[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #13099 in Ubuntu "problems with a wireless mouse (model targus) (dup-of: 37004)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13099
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111648 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "conflicts wit xorg-driver-fglrx and nvidia-glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111648
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[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111674 in xorg (main) "can't change resolution on compaq nw8240, ati driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111674
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[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #33108 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Synaptics features not always available on resume from S3" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/33108
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[04:23] <tepsipakki> bryce: ping?
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[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111257 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (universe) "totem crashes with 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)' when using compiz and xserver-xorg-video-intel driver" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111257
[05:51] <bryce> hi tepsipakki
[05:54] <seb128> so, did you start xorg syncs and merges yet? ;)
[06:00] <bryce> well, just one module, for practice... protoinput
[06:00] <bryce> I put it on my people page but haven't submitted it; I need to learn more about what Timo's plans are and such
[06:01] <seb128> ok
[06:01] <jcristau> a few input drivers don't build with inputproto 1.4, you might want to wait for it to be fixed upstream
[06:01] <seb128> I think there is a good part of xorg that can be synced on Debian
[06:01] <bryce> ah ok
[06:02] <jcristau> (fd.o #10262)
[06:03] <bryce> jcristau: excellent, thanks
[06:03] <jcristau> np
[06:16] <jcristau> bryce: tepsipakki started pushing a bunch of stuff from ubuntu on git.d.o, so next time you have to update the drivers most of them can be synced
[06:19] <bryce> cool, yeah he mentioned that to me last week
[06:45] <tepsipakki> also some of the diff from xorg (the package) 
[06:45] <tepsipakki> hi, btw
[06:45] <tepsipakki> the rest of the xorg diff is still under review by gravity, I think
[06:48] <tepsipakki> bryce: I know it's probably a bit early, but do you have plans for keeping the ubuntu-packaging in a VCS? I sent an email (before you were hired) to TB asking if it could be maintained in git.d.o, but it's really up to you I guess (or TB/sabdfl :)
[06:54] <bryce> heya tepsipakki
[06:54] <bryce> tepsipakki: since xorg itself is maintained in git, I think maintaining the packaging in git makes a lot of sense
[06:55] <bryce> I've some basic git experience via nfs and cairo so that'd be fairly easy for me
[06:55] <bryce> how has the packaging been maintained so far?
[06:56] <tepsipakki> apt-get source; <play around>; dput :)
[06:56] <bryce> heh
[06:57] <tepsipakki> so git would be a wise choice, yes
[07:04] <tepsipakki> bryce: I'll follow up on the mail I sent to TB and add you to CC, so that you can work it out with TB :)
[07:04] <tepsipakki> bbl, dinner ->
[07:04] <bryce> ok cool
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #99359 in ppracer (universe) "planetpenguin-racer does not show text (dup-of: 99158)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99359
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[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #111859 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (universe) "Rotating screen doesn't change orientation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111859
[10:49] <tepsipakki> bryce: about my xorg plans; first try to merge the changes appropriate for debian in git.d.o, then start syncing/merging stuff carefully. It should be quite a bit less painful compared to the previous push
[10:52] <bryce> cool
[10:53] <bryce> tepsipakki: I started tinkering with it yesterday, to see what sorts of pre-requisites there are.
[10:54] <bryce> It seems that there is an order that things should be merged in?  I saw on your launchpad page the order you did packages in 7.2 - will it be the same basic order for 7.3?
[10:55] <tepsipakki> yes, although there aren't that many changes since 7.2
[10:55] <bryce> also, I was curious if we can do the modules in chunks, or if all the packages need to be merged in one go?  How bad are interdependencies?
[10:55] <bryce> ah, that's good to know
[10:55] <jcristau> bryce: the driver abi hasn't changed since 7.1
[10:56] <tepsipakki> jcristau: are you sure, I remember it was bumped for 1.3?
[10:56] <jcristau> bryce: but xserver 1.4 will have a different abi for both input and video drivers
[10:56] <tepsipakki> oh
[10:56] <bryce> well, to compile xserver I noticed it required newer stuff (e.g. protoinput)
[10:59] <tepsipakki> failed to compile?
[11:00] <bryce> sorry, configure complained about a missing dependency
[11:00] <bryce> (this was the xserver from xorg git)
[11:01] <jcristau> from master?
[11:01] <bryce> from kpackard, not sure if that's considered master or a separate branch
[11:01] <bryce> er, keithp
[11:02] <tepsipakki> ok, but 1.3 in debian should be fine
[11:02] <jcristau> master requires inputproto >= 1.4.2, but 1.3 should be ok
[11:03] <tepsipakki> jcristau: wasn't there a plan to put server-1.4 prereleases in experimental?
[11:04] <tepsipakki> when there's something useful
[11:04] <jcristau> tepsipakki: I guess we'll try. There's a mesa upload in new, which was the first step, and I've started merging the packaging of the server to master locally
[11:05] <jcristau> I think gravity has a build too
[11:05] <tepsipakki> ok, then we could merge with 1.3 in the meantime, to shake things up a bit :)
[11:08] <tepsipakki> what compiler is the default in debian, gcc-3.4?
[11:09] <tepsipakki> jcristau: ^^, do you remember offhand?
[11:09] <jcristau> 4.1
[11:10] <tepsipakki> okay, so it's the same. Ubuntu has had a --no-ssp flag added, but maybe that's not needed anymore?
[11:11] <tepsipakki> I'll check why it was there in the first place..
[11:11] <tepsipakki> oops, it was "-fno-stack-protector"
[11:15] <tepsipakki> I'd say drop it
[11:15] <tepsipakki> here is the original bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/54726
[11:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 54726 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Random freezes in X" [Undecided,Rejected]  
[11:15] <tepsipakki> sorry
[11:15] <tepsipakki> bug 54650
[11:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 54650 in gcc-4.1 "GCC SSP breaks xorg-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54650
[11:15] <jcristau> maybe there's a difference in how gcc is configured
[11:16] <tepsipakki> of course
[11:16] <tepsipakki> since SSP needs to be turned on, right?
[11:16] <tepsipakki> and it was done for edgy
[11:16] <jcristau> yes, it might not be enabled in debian
[11:22] <tepsipakki> hum, I'll just reply to the bug and ask for testing 1.2 without that option
[11:27] <tepsipakki> fedora has used SSP for a while now, and they don't seem to have that option for the server spec
[11:28] <tepsipakki> not that it proves anything :)
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #54650 in gcc-4.1 (main) "GCC SSP breaks xorg-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54650