[12:27] Jester46: you may want to check out MC Solaar [12:28] sulle: where? :P === xprimarysuspectx [n=primary@66.231.37.252] has joined #xubuntu [12:29] alright thesheep. just edited my menu.lst file to hd0, 4 as per your instructions. but it says invalid device selected, so that leads me to believe hd0, 4 is the incorrect device? [12:30] !ask [12:30] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [12:30] lol [12:30] weird [12:31] i thought so. hda5 should be hd0, 4..unless im a retard and i put hdo..hmm [12:31] let me check lol [12:31] xprimarysuspectx: can you pastebin the result of 'sudo fdisk -l' ? [12:31] sure === ScarpaZ [n=Valdenir@20158182053.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [12:32] xprimarysuspectx: also make sure you didn't remove parens or insert spaces anywhere between the parens === ScarpaZ [n=Valdenir@20158182053.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #xubuntu ["Kopete] [12:32] http://paste.bigbudden.com/view.php?id=237 [12:32] xprimarysuspectx: it should be exactly (hd0,4) [12:33] xprimarysuspectx: um... since when can windows boot from an extended partition? [12:33] it works fine fo' me [12:34] i have two physical drives, and a few partitions [12:34] I always had to put winows on one of the primary partitions to make it work [12:34] that should be a primary partition if i remember correctly === jexd [n=bert@adsl-225-27-153.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] title Windows [12:35] root (hd0,4) [12:35] makeactive [12:35] chainloader +1 [12:35] hda5 is not a primary partition [12:35] er probabyl should have pastbinned that [12:35] does xubuntu have a preinstalled .pdf reader or do i need to install one? [12:35] jexd: it has one, evince, it's in menu as 'document viewer' [12:36] xprimarysuspectx: are you sure that's the "system" partition of your windows? [12:36] TheSheep, thank you :) [12:37] xprimarysuspectx: maybe try (hd1,0) or something? [12:37] yeah. media/hda5 is where windows is installed [12:37] rather, dev/hda5 [12:38] xprimarysuspectx: you didn't move it or anything when installing linux? [12:38] no. not that im aware of [12:38] xprimarysuspectx: it would ask for confirmation at least 3 times ;) [12:39] i just set the already established ext3 partition i had to root, made a swap partition out of another established partition, and installed it [12:39] neither partition had windows on it [12:39] yeah, it probably does try to avoid that mistake im sure lol [12:39] xprimarysuspectx: ok, I think there is a trick to boot windows from a non-primary partition [12:40] so change it hd1, 0 and see if that work? [12:40] ...works [12:40] hd1, would be the second physical disk, and the first partition though would it... [12:40] xprimarysuspectx: http://jarpack.net/grub-with-linux-primary-and-windows-secondary [12:42] xprimarysuspectx: ah, you just need 'rootnoverify' instead of ;root' [12:42] xprimarysuspectx: it seems [12:42] xprimarysuspectx: to prevent grub from displaying that error message [12:42] ignore the map commands [12:42] so leave hd0, 4 but change root to rootverify [12:43] leave makeactive, and chainloader +1 as well [12:43] http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/view/KB/InstallIboot2#HOtherOperatingSystems [12:43] here is another one [12:44] alright then. so, sorry to drag this out. rootverify (hd0,4) makeactive chainloader +1 [12:44] xprimarysuspectx: yes [12:44] rootnoverify [12:44] sorry [12:44] ah. yeah i just noticed that lol. np [12:45] ill give it a shot. thanks [12:45] good luck and good night [12:45] thanks again === xprimarysuspectx [n=primary@66.231.37.252] has left #xubuntu [] [12:52] hey could someone run ping salem.dyndns.org in a ttyl for me and leave it on, it because of this http://embeddedether.net/mhc.html# === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-8000.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] i want to see it flip to 000000 [12:53] only 980k pings left [12:54] ? [12:54] how fast is it pinging? === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-71-58-75-130.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.169.