| jdong | is there some trivial way to disable apport except hooks for a python app? | 12:14 |
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| lifeless | yes, dont raise uncaught exceptions ;) | 12:16 |
| lifeless | [why?] | 12:16 |
| jdong | lifeless: well now I know not to, but when I wrote this program, I didn't expect Python to do this to me, so a few of the exit conditions are uncaught exceptions | 12:18 |
| jdong | I want to SRU the package to get rid of the annoying behavior | 12:19 |
| lifeless | jdong: what, it would deliberately crash? | 12:19 |
| jdong | yes, it would let a BuildError slide on crash, or a KeyboardInterrupt for exit, etc | 12:19 |
| jdong | maybe a few others too :) | 12:19 |
| lifeless | ug | 12:20 |
| jdong | I have a feeling I'm gonna be getting a "correct python coding" talk :D | 12:20 |
| lifeless | keyboard interrupt apport should let through | 12:20 |
| lifeless | that might be a bug | 12:20 |
| jdong | keyboardinterrupt might go through right | 12:20 |
| jdong | but some of my others were derived from like OSError | 12:20 |
| lifeless | also SystemExit it should ignore, again if it doesn't its a bug | 12:20 |
| jdong | or IOError or ValueError | 12:20 |
| jdong | oops :) | 12:20 |
| lifeless | but yeah, if you raise an exception, its like in C, exiting via a segfault. | 12:21 |
| lifeless | it'll work, but its fugly. | 12:21 |
| jdong | hehe | 12:21 |
| jdong | point taken and I've already corrected that behavior in my devel branch | 12:21 |
| lifeless | ok | 12:21 |
| ion_ | Im pro-segfault. | 12:22 |
| jdong | so my choices are... (a) don't fix it, (b) add a exception wrapper around my main function (3) find a way to turn off apport | 12:23 |
| ion_ | And () all of the above | 12:24 |
| jdong | well I'm trying to pick the one with the fewest changed lines, so it looks best on a SRU proposal :D | 12:25 |
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| lifeless | (b) | 12:29 |
| lifeless | turning off apport would cause all real errors to not gather defect reports | 12:29 |
| lifeless | or did apport get castrated after the release? | 12:29 |
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| cjwatson | codingmaster: I remember suggesting "uriel", although it doesn't seem to be on your page | 01:04 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: could you give-back gnome-utils on sparc please | 01:05 |
| Nafallo | ? :-) | 01:05 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: no (as in, I have no ability to do so) | 01:05 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: oh. who has those days? I thought you had... :-) | 01:05 |
| jdong | Nafallo: I liked my give-back request :) | 01:06 |
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| cjwatson | Nafallo: I have never been a buildd admin | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | jdong: oh? :-) | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: ah. buildd admins then :-) | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | infinity: could you give-back gnome-utils on sparc please? :-) | 01:07 |
| jdong | Nafallo: look up for my ping to $nick=1.0/0.0 | 01:07 |
| jdong | I thought it deserved a few creativity points. | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 01:07 |
| codingmaster | @cjwatson: sorry, I add it now :) - thanks for the idea :) | 01:08 |
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| codingmaster | @cjwatson: it's there now - thanks :) | 01:10 |
| cjwatson | ta | 01:13 |
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| agraveley | is the gettext-po python binding available anyplace yet? | 02:08 |
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| vecina | *fearfully enters* | 05:20 |
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| Sleepy_Coder | *fearfully steals vecina's pocket change* | 05:21 |
| vecina | o.o | 05:21 |
| Sleepy_Coder | ().() | 05:21 |
| vecina | Im having a huge bug. This is actually with kubuntu, but big difference... ive asked a lot of people in a lot of places, so Im just poking here in the hope that someone will know | 05:21 |
| vecina | Why is my hald getting messed up when i shut down my computer? I have to reinstall dbus sometimes to get automounting back, and if i dont reinstall hal, i get graphical errors | 05:22 |
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| vecina | *sigh* oh well it was worth a shot | 05:24 |
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| infinity | jdong, Riddell, Nafallo : Done. | 05:37 |
| jdong | yay thanks infinity :) | 05:37 |
| Burgundavia | infinity: hey | 05:37 |
| infinity | Bonjour. | 05:37 |
| jdong | hey, he does the french thing too :) | 05:38 |
| infinity | Un petit peut. | 05:38 |
| jdong | lol | 05:39 |
| jdong | in that case I'm aliasing that give-back message | 05:39 |
| bluefoxicy | what the hell? The nslookup tool in windows is more complete than the one in Linux? | 05:44 |
| Sleepy_Coder | blasphemy! | 05:44 |
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| jmg | dig? | 05:44 |
| Sleepy_Coder | How many Windows Genuine Updates did it take to get that way? | 05:44 |
| bluefoxicy | Sleepy_Coder: nslookup doesn't implement anything on linux. I tried to zone transfer from a weak server and found that ls isn't implemented. Nor is root, finger, view, help, ? | 05:45 |
| jmg | use dig? | 05:45 |
| bluefoxicy | yeah, pretty much. | 05:47 |
| bluefoxicy | it just irks me. | 05:47 |
| johanbr | Years ago, nslookup used to carry a notice that it was deprecated. It doesn't seem to any more. | 05:52 |
| Sleepy_Coder | bluefoxicy: lol, I was being sarcastic. :) | 05:54 |
| jmg | johanbr: wasnt it the host command that had the banner saying use nslookup instead? | 05:56 |
| johanbr | I don't think so. | 05:56 |
| johanbr | I could be wrong, though. | 05:57 |
| johanbr | Google seems to agree with me. | 05:58 |
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| Burgundavia | morning Keybuk | 06:54 |
| ajmitch | hi Keybuk | 06:55 |
| Keybuk | heyhey | 06:55 |
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| Keybuk | three US states in one day! | 06:58 |
| ajmitch | been travelling a bit? | 06:59 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 06:59 |
| Keybuk | Texas, Colorado and now Oregon | 06:59 |
| Burgundavia | oh geez | 07:00 |
| Burgundavia | what for? | 07:00 |
| tonyyarusso | wow, not even bordering | 07:00 |
| Burgundavia | well, the first is probably dell, the 2nd is probably system76 and the 3rd I have no idea | 07:00 |
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| ajmitch | and then you get to hop on a plane for spain, lucky you | 07:00 |
| Burgundavia | Keybuk: am I right? | 07:01 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: won't Ubuntu Live be in Oregon in July? | 07:01 |
| Keybuk | Burgundavia: no ;) | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | Keybuk: I can try | 07:02 |
| Burgundavia | I mean, I could build an entire conspiracy theory around that trip | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: and then blog about it | 07:03 |
| Hobbsee | of course | 07:03 |
| Hobbsee | hiya, btw | 07:03 |
| Keybuk | *sigh* yeah, that's always a great idea ;) | 07:03 |
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| Burgundavia | I have already blogged once today and am about to blog a 2nd time | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | 3rd is a bit excessive | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: that's a lot more than I have | 07:04 |
| ion_ | burgundavia: He went back in time to Area 51 to prevent the US government from blowing up WTC, while meeting some gray aliens on the movie set of the fake moon landings? | 07:04 |
| Burgundavia | ok, that is entirely over the top | 07:04 |
| Burgundavia | a good conspiracy theory is simple | 07:04 |
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| Treenaks | ajmitch: what would hr@ want with a conspiracy theory? :P | 07:05 |
| ajmitch | Treenaks: nothing | 07:05 |
| ajmitch | though they may get a few laughs out of it | 07:06 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 07:08 |
| ion_ | Bono estente, pitti. | 07:08 |
| Treenaks | wow @ xkcd.com | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | hey pitti | 07:09 |
| jmg | timeline | 07:09 |
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| Mithrandir | Treenaks: with "Stallman's airship" too | 07:45 |
| jmg | www.digg.com lol. | 07:48 |
| Mithrandir | "Soviet Russia" too. | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, wonder what eler are going to do with this Dell thing | 07:52 |
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| ajmitch | hi Mithrandir | 07:58 |
| tonyyarusso | eler? | 07:58 |
| Mithrandir | hiya ajmitch | 07:58 |
| shawarma | tonyyarusso: Everybody Loves Eric Raymond. | 07:59 |
| shawarma | tonyyarusso: Just google for "eler" | 07:59 |
| tonyyarusso | ah, right | 07:59 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: sync-source? | 08:06 |
| Mithrandir | the tool we use to sync packages from elsewhere. | 08:06 |
| Mithrandir | it was being annoying | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 08:07 |
| Mithrandir | and it's even more annoying that it restarts from scratch after falling over. | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | even more so when I'm syncing 500-ish packages. | 08:08 |
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| Hobbsee | hah | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 08:10 |
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| dholbach | GOOD MORNING | 08:56 |
| mdke | morning dholbach | 08:57 |
| mdke | very convincingly said | 08:57 |
| dholbach | heya mdke | 08:57 |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:57 |
| mdke | sun is shining in Berlin? | 08:57 |
| dholbach | it's a bit cloudy, but it's good :) | 08:58 |
| dholbach | how are you? | 08:58 |
