[12:14] <gbm> :?
[12:15] <gbm> iy kubuntu will frreeze soon
[12:18] <epimeth> how do I set the key mappings?  my volume up/down buttons change the volume level by 20% at a go!
[12:20] <venik> My Kubuntu lost its menu and panels!  I did not intentionally change anything!  I have rebooted, but there is no K menu or the quick launch panel, the trash can, etc.!
[12:20] <venik> How do I restore them?
[12:20] <piotrek> !polish
[12:20] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:21] <nuu> hey, is anybody here running kubuntu on a laptop ?
[12:21] <|ericsson|> nuu: I guess that you are...
[12:21] <nuu> |ericsson|: yeah, i've only been asking about this for a week now
[12:22] <nuu> i wonder if there's anyone left in the world that doesnt know it ;)
[12:22] <|ericsson|> nuu: that would be me then..
[12:22] <|ericsson|> nuu: let me guess...wi-fi issues?
[12:22] <nuu> you didnt know it, or you run kub on a lappie ? :)
[12:22] <nuu> no, no....i wish
[12:23] <nuu> well, beside my vaio-specific kde issues (at least i think they are such)
[12:23] <nuu> i've a very practical problem
[12:23] <venik> can anyone help me restore those panels at the bottom of my screen, and the K menu?  They died...
[12:23] <tycho> Anyone know how to get kubuntu to use a .ico file for it's icon graphic?
[12:23] <nuu> i use headphones on my lappie.
[12:23] <nuu> now
[12:23] <epimeth> change .ico to .bmp?
[12:23] <nuu> kmix, the mixer program in KDE
[12:23] <venik> I can run the terminal
[12:24] <nuu> it makes you choose which channel you want to handle
[12:24] <nuu> whenever i'm using the laptop speakers, i'm fine with "front speakers" as master channel
[12:24] <nuu> but as soon as i turn to headphones, that slider does nothing. i have to switch to "headphones" as master channel
[12:25] <nuu> of course, there is a single channel that works for both
[12:25] <nuu> ie regulates the volume of both headphones AND laptop speakers output
[12:25] <nuu> namely, the PCM master channel
[12:25] <nuu> there's just one major (to me) issue with that channel
[12:25] <nuu> it doesnt support mute !
[12:25] <nuu> i can't mute it for the life of me
[12:25] <nuu> lower the volume all the way down to zero, no problem
[12:25] <tycho> epimeth: The KDE filter won't let me use anything that ends in .bmp
[12:25] <nuu> but mute just doesnt work
[12:26] <nuu> ideas ?
[12:26] <epimeth> nuu: funnily enough, my "headphone" channel does not change the volume on the headphones, but the speakers *do* get muted when I plug them in and unmutes when I unplug...
[12:26] <epimeth> I literally *just* got my speakers working :-)
[12:26] <epimeth> erm, sound card
[12:27] <epimeth> tycho: open the .ico in Krita and save it as a .png
[12:27] <epimeth> tycho: I'm just suggesting, I don't know this will work :-)
[12:27] <nuu> epimeth: same goes with me
[12:27] <nuu> epimeth: speakers get muted out
[12:27] <tycho> epimeth: Haha, no worries ;-) It's a stupid bug, but I figure if I'm going to have to look at the icon on my desktop all the time, it might as well look nice
[12:28] <nuu> when i plug headphones in, that is
[12:28] <nuu> but i need mute :(
[12:28] <wwolfe> Hi Guys, Can you help with a problem installing an application with Adept ?
[12:28] <nuu> for, say, when boss enters the room and im watching a movie
[12:28] <nuu> for example :)
[12:29] <epimeth> nuu: damnit!  my mute doesn't work either!!!
[12:29] <lieter> wwolfe, what app?
[12:29] <epimeth> nuu: thanks for pointing it out... grrr
[12:29] <nuu> sorry ;)
[12:29] <epimeth> wtf :-(
[12:29] <wwolfe> I'm installing something,  it paused at 35%, and when I go to "Show Details "  it wants an EULA OKed
[12:29] <epimeth> do you know how to configure kmix slightly more than from within its GUI?
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, try to install it using aptitude
[12:30] <wwolfe> but my problem is only half the screen is showing,  No place for Yes/No.  Wierd eh ?
[12:30] <nuu> nop ;/
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, sudo aptitude install [package name] 
[12:30] <wwolfe> OK, I can try aptitude,  thanks Lieter.
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, that way you can click OK in the terminal
[12:31] <wwolfe> Suggestions on how I quit out of Adept in mid-install ?
[12:31] <venik> what does metacity do?
[12:32] <Markeda> So. Anybody here experience with installing stuff under Kubuntu?
[12:32] <lieter> wwolfe, hit cancel?
[12:32] <|ericsson|> nuu: does it make a difference if you 'mute' in the mixer or try to 'right-click' on the icon->mute?
[12:32] <lieter> venik, metacity is the gnome window manager
[12:32] <nuu> |ericsson|: totally! i use fn+f2 to mute ;)
[12:32] <chemist109> epimeth: You can try alsamixer
[12:32] <lieter> venik, just like KWin in KDE
[12:32] <stoft> my mute works :) with fn+ESC
[12:32] <nuu> quicker than grabbing the mouse
[12:32] <stoft> (toshiba)
[12:32] <epimeth> chemist109: and that helps me how?
[12:32] <nuu> stoft: what master channel ?
[12:32] <lieter> venik, it is what draws the windowborders etc.
[12:33] <stoft> nuu: how do I find out?
[12:33] <epimeth> kmix's things are all correct, just no mute and the vol up/down buttons change the level by friggin 20%
[12:33] <nuu> kmix config
[12:33] <wwolfe> lieter, I think my only options are from the menu Adept>Quit.  There is no Cancel button.
[12:33] <chemist109> epimeth: I dunno.  I don't know what your mixer problem is.  I have found alsamixer lists things that kmix sometimes doesn't
[12:33] <venik> How do I restart the window manager in KDE?  I think part of it died-- I lost the K menu
[12:33] <epimeth> chemist109: so yea, listing things is fine :-)  thanks anyway
[12:33] <lieter> wwolfe, use that :)
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> venik: that's not the window manager
[12:33] <epimeth> nuu: what about kmix config?
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> try running kicker
[12:34] <nuu> epimeth: just telling stoft where to look
[12:34] <lieter> venik, i dont know, try CTRL+ALT+BACKS{ACE it will restart yout Xserver
[12:34] <wwolfe> lieter, you asked what ? I'm installing VMware Player in 6.0.6
[12:34] <venik> what do I do to see the K menu again?
[12:34] <nuu> alt+f2, kicker
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[12:34] <epimeth> nuu: oh
[12:34] <lieter> wwolfe, just quit adept and use the command line to aptitude install it
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you recommend he restart x when it's a simple fix?
[12:35] <stoft> nuu: any idea where I find that, I know very little about sound on linux...
[12:35] <lieter> Daisuke_Ido, cause i didnt know ;), i use Gnome
[12:35] <nuu> stoft: brb phone
[12:35] <stoft> nuu: k
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:35] <wwolfe> lieter, OK, thanks for your help,  Good night,  Gutten Nickt
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that makes sense
[12:35] <lieter> np wwolfe
[12:36] <epimeth> nuu: ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc !!!!
[12:37] <venik> Cntr-Alt-Backspace restarted my X server, but did not revive my dead K menu
[12:37] <venik> WHen I reboot, I am told that an application had crashed, but not which one
[12:37] <epimeth> nuu: scratch that last one... its pretty useless at first glance...
[12:41] <venik> I guess it has not happen to anyone before...
[12:41] <venik> (losing the menu, I mean)
[12:41] <TheDebugger> venik: ...
[12:41] <chemist109> venik: Is the kicker gone?
[12:41] <TheDebugger> venik: Right-click on the bar, then add the applet
[12:41] <chemist109> or just the kmenu?
[12:42] <TheDebugger> The kicker bar
[12:42] <wwolfe> How can I check the name of a package with apt ?  Is it apt query or something like that?
[12:43] <venik> there is no bar to click on!
[12:43] <venik> EVERYTHING is gone
[12:43] <TheDebugger> wwolfe: sudo apt-cache search <word>
[12:44] <chemist109> wwolfe: sudo apt-cache search packagename
[12:44] <venik> I have rebooted, etc.-- nothing worked
[12:44] <TheDebugger> venik: alt+f2 then type kicker
[12:44] <wwolfe> Thanks
[12:44] <venik> typing kicker did nothing
[12:45] <TheDebugger> venik: Is that a new installation?
[12:45] <venik> It was last week
[12:45] <TheDebugger> You could delete all your preferences :/
[12:45] <venik> by now I have done many tweaks...
[12:45] <venik> how do I do that?
[12:45] <chemist109> venik: try deleting just the kicker file first...
[12:46] <chemist109> venik: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:47] <orient2000> pclinuxos passes ubuntu. What do you think about it? Pesonally I will stick with kubuntu but I woner about your opinion.
[12:48] <Markeda> Are there any special programs needed to install something with Kubuntu 7.04? I've tried Adept, Apt-get and tar.gz files (./configure, etc) but have been unable to install anything (tried firefox, sunbird and rainlendar). Documentation and Google have only told me what I already know.
[12:48] <venik> stupidly, I have now deleted the kicker file, but not the one you menat
[12:48] <venik> meant
[12:49] <Dragnslcr> Markeda- if Adept isn't working for you, I would guess that something is very wrong with your system
[12:49] <dominic_> ok screw bootsplash(es)
[12:50] <chemist109> venik: What did you delete?
[12:50] <venik> a file called kicker in (I think) /usr/bin
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: lol
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: that's easy to fix
[12:51] <venik> chinese is also easy, but you have to know it
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: first, delete the correct file...
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: I'm gonna help you...
[12:51] <yung_> I just install kubunut 7.04.. how can I see flash with konqueror?
[12:52] <chemist109> venik: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:52] <yung_> Do I need to install flahs player plugin?
[12:52] <reffus> I think automatix could help you
[12:52] <TheDebugger> yung_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:52] <chemist109> venik: then do sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker
[12:52] <yung_> Thanks
[12:52] <venik> I did remove that one as well, but it did not fix anything
[12:53] <chemist109> venik: did you remove it before you deleted the application?
[12:53] <wwolfe> Markeda, What happens when you use Adept ??
[12:53] <venik> after I removed the application
[12:53] <nuu> stoft, epimeth: amixer sset 'PCM' 0
[12:53] <nuu> that works for me to mute the PCM chan
[12:54] <chemist109> venik: Ok, do the sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker
[12:54] <nuu> now to bind it to my fn+f2 key ;)
[12:54] <Markeda> wwolfe, I get a bunch of cryptic messages. Give me a moment, and I'll get a screenshot of it.
[12:55] <venik> did that, and still no K menu
[12:55] <yung_> TheDebugger: I got "page loaded" on the status bar, but can't see flash...
[12:55] <yung_> Do I need to reboot?
[12:56] <chemist109> venik: You need to type kicker in a terminal
[12:56] <venik> kicker is already running
[12:56] <chemist109> venik: You have the kicker bar?
[12:57] <venik> No-- nothing
[12:57] <Markeda> Er, ok, I'm a newb... It just worked, and I can't figure out what I did differently...
[12:57] <dwidmann> I'm getting a really weird error message :\
[12:58] <venik> I see no kicker (I would not know it if I saw it-- what does it do?)
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: I'm not sure what to try next.  You could completely remove kicker and then reinstall it.
[12:58] <orient2000> How to call kicker? Ctrl + something?
[12:58] <venik> what does it do?
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: It's a bar across the bottom of your screen
[12:58] <venik> well, that is gone
[12:58] <gusho> hello, how do I change the monitor resolution in kubuntu
[12:58] <venik> is that connected to the K menu?
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: the K menu is in the kicker
[12:59] <venik> ok.  I am removing and reinstalling kicker
[01:00] <chemist109> venik: do it with: sudo apt-get remove --purge kicker
[01:00] <venik> I missed the purge
[01:00] <gusho> does anyone know how I can change the monitor resolution
[01:00] <venik> I typed sudo aptitude remove kicker
[01:01] <chemist109> venik: you can re-install it then purge it then reinstall it again.  --purge is supposed to clear out any configuration files.
[01:01] <epimeth> nuu!  how do I bind keys???
[01:02] <epimeth> and cheers for the shortcut
[01:02] <soulrider> yay, ubuntuforums wished me a happy birthday :P
[01:02] <epimeth> I assume amixer is the actual mixer that kmixer sits on top of?
[01:02] <soulrider> !xorg
[01:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <soulrider> gusho: follow that link
[01:02] <nuu> epimeth: im trying to hook into the sonypi acpi event for when i push the "mute" key combo
[01:02] <nuu> it indeed runs a script
[01:02] <nuu> in /etc/acpi
[01:02] <orient2000> !kicker
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <nuu> i dunno about your laptop
[01:03] <epimeth> soulrider: happy birthday! 2nd or 3rd?
[01:03] <soulrider> 19th :P
[01:03] <epimeth> soooo... its not your birthday!
[01:04] <soulrider> yes, it is :P
[01:04] <soulrider> its my 19th bday :P
[01:04] <soulrider> may 3rd :P
[01:04] <wwolfe> its my birthday now,
[01:04] <soulrider> its not may 3rd here though yet :P
[01:04] <soulrider> awesome wolferine
[01:04] <soulrider> wwolfe: *
[01:04] <wwolfe> HAPPY BIRTHDAY to all 3rd May-ers
[01:04] <soulrider> my grandpas bday is the 3rd of may too
[01:05] <dell190_>  Can someone tell me how i can get the Firefox icon in the k menu please
[01:05] <epimeth> happy 3rd of may to all people in GMT and over!
[01:05] <venik> OK-- reintalled it.
[01:05] <venik> Shall I type kicker now?
[01:05] <soulrider> dell190_:  it should be under Internet
[01:06] <chemist109> venik: Yes try it again
[01:06] <venik> error-- kicker is already running
[01:06] <dell190_> soulrider: it isn't, i have to press ALT+F2 then type firefox in order for it to run
[01:06] <chemist109> venik: try killall kicker then try running it again
[01:07] <epimeth> nuu: one problem tho... hitting "mute" *does* show a big "mute" on my screen...
[01:07] <venik> got it-- thanks a lot!
[01:07] <soulrider> dell190_:  right clickt he k menu and then edit it
[01:07] <venik> It is all back
[01:07] <chemist109> venik: It
[01:07] <mardi> yay venik!
[01:07] <chemist109> s working?
[01:07] <chemist109> Great!
[01:07] <epimeth> so I assume kde's OCD (or is that kmix's OCD???) is mapped properly, its just that it's muting the wrong device
[01:07] <epimeth> nuu ^
[01:07] <venik> why it died is another question....
[01:08] <chemist109> venik: Best not to ask...
[01:09] <venik> I escaped WINDOWS for this?   ;-)
[01:09] <chemist109> :-)
[01:09] <mardi> feels good eh? :D
[01:10] <tullle> nice OS :D
[01:11] <stoft> nuu, you back?
[01:11] <orient2000> pclinuxos passes ubuntu. What do you think about it? Pesonally I will stick with kubuntu but I woner about your opinion.
[01:12] <venik> WHy is there a blank icon on the left of my bottom panel?
[01:13] <venik> It looks like a white sheet of paper
[01:13] <venik> with its bottom right folded
[01:13] <epimeth> what happens when you right-click on it?
[01:13] <venik> with no name
[01:13] <orient2000> I have it tooo simetimes. Blank icon.
[01:13] <epimeth> venik: ^
[01:13] <chemist109> venik: Sounds like an application that's lost its icon
[01:14] <venik> I removed it several times, but it is still there
[01:14] <nuu> stoft: i'm fiddling with my acpi scripts atm, to manage the "mute" key and act accordingly on my own, and launching amixer manually
[01:14] <chemist109> venik: what is it?
[01:14] <orient2000> It is a dead icon. Nothink happans.
[01:14] <nuu> epimeth: the problem is with kmix, i think it doesnt support muting for the PCM channel
[01:14] <stoft> nuu: by master before, you mean this? MasterMixer=ALSA::Intel_82801DB-ICH4:1
[01:14] <nuu> nope stoft, i meant the master channel in kmix
[01:15] <venik> When I right click on it it says: Add application, Configure quicklaunch, or remove
[01:15] <nuu> ie the channel your volume controls regulate currently
[01:15] <epimeth> grrr
[01:15] <nuu> epimeth: your box appears because the modules that handle your keypresses handle the message nicely
[01:15] <chemist109> venik: That sounds like the quicklauncher.
[01:15] <nuu> the problem is, when they emulate the correct button, kmix ignores it because muting ain't supported
[01:15] <nuu> you can verify this by hitting "mute" with the mouse, when pcm is master chan
[01:15] <nuu> it wont work either
[01:16] <chemist109> venik: You can add applications and they show up as tiny icons.
[01:16] <nuu> at least doesnt here
[01:16] <venik> it is the same context menu I get from all otehr applications near it
[01:16] <epimeth> nuu: I can verify that that isn't happening
[01:16] <venik> ok
[01:16] <epimeth> sound is not muting
[01:16] <epimeth> help me!!! :-)
[01:16] <dominic_> k, when a program, firefox for example turns into transparent black. what does it mean? its frozen?
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> venik- it might be a text file or something that you open often enough that KDE thinks should be in the quicklaunch area
[01:16] <stoft> nuu: I think it's that one. opening kmix I have a "Select Master Channel" and Master concurs with the above line in my kmixrc
[01:17] <nuu> so what i'm doing is modifying the /etc/acpi/mutebtn.sh script (that gets called when event /etc/acpi/events/sony-mute is invoked as you press the mute combination on sony lappies, same goes with other brands with different events)
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> venik- I noticed that it kept adding icons even though the "automatically add items" option was turned off
[01:17] <nuu> my modification involves saving the current volume level if sound isnt muted, and invoking amixer manually from within the acpi sh script
[01:17] <nuu> so as to forcefully mute it
[01:17] <chemist109> venik: try right clicking on a blank spot on the kicker and going to remove from panel>applet and see if quicklaunch is there.
[01:17] <nuu> and the other way round, retrieving the saved volume level and restoring it, if the sound is currently muted
[01:18] <nuu> it boils down to trivial bash scripting, it's easy peasy and it'll fix it, finally :)
[01:19] <stoft> :)
[01:19] <nuu> stoft: if you select PCM as master channel, can you mute it as you can with every other channel ?
[01:19] <stoft> hang on
[01:19] <stoft> yes
[01:19] <nuu> and does the sound *actually* get muted ?
[01:19] <nuu> or it just says its muting it, but really doing nothing ?
[01:20] <venik> when I left click on that empty thing I get: malformed url
[01:20] <chemist109> nuu: are you using kmixctrl to save settings?
[01:20] <epimeth> nuu: how's this for sneaky sneaky:  selected "front" as my master channel
[01:20] <epimeth> now muting works
[01:20] <stoft> it is being muted, but not sure if some daemon needs restarting
[01:20] <epimeth> but volume is still too much... how do I change the vol up/down settings?
