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Inter--the boring part is that Kopete doesnt work either.12:17
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dwidmannPete__: why not just remove it? (with dpkg --purge msttcorefonts, of course)12:18
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Pete__sorry, im transitioning from the rpm world ;)12:18
dwidmannPete__: no problem12:19
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Pete__Im sure I don't need msttcorefonts for mythtv-frontend..12:19
dwidmannPete__: truth be told, I actually run debian anymore ... I just like hanging out here12:19
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Pete__Fair enough12:20
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Pete__I'd like a way to know its not going to come back though, I don't like the idea of having ms fonts installed12:21
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paoloHi. In kernel's drivers folder for usb-videocam (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/media/video/usbvideo/ ) I see ibmcam.c, konicawc.c, ultracam.c and usbvideo.c . Does it mean that only ibm, konicawc and ultracam usb cameras are supported?12:23
dwidmannPete__: I don't think it would have installed itself ... wouldn't you have had to put it there yourself? (somehow or another, or a script or program you used did ...)12:24
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dwidmannpaolo: for cameras, at any rate, a lot of them are supported generically, with something like USB mass storage or the like12:26
Pete__dwidmann: yeh, I ran apt-get install mythtv-frontend12:27
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Pete__but I've used mythtv before with out having to install those fonts12:27
paolodwidmann: ok, so, in this case, which is the related driver?12:27
dwidmannpaolo: in that case that it's supported with usb mass storage or similar, you wouldn't need to install any driver12:28
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mat1980italian12:28
dwidmannmy usb camera is supported in that nature ... out of the box : )12:28
Pete__I better go now anyway, maybe I can figure out something tomorrow :)12:29
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dwidmannPete__: mythtv-frontend itself doesn't depend on msttcorefonts, maybe one of its depends does12:29
paolodwidmann: ok, but in which .c file I find the ioctl function for a generic usb camera?12:29
dwidmannpaolo: I've no idea12:30
paolook thnks anyway12:30
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adriana10hola12:32
dwidmannadriana10: hello12:33
adriana10hi12:33
adriana10sabes donde puedo descargar automatix?12:34
LjLadriana10: no12:34
adriana10uffff12:34
LjLadriana10: pero s que automatix es bastante mala.12:34
LjL!automatix12:34
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:34
LjLy s que es #ubuntu-es el canal para espaol ;)12:34
adriana10gracias12:35
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sidd_I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?12:38
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AdrilandHello12:39
AdrilandI would like to know how to install a printer ?12:40
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dwidmannAdriland: more than likely depends on the printer12:40
AdrilandIt's an epson12:40
AdrilandCX640012:40
dwidmannAdriland: I don't even have a printer, so I'm not the best person to ask, check http://wiki.kubuntu.org12:42
dwidmannsearch for printer, bound to be something on it12:42
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Adrilandyes I did it but it only explain for gnome interface12:42
_4str1Adriland: did you try with HPLIP toolbox ?12:43
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Adrilandyes but I didn't uncerstant12:43
Adrilandunderstand12:44
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_4strOAdriland: je suis sur #kubuntu-fr12:45
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ubuntu_do the latest automatix version run on kubuntu7-amd64(flash plugin)12:45
ubuntu_?12:45
_4strOdont ask it here :p12:45
_4strO!automatix12:45
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:45
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sidd_I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?12:46
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dwidmannubuntu_: don't know about automatix, but if it's flash you're looking for my script ( http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64 ) can take care of it12:47
meuhlolHi everybody12:48
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pablo_hola alguien habla espaol?12:49
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dwidmannsidd_: I've never seen anything like that before, that's a weird one12:50
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pablo_Hola alguien que me pueda ayudar con una webcam12:50
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sidd_dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it12:51
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wsjunioris anybody having problems with kopete transfering images?!12:52
dwidmannwsjunior: as in the little avatar images, or using send file?12:53
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sam_hi .. does anyone know how to change the colour of the background of the cube in beryl?12:53
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dwidmann!es | pablo12:54
ubotupablo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:54
dwidmann!es | pablo_12:54
ubotupablo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:54
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xerosiswsjunior: it's a bug in kopete, i get it for all files12:54
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wsjuniordwidmann: sending files12:54
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wsjuniorxerosis: ya, now i discoverd it happens to all kind of files..12:55
dwidmannwsjunior: what message protocol?12:55
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wsjuniordwidmann: msn12:55
markelhashi ppl, need some help with my kubuntu config. I've some problems with torrents, cause my upload speed is very very slow.12:55
dwidmannmmhm ... it's probably protocol specific too. Kopete has always been a bit shotty when it comes to file transfers in my experience12:56
markelhasand when i use the same torrent in my xp it's just fine the upload speed12:56
markelhasany tips for this!?12:56
GamicHere, at least, kopete is working fine with sending files over msn12:56
sidd_dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it12:56
sidd_I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?12:56
GamicMarkelhas: Are you using a router, and have you forwarded the ports KTorrent is using from the router to your computer?12:57
_4strOsidd_: if you give the program name it will help ...12:57
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wsjuniordwidmann: odd that it just happen for some users12:57
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markelhasGamic: i've used Ktorrent and utorrent (wine), the ports in the router are set.12:57
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sidd__4str0: It's a program calle openkiosk that is used for kiosk management. http;//openkiosk.soureceforge.net12:58
sidd_ http://openkiosk.soureceforge.net12:58
_4strOsidd_: I know it :)12:58
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markelhasGamic: ithis speed problem started when i update to 7.04 i think.12:58
wsjuniordwidmann: im not able to send files to another person using kopete or amsn but it works for msn users12:58
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sidd__4str0: Have you used it?12:58
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markelhasGamic: but i realized only now, because of my low racio in a private tracker12:59
dwidmannwsjunior: yeah, but sending and receiving have always been two seperate beasts AFAIK12:59
_4strOsidd_: not me but a friend12:59
sidd__4str0: Ah...So what is the cause of this problem?12:59
_4strOwe made the www.opensource-cafe.fr12:59
markelhasGamic: to get my good racio i've to upload via xp :(12:59
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sidd__4str0: So you are the perfect person to dispense advice to me!! :)01:00
Gamicmarkelhas: I can't think what the problem is there, sorry01:00
_4strOsidd_: when have you got the error message ?01:00
sidd__4str0: When I tried running kiosksetup in the terminal01:00
_4strOis openkiosk installed on your server ?01:01
sidd_Indeed01:01
markelhasGamic: i really don't see where is the problem to. maybe the 7.04 problem on my desktop don't no01:01
stoftmarkelhas: just a guess here, but sounds like BT thinks it's behind a firewall and thus upload is slow. if you can open up a few ports it might work better.01:01
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sidd__4str0: I can run kiosklock with the necessary options and it works fine01:01
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Gamicmarkelhas: You could double check that KTorrent doesn't have a limit on its Share Ratio as well01:02
markelhasstoft: i've open several port's on my router just in case, disable every firewall, and nothing :( getting crazy with this!01:02
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markelhasGamic: i've looked for every config in the client and test diferrent client :|01:03
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markelhasAnd if a google for a specif torrent to ddl the download speed is just fine01:03
Gamicmarkelhas: could you send an email to yourself with a large attachment (say 500kb or so), to see how long that takes to upload?01:04
markelhasGamic: ok going to try01:04
sidd__4str0: Any ideas?01:04
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stoftmarkelhas: you sure? not sure what the default configuration for iptables on kubuntu is01:05
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dwidmannwhich reminds me seeing as I just set everything up I need to reset up guarddog ...01:06
_4strOsidd_: nop01:06
markelhasstoft: i didn't look to the iptable cause i don't now how to01:06
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_4strOjust dont understand the exact pb, u said everything works fine :p01:07
kkerwinHi, I'm having problems getting my fglrx card to work. Here is a link to my Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/0vtArJ18.html and then one to my xorg.conf file: http://rafb.net/p/VrkQ3i33.html01:07
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LHoTcan anyone help me with beryl? its IRC channel in dead01:07
LHoTis*01:07
stoft!firestarter01:08
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:08
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stoftmarkelhas: firestarter provides a gui for manipulating iptables.01:08
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yetiwhat am i missing in my kernel config if it's complaining about device-mapper errors?01:09
stoftmarkelhas: that's probably your safest bet. if iptables is the source of your problem.01:09
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markelhasstoft: i've that one and i've open several ports on it to01:09
markelhasstoft: but now i've disable it01:09
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_4strOkkerwin: whats wrong ?01:10
stoftmarkelhas: disabled how?01:10
LHoTanyone?01:10
markelhasstoft: close the program01:10
_4strO!ask | LHoT01:10
ubotuLHoT: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:10
kkerwin_4strO: When running glxgears to test 3D, I get a: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:10
LHoTAlrighty then...01:11
kkerwin_4strO: Then, refer to my posted Xorg.0.log for more.01:11
markelhasstoft: is there problem in firestarter config?01:11
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stoftmarkelhas: afaik that doesn't disable, it's just a GUI01:11
LHoTevery time I try to start beryl as my window manager, it quits to Kwin01:11
LHoTany help?01:11
stoftmarkelhas: I would open firestarter and add an inbound traffic policy01:11
markelhasstoft: ok then01:11
_4strOLHoT: perhaps :p01:11
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Daisuke_IdoLHoT: are you using a card that can do direct rendering?01:12
LHoTyes01:12
Daisuke_Idoif so, are you using the proper drivers for that card?01:12
stoftmarkelhas: open?01:12
kkerwin_4strO: Specifically line 743: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI01:12
markelhasstoft: and what about outbound?01:12
_4strOkkerwin: with fglrx driver the command is different it looks like fglrx...01:12
LHoTI think...01:12
LHoTlet me check01:13
stoftmarkelhas: lets first look at your inbound01:13
LHoTI'm really new to Linux...01:13
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_4strO!ati01:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
kkerwin_4strO: Checking ...01:13
LHoTthanks 4str001:14
markelhasstoft: ok sorry, i've added now port the client01:14
LHoTmeh01:14
stoftis it under "Allow service"?01:14
_4strOkkerwin: what does 'fglrxinfo' give you ?01:14
LHoTfirst, how do I set my default browser? I can't stand Konqueror01:15
markelhasstoft: yes and for everyone01:15
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido: has our friend Alberto Milone ported Envy for Feisty yet ...I know ppl frown on these windows like automatic install setups but "Envy" one worked well for me in edgy01:15
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stoftok01:15
_4strOLHoT: wich video card have you ?01:15
dwidmannlhot: systemsettings -> kde components -> web browser (or some such)01:15
xerosiswsjunior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/7946801:15
stoftmarkelhas: and outbound, is it "permissive"?01:15
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mc__hello! my system is english,but i would like to have german spell checking in kword. is this possbile?01:15
markelhasstoft: nop01:15
kkerwin_4strO: http://rafb.net/p/WbF5zQ32.html01:16
stoftmarkelhas: restrictive?01:16
LHoTits an ATI... not exactly sure what model...01:16
markelhasstoft: yes, cause last time i've test like that i think01:16
kkerwinLHoT: Are you refering to my issue? Radeon Mobility 960001:16
BloodyTuxhello01:16
stoftmarkelhas: if it's restrictive you have to add a policy to "Allow service"01:16
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LHoT...no01:17
_4strOkkerwin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:17
_4strOdid have a look on this ?01:17
jttBloodyTux, you are back01:17
markelhasstoft: ok i've added the client port01:18
BloodyTuxuh huh01:18
stoftmarkelhas: now give it a try01:18
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Tired_Do I need to do anything special for my Windows machine to recognize my Kubuntu machine via the computer name rather than the LAN ip?01:18
_4strOLHoT: type 'lspci | grep ATI' in a console and you will know wich card it is01:19
markelhasstoft: going to make some test, give me five01:19
stoftnp01:19
_4strOTired_: samba01:19
LHoTk01:19
_4strOon your linux01:19
Tired_samba is for more than just network shares?  its so I can access a webpage on my kubuntu box without having to type an IP01:19
BloodyTuxso wasup?01:20
_4strOTired_: samba is for sharing files or printer01:20
wsjuniorxerosis: mine doesnt stop at 100% it stay at 0%01:20
Tired_so it won't do what I need?01:20
BloodyTuxwhat can i use for a web server and how do i set my domain name to it01:20
BloodyTux???01:20
LeeJunFanJohn Dong in here? If so - thanks for the updated ktorrent packages, it's really been crashing a lot for me - hope it won't any more.01:20
Daisuke_Idowell, if you want a webserver, apache's pretty nice01:21
_4strOTired_: what are trying to do ? install a web server or just want dhare files ?01:21
BloodyTuxyea01:21
_4strOshare01:21
BloodyTuxhow do i use my domain name with it and like cpanel or another control panel01:21
Tired_i want to be able to type http:mykubuntuboxescomputername, rather than http://192.168.0.201:21
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: i'm lost on that part of it :)01:22
LHoTRadeon Xpress 200M01:22
_4strOhaaaaaa01:22
Tired_the IP works fine, just not the computer name01:22
BloodyTux.... :(01:22
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herr_tristanTired_: You should add it to windows hosts file01:22
BloodyTuxi bought a domain and now i want to turn it into a school project but i need a domain to make it01:22
Tired_oh.  never thought of that...thanks  :)01:22
BloodyTuxi don't want to have to type http://53409534e56.3573456.243532.1235101:23
BloodyTuxjust to get to it01:23
Daisuke_Idoherr_tristan: how well will that work if his linux box has a dynamic ip?01:23
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Tired_Daisuke_Ido: I don't01:23
Tired_:)01:23
LHoTMy card is a Radeon Xpress 200M01:23
Daisuke_Idowell then01:23
Daisuke_Idocarry on01:23
_4strOTired_: look for a file names lmhost on your windows01:23
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Tired_oh, I know how, I just hadn't thought of that01:24
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herr_tristanDaisuke_Ido: but why dynamic? It's local IP, so it's no reason to have it dynamic01:24
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Daisuke_Idoherr_tristan: i know that and you know that.  most people with $40 linksys routers don't know that.01:24
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Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: go to dyndns.org01:24
Tired_Mine's a $30 D-Link, probably why I knew that  ;)01:25
Daisuke_IdoTired_: i said most :P01:25
_4strOTired_: sorry it's just host /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts01:25
Tired_i'm just teasing...i'm pretty happy now that Synergy works, it means I have now officially figured out how to do everything in Kubuntu that I used to use Windows for.01:25
Tired_in less than 2 weeks01:26
BloodyTuxdaisuke_ido: yea my budget is $0.00 since i got my new ps2 games and ddr pads and mics, and my gaming router...01:26
kkerwin_4strO: Rebooting. Will be back. Thanks again.01:26
LHoT_4str0: Radeon Xpress 200M01:26
_4strOno pb ;)01:26
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_4strOLHoT: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:27
LHoTsure01:27
_4strO!paste | LHoT01:28
ubotuLHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:28
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BloodyTuxi didn't know they had a windows irc on freenode01:28
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BloodyTux>:)01:28
markelhasstoft: i've tested the same torrent, same tracker, for five min, 1st in kubuntu box, 0,2 k/s uploading, 2nd in xp and got 30 kb/s upload.01:28
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markelhasstoft: *0,2kb/s01:29
stoftmarkelhas: which bt client? ktorrent?01:29
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LHoTsorry... how do I get that info?01:29
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markelhasstoft: i've tested in utorrent with wine, i've always used this one01:30
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_4strOLHoT: kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf01:30
LHoTthanks01:30
_4strOLHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:30
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stoftmarkelhas: I suggest you try with one of the native clients e.g. ktorrent, bittorrent, bittornado, azureus or qtorrent.01:31
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markelhasstoft: ok i can use ktorrent i've installed01:31
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stoftmarkelhas: try "apt-cache search torrent" in a console and you'll see some alternatives01:31
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_4strOktoorent just work fine01:32
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rmd_markelhas: i doubt you'll experience a difference.  i've always had improved torrent activity using utorrent under wine compared to native apps01:32
_4strOktorrent01:32
intelikeythat's the highest lag time i think ive ever seen     -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 91.469 seconds   8*{01:32
markelhasrmd_: i like very much this one, but i really want to solve this :|01:32
stoftrmd_: maybe you can explain why his speeds under wine/linux are worse than xp?01:33
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LHoT_4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18711/01:33
rmd_i can't explain the difference, but i sincerely doubt that it is a wine issue.  by all means, try it and see what happens.01:33
_4strOLHoT: ok let me have a look on it :)01:33
LHoTthanks.01:33
LeeJunFanintelikey: whoah. That's pretty bad what are you on a satellite connection with a full pipe? :)01:34
stoftmarkelhas: btw, which ports did you open, the default BT ports?01:34
stoftmarkelhas: in firestarter that is.01:34
intelikeyLeeJunFan no dialup with a full pipe01:34
intelikeyclear now.01:34
_4strOlol LHoT01:35
markelhasstoft: the default and the client01:35
intelikeyseems if you nice -19 a wget as root then irc clients suffer for it.01:35
LHoTwhat?01:35
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rmd_markelhas: have you tried disabling firestarter all together and then running the torrent again?01:35
_4strOLHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf will open you a window01:35
LHoTahhh01:35
markelhasrmd_: nop01:35
LHoTyou want that info01:35
_4strOpaste the entire content of the file :p01:35
LHoTokay01:35
LeeJunFanI remember the days of dialup for me, I used to bond 2 modems together with MPPP, and use traffic control to make sure certain traffic had some reserved bandwidth.01:35
LHoTlol01:36
LHoTsorry01:36
_4strOno pb ;)01:36
rmd_markelhas: try it and see what happens.  it could give you some valuable information.01:36
BloodyTuxi feel weird. i'm talking in the windows irc...01:36
intelikeyLeeJunFan yeah i could do a little better than what i do.  i'm just to "cheep" to...01:36
phoxycan anyone help with gfortran?01:37
rmd_markelhas: you'll probably be safe with firestarter disabled for 10 minutes01:37
LHoTastro: V01:37
LHoThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/*01:37
LHoThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/01:37
LeeJunFanintelikey: I had to, I needed to have responsive ssh even if my wife was downloading music or something.01:37
intelikeyhehhe01:37
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intelikeyi'm not sharing the connection...    and no wife to satisfy.01:38
_4strOLHoT: you cant have beryl with the fglrx driver01:38
markelhasrmd_: ok, just testing with ktorrent first to check if a native client gets better upload speed01:38
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_4strOLHoT: have you a good reason to have this driver ?01:38
LHoThmmmmmmm... so what do I do?01:38
intelikeyLeeJunFan but i totaly stand under you.01:38
rmd_markelhas: good idea.01:38
phoxywhen   I type: gfortran -o MyProg MyProg.f  and try to run MyProg later, nothing happens01:39
intelikeywhat's the command to extract the content of an initramfs image ?01:39
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intelikeyis it a cpio something ?01:39
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Daisuke_Idophoxy: this isn't the place for fortran help, i would bet 95% of the people here don't use it01:40
LHoTummm... no idea... like I said... total Linux n00b. I've been running Kubuntu for one month... and thats all my Linux experiance.01:40
_4strOLHoT: you installed it manually :p01:40
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido prolly higher01:40
LHoT???01:40
LHoThmmm01:40
Gabzphoxy: lol fortran....01:40
_4strOLHoT: it's not the driver by default ;)01:40
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, cpio - I forget the args.01:41
phoxymy feelings exactly, but I am working with some ancient ppl01:41
Daisuke_Idointelikey: was being very generous01:41
LHoTah. it was probably my friends doing01:41
mefisto__I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. is rsync the way to do that?01:41
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Daisuke_Idowho the heck uses fortran anymore anyway?01:41
intelikeythere is a   #fortran   but it's almost vacant01:41
markelhasstoft: ktorrent same slow speed01:41
phoxyanyone who needs REALLY fast computations01:41
markelhasstoft: 2.0 kb/s01:42
Gabzphoxy: they still teach fortan at my university to the enigneers...01:42
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rmd_markelhas: i'd offer to test it with ktorrent myself, but im in a hotel behind a bitch firewall01:42
markelhasstoft: and very strage cause only to users connect to me01:42
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slopis 11.2 mb/s a decent speed to top out at when transferring files between two computers on a home network?01:42
stoftmarkelhas: ok, next step, as rmd_ suggested, in firestarter: stop firewall01:43
rmd_markelhas: say that again? what's it doing?01:43
Gabzslop: on a 100mbit network ?/01:43
markelhasrmd_: i don't think that the problem is from the client but from my kubuntu config or something like that01:43
intelikeydoes anyone actually use   "info blah"  ?01:43
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slopGabz: not sure...just a cheapy discontinued router from walmart, cable modem01:43
markelhasrmd_: in ktorrent i've only to users on my peer list01:43
stoftintelikey: I do on occasion, when the man page says that more complete info can be found under info blah. that is usually not the case.01:44
Gabzslop: top theorical speed is 12.5 mb/s if you want faster upgrade to gigabit01:44
slopGabz: cool thanks01:44
rmd_markelhas: you're leaving out words.  i dont understand what you're trying to say01:44
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stoftmarkelhas: to==two?01:44
intelikeyi mean like man cpio is all but useless and sends you to info cpio  but one look at that and i feel the urge to defecate,  pardon the descriptor.      it's sickening01:44
markelhasrmd_: sorry, only 2 users one the peer list01:45
rmd_ah01:45
elaisso...how about them braves01:45
rmd_something is being blocked.  try stopping firestarter.01:45
LHoTastro: so how do I revert the changes?01:45
rmd_my guess is that it is doing something that windows firewall wasn't01:45
mefisto__I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. how do I do that?01:46
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rmd_mefisto__: cp?  copy and paste in file manager?01:47
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stoftintelikey: know what you mean01:47
nuugood night guys01:47
mefisto__rmd_: is there a quicker way, so it just updates newer/changed files?01:48
stoftmefisto__: try "konserve" the kde backup prog01:48
LHoTanyone know how to make the 24 hour clock a 12?01:48
stoftmefisto__: don't know if it'll do what you want it to, but maybe01:48
intelikeyLHoT right click on it01:48
mefisto__thanks stoft, I'll take a look01:48
stoftintelikey: now if only I could do that trick with the clock in real life too :)01:49
intelikey:)01:49
markelhasrmd_: i give up.01:49
markelhasstoft: thnks for the help01:49
markelhasrmd_: thnks for the help to01:49
LHoTstill wont change, Im navigating the menus...01:49
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stoftmarkelhas: did you try stopping the firewall in firestarter?01:50
markelhasstoft: yap :/01:50
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intelikeyLHoT it's there in the time/date  and/or  lang  settings  of the right click menu on the clock app01:51
stoftmarkelhas: sorry can't help you then. not quite my area, my isp NATs me so i'm always behind a fw.01:51
intelikeyLHoT kinda hard to find but it's there.01:51
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markelhasstoft: ok, thnk go to go. i'll try later other things. don't now what bu i will. cause i don't want to return to xp.01:52
stoftmarkelhas: k, good luck01:52
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LHoTmeh...01:53
LHoToh well.01:53
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LHoTso... _4str0 disappeared... can anyone help me with my Beryl problem?01:57
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_4strOLHoT: LHoT sorry i was googleing about your video card01:58
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LHoToh01:59
LHoTokay01:59
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LHoTsorry... Im very impatient sometimes :-[01:59
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_4strOLHoT: no pb, the pb is i dont find anything about your video card and the free driver02:01
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LHoTyes... my laptop is non existant on the makers web site...02:03
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_4strOok i find it, it will works :p02:03
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LHoTit wouldnt suprise me if this has a lot of custom stuff02:03
LHoT:-D02:03
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_4strOLHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-dri' in a console02:04
_4strOhave you a line who bgin by ii02:04
_4strO?02:04
LHoTyep02:04
_4strOok02:04
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_4strOLHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati'02:05
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_4strOalways a line with ii ?02:05
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LHoTyep02:06
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_4strOLHoT: look in the /etc/X11/ directory and find a file names xorg.0 or something like this02:06
baudthiefI'm getting VERY poor performace when transferring photos from my digicam card to my desktop - the ports are USB 2.0, it's taking something like 15 mins for 300mb. Are there known issues with ubuntu for this?02:06
_4strObaudthief: i dont know02:07
_4strOLHoT: find one ?02:08
LHoTnope02:08
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LHoT:(02:08
_4strOLHoT: or just paste the result of that 'ls /etc/X11/'02:08
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LHoTapp-defaults             gdm      xorg.conf                 Xsession.d02:09
LHoTconfig                   rgb.txt  xorg.conf.20070422170742  Xsession.options02:09
LHoTcursors                  X        Xresources                XvMCConfig02:09
LHoTdefault-display-manager  xinit    xserver                   Xwrapper.config02:09
LHoTfonts                    xkb      Xsession02:09
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_4strOLHoT: paste (in the website) the content of 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742'02:11
rmd_suggestions on a download manager for kde?02:11
LHoTk02:11
LHoTcrap02:12
_4strOrmd_: kget02:12
LHoTclosed the window02:12
LHoT!paste | LHoT02:12
_4strO^^02:12
LHoTdoesn't work for myself?02:12
_4strO/topic02:12
LHoTthats cheap02:12
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rmd_i very very much like the kde wallpaper downloader02:12
_4strO!paste | LHoT02:12
ubotuLHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:12
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LHoTthanks02:12
_4strOrmd_: what is this ?02:13
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vecinaHow come I keep having to reinstall dbus to make automounting work?02:13
vecinanot to mention pal and hal to make graphics work right...02:13
_4strOvecina: i dont know02:13
vecina_4strO: Ah.02:13
LHoThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18728/02:14
_4strOvecina: if you put a CD it will automount, isnt it ?02:14
vecina_4strO: Only if the cd drive is listed in fstab.02:15
lontrahow can i tell X that i have 1200x800 resolution and not 1024x768?02:15
_4strOvecina: weird02:15
LHoTis the image nice?02:15
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vecinathose three files bork02:15
kkerwinHi, I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/02:15
LHoTmy screen looks horrid at 1024x76802:15
vecinawhats worse, the framebuffer makes my monitor shut off.... and sometimes logging out activates framebuffer :(02:16
vecinakkerwin: Feisty hates my ATI :(02:16
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kkerwinvecina: Me too.02:16
_4strOLHoT: type in a console 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.bak && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'02:16
LHoThmmm... what was suposed to happen?02:17
_4strOcp is copy and mv is move02:17
BluesKaj_4strO:   copy and paste works too :)02:17
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kkerwinvecina: Speak Spanish at all? Your nick is a Spanish word.02:17
LHoTokay02:18
_4strOBluesKaj: a little command is easyer than a big explaination02:18
vecinakkerwin: No, I just named my computer vecina. The last one was "foxcub"02:18
vecinaI like the word vecina. Its sexy :D02:18
LHoTspeaking of IRC names, can anyone guess where my name comes from?02:19
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_4strOLHoT: you have a liveCD ?02:19
kkerwinvecina: Gotcha. Well, just in case you were curious, your computer's name means "neighbor" in Spanish.02:19
stoftkkerwin: male or female?02:19
