DktrKranzLutin, adjusted, could you please check?12:14
LutinDktrKranz: sure12:15
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Fujitsujmg: Nice! I didn't realise it had made such major news outlets.12:24
jmgFujitsu: i imagine there will be a call made from BillG to MichaelD sometime soon12:25
LutinDktrKranz: commited12:25
DktrKranzthanks, again :)12:26
ajmitchyay, apache 1.3 will be killed from sid soon12:27
ajmitchbecause they don't want to be supporting it in 3 years time?12:27
Burgworkonly BBC12:28
ajmitchseriously, they remove things now, because they have to support them for the lifetime of lenny development & whatever follows12:28
ajmitchsame with php412:29
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DktrKranzajmitch, is that news on some ML?12:29
ajmitchDktrKranz: just debian-devel12:29
DktrKranzok, I'm going to search12:29
DktrKranzPHP 4 too?12:29
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ajmitchof course12:29
FujitsuI'm devastated at the loss of both.12:29
FujitsuThey were such valuable assets.12:30
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Burgworkajmitch: you know more about this DaD?12:39
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LutinBurgwork: is there something in particular you want to know ?12:40
FujitsuBurgwork: DaD is the work of Lutin.12:40
Lutinand ajmitch 12:40
Lutinerr. Adri2000 12:40
BurgworkLutin: nah, just interested for the UWN12:40
ajmitchnot me12:40
ajmitchI don't do anything useful like that12:40
Lutinyou do tons of other useful things12:41
ajmitchLutin: oh really?12:41
Amaranthcompiz is now getting some really weird bugs filed against it12:41
FujitsuAmaranth: eg?12:42
Amaranthbug 11145412:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111454 in compiz "Insane CPU usage with compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11145412:42
Lutinajmitch: sure :)12:42
ajmitchLutin: I just show up lots on irc12:42
BurgworkLutin: does it do everything MoM did?12:42
Burgworkhow do people get involved in development, etc12:42
Amaranthalthough this guy didn't file it against compiz, seb128 moved it there12:42
FujitsuBurgwork: No, it doesn't do everything MoM did. One big aspect of MoM that is missing is the being out of date.12:42
LutinBurgwork: apart the fact it lists only uni/multiverse merges :)12:43
FujitsuI really don't think evolution-data-server is going to be affected by compiz.12:43
BurgworkLutin: one suggestion on the UI: I would link directly to the patch file in the UI12:44
ajmitchit doesn't have the fancy graphs12:44
Burgworkoh, and make the bug links clickable12:44
Fujitsuajmitch: Oh no!12:44
Adri2000Burgwork: I've just sent a mail about DaD to ubuntu-devel :)12:44
BurgworkLP lacks shiny graphs12:44
AmaranthI'm thinking I should just blame nvidia-glx for this bug :)12:44
FujitsuBurgwork: They're textboxes, so it's not really possible.12:44
BurgworkAdri2000: just saw that12:44
Burgworkhence my questions/comments12:44
AmaranthIt makes the kernel do something eds doesn't like ;)12:44
AmaranthWhat does DaD stand for?12:45
Adri2000Burgwork: bugs number linkable is not possible, because comments are in an unput type=text so that they can be modified12:45
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LutinAmaranth: suggestions are welcome :)12:45
geserAmaranth: it's the counterpart to MoM12:45
Adri2000Amaranth: nothing for the moment, it's just MoM...DaD :p12:45
AmaranthIt has to be Debian something12:46
FujitsuAdri2000: Maybe you could parse the comment, and add a `(bug)' link next to it if it's a bug reference. It'd be useful to have the link somewhere.12:46
ograBurgwork, to answer your question from #ltsp ... dhcpd checks for a matching interface on startup ... if it has a subnet declaration for an interface it will bind to it12:46
BurgworkDone already in Debian?12:46
Burgworkogra: ah,, thanks12:46
geserDebian-assisted-Desaster :)12:46
ogradoes anybody know who runs the christian edition ? 12:47
Lutingeser: :)12:47
ajmitchpretty much what I answered :)12:47
welshbytewhy don't the MoM devs get together with the DaD devs and make a BaBY?  *duck*12:47
Adri2000Fujitsu: adding to TODO, I'll try to do that12:47
ograi seem to have gotten an email wrongly i'd like to forward to the right ppl12:47
Lutinwelshbyte: hehe 12:47
Amaranthogra: It has developers? I thought it just appeared one day12:47
FujitsuEw, CE is bright orange.12:48
Amaranthyour best bet is probably their subforum on ubuntuforums.org12:48
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AmaranthI don't even know if they have a website12:48
FujitsuAmaranth: christianubuntu.com?12:48
FujitsuWhich redirects to whatwouldjesusdownload.com12:49
ograah, right ... 12:49
Amaranthyou're kidding12:49
FujitsuAmaranth: Unfortunately not.12:49
ograwasnt raphnik involved there as well ? or was that ichthux ?12:50
Fujitsuogra: That was Ichthux.12:50
FujitsuI'm not sure what massive benefits CE has over Ichthux.12:50
ajmitchichthux actually has known developers, and packages in universe12:50
Fujitsuajmitch: Which must be a downside.12:50
AmaranthI thought CE was a script run on top of default ubuntu to change it12:51
ajmitchFujitsu: why?12:51
Fujitsuajmitch: Why else would CE exist?12:51
Amaranthwhile Ichthux was a real distro12:51
FujitsuHm, they have a link Ichthux on their sidebar.12:51
ajmitchI think CE was around first, in vague form12:51
Amaranthit was12:51
FujitsuAmaranth: Ichthux has a script to install on top of default Ubuntu as well. It's called `sudo apt-get install ichthux-desktop'12:52
BurgworkFujitsu: pish, your sane install methods12:52
AmaranthFujitsu: haha12:52
ajmitchthat's like comparing kubuntu-desktop with automatix12:52
Burgworkgive me crackish script any day12:52
LaserJockCE was after Ichthux12:52
ajmitchLaserJock: oh was it?12:52
LaserJockthe CE guy got the idea about a year after Ichthux was started by raphink12:53
LaserJockhe got the idea from Ichthux, rather12:53
ajmitchah yes, ichthux was debian-based awhile ago12:53
LaserJockit was first a Knoppix remix12:54
LaserJockthen was going to be a CDD since there were a few DDs involved12:54
LaserJockthen since raphink got involved with Kubuntu it became Kubuntu based12:54
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TheMusoHey MOTUs.01:13
ajmitchhi TheMuso 01:13
dabaRIts MsOTU01:14
dabaRIt's It's01:14
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ScottKHeya TheMuso.01:16
Lutinhey TheMuso 01:18
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Adri2000Fujitsu, Burgwork: bug links are now clickable01:28
ajmitchAdri2000: yay!01:28
FujitsuAdri2000: Great :)01:28
ajmitchhow'd you do it?01:28
Adri2000eh, and same bug as in LP, debian bug #nnnnn is matched :p01:28
ajmitchyeah, but input fields?01:28
Adri2000ajmitch: look, it's not clickable in the input field01:29
Adri2000there is a link in the "package" column01:29
ajmitchright, I hadn't refreshed01:29
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RAOFIf anyone's around, I'd just like to check that bug #111651 looks right for my first sync request.02:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111651 in banshee "banshee: Sync 0.12.1+dfsg-3 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11165102:45
shawarmaRAOF: At a glance, it looks fine. I can recommend the requestsync script in the devscripts package, though.02:49
shawarmaRAOF: If it bitches about a missing e-mail, you should just set the DEBEMAIL environment variable.02:49
RAOFThanks.  I'll check it out next time.02:49
RAOFI already do :)02:50
TheMusorequestsync is only currently useful for MOTUs02:50
TheMusoAs it automatically subscribes ubuntu-archive admins.02:50
shawarmaTheMuso: Oh, right. I forget.02:50
RAOFOooh, not a good idea for me then :)02:50
TheMusoProbably wouldn't be hard to add a command-line flag to make it subscribe uus or ums where necessary.02:51
TheMusoI may look into that.02:51
shawarmaRAOF: Of course you could comment that bit out of the script.02:51
RAOFMan, democracyplayer's going to kill me *again* :(02:51
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RAOFTheMuso: devscripts are python, right?  And published in bzr on launchpad?02:52
TheMusoRAOF: Don't know. Afaik only requestsync is python.02:52
TheMusoThe rest are mostly perl.02:52
RAOFUgh, don't know perl.02:53
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TheMusoAnyways, I may add that to the script later if I get a chance.02:57
TheMusothe uus/ums stuff.02:57
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RAOFEh, looks simple enough that I could do it myself.02:57
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TheMusoRAOF: Ok if you want to.03:02
TheMusoRAOF: I feel that having something like that will still make the script useful to non-MOTUs.03:03
TheMusoProbably wouldn't hurt to write a manpage for it as well. I may do that at some point.03:03
TheMusoBack later.03:05
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ajmitchso what's new?03:07
ajmitchuniverse merged yet?03:07
FujitsuOf course.03:10
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ajmitchwhen an archive admin has time03:11
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ajmitchI guess that's less ubuntu time for me tonight03:15
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ajmitchwhat a shame03:16