[01:20] <nuu> epimeth: that wont work as soon as you plug earphones in
[01:20] <nuu> :|
[01:21] <nuu> chemist109: kmixcrl, interesting
[01:21] <lunar-raven> !aiglx
[01:21] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[01:21] <nuu> chemist109: i was going for the "hard" way, ie saving the level to a file under /var/run, alongside with the current mute state
[01:21] <epimeth> bzzzzz!!! I'm so sorry nuu, that was an incorrect answer!  but let's see what you've won!
[01:21] <chemist109> nuu: I think alsactl does the same thing.
[01:21] <nuu> but thanks for mentioning that
[01:21] <epimeth> nuu has one a round trip ticket to his office tomorow morning, where he will work all day and get home pissed
[01:22] <nuu> haha
[01:22] <venik> got to go-- thanks for your help
[01:22] <nuu> epimeth: if you mute front channel, don't you still hear sound when you put headphones in ?
[01:22] <thony> whats C:\ in linux
[01:22] <epimeth> so... you know how to change the amount of volume increase and decrase the vol up/dn buttons do?
[01:23] <epimeth> thony: there isn't any... closest thing to it is /
[01:23] <chemist109> thony: \
[01:23] <nuu> thony: there's no such thing as "c:\" ;)
[01:23] <stoft> C:/ ? ;-)
[01:23] <thony> lol, ok
[01:23] <epimeth> first one iny, baby!  hoorah!
[01:23] <nuu> thony: c:\ is the root of a disk drive. that is represented by something called "mountpoint" in linux
[01:23] <chemist109> oops I meant /
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > HELLO!
[01:24] <nuu> thony: say you mount your "c:" drive under /media/c_drive
[01:24] <thony> nuu: ok
[01:24] <nuu> then /media/c_drive will equal to your "C:\"
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > I need help with my wireless settings
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > ;(
[01:24] <alex__> hi everyone,
[01:24] <epimeth> nuu: nooo!!!!!!
[01:24] <alex__> i have big prob
[01:24] <nuu> epimeth: i do :\
[01:24] <thony> nuu: which is represented by a "/"...
[01:24] <epimeth> now the sound doesn't mute from the speakers when I plug in the headphones!!!
[01:25] <nuu> epimeth: front wont mute headphones
[01:25] <epimeth> nuu, I didn't mean about what you were saying to thony :-)
[01:25] <alex__> whenever i try to install something or update anyting i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18886/
[01:25] <nuu> they're two separate channels
[01:25] <nuu> epimeth: i know
[01:25] <epimeth> nuu: so why does the vol go up/dn on the headphones?
[01:25] <[_uplink_] > anyone that can help me pplease
[01:26] <nuu> epimeth: you're talking about the kmix channel, or the actual volume you hear ?
[01:26] <epimeth> actual volume
[01:26] <nuu> if i pick "front" as master chan, and i plug the headphones, i can regulate front volume, but headphones still get unchanged volume
[01:26] <chemist109> alex__: sudo apt-get -f install will fix your hanging package problem.  It will probably uninstall something, though.
[01:26] <nuu> front volume gets muted instantly as i plug my headphones in, btw
[01:27] <nuu> i think this all boils down to how the sound hardware handles physical plug-in and plug-out
[01:27] <nuu> my lappie will mute front speakers, i dunno what this is due to, perhaps it's the sonypi modules, i wouldnt know
[01:28] <nuu> i'll brb
[01:28] <epimeth> nuu: hows this for screwy:
[01:28] <alex__> still the same prob chemist109
[01:28] <epimeth> nuu: lemme know when you get back
[01:29] <chemist109> alex__: what does: ls -l /etc/inittab     say?
[01:29] <alex__> no such file or directory
[01:30] <VeryHF> Hi All,I have a problem: I have a Ubuntu 6.10 workstation and the printer driver dictates the number of copies no matter what the word editing program is used and what the copies are set to.
[01:30] <chemist109> alex__: That's very bad.  Don't shut down or you might not get it to boot.
[01:31] <alex__> when i do :runit --configure, it says fatal: run has to be process 1
[01:31] <alex__> chemist109
[01:31] <chemist109> alex__: sorry, false alarm
[01:32] <chemist109> You're using feisty, aren't you?
[01:34] <alex__> sorry disconected.
[01:34] <alex__> no such file or directory chemist109
[01:34] <alex__> when i do :runit --configure, it says fatal: run has to be process 1
[01:35] <chemist109> alex__: I didn't realize that feisty had done away with inittab.  runit will never find it because it's not there.
[01:36] <chemist109> alex__: Were these packages for your system?  or an older version?  What system are you running?
[01:37] <jordo23> If k3b says it can't find the MP3 plugin when I start which package should I install?
[01:37] <alex__> which means i can't update or install anything chemist109?
[01:37] <alex__> feisty chemist
[01:38] <chemist109> alex__: I think you'll have to give up on git for the time being.  I think you can fix everything else, though.
[01:38] <alex__> i install kubuntu feisty beta, and now i want to upgrade the kernels chemist109
[01:38] <sumguy231> jordo23: You want the package 'libk3b2-mp3'.
[01:38] <jordo23> sumguy231: Thanks...worked
[01:38] <sumguy231> Hooray. :)
[01:38] <alex__> the problem is that i have another box with the same system,and works fine chemist109
[01:39] <chemist109> alex__: Try: sudo dpkg -r runit git-daemon-run
[01:39] <chemist109> alex__: Then, upgrade to feisty final.
[01:42] <alex__> there doesn't seem to be a problem now, i'll start upgrading to feisty, and if i have any probs i'll get back here, Thanx chemist109
[01:42] <nuu> right, PCM muting now works :)
[01:43] <alex__> thanx again chemist109
[01:43] <alex__> laters
[01:43] <chemist109> alex__: You're welcome. Good luck!
[01:43] <[_uplink_] > hmm, can someone please help me ?
[01:44] <chemist109> [_uplink_] : what is the problem?
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > hello chemist109
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > I have issues with my wireless network
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > it wont connect
[01:45] <[_uplink_] > I barly got Kubuntu
[01:45] <[_uplink_] > *barely
[01:45] <sumguy231> I'm new here myself, but I imagine people will need more specifics like if you're using WEP and maybe what kind of error you get.
[01:46] <levon> does kubuntu support utf-128 bit?
[01:46] <[_uplink_] > well, I have WAP-PSK firewall
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > I use broadcom wi-fi NIC
[01:47] <levon> im using it to encode a python program so im just curious
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > it comes built in
[01:47] <sumguy231> That could very well be your problem. PCI?
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > no no, laptop
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > *notebook
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > HP notebook
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > with windows
[01:48] <levon> aww wait
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > and on windows works perfect
[01:48] <levon> hp??
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > yes, HP Notebook
[01:48] <levon> pci3945 right
[01:48] <sumguy231> Oh, I don't own a laptop or a broadcom card so I probably won't be able to help much. I can tell you broadcom cards are notoriously bad with working in Linux.
[01:48] <levon> wait thats gateway lol
[01:48] <levon> im sure its pci though
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > ;((
[01:48] <levon> uplink
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > well, a friend has an older notebook than mines
[01:48] <levon> who has a problem?
[01:48] <sumguy231> But fear not! Someone knows how to get it to work. Just not me.
[01:48] <levon> i know how
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > his has broadcom too, and he was able to get the wi-fi working
[01:49] <levon> but whats the card
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > my card ?
[01:49] <levon> yes
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > I cant see it
[01:49] <levon> driver
[01:49] <levon> lol
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > it was showing up yesterday
[01:49] <levon> okay hold on i think its pci3945
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > but I went to "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" and commented everything
[01:50] <flaccid> [_uplink_] : including local loopback?
[01:50] <levon> goto adept and download pcid pci3945 and pciu
[01:50] <[_uplink_] > except that one
[01:50] <flaccid> :)
[01:50] <[_uplink_] > well, I got help yesterday and I downloaded the RIGHT driver for it
[01:50] <levon> pci deamon pciu=firmware and pci3945 is actual driver
[01:51] <levon> load thoughs up see what happens
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > and it was SHOWING up, and my network too. but when I tried to connect. It would stay on 28% saying "Configuring device"
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > I tried to connect throw the network manager GUI
[01:51] <levon> uplink
[01:51] <levon> dont pay attention to the connection
[01:51] <levon> its always wrong
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > ;/
[01:51] <levon> mine says its at 2%
[01:51] <levon> but im connected strong
[01:51] <levon> :P
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > OMG
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > LOL
[01:52] <levon> has something to do with the driver
[01:52] <levon> but your pages should be fast
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > it was something with 34XX
[01:52] <omega_point> hi
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > something like that
[01:52] <levon> yes
[01:52] <levon> 3945
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > I just remember it had 34XX on it
[01:52] <chemist109> [_uplink_] : type: lspci
[01:52] <chemist109> and it should tell you what you have
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > on the terminal ?
[01:52] <levon> yep
[01:52] <omega_point> I have a not-that-important question but it's more about how bash works than anything else
[01:53] <levon> and im pretty positive that its going to be pci
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > 06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [AirForce 54g]  802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver (rev 02)
[01:53] <levon> lol
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > -.-"
[01:53] <levon> :P
[01:53] <omega_point> someone willing to give me a hand?
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:53] <sumguy231> omega_point: maybe if you ask it.
[01:53] <levon> so its a pci express tranciever
[01:53] <omega_point> ok
[01:54] <levon> now you should ask how do you set that driver up
[01:54] <levon> www.google.com
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > yeah, built in
[01:54] <levon> hold on ill look
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > yeah, how do I  ?
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > sure
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:54] <omega_point> I've installed VMD, a molecular dynamics visualization program, and I did it wrong, because if I type VMD it doesn't run, just because it's not installed where it's supposed to be
[01:54] <omega_point> (the question is not about that)
[01:55] <omega_point> the thing is I've been reading about .bashrc and .bash_profile and where PATH is set
[01:55] <omega_point> and I've looked into all those files
[01:55] <levon> okay uplink
[01:55] <omega_point> there's not a single mention of the "VMD" program
[01:55] <levon> this is the easiest way i think
[01:55] <omega_point> but if I type vmd it still looks for the executable
[01:55] <levon> do you have the windows driver for it
[01:55] <omega_point> how come?
[01:56] <levon> the wireless driver?
[01:56] <omega_point> it doens't say "unknown command", it says that vmd is not where it's supposed to be, so, there must be any reference about it's path
[01:56] <levon> uplink do you have the driver for the computer but for windows? im thinking from what i read you need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[01:56] <Morrissey> Hi, I was wondering ... does anyone know I can map "Button 8", which is on my mouse, to the "F12" key on my keyboard?
[01:57] <Morrissey> I have xbindkeys installed
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > YES
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > I HAVE IT
[01:57] <levon> okay
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:57] <nuu> stoft, epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18889/
[01:57] <levon> uplink do this sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[01:58] <ejupin> Any one have an idea why my screen goes to a blank screensaver after appx. 5 min? I thought I DEselected all the screensaver and power options, but I guess I'm missing something.
[01:58] <omega_point> (I'm a newbie, if you didn't realise)
[01:58] <levon> you still with me
[01:58] <chemist109> omega_point: what exactly does it say when you launch vmd?
[01:58] <fearless> !wireless
[01:58] <sumguy231> omega_point: Well it must be somewhere in your $PATH or it wouldn't work at all. That's pretty much all I know. As far as I know, bash doesn't look recursively, though. I assume you have done an echo $PATH to look, right?
[01:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <[_uplink_] > sure levon
[01:58] <[_uplink_] > :D:DD
[01:58] <levon> okay
[01:58] <omega_point> omega@power:~$ vmd
[01:58] <omega_point> bash: /usr/local/bin/vmd: /bin/csh: intrprete incorrecto: No existe el fichero  directorio
[01:59] <levon> then do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[01:59] <stoft> nuu: :)
[01:59] <chemist109> omega_point: do you have csh installed?  It looks like your program wants that.
[01:59] <jhutchins> omega_point: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto for how to list what files were installed (and where) by a package.
[01:59] <sumguy231> That error seems to be telling you that /usr/local/bin/vmd tried to call csh, but you don't have it installed. That likely means it's a script.
[01:59] <levon> and a final sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > uplink@uplink-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-common
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > uplink@uplink-laptop:~$
[01:59] <omega_point> thing is that although there's no mention of it in .bashrc and all the related files, it still "knows" it has to look for it
[01:59] <levon> sorry
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:00] <levon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[02:00] <stoft> bedtime, nn nuu, if sound breaks tomorrow I know who's fault it was... ;)
[02:00] <chemist109> omega_point: You should try installing csh
[02:00] <sumguy231> Which launches another executable after doing various things. It might want csh for a reason, so try installing it.
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > ok
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:00] <levon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[02:00] <omega_point> ok. Thanks a lot.
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > is on reading database
[02:00] <sumguy231> I'm not sure what your question is. Do an echo $PATH. /usr/local/bin/vmd should be in there.
[02:00] <jhutchins> omega_point: You know that by default, you're running dash not bash, right?
[02:01] <levon> uplink okay
[02:01] <sumguy231> I mean /usr/local/bin/, not /usr/local/bin/vmd. sorry.
[02:01] <levon> hmm is your nick registered
[02:01] <nuu> stoft: haha gnite ;)
[02:01] <[_uplink_] > nop
[02:01] <omega_point> I know nothing by default
[02:01] <epimeth> nuu, you here?
[02:01] <omega_point> I'm a complete newbie
[02:01] <[_uplink_] > wanna join a blank chan ?
[02:01] <nuu> yup epimeth
[02:01] <jhutchins> sumguy231: Subdirectories of the path shouldn't be added to the path by programs.  In any case, the $PATH variable is only updated when the shell is started.
[02:01] <ko12upt> yes
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> what are the differences between dash and bash?
[02:01] <omega_point> when I open a terminal I'm using dash?
[02:01] <ko12upt> #help
[02:01] <jhutchins> omega_point: Yup.
[02:01] <ko12upt> uplink
[02:02] <[_uplink_] > YES ?
[02:02] <ko12upt> its still levon go here #levonsndiswrapper
[02:02] <chemist109> omega_point: Are you using feisty?
[02:02] <sumguy231> jhutchins: Yeah, I know. What are you referring to?
[02:02] <jhutchins> omega_point: Anyway, there's a command on that page I sent you that will list what vmd installed where.  There might be some doc or man files you can read to get started.
[02:02] <omega_point> my question is not about how to install something "right", it's more about "how things work". I just want to understand how, if there was no mention of  vmd at .bashrc, etc, it still knew it had to look for it
[02:02] <ko12upt> uplink just click it and you will go
[02:02] <omega_point> yes, feisty
[02:02] <[_uplink_] > OK, thank you
[02:02] <ko12upt> yep
[02:02] <jhutchins> omega_point: No, it "recursed" the path, following the subdirectories.
[02:03] <sumguy231> There probably isn't mention of vmd, but there should be mention of /usr/local/bin, the directory it is in.
[02:03] <[_uplink_] > no one in there -.-"
[02:03] <levon> uplink ill help you there #helloimhere
[02:03] <omega_point> it's not even there, vmd is in /home/omega/vmd/vmd1- --something--
[02:04] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:04] <[_uplink_] > thank yYOU
[02:04] <chemist109> omega_point: what does: which vmd    say?
[02:04] <sumguy231> According to bash there is a /usr/local/bin/vmd, though.
[02:04] <levon> lol just go to channel ill help you there lol
[02:04] <sumguy231> And yes, 'which vmd' will tell you exactly where the executable you are running is located.
[02:05] <omega_point> it says /usr/local/bin/vmd
[02:06] <sumguy231> Then that's where it is. And /usr/local/bin should always be in your PATH, therefore bash knows what to do when you type 'vmd'.
[02:07] <omega_point> ok ok ok
[02:07] <omega_point> I get it
[02:07] <omega_point> I'll take a look to the webpage you showed me
[02:07] <omega_point> ok
[02:07] <omega_point> well
[02:07] <omega_point> thabks a lot
[02:08] <omega_point> thanks sumguy231, thanks chemist109
[02:08] <chemist109> welcome
[02:08] <sumguy231> Alright. "Morrisey has left this server" - Wow, Morrisey was here? I should have asked him for an autograph or something.
[02:08] <sumguy231> :)
[02:10] <chemist109> Are you sure you WANTED Morrisey's autograph?
[02:10] <sumguy231> Sure, I enjoy his musical stylings. Not the solo career stuff though, I've never heard any of it. :)
[02:11] <sparr> how can i make the thunderbird composer soft-wrap long lines?
[02:15] <BloodyTux> hi
[02:15] <BloodyTux> anyone need help
[02:15] <Sleepy_Coder> BloodyTux: My girlfriend just broke up with me. :<
[02:15] <Sleepy_Coder> 0.o  Oops...wrong network.
[02:16] <BloodyTux> don't worry... be happy :)
[02:16] <BloodyTux> eventually you'll find someone else
[02:16] <BloodyTux> there's other fish in the sea, to bad most of them are ugly or uber fat
[02:16] <Sleepy_Coder> :<
[02:17] <BloodyTux> lol
[02:17] <Sleepy_Coder> whoo!
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:18] <BloodyTux> :(
[02:18] <BloodyTux> :) sorry
[02:19] <BloodyTux> !Daisuke-Ido
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daisuke-ido - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <BloodyTux> ouch your not popular :D
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> ahahaha
[02:19] <BloodyTux> !tux
[02:19] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[02:19] <BloodyTux> ooooohhh disss
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> !mom
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> :<
[02:20] <stdin> !botabuse
[02:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:20] <Sleepy_Coder> ubotu was never hugged as a child. :<
[02:22] <epimeth> how do I raise screen brightness?
[02:22] <BloodyTux> the costly way or click a couple buttons way?
[02:23] <Sleepy_Coder> ahaha
[02:23] <sichemist> epimeth: you can adjust the gamma with system settings> monitor & display
[02:24] <epimeth> sichemist: not gamma, brightness
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you get the gamma *just* right, you get super powers
[02:25] <sichemist> epimeth: I don't know how you can do that except by adjusting your monitor.  Gamma was a poor second choice.
[02:25] <mardi> isin't brightness adjustment on the montior itslef?
[02:25] <epimeth> thats just it... its a lappy... I was playing with the fn keys... dimmer worked, brightness does not!
[02:26] <sichemist> oops :)
[02:26] <mardi> ouch
[02:26] <epimeth> no! not oops, not ouch! help!!!! :-p
[02:26] <mardi> is it still under warrenty? :p
[02:27] <stdin> epimeth: echo 100 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[02:27] <stdin> maybe
[02:27] <sichemist> roommate's home-- WITH ICE CREAM!
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> brightness down doesn't work either?
[02:27] <sichemist> gotta go!