LHoTummm... its here somewhere...02:19
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kkerwinstoft: Female. The -a suffix is (almost) always feminine.02:19
Daisuke_Ido_4strO: but if all they get is a little command without explanation, they'll never learn :)02:19
vecinakkerwin: Really , lol. I heard it was 'vixen' from someone, guess not.02:19
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dsmith_good news: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/01/1353237&from=rss02:19
Daisuke_Idovecina: depends on the neighbor, i suppose ;)02:20
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LHoT... found it02:20
LHoT...02:20
vecinahehe02:20
kkerwinvecina: Well, "female neighbor" could definitely be seen as having a sexual connotation.02:20
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Daisuke_Idodsmith_: old news :)02:20
_4strOLHoT: ok now you will have too reboot you X server (ctrl-alt-backspace) if you have any pb just come back here with the liveCD ;)02:20
dsmith_haha...02:20
LHoTits an ubuntu, that wont matter, will it?02:20
Daisuke_Idobut incredibly cool02:20
dsmith_yea coolness02:20
dsmith_so long as we get HW support02:20
kkerwindsmith_: Good point. Back on topic.02:21
Daisuke_Idoyou really think dell wants the support nightmare if they include unsupported hardware?02:21
vecinaYeah, i saw a gallery of, eh, girls once labeled "Le Vecinas", so i assumed that 'vixen' was in fact the correct translation02:21
dsmith_aye..02:21
_4strODaisuke_Ido: you're right but when someone give me a command i always note it and look for explaination02:21
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kkerwinvecina: Try "zorra" ... see also "zorro" which means fox. "Zorra" would be a female fox.02:22
_4strODaisuke_Ido: in fact i dont note it all the time02:22
vecinakkerwin: I like vecina :302:22
_4strO:)02:22
vecinaZorro means fox?02:22
kkerwinvecina: Yep. Just being a grammar Nazi. :-)02:22
kkerwinvecina: Yep.02:22
BluesKaj_4strO: what does that Xconfig cmnd do for his monitor ?02:22
kkerwinFitting name for a masked crusader, no?02:23
Daisuke_IdoZorra.  my new nickname for catherine zeta-jones02:23
vecinakkerwin: So thats why they named him that02:23
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LHoTI'm back02:23
LHoTno problem02:23
_4strOLHoT: ok everything looks fine ?02:23
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_4strOgood :)02:23
LHoTyep02:23
kkerwinAnyhow ... I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/02:23
_4strOLHoT: now we will install beryl :)02:23
LHoTrun Beryl?02:23
LHoTits all installed02:24
_4strOLHoT: ok gooooo :)02:24
LHoT:)02:24
vecinaI have never had this much trouble with linux before02:24
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rmd_can firefox take advantage of kget?02:24
LHoT:(02:25
vecinaOf course, my windows installation is even less stable02:25
vecinavirii02:25
LHoTstill the same result02:25
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LHoT:(02:25
_4strOLHoT: ok02:25
Daisuke_Idorun beryl-manager02:25
BluesKajwhat are you trying to do kkerwin ? direct rendering ? or ?02:25
LHoTthats whats running02:25
kkerwinBluesKaj: Eventually, run beryl. But first, get AIGLX working, yes.02:26
PCGenieSimplicity and flexibility is something i find a lot of in Kubuntu02:26
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LHoThmmmm... maybe I only installed beryl-manager, and totally forgot beryl02:26
LHoTlol02:26
vecinaI *DID* until i got this new computer02:26
kkerwinLHoT: Dependency?02:26
Daisuke_Idoit's possible, but pretty unlikely02:26
Daisuke_Idoyeah02:26
vecinakubuntu haet ATI02:26
LHoT?02:26
LHoTlol02:26
BloodyTuxWAZZUP02:26
kkerwinLHoT: Wouldn't beryl-manager install beryl as a dependency?02:26
vecinaWazzaaaaaaaap02:27
LHoTall the disscussions are about beryl02:27
BluesKajkkerwin:  have you consulted the open source driver / beryl tutorials ... there are quite a few02:27
LHoTI dont know02:27
kkerwinLHoT: LOL. Ya.02:27
_4strOLHoT: type 'glxinfo | grep render' in a console02:27
BloodyTux#beryl!!!!!!02:27
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BloodyTuxsorry02:27
BloodyTux #beryl02:27
BloodyTux!!!!02:27
kkerwinBluesKaj: I an't remember what the problem was, but it didn't work.02:27
BluesKajthere is als o new linux driver for Radeon cards02:27
kkerwinBloodyTux: Try: /join #beryl02:27
vecinafglrx?02:27
LHoT#beryl is dead02:27
BluesKajyes02:27
_4strOLHoT: direct rendering: Yes ???02:27
BloodyTuxthats what i meant02:28
Daisuke_Idotry #ubuntu-effects02:28
LHoTI asked for help there first02:28
kkerwinBloodyTux: :-) Just trying to help.02:28
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BloodyTux#beryl is not dead02:28
LHoTno02:28
LHoT:(02:28
vecinaNobody can answer my question no matter where i go.02:28
LHoTI had it before02:28
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vecinathere must not be an answer! A gremlin must live in my hard drive02:28
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kkerwinBluesKaj: Here we go, I rememmber what the problem with the opensource radeon driver was, I got a "non power of two textures aren't supported" message, or something like that.02:29
LHoTvenica: just keep pressing. ;) it always works02:29
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LHoTBloodyTux: Okay then, no one there is saying anything, and there is only one message per 5 min02:30
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BloodyTux... :)02:30
LHoThmmm02:30
BloodyTux#beryl!!!!!02:30
LHoTthat was a redundant statement02:30
meuhlolre all02:30
LHoT...02:30
meuhlolwhats up?02:31
LHoTthe sky02:31
LHoT:)02:31
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vecinagas prices02:31
LHoTlol02:31
LHoTtrue02:31
BloodyTuxyour computer is outside???02:31
LHoTwell, yes02:32
LHoTim on a laptop02:32
LHoTon my balcony02:32
LHoT:)02:32
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BloodyTuxtype /join #beryl!!!!!02:32
BloodyTuxgood beryl help02:32
LHoTI just came from there, it's inactive02:33
_4strOLHoT: 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in it02:33
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BloodyTuxtry again02:33
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BloodyTuxi got good help02:33
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_JohnyHello02:33
BloodyTuxmight be #beryl!!!!02:34
LHoTwhere do I paste02:34
LHoT?02:34
LHoTGO AWAY!02:34
BloodyTuxwhat?02:34
jtholmes!pastebin02:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:34
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_JohnyI just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?02:34
_4strOLHoT: you have to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:34
LHoToh02:35
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_4strOand paste what you have on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in the file02:35
LHoTjust replace it all?02:35
_4strOyep02:35
LHoTk02:35
bob__hi all02:35
bob__does anyone got an SDCARD slot to work with edgy?work02:35
LHoTk02:36
_4strOLHoT: save it and restart X :)02:36
LHoTnow check for direct rendering again02:36
LHoTokay02:36
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kkerwinOk, from the #ATI channel, if you're having problems getting beryl working and are using an ATI card, they don't suggest using the fglrx module, but rather the opensource radeon driver.02:37
_4strOkkerwin: right :)02:37
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velleHi, which torrent client can you recommend? I am using ktorrent, but i dont see how to judge what I want to share and what I dont.02:38
LeeJunFanvelle: that's how torrent works, you share what you are downloading.02:38
meuhlolvelle what you have as OS?02:39
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meuhlolKubuntu or Ubuntu? Edgy or Feisty?02:39
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meuhlolvelle, personally i'm at Feisty KDE, & KTorrent is good for me =) nothing needed at plus02:40
flowingfireHey everyone!  I have a server running in my system tray that I can't disable.  I have no idea what to do; It's not in my autostart folder, and it's not able to be removed by the standard click-n-close method... ?02:40
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LHoTback02:40
LHoTnothing still02:40
meuhlolflowingfire: what you have? KDE or Gnome?02:40
velleLeeJunFan: I totally agree, but what happens is that it is automatically sharing everything, which is more than 1024 files. So now I am not able to download anymore myself, I get an error if I try, saying that I have too many open files.02:40
flowingfiremeuhlol: I have KDE-- kubuntu02:40
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_Johnyvelle, you can try Azureus or Ctorrent (under terminal)02:41
meuhlolflowingfire: feisty?02:41
velleIm using kubuntu... dont remember which version, sorry02:41
meuhlolvelle: try Ktorrent :)02:41
_4strOLHoT: direct rendering: No ?02:41
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flowingfiremeuhlol?: Indeed, I am running good ol' fun (yet buggy) feisty02:41
LHoTno02:41
LHoT:(02:41
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_4strOLHoT: reboot the box :)02:41
_Johnyvelle, just piu lsb_release -a in your terminal to see which version you're using02:42
meuhlolflowingfire, try this one: ksysguard ;) and in it you choose your process & after u kill it xD02:42
velle_Johny: thanks. Im using dapper02:42
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LHoTits not so much a box box as it is a dough nut box02:42
Pollywogflowingfire: did you say this thing puts an icon in the tray?02:43
LHoT:P02:43
_4strO;)02:43
LHoTrebooting02:43
_4strOok02:43
flowingfireYes, Pollywog-- it puts a thing in the tray... but it doesn't recognize it in when I click to configure the tray... like it's not there.02:43
meuhlolflowingfire: sudo ksysguard02:43
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Pollywogflowingfire: what does the icon look like?02:43
flowingfiremehulol: Ok.02:43
meuhlolflowingfire: and in tab of "table of processus" you kill him02:44
flowingfirePollywog: a blue circle of some kind... It showed up after I clicked a tab in properties on a folder to share stuff on the web...02:44
Pollywogoic02:44
Pollywogright clicked this icon and no menu comes up?02:45
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flowingfireproblem is I'm not sure what it's called lol02:45
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meuhlolflowingfire: what is the name of server you are?02:46
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LHoTdirect rendering is a "no"02:47
LHoT:(02:47
_4strOrhoooo !02:47
flowingfiremeuhlol: since the whole thing was unintentional I'm not sure... What I did was click the second tab to the right after activating sharing under a folder's properties... Then I clicked start applet.... and the applet never went away02:47
BloodyTuxlhot, beryl is active right now02:47
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LHoTas in peopl helping?02:47
BloodyTux*#beryl02:47
Pollywogit might be one of the panel applets02:47
LHoTor casually ignoring02:47
BloodyTux* #beryl02:47
BloodyTuxyea helping02:47
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_JohnyI just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?02:48
_4strOcan you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:48
_4strOLHoT: can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:48
flowingfirehmm.... I just removed all applets from my bar and it seems to be gone along w/ everything else lol02:48
jason_hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please02:48
ejupinHow can I get my usb mic working? I thought I have all the setting right.. but nothing02:48
meuhlolflowingfire: try to reboot your machine, and tell me if it come on boot or not02:49
flowingfireok.... I'll brb then.02:49
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velleMy solution was to rm -r ~/.kde/ktorrent/*           now ktorrent stops sharing out, so now I have to find a way to share just some of it again :)02:49
jason_hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please02:50
Pollywogjason_: if you can't get an answer here you might post on the forums02:51
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jason_Pollywog: thanks, ill try it02:51
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BloodyTuxughhh wine sucks butt!02:53
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tpc__y dont u use utorrent02:54
BloodyTux#ubuntu-trivia02:54
mahdiwine is way sweet02:54
LHoT!pastebin02:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:54
BloodyTux!trivia02:54
ubotuThe #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.02:54
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anon32ick, trivia bot? omg...02:55
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flowingfireHi... I guess that worked, because I restarted and I don't have that nasty thing there anymore.02:56
flowingfireBut now my toolbar is all messy hehe02:56
flowingfirethanks :)02:56
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LHoT!nothing02:57
ubotuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.02:57
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anon32I've got a really old cruddy PC with 64M RAM and a P-II 350MHz, should I bother with X?02:58
BloodyTux!mada02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
BloodyTux!nada02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
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danny500Hey guy's, need help really badly02:58
danny500ubuntu won't load up the desktop02:59
danny50099% of HD being used02:59
danny500I'm using live cd02:59
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danny500anyone?02:59
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anon32danny500, eh? delete some junk03:00
danny500I need to get into my hard drive but don't know how to using live cd03:00
anon32danny500, "mount /dev/harddrivethingyname /mnt/randomgenericfoldername"03:00
danny500hd = hd003:01
mahdiset it up as slave to a friends computer if the livecd can't load03:01
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anon32danny500, that doesn't help... let's see, a) what kind of hard drive do you have? ide/pata? sata? scsi? b) which hard drive (number) are you trying to access?03:02
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danny500ide03:02
anon32danny500, your hard drive is master on the first channel right?03:02
danny500003:02
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danny500yes03:02
keylockerhello all!03:02
danny500it's master03:02
Jumpi recently installed kde on top of ubuntu and now my video thumbnails do not show in kde, but they work in gnome... how can i fix this?03:02
meuhlolre all03:02
keylockersomeone know about beryl problems with kubuntu now?03:02
mahdi!hello | keylocker03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
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anon32danny500, do you know which partition number your Ubuntu install is on?03:03
danny500I don't know, 1?03:03
danny500it's using the whole drive03:03
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anon32danny500, ok, now we have enough info03:03
keylockermahdi: ;] 03:03
danny500ok03:03
mahdihm03:04
anon32danny500, run the following command "sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu"03:04
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danny500the partitions name is Netkiller btw03:05
BloodyTuxhow do i add like xfce to the session list03:05
anon32danny500, doesn't matter :-P03:05
anon32did the command work?03:05
danny500oh ok03:06
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danny500I got a pop up saying the blah blah blah is using 100% of space given03:06
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anon32danny500, ignore it, enter the partition from the command line and junk some pr0n03:08
anon32"cd /mnt/ubuntu"03:08
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anon32and "rm porno.avi"03:08
danny500I don't have porn on my drive lol03:08
Jumpis it just me or is kubuntu faster than ubuntu?03:08
danny500My girlfriend get's the job done so I don't need that shit lol03:08
Sleepy_CoderJump:  Might depend on how Kubuntu uses your hardware. :p03:09
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danny500Jump, they are exactly the same, just diferent desktop type03:09
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anon32danny500, "girlfriend"? lol03:09
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Sleepy_Coder*cough*inflatable*cough*03:09
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danny500yeah, you know girl, that I date03:09
Jumpprograms in kde just load faster... konquerer loads instantly but firefox takes 5-10 sec03:09
Jumpand in gnome things like amarok are slower to me03:09
Cosmo_I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?03:10
danny500haha your funny, this is her, www.myspace.com/michelletheluckygirl03:10
anon32eww, myspace... I won't ever touch that cruft03:10
Sleepy_CoderI guess it depends on which desktop manager the programs were made for and how long it takes for the other desktop manager to startup and and load those. :)03:10
Sleepy_Coder-and*03:10
PCGenieFirefox is much more exact than IE from MS, it shows the page excatly as it is built03:10
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keylockernoone can help with beryl?03:10
danny500keylocker03:10
danny500google it03:10
keylockerdanny500: have notting03:11
keylockerive tryed03:11
anon32danny500, hate to diss on your "gf" but that webpage is horribly designed03:11
danny500whats wrong then?03:11
Sleepy_Coderkeylocker:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page03:11
Sleepy_Coder:)03:11
Sleepy_CoderIt's a good read.03:11
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Sleepy_CoderAnd looks pretty too. :p03:11
danny500anon32, yes I know03:11
DaveQBanyone know where the LiveCD gets the dir /usr/share/wallpaper from ?03:11
Sleepy_CodereBay?03:11
DaveQBits not in the squashfs file that everything else comes from.03:11
danny500anon32, the thing I hate most aobut it is the fact that you can't fucking message her because there is some huge button link over the entire top of the page03:12
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anon32danny500, I notice the tiled wallpaper and bad choice of colors....03:12
danny500yes03:12
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keylockerSleepy_Coder: argh03:12
keylockermy good03:12
keylockerive searched all this site03:12
keylockergoogle to03:12
slop|topwhat console command would i use to view a list of all IDE devices?03:12
keylockero03:12
danny500oh well, I really don't care though, she's good looking so I let her get away with it lol03:12
keylockerand notting helped me03:13
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DaveQBslop|top  lshw03:13
danny500anyways, i'll go check to see if it worked03:13
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PCGenieTry KDE-look.org03:13
DaveQBslop|top sudo lshw03:13
keylockerim notting asking if i dont searched....03:13
keylockerargh03:13
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slop|topDaveQB: thx!03:13
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Sleepy_CoderI think I might set up beryl again... :<03:14
Sleepy_CoderI had it working once...but I kind of got rid of it because I hated all the animations.03:14
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Daisuke_Idoso turn them off :)03:14
Sleepy_CoderThey were cool to look at for like..2 seconds.  Then they just got annoying.  I think the window switcher and the desktop cube were the only useful ones.03:14
danny500anon32, can't chat in other window03:14
Sleepy_CoderI don't want my computer to rain.  I don't need a computer crying on me.  Get the emo off mai screen bitch!03:14
Sleepy_Coderhehehe03:15
danny500I only have a 20GB drive thats how03:15
Daisuke_Ido!ohmy03:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:15
Sleepy_CoderSorry.. :<03:15
Daisuke_Idobut i see what you mean03:15
Sleepy_CoderI keep forgetting I'm in a G-rated channel.03:15
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Daisuke_Idoi use a very slight wobble03:15
anon32Daisuke_Ido, come on....03:15
Daisuke_Idoand fade effects on minimize/maximize03:15
anon32danny500, hehe, 20GB?03:15
danny500what, I was swearing not to long ago and ubotu didn't say a word lol03:15
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Sleepy_CoderI don't like the windows wobbling too much.  I didn't know you could turn down the jelly effect without getting rid of it. :)03:15
danny500yes03:15
danny500P# lol03:15
Daisuke_Idoanon32: no "come on" to it, that's the rules here03:15
danny500P303:15
DaveQBso anyone familiar with the way the LiveCD and installer works ?03:16
anon32I feel your pain, mine's 80GB... video fills that up pretty quick03:16
anon32Daisuke_Ido, that's no reason to be anal about it...03:16
Daisuke_Ido170gb of tv shows :\03:16
anon3240GB here.... I only collect 3 series and one of em died after 1 season03:16
danny500I don't loaded every episode of Trigun, Tokyo Drift, S.P.R., 300, and the first season of Fresh Prince of bell air, thats how I filled it lol03:16
luckyonedigikam question - I would like on image download from my camera for it to make this directory structure /YYYY/MM/DD/image.jpg or whatever03:17
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anon32danny500, ...fresh prince of bell air?03:17
danny500yeah man, sick show03:17
danny500:P03:17
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anon32oh yeah, and Trigun sucks03:17
danny500I like it03:17
danny500oh and my drive isn't mounting03:17
danny500I'm going to kill someone03:18
anon32danny500, what's the error?03:18
anon32no death threats though, I'm pretty serious about that03:18
danny500um, error lets see, it won't mount03:18
BloodyTux!offtopic03:18
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:18
anon32danny500, does it say anything?03:18
danny500there isn't even an icon for it03:18
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danny500no03:18
danny500cause according to livecd, the drive is none exsistent03:18
anon32danny500, there doesn't need to be an icon.... browse to it from the command line03:18
danny500ok whats the command for that?03:19
anon32danny500, "cd <whereeveryoumountedit>"03:19
anon32and "ls" prints what's in the current folder03:19
danny500cd: /dev/hd0: No such file or directory03:19
Daisuke_Idoscrubs (oh yeah), daria, south park, the simpsons, saved by the bell, family guy...03:19
anon32danny500, were you listening a few lines back?03:20
anon32never mind, paste the output of the command "mount" to http://pastebin.ca03:20
danny500no, but I was reading03:20
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danny500thats the drive03:22
danny500,,,,,,        /dev/hda1 on /mnt/Netkiller type ext3 (rw)03:22
anon32danny500, there ya go, it's not "hd0, it's hda1"03:22
anon32:-)03:22
DaveQBso whats the problem danny500 ?  Sorry, jumping in in mid conversation i think :)03:22
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anon32DaveQB, we fixed it, it was basically mounting partitions.... (he needed grounding in the fundamentals)03:23
danny500hard drive is full and ubuntu is being a bitch and won't let me in the house03:23
DaveQBlol03:23
DaveQBi see03:23
danny500whats with that anyways?03:23
anon32danny500, for future reference, hard drives are "hda1 hdb1 hda2 hdb2, etc"03:23
danny500ok03:23
DaveQBhd0 is grub like03:23
danny500It should at least let me in so I can delete crap03:23
DaveQBcat /boot/grub/devices.map will show that hd0 points to03:24
anon32danny500, all OS' need the extra space for cacheing and tmp03:24
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BloodyTuxsometimes ide drives get sucked into beind hd0 like my friends03:24
danny500well it can stop cacheing and let me in!03:24
anon32danny500, also, you mighta been able to boot into recovery/singleuser mode03:24
danny500tried that03:24
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DaveQBdanny500  what wont let you in ?03:24
kkerwinHi, I'm having a problem with beryl that perhaps a picture would explain better than words: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2503/berylproblempp1.jpg03:24
danny500still kicked me off to the login window03:24
stoftit's not perhaps that swap is inactive?03:24
danny500I can't login03:25
anon32danny500, you coulda hit "ctrl alt 1" to get a console03:25
DaveQBdanny500 used a VT instead ?03:25
stoft(just a thought, don't know what the prob is)03:25
danny500a what?03:25
anon32danny500, doing a GUI login needs space03:25
anon32danny500, console = command line screen03:25
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anon32try hitting that :-)03:25
DaveQBdanny500 login in , in text mode03:25
Cosmo_ I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?I am running 7.04 kubuntu03:25
DaveQBlike anon32 said, CTRL+ALT+F103:25
anon32danny500, it's ctrl alt f7 to get back to graphical03:25
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danny500I know03:26
DaveQBhittin the command line is the best way to troubleshoot03:26
danny500so how do I mount my drive again?03:26
DaveQBhda1 ?03:26
danny500reinstalling is another lol03:26
anon32mount <device> <some empty folder>03:26
danny500yes03:26
DaveQBmount /dev/hda1 /dest/directory03:26
DaveQBsudo ^03:26
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DaveQBanon32  doesnt even need to be empty ;)03:26
anon32so, for example, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/isuck03:26
DaveQBlol03:27
anon32DaveQB, but that's very smart, lol03:27
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DaveQBdoes anyone know where the installer gets its wallpaper from ?03:27
danny500ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/03:27
danny500mount: mount point /home/danny500/ does not exist03:27
DaveQBits not in the squashfs system at all03:28
DaveQBdanny500  mkdir -p /home/danny50003:28
DaveQBand then mount it03:28
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danny500IT WORKED! THANKS GUYS!03:29
DaveQBnp03:29
meuhlolre$03:30
danny500so if I ever have to do this again all I type is " sudo mkdir -p /home/danny500" ?03:30
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danny500then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/" ?03:31
DaveQBdanny500  if the folder doesnt already exist03:31
DaveQBdanny500  if it does, then skip that step [the step to make the dir 'mkdir03:31
meuhloldanny500: mkdir is only for making directory :)03:31
DaveQB'] 03:31
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johnyhelp03:32
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anon32!terminal | danny50003:32
ubotudanny500: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:32
johnysorry03:32
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anon32you might wanna read that some time03:32
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danny500ok thanks guy's / gurls :D03:33
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johnyIs compiz enebled in Feisty by default?03:33
ssaahello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller pleas03:33
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ssaajohny: no it's not03:34
anon32johey, no03:34
johnyssaa: So only in Ubuntu, right?03:34
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ssaafjohny: feisty is a version of ubuntu03:34
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BloodyTuxwill some one here help key locker?03:34
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ssaajohny: feisty is version 7.04. All the versions have a name03:35
johnyssaa: I mean - Ubuntu has more features included in new release than Kubuntu, that's all. Is it right?03:35
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danny500where abouts is the trash bin folder?03:36
korobaseA lot of programs crashed after I logon the kubuntu's desktop!!!03:36
stoftnn03:36
korobaseHow to fix this bug?03:36
danny500or does sudo rm blah blah blah totally remove the data?03:36
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johny!rules |korobase03:37
ubotukorobase: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:37
rmd_danny500: that depends on if "the data" is contained in that package, another package, or maybe a hidden folder03:37
mahdidanny500: trash:/03:37
ssaajohny: it has the same features. Kubuntu is based in kde and Ubuntu in Gnome . thats the difference03:37
ssaahello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller please03:37
ssaaanyone?03:37
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mahdissaa: not sure, but is that controlled by xorg.conf?03:38
danny500does sudo rm totally remove data or just move it to the trash bin?03:38
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mahdidanny500: it removes it03:38
ssaanevermind i found a solution03:38
anon32danny500, it unlinks the files so they're more or less gone03:38
danny500ok thanks03:38
ssaajohny: need more help?03:38
johnyssaa: Hmm...despite I don't think you're right - Just compare Kubuntu's new features to Ubuntu's one ( I mean, Desktop changes) not kernel and xorg..03:38
danny500I just removed the fresh prince :(03:38
danny500oh well, I need a ddv burner to burn the stuff and remove it03:39
korobaseubotu:I need help.don't need the rules or any Guidelines.03:39
danny500dvd*03:39
ssaajohny: like what changes?03:39
johnyssaa: wait please03:39
korobaseubotu is a bot?03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
DaveQBlol03:39
BloodyTux!guidlines03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guidlines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
BloodyTux!rules03:40
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:40
BloodyTux:)03:40
mahdijohny: the only new features i've seen are restricted drivers and desktop effects03:40
korobase!crash03:40
ubotuFor help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures03:40
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korobaseubotu:crash kubuntu.03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crash kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
carutsuhello, do someone know how i can install Thunderbird 2.0?03:41
carutsuis it on the repos?03:41
johnyssaa: these are Ubuntu's features --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour and here --> Kubuntu's ---> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php03:41
korobasecarutsu:sudo apt-get install thunderbird.03:41
carutsukorobase: nop that's 1.5 i already have it03:42
carutsui want 2.003:42
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mahdiin all fairness, that ubuntu link is actually a list of changes in fiesty, the kubuntu link is an introduction to kubuntu03:43
korobasecarutsu:you can download the version 2.0 and install it.03:43
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carutsukorobase: from source...03:44
korobaseno.03:44
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carutsuthen?03:44
korobasebinary which have been builded.03:44
MenaWhy my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds03:45
Menaand every time restart and i tried recovery mode03:45
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johnykorobase: You might have to compile it from source ---> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Linux_Build_Prerequisites03:45
Menado same thing03:45
korobasecarutsu:http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/03:45
carutsukorobase: Let me check03:46
johny.seen Jucato03:46
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soulrider__!seen jucato03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
danny500ok I'm going to check and see if all is good now, If I don't return in 40 minutes the all is good :) thanks guy's03:47
soulrider__doesnt work anymore johny03:47
johnysoulrider__: Sorry, what doesn't work?03:47
korobaseany body meet many crash of kubuntu's application program?03:47
soulrider__the seen feature03:48
soulrider__korobase: nope03:48
zibrah3edadept03:48
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korobasekicker.03:48
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korobasewhy and how to fix all this problems?03:48
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zibrah3edwhat is your first language korobase there may be an ubuntu chat better suited for you03:49
azgtemwhy can't i boot a recent cd (not even the alternate, not even i386) on a k6-2 computer? for instance, as soon as i press enter at the "boot:" prompt (no matter what kernel options) my computer simply restarts!03:49
korobaseno.I am using kubuntu,not ubuntu.03:49
johnysoulrider__: ah..thanks. Did it ever work?03:49
zibrah3edsame thing03:49
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soulrider__it used to03:50
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zibrah3ed At what speed did you burn the livecd03:51
MenaWhy my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds03:51
johnysoulrider: Do you know what language was it written in by chance?03:51
soulriderno idea03:51