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] hi...does somebody know why my wireless card is suddenly not recognized, after trying to enable roaming? I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling my driver in ndiswrapper, but it's still not showing up. === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === xprimarysuspectx [n=primary@66.231.37.252] has joined #xubuntu [01:20] ..grub loader problem still :( [01:21] ive tried specifying rootnoverify (hd0,4) [01:21] ive tried map (hd0, 4) (hd0,0) map (hd0,0) (hd0,4) as well. all to no avail. [01:22] i have windows xp pro, installed on hda5 [01:22] GRUB [01:22] it hates me [01:22] :( [01:22] anyone? [01:25] xprimarysuspectx: no more ideas :( [01:25] lol [01:25] me neither. [01:25] xprimarysuspectx: try google [01:25] i know that is the correct partition. i can see it inside of linux, and i can look through the windows folder [01:25] lol [01:26] xprimarysuspectx: well, windows can only boot using the code it puts into MBR [01:26] i know, maybe mbr got effed is what im thinking [01:26] i can rewrite it..to my own avail i suppose === xprimarysuspectx [n=primary@66.231.37.252] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.169.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:31] I'm connected to a Fiber Optic rack server, how do i access it? [01:31] ?? [01:31] nice rig mate [01:31] it has fiber optic internet? [01:32] not internet [01:32] just ethernet [01:32] what internet does it have [01:32] it doesn't [01:33] well thts not good [01:33] brb [01:34] im at 189k pings [01:35] so 921k pings left === amphi [n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi] has joined #xubuntu === amphi [n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi] has left #xubuntu [] === BFTD [n=Commande@unaffiliated/bftd] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] I had to turn it off after i found out it was using up 2000 watts === carloska [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-9367871a4c8eab17] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === hi [n=james@125.120.11.231] has joined #xubuntu === cinn| [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === cinn| is now known as Cinnander === [H5N1] [i=mrflu@laggy.us] has joined #xubuntu === hi is now known as newbie === Sulle [n=sulle@ti511210a080-11193.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [02:09] gnite all =) === sc0tch [n=sc0tch@12-227-172-64.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === NazQui [n=NazQui@ppp-124.120.0.48.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@82-46-136-83.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === cinn| [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === cinn| is now known as Cinnander === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.39.19] has joined #xubuntu === stev1 [n=steven@ip236-134-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #xubuntu [02:41] hello [02:42] i'm having a problem with my fglrx [02:42] anyone in here that can help me? [02:42] fglrxinfo = video card driver [02:43] tried every forum [02:43] but nothing works === stev1 [n=steven@ip236-134-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === T`2 [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-71-241-4-235.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p81ds3xi.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb_ [n=crdlb@pool-72-82-101-157.nrflva.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] rovclock is AMAZING [03:21] i like messing with the clock rate, and yes i know its not good [03:22] but lowing it to 120 to keep the machine cool is great plus if i need a little juice i can add just a bit mroe === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === KiviOS [n=magus@87.118.102.154] has joined #xubuntu [03:28] Hello all === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === carloska [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-5d339a3f86ad4525] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-224-84.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu [03:44] hi KiviOS [03:44] hi!!! [03:44] How r u? [03:44] good [03:45] I want to get minimal system requirments for K/X/U-buntu [03:45] !requirments [03:45] Sorry, I don't know anything about requirments - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:45] I want to get minimal system requierments for K/X/U-buntu [03:45] X is the least [03:46] !requirements [03:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:46] !requirements [03:47] how do I take a screenshot in xubuntu? [03:47] print screen button doesn't do it [03:47] !screenshot [03:47] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button or the File -> Acquire menu in the GIMP. [03:47] er [03:47] why doesn't my print screen button work [03:47] becuase its mapped wrong === pokieo [n=drjapan@S0106000b97267a66.