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ice cream...  mmm
[02:27] <sichemist> Stephen Colbert's Americone Dream
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> see, i'm more of a vermonty python man
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, i have a paper to finish writing, and hopefully i won't cry because i'm out of time and need 3 more pages
[02:29] <dogatemycomputer> quit
[02:34] <dominic_> can anyone help me play avi format in any multi-media players...?
[02:35] <stdin> dominic_: avi isn't a format, it's a container, it's probably divx or something. you probably need w32codecs
[02:35] <stdin> !w32codecs
[02:35] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:35] <dominic_> thanks
[02:36] <thompa> i dont have any network applet
[02:36] <thompa> its gone for some reason and nothing to add
[02:36] <satempler> stdin: in ubuntu installing gstreamer ffmpeg plugin was able to play wmv
[02:37] <Lars_G> Question, in kde/kubuntu who/what/how determines how to call pmount?
[02:37] <stdin> satempler: most kde apps use xine, not gstreamer. so that wouldn't work
[02:37] <satempler> to play divx you need libxine-extracodecs and in adept set to install ubuntu-restricted-extras then un mark them
[02:37] <satempler> ya
[02:37] <thompa> anyone know of a good instan messager, one with japanese sounding name, cant remember
[02:37] <Lars_G> I ask because I have an USB SD reader, and it's being automounted RO
[02:37] <satempler> that what i thought
[02:38] <satempler> the gstreamer plugins install lots of codecs it relies on
[02:38] <satempler> so install then remove just the gstreamer plugin
[02:38] <satempler> you will still have the codecs
[02:39] <shamrockaudio> I accidently added an http address to the repositories and locked them all up. how do i fix it???
[02:39] <lettuce> what's the kde equivilant of "System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager"
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> thompa: gaim/pidgin and kopete are the two big ones
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: there isn't one, afaik
[02:39] <thompa> Daisuke_Ido: do any work with web cam
[02:39] <stdin> shamrockaudio: Kmenu -> Run Command. type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the line
[02:39] <lettuce> afaik?
[02:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i honestly don't know
[02:40] <stdin> lettuce: just look around the kmenu
[02:40] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as i know
[02:40] <satempler> to get rid of the autoremove listing for the codecs just highlight them in a terminal copy the listing then do sudo apt-get install then paste the listing
[02:40] <thompa> Daisuke_Ido: there wascould remember like gamuchi or something one other like yahoo , wish i
[02:40] <thompa> *touchpad error
[02:40] <shamrockaudio> stdn: tried to...says I don't have permission
[02:41] <stdin> shamrockaudio: that's what kdesu is for, it opens it as root
[02:41] <thompa> one problem cant find any wireless applet or anthing, since update
[02:41] <satempler> needs to be a kubuntu version of the restricted extras that will install libxine-extracodecs and libxvid
[02:41] <shamrockaudio> stdn: gotcha
[02:41] <shamrockaudio> thx
[02:42] <stdin> no problem :)
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> gyachi or something like that?
[02:42] <thompa> yes
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> thompa: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/index_gyache.php
[02:43] <thompa> thanks
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it hasn't been updated in some time though
[02:44] <Lars_G> plits?
[02:46] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: i havnt seen intelikey in a while...
[02:46] <thompa> anyone know how to get wireless applet back or what its called?
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: pretty sure i saw him yesterday
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: you mean kwifimanager ?
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> wonder if anyone in here's running any sort of seen script...  doubtful
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: or knetworkmanager
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: there are 2, I think knetworkmanager is default tho
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> as of feisty, yes, knetworkmanager is the default
[02:48] <thompa> stdin: thanks i messed something up in ubuntu, maybe i removed it
[02:49] <lettuce> for kubuntu feisty, is there a way to more easily install video card drivers like in ubuntu? Or do I have to do it the old way?
[02:49] <thompa> it doesnyt help that im on new macbook with madwifi
[02:50] <stdin> thompa: feisty works great with my Atheros card (madwifi)
[02:50] <thompa> stdin: is it an intel macbook
[02:50] <stdin> no, toshiba satellite pro
[02:50] <hakaisou> question.
[02:50] <hakaisou> I'm running edgy right now, should I upgrade to fiesty?
[02:51] <thompa> stdin: there is only one beta driver for this and its ify
[02:51] <stdin> hakaisou: if you want to, you don't have to tho
[02:51] <thompa> intel duo core cant use stable mdwifi
[02:52] <stdin> glad I got the single core version then
[02:52] <hakaisou> are there any reasons why I should update?
[02:52] <stdin> hakaisou: newer, more up-to-data packages
[02:52] <lettuce> hakaisou: feisty is nice, I would suggest updating
[02:52] <hakaisou> ok then.
[02:52] <hakaisou> updating
[02:53] <stdin> supports newer hardware and newer features to
[02:53] <stdin> and better wifi support
[02:53] <lettuce> for kubuntu feisty, is there a way to more easily install video card drivers like in ubuntu? Or do I have to do it the old way?
[02:53] <levon> uplink anywere lol
[02:54] <hakaisou> I have a desktop with the router right on top of it, so wifi is no real advantage to me.  but good to know :D
[02:54] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i forgot how to configure my kubuntu system i only remember that i used to use dpkg-reconfigure
[02:54] <Midspeed> and i forgot the rest, can somebody help me
[02:54] <stdin> Midspeed: to configure what?
[02:54] <Midspeed> video card, sound card all that stuff
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: you seem to be in the know, why is support for rt2500 so poor now?  i recently went to a wired connection instead of wifi, but if i ever had to go wireless, i'd like to know i could.
[02:55] <Midspeed> where it asks about keyboard
[02:55] <levon> uplink hello
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Midspeed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <Midspeed> thanks
[02:55] <levon> uplink you here
[02:55] <levon> uplink you here
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> levon: uplink left
[02:55] <levon> i noticed
[02:55] <levon> flood by accident lol
[02:56] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: not sure, wifi drivers are notorious tho
[02:56] <lettuce> can someone give me the link for the kubuntu feisty video card drivers how to page?
[02:56] <soulrider> is anyone here using the aria2 script for pacman ?
[02:56] <stdin> !nv
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <soulrider> oops, wrong channel
[02:57] <lettuce> thanks
[02:57] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: rt2500 driver is in beta stage too
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i remember it working perfectly in edgy, but it hasn't been a concern for a few months
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> impressive though, i still have decent signals coming from three local wifi routers without having my antenna hooked up
[03:13] <clinton> can someone help me mount a partition?
[03:13] <stdin> what's the problem ?
[03:13] <alias8604> new to linux, tried mounting, think i put it wrong command somehwere
[03:14] <stdin> what command did you put in?
[03:14] <alias8604> i dont remember anymore, but when i try to access the partition, it doesnt show any of the files
[03:14] <alias8604> tried unmounting it, but it says something about cannot create link
[03:15] <stdin> what's the device (eg /dev/had1), what's the file system and where do you want to mount it?
[03:16] <alias8604> its /dev/sda7 ntfs /media/sda7
[03:16] <stdin> dose the command "mount" show it as mounted?
[03:17] <alias8604> no
[03:17] <just-this-time> !l18n
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <stdin> alias8604: so the command you want is "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/sda7 -o umask=0000"
[03:18] <just-this-time> !l10n
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l10n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <ubuntu> oi
[03:18] <ubuntu> alguem tc em portugues ?
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !pt | ubuntu
[03:18] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:18] <ubuntu> ok obrigado
[03:19] <alias8604> its telling me its already mounted or busy
[03:19] <stdin> post the output of the command
[03:19] <alias8604> mount: /dev/sda7 already mounted or /media/sda7 busy
[03:20] <lettuce> has anyone here ever set up beryl in kubuntu?
[03:20] <stdin> what does "mount | grep sda7" show then?
[03:20] <BloodyTux> hello
[03:20] <lettuce> does kubuntu fiesty have xgl built in like ubuntu does?
[03:21] <epimeth> I can't find *anything* on lcd brightness... only "acpi should handle it"
[03:21] <stdin> lettuce: ubuntu doesn't have xgl built in
[03:21] <epimeth> wtf?!?!?
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu doesn't have xgl built in, it has aiglx enabled
[03:21] <lettuce> feisty does
[03:21] <stdin> lettuce: nope
[03:21] <epimeth> anybody know how to brighten the screen if my fn+f10 isn't working?
[03:21] <alias8604> i put that in and it didnt do anything
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> two completely different things (that aim to accomplish the same task, though one is more elegant by far)
[03:22] <lettuce> yes it does, I installed beryl on it and it worked. I didn't install xgl and someone told me that xgl already came with fiesty
[03:22] <stdin> epimeth: something like: echo 100 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[03:22] <dominic_> guys im having problem with apt-get update
[03:22] <stdin> lettuce: xgl no, aiglx yes
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: no, no it doesn't.  beryl runs on aiglx as well
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> whoever told you xgl came with feisty was wrong
[03:22] <lettuce> well I know
[03:23] <stdin> alias8604: post the output of mount to pastebin
[03:23] <stdin> !pastebin
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <BloodyTux> what's xgl? feels noobish
[03:23] <BloodyTux> !xgl
[03:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:23] <BloodyTux> ohg
[03:23] <BloodyTux> *oh
[03:23] <lettuce> so does kubuntu have aiglx insalled already?
[03:23] <epimeth> stdin: tee: /proc/acpt/videa/VGA/LCD/brightness: Invalid argument
[03:23] <dominic_> Fetched 27.6kB in 1s (21.3kB/s)
[03:23] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:23] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:23] <dominic_> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:23] <dominic_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:23] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:23] <stdin> lettuce: yeaah
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: yes
[03:24] <dominic_> i get that problem now...
[03:24] <stdin> epimeth: not videa, video
[03:24] <alias8604> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18898/
[03:24] <BloodyTux> is X not in kubuntu? i compiled tweak and it said Xlibs not found
[03:24] <lettuce> beryl won't work for some reason. has anyone else here installed it on feisty?
[03:24] <epimeth> stdin: you know thats what I wrote :-p
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: you need dev packages
[03:24] <BloodyTux> lettuce: i'm going to on sunday once i get my new graphics card
[03:25] <BloodyTux> oh
[03:25] <BloodyTux> how do i get those?
[03:25] <BloodyTux> whats the package names
[03:25] <BloodyTux> ?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: uyes, beryl works fine on feisty
[03:25] <stdin> epimeth: take a look in the /proc/acpi/ directory for a file called "brightness"
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: no idea, search adept
[03:25] <BloodyTux> k
[03:25] <dominic_> help me please...
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: what sort of video care are you running?
[03:25] <dominic_> Fetched 27.6kB in 1s (21.3kB/s)
[03:25] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:25] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:25] <dominic_> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:25] <dominic_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:25] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:25] <stdin> !paste | dominic_
[03:25] <ubotu> dominic_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste dominic_
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste dominic_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, i was late on that one
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and screwed up, too :)
[03:26] <BloodyTux> nice dai
[03:26] <lettuce> i have an nvidia 6600
[03:26] <lettuce> and drivers are installed
[03:26] <just-this-time> pls remind me wher do I change/switch language of all the KDE desktop    ?
[03:26] <epimeth> stdin: its exactly where you said
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> system settings > regional settings
[03:26] <BloodyTux> my current card is a ATI 3d Rage Pro...
[03:26] <lettuce> is there a guide for installing beryl directly on kubuntu feisty?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: sudo apt-get install beryl
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all there is to it
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> what is the problem you're having with beryl?
[03:27] <Jucato> lettuce: see the guides in the topic in #ubuntu-effects
[03:27] <lettuce> I installed t but when I run it everything screws up and I can't drag windows and it just a big mess
[03:27] <stdin> dominic_: do this: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466 ; gpg --export -a 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> define "everything screws up"
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> no window decorations?
[03:28] <dominic_> thanks stdin, im gonna try now
[03:28] <dominic_> nope it didn't work
[03:28] <LHoT> hello!
[03:28] <epimeth> stdin: its exactly where you said.... what do I do with it?
[03:29] <LHoT> hey _4str0
[03:29] <stdin> dominic_: what faild?
[03:29] <LHoT> you werent in #beryl
[03:30] <stdin> epimeth: you put the percentage of brightness in to it, eg "echo 50 |sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" would put it at 50%
[03:30] <dominic_> it didnt' resolve the apt-get update problem
[03:30] <ccherrett2> I am trying to connect to my wireless using WEP. with no encryption all is fine but I am struggling with the wep side of things
[03:30] <dominic_> ok, nevermind... but i get this new error
[03:31] <ccherrett2> i have tried using the gui in fiesty
[03:31] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:31] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:31] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:31] <lettuce> it screws up by just not working. It's hard to describe. beryls come on and runs but there's no bare to drage things by and it isn't working properly at all
[03:31] <dominic_> sorry about the paste, hehe
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !it doesn't work
[03:31] <ccherrett2> and it works to connect me as long as I have WEP turned off
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it doesn't work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <ccherrett2> anyone have any pointers for mew?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> saying "it doesn't work" isn't very helpful
[03:31] <ccherrett2> me
[03:31] <LHoT> !nothing
[03:31] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i THINK you're missing a single line in your xorg.conf
[03:32] <lettuce> that't not all i said though...i described it just keep reading
[03:32] <ccherrett2> ubotu: it does not establish a connection
[03:32] <BloodyTux> !wep | ccherrett2
[03:32] <LHoT> ubotu is a bot...
[03:32] <ubotu> ccherrett2: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <BloodyTux> there we go
[03:33] <LHoT> lol
[03:33] <LHoT> hey bt!
[03:33] <LHoT> Im back!
[03:33] <ccherrett2> wow great bot!
[03:33] <LHoT> lol
[03:33] <BloodyTux> takes like 2 minutes to respong...
[03:33] <LHoT> :)
[03:33] <BloodyTux> *respond
[03:33] <ccherrett2> BloodyTux: time for a rewrite
[03:34] <BloodyTux> da
[03:34] <LHoT> hey BloodyTux, my comp freezes whenever I try to log out
[03:34] <BloodyTux> sucks to be you!
[03:34] <LHoT> Kubuntu 7.04 64 bit
[03:34] <BloodyTux> nah i'm jk
[03:34] <LHoT> lol
[03:34] <LHoT> :)
[03:35] <just-this-time> removable are mountable by root only
[03:35] <lettuce> so you said that you have feisty and that if you just run "sudo apt-get install beryl" that it will work with no problem?
[03:35] <LHoT> can you help me?
[03:35] <just-this-time> Iw ant to be mountable automatically
[03:35] <BloodyTux> did you install the kdm theme manager?
[03:35] <LHoT> ...
[03:35] <just-this-time> !removable
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about removable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <LHoT> you lost me
[03:35] <xanatoscraven> actually that should be 'beryl-kubuntu'
[03:35] <BloodyTux> sometimes that screws it all up
[03:35] <LHoT> noob*
[03:35] <BloodyTux> ...
[03:35] <LHoT> lol
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: should
[03:35] <LHoT> Im learning tho
[03:36] <LHoT> lol
[03:36] <LHoT> I am NOT a greedy racoon.
[03:36] <LHoT> >.<
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought that was nanook
[03:36] <LHoT> nah
[03:36] <LHoT> nook
[03:36] <LHoT> Tom Nook
[03:36] <LHoT> :)
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[03:37] <LHoT> and then there Tanooki
[03:37] <LHoT> :)
[03:37] <BloodyTux> ewww gamcube
[03:37] <xanatoscraven> lolz, giant tanuki balls
[03:37] <LHoT> well that was actually a NES refferece
[03:37] <LHoT> ...
[03:37] <LHoT> wow
[03:37] <BloodyTux> he is also in the stupid animal game for GC
[03:37] <LHoT> I suck at typing
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: now give it a shot
[03:38] <BloodyTux> animal crossing thats it
[03:38] <LHoT> so, any hely
[03:38] <LHoT> yep!
[03:38] <BloodyTux> !offtopic|myself
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> tanooki: mario turns into a statue, otherwise acts as the racoon suit
[03:38] <ubotu> myself: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:38] <LHoT> lol
[03:38] <xanatoscraven> heh
[03:38] <epimeth> stdin: I showed you the error I got
[03:38] <BloodyTux> :P
[03:38] <just-this-time> FYI https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html guide is lacking switchiing language info
[03:38] <lettuce> beryl begins to open, the bouncing ruby is under the mouse for along time but beryl never starts
[03:38] <epimeth> stdin: it didn't work the first time, it won't work the second :-)
[03:38] <lettuce> I'll try and re-install beryl
[03:38] <BloodyTux> pie :)
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> no need yet
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> open a terminal
[03:39] <BloodyTux> people who want to talk about pie meet in offtopic
[03:39] <lettuce> ok
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo killall beryl-manager
[03:39] <LHoT> hmmmm.... !rtfm | me
[03:39] <Jucato> !locale | just-this-time
[03:39] <ubotu> just-this-time: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:39] <LHoT> awww
[03:39] <Jucato> just-this-time: how about that one?
[03:39] <LHoT> theres no !rtfm?
[03:39] <stdin> epimeth: run "cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to see the values it accepts
[03:39] <LHoT> that blows
[03:39] <epimeth> stdin: great... 50 and 90 *do* seem to work, but it doesn't change the brightness
[03:39] <lettuce> beryl-manager: no process killed
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> we're going to test this to see what happens, lettuce
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl --replace
[03:39] <epimeth> levels:  100 57 0 14 28 43 57 71 86 100
[03:39] <epimeth> current: 0
[03:40] <epimeth> 50 and 90 worked, 100 doesn't
[03:40] <epimeth> but reguarless, the brightness doesn't change
[03:40] <LHoT> BloodyTux: has _4str0 been around lately?
[03:40] <epimeth> whoa
[03:40] <stdin> epimeth: same here, 100 never works, but brightness dose change for me
[03:40] <epimeth> 86 worked
[03:40] <epimeth> cool
[03:40] <BloodyTux> i dun tink to
[03:40] <epimeth> cheers stdin
[03:40] <BloodyTux> *toe
[03:40] <just-this-time> tyvm jucato
[03:40] <stdin> np :)
[03:40] <LHoT> ???
[03:41] <epimeth> but now how do I get my acpi buttons to work :-)
[03:41] <BloodyTux> haven't seen him since last night
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: anything?
[03:41] <LHoT> okay
[03:41] <BloodyTux> i want lettuce!
[03:41] <BloodyTux> me me me!
[03:41] <lettuce> ok, everything passed and it says "reloading options"
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> got some wobbly windows?
[03:41] <lettuce> noooo!!
[03:41] <BloodyTux> :P'''
[03:41] <xanatoscraven> @.@
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe head of lettuce...
[03:42] <BloodyTux> ewwwww ketchup
[03:42] <lettuce> that's my only head!
[03:42] <BloodyTux> hahahaha
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you poor girl
[03:42] <BloodyTux> you don't even know how bad the sounded in my head
[03:43] <lettuce> the windows are doing the same thing that beryl did before
[03:43] <lettuce> :(
[03:43] <stdin> !msg | dominic_
[03:43] <ubotu> dominic_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:43] <BloodyTux> "that's my only head"!!! HAHAHAHA
[03:43] <nflava> !glib
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> see if you can run beryl-manager from a terminal
[03:43] <stdin> !tar | dominic_
[03:43] <ubotu> dominic_: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:43] <xanatoscraven> shouldn't you be dripping wate--AAAAGH MY HAND WHY DID YOU DO THAT
[03:43] <BloodyTux> ???