| mdke | very well, sun is shining here | 08:58 |
| dholbach | nice :) | 08:58 |
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| mdke | cjwatson: should I change the value of &url-install-manual; to what the new address will be? You might want to do that in the package I guess | 09:04 |
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| mdke | cjwatson: here is a diff of what I've changed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18764/ | 09:12 |
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| Nafallo | infinity: thanks | 09:26 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: morning handsome :-) | 09:26 |
| cjwatson | mdke: yeah, feel free to change that in your tree - I'll see about merging, although I have to do a complicated merge from Debian that I didn't manage to finish last cycle | 09:28 |
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| cjwatson | wget -O mdke.diff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18764/plain/ # will have to do for now | 09:29 |
| dholbach | heya Nafallo | 09:30 |
| mdke | cjwatson: you might not want the change to buildone.sh | 09:30 |
| mdke | anyway, should be online whenever newz can get round to uploading it | 09:31 |
| Nafallo | morning everyone :-) | 09:31 |
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| tkamppeter | hi, pitti | 10:48 |
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| zyga | mvo: hey | 10:50 |
| mvo | hey zyga! | 10:51 |
| zyga | mvo: how is your weekend? :-) | 10:51 |
| mvo | zyga: it was great! long and very relaxing :) | 10:51 |
| zyga | mvo: I have some interesting news on cnf front | 10:51 |
| mvo | zyga: much needed after the stressful release :P | 10:51 |
| zyga | mvo: I got the raw data scan down to 700K | 10:51 |
| mvo | zyga: woah! that is great! | 10:51 |
| mvo | zyga: should I merge from you? | 10:51 |
| zyga | and I have fixed a major bug that probably missed alot of stuff in packages | 10:51 |
| pitti | hello tkamppeter, how are you? | 10:52 |
| zyga | not yet unless you want to see the state of flux today :-) | 10:52 |
| mvo | zyga: haha, ok :) | 10:52 |
| zyga | one last thing is the new format that is no longer arch dependent | 10:52 |
| zyga | this time the whole archive is universal as the changes from arch to arch are less than 50K | 10:52 |
| zyga | (for all arches) | 10:52 |
| siretart | cjwatson: I'd like to register specs for sevilla, but I'm unsure how to propse them to the conference next week. shall I set the goal for gutsy like in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/wine-gutsy-roadmap/? | 10:53 |
| zyga | I have also found several bugs in other packages: mostly programs being in /usr/bin but -x | 10:53 |
| zyga | I also have some other bugs pending where one package has 3 binaries on some platformsa and for example, only two on one specific (seems like an accident) | 10:53 |
| siretart | that doesn't seem to match with the UDS, but rather for gutsy in general.. hmm | 10:53 |
| mvo | zyga: if the data is not that big, having a arch: all package is fine. i | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | siretart: no, don't set a release goal; use "propose for meeting agenda" | 10:54 |
| zyga | yeah the data is even smaller than before :D | 10:54 |
| zyga | slighly but still | 10:54 |
| mvo | zyga: this kind of error checking sounds very very useful, lets add a mode to the scanner so that we can run it in "check-archive"-mode | 10:54 |
| zyga | it was caused by the serious hardling bug discovered by someone | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | gar @ -roadmap specs, too | 10:55 |
| zyga | I have several new programs that do that | 10:55 |
| siretart | cjwatson: aaah, found it! | 10:55 |
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| zyga | oh and the scan format is improved | 10:55 |
| mvo | zyga: I'm subscribed to the command-not-found bugs, but I'm currently a weekend behind my buglist :/ | 10:55 |
| zyga | first the big dump (as before) is transformed to a package map (0.7MB) | 10:55 |
| zyga | then that map is transformed to the regular format or to the legacy format | 10:55 |
| siretart | cjwatson: is there some way to see the already but not yet accepted specs for sevilla? | 10:55 |
| zyga | we could ship an update to feisty data next week if you agree, many programs were missed because of that bug | 10:56 |
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| cjwatson | siretart: I think you need superpowers for that | 10:56 |
| siretart | cjwatson: hm. okay. Do you happen to know if there is some discussion (aka spec) planned for having crypted filesystem (or rather crypted blockdevices via cryptsetup) support in 7.10? | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | siretart: (FWIW, I don't have those superpowers either) | 10:57 |
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| siretart | hm. looks I'd need to catch some TB member.. | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | mdz: can we make /sprints/uds-sevilla be driven by ubuntu-drivers or something so that I can prod it? | 10:58 |
| mdz | cjwatson: just crashed my firefox trying | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | whee | 10:59 |
| cjwatson | siretart: crypted filesystem support is on the core schedule (i.e. the stuff that's been pre-scheduled by hand) | 10:59 |
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| mvo | zyga: I'm fine with that, but we need a propper diff so that the changes can be audited manually to protect against regressions | 11:00 |
| mdz | cjwatson: repeatably, even | 11:00 |
| siretart | cjwatson: whee! I was just about to register a spec about this :) | 11:00 |
| mvo | zyga: thanks for that great work, thats really cool! | 11:00 |
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| cjwatson | siretart: I'll add your name to the list for that spec | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | s/spec/workshop/ | 11:01 |
| zyga | mvo: as before, the scan can be generated with -legacy-scan-data and manual diff :-) | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | mdz: w3m? :) | 11:01 |
| mvo | zyga: good! | 11:01 |
| siretart | cjwatson: that would be great! | 11:01 |
| siretart | cjwatson: is that spec in launchpad? what's the name? | 11:01 |
| mdz | pitti: I'm not getting a crash dump from it for some reason | 11:01 |
| pitti | mvo: for what? | 11:02 |
| pitti | mdz: for a ffox crash? | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | siretart: oh, er. except it conflicts with revu/contributing which you're also down for | 11:02 |
| mdz | pitti: not entirely certain it's dying from a signal; looking at it now | 11:02 |
| pitti | mdz: if it's SIGABRT, we ignore it; the log might tell? | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | siretart: we haven't gone through and sorted out all the core-schedule workshops having specs in launchpad yet - I'm planning to do that today or tomorrow | 11:03 |
| mdz | /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/firefox/components/libmyspell.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc | 11:03 |
| asac | mdz: ffox needs a fix because hunspell upgrade was incompatible | 11:04 |
| asac | e.g. a respin + a patch | 11:04 |
| siretart | cjwatson: aaah, I see. thanks for looking this up for me | 11:04 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, fine. | 11:04 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, is the apport still activated by default in the released Feisty? I still get gs-esp crash reports regularly. | 11:05 |
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| pitti | tkamppeter: reports are still written, but not reported to the user any more by default | 11:05 |
| asac | i am waiting for nss and nspr package to be synched from debian ... anyone can speed this up? | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | asac: have you filed sync bugs? | 11:06 |
| cjwatson | oh, are they new packages? | 11:06 |
| asac | i have ... though seb128 told me that this was not needed?? | 11:06 |
| asac | yes they are new | 11:06 |
| seb128 | cjwatson: there is bug opens but they are new packages | 11:06 |
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| cjwatson | indeed, bugs aren't needed | 11:06 |
| cjwatson | asac: I can do that for you once whoever is doing an autosync run has finished | 11:06 |
| cjwatson | (Tollef, at a guess) | 11:07 |
| seb128 | cjwatson: new packages are not part of the autosync run? | 11:07 |
| asac | cjwatson: you rock ... shall i remind you in a few hours? | 11:07 |
| asac | mdz: for the time being try to downgrade libhunspell ;) | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | seb128: no | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | autosync -> sync-source -a, new packages -> new-source and sync-source individually | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | asac: sure | 11:10 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | asac: actually, somebody is syncing them at the moment, so no need | 11:11 |
| asac | ah ... any ETA? | 11:11 |
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| cjwatson | asac: few hours | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | (once you take NEW into account, etc.) | 11:12 |
| cjwatson | asac: do these need to go into main? if so, are they just split out from an existing package, or is there anything fundamentally new in there? | 11:12 |
| asac | cjwatson: can you direct them to main? | 11:12 |
| asac | no .. they are split out ... + soname | 11:12 |
| asac | cjwatson: there are preview packages if you want to do a review | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | I can certainly direct them to main, yes | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | it's ok, I'll eyeball them in the queue | 11:14 |
| asac | ok fine :) | 11:14 |
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| saispo | hi all | 11:19 |
