[12:11] <dj-fu> Is there anyway I can tell apt-get to install stuff to a specific directory
[12:11] <shawarma> no
[12:12] <dj-fu> heh
[12:12] <dj-fu> sweet
[12:12] <shawarma> that would violate the entire idea of our packaging.
[12:12] <sahafeez> I added a question to this doc - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAP-Samba_PDC_%28for_Linux_and_Windows%29#preview
[12:12] <dj-fu> It wouldn't violate my idea of packaging
[12:12] <dj-fu> being a community focused distro and all
[12:12] <sahafeez> at the bottom. anyone here have any thoughts as it has not been answered
[12:12] <dj-fu> s/php/perl/
[12:13] <shawarma> dj-fu: Just symlink it?
[12:13] <dj-fu> move it and then symlink to it, symlinking to it is an inapplicable idea unfortunately
[12:13] <dj-fu> (chroot)
[12:16] <dj-fu> w00t
[12:20] <dj-fu> It's a shame that the licensing difficulties are restricting Ubuntu from moving forward, mod_security is pretty gangsta
[03:17] <r00tintheb0x> hey all
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone know how to keep SSHd from being hammered.
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> Like setting a retry timeout?
[07:03] <pschulz01> I am looking to install an IRC server with SSL. Does anyone here have any preferences? There are the following packages to choose from dancer-ircd, ircd-hybrid,ircd-irc2, ircd-ircu, ngircd, rageircd  
[10:26] <[miles] > morning guys
[10:26] <[miles] > I've put apt-proxy on a 6.06LTS server
[10:26] <[miles] > it's working for the clients that are feisty
[10:26] <[miles] > but for edgy clients, nope
[10:26] <[miles] > :-\
[10:26] <[miles] > any ideas please?
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> what 'doesnt work' about it?
[10:28] <[miles] > it just sits there when trying to get the headers
[10:28] <[miles] > it's connecting
[10:28] <[miles] > I can do a telnet from the edgy client to the proxy...
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> drat. dinner. 30-60 minutes and i'll be back
[10:28] <[miles] > also when I do the update, I can see in the server that netstat shows the tcp connection
[10:28] <[miles] > np
[10:28] <[miles] > :)
[10:28] <[miles] > enjoy
[11:10] <foo> http://news.com.com/Dell+picks+Ubuntu+for+Linux+PCs/2100-7344_3-6180419.html
[11:11] <foo> Now if only dell sold servers with ubuntu LTS :)
[11:11] <[miles] > jeje
[11:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> [miles] , are you sure your sources are set correctly for edgy on the apt-proxy/client, and are you sure the mirror your pointing to is currently online/working?
[11:14] <[miles] > yep
[11:14] <[miles] > there correct
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> so if you let the edgy system connect directly to the repository it works/
[11:14] <[miles] > nod
[11:16] <[miles] > it just waits for headers on the client
[11:17] <[miles] > and it's not logging anything to the server
[11:17] <[miles] > it's real weird
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> that is odd - works connected directly to the repository, but not the proxy
[11:19] <[miles] > nod
[11:20] <[miles] > sorry, it's dapper clients, not edgy
[11:20] <[miles] > that fail
[11:22] <[miles] > mmm
[11:22] <[miles] > http://pastebin.ca/467071
[11:22] <[miles] > :O
[11:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. bug of some sort perhaps. are you doing fancy stuff with custom python packages?
[11:25] <[miles] > mmm nope 
[11:25] <[miles] > any good alternative to apt-proxy ?
[11:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> A. try reinstalling it, and or B, have you checked its log files?
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you have anotehr 'normal' proxy use it, but not sure about apt-proxy replacemnts
[11:27] <[miles] > nope, don't have a normal proxy
[11:28] <[miles] > real weird init
[11:28] <[miles] > I'll reinstall it
[11:31] <[miles] > nope.. 
[11:31] <[miles] > it still dumps that python bug in the logs
[11:31] <[miles] > damn it
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> filea  bug.
[11:33] <[miles] > gonna have to I guess
[11:33] <[miles] > so strange :-|
[11:33] <[miles] > I'm asking in #apt-proxy also
[11:33] <[miles] > see if they come up with anything
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> good idea
[11:35] <[miles] > then I'll file a bug
[11:35] <[miles] > but... coffee and smoke calls me...