Menaand every time restart and i tried recovery mode do same thing03:51
BloodyTuxwhats a good im thing besides kopete and gaim?03:52
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Menanothing as i guess03:52
anon32BloodyTux, konversation03:52
johnyMena: Have you tried to check the root partition?03:52
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BloodyTuxk03:52
Menajohny, i cant03:52
BloodyTuxwait, konversation is for irc03:52
korobasecarutsu:maybe we must using thunderbird from source's building.I download the binary and find there is a share lib error while run this program.03:52
anon32OMG, mozilla's build reqs say that compiling Firefox needs over 1GB RAM!03:53
Menajohny, in recovery mode it do fsck imeddiatly03:53
zibrah3edMena go to /etc/fstab and edit the tail of your root partition to "0 0" instead of "0 1" will shut off self che03:53
carutsukorobase: er, ok, im downloading it03:53
johnyMena: you could use a live version...and do a normal check from console03:53
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sam_does anyone know how to set in config .the number of desktops to start with?03:53
Menazibrah3ed, and this wth LiveCd ...ok03:53
zibrah3edsi'03:54
Menajohny, i wil ltry if didnt work i will do zibrah3ed way >>> :) thanks03:54
zibrah3edits a hack and really won't solve your problem but will let you find out if your hd is trashed03:54
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zibrah3edif hd ok it will boot03:55
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Menazibrah3ed, ok03:55
johnysam_: Maybe just checking the settings where those desktops are located will set them by default...03:55
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MenaBye03:55
MenaThanks03:55
zibrah3edhol03:55
johnyMena: bye03:55
korobaseBye,all03:56
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sam_johny: it's a strange one...used kcontrol and changed them..everytime i log back in have 2 instead of 403:56
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johnysam_: Then asking in #kde may help...03:56
sam_doh....whoops...wrong chnnel03:56
mahdianybody else had problems with samba after upgrading to fiesty? all my shares stopped working03:57
johnysam_: It's ok :-D03:57
sam_doh03:57
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PhantaseeYeeha!03:58
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PhantaseeI have a small issue.03:58
zibrah3ed....03:58
johnygo ahed then --:D03:58
PhantaseeI'm wondering how I can find out what libraries come with Kubuntu dapper03:58
Phantaseeso that i can just get the ones i need that don't come with it. the kubuntu rig isn't connected to the internet03:59
Phantaseeso it's an issue for me.03:59
zibrah3edare you trying to upgrade?03:59
Phantaseeno, i'm trying to install a bunch of applications.04:00
Phantaseesome games, some more serious programs.04:00
zibrah3edthat aren't part of the base system?04:00
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PhantaseeI would assume they aren't, because I get messages telling me the required libraries are missing.04:00
Phantaseeoh, no, the applications aren't part of the base system.04:01
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zibrah3eddo you have acess to a usb key04:01
PhantaseeI lost mine. =(04:01
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zibrah3eddamn04:01
PhantaseeI usually just burn everything to a blank CD-R, since I have a few of them lying around, but obviously I can't just keep doing that.04:01
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zibrah3edwell what i do to my comps that are off network is   to d/l the .debs and use apt to install the local packages04:02
PhantaseeSay, if my USB key was a U3 smart drive, would that work very well with linux?04:02
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zibrah3edout of my league04:03
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Phantaseei did dl the debs. i burned them all to cd, and when i copied them to the hdd, i tried to use the install programs menu04:03
redfiveanyone know how to get nspluginwrapper wo work?04:03
Phantaseebut i had to right click to install the packages.04:03
zibrah3edyou need to add the cd in the repositories04:03
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Phantaseei'm sorry?04:04
zibrah3edyou were trying to se adept correct04:04
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zibrah3eduse04:04
Phantaseeyeah. i think. i'm fairly certain.04:04
zibrah3edgo to adept-->manage repositories04:05
zibrah3edon title bar of adept04:06
carutsukorobase: I downloaded from the site04:06
Phantaseeokay.04:06
carutsukorobase: and it works perfectly04:06
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Phantaseeso then i have to make it think the cd is a repository, which lets it install properly?04:07
carutsuKorobase: may be you dont have some libraries? I must tell you i already have Thunderbird 1.5, may be that's why i have the needed libraries, i dont know04:07
zibrah3edshould popup a window04:07
Phantaseethe issue is a lot of the programs had a long list of required libraries, but i assumed they came with kubuntu.04:07
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zibrah3edgo to 3rd party software04:07
Phantaseeaye04:07
zibrah3edthen at bottom add cdrom04:08
Phantaseek, i'll give that a shot04:08
zibrah3ednever tried it on feisty but worked on dapper04:08
Phantaseebut i had copied the contents of the cd to the hdd. so everything on it was already available.04:08
zibrah3edwhere did you copy it too04:08
Phantaseemy home folder, in a sub folder, actually04:09
Phantaseei right clicked, and it gave me an option to install the packages, which it did, in a small white window04:09
zibrah3edunless you point adept there it won't see them04:09
Phantaseeit installed a lot of them, but some said they needed certain libraries04:09
Phantaseelike celestia, for example.04:09
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Phantaseeit's in the games section, i believe, but i thoought it would be interesting to see what the program could do, so i got that04:10
zibrah3eddid you meet all the dependencies04:10
Phantaseealong with the files04:10
zibrah3edthats the trouble d/l single debs04:10
Phantaseei dont' think i did, which is why i want to know how i can find out what libraries dapper comes with, so i can get the ones i dont have.04:11
thonyhi04:11
gtrplris there a way to roll back updates/upgrades ?04:11
gtrplrback to a "fresh install" state ?04:11
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zibrah3edcheck out /etc/apt/sources.list and go throug the servers to find your file04:12
gtrplrwithout reinstalling04:12
gtrplrah04:12
gtrplrhadnt thought of that04:12
Phantaseesorry, where would that be? on the machine running it? or is it on the internet?04:13
zibrah3edyou would need to use the inernet04:13
ubuntuhello04:13
BloodyTuxhi04:13
zibrah3edhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/04:14
dwidmann:O seems we can now preorder Hitachi 1TB drives for $39904:14
Phantaseeah04:14
zibrah3edwill be an ftp site04:14
thonynew to linus stuffy04:15
thony...linux i mean04:15
zibrah3edlinus was good04:15
Phantaseei'm not sure what i'm looking for here...04:15
zibrah3edname of the creator04:15
thonymmmmmmmmmmh04:16
Phantasee@dwidmann where can we preorder the drives? and that's US$?04:16
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dwidmannPhantasee: let me check, friend linked me to it, yeah USD04:16
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mahdiis there any good replacement for samba?04:18
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hitmanWillymahdi, as far as i know, samba's it if you want to talk to win machines04:18
_4strOmahdi: samba ^^04:18
HymnToLifemahdi, for file transfers, FTP04:18
HymnToLifesamba is awfully unreliable, especialy on the Windows side04:19
mahdii'd rather a stable file sharing protocol, but after i upgrade to fiesty it sh*t the bed04:19
mahdii tried working around with ftp and didn't get it04:19
Phantaseewell, i'll have a poke around, thanks a bunch zibrah3ed!04:19
zibrah3edwindows in a vm04:19
zibrah3edk04:20
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mahdiis there a good how-to on running a local ftp server?04:21
dwidmanngah, I think my Kopete logging is messed up :\04:21
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mahdii nabbed gproftpd but i didn't quite get it, and the documentation is for people who know what they are talking about.04:23
zibrah3edlo04:23
_4strOhttp://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html04:23
Jucatodwidmann: how is it messed up?04:24
dwidmannJucato: history seems to have disappeared as an option, much to my dismay04:25
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mahdiany folder i try to share, when i navigate to it, says "blah/blah/blah does not exist"04:25
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dwidmannwait, it's back again, seems to be tied to my online status o.O04:25
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JucatoO.o04:25
_4strOmahdi: http://www.vsftpdrocks.org/ and http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html04:26
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_4strOmahdi: for vsftpd configuration04:26
dwidmannEven  more helpfully, my previous history doesn't seem to be available04:26
mahdithanks, taking a look at it04:26
Jucatodwidmann: aw... :/04:27
dwidmannI wonder if I missed some chowning/chmodding when I moved everything over to my shiny new etch install04:27
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dwidmannat any rate, I have andrew hunting down where he found the link to the hitachi 1TB drive ...04:28
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MarkedaUm, does Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?04:29
Sleepy_CoderI think I might have too much free time:  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/photoricon/too_much_free_time.jpg04:29
dwidmannseems stuff is all over google for it though, ... maybe the one page was an old one, because here is a review of it http://www.pcworld.com/product/specs/id,29924-c,harddrives/specs.html04:30
MenaIs there a bug  abot running Gparted on kubuntu04:30
Menaabout04:30
HymnToLifeMena, not that I know of04:30
HymnToLifedo you have a problem running it ?04:30
MenaHymnToLife, NEVER MIND IT OPENED NOW04:31
MenaHymnToLife, why they didnt include qparted on the installtion04:31
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JucatoMena: QtParted is included in the Desktop (Live) CD but isn't installed by default when you install Kubuntu04:32
MenaJucato, OK04:33
Jucato(probably based on the presumption that you don't always reformat/repartition your drives)04:33
MenaJucato, ok04:34
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Menaok thanks bye04:34
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mahdioh good lord did vsftpd give me ten thousand make errors04:35
voidmageargh.04:35
voidmagefor the third time firefox has crashed and "forgotten" my open tabs04:36
mahdi!pastebin04:37
mahdistill haven't figured out how to use that dumb bot.04:37
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morvok__anyone farmiliar with Silo?04:38
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dwidmannSleepy_Coder: You do have too much free time, can I borrow some?04:39
parad0x`sup04:39
Sleepy_Coder:D04:39
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voidmagefirefox+kde: does anybody else have random crashes?04:39
mahdithis is going to sound horribly ignorant, but how do you figure out your ip address if you're behind a router?04:40
thonymorvok:SILO, the Sparc Improved boot LOader, is a booting loader program that runs from the PROM of SPARC (32-bit) and UltraSPARC (64-bit) based systems, covered by the terms of the GNU General Public Licence. It can be used for the booting of operating systems from a variety of file systems.04:40
parad0x`i do when i try and use java apps in firefox04:40
dwidmannmahdi: go to www.ipaddress.com04:40
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thonyhttp://www.sparc-boot.org/04:41
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mahdidwidmannL wow, neat, thanks!04:41
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stanleyanybody know how to do offline message sending in kopete using an msn messenger account??04:42
parad0x`use gaim04:43
dwidmannmahdi: you're welcome04:43
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dwidmannstanley: the offline messages are a server-side thing, that's why it works with yahoo and not msn or aim04:44
stanleyhmmm ok04:44
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MarkedaDoes Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?04:46
dac_have ubuntu 7.04 In files in desktop, can this replace my 6.06 OC that's on my HD now?04:46
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scastCan anyone please tell me what's the command to run konqueror from console like I was just clicking the System Menu and clicking Home Menu?04:47
dwidmannMarkeda: no, you'll need to install the build-essential package, and probably run something like "sudo apt-get build-dep whateverpackageitisyouwanttobuild04:47
dwidmann"04:48
dwidmannscast: it's painfully obvious actually, the command to run konqueror is ... konquero04:48
dwidmann**konqueror04:48
Markeda. .. ... Odd. Seems like an odd thing not to include in an OS, but thanks for the info.04:48
TheDebuggerkonqueror --profile filemanagement04:48
tychoMarkeda: Unless you were asking about decompressing .tar.gz files, in which case you can just use tar -xvf whatever.tar.gz04:49
scastdwidmann: it's not the same windows that shows up when you run "konqueror" than the one you get when you go to System Menu and select Home Folder... I want the one that opens with the Home Folder.04:49
TheDebuggerkonqueror --profile filemanagement04:49
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TheDebugger.....04:49
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TheDebuggerLearn to read04:49
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dac_ok,ty04:50
dwidmannTheDebugger: prefix the message with their name so it highlights it in red for them04:50
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dwidmannmakes it harder to miss04:50
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scastI guess he's having a bad day?04:50
Markedatycho, no. I have it extracted via right-click->extract here, then went to the terminal, got into the folder and was trying to do the ./configure stuff... Trying to install sunbird.04:51
tychoMarkeda: Ah, you're way ahead of me ;-)04:51
thonyany knows 'baot a software used to run .exe files in kubuntu?04:52
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billymobileanyone familiar with apcups on kubuntu?04:52
dwidmannthony: never heard of it, I use WINE for that04:52
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thonydwidmann:lol04:53
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thonysw04:54
thonydwidmann:thnx04:54
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scastHeh, I can't really believe TheDebugger got mad because I missed his answer.04:55
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tonyyarussoJucato: Yes, installing an Edgy Nvu .deb _should_ work for the time being.  !nvu has info on getting a Feisty pkg eventually.04:56
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Jucatotonyyarusso: heh... wasn't that something I mentioned/asked 2 days ago? :D04:57
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beer|drunkwhat video podcast rss reader do you guys recomend"04:58
Jucatoanyway, thanks. I now know where to point people's attention :)04:58
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MenaWhy the air temp wont work although i installed s.m.a.r.t tools and lm-senors ....what else i need04:58
dwidmannMena: you probably havne't set up lm-sensors properly04:59
beer|drunkstdin: do you have to wait for the download, or can you watch while you are downloading?04:59
Menadwidmann, no i did04:59
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dwidmannpositive about that?04:59
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dwidmannlm-sensors should net you the cpu temp and motherboard temp. Granted, you have to have the physical sensors for it to work (of course)05:00
Menadwidmann, yes05:00
stdinbeer|drunk: you have to wait, but I just have it run at a certain time every day05:00
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stdinbeer|drunk: so it's already downloaded05:00
Menadwidmann, it was working on edgy !05:00
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beer|drunkcool05:01
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dwidmannMena: might require some re-setting up if you dist-upgraded, maybe (I doubt it though)05:01
stdinbeer|drunk: it's all command line tho, don't know if that bothers you or not05:01
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Menadwidmann, what if i remove it and install again does tat would help05:02
infantahello05:02
dwidmanncould05:02
dwidmann(I make no promises Mena)05:02
dwidmannhi05:02
Menadwidmann, ok and i have a clean installtion05:02
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infantacan anyone tell me where to download the latest version of Kubuntu? iam a novice05:03
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dwidmanninfanta: http://www.kubuntu.org/download05:03
dwidmannI thin05:03
dwidmannk05:03
tonyyarussoJucato: more like this morning05:03
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beer|drunkstdin: not really... just never used it before05:03
Jucatotonyyarusso: oh I have my timezones wrong again :)05:04
infantathanx dwidmann.. more power05:04
Jucatohm... novice... reminds me of Ragnarok Online... :/05:04
Jucato!download | infanta05:04
dwidmannwait, http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:04
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Jucatohm.. ubotu's lagging...05:04
dwidmannJucato: what else is new?05:04
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Jucato:)05:04
stdinbeer|drunk: it's quite simple, and I just set a cron job for it to check/download daily05:04
beer|drunki will have to look it up05:05
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stdinbeer|drunk: it's in universe anyway05:06
MenaThanks >>>bye05:06
vecinaWhy cant anyone help me05:06
vecina:/05:06
dwidmannvecina: where's your question?05:07
Jucato1. you haven't asked your question. 2. if you did, we didn't see it05:07
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vecinadwidmann: On forums, and here in the chat room for time to time for the last week...05:07
hephaestus_how can i setup the keyboard model on netbeans?05:07
dwidmannJucato: it wasn't asked within the last 2-3 hours05:07
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vecinaI want to know why i have to reinstall dbus, hal and pal about every time i log on, or else everything messes up :)05:07
dwidmannctrl + f doesn't lie :P05:07
Jucatodwidmann: I did a quick search and realized that :)05:07
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vecinafor example, dbus has to be reinstalled or i have no automount, and if i dont reinstall hal, nexuiz and other graphic-iintensive programs crash my computer05:08
dwidmannvecina: I've no idea05:08
BluesKajis there an alternative to azureus and ktorrent ...ktorrent keeps crashing an azureus is a hawg ... any suggestions ?05:08
vecinaNobody does05:08
vecinadwidmann: I seem to be the only person with this issue05:08
dwidmannvecina: did you have this problem in earlier versions of ubuntu?05:09
Jucatovery strange indeed05:09
stdin!torrent05:09
vecinadwidmann: No but this is a new computer....05:09
Jucatovecina: have you checked if a bug has been reported about it?05:09
stdindamn ubotu :p05:09
Jucatostdin: still on coffee break :)05:09
BluesKaj!bitorrent05:09
dwidmannvecina: it's worth a shot, see if the problem is present with something like Kubuntu Edgy, or Debian Etch05:09
vecinaJucato: i looked around, didnt see anything close to it. Except one guy had his dbus borked, but he reinstalled and that just fixed it05:09
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vecinaMy dbus gets borked a lot05:10
vecinaI also notice a lot of error messages when i log off... are those in a log file?05:10
stdinBluesKaj: just search adept for bittorrent, there are some alternatives. like qtorrent05:10
dwidmanncould be, depends which programs spitting out the errors05:10
vecinadwidmann: Its complaining about my "hald"05:11
vecinahardware abstraction layer daeomn05:11
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BluesKajyes stdin thx , I'm in the process05:11
dwidmannvecina: did the live/install cd give you any trouble like that?05:11
vecinaThe worst thing is that sometimes when i press control-alt-backspace, the framebuffer kicks in. Im on a Radeon x700, so of course framebuffer means my monitor loses connection. :(05:11
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vecinadwidmann: Well the live cd wouldnt load up because of frame buffer, i had to do a text install05:12
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dwidmannvecina: ah. I still think trying with something that uses a different version of dbus/hal/linux-kernel might be worth a try05:13
vecinaWhy is it so hard to get a stable operating system on a SATA harddrive, AMD64, ATI Radeon x700 computer.....05:13
vecinadwidmann:Huh? like what?05:13
dwidmannvecina: kubuntu edgy, debian etch, etc05:14
vecina:( Edgy's packages are deprecated05:14
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dwidmannvecina: etch's aren't05:16
Jucatowell... they are a bit... but sid's definitely aren't...05:16
vecinadwidmann: Ive never used anything but kubuntu05:16
dwidmannJucato: sid doesn't know how to be deprecated05:16
vecinadwidmann: and windoze05:16
dwidmannvecina: debian is what kubuntu is based on05:17
Jucato(old joke: Ubuntu is an African word for "can't install Debian")05:17
vecinadwidmann: *sigh* Do i really have to go through the trouble of learning a new environment just so i can get back to having a stable desktop?05:17
dwidmannvecina: It's really not going to be all that different05:18
ubotuinfanta: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php05:18
tinwhat do you mean edgy's packages are deprecated?05:18
dwidmannKubuntu is *heavily* based on Debian05:18
vecinadwidmann: I guess... i wish there was another solution05:18
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bitorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
Jucatovecina: since you've been asking already, I think it wouldn't hurt if you asked in #ubuntu-devel (not really sure how they'll take it though.. might forward you to #ubuntu )05:18
tini installed ubuntu edgy a couple days ago and it got all the updates05:18
stdinooh it's awake05:18
tinbefore i did the system upgrade to feisty05:19
jjj__whats the advantage of debian over gentoo and fedora and others?05:19
vecinatin: for example, edgy's Blender package is one version old05:19
jjj__:-)05:19
vecinaJucato: #ubuntu-devel?05:19
Jucatovecina: you have to take release schedules into account05:19
tinvecina: do you NEED blender 2.43 instead of 2.42?05:19
Jucatovecina: or #ubuntu take your pick05:19
Jucatodwidmann: it's not that *heavily* based on Debian though...05:19
tinif so, just get it from blender3d.org05:19
vecinatin: I like the sculpting tool. Plus you need the new version of Wesnoth to play it online05:20
tinyou could always add fiesty's repos if you needed too i think05:20
vecinatin: Point is, you cant stay up to date without recompiling and such.05:20
tinvecina: stable > up to date05:20
dwidmannJucato: certainly looks like it is to me05:20
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Jucatovecina: though you don't need to compile blender at all05:21
vecinatin: I suppose... :/05:21
tinmy server is running freebsd 5.405:21
tinit's not "up to date" per se, but it's bedrock stable05:21
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dwidmannsame core packages for the most part, debian forces you to for the most part build up from scratch, kubuntu just gives a set of defaults, all  of which (give or take) can be found in debian's repos.05:21
tini even looked up some info on upgrading to 6.x, but decided to wait anyway05:22
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vecinai like the simplicity of sudo aptitude install (program), bam, i have the newest version.05:22
vecinaits even in my start menu all nice and neat05:22
tinFreeBSD joker.tin.hopto.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May  8 10:21:06 UTC 200505:23
tini guess non of the security errata affected it, that's the first and only kernel (and world) i've built in two years05:24
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tinvecina: it is, and i'm glad fiesty handles my hardware (almost) perfectly05:24
tinbut fiesty IS brandy new05:25
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vecinai know :/ but i dont think this problem is normal05:25
tinmy only problem is that blender doesn't display correctly05:25
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riricohello05:26
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riricoanyone can tell me how can i get dc++ or revconnect for kubuntu?05:26
vecinaeven worse, my windows installation is actually more stable. That hurts my head.05:27
vecinaof course, its got spyware all over it...05:27
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dwidmannririco: I wonder if the "dcgui" packe would be it05:29
riricothanx dwidmann05:29
lontradoes azureus work too?05:29
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intelikeyi've got an odd sort of "how did it do that" kind of thing going on.   on shutdown/reboot the root fs is not getting remounted,ro  but on startup it's testing as clean      ???05:31
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intelikeyare ext3 fs's always marked as clean ?05:31
stdinno05:32
stdinnot always05:32
trix`Gumm... what is the default root password for kubuntu?05:32
intelikeynone05:32
stdin!root | trix`G05:32
ubotutrix`G: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:32
dwidmannby default the root account is locked05:32
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trix`Gubotu: I know.05:32
intelikeyby default there is no root password05:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i know. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
trix`Goh that's a bot lol05:32
Jucatodwidmann: nothing is "by default" when it comes to intelikey.... you should know that by now :)05:33
trix`Gthen how can I unlock it so I can log into root normally?05:33
stdintrix`G: read the link05:33
intelikeyJucato05:33
stdintrix`G: it tells you how05:33
Jucatohi intelikey :)05:33
trix`Gstdin: thanks!05:33
intelikeyoh that wasn't a slam then ?05:33
stdintrix`G: tho I don't know why you'll need a root account enabled05:33
lontrais there a way to make konqueror look like it does by default without the kubuntu fixes?05:33
intelikeyor are you just grinning about slamin' me ?05:34
lontrai.e. the default konqueror profile05:34
Jucatointelikey: wasn't a slam05:34
Jucatolontra: try this http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html05:34
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Jucatointelikey: likewise :)05:34
intelikey:)05:34
intelikeyJucato any thoughts on this fs question ?05:35
Jucatonope... I rarely touch fs related stuff... :(05:35
intelikeyk05:35
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intelikeyi'll leave the networking stuff for you then.   :)05:35
Jucatohehe05:36
stdinintelikey: so when the system is halted or restarted the rootfs is mounted ro?05:36
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intelikeystdin no.     i mean yes initialy it is but the startup scripts do the fs check and / says clean so it's remounted rw     but on shutdown i'm seeing an error root fs is busy and can't be remounted ro    so it's shouldn't be clean on startup.05:37
stdinhmm05:38
intelikey"it's shouldn't"   hehhe syntax error05:38
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jhutchinsYou haave at least one system file that is hanging open.05:39
stdinmaybe something has a file open (eg log files) and so it can't be unmounted05:39
stdinso then it's mounted ro05:39
stdinto prevent further writing05:40
intelikeyjhutchins yeah something like that.05:40
intelikeystdin you can never umount /05:40
stdinI see it sometimes on one of my PCs sometimes, but not every time05:40
intelikeyonly remount ro05:40
stdinintelikey: it does at reboot, when it tries to unmount everything05:40
intelikeyhave to kill init to umount /05:40
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stdinexactly05:41
intelikeycan't kill init or kernel panics05:41
jagerprojectm rules my face05:41
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jageromg yes05:41
jagerapropos of nothing i guess05:41
hsystem-x!bad errors05:41
hsystem-x!bad05:42
hsystem-x!error05:42
stdinhsystem-x: just ask the question05:42
hsystem-xjust want to see the instructions to eliminate those bad errors table in xorg05:43
intelikeynet split ?    or just bot dropped out....05:43
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Jucato!baddevice05:44
intelikeyi can still see the startup messages       * checking the root file system....05:44
intelikey /dev/root: clean, 26473/529056 files, 136748/1056265 blocks05:44
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intelikey[ ok ] 05:44
stdinhsystem-x: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:45
stdinintelikey: force a check if you want05:45
intelikeymade the last process before the power off call do a touch /unclean       and   ls /05:46
intelikeyUNCLEAN  boot  etc05:46
intelikeythere it is... so it wasn't ro at power off.05:46
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intelikeyi'm just trying ot figure out how it's doing this....   i'll fix it after i figure out exactly what is happening.05:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bad errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)05:51
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:51
intelikeywow talk about lag....05:52
Jucato:)05:52
stdinonly 10 mins this time05:52
Sleepy_Coderlol05:52
hsystem-xlol05:52
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hsystem-xUh i got a question, what is the name of this aplication that usually we use to kill apps, just clicking on the app.05:53
intelikeyhere are the last two things that run  http://pastebin.ca/466840 <<<  on a reboot.    and the  touch command is making the file so it's not ro....    why is it showing as clean on the fs check at startup ?05:53
hsystem-xkill what?05:53
stdinhsystem-x: xkill?05:54
hsystem-xyeah maybe that, let me see.05:54
intelikeyxkill05:54
hsystem-xit is, thank you.05:54
Jucatohsystem-x: or Ctrl+Alt+Esc (in KDE only)05:54
intelikeypoisons your mouse cursor so you can kill with a click05:54
Jucatoor rather enchants your mouse cursor with poison :)05:55
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intelikey"same diff"   ;p05:55
hitmanWillymouse of killing+1 :)05:55
Jucatopatch -p0 < diff?05:55
Jucatoyou got it hitmanWilly :D05:56
intelikeydeath mouse -905:56
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Jucato:)05:57
stdinintelikey: pastebin.ca is lagging worse that ubotu05:57
intelikeythen it's the whole internet.....   i think there is a squerm or something hitting the M$ side of things........05:58
intelikeythose wormy servers.......05:58
hitmanWillyyoutube seems fine...05:59
intelikeypastebin.ca was fine for me...05:59
intelikey!botsnack05:59
ubotuYum!05:59
intelikeyand ubotu's ok now.05:59
stdinnot here (UK)06:00
intelikeychanged isp's last week,  the new one has been down 4 of the last 7 days....    i think the change was a bad idea....06:01
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hsystem-xdamn... i can't fix the bad device errors, X crash...06:03
hsystem-xand i just commented the 3 tables06:04
hsystem-xof wascom or wacom, whatever.06:04
stdinhsystem-x: and the ones in the "Section "ServerLayout"" ?06:04
intelikeyhsystem-x and the three referances to them later on ?06:04
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hsystem-xlet me see.06:04
flaccid0squite annoying hey06:04
intelikeyflaccid0s  http://pastebin.ca/466840    how can / be clean on startup if it's making /UNCLEAN at shutdown ?06:06
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hsystem-xSection "ServerLayout"06:06
hsystem-xIdentifier"Default Layout"06:06
hsystem-xScreen"Default Screen"06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice"Generic Keyboard"06:06
stdin!paste06:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice"Configured Mouse"06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice     "stylus""SendCoreEvents"06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice     "cursor""SendCoreEvents"06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice     "eraser""SendCoreEvents"06:06