[03:44] <dominic_> wow, it like automated bots.... fast and responsive. lmao
[03:44] <BloodyTux>  pie
[03:44] <BloodyTux> cool pie
[03:44] <xanatoscraven> lettuce, do you still not have window borders and whatnot?
[03:44] <dominic_> forget it
[03:44] <stdin> !offtopic | BloodyTux
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> xanatoscraven: that's the issue
[03:44] <ubotu> BloodyTux: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:44] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:44] <BloodyTux> i know i know
[03:44] <lettuce> more borders disapeared
[03:45] <BloodyTux> no one is in that channel though :(
[03:45] <lettuce> and the terminal still says"reloading options
[03:45] <stdin> BloodyTux: only 352 people
[03:45] <nflava> is glib a package i download? i was trying to ./configure a folder with xchat but i get an error about glib
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> go into a terminal and type "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> look for the line Section "Screen"
[03:45] <BloodyTux> no one is talking
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> xanatoscraven: i had him add the add visuals line
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> is the line Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" there at all?
[03:46] <xanatoscraven> oh.. crap, heh
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[03:46] <BloodyTux> btw theres 27 people in offtopic....
[03:46] <stdin> BloodyTux: not the point, -offtopic is for general chat, #kubuntu is for support only
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> next option is set the render mode to copy
[03:46] <BloodyTux> yea
[03:46] <lettuce> i can't get to anything. have to restart. be back in a bit
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> he could have gotten kwin back just as easily :\
[03:46] <xanatoscraven> well, that's the first and last time I bother, lol
[03:46] <intelikey> how old is debian woody ?     cause one or more packages in kubuntu dapper are also in woody,   does that mean there has been no new development in the last 6 years ?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: told you he was around
[03:47] <alias8604> alright, im back, any more suggestions stdin?
[03:47] <nflava> anyone know anything about my Q?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: if you can get beryl-manager launched, i have an idea
[03:47] <soulrider> hey intelikey
[03:47] <lettuce> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf resulted in "failed to open device"
[03:47] <intelikey> soulrider
[03:47] <lettuce> ok, let me see
[03:47] <soulrider> intelikey: thats one thing that bothers me aobut ubuntu, getting an updated package is a biznich
[03:47] <stdin> alias8604: try a reboot (if you haven't already)
[03:48] <alias8604> reboot or relog?
[03:48] <stdin> alias8604: reboot
[03:48] <alias8604> k
[03:48] <lettuce> ok, beryl manager launched
[03:48] <soulrider> intelikey: how did the hoary to feisty upgrade go ?
[03:48] <intelikey> nflava build-essential
[03:48] <lettuce> btw, when i launch it fromt he terminal, i get an error report, do you want to see what it says?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> pastebin it
[03:48] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: damn, you beat me
[03:48] <intelikey> soulrider i aborted before i got started.
[03:48] <soulrider> intelikey: oh
[03:49] <soulrider> intelikey: have you tried any other disrtos?
[03:49] <soulrider> i mean, packages in ubuntu tend to be old
[03:49] <lettuce> how do i pastebin stuff?
[03:49] <soulrider> !paste
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <intelikey> soulrider working on a dsl/woody thing right now
[03:49] <soulrider> intelikey: i see
[03:49] <soulrider> your machine is 686 right ?
[03:49] <lettuce> ok pasted
[03:50] <intelikey> soulrider yes  slack rh mdk      and some not so major distros
[03:50] <soulrider> now give si the link
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> url?
[03:50] <lettuce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18900/
[03:50] <soulrider> intelikey: Arch? im running it now
[03:50] <stdin> !baddevice | lettuce
[03:50] <ubotu> lettuce: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[03:50] <intelikey> no never see arch
[03:50] <soulrider> intelikey: why dont you try it out ?
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, yeah, ignore that
[03:51] <intelikey> soulrider dialup
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: right-click the beryl manager icon and go to advanced beryl options > rendering path > copy
[03:51] <BloodyTux> i'm installing random junk, i need help
[03:51] <soulrider> intelikey: damn! how can you live with dualup?
[03:51] <soulrider> and intelikey the iso is really small actually
[03:51] <soulrider> BloodyTux: lol, what junk
[03:51] <soulrider> ?
[03:51] <intelikey> i not only can live with it.  i can live without it too....
[03:52] <lettuce> ok, done
[03:52] <BloodyTux> the kde-addon, kde-extra, that random junk
[03:52] <soulrider> intelikey: i cant live without internet
[03:52] <BloodyTux> kde-multimedia
[03:52] <soulrider> i mean, i use it a lot
[03:52] <BloodyTux> kde-graphics
[03:52] <clinton> ok, now its telling me it cant mount it
[03:52] <soulrider> i can live without it, its just annoying not to have it
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: now right click and switch the window manager to beryl
[03:52] <lettuce> hey....dude
[03:52] <soulrider> BloodyTux: you know how to use adept right ?
[03:52] <jean-marie> hi
[03:52] <lettuce> it's working
[03:52] <BloodyTux> yea
[03:52] <lettuce> :D
[03:52] <soulrider> BloodyTux: arent the packages there ?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> really now
[03:53] <BloodyTux> thats what i'm using and its taking FOREVER
[03:53] <lettuce> thank you so much for your help
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> glad i could be of service
[03:53] <BloodyTux> 87% for like 5 minutes
[03:53] <alias8604> stdin, now when i try to access it its saying its not mounted
[03:54] <stdin> alias8604: post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to pastebin
[03:54] <ccherrett2> BloodyTux: I went through the trouble shooting and there was nothing in there that helped
[03:54] <stdin> alias8604: l is a lowercase L
[03:54] <BloodyTux> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:54] <BloodyTux> try pie
[03:54] <BloodyTux> or PANAMA CANAL
[03:54] <BloodyTux> sorry, really hyper, need to walk dog
[03:55] <ccherrett2> BloodyTux: this is not my first time setting up WEP but this round is causing me trouble
[03:55] <BloodyTux> like naiolith told me to do... i don't have a dog...
[03:55] <alias8604> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18901/
[03:55] <ccherrett2> anyone have any help?
[03:56] <just-this-time> WEP is a pain I opened wireless without password happy now
[03:56] <ccherrett2> just-this-time: so you run wide open?
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: what exactly's the issue?  won't connect with wep?
[03:56] <just-this-time> well PC has its passwords you know
[03:56] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: yeahm
[03:56] <just-this-time> let neighbours use a little the net
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: are you using knetworkmanager?
[03:57] <alias8604> just-this-time: sooooo, where do you live? =P
[03:57] <ccherrett2> as soon as wep is enabled I cannot get it to connect
[03:57] <stdin> alias8604: is there anything in /media/sda7 now?
[03:57] <just-this-time> haha far from you alias8604
[03:57] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I was using a new one with fiesty
[03:57] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: let me check
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> the default one
[03:57] <ccherrett2> yes
[03:57] <BloodyTux> !windows
[03:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:57] <alias8604> theres stuff in the partition, but its not showing up
[03:57] <BloodyTux> :D
[03:57] <BloodyTux> i love that
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> standard wep (a 10 digit hex key)?
[03:58] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: yes it is knetworkmanager
[03:58] <stdin> alias8604: and what does "mountpoint /media/sda7" show?
[03:58] <alias8604> no such file or directory
[03:58] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I was using  a higher encryption
[03:59] <ccherrett2> like 20 hex
[03:59] <ccherrett2> 128bit
[03:59] <ccherrett2> 26hex
[03:59] <alias8604> sorry, forgot the a, it says its not a mountpoint
[03:59] <BloodyTux> i used 123y3294236597437529834572304hex
[03:59] <BloodyTux> lot ofdecrypting
[03:59] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I am using the right ESSID
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> try using a 10 digit hex as the passphrase
[04:00] <dominic_>  me... 14323465 bit hex only very secure
[04:00] <stdin> alias8604: ok, so try "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/sda7 -o umask=0000"
[04:00] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I will that now
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and (this is weird but) WEP 40/104-bit hex in knetworkmanager
[04:00] <dominic_> and it 5 letter ascii
[04:00] <alias8604> aha, its working now, ty
[04:01] <alias8604> will it auto mount on boot now?
[04:01] <stdin> alias8604: you can add a line to /etc/fstab to make it auto mount
[04:01] <alias8604> alright
[04:01] <stdin> alias8604: like "/dev/sda7 /media/sda7 ntfs defaults,umask=0000 0 0"
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: i shall return shortly, don't go anywhere, i need a smoke
[04:02] <alias8604> should i just use the same syntax as the other ones?
[04:02] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: thanks just trying to connect
[04:02] <stdin> alias8604: yeah
[04:02] <stdin> alias8604: that was just a generic example
[04:02] <BloodyTux> zing process is that no matter what room youre wanting to straighten up, the rules are essentially the same  heres a four-step guide to get started, which also includes 13 strategies to prevent you from procrastinating along the way:
[04:02] <epimeth> GARRRR
[04:02] <BloodyTux> wtf
[04:02] <BloodyTux> sorry
[04:02] <BloodyTux> stupid klipper
[04:03] <BloodyTux> zing process is that no matter what room youre wanting to straighten up, the rules are essentially the same  heres a four-step guide to get started, which also includes 13 strategies to prevent you from procrastinating along the way:
[04:03] <BloodyTux> ARGGHHHHH
[04:03] <BloodyTux> configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:03] <BloodyTux> there we go
[04:03] <BloodyTux> thats my error
[04:04] <alias8604> ty very much stdin, bye, time for dinner
[04:04] <stdin> BloodyTux: install kde-devel, it installs everything you'll need
[04:04] <stdin> alias8604: no problem :)
[04:06] <ubuntu> :D
[04:07] <BloodyTux> :( my sis's internet isn't working with kubuntu 6.10
[04:07] <BloodyTux> she's using a dell laptop and our router isn't bein recognized
[04:07] <nflava> is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[04:07] <BloodyTux> yes
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: any luck?
[04:08] <nflava> hm
[04:08] <BloodyTux> DAI!!!! OMG LONG TIME NO SEE
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been here for the past few hours
[04:08] <ubuntu> LINUX ON LAPTOP RULZ0R!
[04:08] <stdin> !caps
[04:08] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:08] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: no same trouble
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh
[04:08] <LHo1> go away noob
[04:08] <BloodyTux> sush
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> that was about the only idea i had :\
[04:09] <BloodyTux> i am not a noob
[04:09] <ccherrett2> ok thanks for the help
[04:09] <nflava> can i upgrade my ubuntu or do i need to do a fresh install of kubuntu?
[04:09] <LHo1> not you
[04:09] <LHo1> although...
[04:09] <BloodyTux> :) good
[04:09] <LHo1> ^_^
[04:09] <ubuntu> sudo update-manager -d
[04:09] <LHo1> :P
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !dubuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !pubuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !cafebuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafebuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <LHo1> !goobuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about goobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <LHo1> it lies
[04:10] <trpr> abuse the bot more
[04:10] <BloodyTux> :( they don't know aany of them
[04:10] <BloodyTux> i was seeing if it had info on some derivatives
[04:10] <intelikey> hmmmm.  Removing sed ...
[04:10] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing sed (--purge):
[04:10] <trpr> msg it
[04:10] <intelikey>  /var/lib/dpkg/info/sed.prerm: line 9:  2555 Segmentation fault      install-info --quiet --remove sed
[04:10] <LHo1> Goobuntu it a modified Ubuntu made by Google.
[04:10] <LHo1> :)
[04:10] <ubuntu> "] 
[04:10] <ubuntu> :] 
[04:11] <LHo1> so its awesome in other words
[04:11] <BloodyTux> cool
[04:11] <intelikey> i guess i'll have to rm the prerm script.
[04:11] <LHo1> but they dont want to release it to the public for some reason
[04:11] <LHo1> :(
[04:12] <BloodyTux> :(
[04:12] <LHo1> wtf?
[04:12] <Jucato> it's not technically a "distribution", so they don't have to release anything
[04:12] <LHo1> it says my name is LHo1...
[04:12] <LHo1> what happened
[04:12] <LHo1> :(
[04:13] <LHoT> ...
[04:13] <LHoT> yay!
[04:13] <LHoT> :)
[04:15] <surgy> hi
[04:16] <jooshi> hi, I am using kubuntu feisty and for some reason firefox and konqueror both crash
[04:17] <hakaisou> !gnash
[04:17] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:17] <hakaisou> !flash64
[04:17] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:17] <hakaisou> !flash
[04:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:18] <mcgrady> hello
[04:21] <hakaisou> help!
[04:21] <hakaisou> I've lost all audio!
[04:21] <Dezine> Oi, friggin Windows, I turned it off last night and haven't used my pc.. turn it on and the windows boot loader is magically gone.. dumb thing.. I  just installed kubuntu over it, the hell with it
[04:21] <LHoT> good
[04:22] <LHoT> :)
[04:22] <LHoT> :P
[04:22] <Dezine> like seriously, the only way to fix it is to install it all over again. I tried just fixing the mbr, nope, dumb thing
[04:22] <hakaisou> yea, only way to get it back would be a full reinstall
[04:22] <Dezine> Gonna have to learn GIMP or get used to photoshop 7 lol
[04:23] <hakaisou> M$ is a pain like that
[04:23] <raylu> er...
[04:23] <raylu> which bootloader do you want?
[04:23] <raylu> you shouldn't have to reinstall an entire OS for the bootloader
[04:23] <Dezine> no
[04:23] <Dezine> like
[04:23] <Dezine> er
[04:23] <Dezine> It's hard to explain
[04:24] <raylu> lol, I see that
[04:24] <Dezine> it's the boot loader for Windows but like, doing fixmbr doesn't work.
[04:24] <raylu> o.0
[04:24] <dominic_> i got to play avi on MKplayer. but the sound is so freaking low..... my sound runs fine in youtube and playing mp3 music.... any suggestion?
[04:24] <raylu> what's wrong with grub?
[04:25] <hakaisou> Grub redirects to the windows bootloader IIR correctly
[04:25] <Dezine> nuthin, I didn't have linux on here at the time
[04:25] <Jucato> ntldr
[04:25] <Dezine> plus windows keeps screwing up
[04:25] <hakaisou> Hi jucato
[04:25] <Jucato> hello hakai
[04:25] <Jucato> sou
[04:25] <hakaisou> long time no see
[04:25] <Jucato> (sorry bout that :P)
[04:25] <Dezine> For some reason it wouldn't show up in grub and I spent forever trying to
[04:25] <hakaisou> no it was my fault
[04:26] <hakaisou> Kubuntu went all screwy, and i said screw it for a while
[04:26] <dominic_> anyone can help me?
[04:26] <hakaisou> But Windows went screwy too, So I came back.  I got WoW to work, so I doubt that i'm going back to M$oft
[04:26] <raylu> dominic_, try digging through the MKplayer settings :P
[04:26] <Dezine> To be truthful I plan on getting a mac for my design work, leave linux on my pc and get a macbook
[04:27] <Dezine> Windows seems to break on me all the time
[04:28] <hakaisou> *shrug*
[04:28] <Dezine> restart, nothing crazy going on and I can't boot and I'm starting at a blue screen and a useless error message
[04:28] <Dezine> staring*
[04:29] <hakaisou> Hilariously enough, every time that I would reboot, Windows would say that it has recovered from a serious error.
[04:29] <Dezine> lol
[04:29] <Dezine> Well, I would look up the error message and find about ten different causes, most seem like guesses
[04:30] <Dezine> I want to get Photoshop CS on here, couldn't get it to work last time though
[04:32] <dominic_> holy shit... i did what i told you.. changed the audio driver output. restart it and FUCK my laptop was so Freaking loud... scared the shitty out of me... thanks raylu
[04:32] <Dezine> nice
[04:33] <dominic_> thats not nice dezine
[04:33] <Dezine> o, well, it is cuz it's fixed
[04:33] <dominic_> ok got problem again now.... when i play techpara.avi.... the video and audio are off sync...
[04:34] <dominic_> how do i fix that now. shit.
[04:35] <ejupin> dominic_:how bout we watch the lanuage.. i know youre excited, but... :)
[04:35] <dominic_> lol
[04:35] <dominic_> fine sorry
[04:35] <ejupin> dominic_:ty
[04:35] <intelikey> if i use an app built for a different libc subversion will it puke ?
[04:35] <Dezine> Hm, doesn't Linux have about as much market share as OS X? Adobe needs to start sporting some linux aps.
[04:37] <intelikey> i've got sed built for   libc-2.3.2.so   but  libc-2.3.6.so  is in use   what are the chances that sed will hose things ?
[04:40] <weswh-> i got a new monitor today...to run dual screen with my existing 17"...and I have them pretty decently matched color wise. but the one thing that is really amazing me - the new monitor, shows the KDE gears etc. in the background of the konquerer windows. but when I drag the window to the old screen, I can't see those gears AT ALL. I have not been able to find any other kind of color ref thing that the original monitor "doesn't see" or an
[04:40] <weswh-> and the shade of gray that it is...I can see in the color chart fine
[04:40] <intelikey> ok it's looking more and more like i may get this debian woody live CD to do what i want it too.   using some ubuntu dapper apps in it...   so it's not debian nor ubuntu it's now intelikeyd
[04:40] <epimeth> !paste
[04:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <weswh-> I even took a screen shot, to see if it was some weird KDE setting - but even from the image...I can only see the gears on one screen
[04:41] <intelikey> epimeth paste at a single post ?    come on....
[04:41] <andrewt> hi
[04:41] <epimeth> intelikey: I meant to !paste > epimeth but hit enter by accident :-)
[04:41] <epimeth> I forgot the url
[04:41] <epimeth> :-p
[04:42] <intelikey> oh.   ok.  thought you did that in response to weswh-
[04:42] <intelikey> your bad is my bad.
[04:46] <vecina> Help! I cant change my refresh and 60 is killing my eyes :(
[04:47] <intelikey> !refresh
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <intelikey> !res
[04:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:48] <vecina> :/
[04:50] <dominic_> ok i get the same problem with other media player.... there like 1.5 delay playing avi videos
[04:56] <trpr> how do i change the wallpaper for each virtual desktop? i've been told i should be able to do it, but can't figure out where.
[04:56] <intelikey> right click the desktop
[04:58] <trpr> doh. he is gone. i hope he was going to tell me something useful. changing the wallpaper from Configure Desktop changes all of the desktops.. of course berl is running and kde only reports a single virtual desktop despite the pager showing 4... so i was figuring maybe it was berl specific?
[04:59] <Jucato> trpr: yes. it's beryl not working well with kde's virtual desktops
[04:59] <Link_Hero_of_Tim> crap, one letter to long
[04:59] <Link_Hero_of_Tim> ...
[05:01] <LHoT> I need help with Beryl.