[11:35] <[miles] > ;)
[11:35] <[miles] > bbiab
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:45] <[miles] > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/69551
[11:45] <[miles] > mmm
[11:45] <[miles] > nope
[11:46] <[miles] > sorry miss read
[11:57] <[miles] > BUGGER
[11:57] <[miles] > found it
[11:57] <[miles] > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-proxy/+bug/66042
[11:57] <[miles] > Found a work around here:
[11:57] <[miles] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1104006&postcount=3
[11:57] <[miles] > Delete the line
[11:57] <[miles] > Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[11:57] <[miles] > from apt.conf.
[11:57] <[miles] > For whatever reason, apt-proxy now works just fine from localhost, as well as the second scenario in which it's a different VM on the same machine.
[11:57] <[miles] > nasty!
[11:57] <[miles] > nasty nasty!
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> why does your apt.conf have the false line?
[11:59] <[miles] > no idea
[11:59] <[miles] > dapper clients have it
[11:59] <[miles] > feisty clients dont
[12:04] <[miles] > weird, but fixed
[12:06] <[miles] > now just to get pyzord server setup
[12:06] <[miles] > lol
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know how to undo this? my hdd throws out an error when i try and run a sertain comand - i asume its trying to write to some bit of the hdd it shouldnt. it mounts the drive read only. how can i remount it r/w so its usable again?
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> and how can i fsc it? will i have to live cd?
[12:09] <[miles] > Kamping_Kaiser: wait
[12:09] <[miles] > Kamping_Kaiser: it's mounting it read only yeah
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm?
[12:11] <[miles] > boot it with a live cd
[12:11] <[miles] > and mount it rw no?
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> thers a way to remount on the fly, i was thinking someone might know
[12:11] <[miles] > mount -w
[12:12] <[miles] > well if the partition is in use, you can't unmount it
[12:12] <[miles] > obviously
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> well the kernel managed, so i think i should be able to as well
[12:12] <[miles] > personally I find the best live cd for shit like this is GRML
[12:13] <[miles] > then just mount -w /dev/sdaXX /mnt
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[12:14] <[miles] > nada mas
[12:14] <[miles] > I would'nt recommend actually having the system running if the HD is giving errors mate
[12:14] <[miles] > no way jose
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont have spare 40 gig drives, unfortunately
[12:16] <[miles] > for what?
[12:16] <[miles] > I'm saying..
[12:16] <[miles] > boot a live cd, and then go about finding out whats up with the partition
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> to replace the one thats failing.
[12:16] <[miles] > is it genuinlly fucked tho?
[12:16] <[miles] > do you feel confident it's really got bad errors
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, i think its just a filesystem thing.
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> since it only does this when it tries writing certain files 
[12:18] <[miles] > then
[12:18] <[miles] > do what I said
[12:18] <[miles] > and fschk it
[12:36] <shawarma> You can remount stuff with "mount -o remount,ro /dev/whatever /whereeveritsmounted"
[12:37] <shawarma> (for remounting read-only, of course)
[12:37] <shawarma> Not all mount options can be changed that way, though.
[01:44] <mzungu> Hi all, not sure if this is the appropriate chan - but here goes:  i've a dapper server, with a telephony card, and am trying to install bayonne.  I have a customised ver, which compiled no probs on the old server, but i get errors when compiling on dapper - ok, step back - let's try the dapper version - sudo apt-get source bayonne - sudo apt-get build-dep bayonne - and this also has the same failure, which i find strange as surely th
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats the error (and are we missing some of that comment?)
[01:47] <mzungu> ok - and no, i just meant my q is long ;)
[01:47] <mzungu> bayonne.h:2084: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of Conference with no type
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> so the source downloads ok, but wont build? thats a bug then probably (if its the source from ubuntu)
[01:48] <mzungu> i understand the error is caused by declaring type out of a block, but that would mean modifying a mass of code
[01:48] <mzungu> which i can't believe is the case
[01:49] <mzungu> yeah - i get the same error with both my source and the standard ubuntu source
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> better file a bug then
[01:50] <mzungu> :(
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:50] <mzungu> i was hoping it was me doing something stupid (usually the case ;) )
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> from what you describe its not, but i couldnt say for sure ;)
[01:52] <mzungu> have you tried compiling a std ubuntu source pkg? or anybody on chan? - i figure this must be a common prob
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have built from source yes. quite a few packages.