hsystem-xInputDevice"Synaptics Touchpad"06:06
hsystem-xEndSection06:06
hsystem-xwhat reference on server layout?06:06
intelikey<hsystem-x>     InputDevice     "stylus"        "SendCoreEvents"06:06
intelikey<hsystem-x>     InputDevice     "cursor"        "SendCoreEvents"06:06
intelikey<hsystem-x>     InputDevice     "eraser"        "SendCoreEvents"06:06
souzaboa noite06:07
flaccid0shsystem-x: stop it!!!06:07
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flaccid0sdunno intelikey06:08
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Aloneaanyone ever installed ie6 on wine? I can't seem to get it to install.06:09
intelikeyflaccid0s yeah me too.   i'm buffalo'd06:09
intelikey!wine06:09
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:09
intelikeysee the link06:09
stdinAlonea: ask in #winehq too, they are the experts06:09
jarnhttp://worldrc.wadsworth.com/06:10
intelikeyalso see winehq.org and check the list of things that "will not run" in wine06:10
stdinjarn: ??06:11
Aloneaintelikey: its supposed to run, but I am wondering if this is an ubuntu thing.06:11
jarnEr.06:11
jarnUm.06:11
jarnI thought I copied something else, apparently not.06:11
AloneaI need it so I can try to install another problem that requires ie06:11
jarnWhat's the best program for managing ID3 tags?06:11
jarnThat's what I thought I had copied.06:11
jarnstdin: My bad.06:11
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stdinjarn: I've heard good things about easytag06:12
jarnstdin: Okay, thanks, I'll take a look.06:12
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jarnstdin: I use a great program in Windows called mp3tag, I haven't found anything to rival it yet.06:13
stdinmaybe it will run under wine :p06:13
flaccid0samarok :)06:13
hsystem-xThanks. Finaly fixed the bad device erros.06:13
stdinyeah, amarok will do it06:13
hsystem-xerrors*06:14
stdinhsystem-x: it's one of the 1st things I do after an install06:14
flaccid0samarok is good at it06:15
hsystem-xjeje, those errors are very annoying ...06:15
jarnstdin: It probably will, but I want a native Linux app.06:15
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jarnflaccid0s: I find Amarok isn't as good at managing ID3 tags as I would like.06:15
flaccid0sstdin: it is native? define native in this case?06:16
flaccid0sjarn: oh well06:16
flaccid0si mean jarn not stdin06:16
jarnflaccid0s: I was talking about running mp3tag in wine when I said it's not native, not Amarok.06:16
flaccid0sgo look for something else... http://google.com06:16
flaccid0soh06:17
flaccid0sok06:17
intelikeya native linux app ?????    hmmm   modprobe maybe ?    not sure it's even native to the kernel....06:17
stdin /mode #kubuntu -pedantic06:18
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stdin(worth a shot)06:18
intelikeylol06:18
hsystem-xwhich messenger client, does you people use? kopete gaim amsn?06:18
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intelikeynow that was a slam.....06:18
flaccid0syeah this is kubuntu support, not i need a program for my mp3 tags..06:18
intelikey:)06:18
flaccid0skopete06:18
tonyyarussogaim here hyper_ch06:18
HymnToLifekopete here06:19
tonyyarussogaim here hsystem-x, rather06:19
easytigeri just need to say someting06:19
easytiger09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C006:19
intelikeyglad you got that out of your system easytiger06:19
easytigerout of my system and into the logs06:19
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intelikeyyeah now go play06:20
jarneasytiger: What was the point of that? There's no need to put it in the logs.06:20
flaccid0sat least you aint working on a monster php web app that doesn't have a template engine06:20
HymnToLifemaybe to search for it later ?06:20
jarnflaccid0s: Isn't an inherent part of Kubuntu support helping people convert from Windows to Linux?06:20
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HymnToLifejarn, no, it's to help people with Kubuntu06:21
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flaccid0sjarn: where does it say that?06:21
HymnToLifeWindows has nothing to do with anything06:21
flaccid0sthats conversion, not support06:21
flaccid0s/j #kubuntu-conversion06:21
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marconioi06:22
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intelikeyjarn  ubuntu (linux in general) is software. not a religion.06:22
HymnToLifeflaccid0s, this channel is supposed to be for support only, conversation goes in -offtopic06:22
jarnintelikey: When did I say something was a religion?06:22
flaccid0sHy\06:22
intelikeydid i just say that  ??????06:22
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flaccid0sHymnToLife: it was a joke.... such a channel doesnt' even exist..06:22
marconiwhat is your name?06:22
intelikeynever mind, i reacnt.06:22
jarnintelikey: What I meant was that should not support help people get Kubuntu set up correctly? If it can help people set up programs to play MP3s why not programs for people to edit MP3s?06:22
flaccid0si know what this channel is for. i help people here many hours a day06:22
jarnintelikey: Where do you draw the line?06:23
marconibrazil06:23
flaccid0swhere we say the line ends?06:23
hsystem-xis there a channel of kubuntu for programmers, i mean developers?06:23
marconiand you?06:23
stdinhsystem-x: the #kubuntu-devel channel06:24
Tm_Thsystem-x: #kubuntu-devel is for kubuntu devel discussion06:24
HymnToLifehsystem-x, should be #kubuntu-devs or something06:24
intelikeyjarn where i draw the line, is at propritary krap.   i don't do windows.   good bad or indifferent.06:24
HymnToLifeoh, never mind06:24
Tm_Tintelikey: whatever pleases you06:24
jarnintelikey: Did I ask anything about Windows? No. I asked what a good program was to edit ID3 takes and specifically wanted one for Linux when someone asked if I could not use Wine for one that I like.06:25
Tm_Tintelikey: I take it case by case, mostly it's just another (worse) option06:25
jarnintelikey: And Windows is just software, not a pagan religion.06:25
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intelikeyTm_T sure.   hey want to look at this pastebin and see if you can see how my root fs can be rw at power off but clean at startup   http://pastebin.ca/46684006:26
marconiI am from brazil06:26
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intelikeyTm_T the /UNCLEAN file is there when i power on.   but the fsck says clean and doesnt replay the journal or nothin06:28
Tm_Twell, I have no idea06:28
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jarnintelikey: Were you the guy that was trying to upgrade your comp straight from hoary to feisty a few weeks ago?06:31
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intelikeyjarn started to yes.   decided to abort because vanity was the only reason for doing it anyway06:32
jarnintelikey: So are you still at Hoary? Or are you at some horrible fusion of Hoary and Feisty? :P06:32
intelikeyno06:32
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jarnintelikey: No? I'm not sure that was a yes or no question.06:34
intelikeymardi that might let the smoke out of those little things on the main board.06:34
flaccid0s!hoary06:35
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"06:35
intelikeyjarn you gave options,  none fit,  so the answer is no.06:35
flaccid0sah ok06:35
jarnintelikey: Wouldn't the answer be "neither"?06:35
intelikeyindeed06:35
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c1|freaky:D06:38
c1|freakyi love kubuntu :D06:38
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intelikeyi've added a killall5 in the umountrootfs script i'll see if that helps.06:40
hsystem-xbetter compiz or beryl?06:40
flaccid0si love it when it works :)06:40
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intelikey!beryl06:40
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:40
intelikey!compiz06:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:41
hsystem-xok, but im asking for your opinions (experience) about those 2.06:41
intelikeynot mine you're not.  i have none.06:42
flaccid0s#ubuntu-effects for all that convo06:42
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intelikeyor part of one.06:52
hitmanWillymmmmmmmmmm.......cow.......06:53
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intelikeywell that was a lot of beef....   i wish jucato had the other half of that steak....06:57
intelikeyshame we can't dcc send things like that.....06:58
flaccid0swhat about me?06:59
intelikeygendi can get you come coffee   ?06:59
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Jucatothanks for the beef... I guess I'll ask *genii* for some tea...07:00
Jucatoflaccid0s: if your nick means you're using MS-DOS, then you don't deserve any :P07:00
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intelikeylol07:00
flaccid0shahahaha07:00
intelikey##plesk #plesk ##opera #pcbsd    mmmmmmm07:01
flaccid0snah im just in a hispanic mood :p07:01
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flaccid0smmm?07:01
Jucatoeeek #opera... you definitely don't deserve any beef :P07:01
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flaccidhaha07:01
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flaccidit eats other browsers for breakfast and still remains at ~5MB07:01
Jucatohm... maybe it's time I took that pc-bsd I got for free out of the shelf...07:01
flaccidno wonder they don't release the source code...07:02
intelikeybeets bloat-zilla07:02
AussieHatterI cannot umount my ipod,  /dev/sdc2, it tells me /media/ipod is busy though its not.  nothing is opened, no terminal window, no gui, any ideas ?07:02
Aloneaanyone have any luck in either getting IE 5 or 6 installed in wine or at least making it so if you were to install another program that looks for IE that it thinks its their? Its mentioned in the Useful registry keys and mentions how you might need dlls, but not which dlls.07:03
intelikeyAussieHatter is there an icon on the desktop for it ?07:03
JucatoAlonea: tried ies4linux?07:03
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JucatoAlonea: http://www.tatanka.com.br/07:03
AussieHatterintelikey: no, the dvd drive icon is on the desktop, which has a disk in and is mounted but thats it07:04
AloneaJucato: I don't need the browser to work, and I do have ies4linux, I just need it so I can try installing Musicmatch, which looks to see if IE is installed or no07:04
AloneaJucato: trying to install Musicmatch in wine.07:04
flaccidah07:04
Jucatooh ok...07:04
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flaccidits a question of how it checks07:04
intelikeyAussieHatter try ejecting it.07:05
AloneaJucato:  http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys, look near the bottom at the top of the HKLM section and see where it talks about making an app believe its installed?07:05
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EtokuraWhy Musicmatch?07:06
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tititminican you help me guys07:06
tititminipleaseeee....07:06
erikja!nvidia07:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
flaccid!ask07:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:06
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tititminimy amarok cant play mp3 files....07:07
tititminiwhat should i do07:07
intelikeyhave you been to the wiki's ?07:08
intelikey!mp3 | tititmini07:08
ubotutititmini: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:08
tititminiyup07:08
tititminithey told me to download a plugins07:08
Etokurasudo apt-get install easyubuntu07:08
Tm_TEtokura:07:08
EtokuraHm?07:08
flaccidand..?07:09
Jucato!easyubuntu07:09
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:09
Tm_TEtokura:07:09
AussieHatterintelikey: cd is unmounted and eject, still kubuntu thinks /dev/sdc2 is busy07:09
intelikeyAussieHatter no i meand try ejecting the device07:09
intelikeyAussieHatter   sudo eject /dev/sdc207:09
Jucatotititmini: install the package named "libxine-extracodecs"07:10
intelikeys/meand/meant/07:10
AloneaEtokura: On Demand service. Dad pays for it and I really enjoy it. listen to any song you want in any order, as many times are you want, at cd quality, no commercials or nothing.07:10
AussieHatterintelikey: same thing, umount: /media/ipod: device is busy07:10
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EtokuraHuh?07:10
intelikeyAussieHatter ok  sudo fuser -vki /media/ipod07:11
EtokuraOh07:11
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AloneaEtokura: didn't see your message at first because you didn't use my name. I have so many tabs that I usually don't look at things that dont have the name in it.07:12
intelikeyjust another vote against automatic krap07:12
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AussieHatterintelikey: that did it.07:13
intelikeywhat was using it AussieHatter ?07:13
AussieHatterintelikey: so for some reason a terminal was attached to the mounted device ?07:13
AussieHatterintelikey: two terminals weer open07:14
AussieHatterwhich were both in the /  directory07:14
intelikeyif you open a terminal and cd into a mountpoint the device is then busy for the duration of your stay07:14
hitmanWillybrb07:14
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AussieHatterintelikey: i know, but only if you are in the mounted directory07:15
AussieHatterthey both were not in the mounted directory07:15
flaccidnot when you can't get rid of locks. use umount -l07:15
flaccidnot=note07:15
intelikeyAussieHatter version ?07:15
AussieHatterkubuntu feisty fawn07:15
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intelikeymost probably something they have changed in the terminal emulator07:16
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AussieHatterintelikey: its the standard one in utilites -> terminal07:16
intelikeyAussieHatter every time people say things like " but why doesn't it do that for me "   brand new sets of problems are intorduced as a result...07:17
AussieHatterintelikey: how can i get a normal bash shell in kubuntu ?07:18
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intelikeyctrl+alt+f107:18
AussieHatteromg.07:18
AussieHatteryou might have said that drops me out of the kde :)07:18
intelikeyAussieHatter alt+f7  back to the gui07:18
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AussieHatterah07:19
AussieHatterthx07:19
intelikey:)07:19
flaccidbash is default shell07:19
flaccidor type bash07:19
intelikeytype bash ?07:19
intelikeytype bash07:19
intelikeybash is /bin/bash07:19
AussieHatterflaccid: you are right, the terminal and the shell are different07:19
flaccidyeah which is in path07:19
AussieHatteri was calling the terminal the shell07:19
flaccidah you want tty not pts07:20
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AussieHatterso maybe i dont use the terminal supplied with kde07:20
flaccidkde doesn't have a term. it has terminal emulator(s)07:20
Sleepy_CoderEr....I don't think that has much to do with it. :)07:20
intelikeyAussieHatter you can install other terminal emulators like     rxvt   xterm  aterm  eterm ....07:20
flaccidi just use xterm, yakuake and konsole emulators07:21
intelikeythe list is long.   but the point is that   rxvt "should" not be affected by the new changes.07:21
AussieHatteri suppose there is a kde setting as to which terminal to use ?07:21
flaccidyou mean emulator07:21
AussieHatterright.07:22
JucatoSystem Settings -> Default Applications -> Terminal Emulator07:22
intelikeyi suppose.   i don't use a gui enough to keep up with that sort of thing.07:22
AussieHatterthe default one is konsole07:22
flaccidtry yakauke for fun. its a konsole in quake style drop down thing07:23
flaccid!info yakuake07:23
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB07:23
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AussieHatteractually, help says its the gnome terminal 2.18.007:23
flaccidyuck :p07:23
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flaccidi gtg home07:24
flaccidbbs07:24
intelikeyAussieHatter and BTW  that console you were in.  (crtl+alt+f1) there are six with getty running on them by default and you can open literally hundreds.   alt+f[0-2] [0-9] 07:24
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intelikeyi think the default limit is 256.  but that can be raised.07:25
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intelikeyalt+left/right-arrow  for stepping through them...07:26
AussieHatterintelikey: right, thx, i forget about them when in the GUI07:26
intelikeyand     openvt -fsc #07:26
EtokuraIs there a command to have your password shown to you in a terminal?07:27
intelikeyEtokura no07:27
EtokuraAgh07:27
intelikeyEtokura you can change it there.07:27
intelikeyif you know it.07:27
intelikeypasswd07:27
EtokuraThat's the thing, I accidentally changed it to a typo'd version of what I needed07:28
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intelikeyand can't sudo -i07:28
intelikeyif you can gain root access   you can    passwd username07:28
intelikeyor should i say   passwd <username>07:29
EtokuraAh ok07:29
intelikeybut if you can't access root  you're in for a reboot to bash init07:29
intelikeythis thing would reboot really fast if it didn't have to reset the scsi bus twice...07:31
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AussieHattergtkpod will not delete from my ipod, it seems because it does not sudo before rm any ideas ?07:32
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EtokuraEr07:34
EtokuraI have to log in to create a user07:34
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intelikeythat did it.   adding an killall5 prior to the remount fixed it.07:35
intelikeyi could cut the boot time by about half by building a new kernel.07:36
intelikeyAussieHatter did anyone answer you while i was gone ?07:37
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AussieHatterit seems rhythmbox will work with the ipod07:43
AussieHatterdamn.  now the whole system just froze.07:43
intelikeythat's ugly.07:43
AussieHatterfor the 3rd time in a week.  any clues on how to find out what program crashed ?07:43
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AussieHatterctl alt f1. wont work07:44
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[_uplink_] HELLO07:44
AussieHattercntl alt backspace. nope07:44
AussieHatterfrozen.07:44
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intelikey runners    http://pastebin.ca/466931    ! spinners07:44
intelikeyAussieHatter alt+sysRQ+E07:44
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AussieHatterintelikey: nothing07:45
intelikeyAussieHatter if magic sysRQ can't help then it's toast     or that's been my luck anyway07:45
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AussieHattertoast.07:46
AussieHatterhopefully mounted ipod is fine.07:46
AussieHattergrrrr07:46
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intelikeyAussieHatter yeah hopefully.     after the reboot.  look in the logs.07:46
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intelikeynot any real hope of finding an error message saying  "kernel message: i can't write to the hd now.... and i'm paniced..."   cause,  ah it can't write....07:48
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AussieHatterintelikey: the box is still up07:48
AussieHatterintelikey: i can ping it07:48
AussieHatterthough i havent enabled ssh server on it, so i cant get in07:48
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intelikeyAussieHatter really?    you can ping it but keyboard has no response.07:49
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intelikeythen there may be something in the logs07:49
AussieHatterintelikey: yes07:50
AussieHattermouse disappeared07:50
EtokuraWow.. This phone has great speakers07:50
intelikeymore than one ?07:50
EtokuraTwo07:50
EtokuraThe sound is very crisp07:50
intelikeycandy07:51
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EtokuraAnd with expandable memory via microSD, it could be an mp3-player replacement07:51
EtokuraI just need a 2.5mm - 3.5mm adapter jack07:51
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intelikeywill it do ogg vorbis?  if not just keep it.07:52
EtokuraYeah07:53
EtokuraIf you believe07:53
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AussieHatterthe last thing in syslog is network manager: updating allowed wireless network lists07:55
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intelikeyi have put several casetes on cd    things from "back in the day"  that are worth keeping,   one cd can hold a ton of .ogg's  like 8 or 9 hours per cd   and good quality07:55
AussieHatteroops, no that was safter reboot07:55
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EtokuraOoh07:56
EtokuraI would use ogg but I'm not sure if this phone supports it07:56
EtokuraI should check07:56
intelikeyyou should check07:57
EtokuraI just finished remixing a song to make it suitible for use as a ringtone07:57
intelikeydid i mention   http://pastebin.ca/466931 ?07:58
intelikeyyeah i did.  sorry.07:58
EtokuraWhat does it do?07:58
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intelikeyreplaces spinners07:59
EtokuraWhat are spinners?07:59
intelikeyin place of   \ | / -   in one spot you get a runner going back and forth   ----!07:59
intelikey   !-----08:00
intelikeyit's a "do nothing"  ever seen one before ?08:00
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EtokuraInteresting08:01
jujimufuI liked spinners08:01
intelikeyyeah.  but not for a network connection.  runners are more believable there08:02
jujimufuindeed08:02
intelikeyany way just thought i'd share it,    didn't want to keep it all to my self08:03
jujimufulol :P08:03
intelikey:)08:03
jujimufuthanks for sharing, then :D08:03
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Aloneaoh! I forgot to say that in Fiesty, the problem with my computer not shutting down due to fglrx thing for ati cards is no longer happening! I can actually shut down normally now, though sometimes it shutsdown a bit on the slow side.08:04
korobaseI want to install a cvs server in my computer.Which package was what I need?08:05
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intelikeyAlonea idk.  maybe   cvsd - chroot wrapper to run `cvs pserver' more securely08:07
epimethgooood morning :-)08:07
intelikeysorry.  ! Alonea      korobase ^08:07
intelikeyepimeth08:07
Aloneaintelikey: ^__^08:07
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Aloneaepimeth: morning. tis night for me...08:08
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epimethAlonea: sorry to hear that....08:08
epimeth:-)08:08
intelikeyyes be night is light no?08:08
underdog5004wow... www.digg.com has been taken down...all this in response to a rash of articles regarding the HD-DVD decryption key!08:08
intelikeyunderdog5004 ?08:09
intelikeyyou jest ?08:09
underdog5004check it08:09
dwbellno jest08:09
underdog5004people just kept posting the HD-DVD decryption key, and basically making a fuss, and they shut it down (temporarily?)08:10
underdog5004of course the HD-DVD/AACS people are big sponsors of digg, so...08:10
epimethso here's a question... I installed beryl yesterday.... everything was fine.  I booted up the comp just now and noticed 2 problems:08:10
underdog5004on another not, I really like vim08:10
underdog5004epimeth, no window decorations?08:10
epimethlol yes08:11
kristjan_underdog5004: I don't see where notice about hd-dvd being the reason for shut down08:11
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epimeththat and my system tray has one row of icons instead of 208:11
underdog5004kristjan_, trust me, that's what it was08:11
underdog5004kristjan_, there were articles popping up faster than the admins could delete them...the whole front page was filled with articles about the key08:11
os2mac!java08:11
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:11
underdog5004epimeth, h/o, lemme grab the url for the fix08:12
intelikeysystem tray.    heh      icons  hah   :)08:12
underdog5004epimeth, you're on edgy, yeah?08:12
epimethso I started beryl manager and the window decorations are showing up now, but not on the windows that were open08:12
epimethno, feisty08:12
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epimethlike konversation :-)08:12
underdog5004epimeth, oh...nvm...I haven't had good luck w/ feisty and beryl...I upgraded then downgraded back to edgy08:13
underdog5004lol08:13
epimethheh08:13
Aloneaepimeth: heh. well, at least I get to sleep soon. Sleep is gooooood.08:13
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epimethactually, the decorations *are* there, I just can't get to it cuz its over the top of the screen!08:13
EtokuraI've noticed some odd things about beryl and feisty08:13
epimethgrrrr08:13
intelikeynalioth comming or going ?08:13
EtokuraNow I can only preview music in LimeWire while beryl is running08:14
epimethso I guess the question is how do I get beryl manager to run on startup?08:14
EtokuraAnd some tooltips don't show unless beryl is running08:14
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Etokuraepimeth I don't think there is a great way08:14
josh_can someone help me with grub boot loader?08:14
dwbelljosh_: we can try08:15
intelikeyjosh_ sure08:15
se7en_somebody know how i can get amarok to work i get     amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:15
epimethokay, so how do I make KDE my default window manager... I'll just manually load beryl later08:15
Etokuraou need to download libgl08:15
underdog5004josh_, what's the problem?08:15
EtokuraYou08:15
intelikey!grub | josh_08:15
ubotujosh_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:15
underdog5004epimeth, it'll be in the login screen08:15
intelikeywhile you type.....08:15
josh_I have never used linux before.08:16
josh_I installed ubuntu feisty faun and it has made it so that I can not log into windows anymore.08:16
josh_I can repair it myself if I can get a boot cd to load08:16
josh_but grub loads too fast08:16
josh_even if I tell the bios not to boot from hard drive.08:16
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josh_grub always takes control.08:16
underdog5004click on "options" and select default session -> KE08:16
underdog5004er....KDE08:16
josh_is there a way to make a cd a boot option?08:16
se7en_Etokura: that was the first thing i tryed08:16
se7en_sudo apt-get install libgl08:16
se7en_Reading package lists... Done08:16
se7en_Building dependency tree08:16
se7en_Reading state information... Done08:16
se7en_E: Couldn't find package libgl08:16
EtokuraWhile the grub loads hit ESC08:16
epimethI was thinking more along the lines of through the conf files?08:16
Etokurasudo apt-get install libGL.so08:16
underdog5004!pastebin | se7en_08:17
ubotuse7en_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:17
josh_what will esc do?08:17
josh_stop it?08:17
underdog5004josh_, let you look at the boot options08:17
EtokuraGo into the index of bottable kernels and OSes08:17
EtokuraBootable08:17
josh_and what boot option am I looking for?08:17
josh_Cd?08:17
EtokuraSo you can select Windows from the list08:17
josh_windows gives me and error about hal.dll08:17
josh_the only fix I can find is recovery from the cd.08:18
intelikeyjosh_ i don't think you can boot a cd from a standard grub prompt.08:18
EtokuraWhen it says something like "Grub loading: Press ESC for options" Press escape08:18
josh_it gives me a list but I have several partitions.08:18
EtokuraThere you should find windows in the list08:18
underdog5004josh_, to make it boot from a cd, you'll need to make sure your bios is configured to do that08:18
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josh_my bios says boot from cd first.08:18
underdog5004josh_, are you trying to boot from the windows cd?08:19
josh_i removed hard drive from boot options but grub still loads08:19
epimethjosh_: then the cd isn't bootable :-)08:19
josh_the cd says that it is booting08:19
josh_then grub loads08:19
josh_i just need to slow grub down by like 30 seconds08:19
EtokuraYou can change the countdown if that's what you want08:19
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intelikeyyou are talking about bios  not grub08:20
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josh_its like the cd cant load fast enough08:20
josh_it is spinning and saying it is loading.08:20
intelikeythat's bios issue  not grub08:20
epimethyup08:20
josh_why does grub load when bios says not to boot from hard drive at all08:20
EtokuraWhat cd?08:20
intelikeythat's a bios issue not grub08:20
josh_win xp profesional08:20
josh_ok.08:20
underdog5004josh_, if it's a windows disc, you need to hit any key to boot from the cd when you're given the prompt08:20
josh_it does not get that far.08:21
epimethbecause the bios is loading the HD anyway... grub is on the HD, it can't affect the bios08:21
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josh_is their a way to fix the boot.ini and hal.dll file from withing linux.08:21
josh_or its command line08:21
josh_i still want linux.08:21
underdog5004josh_, I doubt it08:21
josh_I just need windows to work too.08:21
underdog5004josh_, maybe copy the recovery ones over the corrupted files08:22
josh_The web says something about chainloading08:22
josh_is that automatic08:22
josh_or is that the problem with the windows not booting.08:22
intelikeyjosh_ might copy over a good copy of the files in question....    i don't know.08:22
josh_i will try that.08:22
underdog5004I know,  somewhere, there's a folder on your hard-drive that stores "vanilla" versions of essential files08:22
josh_i386?08:23
jlillyHaving a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu-restricted-packages, but the java install fails. I run it manually and I get a conflict:  sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed08:23
underdog5004can't remember where, though...try booting into linux and searching for recovery on the windows partition...08:23
intelikeyjosh_ chainloader+1 is a grub opetion it tells grub to turn the boot process over to the next device08:23
josh_ok that makes sense.08:23
josh_it sounded like it had to trick windows into thinking it had the first partition.08:23
josh_grub that is.08:24
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josh_ill come back after I try that.08:24
josh_bye08:25
underdog5004good luck!08:25
intelikeyi have listings in my menu.lst file (grub's rc)   that go to each hd08:25
intelikeytitle MBR (hd2)08:25
intelikey        root    (hd2)08:25
intelikey        chainloader +108:25
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josh_i saw one that shows something like that for a floppy08:25
intelikeyhd's 0-508:25
josh_says windows can be done but did not explain.08:25
josh_windows cd.08:25
josh_it was a listing in the menu.lst08:25
josh_says I cant edit cause im not root.08:26
josh_I have no idea how to switch to root.08:26
intelikeysudo08:26
jujimufujosh_: just write %B sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lt08:26
intelikey!sudo | josh_08:26
ubotujosh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:26
jujimufuah, fail for bold08:26
underdog5004josh_, type in kdesu kate /boot/grub/grub.conf08:26
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intelikey!kdesu | josh_  yes use kdesu for gui08:27
ubotujosh_  yes use kdesu for gui: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:27
underdog5004he he he, command overload08:27
josh_in the places computer command line or an actual command line?08:27
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jujimufujosh: alt+F208:27
underdog5004josh in the command line of the linux distro that you're booting08:27
underdog5004listen to jujimufu08:27
jujimufuoh08:27
josh_terminal?08:28
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underdog5004sure08:28
stephanhello08:28
jujimufujosh_; anywhere where you can type commands08:28
underdog5004hello, stephan08:28
josh_thanks.08:28
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intelikeyjosh_ alt+f2 for kdesu  but use a konsole for  sudo  and cli apps08:28
jujimufuhello stephan :)08:28
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se7en_is there a way to use albumart under linux same as in xp08:28
underdog5004albumart?08:28
josh_says kdesu not installed.08:29
intelikey!wine | se7en_ if it will run there08:29
ubotuse7en_ if it will run there: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:29
jujimufuse7en_, albumart as in, the site albumart?08:29
se7en_thumbnail view album cover underdog500408:29
underdog5004josh_, are you using kubuntu?08:29
josh_yes08:29
josh_ubuntu08:29
josh_feisty faun08:29
underdog5004but kubuntu or ubuntu?08:29
josh_pretty sure ubuntu08:30
intelikeyjosh_ gksudo08:30
jujimufuthat's differen thant kuburoi josh...08:30
underdog5004if it's ubuntu, type in gksu gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf08:30
jujimufu*kubuntu08:30
EtokuraAh that sucks08:30
EtokuraIt doesn't even recognise ogg08:30
jujimufujosh_, then why are you in this channel? This channel is for the KDE-based Ubuntu (i.e. Kubuntu) not the original, GNOME-version of Ubuntu. you should go to #ubuntu for help with that.08:30
EtokuraUsually it'll show it and give an error while playing08:30
