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xerosishas anyone noticed the bug in kopete where received files stop at 100%?01:13
xerosisi'm off to bed but the question is the one i've asked in the last comment on bug 7946801:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 79468 in kdenetwork "Kopete file transfers from libgaim clients stop at 100%" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7946801:42
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lontra!ndiswrapper02:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:09
Grape_JuiceWorks like a charm for me. :)02:16
Grape_Juice"ndiswrapper -l"  "driver present; hardware present"  Me= *does happy dance*02:17
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yuriyhttp://vorian.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/stack2.png <- methinks kubuntu needs a new cover05:01
Jucatowe're the only one that don't have people in the cover... since.. hm... Dapper05:02
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Sleepy_CoderNEVER DESERT ME AGAIN05:20
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TrogdorVorianjdong, jdongbotu was much nicer05:31
jdongThat's what she said!05:31
TrogdorVorian:)05:31
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jdongHEX NUMBER FTW!!!!06:10
jdonglol06:10
n8k9909 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C006:10
Vorianah!06:10
Vorianwe are all going to die!06:10
jdonglol06:12
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n8k99not until we have paid taxes06:13
jdongbut this channel's logs are in the public domain06:13
Sleepy_CoderCOPYRIGHT INFRINGER!!!06:13
Sleepy_CoderDo it again. :p06:13
jdonglicense conflict!!!!06:13
jdongF9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C006:13
Sleepy_CoderAGAIN! :D06:13
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Sleepy_Coderahaha06:13
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Sleepy_CoderWait, you're missing the 09...06:14
jdongcrap06:14
Sleepy_Coderlol06:14
Sleepy_CoderYOU"VE BEEN GIVING PEOPLE THE WRONG MATERIAL TO START A LAWSUIT OVER!06:15
jdongaacs06:15
Sleepy_CoderI HATE YOU06:15
jdong09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C006:15
n8k99oh nine oh nine, where did you go?06:15
Sleepy_Coderlol06:15
jdongIn Soviet Russia, wrong material give YOU06:15
jdongyes I have that aliased too06:15
jdong:PO06:15
Sleepy_Coder09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C006:15
Sleepy_CoderWhoo!06:16
Sleepy_CoderI made an /aacs also. :)06:16
n8k99now we can have some lawsuits!06:16
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jdonglol06:16
Sleepy_Coder /alias aacs say 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C006:16
jdongwe're awful06:16
Sleepy_CoderIt feels so right. :p06:16
n8k99i'd like mine to be three pieced at least-06:16
jdongdigg's front page is totally poluted06:16
Sleepy_Coderahaha06:16
jdongeven after they reset all the diggs06:16
n8k99unless it's one of those snazzy three button jackets06:16
n8k99wow! digg is nothing but hex!06:20
Sleepy_CoderWonder how many lawsuits they'll send out. :)06:21
n8k99no telling06:22
Sleepy_CoderMight go bankrupt with all the lawyers. :p06:22
n8k99pleaseDeity();06:23
jdonghttp://web.mit.edu/jdong/www/misc/whatdoesthisdo.jpg06:23
jdong:)06:23
jdongmuahaha06:23
jdongcomplete with barcode06:23
Sleepy_Coderlol, that looks awesome. :D06:24
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jdong:)06:24
jdongI can't take credit06:24
Tm_Thsystem-x: welcome06:24
jdongI took two other people's works and fused them together06:24
jdongbut it's all in the spirit of free distribution right?06:24
jdong:)06:24
Sleepy_CoderDang jdong!  Looks nice!06:24
n8k99purdy!06:25
Sleepy_CoderWhere did you get the background?  And how did you do the shadow mirror of the text? :D06:25
jdongSleepy_Coder: ask http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/54442119/06:25
Tm_Thsystem-x: so what was you were needing?06:25
hsystem-xnothing, until now.06:26
hsystem-xthx06:26
Sleepy_Coder*sets as desktop background*06:26
jdonglol06:26
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n8k99i've been using hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 as a deli.icio.us tag06:26
Tm_THobbsee: good evening06:26