[05:01] <redfive> LHoT, im running beryl
[05:01] <redfive> what do you need?
[05:02] <LHoT> hang on
[05:02] <LHoT> Ive had some help, let me organize...
[05:04] <LHoT> I'm running Kubuntu 7.04, with an ATI, I got a lot of help yesterday, and set up an "XGL" desktop session, and Im getting scrambled video,
[05:04] <LHoT> .*
[05:04] <eakbas> hi, my fresh feisty installed machine does fsck at every boot-up. why?
[05:04] <redfive> well, thats a bug i see on nvidia some times
[05:04] <eakbas> i had no problems with dapper and edgy on the same machin
[05:04] <redfive> oh really
[05:05] <redfive> did you tru AIGLX?
[05:05] <LHoT> me?
[05:05] <pputtabakula> Hi everybody..I installed recently (first time) Kubuntu 7.04..I have IBM thinkpad and I have connected an LG LCD (20LS7D model)
[05:05] <redfive> yes
[05:05] <LHoT> no.
[05:05] <redfive> you can do it on the fly
[05:06] <redfive> you have the libs installed for it?
[05:06] <LHoT> im a total noob to linux, so make it simple
[05:06] <pputtabakula> I would like to get the display on this LCD as secondary display, how can I do that as I see above model not being listed on LG
[05:06] <ko12upt> uplink?
[05:06] <redfive> ok, if you have beryl running, right click the beryl icon in systray
[05:06] <draik> What are some good games that I can get from my repos for Ubuntu 6.10
[05:06] <LHoT> one sec
[05:07] <trpr> frozen-bubble!
[05:07] <ko12upt> tremulous
[05:07] <LHoT> okay
[05:07] <LHoT> right click and then
[05:08] <ko12upt> uplink here
[05:08] <eakbas> why does feisty do disk check (fsck) at every boot-up?
[05:08] <draik> Thank you trpr and ko12upt
[05:08] <redfive> LHoT, this may messup your X session (be prepared to do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE) then go down to "advanced beryl options" and then "rendering platform" and slect AIGXL
[05:08] <ko12upt> yep
[05:09] <LHoT> k
[05:09] <redfive> if you have the libs installed it should reload beryl
[05:09] <LHoT> k
[05:09] <LHoT> that it?
[05:09] <redfive> ya
[05:10] <LHoT> now log out then in in the XGL?
[05:10] <redfive> then try opening fivverent programs, or maby restart your box, beryl is bad about that
[05:10] <LHoT> k
[05:10] <LHoT> brb
[05:10] <redfive> just leave it
[05:10] <redfive> k
[05:16] <ko12upt> if anyone asks for me have them do a who is command and that should help them out
[05:16] <ko12upt> thanks
[05:17] <draik> whois ko12upt
[05:20] <billytwowilly> I usually use akgregator to read rss feeds, but it's become more convenient to have the rss feeds I read organized on a webpage, can anyone recommend a web based rss reader?
[05:21] <Jucato> billytwowilly: Google Reader?
[05:21] <Sleepy_Coder> Anyone else see a trend coming along?  Eventually all programs will be on someone else's computer and we'll all be opening our browsers to check the time or something.  last.fm....rss.... :p
[05:21] <LHoT> back
[05:22] <LHoT> redfive: you here?
[05:22] <billytwowilly> Jucato: nifty. Apparently google makes everything I need;)
[05:22] <Jucato> :)
[05:22] <draik> Jucato: HELLO
[05:23] <draik> Sorry, I forgot about the yelling
[05:23] <Jucato> hehe hi draik :)
[05:26] <draik> billytwowilly: Do you like Google Maps?
[05:26] <billytwowilly> draik: it's decent. I use it mostly because mapquest sucks. I really like google earth
[05:26] <draik> I love google earth.
[05:26] <billytwowilly> awesome. I'm using google reader for under 2 minutes and I already found a bug.
[05:27] <billytwowilly> hint hint, add the atom feed for your email and see what happens;)
[05:27] <draik> Do a google maps search for directions from "New York, New York" to "Paris, France"
[05:27] <DarkED> i'm having a problem with kdm
[05:27] <DarkED> i was running twinview through nVidia's config
[05:27] <draik> Read direction number 23
[05:27] <DarkED> now, i want to go back to single mon
[05:27] <maycolito> good night room
[05:28] <maycolito> I'm having some issues
[05:28] <DarkED> so i disconnected my second screen and set the config back to single screen
[05:28] <DarkED> but when I boot, kdm is really stretched
[05:28] <maycolito> when I turn off my computer the screen stays black but it will not power off.
[05:28] <maycolito> I can still switch between terminals but not do anything on them
[05:28] <maycolito> or login
[05:28] <DarkED> maycolito: try closing all open apps including beryl before going down for reboot
[05:29] <maycolito> I have
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: Beryl especially tends to make my system do that
[05:29] <maycolito> I have even used the shutdown -h -t 0
[05:29] <maycolito> how could i tell whether Beryl is open or not?
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: hmm... your system is obviously hanging on something... checked any logs?
[05:29] <maycolito> I don't know how to check them but I'd be hapy to
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: well generally you want to make KDM the display manager in beryl's rightclick config...
[05:30] <DarkED> maycolito: and sorry but I don't know which logs you should check :)
[05:30] <maycolito> alright
[05:30] <maycolito> I will check
[05:30] <LHo1> hello again
[05:31] <tony_> hey
[05:31] <tinyx> how do i play DVDs?
[05:31] <[_uplink_] > what you have ?
[05:31] <[_uplink_] > OS
[05:31] <redfive> hi
[05:32] <LHoT> put them in a DVD player
[05:32] <redfive> im here
[05:32] <LHoT> :P
[05:32] <LHoT> okay
[05:32] <[_uplink_] > lol.
[05:32] <jtt> draik, i like the directions from NY to Paris FR  neet!!
[05:32] <LHoT> ummm... it didnt work
[05:32] <hakaisou> damnit...
[05:32] <hakaisou> i need help with my sound.
[05:32] <redfive> same thing?
[05:32] <tinyx> Let me rephrase that so that I don't get a sarcastic response..
[05:32] <draik> jtt: #23
[05:32] <tinyx> How do I play a DVD using Kubuntu
[05:32] <LHoT> and now, everytime I start beryl, it freezes...
[05:32] <jtt> draik, yeah
[05:32] <billytwowilly> anyone have google reader setup and have a gmail account? Wanna try something out and confirm for me I found a bug in google reader?
[05:32] <Gamic> put the dvd in, start kaffeine, press play
[05:33] <tinyx> It gives me an error
[05:33] <Gamic> What error?
[05:33] <LHoT> tinyx: get better codecs
[05:33] <tinyx> It says the source can't be read
[05:33] <Gamic> is anything else reading the dvd drive at the time?
[05:33] <LHoT> tinyx: get automatix
[05:34] <tinyx> from where?
[05:34] <redfive> LHoT, ok, well just go back to the same place and clock XGL
[05:34] <redfive> *clock
[05:34] <LHoT> tinyx: http://www.getautomatix.com its a simple install, instructions in the wiki
[05:34] <redfive> *click
[05:35] <LHoT> I cant start beryl
[05:35] <[_uplink_] > O_O
[05:35] <LHoT> itll freeze my system
[05:35] <maycolito> DarkED: I was looking for beryl
[05:35] <maycolito> and I don't seem to have it
[05:35] <redfive> ok
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> !automatix
[05:35] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <redfive> open superusermode konqueror
[05:36] <LHoT> tinyx: let me know when its installed
[05:36] <maycolito> DarkED: the only place I could find it was on /usr/share/app-install/desktop
[05:37] <redfive> LHoT, http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:hmmgmVg3vz4J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-364264.html+reset+beryl+settings&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[05:37] <LHoT> I've installed lots of software with Automatix, I've never gotten a single error message
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, but many people have, and very often they are a pain to fix
[05:38] <Gamic> !WorksForMe|LHoT
[05:38] <ubotu> LHoT: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:38] <tinyx> Forget it.. It's late, I'm tired..
[05:39] <tinyx> As a great as Ubuntu is... I hate that it takes a 20 step process just to do the most simplest taks.
[05:39] <hakaisou> I hate to be a bother, but can someone help me fix my sound?
[05:39] <tinyx> tasks*
[05:40] <Perrako> Ergh... I have a bit of a problem with default event creation... can anyone give me a hand?
[05:40] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: Ive actually never heard anyone complain about it
[05:40] <crimsun> hakaisou: what's the matter?
[05:40] <Gamic> tinyx: usually it doesn't. however dvd encryption is not governed by the same freedoms as other free software
[05:40] <hakaisou> it's not broadcasting as far as i can tell.
[05:40] <hakaisou> stuff is working, but no sound comes out.
[05:40] <LHoT> Gamic: and thats why god invented reverse engineering >_>
[05:40] <LHoT> lol
[05:40] <tinyx> I know, but maybe if Microshit wasn't so uptight and money hungry... they could work together with open source projects to better their products
[05:40] <crimsun> hakaisou: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> LHoT,  09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0  :P
[05:41] <LHoT> :P
[05:41] <tinyx> instead of cough*stealing*cough
[05:42] <Perrako> No one can help? Dang.
[05:42] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: have you actually tried automatix?
[05:42] <icujc> good evening.. Anyone experiencing issues with openoffice not opening word dos?  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it twice now and same issue openoffice crashes...
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, actaully, no, i prefer to know exactly what and how its being installed on my system
[05:43] <lettuce> hello
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, ive just heard of a lot of problems with it
[05:44] <LHoT> Then don't try to discourage others from trying it untill you use it.
[05:44] <LHoT> Alright, but again...
[05:44] <LHoT> don't try to discourage others from trying it untill you use it
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, i just don't want people who don't know what they're getting into borking their systems
[05:44] <lettuce> I got beryl to work, but it's very laggy. My machine is plenty powerful enough to handle it though. Is there anything I can do?
[05:45] <LHoT> kill it with fire...
[05:45] <LHoT> [/7chan] 
[05:45] <LHoT> lol
[05:45] <LHoT> :)
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> actually, i may try it on the lappy just to see what its all about
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> nothing vital on there...
[05:46] <LHoT> :)
[05:46] <LHoT> give it a shot and report back.
[05:49] <raylu> lettuce, try the wiki about beryl
[05:50] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: When installing it, install it in Gnome. I couldn't get it to install right in KDE, but everything works fine on my machine.
[05:50] <lettuce> k
[05:50] <lettuce> also, what's the difference between compiz and beryl?
[05:52] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: or do it manually, which ever you preffer.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, the lappy's running xubuntu
[05:54] <LHoT> then Id recomend manually
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, its already installed.
[05:55] <LHoT> oh
[05:55] <LHoT> okay
[05:55] <lettuce> *doesn't liek gnome either
[05:55] <LHoT> lol
[05:55] <lettuce> lol
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> testing it now...
[05:56] <lettuce> why do they even call it gnome? what does a gui have to do with mythical nature-loving creatures
[05:56] <TwilightPrincess> damnit, that name is too long
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !offttopic
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offttopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> ok, it seems to work ok for regular apps...
[05:57] <dsmith_> Read something interesting today. Linus T., the creator of Linux, stated that ppl should use KDE instead of Gnome desktop.
[05:57] <LHoT> Automatix is how I got flash working, I'm running a 64 bit
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> hmmm....\
[05:57] <LHoT> I already do
[05:57] <redfive> im running amd64
[05:57] <LHoT> :|
[05:57] <LHoT> same same
[05:57] <redfive> feisty is good
[05:58] <LHoT> yep
[05:58] <redfive> LHoT, get flash and java to work?
[05:58] <dsmith_> lettuce: Ubuntu should adopt the preying mantis as a mascot..
[05:58] <dsmith_> :)
[05:59] <LHoT> yeah
[05:59] <LHoT> with automatix
[05:59] <jtt> anyone know a good URL that will test most areas of your java installation?
[05:59] <blaker2> i think kubuntu is ugly. -_-
[06:00] <blaker2> i will take xubuntu or ubuntu first
[06:00] <blaker2> heck, ill take edubuntu first
[06:00] <LHoT> I think Xubuntu is ugly
[06:00] <LHoT> but its fast
[06:00] <LHoT> like...
[06:00] <LHoT> OMG that is t3h u83r f4s7
[06:00] <LHoT> lol
[06:00] <dsmith_> kubuntu is *NOT* ugly...lol.
[06:01] <dsmith_> xubuntu has its place though
[06:01] <dsmith_> so does gnome
[06:01] <blaker2> ummm something about kubuntu it just doesnt look good
[06:01] <blckcts> guys, do u know how to use a .cpp file? its a fix for a plugin i compiled earlier.
[06:01] <dsmith_> every version looks almost the same anyway
[06:02] <dsmith_> i can make gnome look like kde or vice versa
[06:02] <LHoT> yeau
[06:02] <LHoT> yeah*
[06:02] <LHoT> its smooth and curvy...
[06:02] <LHoT> lol
[06:02] <blaker2> kde is shit
[06:02] <blaker2> especially kde apps
[06:02] <blaker2> like kopete
[06:02] <blaker2> lol
[06:02] <LHoT> redfive: if you want to get Java and flash working, let me know
[06:03] <blaker2> how many of you use beryl?
[06:03] <dsmith_> <---
[06:03] <blaker2> press 123 if you use beryl
[06:03] <LHoT> blaker2: please stop flaming KDE.
[06:03] <blaker2> is beryl still beta?
[06:04] <blaker2> I NEVER FLAMED IN MY LIFE I RESENT THE ACCUSATIONS
[06:04] <blaker2> YOU ARE RACIST SIR
[06:04] <LHoT> (10:59:47 PM) blaker2: i think kubuntu is ugly. -_-
[06:04] <uplink> ???
[06:04] <dsmith_> o.O
[06:04] <blaker2> oh lol
[06:04] <blaker2> thats not flaming
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:32 PM) blaker2: kde is shit
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: especially kde apps
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: like kopete
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: lol
[06:04] <blaker2> i thought flaming was like insulting people
[06:04] <LHoT> that is
[06:04] <redfive> LHoT; how do you do it?
[06:04] <blaker2> are u a kde dev?
[06:05] <redfive> kubuntu is ugly?
[06:05] <redfive> then change it!
[06:05] <LHoT> no
[06:05] <LHoT> but I use KDE
[06:05] <uplink> -.-"
[06:05] <redfive> wany to see a screen of my desktop?
[06:05] <uplink> KDE = Kubuntu ?
[06:05] <LHoT> redfive: do you have automatix on your system?
[06:05] <redfive> no can i install it?
[06:06] <LHoT> yes
[06:06] <dsmith_> of course you can install it
[06:06] <blaker2> hmm, i just hit some idiot off efnet with my botnet
[06:06] <blaker2> lol
[06:06] <LHoT> what *ubuntu do you use
[06:06] <LHoT> ?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, ok, so far it works...but i see where it could cause problems for folks
[06:06] <blaker2> xubuntu 7.04 x65
[06:06] <blaker2> the best one
[06:06] <LHoT> not you
[06:06] <LHoT> redfive
[06:06] <LHoT> lol
[06:07] <blaker2> dude im high
[06:07] <LHoT> ...
[06:07] <blaker2> calm down
[06:07] <blaker2> simmer down
[06:07] <lettuce> chillin
[06:07] <LHoT> you must be thinking theres a 65 bit architecture
[06:07] <LHoT> lol
[06:07] <LHoT> :-D
[06:07] <blaker2> a pothead and a ddos botnet do not mix well :-\
[06:07] <redfive> i use kubuntu, feisty 7.04
[06:07] <redfive> with updates
[06:07] <LHoT> k
[06:07] <blaker2> lots of people without access to the internet just for saying 'hi' on irc
[06:07] <blaker2> lol
[06:08] <lettuce> dude beryl is pissing me off, does anyone else have a good system, yet incredibly laggy when running beryl?
[06:08] <redfive> pothead?
[06:08] <blaker2> mine is good when running beryl and when not running it
[06:08] <LHoT> redfive: 64 bit?
[06:08] <blaker2> hmmm
[06:08] <redfive> thers times when beryl will get that way, i close windows and it start working well again
[06:08] <blaker2> like what is lagging?
[06:08] <redfive> yes
[06:08] <redfive> amd64
[06:08] <LHoT> k
[06:08] <dsmith_> lettuce: sometimes, but I made some changes and it runs smooth now
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> brb
[06:08] <redfive> i get it on large windows, sometimes on the network
[06:09] <lettuce> what changes! share your ways with me!
[06:09] <LHoT> redfive: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix2_on_.28K.2CX.29Ubuntu_7.04_i386.2CAMD64_.28Feisty.29
[06:09] <LHoT> let me know when its installed
[06:09] <redfive> beryl seems to perfoems equal your GPU, if you have agood one then you can do alot
[06:09] <lettuce> Once beryl is stable and more official, that will be an awesome day
[06:09] <blaker2> is the 7300 good enough?
[06:10] <blaker2> it seems to run ok but does it slow down after a bit?
[06:10] <LHoT> I have a radeon, and beryl haet radeon
[06:10] <LHoT> :(
[06:10] <lettuce> i have an nvidia 6600 card
[06:10] <blaker2> how does it run on that lettuce
[06:10] <blaker2> cuz mine is 7300, they're about equal i think
[06:10] <Midspeed> Does anybody know of any good graphic programs for creating something like a logo, or for making a banner with nifty fonts and effects?
[06:10] <blaker2> gimp
[06:10] <LHoT> GIMP
[06:10] <LHoT> :)
[06:11] <blaker2> but i would just dual boot into windows and use photoshop
[06:11] <blaker2> sorry :-\
[06:11] <blaker2> no good linux alternative to photoshop i have to say
[06:11] <brian_> photoshop or GIMP
[06:11] <LHoT> I would use crossover and use photoshop
[06:11] <brian_> Gimp ain't bad instead of PS
[06:11] <lettuce> well it runs like sh*t under kubuntu, but I've installed sabayon on this machine before and it worked beautifully
[06:11] <blaker2> whats crossover? is it better than wine?
[06:11] <LHoT> no reason to support a monopoly
[06:11] <LHoT> yeah
[06:11] <LHoT> I installed it with...
[06:11] <lettuce> gimp is supposed to be very good
[06:12] <LHoT> someone guess
[06:12] <Midspeed> thank you everybody
[06:12] <lettuce> I haven't used it very much but a friend told me it has almost all the features PS has
[06:12] <brian_> I just installed VMware Server (free software) and it runs a really nice virtual machine.  You have to have your own Windows to install on it, but it's great
[06:12] <Midspeed> ok
[06:12] <blaker2> no u dont brian_
[06:12] <lettuce> the free version does that?
[06:12] <blaker2> u just download a cracked windows vmware image
[06:13] <blaker2> they're on irc and torrent
[06:13] <brian_> no I don't what?
[06:13] <lettuce> well that's what I tried to do
[06:13] <brian_> oh, ok
[06:13] <LHoT> redfive: is it installed?