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josh_i apologize i did not know.08:31
jujimufuEtokura, what player?08:31
underdog5004josh_, np, we'll still help you08:31
EtokuraMy phone08:31
jujimufujosh_, it's ok. It's just weird that you joined on #kubuntu while your distribution writes "ubuntu".08:31
jujimufuwell, at least I find it weird >_>08:31
intelikeyjosh_ and if the channel is too busy in there  you can ask in here  :)08:31
underdog5004josh_, ever checked out kubuntu?08:31
josh_it asked for a password. after password gave a blank text file.08:31
josh_nope. first linux ever.08:31
underdog5004hmmm08:31
Aloneajujimufu: even though I have kubuntu I still ask in ubuntu. Also, people tend to be more helpful in here anyways as I ahve quickly found.08:31
josh_is it easier.08:32
intelikeyjosh_ no just different.08:32
josh_what is the difference08:32
josh_ohh.08:32
josh_it does not seem hard. just a learning curve.08:32
josh_had windows my whole life.08:32
underdog5004josh_, whoops, the file is menu.lst08:32
Aloneawell, night guys08:32
jujimufuAlonea, yes, but it's more logical to ask for kubuntu help in ubuntu than to ask for ubuntu help in kubuntu. But anyway, the differences are not THAT many between them.08:32
josh_ok.08:32
underdog5004josh_, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:32
jujimufuunderdog5004: yes it is, lol :P08:32
underdog5004lol08:33
intelikeyjosh_ yeah imagine if you had never seen a computer and someone handed you a windows xp disk and a box to put it in.   there you are with linux now.08:33
jujimufujosh_: btw, since this is your first try with linux, you could try kubuntu. It is more user-friendly, in my opinion. On the other hand, it would be good if you got used to linux on gnome, although despite all my experience on linux, I prefer kde.08:33
underdog5004except with all of windows bad habits...lol08:33
Aloneajujimufu: yeah. but I was never really logical. If I ever use gnome, I would probably still end up coming in here for better help factor.08:33
josh_title DOS Boot Disk08:33
josh_map (hd0,0) (hd0,2)08:33
josh_map (hd0,2) (hd0,0)08:33
josh_chainloader (fd0)+108:33
jujimufuAlonea: bah :P08:33
josh_this is what is given to boot from floppy08:33
josh_says If your Windows install CD is bootable, you'll need to have a "Windows boot disk" section which chainloads to whatever your CDROM device is called.08:34
jujimufuunderdog5004, what exactly is josh's problem?08:34
josh_it says this like i just edit the dos boot disk version.08:34
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underdog5004jujimufu, he can't boot the XP disk to save his windows partition08:35
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underdog5004not necessary to boot the cd to fix it, though...08:35
josh_i tried a copy of the boot.ini and hal.dll from a know good version of windows.08:35
josh_Let me explain. Grub show 1. ubuntu 2. windows xp 3. windows loader08:36
josh_windows loader is the same hard drive as the linux install08:36
josh_windows loader shows win xp and win 200008:36
jujimufuunderdog5004, if I am not mistaken, if he boots with hte XP cd and asks for recovery, it will re-install windows' boot loader, and it it does not overwrite grub (i.e. grub is installed on the boot partition and not on the MBR), there will be some nasty conflict there...08:36
josh_which i had as duel boot before.08:36
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josh_all i have read says 3 bootable OS's confuses grub.08:36
underdog5004jujimufu, he just needs to boot to a recovery console and copy the working hal.dll and boot.ini over08:37
eric__is it possible to update a kubuntu 6.01 into a 7.04 or whatever?08:37
jujimufuunderdog5004, well, are we sure that his windows partitions still exist after installing ubuntu? I mean, it's his first time, he might as well have formatted the whole thing.08:37
underdog5004eric__, yes08:37
eric__How?08:37
intelikey10 shouldn't be a problem.   it might however confuse the automatic installer crap that sets up grub for you.08:37
underdog5004true..08:37
josh_ouch08:37
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xushihi all08:37
underdog5004eric__, use the update08:37
underdog5004r08:37
josh_I can get to pictures and files thru ubuntu08:37
jujimufuunderdog5004, also, can't he copy these files manualy from ubuntu?08:37
eric__the adept thing?08:37
josh_on that partition08:37
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underdog5004!feisty | eric__08:38
ubotueric__: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php08:38
xushiis there a difference between the server and desktop editions, appart from just software installed of which you can just apt-get in the desktop one ?08:38
underdog5004jujimufu, I don't know...seems to me that he can...08:38
josh_I can copy from windows drives but not write too.08:38
intelikeyxushi no08:38
jujimufuunderdog5004: if he changes the values in fstab so he can read/write the partition, and he writes the files to the hard-disk, either from a mounted CD rom (i.e. the windows xp cd) or the floppy disk.08:38
intelikey!ntfs-ng | josh_08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
intelikeyoooops08:39
underdog5004!ntfs08:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:39
intelikey!ntfs | josh_08:39
ubotujosh_: please see above08:39
josh_ok08:39
xushiintelikey : this is job related, where i'm replacing all the desktop machines here from windows to kubuntu, but yesterday it failed miserably.. and i cannot afford to lose today too.08:39
intelikey!ntfs-3g | josh_08:39
ubotujosh_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:39
intelikeythere.08:39
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josh_i can mount the drives but still not write to them.08:39
xushii tried to add kubuntu to a windows active directory , but it nologer allwed me to sudo or login anymore, said some error abut PAM08:39
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intelikeyxushi PAM password authentication mechinism08:40
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rogelio??08:40
josh_grub boots to the windows loader. Is that normal when I was duel booting before?08:40
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xushiintelikey: yes, i know :)08:41
intelikeyxushi windows active directory ?08:41
intelikeywhat fs ?08:41
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josh_so it says mounting gives me access to the drive.08:41
rogelioalguien habla espaol?08:41
josh_Write access or just read access?08:41
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intelikey!ntfs-3g | josh_ again.  if you need write access;08:42
ubotujosh_ again.  if you need write access;: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:42
xushintfs on that. but i followed a tutorial on how to setup kerberos etc.. it was successful but then borked the sudo/login. furthermore, kubuntu kept freezing, crashing , etc on me.. it was very bad08:42
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josh_ok.08:42
xushii mean this is a web development company, where these things i'm avoiding by getting away from windows. last thing iexpect to see is crashes and such on kubuntu =/08:43
intelikeyxushi yeah linux in M$ space is like a pinguin in the tropics08:43
jujimufu!hplij08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hplij - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
xushithe only reason i need it to be is so that i can have multiple vhosts here for apache, where others can connect to them.. how? by them querying the M$ DNS which needs to know who i am, through active directory08:44
xushiit's so gay08:44
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intelikey!hplip08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hplip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
intelikey! myself08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
Etokura!talking to girls08:45
eric__can i use adept manager in say, fedora core 6?08:45
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EtokuraSO I'm gonna get it to play ogg08:45
EtokuraSome simple hack i found08:46
intelikeyeric__ hehhe  no.08:46
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josh_I clearly need some basic knowledge here. Can some explain how to get superuser privilege thru the command terminal?08:46
josh_is there a list of commands.08:46
eric__what can i use to download programs i need in fedora core then?08:46
intelikeyjosh_ sudo -i08:47
jussi01josh_: prefix the command with sudo08:47
jujimufujosh_, you just write sudo08:47
josh_like what dpkg stands for.08:47
intelikey!cli | josh_08:47
ubotujosh_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:47
jujimufujosh_, or you write su and then the password08:47
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intelikeylist of commands  ^08:47
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intelikeyjujimufu there is no root password.  he's playing default ball08:47
epimethxushi: I'm still a bit confused as to why you would want the kubuntu box in the microsoft AD?08:48
jujimufuintelikey: he should set one with sudo passwd08:48
dennisterhaving trouble with surround sound, snd-intel8x0...alsa channel quiet...anyone have any expertise in this stuff and can help?08:48
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XenocoderHey now Everyone! Quick Question... In Edgy my right side panel icons used to stack two high, but after upgrading they they are now single height again. Anyway to change that back?08:48
eric__How would i install a tar.bz2 file?08:48
intelikeyjujimufu while i might agree with you it is totally against *buntu policy to advice new comers to do that08:48
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XenocoderEric: tar -jxvf tarball.tar.bz208:49
josh_i tried to install ntfs configuration tool and get error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.08:49
josh_E: _cache->open() failed, please report.08:49
xushiepimeth : the others here, including some windows machines, need to see my machine, when they ping xushi.company.local. The DNS is a windows DNS server here. I have on my machine multiple vhosts, of which they all need to see08:49
jujimufuintelikey: why is it totally against *ubuntu policy?08:49
xushiapparently i have to register myself in the active directory domain so that they can all see me. otherwise they can't ping me and i can't ping them08:49
intelikeyjujimufu they think it's a security issue.08:49
josh_if I type that in to the command terminal I need super user priverlage08:49
eric__xem will that work on fedora core 6?08:50
epimethjujimufu: not against *ubuntu policy.... just against #kubuntu policy :-)08:50
intelikeyjosh_ so do what is says .   sudo dpkg --configure -a08:50
jujimufuok :P08:50
xushiepimeth: but now i have an even bigger problem.. i borked my sudo/login with PAM or soething.. if you can help, i can reboot now and give you the error message08:50
josh_with super privelage get cannot execute binary08:50
epimethjujimufu: best to use sudo -i anyway08:50
jujimufuepimeth: mhm08:50
intelikeyepimeth no *ubuntu policy08:50
epimethintelikey: really?  I thought it was just us here08:51
intelikeyif you don't think so  /j #ubuntu and ask08:51
josh_i followed what it says.08:51
epimethxushi: I really don't know anything about PAM... what I do know is that you can set up the following:08:51
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intelikeyepimeth they are real sudo nazi's in there08:51
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XenocoderEric that should work on any command line08:51
epimethdamnit intelikey! you broke it!  buy me a new head08:52
josh_is their a general tutorial you can point me too. I will read it so I have a little knowledge then come back.08:52
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epimethxushi: you set up kubuntu normally and install samba server08:52
josh_kind of silly to try and fix something when I cant even get around.08:52
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josh_just basic linux knowledge.08:53
josh_ubuntu specific if possible.08:53
eric__I need to instal this tar.bz2 file on my fredora core 6 machine, how do i do this?08:53
mardi!cli08:53
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:53
xushiepimeth : and setup kerberos :) which is what messed up everything08:53
intelikeyjosh_ did you not look at the link ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:53
xushii need to recover this error and login again08:53
jujimufuI need help setting up an HP PSC2300 printer (printer only) on Feisty Fawn 7.04, KDE. The printer is connected to the computer.08:53
se7en_sombody know how to convert ape to mp308:53
xushii'll paste it here for all to help in 5 minutes08:53
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josh_thank you. your time is appreciated.08:53
epimethxushi: no, no, no08:54
crimsunse7en_: use WINE with MAC.EXE08:54
epimethxushi: no kerberos08:54
intelikeyjosh_   and the man page for all commands (though it may seem a bit criptic at first)  is very handy.     man man    man intro08:54
XenocoderEric if you just type in tar -jxvf tarname.tar.bz2 it will unpack and bunzip for you08:54
eric__thank you08:54
se7en_crimsun: i would rather use linux08:54
XenocoderDoes anyone know how to get the panel to stack 2x2 again?08:54
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epimethxushi: waaaait.... you need people to log onto the system using their domain users?08:55
XenocoderAfter upgrade the KDE panel on the right shows single row again, I liked the 2 row design08:55
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mardiXenocoder: did you try changing it's size?08:56
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xushiepimeth: not anymore. I just want kubuntu'ers to be able to see other windows machines in the domain, and vice versa, and 2) i want th ekubuntu'ers to be able to host multiple vhosts in apache for their projects, of which anyone else can see too (internally only)08:56
Xenocodermardi - Hi no I did not... The fab four (amarok,konq, etc) are 2x2 but not the right side anymore08:56
mardiXenocoder: right click, configure, size08:56
jujimufuXenocoder: you can change that by right-clicking on the panel -> pages options -> rows -> 208:56
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intelikeymardi i thought of that but it seemed like a no brainer, and i expected him to have a brain08:56
Xenocoderthanks let me try that real quick08:56
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epimethxushi: okay good... so no need for kerberos... thats just for authentication08:57
mardipages options?08:57
mardioh oh pager options08:57
xushiepimeth: are you sure? i couldn't ping them or them ping me without me authenticating through kerberos08:57
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epimethxushi: could you ping by ip?08:57
intelikey!bind908:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bind9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
xushiepimeth: i haven't tried to be honest. Will do as soon as i can login again. brb, going to switch machines and reboot08:58
epimethxushi: see I totally worked around this problem :-)  I used samba as the domain controller... sure, no nice AD style administration, but at least everything *worked* :-)08:58
intelikeythey have hacked ubotu again.08:59
intelikey!info bind908:59
ubotubind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 788 kB08:59
xushiepimeth: i hope you're right! this will save me days of work and hassle ;)08:59
xushibrb08:59
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LucidFoxis there a KDE equivalent for Tomboy?09:01
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jujimufuLucidFox: knote?09:01
jujimufuLucidFox: *KNotes09:01
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LucidFoxthanks09:02
jujimufuLucidFox: you can always google :)09:02
EtokuraTomboy works under KDE09:02
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LucidFoxyes, but it depends on Mono, and having both Mono and kdelibs in memory...09:02
jujimufuEtokura: practically, everything on one environment works on the other with the proper libraries09:02
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xushiback09:03
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intelikeyLucidFox which mono*  or just venella  mono  ?09:04
xushihere's the error:09:04
LucidFox"venella"?09:04
LucidFoxTomboy uses Gtk#09:04
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xushipam_winbind[4357] : write to socket failed. Internal module error (retval = 3, user = xushi)09:05
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LucidFoxKNotes fits!09:05
LucidFoxI think it's better than Tomboy09:05
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LucidFoxanother question: I have black background in Konqueror in file manager mode, is there any way to fix that?09:06
fsckitcan someone tell me why certain fonts look screwed up in gnome apps?09:06
intelikeyok it depends on    mono-classlib-1.0 mono-common mono-jit    so probably two .so 's and a chunck09:06
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LucidFoxfsckit> have you selected the "Use KDE fonts in GTK applications" option?09:06
LucidFoxintelikey> You know what Mono is, don't you?09:07
intelikeymono - Mono CLI (.NET) runtime09:07
fsckitLucidFox, yes. not all gnome apps, just a few and one game...Legends. the fonts look squished when they're messed up09:07
intelikeyno i don't09:07
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xushiwhat should the content of /etc/nsswitch.conf be? compat? files ?09:08
intelikeyis the fact that it's "novell" what bothers you ?09:09
xushithis will help me09:09
LucidFoxfsckit> try switching font hinting to "Full"09:09
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xushiepimeth: yes, i can ping other machine's IP addresses btw09:11
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epimethxushi: could you give me about 15 mins, I'll be back09:13
intelikeyok i'm went09:13
xushitake your time epimeth09:13
intelikeylater you'ens09:13
epimethintelikey: wented... wentED09:14
epimethintelikey: adios09:14
xushiin the mean time, could anyone help me by giving me a dump of their /etc/nsswitch.conf please? i'd like to compare09:16
jujimufuI have an HP PSC 2300 printer connected on my USB port, it is recognised by KDE Control Panel (i.e. the printer shows up when I have to select on which port my printer is located), I choose the correct drivers, but neither the test page or anything else I've tried prints anything from the printer. I am using CUPS at the moment (default option) on Feisty Fawn 7.04. Any ideas?09:16
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flaccid!gutsy09:21
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+109:21
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fsckitanyone use qemu here?09:22
flaccidyep09:22
flaccidqemu is cool09:22
fsckiti'm using qemu for xp install and it won't recognize my 98 full disc, could it be a mount issue?09:22
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flaccid98 full disc?09:23
flaccidcdrom ?09:23
fsckityes, full version and xp upgrade09:23
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flaccidthis is to install into an iso?09:24
fsckitflaccid, yes09:24
flaccidhave you tried another boot disc by any chance?09:24
fsckitflaccid, into an img file09:24
flaccidand you are running something like qemu -localtime -cdrom /dev/cdrom -m 384 -boot d windows.img09:24
fsckitflaccid, yes, the cd doesn't seem to be spinning up when it is queing the drive09:25
flaccidum09:26
flaccidcheck that the cdrom is not already mounted with the mount command09:26
epimethxushi: okay I'm here09:26
xushigood =)09:26
fsckityes, it is mounted09:26
xushii think i need to uninstall/reinstall PAM to get thius to work again09:26
epimethxushi: where were we?09:26
xushibut dont know what/how the package is called to remove it09:26
flaccidi think it needs to be umounted, fsck?09:27
xushiepimeth: want me to paste the errors i got again for you ?09:27
epimethxushi: hmm.... you have PAM cuz you tried kerberos, yes?09:27
epimethactually, yes... that would be best09:27
epimeth!pastebin09:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:27
xushiepimeth: afaik i had PAM every since the clean install.. i think i edited it to work with kerberos, but that's when something broke09:28
xushisudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication information cannot be recovered09:28
xushipam_winbind[4357] : write to socket failed. Internal module error (retval = 3, user = xushi)09:28
fsckitflaccid, i'm trying both, no luck so far09:28
flaccidand /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device . try file /dev/cdrom09:29
epimethxushi: what did you do in order to get kerberos installed?09:29
fsckitflaccid, screw it, i'll just use my pirated copy, lol09:29
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flaccidfsckit: have you tried other boot cdroms yet?09:29
flaccidyou don't get a cdrom prompt on start of qemu at all?09:30
xushiepimeth: i followed this almost all the way, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html09:30
fsckitflaccid, not yet09:30
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flaccidits possible the problem is either the cdrom or the cd media itself09:30
xushiepimeth: i went to step 8, until sudo and login borked. then kubuntu crashed again, when i rebooted, i couldnt login anymore09:31
fsckitflaccid, yes, i do, just when start xp, then it asks for a 98....full version for my xp upgrade, then i have the probs09:31
xushinow i'm in recovery mode09:31
flaccidright09:31
flaccidso you can boot cdrom09:31
fsckityes09:31
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flaccidto be honest im not sure if you can do that fsckit . try google or #qemu ?09:31
epimethcan you ping your DC?09:31
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xushiby IP address, yes09:32
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flaccidand sometimes its the fault of the windows installer. ive had it not like genuine retail copies trying to upgrade!09:32
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ericsince beryl and compiz are merging again wich one should i install?09:32
epimethtry using that instead of the name in the krb5.conf09:32
epimethjust for now09:32
xushiwoah, i can also ping them by the company name09:32
xushiping machine.company.local09:32
xushik, sec09:33
epimethno09:33
epimethheh09:33
epimethif you can ping it that way then great\09:33
epimeth:-)09:33
epimethI thought you meant you couldn't get host.domain.local09:33
xushiyea! but problem is i cannot sudo or login to my local machine anymore :)09:33
epimethI understand :-)09:33
epimethpastebin your krb5.conf and smb.conf09:34
crimsun229iiii[5~[5~[5~[5~[6~[6~ii[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[5~[6~[6~[6~09:34
crimsun09:34
xushithat would be a bit hard, as i'm on my laptop here chatting, and the kubunto is on the other machine09:34
xushisec, i might use my usb stick to do it09:34
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epimethxushi:  I'll wait...09:35
epimethxushi: did you make backups of the original files, btw?09:36
xushithats the dumbest thing i did yesterday09:36
xushino i didnt backup =/09:36
flaccidhas anyone used a vm product to vm to an existing installed OS on a dif partition?09:36
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xushiepimeth: http://pastebin.ca/46699609:37
xushiepimeth: http://pastebin.ca/46699709:38
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andreahi...09:39
andreaitaliano..09:39
andreavoglio..09:39
epimethxushi: when you try to log in are you trying to use the username and password you were using before or the one from AD?09:39
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Tm_T!it | andrea09:39
ubotuandrea: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:39
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xushiepimeth: yes. I'm just trying to login with my local user/passwd: xushi/xushi09:40
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FeistyForgehey all :)09:40
epimethxushi: have you tried a domain's username and password?09:40
xushibut it doesn't even try to authenticate with anything.. it just immediately gives me those errors above09:40
xushiyes09:40
xushii tried09:40
epimethkay09:40
epimethit had to be asked :-)09:40
xushihehe09:41
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epimethkinda like: "is your computer plugged in to the electricity, sir?"09:41
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xushidamn it i expect quality when i asked for this cup holder, not this plastic that snapped!09:41
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FeistyForgeand when the answer is no your reply should be "then please pack up your PC and monitor and send it back to the manufacturer with a label on it saying "I'm too stupid to own a PC"09:42
epimethjust out of curiosity... pastebin the kerberos log?09:42
xushihmm, if i can find it09:42
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xushidamn, i mseed up the configurations too much.. let me try and revert09:43
epimethFeistyForge: no, no, no... its like "Ooooohhhhh. I see what the problem is!  okay, it's really important that you do exactly as I tell you.  do you still have the box the computer came in?  Okay, good.... now put the computer back in the box and send it back to the manufacturer!  It's that bad?  Yes, sir.  What should I tell them?  That you're too stupid to own a computer. *click*09:44
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FeistyForgerofl :)09:44
xushihaha'09:44
FeistyForgeat least it will stop them using their DVD drive's tray as a coffe-mug holder09:45
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epimeththats the end to the one where the guy can't tell if the monitor is hooked up to the computer "because it's dark in here" (nothing was displaying on the screen)09:45
epimethwhy is it dark, sir?  because the lights are out09:45
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epimethso why don't you turn them on, sir?  becuase there's a power outage09:45
underdog5004I work in a computer shop (local, not big box) and some people are seriously like that!09:45
underdog5004I tell them to hit the start button...and they DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS!09:46
FeistyForgewhy's there a power outage? "because I havn't paid my electricity bill for 2 years"09:46
epimethlol09:46
FeistyForgeunderdog, its better than not knowing where the "any" key is :)09:46
underdog5004some don't know what version of windows they're running...I've taken to asking if they have a green button at the bottom-left corner09:46
FeistyForgehehe I moved my XP taskbar to the top09:47
FeistyForge(so I have now rocketdock on the bottom.. nice little app btw)09:47
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FeistyForgethat nick sounds quite japanese...09:47
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FeistyForgelike a character from street fighter almost09:48
underdog5004anyway, I'm going to bed...got a nice warm girlfriend to snuggle up to...g'night09:48
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FeistyForgenight ud09:48
underdog5004lol, rocketdock wins...fatality!09:48
underdog5004oh wait...wrong game09:48
FeistyForgehehe09:48
FeistyForgerofl09:48
underdog5004lol, night09:48
FeistyForgeI like the mixed thing you come out with from it tho09:48
epimethgnight!09:49
FeistyForgeMortal KO OS wars?...09:49
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epimethxushi: why'd you leave all the legacy stuff in krb5.conf?09:49
epimethxushi: comment anything out that isn't what was in the howto09:50
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epimethxushi: just trying to cover all the bases...09:50
xushihmm, i thought i did, let me check09:50
epimethxushi: did you get the log, btw?09:50
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xushiepimeth: i can't find the log09:50
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epimeth /var/log/krb5lib.log09:50
soopstupid question: How can I add Items/locations to the system menu popup on the status bar?09:50
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FeistyForgesoop like an applet?09:51
xushiepimeth: i see no /var/log/krb*09:51
epimethhrm...09:51
epimethkay09:51
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xushijust kdm.log and kern.log09:51
FeistyForgefor the kmenu you can just right click and edit the menu09:51
epimethlocate krb5 ?09:51
FeistyForge(using the kmenu editor)09:51
soopFeistyForge: you know the little computer icon on the default kubuntu task/status bar? ... displays home, remote places, etc. ...09:51
FeistyForgebut for the kicker (system panel) you have to add a program to the panel09:52
FeistyForgeoh that one?... I'm not certain you can alter that menu, I havn't exactly tried09:52
soopI'm sure you must be able to ... be nice to have a link to commonly accessed folders in there09:52
xushiepimeth: heh, nope.. there is no log09:52
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FeistyForgewell you can add a link to a launcher or something but not specifically inside that menu09:53
FeistyForgethat I know of09:53
soopwhat is that menu called?09:53
FeistyForge(without knowing more about kde)09:53
epimethxushi: kay... you getting rid of all the extraneous stuff from krb5.conf?  and by "getting rid" I mean "commenting out so you can always undo it!!!!"09:53
FeistyForgeI think its just a places menu  or system menu of some sort... not certain about its specific name09:53
xushiepimeth: everything there appart from the Heimdals section i was told by the tutorial to use09:54
xushibut i'll double check now09:54
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soopbummer09:55
xushiok done09:56
epimethwhere does it say to use it?09:57
FeistyForgeI found it its actually an applet09:58
xushihttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html09:58
xushistep 109:58
FeistyForgeits called the system menu09:58
xushierr, step 209:58
FeistyForge(you can add/remove it by add to panel on the kicker - ie main panel equiv to taskbar in the Windows world)09:59
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epimethxushi: there is no mention of heimdals anywhere in step 2....09:59
xushiyea i meant to say everything appart from that was mentioned09:59
xushii just deleted that part09:59
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FeistyForgebut its an applet not an icon or application10:00
xushiepimeth: i checked everything so far again, except smb.conf. let me go through it10:00
FeistyForgeI'm not sure what determines the entries to that menu however it may be static10:00
FeistyForge(ie hardcoded into the applet)10:00
epimethhaven't you learned not to delete, yet??? xushi... never ever delete things in conf files10:00
epimethxushi: or if you do, *always* keep dated backups10:01
xushiyes we;; i copied krb5.con to .bak too :)10:01
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xycan i get some help on fixing my kmix audio on feisty10:01
FeistyForgebut you can add the quick launcher to the kicker that way you effectively have a commonly used applications area...10:01
FeistyForgexy mine crashes arts on startup...10:02
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xywell mine was working fine until i accidently deleted my own user account when i meant to delete a folder in my home. so when i added another user as alternate account and access new account, there seems to be no current mixer found10:03
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FeistyForgewell you can run kmix as a service10:03
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xyi have only used linux for 3 months, so im not too familiar on how to start stop services10:04
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FeistyForgein kubuntu theres a system settings options in your kmenu10:04
xyok10:04
FeistyForgein there with administrator priveleges you can modify services... I think its in the advanced section10:04
FeistyForge(its much like the Control panel under windows)10:05
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xyoh the system services10:05
FeistyForgeI don't know if thats the best way or even the right way, I just know thats one way to see/modify running services10:05
xushisweet! i have progress now10:05
epimethxushi: oh?10:06
xyhow do i add kmix tho10:06
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FeistyForgealso ksysguard has a process list to kill tasks with...10:06
FeistyForgebut you have to run it as root10:06
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xushiepimeth: now if i sudo anything in user xushi, and enter password, it pauses for a bit, then gives me a few strings of NT_STATUS_CANT_ACCESS_DOMAIN_INFO errors10:06
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xyuhhh alsa refuses to run10:06
FeistyForge(otherwise you can only see them)10:06
epimethxushi: so xushi/xushi worked?10:07