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bddebianHeya gang03:31
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FujitsuHi bddebian.03:31
RAOFHey bddebian 03:32
bddebianHi Fujitsu, RAOF03:32
bddebianso WTF is dh_gtkmodules ?  That's a new one on me03:32
joejaxxHello Everyone03:32
bddebianHeya joejaxx03:33
joejaxxtime for me to do some merges03:33
ajmitchoh, it's bddebian 03:33
bddebianRecognize the WTF did ya?03:33
ajmitchyes, I should just put an /ignore line in for anything containing 'wtf' or similar03:34
ajmitchit'd probably cut down on a lot of traffic03:34
bddebian*boo hoo*03:34
jmgajmitch, ignore is client side03:34
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ajmitchjmg: I'm aware of that03:34
ajmitchI mean visible noise03:34
jmglines per hour03:35
ajmitchit'd probably mean a few MB less each month in the logs03:35
Lathiatya'll should check digg.com today03:38
FujitsuLathiat: Same on /.03:39
LathiatOne story was posted and deleted by digg.com after 16,000 diggs03:39
Lathiatnow its covered03:39
FujitsuSomebody added a tag to the article.03:39
Lathiatheh yeh03:39
jmgthat key is so going to get blacklisted03:39
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Lathiatoh, naturally03:39
jmgif not, ill get it as a tattoo03:39
TeslHey everyone =)03:41
TeslI'm in an interesting position right now, I'm working as a software developer but right now (and for a few weeks by the looks of things) I have completely nothing to do, so figured I could start getting involved in doing some development over here =')03:42
ScottKHi Tesl03:44
ScottKWhat are you interested in?03:44
TeslRight now I'm just spending today finishing up a study tool (Features are all there, the code is just veryyyy hacked up right now!) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jlst)03:45
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bddebianwb TheMuso03:45
TeslI'm not sure particularly, My development background is mostly C++, but with a fair bit of Java/Python too03:45
TeslAnd shell scripting if required :] 03:46
ScottKCool.  Do you have any background with Debian packaging?03:46
TeslI've been doing quite a lot of GUI related work lately using Glade, kinda enjoying that03:46
TeslNot so much =/03:46
ScottKTesl: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or ?03:47
bddebianbluekuja: ping?03:47
TeslThis laptop is actually Fedora Core 6 =P03:47
TeslBut Ubuntu03:47
ScottKLack of packaging background is fine, this is a good place to learn.03:47
ScottKOK.  I won't point you at KDE stuff then... (I use Kubuntu).03:47
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TeslI've written code before using QT3, but not for a pretty long time now03:48
ScottKbddebian just needs a little more age and wisdom.03:48
RAOFHeh, if you wanted some actual coding work, I'm sure Kubuntu would *love* to have the restricted-manager ported to QT :)03:49
ScottKTesl: Found any bugs that annoy you and you want to fix?03:49
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TeslNot particularly, or at least nothing that I'd feel particularly capable of fixing myself (ie, weird beryl behaviour, or printer drivers :P)03:50
ScottKEarlier today crimsun was saying that bughelper needs help with coding and it's in Python.03:50
TeslI'm really enjoying Python, only started using it a few months back but it's totally stolen my heart heh03:51
ScottKTesl: Where we are now is early in the development process for Gutsy to be released in October.  Looking through Launchpad to find something you'd like to try and fix is a great way to get started.03:52
ScottKTesl: You can then come here and get help packaging your fix for upload and start to learn about that too.03:52
TeslSounds good =)03:52
TeslThanks ScottK, I appreciate the help03:53
ScottKTesl: No problem.  We've got about 20,000 open bugs (Not all valid of course) so we can use all the help we can get.  Thanks for showing up to contribute.03:53
TeslDownloading Feisty just now, I've another machine sat next to me which I can turn into my new dev machine for this :] 03:53
bddebianWow, ScottK becomes the MOTU PR man :-)03:54
ScottKIf I can't upload, I can recruit.03:55
TheMusoTesl: Once you have feisty set up, I suggest you set up a gutsy pbuilder and chroot. Chroot instructions are found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot03:55
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ScottKTesl: On another topic, since you're running FC and like Python - have you ever contributed/updated packages for Fedora (I need help with that with another hat on)?03:56
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TheMusoTesl: Setting up pbuilder can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto03:58
TeslTheMuso, I've Feisty on one laptop and I'm putting it on another, but I'll be sure to do just that03:58
TeslScottK, I've never contributed to Fedora, but I have built RPM's before (admittedly, not recently)03:59
ScottKTesl: Thanks.  I'm looking for someone who understands the contribution process (I've got RPM spec files contributed already) I understand it's somewhat Byzentine. 04:00
ScottKNevermind - was off topic here anyway.04:00
TeslNo problem :] 04:00
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TeslAhh finally a decent DL speed. I'm based in Japan right now, so its always upsetting when I'm downloading at anything less than 1mb/s heh04:03
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bddebianGah, I'm dragging butt, I'm going to bed.  Gnight folks04:15
ajmitchbye bddebian 04:16
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ajmitchhello Burgundavia 05:01
jmgwhats the right place to raise a bug for laptop support (terrible acpi, broken sound)?05:01
Burgundaviahey ajmitch05:01
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Burgundavia elkbuntu: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-planet-editorial-policy05:23
Burgundaviaand anybody else who wants to look at it05:23
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FujitsuIs there a no-posting-aacs-processing-keys clause?05:25
BurgundaviaFujitsu: that would fall under the "company objects to post"05:25
FujitsuI haven't actually read it yet.05:25
Burgundaviaillegial content is an interesting question05:25
FujitsuBut that key isn't necessarily illegal.05:25
jdongbotuthe key is illegal....05:25
FujitsuSurely a 128-bit number can't be copyrighted.05:26
Burgundaviaonly is certain counties05:26
jdongbotuin the USA it is05:26
jdongbotuDMCA's flying everywhere05:26
FujitsuSure, but DMCA-takedowns seem to be issued for everything these days.05:26
jdongbotutaking a look at digg.com....05:26
Burgundaviahmm, it probably should mention the DMCA in there05:27
tonyyarussoOnly use of the key is illegal, not knowledge of it, afaik ianal05:27
jdongbotutonyyarusso: apparently the key itself is protected from DMCA05:27
jdongbotubecause you can't distribute it05:27
jdongbotubut IANAL05:27
jdongbotuI am jdongbotu, the all knowing bot.05:27
Burgundaviathings you gain for illegal activies tend to be illegal05:27
FujitsuI like the proposed pirate flags, resulting from converting it to hex colours.05:28
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jdongbotuFujitsu: lol yes :)05:28
jdongbotuFWIW I have it as my wallpaper05:28
Fujitsujdongbotu: Me too!05:28
jdongbotuI have it on irssi alias too05:28
FujitsuIt's a little unfortunate that it's a byte too long :(05:28
jdongbotujust for the heck of it05:28
jdongbotuFujitsu: that... bites.05:28
Burgundavialinky to the image?05:28
jdongbotuit's pretty beautiful on the eyes too05:29
FujitsuIt's very LP.05:29
jdongbotuFujitsu: coincidence? :)05:29
FujitsuHas everybody heard the song?05:30
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jdongbotuFujitsu: I've heard about it :)05:30
FujitsuSo, Fabian blogged about the Dell deal before the embargo was actually lifted?05:31
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ajmitch"Perhaps a new release plan should be developed so all bugs are fixed for new releases.05:32
ajmitchvery funny05:32
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jdongajmitch: anyone reply back "it's called debian"?05:32
ajmitchjdong: of course05:33
jdongproblem solved :)05:33
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Fujitsu3. A clean install of the release is done daily on the PC, using the daily ISOs. Not being able to install on the PC is a release blocking bug. Not being able to boot the PC to gdm is a release blocking bug.05:47
FujitsuGreat idea, forum users!05:47
FujitsuLet's reinstall our systems daily!05:47
ajmitchFujitsu: this is for specific testing, of course05:48
BurgundaviaFujitsu: that is sane05:49
Burgundaviawhat most forums people don't see is that their bug is not everybodies05:49
ajmitchan example used in that post is importing into f-spot05:49
ajmitchwhereas you need to test importing with many types of cameras & images05:49
ajmitchit has to be broader testing, rather than repetitive05:50
Fujitsuajmitch: So we need to get every type of camera! Duh.05:50
ajmitchtime for a caffeine run05:51
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ajmitchFujitsu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/11166806:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111668 in gaim "internet running slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  06:06
