[12:42] <MugginsM> mmm, hot kernel 2.6.22 action
[01:35] <ToHellWithGA> did the xfce base package get updated before any of its dependencies were built?
[01:35] <ToHellWithGA> i've noticed apt holding it back for a few days
[02:23] <Amaranth> eh?
[02:23] <Amaranth> oh, 2.6.21 bug
[04:45] <smallfoot-> http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3686/psakittymk8.jpg
[07:35] <Yggdrasil> darn,
[07:35] <Yggdrasil> my firefox is broken, can somne help ?
[07:39] <someothernick> broken?
[07:40] <Yggdrasil> ehm sorry
[07:40] <Yggdrasil> yggdrasil@Nikita:~$ firefox cnn.com
[07:40] <Yggdrasil> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/firefox/components/libmyspell.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc
[07:41] <Tm_T> Yggdrasil: in Gutsy?
[07:41] <Yggdrasil> tm_t yes
[07:41] <Tm_T> interesting
[07:41] <Yggdrasil> yea
[07:41] <Yggdrasil> i lookedi tup
[07:41] <Tm_T> and yet somehow expected
[07:42] <crdlb> Yggdrasil: you could just nix that file, (and lose spellcheck)
[07:42] <Yggdrasil> A temporary fix has been found. For some reason, my version of libhunspell-1.1-0 was 1.1.5-6, and it should be 1.1.4-7.
[07:42] <crdlb> I'd think ff would still work
[07:42] <Yggdrasil> i tried, that and it will say segmentation fault
[07:43] <crdlb> what's the point in running gutsy this early?
[07:43] <Tm_T> crdlb: no idea
[07:43] <Yggdrasil> my acpid was broken
[07:43] <Yggdrasil> so i was hoping it would miraculously get fixed
[07:43] <Yggdrasil> haha
[07:44] <Yggdrasil> it was a truly a last resort for that
[07:44] <Yggdrasil> and so i was planning on just reinstalling soon
[07:44] <Yggdrasil> as much as i hate doing that
[07:44] <smallfoot-> http://openclipart.org/people/Frap/Frap_Freedom_flag.svg the HD-DVD processing key is embedded in the image, as color codes on the flag
[07:46] <Yggdrasil> haha
[07:46] <smallfoot-> :D
[07:46] <smallfoot-> image is in public domain
[07:46] <smallfoot-> display it anywhere :d
[07:46] <smallfoot-> or everywher :d
[07:46] <Yggdrasil> people will probobly think your a gay person
[07:47] <Yggdrasil> ok thanks
[09:09] <DanaG> Oh hey, I see repos already have gutsy dirs.
[09:09] <DanaG> Hmm.
[09:09] <DanaG> Is there anything worth trying yet?
[09:10] <DanaG> Oh, and if people need internet2 sources:
[09:10] <DanaG> http://mirror.cs.utah.edu/
[09:10] <DanaG> http://san1.csc.calpoly.edu
[09:16] <RAOF> DanaG: Pretty much just the toolchain's in now.
[09:18] <DanaG> aah.
[09:19] <RAOF> There's a bunch of other stuff, but Sid still hasn't been merged in :)
[09:20] <DanaG> One thing I wish: I wish there were fbsplash support packages -- even if you put them in Universe or Multiverse and don't include the patch in the kernel, it'd make it a heck of a lot easier to DIY later.
[09:20] <RAOF> Well... you could package them
[09:21] <DanaG> There are some packages, but they don't entirely work.
[09:21] <DanaG> For example, I had to put bash and grep and sed and awk in my initramfs.
[09:23] <DanaG> And all the best themes seem to be Debian-logo themes, rather than Ubuntu themes.
[09:23] <DanaG> That part I can do myself -- screenshot GDM and use GIMP and a text editor.
[09:23] <RAOF> Hm.  It presumably doesn't *need* sad & awk & grep & bash to run, right?
[09:25] <DanaG> It has a script that's a wrapper from usplash_write to fbsplash.
[09:26] <RAOF> Oh.  And that can't all be pre-processed?
[09:26] <DanaG> I don't know; I didn't make it.  I can dig up the repo I used.  This time I have a combination of two:
[09:27] <DanaG> trevinho's suspend2, and this: http://jeandamiendurand.free.fr/debian/splashutils/
[09:41] <Hobbsee> DanaG: a lot breaks
[09:42] <DanaG> It ends up saying "/sbin_usplash_write: not found"
[09:43] <DanaG> But that was the one thing I really truly missed from SuSE:
[09:43] <DanaG> Great coherence from Grub to Bootsplash to GDM/KDM to Gnome or KDE.
[09:47] <Hobbsee> DanaG: add it?
[09:47] <Hobbsee> DanaG: figure out how, adn add it?
[09:49] <DanaG> hUH? sorry, I stopped paying attention for a while.
[09:50] <Hobbsee> [17:43]  <DanaG> But that was the one thing I really truly missed from SuSE:
[09:50] <Hobbsee> [17:43]  <DanaG> Great coherence from Grub to Bootsplash to GDM/KDM to Gnome or KDE.
[09:50] <Hobbsee> add it to ubuntu
[09:52] <RAOF> DanaG: You could try out Grub2 for me.  Does it actually work? :) That'd help!
[09:52] <crimsun> what, it's not there by default?  But that's hard! </barbie>
[09:53] <DanaG> I found one thing to do: make a splash theme that matches the GDM theme.
