[12:17] <Inter--> the boring part is that Kopete doesnt work either.
[12:18] <dwidmann> Pete__: why not just remove it? (with dpkg --purge msttcorefonts, of course)
[12:18] <Pete__> sorry, im transitioning from the rpm world ;)
[12:19] <dwidmann> Pete__: no problem
[12:19] <Pete__> Im sure I don't need msttcorefonts for mythtv-frontend..
[12:19] <dwidmann> Pete__: truth be told, I actually run debian anymore ... I just like hanging out here
[12:20] <Pete__> Fair enough
[12:21] <Pete__> I'd like a way to know its not going to come back though, I don't like the idea of having ms fonts installed
[12:23] <paolo> Hi. In kernel's drivers folder for usb-videocam (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/drivers/media/video/usbvideo/ ) I see ibmcam.c, konicawc.c, ultracam.c and usbvideo.c . Does it mean that only ibm, konicawc and ultracam usb cameras are supported?
[12:24] <dwidmann> Pete__: I don't think it would have installed itself ... wouldn't you have had to put it there yourself? (somehow or another, or a script or program you used did ...)
[12:26] <dwidmann> paolo: for cameras, at any rate, a lot of them are supported generically, with something like USB mass storage or the like
[12:27] <Pete__> dwidmann: yeh, I ran apt-get install mythtv-frontend
[12:27] <Pete__> but I've used mythtv before with out having to install those fonts
[12:27] <paolo> dwidmann: ok, so, in this case, which is the related driver?
[12:28] <dwidmann> paolo: in that case that it's supported with usb mass storage or similar, you wouldn't need to install any driver
[12:28] <mat1980> italian
[12:28] <dwidmann> my usb camera is supported in that nature ... out of the box : )
[12:29] <Pete__> I better go now anyway, maybe I can figure out something tomorrow :)
[12:29] <dwidmann> Pete__: mythtv-frontend itself doesn't depend on msttcorefonts, maybe one of its depends does
[12:29] <paolo> dwidmann: ok, but in which .c file I find the ioctl function for a generic usb camera?
[12:30] <dwidmann> paolo: I've no idea
[12:30] <paolo> ok thnks anyway
[12:32] <adriana10> hola
[12:33] <dwidmann> adriana10: hello
[12:33] <adriana10> hi
[12:34] <adriana10> sabes donde puedo descargar automatix?
[12:34] <LjL> adriana10: no
[12:34] <adriana10> uffff
[12:34] <LjL> adriana10: pero s que automatix es bastante mala.
[12:34] <LjL> !automatix
[12:34] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:34] <LjL> y s que es #ubuntu-es el canal para espaol ;)
[12:35] <adriana10> gracias
[12:38] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:39] <Adriland> Hello
[12:40] <Adriland> I would like to know how to install a printer ?
[12:40] <dwidmann> Adriland: more than likely depends on the printer
[12:40] <Adriland> It's an epson
[12:40] <Adriland> CX6400
[12:42] <dwidmann> Adriland: I don't even have a printer, so I'm not the best person to ask, check http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[12:42] <dwidmann> search for printer, bound to be something on it
[12:42] <Adriland> yes I did it but it only explain for gnome interface
[12:43] <_4str1> Adriland: did you try with HPLIP toolbox ?
[12:43] <Adriland> yes but I didn't uncerstant
[12:44] <Adriland> understand
[12:45] <_4strO> Adriland: je suis sur #kubuntu-fr
[12:45] <ubuntu_> do the latest automatix version run on kubuntu7-amd64(flash plugin)
[12:45] <ubuntu_> ?
[12:45] <_4strO> dont ask it here :p
[12:45] <_4strO> !automatix
[12:45] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:46] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:47] <dwidmann> ubuntu_: don't know about automatix, but if it's flash you're looking for my script ( http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64 ) can take care of it
[12:48] <meuhlol> Hi everybody
[12:49] <pablo_> hola alguien habla espaol?
[12:50] <dwidmann> sidd_: I've never seen anything like that before, that's a weird one
[12:50] <pablo_> Hola alguien que me pueda ayudar con una webcam
[12:51] <sidd_> dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it
[12:52] <wsjunior> is anybody having problems with kopete transfering images?!
[12:53] <dwidmann> wsjunior: as in the little avatar images, or using send file?
[12:53] <sam_> hi .. does anyone know how to change the colour of the background of the cube in beryl?
[12:54] <dwidmann> !es | pablo
[12:54] <ubotu> pablo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <dwidmann> !es | pablo_
[12:54] <ubotu> pablo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <xerosis> wsjunior: it's a bug in kopete, i get it for all files
[12:54] <wsjunior> dwidmann: sending files
[12:55] <wsjunior> xerosis: ya, now i discoverd it happens to all kind of files..
[12:55] <dwidmann> wsjunior: what message protocol?
[12:55] <wsjunior> dwidmann: msn
[12:55] <markelhas> hi ppl, need some help with my kubuntu config. I've some problems with torrents, cause my upload speed is very very slow.
[12:56] <dwidmann> mmhm ... it's probably protocol specific too. Kopete has always been a bit shotty when it comes to file transfers in my experience
[12:56] <markelhas> and when i use the same torrent in my xp it's just fine the upload speed
[12:56] <markelhas> any tips for this!?
[12:56] <Gamic> Here, at least, kopete is working fine with sending files over msn
[12:56] <sidd_> dwidmann: It baffled me as well. It's in the kde mailing list but I can't make sense of it
[12:56] <sidd_> I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and I get this problem everytime I try to run a particular program: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18696/ . Any suggestions?
[12:57] <Gamic> Markelhas: Are you using a router, and have you forwarded the ports KTorrent is using from the router to your computer?
[12:57] <_4strO> sidd_: if you give the program name it will help ...
[12:57] <wsjunior> dwidmann: odd that it just happen for some users
[12:57] <markelhas> Gamic: i've used Ktorrent and utorrent (wine), the ports in the router are set.
[12:58] <sidd_> _4str0: It's a program calle openkiosk that is used for kiosk management. http;//openkiosk.soureceforge.net
[12:58] <sidd_>  http://openkiosk.soureceforge.net
[12:58] <_4strO> sidd_: I know it :)
[12:58] <markelhas> Gamic: ithis speed problem started when i update to 7.04 i think.
[12:58] <wsjunior> dwidmann: im not able to send files to another person using kopete or amsn but it works for msn users
[12:58] <sidd_> _4str0: Have you used it?
[12:59] <markelhas> Gamic: but i realized only now, because of my low racio in a private tracker
[12:59] <dwidmann> wsjunior: yeah, but sending and receiving have always been two seperate beasts AFAIK
[12:59] <_4strO> sidd_: not me but a friend
[12:59] <sidd_> _4str0: Ah...So what is the cause of this problem?
[12:59] <_4strO> we made the www.opensource-cafe.fr
[12:59] <markelhas> Gamic: to get my good racio i've to upload via xp :(
[01:00] <sidd_> _4str0: So you are the perfect person to dispense advice to me!! :)
[01:00] <Gamic> markelhas: I can't think what the problem is there, sorry
[01:00] <_4strO> sidd_: when have you got the error message ?
[01:00] <sidd_> _4str0: When I tried running kiosksetup in the terminal
[01:01] <_4strO> is openkiosk installed on your server ?
[01:01] <sidd_> Indeed
[01:01] <markelhas> Gamic: i really don't see where is the problem to. maybe the 7.04 problem on my desktop don't no
[01:01] <stoft> markelhas: just a guess here, but sounds like BT thinks it's behind a firewall and thus upload is slow. if you can open up a few ports it might work better.
[01:01] <sidd_> _4str0: I can run kiosklock with the necessary options and it works fine
[01:02] <Gamic> markelhas: You could double check that KTorrent doesn't have a limit on its Share Ratio as well
[01:02] <markelhas> stoft: i've open several port's on my router just in case, disable every firewall, and nothing :( getting crazy with this!
[01:03] <markelhas> Gamic: i've looked for every config in the client and test diferrent client :|
[01:03] <markelhas> And if a google for a specif torrent to ddl the download speed is just fine
[01:04] <Gamic> markelhas: could you send an email to yourself with a large attachment (say 500kb or so), to see how long that takes to upload?
[01:04] <markelhas> Gamic: ok going to try
[01:04] <sidd_> _4str0: Any ideas?
[01:05] <stoft> markelhas: you sure? not sure what the default configuration for iptables on kubuntu is
[01:06] <dwidmann> which reminds me seeing as I just set everything up I need to reset up guarddog ...
[01:06] <_4strO> sidd_: nop
[01:06] <markelhas> stoft: i didn't look to the iptable cause i don't now how to
[01:07] <_4strO> just dont understand the exact pb, u said everything works fine :p
[01:07] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm having problems getting my fglrx card to work. Here is a link to my Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/0vtArJ18.html and then one to my xorg.conf file: http://rafb.net/p/VrkQ3i33.html
[01:07] <LHoT> can anyone help me with beryl? its IRC channel in dead
[01:07] <LHoT> is*
[01:08] <stoft> !firestarter
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:08] <stoft> markelhas: firestarter provides a gui for manipulating iptables.
[01:09] <yeti> what am i missing in my kernel config if it's complaining about device-mapper errors?
[01:09] <stoft> markelhas: that's probably your safest bet. if iptables is the source of your problem.
[01:09] <markelhas> stoft: i've that one and i've open several ports on it to
[01:09] <markelhas> stoft: but now i've disable it
[01:10] <_4strO> kkerwin: whats wrong ?
[01:10] <stoft> markelhas: disabled how?
[01:10] <LHoT> anyone?
[01:10] <markelhas> stoft: close the program
[01:10] <_4strO> !ask | LHoT
[01:10] <ubotu> LHoT: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:10] <kkerwin> _4strO: When running glxgears to test 3D, I get a: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:11] <LHoT> Alrighty then...
[01:11] <kkerwin> _4strO: Then, refer to my posted Xorg.0.log for more.
[01:11] <markelhas> stoft: is there problem in firestarter config?
[01:11] <stoft> markelhas: afaik that doesn't disable, it's just a GUI
[01:11] <LHoT> every time I try to start beryl as my window manager, it quits to Kwin
[01:11] <LHoT> any help?
[01:11] <stoft> markelhas: I would open firestarter and add an inbound traffic policy
[01:11] <markelhas> stoft: ok then
[01:11] <_4strO> LHoT: perhaps :p
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> LHoT: are you using a card that can do direct rendering?
[01:12] <LHoT> yes
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> if so, are you using the proper drivers for that card?
[01:12] <stoft> markelhas: open?
[01:12] <kkerwin> _4strO: Specifically line 743: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI
[01:12] <markelhas> stoft: and what about outbound?
[01:12] <_4strO> kkerwin: with fglrx driver the command is different it looks like fglrx...
[01:12] <LHoT> I think...
[01:13] <LHoT> let me check
[01:13] <stoft> markelhas: lets first look at your inbound
[01:13] <LHoT> I'm really new to Linux...
[01:13] <_4strO> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <kkerwin> _4strO: Checking ...
[01:14] <LHoT> thanks 4str0
[01:14] <markelhas> stoft: ok sorry, i've added now port the client
[01:14] <LHoT> meh
[01:14] <stoft> is it under "Allow service"?
[01:14] <_4strO> kkerwin: what does 'fglrxinfo' give you ?
[01:15] <LHoT> first, how do I set my default browser? I can't stand Konqueror
[01:15] <markelhas> stoft: yes and for everyone
[01:15] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: has our friend Alberto Milone ported Envy for Feisty yet ...I know ppl frown on these windows like automatic install setups but "Envy" one worked well for me in edgy
[01:15] <stoft> ok
[01:15] <_4strO> LHoT: wich video card have you ?
[01:15] <dwidmann> lhot: systemsettings -> kde components -> web browser (or some such)
[01:15] <xerosis> wsjunior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/79468
[01:15] <stoft> markelhas: and outbound, is it "permissive"?
[01:15] <mc__> hello! my system is english,but i would like to have german spell checking in kword. is this possbile?
[01:15] <markelhas> stoft: nop
[01:16] <kkerwin> _4strO: http://rafb.net/p/WbF5zQ32.html
[01:16] <stoft> markelhas: restrictive?
[01:16] <LHoT> its an ATI... not exactly sure what model...
[01:16] <markelhas> stoft: yes, cause last time i've test like that i think
[01:16] <kkerwin> LHoT: Are you refering to my issue? Radeon Mobility 9600
[01:16] <BloodyTux> hello
[01:16] <stoft> markelhas: if it's restrictive you have to add a policy to "Allow service"
[01:17] <LHoT> ...no
[01:17] <_4strO> kkerwin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:17] <_4strO> did have a look on this ?
[01:17] <jtt> BloodyTux, you are back
[01:18] <markelhas> stoft: ok i've added the client port
[01:18] <BloodyTux> uh huh
[01:18] <stoft> markelhas: now give it a try
[01:18] <Tired_> Do I need to do anything special for my Windows machine to recognize my Kubuntu machine via the computer name rather than the LAN ip?
[01:19] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'lspci | grep ATI' in a console and you will know wich card it is
[01:19] <markelhas> stoft: going to make some test, give me five
[01:19] <stoft> np
[01:19] <_4strO> Tired_: samba
[01:19] <LHoT> k
[01:19] <_4strO> on your linux
[01:19] <Tired_> samba is for more than just network shares?  its so I can access a webpage on my kubuntu box without having to type an IP
[01:20] <BloodyTux> so wasup?
[01:20] <_4strO> Tired_: samba is for sharing files or printer
[01:20] <wsjunior> xerosis: mine doesnt stop at 100% it stay at 0%
[01:20] <Tired_> so it won't do what I need?
[01:20] <BloodyTux> what can i use for a web server and how do i set my domain name to it
[01:20] <BloodyTux> ???
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> John Dong in here? If so - thanks for the updated ktorrent packages, it's really been crashing a lot for me - hope it won't any more.
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> well, if you want a webserver, apache's pretty nice
[01:21] <_4strO> Tired_: what are trying to do ? install a web server or just want dhare files ?
[01:21] <BloodyTux> yea
[01:21] <_4strO> share
[01:21] <BloodyTux> how do i use my domain name with it and like cpanel or another control panel
[01:21] <Tired_> i want to be able to type http:mykubuntuboxescomputername, rather than http://192.168.0.2
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: i'm lost on that part of it :)
[01:22] <LHoT> Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:22] <_4strO> haaaaaa
[01:22] <Tired_> the IP works fine, just not the computer name
[01:22] <BloodyTux> .... :(
[01:22] <herr_tristan> Tired_: You should add it to windows hosts file
[01:22] <BloodyTux> i bought a domain and now i want to turn it into a school project but i need a domain to make it
[01:22] <Tired_> oh.  never thought of that...thanks  :)
[01:23] <BloodyTux> i don't want to have to type http://53409534e56.3573456.243532.12351
[01:23] <BloodyTux> just to get to it
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> herr_tristan: how well will that work if his linux box has a dynamic ip?
[01:23] <Tired_> Daisuke_Ido: I don't
[01:23] <Tired_> :)
[01:23] <LHoT> My card is a Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> well then
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> carry on
[01:23] <_4strO> Tired_: look for a file names lmhost on your windows
[01:24] <Tired_> oh, I know how, I just hadn't thought of that
[01:24] <herr_tristan> Daisuke_Ido: but why dynamic? It's local IP, so it's no reason to have it dynamic
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> herr_tristan: i know that and you know that.  most people with $40 linksys routers don't know that.
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: go to dyndns.org
[01:25] <Tired_> Mine's a $30 D-Link, probably why I knew that  ;)
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Tired_: i said most :P
[01:25] <_4strO> Tired_: sorry it's just host /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
[01:25] <Tired_> i'm just teasing...i'm pretty happy now that Synergy works, it means I have now officially figured out how to do everything in Kubuntu that I used to use Windows for.
[01:26] <Tired_> in less than 2 weeks
[01:26] <BloodyTux> daisuke_ido: yea my budget is $0.00 since i got my new ps2 games and ddr pads and mics, and my gaming router...
[01:26] <kkerwin> _4strO: Rebooting. Will be back. Thanks again.
[01:26] <LHoT> _4str0: Radeon Xpress 200M
[01:26] <_4strO> no pb ;)
[01:27] <_4strO> LHoT: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:27] <LHoT> sure
[01:28] <_4strO> !paste | LHoT
[01:28] <ubotu> LHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <BloodyTux> i didn't know they had a windows irc on freenode
[01:28] <BloodyTux> >:)
[01:28] <markelhas> stoft: i've tested the same torrent, same tracker, for five min, 1st in kubuntu box, 0,2 k/s uploading, 2nd in xp and got 30 kb/s upload.
[01:29] <markelhas> stoft: *0,2kb/s
[01:29] <stoft> markelhas: which bt client? ktorrent?
[01:29] <LHoT> sorry... how do I get that info?
[01:30] <markelhas> stoft: i've tested in utorrent with wine, i've always used this one
[01:30] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[01:30] <LHoT> thanks
[01:30] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <stoft> markelhas: I suggest you try with one of the native clients e.g. ktorrent, bittorrent, bittornado, azureus or qtorrent.
[01:31] <markelhas> stoft: ok i can use ktorrent i've installed
[01:31] <stoft> markelhas: try "apt-cache search torrent" in a console and you'll see some alternatives
[01:32] <_4strO> ktoorent just work fine
[01:32] <rmd_> markelhas: i doubt you'll experience a difference.  i've always had improved torrent activity using utorrent under wine compared to native apps
[01:32] <_4strO> ktorrent
[01:32] <intelikey> that's the highest lag time i think ive ever seen     -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 91.469 seconds   8*{
[01:32] <markelhas> rmd_: i like very much this one, but i really want to solve this :|
[01:33] <stoft> rmd_: maybe you can explain why his speeds under wine/linux are worse than xp?
[01:33] <LHoT> _4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18711/
[01:33] <rmd_> i can't explain the difference, but i sincerely doubt that it is a wine issue.  by all means, try it and see what happens.
[01:33] <_4strO> LHoT: ok let me have a look on it :)
[01:33] <LHoT> thanks.
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: whoah. That's pretty bad what are you on a satellite connection with a full pipe? :)
[01:34] <stoft> markelhas: btw, which ports did you open, the default BT ports?
[01:34] <stoft> markelhas: in firestarter that is.
[01:34] <intelikey> LeeJunFan no dialup with a full pipe
[01:34] <intelikey> clear now.
[01:35] <_4strO> lol LHoT
[01:35] <markelhas> stoft: the default and the client
[01:35] <intelikey> seems if you nice -19 a wget as root then irc clients suffer for it.
[01:35] <LHoT> what?
[01:35] <rmd_> markelhas: have you tried disabling firestarter all together and then running the torrent again?
[01:35] <_4strO> LHoT: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf will open you a window
[01:35] <LHoT> ahhh
[01:35] <markelhas> rmd_: nop
[01:35] <LHoT> you want that info
[01:35] <_4strO> paste the entire content of the file :p
[01:35] <LHoT> okay
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> I remember the days of dialup for me, I used to bond 2 modems together with MPPP, and use traffic control to make sure certain traffic had some reserved bandwidth.
[01:36] <LHoT> lol
[01:36] <LHoT> sorry
[01:36] <_4strO> no pb ;)
[01:36] <rmd_> markelhas: try it and see what happens.  it could give you some valuable information.
[01:36] <BloodyTux> i feel weird. i'm talking in the windows irc...
[01:36] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yeah i could do a little better than what i do.  i'm just to "cheep" to...
[01:37] <phoxy> can anyone help with gfortran?
[01:37] <rmd_> markelhas: you'll probably be safe with firestarter disabled for 10 minutes
[01:37] <LHoT> astro: V
[01:37] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/*
[01:37] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18713/
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I had to, I needed to have responsive ssh even if my wife was downloading music or something.
[01:37] <intelikey> hehhe
[01:38] <intelikey> i'm not sharing the connection...    and no wife to satisfy.
[01:38] <_4strO> LHoT: you cant have beryl with the fglrx driver
[01:38] <markelhas> rmd_: ok, just testing with ktorrent first to check if a native client gets better upload speed
[01:38] <_4strO> LHoT: have you a good reason to have this driver ?
[01:38] <LHoT> hmmmmmmm... so what do I do?
[01:38] <intelikey> LeeJunFan but i totaly stand under you.
[01:38] <rmd_> markelhas: good idea.
[01:39] <phoxy> when   I type: gfortran -o MyProg MyProg.f  and try to run MyProg later, nothing happens
[01:39] <intelikey> what's the command to extract the content of an initramfs image ?
[01:39] <intelikey> is it a cpio something ?
[01:40] <Daisuke_Ido> phoxy: this isn't the place for fortran help, i would bet 95% of the people here don't use it
[01:40] <LHoT> ummm... no idea... like I said... total Linux n00b. I've been running Kubuntu for one month... and thats all my Linux experiance.
[01:40] <_4strO> LHoT: you installed it manually :p
[01:40] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido prolly higher
[01:40] <LHoT> ???
[01:40] <LHoT> hmmm
[01:40] <Gabz> phoxy: lol fortran....
[01:40] <_4strO> LHoT: it's not the driver by default ;)
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, cpio - I forget the args.
[01:41] <phoxy> my feelings exactly, but I am working with some ancient ppl
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: was being very generous
[01:41] <LHoT> ah. it was probably my friends doing
[01:41] <mefisto__> I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. is rsync the way to do that?
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> who the heck uses fortran anymore anyway?
[01:41] <intelikey> there is a   #fortran   but it's almost vacant
[01:41] <markelhas> stoft: ktorrent same slow speed
[01:41] <phoxy> anyone who needs REALLY fast computations
[01:42] <markelhas> stoft: 2.0 kb/s
[01:42] <Gabz> phoxy: they still teach fortan at my university to the enigneers...
[01:42] <rmd_> markelhas: i'd offer to test it with ktorrent myself, but im in a hotel behind a bitch firewall
[01:42] <markelhas> stoft: and very strage cause only to users connect to me
[01:42] <slop> is 11.2 mb/s a decent speed to top out at when transferring files between two computers on a home network?
[01:43] <stoft> markelhas: ok, next step, as rmd_ suggested, in firestarter: stop firewall
[01:43] <rmd_> markelhas: say that again? what's it doing?
[01:43] <Gabz> slop: on a 100mbit network ?/
[01:43] <markelhas> rmd_: i don't think that the problem is from the client but from my kubuntu config or something like that
[01:43] <intelikey> does anyone actually use   "info blah"  ?
[01:43] <slop> Gabz: not sure...just a cheapy discontinued router from walmart, cable modem
[01:43] <markelhas> rmd_: in ktorrent i've only to users on my peer list
[01:44] <stoft> intelikey: I do on occasion, when the man page says that more complete info can be found under info blah. that is usually not the case.
[01:44] <Gabz> slop: top theorical speed is 12.5 mb/s if you want faster upgrade to gigabit
[01:44] <slop> Gabz: cool thanks
[01:44] <rmd_> markelhas: you're leaving out words.  i dont understand what you're trying to say
[01:44] <stoft> markelhas: to==two?
[01:44] <intelikey> i mean like man cpio is all but useless and sends you to info cpio  but one look at that and i feel the urge to defecate,  pardon the descriptor.      it's sickening
[01:45] <markelhas> rmd_: sorry, only 2 users one the peer list
[01:45] <rmd_> ah
[01:45] <elais> so...how about them braves
[01:45] <rmd_> something is being blocked.  try stopping firestarter.
[01:45] <LHoT> astro: so how do I revert the changes?
[01:45] <rmd_> my guess is that it is doing something that windows firewall wasn't
[01:46] <mefisto__> I want to update a folder on my USB dirve with a hard disk folder that has newer files. how do I do that?
[01:47] <rmd_> mefisto__: cp?  copy and paste in file manager?
[01:47] <stoft> intelikey: know what you mean
[01:47] <nuu> good night guys
[01:48] <mefisto__> rmd_: is there a quicker way, so it just updates newer/changed files?
[01:48] <stoft> mefisto__: try "konserve" the kde backup prog
[01:48] <LHoT> anyone know how to make the 24 hour clock a 12?
[01:48] <stoft> mefisto__: don't know if it'll do what you want it to, but maybe
[01:48] <intelikey> LHoT right click on it
[01:48] <mefisto__> thanks stoft, I'll take a look
[01:49] <stoft> intelikey: now if only I could do that trick with the clock in real life too :)
[01:49] <intelikey> :)
[01:49] <markelhas> rmd_: i give up.
[01:49] <markelhas> stoft: thnks for the help
[01:49] <markelhas> rmd_: thnks for the help to
[01:49] <LHoT> still wont change, Im navigating the menus...
[01:50] <stoft> markelhas: did you try stopping the firewall in firestarter?
[01:50] <markelhas> stoft: yap :/
[01:51] <intelikey> LHoT it's there in the time/date  and/or  lang  settings  of the right click menu on the clock app
[01:51] <stoft> markelhas: sorry can't help you then. not quite my area, my isp NATs me so i'm always behind a fw.
[01:51] <intelikey> LHoT kinda hard to find but it's there.
[01:52] <markelhas> stoft: ok, thnk go to go. i'll try later other things. don't now what bu i will. cause i don't want to return to xp.
[01:52] <stoft> markelhas: k, good luck
[01:53] <LHoT> meh...
[01:53] <LHoT> oh well.
[01:57] <LHoT> so... _4str0 disappeared... can anyone help me with my Beryl problem?
[01:58] <_4strO> LHoT: LHoT sorry i was googleing about your video card
[01:59] <LHoT> oh
[01:59] <LHoT> okay
[01:59] <LHoT> sorry... Im very impatient sometimes :-[
[02:01] <_4strO> LHoT: no pb, the pb is i dont find anything about your video card and the free driver
[02:03] <LHoT> yes... my laptop is non existant on the makers web site...
[02:03] <_4strO> ok i find it, it will works :p
[02:03] <LHoT> it wouldnt suprise me if this has a lot of custom stuff
[02:03] <LHoT> :-D
[02:04] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-dri' in a console
[02:04] <_4strO> have you a line who bgin by ii
[02:04] <_4strO> ?
[02:04] <LHoT> yep
[02:04] <_4strO> ok
[02:05] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati'
[02:05] <_4strO> always a line with ii ?
[02:06] <LHoT> yep
[02:06] <_4strO> LHoT: look in the /etc/X11/ directory and find a file names xorg.0 or something like this
[02:06] <baudthief> I'm getting VERY poor performace when transferring photos from my digicam card to my desktop - the ports are USB 2.0, it's taking something like 15 mins for 300mb. Are there known issues with ubuntu for this?
[02:07] <_4strO> baudthief: i dont know
[02:08] <_4strO> LHoT: find one ?
[02:08] <LHoT> nope
[02:08] <LHoT> :(
[02:08] <_4strO> LHoT: or just paste the result of that 'ls /etc/X11/'
[02:09] <LHoT> app-defaults             gdm      xorg.conf                 Xsession.d
[02:09] <LHoT> config                   rgb.txt  xorg.conf.20070422170742  Xsession.options
[02:09] <LHoT> cursors                  X        Xresources                XvMCConfig
[02:09] <LHoT> default-display-manager  xinit    xserver                   Xwrapper.config
[02:09] <LHoT> fonts                    xkb      Xsession
[02:11] <_4strO> LHoT: paste (in the website) the content of 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742'
[02:11] <rmd_> suggestions on a download manager for kde?
[02:11] <LHoT> k
[02:12] <LHoT> crap
[02:12] <_4strO> rmd_: kget
[02:12] <LHoT> closed the window
[02:12] <LHoT> !paste | LHoT
[02:12] <_4strO> ^^
[02:12] <LHoT> doesn't work for myself?
[02:12] <_4strO> /topic
[02:12] <LHoT> thats cheap
[02:12] <rmd_> i very very much like the kde wallpaper downloader
[02:12] <_4strO> !paste | LHoT
[02:12] <ubotu> LHoT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <LHoT> thanks
[02:13] <_4strO> rmd_: what is this ?
[02:13] <vecina> How come I keep having to reinstall dbus to make automounting work?
[02:13] <vecina> not to mention pal and hal to make graphics work right...
[02:13] <_4strO> vecina: i dont know
[02:13] <vecina> _4strO: Ah.
[02:14] <LHoT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18728/
[02:14] <_4strO> vecina: if you put a CD it will automount, isnt it ?
[02:15] <vecina> _4strO: Only if the cd drive is listed in fstab.
[02:15] <lontra> how can i tell X that i have 1200x800 resolution and not 1024x768?
[02:15] <_4strO> vecina: weird
[02:15] <LHoT> is the image nice?
[02:15] <vecina> those three files bork
[02:15] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/
[02:15] <LHoT> my screen looks horrid at 1024x768
[02:16] <vecina> whats worse, the framebuffer makes my monitor shut off.... and sometimes logging out activates framebuffer :(
[02:16] <vecina> kkerwin: Feisty hates my ATI :(
[02:16] <kkerwin> vecina: Me too.
[02:16] <_4strO> LHoT: type in a console 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.bak && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070422170742 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:17] <LHoT> hmmm... what was suposed to happen?
[02:17] <_4strO> cp is copy and mv is move
[02:17] <BluesKaj> _4strO:   copy and paste works too :)
[02:17] <kkerwin> vecina: Speak Spanish at all? Your nick is a Spanish word.
[02:18] <LHoT> okay
[02:18] <_4strO> BluesKaj: a little command is easyer than a big explaination
[02:18] <vecina> kkerwin: No, I just named my computer vecina. The last one was "foxcub"
[02:18] <vecina> I like the word vecina. Its sexy :D
[02:19] <LHoT> speaking of IRC names, can anyone guess where my name comes from?
[02:19] <_4strO> LHoT: you have a liveCD ?
[02:19] <kkerwin> vecina: Gotcha. Well, just in case you were curious, your computer's name means "neighbor" in Spanish.
[02:19] <stoft> kkerwin: male or female?
[02:19] <LHoT> ummm... its here somewhere...
[02:19] <kkerwin> stoft: Female. The -a suffix is (almost) always feminine.
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> _4strO: but if all they get is a little command without explanation, they'll never learn :)
[02:19] <vecina> kkerwin: Really , lol. I heard it was 'vixen' from someone, guess not.
[02:19] <dsmith_> good news: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/01/1353237&from=rss
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> vecina: depends on the neighbor, i suppose ;)
[02:20] <LHoT> ... found it
[02:20] <LHoT> ...
[02:20] <vecina> hehe
[02:20] <kkerwin> vecina: Well, "female neighbor" could definitely be seen as having a sexual connotation.
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: old news :)
[02:20] <_4strO> LHoT: ok now you will have too reboot you X server (ctrl-alt-backspace) if you have any pb just come back here with the liveCD ;)
[02:20] <dsmith_> haha...
[02:20] <LHoT> its an ubuntu, that wont matter, will it?
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> but incredibly cool
[02:20] <dsmith_> yea coolness
[02:20] <dsmith_> so long as we get HW support
[02:21] <kkerwin> dsmith_: Good point. Back on topic.
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> you really think dell wants the support nightmare if they include unsupported hardware?
[02:21] <vecina> Yeah, i saw a gallery of, eh, girls once labeled "Le Vecinas", so i assumed that 'vixen' was in fact the correct translation
[02:21] <dsmith_> aye..
[02:21] <_4strO> Daisuke_Ido: you're right but when someone give me a command i always note it and look for explaination
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Try "zorra" ... see also "zorro" which means fox. "Zorra" would be a female fox.
[02:22] <_4strO> Daisuke_Ido: in fact i dont note it all the time
[02:22] <vecina> kkerwin: I like vecina :3
[02:22] <_4strO> :)
[02:22] <vecina> Zorro means fox?
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Yep. Just being a grammar Nazi. :-)
[02:22] <kkerwin> vecina: Yep.
[02:22] <BluesKaj> _4strO: what does that Xconfig cmnd do for his monitor ?
[02:23] <kkerwin> Fitting name for a masked crusader, no?
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> Zorra.  my new nickname for catherine zeta-jones
[02:23] <vecina> kkerwin: So thats why they named him that
[02:23] <LHoT> I'm back
[02:23] <LHoT> no problem
[02:23] <_4strO> LHoT: ok everything looks fine ?
[02:23] <_4strO> good :)
[02:23] <LHoT> yep
[02:23] <kkerwin> Anyhow ... I'm still having a few problems with my ATI card. Here is a pastebin of what I hope is everything that you'll need (note especially lines 816-17): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18727/
[02:23] <_4strO> LHoT: now we will install beryl :)
[02:23] <LHoT> run Beryl?
[02:24] <LHoT> its all installed
[02:24] <_4strO> LHoT: ok gooooo :)
[02:24] <LHoT> :)
[02:24] <vecina> I have never had this much trouble with linux before
[02:24] <rmd_> can firefox take advantage of kget?
[02:25] <LHoT> :(
[02:25] <vecina> Of course, my windows installation is even less stable
[02:25] <vecina> virii
[02:25] <LHoT> still the same result
[02:25] <LHoT> :(
[02:25] <_4strO> LHoT: ok
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> run beryl-manager
[02:25] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do kkerwin ? direct rendering ? or ?
[02:25] <LHoT> thats whats running
[02:26] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: Eventually, run beryl. But first, get AIGLX working, yes.
[02:26] <PCGenie> Simplicity and flexibility is something i find a lot of in Kubuntu
[02:26] <LHoT> hmmmm... maybe I only installed beryl-manager, and totally forgot beryl
[02:26] <LHoT> lol
[02:26] <vecina> I *DID* until i got this new computer
[02:26] <kkerwin> LHoT: Dependency?
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> it's possible, but pretty unlikely
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[02:26] <vecina> kubuntu haet ATI
[02:26] <LHoT> ?
[02:26] <LHoT> lol
[02:26] <BloodyTux> WAZZUP
[02:26] <kkerwin> LHoT: Wouldn't beryl-manager install beryl as a dependency?
[02:27] <vecina> Wazzaaaaaaaap
[02:27] <LHoT> all the disscussions are about beryl
[02:27] <BluesKaj> kkerwin:  have you consulted the open source driver / beryl tutorials ... there are quite a few
[02:27] <LHoT> I dont know
[02:27] <kkerwin> LHoT: LOL. Ya.
[02:27] <_4strO> LHoT: type 'glxinfo | grep render' in a console
[02:27] <BloodyTux> #beryl!!!!!!
[02:27] <BloodyTux> sorry
[02:27] <BloodyTux>  #beryl
[02:27] <BloodyTux> !!!!
[02:27] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: I an't remember what the problem was, but it didn't work.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> there is als o new linux driver for Radeon cards
[02:27] <kkerwin> BloodyTux: Try: /join #beryl
[02:27] <vecina> fglrx?
[02:27] <LHoT> #beryl is dead
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:27] <_4strO> LHoT: direct rendering: Yes ???
[02:28] <BloodyTux> thats what i meant
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> try #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <LHoT> I asked for help there first
[02:28] <kkerwin> BloodyTux: :-) Just trying to help.
[02:28] <BloodyTux> #beryl is not dead
[02:28] <LHoT> no
[02:28] <LHoT> :(
[02:28] <vecina> Nobody can answer my question no matter where i go.
[02:28] <LHoT> I had it before
[02:28] <vecina> there must not be an answer! A gremlin must live in my hard drive
[02:29] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: Here we go, I rememmber what the problem with the opensource radeon driver was, I got a "non power of two textures aren't supported" message, or something like that.
[02:29] <LHoT> venica: just keep pressing. ;) it always works
[02:30] <LHoT> BloodyTux: Okay then, no one there is saying anything, and there is only one message per 5 min
[02:30] <BloodyTux> ... :)
[02:30] <LHoT> hmmm
[02:30] <BloodyTux> #beryl!!!!!
[02:30] <LHoT> that was a redundant statement
[02:30] <meuhlol> re all
[02:30] <LHoT> ...
[02:31] <meuhlol> whats up?
[02:31] <LHoT> the sky
[02:31] <LHoT> :)
[02:31] <vecina> gas prices
[02:31] <LHoT> lol
[02:31] <LHoT> true
[02:31] <BloodyTux> your computer is outside???
[02:32] <LHoT> well, yes
[02:32] <LHoT> im on a laptop
[02:32] <LHoT> on my balcony
[02:32] <LHoT> :)
[02:32] <BloodyTux> type /join #beryl!!!!!
[02:32] <BloodyTux> good beryl help
[02:33] <LHoT> I just came from there, it's inactive
[02:33] <_4strO> LHoT: 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in it
[02:33] <BloodyTux> try again
[02:33] <BloodyTux> i got good help
[02:33] <_Johny> Hello
[02:34] <BloodyTux> might be #beryl!!!!
[02:34] <LHoT> where do I paste
[02:34] <LHoT> ?
[02:34] <LHoT> GO AWAY!
[02:34] <BloodyTux> what?
[02:34] <jtholmes> !pastebin
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <_Johny> I just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?
[02:34] <_4strO> LHoT: you have to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:35] <LHoT> oh
[02:35] <_4strO> and paste what you have on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18731/ in the file
[02:35] <LHoT> just replace it all?
[02:35] <_4strO> yep
[02:35] <LHoT> k
[02:35] <bob__> hi all
[02:35] <bob__> does anyone got an SDCARD slot to work with edgy?work
[02:36] <LHoT> k
[02:36] <_4strO> LHoT: save it and restart X :)
[02:36] <LHoT> now check for direct rendering again
[02:36] <LHoT> okay
[02:37] <kkerwin> Ok, from the #ATI channel, if you're having problems getting beryl working and are using an ATI card, they don't suggest using the fglrx module, but rather the opensource radeon driver.
[02:37] <_4strO> kkerwin: right :)
[02:38] <velle> Hi, which torrent client can you recommend? I am using ktorrent, but i dont see how to judge what I want to share and what I dont.
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> velle: that's how torrent works, you share what you are downloading.
[02:39] <meuhlol> velle what you have as OS?
[02:39] <meuhlol> Kubuntu or Ubuntu? Edgy or Feisty?
[02:40] <meuhlol> velle, personally i'm at Feisty KDE, & KTorrent is good for me =) nothing needed at plus
[02:40] <flowingfire> Hey everyone!  I have a server running in my system tray that I can't disable.  I have no idea what to do; It's not in my autostart folder, and it's not able to be removed by the standard click-n-close method... ?
[02:40] <LHoT> back
[02:40] <LHoT> nothing still
[02:40] <meuhlol> flowingfire: what you have? KDE or Gnome?
[02:40] <velle> LeeJunFan: I totally agree, but what happens is that it is automatically sharing everything, which is more than 1024 files. So now I am not able to download anymore myself, I get an error if I try, saying that I have too many open files.
[02:40] <flowingfire> meuhlol: I have KDE-- kubuntu
[02:41] <_Johny> velle, you can try Azureus or Ctorrent (under terminal)
[02:41] <meuhlol> flowingfire: feisty?
[02:41] <velle> Im using kubuntu... dont remember which version, sorry
[02:41] <meuhlol> velle: try Ktorrent :)
[02:41] <_4strO> LHoT: direct rendering: No ?
[02:41] <flowingfire> meuhlol?: Indeed, I am running good ol' fun (yet buggy) feisty
[02:41] <LHoT> no
[02:41] <LHoT> :(
[02:41] <_4strO> LHoT: reboot the box :)
[02:42] <_Johny> velle, just piu lsb_release -a in your terminal to see which version you're using
[02:42] <meuhlol> flowingfire, try this one: ksysguard ;) and in it you choose your process & after u kill it xD
[02:42] <velle> _Johny: thanks. Im using dapper
[02:42] <LHoT> its not so much a box box as it is a dough nut box
[02:43] <Pollywog> flowingfire: did you say this thing puts an icon in the tray?
[02:43] <LHoT> :P
[02:43] <_4strO> ;)
[02:43] <LHoT> rebooting
[02:43] <_4strO> ok
[02:43] <flowingfire> Yes, Pollywog-- it puts a thing in the tray... but it doesn't recognize it in when I click to configure the tray... like it's not there.
[02:43] <meuhlol> flowingfire: sudo ksysguard
[02:43] <Pollywog> flowingfire: what does the icon look like?
[02:43] <flowingfire> mehulol: Ok.
[02:44] <meuhlol> flowingfire: and in tab of "table of processus" you kill him
[02:44] <flowingfire> Pollywog: a blue circle of some kind... It showed up after I clicked a tab in properties on a folder to share stuff on the web...
[02:44] <Pollywog> oic
[02:45] <Pollywog> right clicked this icon and no menu comes up?
[02:45] <flowingfire> problem is I'm not sure what it's called lol
[02:46] <meuhlol> flowingfire: what is the name of server you are?
[02:47] <LHoT> direct rendering is a "no"
[02:47] <LHoT> :(
[02:47] <_4strO> rhoooo !
[02:47] <flowingfire> meuhlol: since the whole thing was unintentional I'm not sure... What I did was click the second tab to the right after activating sharing under a folder's properties... Then I clicked start applet.... and the applet never went away
[02:47] <BloodyTux> lhot, beryl is active right now
[02:47] <LHoT> as in peopl helping?