FujitsuWe need something like Digg, but for Malone bugs.06:07
jmgchop chop06:07
ajmitchFujitsu: might as well reply that the dead bits of gaim are clogging the tubes06:07
jmgajmitch +106:08
jdongbe nice :)06:08
jdongI'm sure he actually suspects that some sort of gaim deadlock is slowing down his network06:08
persiajdong: Easy to reproduce: connect with a modem & join a high-bandwidth warez channel06:11
FujitsuCall the plumber.06:11
jdonglol, but seriously06:11
jdongwe've had positive ID of a bunch of KTorrent bugs where it would go ballistic and try to map infinite numbers of UDP connections06:11
jdongand manage to drop out connectivity for an entire NAT06:12
ajmitchthat's pretty special06:12
jdongso it isn't 100% ridiculous to suspect a crashed gaim can peg the network06:12
Burgundaviawow, glad I run GNOME06:12
jdongBurgundavia: your GNOME torrenting apps are worse ;-)06:12
Burgundaviabecause GNOME is bug free06:12
Burgundaviaeverybody knows that :)06:12
jdongyay deluge!06:13
jdongand Azureus!06:13
jmgbug free, as in bugs for free06:13
jdongand you have that crusty 8-year-old bittorrent-3.4.2 also :D06:13
Burgundaviathat is due to bittorrent changing their license06:13
FujitsuBurgundavia: Obviously GNOME's fault.06:15
Burgundaviaclearly, just like povery and war06:15
ajmitchand world hunger06:15
jdonguh huh :)06:15
FujitsuWe cause all problems.06:16
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Burgundaviano, world hunger is caused by KDE06:16
ajmitchall you need to do is install enlightenment06:16
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jmgyay forkbombs06:18
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crimsunpersia: ping, what do you wish to discuss WRT audacity 1.2.6?06:24
persiacrimsun: You changed to a lot of --system libraries (especially for portaudio).  I just wanted to find out why, so as to determine whether to maintain the delta.  Also, I was curious about disabling resampling.06:25
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ajmitchhello Hobbsee 06:27
RAOFHeya Hobbsee 06:27
crimsunpersia: sec, alsa triage ATM.06:27
persiacrimsun: No rush.  Audacity won't install for anyone until the libflac5++ migration is done anyway :)06:27
Hobbseehi ajmitch, RAOF 06:29
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crimsunpersia: at the date of the original 1.2.6 merge, samplerate and resample usage were mutually exclusive.  ALSA and JACK support had been requested for sometime, so I hacked in support for the system PA19.06:33
persiacrimsun: Thanks.  I'll check upstream re: samplerate/resample, and use internal libraries as Debian (so long as ALSA/JACK works).06:35
crimsunWhy am I so surprised that XFS beats the pants off JFS for streaming x264 encodes?  Hmph.06:36
RAOFI would've thought that the FS overhead would be insignificant compared to the processing required?06:37
jdongRAOF: probably cache flushing06:38
jdongbut XFS streaming performance rocks06:38
jdongand you don't end up with a file in 15000 fragments like ext306:38
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TheMusocrimsun: Do you normally use JFS?07:09
crimsunTheMuso: on external USB drives, yes.07:10
TheMusoAh ok.07:10
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ranfUmm, my very first upload to REVU was binary. How do I use dcut now? "dcut revu rm x.changes" ?07:24
Fujitsuranf: dcut doesn't work on REVU. Ask a REVU admin to help.07:24
ranfFujitsu: ok07:25
ajmitchranf: package name?07:25
ranfajmitch: wtmptail07:25
ranfgreat. thanks07:25
ranfNow it's the source pkg. I'm not sure if I picked a too simple package as a starter.07:27
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RAOFWhen are packages in main likely to be finished merging/syncing (particularly: python-support 0.6).  I just want to know whether to wait for that before merging democracyplayer.08:10
HobbseeRAOF: whne they all build08:10
ajmitchand when the ones that failed have been given back again\08:11
RAOFOh, it's just automatic merge/sync?08:11
ajmitchsince it can take a few tries to ram some of them through :)08:11
ajmitchmerging is always done manually08:11
ajmitchand will mostly be done after UDS08:11
crimsunI tend to not shove in merges until the first round finishes.08:11
crimsunlet the dust settle a bit; it hasn't been open very long.08:12
RAOFOk.  So I can put off wrestling with democracyplayer again.08:13
RAOFHeh, maybe upstream will release a fixed version before I touch it again :)08:13
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BurgundaviaRAOF: democracy player is a great idea08:23
Burgundaviajust not a great implementation08:23
RAOFI'm not totally sure why it's firefox, really.08:24
RAOFXUL is great, as long as you want to look awkwardly out of place *everywhere*08:24
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ajmitchhi viviersf 08:28
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viviersfelo ajmitch 08:39
crimsunimbrandon: ping, there's a request for rsync service for xubuntu isos on imbrandon.com.08:42
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dholbachGOOD MORNING08:56
=== dholbach HUGS crimsun
ajmitchHEY DANIEL(s)!08:57
dholbachhey ajmitch08:58
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=== jussi01 tickles dholbach
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jussi01hi Daniel09:04
dholbachhow's it going?09:04
jussi01good thanks, you manage to take a look at waon yet?09:05
jussi01hows yourself?09:05
dholbachno no yet09:06
dholbachI'm quite busy atm, sorry09:06
jussi01ok, np's whenever you get to it :D09:06
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jussi01dholbach: btw, I have a question, gpocentek said something about the "all rights reserved" may not be good in the readme... whats your view?09:07
Lutinhey there09:08
jussi01hi Lutin09:09
ajmitchhi Lutin 09:09
ajmitchjussi01: should be ok if there's a clear license09:09
Lutinhi ajmitch and jussi01 09:09
Lutindholbach: you around ?09:09
crimsunaround but likely quite busy.09:10
crimsunaccording to 4 minutes prior09:10
=== Lutin slaps himself for not reading before asking questions
jussi01ajmitch: excellent. if you get a chance maybe could you also check out my package? I think its just about ready,,,,09:11
Lutinthanks crimsun 09:11
=== ajmitch is also on limited time tonight
jussi01ajmitch: ok no probs09:11
ajmitchwhat is it?09:11
jussi01ajmitch: waon09:14
jussi01ajmitch: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=492909:16
=== ajmitch would suggest stripping unnecessary dh_* rules in debian/rules
ajmitchit looks very much like a dh_make template that hasn't been cleaned up09:17
ajmitcheg you use dh_installexamples, do you ship any examples?09:17
jussi01ok, i can do that09:18
imbrandoncrimsun: pong, sure ? they just want me to mirror them and make them available via rsync ?09:18
crimsunimbrandon: from what I gather, yes.09:18
imbrandoni guess i could do all the iso's for that matter09:18
crimsunmany thanks09:18
imbrandonanyone i should poke when i get it done ? you ?09:18
ajmitch+Maintainer: Jussi Schultink <jussi01@gmail.com> <-- should be updated for the maintainer spec, so that it's an ubuntu.com address like MOTU09:20
ajmitchjussi01: does it *only* run on i386?09:20
jussi01ajmitch: unfortuantely yes09:20
ajmitchthat's plain nasty :)09:20
jussi01ajmitch: explain to me? Im not allowed to have me as the maintainer?09:21
ajmitchyou get recorded as XSBC-Original-Maintainer09:21
TeslAnyone want to do me a favour? =)09:21
TeslJust uploaded the first release to sourceforge of a project I was working on (for my own benefit really)09:22
ajmitchMOTU or some other ubuntu.com address gets to be maintainer09:22
TeslAnyone want to test it quickly?09:22
ajmitchTesl: excellent :)09:22
TeslIt's a tool to help me study Kanji / Japanese Vocab (I live in Japan now)09:22
=== ajmitch has no time currently to test it, sorry
jussi01ajmitch: ah ok... Im unsure on how to go about changing the stuff that needs changing - what exactly do I need to change?09:23
Teslmeh, tis okay09:23
TeslI'll test it on this other machine I have :] 09:23
ajmitchjussi01: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField09:24
Tesl<--- Way Too Lazy09:24
ajmitchjussi01: it explains the rationale behind it09:24
=== jussi01 slaps not having an @ubuntu address.... :P
ajmitchjussi01: generally just renamed Maintainer to XSBC-Original-Maintainer, and set Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>                                                                                                                     09:25
ajmitchjussi01: sorry :)09:25
ajmitchotherwise it just won't build for us09:25
jussi01ajmitch: sure, its all good :D09:26
jussi01Ill just have to go and get me an @ubuntu address... :D09:26
jussi01so did I tell you Ive almost convinced my Uni to put a whole classroom on ubuntu? :D09:27
Teslheh, good man =)09:27
ajmitchhi \sh 09:28
\shI'm really lucky...wine does compile on my gutsy pbuilder but not on our buildds :(09:28
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jussi01ajmitch: what about in the changelog? me or motu?09:34
Hobbseeso you can be blamed when it all breaks09:35
=== ajmitch will let Hobbsee take over reviewing
=== Hobbsee doesnt ahve enough power
=== jussi01 steals Hobbsee's long pointy stick...
