paid a $700 bill, but the check got lost in the mail, and you spent the money that was supposed to go to the company?
[03:13] <rogue780|laptop> I sure do
[03:13] <rogue780|laptop> NOT
[03:38] <rogue780|laptop> argh. irw is giving me a connection refused error
[03:39] <rogue780|laptop> lirc hates me and always has
[05:45] <williammanda> .
[05:46] <superm1> sort out the tv-out mess williammanda ?
[08:43] <Daviey> did somebody ping me?
[03:42] <bendailey> Anyone have a minute for a newbie mythtv question?
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> unless its real quick im leaving for class and will be back in about 3 hours
[04:17] <bendailey> thanks I think I am gong to try some more testing
[04:43] <tgm4883_laptop> class canceled, if you still need help bendailey
[04:43] <bendailey> glad you class was cancelled
[04:43] <tgm4883_laptop> that makes 2 of us
[04:44] <bendailey> my question was about recording size on a defuault mythtv install
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:44] <tgm4883> like how big the file sizes are?
[04:45] <bendailey> yeah in about 30 Minutes the recording grew to over 6G
[04:45] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:45] <tgm4883> that seems two large, let me check mine
[04:46] <tgm4883> HD or SD?
[04:46] <bendailey> OTA SD on a  Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 with no hw mpeg encoder
[04:47] <tgm4883> oh
[04:47] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:47] <tgm4883> thats way too large
[04:47] <bendailey> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Recording_Parameters that is what I thought
[04:47] <tgm4883> my 1 hour HD recordings are only around 6.6Gb
[04:48] <bendailey> Are you using MPEG4 or RTJPEG?
[04:48] <bendailey> or something else?
[04:48] <tgm4883> well the HD recordings are already compressed
[04:48] <tgm4883> they stream in mpeg2
[04:48] <bendailey> right so you not transcoding them on the fly just dumping them to disk right?
[04:49] <tgm4883> yea, no need for encoding
[04:49] <tgm4883> although im not sure what happens to my SD now that I think about it
[04:49] <tgm4883> i capture it over firewire
[04:50] <bendailey> Once I get some cash scraped I plan on getting a kworld atsc-110 to get atsc streams which will be mpeg
[04:50] <bendailey> mpeg* mpeg2
[04:50] <bendailey> SD & HD over firewire?
[04:50] <tgm4883> yea from my STB
[04:51] <bendailey> so your STB is dumping you an mpeg2 stream either way
[04:51] <tgm4883> my SD recordings are only about 1.2Gb for 30 minutes
[04:51] <tgm4883> thats what i figured
[04:52] <bendailey> gtg work calling
[04:52] <bendailey> thanks for the input
[04:52] <tgm4883> np, wish i could help more
[09:38] <Andyman53> Hey all
[10:46] <tgm4883_laptop> hey andyman53
[10:46] <Andyman53> hey
[10:46] <Andyman53> i can't seem to get myth tv to work with my tv card
[10:46] <Andyman53> i have a hauppague pvr-150
[10:47] <tgm4883_laptop> what version ubuntu?
[10:47] <Andyman53> the guide shows up empty too, except if i search by show, and neither allow recording
[10:47] <Andyman53> i don't know
[10:47] <tgm4883_laptop> is this a backend/frontend/desktop?
[10:48] <Andyman53> frontend
[10:48] <Andyman53> it's a whole setup
[10:49] <Andyman53> frontend and backend
[10:49] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so a combined frontend/backend, can you get to a command prompt
[10:50] <Andyman53> yeah
[10:51] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, do "cat /etc/issue"
[10:51] <tgm4883_laptop> and post the output
[10:51] <Andyman53> someone set this up for me
[10:52] <Andyman53> looks like they're running fedora 6
[10:52] <Andyman53> changed the background :(
[10:52] <tgm4883_laptop> so you have fedora 6?
[10:52] <Andyman53> yeah
[10:52] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, cant help you much there as im not familiar with that
[10:53] <Andyman53> i see
[10:53] <Andyman53> alright then
[10:53] <Andyman53> bye
[10:53] <tgm4883_laptop> although
[10:53] <tgm4883_laptop> well that was quick
[10:53] <tgm4883_laptop> didn't even get to suggest feisty
[11:07] <rogue780|laptop> lol
[11:08] <rogue780|laptop> coulda at least directed to the myth(TV)ology page
[11:09] <rogue780|laptop> ok I've got lirc issues again
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> I keep getting this error(sorry for the flood):
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> #####################################################
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> ## I couldn't load the required kernel modules     ##
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> ## You should install lirc-modules-source to build ##
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> ## kernel support for your hardware.               ##
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> #####################################################
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> ## If this message is not appropriate you may set  ##
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> ## LOAD_MODULES=false in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf   ##
[11:13] <rogue780|laptop> #####################################################
[11:29] <rogue780|laptop> here is what I'm doing (IAW the wiki)
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ irw
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> connect: Connection refused
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ mode2
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> mode2: Permission denied
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ sudo mode2
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> Password:
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> mode2: No such device
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$ ls /dev | grep lirc
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> lirc
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> lircd
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> lircm
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> shawn@NESPC:~$
[11:34] <rogue780|laptop> ok now if I do "modprobe lirc_serial" irw doesn't work, but mode2 does
[11:34] <Daviey> ewww lirc
[11:50] <rogue780|laptop> so now that I modprobed the lirc_serial module it how do I make it stay working?
[11:57] <Daviey> rogue780|laptop, i found this guide to be excellent
[11:57] <Daviey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[12:00] <rogue780|laptop> that's the one I've been using
[12:00] <rogue780|laptop> I think I may have figured it out...i dunno. I'll have to restart myth and lirc
[12:01] <rogue780|laptop> it's this silly serial receiver that is kinda quirky
[12:03] <william_> what is the script that auto start mythbackend?
[12:06] <Daviey>  /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend ?
[12:07] <william_> ty
[12:13] <william_> if i wanted to start a program on boot up...how could I do that?
[12:14] <Daviey> the ubuntu packages should do that for you automatically
[12:14] <Daviey> (or is this non-mythtv)?
[12:15] <william_> yes non myth
[12:15] <Daviey> okay.. what stage do you want it executed?
[12:15] <Daviey> (with gnome) or before?
[12:15] <william_> ? have no idea
[12:16] <william_> i'm using both gnome and kde
[12:19] <Daviey> then you probably need to add it as a runlevel daemon
[12:19] <Daviey> what is the app?
[12:24] <william_> not sure...just trying to understand what I need to do if I want to auto load something at bootup
[12:25] <Daviey> william_, okay.. you have various 'run levels'
[12:26] <Daviey> see them: http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Linux%10UNIX/Linux_Runlevels.html
[12:27] <Daviey> you have /etc/rc0.d   - to -- /etc/rc6.d
[12:27] <Daviey> these are the different runlevels
[12:27] <Daviey> but first you need to make a startup/stop script to drop into /etc/init.d/
[12:28] <Daviey> there is an example in there IIRC
[12:28] <william_> ty