[02:47] <BloodyTux> *#beryl
[02:47] <Pollywog> it might be one of the panel applets
[02:47] <LHoT> or casually ignoring
[02:47] <BloodyTux> * #beryl
[02:47] <BloodyTux> yea helping
[02:48] <_Johny> I just wanted to know how come feisty supports even more the acceleration on my video card, than Edgy?
[02:48] <_4strO> can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:48] <_4strO> LHoT: can you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:48] <flowingfire> hmm.... I just removed all applets from my bar and it seems to be gone along w/ everything else lol
[02:48] <jason_> hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please
[02:48] <ejupin> How can I get my usb mic working? I thought I have all the setting right.. but nothing
[02:49] <meuhlol> flowingfire: try to reboot your machine, and tell me if it come on boot or not
[02:49] <flowingfire> ok.... I'll brb then.
[02:49] <velle> My solution was to rm -r ~/.kde/ktorrent/*           now ktorrent stops sharing out, so now I have to find a way to share just some of it again :)
[02:50] <jason_> hi there, anybody can help me about the /tmp/.X0-lock issue please
[02:51] <Pollywog> jason_: if you can't get an answer here you might post on the forums
[02:51] <jason_> Pollywog: thanks, ill try it
[02:53] <BloodyTux> ughhh wine sucks butt!
[02:54] <tpc__> y dont u use utorrent
[02:54] <BloodyTux> #ubuntu-trivia
[02:54] <mahdi> wine is way sweet
[02:54] <LHoT> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <BloodyTux> !trivia
[02:54] <ubotu> The #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.
[02:55] <anon32> ick, trivia bot? omg...
[02:56] <flowingfire> Hi... I guess that worked, because I restarted and I don't have that nasty thing there anymore.
[02:56] <flowingfire> But now my toolbar is all messy hehe
[02:56] <flowingfire> thanks :)
[02:57] <LHoT> !nothing
[02:57] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[02:58] <anon32> I've got a really old cruddy PC with 64M RAM and a P-II 350MHz, should I bother with X?
[02:58] <BloodyTux> !mada
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <BloodyTux> !nada
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nada - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <danny500> Hey guy's, need help really badly
[02:59] <danny500> ubuntu won't load up the desktop
[02:59] <danny500> 99% of HD being used
[02:59] <danny500> I'm using live cd
[02:59] <danny500> anyone?
[03:00] <anon32> danny500, eh? delete some junk
[03:00] <danny500> I need to get into my hard drive but don't know how to using live cd
[03:00] <anon32> danny500, "mount /dev/harddrivethingyname /mnt/randomgenericfoldername"
[03:01] <danny500> hd = hd0
[03:01] <mahdi> set it up as slave to a friends computer if the livecd can't load
[03:02] <anon32> danny500, that doesn't help... let's see, a) what kind of hard drive do you have? ide/pata? sata? scsi? b) which hard drive (number) are you trying to access?
[03:02] <danny500> ide
[03:02] <anon32> danny500, your hard drive is master on the first channel right?
[03:02] <danny500> 0
[03:02] <danny500> yes
[03:02] <keylocker> hello all!
[03:02] <danny500> it's master
[03:02] <Jump> i recently installed kde on top of ubuntu and now my video thumbnails do not show in kde, but they work in gnome... how can i fix this?
[03:02] <meuhlol> re all
[03:02] <keylocker> someone know about beryl problems with kubuntu now?
[03:03] <mahdi> !hello | keylocker
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <anon32> danny500, do you know which partition number your Ubuntu install is on?
[03:03] <danny500> I don't know, 1?
[03:03] <danny500> it's using the whole drive
[03:03] <anon32> danny500, ok, now we have enough info
[03:03] <keylocker> mahdi: ;] 
[03:03] <danny500> ok
[03:04] <mahdi> hm
[03:04] <anon32> danny500, run the following command "sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu"
[03:05] <danny500> the partitions name is Netkiller btw
[03:05] <BloodyTux> how do i add like xfce to the session list
[03:05] <anon32> danny500, doesn't matter :-P
[03:05] <anon32> did the command work?
[03:06] <danny500> oh ok
[03:06] <danny500> I got a pop up saying the blah blah blah is using 100% of space given
[03:08] <anon32> danny500, ignore it, enter the partition from the command line and junk some pr0n
[03:08] <anon32> "cd /mnt/ubuntu"
[03:08] <anon32> and "rm porno.avi"
[03:08] <danny500> I don't have porn on my drive lol
[03:08] <Jump> is it just me or is kubuntu faster than ubuntu?
[03:08] <danny500> My girlfriend get's the job done so I don't need that shit lol
[03:09] <Sleepy_Coder> Jump:  Might depend on how Kubuntu uses your hardware. :p
[03:09] <danny500> Jump, they are exactly the same, just diferent desktop type
[03:09] <anon32> danny500, "girlfriend"? lol
[03:09] <Sleepy_Coder> *cough*inflatable*cough*
[03:09] <danny500> yeah, you know girl, that I date
[03:09] <Jump> programs in kde just load faster... konquerer loads instantly but firefox takes 5-10 sec
[03:09] <Jump> and in gnome things like amarok are slower to me
[03:10] <Cosmo_> I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?
[03:10] <danny500> haha your funny, this is her, www.myspace.com/michelletheluckygirl
[03:10] <anon32> eww, myspace... I won't ever touch that cruft
[03:10] <Sleepy_Coder> I guess it depends on which desktop manager the programs were made for and how long it takes for the other desktop manager to startup and and load those. :)
[03:10] <Sleepy_Coder> -and*
[03:10] <PCGenie> Firefox is much more exact than IE from MS, it shows the page excatly as it is built
[03:10] <keylocker> noone can help with beryl?
[03:10] <danny500> keylocker
[03:10] <danny500> google it
[03:11] <keylocker> danny500: have notting
[03:11] <keylocker> ive tryed
[03:11] <anon32> danny500, hate to diss on your "gf" but that webpage is horribly designed
[03:11] <danny500> whats wrong then?
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> keylocker:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> :)
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> It's a good read.
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> And looks pretty too. :p
[03:11] <danny500> anon32, yes I know
[03:11] <DaveQB> anyone know where the LiveCD gets the dir /usr/share/wallpaper from ?
[03:11] <Sleepy_Coder> eBay?
[03:11] <DaveQB> its not in the squashfs file that everything else comes from.
[03:12] <danny500> anon32, the thing I hate most aobut it is the fact that you can't fucking message her because there is some huge button link over the entire top of the page
[03:12] <anon32> danny500, I notice the tiled wallpaper and bad choice of colors....
[03:12] <danny500> yes
[03:12] <keylocker> Sleepy_Coder: argh
[03:12] <keylocker> my good
[03:12] <keylocker> ive searched all this site
[03:12] <keylocker> google to
[03:12] <slop|top> what console command would i use to view a list of all IDE devices?
[03:12] <keylocker> o
[03:12] <danny500> oh well, I really don't care though, she's good looking so I let her get away with it lol
[03:13] <keylocker> and notting helped me
[03:13] <DaveQB> slop|top  lshw
[03:13] <danny500> anyways, i'll go check to see if it worked
[03:13] <PCGenie> Try KDE-look.org
[03:13] <DaveQB> slop|top sudo lshw
[03:13] <keylocker> im notting asking if i dont searched....
[03:13] <keylocker> argh
[03:13] <slop|top> DaveQB: thx!
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I think I might set up beryl again... :<
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I had it working once...but I kind of got rid of it because I hated all the animations.
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so turn them off :)
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> They were cool to look at for like..2 seconds.  Then they just got annoying.  I think the window switcher and the desktop cube were the only useful ones.
[03:14] <danny500> anon32, can't chat in other window
[03:14] <Sleepy_Coder> I don't want my computer to rain.  I don't need a computer crying on me.  Get the emo off mai screen bitch!
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> hehehe
[03:15] <danny500> I only have a 20GB drive thats how
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy
[03:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> Sorry.. :<
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> but i see what you mean
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> I keep forgetting I'm in a G-rated channel.
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i use a very slight wobble
[03:15] <anon32> Daisuke_Ido, come on....
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and fade effects on minimize/maximize
[03:15] <anon32> danny500, hehe, 20GB?
[03:15] <danny500> what, I was swearing not to long ago and ubotu didn't say a word lol
[03:15] <Sleepy_Coder> I don't like the windows wobbling too much.  I didn't know you could turn down the jelly effect without getting rid of it. :)
[03:15] <danny500> yes
[03:15] <danny500> P# lol
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> anon32: no "come on" to it, that's the rules here
[03:15] <danny500> P3
[03:16] <DaveQB> so anyone familiar with the way the LiveCD and installer works ?
[03:16] <anon32> I feel your pain, mine's 80GB... video fills that up pretty quick
[03:16] <anon32> Daisuke_Ido, that's no reason to be anal about it...
[03:16] <Daisuke_Ido> 170gb of tv shows :\
[03:16] <anon32> 40GB here.... I only collect 3 series and one of em died after 1 season
[03:16] <danny500> I don't loaded every episode of Trigun, Tokyo Drift, S.P.R., 300, and the first season of Fresh Prince of bell air, thats how I filled it lol
[03:17] <luckyone> digikam question - I would like on image download from my camera for it to make this directory structure /YYYY/MM/DD/image.jpg or whatever
[03:17] <anon32> danny500, ...fresh prince of bell air?
[03:17] <danny500> yeah man, sick show
[03:17] <danny500> :P
[03:17] <anon32> oh yeah, and Trigun sucks
[03:17] <danny500> I like it
[03:17] <danny500> oh and my drive isn't mounting
[03:18] <danny500> I'm going to kill someone
[03:18] <anon32> danny500, what's the error?
[03:18] <anon32> no death threats though, I'm pretty serious about that
[03:18] <danny500> um, error lets see, it won't mount
[03:18] <BloodyTux> !offtopic
[03:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:18] <anon32> danny500, does it say anything?
[03:18] <danny500> there isn't even an icon for it
[03:18] <danny500> no
[03:18] <danny500> cause according to livecd, the drive is none exsistent
[03:18] <anon32> danny500, there doesn't need to be an icon.... browse to it from the command line
[03:19] <danny500> ok whats the command for that?
[03:19] <anon32> danny500, "cd <whereeveryoumountedit>"
[03:19] <anon32> and "ls" prints what's in the current folder
[03:19] <danny500> cd: /dev/hd0: No such file or directory
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> scrubs (oh yeah), daria, south park, the simpsons, saved by the bell, family guy...
[03:20] <anon32> danny500, were you listening a few lines back?
[03:20] <anon32> never mind, paste the output of the command "mount" to http://pastebin.ca
[03:20] <danny500> no, but I was reading
[03:22] <danny500> thats the drive
[03:22] <danny500> ,,,,,,        /dev/hda1 on /mnt/Netkiller type ext3 (rw)
[03:22] <anon32> danny500, there ya go, it's not "hd0, it's hda1"
[03:22] <anon32> :-)
[03:22] <DaveQB> so whats the problem danny500 ?  Sorry, jumping in in mid conversation i think :)
[03:23] <anon32> DaveQB, we fixed it, it was basically mounting partitions.... (he needed grounding in the fundamentals)
[03:23] <danny500> hard drive is full and ubuntu is being a bitch and won't let me in the house
[03:23] <DaveQB> lol
[03:23] <DaveQB> i see
[03:23] <danny500> whats with that anyways?
[03:23] <anon32> danny500, for future reference, hard drives are "hda1 hdb1 hda2 hdb2, etc"
[03:23] <danny500> ok
[03:23] <DaveQB> hd0 is grub like
[03:23] <danny500> It should at least let me in so I can delete crap
[03:24] <DaveQB> cat /boot/grub/devices.map will show that hd0 points to
[03:24] <anon32> danny500, all OS' need the extra space for cacheing and tmp
[03:24] <BloodyTux> sometimes ide drives get sucked into beind hd0 like my friends
[03:24] <danny500> well it can stop cacheing and let me in!
[03:24] <anon32> danny500, also, you mighta been able to boot into recovery/singleuser mode
[03:24] <danny500> tried that
[03:24] <DaveQB> danny500  what wont let you in ?
[03:24] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm having a problem with beryl that perhaps a picture would explain better than words: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2503/berylproblempp1.jpg
[03:24] <danny500> still kicked me off to the login window
[03:24] <stoft> it's not perhaps that swap is inactive?
[03:25] <danny500> I can't login
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, you coulda hit "ctrl alt 1" to get a console
[03:25] <DaveQB> danny500 used a VT instead ?
[03:25] <stoft> (just a thought, don't know what the prob is)
[03:25] <danny500> a what?
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, doing a GUI login needs space
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, console = command line screen
[03:25] <anon32> try hitting that :-)
[03:25] <DaveQB> danny500 login in , in text mode
[03:25] <Cosmo_>  I have a USB headset and a sound card but I can not hear anything through the headset how do I fix this?I am running 7.04 kubuntu
[03:25] <DaveQB> like anon32 said, CTRL+ALT+F1
[03:25] <anon32> danny500, it's ctrl alt f7 to get back to graphical
[03:26] <danny500> I know
[03:26] <DaveQB> hittin the command line is the best way to troubleshoot
[03:26] <danny500> so how do I mount my drive again?
[03:26] <DaveQB> hda1 ?
[03:26] <danny500> reinstalling is another lol
[03:26] <anon32> mount <device> <some empty folder>
[03:26] <danny500> yes
[03:26] <DaveQB> mount /dev/hda1 /dest/directory
[03:26] <DaveQB> sudo ^
[03:26] <DaveQB> anon32  doesnt even need to be empty ;)
[03:26] <anon32> so, for example, mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/isuck
[03:27] <DaveQB> lol
[03:27] <anon32> DaveQB, but that's very smart, lol
[03:27] <DaveQB> does anyone know where the installer gets its wallpaper from ?
[03:27] <danny500> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/
[03:27] <danny500> mount: mount point /home/danny500/ does not exist
[03:28] <DaveQB> its not in the squashfs system at all
[03:28] <DaveQB> danny500  mkdir -p /home/danny500
[03:28] <DaveQB> and then mount it
[03:29] <danny500> IT WORKED! THANKS GUYS!
[03:29] <DaveQB> np
[03:30] <meuhlol> re$
[03:30] <danny500> so if I ever have to do this again all I type is " sudo mkdir -p /home/danny500" ?
[03:31] <danny500> then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/danny500/" ?
[03:31] <DaveQB> danny500  if the folder doesnt already exist
[03:31] <DaveQB> danny500  if it does, then skip that step [the step to make the dir 'mkdir
[03:31] <meuhlol> danny500: mkdir is only for making directory :)
[03:31] <DaveQB> '] 
[03:32] <johny> help
[03:32] <anon32> !terminal | danny500
[03:32] <ubotu> danny500: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:32] <johny> sorry
[03:32] <anon32> you might wanna read that some time
[03:33] <danny500> ok thanks guy's / gurls :D
[03:33] <johny> Is compiz enebled in Feisty by default?
[03:33] <ssaa> hello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller pleas
[03:34] <ssaa> johny: no it's not
[03:34] <anon32> johey, no
[03:34] <johny> ssaa: So only in Ubuntu, right?
[03:34] <ssaa> fjohny: feisty is a version of ubuntu
[03:34] <BloodyTux> will some one here help key locker?
[03:35] <ssaa> johny: feisty is version 7.04. All the versions have a name
[03:35] <johny> ssaa: I mean - Ubuntu has more features included in new release than Kubuntu, that's all. Is it right?
[03:36] <danny500> where abouts is the trash bin folder?
[03:36] <korobase> A lot of programs crashed after I logon the kubuntu's desktop!!!
[03:36] <stoft> nn
[03:36] <korobase> How to fix this bug?
[03:36] <danny500> or does sudo rm blah blah blah totally remove the data?
[03:37] <johny> !rules |korobase
[03:37] <ubotu> korobase: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:37] <rmd_> danny500: that depends on if "the data" is contained in that package, another package, or maybe a hidden folder
[03:37] <mahdi> danny500: trash:/
[03:37] <ssaa> johny: it has the same features. Kubuntu is based in kde and Ubuntu in Gnome . thats the difference
[03:37] <ssaa> hello . i need some help please. I need to make the horizontal scroll area of my touchpad smaller please
[03:37] <ssaa> anyone?
[03:38] <mahdi> ssaa: not sure, but is that controlled by xorg.conf?
[03:38] <danny500> does sudo rm totally remove data or just move it to the trash bin?
[03:38] <mahdi> danny500: it removes it
[03:38] <ssaa> nevermind i found a solution
[03:38] <anon32> danny500, it unlinks the files so they're more or less gone
[03:38] <danny500> ok thanks
[03:38] <ssaa> johny: need more help?
[03:38] <johny> ssaa: Hmm...despite I don't think you're right - Just compare Kubuntu's new features to Ubuntu's one ( I mean, Desktop changes) not kernel and xorg..
[03:38] <danny500> I just removed the fresh prince :(
[03:39] <danny500> oh well, I need a ddv burner to burn the stuff and remove it
[03:39] <korobase> ubotu:I need help.don't need the rules or any Guidelines.
[03:39] <danny500> dvd*
[03:39] <ssaa> johny: like what changes?
[03:39] <johny> ssaa: wait please
[03:39] <korobase> ubotu is a bot?
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <DaveQB> lol
[03:40] <BloodyTux> !guidlines
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidlines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <BloodyTux> !rules
[03:40] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:40] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:40] <mahdi> johny: the only new features i've seen are restricted drivers and desktop effects
[03:40] <korobase> !crash
[03:40] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[03:41] <korobase> ubotu:crash kubuntu.
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crash kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <carutsu> hello, do someone know how i can install Thunderbird 2.0?
[03:41] <carutsu> is it on the repos?
[03:41] <johny> ssaa: these are Ubuntu's features --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour and here --> Kubuntu's ---> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php
[03:41] <korobase> carutsu:sudo apt-get install thunderbird.
[03:42] <carutsu> korobase: nop that's 1.5 i already have it
[03:42] <carutsu> i want 2.0
[03:43] <mahdi> in all fairness, that ubuntu link is actually a list of changes in fiesty, the kubuntu link is an introduction to kubuntu
[03:43] <korobase> carutsu:you can download the version 2.0 and install it.
[03:44] <carutsu> korobase: from source...
[03:44] <korobase> no.
[03:44] <carutsu> then?
[03:44] <korobase> binary which have been builded.
[03:45] <Mena> Why my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds
[03:45] <Mena> and every time restart and i tried recovery mode
[03:45] <johny> korobase: You might have to compile it from source ---> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Linux_Build_Prerequisites
[03:45] <Mena> do same thing
[03:45] <korobase> carutsu:http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[03:46] <carutsu> korobase: Let me check
[03:46] <johny> .seen Jucato
[03:46] <soulrider__> !seen jucato
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <danny500> ok I'm going to check and see if all is good now, If I don't return in 40 minutes the all is good :) thanks guy's
[03:47] <soulrider__> doesnt work anymore johny
[03:47] <johny> soulrider__: Sorry, what doesn't work?
[03:47] <korobase> any body meet many crash of kubuntu's application program?
[03:48] <soulrider__> the seen feature
[03:48] <soulrider__> korobase: nope
[03:48] <zibrah3ed> adept
[03:48] <korobase> kicker.
[03:48] <korobase> why and how to fix all this problems?
[03:49] <zibrah3ed> what is your first language korobase there may be an ubuntu chat better suited for you
[03:49] <azgtem> why can't i boot a recent cd (not even the alternate, not even i386) on a k6-2 computer? for instance, as soon as i press enter at the "boot:" prompt (no matter what kernel options) my computer simply restarts!
[03:49] <korobase> no.I am using kubuntu,not ubuntu.
[03:49] <johny> soulrider__: ah..thanks. Did it ever work?
[03:49] <zibrah3ed> same thing
[03:50] <soulrider__> it used to
[03:51] <zibrah3ed>  At what speed did you burn the livecd
[03:51] <Mena> Why my kubuntu every time i try to start it it do system check and while checking root part give message fail and system will be restart in 5 seconeds
[03:51] <johny> soulrider: Do you know what language was it written in by chance?
[03:51] <soulrider> no idea
[03:51] <Mena> and every time restart and i tried recovery mode do same thing
[03:52] <BloodyTux> whats a good im thing besides kopete and gaim?
[03:52] <Mena> nothing as i guess
[03:52] <anon32> BloodyTux, konversation
[03:52] <johny> Mena: Have you tried to check the root partition?
[03:52] <BloodyTux> k
[03:52] <Mena> johny, i cant
[03:52] <BloodyTux> wait, konversation is for irc
[03:52] <korobase> carutsu:maybe we must using thunderbird from source's building.I download the binary and find there is a share lib error while run this program.
[03:53] <anon32> OMG, mozilla's build reqs say that compiling Firefox needs over 1GB RAM!
[03:53] <Mena> johny, in recovery mode it do fsck imeddiatly
[03:53] <zibrah3ed> Mena go to /etc/fstab and edit the tail of your root partition to "0 0" instead of "0 1" will shut off self che
[03:53] <carutsu> korobase: er, ok, im downloading it
[03:53] <johny> Mena: you could use a live version...and do a normal check from console
[03:53] <sam_> does anyone know how to set in config .the number of desktops to start with?
[03:53] <Mena> zibrah3ed, and this wth LiveCd ...ok
[03:54] <zibrah3ed> si'
[03:54] <Mena> johny, i wil ltry if didnt work i will do zibrah3ed way >>> :) thanks
[03:54] <zibrah3ed> its a hack and really won't solve your problem but will let you find out if your hd is trashed
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> if hd ok it will boot
[03:55] <Mena> zibrah3ed, ok
[03:55] <johny> sam_: Maybe just checking the settings where those desktops are located will set them by default...
[03:55] <Mena> Bye
[03:55] <Mena> Thanks
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> hol
[03:55] <johny> Mena: bye
[03:56] <korobase> Bye,all
[03:56] <sam_> johny: it's a strange one...used kcontrol and changed them..everytime i log back in have 2 instead of 4
[03:56] <johny> sam_: Then asking in #kde may help...
[03:56] <sam_> doh....whoops...wrong chnnel
[03:57] <mahdi> anybody else had problems with samba after upgrading to fiesty? all my shares stopped working
[03:57] <johny> sam_: It's ok :-D
[03:57] <sam_> doh
[03:58] <Phantasee> Yeeha!
[03:58] <Phantasee> I have a small issue.
[03:58] <zibrah3ed> ....
[03:58] <johny> go ahed then --:D
[03:58] <Phantasee> I'm wondering how I can find out what libraries come with Kubuntu dapper
[03:59] <Phantasee> so that i can just get the ones i need that don't come with it. the kubuntu rig isn't connected to the internet
[03:59] <Phantasee> so it's an issue for me.
[03:59] <zibrah3ed> are you trying to upgrade?
[04:00] <Phantasee> no, i'm trying to install a bunch of applications.
[04:00] <Phantasee> some games, some more serious programs.
[04:00] <zibrah3ed> that aren't part of the base system?
[04:00] <Phantasee> I would assume they aren't, because I get messages telling me the required libraries are missing.
[04:01] <Phantasee> oh, no, the applications aren't part of the base system.
[04:01] <zibrah3ed> do you have acess to a usb key
[04:01] <Phantasee> I lost mine. =(
[04:01] <zibrah3ed> damn
[04:01] <Phantasee> I usually just burn everything to a blank CD-R, since I have a few of them lying around, but obviously I can't just keep doing that.
[04:02] <zibrah3ed> well what i do to my comps that are off network is   to d/l the .debs and use apt to install the local packages
[04:02] <Phantasee> Say, if my USB key was a U3 smart drive, would that work very well with linux?
[04:03] <zibrah3ed> out of my league
[04:03] <Phantasee> i did dl the debs. i burned them all to cd, and when i copied them to the hdd, i tried to use the install programs menu
[04:03] <redfive> anyone know how to get nspluginwrapper wo work?
[04:03] <Phantasee> but i had to right click to install the packages.
[04:03] <zibrah3ed> you need to add the cd in the repositories
[04:04] <Phantasee> i'm sorry?
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> you were trying to se adept correct
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> use
[04:04] <Phantasee> yeah. i think. i'm fairly certain.
[04:05] <zibrah3ed> go to adept-->manage repositories
[04:06] <zibrah3ed> on title bar of adept
[04:06] <carutsu> korobase: I downloaded from the site
[04:06] <Phantasee> okay.
[04:06] <carutsu> korobase: and it works perfectly
[04:07] <Phantasee> so then i have to make it think the cd is a repository, which lets it install properly?
[04:07] <carutsu> Korobase: may be you dont have some libraries? I must tell you i already have Thunderbird 1.5, may be that's why i have the needed libraries, i dont know
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> should popup a window
[04:07] <Phantasee> the issue is a lot of the programs had a long list of required libraries, but i assumed they came with kubuntu.
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> go to 3rd party software
[04:07] <Phantasee> aye
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> then at bottom add cdrom
[04:08] <Phantasee> k, i'll give that a shot
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> never tried it on feisty but worked on dapper
[04:08] <Phantasee> but i had copied the contents of the cd to the hdd. so everything on it was already available.
[04:08] <zibrah3ed> where did you copy it too
[04:09] <Phantasee> my home folder, in a sub folder, actually
[04:09] <Phantasee> i right clicked, and it gave me an option to install the packages, which it did, in a small white window
[04:09] <zibrah3ed> unless you point adept there it won't see them
[04:09] <Phantasee> it installed a lot of them, but some said they needed certain libraries
[04:09] <Phantasee> like celestia, for example.
[04:10] <Phantasee> it's in the games section, i believe, but i thoought it would be interesting to see what the program could do, so i got that
[04:10] <zibrah3ed> did you meet all the dependencies
[04:10] <Phantasee> along with the files
[04:10] <zibrah3ed> thats the trouble d/l single debs
[04:11] <Phantasee> i dont' think i did, which is why i want to know how i can find out what libraries dapper comes with, so i can get the ones i dont have.
[04:11] <thony> hi
[04:11] <gtrplr> is there a way to roll back updates/upgrades ?
[04:11] <gtrplr> back to a "fresh install" state ?
[04:12] <zibrah3ed> check out /etc/apt/sources.list and go throug the servers to find your file
[04:12] <gtrplr> without reinstalling
[04:12] <gtrplr> ah
[04:12] <gtrplr> hadnt thought of that
[04:13] <Phantasee> sorry, where would that be? on the machine running it? or is it on the internet?
[04:13] <zibrah3ed> you would need to use the inernet
[04:13] <ubuntu> hello
[04:13] <BloodyTux> hi
[04:14] <zibrah3ed> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[04:14] <dwidmann> :O seems we can now preorder Hitachi 1TB drives for $399
[04:14] <Phantasee> ah
[04:14] <zibrah3ed> will be an ftp site
[04:15] <thony> new to linus stuffy
[04:15] <thony> ...linux i mean
[04:15] <zibrah3ed> linus was good
[04:15] <Phantasee> i'm not sure what i'm looking for here...
[04:15] <zibrah3ed> name of the creator
[04:16] <thony> mmmmmmmmmmh
[04:16] <Phantasee> @dwidmann where can we preorder the drives? and that's US$?
[04:16] <dwidmann> Phantasee: let me check, friend linked me to it, yeah USD
[04:18] <mahdi> is there any good replacement for samba?
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> mahdi, as far as i know, samba's it if you want to talk to win machines
[04:18] <_4strO> mahdi: samba ^^
[04:18] <HymnToLife> mahdi, for file transfers, FTP
[04:19] <HymnToLife> samba is awfully unreliable, especialy on the Windows side
[04:19] <mahdi> i'd rather a stable file sharing protocol, but after i upgrade to fiesty it sh*t the bed
[04:19] <mahdi> i tried working around with ftp and didn't get it
[04:19] <Phantasee> well, i'll have a poke around, thanks a bunch zibrah3ed!
[04:19] <zibrah3ed> windows in a vm
[04:20] <zibrah3ed> k
[04:21] <mahdi> is there a good how-to on running a local ftp server?
[04:21] <dwidmann> gah, I think my Kopete logging is messed up :\
[04:23] <mahdi> i nabbed gproftpd but i didn't quite get it, and the documentation is for people who know what they are talking about.
[04:23] <zibrah3ed> lo
[04:23] <_4strO> http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[04:24] <Jucato> dwidmann: how is it messed up?
[04:25] <dwidmann> Jucato: history seems to have disappeared as an option, much to my dismay
[04:25] <mahdi> any folder i try to share, when i navigate to it, says "blah/blah/blah does not exist"
[04:25] <dwidmann> wait, it's back again, seems to be tied to my online status o.O
[04:25] <Jucato> O.o
[04:26] <_4strO> mahdi: http://www.vsftpdrocks.org/ and http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[04:26] <_4strO> mahdi: for vsftpd configuration
[04:26] <dwidmann> Even  more helpfully, my previous history doesn't seem to be available
[04:26] <mahdi> thanks, taking a look at it
[04:27] <Jucato> dwidmann: aw... :/
[04:27] <dwidmann> I wonder if I missed some chowning/chmodding when I moved everything over to my shiny new etch install
[04:28] <dwidmann> at any rate, I have andrew hunting down where he found the link to the hitachi 1TB drive ...
[04:29] <Markeda> Um, does Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?
[04:29] <Sleepy_Coder> I think I might have too much free time:  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/photoricon/too_much_free_time.jpg
[04:30] <dwidmann> seems stuff is all over google for it though, ... maybe the one page was an old one, because here is a review of it http://www.pcworld.com/product/specs/id,29924-c,harddrives/specs.html
[04:30] <Mena> Is there a bug  abot running Gparted on kubuntu
[04:30] <Mena> about
[04:30] <HymnToLife> Mena, not that I know of
[04:30] <HymnToLife> do you have a problem running it ?
[04:31] <Mena> HymnToLife, NEVER MIND IT OPENED NOW
[04:31] <Mena> HymnToLife, why they didnt include qparted on the installtion
[04:32] <Jucato> Mena: QtParted is included in the Desktop (Live) CD but isn't installed by default when you install Kubuntu
[04:33] <Mena> Jucato, OK
[04:33] <Jucato> (probably based on the presumption that you don't always reformat/repartition your drives)
[04:34] <Mena> Jucato, ok
[04:34] <Mena> ok thanks bye
[04:35] <mahdi> oh good lord did vsftpd give me ten thousand make errors
[04:35] <voidmage> argh.
[04:36] <voidmage> for the third time firefox has crashed and "forgotten" my open tabs
[04:37] <mahdi> !pastebin
[04:37] <mahdi> still haven't figured out how to use that dumb bot.
[04:38] <morvok__> anyone farmiliar with Silo?
[04:39] <dwidmann> Sleepy_Coder: You do have too much free time, can I borrow some?
[04:39] <parad0x`> sup
[04:39] <Sleepy_Coder> :D
[04:39] <voidmage> firefox+kde: does anybody else have random crashes?
[04:40] <mahdi> this is going to sound horribly ignorant, but how do you figure out your ip address if you're behind a router?
[04:40] <thony> morvok:SILO, the Sparc Improved boot LOader, is a booting loader program that runs from the PROM of SPARC (32-bit) and UltraSPARC (64-bit) based systems, covered by the terms of the GNU General Public Licence. It can be used for the booting of operating systems from a variety of file systems.
[04:40] <parad0x`> i do when i try and use java apps in firefox
[04:40] <dwidmann> mahdi: go to www.ipaddress.com
[04:41] <thony> http://www.sparc-boot.org/
[04:41] <mahdi> dwidmannL wow, neat, thanks!
[04:42] <stanley> anybody know how to do offline message sending in kopete using an msn messenger account??
[04:43] <parad0x`> use gaim
[04:43] <dwidmann> mahdi: you're welcome
[04:44] <dwidmann> stanley: the offline messages are a server-side thing, that's why it works with yahoo and not msn or aim
[04:44] <stanley> hmmm ok
[04:46] <Markeda> Does Kubuntu 7.04 come with the stuff needed to install a program from the source (or whatever .tar.gz files are)?
[04:46] <dac_> have ubuntu 7.04 In files in desktop, can this replace my 6.06 OC that's on my HD now?
[04:47] <scast> Can anyone please tell me what's the command to run konqueror from console like I was just clicking the System Menu and clicking Home Menu?
[04:47] <dwidmann> Markeda: no, you'll need to install the build-essential package, and probably run something like "sudo apt-get build-dep whateverpackageitisyouwanttobuild
[04:48] <dwidmann> "
[04:48] <dwidmann> scast: it's painfully obvious actually, the command to run konqueror is ... konquero
[04:48] <dwidmann> **konqueror
[04:48] <Markeda> . .. ... Odd. Seems like an odd thing not to include in an OS, but thanks for the info.
[04:48] <TheDebugger> konqueror --profile filemanagement
[04:49] <tycho> Markeda: Unless you were asking about decompressing .tar.gz files, in which case you can just use tar -xvf whatever.tar.gz
[04:49] <scast> dwidmann: it's not the same windows that shows up when you run "konqueror" than the one you get when you go to System Menu and select Home Folder... I want the one that opens with the Home Folder.
[04:49] <TheDebugger> konqueror --profile filemanagement
[04:49] <TheDebugger> .....
[04:49] <TheDebugger> Learn to read
[04:50] <dac_> ok,ty
[04:50] <dwidmann> TheDebugger: prefix the message with their name so it highlights it in red for them
[04:50] <dwidmann> makes it harder to miss
[04:50] <scast> I guess he's having a bad day?
[04:51] <Markeda> tycho, no. I have it extracted via right-click->extract here, then went to the terminal, got into the folder and was trying to do the ./configure stuff... Trying to install sunbird.
[04:51] <tycho> Markeda: Ah, you're way ahead of me ;-)
[04:52] <thony> any knows 'baot a software used to run .exe files in kubuntu?
[04:52] <billymobile> anyone familiar with apcups on kubuntu?
[04:52] <dwidmann> thony: never heard of it, I use WINE for that
[04:53] <thony> dwidmann:lol
[04:54] <thony> sw
[04:54] <thony> dwidmann:thnx
[04:55] <scast> Heh, I can't really believe TheDebugger got mad because I missed his answer.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Jucato: Yes, installing an Edgy Nvu .deb _should_ work for the time being.  !nvu has info on getting a Feisty pkg eventually.
[04:57] <Jucato> tonyyarusso: heh... wasn't that something I mentioned/asked 2 days ago? :D
[04:58] <beer|drunk> what video podcast rss reader do you guys recomend"
[04:58] <Jucato> anyway, thanks. I now know where to point people's attention :)
[04:58] <Mena> Why the air temp wont work although i installed s.m.a.r.t tools and lm-senors ....what else i need
[04:59] <dwidmann> Mena: you probably havne't set up lm-sensors properly
[04:59] <beer|drunk> stdin: do you have to wait for the download, or can you watch while you are downloading?
[04:59] <Mena> dwidmann, no i did
[04:59] <dwidmann> positive about that?
[05:00] <dwidmann> lm-sensors should net you the cpu temp and motherboard temp. Granted, you have to have the physical sensors for it to work (of course)
[05:00] <Mena> dwidmann, yes
[05:00] <stdin> beer|drunk: you have to wait, but I just have it run at a certain time every day
[05:00] <stdin> beer|drunk: so it's already downloaded
[05:00] <Mena> dwidmann, it was working on edgy !
[05:01] <beer|drunk> cool
[05:01] <dwidmann> Mena: might require some re-setting up if you dist-upgraded, maybe (I doubt it though)
[05:01] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's all command line tho, don't know if that bothers you or not
[05:02] <Mena> dwidmann, what if i remove it and install again does tat would help
[05:02] <infanta> hello
[05:02] <dwidmann> could
[05:02] <dwidmann> (I make no promises Mena)
[05:02] <dwidmann> hi
[05:02] <Mena> dwidmann, ok and i have a clean installtion
[05:03] <infanta> can anyone tell me where to download the latest version of Kubuntu? iam a novice
[05:03] <dwidmann> infanta: http://www.kubuntu.org/download
[05:03] <dwidmann> I thin
[05:03] <dwidmann> k
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Jucato: more like this morning
[05:03] <beer|drunk> stdin: not really... just never used it before
[05:04] <Jucato> tonyyarusso: oh I have my timezones wrong again :)
[05:04] <infanta> thanx dwidmann.. more power
[05:04] <Jucato> hm... novice... reminds me of Ragnarok Online... :/
[05:04] <Jucato> !download | infanta
[05:04] <dwidmann> wait, http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:04] <Jucato> hm.. ubotu's lagging...
[05:04] <dwidmann> Jucato: what else is new?
[05:04] <Jucato> :)
[05:04] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's quite simple, and I just set a cron job for it to check/download daily
[05:05] <beer|drunk> i will have to look it up
[05:06] <stdin> beer|drunk: it's in universe anyway
[05:06] <Mena> Thanks >>>bye
[05:06] <vecina> Why cant anyone help me
[05:06] <vecina> :/
[05:07] <dwidmann> vecina: where's your question?
[05:07] <Jucato> 1. you haven't asked your question. 2. if you did, we didn't see it
[05:07] <vecina> dwidmann: On forums, and here in the chat room for time to time for the last week...
[05:07] <hephaestus_> how can i setup the keyboard model on netbeans?
[05:07] <dwidmann> Jucato: it wasn't asked within the last 2-3 hours
[05:07] <vecina> I want to know why i have to reinstall dbus, hal and pal about every time i log on, or else everything messes up :)
[05:07] <dwidmann> ctrl + f doesn't lie :P
[05:07] <Jucato> dwidmann: I did a quick search and realized that :)
[05:08] <vecina> for example, dbus has to be reinstalled or i have no automount, and if i dont reinstall hal, nexuiz and other graphic-iintensive programs crash my computer
[05:08] <dwidmann> vecina: I've no idea
[05:08] <BluesKaj> is there an alternative to azureus and ktorrent ...ktorrent keeps crashing an azureus is a hawg ... any suggestions ?
[05:08] <vecina> Nobody does
[05:08] <vecina> dwidmann: I seem to be the only person with this issue
[05:09] <dwidmann> vecina: did you have this problem in earlier versions of ubuntu?
[05:09] <Jucato> very strange indeed
[05:09] <stdin> !torrent
[05:09] <vecina> dwidmann: No but this is a new computer....
[05:09] <Jucato> vecina: have you checked if a bug has been reported about it?
[05:09] <stdin> damn ubotu :p
[05:09] <Jucato> stdin: still on coffee break :)
[05:09] <BluesKaj> !bitorrent
[05:09] <dwidmann> vecina: it's worth a shot, see if the problem is present with something like Kubuntu Edgy, or Debian Etch
[05:09] <vecina> Jucato: i looked around, didnt see anything close to it. Except one guy had his dbus borked, but he reinstalled and that just fixed it
[05:10] <vecina> My dbus gets borked a lot
[05:10] <vecina> I also notice a lot of error messages when i log off... are those in a log file?
[05:10] <stdin> BluesKaj: just search adept for bittorrent, there are some alternatives. like qtorrent
[05:10] <dwidmann> could be, depends which programs spitting out the errors
[05:11] <vecina> dwidmann: Its complaining about my "hald"
[05:11] <vecina> hardware abstraction layer daeomn
[05:11] <BluesKaj> yes stdin thx , I'm in the process
[05:11] <dwidmann> vecina: did the live/install cd give you any trouble like that?
[05:11] <vecina> The worst thing is that sometimes when i press control-alt-backspace, the framebuffer kicks in. Im on a Radeon x700, so of course framebuffer means my monitor loses connection. :(
[05:12] <vecina> dwidmann: Well the live cd wouldnt load up because of frame buffer, i had to do a text install
[05:13] <dwidmann> vecina: ah. I still think trying with something that uses a different version of dbus/hal/linux-kernel might be worth a try
[05:13] <vecina> Why is it so hard to get a stable operating system on a SATA harddrive, AMD64, ATI Radeon x700 computer.....
[05:13] <vecina> dwidmann:Huh? like what?
[05:14] <dwidmann> vecina: kubuntu edgy, debian etch, etc
[05:14] <vecina> :( Edgy's packages are deprecated
[05:16] <dwidmann> vecina: etch's aren't
[05:16] <Jucato> well... they are a bit... but sid's definitely aren't...
[05:16] <vecina> dwidmann: Ive never used anything but kubuntu
[05:16] <dwidmann> Jucato: sid doesn't know how to be deprecated
[05:16] <vecina> dwidmann: and windoze
[05:17] <dwidmann> vecina: debian is what kubuntu is based on
[05:17] <Jucato> (old joke: Ubuntu is an African word for "can't install Debian")
[05:17] <vecina> dwidmann: *sigh* Do i really have to go through the trouble of learning a new environment just so i can get back to having a stable desktop?
[05:18] <dwidmann> vecina: It's really not going to be all that different
[05:18] <ubotu> infanta: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:18] <tin> what do you mean edgy's packages are deprecated?
