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| nothlit | Hey-- @ any of you guys who haven't seen the mailing list in the last few days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme | 04:56 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | hey nothlit | 05:13 |
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| troy_s | nothlit: So yes... perhaps abandoning the Gibbon inspiration is a key bit of progress? | 05:22 |
| troy_s | nothlit: What would work as a nice embodiment for the release in terms of a simple singular term? | 05:23 |
| nothlit | most single words are overdone and cliched though | 05:24 |
| troy_s | Well then let's avoid those too. | 05:24 |
| nothlit | BHSPitMonkey: hey | 05:24 |
| troy_s | I think avoiding the cliches is pretty important (despite the fact that Ubuntu's most cliched motifs have yet to be fully enunciated to the mainstream audience in a successful manner) | 05:24 |
| nothlit | In terms of words that would go with the color scheme I'm imagining now? calm and productive | 05:27 |
| nothlit | if you go with release name, warm and playful (if you're really gutsy--'punchy') | 05:28 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Try the reverse -- work on a communication goal relative to your audience | 05:30 |
| troy_s | nothlit: And have a look for palettes that work towards achieving that. | 05:31 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Trying to use a palette and reverse engineering communication is pretty tricky. | 05:31 |
| troy_s | nothlit: For example, one of my favorite palettes of all time was Dirk Uhlenbrock's | 05:32 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Sorry it was David Lincoln's palette.. | 05:32 |
| troy_s | nothlit: It is an awsome collection of 11 colors | 05:33 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Completely taken from a study of photographs of accident victims and cadavers. | 05:33 |
| troy_s | "Deadly Color" | 05:34 |
| troy_s | Trauma Coral: 252.116.72 | 05:34 |
| troy_s | Putre-Taupe: 130.107.65 | 05:34 |
| troy_s | Black: 0.0.0 | 05:34 |
| troy_s | Livor Lavender 178.124.174 | 05:34 |
| troy_s | Adipic Gold 246.151.50 | 05:35 |
| troy_s | Livor Verdigris: 65.91.54 | 05:35 |
| troy_s | Livor Gray: 107.122.109 | 05:35 |
| troy_s | Trauma Red: 225.32.7 | 05:35 |
| troy_s | Cadaver Yellow: 238.207.114 | 05:36 |
| troy_s | Cavity Maroon: 82.16.12 | 05:36 |
| troy_s | Viscera Cyan: 77.170.172 | 05:36 |
| troy_s | TC: The color of skin surrounding a stab wound. | 05:36 |
| troy_s | PT: Mushroomy color of skin an tissues in advanced putrefaction. | 05:36 |
| troy_s | BHSPitMonkey: Color of total and utter putrefaction of human tissues. | 05:37 |
| troy_s | LL: Color of very early putrefaction seen one to two days after death. | 05:37 |
| nothlit | how gruesome | 05:37 |
| troy_s | AG: Color of human fat immediately under the skin. | 05:37 |
| troy_s | LV: Gray Green of liveor mortis. | 05:37 |
| BHSPitMonkey | was that an insult? | 05:37 |
| troy_s | LG: Blue gray of earlies livor mortis, occuring before lior verdigris. | 05:38 |
| troy_s | Trae: The color of fresh oxygenated blood. | 05:38 |
| troy_s | CY: Human skin after the blood has left it. | 05:38 |
| troy_s | CM: The color of unoxygenated blood and tissue deep within the body cavity. | 05:38 |
| troy_s | VC: The amazing color of healthy human lungs and intestines. | 05:38 |
| troy_s | LOL | 05:38 |
| troy_s | NOW THAT'S A COMMUNICATIVE PALETTE | 05:38 |
| troy_s | lol | 05:38 |
| nothlit | BHSPitMonkey: he meant Black, its just the autocompletion prolly | 05:39 |
| BHSPitMonkey | (I know) | 05:39 |
| troy_s | LOL | 05:39 |
| troy_s | sorry BHSPitMonkey I hit tab | 05:39 |
| troy_s | lol | 05:39 |
| troy_s | lol | 05:39 |
| troy_s | apologies! | 05:39 |
| troy_s | LOL. | 05:39 |
| troy_s | Anyways, it shows you two things: | 05:39 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I've never been described so vividly and yet so harshly before. | 05:39 |