| saispo | who maintain samba ? | 11:20 |
| seb128 | nobody | 11:21 |
| seb128 | we have no assigned maintainer | 11:21 |
| seb128 | infinity was looking at it | 11:21 |
| seb128 | why? | 11:21 |
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| mdz | saispo: samba is maintained by the Debian samba team; Ubuntu makes only trivial changes to it | 11:41 |
| mdz | (and by upstream of course) | 11:41 |
| saispo | k | 11:42 |
| saispo | seb128: ok, because i have a bug under ubuntu, but with the same config, on edgy no bug, the same config on Mandriva no bug... | 11:42 |
| saispo | seb128: i will investigate more :) | 11:42 |
| seb128 | saispo: what bug? | 11:43 |
| saispo | a segfault when /proc/sys/kernel/domainname is set to (none) | 11:45 |
| saispo | a bug is open on launchpad | 11:45 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 11:45 |
| seb128 | saispo: does mandriva uses the same samba version? | 11:46 |
| saispo | yep | 11:46 |
| saispo | 3.0.24 | 11:46 |
| seb128 | ok, so maybe it's due to a distribution patch or they have a patch to fix it | 11:46 |
| saispo | the version in Debian is more recent than the feisty, will try with it | 11:46 |
| seb128 | let me know if you figure something | 11:46 |
| saispo | k | 11:47 |
| saispo | no problem :) | 11:47 |
| Riddell | infinity: I'm after a mass kde give back please: kdegraphics, kdeadmin, kdetoys, kdenetwork, kdemultimedia, kdepim, kdeedu, kdeartwork | 11:48 |
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| Mithrandir | Riddell: I'll get to it | 11:49 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: thanks | 11:49 |
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| Mithrandir | Hobbsee! | 11:49 |
| Simira | Mithrandir! | 11:50 |
| Mithrandir | Simira! | 11:50 |
| === Mithrandir hugs Simira | ||
| Simira | Hobbsee: taking off soon? :) | 11:50 |
| Simira | Mithrandir: remember to bring the large suitcase for Hobbsee | 11:50 |
| Mithrandir | Simira: yup, I was planning on that one. | 11:50 |
| Mithrandir | though, a backpack might be more comfortable? | 11:51 |
| Simira | Mithrandir: probably harder to carry? The suitcase has wheels on it? | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir! Simira! | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: less than 24 hours, yep! | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | haha :D | 11:51 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: wb | 11:51 |
| === Hobbsee pictures bouncing repeatedly... | ||
| fabbione | Simira: hey... | 11:52 |
| Simira | hi fabbione! How's the family doing? | 11:52 |
| fabbione | Simira: all good thanks | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | heya fabbione! | 11:52 |
| === Hobbsee bounces | ||
| fabbione | Simira: the little one is taking a nap | 11:52 |
| Simira | fabbione: not running all around yet? | 11:52 |
| fabbione | Simira: oh yeah.. he can crawl around now, and he is learning to climb the jails and stand up | 11:53 |
| fabbione | Simira: it's scary how quickly he does that | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 11:53 |
| Simira | fabbione: I can imagine... one of the real scary periods with a child | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: will have to play the role of embarrassed person when the fabbioneclan goes shopping now... | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | er, s/person/parent/ | 11:53 |
| fabbione | Simira: no.. the real scary period is when they will become teenagers :P | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 11:54 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: ehehe | 11:54 |
| Simira | fabbione: one of them, I said. I didn't say it doesn't get worse ;) | 11:54 |
| fabbione | Simira: yeah.. true that | 11:54 |
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| Simira | Hobbsee: all my cousins are younger than me... | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: ahhh.. yes, that helps | 11:55 |
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| seb128 | slomo: any reason you are not on #ubuntu-desktop? ;) | 11:59 |
| seb128 | ups, you are, completion didn't work correctly | 11:59 |
| seb128 | or I used the wrong key ;) | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: damn those keyboards that dont operate on brain waves! | 12:00 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: right ;) | 12:00 |
| mdz | asac: that bug seems to break any page with a textarea. I think this will make it difficult to report in Launchpad :-) | 12:00 |
| asac | mdz: hehe ... right;) ... but this special bug is known | 12:01 |
| asac | if nss/nspr don't land today i will upload an intermediate fix | 12:02 |
| asac | so gutsy people can use firefox | 12:02 |
| asac | problem was that we used experimental hunspell version from debian ... and debian maintainer assumed it was ok to break abi | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: in that suitcase, be sure to bring Simira please. | 12:02 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: good point, I should. | 12:03 |
| Simira | Hobbsee: it's not room for Odin in there | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: then how on earth would you expect me to fit in there? :P | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: yes. else there will be the doomstick treatment. | 12:03 |
| Simira | Hobbsee: ok, it's not room for BOTH me AND Odin | 12:04 |
| asac | mdz: maybe try to disable spellchecker for now | 12:04 |
| Simira | Hobbsee: and no doomstick on my husband, may I ask | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: ahhh, point. and yes you may ask | 12:05 |
| Simira | Hobbsee: and I WILL be obeyed! :p | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Simira: O RLY NOW? | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 12:05 |
| Riddell | pitti: any plans to review feisty-proposed uploads? | 12:05 |
| pitti | Riddell: yes, it's high on my list indeed | 12:06 |
| Riddell | pitti: great | 12:06 |
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| pitti | mdz, iwj: does http://pastebin.ca/467105 look reasonable for you as a check for following the Ubuntu merging policy? (use -v and describe remaining changes) it's only a heuristic of course | 12:08 |
| mdz | asac: will layout.spellcheckDefault=0 do that? | 12:08 |
| mdz | pitti: 'merge.*debian' is probably sufficient (e.g., "Merge Debian changes", or "Merge ... from Debian" | 12:09 |
| pitti | ah, right | 12:09 |
| cjwatson | pitti: hmm, I sort of feel that's going too far along the road that's a pain for third party developers to turn off | 12:10 |
| mdz | pitti: maybe link to an anchor on UbuntuDevelopment which explains in more detail? | 12:10 |
| pitti | cjwatson: it has $ENV{'DEBEMAIL'} =~ /ubuntu/ | 12:10 |
| mdz | cjwatson: just like the other check, it's conditional on DEBEMAIL | 12:10 |
| asac | mdz: yes | 12:10 |
| pitti | mdz: good idea | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | shrug, just feels like going too far to me | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | we already get people turning up here from time to time who are Ubuntu members and have DEBEMAIL =~ /ubuntu/, but aren't actually Ubuntu *developers* and get confused by the existing check | 12:11 |
| mdz | asac: that works around it, thanks. | 12:11 |
| mdz | asac: if there's a bug open in launchpad, please note that on the bug as well | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | I think it's worth it for the maintainer check since that was something we were asked to do, but this is just for our own convenience | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | and also /ubuntu/ matches derivatives that happen to contain "ubuntu" | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | who may be merging from us | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | "merge from Debian via Ubuntuu" | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | s/u"/"/ | 12:12 |
| Mithrandir | make it part of debuild, not dpkg-buildpackage, if anything? | 12:12 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: what would that change, by and large? | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | pitti: also, please make it a warning not an error | 12:13 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: debuild is more of a kitchen sink than dpkg-buildpackage? | 12:13 |
| asac | mdz: done bug 111568 | 12:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111568 in firefox "Gutsy Firefox crashes when spell checking enabled" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111568 | 12:13 |
| pitti | cjwatson: well, then we don't really need to do it, I think; even building a source package is noisy enough to make warnings just get drowned in the scrolling flood | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | pitti: the warnings at the end tend to be noticed a bit more | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | I agree for stuff earlier on, but dpkg-genchanges is right at the end | 12:15 |
| pitti | hm; it seems we never actually wikified the merging Policy | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | and this is such a fuzzy check that it seems quite likely to misfire on occasion | 12:15 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ok; let's see whether it will have an impact | 12:16 |
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| carlos | pitti: hi | 12:52 |
| carlos | around ? | 12:52 |
| pitti | hey carlos | 12:53 |
| carlos | pitti: did you enable again daily lang packs? (and prepared everything for Feisty updates?) | 12:53 |
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| pitti | carlos: yes, I did | 12:54 |
| carlos | ok | 12:54 |
| carlos | seems like there is a problem with the fixed name link | 12:54 |
| carlos | and thus, I guess you didn't get any update yet | 12:54 |