FeistyForgeum.. xy, if it gives you an error you may be able to work it out10:07
FeistyForgebut I don't know if I can help you from there10:07
epimethxushi: wait... is that your local user of your domain user?10:07
xushilocal10:07
xythere is no error, it just displays status as not running10:07
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FeistyForgetry running it in a console window10:07
xushiepimeth: do i have to useradd my domain user here locally too ?10:07
xyis kmix supposed to be in that list somewhere too? cuz i don't see it in the list at all10:08
FeistyForge(ie run konsole - it may show up as terminal in your kmenu somewhere)10:08
epimethxushi: no!!!10:08
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xushiok good10:08
FeistyForgeanyway the icon for it generally looks like a black monitor10:08
FeistyForgeit will be there somewhere10:08
epimethxushi: did you create /home/DOMAINNAME ?10:08
xushiepimeth: yes10:08
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xyrun what in konsole10:08
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FeistyForgeassuming the program it runs is called alsa, just type that in your terminal window... and see what happens10:09
donkeyofdarknessyakuake is fancy10:09
xushiepimeth: but it's empty10:09
petesejtI had troubles upgrading Edgy to Feisty, shall I describe it here or will someone help in pvt?10:09
epimethxushi: okay...10:09
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xushibut what i don't get is why my local user cna't login anymore to the local machine10:09
FeistyForgeif that doesn't work try doing this: man alsa10:09
epimethxushi: I thought you just did?10:09
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FeistyForge(hopefully theres an entry for it to explain10:09
jussi01!paste | petesejt10:09
ubotupetesejt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:09
xushiepimeth: no.. it wont accept the password10:10
xyisn't also just an audio driver or some sort10:10
donkeyofdarknessIs there a good way to upgrade from dapper to feisty or am I better off doing a clean install?10:10
xyalsa*10:10
xythe alsa-util10:10
petesejtWell, I do not need paste bin, it isn't so long story :)10:10
epimethxushi: but you just said that sudo isn't working for xushi10:10
FeistyForgexy yeah I know of alsa ... but I don't know a whole lot about it10:11
xushiyes, sudo isn't working for xushi10:11
xushibecause sudo asks for xushi's password10:11
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epimethlol10:11
FeistyForgeI know its linux's sound system (and related to arts)10:11
xyhmm this has been frustrating night10:11
xushiwhen i enter it, it gives me a few lines of errors10:11
epimethyou are logged in right now?10:11
epimethas xushi?10:11
epimeththe local user10:11
FeistyForgebut other than that I don't really know how to trigger it or use it as such... I was hoping it would come up a message that would explain to you how to fix it10:11
xushiepimeth: i'm logged in as root, and whe i want to test xushi i su - xushi10:12
xushithen sudo ls to test sudo10:12
xushii'm in the recovery mode10:12
epimethohhh10:12
xyheh i don't know what it is since there is no error message, but im sure the link to alsa-util is broken somewhere10:12
xushiwoah!10:12
epimethwhat happened when you tried to go in to the regular kernel?10:12
xushifound a typo in the pam configs, sec10:12
FeistyForgexy if you know where its supposed to be10:13
xushiwhen reg kernel, it asks for login, but same prolem10:13
FeistyForgeyou may be able to use a symbolic link10:13
xyi don't that is the problem10:13
epimethstill with the pam?10:13
FeistyForgewell then I'm sorry I can't help you any further...10:13
xushidamn man10:13
xythis is my first encounter with a problem like this10:13
epimetha type in the pam configs probably would kill the whole thing, now? :-)10:13
epimeths/now/no10:13
xushiepimeth: i got it to work now.. (ALMOST)10:13
xushilol yea10:13
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epimethgreat!10:14
xushiit still gives me the pam_winbind errors, but atleast it executes the sudo command10:14
xushisec, let me reboot into normal kernel and see what happens10:14
epimethreboot the machine10:14
menaHi10:14
epimeththat'll restart winbind10:14
epimethand probably fix everything10:14
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menaHow are yyou all?10:14
xyhopefully someone in here can surely help to fix my kmix current mixer issue10:14
tdnAre there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?10:14
petesejtSystem was: Edgy (updated) with Beryl 0.2.0. Adept hanged during the upgrade process so hard, that even 'halt' did not work from console. After restart I do not have console at all not even in recovery mode. Anyone?10:14
xushiinstead of use_first_pass, it was user_first_pass.. damn i hate typoes10:14
menacan I join you?10:15
xushiepimeth: btw, thanks for all the help so far, you really offered a lot :)10:15
epimethxushi: no worries10:15
FeistyForgeouch pete...10:16
FeistyForgecan you boot from a liveCD?10:16
petesejtNow I can not have a console in any kernels.....10:16
FeistyForgemaybe you can check it out from there?10:16
petesejtsure10:16
petesejtedgy or feisty?10:16
FeistyForgeeither10:17
petesejtFeistyForge: may I call u in pvt?10:17
xushiepimeth: there's one more thing too, slightly off topic.. I accidentally installed NIS. Now when booting it always says "binding to YP server..." and hangs there for about 4 minutes... how can i get rid of that ?10:17
FeistyForgejust an OS that has ext3-accessibility10:17
xushijust uninstall NIS ?10:17
FeistyForgepete to be honest I doubt its going to be of much use10:17
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xyhey one more question. if there is only my account and root, is my uid supposed to be 1000, or 100110:18
petesejtThe last line I can see in recovery mode is "* Setting up console font and keymap..." Shall I try to boot to console only?10:18
ForgeAusif you like...10:19
aldinhow to run kwebdesktop?10:19
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petesejtIm gonna try it now, back soon.10:19
jujimufuI have three keyboard layouts on KDE, all installed and running. However, I would like to switch layouts without having to click on the tray icon, just by pressing left Shift+Alt, for example (like in windows). How do I set this up?10:19
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epimethxushi: I have no idea... maybe?10:20
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underdog5004bleagh, I can't sleep...10:20
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ForgeAusJuji I'm suprised skim doesn't have something to do that for oyu10:21
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epimethunderdog5004: bleagh, yea... that happens to me when I have a nice warm girlfriend to snuggle up with... I just don't usually go back online after!10:22
matthiasHello. I've got a question about my WLAN (RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)) It's not working with Feisty, so I compiled another driver for it to get it work. The Problem is that I often have to run dhclient to get into the net again. Do anyone have the same problems?10:23
underdog5004rofl, she's really warm...too warm to lay with under covers....but it's too cold w/o covers...and I can't fall asleep...she's already asleep...10:23
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menaHi10:24
menaIs this the online help of Kubuntu?/10:24
epimethxushi: does you network use nis?10:24
epimethmena: yes10:24
underdog5004mena, yep10:24
underdog5004what do you need help w/ ?10:24
menaI was just wondering, I'm a migrative from Windows XP10:25
epimethunderdog5004: if you're trying to get me to want to hurt you, you're doing a good job...10:25
mena:)10:25
underdog5004epimeth, I use stumbleupon, and when I clicked it today, it said that I'd looked at _every_ linux/unix page available...10:25
epimethmena: welcome!10:25
epimethlol10:25
underdog5004mena, what can we help you with?10:25
epimethmatthias: I have that problem with my desktop10:26
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matthiasNo, I don't have nis10:26
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menaThanks10:26
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underdog5004epimeth, uh...what?10:26
matthiasepimeth: What WLAN-Card do you use?10:26
ericI have a Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 what nvidia driver should i install to use it with Compiz and Kubuntu?10:26
epimethmatthias: I can't for the life of me figure out why...  I didn't have to recompile like you10:27
xushiepimeth: no. Just to make sure, the netbios name, is that my machine name?10:27
ForgeAusahh actually theres a tray applet for keyboard configs10:27
epimethmatthias: mines a realtek something or other10:27
epimethmatthias: and nis wasn't aimed at you, it was to xushi10:27
underdog5004eric, I've got an FX 5500, I use the 9753 driver, I think10:27
Tm_Teric: hmm, you mean, "do I have to" or "can I" ?10:27
epimethxushi: yes10:27
underdog5004!envy | eric10:27
menaIs there something like msdn? for devlopement over Kubuntu?10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
epimethunderdog5004: haha... no ubotu help for you!10:28
ericwell i used adept manager to install the nvidia-glx driver and when i try to run compiz it doesnt work...10:28
matthiasHmm.. that's crazy.10:28
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Tm_Teric: whoops, sorry, misread, just install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new10:28
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ericwhat one should i use?10:28
epimethmatthias: yea... drives me nutso10:28
underdog5004eric, check out nvidia.com for more info...10:28
underdog5004eric, h/o a sec10:28
epimethmatthias: and I can't find conf files for knetworkmanager anywhere10:28
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underdog5004eric, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html10:29
menaIs there something like msdn? for devlopement over Kubuntu?10:29
epimethmatthias: I *know* all of my /etc/networking/interfaces are correct10:29
matthiasRight. KNetworkManager isn't working with my card, too.10:29
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underdog5004nice installer. It'll auto-detect your card and d/l the driver for it...and install it10:29
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erikja!focus10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about focus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
erikja!focus follows mouse10:30
erikja!mouse10:30
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto10:30
underdog5004erikja, you need to enable sloppy focusing10:30
underdog5004it'll be under focus model...don't know where though...lemme poke around10:30
Tm_Teric: as I said,  nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new10:30
Tm_Teric: both works10:31
epimethunderdog5004: nice installer my @ss... didn't work with mine.  I read the news... he said "my nVidia geForce2 card died the other day, so I won't finish the driver for it"... I'm like WHAT?!?!?!?!? what do I do now???  so I just used the driver from nvidia.com and everything worked :-)10:31
underdog5004epimeth, ha ha, and watch the language. Unless you have a geforce2 card, np10:31
epimethmatthias: you misunderstand... Knetworkmanager works with my card, I just have to tell it to connect every time10:31
xushiand kubuntu just froze on me again...10:31
epimethgeforce2 mx/400 :-)10:32
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xushii cannot trust this10:32
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underdog5004hahahahaha, I have a Geforce2 Go in my lappy...envy doesn't get the right driver for it...although nvidia lists the wrong driver for it as well!10:32
epimethmatthias: and if I dhclient *after* I log in to X then I can access the network from all terminals, but not with X until I connect through knetworkmanager10:33
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epimethmatthias: how's that for awesome? :)10:33
epimethxushi: what happened now?10:33
sonoftheclayrunderdog5004: what driver do i need? i have the same card. can you get yours to work? i only get a blank screen10:33
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xushiepimeth: it just froze... it happens a lot with kubuntu since i installed it for some reason10:33
erikjaunderdog5004: thanks for your info. How do I that ??. SORRY!, I have a phone here :-)10:33
xushiis there anyway to find te cause or anythig ?10:33
epimethunderdog5004: I know! but during the install it tells you which one to use10:33
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underdog5004erikja, go under systemsettings, Window Behaviour, then change the policy to sloppy, or focus follows mouse10:34
erikjaok10:34
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matthiasepimeth: After all a small step.. :-) I solved the problem with an script: It checks, wether the connection is online. If not, the script calls dhclient :-)10:34
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epimethxushi: thats strange... before or after you started playing with samba and kerberos?10:34
epimethmatthias: I'll get around to it eventually10:34
underdog5004epimeth, I can't remember which driver...it's the one that's one more recent than the one recommended...10:35
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xushiepimeth: way before10:35
xushiepimeth: could it be nvidia drivers ?10:35
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ericOk, now that i have it in, when i try to run Compiz i lose all my window bars on the tops and nothing will open!10:35
epimethxushi: lol... got nvidia on the brain? :-)10:35
underdog5004bummer10:35
menaPlease, can anyone reply me10:36
matthiasepimeth: Ok!10:36
epimethxushi: dunno... could be so many things... try disabling all services and enabling them one by one till you find the source of the problem10:36
xushiepimeth: NV44 GF 6200 turbocache, with the 9631 drivers installed10:36
epimethmatthias: sorry I can't help you :-)10:36
matthiasMena: you can use kopete, or what do you mean?10:36
ericAnyone know why? Ok, now that i have it in, when i try to run Compiz i lose all my window bars on the tops and nothing will open!10:37
epimethmatthias: actually.... have you tried manually setting the mac address for dhcp-server in interfaces?10:37
underdog5004eric, check compiz' forums/wiki10:37
ericfor what underdog?10:37
underdog5004I think they've got an IRC channel as well10:37
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underdog5004eric, for a solution to your problem...10:37
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menaWhat is Kopete?10:37
ericwhat is thier irc channel?10:38
underdog5004eric, I don't know...why don't you CTFW ?10:38
underdog5004Check the Website10:38
matthiasepimeth: It's ok, I only wanted to know if anyone else have the same problem.. :-) It works in a way..10:38
epimethxushi: that tells me absollutely nothing... I'm recently released from the army where I was very disconnected from new hardware for a while... its like "wha?? when did they start using big numbers?  last I heard we were at geforce 4!!! :-)10:38
epimethmatthias: no worries :-)10:38
xushihehe10:38
xushifair enough10:38
matthiasYeah, I set up the macaddress. If I do not, it wouldn't work.. :-)10:39
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epimethxushi: you tried logging in as a domain user yet?10:39
epimethmatthias: oh... even worse than my problem, then10:40
menaPlease can anyone tell me more about Kopete?10:40
Tm_Tmena: what about it?10:41
underdog5004!kopete10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
epimethmena: what do you want to know about it?10:41
underdog5004weird...h/o, mena, lemme use google...cause it's really hard!10:41
Tm_Tunderdog5004: Kopete is not hard =)10:41
Sesshoumaru!wtf10:41
underdog5004http://kopete.kde.org/10:41
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:41
xushinot yet. When i try and login through net ads join, it gives me the error: Host is not configured as a member server. Invalid Configuration. Exitting....10:41
Tm_Tmena: just ask what you like to know10:41
Sesshoumaru!apt-get10:41
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:41
underdog5004mena, http://kopete.kde.org/10:41
erici can't find anything on this error10:41
matthiasmena: Sorry, I understood you were looking for "MSN", not for MSDN :-) Ok, now I know what you meant *gg*10:41
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xushiepimeth: but the samba configs are more or less the same as the ones provided in the link10:42
Tm_T!compiz | eric10:42
ubotueric: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:42
Sesshoumaru!wifi10:42
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:42
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Tm_Tmena: btw you're always free to come #kopete ;)10:42
ericI can't find anything about missing window bars and not being able to open anything10:42
matthiasMena: Are you looking for API-Help or something like that?10:42
ericI did the install of compiz step by step10:43
ericand put in nvidia-glx driver10:43
ericrebooted and ran compiz and i have no window bars and i cant open anything10:43
eric:(10:43
menaSorry my machine is so slow10:43
menaYes10:44
Tm_Teric: #ubuntu-effects10:44
menaAPI help10:44
Tm_Tmena: #kopete might help with that ;)10:44
Tm_Tmena: and also techbase.kde.org10:44
epimetheric: lol... that just means compiz is working10:44
epimethhehe10:44
matthiasWhich kind of API are you searching?10:44
Sesshoumaruanyone know how to automatically connect to wifi without using keyring10:44
menaOkay10:44
epimetheric you have to install a theme as well10:44
menaTell me more about techbase.kde.org10:45
petesejtFeistyForge: r u still here?10:45
matthiasYeah, techbase.kde.org is cool for KDE stuff.10:45
Tm_Ttechbase <310:45
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menaI have a question10:46
Tm_Task then10:46
petesejtAdept hanged during upgrade, now I am without console. Anyone?10:46
matthiasmena: you only have to browse on that page, it's easy to find what you want there.10:46
epimethxushi: wins support = no10:47
epimethyour dc should be the wins server10:47
menaI have downloaded all the packages, each one of them will installing, resulted in errors, and then  adept says that I have all the updates installed, how come?10:47
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matthiasmena: which packages?10:48
epimethxushi: security = ads... geez man, you didn't read the howto at all! :-p10:48
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menaKdevelop10:49
xushiepimeth: security is = to ads, i changed it while going through samba a while ago10:49
Tm_Tmatthias: and exact error is...10:50
epimethxushi: back up your smb.conf, then create a new one and copy/paste whats in the howto's smb.conf.  then, once everything is working start adding the things you want10:50
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epimethsuch as shares, printers, and the like10:50
xushiyea good idea10:50
petesejtAdept hanged to death (even 'halt' did not respond!) during upgrade from edgy to feisty. After reboot I do not have a console at all even in recovery mode. Details in pvt. Anyone?10:50
matthiasTm_T: No there is no error. The only sign is that the connection is down to my router.10:50
Tm_Twhops10:51
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epimethpetesejt: seems a lot of people have had problems doing that upgrade...10:52
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epimethpetesejt: if you don't have a console then there is really nothing anyone can do, afaik...10:52
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roel_does anybody here use argouml. If so how did you install it because It won't work here?10:52
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epimethmake sure you're system is compatable with fesity (no reason why not) by using the livecd, then reinstall... best I can offer you right now.  someone else probably knows more than me, tho, so you might want to hang around10:53
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petesejtepimeth: thanks. Now I have Edgy Live up and running. Is there a relatively easy way to fix the problem?10:54
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epimethpetesejt: I just said... install from scratch :-) but feisty, not edgy!  unless there is any good reason for you not to install from scratch?10:56
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petesejtepimeth: may I call you in pvt?10:57
epimethpetesejt: sure10:58
xushiI have another problem here.. i replaced my mysql databases with th ebackup i need from work. Now evrytime i try and start mysql from the init script, it says error, access denied for user debian-sys-maint@localhost.10:58
flaccidcan you login as root10:58
flaccidwas one of the tables you restored called 'mysql'?11:00
epimethxushi: heh... my knowledge of proper mysql administration is less than complete... sounds like a GRANT problem to m11:00
epimethe11:00
xushiyea, but grant all on what? on mysql.* ?11:00
flaccidits not that simple11:00
flaccidlearn mysql or goto #mysq11:01
flaccid#mysql11:01
xushiflaccid: i know mysql thank you very much11:01
xushiand i use it on other systems that dont require this silly user11:01
flaccidah like i said11:01
xushiso no it's not a #mysql issue, it's a #ubuntu /#kubuntu issue11:01
flaccidcan you log in as root11:01
xushiyes i can11:01
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flaccidthen if you know mysql, you could look at the tables in the mysql database and see what the problem is with user debian-sys-maint11:02
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xushiflaccid: if you know mysql and kubuntu, you would have noticed, as i said, that this had nothing to do with that.. IT's the username that needt to be in single quotes coz of the dash -11:03
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epimethxushi: flaccid's right... seems like the backup has tables corresponding to this user but your mysql doesn't have it....11:04
xushiseriously, either help properly or stfu and let others hlep11:04
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xushiit's solved now11:04
epimethxushi: what was it?11:04
flaccidwas i right?11:04
xushiflaccid: no11:05
flaccidthen what was it11:05
xushii just said it,11:05
xushithe grant line, the username has a dash in it11:05
epimethoh11:05
xushidebian-sys-init11:05
xushiit didnt accept it11:05
xushiso i had to put that in single quotes11:05
epimethyou should always put in single quotes anyway11:05
flaccidgrant line of what?11:05
xushi....... to 'debian-sys-init'11:05
xushigrant line for that user11:05
flaccidin what?11:06
xushiin mysql11:06
xushihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=98467211:06
flaccidwhat is a grant line?11:06
flaccidlol11:06
petesejtepimeth: can you read my pvt messages? (I am not registered, and I got an  error message from IRC server...)11:06
xushithat link explains it11:06
flaccidyep so mysql issue :)11:07
flaccidincorrect user perms11:07
epimethpetesejt: sorry... can't... why don't you register?  you'll probably find yourself in here a lot at first and its a good idea to have a nick reserved for your use11:07
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xushithe user did not exist11:07
flaccidyou restored a different password for the user11:07
petesejtOk, I will register, but later.11:07
flaccidthat user doesn't come with ubuntu11:08
epimethxushi: like I said, user didn't exist :-p11:08
flaccidok then you restored the mysql database without that user...11:08
flaccidnot kubuntus fault thats for sure11:09
xushidude wtf is your problem ?11:09
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flaccidyou11:09
xushigo fuck yourself11:09
epimethxushi: language, mate11:09
flaccidi like to correct people that say i am wrong, when i am right. is there something wrong with that?11:09
xushidude, i ask a question, the only reponce i get fro you is "learn mysql or go to #mysql". that is not help ok, that's just offensive11:10
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epimethflaccid... he's right you know... you said "it's not that simple" but it was11:10
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epimethbut you're right in saying that it isn't a k/ubuntu problem11:11
raffytaffysudo e2fsck -p -v /dev/sda1    will this cause data loss on an external HD?11:11
dwbellcan anyone help me subscribe to rss feeds using firefox / akregator?11:11
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xushii gues i've been in #gentoo too long to expect GOOD answers and replies than this sh*t, appart from epimeth who'se been of great help11:11
flaccidif you look at the mysql manual. user management is not as simple as grant if you are creating a new user....11:11
epimethbut will both of you chill out before at least one of you gets kicked?11:11
flaccidhas nothing to do with me if you restore the mysql db11:12
ubuntuhi11:12
xushiflaccid,k you're on my ignore list.. sod it, i really am not going to sink as low as you are to continue this.. i'm not 12 years old here11:12
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xushithere are others here that deserve replies and ask for help11:12
epimethhi ubuntu!11:12
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flaccidxushi: i don't understand why you are acting like this. there is not tone on irc. i was simply advising the reason for your problem.11:12
epimethraffytaffy: not a clue11:12
raffytaffyty epimeth ...im runing it now hehe we shall see11:13
epimethheh... good luck11:13
flaccidand i have never said you were 12 years old thank you very much11:13
raffytaffy250 gigs to go:|11:13
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raffytaffyit tells me that the first block is bad. rest are fine. i hope this is not the end to this hard drive. its brand new11:14
epimeththen it'll still be under warrantee! yay! a new new drive!11:15
epimeth:-)11:15
flaccidyou can run smart scans on the hard disk to check its health11:15
raffytaffyits 1 month+ old from seagate11:15
flaccid!info smartmontools11:15
ubotusmartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB11:15
fadeyHi, everyone. I'm having a problem installing libsnmp-base on Feisty? I'm getting a "post-installation script returned error code 1"11:15
raffytaffyflaccid: cool11:15
flaccidfadey: pastebin the whole output11:15
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fadeyflaccid: console is non-english. doesn't say too much though.11:20
flaccidin that case,  would suggest searching launchpad for bugs with that package11:20
flaccidto see if they exist11:20
flaccidif there is not missing file or other issues then it could purely be a bug11:21
fadeythanks11:21
flaccidnp11:21
flaccid!bugs11:21
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots11:21
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Tm_Tflaccid: I'd say: too much info there11:24
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underdog5004whatever you do, do _not_ read stopmyabortion.blogspot.com11:24
flaccidyou don't like beer Tm_T?11:24
underdog5004sick, twisted, disgusting, immoral, etc...11:24
underdog5004g'night, again11:24
flaccidreverse marketing heh11:24
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underdog5004I'm serious!11:24
flaccid:p11:25
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Tm_Tflaccid: no, more like, we don't care, nor need that info11:25
flaccidthats fair enough11:26
flaccidhowever this is freenode11:26
flaccidi emphasise 'free' there11:26
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Tm_Tflaccid: however, if it goes to "ooh I'm so wasted" -> kickban11:27
flaccidwtf11:27
flaccidwhy would you assume that?11:27
Tm_Tno I don't assume11:27
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flaccidare you an op or something?11:27
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flaccidthen why did you say that?11:27
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Tm_T;)11:27
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flaccidi had operator privs?11:27
Tm_Tflaccid: I just have seen that way too much11:27
Tm_Tflaccid: no you didn't11:28
flaccidwell guess what im not every other user you have seen11:28
flaccidi don't like being judged11:28
flaccidits weird coz my client said this: [2007-05-02 19:27]  *** Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from you.11:28
Tm_Tflaccid: well, I did remove it, though you never had it ;)11:28
flaccidand what point did that make?11:29
Tm_Tand I don't judge, just tell you where my limits goes11:29
Tm_Tfun?11:29
flaccidhi Tm_T, i'm a user that spends 20+ hours a week here helping users, how are you today?11:29
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flaccidone could term my innocent /me drinking beer as fun11:30
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flaccidbut i dont' abuse my non-existant op privs..11:31
Tm_Tflaccid: aww <311:32
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Tm_Tepimeth <311:33
flaccidwould you like to introduce yourself, Tm_T?11:33
flaccidsince i have done such a pleasantry11:33
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Tm_Tflaccid: let's see, I'm irc op, used ~14 hours a day in irc help or related, err, and other devel stuff I guess11:34
xavitoHey guys, from a moment to another my sound stopped working and Kmix says "Mixer cannot be found" what happened ?11:34
epimethseriously mate... you're kind of annoying today.  I've seen you around before and didn't have a problem, but I gotta say my hackles are rising here11:34
Tm_Tepimeth: it's ok11:34
flaccidTm_T: what is your association with kubuntu then?11:35
Tm_Tflaccid: hmm, someone says I'm kubuntu devel, though I consider myself just active11:35
flaccidfair enough11:35
flaccidepimeth: don't highten things that don't need to be11:35
Tm_Tflaccid: and btw I have nothing against you :)11:35
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flaccidTm_T: neither do i sir :)11:36
Tm_T<311:36
flaccidi don't see the point in fighting11:36
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flaccidit is nice to speak to an op in this channel considering i've been here for nearly 2 years helping11:36
epimethheh11:36
flaccidits a rare occasion..11:36
Tm_Tflaccid: and to make sure, whenever you disagree with me or other ops here, feel free to poke us in #ubuntu-ops11:36
epimethyou've probably spoken to them a number of times without noticing :-)11:37
flaccidTm_T: fair enough. i'll keep that in mind11:37
Tm_Tflaccid: and I've been here ~2 years too ;)11:37
epimethfirst time jucato put on his op mask I was like "whoa!"11:37
flaccidum yeah i don't know who the ops are obviously.. i just know who the good helpers are11:37
flaccidme and jucy are 'mates' but i only know a few other people that are regular actual helpers here11:38
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Tm_Tflaccid: uh, count me out ;)11:38
flaccidcount you out of what exactly11:38
xmarttest11:38
xmartoha11:38
flaccidhello world!11:38
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raffytaffy_epimeth- after runing that command. i got the output of - 0 bad blocks..some non-contigous files. and a missing lost&found which was created. now the HD mounts via fstab11:39
raffytaffy_i hope its fixed hmm11:39
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berkesdoes anyone know if there is a gui tool in KDE for managing etc/hosts?11:39
epimeththanks for the info.... but I didn't tell you to do anything?11:39
flaccidsounds quite positive to me. raffytaffy_ do some smart scans to verify physical health of drive if you want to11:39
epimethraffytaffy_: ^11:39
raffytaffy_i just figured it tell u since u answered my question earlier11:40
epimethberkes: yea... kate :-)11:40
flaccidberkes: i don't know of any abstracted guis, but of course there is kate/kwrite to open it in11:40
Tm_Tflaccid: from "good helpers", I've been quite inactive11:40
epimethraffytaffy_: kay :-)  congrats on the not killing your HD! :-)11:40
raffytaffy_ty ty "takes a bow hehe"11:41
berkesyea, epimeth, flaccid, I use sudo vim now, but this is for a client who wants to streamline some of his work.11:41
epimethTm_T: thats not true... you've helped me out before11:41
flaccidTm_T: oh ok. i guess i help here enough to know the 10 most frequent issues so to speak11:41
baskitcaiseraffytaffy_: segate do a commendline set of tools for linux11:41
epimethberkes: so yea... dunno if there's anything... just make a link to kdesu kate /etc/hosts on his desktop11:41
baskitcaises/seagate/segate11:42
raffytaffy_baskitcaise: is this a program in apt-get?11:42
flaccidberkes: kdesu kate /etc/hosts or of course a script or binary or whatever could read/write access the file11:42
baskitcaiseraffytaffy_: nah, you have to go to the seagate site11:42
raffytaffy_cool baskitcaise ty11:42
baskitcaiseraffytaffy_: was just a thought if you have more probs11:43
berkesflaccid: sure, but I was hoping more for something that allows configuration on a level of SuSEs apache tools and so.11:43