ajmitchHobbsee: battery power? :)09:37
jussi01and teases Hobbsee about it... ner ner ner ner...09:37
=== Hobbsee grabs it back. mine
Hobbseeajmitch: yes09:37
Hobbsee     Battery 1: discharging, 4%, 00:09:53 remaining09:37
ajmitchyou see, we'll all see the shy & harmless Hobbsee at UDS09:37
Hobbsee     Thermal 1: ok, 45.0 degrees C09:37
Hobbsee  AC Adapter 1: off-line09:37
Hobbseewill you now?09:38
ajmitchall talk :)09:38
Hobbseemost of the time :P09:38
ajmitchwe know that you wouldn't hurt anyone :)09:38
imbrandoncrimsun: rsyncing releases.ubuntu.com now, should only take about an hour or so , i'll poke ya when its done09:39
crimsunimbrandon: rockin'09:39
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jussi01yay imbrandon...09:40
Hobbseeajmitch: sure sure09:40
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ajmitchwhen are you leaving tomorrow?09:41
Hobbseeajmitch: 3.50, iirc09:42
ajmitchnot bad09:42
ajmitchso you still have a few hours to panic on irc09:42
ajmitchstarted packing yet?09:42
jussi01lucky feckers....09:43
crimsunI really need to label these usb disk drives more clearly09:43
ajmitchHobbsee: oh well, you can probably start about lunchtime :)09:44
Hobbseeajmitch: i will when i get home09:44
Hobbseeno - i'll need to be at the airport then09:44
crimsunonly took me 1,5 hours to find the one containing ubuntu-feisty.git09:44
ajmitchjust throw a few clothes in a bag, grab the laptop & passport :)09:44
imbrandonajmitch: sounds like my packaing09:44
ajmitchimbrandon: yeah, it's what I'll probably do on friday afternoon09:44
jussi01passport? why all she needs to do is point the long pointy stick at em and they will let her through...09:45
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ajmitchwb viviersf 09:45
viviersfgot new rams ajmitch :)09:47
imbrandon49.93 M/s , not too bad hehe09:49
ajmitchviviersf: heh09:50
crimsunbeats the pants off my 3.3 K/s09:50
ajmitchtime to work some magic with dd & nc09:52
imbrandonbackup/restore ?09:52
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imbrandonmoins anibal 09:52
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imbrandonlater Hobbsee 09:53
anibalimbrandon, hello09:53
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saispolast week i push some packages on REVU, but no news about it, why ?09:56
Lutinsaispo: did you ask for a review ?09:57
Lutinsaispo: what package ?09:57
ajmitchback later09:59
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Lutinsaispo: there's no package named claws-mail on REVU10:04
saispoi dput them10:04
Lutinsaispo: btw, claws-mail has been sitting in debian NEW for only 5 days. I might be wise to wait a bit and see it's uploaded to unstable so we can sync it10:05
Lutinunless you have changes against the debian package10:05
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saispoLutin: ok :/10:06
saispomost of security hole are fixed in 2.9.110:07
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=== arejay wonders when democracyplayer will be updated :/
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Lutindholbach: is there a particular point in adding an explicit B-D on libglib2.0-dev in clutter ? libgtk2.0-dev already depends on it iirc10:49
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dholbachLutin: is it a versioned b-d?10:49
Lutindholbach: yep, >= 2.810:49
dholbachthen it's specified like that in configure.ac10:49
dholbachif it's the only thing that's different from debian, then just sync it10:50
dholbachit's not worth to keep10:50
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arejayany ideas why  libxul-dev is broken?11:07
RAOFhey slomo11:07
slomohi RAOF 11:07
slomoarejay: we don't use xul anyway... use firefox (firefox-dev)11:07
RAOFslomo: So, a Tao update is that their build system is annoyingly broken.11:07
slomoRAOF: so talk to them to fix it :)11:08
RAOFI am.11:08
arejayslomo: thanks :) trying todo a svn build of democracy 11:08
RAOFarejay: It probably won't work, unless you've applied the patches from the previous Ubuntu package.11:09
arejayRAOF: ah. indeed it will not work. where might i find the patches? launchpad?11:10
RAOFslomo: I'm currently trying to help them fix their build-system-generator to output sane autotools11:10
RAOFarejay: apt-get source democracyplayer?  debian/patches?11:11
RAOFarejay: But there probably is somewhere you can just get the patches, though.11:11
RAOFslomo: Basically, I just want to let you know that I *am* still touching Tao, but not to expect anything soon :)11:11
slomoRAOF: ok, thanks :)11:12
arejayRAOF: *shrug* no source package exist..11:12
RAOFarejay: Do you have any deb-src lines for universe?11:12
RAOFBecause that source package *definitely* exists.11:12
arejayRAOF: just added them -- forgot to check there.11:12
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=== siretart hugs slomo
slomohi siretart :)11:16
=== slomo hugs siretart
imbrandonsudo apt-get install php-myadmin11:17
imbrandonmoins siretart 11:17
imbrandonand slomo 11:17
slomohi imbrandon 11:18
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=== arejay is thinking democracy dosnt like python 2.5 even after applying patches
arejaymaybe something with boost11:25
RAOFActually, I think it's more likely to be a gtkembedmoz issue11:27
RAOFBut I got running previously.11:28
arejaydoing some more hacking, a grep on python2.4 returned some hits even after applying the 2.5 python patch11:29
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RAOFOh, the debian package buildsystem will replace some of the python2.4 shebangs with python2.5 (IIRC)11:30
siretarthuhu imbrandon 11:31
arejay*crosss fingrs* its building now.11:32
arejayRAOF: I see what you mean - its not doing any rendering..11:33
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RAOFYou mean, there's nothing in the windows?  Or what?11:34
arejayRAOF: ya nothing in the window11:36
RAOFOh, I've not seen that.11:36
RAOFMine would always just segfault :)11:37
=== arejay is now experinceing that
arejayTIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: <function initRenderers at 0x879df7c> took too long: 1.31311:37
arejayDTV: Warning: Can't process cookie expiration: Wed, 02-May-07 09:41:22 GMT11:37
arejayTIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: <function fileDuration at 0x87a202c> took too long: 1.21011:37
arejaySegmentation fault (core dumped)11:37
RAOFThat's my package :)11:39
RAOFDo you have the LD_LIBRARY_PATH wrapper around it?11:40
arejayRAOF: did you send any bug reports upstream? 11:40
RAOFarejay: They're already there.  That's where I got the patches from11:40
arejayTIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: <function initRenderers at 0x879df7c> took too long: 1.31311:43
arejayDTV: Warning: Can't process cookie expiration: Wed, 02-May-07 09:41:22 GMT11:43
arejayTIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: <function fileDuration at 0x87a202c> took too long: 1.21011:43
arejaySegmentation fault (core dumped)11:43
arejayoops - sorry11:43
RAOFarejay: Try with "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/firefox ./democracyplayer"11:47
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arejayRAOF: it worked!11:49
=== arejay tests stablity
arejayuh wait a min..11:50
arejayit launched 0.9.2211:50
arejayforgot that was still installed...11:50
RAOFThat seems... odd.11:50
RAOFAh, you missed the "./" :)11:50
arejayRAOF: nope - for some reason it launches the one in /usr/bin11:51
RAOFThat's really odd.  Hm.  11:52
arejayI'm uninstalling it now.. 11:52
arejayok it runs with "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/firefox ./run.sh11:54
arejaysweet sound works now in 0.9.5 :)11:55
RAOFI won't be updating the Universe package until python-support 0.6 is merged from sid, but it's good to know that the patches still apply :)11:55
RAOFSound has *always* worked for me.11:55
arejayRAOF: did'nt for me in the 0.9.22 package :)11:56
arejayvideo was always weird like it floated above content 11:56
arejay(beryl user here)11:56
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arejayRAOF: anywho thank's for the help :) I'm off to watch some diggnation11:58
Nafalloimbrandon: jabber @ ubuntuwire down or something?12:01
imbrandonNafallo: shouldent be, lemme check12:02
imbrandon( i'm am working on the server though so i might have oopsd12:02
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NafalloI'll try to debug my side :-)12:02
imbrandonNafallo: yea it was my bad, i did oops12:03
imbrandonits starting the daemon now, give it a sec12:03
Nafallooki, thanks12:03
imbrandonsoory bout that, been working on all the servers most of the night heh12:03
imbrandontrying to upgrade some hardware and add some redundancy12:04
imbrandonfor most services12:04
Hobbseeimbrandon, come to UDS.12:04
imbrandonHobbsee: wish i could gurl12:04
Hobbseeimbrandon: wish harder, and come.12:04
imbrandonbut not this time, i'll have to get the wrong end of your stick in Boston :)12:04
Hobbseei wont be there12:04
Hobbseei expect12:04
imbrandonsure you will :) shush12:05
Nafalloimbrandon: that's better. thanks :-)12:05
imbrandonNafallo: np, sorry bout that12:06
imbrandonNafallo: btw i've added the aim and msn transports to ubuntuwire.com jabber also12:06
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imbrandonnot quite sure how you would use them as a normal use yet 100%12:06
imbrandonbut i /think/ you can add like someone\n40msn.com@msn.ubuntuwire.com to you buddy list and have it work12:07
imbrandonbut thats not tested yet12:07
Nafalloimbrandon: kewl, but I already use MSN from a Swedish universe through my other jabberaccount :-)12:08
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tepsipakkiNafallo: Swedish universe sounds.. frightening ;)12:11
Nafallotepsipakki: hehe :-)=12:12
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Lutinhi ajmitch 12:16
StevenKajmitch: All packed?12:16
ajmitchyou assume I've started12:16
Hobbseehi ajmitch 12:16
StevenKShould I ask if the clothes you're taking are in the washing machine, or is that a bad question? :-)12:16
ajmitchhi Hobbsee 12:16