[05:18] <dwidmann> Kubuntu is *heavily* based on Debian
[05:18] <vecina> dwidmann: I guess... i wish there was another solution
[05:18] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Jucato> vecina: since you've been asking already, I think it wouldn't hurt if you asked in #ubuntu-devel (not really sure how they'll take it though.. might forward you to #ubuntu )
[05:18] <tin> i installed ubuntu edgy a couple days ago and it got all the updates
[05:18] <stdin> ooh it's awake
[05:19] <tin> before i did the system upgrade to feisty
[05:19] <jjj__> whats the advantage of debian over gentoo and fedora and others?
[05:19] <vecina> tin: for example, edgy's Blender package is one version old
[05:19] <jjj__> :-)
[05:19] <vecina> Jucato: #ubuntu-devel?
[05:19] <Jucato> vecina: you have to take release schedules into account
[05:19] <tin> vecina: do you NEED blender 2.43 instead of 2.42?
[05:19] <Jucato> vecina: or #ubuntu take your pick
[05:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: it's not that *heavily* based on Debian though...
[05:19] <tin> if so, just get it from blender3d.org
[05:20] <vecina> tin: I like the sculpting tool. Plus you need the new version of Wesnoth to play it online
[05:20] <tin> you could always add fiesty's repos if you needed too i think
[05:20] <vecina> tin: Point is, you cant stay up to date without recompiling and such.
[05:20] <tin> vecina: stable > up to date
[05:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: certainly looks like it is to me
[05:21] <Jucato> vecina: though you don't need to compile blender at all
[05:21] <vecina> tin: I suppose... :/
[05:21] <tin> my server is running freebsd 5.4
[05:21] <tin> it's not "up to date" per se, but it's bedrock stable
[05:21] <dwidmann> same core packages for the most part, debian forces you to for the most part build up from scratch, kubuntu just gives a set of defaults, all  of which (give or take) can be found in debian's repos.
[05:22] <tin> i even looked up some info on upgrading to 6.x, but decided to wait anyway
[05:22] <vecina> i like the simplicity of sudo aptitude install (program), bam, i have the newest version.
[05:22] <vecina> its even in my start menu all nice and neat
[05:23] <tin> FreeBSD joker.tin.hopto.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May  8 10:21:06 UTC 2005
[05:24] <tin> i guess non of the security errata affected it, that's the first and only kernel (and world) i've built in two years
[05:24] <tin> vecina: it is, and i'm glad fiesty handles my hardware (almost) perfectly
[05:25] <tin> but fiesty IS brandy new
[05:25] <vecina> i know :/ but i dont think this problem is normal
[05:25] <tin> my only problem is that blender doesn't display correctly
[05:26] <ririco> hello
[05:26] <ririco> anyone can tell me how can i get dc++ or revconnect for kubuntu?
[05:27] <vecina> even worse, my windows installation is actually more stable. That hurts my head.
[05:27] <vecina> of course, its got spyware all over it...
[05:29] <dwidmann> ririco: I wonder if the "dcgui" packe would be it
[05:29] <ririco> thanx dwidmann
[05:29] <lontra> does azureus work too?
[05:31] <intelikey> i've got an odd sort of "how did it do that" kind of thing going on.   on shutdown/reboot the root fs is not getting remounted,ro  but on startup it's testing as clean      ???
[05:31] <intelikey> are ext3 fs's always marked as clean ?
[05:32] <stdin> no
[05:32] <stdin> not always
[05:32] <trix`G> umm... what is the default root password for kubuntu?
[05:32] <intelikey> none
[05:32] <stdin> !root | trix`G
[05:32] <ubotu> trix`G: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <dwidmann> by default the root account is locked
[05:32] <trix`G> ubotu: I know.
[05:32] <intelikey> by default there is no root password
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <trix`G> oh that's a bot lol
[05:33] <Jucato> dwidmann: nothing is "by default" when it comes to intelikey.... you should know that by now :)
[05:33] <trix`G> then how can I unlock it so I can log into root normally?
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: read the link
[05:33] <intelikey> Jucato
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: it tells you how
[05:33] <Jucato> hi intelikey :)
[05:33] <trix`G> stdin: thanks!
[05:33] <intelikey> oh that wasn't a slam then ?
[05:33] <stdin> trix`G: tho I don't know why you'll need a root account enabled
[05:33] <lontra> is there a way to make konqueror look like it does by default without the kubuntu fixes?
[05:34] <intelikey> or are you just grinning about slamin' me ?
[05:34] <lontra> i.e. the default konqueror profile
[05:34] <Jucato> intelikey: wasn't a slam
[05:34] <Jucato> lontra: try this http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[05:34] <Jucato> intelikey: likewise :)
[05:34] <intelikey> :)
[05:35] <intelikey> Jucato any thoughts on this fs question ?
[05:35] <Jucato> nope... I rarely touch fs related stuff... :(
[05:35] <intelikey> k
[05:35] <intelikey> i'll leave the networking stuff for you then.   :)
[05:36] <Jucato> hehe
[05:36] <stdin> intelikey: so when the system is halted or restarted the rootfs is mounted ro?
[05:37] <intelikey> stdin no.     i mean yes initialy it is but the startup scripts do the fs check and / says clean so it's remounted rw     but on shutdown i'm seeing an error root fs is busy and can't be remounted ro    so it's shouldn't be clean on startup.
[05:38] <stdin> hmm
[05:38] <intelikey> "it's shouldn't"   hehhe syntax error
[05:39] <jhutchins> You haave at least one system file that is hanging open.
[05:39] <stdin> maybe something has a file open (eg log files) and so it can't be unmounted
[05:39] <stdin> so then it's mounted ro
[05:40] <stdin> to prevent further writing
[05:40] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah something like that.
[05:40] <intelikey> stdin you can never umount /
[05:40] <stdin> I see it sometimes on one of my PCs sometimes, but not every time
[05:40] <intelikey> only remount ro
[05:40] <stdin> intelikey: it does at reboot, when it tries to unmount everything
[05:40] <intelikey> have to kill init to umount /
[05:41] <stdin> exactly
[05:41] <intelikey> can't kill init or kernel panics
[05:41] <jager> projectm rules my face
[05:41] <jager> omg yes
[05:41] <jager> apropos of nothing i guess
[05:41] <hsystem-x> !bad errors
[05:42] <hsystem-x> !bad
[05:42] <hsystem-x> !error
[05:42] <stdin> hsystem-x: just ask the question
[05:43] <hsystem-x> just want to see the instructions to eliminate those bad errors table in xorg
[05:43] <intelikey> net split ?    or just bot dropped out....
[05:44] <Jucato> !baddevice
[05:44] <intelikey> i can still see the startup messages       * checking the root file system....
[05:44] <intelikey>  /dev/root: clean, 26473/529056 files, 136748/1056265 blocks
[05:44] <intelikey> [ ok ] 
[05:45] <stdin> hsystem-x: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:45] <stdin> intelikey: force a check if you want
[05:46] <intelikey> made the last process before the power off call do a touch /unclean       and   ls /
[05:46] <intelikey> UNCLEAN  boot  etc
[05:46] <intelikey> there it is... so it wasn't ro at power off.
[05:47] <intelikey> i'm just trying ot figure out how it's doing this....   i'll fix it after i figure out exactly what is happening.
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[05:51] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:52] <intelikey> wow talk about lag....
[05:52] <Jucato> :)
[05:52] <stdin> only 10 mins this time
[05:52] <Sleepy_Coder> lol
[05:52] <hsystem-x> lol
[05:53] <hsystem-x> Uh i got a question, what is the name of this aplication that usually we use to kill apps, just clicking on the app.
[05:53] <intelikey> here are the last two things that run  http://pastebin.ca/466840 <<<  on a reboot.    and the  touch command is making the file so it's not ro....    why is it showing as clean on the fs check at startup ?
[05:53] <hsystem-x> kill what?
[05:54] <stdin> hsystem-x: xkill?
[05:54] <hsystem-x> yeah maybe that, let me see.
[05:54] <intelikey> xkill
[05:54] <hsystem-x> it is, thank you.
[05:54] <Jucato> hsystem-x: or Ctrl+Alt+Esc (in KDE only)
[05:54] <intelikey> poisons your mouse cursor so you can kill with a click
[05:55] <Jucato> or rather enchants your mouse cursor with poison :)
[05:55] <intelikey> "same diff"   ;p
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> mouse of killing+1 :)
[05:55] <Jucato> patch -p0 < diff?
[05:56] <Jucato> you got it hitmanWilly :D
[05:56] <intelikey> death mouse -9
[05:57] <Jucato> :)
[05:57] <stdin> intelikey: pastebin.ca is lagging worse that ubotu
[05:58] <intelikey> then it's the whole internet.....   i think there is a squerm or something hitting the M$ side of things........
[05:58] <intelikey> those wormy servers.......
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> youtube seems fine...
[05:59] <intelikey> pastebin.ca was fine for me...
[05:59] <intelikey> !botsnack
[05:59] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:59] <intelikey> and ubotu's ok now.
[06:00] <stdin> not here (UK)
[06:01] <intelikey> changed isp's last week,  the new one has been down 4 of the last 7 days....    i think the change was a bad idea....
[06:03] <hsystem-x> damn... i can't fix the bad device errors, X crash...
[06:04] <hsystem-x> and i just commented the 3 tables
[06:04] <hsystem-x> of wascom or wacom, whatever.
[06:04] <stdin> hsystem-x: and the ones in the "Section "ServerLayout"" ?
[06:04] <intelikey> hsystem-x and the three referances to them later on ?
[06:04] <hsystem-x> let me see.
[06:04] <flaccid0s> quite annoying hey
[06:06] <intelikey> flaccid0s  http://pastebin.ca/466840    how can / be clean on startup if it's making /UNCLEAN at shutdown ?
[06:06] <hsystem-x> Section "ServerLayout"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	Identifier	"Default Layout"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	Screen		"Default Screen"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
[06:06] <stdin> !paste
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> 	InputDevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
[06:06] <hsystem-x> EndSection
[06:06] <hsystem-x> what reference on server layout?
     InputDevice     "stylus"        "SendCoreEvents"
     InputDevice     "cursor"        "SendCoreEvents"
     InputDevice     "eraser"        "SendCoreEvents"
[06:07] <souza> boa noite
[06:07] <flaccid0s> hsystem-x: stop it!!!
[06:08] <flaccid0s> dunno intelikey
[06:09] <Alonea> anyone ever installed ie6 on wine? I can't seem to get it to install.
[06:09] <intelikey> flaccid0s yeah me too.   i'm buffalo'd
[06:09] <intelikey> !wine
[06:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:09] <intelikey> see the link
[06:09] <stdin> Alonea: ask in #winehq too, they are the experts
[06:10] <jarn> http://worldrc.wadsworth.com/
[06:10] <intelikey> also see winehq.org and check the list of things that "will not run" in wine
[06:11] <stdin> jarn: ??
[06:11] <Alonea> intelikey: its supposed to run, but I am wondering if this is an ubuntu thing.
[06:11] <jarn> Er.
[06:11] <jarn> Um.
[06:11] <jarn> I thought I copied something else, apparently not.
[06:11] <Alonea> I need it so I can try to install another problem that requires ie
[06:11] <jarn> What's the best program for managing ID3 tags?
[06:11] <jarn> That's what I thought I had copied.
[06:11] <jarn> stdin: My bad.
[06:12] <stdin> jarn: I've heard good things about easytag
[06:12] <jarn> stdin: Okay, thanks, I'll take a look.
[06:13] <jarn> stdin: I use a great program in Windows called mp3tag, I haven't found anything to rival it yet.
[06:13] <stdin> maybe it will run under wine :p
[06:13] <flaccid0s> amarok :)
[06:13] <hsystem-x> Thanks. Finaly fixed the bad device erros.
[06:13] <stdin> yeah, amarok will do it
[06:14] <hsystem-x> errors*
[06:14] <stdin> hsystem-x: it's one of the 1st things I do after an install
[06:15] <flaccid0s> amarok is good at it
[06:15] <hsystem-x> jeje, those errors are very annoying ...
[06:15] <jarn> stdin: It probably will, but I want a native Linux app.
[06:15] <jarn> flaccid0s: I find Amarok isn't as good at managing ID3 tags as I would like.
[06:16] <flaccid0s> stdin: it is native? define native in this case?
[06:16] <flaccid0s> jarn: oh well
[06:16] <flaccid0s> i mean jarn not stdin
[06:16] <jarn> flaccid0s: I was talking about running mp3tag in wine when I said it's not native, not Amarok.
[06:16] <flaccid0s> go look for something else... http://google.com
[06:17] <flaccid0s> oh
[06:17] <flaccid0s> ok
[06:17] <intelikey> a native linux app ?????    hmmm   modprobe maybe ?    not sure it's even native to the kernel....
[06:18] <stdin>  /mode #kubuntu -pedantic
[06:18] <stdin> (worth a shot)
[06:18] <intelikey> lol
[06:18] <hsystem-x> which messenger client, does you people use? kopete gaim amsn?
[06:18] <intelikey> now that was a slam.....
[06:18] <flaccid0s> yeah this is kubuntu support, not i need a program for my mp3 tags..
[06:18] <intelikey> :)
[06:18] <flaccid0s> kopete
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> gaim here hyper_ch
[06:19] <HymnToLife> kopete here
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> gaim here hsystem-x, rather
[06:19] <easytiger> i just need to say someting
[06:19] <easytiger> 09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0
[06:19] <intelikey> glad you got that out of your system easytiger
[06:19] <easytiger> out of my system and into the logs
[06:20] <intelikey> yeah now go play
[06:20] <jarn> easytiger: What was the point of that? There's no need to put it in the logs.
[06:20] <flaccid0s> at least you aint working on a monster php web app that doesn't have a template engine
[06:20] <HymnToLife> maybe to search for it later ?
[06:20] <jarn> flaccid0s: Isn't an inherent part of Kubuntu support helping people convert from Windows to Linux?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> jarn, no, it's to help people with Kubuntu
[06:21] <flaccid0s> jarn: where does it say that?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> Windows has nothing to do with anything
[06:21] <flaccid0s> thats conversion, not support
[06:21] <flaccid0s> /j #kubuntu-conversion
[06:22] <marconi> oi
[06:22] <intelikey> jarn  ubuntu (linux in general) is software. not a religion.
[06:22] <HymnToLife> flaccid0s, this channel is supposed to be for support only, conversation goes in -offtopic
[06:22] <jarn> intelikey: When did I say something was a religion?
[06:22] <flaccid0s> Hy\
[06:22] <intelikey> did i just say that  ??????
[06:22] <flaccid0s> HymnToLife: it was a joke.... such a channel doesnt' even exist..
[06:22] <marconi> what is your name?
[06:22] <intelikey> never mind, i reacnt.
[06:22] <jarn> intelikey: What I meant was that should not support help people get Kubuntu set up correctly? If it can help people set up programs to play MP3s why not programs for people to edit MP3s?
[06:22] <flaccid0s> i know what this channel is for. i help people here many hours a day
[06:23] <jarn> intelikey: Where do you draw the line?
[06:23] <marconi> brazil
[06:23] <flaccid0s> where we say the line ends?
[06:23] <hsystem-x> is there a channel of kubuntu for programmers, i mean developers?
[06:23] <marconi> and you?
[06:24] <stdin> hsystem-x: the #kubuntu-devel channel
[06:24] <Tm_T> hsystem-x: #kubuntu-devel is for kubuntu devel discussion
[06:24] <HymnToLife> hsystem-x, should be #kubuntu-devs or something
[06:24] <intelikey> jarn where i draw the line, is at propritary krap.   i don't do windows.   good bad or indifferent.
[06:24] <HymnToLife> oh, never mind
[06:24] <Tm_T> intelikey: whatever pleases you
[06:25] <jarn> intelikey: Did I ask anything about Windows? No. I asked what a good program was to edit ID3 takes and specifically wanted one for Linux when someone asked if I could not use Wine for one that I like.
[06:25] <Tm_T> intelikey: I take it case by case, mostly it's just another (worse) option
[06:25] <jarn> intelikey: And Windows is just software, not a pagan religion.
[06:26] <intelikey> Tm_T sure.   hey want to look at this pastebin and see if you can see how my root fs can be rw at power off but clean at startup   http://pastebin.ca/466840
[06:26] <marconi> I am from brazil
[06:28] <intelikey> Tm_T the /UNCLEAN file is there when i power on.   but the fsck says clean and doesnt replay the journal or nothin
[06:28] <Tm_T> well, I have no idea
[06:31] <jarn> intelikey: Were you the guy that was trying to upgrade your comp straight from hoary to feisty a few weeks ago?
[06:32] <intelikey> jarn started to yes.   decided to abort because vanity was the only reason for doing it anyway
[06:32] <jarn> intelikey: So are you still at Hoary? Or are you at some horrible fusion of Hoary and Feisty? :P
[06:32] <intelikey> no
[06:34] <jarn> intelikey: No? I'm not sure that was a yes or no question.
[06:34] <intelikey> mardi that might let the smoke out of those little things on the main board.
[06:35] <flaccid0s> !hoary
[06:35] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[06:35] <intelikey> jarn you gave options,  none fit,  so the answer is no.
[06:35] <flaccid0s> ah ok
[06:35] <jarn> intelikey: Wouldn't the answer be "neither"?
[06:35] <intelikey> indeed
[06:38] <c1|freaky> :D
[06:38] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[06:40] <intelikey> i've added a killall5 in the umountrootfs script i'll see if that helps.
[06:40] <hsystem-x> better compiz or beryl?
[06:40] <flaccid0s> i love it when it works :)
[06:40] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <intelikey> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <hsystem-x> ok, but im asking for your opinions (experience) about those 2.
[06:42] <intelikey> not mine you're not.  i have none.
[06:42] <flaccid0s> #ubuntu-effects for all that convo
[06:52] <intelikey> or part of one.
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> mmmmmmmmmm.......cow.......
[06:57] <intelikey> well that was a lot of beef....   i wish jucato had the other half of that steak....
[06:58] <intelikey> shame we can't dcc send things like that.....
[06:59] <flaccid0s> what about me?
[06:59] <intelikey> gendi can get you come coffee   ?
[07:00] <Jucato> thanks for the beef... I guess I'll ask *genii* for some tea...
[07:00] <Jucato> flaccid0s: if your nick means you're using MS-DOS, then you don't deserve any :P
[07:00] <intelikey> lol
[07:00] <flaccid0s> hahahaha
[07:01] <intelikey> ##plesk #plesk ##opera #pcbsd    mmmmmmm
[07:01] <flaccid0s> nah im just in a hispanic mood :p
[07:01] <flaccid0s> mmm?
[07:01] <Jucato> eeek #opera... you definitely don't deserve any beef :P
[07:01] <flaccid> haha
[07:01] <flaccid> it eats other browsers for breakfast and still remains at ~5MB
[07:01] <Jucato> hm... maybe it's time I took that pc-bsd I got for free out of the shelf...
[07:02] <flaccid> no wonder they don't release the source code...
[07:02] <intelikey> beets bloat-zilla
[07:02] <AussieHatter> I cannot umount my ipod,  /dev/sdc2, it tells me /media/ipod is busy though its not.  nothing is opened, no terminal window, no gui, any ideas ?
[07:03] <Alonea> anyone have any luck in either getting IE 5 or 6 installed in wine or at least making it so if you were to install another program that looks for IE that it thinks its their? Its mentioned in the Useful registry keys and mentions how you might need dlls, but not which dlls.
[07:03] <intelikey> AussieHatter is there an icon on the desktop for it ?
[07:03] <Jucato> Alonea: tried ies4linux?
[07:03] <Jucato> Alonea: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[07:04] <AussieHatter> intelikey: no, the dvd drive icon is on the desktop, which has a disk in and is mounted but thats it
[07:04] <Alonea> Jucato: I don't need the browser to work, and I do have ies4linux, I just need it so I can try installing Musicmatch, which looks to see if IE is installed or no
[07:04] <Alonea> Jucato: trying to install Musicmatch in wine.
[07:04] <flaccid> ah
[07:04] <Jucato> oh ok...
[07:04] <flaccid> its a question of how it checks
[07:05] <intelikey> AussieHatter try ejecting it.
[07:05] <Alonea> Jucato:  http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys, look near the bottom at the top of the HKLM section and see where it talks about making an app believe its installed?
[07:06] <Etokura> Why Musicmatch?
[07:06] <tititmini> can you help me guys
[07:06] <tititmini> pleaseeee....
[07:06] <erikja> !nvidia
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <flaccid> !ask
[07:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:07] <tititmini> my amarok cant play mp3 files....
[07:07] <tititmini> what should i do
[07:08] <intelikey> have you been to the wiki's ?
[07:08] <intelikey> !mp3 | tititmini
[07:08] <ubotu> tititmini: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <tititmini> yup
[07:08] <tititmini> they told me to download a plugins
[07:08] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install easyubuntu
[07:08] <Tm_T> Etokura:
[07:08] <Etokura> Hm?
[07:09] <flaccid> and..?
[07:09] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:09] <Tm_T> Etokura:
[07:09] <AussieHatter> intelikey: cd is unmounted and eject, still kubuntu thinks /dev/sdc2 is busy
[07:09] <intelikey> AussieHatter no i meand try ejecting the device
[07:09] <intelikey> AussieHatter   sudo eject /dev/sdc2
[07:10] <Jucato> tititmini: install the package named "libxine-extracodecs"
[07:10] <intelikey> s/meand/meant/
[07:10] <Alonea> Etokura: On Demand service. Dad pays for it and I really enjoy it. listen to any song you want in any order, as many times are you want, at cd quality, no commercials or nothing.
[07:10] <AussieHatter> intelikey: same thing, umount: /media/ipod: device is busy
[07:10] <Etokura> Huh?
[07:11] <intelikey> AussieHatter ok  sudo fuser -vki /media/ipod
[07:11] <Etokura> Oh
[07:12] <Alonea> Etokura: didn't see your message at first because you didn't use my name. I have so many tabs that I usually don't look at things that dont have the name in it.
[07:12] <intelikey> just another vote against automatic krap
[07:13] <AussieHatter> intelikey: that did it.
[07:13] <intelikey> what was using it AussieHatter ?
[07:13] <AussieHatter> intelikey: so for some reason a terminal was attached to the mounted device ?
[07:14] <AussieHatter> intelikey: two terminals weer open
[07:14] <AussieHatter> which were both in the /  directory
[07:14] <intelikey> if you open a terminal and cd into a mountpoint the device is then busy for the duration of your stay
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> brb
[07:15] <AussieHatter> intelikey: i know, but only if you are in the mounted directory
[07:15] <AussieHatter> they both were not in the mounted directory
[07:15] <flaccid> not when you can't get rid of locks. use umount -l
[07:15] <flaccid> not=note
[07:15] <intelikey> AussieHatter version ?
[07:15] <AussieHatter> kubuntu feisty fawn
[07:16] <intelikey> most probably something they have changed in the terminal emulator
[07:16] <AussieHatter> intelikey: its the standard one in utilites -> terminal
[07:17] <intelikey> AussieHatter every time people say things like " but why doesn't it do that for me "   brand new sets of problems are intorduced as a result...
[07:18] <AussieHatter> intelikey: how can i get a normal bash shell in kubuntu ?
[07:18] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1
[07:18] <AussieHatter> omg.
[07:18] <AussieHatter> you might have said that drops me out of the kde :)
[07:18] <intelikey> AussieHatter alt+f7  back to the gui
[07:19] <AussieHatter> ah
[07:19] <AussieHatter> thx
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:19] <flaccid> bash is default shell
[07:19] <flaccid> or type bash
[07:19] <intelikey> type bash ?
[07:19] <intelikey> type bash
[07:19] <intelikey> bash is /bin/bash
[07:19] <AussieHatter> flaccid: you are right, the terminal and the shell are different
[07:19] <flaccid> yeah which is in path
[07:19] <AussieHatter> i was calling the terminal the shell
[07:20] <flaccid> ah you want tty not pts
[07:20] <AussieHatter> so maybe i dont use the terminal supplied with kde
[07:20] <flaccid> kde doesn't have a term. it has terminal emulator(s)
[07:20] <Sleepy_Coder> Er....I don't think that has much to do with it. :)
[07:20] <intelikey> AussieHatter you can install other terminal emulators like     rxvt   xterm  aterm  eterm ....
[07:21] <flaccid> i just use xterm, yakuake and konsole emulators
[07:21] <intelikey> the list is long.   but the point is that   rxvt "should" not be affected by the new changes.
[07:21] <AussieHatter> i suppose there is a kde setting as to which terminal to use ?
[07:21] <flaccid> you mean emulator
[07:22] <AussieHatter> right.
[07:22] <Jucato> System Settings -> Default Applications -> Terminal Emulator
[07:22] <intelikey> i suppose.   i don't use a gui enough to keep up with that sort of thing.
[07:22] <AussieHatter> the default one is konsole
[07:23] <flaccid> try yakauke for fun. its a konsole in quake style drop down thing
[07:23] <flaccid> !info yakuake
[07:23] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:23] <AussieHatter> actually, help says its the gnome terminal 2.18.0
[07:23] <flaccid> yuck :p
[07:24] <flaccid> i gtg home
[07:24] <flaccid> bbs
[07:24] <intelikey> AussieHatter and BTW  that console you were in.  (crtl+alt+f1) there are six with getty running on them by default and you can open literally hundreds.   alt+f[0-2] [0-9] 
[07:25] <intelikey> i think the default limit is 256.  but that can be raised.
[07:26] <intelikey> alt+left/right-arrow  for stepping through them...
[07:26] <AussieHatter> intelikey: right, thx, i forget about them when in the GUI
[07:26] <intelikey> and     openvt -fsc #
[07:27] <Etokura> Is there a command to have your password shown to you in a terminal?
[07:27] <intelikey> Etokura no
[07:27] <Etokura> Agh
[07:27] <intelikey> Etokura you can change it there.
[07:27] <intelikey> if you know it.
[07:27] <intelikey> passwd
[07:28] <Etokura> That's the thing, I accidentally changed it to a typo'd version of what I needed
[07:28] <intelikey> and can't sudo -i
[07:28] <intelikey> if you can gain root access   you can    passwd username
[07:29] <intelikey> or should i say   passwd <username>
[07:29] <Etokura> Ah ok
[07:29] <intelikey> but if you can't access root  you're in for a reboot to bash init
[07:31] <intelikey> this thing would reboot really fast if it didn't have to reset the scsi bus twice...
[07:32] <AussieHatter> gtkpod will not delete from my ipod, it seems because it does not sudo before rm any ideas ?
[07:34] <Etokura> Er
[07:34] <Etokura> I have to log in to create a user
[07:35] <intelikey> that did it.   adding an killall5 prior to the remount fixed it.
[07:36] <intelikey> i could cut the boot time by about half by building a new kernel.
[07:37] <intelikey> AussieHatter did anyone answer you while i was gone ?
[07:43] <AussieHatter> it seems rhythmbox will work with the ipod
[07:43] <AussieHatter> damn.  now the whole system just froze.
[07:43] <intelikey> that's ugly.
[07:43] <AussieHatter> for the 3rd time in a week.  any clues on how to find out what program crashed ?
[07:44] <AussieHatter> ctl alt f1. wont work
[07:44] <[_uplink_] > HELLO
[07:44] <AussieHatter> cntl alt backspace. nope
[07:44] <AussieHatter> frozen.
[07:44] <intelikey>  runners    http://pastebin.ca/466931    ! spinners
[07:44] <intelikey> AussieHatter alt+sysRQ+E
[07:45] <AussieHatter> intelikey: nothing
[07:45] <intelikey> AussieHatter if magic sysRQ can't help then it's toast     or that's been my luck anyway
[07:46] <AussieHatter> toast.
[07:46] <AussieHatter> hopefully mounted ipod is fine.
[07:46] <AussieHatter> grrrr
[07:46] <intelikey> AussieHatter yeah hopefully.     after the reboot.  look in the logs.
[07:48] <intelikey> not any real hope of finding an error message saying  "kernel message: i can't write to the hd now.... and i'm paniced..."   cause,  ah it can't write....
[07:48] <AussieHatter> intelikey: the box is still up
[07:48] <AussieHatter> intelikey: i can ping it
[07:48] <AussieHatter> though i havent enabled ssh server on it, so i cant get in
[07:49] <intelikey> AussieHatter really?    you can ping it but keyboard has no response.
[07:49] <intelikey> then there may be something in the logs
[07:50] <AussieHatter> intelikey: yes
[07:50] <AussieHatter> mouse disappeared
[07:50] <Etokura> Wow.. This phone has great speakers
[07:50] <intelikey> more than one ?
[07:50] <Etokura> Two
[07:50] <Etokura> The sound is very crisp
[07:51] <intelikey> candy
[07:51] <Etokura> And with expandable memory via microSD, it could be an mp3-player replacement
[07:51] <Etokura> I just need a 2.5mm - 3.5mm adapter jack
[07:52] <intelikey> will it do ogg vorbis?  if not just keep it.
[07:53] <Etokura> Yeah
[07:53] <Etokura> If you believe
[07:55] <AussieHatter> the last thing in syslog is network manager: updating allowed wireless network lists
[07:55] <intelikey> i have put several casetes on cd    things from "back in the day"  that are worth keeping,   one cd can hold a ton of .ogg's  like 8 or 9 hours per cd   and good quality
[07:55] <AussieHatter> oops, no that was safter reboot
[07:56] <Etokura> Ooh
[07:56] <Etokura> I would use ogg but I'm not sure if this phone supports it
[07:56] <Etokura> I should check
[07:57] <intelikey> you should check
[07:57] <Etokura> I just finished remixing a song to make it suitible for use as a ringtone
[07:58] <intelikey> did i mention   http://pastebin.ca/466931 ?
[07:58] <intelikey> yeah i did.  sorry.
[07:58] <Etokura> What does it do?
[07:59] <intelikey> replaces spinners
[07:59] <Etokura> What are spinners?
[07:59] <intelikey> in place of   \ | / -   in one spot you get a runner going back and forth   ----!
[08:00] <intelikey>    !-----
[08:00] <intelikey> it's a "do nothing"  ever seen one before ?
[08:01] <Etokura> Interesting
[08:01] <jujimufu> I liked spinners
[08:02] <intelikey> yeah.  but not for a network connection.  runners are more believable there
[08:02] <jujimufu> indeed
[08:03] <intelikey> any way just thought i'd share it,    didn't want to keep it all to my self
[08:03] <jujimufu> lol :P
[08:03] <intelikey> :)
[08:03] <jujimufu> thanks for sharing, then :D
[08:04] <Alonea> oh! I forgot to say that in Fiesty, the problem with my computer not shutting down due to fglrx thing for ati cards is no longer happening! I can actually shut down normally now, though sometimes it shutsdown a bit on the slow side.
[08:05] <korobase> I want to install a cvs server in my computer.Which package was what I need?
[08:07] <intelikey> Alonea idk.  maybe   cvsd - chroot wrapper to run `cvs pserver' more securely
[08:07] <epimeth> gooood morning :-)
[08:07] <intelikey> sorry.  ! Alonea      korobase ^
[08:07] <intelikey> epimeth
[08:07] <Alonea> intelikey: ^__^
[08:08] <Alonea> epimeth: morning. tis night for me...
[08:08] <epimeth> Alonea: sorry to hear that....
[08:08] <epimeth> :-)
[08:08] <intelikey> yes be night is light no?
[08:08] <underdog5004> wow... www.digg.com has been taken down...all this in response to a rash of articles regarding the HD-DVD decryption key!
[08:09] <intelikey> underdog5004 ?
[08:09] <intelikey> you jest ?
[08:09] <underdog5004> check it
[08:09] <dwbell> no jest
[08:10] <underdog5004> people just kept posting the HD-DVD decryption key, and basically making a fuss, and they shut it down (temporarily?)
[08:10] <underdog5004> of course the HD-DVD/AACS people are big sponsors of digg, so...
[08:10] <epimeth> so here's a question... I installed beryl yesterday.... everything was fine.  I booted up the comp just now and noticed 2 problems:
[08:10] <underdog5004> on another not, I really like vim
[08:10] <underdog5004> epimeth, no window decorations?
[08:11] <epimeth> lol yes
[08:11] <kristjan_> underdog5004: I don't see where notice about hd-dvd being the reason for shut down
[08:11] <epimeth> that and my system tray has one row of icons instead of 2
[08:11] <underdog5004> kristjan_, trust me, that's what it was
[08:11] <underdog5004> kristjan_, there were articles popping up faster than the admins could delete them...the whole front page was filled with articles about the key
[08:11] <os2mac> !java
[08:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:12] <underdog5004> epimeth, h/o, lemme grab the url for the fix
[08:12] <intelikey> system tray.    heh      icons  hah   :)
[08:12] <underdog5004> epimeth, you're on edgy, yeah?
[08:12] <epimeth> so I started beryl manager and the window decorations are showing up now, but not on the windows that were open
[08:12] <epimeth> no, feisty
[08:12] <epimeth> like konversation :-)
[08:13] <underdog5004> epimeth, oh...nvm...I haven't had good luck w/ feisty and beryl...I upgraded then downgraded back to edgy
[08:13] <underdog5004> lol
[08:13] <epimeth> heh
[08:13] <Alonea> epimeth: heh. well, at least I get to sleep soon. Sleep is gooooood.
[08:13] <epimeth> actually, the decorations *are* there, I just can't get to it cuz its over the top of the screen!
[08:13] <Etokura> I've noticed some odd things about beryl and feisty
[08:13] <epimeth> grrrr
[08:13] <intelikey> nalioth comming or going ?
[08:14] <Etokura> Now I can only preview music in LimeWire while beryl is running
[08:14] <epimeth> so I guess the question is how do I get beryl manager to run on startup?
[08:14] <Etokura> And some tooltips don't show unless beryl is running
[08:14] <Etokura> epimeth I don't think there is a great way
[08:14] <josh_> can someone help me with grub boot loader?
[08:15] <dwbell> josh_: we can try
[08:15] <intelikey> josh_ sure
[08:15] <se7en_> somebody know how i can get amarok to work i get     amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:15] <epimeth> okay, so how do I make KDE my default window manager... I'll just manually load beryl later
[08:15] <Etokura> ou need to download libgl
[08:15] <underdog5004> josh_, what's the problem?
[08:15] <Etokura> You
[08:15] <intelikey> !grub | josh_
[08:15] <ubotu> josh_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:15] <underdog5004> epimeth, it'll be in the login screen
[08:15] <intelikey> while you type.....
[08:16] <josh_> I have never used linux before.
[08:16] <josh_> I installed ubuntu feisty faun and it has made it so that I can not log into windows anymore.
[08:16] <josh_> I can repair it myself if I can get a boot cd to load
[08:16] <josh_> but grub loads too fast
[08:16] <josh_> even if I tell the bios not to boot from hard drive.
[08:16] <josh_> grub always takes control.
[08:16] <underdog5004> click on "options" and select default session -> KE
[08:16] <underdog5004> er....KDE
[08:16] <josh_> is there a way to make a cd a boot option?
[08:16] <se7en_> Etokura: that was the first thing i tryed
[08:16] <se7en_> sudo apt-get install libgl
[08:16] <se7en_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:16] <se7en_> Building dependency tree
[08:16] <se7en_> Reading state information... Done
[08:16] <se7en_> E: Couldn't find package libgl
[08:16] <Etokura> While the grub loads hit ESC
[08:16] <epimeth> I was thinking more along the lines of through the conf files?
[08:16] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install libGL.so
[08:17] <underdog5004> !pastebin | se7en_
[08:17] <ubotu> se7en_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <josh_> what will esc do?
[08:17] <josh_> stop it?
[08:17] <underdog5004> josh_, let you look at the boot options
[08:17] <Etokura> Go into the index of bottable kernels and OSes
[08:17] <Etokura> Bootable
[08:17] <josh_> and what boot option am I looking for?
[08:17] <josh_> Cd?
[08:17] <Etokura> So you can select Windows from the list
[08:17] <josh_> windows gives me and error about hal.dll
[08:18] <josh_> the only fix I can find is recovery from the cd.
[08:18] <intelikey> josh_ i don't think you can boot a cd from a standard grub prompt.
[08:18] <Etokura> When it says something like "Grub loading: Press ESC for options" Press escape
[08:18] <josh_> it gives me a list but I have several partitions.
[08:18] <Etokura> There you should find windows in the list
[08:18] <underdog5004> josh_, to make it boot from a cd, you'll need to make sure your bios is configured to do that
[08:18] <josh_> my bios says boot from cd first.
[08:19] <underdog5004> josh_, are you trying to boot from the windows cd?
[08:19] <josh_> i removed hard drive from boot options but grub still loads
[08:19] <epimeth> josh_: then the cd isn't bootable :-)
[08:19] <josh_> the cd says that it is booting
[08:19] <josh_> then grub loads
[08:19] <josh_> i just need to slow grub down by like 30 seconds
[08:19] <Etokura> You can change the countdown if that's what you want
[08:20] <intelikey> you are talking about bios  not grub
[08:20] <josh_> its like the cd cant load fast enough
[08:20] <josh_> it is spinning and saying it is loading.
[08:20] <intelikey> that's bios issue  not grub
[08:20] <epimeth> yup
[08:20] <josh_> why does grub load when bios says not to boot from hard drive at all
[08:20] <Etokura> What cd?
[08:20] <intelikey> that's a bios issue not grub
[08:20] <josh_> win xp profesional
[08:20] <josh_> ok.
[08:20] <underdog5004> josh_, if it's a windows disc, you need to hit any key to boot from the cd when you're given the prompt
[08:21] <josh_> it does not get that far.
[08:21] <epimeth> because the bios is loading the HD anyway... grub is on the HD, it can't affect the bios
[08:21] <josh_> is their a way to fix the boot.ini and hal.dll file from withing linux.
[08:21] <josh_> or its command line
[08:21] <josh_> i still want linux.
[08:21] <underdog5004> josh_, I doubt it
[08:21] <josh_> I just need windows to work too.
[08:22] <underdog5004> josh_, maybe copy the recovery ones over the corrupted files
[08:22] <josh_> The web says something about chainloading
[08:22] <josh_> is that automatic
[08:22] <josh_> or is that the problem with the windows not booting.
[08:22] <intelikey> josh_ might copy over a good copy of the files in question....    i don't know.
[08:22] <josh_> i will try that.
[08:22] <underdog5004> I know,  somewhere, there's a folder on your hard-drive that stores "vanilla" versions of essential files
[08:23] <josh_> i386?
[08:23] <jlilly> Having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu-restricted-packages, but the java install fails. I run it manually and I get a conflict:  sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:23] <underdog5004> can't remember where, though...try booting into linux and searching for recovery on the windows partition...
[08:23] <intelikey> josh_ chainloader+1 is a grub opetion it tells grub to turn the boot process over to the next device
[08:23] <josh_> ok that makes sense.
[08:23] <josh_> it sounded like it had to trick windows into thinking it had the first partition.
[08:24] <josh_> grub that is.
[08:24] <josh_> ill come back after I try that.
[08:25] <josh_> bye
[08:25] <underdog5004> good luck!
[08:25] <intelikey> i have listings in my menu.lst file (grub's rc)   that go to each hd
[08:25] <intelikey> title MBR (hd2)
[08:25] <intelikey>         root    (hd2)
[08:25] <intelikey>         chainloader +1
[08:25] <josh_> i saw one that shows something like that for a floppy
[08:25] <intelikey> hd's 0-5
[08:25] <josh_> says windows can be done but did not explain.
[08:25] <josh_> windows cd.
[08:25] <josh_> it was a listing in the menu.lst
[08:26] <josh_> says I cant edit cause im not root.
[08:26] <josh_> I have no idea how to switch to root.
[08:26] <intelikey> sudo
[08:26] <jujimufu> josh_: just write %B sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lt
[08:26] <intelikey> !sudo | josh_
[08:26] <ubotu> josh_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:26] <jujimufu> ah, fail for bold
[08:26] <underdog5004> josh_, type in kdesu kate /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:27] <intelikey> !kdesu | josh_  yes use kdesu for gui
[08:27] <ubotu> josh_  yes use kdesu for gui: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:27] <underdog5004> he he he, command overload
[08:27] <josh_> in the places computer command line or an actual command line?
[08:27] <jujimufu> josh: alt+F2
[08:27] <underdog5004> josh in the command line of the linux distro that you're booting
[08:27] <underdog5004> listen to jujimufu
[08:27] <jujimufu> oh
[08:28] <josh_> terminal?
[08:28] <underdog5004> sure
[08:28] <stephan> hello
[08:28] <jujimufu> josh_; anywhere where you can type commands
[08:28] <underdog5004> hello, stephan
[08:28] <josh_> thanks.
[08:28] <intelikey> josh_ alt+f2 for kdesu  but use a konsole for  sudo  and cli apps
[08:28] <jujimufu> hello stephan :)
[08:28] <se7en_> is there a way to use albumart under linux same as in xp
[08:28] <underdog5004> albumart?
[08:29] <josh_> says kdesu not installed.
[08:29] <intelikey> !wine | se7en_ if it will run there
[08:29] <ubotu> se7en_ if it will run there: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:29] <jujimufu> se7en_, albumart as in, the site albumart?
[08:29] <se7en_> thumbnail view album cover underdog5004
[08:29] <underdog5004> josh_, are you using kubuntu?
