[04:29] <Sleepy_Coder> I think I might have too much free time:  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/photoricon/too_much_free_time.jpg
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> nice
[04:31] <Sleepy_Coder> It took a while, but I got it all in there. :p
[04:31] <Sleepy_Coder> I thought one of the Peanuts Bunch would be a good "splash screen"
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats on an ltsp setup isnt it?
[04:33] <Sleepy_Coder> Actually, it just installed it that way...:<  I made the partitions, installed Windows on one, then installed Ubuntu and it set up my menu.lst.
[04:33] <Sleepy_Coder> I just modified it to look pretty. :p
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> thast a menu.lts?
[04:34] <Sleepy_Coder> It's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought it was pxelinux.conf/*
[04:34] <Sleepy_Coder> I remember one time I lost the option on the grub boot menu to boot Windows--which I hate doing, but must do every now and then--and I had to edit menu.lst to put it back in. :)
[04:35] <Sleepy_Coder> I was just playing around and now I got Snoopy. :p
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[04:36] <Sleepy_Coder> I dunno.  I just wanted it to look funny. :p  I might post my menu.lst later so you guys can take a look. :)  *not trying to show off, but I find that a UI that you like makes you enjoy things more*
[04:40] <Sleepy_Coder> I'll pastebin it in a second.
[04:40] <Sleepy_Coder> !paste
[04:40] <Sleepy_Coder> :<
[04:40] <Sleepy_Coder> What happened to ze bot?
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <Sleepy_Coder> Oh, zeyr we go. :D
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[04:42] <Sleepy_Coder> Here we go:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18752/
[04:42] <Sleepy_Coder> I only pasted the lines that were relevant.
[04:43] <Sleepy_Coder> You can sort of see how the syntax works.  I think every "title" must have a "root" underneath or else grub will just ignore what's in the "title" and it won't show.
[04:44] <Sleepy_Coder> Umm...don't copy and paste that into your menu.lst if anyone cares....it'd be kind of bad since you guys don't have my configuration on the MBR. :p
[11:47] <crazy_bus> can edubuntu ltsp server dual boot with windows server
[12:06] <mattfletcher> i read that i can edit files within /etc/skel to redefine things like desktop backgrounds for any new users i create, is this correct?
[12:34] <cliebow>  yes
[12:35] <cliebow> crazy_bus, sure..i have found one laptop cranaky enough it wouldnt
[12:44] <mattfletcher> clie, was that yes to me?
[12:51] <mattfletcher> i've looked in /etc/skel/ on an ubuntu 7.04 server (the only machine i have handy) and it's empty. where can i predefine things like desktop backgrounds and themes for new users?
[01:12] <cliebow>  no dot files?
[01:13] <cliebow> if you want special settings for openoffice for instance..use an account to create the perfect .openoffice2.org file and drop it un /etc/skel
[01:14] <cliebow> got a good nautilus setup for an account? drop it in /etc/skel
[01:14] <cliebow> as .nautilus
[01:15] <cliebow> the .gnome2_private stuff is confusing to me what controls what...but same principle applies
[01:28] <SiCk--> anyone any ideas why when my thin-client starts up it wont boot into gdm, it just always throws up a little xterm in the corner?
[01:28] <SiCk--> i can start opera from it
[01:28] <SiCk--> and opera is selected in the .xsession
[01:37] <cliebow> SiCk--, most of the wizaeds are enroute to spain..
[01:38] <mattfletcher> it's specifically the theme and background i will want to set, where are they stored? there are only a couple of files like .bashrc in /etc/skel/, no big directories of stuff
[01:38] <mattfletcher> ah, is that why the meeting is silent?
[01:38] <cliebow> i dont know exactly where they are..
[01:40] <mattfletcher> i'll try #ubuntu
[01:40] <cliebow> but you can experiment with all thos e.g* files...take two users..get just what you want with one user..then drop the .files into second users folder..chown to the new user..see what happens..(and let me know what you find 8`)
[01:40] <cliebow> hmm
[01:41] <cliebow> but you can experiment with all thos e.g* files...take two users..get just what you want with one user..then drop the .files into second users folder..chown to the new user..see what happens..(and let me know what you find 8`)
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> you could also use sabayon and that other tool for doing the account setups
[01:42] <cliebow> Kamping_Kaiser, i need to try this
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra told me about the second yesterday - its shipped in feisty apparently
[01:44] <cliebow> i missed that...google to the rescue
[01:47] <cliebow> ohhh..you mean pessulus?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> um yeh i think so
[01:49] <cliebow> yeah.ive used that to minimize choices in system-->quit
[01:49] <cliebow> so an ltsp user cant kill the server
[01:55] <juliux> hey pipedream
[01:55] <juliux> hey pirast
[01:57] <pirast> hey juliux
[02:00] <pirast> juliux, okay now i understand why you say hello to me today: "Mitgliedsbeitrag 2007 ubuntu Deutschland e.V." :P
[02:01] <juliux> pirast, hehe
[02:01] <juliux> pirast, i say everytime hello if is see you if you join the channel;9
[02:02] <pirast> nice :)
[02:03] <SiCk--> is there any way to setup my clients so that when they boot up, they autologin... without installing gdm on the chroot?