ajmitchwould "I just put them in there 3 minutes ago" be an adequate answer? :)12:17
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ajmitchI don't leave until friday night, however12:17
StevenKDo you end up going via Sydney?12:18
StevenKI'm just wondering.12:18
ajmitchair NZ flies to london via asia or the US12:18
StevenKThe US seems to be a little out of the way for London. :-)12:19
StevenKThen again, depends which way they fly.12:19
ajmitchwell NZ & london are almost opposite on the globe12:20
=== ajmitch is going via hong kong though
ajmitchnot bad, copying the stuff off the laptop, ~93Mbps12:20
ajmitchfairly good for a 100Mbps network12:20
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ajmitchdd | nc ftw12:21
StevenKajmitch: You're just dd'ing the whole partition?12:21
ajmitchgrab a snapshot12:22
StevenKThat's one way to back up data, I suppose.12:22
ajmitchit's an LVM pv anyway, so I can just activate it on here12:22
StevenKLVM on your laptop? Masochistic, much?12:23
ajmitchthat's not masochistic12:23
ajmitchit runs fine12:23
ajmitchbesides, I was using the spare LVM space for xen & other things12:24
ajmitchnice, 100GB laptop drive compressed down to 49GB12:28
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zulstop downloading porn and you wouldnt have that problem12:43
TheMusoIs anybody able to explain why a package builds fine in my pbuilder, get FTBFS on the same arch on the build servers?12:44
StevenKWhat's the failure on the buildds?12:44
TheMusoStevenK: Can't find a package with a particular version. pkg-config >= 0.8 is needed, and 0.21 is installed, yet it says can't find it. Yet in pbuilder, it finds it with no problems.12:45
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TheMusowow mirror.imbrandon.com seems broken or something.12:48
TheMusotried running an update and it failed to fetch the release gpg files and other bits I think.12:48
TheMusoconnection refused...12:49
StevenKSeems like imbrandon is going more for denial of service as opposed to redunant services.12:49
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davromaniakslomo, are you here ??12:58
slomodavromaniak: yes12:58
davromaniakI know you have some knowledge in MONO language, so could you review my youtranslate package please ??12:59
davromaniakhere is the link : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=487212:59
davromaniakmr_pouit, reviewed it, but it's better if somebody confident with mono reviews it01:00
slomodavromaniak: why exactly did you regenerate the tarball? and are you sure you don't need libgtk2.0-cil in build depends?01:02
TheMusohmm. Ok mirror.imbrandon.com is up again.01:02
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davromaniakslomo, let me remember01:02
slomodavromaniak: and use dh_clideps -d to have duplicates removed01:03
dharriganHello everyone. Anyone perhaps help me sort out the BADSIG problem I'm having when I do an update? I've created and signed a package, uploaded it, added to the root's keychain but update gives me a BADSIG.01:03
davromaniakI regenerate the tarball in order to add COPYING.lib, some files in the program have a different licence01:03
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slomodavromaniak: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/youtranslate-0704221615/youtranslate-1.1.9/yTTrayLib.cs is MIT X11 licensed normally... anyway, is there any file that is GPL or everything LGPL?01:04
davromaniakfor libgtk2.0-cil, I'm sure, I builded it without any error01:05
slomowith pbu8ilder?01:05
dharriganwhen I run gpg --verify on the dsc it says a good sig01:05
slomodavromaniak: sounds impossible :)01:05
davromaniakah ?01:06
davromaniakso, it's better if I add it01:06
slomoone moment01:06
slomoyou can remove the configure stuff from debian/rules, it does nothing anyway :)01:06
dharriganoh, but running gpg --verify Release.gpg Release gives me a badsig01:07
slomodavromaniak: oh no... hm, you build depend on gtk-sharp... never ever do that, just depend on libgtk2.0-cil or whatever package is needed for your package... apart from that, gtk-sharp is the old 1.0 version and will be removed soonish, better get it ported to gtk#201:08
slomodavromaniak: you need libglade2.0-cil and libgtk2.0-cil instead of gtk-sharp01:08
slomodavromaniak: and then replace in PKG_REFERENCES in  Makefile.youtranslate everything with gtk-sharp-2.0 and glade-sharp-2.001:09
slomothen it should be fine01:09
davromaniakwhere ?? PKG_REFERENCES ??01:09
davromaniakin Makefile.youtranslate ?,01:10
slomohm, then you need to add a dllmap for youtranslate.exe01:10
slomogdk-x11-2.0 needs to be mapped to libgdk-x11-2.0.so.001:10
davromaniakhow I do this ?01:10
slomosee http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/ch-mono.html#s4.201:11
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HobbseeTheMuso: ?01:12
slomodavromaniak: in debian/copyright copy the upstream copyright line in there... i.e. "Copyright (C) 2006 Salvatore Scarciglia <laas.mono@gmail.com>"01:13
davromaniakcopy where ?01:13
slomobehind "Copyright: " :)01:13
slomoit's partially there already01:13
TheMusoHobbsee: Heya!01:14
davromaniaksorry, my brain is not fully operational today, ;)01:14
slomodavromaniak: everything else is good... good work :)01:14
Hobbseehi TheMuso!01:14
TheMusoHobbsee: I believe you fly out tomorrow. Is that correct?01:14
davromaniakok, for the .config file, what is his name ??01:14
slomodavromaniak: youtranslate.exe.config01:15
slomoin the same directory as youtranslate.exe01:15
HobbseeTheMuso: yep!01:15
slomodavromaniak: oh... another thing... make the package "Architecture: all" in debian/control01:15
slomodavromaniak: it's architecture independent01:15
davromaniakanother thing, in the rules file, what do I need to erase ??01:16
davromaniakthe configure thing01:17
davromaniakif I erase that : configure: configure-stamp01:17
davromaniak# Add here commands to configure the package.01:17
davromaniaktouch configure-stamp01:17
davromaniakthis will work ?01:17
davromaniakor debhelper will be grumpy ?01:17
slomodavromaniak: i have to leave now, try it or let's talk about it later today ;)01:17
davromaniakok, thanks for the help01:17
TheMusoHobbsee: SO when does the summit kick off?01:19
HobbseeTheMuso: sunday, i think01:20
TheMusoMust be a long trip if you are leaving tomorrow.01:20
HobbseeTheMuso: ubucon first01:21
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dharriganEveryone. Fixed my badsig problem.01:24
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StevenKdharrigan: What was it?01:25
=== TheMuso has just thrown a really tough one to the devs. Fun watching this sorta stuff unfold sometimes.
dharrigan2 things. One, the sig file was out-of-date from the Release file. I wasn't generating it correctly (in sequence).01:25
dharrigansecond, I wasn't generating a Sources file (I had the compressed versions). When I told apt-ftparchive to also generate a Soruces, thigns worked.01:26
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=== dharrigan thinks it's neat that I can release signed packages :)
TheMusonot again...01:31
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dharrigandholbach: ping?01:39
arejayanyone know what provides nsIServiceManagerUtils.h ?01:40
arejayI *think* xpcom..01:40
dholbachdharrigan: pong01:41
Hobbseearejay: tried packages.ubuntu.com for it yet?01:42
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arejayHobbsee: ya - no avail.01:45
TheMusoarejay: Try apt-file.01:45
arejayHobbsee: perhaps python-xpcom01:45
arejayTheMuso: I get no results.. apt-file search  nsIServiceManagerUtils.h (assuming i'am using it correctly)01:47
Hobbseeit's probably not in ubuntu then..01:48
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StevenKOr Debian.01:48
StevenKpackages.debian.org can't find it either.01:48
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jellyfish2002anyone seen bddebian?01:53
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Hobbseejellyfish2002: not today.  he should come on in the next while, though01:53
Hobbseehi pirast 01:53
jellyfish2002okie thx01:54
pirasthobbsee, hi01:54
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\shhgmmm does anyone know what this error means?01:56
\shIn file included from external.cpp:46:01:56
\sh/usr/include/avifile-0.7/creators.h:4:2: warning: #warning Use #include "avm_creators.h" instead01:56
\sh../src/drip.h:198: error: previous declaration of 'drip_config Config' with 'C++' linkage01:56
\shexternal.cpp:52: error: conflicts with new declaration with 'C' linkage01:56
pirasthobbsee, lol ^^01:57
StevenK\sh: Yes.01:59
StevenK\sh: 1. external.cpp should reference "avm_creators.h" instead.02:00
\shStevenK, it just came to me, I think, when I read the paste now ;)02:00
StevenK\sh: Okay. :-)02:00
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StevenK\sh: I was planning on saying, "Oooooh, you want me to tell you..." :-)02:00
\shStevenK, created the patch right now, but thanks :)02:00
StevenK\sh: Pastebin it? I'm curious.02:01
\shStevenK, sometimes I can't see the tree because of the forrest around ;)02:01
\shStevenK, s/#include "creators.h"/#include "avm_creators.h"/02:01
\shin encoder/external.cpp 02:01
\shtrying to build it now02:01
StevenK\sh: Ahhh, there is more than one error. :-)02:02
\shStevenK, surely I'm just cratching 02:03
StevenK\sh: Compare src/drip.h, line 198 or so with external.cpp, around line 52. I think you'll find conflicting definitions.02:03
\shI think I'm doing too many things at the same time ;)02:07
\shmassupdating servers...02:07
\shand merging packages02:07
shawarmaTheMuso: I was just looking at that ardour build. Why did you add an epoch?02:08
TheMusoshawarma: Debian did that.02:08
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TheMusoWhen they were creating several packages during beta/rc, for demudi, they screwed up the versioning.02:08
shawarmaTheMuso: Oh.02:08
shawarmaI just looked at the source overview page on lp and it wasn't making a lot of sense.02:09
TheMusoI can understand.02:09
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DarkSun88Hi all02:09
TheMusoWhen I uploaded, I actually made sure to add all changes since the rpevious version in the .changes file.02:09