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jdonghi Hobbsee :)06:27
jdongthe internet's a fun place today :D06:27
Tm_Tit's not06:28
jdonghaha06:28
ajmitchs/fun/mindlessly stupid/06:28
Tm_Ts/the internet's/jdong is/06:28
Hobbseehi Tm_T, jdong, n8k9906:28
jdong:)06:28
Tm_T;-)06:29
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n8k99^_^06:29
jdonglol06:29
n8k99hehe06:31
hsystem-xwhis is the link to the kernel headers.06:33
hsystem-xwhat*06:33
hsystem-xsorry ...06:33
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Hobbseeyay, forum crack06:33
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jdonglol06:34
jdongI'm surprised 09f9 hasn't crapped all over the forums yet06:34
n8k99lol06:35
Hobbseejdong: woot!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2576607&postcount=1806:35
jdong:)06:35
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Tm_Tsorry pals, but I don't get it06:36
n8k99just for clarity, who is management?06:39
jdongmanagement06:39
jdong?06:39
Hobbseen8k99: it doesnt exist06:39
Jucatomanagement = long pointy stick of doom06:39
n8k99right- just checking06:39
Hobbseen8k99: well, it's canonical, for the developers paid by canonical06:39
ajmitchHobbsee: yes it does, for the distro team who do the bulk of ubuntu-specific development06:40
Hobbseeajmitch: i was getting to that06:40
ajmitchHobbsee: I see you replied to the release quality thread as well06:40
Hobbseen8k99: there's no "management" over the entire ubuntu developers"06:40
Hobbseeajmitch: yeah.  with some sarcastic response, iirc06:40
n8k99so Jucato was right06:40
ajmitchHobbsee: what a surprise06:40
Jucato:)06:40
Tm_Toooh nooo we don't have a heaad!!!06:40
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Hobbseeajmitch: cant see anything else of use to say...06:40
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jdongTm_T: you can't come out ahead if you don't have a head.06:41
jdongha that was awful too06:41
Hobbseei'm starting to put forward the line to the ambassadors - is it really worth your time and effort in getting these people into the real world, when they're perfectly happy in their forum world, which doesnt correspond to realit?06:41
Tm_Tjdong <306:41
Hobbsee*reality06:41
HobbseeScottK: haha06:41
HobbseeScottK: me too.  especially if i'm somehow the manager :P06:41
ajmitchHobbsee: it provides entertainment for you06:41
Tm_THobbsee: how about being my manager, PAY ME!06:41
HobbseeTm_T: dream on06:42
Hobbseeajmitch: only in small doses06:42
Tm_Tor was it, MAKE ME PAY!06:42
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jdongHobbsee: so you complain about the forum reality and the effort to correct it simultaneously?06:42
JucatoI think one of the biggest misconceptions about FOSS projects is that people are assigned by some hypothetical leader/management on what to work on. It just reflects a common ignorance. I'm sure no malice is intended06:42
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Hobbseejdong: well, no, not really.  having seen the lack of change so far, i'm not sure if it's worht it06:42
Hobbseejdong: i'm hoping hte effort works06:42
ScottKGood night all.  It's quite late here and I need to get to bed.06:42
n8k99Jucato: i hd that GCE when i came over06:42
Hobbseenight ScottK06:42
jdongHobbsee: as do I....06:42
ajmitchthere's a long way to go to educate people there06:43
jdongbut it is a big job to undertake06:43
n8k99its only begun to dawn on me as i get more invovled06:43
HobbseeJucato: infinite developers, under a global rule.  yep06:43
n8k99how it _really works_06:43
JucatoHobbsee: it also kinda reflects how information about these things are sort of one sided... I mean you'd absolutely have to be on IRC to actually find out the reality...06:44
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Jucatoor rather, how separate "worlds" don't really sync...06:44
HobbseeJucato: true.  or mailing lists.  but  mostly irc06:44
Jucato(forums, IRC, mailing lists, even wiki)06:44
ajmitchah, licensecheck06:44
Hobbseeactually, even the bugtracker would do a fair bit06:44
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HobbseeJucato: subscribe to all 306:46
Hobbseeactually, maybe not -discuss06:46