| troy_s | 1) That palette is a critical element of design. | 05:40 |
| troy_s | 2) That a _real_ palette isn't a smattering of all hues across a given value set. | 05:40 |
| troy_s | 3) That a palette should be SELECTIVE in colour, and work towards the ultimate communication goal (at the given audience) | 05:40 |
| troy_s | and perhaps most importantly, all elements that Ubuntu's clueless design pattern fails to grasp or even begin to understand. | 05:42 |
| darkmatter | clueless is a wee bit of an understatement | 06:06 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Amen | 06:14 |
| troy_s | Throw k in there too. | 06:14 |
| darkmatter | :) | 06:16 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: I sincerely hope Diana's work kicks the crap out of the scene and garners much deserved attention. | 06:22 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, thats the fedora stuff, correct? | 06:23 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Yes. Diana Fong MFA | 06:24 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: A true process and a true result. | 06:24 |
| darkmatter | yes... her work is gorgeous | 06:24 |
| troy_s | She has been pushing more and more | 06:24 |
| troy_s | and despite being bullied by several longstanding 'factions', her work is simply awsome. | 06:24 |
| troy_s | I am pretty certain that certain factions of the community don't want to be displaced by folks like her. | 06:25 |
| darkmatter | indeed it is. I dl'd the redhat artwork just so I could get mypaws on the flying high art | 06:26 |
| troy_s | Absolutely. | 06:27 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: On a side note, you watching the digg drama? | 06:28 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: It is awsome. | 06:28 |
| darkmatter | yeah.. on and off | 06:28 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: It is _really_ amazing right now | 06:31 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Watching the burning of a billion dollar empire in about 60 minutes. | 06:31 |
| troy_s | crazy | 06:31 |
| darkmatter | yup | 06:32 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Here is some very well communicated design: | 07:16 |
| troy_s | http://dynamic.media.adrevolver.com/adrevolver/banner/57719.gif | 07:16 |
| troy_s | Can you spot an audience? | 07:16 |
| troy_s | lol | 07:16 |
| darkmatter | lol | 07:24 |
| darkmatter | yup | 07:24 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: If you are interested | 07:32 |
| troy_s | www.asicsdesigncompetition.com | 07:32 |
| darkmatter | looking | 07:32 |
| darkmatter | hmm.. interesting | 07:33 |
| darkmatter | I may just enter in that | 07:40 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I almost thought that was an ASCII Design Competition | 07:41 |
| BHSPitMonkey | at first url glance | 07:41 |
| BHSPitMonkey | hmm, I can't pull up digg.com | 07:43 |
| BHSPitMonkey | is Digg finally experiencing the Digg effect? | 07:43 |
| BHSPitMonkey | whaha. | 07:44 |
| darkmatter | yup... they're just getting slammed with hex code | 07:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yeah | 07:44 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I got their maintenance page | 07:45 |
| BHSPitMonkey | little digg person with a shovel next to a Debian server XD | 07:45 |
| darkmatter | lol | 07:45 |
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| lapo | hi | 10:22 |
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| lapo | do you know how to switch openoffice styles? | 11:48 |
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| darkmatter | lapo, Tools, Options > View | 12:54 |
| darkmatter | its under user interface | 12:54 |
| darkmatter | "icon size and style" | 12:54 |
| lapo | darkmatter: thanks | 01:07 |
| darkmatter | np | 01:07 |
| darkmatter | http://images.derstandard.at/20070401/worldclock.gif <--- you guys see this yet | 01:07 |
| lapo | nice | 01:08 |
| lapo | could be improved, but nice | 01:08 |
| andreasn | cool, I totally need something like that | 01:12 |