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| pitti | carlos: it just didn't build feisty-updates because ~carlos/public_html/language-packs/feisty-updates/ does not have rosetta-feisty-updates.tar.gz | 12:54 |
| carlos | yeah, seems like the link is not being updated nor created | 12:55 |
| carlos | pitti: fixed | 12:57 |
| pitti | carlos: thanks | 12:57 |
| carlos | if you want to run the script again, today exports should work | 12:57 |
| pitti | carlos: started | 12:59 |
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| mdz | asac: thanks | 01:10 |
| fabbione | OH great | 01:10 |
| fabbione | mdz: how can i workaround that FF crash? | 01:10 |
| mdz | fabbione: it's in the bug | 01:11 |
| fabbione | thanks | 01:11 |
| mdz | bug 111568 | 01:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111568 in firefox "Gutsy Firefox crashes when spell checking enabled" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111568 | 01:11 |
| iwj | pitti: I think I agree with cjwatson, FWIW. (Sorry, I didn't see your message earlier; apparently my client doesn't embolden unless my nick is first, or something?) | 01:12 |
| pitti | iwj: right, thanks; I changed it to be warnings in debuild now | 01:13 |
| pitti | debuild collects warnings and writes them out as last step, that's reasonable | 01:13 |
| TheMuso | Is there any reason why a package that builds fine in a pbuilder FTBFS on the same arch in the DC? The build step for the package requires pkg-config >= 0.8, and can't seem to find it, even though version 0.21 gets installed? As I said, in pbuilder, fine, yet it failed in the DC. | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: isnt .21 less than .8? | 01:15 |
| StevenK | zsh: exit 1 dpkg --compare-versions 0.21 lt 0.8 | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, okay then | 01:16 |
| mjg59 | 0.21 is less than 0.8 if talking about decimal representation, but not if talking about version numbers | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh | 01:16 |
| === Hobbsee thought version numbers were decimal, for a second there | ||
| cjwatson | TheMuso: do you have a link to the build log? | 01:17 |
| mjg59 | And given that things like 0.2.1 clearly aren't decimal representation... | 01:17 |
| Mithrandir | StevenK: you can't ask dpkg about how pkg-config compares version numbers. :-P But 0.8 is less than 0.21, that's right. | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: yeah, i get the point, i need the duncecap again :P | 01:18 |
| TheMuso | cjwatson: http://librarian.launchpad.net/7510669/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.ardour_1:2.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 01:18 |
| === Hobbsee should just really leave that on... | ||
| TheMuso | Yet it still doesn't explain why pbuilder worked. | 01:18 |
| TheMuso | to me anyway. | 01:19 |
| StevenK | It uses scons. That explains everything. | 01:21 |
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| cjwatson | that is very weird, I don't see an obvious reason for that to fail either | 01:22 |
| asac | iwj: do you remember why firefox user-agent string was branded by ...extra.firefoxComment pref and not .vendor / .vendorSub / .vendorComment ? | 01:22 |
| cjwatson | it's doing 'pkg-config --atleast-pkgconfig-version=0.8.0' | 01:22 |
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| StevenK | Mithrandir: Point. I thought it was dying during Build-Depends. | 01:22 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: PATH might be borked, for some insane reason. | 01:23 |
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| asac | iwj: if i set vendor=Ubuntu; vendorSub=7.04 and vendorComment=Feisty i get: | 01:26 |
| asac | iwj: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20061201 Ubuntu/7.04 (Feisty) Firefox/2.0.0.3 | 01:26 |
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| asac | iwj: vs now: | 01:26 |
| asac | iwj: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.3 (Ubuntu-feisty) | 01:27 |
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| rlking | . | 01:27 |
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| pitti | cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../lib -g -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O2 -c utmp.c | 01:28 |
| pitti | /tmp/ccldQxqc.s: Assembler messages: | 01:28 |
| pitti | /tmp/ccldQxqc.s:144: Error: operand out of range (0x000000000000ffff is not between 0x0000000000000000 and 0x00000000000000ff) | 01:28 |
| pitti | doko: ^ did you happen to see this somewhere? | 01:29 |
| pitti | doko: (there's no assembler in that file) | 01:29 |
| cjwatson | I saw that somewhere else too, though it was during the kernel headers mess so at the time I put it down to a strange side-effect of that | 01:29 |
| fabbione | pitti: that's probable a fall out from kernel headers | 01:29 |
| doko | pitti: that's powerpc, correct? | 01:30 |
| fabbione | cjwatson: it was on the kernel scripts | 01:30 |
| pitti | ok, so I'll just build it again and see | 01:30 |
| pitti | doko: right | 01:30 |
| fabbione | pitti: yeps | 01:30 |
| === TheMuso remembers building a simple source file on ppc the other day and seeing similar behavior. The problem went away after an update. | ||
| cjwatson | fabbione: this is since that though | 01:30 |
| doko | pitti: known, needs a binutils update | 01:30 |
| cjwatson | I think? | 01:30 |
| pitti | doko: oh, ok; so I'll just ask for a give-back after that | 01:30 |
| cjwatson | pitti: http://librarian.launchpad.net/7484517/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-powerpc.shadow_1%3A4.0.18.1-7_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz is a successful build of apparently the most recent version | 01:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, heh; I just got the FTBFS mails and wondered | 01:31 |
| iwj | asac: The thing I did to it was to remove some of the extraneous information which seemed like rather too much of a privacy (and perhaps security) hazard. There was a bug about it IIRC. | 01:31 |
| iwj | But from what you say above that doesn't seem to be working atm. | 01:32 |
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| iwj | Ideally the browser string wouldn't tell a rogue webserver which exploits to send. | 01:32 |
| asac | iwj: so we don't want feisty info? | 01:32 |
| iwj | I'm more worried about the upstream patchlevel TBH. | 01:33 |
| asac | or are you saying that you don't want version of firefx? | 01:33 |
| iwj | Saying `feisty' doesn't seem harmful. | 01:33 |
| asac | well ... you can guess upstream patchlevel from that too :) | 01:33 |
| iwj | Only if you know whether the user has upgraded. | 01:33 |
| Mithrandir | doko: the fixed binutils has been in the archive for a while. | 01:34 |
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| cjwatson | iwj: isn't this the same argument people use to object to ssh sending version information in its banner? It didn't convince me there either | 01:35 |
| doko | Mithrandir: ahh, right, that was the previous powerpc thing | 01:35 |
| cjwatson | er, I mean sshd | 01:35 |
| asac | iwj: hmm. I remember upstream complaining about ubuntu not having most recent version info | 01:35 |
| cjwatson | because people will just try all the exploits they know, rather than messing about trying to select an optimal set of exploits | 01:35 |
| cjwatson | perhaps this is differently true in the case of a web browser | 01:35 |
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| iwj | cjwatson: Yes. With a browser it's harder to just try them all; you'd end up having to contrive to arrange for the browser to fetch lots of things some of which may give a `do your work [yes] [no] ' dialogue, etc. | 01:38 |
| asac | i don't think version info is important to obfuscate | 01:38 |
| asac | iwj: you will always use the latest :) | 01:38 |
| iwj | You want to send an exploit that will work and not crash the target, too. | 01:39 |
| iwj | Which is hardly important in a forking daemon. | 01:39 |
| cjwatson | true | 01:39 |
| asac | hehe ... yes, but if you have a javascript exploit you won't have to bother with that ;) | 01:39 |
| iwj | What was upstream's complaint ? | 01:40 |
| asac | it was back in the 1.0.x days .... iirc it was about you braeking there addons site | 01:40 |
| asac | s/there/their/ | 01:40 |
| iwj | The `security and stability' changes ought not to break addons so they don't need to key off that version number. | 01:41 |
| asac | yes ... it was more about some exploit directly related with addons site | 01:41 |
| iwj | Uh? | 01:41 |
| asac | e.g. so they didn't allow people to go to addons | 01:41 |
| iwj | Oh, I see. | 01:41 |
| asac | with some version number ... don't ask me ... would have to digg up old mail (if i still have it) | 01:41 |
| iwj | That can be fixed by special knowledge about the addons site in the browser. | 01:42 |
| asac | personally i agree that web applications should not depend on minor version | 01:42 |
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| asac | anyway ... my initial question was not about this ... but more about the different position of ubuntu/feisty info. | 01:44 |
| asac | :) | 01:44 |
| mdz | cjwatson: uds-sevilla driver set | 01:45 |
| iwj | I think it's fine to say `feisty' or give the major number. I don't have an opinion about the exact formatting of the string. | 01:45 |
| cjwatson | asac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodeNamesToVersionNumbers is one thing to consider here; although as it happens I don't think the firefox version info string is desktop-visible enough to cause people to be confused into thinking development milestones are final releases, so I think it's probably OK to have the release version number in there | 01:47 |
| iwj | cjwatson: Oh, good point. | 01:47 |
| cjwatson | just something to bear in mind when changing that stuff | 01:50 |
| asac | cjwatson: good ... will consider this. has it been considered to use different version in /etc/lsb-release during development and bump version right before release? | 01:51 |