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JucatoI have kubuntu-devel...  :)06:46
JucatoS/N?06:46
crimsunsignal to noise.06:46
Jucatooh...06:46
crimsunthe more hobbsees, the less noise.06:46
Hobbseehaha06:47
ajmitchthe more hobbsees, the more pain06:47
Hobbseethere can only be one hobbsee!06:47
n8k99not if theyall show up with pointy sticks!06:47
Hobbseeajmitch: indeed.  stevenk's already told me to poke you at uds.06:47
Jucatolol06:47
ajmitchHobbsee: fix kdesdk kthxbye06:47
Jucatolet's not clone Hobbsee please? :D06:47
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ajmitchHobbsee: why would stevenk want you to poke me?06:50
Hobbseeajmitch: because i'll be there, and he wont06:50
ajmitchso?06:51
Hobbseeand it's about time you got payback from teh two of you poking me.06:51
ajmitchI never did06:51
Hobbseesure sure06:51
ajmitchyou sound doubtful06:53
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ajmitchwhen are you flying there?06:54
Hobbseetomorrow06:57
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ajmitchyou must be imagining things06:57
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Hobbseewow, so many specs..07:25
ajmitchHobbsee: hm?07:26
nixternalajmitch: I need to convert a c++ string to uppercase, and toupper is a no-no, HELP! you to Hobbsee, you know this stuff too07:27
ajmitchwho not toupper?07:28
Hobbseeajmitch: for ubuntu07:29
nixternalStockEval.cpp:93: error: cannot convert std::string to int for argument 1 to int toupper(int)07:29
nixternalstring keyValue07:29
jdongnixternal: iterate over the string....07:29
nixternalthat is my search string07:29
jdongtoupper apparently only handles single characters....07:29
nixternalkeyValue = std::toupper(keyValue);07:29
Hobbseenixternal: use the ascii codes, add the correct number to each character of the string07:29
Hobbseethat's what i'd try07:29
Hobbseeno idea if it's the quickest - i only did first year c++07:30
nixternaljdong: iterate'in love ey07:30
jdongHobbsee: pfft that's what toupper does07:30
Hobbseeahh07:30
jdong:)07:30
nixternalya07:30
jdongjust more abstracted07:30
jdongyou can add 'A'-'a'07:30
jdong:)07:30
jdongi mean subtract07:30
jdongbut it's unnecessarily complex :D07:30
jdongnixternal: looks like you need a for loop over your string, do toupper on each term07:30
jdongnixternal: more hints: http://www.cprogramming.com/faq/cgi-bin/smartfaq.cgi?id=1043284392&answer=104605342107:31
jdongthey kind of answer your question, so treat it as a spoiler? :)07:31
nixternaljdong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18760/ that is the code in question07:32
ajmitchHobbsee: there aren't that many sane & useful specs07:32
jdongyeah, you need another for loop...07:32
jdongthat iterates over strlen(keyValue)07:32
jdongand replaces keyValue[i] =std::touppper(keyValue[i] );07:33
nixternalcopy07:33
Hobbseeajmitch: ture that.  when can people start closing the useless ones - or duplicates?07:36
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ajmitchHobbsee: if only it were that simple07:57
Hobbseeheh07:57
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nixternalno need to iterate08:14
nixternalsimple for...loop fixed it08:14
jdongnixternal: for loop was what I meant by iterating :)08:17
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alleeGutsyRiddell: since today kdebase update I see the kde standard blue background for a short time before kde login and when user login starts.  The changed config http://paste.debian.net/2699611:09
alleeGutsy... of latest kdebase11:09
RiddellalleeGutsy: maybe I forgot the postinst script11:11
Riddellno, the postinst script is part of kubuntu-default-settings11:13
Riddellit should be a conffile and ask you if you want to overwrite it11:17
alleeRiddell: yes it did, that how I c&p the diff.  But for new installations it will not ask.11:24
Riddellallee: no it won't, but once you install k-d-s then the postinst will convert for you11:29
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Tm_Tbah11:50
Tm_TBAH11:50
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Riddellwhat's up?11:57
Hobbseethe sky11:58
Hobbseeor the ground, if you're upside down11:58
Tm_Tok, one great news, I might get apartment <311:58
Tm_Ta HOME!11:58
Hobbseewoo!11:58