TheMusofor that very reason, explanation of why it happened. :)02:10
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shawarmaTheMuso: You didn't figure it out, did you? The FTBFS?02:22
TheMusoshawarma: No.02:22
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\shStevenK, how would you fix the problem with drip.h/external.cpp? commenting in drip.h's line?02:23
StevenK\sh: I'd need to see the code.02:23
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\shStevenK, let me try something ;:)02:24
StevenK\sh: Add learn C++ to your todo list. :-)02:24
TheMusoshawarma: The problem of course, is that the build servers use a different chroot system to pbuilder.02:24
TheMusoSo unless I had a similar setup to test with, I can't work it out, as it works in pbuilder.02:25
\shStevenK, well, the problem is more the change in our toolchain ;)02:25
StevenKTheMuso: It's sbuild, which you can set up if you're sufficently masochistic.02:25
TheMusoStevenK: hmmm ok.02:25
shawarmaTheMuso: True.02:25
StevenKTheMuso: For sufficently, read "very very"02:25
TheMusoStevenK: How difficult is that to set up?02:25
StevenKI suspect that answers your question. :-)02:27
TheMusoooooouch. Sparc has a looooooong build list.02:28
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StevenKOne of them is down.02:29
TheMusoStevenK: Ah.02:29
StevenKWas, I should say.02:29
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xxxxx1hi all.02:44
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Adri2000is there a date for the next motu meeting?03:11
imbrandonStevenK: ping03:14
imbrandon" tar -zxvf *.tar " hates me03:15
imbrandonthinks i want to untar to another tar03:15
imbrandonhelp pwease03:15
StevenKfor i in *.tar ; do tar zxvf $i ; done03:15
imbrandonyou rock03:16
StevenKNo, I just happen to know shell scripting. :-P03:16
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\shStevenK, fixed drip03:24
StevenK\sh: Nice!03:24
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jellyfish2002so quiet?03:51
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elkbuntugrrr... specs/blueprints proposed to uds still havent been triaged :-/03:58
geserAdri2000: the next motu meeting will be sometime after UDS03:59
Adri2000geser: ok, it was because I was updating wiki.u.c/MOTU, I just wrote "No date yet"04:01
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Adri2000heya bddebian04:06
bddebianHeya gang04:06
bddebianHi Adri200004:06
Adri2000bddebian: http://adrishost.homeip.net/DaD/merges/librep/librep_0.17+svn20070119-2ubuntu1.patch - this patch fixes FTBFS right?04:08
bddebianIs that the stack direction one?04:08
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bddebianYeah on PPC and ia64 but I was hoping someone with PPC or ia64 would make sure it's still necessary first04:09
Adri2000bddebian: we have a ppc build machine, you know? ;)04:09
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bddebianAdri2000: I know but I have never used/asked about any of them.  I need to04:11
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Adri2000bddebian: if you have an ssh key in LP, it should work04:11
geserAdri2000: if you mean intrepid.ubuntuwire.com it has hardware problems04:11
ScottK-laptopGood morning everyone.04:11
Adri2000geser: arg :(04:11
Adri2000hi ScottK-laptop04:12
ScottK-laptopIs there a way to get a rebuild on a package that FTBFS and all that appears to be needed is anther build attempt for Feisty?04:12
bddebianHeya ScottK-laptop04:13
ScottK-laptopThe build in question is https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/264902 and it looks to me like a build system error, not the package.  The same package built for Gutsy.04:13
bddebianScottK-laptop: Ask for a throwback or add a build1 version04:13
ScottK-laptopheya bddebian.04:13
ScottK-laptopWhat's the process for a throwback?  Bug pitti on IRC?04:14
geserask an build admin (Mithrandir) for a give-back04:15
ScottK-laptopgeser: Thanks.04:15
ScottK-laptopgeser: Would you mind taking a look at that build log and see if you agree that a give-back should be all that's required?04:15
bddebianthrowback.. Hehe yeah give-back.. Sheesh04:15
bddebianHeya geser04:16
ScottK-laptopDuring dependency checking it says: libtest-harness-perl: already installed (=*=PROVIDED=*= >= 2.62 is satisfied)04:16
persiaScottK: Its Wednesday: bug seb128 (See mail to ubuntu-devel-announce on 20th Feb).04:16
ScottK-laptoppersia: Thanks.04:16
Adri2000persia: archive admin != buildd admin04:17
Adri2000I don't think seb128 is a buildd admin04:17
persiaAdri2000: Ah, thanks.  ScottK: Ignore my previous.04:17
slomosiretart: ping?04:17
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ScottK-laptopBut then the reason for the FTBFS is: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libtest-harness-perl (>= 2.62)04:17
ScottK-laptopSeems very odd to me.04:18
ScottK-laptoppersia: Still looking for an SRU bug?04:18
geserperl-modules provides libtest-harness-perl04:18
persiaScottK: Sure.  You have one?04:18
geserthat's why is it reported as provided04:18
ScottK-laptopgeser: Then why the unment build depends?04:19
geserit thinks it's installed04:19
geserbut they the version check fails04:19
geserprovides are unversioned04:19
ScottK-laptopMaybe the version was to low when it was attempted.  I look in LP and the version is high enough now.04:20
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ScottK-laptopSounds like a good rationale for a give-back then?04:20
geserbuildd installs all needed depends and is happy with perl-modules providing libtest-harness-perl04:21
ScottK-laptoppersia: There was a CVE bug reported yesterday on one of the web log tools yesterday.  I mentioned it here.  You might look in the IRC log or I can find it for you after I get back to my desk.04:21
geserand calls then dpkg-buildpackage which checks the build-deps again and is unhappy about the missing libtest-harness-perl04:21
geseras it is versioned perl-modules can't satisfy it04:21
geserthat's how I understand it04:22
geseryou should talk to a build admin about it04:22
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StevenKOr change the Build-Depends04:22
gesera simple give-back won't do it04:22
StevenKperl-modules | libtest-harness-perl ()04:23
ScottK-laptopgeser: The same package built for gutsy?04:23
ScottK-laptopStevenK: It's not a problem in gutsy, just FTBFS in Feisty.  04:23
geserStevenK: how? I assume the version is important else it wouldn't be versioned04:23
ScottK-laptopThe thing is the version in Feisty IS sufficient: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtest-harness-perl04:24
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geserScottK-laptop: it doesn't build in gutsy either04:26
ScottK-laptopSure enough.04:27
ScottK-laptopSame issue.04:28
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ScottK-laptoplibtest-harness-perl is new as a separate source package.04:29
geserHi bddebian (overlooked you highlight)04:29
sharmsmy blogging power knows no bounds04:29
ScottK-laptopSo I think what StevenK said makes perfect sense now.04:29
sharmsAMD wants to talk to me about their drivers for ATI cards04:30
bddebiangeser: It's ok.. *sniff sniff* :'-(04:30
geserlibtest-harness-perl is a seperate package and provided by perl-modules04:30
geserbddebian: it wouldn't happen again04:30
ScottK-laptopOK, then since 2.64 > 2.62, why the unmet depends?04:30
bddebiangeser: :-)04:31
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geserbecause libtest-harness-perl isn't installed at all04:31
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geserthe buildd believes perl-modules is enough but dpkg-buildpackage has an other option04:31
ScottK-laptopI see.04:31
ScottK-laptopIs that a buildd problem or a packaging problem then?04:32
geserthe question is if it really needs libtest-harness-perl 2.64 or if it is also happy with libtest-harness-perl from perl-modules04:32
imbrandon09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C004:33
imbrandon( just for the irc logs ) 04:33
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ScottK-laptopOK.  I would have thought the question is why does buildd think libtest-harness-perl is there and dpkg-buildpackage has another opinion.04:33
geserI'd say it's a buildd bug as provides can't be versioned (if nothing has changed any my analysis is correct)04:33
Fujitsuimbrandon: If Mithrandir does it, it must be OK.04:33
ScottK-laptopgeser: Then I guess the answer is still go talk to Mithrandir about it.04:34
ScottK-laptopgeser: Thanks for your help.  I'll go do that.04:34
geserhe should know more about it than me04:34
sharmsCan anyone tell me what problems are bugging you with the current fglrx driver?04:35
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imbrandonFujitsu: :)04:42
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imbrandonsharms: thats its binary ?04:42
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sharmsimbrandon: looking for more technical problems04:43
imbrandonFujitsu: i got a blog post for the recordbooks comming ... :)04:43
sharmsuh oh, should I get my flame suit on?04:44
siretartslomo: pong04:46
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slomosiretart: any idea what should be done about seahorse? seahorse handles it gracely (after removing the conflict) now but gpg-agent fails at least for me... and if both are installed and one of them is in Xsession.d the user has absolutely no choice which one to use, the first from Xsession.d will always be used04:47
s-ndh-chey ppl04:47
s-ndh-cid like to help ya fixing mono bugs in ubuntu, who is the one i should be talking to?04:47
bddebians-ndh-c: Just get fixing :-)04:48
slomos-ndh-c: hi... which bugs in specific? but in general just start to do it :) you could also help getting packages merged with debian though if you want ;)04:48
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s-ndh-cxsp2 for example its just a litle packaging bug, the preinst script checks for the wrong initscript so it04:50
s-ndh-c-so it04:50
s-ndh-cbut i will have a look at the mono related bugs and see what i can do04:50