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| cjwatson | asac: yes, and we do precisely that ;-) | 01:53 |
| cjwatson | DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | -DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04 | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | -DISTRIB_CODENAME=feisty | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | -DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.04" | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | +DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.10 | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | +DISTRIB_CODENAME=gutsy | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | +DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu gutsy (development branch)" | 01:54 |
| cjwatson | I think it's correct to have DISTRIB_RELEASE as it is, because code keys off that, but we've been changing DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION just before release for a while now | 01:55 |
| asac | ok i think i understand | 01:56 |
| asac | :) | 01:57 |
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| pirast | keescook, hi | 01:58 |
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| tkamppeter | pitti, is the behaviour of apport managed by a config file? This would perhaps mean that someone who has used Feisty during the development period will have apport popping up still after Feisty went final. | 02:05 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: no, it's a gconf key | 02:06 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: so some people might have enabled it again, or aren't fully up to date | 02:06 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, thanks. | 02:07 |
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| flyby5 | The news is that our beloved Head of Freenode Staff _christel_ works together with the anti Rob Levin network OFTC now to fight against trolls. | 02:08 |
| flyby5 | And all your donations are used to pay a lawyer, so that Freenode can be a home of script kiddies like trelane, while people with justified complaints are removed. | 02:08 |
| flyby5 | In the main focus are not Free and Open Source Projects. What staff members care about is their hobby and fun. And you pay for it with your donations. | 02:08 |
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| rlking_ | . | 02:11 |
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| Hobbsee | ? | 02:11 |
| Mithrandir | thanks Hobbsee | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: urgh. it's a moron | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | [22:11] <Hobbsee> flyby5: that's still no excuse to spam channels, though | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | [22:11] <flyby5> Hobbsee, thats the only logic consequence of repeated k-lines | 02:12 |
| Mithrandir | uh. | 02:12 |
| TheMuso | And no ops around in that channel either. :S | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: of course, yes. | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: there are no staffers around | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | we have normality. repeat, we have normality. | 02:13 |
| TheMuso | heh | 02:13 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hm? | 02:13 |
| StevenK | I got a flash-back to Hitchhikers, actually | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | yes, it was hitchhikers | 02:14 |
| StevenK | But IRC is no Heart of Gold. :-P | 02:15 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: Are you happy, citizen? | 02:15 |
| Mithrandir | Treenaks: I am. | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: are you sure? | 02:16 |
| zyga | mvo: I'm wondering about all those arch-unique packages | 02:16 |
| Treenaks | Happiness is mandatory! The computer is your friend. | 02:16 |
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| zyga | I know that stuff like wine is x86-only but the rest is quite puzzling | 02:17 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Quite. :-P | 02:17 |
| zyga | do you think that it's worth investigating/filing bugs about such packages? | 02:17 |
| zyga | I've got the full list http://suxx.pl/~zyga/unique-packages.txt | 02:17 |
| zyga | it's quite short | 02:17 |
| mvo | zyga: its not uncommon for hardware specific stuff | 02:18 |
| mvo | zyga: something might be there by accident | 02:18 |
| Treenaks | Why is 'Ubuntu Directory Services' subscribed to kdebase questiosn?! | 02:20 |
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| Mithrandir | Treenaks: because somebody is on crack. | 02:21 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: apparently | 02:21 |
| Mithrandir | or something. | 02:21 |
| mc44 | Mithrandir: you'll never be able to enter the US now, you crazy fool :p | 02:22 |
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| Hobbsee | (spammer klined) | 02:23 |
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| robertj_ | what causes one to receive -answers mail? | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | robertj_: bug. see #launchpad conversation | 02:27 |
| robertj_ | Hobbsee: ehh, not that interested i'll just ignore all the -answers mail for 24 hours :) | 02:28 |
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| doko | pitti: please premove gcc-4.1-multilib, needed for the next glibc upload (and maybe the other gcc binaries waiting for promotion as well) | 02:32 |
| pitti | doko: premove -> remove? | 02:33 |
| doko | pitti: bah, promote even | 02:34 |
| pitti | doko: ah, I see; I already wondered about what to do with the rdepends ;) | 02:34 |
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| Mithrandir | I was wondering why the packages NEWed less than a week ago should be removed already. | 02:35 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: development goes at fast pace :) | 02:35 |
| Mithrandir | blazing, I'd say. | 02:35 |
| pitti | doko: promoted | 02:35 |
| pitti | doko: g++-4.1-multilib and friends as well? | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Mithrandir: So someone can NEW it again, of course. | 02:36 |
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| nrdb | I have just installed 7.04 I did an update, but now I can't get apt-get or dpkg to work at all :( when I run apt-get I get an error message "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." when I run dpkg I get "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0007' near line 1:" and " field name `y/ttyx8' must be followed by colon" :( what can I do to fix this | 02:40 |
| mdz | nrdb: this channel is for development conversations, #ubuntu is the place to go for help | 02:41 |
| nrdb | mdz: on one answered there | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | nrdb: id' suggest reading the error message and following it, too | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | and #ubuntu | 02:42 |
| mdz | nrdb: I'm sorry about that, but it is still true | 02:42 |
| === nrdb I will try again | ||
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| StevenK | Drat! I forgot -v when generated a .changes | 02:45 |
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| doko | pitti: wouldn't hurt | 02:59 |
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| Mithrandir | jdong: nice quite message | 03:00 |
| jdong | doko: I've been meaning to ask, do you know any reason for bug 109768? | 03:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109768 in python-defaults "idle started -n, vulnerable to deadlocking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109768 | 03:00 |
| jdong | Mithrandir: why thank you :) | 03:00 |
| Nafallo | jdong: I liked the serial better though ;-) | 03:01 |
| jdong | (I figured there must've been _some_ motivation to start it -n, rather than 'hey lets let it hang while executing code' :D | 03:01 |
| jdong | Nafallo: that'll come back when this fad is over | 03:01 |
| Nafallo | jdong: :-) | 03:02 |
| jdong | Nafallo: until then, it's my wallpaper and all my cubecaps too :D | 03:02 |
| Nafallo | *asg* | 03:02 |
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| doko | jdong: updated the report | 03:03 |
| jdong | doko: thanks | 03:06 |
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| pitti | doko: promoted | 03:18 |
| Solarion | there gonna be 2.6.21 in feisty, or is that slated for gutsy? | 03:29 |
| Solarion | 'cause dynticks would be oh so tasty | 03:29 |
| Mithrandir | Solarion: feisty is released so it doesn't get any updates of that kind. | 03:29 |
| Mithrandir | gutsy is getting 2.6.22 | 03:29 |
| Solarion | but the repos aren't open yet, is that correct? | 03:30 |
| StevenK | Sure they are. | 03:30 |
| Mithrandir | they've been open for a week or so | 03:30 |
| Solarion | (Kinda thorught that might be the case) | 03:30 |
| Solarion | oh? | 03:30 |
| Solarion | is anyone using them? | 03:30 |
| Mithrandir | there's been a slew of uploads, yes. Why? | 03:31 |
| Solarion | between dynticks and randr1.2 this could be a very rockin' release for notebooks | 03:31 |
| Solarion | Mithrandir: I want dyntick tastiness and have (little) fear of unstable ubuntu thus far. :) | 03:31 |
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| Mithrandir | I'd probably have waited a week or two before diving into gutsy, but if you have a system you're not afraid of sacrificing.. | 03:32 |
| Solarion | *after* the comps presentation | 03:32 |
| Solarion | :) | 03:32 |
| Solarion | not a good idea to have breakage right before a big presentation | 03:32 |
| Solarion | is randr1.2 already included? | 03:33 |
| tepsipakki | Solarion: nope | 03:33 |
| Solarion | tepsipakki! | 03:33 |
| tepsipakki | ie. there is no xserver which uses it | 03:33 |
| Solarion | tepsipakki: I thought there was | 03:33 |
| tepsipakki | 1.3 is in debian now | 03:33 |
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| Solarion | stupid low battery | 03:37 |
