[09:47] <vil> hi doko, there seem to be some problem with OOO
[09:47] <vil> anything I open, it shuts down immediately
[09:55] <man-di> vil: some debian people reported the same on unstable
[09:55] <man-di> but s/shutdown/segfault/
[09:56] <vil> man-di, right, I did not investigate it at all
[09:56] <man-di> I dont followed that either
[09:56] <man-di> I just read it in some irc channel
[09:57] <vil> man-di, can I ask you for some eclipse woodoo?
[09:57] <man-di> sure, you can ask
[09:57] <vil> I am playing with WTP with an web application
[09:58] <vil> I also use the deploy function provided by WTP
[09:58] <vil> the web app is somehow specific that I need to run hand-made build.xml before eclipse creates a war to be deployed on the server
[09:59] <vil> do you have any idea how to do that?
[09:59] <man-di> no, I never really used WTP for more stuff then editing html and xml pages
[09:59] <vil> I created a new builder under the project properties, but it seems to be executed only when I explicitly say Clean... (which forces rebuild)
[10:00] <vil> and what about the builders stuff, that's not wtp specific, that's general
[10:00] <man-di> builders have a flag if they are automatically build on save or not
[10:01] <man-di> I dont know if this tis accessible form the GUI or only in the XML in the .project file
[10:02] <vil> any tutorial on that?
[10:03] <man-di> google?
[10:03] <man-di> no, I dont really know
[10:04] <vil> np
[10:04] <vil> thanks for pointing this out
[10:06] <man-di> damn, 3.3. will rock
[10:07] <vil> will it?
[10:08] <vil> I gave it a ride this week, but I was dissapointed by obvious bugs (but it was WTP not eclipse itself)
[10:09] <man-di> I only tested 3.3M6 SDK so far
[10:09] <man-di> and obvious bugs will be fleshed out
[10:10] <man-di> 3.3 + JDK6 has some nice new features while debugging
[12:00] <amingus> I am a newbie....
[12:01] <amingus> Is this programming or can I get help with runtime  update?