[06:13] <blaker2> thats what i use
[06:13] <brian_> GIMP can be installed in kubuntu through the add/remove programs
[06:13] <lettuce> once it got to the .pl i said screw it and dual botted the old fashioned way
[06:14] <dsmith_> lettuce: I have a lowly 64mb Nvidia Go FX5200 and proprietary drivers
[06:14] <blaker2> lol all of u are n00bs!
[06:14] <lettuce> shut up hamper
[06:14] <blaker2> i bet you're all jewish
[06:14] <blaker2> are you?!
[06:14] <LHoT> blaker2: your starting to get on my nerves
[06:14] <brian_> gimp was running fine for me, but it's def not PS
[06:14] <dsmith_> I RESENT THE ACCUSATIONS
[06:15] <blaker2> lol dsmith
[06:15] <lettuce> lol
[06:15] <brian_> no, not jewish.  german/english mutt dog
[06:15] <Midspeed> i got a nvidia 512mb ddr2!!!
[06:15] <blaker2> good
[06:15] <LHoT> atheist here
[06:15] <LHoT> :)
[06:15] <blaker2> jews have large noses
[06:15] <Midspeed> sorry i just had to say it
[06:15] <blaker2> so they can sniff for the smell of cash
[06:15] <lettuce> I'm gonna get a card from Nvidia's 8000 series one of these days
[06:15] <blaker2> me too
[06:16] <blaker2> is 8600 out yet?
[06:16] <lettuce> and a god damn quad core
[06:16] <lettuce> I'm tired of lag
[06:16] <LHoT> theres an octocore
[06:16] <dsmith_> wow
[06:16] <LHoT> but dont get it
[06:16] <Midspeed> :D although with kubuntu i have no idea what im gonna use it for!
[06:16] <LHoT> its ppc
[06:16] <brian_> I'm def a noob.  I just installed linux on my laptop to see if I can get all my crap to run smoothly before putting it on the big machine
[06:16] <blaker2> wow
[06:16] <blaker2> how come the 8500gt is only 100 bucks?
[06:16] <blaker2> that sounds so cheap
[06:16] <Midspeed> i know
[06:17] <blaker2> i just payed 50 for a 7300 a month ago
[06:17] <Midspeed> its about that ddr3, ddr2 and plain dd2
[06:17] <Midspeed> sorry plain ddr
[06:17] <blaker2> when i built this machine
[06:17] <LHoT> i need a duo core for my laptop
[06:17] <Midspeed> i paid 130 bucks for mine and its 512mb ddr2
[06:17] <lettuce> octcore? really? I knew that you could have to quads but there's seriously a single proccessor?
[06:17] <LHoT> yeah
[06:18] <lettuce> day-um
[06:18] <LHoT> its called the cell
[06:18] <LHoT> you know
[06:18] <dsmith_> I didn't know
[06:18] <lettuce> dude intel's quads are down to like $600 now
[06:18] <LHoT> the thing in that POS called PS3
[06:18] <blaker2> i just tried to DDoS somebody but they wont go
[06:18] <blaker2> im so high
[06:18] <blaker2> how come some nicks in xchat are dim?
[06:18] <LHoT> does AMD have any quads?
[06:18] <lettuce> ps3 is the biggest fucking waste of money
[06:18] <LHoT> I know
[06:19] <LHoT> :)
[06:19] <blaker2> linux is a waste of money
[06:19] <blaker2> and its fre
[06:19] <lettuce> all consoles are
[06:19] <blaker2> FREE
[06:19] <blaker2> LOLOL
[06:19] <blaker2> OH SKEET SKEET SKEET, GOTEM!
[06:19] <blaker2> why do jews always have names that revolve around money
[06:19] <brian_> I thought they stopped selling the PS3
[06:19] <blaker2> silverman
[06:19] <blaker2> goldstein
[06:20] <lettuce> http://spskeet.ytmnd.com/
[06:20] <blaker2> and a ton more i forgot cuz im high
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[06:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:20] <blaker2> copperman
[06:20] <blaker2> !offtopic
[06:20] <brian_> why are you named after an 80's yuppie blake?
[06:20] <lettuce> !skeet
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skeet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <lettuce> lmao
[06:20] <hakaisou> shut up blaker
[06:20] <blaker2> !linux
[06:20] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:20] <LHoT> does AMD have any quads?
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hey there!
[06:21] <lettuce> they are comming out with them soon
[06:21] <blaker2> !nigger
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <LHoT> :)
[06:21] <LHoT> lol
[06:21] <brian_> wtf?
[06:21] <lettuce> that's why intel lowered the price of their quads dramatically
[06:21] <hakaisou> ban blake
[06:21] <LHoT> !ubotu
[06:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:21] <blaker2> what 4
[06:21] <LHoT> lol
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !ops
[06:21] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[06:21] <blaker2> !ops
[06:21] <nixternal> yo
[06:21] <LHoT> !spaceballs
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spaceballs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <blaker2> !matrix
[06:21] <LHoT> !melbrooks
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about melbrooks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <LHoT> !lol
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> what'd i miss?
[06:22] <brian_> thank you
[06:22] <LHoT> !offtopic
[06:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:22] <lettuce> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 just look at that price
[06:22] <nixternal> LHoT: pleast stop
[06:22] <lettuce> they used to be $1000
[06:22] <LHoT> I did
[06:22] <dsmith_> thank you, annoying lil bugger he was
[06:22] <hakaisou> how do I change my default sound card in ALSA?
[06:23] <crimsun> hakaisou: asoundconf set-default-card
[06:23] <crimsun> hakaisou: use ``asoundconf list'' first
[06:23] <LHoT> is it 64 bit?
[06:24] <dsmith_> free info,  http://www.beginlinux.org/
[06:26] <lettuce> i need to mount my other partitions, what do i do?
[06:27] <hakaisou> aggh!  All I'm getting is static
[06:27] <hakaisou> wait...
[06:27] <hakaisou> id10t error
[06:28] <hakaisou> there we go.  thanks for the help
[06:33] <AASR-NMJ-32> good evening
[06:33] <LHoT> damn
[06:34] <LHoT> 2 GB (ddr2) ram for $99
[06:34] <LHoT> 1 GB on 2 chips
[06:35] <Alonea> Does Ark put back together split .rar files?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> evening AASR-NMJ-32
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: please stay on topic
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> lettuce: look for the command mount
[06:36] <LHoT> oh yeah
[06:36] <LHoT> sorry
[06:37] <rigoberto> HOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[06:41] <Defdef> Hello, I am new to linux, and just finished a KDE installation. I have downloaded the appropriate files for Opera and am now trying to install it. Can someone walk me through this?
[06:41] <Alonea> ummm...I guess ark doesn't...anyone know how to extract one of those split up rar files or get winrar in linux? (when I tried in ark, said something about a -CRC failed)
[06:42] <Defdef> I learn fast I promise   =)
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Defdef: opera is available in the commercial repository (it is free though)
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !opera
[06:42] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:43] <UltraBread> does kubuntu comes with tetris
[06:44] <crazy_bus> not by default but you can install ksirtet from kdegames
[06:44] <Jucato> lol so that's what ksirtet is!!
[06:45] <crazy_bus> on windows Truecrypt is really good and easy to use.  The program is also on linux but unfortunatly the deb they provide doesn't match my kernal.  I don't really want to download 50mbs of files in order to compile it so I was wondering if there were any other good linux encryption programs.
[06:47] <eams> ubotu epson cx3700
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epson cx3700 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Defdef> You know I am still unable to get this opera installation figured out...The link to the ubuntu page didnt help at all
[06:48] <Defdef> i have the files downloaded, and i went to add remove programs, but it is not listed there
[06:48] <Defdef> this should be simple, no?
[06:49] <eams> Somebody knows what can I do to install my epson stylus cx3700 in feisty???
[06:50] <Jucato> Defdef: if you downloaded a .deb file, then it should be as simple as Right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[06:50] <crimsun> Defdef: do you have the edgy-commercial repo enabled?
[06:50] <crimsun> Version: 9.20-20070409.6ubuntu2
[06:50] <Jucato> or that one ^^^^^ :)
[06:50] <intelikey> !printer | eams
[06:50] <ubotu> eams: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:50] <crimsun> Defdef: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[06:50] <Defdef> oh WOW crimsum, you are right, that is SMOOTH
[06:50] <Defdef> thank you!
[06:51] <eams> intelikey, bash: !printer: event not found
[06:51] <intelikey> :)
[06:55] <Alonea> ok, I am not very familiar with archive files, but I am trying to put this rar file back together and I am getting a CRC failed. What does that mean?
[06:56] <intelikey> Alonea reverse order ?
[06:56] <hakaisou> stupid question:  How can i tell what version of KDE I have?
[06:57] <fulat2k> seems like one of your multi-file rar archive is corrupted.  try doing a unrar t <archive name> to test the files
[06:57] <Alonea> intelikey: reverse order? what do you mean? there is the main .rar file and then I think its .r01, and so on till .r35
[06:57] <Jucato> hakaisou: Help menu -> About KDE
[06:58] <Alonea> fulat2k: ok, will try that.
[06:59] <hakaisou> thanks jucato
[06:59] <intelikey> failing the CRC means the check sum and the file don't match.   i.e.  file corruption or/ file parts in wrong order
[07:00] <Alonea> intelikey: ah. ok. well, when this test thing finishes I will tell you what it says
[07:00] <AbortD> !envy
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <AbortD> how do i find that program?
[07:00] <Alonea> ok, the crc thing is showing on the number 10 file
[07:01] <Alonea> AbortD: Google it. gimmie a sec and i will get you the link
[07:01] <intelikey> then that part of the file is corrupt.  unless you have a backup that's probably a disaster already made.
[07:02] <UltraBread> how do i watch pron on kubuntu
[07:02] <Alonea> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:02] <Alonea> intelikey: its a download that just finished.
[07:02] <fulat2k> Alonea: i get that sometimes when copying stuff to my external hard disk.  already happened 3 times
[07:02] <vow20> go to pornotube
[07:02] <intelikey> Alonea then get that section again.
[07:02] <AbortD> well this sucks since envy doesnt work with feisty.....
[07:03] <AbortD> looks like im screwed
[07:03] <Alonea> AbortD: what do you mean it does not work with Fiesty?
[07:03] <Jucato> hm... have you tried doing it the normal way?
[07:03] <AbortD> thats what this forum says
[07:03] <Alonea> AbortD: it does! I have it and it worked great
[07:03] <vow20> ati 2950 doesn't seem to work with feisty either
[07:03] <Jucato> you don't absolutely need envy to install nvidia drivers
[07:03] <vow20> 9250
[07:03] <AbortD> hm
[07:03] <AbortD> oh
[07:04] <AbortD> maybe if google stops sending me to crappy pages that just explain envy
[07:04] <Alonea> AbortD: did you see the link i posted? http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:04] <AbortD> oh no
[07:04] <Jucato> envy is a script that alberto made to automate the installation of nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[07:04] <Jucato> that is, it doesn't use the official ubuntu-packaged nvidia drivers
[07:04] <AbortD> you are not using the unstable version are you?
[07:05] <Alonea> intelikey: i am going to try the "checking data integrity" thing on bittorent. It appears there is a bad chunk so far in the check.
[07:05] <Jucato> unstable version of?
[07:05] <AbortD> envy
[07:05] <Jucato> no I don't use envy at all
[07:05] <fulat2k> anyone knows why knetworkmanager doesn't work well with my dlink dwl-g122 b1 usb wifi stick although it's detected?  i had to manually configure it in the interfaces file.
[07:06] <Jucato> I use the official nvidia drivers from Ubuntu
[07:06] <AbortD> i meant Alonea :)
[07:06] <Jucato> ah ok
[07:06] <Alonea> AbortD: Me? As far as I know, no. I have an ATI card, so my drivers are unstable because its fglrx and ati..and well...hell
[07:06] <AbortD> i just wish ubuntu would sync my screen
[07:08] <intelikey> !diversion steak but no bread.
[07:08] <Alonea> intelikey: yup. It seems there is indeed a bad chunk which it will redownload here in a minute after it finishes checking the rest of it. Glad it wasn't a program issue as I just installed the GUI version of Winrar on wine
[07:09] <intelikey> !rar
[07:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:09] <intelikey> !info unrar-free
[07:09] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:10] <Alonea> intelikey: I have it, but I like gui most the time, and I just wanted to try a different program to see if it worked.
[07:10] <intelikey> carry on then.
[07:10] <Alonea> I shall
[07:16] <hakaisou> ok then this sucks....
[07:16] <hakaisou> i'm stuck in 640x480 right now...
[07:16] <hakaisou> is there a command line method of changing the current resolution?
[07:17] <Jucato> !xconfig
[07:17] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !res
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:18] <Jucato> tralalalala
[07:19] <abortd> bah humbug
[07:20] <intelikey> bah bah black sheep...
[07:20] <abortd> bah bah blue sheep...
[07:21] <intelikey> have you any stool ?
[07:21] <Jucato> O.o
[07:21] <Jucato> I don't like the answer to that
[07:21] <jimmy_> Does anyone know when an official thunderbird2 package will be released?
[07:21] <intelikey> blue sheep..... ?
[07:21] <Jucato> 3 bags full :)
[07:21] <abortd> black sheep?
[07:21] <intelikey> a **** pot full....
[07:22] <hakaisou> it worked
[07:22] <hakaisou> thanks jucato
[07:22] <Jucato> no prob :)
[07:22] <Alonea> yay! it extracted!
[07:22] <redfive> well, so i loke automatrix2 alot
[07:23] <gordonr> [   42.052081]  dvb-usb: DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold successfully initialized and
[07:23] <gordonr> connected.
[07:23] <gordonr> But I can't scan for channels
[07:25] <redfive> ya how do you ge a chanel list with konversation
[07:25] <gordonr> Yes...but that won't help me get my HDTV OTA channels
[07:25] <Jucato> redfive: there's not pre-made channel list. you'll have to find out for yourself or search/list all the channels in freenode (can cause quite a lag on your end)
[07:26] <raylu> redfive, /list, but I recommend not doing it.
[07:26] <intelikey> /list can be filtered
[07:27] <Jucato> konversation has a dialog box for filtering and listing channels
[07:27] <Jucato> Window -> Channel List for <server> (or F5)
[07:27] <redfive> oh, this is on freenode?
[07:27] <raylu> redfive,yes
[07:28] <redfive> so netsplit might have the info
[07:28] <dsmith_> what is a good program to preform backups with ubuntu?
[07:28] <abortd> !pastebin
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:28] <redfive> backup ubuntu
[07:28] <intelikey> or debian.net   one leg is both the same.
[07:28] <dsmith_> "backup ubuntu" is a program?
[07:28] <redfive> whats debain frontend?
[07:28] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18911/
[07:28] <abortd> i try to install compiz after adding the repos and it does that
[07:28] <abortd> can someone help me?
[07:29] <redfive> do a search in adept dor backup
[07:29] <abortd> me?
[07:29] <Zamuray> hello all, i'm taking from chile. id installed kubuntu few days ago, first time trying, and id loved it (sorry my english)
[07:29] <redfive> im in the middle fo a backup or i would check
[07:29] <redfive> kubuntu is the best
[07:29] <abortd> it says its installed
[07:29] <dsmith_> keep?
[07:30] <raylu> abortd, you probably want compiz-kde
[07:30] <intelikey> abortd case.
[07:30] <abortd> nah im in gnome
[07:30] <intelikey> raylu case  ^
[07:30] <raylu> oh, there actually is a "compiz"
[07:30] <raylu> there's a compiz-gnome too
[07:31] <intelikey> raylu he tried Compiz
[07:31] <raylu> yes, I see
[07:31] <redfive> what ever happend to konstruct?
[07:31] <abortd> i tried compiz too
[07:31] <abortd> non capital
[07:31] <raylu> !konstruct
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konstruct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <abortd> in synaptic it says its installed
[07:32] <redfive> it used to install the latest KDE
[07:32] <jimmy_> So I have this minor problem in Beryl and KDE, when I start Beryl, the adept update manager and sometimes other programs that belong in the panel show up in another mini-window. Any ideas on what might be happening?
[07:32] <raylu> abortd, perhaps it is then...have you tried running it?
[07:32] <Taladan> allllrighty...where can I send a feature request?
[07:32] <abortd> how ?!
[07:32] <abortd> i see no icons!
[07:32] <raylu> abortd, I've never used it before, but try just "compiz" in a console
[07:32] <abortd> did
[07:33] <jimmy_> abortd, have you tried beryl?
[07:33] <abortd> well i got compiz running
[07:33] <abortd> i guess it has no gui
[07:34] <jimmy_> Beryl and compiz are the same thing now, but beryl is more advanced and easier to navigate
[07:34] <abortd> i installed it raylu
[07:34] <abortd> brb
[07:34] <raylu> then run that...
[07:34] <intelikey> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If ynot attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam ch
[07:34] <Taladan> also, I don't know if any devs are on here right now, but asoundconf's list option is apparently borked in the script.
[07:34] <dsmith_> join #backup
[07:35] <dsmith_> ooops
[07:35] <intelikey> can't use the ubuntu paste bin  from a console...   how dope.
[07:35] <dede> My Amarok cannt play any mp3 why?
[07:37] <intelikey> i seem to have dpkg totally borked this time.    http://pastebin.ca/468538
[07:37] <intelikey> !mp3 | dede
[07:37] <ubotu> dede: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <raylu> intelikey...can't you just reinstall festival?
[07:39] <intelikey> raylu and how's that ?
[07:39] <raylu> it says it needs to reinstall, right?
[07:40] <raylu> i'm going to guess it's not in a repos?
[07:40] <intelikey> raylu i have that package.  it's from ubuntu dapper, the system in question is DSL i.e. debian woody.
[07:40] <raylu> i thought the issue was "E: The package festival needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[07:40] <intelikey> i can't seem to remove it or reinstall it.
[07:41] <intelikey> it is.
[07:41] <intelikey>  that's from a apt-get install -f
[07:41] <raylu> this is going to sound really stupid but... apt-get reinstall festival
[07:41] <intelikey> which is sujested by the error message of the   dpkg -i --reinstall package.deb
[07:42] <intelikey> tty24 [root$~]  apt-get reinstall festival
[07:42] <intelikey> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[07:42] <intelikey> tty24 [root$~] 
[07:42] <intelikey> yeah it kinda did... thought i'd test it anyway
[07:43] <raylu> o.0?
[07:43] <raylu> aptitude does reinstall
[07:43] <raylu> it also should have a command that downloads the package and nothing else
[07:43] <raylu> (i don't use apt-get)
[07:44] <intelikey> well aptitude doesn't come with DSL  so that's not really an option.
[07:45] <intelikey> and until i can get dpkg streightened out nothing can be installed/removed.
[07:46] <raylu> ouches.
[07:46] <crimsun> apt-get --reinstall install
[07:46] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/468543  the full report...
[07:47] <intelikey> i think i'll hack the scripts and force it to finish installing
[07:47] <crimsun> the semantics for aptitude are a bit different; it won't accept reinstall as an operation for a package not currently installed.  apt-get doesn't care.