| Solarion | randr is at 1.3 now? | 03:37 |
| tepsipakki | no, I meant that xorg-server 1.3 uses randr1.2 ;) | 03:39 |
| Solarion | ah, right. 1.3 comes after 7.2 or somethin.g ;) | 03:39 |
| Solarion | so when is xorg-server 1.3 supposed to be in ubuntu? | 03:39 |
| tepsipakki | 7.2 had xorg-server-1.2 | 03:39 |
| tepsipakki | 7.3 will have 1.4 | 03:39 |
| tepsipakki | Solarion: before gutsy is out, for sure :P | 03:40 |
| Solarion | probably should wait until it's actually released before pesting ye too much, eh? ;) | 03:40 |
| tepsipakki | 1.3 is released a few weeks ago | 03:40 |
| tepsipakki | was | 03:40 |
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| JohnFlux | Hey all | 03:55 |
| JohnFlux | there's a serious bug with ktorrent | 03:55 |
| JohnFlux | that crashes it (and hence probably exploitable) with bad input from outside | 03:55 |
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| JohnFlux | it's fixed upstream, but not in fiesty | 03:56 |
| crimsun | have you checked the proposed SRU? | 03:56 |
| JohnFlux | it would seem pretty important to update the package | 03:56 |
| JohnFlux | what's SRU sorry? | 03:56 |
| crimsun | /ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bugs/ | 03:56 |
| JohnFlux | where? | 03:56 |
| crimsun | StableReleaseUpdates | 03:56 |
| crimsun | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bugs/ | 03:57 |
| crimsun | 110881 to be precise | 03:58 |
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| crimsun | anyhow, ->class. | 03:58 |
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| jdong | johnflux: I've submitted a SRU for it already.... imbrandon said he'd review it :) | 04:05 |
| jdong | *cough* | 04:05 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:06 |
| JohnFlux | jdong: yeah was just looking at your patch | 04:07 |
| JohnFlux | thanks for doing that | 04:07 |
| JohnFlux | jdong: do you have a package for it ? | 04:07 |
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| JohnFlux | imbrandon: could you review jdong's patch please :-) | 04:11 |
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| imbrandon | JohnFlux: yes i will get to it today | 04:30 |
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| sharms | Can anyone tell me what problems are bugging you with the current fglrx driver? | 04:35 |
| Treenaks | - no composite | 04:39 |
| Treenaks | - closed source | 04:39 |
| Treenaks | need more? | 04:39 |
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| sharms | yeah I need to keep the scope to techical problems | 04:42 |
| pitti | sharms: reportedly the edgy->feisty upgrade broke fglrx for a friend of mine; that sounded like dropping support for older models | 04:43 |
| sharms | is there a bug report on it? | 04:43 |
| ScottK-laptop | Mithrandir: I'm trying to undertstand/correct an FTBFS problem that it was suggested on #ubuntu-motu I needed to talk to you about. I pastebinned the details here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18810/ | 04:45 |
| Mithrandir | ScottK-laptop: libtest-harness-perl is probably waiting in NEW. | 04:46 |
| Mithrandir | it'll be fixed whenever an archive admin processes it. | 04:46 |
| ScottK-laptop | Mithrandir: Is there a way I can check that? The binary successfully built last November? | 04:48 |
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| cjwatson | libtest-harness-perl | 2.64-1 | feisty/universe | source, all | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | libtest-harness-perl | 2.64-1 | gutsy/universe | source, all | 04:49 |
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| cjwatson | ScottK-laptop: feels like an sbuild bug to me. Provides shouldn't be able to satisfy versioned dependencies, but that appears to be what's happening. | 04:51 |
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| ScottK-laptop | Mithrandir: For Feisty anyway the binary is in the archive, I can apt-get install it on my laptop, so I don't think it's a NEW problem. | 04:51 |
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| cjwatson | it's certainly nothing to do with NEW | 04:52 |
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| ScottK-laptop | cjwatson: OK. Then what's the next step for me? | 04:52 |
| cjwatson | ScottK-laptop: infinity's probably the right person to talk to | 04:52 |
| ScottK-laptop | cjwatson: Thanks. | 04:53 |
| ScottK-laptop | infinity: Ping. ^^^ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18810/ | 04:53 |
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| jdong | JohnFlux: look upstream at ktorrent.org, I have made pbuildered unofficial packages for KTorrent 2.1.4 | 04:59 |
| jdong | JohnFlux: if it's really bugging you, use that package... turn off DHT... or wait for the fix.... | 05:00 |
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| dholbach | gpocentek: will you take care of gnumeric and goffice merge/update? | 05:08 |
| asac | cjwatson: any update on nspr/nss ? | 05:14 |
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| geser | ScottK-laptop: be patient, I also wait for a fix in sbuild | 05:20 |
| geser | you might also want to send him an e-mail as he doesn't write often here in the past time | 05:20 |
| pitti | seb128: yay bug 107484 - copy-package :) | 05:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107484 in control-center "Launch Music Player should be mapped to KEY_MEDIA (0xed in X)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107484 | 05:21 |
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| seb128 | rock on ;) | 05:21 |
| iwj | So it turns out you can upload the same debian/changelog to both gutsy and unstable. You just have to run dpkg-buildpackage twice and seddery the .changes (I didn't try dpkg-buildpackage -D). | 05:22 |
| ScottK-laptop | geser: Patient I am. Thanks. I will e-mail him. Maybe file a bug too. | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | iwj: i'm sure seddery isnt a verb :P | 05:22 |
| iwj | Hobbsee: Um, well, I used ed so I could have said I edded the .changes but no-one who didn't know me would know what I meant :-). | 05:26 |
| iwj | So I sedderied the changes; since I didn't use sed, I didn't sed them. | 05:27 |
| iwj | Your idiolect may vary. | 05:27 |
| jdong | sedderize is a verb.... | 05:27 |
| jdong | if one is going to verbify, it better be done right :D | 05:28 |
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| cjwatson | asac: I'm not quite sure. I'm sure I saw it in the queue earlier ... | 05:29 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: do you have any idea where nss and nspr went? I thought you were syncing them. | 05:30 |
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| azgtem | sorry for my problems | 05:35 |
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| azgtem | are all the recent boot/install (alternate) cds i386-incompatible? | 05:36 |
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| pitti | iwj: yay @ autopkgtest 0.8.2 :) | 05:41 |
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| iwj | pitti: :-) | 05:45 |
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| iwj | Sorry about the delay. | 05:45 |
| pitti | no problem, I had your test packages | 05:45 |
| iwj | Mmm. | 05:46 |
| iwj | No significant difference there for you I think. | 05:46 |
| iwj | Now I just need to plumb my freakazoided piuparts into cron. | 05:47 |
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| Nafallo | oh! | 05:55 |
| azgtem | are all the recent boot/install (alternate) cds i386-incompatible? | 05:55 |
| Nafallo | I just remembered. my ex-girlfriend installed 7.04 i386 yesterday. in fstab she had /dev/hda for cdrom | 05:56 |
| Nafallo | and now my gutsy had /dev/hdc for cdrom... | 05:56 |
| Nafallo | is this known? | 05:57 |
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| azgtem | Nafallo: what cpu? | 05:57 |
| tritium | Nafallo: is what known? that's a possible configuration | 05:58 |
| zyga | tritium: isn't the move to sdx affecting the cdrom's? | 05:58 |
| Nafallo | tritium: it was a clean, pure, new, installed system.. and the cdrom didn't have /dev/cdrom | 05:59 |
| tritium | Nafallo: ah, I see what you're getting at | 05:59 |
| tritium | zyga: I haven't seen any details on that | 05:59 |
| Nafallo | tritium: that broke gnome-mount for instance :-) | 05:59 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ | 05:59 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: what THAT can have to do with anything... :-P | 06:00 |
| Nafallo | should I go back and see if when I last had /dev/cdrom in my gutsy fstab? :-) | 06:00 |
| Nafallo | (daily backups) | 06:00 |
| azgtem | Nafallo: semprons 2800+ can't be 386 | 06:01 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: amd64 can run i386 code. that's not the problem. | 06:01 |
| gpocentek | dholbach: goffice is ready, I4ll take care of gnumeric tomorrow | 06:02 |
| dholbach | rock and roll | 06:02 |
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| azgtem | Nafallo: oh, so you were talking about your problem only, no referrence to mine, right? | 06:05 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: right | 06:05 |
| azgtem | are all the recent boot/install (alternate) cds i386-incompatible? i mean, are they supposed not to work on, say, k6-2? | 06:06 |
| Nafallo | seems silverfairy (the gutsy computer) have had /dev/hdc all the time, so no issue there. | 06:06 |
| azgtem | Nafallo: the new naming for hdds is sd* instead of hd*, iirc | 06:07 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: I know | 06:07 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: but cdroms are scd0 | 06:07 |
| azgtem | Nafallo: oh, didn't know thayt | 06:07 |
| azgtem | thayt | 06:07 |
| azgtem | that | 06:07 |
| azgtem | :)) | 06:07 |
| Nafallo | azgtem: so we should use /dev/cdrom, which is a symlink that will always point right if we don't screw it up in weird ways :-) | 06:08 |