[08:29] <josh_> yes
[08:29] <josh_> ubuntu
[08:29] <josh_> feisty faun
[08:29] <underdog5004> but kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:30] <josh_> pretty sure ubuntu
[08:30] <intelikey> josh_ gksudo
[08:30] <jujimufu> that's differen thant kuburoi josh...
[08:30] <underdog5004> if it's ubuntu, type in gksu gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:30] <jujimufu> *kubuntu
[08:30] <Etokura> Ah that sucks
[08:30] <Etokura> It doesn't even recognise ogg
[08:30] <jujimufu> josh_, then why are you in this channel? This channel is for the KDE-based Ubuntu (i.e. Kubuntu) not the original, GNOME-version of Ubuntu. you should go to #ubuntu for help with that.
[08:30] <Etokura> Usually it'll show it and give an error while playing
[08:31] <josh_> i apologize i did not know.
[08:31] <jujimufu> Etokura, what player?
[08:31] <underdog5004> josh_, np, we'll still help you
[08:31] <Etokura> My phone
[08:31] <jujimufu> josh_, it's ok. It's just weird that you joined on #kubuntu while your distribution writes "ubuntu".
[08:31] <jujimufu> well, at least I find it weird >_>
[08:31] <intelikey> josh_ and if the channel is too busy in there  you can ask in here  :)
[08:31] <underdog5004> josh_, ever checked out kubuntu?
[08:31] <josh_> it asked for a password. after password gave a blank text file.
[08:31] <josh_> nope. first linux ever.
[08:31] <underdog5004> hmmm
[08:31] <Alonea> jujimufu: even though I have kubuntu I still ask in ubuntu. Also, people tend to be more helpful in here anyways as I ahve quickly found.
[08:32] <josh_> is it easier.
[08:32] <intelikey> josh_ no just different.
[08:32] <josh_> what is the difference
[08:32] <josh_> ohh.
[08:32] <josh_> it does not seem hard. just a learning curve.
[08:32] <josh_> had windows my whole life.
[08:32] <underdog5004> josh_, whoops, the file is menu.lst
[08:32] <Alonea> well, night guys
[08:32] <jujimufu> Alonea, yes, but it's more logical to ask for kubuntu help in ubuntu than to ask for ubuntu help in kubuntu. But anyway, the differences are not THAT many between them.
[08:32] <josh_> ok.
[08:32] <underdog5004> josh_, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:32] <jujimufu> underdog5004: yes it is, lol :P
[08:33] <underdog5004> lol
[08:33] <intelikey> josh_ yeah imagine if you had never seen a computer and someone handed you a windows xp disk and a box to put it in.   there you are with linux now.
[08:33] <jujimufu> josh_: btw, since this is your first try with linux, you could try kubuntu. It is more user-friendly, in my opinion. On the other hand, it would be good if you got used to linux on gnome, although despite all my experience on linux, I prefer kde.
[08:33] <underdog5004> except with all of windows bad habits...lol
[08:33] <Alonea> jujimufu: yeah. but I was never really logical. If I ever use gnome, I would probably still end up coming in here for better help factor.
[08:33] <josh_> title DOS Boot Disk
[08:33] <josh_> 	map (hd0,0) (hd0,2)
[08:33] <josh_> 	map (hd0,2) (hd0,0)
[08:33] <josh_> 	chainloader (fd0)+1
[08:33] <jujimufu> Alonea: bah :P
[08:33] <josh_> this is what is given to boot from floppy
[08:34] <josh_> says If your Windows install CD is bootable, you'll need to have a "Windows boot disk" section which chainloads to whatever your CDROM device is called.
[08:34] <jujimufu> underdog5004, what exactly is josh's problem?
[08:34] <josh_> it says this like i just edit the dos boot disk version.
[08:35] <underdog5004> jujimufu, he can't boot the XP disk to save his windows partition
[08:35] <underdog5004> not necessary to boot the cd to fix it, though...
[08:35] <josh_> i tried a copy of the boot.ini and hal.dll from a know good version of windows.
[08:36] <josh_> Let me explain. Grub show 1. ubuntu 2. windows xp 3. windows loader
[08:36] <josh_> windows loader is the same hard drive as the linux install
[08:36] <josh_> windows loader shows win xp and win 2000
[08:36] <jujimufu> underdog5004, if I am not mistaken, if he boots with hte XP cd and asks for recovery, it will re-install windows' boot loader, and it it does not overwrite grub (i.e. grub is installed on the boot partition and not on the MBR), there will be some nasty conflict there...
[08:36] <josh_> which i had as duel boot before.
[08:36] <josh_> all i have read says 3 bootable OS's confuses grub.
[08:37] <underdog5004> jujimufu, he just needs to boot to a recovery console and copy the working hal.dll and boot.ini over
[08:37] <eric__> is it possible to update a kubuntu 6.01 into a 7.04 or whatever?
[08:37] <jujimufu> underdog5004, well, are we sure that his windows partitions still exist after installing ubuntu? I mean, it's his first time, he might as well have formatted the whole thing.
[08:37] <underdog5004> eric__, yes
[08:37] <eric__> How?
[08:37] <intelikey> 10 shouldn't be a problem.   it might however confuse the automatic installer crap that sets up grub for you.
[08:37] <underdog5004> true..
[08:37] <josh_> ouch
[08:37] <xushi> hi all
[08:37] <underdog5004> eric__, use the update
[08:37] <underdog5004> r
[08:37] <josh_> I can get to pictures and files thru ubuntu
[08:37] <jujimufu> underdog5004, also, can't he copy these files manualy from ubuntu?
[08:37] <eric__> the adept thing?
[08:37] <josh_> on that partition
[08:38] <underdog5004> !feisty | eric__
[08:38] <ubotu> eric__: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[08:38] <xushi> is there a difference between the server and desktop editions, appart from just software installed of which you can just apt-get in the desktop one ?
[08:38] <underdog5004> jujimufu, I don't know...seems to me that he can...
[08:38] <josh_> I can copy from windows drives but not write too.
[08:38] <intelikey> xushi no
[08:38] <jujimufu> underdog5004: if he changes the values in fstab so he can read/write the partition, and he writes the files to the hard-disk, either from a mounted CD rom (i.e. the windows xp cd) or the floppy disk.
[08:39] <intelikey> !ntfs-ng | josh_
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <intelikey> oooops
[08:39] <underdog5004> !ntfs
[08:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:39] <intelikey> !ntfs | josh_
[08:39] <ubotu> josh_: please see above
[08:39] <josh_> ok
[08:39] <xushi> intelikey : this is job related, where i'm replacing all the desktop machines here from windows to kubuntu, but yesterday it failed miserably.. and i cannot afford to lose today too.
[08:39] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | josh_
[08:39] <ubotu> josh_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:39] <intelikey> there.
[08:39] <josh_> i can mount the drives but still not write to them.
[08:39] <xushi> i tried to add kubuntu to a windows active directory , but it nologer allwed me to sudo or login anymore, said some error abut PAM
[08:40] <intelikey> xushi PAM password authentication mechinism
[08:40] <rogelio> ??
[08:40] <josh_> grub boots to the windows loader. Is that normal when I was duel booting before?
[08:41] <xushi> intelikey: yes, i know :)
[08:41] <intelikey> xushi windows active directory ?
[08:41] <intelikey> what fs ?
[08:41] <josh_> so it says mounting gives me access to the drive.
[08:41] <rogelio> alguien habla espaol?
[08:41] <josh_> Write access or just read access?
[08:42] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | josh_ again.  if you need write access;
[08:42] <ubotu> josh_ again.  if you need write access;: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:42] <xushi> ntfs on that. but i followed a tutorial on how to setup kerberos etc.. it was successful but then borked the sudo/login. furthermore, kubuntu kept freezing, crashing , etc on me.. it was very bad
[08:42] <josh_> ok.
[08:43] <xushi> i mean this is a web development company, where these things i'm avoiding by getting away from windows. last thing iexpect to see is crashes and such on kubuntu =/
[08:43] <intelikey> xushi yeah linux in M$ space is like a pinguin in the tropics
[08:43] <jujimufu> !hplij
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hplij - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <xushi> the only reason i need it to be is so that i can have multiple vhosts here for apache, where others can connect to them.. how? by them querying the M$ DNS which needs to know who i am, through active directory
[08:44] <xushi> it's so gay
[08:44] <intelikey> !hplip
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hplip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <intelikey> ! myself
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <Etokura> !talking to girls
[08:45] <eric__> can i use adept manager in say, fedora core 6?
[08:45] <Etokura> SO I'm gonna get it to play ogg
[08:46] <Etokura> Some simple hack i found
[08:46] <intelikey> eric__ hehhe  no.
[08:46] <josh_> I clearly need some basic knowledge here. Can some explain how to get superuser privilege thru the command terminal?
[08:46] <josh_> is there a list of commands.
[08:46] <eric__> what can i use to download programs i need in fedora core then?
[08:47] <intelikey> josh_ sudo -i
[08:47] <jussi01> josh_: prefix the command with sudo
[08:47] <jujimufu> josh_, you just write sudo
[08:47] <josh_> like what dpkg stands for.
[08:47] <intelikey> !cli | josh_
[08:47] <ubotu> josh_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:47] <jujimufu> josh_, or you write su and then the password
[08:47] <intelikey> list of commands  ^
[08:47] <intelikey> jujimufu there is no root password.  he's playing default ball
[08:48] <epimeth> xushi: I'm still a bit confused as to why you would want the kubuntu box in the microsoft AD?
[08:48] <jujimufu> intelikey: he should set one with sudo passwd
[08:48] <dennister> having trouble with surround sound, snd-intel8x0...alsa channel quiet...anyone have any expertise in this stuff and can help?
[08:48] <Xenocoder> Hey now Everyone! Quick Question... In Edgy my right side panel icons used to stack two high, but after upgrading they they are now single height again. Anyway to change that back?
[08:48] <eric__> How would i install a tar.bz2 file?
[08:48] <intelikey> jujimufu while i might agree with you it is totally against *buntu policy to advice new comers to do that
[08:49] <Xenocoder> Eric: tar -jxvf tarball.tar.bz2
[08:49] <josh_> i tried to install ntfs configuration tool and get error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:49] <josh_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:49] <xushi> epimeth : the others here, including some windows machines, need to see my machine, when they ping xushi.company.local. The DNS is a windows DNS server here. I have on my machine multiple vhosts, of which they all need to see
[08:49] <jujimufu> intelikey: why is it totally against *ubuntu policy?
[08:49] <xushi> apparently i have to register myself in the active directory domain so that they can all see me. otherwise they can't ping me and i can't ping them
[08:49] <intelikey> jujimufu they think it's a security issue.
[08:49] <josh_> if I type that in to the command terminal I need super user priverlage
[08:50] <eric__> xem will that work on fedora core 6?
[08:50] <epimeth> jujimufu: not against *ubuntu policy.... just against #kubuntu policy :-)
[08:50] <intelikey> josh_ so do what is says .   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:50] <jujimufu> ok :P
[08:50] <xushi> epimeth: but now i have an even bigger problem.. i borked my sudo/login with PAM or soething.. if you can help, i can reboot now and give you the error message
[08:50] <josh_> with super privelage get cannot execute binary
[08:50] <epimeth> jujimufu: best to use sudo -i anyway
[08:50] <jujimufu> epimeth: mhm
[08:50] <intelikey> epimeth no *ubuntu policy
[08:51] <epimeth> intelikey: really?  I thought it was just us here
[08:51] <intelikey> if you don't think so  /j #ubuntu and ask
[08:51] <josh_> i followed what it says.
[08:51] <epimeth> xushi: I really don't know anything about PAM... what I do know is that you can set up the following:
[08:51] <intelikey> epimeth they are real sudo nazi's in there
[08:51] <Xenocoder> Eric that should work on any command line
[08:52] <epimeth> damnit intelikey! you broke it!  buy me a new head
[08:52] <josh_> is their a general tutorial you can point me too. I will read it so I have a little knowledge then come back.
[08:52] <epimeth> xushi: you set up kubuntu normally and install samba server
[08:52] <josh_> kind of silly to try and fix something when I cant even get around.
[08:53] <josh_> just basic linux knowledge.
[08:53] <josh_> ubuntu specific if possible.
[08:53] <eric__> I need to instal this tar.bz2 file on my fredora core 6 machine, how do i do this?
[08:53] <mardi> !cli
[08:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:53] <xushi> epimeth : and setup kerberos :) which is what messed up everything
[08:53] <intelikey> josh_ did you not look at the link ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:53] <xushi> i need to recover this error and login again
[08:53] <jujimufu> I need help setting up an HP PSC2300 printer (printer only) on Feisty Fawn 7.04, KDE. The printer is connected to the computer.
[08:53] <se7en_> sombody know how to convert ape to mp3
[08:53] <xushi> i'll paste it here for all to help in 5 minutes
[08:53] <josh_> thank you. your time is appreciated.
[08:54] <epimeth> xushi: no, no, no
[08:54] <crimsun> se7en_: use WINE with MAC.EXE
[08:54] <epimeth> xushi: no kerberos
[08:54] <intelikey> josh_   and the man page for all commands (though it may seem a bit criptic at first)  is very handy.     man man    man intro
[08:54] <Xenocoder> Eric if you just type in tar -jxvf tarname.tar.bz2 it will unpack and bunzip for you
[08:54] <eric__> thank you
[08:54] <se7en_> crimsun: i would rather use linux
[08:54] <Xenocoder> Does anyone know how to get the panel to stack 2x2 again?
[08:55] <epimeth> xushi: waaaait.... you need people to log onto the system using their domain users?
[08:55] <Xenocoder> After upgrade the KDE panel on the right shows single row again, I liked the 2 row design
[08:56] <mardi> Xenocoder: did you try changing it's size?
[08:56] <xushi> epimeth: not anymore. I just want kubuntu'ers to be able to see other windows machines in the domain, and vice versa, and 2) i want th ekubuntu'ers to be able to host multiple vhosts in apache for their projects, of which anyone else can see too (internally only)
[08:56] <Xenocoder> mardi - Hi no I did not... The fab four (amarok,konq, etc) are 2x2 but not the right side anymore
[08:56] <mardi> Xenocoder: right click, configure, size
[08:56] <jujimufu> Xenocoder: you can change that by right-clicking on the panel -> pages options -> rows -> 2
[08:56] <intelikey> mardi i thought of that but it seemed like a no brainer, and i expected him to have a brain
[08:56] <Xenocoder> thanks let me try that real quick
[08:57] <epimeth> xushi: okay good... so no need for kerberos... thats just for authentication
[08:57] <mardi> pages options?
[08:57] <mardi> oh oh pager options
[08:57] <xushi> epimeth: are you sure? i couldn't ping them or them ping me without me authenticating through kerberos
[08:57] <epimeth> xushi: could you ping by ip?
[08:58] <intelikey> !bind9
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <xushi> epimeth: i haven't tried to be honest. Will do as soon as i can login again. brb, going to switch machines and reboot
[08:58] <epimeth> xushi: see I totally worked around this problem :-)  I used samba as the domain controller... sure, no nice AD style administration, but at least everything *worked* :-)
[08:59] <intelikey> they have hacked ubotu again.
[08:59] <intelikey> !info bind9
[08:59] <ubotu> bind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 788 kB
[08:59] <xushi> epimeth: i hope you're right! this will save me days of work and hassle ;)
[08:59] <xushi> brb
[09:01] <LucidFox> is there a KDE equivalent for Tomboy?
[09:01] <jujimufu> LucidFox: knote?
[09:01] <jujimufu> LucidFox: *KNotes
[09:02] <LucidFox> thanks
[09:02] <jujimufu> LucidFox: you can always google :)
[09:02] <Etokura> Tomboy works under KDE
[09:02] <LucidFox> yes, but it depends on Mono, and having both Mono and kdelibs in memory...
[09:02] <jujimufu> Etokura: practically, everything on one environment works on the other with the proper libraries
[09:03] <xushi> back
[09:04] <intelikey> LucidFox which mono*  or just venella  mono  ?
[09:04] <xushi> here's the error:
[09:04] <LucidFox> "venella"?
[09:04] <LucidFox> Tomboy uses Gtk#
[09:04] <xushi> sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication information cannot be recovered
[09:05] <xushi> pam_winbind[4357] : write to socket failed. Internal module error (retval = 3, user = xushi)
[09:05] <LucidFox> KNotes fits!
[09:05] <LucidFox> I think it's better than Tomboy
[09:06] <LucidFox> another question: I have black background in Konqueror in file manager mode, is there any way to fix that?
[09:06] <fsckit> can someone tell me why certain fonts look screwed up in gnome apps?
[09:06] <intelikey> ok it depends on    mono-classlib-1.0 mono-common mono-jit    so probably two .so 's and a chunck
[09:06] <LucidFox> fsckit> have you selected the "Use KDE fonts in GTK applications" option?
[09:07] <LucidFox> intelikey> You know what Mono is, don't you?
[09:07] <intelikey> mono - Mono CLI (.NET) runtime
[09:07] <fsckit> LucidFox, yes. not all gnome apps, just a few and one game...Legends. the fonts look squished when they're messed up
[09:07] <intelikey> no i don't
[09:08] <xushi> what should the content of /etc/nsswitch.conf be? compat? files ?
[09:09] <intelikey> is the fact that it's "novell" what bothers you ?
[09:09] <xushi> this will help me
[09:09] <LucidFox> fsckit> try switching font hinting to "Full"
[09:11] <xushi> epimeth: yes, i can ping other machine's IP addresses btw
[09:13] <epimeth> xushi: could you give me about 15 mins, I'll be back
[09:13] <intelikey> ok i'm went
[09:13] <xushi> take your time epimeth
[09:13] <intelikey> later you'ens
[09:14] <epimeth> intelikey: wented... wentED
[09:14] <epimeth> intelikey: adios
[09:16] <xushi> in the mean time, could anyone help me by giving me a dump of their /etc/nsswitch.conf please? i'd like to compare
[09:16] <jujimufu> I have an HP PSC 2300 printer connected on my USB port, it is recognised by KDE Control Panel (i.e. the printer shows up when I have to select on which port my printer is located), I choose the correct drivers, but neither the test page or anything else I've tried prints anything from the printer. I am using CUPS at the moment (default option) on Feisty Fawn 7.04. Any ideas?
[09:21] <flaccid> !gutsy
[09:21] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <fsckit> anyone use qemu here?
[09:22] <flaccid> yep
[09:22] <flaccid> qemu is cool
[09:22] <fsckit> i'm using qemu for xp install and it won't recognize my 98 full disc, could it be a mount issue?
[09:23] <flaccid> 98 full disc?
[09:23] <flaccid> cdrom ?
[09:23] <fsckit> yes, full version and xp upgrade
[09:24] <flaccid> this is to install into an iso?
[09:24] <fsckit> flaccid, yes
[09:24] <flaccid> have you tried another boot disc by any chance?
[09:24] <fsckit> flaccid, into an img file
[09:24] <flaccid> and you are running something like qemu -localtime -cdrom /dev/cdrom -m 384 -boot d windows.img
[09:25] <fsckit> flaccid, yes, the cd doesn't seem to be spinning up when it is queing the drive
[09:26] <flaccid> um
[09:26] <flaccid> check that the cdrom is not already mounted with the mount command
[09:26] <epimeth> xushi: okay I'm here
[09:26] <xushi> good =)
[09:26] <fsckit> yes, it is mounted
[09:26] <xushi> i think i need to uninstall/reinstall PAM to get thius to work again
[09:26] <epimeth> xushi: where were we?
[09:26] <xushi> but dont know what/how the package is called to remove it
[09:27] <flaccid> i think it needs to be umounted, fsck?
[09:27] <xushi> epimeth: want me to paste the errors i got again for you ?
[09:27] <epimeth> xushi: hmm.... you have PAM cuz you tried kerberos, yes?
[09:27] <epimeth> actually, yes... that would be best
[09:27] <epimeth> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <xushi> epimeth: afaik i had PAM every since the clean install.. i think i edited it to work with kerberos, but that's when something broke
[09:28] <xushi> sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication information cannot be recovered
[09:28] <xushi> pam_winbind[4357] : write to socket failed. Internal module error (retval = 3, user = xushi)
[09:28] <fsckit> flaccid, i'm trying both, no luck so far
[09:29] <flaccid> and /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device . try file /dev/cdrom
[09:29] <epimeth> xushi: what did you do in order to get kerberos installed?
[09:29] <fsckit> flaccid, screw it, i'll just use my pirated copy, lol
[09:29] <flaccid> fsckit: have you tried other boot cdroms yet?
[09:30] <flaccid> you don't get a cdrom prompt on start of qemu at all?
[09:30] <xushi> epimeth: i followed this almost all the way, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html
[09:30] <fsckit> flaccid, not yet
[09:30] <flaccid> its possible the problem is either the cdrom or the cd media itself
[09:31] <xushi> epimeth: i went to step 8, until sudo and login borked. then kubuntu crashed again, when i rebooted, i couldnt login anymore
[09:31] <fsckit> flaccid, yes, i do, just when start xp, then it asks for a 98....full version for my xp upgrade, then i have the probs
[09:31] <xushi> now i'm in recovery mode
[09:31] <flaccid> right
[09:31] <flaccid> so you can boot cdrom
[09:31] <fsckit> yes
[09:31] <flaccid> to be honest im not sure if you can do that fsckit . try google or #qemu ?
[09:31] <epimeth> can you ping your DC?
[09:32] <xushi> by IP address, yes
[09:32] <flaccid> and sometimes its the fault of the windows installer. ive had it not like genuine retail copies trying to upgrade!
[09:32] <eric> since beryl and compiz are merging again wich one should i install?
[09:32] <epimeth> try using that instead of the name in the krb5.conf
[09:32] <epimeth> just for now
[09:32] <xushi> woah, i can also ping them by the company name
[09:32] <xushi> ping machine.company.local
[09:33] <xushi> k, sec
[09:33] <epimeth> no
[09:33] <epimeth> heh
[09:33] <epimeth> if you can ping it that way then great\
[09:33] <epimeth> :-)
[09:33] <epimeth> I thought you meant you couldn't get host.domain.local
[09:33] <xushi> yea! but problem is i cannot sudo or login to my local machine anymore :)
[09:33] <epimeth> I understand :-)
[09:34] <epimeth> pastebin your krb5.conf and smb.conf
[09:34] <crimsun> 229iiii[5~[5~[5~[5~[6~[6~ii[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[5~[6~[6~[6~
[09:34] <crimsun> 
[09:34] <xushi> that would be a bit hard, as i'm on my laptop here chatting, and the kubunto is on the other machine
[09:34] <xushi> sec, i might use my usb stick to do it
[09:35] <epimeth> xushi:  I'll wait...
[09:36] <epimeth> xushi: did you make backups of the original files, btw?
[09:36] <xushi> thats the dumbest thing i did yesterday
[09:36] <xushi> no i didnt backup =/
[09:36] <flaccid> has anyone used a vm product to vm to an existing installed OS on a dif partition?
[09:37] <xushi> epimeth: http://pastebin.ca/466996
[09:38] <xushi> epimeth: http://pastebin.ca/466997
[09:39] <andrea> hi...
[09:39] <andrea> italiano..
[09:39] <andrea> voglio..
[09:39] <epimeth> xushi: when you try to log in are you trying to use the username and password you were using before or the one from AD?
[09:39] <Tm_T> !it | andrea
[09:39] <ubotu> andrea: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:40] <xushi> epimeth: yes. I'm just trying to login with my local user/passwd: xushi/xushi
[09:40] <FeistyForge> hey all :)
[09:40] <epimeth> xushi: have you tried a domain's username and password?
[09:40] <xushi> but it doesn't even try to authenticate with anything.. it just immediately gives me those errors above
[09:40] <xushi> yes
[09:40] <xushi> i tried
[09:40] <epimeth> kay
[09:40] <epimeth> it had to be asked :-)
[09:41] <xushi> hehe
[09:41] <epimeth> kinda like: "is your computer plugged in to the electricity, sir?"
[09:41] <xushi> damn it i expect quality when i asked for this cup holder, not this plastic that snapped!
[09:42] <FeistyForge> and when the answer is no your reply should be "then please pack up your PC and monitor and send it back to the manufacturer with a label on it saying "I'm too stupid to own a PC"
[09:42] <epimeth> just out of curiosity... pastebin the kerberos log?
[09:42] <xushi> hmm, if i can find it
[09:43] <xushi> damn, i mseed up the configurations too much.. let me try and revert
[09:44] <epimeth> FeistyForge: no, no, no... its like "Ooooohhhhh. I see what the problem is!  okay, it's really important that you do exactly as I tell you.  do you still have the box the computer came in?  Okay, good.... now put the computer back in the box and send it back to the manufacturer!  It's that bad?  Yes, sir.  What should I tell them?  That you're too stupid to own a computer. *click*
[09:44] <FeistyForge> rofl :)
[09:44] <xushi> haha'
[09:45] <FeistyForge> at least it will stop them using their DVD drive's tray as a coffe-mug holder
[09:45] <epimeth> thats the end to the one where the guy can't tell if the monitor is hooked up to the computer "because it's dark in here" (nothing was displaying on the screen)
[09:45] <epimeth> why is it dark, sir?  because the lights are out
[09:45] <epimeth> so why don't you turn them on, sir?  becuase there's a power outage
[09:45] <underdog5004> I work in a computer shop (local, not big box) and some people are seriously like that!
[09:46] <underdog5004> I tell them to hit the start button...and they DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS!
[09:46] <FeistyForge> why's there a power outage? "because I havn't paid my electricity bill for 2 years"
[09:46] <epimeth> lol
[09:46] <FeistyForge> underdog, its better than not knowing where the "any" key is :)
[09:46] <underdog5004> some don't know what version of windows they're running...I've taken to asking if they have a green button at the bottom-left corner
[09:47] <FeistyForge> hehe I moved my XP taskbar to the top
[09:47] <FeistyForge> (so I have now rocketdock on the bottom.. nice little app btw)
[09:47] <FeistyForge> that nick sounds quite japanese...
[09:48] <FeistyForge> like a character from street fighter almost
[09:48] <underdog5004> anyway, I'm going to bed...got a nice warm girlfriend to snuggle up to...g'night
[09:48] <FeistyForge> night ud
[09:48] <underdog5004> lol, rocketdock wins...fatality!
[09:48] <underdog5004> oh wait...wrong game
[09:48] <FeistyForge> hehe
[09:48] <FeistyForge> rofl
[09:48] <underdog5004> lol, night
[09:48] <FeistyForge> I like the mixed thing you come out with from it tho
[09:49] <epimeth> gnight!
[09:49] <FeistyForge> Mortal KO OS wars?...
[09:49] <epimeth> xushi: why'd you leave all the legacy stuff in krb5.conf?
[09:50] <epimeth> xushi: comment anything out that isn't what was in the howto
[09:50] <epimeth> xushi: just trying to cover all the bases...
[09:50] <xushi> hmm, i thought i did, let me check
[09:50] <epimeth> xushi: did you get the log, btw?
[09:50] <xushi> epimeth: i can't find the log
[09:50] <epimeth>  /var/log/krb5lib.log
[09:50] <soop> stupid question: How can I add Items/locations to the system menu popup on the status bar?
[09:51] <FeistyForge> soop like an applet?
[09:51] <xushi> epimeth: i see no /var/log/krb*
[09:51] <epimeth> hrm...
[09:51] <epimeth> kay
[09:51] <xushi> just kdm.log and kern.log
[09:51] <FeistyForge> for the kmenu you can just right click and edit the menu
[09:51] <epimeth> locate krb5 ?
[09:51] <FeistyForge> (using the kmenu editor)
[09:51] <soop> FeistyForge: you know the little computer icon on the default kubuntu task/status bar? ... displays home, remote places, etc. ...
[09:52] <FeistyForge> but for the kicker (system panel) you have to add a program to the panel
[09:52] <FeistyForge> oh that one?... I'm not certain you can alter that menu, I havn't exactly tried
[09:52] <soop> I'm sure you must be able to ... be nice to have a link to commonly accessed folders in there
[09:52] <xushi> epimeth: heh, nope.. there is no log
[09:53] <FeistyForge> well you can add a link to a launcher or something but not specifically inside that menu
[09:53] <FeistyForge> that I know of
[09:53] <soop> what is that menu called?
[09:53] <FeistyForge> (without knowing more about kde)
[09:53] <epimeth> xushi: kay... you getting rid of all the extraneous stuff from krb5.conf?  and by "getting rid" I mean "commenting out so you can always undo it!!!!"
[09:53] <FeistyForge> I think its just a places menu  or system menu of some sort... not certain about its specific name
[09:54] <xushi> epimeth: everything there appart from the Heimdals section i was told by the tutorial to use
[09:54] <xushi> but i'll double check now
[09:55] <soop> bummer
[09:56] <xushi> ok done
[09:57] <epimeth> where does it say to use it?
[09:58] <FeistyForge> I found it its actually an applet
[09:58] <xushi> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91510.html
[09:58] <xushi> step 1
[09:58] <FeistyForge> its called the system menu
[09:58] <xushi> err, step 2
[09:59] <FeistyForge> (you can add/remove it by add to panel on the kicker - ie main panel equiv to taskbar in the Windows world)
[09:59] <epimeth> xushi: there is no mention of heimdals anywhere in step 2....
[09:59] <xushi> yea i meant to say everything appart from that was mentioned
[09:59] <xushi> i just deleted that part
[10:00] <FeistyForge> but its an applet not an icon or application
[10:00] <xushi> epimeth: i checked everything so far again, except smb.conf. let me go through it
[10:00] <FeistyForge> I'm not sure what determines the entries to that menu however it may be static
[10:00] <FeistyForge> (ie hardcoded into the applet)
[10:00] <epimeth> haven't you learned not to delete, yet??? xushi... never ever delete things in conf files
[10:01] <epimeth> xushi: or if you do, *always* keep dated backups
[10:01] <xushi> yes we;; i copied krb5.con to .bak too :)
[10:01] <xy> can i get some help on fixing my kmix audio on feisty
[10:01] <FeistyForge> but you can add the quick launcher to the kicker that way you effectively have a commonly used applications area...
[10:02] <FeistyForge> xy mine crashes arts on startup...
[10:03] <xy> well mine was working fine until i accidently deleted my own user account when i meant to delete a folder in my home. so when i added another user as alternate account and access new account, there seems to be no current mixer found
[10:03] <FeistyForge> well you can run kmix as a service
[10:04] <xy> i have only used linux for 3 months, so im not too familiar on how to start stop services
[10:04] <FeistyForge> in kubuntu theres a system settings options in your kmenu
[10:04] <xy> ok
[10:04] <FeistyForge> in there with administrator priveleges you can modify services... I think its in the advanced section
[10:05] <FeistyForge> (its much like the Control panel under windows)
[10:05] <xy> oh the system services
[10:05] <FeistyForge> I don't know if thats the best way or even the right way, I just know thats one way to see/modify running services
[10:05] <xushi> sweet! i have progress now
[10:06] <epimeth> xushi: oh?
[10:06] <xy> how do i add kmix tho
[10:06] <FeistyForge> also ksysguard has a process list to kill tasks with...
[10:06] <FeistyForge> but you have to run it as root
[10:06] <xushi> epimeth: now if i sudo anything in user xushi, and enter password, it pauses for a bit, then gives me a few strings of NT_STATUS_CANT_ACCESS_DOMAIN_INFO errors
[10:06] <xy> uhhh alsa refuses to run
[10:06] <FeistyForge> (otherwise you can only see them)
[10:07] <epimeth> xushi: so xushi/xushi worked?
[10:07] <FeistyForge> um.. xy, if it gives you an error you may be able to work it out
[10:07] <FeistyForge> but I don't know if I can help you from there
[10:07] <epimeth> xushi: wait... is that your local user of your domain user?
[10:07] <xushi> local
[10:07] <xy> there is no error, it just displays status as not running
[10:07] <FeistyForge> try running it in a console window
[10:07] <xushi> epimeth: do i have to useradd my domain user here locally too ?
[10:08] <xy> is kmix supposed to be in that list somewhere too? cuz i don't see it in the list at all
[10:08] <FeistyForge> (ie run konsole - it may show up as terminal in your kmenu somewhere)
[10:08] <epimeth> xushi: no!!!
[10:08] <xushi> ok good
[10:08] <FeistyForge> anyway the icon for it generally looks like a black monitor
[10:08] <FeistyForge> it will be there somewhere
[10:08] <epimeth> xushi: did you create /home/DOMAINNAME ?
[10:08] <xushi> epimeth: yes
[10:08] <xy> run what in konsole
[10:09] <FeistyForge> assuming the program it runs is called alsa, just type that in your terminal window... and see what happens
[10:09] <donkeyofdarkness> yakuake is fancy
[10:09] <xushi> epimeth: but it's empty
[10:09] <petesejt> I had troubles upgrading Edgy to Feisty, shall I describe it here or will someone help in pvt?
[10:09] <epimeth> xushi: okay...
[10:09] <xushi> but what i don't get is why my local user cna't login anymore to the local machine
[10:09] <FeistyForge> if that doesn't work try doing this: man alsa
[10:09] <epimeth> xushi: I thought you just did?
[10:09] <FeistyForge> (hopefully theres an entry for it to explain
[10:09] <jussi01> !paste | petesejt
[10:09] <ubotu> petesejt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:10] <xushi> epimeth: no.. it wont accept the password
[10:10] <xy> isn't also just an audio driver or some sort
[10:10] <donkeyofdarkness> Is there a good way to upgrade from dapper to feisty or am I better off doing a clean install?
[10:10] <xy> alsa*
[10:10] <xy> the alsa-util
[10:10] <petesejt> Well, I do not need paste bin, it isn't so long story :)
[10:10] <epimeth> xushi: but you just said that sudo isn't working for xushi
[10:11] <FeistyForge> xy yeah I know of alsa ... but I don't know a whole lot about it
[10:11] <xushi> yes, sudo isn't working for xushi
[10:11] <xushi> because sudo asks for xushi's password
[10:11] <epimeth> lol
[10:11] <FeistyForge> I know its linux's sound system (and related to arts)
[10:11] <xy> hmm this has been frustrating night
[10:11] <xushi> when i enter it, it gives me a few lines of errors
[10:11] <epimeth> you are logged in right now?
[10:11] <epimeth> as xushi?
[10:11] <epimeth> the local user
[10:11] <FeistyForge> but other than that I don't really know how to trigger it or use it as such... I was hoping it would come up a message that would explain to you how to fix it
[10:12] <xushi> epimeth: i'm logged in as root, and whe i want to test xushi i su - xushi
[10:12] <xushi> then sudo ls to test sudo
[10:12] <xushi> i'm in the recovery mode
[10:12] <epimeth> ohhh
[10:12] <xy> heh i don't know what it is since there is no error message, but im sure the link to alsa-util is broken somewhere
[10:12] <xushi> woah!
[10:12] <epimeth> what happened when you tried to go in to the regular kernel?
[10:12] <xushi> found a typo in the pam configs, sec
[10:13] <FeistyForge> xy if you know where its supposed to be
[10:13] <xushi> when reg kernel, it asks for login, but same prolem
[10:13] <FeistyForge> you may be able to use a symbolic link
[10:13] <xy> i don't that is the problem
[10:13] <epimeth> still with the pam?
[10:13] <FeistyForge> well then I'm sorry I can't help you any further...
[10:13] <xushi> damn man
[10:13] <xy> this is my first encounter with a problem like this
[10:13] <epimeth> a type in the pam configs probably would kill the whole thing, now? :-)
[10:13] <epimeth> s/now/no
[10:13] <xushi> epimeth: i got it to work now.. (ALMOST)
[10:13] <xushi> lol yea
[10:14] <epimeth> great!
[10:14] <xushi> it still gives me the pam_winbind errors, but atleast it executes the sudo command
[10:14] <xushi> sec, let me reboot into normal kernel and see what happens
[10:14] <epimeth> reboot the machine
[10:14] <mena> Hi
[10:14] <epimeth> that'll restart winbind
[10:14] <epimeth> and probably fix everything
[10:14] <mena> How are yyou all?
[10:14] <xy> hopefully someone in here can surely help to fix my kmix current mixer issue
[10:14] <tdn> Are there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?
[10:14] <petesejt> System was: Edgy (updated) with Beryl 0.2.0. Adept hanged during the upgrade process so hard, that even 'halt' did not work from console. After restart I do not have console at all not even in recovery mode. Anyone?
[10:14] <xushi> instead of use_first_pass, it was user_first_pass.. damn i hate typoes
[10:15] <mena> can I join you?
[10:15] <xushi> epimeth: btw, thanks for all the help so far, you really offered a lot :)
[10:15] <epimeth> xushi: no worries
[10:16] <FeistyForge> ouch pete...
[10:16] <FeistyForge> can you boot from a liveCD?
[10:16] <petesejt> Now I can not have a console in any kernels.....
[10:16] <FeistyForge> maybe you can check it out from there?
[10:16] <petesejt> sure
[10:16] <petesejt> edgy or feisty?
[10:17] <FeistyForge> either
[10:17] <petesejt> FeistyForge: may I call u in pvt?
[10:17] <xushi> epimeth: there's one more thing too, slightly off topic.. I accidentally installed NIS. Now when booting it always says "binding to YP server..." and hangs there for about 4 minutes... how can i get rid of that ?
[10:17] <FeistyForge> just an OS that has ext3-accessibility
[10:17] <xushi> just uninstall NIS ?
[10:17] <FeistyForge> pete to be honest I doubt its going to be of much use
[10:18] <xy> hey one more question. if there is only my account and root, is my uid supposed to be 1000, or 1001
[10:18] <petesejt> The last line I can see in recovery mode is "* Setting up console font and keymap..." Shall I try to boot to console only?
[10:19] <ForgeAus> if you like...
[10:19] <aldin> how to run kwebdesktop?
[10:19] <petesejt> Im gonna try it now, back soon.
[10:19] <jujimufu> I have three keyboard layouts on KDE, all installed and running. However, I would like to switch layouts without having to click on the tray icon, just by pressing left Shift+Alt, for example (like in windows). How do I set this up?
[10:20] <epimeth> xushi: I have no idea... maybe?
[10:20] <underdog5004> bleagh, I can't sleep...
[10:21] <ForgeAus> Juji I'm suprised skim doesn't have something to do that for oyu
[10:22] <epimeth> underdog5004: bleagh, yea... that happens to me when I have a nice warm girlfriend to snuggle up with... I just don't usually go back online after!
[10:23] <matthias> Hello. I've got a question about my WLAN (RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)) It's not working with Feisty, so I compiled another driver for it to get it work. The Problem is that I often have to run dhclient to get into the net again. Do anyone have the same problems?
[10:23] <underdog5004> rofl, she's really warm...too warm to lay with under covers....but it's too cold w/o covers...and I can't fall asleep...she's already asleep...
[10:24] <mena> Hi
[10:24] <mena> Is this the online help of Kubuntu?/
[10:24] <epimeth> xushi: does you network use nis?
[10:24] <epimeth> mena: yes
[10:24] <underdog5004> mena, yep
[10:24] <underdog5004> what do you need help w/ ?
[10:25] <mena> I was just wondering, I'm a migrative from Windows XP
[10:25] <epimeth> underdog5004: if you're trying to get me to want to hurt you, you're doing a good job...
[10:25] <mena> :)
[10:25] <underdog5004> epimeth, I use stumbleupon, and when I clicked it today, it said that I'd looked at _every_ linux/unix page available...
[10:25] <epimeth> mena: welcome!
[10:25] <epimeth> lol
[10:25] <underdog5004> mena, what can we help you with?
[10:26] <epimeth> matthias: I have that problem with my desktop
[10:26] <matthias> No, I don't have nis
[10:26] <mena> Thanks
[10:26] <underdog5004> epimeth, uh...what?
[10:26] <matthias> epimeth: What WLAN-Card do you use?
[10:26] <eric> I have a Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 what nvidia driver should i install to use it with Compiz and Kubuntu?
[10:27] <epimeth> matthias: I can't for the life of me figure out why...  I didn't have to recompile like you
[10:27] <xushi> epimeth: no. Just to make sure, the netbios name, is that my machine name?
[10:27] <ForgeAus> ahh actually theres a tray applet for keyboard configs
[10:27] <epimeth> matthias: mines a realtek something or other
[10:27] <epimeth> matthias: and nis wasn't aimed at you, it was to xushi
[10:27] <underdog5004> eric, I've got an FX 5500, I use the 9753 driver, I think
[10:27] <Tm_T> eric: hmm, you mean, "do I have to" or "can I" ?
[10:27] <epimeth> xushi: yes
[10:27] <underdog5004> !envy | eric
[10:27] <mena> Is there something like msdn? for devlopement over Kubuntu?
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <epimeth> underdog5004: haha... no ubotu help for you!
[10:28] <eric> well i used adept manager to install the nvidia-glx driver and when i try to run compiz it doesnt work...
[10:28] <matthias> Hmm.. that's crazy.
[10:28] <Tm_T> eric: whoops, sorry, misread, just install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[10:28] <eric> what one should i use?