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> firefox+thunderbird+hals gui+others
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> and apt-get build dep app; apt-get source app worked a treat
[01:53] <mzungu> yeah - i also built the telephony card driver from source with no prob
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> what release was that?
[01:54] <mzungu> i wonder if i'm missing a dependancy
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'd bet on yoru compiler myself.
[01:54] <mzungu> the server? dapper
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like (to a non-coder) that ISO C++ is being treated differently this time to when it worked
[01:55] <mzungu> yeah - but i wonder how the binary got into dapper universe?
[01:55] <mzungu> surely the souce was compiled on dapper?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure what the buildd's run, but the packages are meant to be biult in a clean chroot each time
[01:56] <mzungu> ah well
[01:57] <mzungu> yes, i saw that - debootstrap?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> pbuilder or similar
[01:58] <mzungu> i think more headscrathing in order before i file a bug report ;)
[01:58] <mzungu> s/scrath/scratch/
[01:59] <mzungu> thanks for the help
[08:09] <maek> how do I restart services in 7.04?
[08:09] <sahafeez> ... /etc/init.d/serversname restart
[08:09] <maek> I thought there was some new service manager?
[08:10] <sahafeez> there is something called launchpad however it is not the default
[08:10] <maek> ah. thanks. I should have looked before I asked. sorry. I just figured it was all different now.
[08:12] <slackwarelife> maek: you can use gksu services-admin, or install bum
[08:13] <sahafeez> what is gksu?
[08:14] <sahafeez> ah, ok
[08:15] <maek> oh yeah, bum. I dont have a gui on these boxes though.
[08:16] <sahafeez> does anyone know anything about the start for ldap changing between 6.x and 7.04
[08:22] <Nafallo> ehrm... launchpad? :-)
[08:22] <Nafallo> that's an odd context to see that word in.
[08:23] <Nafallo> I use sudo invoke-rc.d service action anyway :-)
[08:47] <slackwarelife> sahafeez: I'm using ldap on a my personal server 7.04  with LDAP e kerberos, I don't find changing, my configuration works fine, I find new gui tool, gtk-authtool to set the clients, but i don'y like it many. 
[08:48] <sahafeez> thanks.
[10:41] <kjaer> Are any of you part of the soho server project ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/SmallBusinessServer?highlight=%28SmallBusinessServer%29
[11:11] <shawarma> kjaer: I'm doing SOHObuntu.
[11:12] <shawarma> Which is kind of the same.
[11:12] <shawarma> Only it's an SoC project.
[11:12] <shawarma> kjaer: Hvad da? :-)
[11:15] <kjaer> Herligt :-)
[11:16] <kjaer> Jeg s bare at canonical sgte server folk, og tnkte det kunne vre et udemrket arbejde, i sr fordi man kunne arbejde hjemmefra.
[11:16] <shawarma> English is still the proper language, though. :-)
[11:16] <kjaer> Roger
[11:17] <shawarma> Anything in particular you'd like to know?
[11:17] <ajmitch> hi shawarma 
[11:17] <shawarma> ajmitch: Ahoy there!
[11:17] <kjaer> Well, I have used ubuntu to make what is described at that link.
[11:17] <shawarma> ajmitch: Shouldn't you be on a plane by now?
[11:17] <ajmitch> hah
[11:17] <ajmitch> no, I leave tomorrow night
[11:18] <kjaer> Then I saw http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#head-9a9627b56fd16e9c958afc0774a78ef29d3c9098 , and thought that I could get involved in creating a gui for just that, if canonical would employ me.
[11:18] <kjaer> But first of all, I wanted to know how far the project is.
[11:18] <shawarma> The one you linked to was never really done.
[11:18] <ajmitch> funny
[11:18] <ajmitch> another one wanting to apply
[11:19] <shawarma> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer on the other hand is going to be done.