[02:03] <SiCk--> i'm looking for ways around this kiosk setup now ... :(
[02:04] <SiCk--> what i basically need is multiple clients to boot in, auto login, and start a browser in fullscreen (no address bar etc. ) displaying a webpage from their harddrive
[02:05] <SiCk--> so if anyone has any ideas on any part of it, i'm open. haha
[02:37] <georgy_> Hi ! I have edubuntu 7.04 server with thin client installed. Everything works fine, but when I try to connect to machine with thin client manager in viewer mode, connection failed, even aI have the x11vnc client installed.
[02:44] <georgy_> ! thin client manager
[03:01] <encompass> juliux: you would have the fastest hello on the net...
[03:01] <juliux> encompass, hehe
[03:02] <georgy_> Hi ! I have edubuntu 7.04 server with thin client installed. Everything works fine, but when I try to connect to machine with thin client manager in viewer mode, connection failed, even aI have the x11vnc client installed.
[03:03] <encompass> georgy_: didn't you just say that?
[03:03] <encompass> georgy_: you may like to try ubuntu forums... they help me lots
[03:04] <georgy_> Yes, but maybe somebody is connecting after the first time I ask. It will be the last time now
[03:05] <georgy_> Okay, but i have asked, and their send me in this channel ;)
[03:05] <encompass> georgy_: I see... have you tried the forums yet?  They are very helpful
[03:05] <georgy_> no, I will try now, hanx
[04:06] <Administrator> en
[04:06] <Administrator> I can not see anything
[04:07] <bddebian> Heya
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Administrator, take your sunglasses off
[04:07] <Administrator> what is sunglasses?
[04:07] <Administrator> I am new comer
[04:08] <Administrator> from China
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. nm
[04:08] <Administrator> How to take my sunglasses off?
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Administrator, its a joke, dont worry about it
[04:08] <Administrator> where are you
[04:09] <Administrator> It is the first time for me to talk a person on ICR
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, welcome on then :)
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> australia
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> * i'm in australia
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> the channel is international though
[04:09] <Administrator> I like Edubuntu ,I am in China.
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:10] <Administrator> But I am just a biggner of Edubuntu ,I used WindowsXP before
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> which version are you trying out?
[04:11] <Administrator> I really like to make good friends with the person who are good at Edubuntu .
[04:11] <Administrator> 6.10
[04:11] <Administrator> and you
[04:12] <Administrator> it is a liitle late
[04:12] <Administrator> just you are on line now?
[04:12] <Administrator> I just can see you only
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> its late here yes
[04:12] <Administrator> I am a student now
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lots of the people here are on tehri way to a conference about ubuntu starting in a few days
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> they will start appearing agian in a few days. the few thats left are scattered arround the world
[04:12] <Administrator> are you a student or a tech supporter of Conanical
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm a full time student, and part time sysadmin. i'm not employed by canonical.
[04:13] <Administrator> May I have your Gtalk or other IM?
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> i do, why?
[04:15] <Administrator> it is easy to keep in touch when i have some question to ask you
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you have questions you should ask here, then anyone around can help you
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> and if no one is around, yolu may have to wait a while for help
[04:16] <Administrator> ok
[04:16] <Administrator> Thanks a lot
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> no worries
[04:17] <Administrator> but the topic should be related to Ubuntu  product , right?
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu/edubuntu yes
[04:20] <Administrator> I want to help some people living in West of China ,especially poor student in small village, so I have to learn more things about Ubuntu
[04:20] <Administrator> and come here
[04:21] <Administrator> Is there any good place for me to get help?
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com if your english is good enough
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> check lists.ubuntu.com to see if theres an ubuntu-china list
[04:23] <Administrator> ok
[06:14] <mattfletcher> you could hear a pin drop in here. trust me to decide to do my first ltsp install the day everyone buggers off to spain
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> pretty much. i'm just buggering off to bed ;)
[06:17] <cliebow_> pinnnnnnnnnng..pinnnng...ping
[06:34] <encompass> cliebow_: ping
[06:34] <encompass> ping ping
[06:35] <encompass> mattfletcher: try ubuntu-laptop  even deader :P
[06:51] <cliebow_> pong pong
[06:57] <cliebow_>   Hey Homies!!