slomos-ndh-c: cool :) for xsp, did you check whether it's already fixed in debian?04:50
s-ndh-cslomo: no i didnt04:51
s-ndh-cwill do that later when iam at home, i just came here to ask where i could lend you a helping hand04:51
siretartslomo: hm. hoestly, I don't think that either of the two should be started via Xsession.d. Or both Xsession.d scripts check some configuration in users home if the user wants that agent started at all04:51
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siretartslomo: it must be somehome user dependent, else it won't work in multi user environments where one user wants seahorse and the other one gpg-agent04:52
siretartslomo: those environments are not uncommon. think of LTSP or sunray environments04:52
algHi, guys. I have a question regarding the packaging of a Java application for upload. Can I get some assistance here?04:52
slomosiretart: yep... sure. but i can't think of anything that doesn't require manual configuration by the user (well, except for special cases, i.e. gnome-session starting it automatically if available)04:53
siretartslomo: maybe this checking can be restricted to the case that both agents are actually installed. but that's even more surprising that installing a package breaks another one04:54
siretartslomo: I do think that you need to take the user configuration into account04:54
siretartI mean: both seahorse and gpg-agent04:54
alghey, gurus! :) any help?04:54
algThe problem is that the application runs only on Sun JRE (not GCJ). How do I correctly package it in this case? I end up with no dependencies, as this JRE is not in the repository as far as I know. So, do I have to include some note in the description?04:56
s-ndh-ci think in feisty its included sun-java5-jre and sund-java6-jre04:58
s-ndh-catleast packages.ubuntu.com lists those04:58
algoh really. let me check04:58
xxxxx1sun-java6... too04:58
s-ndh-cbut in older releasese it isnt04:58
algbecause I was building a package on the previous version of Ubuntu04:58
s-ndh-cor am i wrong?04:59
algI guess, even on Breezy04:59
xxxxx1alg: edgy have java6 too04:59
s-ndh-cyeah its in edgy-backports05:00
algit's funny. I was always building sun-java myself from bin with java-package :)05:00
algnow I can see the official!05:00
s-ndh-calg: hehe same here05:00
algxxxxx1, s-ndh-c: very nice. Thanks guys for quick and right pointers!05:01
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persiaAnyone have a bit of time to help me with a library transition?05:03
dholbachpersia: what kind of transition?05:04
stgrabergpocentek: Just reuploaded miniracer on REVU, the FTBFS was caused by GCC, the package build just fine with the newest. The .desktop isn't in the data package (from what I've checked) and I've changed the Dependency/Recommends.05:04
bddebianMany busy place lately :-)05:05
stgraberbtw, good afternoon everyone05:05
bddebianHello stgraber05:06
persiadholbach: The most recent version of libflac in gutsy has a binary libflac++5 instead of libflac++5c2.  There are 6 packages not scheduled for merging that depend on libflac++5c2.  5 of them are simple rebuilds (-build1), and one needs a patch due to another build-dep change.  Where I need help is with a template for the -build1 comment, and some uploads (once I have made all the debdiffs).05:06
stgraberSome of you already in Spain ?05:06
dholbachpersia: just write something like "rebuild to depend on libflac++5 instead of libflac++5c2"05:07
dholbachthat's good enough05:07
dholbachif you need to get uploads done, just ping me05:08
persiadholbach: Thanks.  I'll put all the debdiffs in a bug.  May I pijng you when I'm done for uploads?05:08
persiadholbach: I'm a slow typist :).  Thanks.05:08
bddebianpersia: You are an animal man :)05:08
persiabddebian: I fail entirely to follow your footsteps, but I'm learning to climb over the sides :)05:09
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bddebianpersia: pfft, I'm nobody :-)05:10
persiabddebian: Bah.  You uploaded all my patches for Dapper.05:10
bddebianWell I didn't say I wasn't a good schlub :-)05:12
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ScottK-laptopThanks for all the help.  See you all later.05:40
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shawarmaLutin, Adri2000: Something is wrong with http://adrishost.homeip.net/DaD/merges/jokosher/REPORT (see the base version)05:41
persiaStevenK: Thanks for the upload.05:41
Adri2000shawarma: yep, it's because there is not debian version in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/j/jokosher/jokosher_0.2-0ubuntu5/changelog, so this package is not based on any debian version05:42
Adri2000there is no*05:42
bddebianpersia: See, you don't even need me for uploads anymore :'-(   ;-P05:44
persiabddebian: I've a bunch pending.  Do you want to upload something?05:44
bddebianActually I'm busy at work atm :-(  But I probably can later05:45
shawarmaAdri2000: Makes sense. Still, it breaks grab-merge.sh (set -e).05:45
persiabddebian: No worries.  I'm not in a rush about anything (all the freezes are ages away).05:46
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shawarmaslomo: I see you're the debian maintainer for last-exit now. I take it can just be synced?05:55
slomoshawarma: yes05:56
shawarmaslomo: Cool. I'll file the request.05:56
slomoshawarma: same for tomboy iirc, seahorse needs a single-line change05:57
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jussi01Hello Motu's!!06:13
bddebianHeya jussi0106:14
jussi01heya bddebian06:14
jussi01bddebian: any chance you could reveiw my package if you have a moment?? I really want to get it uploaded as its my first... :D06:15
jussi01bddebian: link is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=492906:15
bddebianjussi01: Not right now but probably in a little bit, sure06:16
jussi01bddebian: thanks very much06:16
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imbrandonlets see, m4a , mp3 , vorbis , wav , what am i missing06:25
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bddebianwmv, aac, :)06:25
imbrandonnah only audio, and i have aac 06:26
bddebianOh, audio06:26
imbrandonflac maybe06:26
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persiaimbrandon: au? flac?06:26
bddebianra? :-)06:26
imbrandonhttp://www.imbrandon.com/misc/magic-number/   <--- my time waster for today06:26
yetitell me if this is the wrong place to ask, but the #ubuntu people didn't know anything about it, so i'd like to try it here: is it possible to run feisty without evms/lvm/device-mapper?06:28
imbrandonyeti: yes06:28
yetiimbrandon: great, is there anything specific i have to keep in mind? or just remove the services from runlevel?06:29
imbrandonas long as you dont have any lvm devices you should be ok06:29
yetiyou see, on edgy, my only HDD was /dev/hda, i don't really understand where feisty "maps" it to /dev/sda or /dev/mapper/sda. is that on kernel level already06:30
imbrandonnever seen that06:30
arejaypart of the new kernel right?06:30
arejaydidn't they change some ide stuff/06:30
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nixternalwhen is Ubuntu getting ext3cow?06:31
yetidoes ubuntu keep a broken-out dir with their kernel patches somewhere?06:31
imbrandonnixternal: when you package it06:31
imbrandonyeti: patches.ubuntu.com06:31
s-ndh-cslomo: i looked at the debian package and it checks for the wrong initscript too, and there is no bug filed for that atleast i didnt see one06:34
s-ndh-cfor xsp2 that is06:35
zul_imbrandon: you have too much times on your hands06:35
imbrandonzul_: hehe06:35
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yetihm, no severe kernel code changes in that kernel-package patch on patches.ubuntu.com. what is that one against? stock debian kernel? vanilla?06:36
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geserkernel-package was used to build kernels06:38
geserif you look for the source code of the kernel itself it's in a git(?) repository06:39
jdongUBuntu kernel is in git06:39
yetigeser: i'm mainly interested in the patches themselves, not the final patched source06:39
jdonguse git to compare the Ubuntu branch with the linus branch06:40
jdongfrom that you can build a list of changesets that comprise your split-out patches06:40
jdongwhich... will be unwieldly large :D06:40
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imbrandonhrm how can i split a filename cmd line06:46
nixternalimbrandon: that is kernel stuff, /me no messy messy ;)06:46
imbrandoncut seems to want a file06:46
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nixternalwhat is the filename to split?06:47
imbrandonblah.txt ( i want blah )06:47
nixternaldo you want to do it with a small script or in one simple pass?06:49
imbrandonone pass if possible06:49
persiaimbrandon: basename06:49
imbrandonhrm seems broken06:50
nixternalbasename blah.txt .txt06:50
imbrandonbrandon@horatio:~$ basename man1.wav06:50
persiaimbrandon: echo `basename blah.txt .txt`06:51
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jdongimbrandon: you'd probably want to do "`basename "blah.txt" .txt`"06:55
jdongthat at least saves you from some wacky characters06:55
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imbrandonjdong: :)06:57
imbrandonfor i in *.ogg ; do ogg123 $i -d au -f `basename "$i" ".ogg"`.au ; done     06:57
imbrandonshhhh :)06:57
imbrandonmischeif i tell you http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/magic-number/06:58
persiaimbrandon: Wouldn't you want to start with .wav to make .au?  .au is low quality, but not lossy (I think).06:59
jdongimbrandon: http://web.mit.edu/jdong/www/misc/whatdoesthisdo.jpg06:59
imbrandonpersia: it dosent really matter its all just text-to-speach anyhow06:59
imbrandonmore of a joke really06:59
imbrandonjdong: ncie07:00
imbrandonerr nice07:00
s-ndh-cslomo: and there is another problem both mono-xsp and mono-xsp2 initscript seem to use >& /dev/null do redirect output and this seems bash specific ie. it gives an error if the shell is dash07:00
jdonghehe, pitti isn't happy about the size of that debdiff07:00