[11:19] <shawarma> ajmitch: Yeah.
[11:19] <shawarma> Please form a queue behind me. :-)
[11:19] <ajmitch> shawarma: we'll have to talk about these specs in seville
[11:19] <kjaer> ajmitch, Plenty of us ?
[11:19] <ajmitch> so that we don't overlap
[11:19] <shawarma> ajmitch: Indeed.
[11:20] <ajmitch> fds ftw :)
[11:20] <shawarma> ajmitch: Did you finally mail hr?
[11:20] <ajmitch> yeah
[11:20] <shawarma> woot!
[11:20] <ajmitch> we'll see how long it takes to get a rejection email :)
[11:20] <ajmitch> anyway, I have to run off to work, back later :)
[11:20] <shawarma> cheers
[11:21] <kjaer> :-)
[11:21] <kjaer> shawarma, What needs to be done, where can I help ?
[11:22] <shawarma> kjaer: Well, UDS is nex week where we decide what to focus on for the next release.
[11:22] <kjaer> In Sevilla ?
[11:23] <shawarma> kjaer: As I said, I'll be doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer . I'll feature a nifty plugin architecture so that you can easily help out once the framework is done.
[11:23] <shawarma> kjaer: right.
[11:25] <kjaer> Do you have any thoughts on, how to create the user interface and its tools ?
[11:25] <kjaer> I really think yast2 is great, since it is both ncurses and graphical. A web frontend, and a curses frontend would be great.
[11:25] <shawarma> kjaer: It'll be web based (using nevow).
[11:26] <shawarma> Never used yast.
[11:27] <slackwarelife> kjaer 
[11:27] <shawarma> The basic idea is that each plugins define a number of fields that it needs for configuration. These fields will be presented on the web, and the plugin will generate configuration files. The web interface will handle conflicts (in case of manual edits) in a clever way.
[11:27] <slackwarelife> kjaer: openSuse yast2 ??? Yes it's very good to management clients !!!
[11:29] <kjaer> slackwarelife, I like that I can ssh into the box, and run yast2 from there. I honestly don't like web frontends for administrivia.
[11:29] <kjaer> shawarma, I had some of the same ideas.
[11:30] <shawarma> kjaer: I don't particularly like web frontends for stuff either. I prefer configuration files. But I'm not the target audience. :-)
[11:31] <kjaer> shawarma, Have you had a look at longhorn home server, or apples equivilant ?
[11:31] <shawarma> Nevertheless, I've got a ton of stuff I need to have done by tomorrow morning, so /me --> afk
[11:31] <shawarma> kjaer: Nope.
[11:32] <kjaer> shawarma, http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/
[11:32] <kjaer> They have some nice tools, you could borrow some ideas from.
[11:34] <shawarma> It's okay to say "steal". :-)
[11:35] <kjaer> Sure.
[11:35] <kjaer> But they kind of suck for some things. So don't just copy blindly ;-)
[11:35] <shawarma> Looks shiny.
[11:36] <kjaer> http://apcmag.com/5973/preview_gallery_windows_home_server_beta_2
[11:38] <sahafeez> anyone point out to me why i cannot get phpldapadmin working
[11:43] <slackwarelife> Sorry, I'm not so expert, but I don't like web php admin interfaces, these require apache and some other modules which are to big for my clients, for example to manager my ldap I use gq, a little front-end gtk based, it's very fast (it is the reason beacuse I like gtk yast2). Sorry :(
[12:02] <sahafeez> how do i see what version of php apache thinks it is running?
[12:06] <kjaer> sahafeez, In a php document, you can do <?php phpinfo(); ?> and run it.
[12:07] <sahafeez> thanks. just figured out that the docs are wrong an i had to enable php in apache 1st ;)
[12:07] <kjaer> Else you can check in /etc/apache/mods-enabled/ which version is loaded.
[12:07] <sahafeez> cool
[12:07] <sahafeez> yes! it works. thanks!
[12:08] <kjaer> You're welcome.
[12:09] <sahafeez> is it bad form to edit a doc/howto that someone put up in the help section - or should i just add it as coments at the bottom?
[12:09] <kjaer> Depends.