[10:28] <epimeth> matthias: yea... drives me nutso
[10:28] <underdog5004> eric, check out nvidia.com for more info...
[10:28] <underdog5004> eric, h/o a sec
[10:28] <epimeth> matthias: and I can't find conf files for knetworkmanager anywhere
[10:29] <underdog5004> eric, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:29] <mena> Is there something like msdn? for devlopement over Kubuntu?
[10:29] <epimeth> matthias: I *know* all of my /etc/networking/interfaces are correct
[10:29] <matthias> Right. KNetworkManager isn't working with my card, too.
[10:29] <underdog5004> nice installer. It'll auto-detect your card and d/l the driver for it...and install it
[10:29] <erikja> !focus
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about focus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <erikja> !focus follows mouse
[10:30] <erikja> !mouse
[10:30] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:30] <underdog5004> erikja, you need to enable sloppy focusing
[10:30] <underdog5004> it'll be under focus model...don't know where though...lemme poke around
[10:30] <Tm_T> eric: as I said,  nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[10:31] <Tm_T> eric: both works
[10:31] <epimeth> underdog5004: nice installer my @ss... didn't work with mine.  I read the news... he said "my nVidia geForce2 card died the other day, so I won't finish the driver for it"... I'm like WHAT?!?!?!?!? what do I do now???  so I just used the driver from nvidia.com and everything worked :-)
[10:31] <underdog5004> epimeth, ha ha, and watch the language. Unless you have a geforce2 card, np
[10:31] <epimeth> matthias: you misunderstand... Knetworkmanager works with my card, I just have to tell it to connect every time
[10:31] <xushi> and kubuntu just froze on me again...
[10:32] <epimeth> geforce2 mx/400 :-)
[10:32] <xushi> i cannot trust this
[10:32] <underdog5004> hahahahaha, I have a Geforce2 Go in my lappy...envy doesn't get the right driver for it...although nvidia lists the wrong driver for it as well!
[10:33] <epimeth> matthias: and if I dhclient *after* I log in to X then I can access the network from all terminals, but not with X until I connect through knetworkmanager
[10:33] <epimeth> matthias: how's that for awesome? :)
[10:33] <epimeth> xushi: what happened now?
[10:33] <sonoftheclayr> underdog5004: what driver do i need? i have the same card. can you get yours to work? i only get a blank screen
[10:33] <xushi> epimeth: it just froze... it happens a lot with kubuntu since i installed it for some reason
[10:33] <erikja> underdog5004: thanks for your info. How do I that ??. SORRY!, I have a phone here :-)
[10:33] <xushi> is there anyway to find te cause or anythig ?
[10:33] <epimeth> underdog5004: I know! but during the install it tells you which one to use
[10:34] <underdog5004> erikja, go under systemsettings, Window Behaviour, then change the policy to sloppy, or focus follows mouse
[10:34] <erikja> ok
[10:34] <matthias> epimeth: After all a small step.. :-) I solved the problem with an script: It checks, wether the connection is online. If not, the script calls dhclient :-)
[10:34] <epimeth> xushi: thats strange... before or after you started playing with samba and kerberos?
[10:34] <epimeth> matthias: I'll get around to it eventually
[10:35] <underdog5004> epimeth, I can't remember which driver...it's the one that's one more recent than the one recommended...
[10:35] <xushi> epimeth: way before
[10:35] <xushi> epimeth: could it be nvidia drivers ?
[10:35] <eric> Ok, now that i have it in, when i try to run Compiz i lose all my window bars on the tops and nothing will open!
[10:35] <epimeth> xushi: lol... got nvidia on the brain? :-)
[10:35] <underdog5004> bummer
[10:36] <mena> Please, can anyone reply me
[10:36] <matthias> epimeth: Ok!
[10:36] <epimeth> xushi: dunno... could be so many things... try disabling all services and enabling them one by one till you find the source of the problem
[10:36] <xushi> epimeth: NV44 GF 6200 turbocache, with the 9631 drivers installed
[10:36] <epimeth> matthias: sorry I can't help you :-)
[10:36] <matthias> Mena: you can use kopete, or what do you mean?
[10:37] <eric> Anyone know why? Ok, now that i have it in, when i try to run Compiz i lose all my window bars on the tops and nothing will open!
[10:37] <epimeth> matthias: actually.... have you tried manually setting the mac address for dhcp-server in interfaces?
[10:37] <underdog5004> eric, check compiz' forums/wiki
[10:37] <eric> for what underdog?
[10:37] <underdog5004> I think they've got an IRC channel as well
[10:37] <underdog5004> eric, for a solution to your problem...
[10:37] <mena> What is Kopete?
[10:38] <eric> what is thier irc channel?
[10:38] <underdog5004> eric, I don't know...why don't you CTFW ?
[10:38] <underdog5004> Check the Website
[10:38] <matthias> epimeth: It's ok, I only wanted to know if anyone else have the same problem.. :-) It works in a way..
[10:38] <epimeth> xushi: that tells me absollutely nothing... I'm recently released from the army where I was very disconnected from new hardware for a while... its like "wha?? when did they start using big numbers?  last I heard we were at geforce 4!!! :-)
[10:38] <epimeth> matthias: no worries :-)
[10:38] <xushi> hehe
[10:38] <xushi> fair enough
[10:39] <matthias> Yeah, I set up the macaddress. If I do not, it wouldn't work.. :-)
[10:39] <epimeth> xushi: you tried logging in as a domain user yet?
[10:40] <epimeth> matthias: oh... even worse than my problem, then
[10:40] <mena> Please can anyone tell me more about Kopete?
[10:41] <Tm_T> mena: what about it?
[10:41] <underdog5004> !kopete
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <epimeth> mena: what do you want to know about it?
[10:41] <underdog5004> weird...h/o, mena, lemme use google...cause it's really hard!
[10:41] <Tm_T> underdog5004: Kopete is not hard =)
[10:41] <Sesshoumaru> !wtf
[10:41] <underdog5004> http://kopete.kde.org/
[10:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <xushi> not yet. When i try and login through net ads join, it gives me the error: Host is not configured as a member server. Invalid Configuration. Exitting....
[10:41] <Tm_T> mena: just ask what you like to know
[10:41] <Sesshoumaru> !apt-get
[10:41] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:41] <underdog5004> mena, http://kopete.kde.org/
[10:41] <eric> i can't find anything on this error
[10:41] <matthias> mena: Sorry, I understood you were looking for "MSN", not for MSDN :-) Ok, now I know what you meant *gg*
[10:42] <xushi> epimeth: but the samba configs are more or less the same as the ones provided in the link
[10:42] <Tm_T> !compiz | eric
[10:42] <ubotu> eric: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:42] <Sesshoumaru> !wifi
[10:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:42] <Tm_T> mena: btw you're always free to come #kopete ;)
[10:42] <eric> I can't find anything about missing window bars and not being able to open anything
[10:42] <matthias> Mena: Are you looking for API-Help or something like that?
[10:43] <eric> I did the install of compiz step by step
[10:43] <eric> and put in nvidia-glx driver
[10:43] <eric> rebooted and ran compiz and i have no window bars and i cant open anything
[10:43] <eric> :(
[10:43] <mena> Sorry my machine is so slow
[10:44] <mena> Yes
[10:44] <Tm_T> eric: #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <mena> API help
[10:44] <Tm_T> mena: #kopete might help with that ;)
[10:44] <Tm_T> mena: and also techbase.kde.org
[10:44] <epimeth> eric: lol... that just means compiz is working
[10:44] <epimeth> hehe
[10:44] <matthias> Which kind of API are you searching?
[10:44] <Sesshoumaru> anyone know how to automatically connect to wifi without using keyring
[10:44] <mena> Okay
[10:44] <epimeth> eric you have to install a theme as well
[10:45] <mena> Tell me more about techbase.kde.org
[10:45] <petesejt> FeistyForge: r u still here?
[10:45] <matthias> Yeah, techbase.kde.org is cool for KDE stuff.
[10:45] <Tm_T> techbase <3
[10:46] <mena> I have a question
[10:46] <Tm_T> ask then
[10:46] <petesejt> Adept hanged during upgrade, now I am without console. Anyone?
[10:46] <matthias> mena: you only have to browse on that page, it's easy to find what you want there.
[10:47] <epimeth> xushi: wins support = no
[10:47] <epimeth> your dc should be the wins server
[10:47] <mena> I have downloaded all the packages, each one of them will installing, resulted in errors, and then  adept says that I have all the updates installed, how come?
[10:48] <matthias> mena: which packages?
[10:48] <epimeth> xushi: security = ads... geez man, you didn't read the howto at all! :-p
[10:49] <mena> Kdevelop
[10:49] <xushi> epimeth: security is = to ads, i changed it while going through samba a while ago
[10:50] <Tm_T> matthias: and exact error is...
[10:50] <epimeth> xushi: back up your smb.conf, then create a new one and copy/paste whats in the howto's smb.conf.  then, once everything is working start adding the things you want
[10:50] <epimeth> such as shares, printers, and the like
[10:50] <xushi> yea good idea
[10:50] <petesejt> Adept hanged to death (even 'halt' did not respond!) during upgrade from edgy to feisty. After reboot I do not have a console at all even in recovery mode. Details in pvt. Anyone?
[10:50] <matthias> Tm_T: No there is no error. The only sign is that the connection is down to my router.
[10:51] <Tm_T> whops
[10:52] <epimeth> petesejt: seems a lot of people have had problems doing that upgrade...
[10:52] <epimeth> petesejt: if you don't have a console then there is really nothing anyone can do, afaik...
[10:52] <roel_> does anybody here use argouml. If so how did you install it because It won't work here?
[10:53] <epimeth> make sure you're system is compatable with fesity (no reason why not) by using the livecd, then reinstall... best I can offer you right now.  someone else probably knows more than me, tho, so you might want to hang around
[10:54] <petesejt> epimeth: thanks. Now I have Edgy Live up and running. Is there a relatively easy way to fix the problem?
[10:56] <epimeth> petesejt: I just said... install from scratch :-) but feisty, not edgy!  unless there is any good reason for you not to install from scratch?
[10:57] <petesejt> epimeth: may I call you in pvt?
[10:58] <epimeth> petesejt: sure
[10:58] <xushi> I have another problem here.. i replaced my mysql databases with th ebackup i need from work. Now evrytime i try and start mysql from the init script, it says error, access denied for user debian-sys-maint@localhost.
[10:58] <flaccid> can you login as root
[11:00] <flaccid> was one of the tables you restored called 'mysql'?
[11:00] <epimeth> xushi: heh... my knowledge of proper mysql administration is less than complete... sounds like a GRANT problem to m
[11:00] <epimeth> e
[11:00] <xushi> yea, but grant all on what? on mysql.* ?
[11:00] <flaccid> its not that simple
[11:01] <flaccid> learn mysql or goto #mysq
[11:01] <flaccid> #mysql
[11:01] <xushi> flaccid: i know mysql thank you very much
[11:01] <xushi> and i use it on other systems that dont require this silly user
[11:01] <flaccid> ah like i said
[11:01] <xushi> so no it's not a #mysql issue, it's a #ubuntu /#kubuntu issue
[11:01] <flaccid> can you log in as root
[11:01] <xushi> yes i can
[11:02] <flaccid> then if you know mysql, you could look at the tables in the mysql database and see what the problem is with user debian-sys-maint
[11:03] <xushi> flaccid: if you know mysql and kubuntu, you would have noticed, as i said, that this had nothing to do with that.. IT's the username that needt to be in single quotes coz of the dash -
[11:04] <epimeth> xushi: flaccid's right... seems like the backup has tables corresponding to this user but your mysql doesn't have it....
[11:04] <xushi> seriously, either help properly or stfu and let others hlep
[11:04] <xushi> it's solved now
[11:04] <epimeth> xushi: what was it?
[11:04] <flaccid> was i right?
[11:05] <xushi> flaccid: no
[11:05] <flaccid> then what was it
[11:05] <xushi> i just said it,
[11:05] <xushi> the grant line, the username has a dash in it
[11:05] <epimeth> oh
[11:05] <xushi> debian-sys-init
[11:05] <xushi> it didnt accept it
[11:05] <xushi> so i had to put that in single quotes
[11:05] <epimeth> you should always put in single quotes anyway
[11:05] <flaccid> grant line of what?
[11:05] <xushi> ....... to 'debian-sys-init'
[11:05] <xushi> grant line for that user
[11:06] <flaccid> in what?
[11:06] <xushi> in mysql
[11:06] <xushi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=984672
[11:06] <flaccid> what is a grant line?
[11:06] <flaccid> lol
[11:06] <petesejt> epimeth: can you read my pvt messages? (I am not registered, and I got an  error message from IRC server...)
[11:06] <xushi> that link explains it
[11:07] <flaccid> yep so mysql issue :)
[11:07] <flaccid> incorrect user perms
[11:07] <epimeth> petesejt: sorry... can't... why don't you register?  you'll probably find yourself in here a lot at first and its a good idea to have a nick reserved for your use
[11:07] <xushi> the user did not exist
[11:07] <flaccid> you restored a different password for the user
[11:07] <petesejt> Ok, I will register, but later.
[11:08] <flaccid> that user doesn't come with ubuntu
[11:08] <epimeth> xushi: like I said, user didn't exist :-p
[11:08] <flaccid> ok then you restored the mysql database without that user...
[11:09] <flaccid> not kubuntus fault thats for sure
[11:09] <xushi> dude wtf is your problem ?
[11:09] <flaccid> you
[11:09] <xushi> go fuck yourself
[11:09] <epimeth> xushi: language, mate
[11:09] <flaccid> i like to correct people that say i am wrong, when i am right. is there something wrong with that?
[11:10] <xushi> dude, i ask a question, the only reponce i get fro you is "learn mysql or go to #mysql". that is not help ok, that's just offensive
[11:10] <epimeth> flaccid... he's right you know... you said "it's not that simple" but it was
[11:11] <epimeth> but you're right in saying that it isn't a k/ubuntu problem
[11:11] <raffytaffy> sudo e2fsck -p -v /dev/sda1    will this cause data loss on an external HD?
[11:11] <dwbell> can anyone help me subscribe to rss feeds using firefox / akregator?
[11:11] <xushi> i gues i've been in #gentoo too long to expect GOOD answers and replies than this sh*t, appart from epimeth who'se been of great help
[11:11] <flaccid> if you look at the mysql manual. user management is not as simple as grant if you are creating a new user....
[11:11] <epimeth> but will both of you chill out before at least one of you gets kicked?
[11:12] <flaccid> has nothing to do with me if you restore the mysql db
[11:12] <ubuntu> hi
[11:12] <xushi> flaccid,k you're on my ignore list.. sod it, i really am not going to sink as low as you are to continue this.. i'm not 12 years old here
[11:12] <xushi> there are others here that deserve replies and ask for help
[11:12] <epimeth> hi ubuntu!
[11:12] <flaccid> xushi: i don't understand why you are acting like this. there is not tone on irc. i was simply advising the reason for your problem.
[11:12] <epimeth> raffytaffy: not a clue
[11:13] <raffytaffy> ty epimeth ...im runing it now hehe we shall see
[11:13] <epimeth> heh... good luck
[11:13] <flaccid> and i have never said you were 12 years old thank you very much
[11:13] <raffytaffy> 250 gigs to go:|
[11:14] <raffytaffy> it tells me that the first block is bad. rest are fine. i hope this is not the end to this hard drive. its brand new
[11:15] <epimeth> then it'll still be under warrantee! yay! a new new drive!
[11:15] <epimeth> :-)
[11:15] <flaccid> you can run smart scans on the hard disk to check its health
[11:15] <raffytaffy> its 1 month+ old from seagate
[11:15] <flaccid> !info smartmontools
[11:15] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[11:15] <fadey> Hi, everyone. I'm having a problem installing libsnmp-base on Feisty? I'm getting a "post-installation script returned error code 1"
[11:15] <raffytaffy> flaccid: cool
[11:15] <flaccid> fadey: pastebin the whole output
[11:20] <fadey> flaccid: console is non-english. doesn't say too much though.
[11:20] <flaccid> in that case,  would suggest searching launchpad for bugs with that package
[11:20] <flaccid> to see if they exist
[11:21] <flaccid> if there is not missing file or other issues then it could purely be a bug
[11:21] <fadey> thanks
[11:21] <flaccid> np
[11:21] <flaccid> !bugs
[11:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:24] <Tm_T> flaccid: I'd say: too much info there
[11:24] <underdog5004> whatever you do, do _not_ read stopmyabortion.blogspot.com
[11:24] <flaccid> you don't like beer Tm_T?
[11:24] <underdog5004> sick, twisted, disgusting, immoral, etc...
[11:24] <underdog5004> g'night, again
[11:24] <flaccid> reverse marketing heh
[11:24] <underdog5004> I'm serious!
[11:25] <flaccid> :p
[11:25] <Tm_T> flaccid: no, more like, we don't care, nor need that info
[11:26] <flaccid> thats fair enough
[11:26] <flaccid> however this is freenode
[11:26] <flaccid> i emphasise 'free' there
[11:27] <Tm_T> flaccid: however, if it goes to "ooh I'm so wasted" -> kickban
[11:27] <flaccid> wtf
[11:27] <flaccid> why would you assume that?
[11:27] <Tm_T> no I don't assume
[11:27] <flaccid> are you an op or something?
[11:27] <flaccid> then why did you say that?
[11:27] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:27] <flaccid> i had operator privs?
[11:27] <Tm_T> flaccid: I just have seen that way too much
[11:28] <Tm_T> flaccid: no you didn't
[11:28] <flaccid> well guess what im not every other user you have seen
[11:28] <flaccid> i don't like being judged
[11:28] <flaccid> its weird coz my client said this: [2007-05-02 19:27]  *** Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from you.
[11:28] <Tm_T> flaccid: well, I did remove it, though you never had it ;)
[11:29] <flaccid> and what point did that make?
[11:29] <Tm_T> and I don't judge, just tell you where my limits goes
[11:29] <Tm_T> fun?
[11:29] <flaccid> hi Tm_T, i'm a user that spends 20+ hours a week here helping users, how are you today?
[11:30] <flaccid> one could term my innocent /me drinking beer as fun
[11:31] <flaccid> but i dont' abuse my non-existant op privs..
[11:32] <Tm_T> flaccid: aww <3
[11:33] <Tm_T> epimeth <3
[11:33] <flaccid> would you like to introduce yourself, Tm_T?
[11:33] <flaccid> since i have done such a pleasantry
[11:34] <Tm_T> flaccid: let's see, I'm irc op, used ~14 hours a day in irc help or related, err, and other devel stuff I guess
[11:34] <xavito> Hey guys, from a moment to another my sound stopped working and Kmix says "Mixer cannot be found" what happened ?
[11:34] <epimeth> seriously mate... you're kind of annoying today.  I've seen you around before and didn't have a problem, but I gotta say my hackles are rising here
[11:34] <Tm_T> epimeth: it's ok
[11:35] <flaccid> Tm_T: what is your association with kubuntu then?
[11:35] <Tm_T> flaccid: hmm, someone says I'm kubuntu devel, though I consider myself just active
[11:35] <flaccid> fair enough
[11:35] <flaccid> epimeth: don't highten things that don't need to be
[11:35] <Tm_T> flaccid: and btw I have nothing against you :)
[11:36] <flaccid> Tm_T: neither do i sir :)
[11:36] <Tm_T> <3
[11:36] <flaccid> i don't see the point in fighting
[11:36] <flaccid> it is nice to speak to an op in this channel considering i've been here for nearly 2 years helping
[11:36] <epimeth> heh
[11:36] <flaccid> its a rare occasion..
[11:36] <Tm_T> flaccid: and to make sure, whenever you disagree with me or other ops here, feel free to poke us in #ubuntu-ops
[11:37] <epimeth> you've probably spoken to them a number of times without noticing :-)
[11:37] <flaccid> Tm_T: fair enough. i'll keep that in mind
[11:37] <Tm_T> flaccid: and I've been here ~2 years too ;)
[11:37] <epimeth> first time jucato put on his op mask I was like "whoa!"
[11:37] <flaccid> um yeah i don't know who the ops are obviously.. i just know who the good helpers are
[11:38] <flaccid> me and jucy are 'mates' but i only know a few other people that are regular actual helpers here
[11:38] <Tm_T> flaccid: uh, count me out ;)
[11:38] <flaccid> count you out of what exactly
[11:38] <xmart> test
[11:38] <xmart> oha
[11:38] <flaccid> hello world!
[11:39] <raffytaffy_> epimeth- after runing that command. i got the output of - 0 bad blocks..some non-contigous files. and a missing lost&found which was created. now the HD mounts via fstab
[11:39] <raffytaffy_> i hope its fixed hmm
[11:39] <berkes> does anyone know if there is a gui tool in KDE for managing etc/hosts?
[11:39] <epimeth> thanks for the info.... but I didn't tell you to do anything?
[11:39] <flaccid> sounds quite positive to me. raffytaffy_ do some smart scans to verify physical health of drive if you want to
[11:39] <epimeth> raffytaffy_: ^
[11:40] <raffytaffy_> i just figured it tell u since u answered my question earlier
[11:40] <epimeth> berkes: yea... kate :-)
[11:40] <flaccid> berkes: i don't know of any abstracted guis, but of course there is kate/kwrite to open it in
[11:40] <Tm_T> flaccid: from "good helpers", I've been quite inactive
[11:40] <epimeth> raffytaffy_: kay :-)  congrats on the not killing your HD! :-)
[11:41] <raffytaffy_> ty ty "takes a bow hehe"
[11:41] <berkes> yea, epimeth, flaccid, I use sudo vim now, but this is for a client who wants to streamline some of his work.
[11:41] <epimeth> Tm_T: thats not true... you've helped me out before
[11:41] <flaccid> Tm_T: oh ok. i guess i help here enough to know the 10 most frequent issues so to speak
[11:41] <baskitcaise> raffytaffy_: segate do a commendline set of tools for linux
[11:41] <epimeth> berkes: so yea... dunno if there's anything... just make a link to kdesu kate /etc/hosts on his desktop
[11:42] <baskitcaise> s/seagate/segate
[11:42] <raffytaffy_> baskitcaise: is this a program in apt-get?
[11:42] <flaccid> berkes: kdesu kate /etc/hosts or of course a script or binary or whatever could read/write access the file
[11:42] <baskitcaise> raffytaffy_: nah, you have to go to the seagate site
[11:42] <raffytaffy_> cool baskitcaise ty
[11:43] <baskitcaise> raffytaffy_: was just a thought if you have more probs
[11:43] <berkes> flaccid: sure, but I was hoping more for something that allows configuration on a level of SuSEs apache tools and so.
[11:44] <ouanetwo> hello !
[11:44] <flaccid> berkes: the reason it hasn't been made i because its not required. /etc/hosts is is a simple name/value pair separated by a cf/lr
[11:44] <epimeth> berkes: its just a hosts list... not even windows has a gui for that
[11:45] <ouanetwo> plantage systematique du client IRC sous Firefox (2.0.0.3) sous dapper ?
[11:45] <andrea_> ciao
[11:45] <flaccid> berkes: the data structure of the config file is vasty different and primitive in comparison to apache
[11:47] <flaccid> im sure suse doesn't have a frontend to /etc/hosts :)
[11:48] <flaccid> epimeth: i think i echo you a lot tonight :;
[11:48] <epimeth> flaccid: I don't mind... as long as its not the other way around :-)
[11:48] <flaccid> haha
[11:49] <jeroen__> Hi all can someone help me i tried to install the latest java but i couldnt get it to work can somone help me with a terminal command or something?
[11:49] <epimeth> ew...
[11:49] <flaccid> !java
[11:49] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:49] <epimeth> jeroen__: what did you do, exactly?
[11:49] <flaccid> epimeth: mojo in the sense of the actual word
[11:49] <berkes> flaccid: afaik it does not have one no. I was just hoping something was around. its simple yes, but hard to maintain manually in text editor once you grow over a few hundred of domains. Yes, I know I should move to bind9 and all. i'm just looking for simple solutions :)
[11:50] <ouanetwo> Client IRC d'ubuntu (dapper) sous firefox (2.0.0.3) qui plante avec une version de java "1.5.0_06" - merci pour vos idees
[11:50] <flaccid> berkes: if you are having problems editing it in kate or another gui text editor then sadly thats your problem :(
[11:51] <flaccid> !fr
[11:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:52] <jeroen__> epimeth i installed the latest java and installed it on mydesctop making a dir first and then install due i couldnt copy it to usr/
[11:53] <flaccid> /usr is not the right place
[11:53] <epimeth> why didn't you install using apt-get or adept?
[11:53] <flaccid> man heir :)
[11:53] <jeroen__> i use still dapper
[11:54] <epimeth> and java6 is not in the repository for dapper? hmm...
[11:54] <epimeth> well lets take a look at what sun has to say
[11:54] <jeroen__> i tried to install the selfunpacking java
[11:54] <xavito> Hey guys, from a moment to another my sound stopped working and Kmix says "Mixer cannot be found" what happened ?
[11:54] <jeroen__> epimeth i really tried alot i tried to install it on local too
[11:55] <raffytaffy_> baskitcaise: any idea if the HD needs to be unmounted to use this seagate tool. ( i have it ready to go)
[11:56] <baskitcaise> raffytaffy_: sorry long time since I used them not sure now
[11:56] <epimeth> jeroen__: Java SE?
[11:56] <raffytaffy_> ahh ok ty thou. this seems like a handy tool
[11:56] <berkes> flaccid: don't get rude. And its not my problem. If you read what I said above: its to improve the overall experience for a client.
[11:56] <flaccid> berkes: you don't expose clients to /etc/hosts . like you said you use DNS.
[11:56] <flaccid> im not being rude btw
[11:57] <jeroen__> epimeth: i have no clue i still have java webstart 1.4
[11:58] <jeroen__> i try and did everything they said on the java site and chmod and stuff
[11:58] <jaaroo> hello there. Does anyone know where linux cryptographic api headers can be found? I don't even have /usr/include/linux/crypto/ and don't know which package I should I install.
[11:59] <epimeth> and it still isn't working?
[11:59] <oyvind> why is there no theme on kubuntu when i start beryl?
[12:00] <jeroen__> epimeth:  i just want java so i can run frostwire and go to chat sites who have upgrate their java :s
[12:01] <epimeth> jeroen__: lets see what I can do for you :-)
[12:02] <jeroen__> epimeth:  thank you:D
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> jeroen__ : do you have j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin? you should be able to get it through adept or apt-get
[12:03] <jeroen__> epimeth:  i did get my dvd player working and my new tft screen :d
[12:04] <jeroen__> i think not dettoaltrimenti:
[12:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> jeroen__ : install that, and java should work
[12:04] <jeroen__> i use apt-get
[12:05] <toyd> jeroen such a funny nick
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> jeroen__ : sudo apt-get j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[12:05] <jeroen__> lol toyd its my name:d
[12:05] <toyd> jer oentje :o
[12:05] <toyd> ;D
[12:05] <jeroen__> dettoaltrimenti_: it does something:d
[12:06] <dettoaltrimenti_> it does something?
[12:06] <epimeth> lol
[12:06] <jeroen__> its installing or so:d
[12:06] <epimeth> thats a good response
[12:06] <toyd> how come no good soccerplayer ever named jeroen jeroen__
[12:06] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh ok see if that works
[12:06] <flaccid> jaaroo: did you try openssl dev/devel packages?
[12:06] <toyd> "o{
[12:06] <toyd> ,("o)> SEGA
[12:07] <jeroen__> toyd i have no clue i dont like soccer:p
[12:07] <toyd> LIES
[12:08] <jeroen__> ;'(
[12:08] <toyd> or maybe true you think of yourself as intelligent so you ignore all the pleasures us simple folks have and even use stuff we simple folks made and use it to make even more profit
[12:08] <toyd> ;p
[12:08] <epimeth> whoa
[12:09] <jeroen__> <shakes head>
[12:09] <epimeth> jeroen__: so? did dettoaltrimenti_ 's suggestion work?
[12:09] <toyd> linux is great
[12:09] <jeroen__> not quite
[12:09] <toyd> to bad its only a kernel ;p
[12:10] <jeroen__> i get a kross in the left chat apelet
[12:10] <epimeth> does it say what version of java is required to use it?
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> jeroen__ did you restart firefox
[12:11] <epimeth> dettoaltrimenti_: maybe he needs 5?  5 is in the repo for him, 6 isn't.
[12:11] <jeroen__> dettoaltrimenti_: yup
[12:11] <flaccid> toyd: bsd *cough* :)
[12:12] <Neil-> anyone know a vrml viewer for ubuntu? pref. with a mozilla/firefox plugin..
[12:12] <toyd> flaccid: what about #nix
[12:12] <epimeth> jeroen__: try $sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[12:12] <flaccid> toyd: thats a channel, not an OS :p
[12:13] <toyd> ok i need a torrent client for kubuntu where can i get one
[12:13] <epimeth> ktorrent
[12:13] <flaccid> from the repos, toyd
[12:13] <epimeth> its already iunstalled
[12:13] <toyd> is rtorrent any good?
[12:13] <epimeth> rtorrent is command line
[12:13] <epimeth> and yes
[12:13] <toyd> :P
[12:13] <jeroen__> epimeth: ok
[12:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> toyd: sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[12:13] <toyd> k thanks
[12:14] <epimeth> jeroen__: lemme know when thats done
[12:14] <flaccid> a prefer azureus but its always had some kind of issues on ubuntu versions
[12:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> toyd: rtorrent is great, but it's a CLI
[12:14] <toyd> ok i see
[12:14] <jeroen__> epimeth: ok i will
[12:17] <bumzo> hi...
[12:17] <bumzo> I need hel with RAW partition
[12:18] <bumzo> help
[12:18] <jeroen__> epimeth: its done i get a config thing
[12:19] <toyd> !automatix
[12:19] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:19] <nathan> hey
[12:19] <nathan> i have installed beryl how do i turn it on?
[12:19] <flaccid> thos automatix guys must be doing some long thinking
[12:20] <nathan1> i have installed beryl how do i turn it on?
[12:20] <jussi01> how do I change the default font in open office?
[12:20] <nathan1> lol
[12:20] <epimeth> jeroen__: you get a config thing?  whats it asking?
[12:21] <jeroen__> licence and stuff
[12:21] <jussi01> nathan1: alt+f2 -> type beryl manager
[12:21] <jeroen__> i said yes
[12:21] <jeroen__> its done now
[12:21] <epimeth> jeroen__: okay
[12:21] <epimeth> jeroen__: now run update-java-alternatives -l
[12:21] <epimeth> thats a dash el at the end
[12:21] <bumzo> !RAW
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <jeroen__> epimeth: ok and then
[12:22] <jeroen__> it tells me where java is installed?
[12:23] <adriana10> aguien me pasa el canal de ubuntu en espaol?
[12:23] <nathan1> aha cool thanks beryl rules
[12:23] <epimeth> jeroen__: what does it show you?
[12:23] <epimeth> !es > adriana10
[12:23] <Jucato> !es | adriana10
[12:23] <ubotu> adriana10: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:23] <tdn> Are there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?
[12:24] <jeroen__> epimeth: java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[12:24] <adriana10> gracias
[12:24] <epimeth> adriana10: de nada
[12:24] <epimeth> jeroen__: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[12:25] <epimeth> and show me the contents of /etc/jvm
[12:25] <jeroen__> epimeth: ok done
[12:25] <flaccid> me loco Jucato
[12:25] <flaccid> :p
[12:26] <jeroen__> epimeth:
[12:26] <jeroen__> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/unpack200' to provide `unpack200'.
[12:26] <jeroen__> No alternatives for firefox-javaplugin.so.
[12:26] <jeroen__> No alternatives for mozilla-javaplugin.so.
[12:26] <jeroen__> No alternatives for mozilla-snapshot-javaplugin.so.
[12:26] <flaccid> cool Jucato, but you know spanish so me loco!
[12:27] <Jucato> flaccid: nope I don't...
[12:27] <Jucato> !paste | jeroen__
[12:27] <ubotu> jeroen__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:27] <jeroen__> :o
[12:27] <jeroen__> :s
[12:27] <flaccid> Jucato: you seem pretty good at it br0 sometimes
[12:28] <Jucato> I am? :O
[12:28] <flaccid> yeah damn straight
[12:28] <flaccid> you can pass for a hispanic fillo any day :p
[12:28] <xavito> Is there a comand to build my system again ?
[12:28] <epimeth> ai... dios mio
[12:28] <Jucato> xavito: what do you mean by build it again?
[12:29] <jeroen__> ai ai ai
[12:29] <jeroen__> mille gratias epimeth ;)
[12:29] <xavito> Jucato: just like install everything again, but with the programs I modified and keeping the configurations...
[12:29] <epimeth> jeroen__: now sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[12:29] <Jucato> ah hm...
[12:30] <jeroen__> epimeth: ok done
[12:30] <Jucato> if you have your /home directory on a different partition, that should do (part of) the trick
[12:30] <epimeth> parada el mundu, quiero bajar!
[12:30] <epimeth> jeroen__: restart firefox...
[12:30] <xavito> Jucato, I do have my /home directory in another partition, but there's software that I installed and doesen't come in the installation CD...
[12:31] <jeroen__> ok epimeth
[12:31] <epimeth> jeroen__: and meanwhile execute java --version
[12:31] <xavito> Jucato, have to go... Bye
[12:32] <Jucato> xavito: ah..
[12:32] <Jucato> by
[12:32] <epimeth> Jucato: it's okay, you still get karma points for trying to help...
[12:32] <epimeth> :-)
[12:32] <Jucato> +e
[12:32] <flaccid> +f
[12:32] <Jucato> well, I sort of have an idea of what to do, but I don't know how reliable it is anyway
[12:32] <flaccid> (for flaccid)
[12:33] <jeroen__> epimeth:  unrecognized option
[12:33] <epimeth> whups
[12:33] <epimeth> java -version
[12:33] <Jucato> hm... you had him install sun-java5?
[12:33] <epimeth> yup
[12:33] <Jucato> (must be on Dapper, then)
[12:33] <epimeth> yup :-0
[12:33] <jeroen__> epimeth:
[12:33] <jeroen__> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[12:33] <jeroen__> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[12:33] <epimeth> :-)
[12:34] <epimeth> perfect
[12:34] <Jucato> hm...
[12:34] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-plugin dapper-backports
[12:34] <ubotu> sun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:34] <Jucato> :P
[12:34] <epimeth> ACK?!?
[12:34] <jeroen__> so epimeth is it ok now?
[12:35] <epimeth> jeroen__: should be :-)
[12:35] <Jucato> :D
[12:35] <jeroen__> ok i will try
[12:35] <epimeth> jeroen__: if not we'll install java6
[12:35] <epimeth> lol
[12:35] <jeroen__> thank u epimeth till so far
[12:35] <Jucato> heheh
[12:36] <Jucato> too bad my legs aren't under the table :P
[12:36] <epimeth> d'oh
[12:36] <flaccid> haha
[12:36] <epimeth> http://sun.java.com
[12:36] <epimeth> click it!
[12:36] <epimeth> you know you waaaant to
[12:36] <epimeth> do it!
[12:36] <Jucato> I meant programming :)
[12:36] <Jucato> :P
[12:37] <Jucato> though I'm barely 1/4 through with my C++ book... so that "one day" might actually be "end of the year"
[12:37] <Jucato> (if not "end of the world")
[12:39] <epimeth> meh... syntactically its similar enough that you won't have a problem after C++
[12:40] <Jucato> it's the "after C++" that's the problem :)
[12:40] <Jucato> oh well
[12:40] <flaccid> i have no idea what to eat for dinner
[12:41] <dromer> hmmm, I had this with X-forwarding this afternoon, but now that I'm home I'm still not able to open firefox, I get a Xlib: connection refused by server
[12:41] <Jucato> bon apetit!
[12:42] <epimeth> hay!
[12:42] <epimeth> thats just not nice
[12:42] <flaccid> hes too tough
[12:42] <epimeth> thats cuz I eat a lot of meat
[12:42] <epimeth> nya nya
[12:42] <epimeth> what you want is a herbavore
[12:42] <epimeth> those taste muuuch better
[12:43] <flaccid> thats true
[12:43] <flaccid> just like coal!
[12:43] <epimeth> anybody here a vegan?
[12:43] <epimeth> yes
[12:43] <CVirus> anybody here a Kubuntu user ?
[12:43] <epimeth> just like coal
[12:43] <CVirus> epimeth: get on topic please
[12:43] <dromer> hmm, I also get the error when trying to open Amarok :S
[12:43] <jjj__> most of here are kubuntu user...
[12:44] <dromer> can someone guide me in finding out the ploblem?
[12:44] <flaccid> !ask
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:44] <CVirus> flaccid: he stated his problem already
[12:44] <flaccid> sorry what was it specifically
[12:45] <adriana10> si lo tengo en el escritorio lo pongo /home/adriana10/Desktop/dpkg -i amsn_0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:45] <flaccid> can i ask what engo means in spanish ?
[12:45] <flaccid> tengo
[12:46] <Jucato> "have" (methinks)
[12:46] <flaccid> ok
[12:47] <adriana10> perdon era para el de espaol
[12:47] <Jucato> !es | adriana10
[12:47] <ubotu> adriana10: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:53] <Nino_1>  
[12:54] <Ginja_Ninja> hello, can someone point me in the direction of the flash install guide for 64bit platform , i cant find it for some reason. Thanks
[12:58] <flaccid> Ginja_Ninja: ask adobe
[12:58] <Ginja_Ninja> lol
[01:01] <drkns> hello fellas
[01:01] <drkns> I need help with partitioning
[01:01] <drkns> i would like to install kubuntu on my laptop
[01:01] <drkns> i have two IDE hdds 60gb 7200rpm each
[01:02] <drkns> how should i partition so that i can use both right from the start
[01:03] <drkns> i would like to use one to install kubuntu on and have home folder and i would like to set the secon one as home-2 and use it as a file storage
[01:03] <drkns> any help will be appreciated
[01:05] <drkns> how big a patiti
[01:05] <drkns> on should root has
[01:05] <drkns> ?
[01:05] <zirxx> all: hi
[01:05] <drkns> noone?
[01:06] <dromer> when using beryl, how can I make certain pragrams appear on specific viewports when starting up?
[01:06] <drkns> hi
[01:06] <drkns> people are sleepin here
[01:06] <drkns> c yall laters
[01:07] <dromer> drkns: what do you mean with home-2 ?
[01:07] <flaccid> bbl
[01:08] <rofl> hi
[01:08] <rofl> i need help
[01:08] <rofl> i cant connect to internet on my kubuntu 7.04
[01:08] <dromer> what kind of cennoction do you have rofl ?
[01:08] <dromer> connection*
[01:08] <rofl> how to troubleshoot?
[01:09] <dromer> do you use a proxy for internet?
[01:09] <dromer> or do you use dhcp?
[01:09] <rofl> i connect to a broadband
[01:09] <rofl> modem-router
[01:09] <rofl> yeah i use proxy
[01:09] <dromer> I only have experience with the latter so I can't help you that well, maybe if you state yoru situation more specific ..
[01:09] <dromer> do you know the proxy-settings you should use?
[01:10] <rofl> hmm im not sure
[01:10] <dromer> what are you on right now?
[01:10] <rofl> btw in xp.. i set the dns and alternate dns
[01:11] <tdn> Are there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?
[01:11] <rofl> i set the same thing to kubuntu
[01:11] <rofl> but it didnt work
[01:17] <xushi> silly question, but, any tutorials on how to resize my resolution ? it gives me only a max of 1024x760, and it's a 19'' widescreen which supports WAY more than that
[01:18] <MinceR> bye
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !resolution | xushi
[01:18] <ubotu> xushi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:19] <xushi> ta
[01:20] <raffytaffy_> xushi-> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  -> scroll down to monitors and plug in your values / restart xserver
[01:20] <xushi> time to find out my values
[01:20] <raffytaffy_> in this format xushi -> "1280x800" etc etc
[01:26] <Filthpig> does anyone know anything about KVM in here?
[01:26] <xushi> thanks raffytaffy_
[01:26] <Filthpig> I get no answer over at #kvm :S
[01:28] <michal_> part
[01:31] <ciuda> zdf
[01:31] <ciuda> mcghkm
[01:36] <savetheWorld> Does anyone know where iptables-save info needs to go for resumption after reboot?
[01:38] <tdn> Are there any problems upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.04 when using LUKS for enrypted rootfs?
[01:59] <martalli> How can I find my pilot?  I have kpilot installed and the treo connected to the computer, but there is no /dev/pilot
[01:59] <martalli> Also, /dev/bus/usb/001 etc does not work either
[02:02] <martalli> Hello, I can't find my pilot device...After connecting it, I have no /dev/pilot.  /dev/bus/usb/001 and so on are not workin
[02:03] <jussi01> martalli: its pretty dead in here as you can see, if you need it in a hurry, try #ubuntu they may be able to help
[02:08] <markc> can anyone suggest a JACK based mp3 player ?
[02:11] <ejupin> How do I get a link in Thunderbird to open in Firefox? I thought I had everything set...