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ouanetwohello !11:44
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flaccidberkes: the reason it hasn't been made i because its not required. /etc/hosts is is a simple name/value pair separated by a cf/lr11:44
epimethberkes: its just a hosts list... not even windows has a gui for that11:44
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ouanetwoplantage systematique du client IRC sous Firefox (2.0.0.3) sous dapper ?11:45
andrea_ciao11:45
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flaccidberkes: the data structure of the config file is vasty different and primitive in comparison to apache11:45
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flaccidim sure suse doesn't have a frontend to /etc/hosts :)11:47
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flaccidepimeth: i think i echo you a lot tonight :;11:48
epimethflaccid: I don't mind... as long as its not the other way around :-)11:48
flaccidhaha11:48
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jeroen__Hi all can someone help me i tried to install the latest java but i couldnt get it to work can somone help me with a terminal command or something?11:49
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epimethew...11:49
flaccid!java11:49
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:49
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epimethjeroen__: what did you do, exactly?11:49
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flaccidepimeth: mojo in the sense of the actual word11:49
berkesflaccid: afaik it does not have one no. I was just hoping something was around. its simple yes, but hard to maintain manually in text editor once you grow over a few hundred of domains. Yes, I know I should move to bind9 and all. i'm just looking for simple solutions :)11:49
ouanetwoClient IRC d'ubuntu (dapper) sous firefox (2.0.0.3) qui plante avec une version de java "1.5.0_06" - merci pour vos idees11:50
flaccidberkes: if you are having problems editing it in kate or another gui text editor then sadly thats your problem :(11:50
flaccid!fr11:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:51
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jeroen__epimeth i installed the latest java and installed it on mydesctop making a dir first and then install due i couldnt copy it to usr/11:52
flaccid/usr is not the right place11:53
epimethwhy didn't you install using apt-get or adept?11:53
flaccidman heir :)11:53
jeroen__i use still dapper11:53
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epimethand java6 is not in the repository for dapper? hmm...11:54
epimethwell lets take a look at what sun has to say11:54
jeroen__i tried to install the selfunpacking java11:54
xavitoHey guys, from a moment to another my sound stopped working and Kmix says "Mixer cannot be found" what happened ?11:54
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jeroen__epimeth i really tried alot i tried to install it on local too11:54
raffytaffy_baskitcaise: any idea if the HD needs to be unmounted to use this seagate tool. ( i have it ready to go)11:55
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baskitcaiseraffytaffy_: sorry long time since I used them not sure now11:56
epimethjeroen__: Java SE?11:56
raffytaffy_ahh ok ty thou. this seems like a handy tool11:56
berkesflaccid: don't get rude. And its not my problem. If you read what I said above: its to improve the overall experience for a client.11:56
flaccidberkes: you don't expose clients to /etc/hosts . like you said you use DNS.11:56
flaccidim not being rude btw11:56
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jeroen__epimeth: i have no clue i still have java webstart 1.411:57
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jeroen__i try and did everything they said on the java site and chmod and stuff11:58
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jaaroohello there. Does anyone know where linux cryptographic api headers can be found? I don't even have /usr/include/linux/crypto/ and don't know which package I should I install.11:58
epimethand it still isn't working?11:59
oyvindwhy is there no theme on kubuntu when i start beryl?11:59
jeroen__epimeth:  i just want java so i can run frostwire and go to chat sites who have upgrate their java :s12:00
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epimethjeroen__: lets see what I can do for you :-)12:01
jeroen__epimeth:  thank you:D12:02
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dettoaltrimenti_jeroen__ : do you have j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin? you should be able to get it through adept or apt-get12:03
jeroen__epimeth:  i did get my dvd player working and my new tft screen :d12:03
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jeroen__i think not dettoaltrimenti:12:04
dettoaltrimenti_jeroen__ : install that, and java should work12:04
jeroen__i use apt-get12:04
toydjeroen such a funny nick12:05
dettoaltrimenti_jeroen__ : sudo apt-get j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin12:05
jeroen__lol toyd its my name:d12:05
toydjer oentje :o12:05
toyd;D12:05
jeroen__dettoaltrimenti_: it does something:d12:05
dettoaltrimenti_it does something?12:06
epimethlol12:06
jeroen__its installing or so:d12:06
epimeththats a good response12:06
toydhow come no good soccerplayer ever named jeroen jeroen__12:06
dettoaltrimenti_heh ok see if that works12:06
flaccidjaaroo: did you try openssl dev/devel packages?12:06
toyd"o{12:06
toyd,("o)> SEGA12:06
jeroen__toyd i have no clue i dont like soccer:p12:07
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toydLIES12:07
jeroen__;'(12:08
toydor maybe true you think of yourself as intelligent so you ignore all the pleasures us simple folks have and even use stuff we simple folks made and use it to make even more profit12:08
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toyd;p12:08
epimethwhoa12:08
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jeroen__<shakes head>12:09
epimethjeroen__: so? did dettoaltrimenti_ 's suggestion work?12:09
toydlinux is great12:09
jeroen__not quite12:09
toydto bad its only a kernel ;p12:09
jeroen__i get a kross in the left chat apelet12:10
epimethdoes it say what version of java is required to use it?12:10
dettoaltrimenti_jeroen__ did you restart firefox12:10
epimethdettoaltrimenti_: maybe he needs 5?  5 is in the repo for him, 6 isn't.12:11
jeroen__dettoaltrimenti_: yup12:11
flaccidtoyd: bsd *cough* :)12:11
Neil-anyone know a vrml viewer for ubuntu? pref. with a mozilla/firefox plugin..12:12
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toydflaccid: what about #nix12:12
epimethjeroen__: try $sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk12:12
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flaccidtoyd: thats a channel, not an OS :p12:12
toydok i need a torrent client for kubuntu where can i get one12:13
epimethktorrent12:13
flaccidfrom the repos, toyd12:13
epimethits already iunstalled12:13
toydis rtorrent any good?12:13
epimethrtorrent is command line12:13
=== toyd oinks
epimethand yes12:13
toyd:P12:13
jeroen__epimeth: ok12:13
dettoaltrimenti_toyd: sudo apt-get install ktorrent12:13
toydk thanks12:13
epimethjeroen__: lemme know when thats done12:14
flaccida prefer azureus but its always had some kind of issues on ubuntu versions12:14
dettoaltrimenti_toyd: rtorrent is great, but it's a CLI12:14
toydok i see12:14
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jeroen__epimeth: ok i will12:14
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bumzohi...12:17
bumzoI need hel with RAW partition12:17
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bumzohelp12:18
jeroen__epimeth: its done i get a config thing12:18
toyd!automatix12:19
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:19
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nathanhey12:19
nathani have installed beryl how do i turn it on?12:19
flaccidthos automatix guys must be doing some long thinking12:19
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nathan1i have installed beryl how do i turn it on?12:20
jussi01how do I change the default font in open office?12:20
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nathan1lol12:20
epimethjeroen__: you get a config thing?  whats it asking?12:20
jeroen__licence and stuff12:21
jussi01nathan1: alt+f2 -> type beryl manager12:21
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jeroen__i said yes12:21
jeroen__its done now12:21
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epimethjeroen__: okay12:21
epimethjeroen__: now run update-java-alternatives -l12:21
epimeththats a dash el at the end12:21
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bumzo!RAW12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
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jeroen__epimeth: ok and then12:22
jeroen__it tells me where java is installed?12:22
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adriana10aguien me pasa el canal de ubuntu en espaol?12:23
nathan1aha cool thanks beryl rules12:23
epimethjeroen__: what does it show you?12:23
epimeth!es > adriana1012:23
Jucato!es | adriana1012:23
ubotuadriana10: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:23
tdnAre there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?12:23
jeroen__epimeth: java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun12:24
adriana10gracias12:24
epimethadriana10: de nada12:24
epimethjeroen__: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun12:24
epimethand show me the contents of /etc/jvm12:25
jeroen__epimeth: ok done12:25
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flaccidme loco Jucato12:25
flaccid:p12:25
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jeroen__epimeth:12:26
jeroen__Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/unpack200' to provide `unpack200'.12:26
jeroen__No alternatives for firefox-javaplugin.so.12:26
jeroen__No alternatives for mozilla-javaplugin.so.12:26
jeroen__No alternatives for mozilla-snapshot-javaplugin.so.12:26
flaccidcool Jucato, but you know spanish so me loco!12:26
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Jucatoflaccid: nope I don't...12:27
Jucato!paste | jeroen__12:27
ubotujeroen__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:27
jeroen__:o12:27
jeroen__:s12:27
flaccidJucato: you seem pretty good at it br0 sometimes12:27
JucatoI am? :O12:28
flaccidyeah damn straight12:28
flaccidyou can pass for a hispanic fillo any day :p12:28
xavitoIs there a comand to build my system again ?12:28
epimethai... dios mio12:28
Jucatoxavito: what do you mean by build it again?12:28
jeroen__ai ai ai12:29
jeroen__mille gratias epimeth ;)12:29
xavitoJucato: just like install everything again, but with the programs I modified and keeping the configurations...12:29
epimethjeroen__: now sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin12:29
Jucatoah hm...12:29
jeroen__epimeth: ok done12:30
Jucatoif you have your /home directory on a different partition, that should do (part of) the trick12:30
epimethparada el mundu, quiero bajar!12:30
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epimethjeroen__: restart firefox...12:30
xavitoJucato, I do have my /home directory in another partition, but there's software that I installed and doesen't come in the installation CD...12:30
jeroen__ok epimeth12:31
epimethjeroen__: and meanwhile execute java --version12:31
xavitoJucato, have to go... Bye12:31
Jucatoxavito: ah..12:32
Jucatoby12:32
epimethJucato: it's okay, you still get karma points for trying to help...12:32
epimeth:-)12:32
Jucato+e12:32
flaccid+f12:32
Jucatowell, I sort of have an idea of what to do, but I don't know how reliable it is anyway12:32
flaccid(for flaccid)12:32
jeroen__epimeth:  unrecognized option12:33
epimethwhups12:33
epimethjava -version12:33
Jucatohm... you had him install sun-java5?12:33
epimethyup12:33
Jucato(must be on Dapper, then)12:33
epimethyup :-012:33
jeroen__epimeth:12:33
jeroen__Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)12:33
jeroen__Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)12:33
epimeth:-)12:33
epimethperfect12:34
Jucatohm...12:34
Jucato!info sun-java6-plugin dapper-backports12:34
ubotusun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB12:34
Jucato:P12:34
epimethACK?!?12:34
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jeroen__so epimeth is it ok now?12:34
=== epimeth didn't see anything about it in help.ubuntu.com/community search: java
epimethjeroen__: should be :-)12:35
Jucato:D12:35
jeroen__ok i will try12:35
epimethjeroen__: if not we'll install java612:35
epimethlol12:35
jeroen__thank u epimeth till so far12:35
Jucatoheheh12:35
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Jucatotoo bad my legs aren't under the table :P12:36
epimethd'oh12:36
flaccidhaha12:36
epimethhttp://sun.java.com12:36
epimethclick it!12:36
epimethyou know you waaaant to12:36
epimethdo it!12:36
JucatoI meant programming :)12:36
Jucato:P12:36
Jucatothough I'm barely 1/4 through with my C++ book... so that "one day" might actually be "end of the year"12:37
Jucato(if not "end of the world")12:37
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epimethmeh... syntactically its similar enough that you won't have a problem after C++12:39
Jucatoit's the "after C++" that's the problem :)12:40
Jucatooh well12:40
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flaccidi have no idea what to eat for dinner12:40
dromerhmmm, I had this with X-forwarding this afternoon, but now that I'm home I'm still not able to open firefox, I get a Xlib: connection refused by server12:41
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Jucatobon apetit!12:41
epimethhay!12:42
epimeththats just not nice12:42
flaccidhes too tough12:42
epimeththats cuz I eat a lot of meat12:42
epimethnya nya12:42
epimethwhat you want is a herbavore12:42
epimeththose taste muuuch better12:42
flaccidthats true12:43
flaccidjust like coal!12:43
epimethanybody here a vegan?12:43
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epimethyes12:43
CVirusanybody here a Kubuntu user ?12:43
epimethjust like coal12:43
CVirusepimeth: get on topic please12:43
dromerhmm, I also get the error when trying to open Amarok :S12:43
jjj__most of here are kubuntu user...12:43
dromercan someone guide me in finding out the ploblem?12:44
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flaccid!ask12:44
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:44
CVirusflaccid: he stated his problem already12:44
flaccidsorry what was it specifically12:44
adriana10si lo tengo en el escritorio lo pongo /home/adriana10/Desktop/dpkg -i amsn_0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb12:45
flaccidcan i ask what engo means in spanish ?12:45
flaccidtengo12:45
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Jucato"have" (methinks)12:46
flaccidok12:46
adriana10perdon era para el de espaol12:47
Jucato!es | adriana1012:47
ubotuadriana10: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:47
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Nino_1 12:53
Ginja_Ninjahello, can someone point me in the direction of the flash install guide for 64bit platform , i cant find it for some reason. Thanks12:54
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flaccidGinja_Ninja: ask adobe12:58
Ginja_Ninjalol12:58
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drknshello fellas01:01
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drknsI need help with partitioning01:01
drknsi would like to install kubuntu on my laptop01:01
drknsi have two IDE hdds 60gb 7200rpm each01:01
drknshow should i partition so that i can use both right from the start01:02
drknsi would like to use one to install kubuntu on and have home folder and i would like to set the secon one as home-2 and use it as a file storage01:03
drknsany help will be appreciated01:03
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drknshow big a patiti01:05
drknson should root has01:05
drkns?01:05
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zirxxall: hi01:05
drknsnoone?01:05
dromerwhen using beryl, how can I make certain pragrams appear on specific viewports when starting up?01:06
drknshi01:06
drknspeople are sleepin here01:06
drknsc yall laters01:06
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dromerdrkns: what do you mean with home-2 ?01:07
flaccidbbl01:07
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roflhi01:08
rofli need help01:08
rofli cant connect to internet on my kubuntu 7.0401:08
dromerwhat kind of cennoction do you have rofl ?01:08
dromerconnection*01:08
roflhow to troubleshoot?01:08
dromerdo you use a proxy for internet?01:09
dromeror do you use dhcp?01:09
rofli connect to a broadband01:09
roflmodem-router01:09
roflyeah i use proxy01:09
dromerI only have experience with the latter so I can't help you that well, maybe if you state yoru situation more specific ..01:09
dromerdo you know the proxy-settings you should use?01:09
roflhmm im not sure01:10
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dromerwhat are you on right now?01:10
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roflbtw in xp.. i set the dns and alternate dns01:10
tdnAre there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?01:11
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rofli set the same thing to kubuntu01:11
roflbut it didnt work01:11
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xushisilly question, but, any tutorials on how to resize my resolution ? it gives me only a max of 1024x760, and it's a 19'' widescreen which supports WAY more than that01:17
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Hobbsee!resolution | xushi01:18
ubotuxushi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:18
xushita01:19
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raffytaffy_xushi-> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  -> scroll down to monitors and plug in your values / restart xserver01:20
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xushitime to find out my values01:20
raffytaffy_in this format xushi -> "1280x800" etc etc01:20
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Filthpigdoes anyone know anything about KVM in here?01:26
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xushithanks raffytaffy_01:26
FilthpigI get no answer over at #kvm :S01:26
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savetheWorldDoes anyone know where iptables-save info needs to go for resumption after reboot?01:36
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tdnAre there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?01:38
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martalliHow can I find my pilot?  I have kpilot installed and the treo connected to the computer, but there is no /dev/pilot01:59
martalliAlso, /dev/bus/usb/001 etc does not work either01:59
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martalliHello, I can't find my pilot device...After connecting it, I have no /dev/pilot.  /dev/bus/usb/001 and so on are not workin02:02
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jussi01martalli: its pretty dead in here as you can see, if you need it in a hurry, try #ubuntu they may be able to help02:03
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markccan anyone suggest a JACK based mp3 player ?02:08
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ejupinHow do I get a link in Thunderbird to open in Firefox? I thought I had everything set...02:11
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Linux_Galoreejupin: copy it and then just open firefox and click your middle button on the mouse02:15
Linux_Galoreejupin: or just setup thunderbird to default to firefox02:15
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ejupinLinux_Galore: your second option is what I am looking to do.. I thought I already had it defaulted that way.02:16
Jucatoejupin: I think Thunderbird has its own settings for which browser to use02:16
Jucatoejupin: you can also use this command to set the default browser for *all* graphical apps, regardless of KDE, GNOME, or GTK app: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser02:17
ejupinJucato: thanks02:17
Linux_GaloreJucato: have ti remember that one02:17
Linux_Galoreto*02:18
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ejupinJucato: good tip thanks, I just did it.02:19
Jucato:)02:19
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Linux_Galorebetter not praise Jucato too much his head barely fits in the channel as it is02:30
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flaccidhaha02:30
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|ericsson|rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8] 02:34
|ericsson|Anyone had that problem before?02:35
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|ericsson|*sniff* I need help with a server backup due to compromised system, anyone care to venture a guess and help me?02:38
flaccidget a sysadmin/network engineer?02:40
|ericsson|flaccid: that would be me :)02:40
flaccidso what is the problem?02:40
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|ericsson|flaccid: yesterday evening the backup server was compromised, now I'm re-configured a new server and I need to transfer data from old.backup.server, to new.backup.server02:41
flacciddefine data02:41
|ericsson|flaccid: I can transfer through SSH with rsync from new.server to old.server, but not the other way...02:42
Linux_Galorejermain_: I just use a big ased tarball and a script to create a new image02:42
|ericsson|flaccid: mostly mysqldumps, some flatfiles and tons of images02:42
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flaccidsounds like a mess. can't help sorry.02:43
Linux_Galorelol, sounds like work02:43
|ericsson|Linux_Galore: You got that right ;)02:43
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|ericsson|Problem is that I get the: rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8]  every time I try to transfer from old.server, to new.server...but other way is no problem02:44
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flaccidwe don't generally rescue hacked systems here for free02:44
Linux_Galore|ericsson|: this is why I have a simple backup setup for my servers02:44
flaccidoh sorry im not good at rsync02:44
|ericsson|flaccid: don't need help to rescue it, just need the backup to work ;)02:44
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|ericsson|Linux_Galore: I would prefer a simply way to do it, but it needs to go through SSH02:45
Linux_Galore|ericsson|: if its a proper backup you just unpack the dam thing02:45
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|ericsson|Linux_Galore: It is a proper backup, our beloved tar. But I need to get it to the new machine through SSH again :)02:46
Linux_Galore|ericsson|: boot the system up of a cd turn the ssh-server on and then mount up the partition, copy the tarballs over and unpack them02:46
flaccidhire a engineer.02:47
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Linux_Galore|ericsson|: do you have physical access to the machine ?02:47
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|ericsson|flaccid: I doubt the need for an engineer would be needed, the fact is that this is a bug on macos, don't know if it's on (k)ubuntu though..02:47
xushikubuntu keeps freezing... is there anyway to find out what the cause is? i thought it was my nvidia drivers, but i removed them and it still happens02:47
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Linux_Galorexushi: at what point does it freez02:48
|ericsson|Linux_Galore: Yes02:48
flaccidum goto ##mac . not #kubuntu02:48
Bluetoothhi all02:48
Bluetoothhave problem with Kaffeine02:48
xushiLinux_Galore: randomly.. this time when i started installing Zend. last time when i was running Kate. The time before when i was doing nothing02:48
Bluetoothshows mess02:48
Bluetoothhttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2240/snapshot4oq2.png02:48
Linux_Galore|ericsson|: if you have phyical access then i cant see what the issue is, just use one of the many recovery admin cd's running around boot the machine up and the rest is easy02:49
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Linux_GaloreBluetooth: looks like a codec problem02:49
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Bluetoothany idea how to fix?02:50
|ericsson|flaccid: Since I have not established if this is a persistent bug in (k)ubuntu, there would hardly be any point for me to sit in a mac forum and waste time, would it? I am sure that someone is able to perform proper rsync backups through SSH without errors on *nix02:50
Linux_GaloreBluetooth: install the correct codec02:50
Bluetoothbut it's an MPEG file02:50
|ericsson|Linux_Galore: Problem is that I need this up and running so that we can perform our system-wide backups again..02:50
Linux_GaloreBluetooth: install xine-extracodecs02:50
flaccidyou have nothing to tie to kubuntu............02:50
flaccidno specific error, nothing02:51
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xushiI need to generate 100% cpu usage to see if it overheats or not.. is there an easy way ?02:52
Bluetoothapt-get could find such package02:52
flaccidmefisto not sure02:52
insmodany fix for shuting down an acer laptop? works sometimes and not others02:52
Bluetoothwhich depo is this package in?02:52
Linux_GaloreBluetooth: .mov doesn't necessarily mean its mpeg02:52
Bluetoothi c02:52
Bluetoothso where do I get that xine-extracodecs02:53
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llutzhi02:53
Toomassudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs02:53
Linux_GaloreBluetooth: look in adept it should be there if you have enabled universe02:53
Bluetoothok02:53
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xushiit just froze again, while i'm using adept manager02:54
ToomasI would recommend adding plf repository too02:54
Toomasdeb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free02:54
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Toomasand install w32codecs02:54
flaccidbbl02:54
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xushithis is very serious.. i cannot deploy this in my company if it freezes like that.. is there anyway to find out why or what's causing it ?02:54
Linux_Galore!codecs02:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:54
emonkey-pToomas: why not medibuntu?02:55
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emonkey-pToomas: sorry my fault02:55
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Linux_Galorexushi: eer your deploying Linux in a enterprise company and you dont know how to read a log ??02:55
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MenaIs there a secure Ftp app for linux02:56
xushiI'm deploying linux on my desktop, of which, when sucesfull, will extend throughout the company.02:56
xushiI know how to read a log.. but which ? i mean it freezes on me02:56
BluetoothI have universe enabled but could fine xine-extracodecs in list02:56
Bluetoothstrange02:56
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Linux_Galorexushi: well read the main log first02:56
JucatoBluetooth: you need multiverse for that02:56
Linux_Galorexushi: so it only crashes with adept ?02:56
xushiLinux_Galore: if i reboot, wont it be overwritten, or wont i lose the informatio i need ?02:56
JucatoBluetooth: are you Edgy or Feisty?02:56
xushiLinux_Galore: no, randomly02:56
Bluetoothfiesty02:56
Linux_Galorexushi: no02:56
JucatoBluetooth: ah then you don't need to enable any repositories. libxine-extracodecs02:57
xushifreezes randomly. sometimes when i'm doing nothing02:57
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JucatoBluetooth: or install libxine1-ffmpeg (same thing)02:57
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Linux_Galorexushi: yeah, read the logs under /var/logs   ie syslog is a good start02:58
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Bluetoothguys, I have libxine-extracodecs02:59
Bluetoothinstalled02:59
Bluetoothbut it shows mess anyway02:59
Linux_Galorexushi: also login without the X server running and see if it freezes02:59
Linux_Galorexushi: after a while02:59
Mena!ftp02:59
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd02:59
Linux_Galorexushi: if not then its something to do with the desktop enviroment02:59
Mena!FTPd02:59
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xushiwill check them out now02:59
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bonaldo2000I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?02:59
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Jucatothat was some lag on my end :(02:59
Menawhat is the best app her02:59
Menahere*02:59
Bluetoothlibxine1-ffmpeg is installed as well02:59
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Linux_GaloreBluetooth: could be a bad file, I get that every now and again or a locked file that needs a key02:59
Mena !KcmPureftpd02:59
Bluetoothno it's a normal file03:00
Bluetoothshowed fine before upgrade03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kcmpureftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
|ericsson|If I remove /.ssh/known_hosts, would it create new fingerprints for me then?03:00
xushiLinux_Galore: for this situation, would i go for syslog, or syslog.0 ?03:00
nanahi03:00
Linux_GaloreBluetooth: I recompile ffmpeg because Ubuntu has a few things disabled03:00
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Linux_Galorexushi: syslog will do03:00
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phoxyjoin #fortran03:01
Linux_Galorexushi: ie  head -20 /var/log/syslog03:01
bonaldo2000actually it is able to open konsole on the tv-desktop..if I have that one as the active deskto...any help..please?03:02
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BluetoothI c03:02
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xushiLinux_Galore: sanitize start ... sanitize end.. etc.. This sounds bad, right ? :)03:02
xushilet me paste03:02
|ericsson|!pastebin03:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:03
Linux_Galorexushi: try tail /var/log/syslog  sorry03:03
xushihttp://pastebin.ca/46729003:04
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MenaWhere to validate jave on opera03:05
Menajava*03:05
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andrehi...03:06
xushifound anything uesful? it doesn't really make sense to me03:07
andrei have to install the codec for amarok in ubuntu...can someone help me?..03:07
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Jucatoandre: install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"03:07
bonaldo2000any help??03:07
Bluetoothby the way is it possible to have compiz or beryl on kubuntu?03:07
JucatoBluetooth:03:08
Jucatoyes03:08
phoxycan anyon ehelp with a fortran problem?03:08
ubunturosBluetooth: for versions > 6.10 I guess03:08
Linux_Galore!codecs03:08
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Bluetoothwhat about fiesty?03:08
Linux_Galoreandre: ^03:08
JucatoBluetooth: see the topics in #ubuntu-effects03:08
JucatoBluetooth: Edgy or Feisty will do03:09
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Bluetoothok03:09
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BluetoothJucato does compiz require metacity?03:11
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Jucatono03:11
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JucatoBluetooth: compiz is a window manager itself03:12
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Jucatoso it will replace metacity or kwin. beryl is also a window manager03:12
Bluetoothshit I have mess on screen when tried to use compiz03:12
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|ericsson|If anyone is interested, here is my backup problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18789/03:13
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roel_hello how can i install java runtime on Kubuntu. Which repositories are needed to find packagessun-java6-jre and alike?03:14
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Jucatoroel_: they are in multiverse. if you are on feisty, multiverse is already enabled03:15
roel_yes but aptitude search can't find them03:15
roel_i'm using feisty03:15
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Jucatosun-java6-bin or sun-java6-jre ?03:15
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roel_sun-java6-jre03:15
Jucatohm... strange. well, just double check your sources.list to see if you have multiverse enabled03:16
phoxyis there a difference between using aptitude and apt-get?03:16
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malik__how do i add "torrentspy" website to the ktorrents serach engines list?........instructions on ktorrents manual are not working.....any i dea?03:16
Jucatonot a big difference... but one has some features the other doesn't03:16
roel_Jucato: isn't this the lines for multiverse?03:17
roel_deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:17
roel_deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:17