Hobbseeso the cardboard box will no longer be needed?11:59
Tm_Tbut my frustration is: how I define myself in "Ubuntu world"11:59
Tm_TI'm user? developer?11:59
HobbseeTm_T: hmmm.  what do you think?12:08
Tm_TI just don't know12:09
Tm_TI still don't know what word "friend" actually means12:09
Tm_Tso, defining myself is not any easier12:09
Hobbseefriend?12:09
Tm_Tyes, that was example of my difficultiesd12:10
Tm_T-d12:10
Hobbseethe answer is you're probably both12:10
Hobbsee;P12:10
Tm_Thmm, propably12:10
Tm_Tb12:11
Tm_Twhatever =)12:11
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lucas_Hi, I would like to report a prblem for the open office packages in feisty... the missing of openoffice base crashes other openoffice apps even if kexi is installed, installing openoffice base resolves this01:17
lucas_But when it crashes, I have no feedback form apport so I don't know where to post the bug report01:20
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HobbseeRiddell: troll on multiple channels.  no staffers, again.02:20
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Riddelloh joy.  yes it is02:21
HobbseeJucato: probably.  been klined repeatedly02:21
Tm_Twhy I'm missing all fun?02:21
Jucatooh...02:21
Tm_Taaah that one!02:21
HobbseeTm_T: see #ubuntu, #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-offtopic, #slug, and #kde-devel02:21
n8k99are we supposed to s/fun/mindless again?02:21
Tm_THobbsee: from those, I'm only in #kde-devel02:22
HobbseeTm_T: and bye bye :)02:23
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bddebianHeya04:07
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mhbgood afternoon04:44
ScottK-laptopgood morning.04:45
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DaSkreechJucato: Which troll?05:41
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tomaola06:05
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tomawas it ok?06:06
Jucatoyep :)06:06
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DaSkreech!info cycle06:51
ubotucycle: calendar program for women. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-6 (feisty), package size 51 kB, installed size 444 kB06:51
Tm_TDaSkreech: thanks, that's exactly what I needs06:52
Tm_T-s06:52
DaSkreechApparently it doesn't prevent AIDS06:53
Tm_Tdon't worry, already had it06:54
Tm_Terr, I mean, awww06:54
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Tm_Tlook, flying cow! o/06:55
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DaSkreech!info mancal06:55
ubotuPackage mancal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:55
DaSkreech:-(06:55
Jucatono, there's nothing invented yet that will calculate/calendar your "periods", DaSkreech06:57
DaSkreechYes there is06:57
DaSkreech!info kmoon06:58
ubotukmoon: moon phase indicator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 175 kB, installed size 448 kB06:58
DaSkreech:-)06:58
Jucatoheh06:58
DaSkreech!info mencal06:59
ubotumencal: A menstruation calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-7 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 96 kB06:59
jdongWTF?06:59
jdonglol06:59
jdongI'm sure that's a very handy applet to put on a panel....06:59
DaSkreechkalendars are kool :-)06:59
DaSkreechI wonder if a calendar can be considered NSFW07:00
DaSkreechOther than the Ubuntu-calendar :)07:01
DaSkreechWhich was kinda it's point07:01
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Tm_TI hope we will see full set at some point07:04
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DaSkreechNope07:14
DaSkreechpretty much stoped it07:14
DaSkreech I was talking with kwwii about having a community calendar of Kubuntu07:15
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nixternalare they going to do the talks and everything like they did at Google?07:28
nixternalwhere everyone can get involved via SIP07:29
Riddellhope so07:29
mhbme too07:31
nixternalhaven't heard anything about it, nor seen anything on the wiki07:31
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alleeRiddell: will there be a short UDS kubuntu irc meeting for the first time participants?  Like:   Make sure to have xzy ready on your laptop.  Howto add yourself to a forum/workshop.  What's a forum/workshop ;) ? ...07:47