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] what should it be mapped to [03:48] KiviOS: xubuntu needs 64mb ram to run [03:48] Jester46> and CPUs frequency? [03:48] Jester46: what should it be mapped to? [03:49] hello let's say I download a piece of 3rd party software. there is an install-sh file, configure files etc [03:49] idk i would say 200mhz [03:49] how would I install it? [03:49] I try and add it to the packages and it says it's invalid [03:50] s|k: its probly not mapped at all i normaly use it as F## and have a shortcut that runs a snapshot program [03:50] and u dont know about Ubuntu? === RememberPOL [n=pol@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has joined #xubuntu [03:50] woot i like small 40v39's :) [03:51] Jester46: what program? [03:52] discomatic [03:52] I can't fucking believe something as simple as screenshot doesn't work [03:52] it used to work [03:52] then I installed fluxbox [03:52] and now it doesn't [03:52] fuck itg [03:53] I'm not doing gaim acquire === RememberPOL [n=pol@pdanilov.student.iastate.edu] has left #xubuntu [] [03:53] KiviOS: i would say 100 for ubuntu and kubuntu but kubuntu would need a better processor [03:54] Yep [03:54] I have 733Mhz and 256Mb [03:54] Is it enough? [03:54] yea [03:55] for all 3 [03:55] i would suggest ubuntu or xubuntu [03:55] On the second computer I have 2.80 Ghz and 512Mb and and nVIdia 64 Mb [03:55] 2nd is also good? [03:55] if you plan on heavy usage i would suggest xubuntu [03:55] well... is faster than the first so... yes [03:56] But Ubuntu 7.04 will run on the 1st? [03:56] yes [03:56] And what is 3d mode in Ubuntu? [03:57] xubuntu will be faster but ubuntu will run pretty good [03:57] hey guys did you see http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39291 ? === darrend_ [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:57] KiviOS: you mean the desktop effects right? === mindframe_ [n=mindfram@ip68-106-174-142.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:57] righg [03:57] that all depends on your video card [03:57] t [03:58] But XP uses 2d is not it? [03:58] yes xp uses 2d unless your in a game [03:59] ok [03:59] I will not use games in Ubuntu [03:59] )) [04:00] well what card do you have [04:00] it might supportit [04:00] 2d mode is enough for applications that r not games or 3d design...etc [04:00] xp will support any video card that support 3d but linux is diffrent, most highend dont work and some realy strange lowend one [04:00] s [04:01] mm [04:01] I have Intel 82810 on the first [04:01] And GeForceMMX440 64Mb on the second === Kresjah [n=a@ti231210a080-8000.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-226-250.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === McBeardy [n=tebow@ip72-209-66-140.ga.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Jester45 [n=ryan@dsl-192-189.jax.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:31] yall know how to disable tap to click on a laptop in xfce? === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [04:35] ok [04:35] I'm using screenshot tool [04:35] that comes with the panel [04:35] that works [04:35] yay [04:35] no idea how to take a screenshot of the application menu though === aro [n=aro@108-27.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:36] theres no entry for it [04:36] o [04:36] im [04:36] um === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:37] right click it and select properties and then change delay [04:37] Jester45: how about disabling tap-to-click on a touchpad? [04:37] Lotta trouble with 7.04 [04:38] honkytonkwillie: that's your own fault :p [04:38] every time I try and use terminal the system crashes [04:38] i have xubuntu 7.04 running on a pentium II 300MHz with 192M RAM and 4G storage [04:38] any ideas why? [04:38] use alt+ctrl+F1 [04:38] you should use an older computer [04:38] Jester45: thanks [04:39] ToHellWithGA: i have no idea [04:39] I just upgraded from a PII 333MHZ to a 1GHz [04:39] honkytonkwillie: showoff :p [04:39] i still win [04:40] :) [04:40] didn't really want a smiley... [04:40] So why does Terminal crash my system? [04:40] Anyone? [04:40] isk [04:40] idk [04:41] I've reinstalled Xubuntu 3x now from the Live CD. [04:41] Is there another Terminal program? [04:42] yea, alt+ctrl+F1 [04:42] Okay, I'll give that a shot. [04:42] Be back in a while. [04:42] or alt+F2 and run xterm [04:42] honkytonkwillie: i actually prefer another terminal [04:42] the gnome-terminal has hotkeys for making the font bigger and smaller [04:43] it's probably not the best one available, but that's a feature i dig for when my eyes get tired [04:43] i use 8 font all the time but im young to most [04:44] 8 font? [04:44] i'm on 16 :/ [04:44] up