[09:53] <DanaG> However, it needs the existing spec of "usplashtoGDM" to be implemented.
[09:53] <DanaG> er, the "don't kill usplash."
[09:53] <RAOF> Until X is up.
[09:59] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I've noticed one cool thing usplash does that fbsplash doesn
[09:59] <DanaG> that fbsplash doesn't: images for the progress bar.
[10:17] <DanaG> heh, gusty.  I still can't help thinking that.
[10:17] <DanaG> I hope people come out with some good wallpapers
[10:18] <ajmorris_> yeah i keep thinking gusty too
[10:18] <ajmorris_> lol
[10:23] <DanaG> Well, at least it's not busty.  To me, I see busty, I think, "oh, that person must have back pain".
[10:24] <DanaG> Though that's way more off-topic.
[12:13] <Trixsey> Hey, I tried 2.6.20-15 and activated the prop. driver (I have a Radeon X700) in System>Restricted>RDM.. after reboot my screen just died.. what do I do? had to go back to -14 to get in again
[12:14] <Hobbsee> Trixsey: gutsy?
[12:15] <Trixsey> I think gutsy and feisty are pretty much the same at this point? :/
[12:15] <RAOF> No, not really.
[12:19] <Trixsey> What do you guys do when you build a distro anyway? Isn't it basically only testing compability between packets and stuff like that?
[12:22] <Hobbsee> Trixsey: merging stuff from debian, syncing it from debian, doing our own stuff, testing lots of it out, fixing bugs, getting pacakges from other upstream sites (eg, gnome, kde, xfce, $petappinrepos), etc
[12:23] <RAOF> Importantly, there's a new kernel in Gutsy.
[12:23] <Trixsey> oh
[12:23] <Trixsey> which one?
[12:24] <RAOF> 2.6.22 git
[12:25] <crdlb> (ie don't even think of using it on a production machine :) )
[12:25] <Trixsey> nah
[12:25] <Trixsey> I used Feisty in the alphas
[12:25] <Trixsey> was bothersome at times
[12:26] <Trixsey> and when I did a dist upgrade all annoying stuff I took time to remove came back
[12:26] <RAOF> Gutsy isn't even alpha yet.  It hasn't finished being sync'd from debain.
[12:26] <crdlb> I'm nervous about running kernels until a couple into the 2.6.x.y releases
[12:29] <Trixsey> whats new in 2.6.22?
[12:29] <Trixsey> :0
[12:30] <crdlb> 2.6.21 has tickless kernel support, whatever that is :)
[12:33] <Trixsey> let me get this straight
[12:33] <Trixsey> a kernel is the OS core?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> ah...yes.   that's probably a godo description
[02:20] <Trixsey> I tried using System>Administration>RDM and activated my prop. driver for my Radeon X700. When it starts up the screen goes black and strange orange lines are on it! Any ideas?
[02:24] <shirish> guys there were two issues while doing update
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Trixsey: wouldnt suprise me if it was utterly broken for gutsy
[02:24] <shirish> Failed to stat - stat (No such file or directory)
[02:24] <shirish> Hobbsee: hey there :)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> hi shirish
[02:25] <shirish> another one ldconfig - /usr/lib/libgcj.bc.so.  it has the wrong magic bytes at the start
[02:26] <shirish> where do I report this, I know there is some thread, but just unable to find it?
[02:26] <Hobbsee> shirish: wouldnt bother yet.  no sane developer is actually running feisty on their machine
[02:26] <Hobbsee> shirish: everything's being merged
[02:26] <Hobbsee> report it if it's not fixed in say...3 weeks?
[02:26] <shirish> ok cool no issues
[02:27] <Hobbsee> no sane user should be either - as in, it's pointless...
[02:27] <Hobbsee> but they can do as they like
[02:27] <shirish> true, I am doing it in a VM mode
[02:27] <shirish> VM=Virtual Machine
[02:27] <Hobbsee> same applies
[02:28] <Hobbsee> although VM is a bit better
[02:28] <shirish> true
[02:28] <shirish> Hobbsee: do u know how I can delete a wiki page I made? Is there a way to delete or no?
[02:28] <shirish> I know that's outside the scope of this room/channel
[02:29] <Hobbsee> probably.  i'm not sure
[02:31] <Toma-> is the gutsy kernel stable for use?
[02:32] <Toma-> im recompiling one for feisty and noticed the gutsy option in the git guide..
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Toma-: no
[02:32] <Toma-> mkay thanks
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Toma-: until gutsy is stable, the gutsy kernel is nto stable.
[02:33] <Toma-> hmm.
[02:33] <Toma-> i think i might just stick to good ol apt-get source linux-source
[02:33] <Hobbsee> smart
[02:35] <Toma-> you'd think the source package would be a ~60mb tar.gz
[02:37] <Toma-> ahh there we go.
[03:03] <Toma-> Not all files in /linux-source/debian/bin are set as executable... is that expected behaviour?
[07:28] <pidgas> most recent updates have broken my openoffice and firefox, anyone else having problems?
[08:39] <pidgas> If I start openoffice writer and begin typing, openoffice crashes in about 3 keystrokes.  It also crashes if I try to open a document in it.  Firefox crashes when I try to paste text into it and seems to crash suddenly when I navigate to a particular page on my drupal website.  This has all started happening within the last 24-36 hours with gutsy updates.  Anyone else having problems?
[08:40] <ikonia> #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <tsmithe> anyone else suffering bug 111886?
[11:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111886 in myspell "[Gutsy]   undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111886