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> ejupin: copy it and then just open firefox and click your middle button on the mouse
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> ejupin: or just setup thunderbird to default to firefox
[02:16] <ejupin> Linux_Galore: your second option is what I am looking to do.. I thought I already had it defaulted that way.
[02:16] <Jucato> ejupin: I think Thunderbird has its own settings for which browser to use
[02:17] <Jucato> ejupin: you can also use this command to set the default browser for *all* graphical apps, regardless of KDE, GNOME, or GTK app: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[02:17] <ejupin> Jucato: thanks
[02:17] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: have ti remember that one
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> to*
[02:19] <ejupin> Jucato: good tip thanks, I just did it.
[02:19] <Jucato> :)
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> better not praise Jucato too much his head barely fits in the channel as it is
[02:30] <flaccid> haha
[02:34] <|ericsson|> rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8] 
[02:35] <|ericsson|> Anyone had that problem before?
[02:38] <|ericsson|> *sniff* I need help with a server backup due to compromised system, anyone care to venture a guess and help me?
[02:40] <flaccid> get a sysadmin/network engineer?
[02:40] <|ericsson|> flaccid: that would be me :)
[02:40] <flaccid> so what is the problem?
[02:41] <|ericsson|> flaccid: yesterday evening the backup server was compromised, now I'm re-configured a new server and I need to transfer data from old.backup.server, to new.backup.server
[02:41] <flaccid> define data
[02:42] <|ericsson|> flaccid: I can transfer through SSH with rsync from new.server to old.server, but not the other way...
[02:42] <Linux_Galore> jermain_: I just use a big ased tarball and a script to create a new image
[02:42] <|ericsson|> flaccid: mostly mysqldumps, some flatfiles and tons of images
[02:43] <flaccid> sounds like a mess. can't help sorry.
[02:43] <Linux_Galore> lol, sounds like work
[02:43] <|ericsson|> Linux_Galore: You got that right ;)
[02:44] <|ericsson|> Problem is that I get the: rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(892) [sender=2.6.8]  every time I try to transfer from old.server, to new.server...but other way is no problem
[02:44] <flaccid> we don't generally rescue hacked systems here for free
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> |ericsson|: this is why I have a simple backup setup for my servers
[02:44] <flaccid> oh sorry im not good at rsync
[02:44] <|ericsson|> flaccid: don't need help to rescue it, just need the backup to work ;)
[02:45] <|ericsson|> Linux_Galore: I would prefer a simply way to do it, but it needs to go through SSH
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> |ericsson|: if its a proper backup you just unpack the dam thing
[02:46] <|ericsson|> Linux_Galore: It is a proper backup, our beloved tar. But I need to get it to the new machine through SSH again :)
[02:46] <Linux_Galore> |ericsson|: boot the system up of a cd turn the ssh-server on and then mount up the partition, copy the tarballs over and unpack them
[02:47] <flaccid> hire a engineer.
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> |ericsson|: do you have physical access to the machine ?
[02:47] <|ericsson|> flaccid: I doubt the need for an engineer would be needed, the fact is that this is a bug on macos, don't know if it's on (k)ubuntu though..
[02:47] <xushi> kubuntu keeps freezing... is there anyway to find out what the cause is? i thought it was my nvidia drivers, but i removed them and it still happens
[02:48] <Linux_Galore> xushi: at what point does it freez
[02:48] <|ericsson|> Linux_Galore: Yes
[02:48] <flaccid> um goto ##mac . not #kubuntu
[02:48] <Bluetooth> hi all
[02:48] <Bluetooth> have problem with Kaffeine
[02:48] <xushi> Linux_Galore: randomly.. this time when i started installing Zend. last time when i was running Kate. The time before when i was doing nothing
[02:48] <Bluetooth> shows mess
[02:48] <Bluetooth> http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2240/snapshot4oq2.png
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> |ericsson|: if you have phyical access then i cant see what the issue is, just use one of the many recovery admin cd's running around boot the machine up and the rest is easy
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: looks like a codec problem
[02:50] <Bluetooth> any idea how to fix?
[02:50] <|ericsson|> flaccid: Since I have not established if this is a persistent bug in (k)ubuntu, there would hardly be any point for me to sit in a mac forum and waste time, would it? I am sure that someone is able to perform proper rsync backups through SSH without errors on *nix
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: install the correct codec
[02:50] <Bluetooth> but it's an MPEG file
[02:50] <|ericsson|> Linux_Galore: Problem is that I need this up and running so that we can perform our system-wide backups again..
[02:50] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: install xine-extracodecs
[02:50] <flaccid> you have nothing to tie to kubuntu............
[02:51] <flaccid> no specific error, nothing
[02:52] <xushi> I need to generate 100% cpu usage to see if it overheats or not.. is there an easy way ?
[02:52] <Bluetooth> apt-get could find such package
[02:52] <flaccid> mefisto not sure
[02:52] <insmod> any fix for shuting down an acer laptop? works sometimes and not others
[02:52] <Bluetooth> which depo is this package in?
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: .mov doesn't necessarily mean its mpeg
[02:52] <Bluetooth> i c
[02:53] <Bluetooth> so where do I get that xine-extracodecs
[02:53] <llutz> hi
[02:53] <Toomas> sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: look in adept it should be there if you have enabled universe
[02:53] <Bluetooth> ok
[02:54] <xushi> it just froze again, while i'm using adept manager
[02:54] <Toomas> I would recommend adding plf repository too
[02:54] <Toomas> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[02:54] <Toomas> and install w32codecs
[02:54] <flaccid> bbl
[02:54] <xushi> this is very serious.. i cannot deploy this in my company if it freezes like that.. is there anyway to find out why or what's causing it ?
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> !codecs
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:55] <emonkey-p> Toomas: why not medibuntu?
[02:55] <emonkey-p> Toomas: sorry my fault
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> xushi: eer your deploying Linux in a enterprise company and you dont know how to read a log ??
[02:56] <Mena> Is there a secure Ftp app for linux
[02:56] <xushi> I'm deploying linux on my desktop, of which, when sucesfull, will extend throughout the company.
[02:56] <xushi> I know how to read a log.. but which ? i mean it freezes on me
[02:56] <Bluetooth> I have universe enabled but could fine xine-extracodecs in list
[02:56] <Bluetooth> strange
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> xushi: well read the main log first
[02:56] <Jucato> Bluetooth: you need multiverse for that
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> xushi: so it only crashes with adept ?
[02:56] <xushi> Linux_Galore: if i reboot, wont it be overwritten, or wont i lose the informatio i need ?
[02:56] <Jucato> Bluetooth: are you Edgy or Feisty?
[02:56] <xushi> Linux_Galore: no, randomly
[02:56] <Bluetooth> fiesty
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> xushi: no
[02:57] <Jucato> Bluetooth: ah then you don't need to enable any repositories. libxine-extracodecs
[02:57] <xushi> freezes randomly. sometimes when i'm doing nothing
[02:57] <Jucato> Bluetooth: or install libxine1-ffmpeg (same thing)
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> xushi: yeah, read the logs under /var/logs   ie syslog is a good start
[02:59] <Bluetooth> guys, I have libxine-extracodecs
[02:59] <Bluetooth> installed
[02:59] <Bluetooth> but it shows mess anyway
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> xushi: also login without the X server running and see if it freezes
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> xushi: after a while
[02:59] <Mena> !ftp
[02:59] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> xushi: if not then its something to do with the desktop enviroment
[02:59] <Mena> !FTPd
[02:59] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:59] <xushi> will check them out now
[02:59] <bonaldo2000> I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?
[02:59] <Jucato> that was some lag on my end :(
[02:59] <Mena> what is the best app her
[02:59] <Mena> here*
[02:59] <Bluetooth> libxine1-ffmpeg is installed as well
[02:59] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: could be a bad file, I get that every now and again or a locked file that needs a key
[02:59] <Mena>  !KcmPureftpd
[03:00] <Bluetooth> no it's a normal file
[03:00] <Bluetooth> showed fine before upgrade
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcmpureftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <|ericsson|> If I remove /.ssh/known_hosts, would it create new fingerprints for me then?
[03:00] <xushi> Linux_Galore: for this situation, would i go for syslog, or syslog.0 ?
[03:00] <nana> hi
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> Bluetooth: I recompile ffmpeg because Ubuntu has a few things disabled
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> xushi: syslog will do
[03:01] <phoxy> join #fortran
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> xushi: ie  head -20 /var/log/syslog
[03:02] <bonaldo2000> actually it is able to open konsole on the tv-desktop..if I have that one as the active deskto...any help..please?
[03:02] <Bluetooth> I c
[03:02] <xushi> Linux_Galore: sanitize start ... sanitize end.. etc.. This sounds bad, right ? :)
[03:02] <xushi> let me paste
[03:03] <|ericsson|> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> xushi: try tail /var/log/syslog  sorry
[03:04] <xushi> http://pastebin.ca/467290
[03:05] <Mena> Where to validate jave on opera
[03:05] <Mena> java*
[03:06] <andre> hi...
[03:07] <xushi> found anything uesful? it doesn't really make sense to me
[03:07] <andre> i have to install the codec for amarok in ubuntu...can someone help me?..
[03:07] <Jucato> andre: install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:07] <bonaldo2000> any help??
[03:07] <Bluetooth> by the way is it possible to have compiz or beryl on kubuntu?
[03:08] <Jucato> Bluetooth:
[03:08] <Jucato> yes
[03:08] <phoxy> can anyon ehelp with a fortran problem?
[03:08] <ubunturos> Bluetooth: for versions > 6.10 I guess
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> !codecs
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <Bluetooth> what about fiesty?
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> andre: ^
[03:08] <Jucato> Bluetooth: see the topics in #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <Jucato> Bluetooth: Edgy or Feisty will do
[03:09] <Bluetooth> ok
[03:11] <Bluetooth> Jucato does compiz require metacity?
[03:11] <Jucato> no
[03:12] <Jucato> Bluetooth: compiz is a window manager itself
[03:12] <Jucato> so it will replace metacity or kwin. beryl is also a window manager
[03:12] <Bluetooth> shit I have mess on screen when tried to use compiz
[03:13] <|ericsson|> If anyone is interested, here is my backup problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18789/
[03:14] <roel_> hello how can i install java runtime on Kubuntu. Which repositories are needed to find packagessun-java6-jre and alike?
[03:15] <Jucato> roel_: they are in multiverse. if you are on feisty, multiverse is already enabled
[03:15] <roel_> yes but aptitude search can't find them
[03:15] <roel_> i'm using feisty
[03:15] <Jucato> sun-java6-bin or sun-java6-jre ?
[03:15] <roel_> sun-java6-jre
[03:16] <Jucato> hm... strange. well, just double check your sources.list to see if you have multiverse enabled
[03:16] <phoxy> is there a difference between using aptitude and apt-get?
[03:16] <malik__> how do i add "torrentspy" website to the ktorrents serach engines list?........instructions on ktorrents manual are not working.....any i dea?
[03:16] <Jucato> not a big difference... but one has some features the other doesn't
[03:17] <roel_> Jucato: isn't this the lines for multiverse?
[03:17] <roel_> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:17] <roel_> deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:17] <phoxy> in most of the code snippets they say apt-get, rather than aptitude
[03:17] <Jucato> roel_: no. those are all for feisty-backports
[03:17] <Jucato> phoxy: apt-get is the most common and most famous
[03:17] <phoxy> I thought that aptitude was a superset of apt-get
[03:17] <roel_> can you give met the multiverse lines?
[03:17] <Jucato> phoxy: might want to read on this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[03:17] <phoxy> and more recent
[03:18] <Jucato> roel_: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[03:18] <roel_> k thnx
[03:18] <Jucato> if you have a fresh install of feisty, it should already be enabled...
[03:18] <|ericsson|> and now I get: rsync: mkstemp "/home/administrator/.server_backup.tgz.J9wnSF" failed: Permission denied (13)
[03:18] <roel_> Jucato: i have an update edgy to feisty
[03:18] <roel_> maybe something went wrong
[03:18] <Jucato> aah... that would probably explain it
[03:19] <Jucato> roel_: you can use Adept Manager to easily add/enable the multiverse repo, or do it the old fashioned way
[03:19] <roel_> k i'm gonna try to install jre
[03:19] <roel_> I did it the old fasion way :p
[03:21] <boubbin> how to move kooldock to a different location, the default location just sucks.
[03:21] <BlackBsd> if i have alot of OS's installed on my pc, can i still use the desktop installer disk to install kubuntu on a spare partition.
[03:21] <Lynoure> Yes, the number of OSes does not matter
[03:22] <BlackBsd> or would i need the alternate cd?
[03:22] <BlackBsd> does it give me the optionto choose what partiton to use as /, /boot/ /usr?
[03:22] <Jucato> yes
[03:22] <Mena> !
[03:22] <Mena> !FTP
[03:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:23] <BlackBsd> can i use the alternate cd to install from an already running linux system?
[03:24] <roel_> you will have to boot from the cd i think BlackBsd
[03:24] <BlackBsd> thank you.
[03:24] <reffus> !SSH
[03:24] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:25] <reffus> !SSHD
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <reffus> !openssh
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <BlackBsd> sshd is the ssh server.
[03:25] <BlackBsd> it allows for secure remote login to another pc
[03:25] <nana> how can i setup a web server on kubuntu
[03:25] <reffus> webmin is a good helper nana
[03:25] <nana> ok
[03:26] <reffus> look up the LAMP howto on ubuntu forums
[03:26] <roel_> thnx Jucato. Everything works now. Thnx!!
[03:26] <nana> thanx
[03:26] <BlackBsd> nana there is also a gui software package manager, synapitc (i think)
[03:27] <Jucato> roel_: kool. you're welcome
[03:27] <nana> whare can i find it/
[03:27] <Jucato> reffus: unfortunately, webmin is no longer supported
[03:27] <Jucato> !webmin
[03:27] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:27] <nana> ok
[03:27] <BlackBsd> apache.
[03:27] <BlackBsd> apache2
[03:28] <reffus> isnt it?
[03:28] <reffus> :O
[03:28] <reffus> I really liked that program :(
[03:28] <Jucato> well, at least not "officially" on Debian and Ubuntu
[03:28] <reffus> Jucato: Is there another one like it?
[03:28] <nana> h  i have  install apache
[03:29] <reffus> :<
[03:29] <roel_> exit
[03:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:30] <reffus> hi
[03:30] <nana> hi
[03:30] <reffus> Jucato: Do you know why it isn't supported any longer?
[03:31] <Jucato> reffus: nope...
[03:31] <nana> how can i use synapitc
[03:31] <reffus> Jucato: ok, thanks anyway :)
[03:32] <phoxy> Is there an advantage to Synaptic over Adept, or the other way around?  I know that one is for Gnome and the other for Kubuntu
[03:32] <phoxy> KDE
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is really unstable in this latest version on feisty . I really don't want to switch because it has been so reliable in the past but there doesn't seem to be a fix for it yet on the forums. Anyone hear anything about fixing this prob
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:34] <nana> how can i install synapitc on kubuntu?
[03:34] <nana> how can i install synapitc on kubuntu?
[03:34] <kalorin`> use synaptic
[03:34] <kalorin`> or apt-get
[03:35] <Jucato> nana: from either Add/Remove Programs or Adept
[03:35] <kalorin`> or adept
[03:35] <Jucato> kalorin`: how can he install synaptic using synaptic? ;)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> or aptitude :)
[03:35] <kalorin`> or dpkg -i if you go get the .debs
[03:36] <thomas_> how do i use beryl?:P
[03:37] <BlackBsd> besides kubuntu having kde, does it have other packages than ubuntu?
[03:37] <BlackBsd> becaue the regular iso images for ubuntu is larger then kubuntu
[03:38] <BluesKaj> Jucato: I have ntfs-3g installed ..I can copy from the windows partition while on linux but not from kubuntu to windows. I have the shares & permissions turned on  ... any suggestions ?
[03:39] <reffus> chmod 777 on the mountfolder?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> reffus: ?
[03:41] <Gamic> BluesKaj: Make sure that its using ntfs-3g.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> Gamic: how is that confirmed
[03:44] <Gamic> Blueskaj: Have a look at this. http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[03:45] <nana> how i install a web server on kubuntu?
[03:46] <Gamic> nana: sudo apt-get install apache2
[03:47] <nana> i have install apache2
[03:47] <Gamic> Then you have a web server installed, open a web broweser and enter "http://localhost/" into it
[03:47] <Gamic> and you should see... something
[03:47] <reffus> The "its working sign"
[03:48] <nana> yes
[03:48] <reffus> Put up whatever you'd like in /var/www
[03:49] <nana> how can i d dat    reffus
[03:49] <weswh-> how can I make sure I have the latest nvidia driver? I am trying to setup 'twinview' - is there a GUI for it, or is it all command line tools?
[03:49] <weswh-> I tried running nvidia-configx, not found...
[03:49] <reffus> nana: in the terminal: sudo cp afile /var/www/
[03:50] <nana> ok 1min
[03:50] <reffus> then you'll have copied that file in your "webserver folder" or how to put it..
[03:50] <nana> yes
[03:51] <|StOnE|> i need to activate beryl in kubuntu?
[03:51] <nana> how to copy a file into my web server?
[03:51] <[GuS] > Hello!
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> |StOnE|: that wasn't even a question.
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> nana: cp whatever /var/www
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> as he said
[03:52] <|StOnE|> i dont know  how
[03:52] <Leon_> !grub
[03:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:54] <nana> thanx
[03:54] <nana> it work
[03:56] <Leon_> anyone know how to change what deafultly boots when your pc loads?
[03:58] <kgx> anyone around? how can i capture something to a file and at the same time let it display on the screen?
[03:58] <kgx> say something like: ./myscript > test.log
[03:58] <kgx> but i want it to output to screen as well
[03:59] <freak10336> how is everyone
[04:02] <Artstew> can someone tell me how to install kde?
[04:03] <Lynoure> Artstew: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop   is enough, I think
[04:03] <Gamic> Aye, that should be everything that's needed
[04:03] <Artstew> oh is that all?
[04:03] <reffus> i think so too
[04:03] <Gamic> kubuntu-desktop will install everything to make ubunutu kubuntu
[04:06] <jesusiyo> #kubuntu-es
[04:08] <BluesKaj> gents , just for your info , this little tool :  http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/  ..does the trick for solving the permission prob of writing to the ntfs partition in feisty
[04:09] <jesusiyo> how open source.list
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nope it's a debpkg
[04:09] <ForgeAus> with sudo
[04:09] <ForgeAus> or kdesu
[04:09] <ForgeAus> (depending on if its a gui app or not
[04:09] <jesusiyo> tell me the comand please
[04:09] <ForgeAus> ie kdesu kate /var/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <ForgeAus> or sudo nano /var/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <lynxo> !wireless
[04:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:10] <ForgeAus> assuming I got the path/filename right
[04:10] <|StOnE|> !beryl
[04:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:10] <jesusiyo> command not found
[04:10] <BluesKaj> or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:11] <JohnFlux> !debdiff
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debdiff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <ForgeAus> ahh yes... bluesKaj is more likely right
[04:11] <jesusiyo> thank you very much
[04:11] <reffus> I ran "killall sshd" howto start it again?
[04:11] <ForgeAus> its var/cache and etc/apt... very confusing sometimes...
[04:11] <LjL> reffus: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[04:11] <LjL> (or openssh-server, not sure)
[04:12] <lynxo> does anyone know how to change my deafult Boot in Grub?
[04:12] <LjL> next time kill it using sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop if at all possible ;)
[04:12] <ForgeAus> personally I prefer to use krusader I don't have that kind of trouble
[04:12] <LjL> lynxo: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:13] <reffus> LjL: ty :)
[04:14] <lynxo> LjL: where do i do that terminal?
[04:14] <LjL> lynxo: it's a text file, you edit it with a text editor. you need to be root, however, so either Alt+F2 and type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst", or if you prefer terminal, "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:15] <surgy> hello
[04:15] <lynxo> the altf2 command failed.
[04:16] <jesusiyo> how install wine
[04:16] <Toomas> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:16] <reffus> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:16] <reffus> :)
[04:16] <Toomas> heh :)
[04:17] <chuen> Hi. Where's the best place tp research a DVD drive that'll be compatible with Edgy?
[04:17] <ForgeAus> most dvd drives should be compatible with kubuntu
[04:17] <surgy> i changed my xbox gamepad to usb, and pluged it in, i can get everything working except the pov/hats (joysticks) wont calibrate right, i then bouht a saitek recoil, and the pov/hats will not calibrate corectly on it either. any sugestions tips or referenced articles whould be apreciated
[04:17] <ForgeAus> you standard DVD burner generally works
[04:17] <surgy> .
[04:17] <chuen> ForgeAus: OK, thanks.
[04:17] <lynxo> ljl it errored when i trye3d to open it
[04:18] <jesusiyo> is it a error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18804/
[04:18] <LjL> lynxo: my bad, i sometimes forget this is #kubuntu and not #ubuntu, i gave you a GNOME command
[04:18] <LjL> lynxo: "kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[04:19] <lynxo>  ljl what do i edit in there?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> the default option
[04:19] <ForgeAus> read through the text in it carefully
[04:19] <Nathan> hey i'm back how do i turn beryl off now?
[04:19] <LjL> lynxo, it's commented... anyway, it's the first line, and surprisingly it's called "default":
[04:19] <ForgeAus> if it is the default menu.lst it explains how
[04:20] <jesusiyo> help me please
[04:20] <jesusiyo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18804/
[04:20] <jesusiyo> is it a correct install?
[04:21] <ForgeAus> I don't read whatever language that is
[04:21] <jesusiyo> a moment please
[04:22] <lynxo> LjL: are u sure its "kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" cuz nothing opened.
[04:22] <LjL> lynxo: pretty sure yep
[04:22] <surgy> i changed my xbox gamepad to usb, and pluged it in, i can get everything working except the pov/hats (joysticks) wont calibrate right, i then bouht a saitek recoil, and the pov/hats will not calibrate corectly on it either. any sugestions tips or referenced articles whould be apreciated
[04:22] <LjL> lynxo: i'd avoid the quotation marks if i were you though
[04:22] <jesusiyo> in your language jeje http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18806/
[04:23] <LjL> jesusiyo: do you have Universe enabled?
[04:23] <lynxo> i did it says it can't find comand kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:23] <lynxo> LjL: i did it says it can't find comand kdesu kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:23] <LjL> lynxo: that must be because you put it in quotation marks. see above.
[04:23] <jesusiyo> what can i do?
[04:23] <LjL> jesusiyo: enable it?
[04:23] <lynxo> LjL: i did it says it can't find comand kedit /boot/grub/menu.lst i looked
[04:24] <jesusiyo> i think that yes
[04:24] <lynxo> it needed to be kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:24] <LjL> lynxo: uh yes, kate, kedit isn't installed by default indeed...
[04:24] <jesusiyo> what can i do?
[04:25] <LjL> i think i'm not in a good day
[04:25] <LjL> jesusiyo: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <jesusiyo> a moment
[04:25] <bonaldo2000> I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?
[04:26] <jesusiyo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18807/
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> anyone else having problems with dual core processors waking up after suspend to ram?
[04:27] <LjL> !automatix | jesus
[04:27] <LjL> !automatix | jesusiyo
[04:27] <ubotu> jesus: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:27] <ubotu> jesusiyo: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:27] <LjL> eek, didn't it have the "please see above" feature now?
[04:27] <jesusiyo> but what can i do?
[04:28] <surgy> can anyone help me please?
[04:28] <LjL> jesusiyo: 1) you're on Feisty, but you are using the WINE repository for Dapper. not a good idea   2) You're using Automatix. not a good idea.  3) you have feisty-updates enabled for main and restricted but not universe. not a good idea
[04:28] <LjL> jesusiyo: remove Automatix, for a start
[04:29] <jesusiyo> should i unistall automatix?
[04:29] <lynxo> wish me luck lol
[04:29] <LjL> jesusiyo: yes
[04:29] <jesusiyo> and  then what?
[04:29] <ForgeAus> fix your sources.list
[04:29] <LjL> which i'll do for you
[04:30] <ForgeAus> if your in feisty you can fix that in adept (the kubuntu package manager) via the gui simply check and uncheck the boxes you need in manage repositories in the menu...
[04:30] <ForgeAus> or let LjL send you a good one.. or something
[04:30] <jesusiyo> i want play pes6 in kubuntu and play photoshop and other progams
[04:31] <ForgeAus> pes6?
[04:31] <LjL> yikes
[04:31] <hdxx> pro evolituon soccer :P
[04:31] <ForgeAus> photoshop you don't Play as such but it does install from wine as far as I'm aware...
[04:31] <LjL> seveas, you removed all non-ubuntu repositories from som?
[04:32] <jesusiyo> i unistall automatix and will remove the programs installed with automatix?
[04:32] <ForgeAus> jesusiyo I doubt it
[04:33] <bobleny> Hey, what keys do I need to press to get the terminal from the login screen?
[04:33] <jesusiyo> puf it is a big problem jeje
[04:33] <ForgeAus> however they may not be installed correctly via automatix2... its best to install the ones from ubuntu official repositories if you can
[04:34] <LjL> jesusiyo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18808/  use this as your new sources.list
[04:34] <ForgeAus> bobleny, you probably want control + alt +1
[04:34] <bobleny> It was something + something F2?
[04:34] <ForgeAus> (control + alt + F7 should get you back if not try the other numbers...
[04:34] <ForgeAus> yeah sorry I meant F1
[04:34] <bobleny> Ok, thank you!
[04:35] <jesusiyo> i should clean the other sources.list and install this?
[04:35] <LjL> jesusiyo: yes
[04:35] <jesusiyo> ok thank you
[04:36] <LjL> jesusiyo: then, after doing that, type  sudo apt-get update , then install wine
[04:36] <LjL> at least, hope it installs.
[04:36] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get knetworkmanager to stop going off of the manual configuration and show me the list of SSIDs again?
[04:36] <jesusiyo> i will comment my results jeje thank you
[04:37] <icecruncher> I istalled vmware player, restarted it and now it's asking for a virtual machine, what to do?
[04:38] <icecruncher> restarted the comp I mean
[04:39] <jesusiyo> LjL i can't do it because i don't know how unistall automatix 2
[04:39] <manchicken> jesusiyo: How'd you install it?
[04:39] <LjL> jesusiyo: "dpkg --get-selections | grep automatix", and uninstall all the packages listed
[04:39] <jesusiyo> i paste you sources.list and remove my list
[04:40] <markc> anyone here tried twinkle ?
[04:41] <jesusiyo> it is the command for unistall automatix?
[04:42] <Etokura> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[04:43] <jesusiyo> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[04:43] <jesusiyo> ok
[04:44] <bonaldo2000> I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?
[04:44] <BlackBsd> i have a samba share set up on my linux box, but when ppl put files into my directory, the owner and group is "nobody"  is it possible to override this to be something like "users"
[04:44] <mek_> I never realy understood the usage of automatix, ... it is a deb/apt based linux, so I prefer to use deb packages, ...
[04:45] <mek_> also linuxmce looks horrible to me
[04:47] <BluesKaj> BlackBsd: sudo chmod u+s `which smbmnt` , followed by sudo chmod u+s `which smbumount`... but this makes the syatem open to all on the network
[04:47] <jesusiyo> a good manual for beryl?
[04:48] <BlackBsd> BlueKaj, the folder is currently open to all the network
[04:49] <feni23> i have a problem ... i am not able to install a prog, because of a missing lib, called libmp3lame. well. then i wanted to install this lib with aptitude (apt-cache search, then: aptitude install libmp3lame ...). But then aptitude said, that there is no lib called libmp3lame, which is impossible, because it's written in the readme of the prog i want to install .... help pls?!?!
[04:52] <markc> feni23: apt-get install liblame0
[04:52] <feni23> well .. actually adept manager says liblame0 is installed
[04:52] <markc> feni23: you may have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[04:53] <sparrw> looking for help setting up a Xentera GT 4 video card in ubuntu
[04:53] <feni23> in adept?
[04:53] <feni23> ahhh i got it!!!!1
[04:54] <markc> feni23: what was it ?
[04:54] <feni23> i just installed liblame-dev ...! hahaha
[04:54] <markc> :-)
[04:54] <feni23> it's working ... grear
[04:54] <feni23> great
[04:54] <markc> anyone here want to try twinkle ?
[04:54] <Etokura> Twinkle?
[04:55] <feni23> twinkle?
[04:55] <malik__> any one here who knows how to work with krita?
[04:55] <markc> SIP phone
[04:55] <nana> yes
[04:55] <markc> I'd be interested to try a direct chat to see if twinkle works over the net
[04:55] <feni23> anyone here who wants to eat something?!
[04:56] <markc> apt-get install twinkle ... anyone ?
[04:56] <Etokura> I like modifying songs to change the female singer's voice to a more masculent sonding one
[04:56] <nana> what is twinkle
[04:56] <feni23> SIP phone ... ?
[04:56] <markc> twinkle is a  SIP VoIP phone
[04:56] <markc> softphone
[04:56] <markc> like skype, but not skype
[04:56] <feni23> well, i use skype
[04:57] <markc> there is a new version of skype coming out soon but I'd rather not use it at all
[04:57] <nana> i am install it
[04:57] <nana> how can i use it?
[04:57] <feni23> ANYONE HERE, WHO WANTS TO USE SKYPE WITH ME?
[04:57] <dominic_> hi
[04:57] <nana> yes
[04:58] <feni23> nana whats ure sypename?
[04:58] <nana> nanaii21
[04:58] <markc> nana: when you install and the config wizard comes up just give it a username and any domainname but ignore using a server, just select direct IP to IP calls
[04:59] <nana> ok
[04:59] <markc> ahh, my favourite song is on di.fm... cool
[04:59] <ubuntu> Hi, I am tring to install kubuntu and when it says preparing for disk space, there is nothing to do?
[05:00] <markc> then try calling -> sip:markc@60.240.81.28
[05:00] <feni23> nana: there is no skype contact called nanaii21 !
[05:00] <dominic_> whats you specs
[05:00] <dominic_> btw i love Kubuntu....
[05:01] <dominic_> just installed today.... im very happy new linux guy...
[05:01] <hdxx> nice to head that
[05:01] <nana> 1 min ok
[05:01] <dominic_> microsft is bye bye for me
[05:01] <ubuntu> I want to install kubuntu but I can't because for some reason the installation will not let me continue?
[05:01] <dominic_> do you have space in your harddrive?
[05:02] <Etokura> Did you partition your hard drive correctly?
[05:02] <ivan> ciao a tutti
[05:02] <ubuntu> I have 80GB of space
[05:02] <ubuntu> How do I parition my hard drive
[05:02] <ivan> come faccio ad accedere al canale ubuntu?
[05:02] <ubuntu> Actually I figured out the problem, for some reason the page takes 2 minutes to load
[05:03] <hdxx> ext3 / 10gb .. linux swap 1gb .. ext3 /home rest of GB
[05:04] <feni23> i don't find u
[05:04] <feni23> nana: search feni23
[05:05] <dominic_> see for me to get my kubuntu to install is... i use magic partition to create unallocated space in my hard drive... reason is that i use all my harddrive for windows, used magic partition.... split the hard drive to 50 gig 50 gig unallocated, no partition what so ever, not even logical and extended partition... start up kubuntu and in the installation page. just choose Guide Partition: use free space in harddrive....
[05:06] <dominic_> and that's it
[05:06] <dominic_> its really easy...
[05:06] <ivan> qualcuno mi dice come faccio ad accedere al canale ubuntu?
[05:06] <ivan> #ubuntu
[05:07] <cprgmswr2> This is better
[05:07] <ivan> joined #ubuntu
[05:07] <cprgmswr2> I think the kubuntu install has problems if one of the pages takes 2 minutes to load
[05:07] <cprgmswr2> This would have scared off any new users by now
[05:07] <dominic_> or the disk is bad iso...
[05:08] <cprgmswr2> I check the desk before installation
[05:08] <dominic_> i think its your harddrive, you don't have unallocated free space in your hard drive for the kubuntu to detect....
[05:09] <cprgmswr2> So thats my fault?
[05:09] <dominic_> yea part user and part developer. lmao
[05:09] <cprgmswr2> The installation even says detecting file systems
[05:10] <cprgmswr2> I admit that I can figure stuff out for myself since I can install gentoo... but the point I am tring to make is if a new user tries to install kubuntu over a brand new harddrive, its going to have issues.. as I deleted all partitions before beginning the process of install kubuntu
[05:11] <dominic_> the way i see it, is if you get to kubuntu to load... then the disk is fine, it would have to be your pc or laptop. the hard drive usually
[05:11] <dominic_> now that you mention your a gentoo guru.... there a ipw2200 drive for gentoo right?
[05:11] <dominic_> *driver
[05:12] <cprgmswr2> I would image so... I have never touched those drivers
[05:13] <dominic_> cuz im did install gentoo but im having trouble installing and get my intel pro/wireless 9150 to work... the driver for it is ipw2200 for all linux... and gentoo is kinda hard..
[05:13] <cprgmswr2> Yeah gentoo is kinda hard... I am using a desktop so I havn't had to mess with wireless
[05:13] <dominic_> and btw, im new to linux
[05:14] <cprgmswr2> did you try and google a howto
[05:14] <cprgmswr2> Btw I just checked and I have 1 linux partition
[05:15] <piero> sera
[05:15] <dominic_> yea i did, they mostly say about the drive modifying it with the kernel and i dont know how to do that.... i installed gentoo in my desktop and internet work fine, but im concern about it on my laptop since i dont use wired connection
[05:15] <abelard_> is there a thing like gDesklets for KDE?
[05:15] <dominic_> *driver
[05:16] <strabes> abelard_: supposedly superkaramba is...i'm going to try it now
[05:16] <cprgmswr2> dominici I can walk you through configuring your kernel if thats your issue
[05:16] <dominic_> well what the heck.. im good with kubuntu right now....
[05:16] <cprgmswr2> Thats good
[05:17] <dominic_> well see i dont really know if modifiying the driver to link with kernel.... i just want it to work....
[05:18] <pilar> Good afternoon everyone
[05:18] <dominic_> so don't bother cprgmsw2.... im good.... with kubuntu.. and microsoft will go down the drain. slow painfull death. rofl
[05:18] <dominic_> hey pilar
[05:18] <pilar> I recently installed Kubuntu feisty
[05:18] <dominic_> cool me too pilar
[05:18] <pilar> ;)
[05:19] <pilar> I am a bit newbie and I am having a little problem
[05:19] <dominic_> its my 2 second linux install os, my first was mandrake way back then. now its called mandriva... kinda gurly name. lmao
[05:19] <dominic_> what kind of problem?
[05:20] <pilar> when I try to start a program, it says that I need to stop adept first. But I don't have adept running
[05:20] <dominic_> im new too. so i can help out,,, im learning
[05:20] <feni23> nana: where are you from dude?!?
[05:20] <dominic_> i think, in console type in "dpkg --configure -a
[05:20] <dominic_> dpkg --configure -a
[05:21] <dominic_> it takes that mysterious adept running. rofl
[05:21] <pilar> ?
[05:21] <dominic_> go to start > system > Konsole
[05:21] <cprgmswr2> kubuntu doesn't have rieserfs?
[05:21] <dominic_> and login as root
[05:22] <dominic_> in order to login as root, type in konsole "su" and then type in your root password
[05:22] <pilar> ok
[05:22] <pilar> done
[05:22] <sparrw> (...Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] ... + ...Radeon R250 Ln [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]  [Secondary] ...) *2  <--  my video card status.  any tips on getting all 4 monitors working?
[05:22] <pilar> But the message is still there
[05:22] <dominic_> logged in as root?
[05:22] <nana> hi fen123
[05:22] <pilar> yes
[05:22] <nana> hi fen123
[05:22] <nana> hi fen123
[05:23] <nana> are u in the room?
[05:23] <dominic_> when you type in "dpkg --configure -a" restart your OS
[05:23] <pilar> do I have to restart?
[05:23] <dominic_> and i should be fine
[05:23] <dominic_> start logoff and then restart
[05:23] <pilar> ok, let's do it
[05:23] <dominic_> lol
[05:23] <GABI> OK
[05:23] <pilar> see you then
[05:23] <dominic_> k
[05:24] <dominic_> that's the problem with adept package, its runs in the background.... even though its on on the process
[05:24] <Etokura> Aren't there encoder commands for mplayer that you can use in a terminal for nquick media encoding?
[05:25] <GABI> PRET
[05:25] <nana> feni123
[05:26] <fdoving> Etokura: yes, 'mencoder' it's a separate package.
[05:27] <dominic_> anyone able to run windows online games without cedega or wine? other programs?
[05:27] <Etokura> Is there a list of commands comewhere?
[05:27] <Etokura> !mencoder
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Etokura> Somewhere*
[05:27] <fdoving> !info mencoder
[05:27] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 3473 kB, installed size 8732 kB
[05:27] <jhutchins> Etokura: That's a pretty complex subject.  I would suggest finding sites that discuss it on google or usenet news.
[05:28] <jhutchins> There is a set of shell scripts called tovid that is a lot of help preparing DVD's.
[05:28] <fdoving> Etokura: list of mencoder commands? 'man mencoder' from a konsole, or #mencoder in konqueror.
[05:29] <jhutchins> Etokura: You might also want to look at avidemux2, a transcoding and editing GUI.
[05:29] <jesusiyo> i can't play motogp3 with cedega why?
[05:29] <spawn57> is there anyone here that's proficient with software raid
[05:30] <javier> Hi! A quick question. I'm trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 but I think that I'm suffering this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/108606
[05:30] <javier> Any idea about how I could do the upgrade?
[05:30] <jhutchins> jesusiyo: That's a question for cedega, not kubuntu.
[05:31] <jesusiyo> tell me a page of irc for talk about games
[05:31] <dominic_> javier. its best to install kubuntu fresh....
[05:31] <kdesetup> how do I deactivate katapult -- I want to free up alt+space
[05:31] <dominic_> what does katapult do?
[05:32] <javier> dominic_: Why? It shoudn't be so different
[05:33] <dominic_> so you don't have to frustrate any bugs that might occur doing upgrade, i find it easier...
[05:33] <dominic_> that my way
[05:34] <javier> I upgraded my box at home and it worked fine
[05:34] <dominic_> lol well thats good.
[05:35] <jhutchins> freecontrib.org is timing out on me...
[05:35] <cosmodad> what's the standard video player in kubuntu?
[05:35] <kdesetup> dominic: from the APT description -- Katapult is an application, which analyses text-based queries to launch items, such as bookmarks, directories or programs.
[05:35] <kdesetup> 
[05:35] <dominic_> mplayer
[05:36] <dominic_> i install realplayer 10.... though
[05:36] <cosmodad> dominic_: no really? If I click on a video file, should it start mplayer?
[05:36] <cosmodad> dominic_: not even gmplayer?
[05:36] <cosmodad> dominic_: I was thinking about something equivalent to (GNOME) ubuntu's totem
[05:36] <dominic_> no it doesn cosmodad
[05:36] <dominic_> wtf
[05:37] <cosmodad> something GUI-like
[05:38] <dominic_> oh cool kdesetup thanks for that info
[05:38] <andre> oi
[05:38] <dominic_> well cosmodad, i use realplayer 10 ok, leave it that way
[05:39] <cosmodad> I don't really consider RP a movie player, but thanks ;)
[05:39] <dominic_> it lets me play streaming video, im good
[05:40] <andre> hi
[05:40] <polly1> Hello
[05:40] <npricardo> Hi!
[05:40] <dominic_> if your looking for a real movie player to play your dvds, then default kubunto player will not cut your requirement. google it <--- best website to find anything....
[05:41] <npricardo> I'm trying to install google hearth on kubunt, but I can't seem to be able to compile it... Any suggestions, please?
[05:41] <surgy> has anyone here ever compiled qt from http://www.trollqt.com ?
[05:42] <cosmodad> dominic_: well I'm basically trying to figure out what Kubuntu's default player is.  This is just to provide support for someone
[05:42] <surgy> npricardo: read the "readme"
[05:42] <jhutchins> Heh.  I have adept_updater running remotely through double-forwarded X over ssh.
[05:42] <surgy> jhutchins: lol
[05:42] <jhutchins> However, it's not offering me a system upgrade...
[05:42] <dominic_> ok then cosmodad, its settled, lmao
[05:43] <pollyo> dominic_: Do you hold stock in google? <Grin>
[05:43] <surgy> this compile is taking forever! benn at it for 20 mins and i still have to "make install"
[05:43] <pollyo> npricardo: I believe you might be able to find google earth in a repo.  Let me see if it is listed.  I'm thinking medibuntu.
[05:43] <dominic_> no i do not, and i will not buy stock as of right now... rather spend my money onto important things...
[05:43] <cosmodad> dominic_: hehe ok
[05:43] <leonardo> hi to all
[05:44] <dominic_> lol @cosmodad
[05:44] <leonardo> but we can speak only in english or we can speak also in itlaian?
[05:45] <dominic_> well guys prove me wrong, im not a linux guru. k (i wish those <grin>).
[05:45] <surgy> the whole idea of stocks seams retarded to me, but thats probably based off of ignorance alone. i mean really what is being traded? there is no actual real world value to these things is there? i mean 1 share doesnt represent an actual physicle thing does it?