[07:16] <cliebow_> ``bbiab
[09:43] <mattfletcher> hello from my new edubuntu installation!
[09:44] <HedgeMage> hi mattfletcher
[09:44] <mattfletcher> i'm wondering now how to use ltsp - i tell my laptop to boot from "network" but it just shows me my normal grub
[09:46] <HedgeMage> mattfletcher: sorry, I've not worked with ltsp
[09:46] <mattfletcher> no worries, i'll wait till after the weekend
[09:47] <HedgeMage> :)
[09:48] <mattfletcher> but just to say - it looks stunning! i've just turned compiz on and woo! i just need to remember to turn it off once i have 10 thin clients connecting to it
[09:48] <cliebow_> mattfletcher:is dhcp running?
[09:49] <mattfletcher> hi cliebow, not on this machine - we also have a smoothwall which is providing that. does dhcp tell the tc's where to boot from?
[09:49] <cliebow_> yes..
[09:49] <cliebow_> BUT
[09:50] <mattfletcher> can i make smoothwall's dhcp do it?
[09:50] <cliebow_> there is a smopothwall mod which will let smoothwall pass the right info
[09:50] <mattfletcher> smashing
[09:50] <mattfletcher> u don't have a link do u?
[09:50] <mattfletcher> or a keyword to look for?
[09:50] <cliebow_> that mod also includes an arp table shown within dhcp
[09:50] <mattfletcher> arp?
[09:51] <cliebow_> lemme look..it was some work to do but i should have a copy down in Surry
[09:51] <mattfletcher> cheers, thanks
[09:52] <mattfletcher> if i remove the smoothwall, put dhcp back on and run the edubuntu server straight into the adsl router should that work? i only have 1 nic
[09:56] <cliebow_> mattfletcher, just shut off dhcp on the sm,oothwall and let you linux box do it 8~)
[09:58] <mattfletcher> i can't, it loses net access when i do that. i don't know how to configure the dhcp with the correct gateway etc
[10:02] <cliebow_> what is address of the smoothwall
[10:03] <mattfletcher> 192.168.0.10 (internal side)
[10:04] <cliebow_> that is your gateway address on the inside..you smoothwall is set to get info from dhcp for external interface?
[10:04] <cliebow_> ltsp direct to theinternet is not good
[10:04] <mattfletcher> i think the smoothwall is statically configured with the ip of the router and the remote dns servers. it's been that long tho that i'm not sure
[10:06] <cliebow_> here is the little piece to add a place for pxe info in smoothwall..
[10:06] <cliebow_> 169.244.3.137/smoothie.tar
[10:07] <cliebow_> so network is adslrouter--->smoothwall-->ltspbox
[10:07] <cliebow_> i have to fly for home..ill look you up by and by
[10:08] <mattfletcher> yeah
[10:08] <mattfletcher> ok cheers
[10:08] <cliebow_> luck
[10:22] <mattfletcher> does anyone else know anything about this smoothwall mod? i have it installed and it is asking me for four pieces of info about network boot -
[10:23] <mattfletcher> boot server, root path, boot filename, network boot enabled (checkbox)
[10:23] <mattfletcher> i assume boot server is the edubuntu server ip, but other than that i have no idea
[10:28] <mattfletcher> boot server, root path, boot filename, network boot enabled (checkbox). i assume boot server is the edubuntu server ip, but other than that i have no idea
[10:28] <mattfletcher> sorry pasted into wrong window
[10:59] <tiagoboldt> has anyone tried to install edubuntu in a virtual box virtual machine?
[11:00] <cmonkey> yea, I've set it up in VMware
[11:00] <cmonkey> both the server and a client
[11:00] <tiagoboldt> damm, the installation simply stops :|
[11:00] <cmonkey> using VMware?
[11:01] <tiagoboldt> virtual box
[11:01] <cmonkey> oh
[11:01] <cmonkey> oops, missed that
[11:04] <cmonkey> you could try VMware for OS X :p
[11:04] <cmonkey> err, wait, virtual box isnt just os x, nm
[11:04] <cmonkey> what os are you on
[11:05] <tiagoboldt> linux
[11:05] <tiagoboldt> ubuntu 386
[11:05] <cmonkey> oh, have you tried Xen?
[11:05] <tiagoboldt> nop
[11:06] <tiagoboldt> maybe I should switch 2 vmware server..
[11:13] <cmonkey> yea, ive found vmware server to be pretty convenient