| darkmatter | I'm just itching for the sp1 release.. I intend to hack every single goody to run on ubuntu :D | 01:22 |
| andreasn | ah, it's a sled-thing.. | 01:33 |
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| troy_s | You don't get it... You are all dead. It was the tuna casserole... | 04:52 |
| darkmatter | speak for yourself.. I hate tuna | 04:55 |
| darkmatter | :P | 04:55 |
| nothlit | bah... that site requires flash | 04:57 |
| troy_s | DEBBIE: Can I ask you a question? | 04:59 |
| troy_s | GRIM REAPER: What? | 04:59 |
| troy_s | DEBBIE: How can we all have died at the same time? | 04:59 |
| troy_s | [silence] | 04:59 |
| troy_s | GRIM REAPER: The salmon mousse. | 04:59 |
| troy_s | GEOFFREY: Darling, you didn't use canned salmon, did you? | 04:59 |
| troy_s | ANGELA: I'm most dreadfully embarrassed. | 05:00 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Worth checking out though. | 05:00 |
| nothlit | troy_s: you're designing a shoe? | 05:01 |
| troy_s | yharrow: Today might be a good day to test that Inkboard. | 05:37 |
| nothlit | don't use google talk servers--they strip unknown data | 06:04 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Thanks | 06:14 |
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| lapo | troy_s: inkboard, interesting, do you know how the heck it works? :-) | 06:55 |
| troy_s | lapo played with it in a limited capacity, working on some experiments for collaborating in the near future | 06:56 |
| troy_s | i had it working quite well at one point, but htat was early going | 06:57 |
| lapo | troy_s: have you got some link with intructions on how to use it? | 06:57 |
| nothlit | you get a jabber account and add each other | 06:58 |
| nothlit | then login to it @ inkscape, and share a session | 06:58 |
| lapo | no particular requirements? | 06:59 |
| troy_s | nothlit: We really need to have some painless wiki page for this. | 06:59 |
| lapo | I can use mu normal account? | 06:59 |
| troy_s | lapo: Just a jabber server that works with full data. | 06:59 |
| troy_s | lapo: I'll try to set a session up with you | 07:01 |
| troy_s | lapo as soon as i finish up with my ubuntustudio details. | 07:01 |
| nothlit | troy_s: did you design the logo/gtk theme? | 07:02 |
| lapo | http://open-collab.org/mod/dfwiki/view.php?id=336&page=Inkboarding&gid=0 | 07:02 |
| troy_s | lapo: Have you got a recent SVN compiled? | 07:02 |
| troy_s | nothlit: For uS -- no. I simply advised on various elements. I was working on Fantastic Four 2 while all of that was going on. | 07:03 |
| lapo | troy_s: nope, atm I'm using the stock feisty one | 07:03 |
| troy_s | lapo: wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HowToCompileInkscape | 07:03 |
| lapo | troy_s: I know how to compile stuff quite well :-) | 07:04 |
| troy_s | lol | 07:04 |
| troy_s | what i was trying to hint is compile a current | 07:04 |
| troy_s | ;) | 07:04 |
| troy_s | lapo: It is pretty useless if we try to experiment with versions that are different | 07:05 |
| lapo | yeah, got it, but I'll try with the current one first, just for the pleasure of filling some bugs :-) | 07:05 |
| troy_s | lol | 07:06 |
| troy_s | okie | 07:06 |
| troy_s | give me a few. | 07:06 |
| troy_s | what is your jabber accnt lapo ? | 07:06 |
| lapo | wait I need to sort out a pair of things | 07:06 |
| lapo | lemme check | 07:06 |
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| yharrow | hey troy_s | 08:48 |
| yharrow | ping troy_s | 08:54 |
| troy_s | yharrow: Hello | 08:54 |
| yharrow | hi | 08:54 |
| yharrow | troy_s: hows it going | 08:55 |
| troy_s | yharrow: Good you? | 08:55 |
| troy_s | unfortnately i set out to try and get a mock done in gimp gap, but haven't progressed very far. | 08:55 |
| yharrow | troy_s going pretty good. | 08:55 |
| yharrow | whats gimp gap? | 08:55 |
| troy_s | wow | 08:55 |
| troy_s | its a pretty powerful little animation plugin for the gimp | 08:56 |
| troy_s | dare i say _quite_ powerful | 08:56 |
| troy_s | with chroma keying etc... | 08:56 |