to 24 when i'm tired [04:44] but i have a 17" monitor that i sit at least 5 feet away from since it's on top of a dresser rather than on a desk [04:45] ah [04:45] I use 8-10 usually, but my monitor is about 2 feet away [04:45] i got dual 21" [04:45] I don't mind xterm, though. The black-on-white reads well [04:46] er [04:46] white-on-black* [04:46] Jester45: why do you use xfce if you have a beastly computer? [04:46] do you just prefer the interface? [04:46] i like xfce [04:46] yes [04:46] s/interface/styling/ [04:46] i run xubuntu on 6 computers [04:46] my computer isn't awesomely new, but i like xfce for the quick startup [04:46] ToHellWithGA, how do the slashes work, anyhow? [04:47] gnome takes a little longer between the x server starting and it being usable [04:47] illu45: it's a regular expression [04:47] s meaning spelling error /oldword/newword [04:47] s/X/Y/ switches the first encountered instance of X for Y [04:47] s/X/Y/g switches all X for Y [04:47] Weird. Ctrl-Alt-F1 brought me to a terminal screen, [04:47] it's syntax used in a lot of programming languages [04:47] but it didn't seem to recognize many commands. [04:47] honkytonkwillie: its supposed to do that [04:48] if you google "regular expression" you should see some explanation [04:48] honkytonkwillie: you have F1-F6 of those [04:48] ah, ok [04:48] I randomly hit Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys until it X came back... [04:48] yea its F7 [04:48] ToHellWithGA, never seen that before... [04:48] you can use xterm to have a gui terminal [04:48] illu45: you see it often in irc [04:49] in games you see word* [04:49] you see it more often with sed [04:50] as an example, sed -i "s/lol/your mom/g" ~/log.txt, would replace all instances of "lol" with "your mom" in that file [04:50] s///g is handy for doing search/replace in files from the terminal [04:51] I always use word* [04:52] s/// is more specific [04:53] true [04:54] More weirdness - the XFCE "Applications" button on the top panel isn't working. [04:54] Menu drop downs work, but apps don't launch. [04:54] hm... [04:58] Reboot time... === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] === grazie [n=grazie@host86-144-208-25.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@dsl-192-189.jax.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] tonyyarusso: why are folks going ban-crazy in #ubuntu-offtopic ? [05:16] why not [05:19] im banned 3 times :) [05:19] i don't mind getting banned when i @lart 28 hobbsee [05:19] but for somebody being uptight for the sake of uptightness, that's not cool [05:20] i got banned because somerville32 hates me [05:21] eh, he frequents in here too you know [05:21] a word from my experience, dont change ati radeon 9250's memory clock from 270mhz to 300 its not pretty [05:22] but changing the core from 2** to 350 was usefull === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has joined #xubuntu === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Dekkard [n=righther@adsl-68-73-3-106.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #Xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@dsl-192-189.jax.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:34] Jester45: what's up with your connection? [05:34] are there any gtk bugs in feisty Xubuntu? [05:35] nothin [05:35] i'm on centurtytel and i get dropped a lot too [05:35] i was wondering if maybe our network is bad [05:35] im restarting X [05:35] ahhh [05:35] so my gaim dies [05:35] i'm not a big fan of gaim for irc [05:35] and gaim is auto started and it auto logins in here [05:36] i haven't used it since like 1.5 or so [05:36] i use it for this channel but when im dccing i use xchat [05:36] but it was pretty rough back then [05:36] ToHellWithGA: did you get a speed increase about a year about? [05:36] i wouldn't know [05:36] i just moved home to the 768/128 plan my parents have [05:36] yea ago* [05:37] and if i ever hit 128 centurytel drops me [05:37] i had that but now i got about 1500/700 [05:37] they release and renew my DHCP lease if i use the full bandwidth i pay for [05:37] i find that very cheap of them [05:37] do you pay per mb? [05:37] i'm on 1500/700 at work [05:37] no, just per month [05:38] same as me [05:38] but i had you internet then one day it got faster [05:38] but per month with "always on" in the ad suggests i should be able to push 128kbps up nonstop [05:38] im not gonna tell them [05:38] you guys are missing out [05:38] rather than 128kbps for like 5 seconds then a dhcp reset [05:38] Merchelo: i'm not chipping in on the bill. i don't