phoxyin most of the code snippets they say apt-get, rather than aptitude03:17
Jucatoroel_: no. those are all for feisty-backports03:17
Jucatophoxy: apt-get is the most common and most famous03:17
phoxyI thought that aptitude was a superset of apt-get03:17
roel_can you give met the multiverse lines?03:17
Jucatophoxy: might want to read on this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude03:17
phoxyand more recent03:17
Jucatoroel_: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse03:18
roel_k thnx03:18
Jucatoif you have a fresh install of feisty, it should already be enabled...03:18
|ericsson|and now I get: rsync: mkstemp "/home/administrator/.server_backup.tgz.J9wnSF" failed: Permission denied (13)03:18
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roel_Jucato: i have an update edgy to feisty03:18
roel_maybe something went wrong03:18
Jucatoaah... that would probably explain it03:18
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Jucatoroel_: you can use Adept Manager to easily add/enable the multiverse repo, or do it the old fashioned way03:19
roel_k i'm gonna try to install jre03:19
roel_I did it the old fasion way :p03:19
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boubbinhow to move kooldock to a different location, the default location just sucks.03:21
BlackBsdif i have alot of OS's installed on my pc, can i still use the desktop installer disk to install kubuntu on a spare partition.03:21
LynoureYes, the number of OSes does not matter03:21
BlackBsdor would i need the alternate cd?03:22
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BlackBsddoes it give me the optionto choose what partiton to use as /, /boot/ /usr?03:22
Jucatoyes03:22
Mena!03:22
Mena!FTP03:22
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BlackBsdcan i use the alternate cd to install from an already running linux system?03:23
roel_you will have to boot from the cd i think BlackBsd03:24
BlackBsdthank you.03:24
reffus!SSH03:24
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reffus!SSHD03:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:25
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reffus!openssh03:25
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BlackBsdsshd is the ssh server.03:25
BlackBsdit allows for secure remote login to another pc03:25
nanahow can i setup a web server on kubuntu03:25
reffuswebmin is a good helper nana03:25
nanaok03:25
reffuslook up the LAMP howto on ubuntu forums03:26
roel_thnx Jucato. Everything works now. Thnx!!03:26
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BlackBsdnana there is also a gui software package manager, synapitc (i think)03:26
Jucatoroel_: kool. you're welcome03:27
nanawhare can i find it/03:27
Jucatoreffus: unfortunately, webmin is no longer supported03:27
Jucato!webmin03:27
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.03:27
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nanaok03:27
BlackBsdapache.03:27
BlackBsdapache203:27
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reffusisnt it?03:28
reffus:O03:28
reffusI really liked that program :(03:28
Jucatowell, at least not "officially" on Debian and Ubuntu03:28
reffusJucato: Is there another one like it?03:28
nanah  i have  install apache03:28
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reffus:<03:29
roel_exit03:29
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BluesKajHowdy all :)03:30
reffushi03:30
nanahi03:30
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reffusJucato: Do you know why it isn't supported any longer?03:30
Jucatoreffus: nope...03:31
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nanahow can i use synapitc03:31
reffusJucato: ok, thanks anyway :)03:31
phoxyIs there an advantage to Synaptic over Adept, or the other way around?  I know that one is for Gnome and the other for Kubuntu03:32
phoxyKDE03:32
BluesKajktorrent is really unstable in this latest version on feisty . I really don't want to switch because it has been so reliable in the past but there doesn't seem to be a fix for it yet on the forums. Anyone hear anything about fixing this prob03:33
BluesKaj?03:33
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nanahow can i install synapitc on kubuntu?03:34
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nanahow can i install synapitc on kubuntu?03:34
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kalorin`use synaptic03:34
kalorin`or apt-get03:34
Jucatonana: from either Add/Remove Programs or Adept03:35
kalorin`or adept03:35
Jucatokalorin`: how can he install synaptic using synaptic? ;)03:35
BluesKajor aptitude :)03:35
kalorin`or dpkg -i if you go get the .debs03:35
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thomas_how do i use beryl?:P03:36
BlackBsdbesides kubuntu having kde, does it have other packages than ubuntu?03:37
BlackBsdbecaue the regular iso images for ubuntu is larger then kubuntu03:37
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BluesKajJucato: I have ntfs-3g installed ..I can copy from the windows partition while on linux but not from kubuntu to windows. I have the shares & permissions turned on  ... any suggestions ?03:38
reffuschmod 777 on the mountfolder?03:39
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BluesKajreffus: ?03:40
GamicBluesKaj: Make sure that its using ntfs-3g.03:41
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BluesKajGamic: how is that confirmed03:42
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GamicBlueskaj: Have a look at this. http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html03:44
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nanahow i install a web server on kubuntu?03:45
Gamicnana: sudo apt-get install apache203:46
nanai have install apache203:47
GamicThen you have a web server installed, open a web broweser and enter "http://localhost/" into it03:47
Gamicand you should see... something03:47
reffusThe "its working sign"03:47
nanayes03:48
reffusPut up whatever you'd like in /var/www03:48
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nanahow can i d dat    reffus03:49
weswh-how can I make sure I have the latest nvidia driver? I am trying to setup 'twinview' - is there a GUI for it, or is it all command line tools?03:49
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weswh-I tried running nvidia-configx, not found...03:49
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reffusnana: in the terminal: sudo cp afile /var/www/03:49
nanaok 1min03:50
reffusthen you'll have copied that file in your "webserver folder" or how to put it..03:50
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nanayes03:50
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|StOnE|i need to activate beryl in kubuntu?03:51
nanahow to copy a file into my web server?03:51
[GuS] Hello!03:51
Daisuke_Ido|StOnE|: that wasn't even a question.03:52
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Daisuke_Idonana: cp whatever /var/www03:52
Daisuke_Idoas he said03:52
|StOnE|i dont know  how03:52
Leon_!grub03:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:52
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nanathanx03:54
nanait work03:54
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Leon_anyone know how to change what deafultly boots when your pc loads?03:56
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kgxanyone around? how can i capture something to a file and at the same time let it display on the screen?03:58
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kgxsay something like: ./myscript > test.log03:58
kgxbut i want it to output to screen as well03:58
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freak10336how is everyone03:59
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Artstewcan someone tell me how to install kde?04:02
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LynoureArtstew: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop   is enough, I think04:03
GamicAye, that should be everything that's needed04:03
Artstewoh is that all?04:03
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reffusi think so too04:03
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Gamickubuntu-desktop will install everything to make ubunutu kubuntu04:03
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jesusiyo#kubuntu-es04:06
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BluesKajgents , just for your info , this little tool :  http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/  ..does the trick for solving the permission prob of writing to the ntfs partition in feisty04:08
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jesusiyohow open source.list04:09
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BluesKajnope it's a debpkg04:09
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ForgeAuswith sudo04:09
ForgeAusor kdesu04:09
ForgeAus(depending on if its a gui app or not04:09
jesusiyotell me the comand please04:09
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ForgeAusie kdesu kate /var/apt/sources.list04:09
ForgeAusor sudo nano /var/apt/sources.list04:10
lynxo!wireless04:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:10
ForgeAusassuming I got the path/filename right04:10
|StOnE|!beryl04:10
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:10
jesusiyocommand not found04:10
BluesKajor "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"04:10
JohnFlux!debdiff04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debdiff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
ForgeAusahh yes... bluesKaj is more likely right04:11
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jesusiyothank you very much04:11
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reffusI ran "killall sshd" howto start it again?04:11
ForgeAusits var/cache and etc/apt... very confusing sometimes...04:11
LjLreffus: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart04:11
LjL(or openssh-server, not sure)04:11
lynxodoes anyone know how to change my deafult Boot in Grub?04:12
LjLnext time kill it using sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop if at all possible ;)04:12
ForgeAuspersonally I prefer to use krusader I don't have that kind of trouble04:12
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LjLlynxo: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:12
reffusLjL: ty :)04:13
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lynxoLjL: where do i do that terminal?04:14
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LjLlynxo: it's a text file, you edit it with a text editor. you need to be root, however, so either Alt+F2 and type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst", or if you prefer terminal, "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"04:14
surgyhello04:15
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lynxothe altf2 command failed.04:15
jesusiyohow install wine04:16
Toomassudo apt-get install wine04:16
reffussudo apt-get install wine04:16
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reffus:)04:16
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Toomasheh :)04:16
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chuenHi. Where's the best place tp research a DVD drive that'll be compatible with Edgy?04:17
ForgeAusmost dvd drives should be compatible with kubuntu04:17
surgyi changed my xbox gamepad to usb, and pluged it in, i can get everything working except the pov/hats (joysticks) wont calibrate right, i then bouht a saitek recoil, and the pov/hats will not calibrate corectly on it either. any sugestions tips or referenced articles whould be apreciated04:17
ForgeAusyou standard DVD burner generally works04:17
surgy.04:17
chuenForgeAus: OK, thanks.04:17
lynxoljl it errored when i trye3d to open it04:17
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jesusiyois it a error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18804/04:18
LjLlynxo: my bad, i sometimes forget this is #kubuntu and not #ubuntu, i gave you a GNOME command04:18
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LjLlynxo: "kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"04:18
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lynxo ljl what do i edit in there?04:19
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ForgeAusthe default option04:19
ForgeAusread through the text in it carefully04:19
Nathanhey i'm back how do i turn beryl off now?04:19
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LjLlynxo, it's commented... anyway, it's the first line, and surprisingly it's called "default":04:19
ForgeAusif it is the default menu.lst it explains how04:19
jesusiyohelp me please04:20
jesusiyohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18804/04:20
jesusiyois it a correct install?04:20
ForgeAusI don't read whatever language that is04:21
jesusiyoa moment please04:21
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lynxoLjL: are u sure its "kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" cuz nothing opened.04:22
LjLlynxo: pretty sure yep04:22
surgyi changed my xbox gamepad to usb, and pluged it in, i can get everything working except the pov/hats (joysticks) wont calibrate right, i then bouht a saitek recoil, and the pov/hats will not calibrate corectly on it either. any sugestions tips or referenced articles whould be apreciated04:22
LjLlynxo: i'd avoid the quotation marks if i were you though04:22
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jesusiyoin your language jeje http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18806/04:22
LjLjesusiyo: do you have Universe enabled?04:23
lynxoi did it says it can't find comand kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:23
lynxoLjL: i did it says it can't find comand kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:23
LjLlynxo: that must be because you put it in quotation marks. see above.04:23
jesusiyowhat can i do?04:23
LjLjesusiyo: enable it?04:23
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lynxoLjL: i did it says it can't find comand kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst i looked04:23
jesusiyoi think that yes04:24
lynxoit needed to be kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst04:24
LjLlynxo: uh yes, kate, kedit isn't installed by default indeed...04:24
jesusiyowhat can i do?04:24
LjLi think i'm not in a good day04:25
LjLjesusiyo: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:25
jesusiyoa moment04:25
bonaldo2000I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?04:25
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jesusiyohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18807/04:26
nosrednaekimanyone else having problems with dual core processors waking up after suspend to ram?04:26
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LjL!automatix | jesus04:27
LjL!automatix | jesusiyo04:27
ubotujesus: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:27
ubotujesusiyo: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:27
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LjLeek, didn't it have the "please see above" feature now?04:27
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jesusiyobut what can i do?04:27
surgycan anyone help me please?04:28
LjLjesusiyo: 1) you're on Feisty, but you are using the WINE repository for Dapper. not a good idea   2) You're using Automatix. not a good idea.  3) you have feisty-updates enabled for main and restricted but not universe. not a good idea04:28
LjLjesusiyo: remove Automatix, for a start04:28
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jesusiyoshould i unistall automatix?04:29
lynxowish me luck lol04:29
LjLjesusiyo: yes04:29
jesusiyoand  then what?04:29
ForgeAusfix your sources.list04:29
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LjLwhich i'll do for you04:29
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ForgeAusif your in feisty you can fix that in adept (the kubuntu package manager) via the gui simply check and uncheck the boxes you need in manage repositories in the menu...04:30
ForgeAusor let LjL send you a good one.. or something04:30
jesusiyoi want play pes6 in kubuntu and play photoshop and other progams04:30
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ForgeAuspes6?04:31
LjLyikes04:31
hdxxpro evolituon soccer :P04:31
ForgeAusphotoshop you don't Play as such but it does install from wine as far as I'm aware...04:31
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LjLseveas, you removed all non-ubuntu repositories from som?04:31
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jesusiyoi unistall automatix and will remove the programs installed with automatix?04:32
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ForgeAusjesusiyo I doubt it04:32
boblenyHey, what keys do I need to press to get the terminal from the login screen?04:33
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jesusiyopuf it is a big problem jeje04:33
ForgeAushowever they may not be installed correctly via automatix2... its best to install the ones from ubuntu official repositories if you can04:33
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LjLjesusiyo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18808/  use this as your new sources.list04:34
ForgeAusbobleny, you probably want control + alt +104:34
boblenyIt was something + something F2?04:34
ForgeAus(control + alt + F7 should get you back if not try the other numbers...04:34
ForgeAusyeah sorry I meant F104:34
boblenyOk, thank you!04:34
jesusiyoi should clean the other sources.list and install this?04:35
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LjLjesusiyo: yes04:35
jesusiyook thank you04:35
LjLjesusiyo: then, after doing that, type  sudo apt-get update , then install wine04:36
LjLat least, hope it installs.04:36
manchickenAnybody know how to get knetworkmanager to stop going off of the manual configuration and show me the list of SSIDs again?04:36
jesusiyoi will comment my results jeje thank you04:36
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icecruncherI istalled vmware player, restarted it and now it's asking for a virtual machine, what to do?04:37
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icecruncherrestarted the comp I mean04:38
jesusiyoLjL i can't do it because i don't know how unistall automatix 204:39
manchickenjesusiyo: How'd you install it?04:39
LjLjesusiyo: "dpkg --get-selections | grep automatix", and uninstall all the packages listed04:39
jesusiyoi paste you sources.list and remove my list04:39
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markcanyone here tried twinkle ?04:40
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jesusiyoit is the command for unistall automatix?04:41
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Etokurasudo apt-get remove automatix04:42
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jesusiyosudo apt-get remove automatix04:43
jesusiyook04:43
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bonaldo2000I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?04:44
BlackBsdi have a samba share set up on my linux box, but when ppl put files into my directory, the owner and group is "nobody"  is it possible to override this to be something like "users"04:44
mek_I never realy understood the usage of automatix, ... it is a deb/apt based linux, so I prefer to use deb packages, ...04:44
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mek_also linuxmce looks horrible to me04:45
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BluesKajBlackBsd: sudo chmod u+s `which smbmnt` , followed by sudo chmod u+s `which smbumount`... but this makes the syatem open to all on the network04:47
jesusiyoa good manual for beryl?04:47
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BlackBsdBlueKaj, the folder is currently open to all the network04:48
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feni23i have a problem ... i am not able to install a prog, because of a missing lib, called libmp3lame. well. then i wanted to install this lib with aptitude (apt-cache search, then: aptitude install libmp3lame ...). But then aptitude said, that there is no lib called libmp3lame, which is impossible, because it's written in the readme of the prog i want to install .... help pls?!?!04:49
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markcfeni23: apt-get install liblame004:52
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feni23well .. actually adept manager says liblame0 is installed04:52
markcfeni23: you may have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories04:52
sparrwlooking for help setting up a Xentera GT 4 video card in ubuntu04:53
feni23in adept?04:53
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feni23ahhh i got it!!!!104:53
markcfeni23: what was it ?04:54
feni23i just installed liblame-dev ...! hahaha04:54
markc:-)04:54
feni23it's working ... grear04:54
feni23great04:54
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markcanyone here want to try twinkle ?04:54
EtokuraTwinkle?04:54
feni23twinkle?04:55
malik__any one here who knows how to work with krita?04:55
markcSIP phone04:55
nanayes04:55
markcI'd be interested to try a direct chat to see if twinkle works over the net04:55
feni23anyone here who wants to eat something?!04:55
markcapt-get install twinkle ... anyone ?04:56
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EtokuraI like modifying songs to change the female singer's voice to a more masculent sonding one04:56
nanawhat is twinkle04:56
feni23SIP phone ... ?04:56
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markctwinkle is a  SIP VoIP phone04:56
markcsoftphone04:56
markclike skype, but not skype04:56
feni23well, i use skype04:56
markcthere is a new version of skype coming out soon but I'd rather not use it at all04:57
nanai am install it04:57
nanahow can i use it?04:57
feni23ANYONE HERE, WHO WANTS TO USE SKYPE WITH ME?04:57
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dominic_hi04:57
nanayes04:57
feni23nana whats ure sypename?04:58
nanananaii2104:58
markcnana: when you install and the config wizard comes up just give it a username and any domainname but ignore using a server, just select direct IP to IP calls04:58
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nanaok04:59
markcahh, my favourite song is on di.fm... cool04:59
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ubuntuHi, I am tring to install kubuntu and when it says preparing for disk space, there is nothing to do?04:59
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markcthen try calling -> sip:markc@60.240.81.2805:00
feni23nana: there is no skype contact called nanaii21 !05:00
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dominic_whats you specs05:00
dominic_btw i love Kubuntu....05:00
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dominic_just installed today.... im very happy new linux guy...05:01
hdxxnice to head that05:01
nana1 min ok05:01
dominic_microsft is bye bye for me05:01
ubuntuI want to install kubuntu but I can't because for some reason the installation will not let me continue?05:01
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dominic_do you have space in your harddrive?05:01
EtokuraDid you partition your hard drive correctly?05:02
ivanciao a tutti05:02
ubuntuI have 80GB of space05:02
ubuntuHow do I parition my hard drive05:02
ivancome faccio ad accedere al canale ubuntu?05:02
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ubuntuActually I figured out the problem, for some reason the page takes 2 minutes to load05:02
hdxxext3 / 10gb .. linux swap 1gb .. ext3 /home rest of GB05:03
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feni23i don't find u05:04
feni23nana: search feni2305:04
dominic_see for me to get my kubuntu to install is... i use magic partition to create unallocated space in my hard drive... reason is that i use all my harddrive for windows, used magic partition.... split the hard drive to 50 gig 50 gig unallocated, no partition what so ever, not even logical and extended partition... start up kubuntu and in the installation page. just choose Guide Partition: use free space in harddrive....05:05
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dominic_and that's it05:06
dominic_its really easy...05:06
ivanqualcuno mi dice come faccio ad accedere al canale ubuntu?05:06
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ivan#ubuntu05:06
cprgmswr2This is better05:07
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cprgmswr2I think the kubuntu install has problems if one of the pages takes 2 minutes to load05:07
cprgmswr2This would have scared off any new users by now05:07
dominic_or the disk is bad iso...05:07
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cprgmswr2I check the desk before installation05:08
dominic_i think its your harddrive, you don't have unallocated free space in your hard drive for the kubuntu to detect....05:08
cprgmswr2So thats my fault?05:09
dominic_yea part user and part developer. lmao05:09
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cprgmswr2The installation even says detecting file systems05:09
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cprgmswr2I admit that I can figure stuff out for myself since I can install gentoo... but the point I am tring to make is if a new user tries to install kubuntu over a brand new harddrive, its going to have issues.. as I deleted all partitions before beginning the process of install kubuntu05:10
dominic_the way i see it, is if you get to kubuntu to load... then the disk is fine, it would have to be your pc or laptop. the hard drive usually05:11
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dominic_now that you mention your a gentoo guru.... there a ipw2200 drive for gentoo right?05:11
dominic_*driver05:11
cprgmswr2I would image so... I have never touched those drivers05:12
dominic_cuz im did install gentoo but im having trouble installing and get my intel pro/wireless 9150 to work... the driver for it is ipw2200 for all linux... and gentoo is kinda hard..05:13
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cprgmswr2Yeah gentoo is kinda hard... I am using a desktop so I havn't had to mess with wireless05:13
dominic_and btw, im new to linux05:13
cprgmswr2did you try and google a howto05:14
cprgmswr2Btw I just checked and I have 1 linux partition05:14
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pierosera05:15
dominic_yea i did, they mostly say about the drive modifying it with the kernel and i dont know how to do that.... i installed gentoo in my desktop and internet work fine, but im concern about it on my laptop since i dont use wired connection05:15
abelard_is there a thing like gDesklets for KDE?05:15
dominic_*driver05:15
strabesabelard_: supposedly superkaramba is...i'm going to try it now05:16
cprgmswr2dominici I can walk you through configuring your kernel if thats your issue05:16
dominic_well what the heck.. im good with kubuntu right now....05:16
cprgmswr2Thats good05:16
dominic_well see i dont really know if modifiying the driver to link with kernel.... i just want it to work....05:17
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pilarGood afternoon everyone05:18
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dominic_so don't bother cprgmsw2.... im good.... with kubuntu.. and microsoft will go down the drain. slow painfull death. rofl05:18
dominic_hey pilar05:18
pilarI recently installed Kubuntu feisty05:18
dominic_cool me too pilar05:18
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pilar;)05:18
pilarI am a bit newbie and I am having a little problem05:19
dominic_its my 2 second linux install os, my first was mandrake way back then. now its called mandriva... kinda gurly name. lmao05:19
dominic_what kind of problem?05:19
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pilarwhen I try to start a program, it says that I need to stop adept first. But I don't have adept running05:20
dominic_im new too. so i can help out,,, im learning05:20
feni23nana: where are you from dude?!?05:20
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dominic_i think, in console type in "dpkg --configure -a05:20
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dominic_dpkg --configure -a05:20
dominic_it takes that mysterious adept running. rofl05:21
pilar?05:21
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dominic_go to start > system > Konsole05:21
cprgmswr2kubuntu doesn't have rieserfs?05:21
dominic_and login as root05:21
dominic_in order to login as root, type in konsole "su" and then type in your root password05:22
pilarok05:22
pilardone05:22
sparrw(...Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] ... + ...Radeon R250 Ln [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]  [Secondary] ...) *2  <--  my video card status.  any tips on getting all 4 monitors working?05:22
pilarBut the message is still there05:22
dominic_logged in as root?05:22
nanahi fen12305:22
pilaryes05:22
nanahi fen12305:22
nanahi fen12305:22
nanaare u in the room?05:23
dominic_when you type in "dpkg --configure -a" restart your OS05:23
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pilardo I have to restart?05:23
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dominic_and i should be fine05:23
dominic_start logoff and then restart05:23
pilarok, let's do it05:23
dominic_lol05:23
GABIOK05:23
pilarsee you then05:23
dominic_k05:23
dominic_that's the problem with adept package, its runs in the background.... even though its on on the process05:24
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EtokuraAren't there encoder commands for mplayer that you can use in a terminal for nquick media encoding?05:24
GABIPRET05:25
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nanafeni12305:25
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fdovingEtokura: yes, 'mencoder' it's a separate package.05:26
dominic_anyone able to run windows online games without cedega or wine? other programs?05:27
EtokuraIs there a list of commands comewhere?05:27
Etokura!mencoder05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
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EtokuraSomewhere*05:27
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fdoving!info mencoder05:27
ubotumencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 3473 kB, installed size 8732 kB05:27
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jhutchinsEtokura: That's a pretty complex subject.  I would suggest finding sites that discuss it on google or usenet news.05:27
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jhutchinsThere is a set of shell scripts called tovid that is a lot of help preparing DVD's.05:28
fdovingEtokura: list of mencoder commands? 'man mencoder' from a konsole, or #mencoder in konqueror.05:28
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jhutchinsEtokura: You might also want to look at avidemux2, a transcoding and editing GUI.05:29
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jesusiyoi can't play motogp3 with cedega why?05:29
spawn57is there anyone here that's proficient with software raid05:29
javierHi! A quick question. I'm trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 but I think that I'm suffering this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/10860605:30
javierAny idea about how I could do the upgrade?05:30
jhutchinsjesusiyo: That's a question for cedega, not kubuntu.05:30
jesusiyotell me a page of irc for talk about games05:31
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dominic_javier. its best to install kubuntu fresh....05:31
kdesetuphow do I deactivate katapult -- I want to free up alt+space05:31
dominic_what does katapult do?05:31
javierdominic_: Why? It shoudn't be so different05:32
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dominic_so you don't have to frustrate any bugs that might occur doing upgrade, i find it easier...05:33
dominic_that my way05:33
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javierI upgraded my box at home and it worked fine05:34
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dominic_lol well thats good.05:34
jhutchinsfreecontrib.org is timing out on me...05:35
cosmodadwhat's the standard video player in kubuntu?05:35
kdesetupdominic: from the APT description -- Katapult is an application, which analyses text-based queries to launch items, such as bookmarks, directories or programs.05:35
kdesetup05:35
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dominic_mplayer05:35
dominic_i install realplayer 10.... though05:36
cosmodaddominic_: no really? If I click on a video file, should it start mplayer?05:36
cosmodaddominic_: not even gmplayer?05:36
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cosmodaddominic_: I was thinking about something equivalent to (GNOME) ubuntu's totem05:36
dominic_no it doesn cosmodad05:36
dominic_wtf05:36
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cosmodadsomething GUI-like05:37
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dominic_oh cool kdesetup thanks for that info05:38
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andreoi05:38