[07:52] <intelikey> it's the dangd busybox 'invoke-rc.d' command
[07:52] <intelikey> invoke-rc.d festival start
[07:52] <intelikey> festival: applet not found
[07:53] <intelikey> the init.d/festival is there and should work correctly.
[07:55] <Jucato> is there a sort of file splitter for linux/kde?
[07:57] <intelikey> Jucato dd can
[07:57] <Jucato> hm. ok. I'll look into it...
[07:57] <Jucato> (basically I want to be able to split some DVD ISO's into < 1GB chunks so I can transfer them to a laptop that has a DVD burner...)
[08:00] <intelikey> X=0 ;Q=1 ;P=0 ;while dd if=source.file of=dest.$P bs=<size> count=$Q skip=$X;do X=$(($X+1)) ;Q=$(($Q+1)) ;P=$(($P+1)) ;done
[08:01] <intelikey> not pretty.    test on something small first.
[08:01] <Jucato> aah... the beauty of bash :)
[08:01] <ubuntu> quick question..what would make kubuntu 7.04 boot from a dvd into safemode but not normal mode?
[08:01] <Jucato> or is it perl?
[08:01] <intelikey> bash
[08:01] <Jucato> oh.... I found out about "split" :D
[08:01] <fulat2k> Jucato: you can optionally install 7zip and split the iso :)
[08:01] <HardDisk> cause I've used suse desktop edition so im trying out kubuntu now
[08:02] <HardDisk> just wondering what that error would be from?
[08:02] <fulat2k> intelikey: very nice one liner btw :0
[08:02] <intelikey> fulat2k heh
[08:03] <intelikey> Jucato ah yes   i never learned to use split/join  cause i normally need to do that on disks and pause between...  big files to floppies...
[08:03] <HardDisk> aight fair enough...I can take a hint.
[08:04] <Jucato> HardDisk: not really sure what could be happening. sorry
[08:04] <fulat2k> HardDisk: have you switched to the error console to see the logs?
[08:04] <HardDisk> kinda wierd tho isnt it
[08:05] <HardDisk> well I was about to do that
[08:05] <HardDisk> but I think it's got to do with my videocard
[08:05] <fulat2k> HardDisk: have you tried text mode install?
[08:05] <HardDisk> it works fine.
[08:06] <HardDisk> like I said, normal mode install doesn't budge, safemode and text are both working
[08:06] <HardDisk> but no worries I'll figure it out, just thought of popping and seeing you folks ;)
[08:06] <HardDisk> kubun's a nice change from suse desktop
[08:07] <HardDisk> might pop in afterwards, it's just past 6am here and haven't had any sleep yet..
[08:07] <fulat2k> HardDisk: ahh... sorry, didn't read your previous posts.  get some sleep b4 you try anything else :P
[08:07] <HardDisk> in Egypt incase you're wondering.
[08:07] <HardDisk> hehe yea I will
[08:07] <Jucato> ooooh egypt :)
[08:07] <fulat2k> oohh.. my mum just came back from there on a trip :)
[08:07] <HardDisk> yea it's hot today, got the airco working.
[08:07] <Jucato> (and SimplyMEPIS)
[08:08] <HardDisk> lol, I try not to think hard of hash and belly dancer
[08:08] <HardDisk> s*
[08:08] <Jucato> hehe
[08:08] <HardDisk> haha oh ya I looked at mepis, funny they used pyramids in their logo.
[08:09] <HardDisk> well anyway I'll catch you later def.
[08:09] <HardDisk> salam! :)
[08:09] <Jucato> bye
[08:10] <fulat2k> anyone knows why knetworkmanager doesn't work well with my dlink dwl-g122 b1 usb wifi stick although it's detected?  i had to manually configure it in the interfaces file.
[08:13] <intelikey> by jove!    i think i got it !
[08:13] <intelikey> all is working in a chroot    i'll have to reboot into the other system to make sure
[08:20] <fulat2k> darn, nobody seems to know :(
[08:20] <abortd> either that or sleeping
[08:21] <abortd> i will try to help you after i use the restroom
[08:22] <intelikey> fulat2k i'm network illiterate...
[08:23] <fulat2k> intelikey: heh... no probs.  trying to check on bugs.kde.org
[08:23] <june> i'm having serious trouble printing with kpdf and a HP deskjet 5150
[08:23] <intelikey> any sujest a viewer that can fiew .tiff in fax format other than kfax ?       is there any such creature ?
[08:23] <june> it's cutting the pages in half
[08:24] <abortd> glue them together?
[08:24] <intelikey> june  prints from other apps ok ?
[08:25] <june> intelikey: eh no, it generally has the page offset a bit from where you'd expect it to print
[08:25] <intelikey> june then get into cups and fix the printer/driver maybe
[08:26] <intelikey> !printer | june here's a link that might help
[08:26] <ubotu> june here's a link that might help: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:26] <intelikey> the first  ^
[08:27] <june> thanks intellikey
[08:28] <nodesert_> should i upgrade edgy to feisty
[08:29] <abortd> no downgrade
[08:30] <intelikey> !lts
[08:30] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:31] <dror> I upgraded from breezy to feisty and now I'm having slow performance with NFS as described in http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16461/slow-startup-and-application-launch.html
[08:31] <intelikey> i've got two more years comming to me and i'm gonna get my money's worth out of shipit !
[08:31] <dror> any ideas?
[08:32] <intelikey> i need to go.   storm moving in...
[08:50] <TuTuFF> I`ve been having problems with knetworkmanager .. can it safely be disabled at boot and still have networking function as normal?
[08:53] <dominic_> hey guys, how do you loadup beryl automatically when you login?
[08:56] <dominic_> lol everyone sleeping huh....
[08:57] <fulat2k> not me.  but i don't know how :)
[08:59] <Jucato> dominic_: seen the beryl wiki? (the link is in the topic of #ubunu-effects )
[09:01] <dominic_> yea, very helpful jucato.... thanks so very much.
[09:09] <ijacek> !cz
[09:09] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:13] <firecrotch> !fonts
[09:13] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:15] <ZachClark0331> got a question ladies and gents, im trying to run steampowered for counter strike.
[09:15] <ZachClark0331> wines messin me all up
[09:18] <ZachClark0331> Anyone get counter-strike or steam working?
[09:23] <CVirus> ZachClark0331: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[09:24] <ZachClark0331> thanks, im just having a heck of a time getting to even work
[09:48] <erikja> !association
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about association - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <ijacek> !cz
[09:59] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:12] <insmod> any fix for shuting down an acer laptop? works sometimes and not others ?
[10:12] <abortd> hit it against a rock
[10:12] <insmod> ya
[10:13] <abortd> i thought acer went out of business
[10:14] <insmod> abortd: no idea in every store around here
[10:14] <abortd> i see laptops in walmart sometimes
[10:15] <Magian> Acer is still very active in Europe
[10:15] <abortd> haha europe
[10:15] <insmod> abortd: anyway some say it's snd_hda_intel some say restricted and others api -- none works fore me
[10:15] <abortd> whatever you just said
[10:16] <abortd> is egyptian to me
[10:16] <abortd> of course im tired though
[10:16] <insmod> abortd: so you no shit so stop comenting -- thanks
[10:16] <abortd> !language
[10:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:16] <Jucato> offtopic as well
[10:17] <abortd> if someone gets mad over a acer they have problems
[10:17] <abortd> well heck a computer alone
[10:17] <insmod> abortd: well i can be an idiot as well -- doesn't mean i know anything
[10:17] <dominic_> lol
[10:17] <DBO> kids, play nice
[10:18] <abortd> are you on the drug called stupid insmod ?
[10:18] <dominic_> yea... play nice.... use rocket launcher and grenade please. lmao ^^
[10:18] <abortd> lol
[10:18] <Jucato> abortd, insmod: stop that now
[10:19] <abortd> i tried Jucato
[10:19] <insmod> abortd: hey how about you fix the code in my project then i will respect ya
[10:19] <DBO> /ignore =)
[10:20] <abortd> i see me not fixing anything and going to sleep because i still got another 20 hours to works out of my 60 hour week
[10:20] <dominic_> nooo.... abortd use kaiede bows and arrows and insmod use inuyasha's sword(forgot the name)...
[10:20] <insmod> abortd: http://home.cogeco.ca/~smacneil1/
[10:20] <dominic_> lets see who wins
[10:20] <Jucato> desaiga?
[10:20] <abortd> :P
[10:20] <DBO> and everyone use emoticons more so ops can figure out your joking =)
[10:20] <dominic_> of course ill vote for abortd
[10:20] <abortd> hehe
[10:21] <dominic_> <3
[10:21] <Jucato> O.o
[10:21] <firecrotch> >_<
[10:21] <rdallarmi> hi, has anybody in here experience of sasl autentication using authdeamond?
[10:21] <abortd> well goodnight all have fun
[10:22] <dominic_> -d(-_-)b-  d(0-0)b-
[10:22] <insmod> dominic_: why ? i help on #linuxhelp #linux 11 yrs wrote a dvd app what has he done lol
[10:22] <insmod> idiot
[10:23] <robertwoes> i just changed my screen resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024, and I am finding it difficult to read my gmail in konqueror now.  The font size is so small.  Please, would anyone mind helping me to change the font in konqueror?
[10:23] <Jucato> insmod: I said stop it. calling someone an idiot doesn't help
[10:23] <dominic_> bro don't take it that serious,,, im just playing around, if you want me to vote for you. then fine, sorry abortd...
[10:23] <kayzra> bonjour atous
[10:23] <insmod> Jucato: if you are a cat you are a cat
[10:23] <abortd> sorry for what?
[10:24] <Kazade_> robertwoes: Have you tried holding ctrl and scrolling the mouse wheel?
[10:24] <abortd> ...
[10:24] <abortd> i need sleep
[10:24] <Jucato> insmod: and if you are here, you follow rules
[10:24] <abortd> lol gnight
[10:24] <ssaa> hello i need some help please
[10:24] <dominic_> that i have to change my vote over your enemy. lmao
[10:24] <ssaa> im having some problems configuring my touchpad
[10:24] <abortd> lolol
[10:24] <robertwoes> no I haven't Kazade_.  Will that be a permanent fix?
[10:24] <dominic_> good night abortd
[10:24] <abortd> gnight dominic_
[10:24] <insmod> Jucato: :) verbal abuse and slander is just as bad
[10:25] <escobaldo> buongiorno
[10:25] <Jucato> insmod: yes. and judging from your experience, shouldn't you know better not to get into a cat fight? :)
[10:25] <Jucato> hm... cats...
[10:25] <ssaa> please i need help
[10:25] <dominic_> lol @jucato
[10:25] <escobaldo> chi pu darmi una piccolissima informazione??
[10:25] <insmod> Jucato: cat fights are great
[10:25] <robertwoes> Kazade_: no I haven't Kazade_.  Will that be a permanent fix?
[10:25] <Jucato> !it | escobaldo
[10:25] <ubotu> escobaldo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:26] <Jucato> insmod: anything that involves cats getting hurt is *not* great :(
[10:26] <insmod> Jucato: :)
[10:26] <dominic_> gonna change my alian name...
[10:26] <robertwoes> Kazade_: wow.  Thanks for the help.  I just tried that and it works great.
[10:26] <insmod> Jucato: but 2 chicks rocks :)
[10:27] <Kazade_> robertwoes: um, no but if gmail is the only site with a problem it doesnt seem to be worth changing the font size for ALL pages
[10:27] <Jucato> ssaa: ask your question. if someone here knows, they'll answer
[10:27] <robertwoes> Kazade_: excellent point.
[10:27] <robertwoes> Kazade_: thanks again.
[10:27] <smile> #apache
[10:28] <dominic_> k im back
[10:28] <Jucato> robertwoes: font settings for Konqueror as web browser (KHTML) Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts
[10:28] <dominic_> WTF
[10:28] <Jucato> dominic_: nothing has changed :P
[10:29] <smile>  hi.. i want make a ftp count in my web site !! how to do ,?
[10:29] <smile> any help plz ?!
[10:29] <ssaa> jucato: maybe you could help me. when i run ksynaptics it says something like tha i need to edit xorg,conf (add a line to it) . Everytime I had added that line my system crashes and I have to reinstall kubuntu
[10:29] <jussi01> lol @ Jucato
[10:29] <robertwoes> Jucato: muchas gracias
[10:29] <insmod> smile: set up an ftp server and link to it
[10:30] <Jucato> ssaa: hm.. I haven't tried Kubuntu on my laptop yet...
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> k back
[10:30] <Jucato> actually I have, but haven't tried kysnaptics
[10:30] <smile> insmod: ftp server ??
[10:30] <Jucato> ksynaptics*
[10:30] <smile> insmod: how ?
[10:30] <ssaa> oh i see
[10:30] <Jucato> exconvictriddick: welcome back dominic_
[10:30] <Jucato> er... exconvictriddick
[10:30] <insmod> smile: have not done it in years but look into proftp
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> yeap
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> hey respect my name....
[10:30] <ssaa> how can i modify the area of the scrolling bar of my touchpad then. Its too big
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> used this all my online life ok.....
[10:31] <Jucato> :)
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> lmao
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> j/k
[10:31] <smile> insmod: proftp is a ftp server ?
[10:31] <insmod> smile: set that up then link it so they have password auth it
[10:31] <insmod> smile: ya
[10:31] <smile> insmod: can i get it with apt-get ?
[10:32] <exconvictriddick> ohhh inuyasha is on adult swim....
[10:32] <exconvictriddick> i hate adult swim
[10:32] <Jucato> !ftp
[10:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:32] <Jucato> tralallala... waiting for the bot...
[10:32] <insmod> smile: i loved it - it can mount dir so they can view certain files or dir or cdrom it rocks
[10:32] <Jucato> ah wrong factoid...
[10:32] <Jucato> !ftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:32] <Jucato> !info proftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[10:33] <Jucato> smile: ^^^ package name
[10:33] <insmod> Jucato: those are not all servers
[10:33] <Jucato> insmod: not my factoid :)
[10:33] <smile> Jucato: any HOWTO pz ?
[10:34] <smile> insmod: any HOWTO plz ?
[10:34] <Jucato> smile: how to install proftpd? use Adept Manager or apt-get (in Konsole)
[10:34] <insmod> smile: http://proftpd.linuxforum.net/
[10:35] <smile> insmod: thx
[10:35] <smile> Jucato: thx
[10:35] <insmod> :)
[10:35] <Jucato> :)
[10:40] <insmod> nighrt
[10:40] <HardDisk> well finally got this going..
[10:41] <insmod> night
[10:41] <Jucato> g'night insmod
[10:41] <Jucato> HardDisk: you got the Nile going? O.o
[10:41] <HardDisk> lol
[10:41] <HardDisk> no I mean kubuntu up and running :)
[10:41] <Jucato> aaaah
[10:41] <HardDisk> not bad btw
[10:42] <Jucato> kubuntu? yep not bad at all :D
[10:42] <HardDisk> I do miss the oh so many icons in the system manager of opensuse
[10:42] <HardDisk> but I think this distro is quite good
[10:42] <Jucato> system manager? you mean system tray?
[10:42] <HardDisk> well no I mean you know the thingy...
[10:43] <HardDisk> umm
[10:43] <HardDisk> system settings
[10:43] <Jucato> aah. comparing YaST to SYstem Settings?
[10:43] <HardDisk> yea
[10:43] <Jucato> ah ok. agreed then :)
[10:44] <HardDisk> and wierd that suse was able to detect my monitor's 1600x1050 res, but kubuntu only has me at 1024
[10:44] <HardDisk> I mean already installed the nvidia and beryl stuff so..
[10:44] <Jucato> heh other way around... Kubuntu was able to detect 1024x768 on this laptop, but SuSE only got me 800x600 :)
[10:45] <HardDisk> gotta google then how to get this thing to max res
[10:45] <Jucato> try configuring the drivers and resolution in System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[10:45] <HardDisk> yea I did
[10:45] <Jucato> (click Administrator Mode)
[10:46] <Jucato> hm.. then if that doesn't work...
[10:46] <fignew> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <Jucato> !xconfig | HardDisk
[10:46] <ubotu> HardDisk: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:46] <HardDisk> oh well..I can always do that too
[10:46] <HardDisk> gimme a sec
[10:46] <robertwoes> HardDisk: I just added the mode to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooted
[10:46] <robertwoes> worked
[10:46] <HardDisk> sounds good
[10:46] <HardDisk> brb
[10:46] <Jucato> rebooted?! omg!
[10:47] <HardDisk> well obviously Im not going to reboot :)
[10:47] <HardDisk> just restart x
[10:47] <robertwoes> well, restarted the xserver?
[10:47] <robertwoes> lol
[10:47] <Jucato> yep that's better
[10:47] <Jucato> whew :D
[10:47] <HardDisk> I may be a noob but I'm no idiot
[10:47] <robertwoes> hah! hilarious
[10:47] <Jucato> reboot, reformat, reinstall... try to get rid of those habits :)
[10:48] <Jucato> I mean, reboot to fix things :D
[10:48] <Jucato> (or after fixing/installing/configuring)
[10:49] <HardDisk> hmm
[10:50] <HardDisk> seems its locked
[10:50] <HardDisk> would beryl lock it?
[10:50] <Jucato> what is locked?
[10:50] <HardDisk> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[10:50] <HardDisk> !fixres
[10:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:51] <HardDisk> I'll just do it from the beginning
[10:51] <HardDisk> brb
[10:54] <robertwoes> btw i want to clean my lcd monitor -- can i just use regular glass cleaner?
[10:54] <robertwoes> heh
[10:55] <|ericsson|> robertwoes: or type clean-my-monitor in terminal
[10:55] <robertwoes> what's a terminal?
[10:55] <robertwoes> lol
[10:56] <maki> is resizing dangerous job
[10:57] <robertwoes> |ericsson|: can you send me the script?
[10:58] <|ericsson|> robertwoes: all you need is a good sense of humor, a command-terminal and patience..
[11:00] <exconvictriddick> lol
[11:00] <robertwoes> |ericsson|: I don't see how a card game will clean my monitor, but I will just start playing and hope for the best.
[11:01] <|ericsson|> robertwoes: use a soft cloth to clean, might be faster..
[11:01] <robertwoes> |ericsson|: Hey, now *THAT* is a good idea!
[11:01] <Jucato> no lint cloth
[11:02] <robertwoes> yes, no lint.
[11:05] <Shura`> hello ! i have a problem since I've installed Kub 7.04 -> Here it is http://shurafr.free.fr/power_manager.png, and here is my cat /proc/cpuinfo : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18926/
[11:05] <Shura`> Am I alone ?
[11:07] <robertwoes> bbl
[11:12] <escobaldo> #kubuntu-it
[11:12] <A_A> how do i make a 32-bit compatibility environment for cedega ?
[11:12] <LucidFox> is it possible to tell Firefox to open folders in Konqueror instead of Nautilus?