[05:45] <pollyo> npricardo: try medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[05:45] <pollyo> npricardo: I see it in the repositories they maintain.
[05:45] <jhutchins> It appears to be updating things like kdelibs, so...
[05:45] <pollyo> npricardo: Googleearth and googleearth-data
[05:45] <npricardo> Thanks pollyo. Gonna check it out right now!
[05:45] <swoke> Hello !
[05:45] <npricardo> Thanks!
[05:45] <swoke> I'm looking for a way to launch kbfx on kooldock, so, dcop or something I guess right ?
[05:46] <massi__> hi
[05:46] <pollyo> dominic_: Prove you wrong on what note?
[05:46] <Jucato> !offtopic
[05:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:46] <dominic_> well surgy... you might be right..... im not into politics/poticians or anything of that sort of matter.... im just a happy kubuntu/new user human being... alright
[05:46] <sercik> how can i understand if nvidia acceleration enebled?
[05:46] <jesusiyo> #cedega
[05:46] <sercik> i see splash screen but.....
[05:47] <surgy> dominic_: allright :)
[05:47] <dominic_> @pollyo, if i talk nonsense....
[05:47] <sercik> #nvidia
[05:47] <surgy> can anyone here help me with a few console emulation questions?
[05:47] <Jucato> sercik: run this command in Konsole: glxinfo | grep render
[05:47] <Jucato> sercik: if it says Rendering: yes, then it's enabled
[05:48] <pollyo> dominic_: My only note is you speak rather generally.
[05:48] <jhutchins> Do I have to update the kernel explicitly in ubuntu?
[05:49] <dominic_> @pollyo well someone said that before, and also noted "realistic"
[05:49] <dominic_> lol
[05:50] <surgy> dominic_: you guys should go to the offtopic channel
[05:50] <markc> nana: are you still here ?
[05:51] <dominic_> lol ill stay here for questions that needed to be answered... ok surgy. beside you don't want me to go away. lol
[05:51] <surgy> dominic_: actually i wanted to chit chat with you, about games and what not
[05:52] <dominic_> ok one question.... know do you know to enable 3d cube in beryl
[05:54] <hdxx> dominic_: ctrl+alt and hold left mouse button and move right or left
[05:54] <lariska> asl
[05:54] <lariska> sal
[05:54] <lariska> :)
[05:54] <EspenBe> network question: how can I make my kubuntu remember the network settings after reboot?  The DNS-settings are blank after reboot :(
[05:54] <dominic_> ok cool that's
[05:54] <dominic_> thanks*
[05:54] <massi_> ciao
[05:55] <massi_> hola
[05:55] <sparrw> where can i get old ubuntu packages?
[05:55] <xhevi> hello, I have a question related to knetworkmanager -> How do i save the connection settings so that I dont have to enter them everytime I connect?
[05:56] <Jucato> sparrw: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:56] <EspenBe> xhevi: I have the same problem ;)
[05:56] <pticouillon> hello i have a question about how to use qt4 lib on Kunbuntu
[05:56] <pticouillon> actually on make it's qt3 lib used :(
[05:56] <neoncode> If I get a windows laptop, boot it with a live CD then use dd to make an image of the laptop's HD (with 'doze) onto an external USB HDD. Can I then later use dd to transfer the image back and get the laptop back to the state it was when I copied it?
[05:57] <dominic_> ok hdxx, when i did that it show black background, can you change that with something else, i saw a youtube video, showing beryl kubuntu in 3d cube with like volcano like background,.
[05:57] <hdxx> dominic_: did you install graphic drivers?
[05:57] <BluesKaj> what does the message "pkg set to manual installed"  mean ?
[05:58] <sparrw> Jucato: once im at the right package, how do i find the old version?
[05:58] <dominic_> well, i got an year old laptop with intel mobile 915m graphics.
[05:58] <dominic_> no nvidia or ati, i know it sucks
[05:58] <Jucato> sparrw: when you do a search for a package, you can pick from which release it will display. there's a drop down list for you to choose (on the front page)
[05:59] <sparrw> Jucato: i want packages not in any release
[05:59] <Jucato> sparrw: er? I thought you said older Ubuntu packages?
[05:59] <hdxx> dominic_: you can't run beryl without drivers
[05:59] <sparrw> Jucato: yes, obsolete ones, not currently in a release
[06:00] <yeti> hi - is it possible to use kububtu WITHOUT device-mapper, dm, md, etc? if so, how?
[06:00] <Jucato> sparrw: you mean even older than breezy (2005 October) ?
[06:00] <sparrw> Jucato: no
[06:00] <dominic_> yea i can.... i can run beryl with some of the goodies with intel mobile 915m graphics chips (intergrated)
[06:00] <Jucato> then look which release has the package version you are looking for. breezy, dapper, edgy or feisty
[06:00] <sparrw> Jucato: no release has it
[06:01] <Jucato> sparrw: ok.. you're looking for old Ubuntu packages that are not included in any Ubuntu release? that's confusing
[06:01] <dominic_> i can't enable blur effects though, cuz i shows rain-monkeys colors across my screen
[06:01] <sparrw> Jucato: yes.
[06:02] <dominic_> rainbow-monkeys*
[06:02] <sparrw> now i need to reboot, wish me luck
[06:02] <Jucato> sparrw: then you are not looking for an old Ubuntu package. an old ubuntu package would have to be included in an old ubuntu rellease
[06:02] <dominic_> good luck
[06:02] <Jucato> ah he left
[06:02] <dominic_> lol
[06:03] <dominic_> hdxx you there?
[06:03] <Jucato> that was really one confused person...
[06:03] <Jucato> s/confused/confusing...
[06:03] <hdxx> dominic_: type in console glxgears |grep rendering
[06:03] <dominic_> lol
[06:03] <dominic_> k
[06:03] <hdxx> ups no
[06:03] <hdxx> wait
[06:03] <hdxx> dominic_: type in console glxinfo |grep rendering
[06:03] <Jucato> glxinfo | grep render
[06:04] <dominic_> ummm.... ok glxgears are working blue red and green gears rotating...
[06:04] <danny500> Hey, what program can I use to convert an ogm video to mpeg?
[06:05] <hdxx> dominic_: type glxinfo | grep render
[06:05] <dominic_> direct rendering: yes
[06:06] <danny500> what can I use to recode a ogm video into a mpeg video?
[06:06] <dominic_> OPenGL rendere string: mesa DRI intel(R) 915m 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
[06:06] <dominic_> there you go hxdd
[06:07] <dominic_> did it helped u?
[06:07] <alexander> anyone that wants to help me get ATi driver installed?
[06:07] <hdxx> hm beryl need to work normaly.. and don't know then what is wrong with cube:S
[06:07] <hdxx> alexander: sure
[06:08] <danny500> how do I convert movie files using mencoder?
[06:08] <alexander> I tried with sudo apt-get install ati, but it didn't work :D
[06:08] <hdxx> alexander: do you have feisty fawn?
[06:08] <dominic_> nothing wrong with the cube it work... is just the background around the cube its black... i want to change that with picture or something
[06:08] <alexander> yes
[06:08] <nesha> hi all
[06:08] <dominic_> yes i do have feisty fawn
[06:08] <nesha> Does easyubuntu work on kubuntu too?
[06:09] <hdxx> alexander: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:09] <danny500> most likely yes
[06:09] <alexander> tnx
[06:09] <blckcts> dominic u talkin about beryl?
[06:10] <dominic_> yes
[06:10] <nesha> bye all, see ya later
[06:10] <danny500> nesha: kubuntu is only a diferent desktop environment for ubuntu so yes it'll work seeing since the kernal is the same
[06:10] <dominic_> later
[06:10] <matthew_> dominic_, you need to add/enable a skydome
[06:10] <nesha> ok tnx
[06:10] <hdxx> alexander: method 1 and 2 don't need to do.. just  Enable "restricted" Repository,  Disable Composite Extension, Configure the Driver and reboot
[06:10] <danny500> np
[06:10] <alexander> hdxx: how do i enable restricted repository?
[06:10] <Jucato> dominic_: you can also try asking people in #ubuntu-effects and #beryl and matthew_'s right, the skydome settings
[06:11] <danny500> HOW DO I USE MENCODER?
[06:11] <blckcts> dominic to work enable the skydome plus important the picture must be like 512x1024 or 1024x1024 or 1024x2048 etc
[06:11] <soulrider__> danny500: chill out
[06:11] <hdxx> alexander: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list .. and remove # on the server
[06:11] <matthew_> go into beryl settings manager -> Desktop -> Skydome and enable it, and put the path to a picture in there...it has to be of a certain dimension, though...4096x1024, I think
[06:11] <soulrider__> !info mencoder
[06:11] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 3473 kB, installed size 8732 kB
[06:11] <dominic_> ok where would i find skydome? in beryl setting manager?
[06:11] <danny500> that was help full, now I know it's version
[06:11] <blckcts> yes
[06:12] <underdog5004> dominic_, you need to add/enable a skydome
[06:12] <underdog5004> go into beryl settings manager -> Desktop -> Skydome and enable it, and put the path to a picture in there...it has to be of a certain dimension, though...4096x1024, I think
[06:12] <mischdele> !help mencoder
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <underdog5004> dominic_, it's all right there
[06:12] <underdog5004> just read it.
[06:12] <danny500> #mplayer
[06:12] <dominic_> k i don't have skydome i only have clone output (disable) desktop cube fade to desktop and rotate cube enabled
[06:13] <surgy> what package do i need to get rid of this error "configure: error: *** SDL version 1.1.3 not found!"
[06:13] <alexander> hdxx: how do I save the new settings?
[06:13] <Jucato> surgy: libsdl something with a -dev in the name
[06:13] <hdxx> alexander: ctrl +x .. then press Y and Enter
[06:13] <dominic_> k i got it, i got skydome to work, thanks guys
[06:14] <Jucato> surgy: libsdl1.2-dev it seems
[06:14] <surgy> Jucato: thanks again bro
[06:15] <Jucato> :)
[06:15] <blckcts> can someone help me with this:  Warning: Linking the shared library libkaffeinedvbsc.la against the static library ./FFdecsa/libFFdecsa.a is not portable!
[06:15] <blckcts> trying to complile a kaffeine plugin
[06:17] <coreymon77> blckcts: is it not possible to do it any other way?
[06:17] <dominic_> ok its not showing the picture i put.... what the heck...
[06:17] <coreymon77> blckcts: as in apt, deb or binary?
[06:17] <blckcts> umm i have the source
[06:18] <blckcts> done configure and i get that at make
[06:18] <Moo-> Could someone tell me what does these mean? X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:18] <blckcts> dominic_:  dimensions very important
[06:18] <dominic_> ok... like????
[06:18] <blckcts> 512x1024 1024x1024
[06:19] <dominic_> either one of them?
[06:19] <blckcts> yes
[06:20] <surgy> i get the following errors while trying to compile gens, can anyone shed some light on my situation? http://www.pastebin.ca/467553
[06:20] <surgy> !gens
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <dominic_> whats a good photo editing software... kubuntu doesn't come with one.. any suggestion?
[06:21] <blckcts> gimp?
[06:21] <yuriy> !gimp
[06:21] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[06:21] <coreymon77> blckcts: what im saying is are you sure that compiling the source is the only way to isntall this plugin, because if tehre in an apt, deb  binary etc way of doing it, that would eb easier
[06:21] <yuriy> !krita
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krita - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <yuriy> !info krita
[06:21] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
[06:21] <coreymon77> dominic_: definitely the gimp
[06:21] <blckcts> coreymon77:  yes only way
[06:21] <coreymon77> okay
[06:22] <yuriy> for basic photo editing (no drawing type stuff) digikam is good too
[06:22] <surgy> anyone?
[06:22] <danny500> #mplyer
[06:22] <dominic_> ill go with gimp i heard of it before when i had mandrake. thanks guys
[06:22] <danny500> #mplayer
[06:22] <coreymon77> dominic_: i think the gimp is the best of them, partially comparible to photoshop, but free
[06:22] <coreymon77> dominic_: you can get gimp from apt
[06:23] <mahdi> if you google around, there is a version of gimp with a redesigned interface to resemble photoshop
[06:23] <coreymon77> interesting, i like gimp interface better
[06:24] <dominic_> i like  photoshop though... im familiar with it since i took 2 year computer graphics in high school. ill look into it.. thanks for the info
[06:24] <coreymon77> for top of the line quality editing, photoshop is way more powerful than any other program, but gimp is still very powerful and free
[06:25] <n8k99> you can use the gimpshop script to change teh gimp interface to look like photoshop
[06:25] <coreymon77> dominic_: interfaces are very similar anyways
[06:26] <korobase> I want Play the mp3 music file,But the player tell me that there is no codec in my computer.
[06:26] <coreymon77> !mp3
[06:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <coreymon77> korobase: look at those, they mau help
[06:27] <korobase> mau?
[06:27] <korobase> what?
[06:28] <coreymon77> i meant may
[06:28] <coreymon77> typo
[06:30] <coreymon77> korobase: the y and u keys are right beside eachother, so i typoed and said mau when i meant to say may
[06:30] <reffus> !compress
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compress - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <rapid> whats the klogviewer called
[06:31] <korobase> !codec
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:32] <coreymon77> hey everyone, does anyone know what they are calling the next *buntu distro, or has it not been decided yet
[06:32] <dominic_> thanks for all your help guys...
[06:32] <n8k99> gutsy gibbon
[06:32] <dominic_> ill see ya later tonight, gonna sleep for 2 hours before work, lmao
[06:32] <coreymon77> lol
[06:33] <surgy> what package do i need to fix the dependanct problem associated with libqt3c102-mt   ?
[06:33] <Jucato> libqt3-mt-dev ?
[06:34] <tin_> hi, how do I get my kubuntu version?
[06:34] <coreymon77> what do you mean?
[06:35] <coreymon77> as in dapper, edgy, feisty?
[06:35] <Jucato> tin_: how do you check? "lsb_release -a" command in Konsole
[06:35] <tin_> I did get a PC yesterday with kubuntu I have problems installing firefox and thunderbird and error-finding withoud version is not easy
[06:36] <coreymon77> tin_: firefox is preinstalled
[06:36] <tin_> thx
[06:36] <Jucato> hm... what problems? how are you tryint to install Firefox and Thunderbird?
[06:36] <Jucato> coreymon77: not on Kubuntu
[06:36] <coreymon77> Jucato: what are you talking about, it was with me
[06:36] <coreymon77> tin_: problems with apt?
[06:36] <tin_> apt-get install firefox
[06:36] <Jucato> unless you installed Ubuntu over Kubuntu or vice versa. Firefox isn't (never was) installed by default on Kubuntu
[06:36] <coreymon77> did you remember to use sudo
[06:37] <tin_> yes
[06:37] <Jucato> what problem are you encountering Schokolade?
[06:37] <Schokolade> There is no install-candidate - E: Paket firefox hat keinen Installationskandidaten
[06:37] <coreymon77> Jucato: yes it was, i installed kubuntu fresh, on top of nothing, and firefox was preinstalled
[06:37] <Schokolade> coreymon77:  here it is not :-(
[06:37] <dfeser> hi all
[06:38] <coreymon77> are your universe repos enabled?
[06:38] <dfeser> my firefox doesnt start anymore
[06:38] <Jucato> coreymon77: that is really weird then
[06:38] <Jucato> firefox is in main, not in universe
[06:38] <coreymon77> okay
[06:38] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get update
[06:38] <coreymon77> that should do it
[06:38] <dfeser> does someone have had this problem yet?
[06:38] <coreymon77> dfeser: what problem
[06:38] <dfeser> my firefox doesnt start anymore
[06:39] <surgy> Jucato: that wasnt it....... im trying to get qjoypad to work, so i can bind keyboard input to my gamepad so that i can use my gamepad as my sole input device
[06:39] <coreymon77> dfeser: any error messages?
[06:39] <dfeser> no none...just a process "firefox-bin" running...but no output
[06:40] <surgy> dfeser: try this in the konsole " sudo killall firefox"
[06:40] <BluesKaj> "Dell picks Ubuntu for Linux PCs" : http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6180419.html?tag=nl.rSINGLE
[06:40] <surgy> dfeser: and then try to restart firefox
[06:40] <coreymon77> surgy: isnt it mozilla-firefox
[06:40] <dfeser> there is no process "firefox" and no "firefox-bin"
[06:41] <dfeser> i killed them before
[06:41] <Schokolade> coreymon77: in adept thunderbird and firefox is grey
[06:41] <jussi01> !offtopic | BluesKaj
[06:41] <ubotu> BluesKaj: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:41] <coreymon77> okay, dfeser, try running it from konsole and see if it gives you any errors (pastebin the output)
[06:41] <coreymon77> Schokolade: sudo apt-get update
[06:41] <coreymon77> Schokolade: or fetch updates button in adepy
[06:42] <coreymon77> adept*
[06:42] <Schokolade> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages - 404
[06:42] <dfeser> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 155
[06:42] <surgy> coreymon77: could be
[06:42] <coreymon77> surgy: dfeser, thats normal
[06:42] <dfeser> ok
[06:42] <coreymon77> dfeser: i said pastebin btw
[06:43] <Schokolade> coreymon77: where is that button in adept?!
[06:43] <dfeser> what could be the problem?
[06:43] <coreymon77> Schokolade: top left
[06:43] <coreymon77> dfeser: type sudo ksysguard in konsole
[06:44] <Schokolade> nope, nol button ... and version 6.06 if it is an difference
[06:44] <dfeser> ok...now?
[06:44] <coreymon77> dfeser: do you see a processes tab in taht window
[06:45] <dfeser> ye
[06:45] <dfeser> s
[06:45] <coreymon77> dfeser: go there
[06:45] <dfeser> but if i search for firefox there
[06:45] <dfeser> it doesnt show me a process
[06:45] <coreymon77> dfeser: btw, can you type my nick and then a colon before you say thigns to me, like i am with you
[06:45] <BluesKaj> hey jussi01 ..lighten up..that's petty big news
[06:45] <dfeser> ok
[06:46] <coreymon77> dfeser: search mozilla
[06:46] <dfeser> coreymon77 will do that from now on
[06:46] <dfeser> coreymon77 nothin'
[06:46] <coreymon77> dfeser: search for a mozilla process
[06:46] <coreymon77> oaky
[06:46] <coreymon77> Schokolade: wait a second, you are on dapper and yet using feisty repositories
[06:47] <dfeser> coreymon77 strange thing...i did change nothing
[06:47] <coreymon77> dfeser: restart x and running firefox again
[06:47] <coreymon77> Schokolade: dapper, edgy or feisty?
[06:47] <Schokolade> coreymon77: How to find out?
[06:48] <dfeser> coreymon77 i did all of these things already...reboot, restart X, choose another user...
[06:48] <coreymon77> Schokolade: version 6.06?
[06:48] <Schokolade> yep
[06:49] <Schokolade> dapper
[06:49] <Schokolade> :)
[06:49] <coreymon77> Schokolade: were did you get this error message from
[06:49] <coreymon77> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages - 404
[06:49] <Schokolade> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS dapper
[06:49] <Schokolade> I get it after apt_get -install firefox
[06:50] <coreymon77> dfeser: try un and reinstalling firefox through apt
[06:50] <bonaldo2000> I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?
[06:50] <Schokolade> coreymon77:  stop after update.
[06:50] <dfeser> coreymon77 i did even that!
[06:50] <coreymon77> Schokolade: thats the problem, you are on dapper and yet using feisty repositories
[06:50] <Schokolade> coreymon77: ok, and how can I chance it? :-)
[06:50] <coreymon77> Schokolade: thats why it is not working
[06:51] <coreymon77> in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <coreymon77> actually no
[06:51] <coreymon77> open adept manager
[06:52] <Schokolade> ok
[06:52] <coreymon77> dfeser: i really have no clue, try asking on the mozilla irc (irc.mozilla.org) on the firefox channel there
[06:52] <coreymon77> Schokolade: in the menus at the top, look upntil you find "manage repositories" in one of the menus
[06:53] <coreymon77> Schokolade: did you find it?
[06:53] <Schokolade> on the top ist quite nothing, unter the menu is search and a select box with KDE and gnome. after that show: unsupported and proprietary software
[06:54] <coreymon77> Schokolade: thats not what i mean, above the buttons, there are file, tools and help menus right?
[06:54] <Schokolade> wrong manager...
[06:54] <coreymon77> Schokolade: at the top of the adept window
[06:54] <Schokolade> ok
[06:54] <Schokolade> found it
[06:55] <coreymon77> you found manage repositories?
[06:55] <Schokolade> jup
[06:55] <Schokolade> long list ... many gray
[06:55] <coreymon77> Schokolade: okay, now, in that window, you see how it shows the website and then says feisty beside each line
[06:56] <coreymon77> Schokolade: do you see that?
[06:56] <Schokolade> 1 feisty many dapper and more dapper- ...
[06:56] <coreymon77> Schokolade: change the feisty to dapper
[06:56] <coreymon77> Schokolade: and which ones are grey?
[06:56] <dfeser> koreymon77 i solved it
[06:56] <Schokolade> http://de.archive.ubunut. ...
[06:57] <Schokolade> dapper main restricte
[06:57] <coreymon77> Schokolade: stop
[06:57] <Schokolade> ok
[06:57] <dfeser> koreymon77 i have a big desktop setup but no second mon connected at the moment...
[06:58] <coreymon77> Schokolade: in the kmenu, go to graphics and the ksnapshot
[06:58] <coreymon77> Schokolade: is ksnapshot open?
[06:58] <Schokolade> jep and photo is taken
[06:59] <aaroncampbell> I installed sun java 5 from the repos, but when I do java --version, I still get: java version "1.4.2" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu5)
[06:59] <dfeser> koreymon77 do you know why xorg doesnt change the resolution to the first monitors res if only one mon is connected?
[06:59] <coreymon77> Schokolade: is adept the window on the top of the snapshot
[06:59] <aaroncampbell> And I think all my programs try to use this older java, which isn't working right...
[06:59] <Schokolade> yes
[06:59] <coreymon77> aaroncampbell: sudo update-alternatives --java
[07:00] <coreymon77> aaroncampbell: and then choose the java version you want to use
[07:01] <mzanfardino> I've recently upgraded from kubuntu 6.10 (edgy) to 7.04 (feisty) only to discover that I can't build vmware server 1.0.3. I think I may have to return to using edgy. Will I have to rebuild in order to do this?
[07:01] <coreymon77> Schokolade: okay, go to www.imageshack.us and host the snapshot you just took
[07:01] <Schokolade> coreymon77: http://www.taverne-im-nebel.de/index.php/Bild:Bildschirmphoto1.png
[07:01] <coreymon77> mzanfardino: no
[07:01] <coreymon77> !vmware
[07:01] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:02] <mzanfardino> coreymon77: interesting. thank you. I will look into that.
[07:03] <SeicherlBoB> hi! I'm sorry i forgot how to run a program or script like 'foo' as daemon (when there is no option to do so)
[07:03] <coreymon77> Schokolade: didnt work, host the snapshot on www.imageshack.us
[07:04] <coreymon77> Schokolade: and then give me the link
[07:05] <coreymon77> Schokolade: okay, heres what we do, up at the top, the cdrom repository
[07:06] <coreymon77> Schokolade: delete that one
[07:06] <coreymon77> Schokolade: delete the first three repositories on that links
[07:07] <coreymon77> Schokolade: i mean, list
[07:07] <Schokolade> ok
[07:08] <coreymon77> Schokolade: okay, now, enable all of the other repositories in that list
[07:08] <coreymon77> all the lines that start with deb or deb-src, enable those
[07:08] <SeicherlBoB> Can someone tell me how to run an executable (C-prog) as daemon from a shell-script?
[07:09] <coreymon77> Schokolade: okay?
[07:10] <Schokolade> ok
[07:10] <Schokolade> update qas quite fine
[07:10] <coreymon77> Schokolade: are they not grey anymore?
[07:10] <coreymon77> Schokolade: the repositories, are they not grey anymore?
[07:10] <Schokolade> yep
[07:10] <Schokolade> thankls
[07:11] <coreymon77> Schokolade: now save it, and update
[07:11] <coreymon77> the button at the top left
[07:11] <coreymon77> Schokolade: is everything okay now?
[07:12] <Schokolade> yes
[07:12] <Schokolade> thanks
[07:13] <coreymon77> Schokolade: no problem
[07:13] <aaroncampbell> java can't seem to see my print service.  I get "No Print Service Found." when I try to print.  I tried in jedit and Zend Studio.  I also tried using Sun Java 5 from the repos, and the java that comes with Zend Studio
[07:14] <dak> hrm
[07:17] <SeicherlBoB> how can i open another terminal-session via a script to execute a command?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I can't open kate
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Well not normally
[07:17] <coreymon77> SeicherlBoB: why not just open another terminal session normally and the run the command
[07:18] <coreymon77> SeicherlBoB: why would you need a script
[07:18] <DaSkreech> i get a dialog with the error message KDEinit could not launch 'kate'
[07:18] <SeicherlBoB> coreymon77: i need to test a client-server-environment. so i need a script starting the server and 1 or 2 clients but all in different 'windows'
[07:19] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: try un and reinstalling kate with apt
[07:19] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: I can open it from the Command line
[07:19] <DaSkreech> No erros no complaints
[07:19] <DaSkreech> errors
[07:19] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: but you cant through the kmenu
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Any other method results in that error
[07:19] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: thats odd
[07:20] <DaSkreech> or alt+f2 or Alt+Space or clicking on a text file
[07:20] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: but command line works
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Like a dream
[07:20] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: once again, i dont really know, try un/re installing
[07:20] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: couldnt hurt
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Let me try kdesu kate
[07:21] <DaSkreech> That works fine
[07:21] <DaSkreech> albeit with out my kate icon :)
[07:21] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: okay, something is obviously wrong with a configuration
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:21] <DaSkreech> How else can I test KDEinit
[07:22] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: once again, try un/re installing kate through apt and see if that helps
[07:22] <yonkeltron> how can one get to browsing printers through zeroconf?
[07:24] <venik> Why do I have icons for open applications in the panel near the clock in Kubuntu?  They are already shown in the panel on the left of it.
[07:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> venik- that may be your quick start menu, it automatically adds the programs you use most often. You can right click and remove it if you want
[07:27] <Anarch> Sticky keys: Just turned them on by accident, haven't found out how to turn them off, <Enter> doesn't work on xterms any more, I need the computer for work now, help!
[07:28] <yonkeltron> Anarch: try system settings under accessibility
[07:28] <Anarch> yonkeltron: thanks, trying now ...
[07:29] <aaroncampbell> java can't seem to see my print service.  I get "No Print Service Found." when I try to print.  I tried in jedit and Zend Studio.  I also tried using Sun Java 5 from the repos, and the java that comes with Zend Studio
[07:29] <venik> I have THREE panels: one showing what I use often, one showing what I CURRENTLY have opened, and one showing, again, what is currently open
[07:32] <tomg> hi all, how do i make the kde taskbar only show windows from the current workspace under beryl?
[07:33] <Anarch> Sticky keys grief: in [System Settings]  -> [Modifier Keys tab]  -> "Sticky Keys" box, I turned them off and hit [Apply] ; <Enter> still doesn't work, even in a fresh xterm.  (Neither do any other keys; also don't work on Konqueror so can't type passwords.)  This was several minutes ago.
[07:34] <fenn`> hello samick, are you around?
[07:35] <fenn`> dr0fnax_away, hello
[07:36] <Anarch> Sticky keys grief: about 10 minutes ago I told it to time out sticky keys after 1 minute of activity; did [Apply] ; still, no keys work.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: no go
[07:40] <FringeLicious> what is a good movie maker for slide shows for pictures?
[07:43] <voicu> how do i change the home dir of an user
[07:43] <voicu> ?
[07:43] <llutz> voicu: usermod
[07:44] <voicu> oh, thnkas
[07:44] <voicu> &thnkas
[07:44] <voicu> **thanks
[07:44] <FringeLicious> does anyone do slide shows on linux or is it hopeless and windows is needed?
[07:45] <savetheWorld> FringeLicious: see impress
[07:45] <savetheWorld> FringeLicious: Part of opneOffice
[07:45] <savetheWorld> *OpenOffice
[07:46] <paulo_> Hello
[07:46] <paulo_> Someone there?
[07:47] <paulo_> I need help... I've taken away the menu bar from Konqueror and I need it back... I just don't know what to do
[07:49] <guglielf> hi folks
[07:49] <paulo_> Hi
[07:49] <Markon> hi guglielf
[07:49] <paulo_> Hey guys I need help... I've taken away the menu bar from Konqueror and I need it back... I just don't know what to do
[07:49] <guglielf> is anyone experiencing problems (aka crashes) with konversation when receiving files?
[07:49] <llutz> paulo_: press ctrl-m
[07:50] <paulo_> llutz, oh thank so much
[07:50] <paulo_> it's back, alleluia
[07:51] <pilar> hey!
[07:51] <pilar> Here I am again
[07:51] <Markon> guglielf:  when exactly ?
[07:52] <guglielf> Markon: err, when receiving files
[07:52] <pilar> I am trying some things to have running on my recently installed kubuntu feisty
[07:52] <pilar> My pc is an amd64 and I am having some troubles with firefox and the plugins java and flash
[07:52] <Markon> guglielf:  I have the same problem!
[07:53] <Markon> can anyone help us ?
[07:53] <pilar> that would be a good idea
[07:54] <guglielf> Markon: yes but you knew that beforehand ;)
[07:54] <Markon> pilar:  don't you know how to resolve our problem ? :(
[07:54] <pilar> well, I am reading some things about install a 32bit version of Firefox
[07:54] <pilar> I did it
[07:54] <pilar> it is not dificult
[07:55] <pilar> My point is how to run that version in spanish
[07:55] <pilar> ;)
[07:55] <aa> Gosh
[07:55] <aa> hey people, welcome me, finally I decided to move to ubuntu, but I know nothing now, I am lost!
[07:56] <Markon> our (mine and guglielf's)  is that konversation crashes when they try to send us a file..
[07:56] <guglielf> pilar: there's a thread on ubuntuforums... go search you'll find it ;9
[07:56] <pilar> http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64/index.php
[07:57] <pilar> this is the script I have done
[07:57] <aa> :( some to cheer me up,    I   am totally lost in this o.s.
[07:57] <pilar> but that post don't tell me how to run the 32 bit version of firefox in spanish
[07:58] <guglielf> that's a problem indeed
[07:58] <pilar> how can I install a new language on this browser? I know the directory
[07:58] <pilar> My question is how to install a new language manually, not with apt
[07:59] <Markon> guglielf:  I' ve tried to see on launchpad.net.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=konversation&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=
[07:59] <aa> naah, decided, I'll be back in windows vista ;( see you  buddies
[08:00] <Markon> bye aa
[08:01] <guglielf> Markon: ok, there's a bug report
[08:01] <guglielf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/60898
[08:03] <Markon> guglielf:  report this bug ;)
[08:03] <guglielf> the bug is in Fix Committed status
[08:04] <guglielf> Known bug in 1.0.1. You can void it by disabling "Focus on new tabs". Fixed in SVN.
[08:05] <Markon> guglielf:  ok ok :D good!
[08:07] <p_masho> I just updated Kubuntu and now the "kde" logout only has the "logout" button and not the restart/shutdown etc... anyone know how to put this back on ?
[08:09] <BluesKaj> p_masho:  just logout and the next time you do all the options will be restored
[08:09] <p_masho> BluesKaj: ben logging in and out for a week !!
[08:09] <p_masho> its only now I had the time ot pose the question
[08:09] <BluesKaj> i thought you just updated
[08:11] <BluesKaj> check in adept for kde desktop...you may not have it installed
[08:11] <BluesKaj> or kdm rather , sorry
[08:13] <p_masho> its a fresh kununtu (and only kubuntu) isntall from 3 months ago...
[08:14] <pilar> well
[08:15] <pilar> another problem that I have
[08:15] <pilar> is that I don't ear any sound!!
[08:15] <pilar> what can it be?
[08:16] <WillLuongo> hello, when I am away from my computer for more than about five minutes, the screen stops refreshing until I move the mouse / touch a key. Any ideas what causes this behavior and how to stop it? I am running Feisty.
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !sound | pilar
[08:16] <ubotu> pilar: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:17] <lfs-livecd> hey everyone, i need some help: how could i prevent ndiswrapper to be loaded at boot time? the boot process stops upon its failure. the problem came up after upgrading from dapper to feisty crashed
[08:17] <WillLuongo> I think I figured it out. It looks like my screen saver would fail to initialize.
[08:18] <ForgeAus> :( my ARTS crashes
[08:18] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: You can press Ctrl+C to bypass that I think
[08:18] <DaSkreech>  but you need to edit the startup configs
[08:19] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: Do you know SysV startup ?
[08:19] <lfs-livecd> Nope
[08:20] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: On a live CD now?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !ndiswrapper
[08:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:20] <lfs-livecd> yes, i<m on a live CD :)
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Ok you can mount your drive?
[08:21] <lfs-livecd> yup, done already :D
[08:21] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: how did you install ndiswrapper?
[08:21] <lfs-livecd> i think it was through the package manager
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Oh thats easy then :)
[08:23] <DaSkreech>  Just apt-et uninstall it
[08:23] <DaSkreech> -get
[08:24] <lfs-livecd> linux from scratch livecd doesn<t have apt..
[08:25] <bryan_> does anyone know how to get send link working in firefox 2.0,0.3?
[08:26] <zorglu_> bryan_: what is this 'send link'
[08:26] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: Does it have chroot?
[08:27] <bryan_> sending a web page url via an email client
[08:28] <bryan_> click on File-it's there
[08:29] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech yes
[08:30] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: pop up a terminal
[08:31] <lfs-livecd> done
[08:31] <DaSkreech> browse to where you have mounted the / partition
[08:31] <DaSkreech> and chroot .
[08:32] <scast> Anyone knows in what repository can I find Opera?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> !opera
[08:32] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:32] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[08:32] <jhutchins_wk> That would be
[08:32] <scast> Darn sometimes I wish I installed Ubuntu.
[08:32] <jhutchins_wk> !find opera
[08:33] <ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[08:33] <pacman> I have a DVR through my cable company.  It has a USB Port on the front of it...what are the chances I can run a cable from it to my computer and pull some of the recorded stuff off?
[08:33] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: apt-get remove ndiswrapper ?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: I'd aptitude search ndiswrapper
[08:34] <DaSkreech> anyone that has an [i]  beside it I'd remove
[08:34] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: apt-get search ndiswrapper?
[08:35] <lfs-livecd> or aptitude search ndiswrapper?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> aptitude
[08:35] <DaSkreech> it gives you a handy i if the package is installed
[08:35] <DaSkreech> So you can scrub well :)
[08:36] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: -> i   ndiswrapper-utils               - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper  <- that<s what i<m looking for?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Yep
[08:37] <lfs-livecd> alrighty, thanks :D
[08:37] <DaSkreech> If you reboot and it works let me know
[08:37] <niels_> Hi
[08:37] <niels_> Can anyone help me with something
[08:38] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: will do
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !someone
[08:38] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:39] <niels_> I want to have two menu items in grub boot menu that both start up the same system but run a different start-up script
[08:39] <DaSkreech> what do you mean by startup script ?
[08:40] <niels_> I just want to write two scripts, something like rc.local
[08:40] <niels_> and I want to choose which one to start-up with
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Whats the difference between the two?
[08:41] <niels_> Enables different configurations for my notebook - one for work and one for home
[08:41] <jhutchins_wk> niels_: You could us ASK in your scrpt.
[08:41] <niels_> Like I want to switch xorg.conf file
[08:42] <niels_> But I read someone who gave env variables as a parameter in his menu.lst file
[08:43] <niels_> but it doesn't seem to work
[08:43] <niels_> now I don't find any documentation on this
[08:43] <niels_> like this: kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386  ro quiet splash XORG=single
[08:43] <niels_> kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386  ro single XORG=dual
[08:43] <niels_> two different items
[08:43] <DaSkreech> niels_: use a different run level
[08:44] <DaSkreech> niels_: runlevel 2 for home and 3 for work
[08:44] <niels_> how do I do that?
[08:44] <DaSkreech> copy the one you have now and put a space followed by 3
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Where you have XORG=dual just use a 3
[08:44] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: I don't think ubuntu uses numeric runlevels.
[08:45] <DaSkreech> then set your runlevel scripts for 3 to have a dual head config
[08:45] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: It can
[08:45] <olle46536> hi. have a question about kubuntu
[08:46] <Etokura> Hi
[08:46] <olle46536> if i install ubuntu-desktop, will i have the option to choose Gnome/kde at startup
[08:46] <olle46536> ?
[08:46] <Etokura> Yeah
[08:46] <niels_> but... doesn't it already use runlevel 3 ?
[08:46] <olle46536> may i disable that? and just use kde?
[08:47] <Etokura> You can automatically use kde each time
[08:47] <Etokura> Without picking
[08:47] <olle46536> good, thanx
[08:47] <ubuntu_> how reinstall grub from cd live of kubuntu
[08:47] <jhutchins_wk> !grub
[08:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:47] <olle46536> ill give kubuntu-desktop a try
[08:47] <stoft> how can I see which packages are not installed properly (!="ii" in dpkg -l e.g.)
[08:47] <stoft> +
[08:47] <stoft> *?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> niels_: I think runlevel 2
[08:48] <DaSkreech>  just type runlevel to find out
[08:48] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: removing the ndiswrapper package triggered a ton of updates, heh
[08:49] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd: so it didn't work
[08:49] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:49] <lfs-livecd> no idea, i`m waiting for the whole process to finish before rebooting
[08:49] <niels_> DaSkreech: you're right
[08:50] <niels_> DaSkreech: so if I type number 3 it will go from runlevel 1 to 3, it  will ignore the rc2.d files and run the rc3.d files?
[08:50] <lfs-livecd> DaSkreech: my humble guess though, is that removing the ndis package made the upgrade process restart where it crashed
[08:52] <jthumb> on kubuntu 6.10 i have my Printer-Drivers (Kyocera Mita FS-1920) in many languages .... in 7.04 only English is left and on top of it its not working ... i got the same configuration 1:1 copy
[08:53] <jthumb> its a network printer ... and i have my laptop 6.10 and my desktop 7.04 side by side ... but its not working on the desktop
[08:53] <jthumb> is there something wrong with the printer drivers in 7.04 ?
[08:54] <piotrek> hello :] 
[08:54] <piotrek> i've got a little problem... :(
[08:55] <piotrek> How can I install gnome games?
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> you...  install them
[08:57] <piotrek> sudo apt-get install gnome-games... it isn't good :(
[08:57] <piotrek> sorry but i can't speak good English
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> what exactly is the problem when installing them?
[08:58] <stoft> think I solved it, the following should match any package that starts with "i" but is not "ii" right? dpkg -l| grep -e "^i^[i] "
[08:58] <nana> hi
[08:59] <stoft> sudo: why isn't sudo apt-get install gnome-games good?
[08:59] <aaroncampbell> java can't seem to see my print service.  I get "No Print Service Found." when I try to print.  I tried in jedit and Zend Studio.  I also tried using Sun Java 5 from the repos, and the java that comes with Zend Studio
[09:00] <sudo> sorry juz nie ma problemu :D
[09:00] <stoft> sudo: where are you from?
[09:00] <jhutchins_wk> !doesn't work
[09:00] <sudo> Poland
[09:00] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:00] <stoft> !poland
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poland - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <stoft> !polish
[09:00] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:01] <sudo> Thx :*:D
[09:01] <stoft> sudo: no problem
[09:01] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins_wk: who that that for?
[09:02] <jhutchins_wk> aaroncampbell: piotrek/sudo, but channel in general.
[09:03] <jhutchins_wk> It's always better to say what DID happen than just "it didn't work".
[09:07] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins_wk: ok, I thought maybe it was directed at me, but I thought I stated the problem, and what happened.
[09:11] <DaSkreech> niels_: That's the idea
[09:12] <niels_> DaSkreech: Damn, I've just done this but my computer is still in runlevel 2!
[09:13] <DaSkreech> niels_: Do me a favour and try init 3
[09:13] <Shura> Hello ! Is someone using Kubuntu 7.04 on a Asus F3JC laptop ? I have sound problems
[09:14] <niels_> DaSkreech: worked fine
[09:14] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[09:14] <jhutchins_wk> niels_: I don't think ubuntu uses numerical runlevels.
[09:15] <niels_> When I do runlevel it now says "2 3"
[09:15] <bonaldo2000> I have enabled Nvidia TV-out, so that I have two desktops. One on my monitor and one on the tv. However now I can't get some keyboard shortcuts to work. FOr instance, if I set a shortcut to open konsole, it just ignores it. It works if I disable TV-out. Is there a way I can make it work WITH TV out?
[09:15] <DaSkreech> now you need to have a config in /etc/rc3.d/ to setup X the way you want it
[09:16] <noe> hola
[09:17] <DaSkreech> halo
[09:18] <niels_> DaSkreech: I already did that
[09:18] <noe> i dont speek english sorry
[09:18] <DaSkreech> ok so that config works?