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| ssam | is there much chance of Bug #109204 being fixed in feisty? it makes gnumeric mostly unusable on powerpc. the patch is tiny, has been commit up stream, and there are a few positive test reports. | 06:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109204 in goffice "Gnumeric strange colors (purple charts) on bigendian" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109204 | 06:09 |
| iwj | Hmm. My testbed just failed to reboot properly with EBUSY from mounting the rootfs in initramfs. | 06:11 |
| iwj | Just a normal hard disk partition. | 06:11 |
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| Alinux | hello all, for my "00:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)" wireless card th solution described here dosen't work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/63989/+viewstatus , maybe somoone knows howto fix ? | 06:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 63989 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Orinoco_pci affected by re-enabled prism2 drivers" [High,Confirmed] | 06:52 |
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| Riddell | infinity, Mithrandir: could you give back kdeaddons and kdesdk | 07:11 |
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| azgtem | so, are all the recent boot/install (alternate) cds i386-incompatible? i mean, are they supposed not to work on, say, k6-2? | 08:03 |
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| cjwatson | azgtem: K6-2 isn't exactly i386 ... anyway, the -generic kernels are CONFIG_M586=y which IIRC should work on K6-2 | 08:23 |
| cjwatson | azgtem: failing that, there's http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/mini.iso whose kernel is CONFIG_M486=y | 08:24 |
| cjwatson | azgtem: Debian-based systems haven't worked properly on *real* 386s for a while, due to changes upstream in the C++ standard library | 08:24 |
| azgtem | cjwatson: then look, why can't i boot recent cds (either they be live or installation cds, i386, of course) on a k6-2 computer? as soon as i press enter at the "boot:" prompt (no matter what kernel options, like noapic, vga, acpi, etc., etc., etc.) my computer simply restarts! | 08:24 |
| azgtem | cjwatson: and it looks like quite a low-level problem, since my computer restarts immediately in that moment, not after some attempt to load anything | 08:25 |
| cjwatson | I'm just giving you the facts as I understand them; I'm afraid I cannot help further | 08:25 |
| cjwatson | I assume you've filed a bug already? | 08:25 |
| azgtem | cjwatson: good, thanks a lot anyway | 08:25 |
| azgtem | cjwatson: no, not yet | 08:25 |
| azgtem | cjwatson: i was still trying to figure it out myself | 08:26 |
| jdong | cjwatson: can you do backport bug 111630? | 08:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111630 in feisty-backports "backport KTorrent 2.1.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111630 | 08:32 |
| jdong | for dapper, edgy, feisty. | 08:32 |
| cjwatson | jdong: not at the moment, sorry, I have a horrific amount to do before UDS | 08:32 |
| jdong | ah, mmmkay :) | 08:32 |
| cjwatson | and 1.something days to do it in | 08:33 |
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| cjwatson | asac: ah, I see now, nss and nspr needed a little bit of --forcing as they overwrote Ubuntu changes from another source package | 08:45 |
| asac | yes ... right xulrunner ... which will need redoing | 08:45 |
| cjwatson | I'm putting them through now | 08:45 |
| asac | perfect | 08:46 |
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| seb128 | asac: is firefox going to use xulrunner at some stage? | 08:46 |
| asac | at some stage yes | 08:46 |
| seb128 | we get a bug again this week from an user who want to get epiphany built with it | 08:47 |
| asac | yes right. i would vote to move xulrunner to main and build moz embedders against it | 08:47 |
| seb128 | well, that would duplicate your workload | 08:47 |
| asac | i can push xulrunner update on debian side i guess | 08:48 |
| seb128 | you would have to fix bug on firefox and xulrunner | 08:48 |
| seb128 | and another issue is CD space | 08:48 |
| asac | hmm | 08:48 |
| seb128 | to build yelp with xulrunner we would need to get it on the CD | 08:48 |
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| gxben | hile, someone knows which package/scripts handles x.org settings autodetection (for liveCD for example) ? | 08:49 |
| asac | ok, so unless i get firefox build against libxul we have to wait till ffox 3 i guess | 08:49 |
| seb128 | asac: right, I think there is no way around | 08:50 |
| seb128 | out of kicking firefox out of the CD | 08:50 |
| seb128 | and using epiphany as default browser ;) | 08:50 |
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| asac | hehe ... in fact making it build against libxul won't be a big problem ... the problem is to do this in a way that makes upstream happy as well ;) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | right | 08:52 |
| asac | why isn't there a gnome theme with firefox icons ... then epiphany would at least look a bit like firefox :) | 08:52 |
| seb128 | ah ah | 08:53 |
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| gnomefreak | ubuntu made the local paper :) | 08:56 |
| cjwatson_ | asac: source accepted, binaries will take a bit | 08:57 |
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| sbalneav | Hola from Spain! | 09:01 |
| sbalneav | Anyone happen to have ogra's cell #? | 09:01 |
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| troy_s | gnomefreak: Ubuntu made the BBC | 09:04 |
| gnomefreak | i know :) | 09:04 |
| troy_s | that's bonkers. | 09:04 |
| mc44 | it was even in the business section :) | 09:05 |
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| === lamont kicks networkmanagler | ||
| lamont | gaim | 09:11 |
| lamont | libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error. | 09:11 |
| lamont | (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files | 09:11 |
| lamont | so why is it that gaim doesn't Depend: network-manager? | 09:11 |
| lamont | (which would be bad...) | 09:11 |
| lamont | alternatively, is there a way to hook into network mangler so that I can fix things after it gets done breaking them? | 09:15 |
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| cjwatson | asac: is there some magic trick that mozilla hackers use to manage to work effectively with bugzilla.mozilla.org? it's always so incredibly slow any time I try it | 09:17 |
| asac | cjwatson: maybe you should refine your search? | 09:19 |
| asac | cjwatson: what kind of query do you run? | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | asac: the front page | 09:20 |
| asac | cjwatson: try advance search page | 09:20 |
| asac | and only search for title | 09:21 |
| cjwatson | ah, a little network configuration later and it is somewhat better | 09:21 |
| cjwatson | never mind me :) | 09:21 |
| asac | cjwatson: so you are doing bug triaging for mozillateam :) ? | 09:26 |
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| ubijtsa | evening | 09:26 |
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| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: good afternoon | 09:27 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: :-P | 09:27 |
| cjwatson | asac: no :-), just a bit of research | 09:27 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: I guess you be in the US then :) | 09:27 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: indeed | 09:27 |
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| === ubijtsa is well impressed with Feisty | ||
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: i'm even more impressed seeing that Michael Dell uses Feisty on his personal laptop | 09:29 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: lol | 09:29 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: but, that's off topic ... | 09:29 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: lets just say that where I work that has caused some debate | 09:29 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: haters | 09:30 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: how do you mean? | 09:30 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: no matter what people will always find controversy in everything (Dell's lying, he's not using that. Why not Fedora/Xandros/Any other) ... you get the idea | 09:31 |
| ubijtsa | rite... | 09:31 |
| ubijtsa | still has a lot of people saying less than well thought through things.. | 09:31 |
| ubijtsa | serious question to the devs here, for Feisty+1, will the Xen patches that Red Hat has in RHEL5 be incorporated? | 09:33 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: funny you mention that as i'm just working on Xen on Centos 5 (redhat5 variant) | 09:33 |
| asac | cjwatson: if you need anything specicifc from bugzilla, let me know ;) ... i am now mostly gone | 09:34 |
| keescook | lamont: you had mentioned to me a while back that newer bind9's had a better solution for the "allow-recursion { localnets; };" hack I added to ubuntu. how should I change that for 9.4.1 ? | 09:34 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: RHEL5's Xen 3.0.3 is very stable (what I can see, and I have run it since Beta1) | 09:34 |
| cjwatson | asac: thanks | 09:34 |
| lamont | keescook: uh... dunno... the default is now to do the right thing, rather than what you did in 9.3.... | 09:34 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: you can assume (safely) that the patches will be incorporated upstream and they will go to Ubuntu as well... but that's just my guess | 09:34 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: I tried Xen with Eft, and that was not a pleasurable experience... | 09:35 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: what's Eft ? | 09:35 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: Ubuntu 6.10 | 09:35 |