| troy_s | all sorts of goodies. | 08:56 |
| yharrow | troy_s: I think I ought to check it out :D | 08:56 |
| yharrow | sound like good fun | 08:56 |
| troy_s | yeah... if you have an interest in animation it is pretty versatile really. | 08:56 |
| yharrow | Ilove animation | 08:56 |
| yharrow | I did my stint with blender too | 08:56 |
| troy_s | i just started toying with it... it is far more versatile than i orginally thought. | 08:56 |
| yharrow | troy_s: I heard that you wanted to test out inkboard earlier | 09:02 |
| troy_s | yeah i was going to. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | kind of got run under at this point | 09:02 |
| yharrow | ok, we'll try it out some other time then | 09:03 |
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| nothlit | troy_s: gap for that gif animation banner? | 10:37 |
| nothlit | yharrow: i can play, i have inkscape svn compiled a few hours ago :) | 10:54 |
| troy_s | nothlit: GIMP Gap for the fluxbuntu usplash | 10:59 |
| nothlit | to do what? i thought the animation was handled by those bits of code | 11:00 |
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| troy_s | nothlit: You need to have a viable animation before you can have any chance of implementing it in code. | 11:22 |
| yharrow | nothlit: sweet | 11:26 |
| yharrow | nothlit: can I use my google account for jabber? | 11:26 |
| nothlit | yharrow: you can't use google servers | 11:26 |
| troy_s | yharrow: Jabber is free -- just sign up | 11:28 |
| yharrow | Ok ill do that | 11:28 |
| troy_s | nothlit: We should all see if we can get -current running with Inkscape and provide them with a set of bug reports. | 11:28 |
| yharrow | one sec | 11:28 |
| nothlit | -current? | 11:29 |
| yharrow | nothlit: which jabber server do you use? | 11:30 |
| troy_s | nothlit: -current meaning the head of SVN | 11:40 |
| troy_s | yharrow: jabber.org | 11:40 |
| nothlit | i'm using most recent revision 14909 | 11:41 |
| troy_s | what is the svn command to reveal version? | 11:41 |
| troy_s | nothlit: 14927 is most recent | 11:42 |
| nothlit | hmm | 11:43 |
| nothlit | of the whole folder--but not of the inkscape section itself http://inkscape.svn.sf.net/ | 11:44 |
| nothlit | look @ trunk http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/inkscape/ | 11:44 |
| yharrow | nothlit: Im trying to register a name brb | 11:45 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Weird it pulled files for me | 11:47 |
| troy_s | strange. | 11:47 |
| troy_s | probably unrelated | 11:47 |
| nothlit | i use arch's versionpkg to handle # changes :) | 11:48 |
| troy_s | ? | 11:48 |
| troy_s | how so? | 11:48 |
| nothlit | it does the checking and modifies my PKGBUILD | 11:49 |
| nothlit | and wraps makepkg too | 11:49 |
| troy_s | so nothlit | 11:50 |
| troy_s | is it 5222 for jabber? | 11:50 |
| nothlit | yeah thats the standard port | 11:50 |
| troy_s | so we setup a chat session yes? | 11:52 |
| nothlit | yeah | 11:52 |
| nothlit | i think only some servers can handle group chats though | 11:53 |
| troy_s | conference.jabber.org works fine | 11:53 |
| troy_s | add the chat group inkboard-test | 11:53 |
| yharrow | nothlit: ok Im done | 11:54 |
| troy_s | feck... i can't remember how to link up | 11:55 |
| troy_s | lol | 11:55 |
| troy_s | yharrow: inkboard-test is the conference | 11:56 |
| yharrow | troy_s: ok so what do I do exactly? | 11:56 |
| troy_s | first you need to use gaim or wahtever to join the chat | 11:56 |
| troy_s | text based | 11:56 |
| yharrow | I need to connect to conference.jabber.org? | 11:57 |
| yharrow | hmm | 11:58 |
| troy_s | join a chat | 11:59 |
| yharrow | ok browsing chats | 11:59 |
| troy_s | the chat is inkboard-test | 11:59 |
| troy_s | just put it in manually | 11:59 |
| yharrow | password? | 12:00 |
| yharrow | i didnt need to do it manually | 12:00 |
| yharrow | I am using gajim | 12:00 |
| yharrow | showed me list | 12:00 |
| yharrow | who is aphorism? | 12:01 |
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