miss anything :p [05:39] well i use my neighbors wireless also [05:39] 2.5 gb/s down, 1.5gb/s up in regional france for 30 euro ($20) [05:39] whats regional france me [05:39] mean* [05:40] as in the regional area of france, not in the major cities, like paris, lyon, marseille, auxerre [05:40] o like farms? [05:40] hehe farms get the best connection [05:41] are you sure its not 2.5mb/s [05:41] nope, i was there using it for a while [05:41] canal+ do an IPTV service [05:41] concidering your gigbit ethernet couldnt use 1/2 of it [05:41] Merchelo: gb/s? [05:41] yes [05:41] that seems ridiculous [05:41] that's faster than my LAN [05:42] its faster than most lans [05:42] most lans are mainly 100mbit [05:42] with servers might be on gigabit [05:43] those rates seem impractical [05:43] how is the latency? [05:44] if you still have 50-100ms pings the rate won't really do much for real-time stuff [05:44] what kinda wire was it [05:44] it had to be kosher wire [05:44] you couldnt top that out much [05:44] something extra special in [diety of choice] 's eyes [05:45] what was the isp? [05:45] i can't think of a lot of servers that could send stuff to you that quickly [05:45] i bet youtube is nice on a connection like that [05:45] youtube buttslow [05:46] they got like 100mbit pipe to share with 300k people [05:46] i didn't realize it was slow on their ened [05:46] s/ened/end/ [05:46] i always assumed it was my weaksauce connection [05:46] no they arent that fast [05:47] i bet they have some cool QoS and load balancing stuff [05:47] france telecom is the ISP [05:47] they stream the vidoe in real time but if they had fast connection for all then when you start streaming i would finish very quickly [05:48] Merchelo: is that a government-operated company? [05:48] nope, now under the control of orange communications [05:48] the network between universities in the US is pretty nice. i dunno if it is owned by the government or individuals [05:49] most uni-uni network are government run [05:49] im sure if they gave out 2.5gb isps would relocate there [05:49] they have internetv2 [05:49] its mega fast like over 200gb/s [05:50] but its only from uni-uni not uni-internet [05:50] that's cool [05:50] but uni-internet is fast [05:50] i have no scale lol [05:50] with 768k/128k here everything seems just fast enough [05:50] nothing seems really fast [05:50] it's all just not slow [05:50] i could use more [05:51] but... i dont want to upragade over the next step [05:51] if i upgrade from what im paying for i get what i have now [05:51] so untill im older and can get a job im gonna stay with this [05:51] that's kinda funny, your lucky upgrade [05:52] i know [05:52] you aren't old enough to get a job? [05:52] i was like.. OMG get the movies before they find it [05:52] i think the workin' age is 15 in missouri [05:52] 15 i could... but im gonna wait till 16 [05:52] that's not an age problem [05:52] that's a lazy problem :p [05:53] you might as well work and save now [05:53] saving money is so much cooler than having new toys [05:53] im good [05:53] when you actually need money, the savings are so nice to have [05:53] my parents are paying for my stuff [05:54] after a few domestic catastrophies you'll appreciate liquid assets more than toys [05:54] and i have to keep my grades up [05:54] homes suck with their faulty parts [05:54] appliances that can die any time at random [05:54] computers... [05:54] and plumbing that has to withstand significant water pressure and temperature changes [05:55] it'd be much cheaper to live in a tent [05:55] parents... [05:55] drink rainwater, use outhouses, use coolers/ice boxes [05:55] if i drop my GPA under 3.5 they said i dont get a car === jedispam [n=jedispam@129.120.244.166] has joined #xubuntu [05:57] "get a car"? [05:57] not buy a car [05:57] you have a sweet deal dude [05:57] keep those marks high :) [05:57] i know thats why im not working === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.35] has joined #xubuntu [06:00] anyone have experience with open office spreadsheet? [06:00] a little its like MS Excel [06:00] i want to print a spreadsheet WITH the grids [06:01] trying to figure out how === Jester45 [n=ryan@dsl-192-189.jax.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:05] wow beryl is trouble [06:06] is it now? [06:06] lol [06:07] try file -> page setup === Grape_Juice [n=pants@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:10] :( i'm trying to find something like that [06:10] o [06:10] idk then [06:11] try file -> print the look in options [06:11] i gtg to bead [06:11]