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DaSkreechyup08:00
DaSkreech can't boot without kdeinit crashing08:00
nixternalthat is supposed to happen08:03
fdovingtried a clean/new user?08:03
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DaSkreechWorks fine with a new user08:11
fdovingthen it's something in your config somewhere.08:13
imbrandondrive by spamming .oO( http://www.imbrandon.com/index.php/2007/05/02/sudo-apt-get-install-hd-dvd_playback/ )08:33
imbrandonshhhh08:33
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DaSkreechEH?08:35
DaSkreechimbrandon: When did you come back to life?08:35
imbrandoni never died [..] 08:36
DaSkreechOkie :)08:37
Tm_Timbrandon: err, does your friend use festival?08:38
imbrandonnot sure what he used to make it08:38
Tm_Tmind to ask? because atleast some of those are far better quality that I manage to get08:39
Tm_Ts/that/than what/08:39
imbrandon(01:40:03 PM) Adam Ward: http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php08:40
imbrandon:)08:41
Tm_Thmm, tts!08:41
Tm_TI have seen that before :)08:41
jdongimbrandon: so yet another violated patent :)08:42
jdongyay!08:42
imbrandonheh08:42
imbrandonjdong: only 6 diggs , help me with your super powers to get more diggs hehe08:43
jdonglol, I wish there were digg superpowers08:44
nixternalimbrandon: http://192.20.225.55/tts/speech/6959555b2ca9c3fa7d2cde4dd0da207e.wav08:45
nixternalthere you go08:45
nixternalhahaha08:45
DaSkreech.o0(No Russian? Chinese Even?)08:48
nixternalhehe08:48
DaSkreechUbuntu still respects runlevels right?08:48
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Riddellallee: we did have an irc meeting some time ago, but the format is all new this time so I'm unclear on details like you asked08:51
Riddellallee: I'd recommend having feisty on your laptop in a chroot at least08:52
alleeRiddell: s/feisty/gusty/  ?08:52
Riddellif you're brave :)08:52
alleeRiddell: not really feisty on laptop, gutsy in virtualbox.08:53
DaSkreechSomeone wants to have the same kernel with two options in grub to run two differetn Xconfigs09:14
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bobesponjahey09:55
bobesponjawhen I try to mount a media from media:/ in konqueror I get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"09:56
bobesponjais there something I need to chmod -s ?09:56
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manchickenI'm just gonna come out and say this... the Europeans have funny looking plugs.11:43
manchickenThere, I said it.  I feel better.11:44
Riddelllook much the same as Merkin plugs to me11:44
Riddellbit rounder is all11:44
Riddellbritish plugs still rule the world11:45
nixternalmanchicken: haha!11:45
nixternalwireless electricity rules the world!11:45
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manchickenToo right.11:45
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nixternalI guess you would call that lightning :)11:45
nixternalOK, so what is a nice small project for Gutsy that I can work on? I prefer C++/Qt, but I need to start learning Python a little better anyways11:47
manchickenThis agenda looks pretty good.11:47
manchickennixternal: Fix adept bugs ;)11:47
nixternalno thanks, next project ;)11:48
manchickenbtw, jr, the meduxa kubuntu spec that is linked from that agenda is 404ingf11:48
Riddellmanchicken: don't they all?11:48
nixternal09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C011:48
nixternalHow did everyone get my ATM PIN, and why are they publishing it all over the internet?11:48
manchickennixternal: Nice.11:48
nixternalhahahahaha, manchicken that is from j1mc's blog post today11:48
manchickennixternal: Yup.  that's the HD-DVD encryption key11:49
manchickenOr so I've heard.11:49
nixternalno really?11:49
nixternalwhat is this HD-ABC11:49
nixternalyou know it is bad when my dad hops on the bandwagon. Anything that goes against Sony, my old man is all for it11:49
manchickenwow, this UDS agenda looks pretty full.11:51
manchickenI have a fear that my brain will be full by midday Monday.11:51
yuriythe times are UTC?11:51
manchickenAre the names there "assignments"?11:52
manchickenOr are those things that I should prepare for? heh11:53
yuriyoy guidance is on sunday11:54
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