| keescook | lamont: ah, so by default 9.4.1 isn't available to open recursion? if that's true, I'll just do a direct sync | 09:35 |
| cjwatson | ubijtsa: (normally "Edgy") | 09:35 |
| ubijtsa | cjwatson: ah, I'll use that for future :) | 09:36 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: ah, Edgy is a real name ... ;-) I have not dare using Xen on debian-based systems yet (in 1 year of using Xen) | 09:36 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: have you use xen on Feisty yet? | 09:37 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: what I have seen (I have still to raise a bug in Malone) is within 5 mins, Edgy will reboot the box | 09:37 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: no pae on your CPU ? | 09:37 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: I have the kernel installed, just have to update the dom-U | 09:37 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: yes, it's a Duron, it has PAE | 09:38 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: where did you get the binaries for xen? compiled it yourself? | 09:38 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: no, straight out of the distro | 09:38 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: universe? i didn't know they existed for Edgy | 09:39 |
| ubijtsa | lemsx1: perhaps.. you saying that it's been moved in to main in Feisty? | 09:40 |
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| === ubijtsa has to take a better look at this | ||
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| ubijtsa | no, still in universe | 09:42 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: yeah, in universe | 09:42 |
| lemsx1 | ubijtsa: i didn't even see the Xen stuff during my short time with Edgy | 09:42 |
| ubijtsa | might be better to await Xen 3.0.5 in Ubuntu.. | 09:43 |
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| pitti | erk, auto-sync mails go to the normal gutsy-changes@ now? | 09:50 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: I passed NOMAILS=-M (or NOMAIL=-M), so I thought not. | 09:51 |
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| Mithrandir | cjwatson: nss, nspr> ignored since they overwrote other binaries, I started doing a first pass, well, first and then I was going to look at the other new ones. | 09:52 |
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| cjwatson | Mithrandir: yep, it's ok, I did it | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | pitti: only NEW | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | I wasn't sure, couldn't remember how we'd done new synced source in the past | 09:53 |
| pitti | oh, that's a lot :) | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | I can use q -M if people would prefer it that way | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | ? | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | I'm fine with autosynced NEW going to -changes. | 09:54 |
| pitti | yeah, it's largely just an one-time flood | 09:54 |
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| mario_ | hi codingmaster | 10:04 |
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| codingmaster | hello :) | 10:04 |
| pygi | are you tracking me or something? :P | 10:04 |
| codingmaster | nope | 10:04 |
| codingmaster | joining ubuntu-devel :p | 10:04 |
| pygi | you join same second as I did :p | 10:05 |
| codingmaster | ok :p | 10:05 |
| pitti | hi codingmaster | 10:10 |
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| pygi | pitti! :) | 10:10 |
| pygi | pitti, we'll have a working brasero in feisty now, yay :P | 10:10 |
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| cjwatson | binary NEW is going to be unbelievably horrific after this | 10:11 |
| pygi | cjwatson, did libburn and libisofs went through NEW? | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | not yet | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | anything with 'ubuntu' in the version number we tend to review rather than just waving past | 10:12 |
| pygi | ah, oki ^_^ | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | (which is not an argument for leaving 'ubuntu' out of the version number!) | 10:12 |
| pygi | got it ^_^ Well, siretart and me checked it ... should be all fine ;) | 10:12 |
| codingmaster | hey pitti :) | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | I'm sure it is, we just haven't had a chance to do it yet | 10:13 |
| pygi | pitti, you all good? :) | 10:13 |
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| Kmos | pitti is in the channel | 10:13 |
| pitti | pygi: sure! | 10:14 |
| pygi | pitti, glad to hear | 10:15 |
| lamont | keescook: correct. Which means that you now get a conffile change question if anyone edited the file that changed in ubuntu with 9.3... | 10:16 |
| lamont | that's why I stuck my fingers in my ears for debian and said "fixed in 9.4." :-) | 10:17 |
| lamont | keescook: allow-recursion localhost; allow-cache-query localnets; iirc | 10:17 |
| cjwatson | Mithrandir: please sync-blacklist linux-modules-di-mips-2.6 (you have it open, so I can't) | 10:18 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: blacklisted | 10:19 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 10:19 |
| pygi | we're blacklisting more and more :P | 10:19 |
| Mithrandir | pygi: the blacklist is still quite short. | 10:19 |
| pygi | Mithrandir, probably, but it's growing ^_^ | 10:20 |
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| cjwatson | pygi: in this case, it's just another specific example of a category that's been blacklisted since hoary | 10:30 |
| pygi | got it ^_^ | 10:33 |
| tepsipakki | what is holding back MoM from working? | 10:33 |
| bryce | tepsipakki: did you see DaD? http://adrishost.homeip.net/DaD/merges/ | 10:35 |
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| tepsipakki | bryce: yes, but that doesn't have main | 10:35 |
| tepsipakki | ..not that there isn't enough to do in universe ;) | 10:36 |
| Adri2000 | tepsipakki: do you want it for main as well? | 10:36 |
| tepsipakki | Adri2000: I guess it would be useful | 10:37 |
| pitti | Adri2000: indeed it would; the main advantage of MoM from my perspective is the bookkeeping and TODO list | 10:37 |
| Lutin | pitti: what's bookkeeping ? | 10:38 |
| pitti | Lutin: trackign 'touched it last' uploader and what needs to be merged still | 10:39 |
| Lutin | pitti: ok | 10:39 |
| Adri2000 | Lutin: the current code should work for main/restricted, but we will wait until we have moved to the new, dedicated server (in a few days) | 10:41 |
| Adri2000 | err | 10:41 |
| Adri2000 | pitti, tepsipakki: ^ | 10:41 |
| pygi | Adri2000, nice ^_^ | 10:42 |
| pitti | thanks Adri2000 | 10:42 |
| tepsipakki | Adri2000: okay | 10:42 |
| pygi | pitti, when do we get new REVU? :) | 10:45 |
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| pitti | pygi: erm, I'm not a REVU guy | 10:45 |
| pygi | pitti, I know :P | 10:45 |
| pygi | I'm just randomly bugging :) | 10:45 |
| pygi | I thought it was worked on and discussed two cycles ago :( | 10:46 |
| pygi | I don't forget things that easily you know =) | 10:48 |
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| pitti | Good night everyone! | 10:51 |
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| pygi | vrodic, pozdrav :) | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | morning | 10:59 |
| pygi | ajmitch, morning ^_^ | 10:59 |
| vrodic | pygi, pozdrav... ti si bio u medi sada? | 11:00 |
| pygi | vrodic, nop :) | 11:00 |
| vrodic | vrodic, kakvim developmentom se ti bavis? | 11:01 |
| vrodic | boze, pygi | 11:01 |
| pygi | vrodic, english pls :P | 11:01 |
| pygi | or pm :) | 11:01 |
| vrodic | okay | 11:01 |
| vrodic | pygi, so what kind of development do you do? | 11:01 |
| pygi | I switched to pm now, ergh :P | 11:01 |
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| pygi | vrodic, depends who you ask :) | 11:02 |
| vrodic | pygi, don't know.. among people present at the meeting there were only two or three (if you include me) were software developers | 11:04 |
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| pygi | vrodic, who was at the meeting anyway? | 11:05 |
| pygi | Senko, Ante, etc? | 11:05 |
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| vrodic | pygi, ivoks, splivalo, ante nije bio | 11:06 |
| pygi | ante = ivoks o.O | 11:06 |
| vrodic | pygi, i'm semi drunk :) | 11:06 |
| vrodic | pygi, senko nije bio | 11:06 |
| pygi | so drunk that you can't auth so we can switch to pm, and not pollute the channel? :P | 11:06 |
| vrodic | pygi, now now, it's been a while since i last used IRC.. i'll need to setup my router for identd | 11:08 |
| pygi | why would you need to configure router for that o.O | 11:08 |
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| pygi | plus wth? Identd? How drunk are you? | 11:09 |
| vrodic | it says No identd (auth) response | 11:10 |
| vrodic | so i guess i'll need to open up a redirection from my router port 113 to my machine | 11:10 |
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| vrodic | pygi, i guess i'm pretty drunk :) | 11:15 |
| pygi | nod | 11:16 |
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| Kano | hi, how to compile the linux-headers-2.6.22-2 package from gutsy git? | 11:21 |
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| Kano | debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic | 11:21 |
| Kano | does not create em | 11:21 |
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| root____1 | . | 11:30 |
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| ion_ | *Not* a good idea. | 11:31 |
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| poningru | anyone around who can give some info re: UDS? | 11:56 |
| poningru | wondering if there will be gobby, voip, and irc like last year | 11:56 |
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