jdongas unbelievable as it is, there are crash reports and data loss reports around for each of the patches I separated out......07:01
imbrandonjdong: i'm guessing that barcode us UPC-9 or w/e07:01
jdongimbrandon: yep :D07:01
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s-ndh-cslomo: maybe changing the shebang to bash would be an option as bash seems to be preinstalled anyways07:02
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jdongyay bashism07:03
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jdongI love a game or two but the amount of space they take up is obscene07:04
imbrandon7 formats 07:06
imbrandonanymore ?07:06
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jdonglol look through an unlocked ffmpeg or mplayer for random formats it can encode to? :D07:06
jdongyou'r missing wma....07:07
jdongcan ffmpeg do wma?07:07
imbrandoncan it do ra ?07:07
jussi01bddebian: it seems you reveiwed the wrong upload...:( the manpages are fixed in the latest upload (may 2nd)07:07
jdong.me heads onto ffmpeg07:07
jdongimbrandon: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC2507:08
jdongimbrandon: looks like you can still do a few more via a medibuntu'ed ffmpeg :D07:08
bddebianjussi01: Grr, OK07:09
jussi01bddebian: so link is: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=499107:09
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persiaGrumble, hydrogen never got built during the feisty cycle, and was FTBFS on release.07:15
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ScottKLutin, Adri2000: klamav does not show up on DaD.  I assume this is because we07:18
crimsunpersia: SRU it.07:18
ScottKwe've never gotten it from Debian.  I was wondering if it could be added as in theory we could get it from them.07:18
ScottKJust someone would have to do a merge....07:19
persiacrimsun: Once I get a working build, I'll try.07:20
Adri2000ScottK: it doesn't show up on DaD because debian version < ubuntu version07:21
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ScottKAdri2000: Yep.  That's it.  Sorry for the noise.07:22
shawarmaAdri2000: Same is true for tomboy. It's not there, but their version is newer, I think.07:22
persiadholbach: Bug #11179707:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111797 in rezound "libflac++5c2 to libflac++5 transition" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11179707:22
shawarmaAdri2000: They got 0.6.3-1, we got  0.6.3-0ubuntu1.07:22
Adri2000shawarma: tomboy is main07:23
shawarmaAdri2000: Ah, it's only universe?07:23
shawarmaAdri2000: I've been checking that for every package. :-)07:23
shawarmaAdri2000: Sorry for the noise then.07:24
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Adri2000shawarma: yes, it's written on the top of the page ;) but the current code should support main if we want it07:24
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Lutinjdong: < jdong> imbrandon: looks like you can still do a few more via a medibuntu'ed ffmpeg :D  <== what for ?07:38
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jdongLutin: imbrandon is being a hippie rebel by encoding a speech readout of the AACS key to as many codecs as he can :)07:38
Lutinjdong: :)07:39
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jdongimbrandon: you need to put the key in the directory name and filename of everything... so when you get your takedown notice and post it up, they have to issue a takedown notice FOR the takedown notice :D07:40
persiajdong: That's actualy a good idea, as if one doesn't comply, the data becomes part of the public record in the ensuing court action.  Needs a volunteer though.07:42
ScottKpersia: The bug I mentioned earlier is https://launchpad.net/bugs/111620 - need to see if any of those CVEs apply to Feisty.07:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111620 in wordpress "Remote Exploits: multiple vulnerabilities" [Undecided,Confirmed]  07:42
persiaScottK: Thanks.  I've another on my plate now, but I'll take a look at that when I have a chance.07:43
ScottKOK.  I've got another when you want it too.07:43
jdongpersia: lol I'm sure some rebel somewhere already did that07:43
jdongespecially since a LOT of blog systems put the title of the page in the URL07:44
persiaScottK: Well, I do mean to get back to wx2.4 at some point :)07:44
ScottKYou wanted SUR practice ;-)07:44
ScottKerr SRU07:44
jdongIn Soviet Russia, SRU practice YOU07:44
persiaScottK: Yep.  I've two now, which should cement the process in my head.07:44
jdonghah I should stop aliasing corny jokes07:44
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dholbachpersia: getting sources07:45
persiadholbach: Thanks.  Hydrogen will be a while (docbook recording and DTD changes).07:46
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dholbachpersia: kwave:07:47
dholbachdpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address07:47
dholbachdebuild: fatal error at line 1239:07:47
dholbachdpkg-source -b kwave-0.7.7 failed07:47
dholbachdaniel@bert:~$ 07:47
persiadholbach: Ah - let me respin those.  Sorry :(07:48
dholbachI'll be off in a bit07:49
dholbachi'm sure you'll find somebody else to do the other uploads07:50
dholbachif not, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors07:50
persiadholbach: k3b and kid3 are fine.  I'll upload the others in a bit.07:50
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persiaAnyone feel like uploading the libflac++ transition?08:05
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persiaOops - it's just kwave.08:07
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imbrandonjdong: http://www.imbrandon.com/index.php/2007/05/02/sudo-apt-get-install-hd-dvd_playback/08:10
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imbrandon( its in the dir name now too )08:10
sharmsimbrandon: awesome08:20
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imbrandonjdong: ( and anyone else that wants ) help me out with a digg or 3 http://digg.com/tech_news/HD_DVD_Code_Converted_to_Audio_in_your_language08:21
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jdongimbrandon: LOL08:25
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psusiwhat happens when two packages contain the same file?  doesn't that make dpkg choke when trying to install the second package?08:44
DktrKranzit complains08:44
persiaI'm getting a docbook error that "_" is an invalid character in some contexts, for utf8 source files.  The same files in latin1 don't generate an error. The UTF8 was generated with iconv.   Could someone nudge me in the right direction?08:45
psusiso how should this be resolved?  I upgraded my home machine last night to feisty and had trouble because two packages contained libaudio.so08:46
psusiso I had to remove one08:46
jdongit's a bug in the two packages08:47
jdongyou can force it manually via dpkg --force-overwrite08:47
jdongbut it is a bug in the packaging of one, the other, or both08:47
jdongand should be filed as such08:47
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psusiok... I'll file a bug then... now wasn't there a way to set it up so that it is ok to have the same file in both?08:48
s-ndh-cwhy is it in both packages if its not a different version or something08:49
s-ndh-cpsusi: how would that work without overwriting?08:50
psusibeats me.... that's why I'm asking08:50
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psusibut I know there is something in there because some packages provide different alternative implementations and dpkg doesn't complain08:51
jdongalternatives are different08:51
jdongI don't know how they're done08:51
psusinow damnit... packages.ubuntu.com can't search for packages that contain a given file name with wild cards in it?08:51
persiapsusi: apt-file08:52
psusidon't have the system in front of me08:52
psusiand I have no apt-file command anyhow on another system here08:53
s-ndh-cslomo: the bashism thing is resolved in debian unstable/testing`s mono-xsp(1-2)-1.2.1-2 package but that thing with checking for the wrong initscript in the preinst of mono-xsp2 is there too, should i file a bug about that there too?08:53
s-ndh-cok will do that08:54
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s-ndh-cslomo: what should i do to show the changes i did to the preinst thing to resolv that? is the output of debdiff between their package and my fixed one enough?08:55
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psusiahh, THERE it is08:59
psusilibasound.so.2.0.0, found in both libasound2 and lib64asound2...08:59
psusiwait... that's not the one from last night... that's a new one...08:59
psusithe one I ran into last night was found in one of the openoffice packages09:00
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psusibah.... I swear it was libaudio.something09:03
s-ndh-cslomo: should i report that for the unstable/testing version only as its the same in the stable one and hasnt been fixed in the unstable/testing version or for both?09:04
slomos-ndh-c: both09:04
s-ndh-cdo i need two emails then? or how would i specify two versions so the bugtracker gets it right09:05
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s-ndh-cslomo: so i need two mails?09:27
s-ndh-ciam kinda unfamilar with the debian bugtracking system09:27
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s-ndh-cslomo: i repoted the issue to debian bugtracker10:28
s-ndh-cfiled the bug for version 1.2.1-2 but mentioned in the mailbody that it exist in the previous(stable) version 1.2.1-1 too10:28
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asacs-ndh-c: probably send a found <bugnumber> 1.2.1-1 control message as well10:50
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ScottKGood morning.10:54
Lutin'morning ajmitch 10:58
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sinisterguyis mpd built by default without aac support?11:38
jdongit's in universe, so almost certainly.11:41
sinisterguyjdong: what file are all the configure flags in in the source package, so i can check/change them11:42
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jdongsinisterguy: debian/rules11:57
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