[09:18] <noe> alguien sabe manejar wifislax?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> noe: What do you speak?
[09:18] <noe> spain
[09:18] <niels_> DaSkreech: Still the usual, it didn't go to runlevel 3
[09:19] <DaSkreech> niels_: But you are in Runlevel 3 now ?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> !sp
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <DaSkreech> !es
[09:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:19] <DaSkreech> ~Whoops :)
[09:19] <dfeser> hi again
[09:19] <noe> como entro en esos canales soy novato
[09:20] <niels_> DaSkreech: yes I did init 3 and it changed, but it didn't run the script I think
[09:20] <DaSkreech> What did you name the script?
[09:20] <niels_> DaSkreech: does it do that when you do init?
[09:21] <niels_> DaSkreech: I added a link to rc2.d and rc3.d starting with S99
[09:21] <DaSkreech> YOu added a link wehre?
[09:21] <niels_> DaSkreech: /etc/rc3.d
[09:21] <dfeser> hey, where are the volume up/down hotkeys defined?
[09:22] <niels_> S99work
[09:22] <dfeser> im looking for how to use the Fn key...
[09:22] <Shura> Hello ! Is someone using Kubuntu 7.04 on a Asus F3JC laptop ? I have sound problems
[09:22] <DaSkreech> niels_: Ah :) which is a link to what in /etc/rc2.d
[09:22] <dfeser> im using a notebook
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !sound | Shura
[09:22] <ubotu> Shura: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:22] <DaSkreech> noe: That's ok
[09:22] <DaSkreech> What would you like help with ?
[09:23] <niels_> DaSkreech: /etc/rc2.d/S99home -> /etc/rc.home, /etc/rc3.d/S99work -> /etc/rc.work
[09:24] <DaSkreech> rc.home and rc.work are directories or files ?
[09:24] <DaSkreech> !upstart
[09:24] <niels_> DaSkreech: files off course
[09:24] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:24] <DaSkreech> niels_: ok
[09:24] <niels_> DaSckreech: isn't the problem that it doesn't even start-up in level 3 ?
[09:25] <noe> como entro en el canal en castellano
[09:25] <noe> por favor
[09:26] <jhutchins_wk> !it
[09:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:26] <jhutchins_wk> noe: Sorry,
[09:26] <jhutchins_wk> !es | noe
[09:26] <ubotu> noe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:26] <jhutchins_wk> That's the closest I know of.
[09:27] <dfeser>  how do i use the Fn key (notebook) for keyboard shortcuts?
[09:27] <noe> gracias y perdon por las molestias
[09:27] <Sakabatou> Guys, how to install a geforce 7600 gs on kubuntu feisty?
[09:27] <Sakabatou> I install the drivers from the nvidia site
[09:28] <Sakabatou> And when i reboot
[09:28] <DaSkreech> niels_: Hmm I guess
[09:28] <Sakabatou> It just hangs
[09:28] <bbeck> Does anyone know if there's a way to alter the color of the text in the taskbar?
[09:28] <Sakabatou> after the "kubuntu" panel
[09:28] <DaSkreech> dfeser: There is a package
[09:28] <DaSkreech> klaptop I think ?
[09:29] <dfeser> daskreech called what?
[09:30] <niels_> I don't get this, it should work
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !upstart | niels_. I think this migth help
[09:30] <ubotu> niels_. I think this migth help: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:31] <SubOne> I used KRDC to VNC to another computer at full screen with fit to screen, and the connection was lost, now my screen resolution is much lower, how can I fix it? And how can I stop it from happening in the future?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> dfeser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039
[09:32] <jhutchins_wk> SubOne: Restart X.
[09:32] <tuco> Guys how can I change the Desktop access and K menu icons please?
[09:32] <SubOne> jhutchins: That's the obvious solution for the first issue, but how can I avoid needing to restart X everytime i VNC?
[09:33] <jhutchins_wk> SubOne: Don't give it full screen.
[09:33] <niels_> DaSkreech: ok, I'll look in to it, Thanks for the help
[09:33] <SubOne> That is hardly a solution
[09:33] <jhutchins_wk> SubOne: possibly use Ctrl-Alt-+ to change res, or krandrtray.
[09:33] <DaSkreech> tuco: DesktopAccess?
[09:34] <tuco> yes
[09:34] <tuco> the icon on the panel
[09:35] <SubOne> i cannot change my resolution at all so how would krandrtray help
[09:35] <bobleny> Hey, when I go to the terminal at the login screen with ctrl + alt + F2, are all the partitions mounted?
[09:36] <jhutchins_wk> SubOne: It changes resolutions for you.
[09:36] <jhutchins_wk> bobleny: Same ones as in kde, but "mount" will tell you for sure.
[09:36] <SubOne> jhutchins_wk: what did you not understand about I am not able to change resolution at this time for some unknown reason
[09:36] <bobleny> Ok, thank you
[09:36] <|ericsson|> Anyone could give a hint as to why [sudo apt-get install mysq-server]  wants to install [mysql-server mysql-server-5.0] ? ;)
[09:38] <jhutchins_wk> SubOne: Well, if you already know, I guess I can't help you.  Sorry to waste your time.
[09:38] <|ericsson|> !search mysql
[09:38] <ubotu> Found: lamp, mysql
[09:38] <DaSkreech> tuco: Which ? You have a show desktop Panel ?
[09:38] <DaSkreech> |ericsson|: mysq-server shouldn't install anything
[09:39] <SubOne> jhutchins_wk: I am looking for how to fix the problem not the symptom
[09:39] <tuco> yes that one
[09:39] <|ericsson|> DaSkreech: you who? It would install mysql, yes?
[09:39] <DaSkreech> tuco: Hmm check in /usr/share/icons I guess
[09:40] <tuco> I mean I managed to change Firefox icon, amarok,etc by choosing configure xxxx button
[09:40] <tuco> but no such things for show desktop and K menu
[09:40] <SubOne> jhutchins_wk: the problem is Krdc messed up my resolution and I dont want to restart X everytime i use VNC, the symptom is that my resolution is now changed, but fixing the symptom will not stop the symptom from reoccuring
[09:40] <easytiger> how come amarok super-key shortcuts don't work in gnome anymore
[09:40] <jhutchins_wk> It would be nice if the interactive portion of the upgrade were either condensed into one session or would at least beep when it requires attention.
[09:40] <DaSkreech> |ericsson|: mysql-server always isntalls the latest mysql
[09:40] <DaSkreech> |ericsson|: It's not a real package
[09:41] <SubOne> I wanted to ask in case it is a known bug and possibly has a fix before i start searching for the bug/submitting one
[09:41] <DaSkreech> easytiger: Gnome is probably using it for something else
[09:41] <|ericsson|> DaSkreech: been using that package previously and it's been working on other machines, now it totals to ~70Mb size
[09:42] <|ericsson|> Could anyone tell me from the top of their heads how large mysql package would/should be?
[09:42] <|ericsson|> DaSkreech: I had a compromised system yesterday so I'm rather suspicious about everything right now ;)
[09:42] <jhutchins_wk> package selection could be better.  klaptopdaemon on a desktop?
[09:43] <jhutchins_wk> !info mysql
[09:43] <easytiger> i dunno. it used to work
[09:43] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:43] <dominic_> hi hi
[09:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> how do I know if im using arts, alsa, or oss?
[09:43] <jhutchins_wk> !info mysql-server
[09:43] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (meta package depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.38-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 84 kB
[09:43] <|ericsson|> lol@fat packages
[09:44] <|ericsson|> After unpacking 69.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:44] <dominic_> i love fat packages
[09:44] <dominic_> lmao
[09:44] <bobesponja> hey all
[09:44] <|ericsson|> now THAT'S called bad gzip compression ;)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> |ericsson|: Probably about 68 Megs
[09:44] <bobesponja> when I try to mount some media from media:/ I get: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[09:44] <bobesponja> how can I fix that?
[09:45] <dominic_> hey guys one question is there a linux os for pda?
[09:45] <|ericsson|> package size 46 kB, installed size 84 kB compared to my 69.7MB :)
[09:45] <jhutchins_wk> bobesponja: sudo mount?
[09:45] <dominic_> i loathe windows mobile, looking for alternativee os for phone..
[09:45] <DaSkreech> |ericsson|: You ignored the depedning on latest version ?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !info mysql-server-5.0
[09:46] <ubotu> mysql-server-5.0: mysql database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.38-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 25134 kB, installed size 67964 kB
[09:46] <bobesponja> jhutchins_wk: but I used to be able to do it from konqueror in edgy
[09:46] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, this is the SECOND time we've generated initrd, and complained that no RAID arrays are configured (single disk system).
[09:46] <|ericsson|> DaSkreech: I'll give it a go then.. ;)
[09:46] <pilar> Hi!
[09:47] <pilar> I have installed kubuntu feisty on my laptop
[09:47] <|ericsson|> Just feels like I've never installed such a fat mysql before, but sometime should be the first :)
[09:47] <vontux> does anybody use growisofs to burn dvd iso images?
[09:47] <pilar> it is an amd 64
[09:47] <pilar> but I cannot ear any sound
[09:47] <pilar> what can I do?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> !sound | pilar
[09:47] <ubotu> pilar: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:47] <vontux> !dvd
[09:48] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:48] <dominic_> did you solve you problem pilar about adept?
[09:48] <pilar> ey dominic_
[09:48] <freak10336> hello all
[09:48] <pilar> yes, I did it
[09:48] <pilar> thank you very much
[09:48] <dominic_> good, write that command incase it comes back, it will always come back....
[09:48] <|ericsson|> I'm curious, does anyone know if Alarm did get his USB-drive problem solved?
[09:48] <pilar> Now my problem is that I don't have sound at all
[09:49] <dominic_> whats your sound card?
[09:49] <pilar> I don't know
[09:50] <dominic_> do you have windows aside from linux? dual boot? you need to write down all your computer/laptop specs. lmao
[09:50] <kothz> !mp3
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <pilar> I have dual boot
[09:51] <pilar> windows in one partition and linux in another
[09:51] <vontux> does anyone know is your iso must be in a specific directory if burning an iso to dvd using growisofs?
[09:51] <jhutchins_wk> dominic_: See if you can identify the sound card in the output from sudo lspci in a konsole.
[09:51] <dominic_> go to windows, go to, start > Run > and type in dxdiag, and write down everything, video card and sound back.
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> wait
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> just type 'lshw' in the console
[09:51] <pilar> well, now I am on Kubuntu
[09:51] <jhutchins_wk> dominic_: No real need for that.
[09:51] <freak10336> i need to change my screen size from 800X600 to 1280x768, but in the settings pannel this is not an option
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> your audio card will be there
[09:52] <dominic_> well i always so anyhow guys... knowing your hardware and just look up the drivers in google is a lot better....
[09:52] <jhutchins_wk> dettoaltrimenti_: He'll want to use "sudo lshw | less" for that...
[09:52] <sparrw> I have a Xentera GT 4 video card with two Radeon Mobility 9000 GPUs.  Each GPU can drive two monitors (and/or one TV).  I can point the X.org vesa driver at PCI 6:1:0 and 6:2:0 and get two monitors plus two clones to work, but not 4 independent displays.  The old ATI proprietary driver might work, but it requires an older version of X.org than I have. The new ATI driver says i have no cards. Help?
[09:52] <dominic_> @freak, whats your graphics card?
[09:52] <pilar> MCP51 High Definition Audio
[09:53] <freak10336> vesa
[09:53] <Bedwyr> DaSkreech: It worked!
[09:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> you're the boss
[09:53] <DaSkreech> lfs-livecd ?
[09:53] <pilar> that's my sound-card
[09:53] <Bedwyr> DaSkreech: Yus
[09:53] <DaSkreech> :-) Scwheet
[09:53] <jhutchins_wk> Well, it seems to be finished at long last.  Time to reboot and clean up.
[09:53] <Bedwyr> Totally
[09:53] <freak10336> -dominic btw this is on a laptop (gateway mx3215)
[09:54] <dominic_> ok lets me search for that
[09:54] <pilar> ok
[09:54] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: easier is lshw -C audio
[09:55] <pilar> that command doesn't show me anything
[09:55] <DaSkreech> pilar: which command ?
[09:55] <pilar> lshw -C audio
[09:56] <DaSkreech> pilar: try sudo lshw -C multimedia
[09:56] <procrastinator_> Hmm, I don't mean to talk down to any KDE fanatics, but over the past few days I've switched to KDE from Gnome and I'm just curious if KDE typically crashes quite a bit.
[09:57] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: Depends
[09:57] <procrastinator_> I think I'm gonna switch back to Gnome at least until KDE 4 cause for me Gnome just works.
[09:57] <procrastinator_> Any ideas why I may be crashing so much?
[09:57] <pilar> now better
[09:57] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: probably some config file
[09:57] <procrastinator_> (Or information that could help?)
[09:57] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: try a new user and see if it still crashes
[09:58] <DaSkreech> pilar: Thats your Sound card
[09:58] <crweb> what happen to all the alternative sound engines for amarok?
[09:58] <DaSkreech> consolidated
[09:58] <procrastinator_> DaSkreech: If I haven't really changed anything from the default kubuntu install do you still think I should try a new user?
[09:58] <crweb> i need gstreamer engine so I can nas output?
[09:58] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: Sure
[09:58] <jhutchins_wk> Boy, enabling mdadm by default at boot time sure wastes time and resources.
[09:58] <vontux> does anyone know is your iso must be in a specific directory if burning an iso to dvd using growisofs?
[09:58] <DaSkreech> that lets you isolate your config from the actual application
[09:59] <pilar> MCP51 High Definition Audio
[09:59] <pilar> That's my sound card
[09:59] <procrastinator_> I really do love the graphics of KDE when compared to Gnome, but I just can't seem to get anything working.
[09:59] <dominic_> damn no luck
[10:00] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: This is an upgrade or a clean install ?
[10:00] <freak10336> alright thanks for trying
[10:00] <procrastinator_> DaSkreech: Clean install.
[10:00] <DaSkreech> procrastinator_: ok
[10:00] <bobesponja>  when I try to mount a media from media:/ in konqueror I get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" ,  is there something I need to chmod -s ?
[10:01] <bobesponja> anyone? :)
[10:01] <dominic_> i only found this freak. http://osdir.com/ml/linux.drivers.unichrome.user/2005-10/msg00009.html
[10:01] <dominic_> i looked up your graphics and its S3 UniChrome Pro Integrated Graphics Processor
[10:04] <dominic_> or this one freak, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=164
[10:05] <procrastinator_> Hmm, can anyone recommend a good general font to use?
[10:06] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: You mounted something as root?
[10:06] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: no I didn't
[10:06] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: I've just installed feisty on my pc
[10:07] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: and I hal seems broken
[10:07] <rr72> can i net install from a floppy?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: remove it and reinstall
[10:07] <DaSkreech> !netinstall
[10:07] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: hal?
[10:07] <procrastinator_> or rather is there anyway for icon names to stop wrapping
[10:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:07] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: Hmm that does sound deadly
[10:07] <procrastinator_> everything under System Settings is like
[10:07] <procrastinator_> Notificat
[10:07] <procrastinator_> ions
[10:08] <chris_> what can i do? i did download a rar data with a pw but i cant open it :-( ?
[10:08] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: Hmm works for me
[10:09] <rr72> can i install from a floppy?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> rr72: ^^^
[10:09] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: good for you :)
[10:09] <rr72> Daswhat?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: try a kdesu konqueror and see if you can media:/
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !netinstall | rr72
[10:09] <ubotu> rr72: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:09] <jhutchins_wk> rr72: I think you can still find boot floppy images under dosutils.
[10:10] <jhutchins_wk> rr72: Easier if you can boot from CD, use boot.iso
[10:10] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: yes it works, that's why I was asking if I should suid something
[10:11] <DaSkreech> I'm not versed on HAL what is calling hal-storage-fixed-mount ?
[10:11] <hakaisou> !flash
[10:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:11] <dominic_> brb guys
[10:12] <DaSkreech> bobesponja: I wouldn't think so. Just give your user rights to hal mounting
[10:12] <bobesponja> DaSkreech: but I don't know what program does the mounting
[10:13] <sdlnxgk> did anyone get a chance to read this yet??  http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html
[10:13] <chris_>  i did download a rar data with a pw but i cant open it :-( ? i did instal unrar but it dont worked :-( what must i do?
[10:14] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: What happens when you try to unrar it?
[10:14] <DaSkreech> chris_:  Check if unrar has a pw switch
[10:15] <DaSkreech> sdlnxgk: NO time no time. I'm late I'm late for a very important date
[10:15] <rr72> DaSkreech~ i don't think you can, i just want to put in one floppy that will start the install, not have to put in 5
[10:15] <sdlnxgk> Dell is gonna put Ubuntu Feisty fawn on there computers
[10:16] <vbgunz> did Kubuntu 7.04 install GVIM the text editor?
[10:16] <chris_> i did kubuntu in german i happen nothing i cant see a data ohne a windows "error ark beim ffnen des arichivs ist ein fehler aufgetreten "
[10:16] <chris_> how can i install the pw switch?
[10:17] <soulrider> chris_: try extracting it using the console
[10:17] <DaSkreech> rr72: I take it you don't have a CD Drive ?
[10:17] <rr72> DaSkreech~ i do
[10:17] <rr72> on this one
[10:17] <DaSkreech> chris_: Try man unrar
[10:17] <DaSkreech> rr72: get a mini iso then
[10:18] <rr72> DaSkreech~ if i do it that way i will have the latest packs
[10:18] <rr72> mini?
[10:18] <DaSkreech> yes
[10:18] <DaSkreech> netboot iso
[10:18] <chris_> ok i did
[10:18] <m0r7rey> Hi how to change languages in Kubuntu ??
[10:18] <m0r7rey> sorry i am new to Linux (3 day ) :)
[10:18] <soulrider> m0r7rey: :)
[10:18] <rr72> DaSkreech~ that was no where on the wiki page
[10:19] <soulrider> m0r7rey: open your control center
[10:19] <chris_> what must i do now?
[10:19] <m0r7rey> is this my shell :)'
[10:19] <DaSkreech> chris_: read and see if it has somethign about a password
[10:19] <soulrider> oh, youre using a console? not KDE ?
[10:19] <Bedwyr> DaSkreech: Thank you again for your help :D
[10:19] <DaSkreech> Bedwyr: Sure
[10:20] <m0r7rey> soulrider: from KDE i can open shell ?
[10:20] <soulrider> m0r7rey: you can open a console in KDE, yes
[10:20] <chris_> only " p [passwort]  set password
[10:21] <m0r7rey> soulrider: so can't i do this from there ?
[10:21] <soulrider> m0r7rey: i think you need to install the lang pack first, im not too sure of how to do it though
[10:21] <m0r7rey> i want to install bulgarian pack and then to put it as an applet
[10:21] <soulrider> m0r7rey: whats your native language ?
[10:21] <soulrider> oh
[10:21] <m0r7rey> i did this on ubuntu but now i can't :(
[10:21] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: i'm guessing bulgarian :P
[10:21] <soulrider> but you wanna change the keyboard layour or the text ?
[10:21] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: im gonna punch you :P
[10:21] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[10:21] <m0r7rey> i want to type in bulgarian
[10:21] <soulrider> ahh
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> skim?
[10:22] <soulrider> m0r7rey: go to your control panel
[10:22] <soulrider> then click on 'regional and accesibility'
[10:22] <m0r7rey> how i go to control panel ?
[10:22] <soulrider> and in 'keyboard layour' add bulgarian
[10:22] <m0r7rey> i am not using widows mate ?
[10:23] <soulrider> youre not inside KDE ?
[10:23] <rr72> @reverse racecar
[10:23] <ubotu> racecar
[10:23] <m0r7rey> i am
[10:23] <soulrider> rr72: its a palindrome
[10:23] <m0r7rey> but how to go into control panel :)
[10:23] <soulrider> k menu > control center
[10:23] <rr72> soulrider~ Mr. Owl ate my metal worm
[10:23] <m0r7rey> it's called system settings :)
[10:23] <soulrider> rr72: ' madam im adam'
[10:23] <m0r7rey> i found it :)
[10:24] <soulrider> ok
[10:24] <rr72> mines longer
[10:24] <soulrider> regial and language > keyboard layour
[10:24] <soulrider> layout
[10:24] <rr72> !netinstall > me
[10:24] <m0r7rey> yes find it :)
[10:24] <soulrider> :] 
[10:24] <m0r7rey> will try to see what happens now :)
[10:24] <soulrider> im gonna go back to study, bbl
[10:24] <m0r7rey> thanks a lot sorry for the lame questions :)
[10:24] <soulrider> lol
[10:24] <soulrider> were here to helpo
[10:24] <soulrider> ask as much as you want
[10:26] <cmon> Hallo
[10:26] <m0r7rey> soulrider: when i go there
[10:26] <m0r7rey> both bulgarian and english are highlighted
[10:27] <m0r7rey> meaning they were installed
[10:27] <m0r7rey> but i cannot choose bulgarian
[10:27] <m0r7rey> neither from install new language nor from add new language
[10:27] <Cugel> Can you people take a short look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/98688   and tell me if you experience the same problem? I like to feel not alone.
[10:28] <m0r7rey> ooooooooooooooo i found it :)
[10:28] <m0r7rey> i am so dumb :D
[10:28] <cmon> Question: is it OK to use the user password for the kwallet password as well? Or is it better to use a different one?
[10:28] <soulrider> did you click on 'enable keyboard layouts' ?
[10:28] <m0r7rey> i found it :)
[10:28] <m0r7rey> nevermind :)
[10:28] <soulrider> cmon: your call, i use the same one
[10:28] <cmon> ok thanks
[10:28] <soulrider> but if youre a bit paranoid, i would choose diferent ones:P
[10:28] <m0r7rey> btw love linux :) even though i will probably need 3-4 months just to get the basicS :D
[10:29] <soulrider> m0r7rey: ypu have a lot to learn, but the wiki is great
[10:29] <Cugel> I installed Win XP with VMware. It runs beautifully. Now I don't know what to do with it.
[10:29] <cmon> i'm not too much paranoide since linux is a safe system :-)
[10:29] <m0r7rey> now how can i added as an applet
[10:29] <soulrider> m0r7rey: i suggest you read http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions thats great for begginers
[10:29] <soulrider> m0r7rey: you should see a flag in your tray, you can click it to change languages
[10:29] <nbogdanoff> any other GUI IM clients besides Gaim and Kopete worth checking out?!??
[10:30] <m0r7rey> no i don't see it
[10:30] <soulrider> m0r7rey: if you have more than one layour selected, it shoul appear
[10:30] <hakaisou> !flash64
[10:30] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:30] <hakaisou> !flash
[10:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:31] <m0r7rey> i dont know when i go to layouts
[10:31] <m0r7rey> and when i put bulgarian in and click apply
[10:31] <m0r7rey> the buttons go hollow
[10:31] <m0r7rey> and nothing happens
[10:31] <m0r7rey> then i close it go back again and bulgarian is not added ?
[10:33] <dominic_> lol
[10:36] <dominic_> where would i find the KDE theme manager?
[10:37] <dominic_> whats the command?
[10:37] <Cugel> kcontrol.
[10:37] <dominic_> ok cool thanks
[10:37] <Cugel> It's there among all the options.
[10:38] <desktopfx> Hey All - Does kubuntu 7.04 have support for AIGLX or COMPIZ desktop managers? (The big 3D desktop cube)
[10:38] <cmon> Creating a link to harddisk (on the desktop) does not work...it says mounting failed but this cannot be true.....anyone the same problem?
[10:38] <dominic_> i have one more question but, ill ask it later, leaving....
[10:38] <Cugel> what does 'mount' tell you? Is it there?
[10:38] <mehdi> some one now a dvd player like power dvd in linux
[10:39] <Cugel> mehdi: well Kaffeine does the job, and VLC...
[10:39] <hakaisou> !gnash
[10:39] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[10:40] <cmon> it says it's already mounted...
[10:40] <cmon> but I want it to open a konqueror window..
[10:40] <mehdi> a can't chose object from the dvd menu with kaffeine Cugel
[10:42] <desktopfx> Anyone? - AIGLX or COMPIZ, is it there at _all_?
[10:42] <Cugel> desktop: answer, NO.
[10:43] <Cugel> You'll have to install the packages yourself.
[10:43] <Cugel> Annoyed me too.
[10:43] <desktopfx> Cheers Cugel. Thanks.
[10:43] <desktopfx> Wait a sec - is it on the dvd as opposed to the cd?
[10:43] <desktopfx> probaly... not?
[10:43] <desktopfx> *probably
[10:44] <desktopfx> I'll scour the forums. Thanks anyway.
[10:58] <levon> anyone know if k9copy is as fast as shinkdvd?
[10:59] <levon> right now on a windows computer i can back up my dvds in about 15 minutes with dvd shrink
[11:00] <levon> 3 ghz computer 512 ddr and 16x sony burner dual layer support <--------------my computer specs
[11:00] <cmon> "back up" DVDs ? ;-)
[11:00] <levon> yep my cousins mess them up
[11:01] <cmon> ok ;-)
[11:01] <levon> scratch them and break them all sorts of stuff
[11:01] <cmon> that's funny with her
[11:01] <levon> cmon do you know if k9copy is as fast as dvdshrink?
[11:02] <cmon> no sorry.....i don't know....but why don't you simply try it out?
[11:02] <crweb> don't you lose quality with dvdshrink?
[11:02] <levon> naw
[11:02] <levon> quality is the same
[11:02] <crweb> oh really?
[11:02] <levon> as far as i can see and i get my movies done in about 15 minutes
[11:03] <Skyblast> It depends on how much it has to recompress
[11:03] <levon> 16 x burner dual layer sony and i have 512 ddr and 3 ghz computer
[11:03] <crweb> well the human eye is hardly powerful enough to really see loss of quality
[11:03] <levon> skyblast i dont compress it
[11:03] <Skyblast> If it's a full 8 gig DVD 9 you will lose a ton of quality
[11:03] <levon> i just take off copy protection so i can burn it
[11:04] <levon> to back it up
[11:04] <crweb> levon: if you're not compressing then it can only be as fast as your reader
[11:04] <crweb> has nothing to do with the software
[11:04] <crweb> and 15minutes seems a little slow for a pure rip
[11:04] <levon> crweb im decrypting it
[11:04] <crweb> so?
[11:04] <levon> so it copys the movie to hard drive
[11:04] <levon> then i burn it over
[11:04] <crweb> yeah, i got that
[11:04] <levon> :)
[11:05] <levon> takes 15 minutes
[11:05] <crweb> "which does seem a little slow"
[11:05] <levon> well tell you the true its on father in laws computer 1.9 ghz and 16x sony 256 ddr
[11:05] <levon> so im sure that would make a diffrence
[11:06] <levon> mine on the other hand is the spec 3 ghz 16x sony 512 ddr
[11:06] <crweb> decrypting is trivial
[11:06] <crweb> your only limiters are your reader, and your hard drive i/o
[11:06] <levon> i was just trying to see if k9copy was about as fat
[11:06] <levon> fast*
[11:07] <levon> not fat lo
[11:07] <levon> lol
[11:09] <levon> aright ill just run shrink with wine thanks for the input ive made my desision
[11:10] <crweb> you could just try it?
[11:10] <ruben> hi!!!
[11:10] <ruben> hello?
[11:11] <Cugel> Hello. We are waiting for you.
[11:11] <ruben> ohhhh, really?
[11:11] <Cugel> Yeah.
[11:11] <crweb> yeah, look out side
[11:11] <ruben> how are u?
[11:12] <crweb> see me waving?
[11:12] <ruben> I can't speak english
[11:13] <sinequanon> hi all.  I've updated a box to feisty and now i can't boot normally.  I *am* able to boot in single user mode, but when using my normal settings, the box stops doing anything while printing messages from the kernel - I'm left with a dead console.
[11:13] <sinequanon> anybody have any ideas?
[11:13] <ruben> I can speak spanish
[11:13] <cmon> hey I want to install XEmacs.....what package should I use ? basesupport, mule, ... ? Are there also localized files?
[11:18] <tom_> hi all can i get direct rendering on multiple x sessions with the intel 950 gma?
[11:20] <mc__> tom_: of course
[11:20] <mc__> in slideshow mode :P
[11:20] <tom_> mc__: slideshow mode??
[11:21] <mc__> tom_: slow...
[11:21] <InToSSH> Please running the Kubuntu 7.04 version AMD64 , on the Intel EM64T CPU?
[11:21] <InToSSH> I am beginner
[11:22] <weswh-> i've got some sort of 'image tearing' when I play videos on my 1680x1050 res monitor full screen. when i play them on my 1280x1024 (nvidia twinview setup) there isn't any tearing. 1680x1050 is DVI, 1280 is VGA...any ideas?
[11:22] <mat1980> !spanish | ruben
[11:22] <ubotu> ruben: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:22] <weswh-> it isn't unwatchable...but, pretty annoying. happens pretty consistently when there is lots of movement
[11:22] <tom_> mc__ is there a workaround?
[11:22] <mc__> tom_: yeah,just buy a faste graphics card
[11:22] <tom_> mc__ : lol on a laptop?
[11:23] <mc__> tom_: you can exchange the GPU on some laptops
[11:23] <tom_> mc__ really?
[11:23] <mc__> tom_: but tha gma950 is simply to slow for that stuff
[11:23] <mc__> tom_: yes,but only a few laptopps allow it
[11:23] <tom_> mc__ it works fine for beryl/compiz, runs ut2004 as well on modest gfx :D
[11:24] <mc__> really? using AIGLX or XGL?
[11:24] <adaptr> kubuntudo's for the brevity of that discussion
[11:24] <tom_> mc__ aiglx, perfect, better than my 9800/xgl in fact
[11:25] <mc__> ati sucks anyway on linux...
[11:25] <tom_> mc__ lol true
[11:25] <Arwen> mc__, yep...
[11:25] <mc__> sad but very true
[11:25] <tom_> mc__ but the intel is a good card for desktop use and basic games, i like it
[11:26] <mc__> i never had a intel
[11:26] <InToSSH> Excause me, running the Kubuntu 7.04 version AMD64 on the Intel EM64T CPU?
[11:26] <mc__> but nvidia  works great too
[11:26] <tom_> mc__ intel open spec :P
[11:26] <Arwen> InToSSH, is there a question there somewhere?
[11:26] <mc__> InToSSH: yes its possible
[11:26] <Maximiliano_adl> hi
[11:26] <jaims> hello
[11:26] <InToSSH> mc__: THX
[11:27] <jaims> I'm looking a hint about a problem with smb
[11:27] <aldin> hi, how can i change name of my ethernet interface, e.g. eth0 -> eth4
[11:27] <jaims> looking for i mean
[11:27] <mc__> jaims: just ask you question mate
[11:27] <jaims> k, here we go
[11:27] <sercik> hi
[11:28] <Arwen> Intel runs faster than any ATI card on Linux... and that's *really* sad
[11:28] <nuu> aldin: ethernet interfaces are numbered according to the order in which they're discovered during hardware scan
[11:28] <jaims> kubuntu edgy, when i put files to an xp it gets very slow
[11:28] <jaims> and eventually stops
[11:28] <tom_> so noone can get me direct rendering on my :1 x session?
[11:28] <Arwen> jager, English.... and what's "an xp"?
[11:28] <nuu> but the question i really want to ask is: why !?
[11:28] <mc__> Arwen: even than the high end ones?
[11:28] <aldin> nuu: but i had wlan0 and now it is eth1
[11:28] <jaims> and then restarts, slows down, and stops
[11:28] <Arwen> mc__, yeah, limited by driver
[11:28] <jager> what?
[11:28] <jaims> all the  time
[11:28] <jaims> xp i mean windows xp
[11:28] <nuu> oh, that's to be done with iwconfig iirc
[11:28] <jaims> :)
[11:28] <jager> oh
[11:28] <jager> nm
[11:28] <mc__> Arwen: omfg
[11:28] <nuu> methinks at least
[11:28] <nuu> ask around for more info
[11:29] <Arwen> mc__, note: talking about r200/300/400 driver
[11:29] <tom_> arwen: ati closed source drivers do run faster than intel, ther just crap lol
[11:29] <premier_> hello, I'm using Konversation at in a university dorm.  My school has some restrictive internets policies, and I think they bloked most irc's.  I'm able to log into freenode, but only using port 6666, not the default 6667. When I do log in at home, it works fine, but not a school.  Can someone suggest a workaround, or help me find one?
[11:29] <Arwen> tom_, yep....
[11:30] <tom_> arwen: hmm im not convinced, my 9800 ran pretty fast with the r300
[11:30] <soulrider> premier_: im not sure, maybe you can talk to a net admin and ask them why you cant join irc ?
[11:30] <Arwen> tom_, heh....
[11:30] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[11:31] <Arwen> premier_, TOR
[11:31] <jaims> the problem is with samba, i presume
[11:31] <tom_> arwen: faster then th intel, not by loads though
[11:31] <Arwen> tom_, yeah :-\
[11:31] <InToSSH> Can I use the Compiz with ATI X1600? I had Mandrive and drivers not running.
[11:31] <premier_> Arwen: TOR?  what does that stand for?
[11:31] <jaims> using konqueror against a url like smb://198.162.0.3/sharedfolder
[11:31] <tom_> arwen lol
[11:31] <Arwen> !info tor | premier_
[11:31] <ubotu> premier_: tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.26-1 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[11:31] <jaims> retrieving files works fine
[11:31] <tom_> tom aggrees with arwen :D
[11:32] <Arwen> yeah, the 7600GT is the best value out there but it's still $100...
[11:32] <jaims> but copying files to the winxp machine works too slow...
[11:32] <premier_> Arwen: so what does it do?
[11:32] <tom_> i just want beryll on another kde session lol!
[11:32] <Arwen> premier_, exactly what the description said it did
[11:32] <Arwen> premier_, http://tor.eff.org if you need more explanation
[11:33] <Arwen> tom_, lol, I'm not sure if you can get glx on 2 servers
[11:33] <dwidmann> ack! my dpkg is broken :(
[11:33] <tom_> arwen: grrrrrr
[11:33] <Arwen> tom_, unless, are you using dual-head?
[11:33] <tom_> arwen: no, still my laptop
[11:33] <Arwen> dunno then
[11:34] <Arwen> I think you can only have glx on one display
[11:34] <tom_> arwen kk
[11:34] <tom_> arwen thats pretty crap
[11:34] <Arwen> tom_, hehe, it's the same no matter what card...
[11:34] <tom_> arwen is it a technical limitation? or have the xorg devs jus not bothered lol
[11:35] <Arwen> physical limitation
[11:35] <Arwen> cards only have one framebuffer usually
[11:35] <premier_> arwen: wont this kinda this slow down my internet or do some other annoying things?
[11:35] <tom_> arwen ah
[11:35] <Arwen> premier_, it will increase your latency and decrease your average throughput yes...
[11:35] <Arwen> it's pretty non-intrusive though
[11:36] <tom_> arwen cant xorg just create 2 virtual fb's in ram, then copy one or the other over when x session is switched?
[11:36] <Arwen> tom_, don't ask me... I'm not a dev
[11:36] <dominic_> ok about my question...... anyone know bout to use usplash?
[11:36] <tom_> arwen lol kk, ill take this higher in the tree!
[11:37] <Arwen> dominic_, proper grammar and spelling have their virtues...
[11:37] <dominic_> fine sorry sensei arwen.... god... sorry im multi-tassking its my sisters birthday and im somewhat cooking alright....
[11:38] <Arwen> dominic_, explain what you mean by "use usplash"
[11:38] <dominic_> why do you have to go that far... USE PROPER GRAMMAR? and SPELLING?
[11:38] <cmon> I have to go, bye!
[11:38] <Arwen> !capslock | Dodger73
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capslock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <Arwen> ...
[11:39] <Arwen> !caps | dominic_
[11:39] <ubotu> dominic_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:39] <dominic_> how to use it..... i want a different bootsplash... and i don't know how too
[11:39] <stdin> !usplash | dominic_
[11:39] <ubotu> dominic_: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:39] <Arwen> dominic_, ^^
[11:39] <Arwen> :-)
[11:40] <dwidmann> any thoughts on this one? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18866/
[11:40] <dominic_> yes. thank you ubotu... but the bootsplash theme that i have. only contains jpeg and config.cfg... its not in any .so format or whatever so...
[11:41] <Arwen> dominic_, read the link, you have to build a .so
[11:42] <stdin> dwidmann: try just removing (or moving) the file, dpkg should make a new one then
[11:42] <nuu> dwidmann: dpkg --clear-avail
[11:42] <dwidmann> stdin: that's what I thought too, then it just changes from complaining about an error, to complaining about file does not exist
[11:42] <jaims> bye all
[11:43] <nuu> afterwards, re-run apt-get update
[11:43] <stdin> or try dpkg --update-avail ?
[11:43] <epimeth> if you all will please allow me a moment of ecstacy:
[11:43] <dominic_> ok...... what program does KDE-Look.org use to install bootsplash?
[11:43] <epimeth> YES!!!! I GOT SOUND W00TTTTT!!!!111oneoneone
[11:44] <nuu> stdin: update-avail wants a package list file as input
[11:44] <dwidmann> nuu: you're awesome, it seems to have worked
[11:44] <nuu> glad it helped
[11:44] <epimeth> compiled my own drivers and everything :-)
[11:44] <stdin> nuu: there are plenty in /var/lib/apt/lists
[11:45] <nuu> why not letting apt-get handle the re-populating chores ? :)
[11:45] <nuu> furthermore, it'll handle all your repositories at once
[11:46] <epimeth> so here's a question... why don't mp3s work in amarok?  I installed ubuntu restricted extras?
[11:46] <nuu> secondly, afaik dpkg-update wont kill the current file, but update its obsolescent data
[11:46] <JohnFlux> !mp3 | epimeth
[11:46] <ubotu> epimeth: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <nuu> so in case your screwup happens to be amidst a bunch of up-to-date packages, it wont get corrected
[11:47] <nuu> i vote for clear and regenerate :P
[11:47] <dwidmann> and it seems it still has the whole list again now, soooooo, that's definitely the way to go I suppose
[11:47] <epimeth> JohnFlux: oh... heh... missed that second bit :-)
[11:48] <nuu> dwidmann :)
[11:48] <stdin> epimeth: just install libxine1-ffmpeg (feisty) in main, or libxine-extracodecs (edgy/dapper) in multiverse
[11:49] <dwidmann> I wonder why it messed up and/or corrupted to begin with though.
[11:50] <nuu> that can happen everywhere. i've had this happen to me on RHEL production servers too, where the very rpm database was foobarred
[11:51] <dwidmann> true
[11:51] <nuu> same goes with fedora core boxes, and, believe it or not, registry screwup also happens on MS Windows!
[11:51] <nuu> :P
[11:51] <dwidmann> gee, I never would have guessed :P
[11:51] <nuu> i know buddy, i was baffled as well
[11:59] <animimotus> hi
[11:59] <dwidmann> hi
[11:59] <animimotus> why this line list me all python in deposit : aptitude search python |grep "i   "    ?
[12:02] <yung_> anybody use pulseaudio as sound server ?
[12:02] <nuu> animimotus: aptitude will search for packages whose name contains python
[12:03] <nuu> then you pipe that output to grep, which is a way to include/exclude certain text/regexp patterns from the input it's being launched upon/piped from
[12:04] <nuu> the pattern at hand is "i   " which incidentally represents a pattern typically appearing in the first column in your aptitude output, which in turn represents the install status for the given package
[12:04] <nuu> i, specifically, means installed
[12:04] <nuu> mystery solved
[12:04] <premier_> how do I change the password for the kde wallet?
[12:05] <animimotus> nuu: yes i want have the package list installed for python
[12:05] <animimotus> on my ubuntu
[12:05] <nuu> animimotus: try dpkg --list *python*
[12:07] <animimotus> nuu: so with a : dpkg --list *python* | grep ii          it seems work :)
[12:07] <nuu> or, if you want a more fine-grained search, do a dpkg --list | grep -i python
[12:07] <animimotus> workds too
[12:07] <animimotus> thx nuu :)
[12:07] <nuu> np
[12:09] <nuu> incidentally, escaping the stars (\*) will lead to more concrete results
[12:09] <nuu> listing uninstalled packages too
[12:09] <nuu> at that point you may want to filter by grepping for "ii"
[12:09] <nuu> anyway, you get the point
[12:10] <nuu> same goes with "*pyth*" if you dont like escaping
[12:10] <nuu> someone stop me, please
[12:11] <Markeda> Um, I'm having a bit of an issue with installing. Namely, I can't do it.
[12:12] <Markeda> I try to use Adept and I try with the whole apt-get thing, but it gives errors, and when I try to do the ./configure stuff with unzipped tar.gz files, I get no file found errors.
[12:12] <gbm> hi!
[12:13] <gbm> is there any way to make a hard disk chek
[12:13] <Markeda> Is there anything a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.04 needs to install something, or am I just showing how much of a clueless newb I am?
[12:13] <gbm> i suspect my kubuntu freezes pecause worng things in hd the standard check says ok