[11:16] <just-this-time> !uuid
[11:16] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:18] <Shura`> !cpufreq
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufreq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <Shura`> !powernowd
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernowd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <A_A> !32-bit in 64-bit
[11:19] <A_A> !32-bit
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32-bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <just-this-time> uuid error msg on boot non-critical though. where , in what boot log Ican find it again ?
[11:20] <A_A> how do i make a 32-bit compatibility environment for cedega ?
[11:23] <adydas> whats the console command to refresh/ restart xwindows config to redetect resoltuion
[11:23] <adydas> resolution
[11:25] <nino__> hi all
[11:26] <nino__> how i can connect PocketPC to Kubuntu?
[11:26] <Tm_T> nino__: Windows Mobile 5 ?
[11:26] <nino> yes wm5
[11:26] <Tm_T> aww
[11:26] <nino> aww?? what is it?
[11:26] <Tm_T> nino: there is, err, what was it...
[11:27] <adydas> how do i reset resoultion
[11:27] <nino> Pocket with windows mobile 5
[11:28] <nino> how i can connect PocketPC(with Windows mobile 5) to Kubuntu?
[11:28] <Tm_T> nino: no need to repeat
[11:28] <raffytaffy_> is it possible to cluster a *buntu laptop with a desktop runing a light distro like...say..DSL?
[11:29] <nino> Tm_T, can you help me?
[11:29] <A_A> how do i make a 32-bit compatibility environment for cedega ?
[11:31] <Tm_T> nino: trying
[11:32] <nino> #ubuntu-ru
[11:32] <nino> oy
[11:32] <just-this-time> is Disk and Filesystems changong fstab?
[11:33] <raffytaffy_> hi Tm_T
[11:34] <Tm_T> hello
[11:34] <nino> just-this-time, yes, in fstab
[11:35] <just-this-time> so how do I change changed and non-existant UUID ?
[11:35] <raffytaffy_> i use /dev/hda# instead of UUID / or SDA if feisty
[11:35] <detto> is there any way to choose the color of the background of a document in OO with hexadecimal codes?
[11:36] <Tm_T> nino: hmh, can't remember, something r-- it was
[11:36] <just-this-time> so what was the use of UUIDs in fstab anyway ?
[11:37] <nino> Tm-T- you about Pocket?
[11:37] <Tm_T> nino: yes
[11:37] <just-this-time> migrate fronm PATA to SATA maybe?
[11:37] <Tm_T> nino: though, I never managed to sync my iPaq
[11:37] <Tm_T> nino: but some devices seem to work just fine
[11:38] <dc2447> adept isn't luanching the upgrade tool for me  - it it safe to run dist-upgrade instead?
[11:39] <Tm_T> dc2447: you can run apt-get or synaptic too
[11:39] <nino> Tm-T, where i can read about it?
[11:39] <dc2447> Tm_T - I know  - that is what I'm asking  - is apt-get dist-upgrade safe once source3s.list has been updated or does adept do some magic
[11:40] <Tm_T> dc2447: well, no it doesn't ;)
[11:40] <dc2447> kewl
[11:40] <Tm_T> dc2447: just look what you're doing and you should be fine
[11:41] <dc2447> yeah - this is my 8th upgrade so far to fiesty
[11:41] <Tm_T> =)
[11:42] <Tm_T> dc2447: but I repeat, watch what you're doing ;)
[11:42] <Tm_T> there's some differences how metapackages are handled I think
[11:44] <dc2447> The main theing previously has been /dev/sd[a-z /dev/hd[a-z]  madness
[11:44] <adydas> can anyone tell me the console command to reconfigure xwindows
[11:45] <dc2447> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:46] <adydas> Cheers
[11:46] <adydas> could installing sun??? screw my what was working desktop?
[11:47] <adydas> so where is xconf located normally?
[11:48] <adydas> isnt it ?/etc/x11
[11:48] <dc2447> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:49] <adydas> phew it is there
[11:49] <adydas> i rebooted a perfect system and suddenly my resolutiuons gone out the windows
[11:49] <adydas> 640x480
[11:49] <adydas> why? how can i fix it as the conf says 1280x1024
[11:49] <dc2447> what driver are you using  - what is your card?
[11:50] <adydas> Nvidia
[11:50] <adydas> 7900GT
[11:50] <adydas> ive had it going fine for months, with beryl and everything
[11:50] <adydas> suddenly tonight it needed fsk for a disk and booted to a naff resoluition
[11:50] <adydas> im stumped, and i cant change it via the gui as su
[11:51] <adydas> the xorg.conf shows a 1280x1024 there
[11:51] <dc2447> what does the Driver section say under Section "Device"
[11:51] <adydas>     Identifier     "Default Screen"
[11:51] <adydas>     Device         "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[11:52] <adydas> opps
[11:52] <adydas> sorry
[11:52] <adydas> was only ment to be the one line
[11:52] <adydas> surly the drivers working as like berly works
[11:52] <adydas> i wouldnt think it would on generic nv
[11:55] <adydas> i dont know why "system Settings" wont change it...
[11:55] <adydas> Guess nothing..
[12:04] <mrcreativity> can someone tell me how to configure an application to autostart?
[12:07] <just-this-time> !pdf
[12:07] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[12:07] <just-this-time> how to install easily a pdf printer?
[12:09] <soulrider_> just-this-time: so that you can print to a PDF file ?
[12:10] <soulrider_> openoffice can save to PDF if you want
[12:11] <soulrider_> but if you go to system settings and to printers, you can add a pdf printer
[12:12] <just-this-time> tyvm soulrider_ . want an systemwide printer available from FF2
[12:12] <just-this-time> tyvm soulrider_ . want an systemwide  PDF printer available from FF2
[12:12] <soulrider_> just-this-time: could you get it set up ?
[12:13] <Jucato_> (you don't need to add a PDF printer... there's a Print to PDF option from KDE Print by default, unless it's a non-KDE app)
[12:13] <Jucato_> !autostart | mrcreativity
[12:13] <ubotu> mrcreativity: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:21] <eazy> hi, my SBaudigy 1 doesn't work at all, do i have to install some driver or something
[12:22] <eazy> ?
[12:31] <Chump> Hi
[12:32] <Chump> In Feisty it doesn't seem to work to boot in another runlevel than 2
[12:32] <Chump> Does anyone know why?
[12:35] <erikja> !samba
[12:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:48] <rdallarmi> hi, has anybody in here experience of sasl autentication using authdeamond?
[12:54] <Jump86> does konquerer have a way to add a del.iciou.us plugin?
[12:55] <Jump86> i love konquerer but need my bookmarks
[12:59] <ubuntu> hi
[01:00] <ubuntu> how can I save the package selection for instaling it later in another computer?
[01:01] <DiThi> oops, my nick isn't ubuntu
[01:06] <Gamic> DiThi: I'm sure you can, but I don't know how. Ask again later when people seem to have woken up ;)
[01:20] <nhatz> guys where can i find the startup programs in kubuntu?
[01:22] <_4strO> !startup | nhatz
[01:22] <_4strO> !autostart | nhatz
[01:22] <ubotu> nhatz: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:22] <ubotu> nhatz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:35] <djdarkman> can someone tell how does /proc/cpuinfo work?
[01:35] <ddaedalus> djdarkman: try man proc, search for cpuinfo
[01:38] <djdarkman> yeah I see but it doesn`t contain what I need
[01:38] <djdarkman> I mean it`s reporting wrong CPU speed
[01:38] <djdarkman> and I want to know if it`s realy wrong, or my CPU has a problem
[01:39] <djdarkman> my processor is 2.0 GHz
[01:39] <djdarkman> cpuinfo reports 1.0 GHz
[01:39] <ddaedalus> does your cpu downscale? is it a pentium?
[01:39] <djdarkman> but strange thing is that on startup it reports 2.0Ghz
[01:39] <djdarkman> AMD 64 Athlon 3200+
[01:40] <djdarkman> does the generic kernel does some CPU scalling?
[01:40] <ddaedalus> your cpu scales down. try to make it sweat a little bit, and look during this process into cpuinfo
[01:40] <ddaedalus> well, mine does
[01:41] <Chump> hello
[01:41] <djdarkman> don`t understand ,what should I do?
[01:41] <djdarkman> ohhh sorry
[01:41] <djdarkman> read it wrong
[01:41] <djdarkman> I understand
[01:41] <ddaedalus> as lon as it puts your cpu under heavy load, it doesent matter
[01:41] <ddaedalus> kk ;)
[01:42] <Chump> hey does anyone know if it is possible to use the read command or ask user input in any way in the boot scripts
[01:50] <djdarkman_> is there a way I can disable CPU scaling?
[01:50] <ddaedalus> dont know. why would you want to?
[01:50] <djdarkman_> I don`t want it
[01:50] <ddaedalus> thats... not very convincing ^^
[01:51] <ddaedalus> sorry i dont know a way to disable it. IIRC it is hardwired into the cpu
[01:51] <djdarkman_> sometimes my system doesn`t run fast enough
[01:52] <ddaedalus> a hack would be putting a heavy nice load on the system
[01:52] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[01:52] <djdarkman_> yeah I don`t like scalling because if there`s high load and doesn`t reach the scalling limit, my system is just slow
[01:53] <kubuntu_tester> my system (kubuntu dapper drake) doesnt mount automatically an usb key
[01:54] <kubuntu_tester> kernel recognizes the device
[01:54] <ddaedalus> if theres high load, the cpu should automagically scale up. you shouldnt see a leag since scaling is very fast < 0.01ms
[01:54] <ddaedalus> *lag
[01:54] <kubuntu_tester> a pop-up appears but when I press "open in new window" nothing happens
[01:55] <kubuntu_tester> someone can help me? thanks
[01:55] <kubuntu_tester> I checked bugs in launchpad but did not help
[01:56] <kubuntu_tester> I can provide some output messages if needed
[01:56] <ddaedalus> kubuntu_tester: is dapper still supported?
[01:56] <chijin> it is
[01:56] <kubuntu_tester> ddaedalus: sure, it's a long term distro
[01:56] <kubuntu_tester> three years
[01:56] <ddaedalus> oh, i see.
[01:56] <kubuntu_tester> for desktop use
[01:56] <chijin> kubuntu_tester: do you see the usb disk under /media/ ?
[01:56] <ddaedalus> yes, ur right. i forgot
[01:57] <kubuntu_tester> chijin: nope
[01:57] <kubuntu_tester> I need to use pmount to access device
[01:58] <kubuntu_tester> the problem appared after last upgrade of kde
[01:58] <djdarkman> kubuntu_tester: upgrade to feisty fawn
[01:58] <kubuntu_tester> djdarkman: what a solution! lol
[02:01] <kubuntu_tester> kernel's log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18945/
[02:02] <ddaedalus> kubuntu_tester: since pmount works, its rather a problem with kde
[02:03] <rdallarmi> how do I check, using apt-get, if a given package is installed?
[02:03] <kubuntu_tester> rdallarmi: use apt-cache
[02:04] <kubuntu_tester> ddaedalus: the kde daemon pop-ups a window but when I confirm the "open in new window" nothing happens as I said
[02:04] <rdallarmi> kubuntu_tester: does that return the available packages or the installed ones?
[02:04] <ddaedalus> kubuntu_tester: thats even more evident that kde screws up :P
[02:05] <kubuntu_tester> ddaedalus: what part of kde do I need to control?
[02:05] <kubuntu_tester> rdallarmi: read manual page you will find all info about
[02:05] <ddaedalus> rdallarmi: simply do apt-get install <package>, apt-get will complain if it is already iinstalled
[02:05] <ddaedalus> kubuntu_tester: sorry, dont know
[02:06] <kubuntu_tester> hmm, ok...I will try to ask someone on #kde
[02:06] <kubuntu_tester> thanks anyway
[02:06] <ddaedalus> np
[02:09] <uciu> hallo
[02:09] <uciu> Ich habe eine frage
[02:09] <uciu> Wie soll ich Photoshop CS3 in Linux instalieren?
[02:09] <kubuntu_tester> !de | uciu
[02:09] <ubotu> uciu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:15] <sebbar> hi, so is there any chance kubuntu will get loaded on dells machines or is it just ubuntu? has anybody heard anything on that?
[02:16] <detto> sebbar- not sure, but it's easy enough to download kde and run that
[02:16] <detto> sebbar- in fact, I know that kubuntu comes with gdm and you can choose it when you log in
[02:17] <Jucato> kubuntu does not come with gdm
[02:17] <sebbar> ok, it would be nice if dell had kde preinstalled as well
[02:18] <Jucato> who knows... we'll have to wait and see...
[02:18] <detto> jucato- hmm... maybe it auto installed when I got some gnome program
[02:18] <Jucato> detto: probably. KDM is the default login manager for Kubuntu
[02:18] <Jucato> unless that was what you meant
[02:18] <jujimufu> speaking of KDM
[02:18] <jujimufu> how can I access it's control panel
[02:18] <jujimufu> because it does not appear anywhere in the KDE Control Center
[02:18] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Login Manager
[02:19] <Jucato> or KControl -> System Administration -> Login Manager
[02:19] <jujimufu> ok, thanks
[02:20] <ranxerox> buon giorno a tutti
[02:21] <detto> !it
[02:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:23] <smee> hi
[02:23] <NiceGuyUK> lo
[02:24] <NiceGuyUK> !usenet
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <jujimufu> Jucato: going to Advanced -> Login Manager gets me to the actual login manager, not KDM. There is no option to install a KDM theme anywhere, it's just the plain, default login manager.
[02:28] <Jucato> jujimufu: that was what I was thinking you would be asking next :)
[02:28] <jujimufu> >_>
[02:28] <Jucato> um... btw, KDM *is* the actual login manager :)
[02:28] <jujimufu> ok, sorry
[02:28] <jujimufu> wrong thing
[02:28] <Jucato> jujimufu: install the package kdmtheme
[02:29] <jujimufu> Jucato: yes, that's what I mean, kdm theme manager :P
[02:29] <jujimufu> Jucato: lol, sorry :D
[02:29] <jujimufu> thanks again :)
[02:29] <Jucato> then run kcontrol (the real kcontrol) and go to kcontrol -> system administration
[02:29] <jujimufu> thankies
[02:30] <jujimufu> oh, and one last thing
[02:30] <epimeth> I think my amarok died....
[02:30] <epimeth> used it last night, worked... updated today, doesn't
[02:30] <epimeth> :-)
[02:30] <jujimufu> which file do I have to edit to add applications which should be run on startup (of KDE), and how do I add them?
[02:30] <jujimufu> I will make sure not to update my dog, then
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> epimeth: updated to what?
[02:30] <Jucato> !autostart | jujimufu
[02:30] <ubotu> jujimufu: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:31] <epimeth> Daisuke_Ido: there was an update for amarok... so I upgraded
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm at 1.4.5, so...
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> you're running feisty, right?
[02:34] <jujimufu> btw
[02:35] <jujimufu> I have three different keyboard layouts (languages), and I want to switch through them by pressing left Shift+Alt. How do I do that?
[02:38] <Mike_deuss> hello how can I install new dvd player for kubuntu
[02:43] <agresor> my kdesktop crashed and wont start automatic.. how to start
[02:43] <agresor> kde from command ?
[02:45] <sahin_h> Mike_deuss: For DVD playing see the following url:
[02:45] <sahin_h> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[02:50] <phpcode> i run a dualboot on one HDD, how to install kubuntu on the windows part?
[02:51] <VSpike> What's the best way to get the sound on gnome apps to work well undeer KDE?  I've opened the gnome-control-centre, and looked at the sound settings.  Should I just turn off ESD and set it to ALSA for everything?  Or are the settings not even relevant under KDE?
[02:51] <VSpike> I have two sound cards, and I find that gnome apps seem to use the wrong one.
[02:51] <VSpike> Mainly flash in firefox
[02:52] <VSpike> phpcode: How many partitions do you have? And what OS's installed now?
[02:54] <phpcode> i have 2 partitions, and want to install Kubuntu where windows are.
[02:56] <epimeth> ummmm.... so amarok isn't working...
[02:57] <Filthpig> hi all
[02:57] <epimeth> hi Filthpig!
[02:57] <Filthpig> does anyone have any experience with running ut2004 under kubuntu?
[02:57] <epimeth> nope, but I understand it isn't supposed to be too difficult
[02:57] <Filthpig> the install went smoothly, and the game runs perfectly... but there's no sound :s
[02:58] <epimeth> ahh
[02:58] <Filthpig> it's damned neat, really, the games actually comes with a linux installer
[02:58] <Filthpig> don't have to download a linux client (as with neverwinter nights)
[02:59] <Filthpig> I do suspect that it might have something to do with the sound driver
[02:59] <epimeth> try this:
[02:59] <Filthpig> cause the game only has "OpenAL" as sound driver..
[03:00] <epimeth> install libopenalpp-cvs1 and libopenal-cvs-dev
[03:00] <Filthpig> alrighty
[03:00] <epimeth> copy and rename libopenalpp.xo.100 to openal.so in the System folder of the UT install
[03:00] <epimeth> run the game :-)
[03:00] <epimeth> this is from:
[03:00] <epimeth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2325660
[03:00] <Filthpig> ah
[03:01] <Filthpig> I searched for it on google, but I probably wasn't specific enough ;)
[03:02] <botch> hello there
[03:02] <Filthpig> helly
[03:02] <botch> just got a brand new pc!
[03:02] <Filthpig> helly? heheh. Hello!
[03:02] <botch> man - it is so fast!
[03:02] <epimeth> botch: congrats!
[03:02] <Filthpig> botch: I envy thee :)
[03:02] <epimeth> Filthpig: my search was: ut2004 kubuntu sound
[03:03] <botch> so, now i want to get my kde settings from my old one to my brand new and hot one
[03:03] <Filthpig> epimeth: my search was ut2004 sound problems linux
[03:03] <botch> is there a utility to do so seamlessly?
[03:03] <Filthpig> gave me loads of bulls*
[03:03] <epimeth> Filthpig: it was the first link from google :-0
[03:03] <epimeth> Filthpig: that's why I'm working in an SEO company and you're not! :-)
[03:03] <botch> also wallet, bookmarks and stuff..
[03:03] <Filthpig> botch: copy ~/.kde to your new home folder
[03:03] <epimeth> botch: copy ~/.kde from your old one to the new one
[03:04] <Filthpig> epimeth: hahah
[03:04] <botch> Filthpig: is it really that easy?
[03:04] <Filthpig> botch: yep
[03:04] <epimeth> botch: yes, but make sure all of the same programs are installed
[03:04] <botch> i mean, the new Feisty brought new things and goodies. would i overwrite those new things with my old configs?
[03:04] <epimeth> botch: really, copy your entire ~ (home) directory over
[03:05] <epimeth> botch: probably not
[03:05] <epimeth> make a backup first :-)
[03:05] <jujimufu> !autostart
[03:05] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:05] <epimeth> soooo.... amarok?
[03:05] <botch> epimeth: the apps differ. definetly
[03:06] <epimeth> botch: depends on the apps, and for the most part apps keep old config settings for reverse compatability :-)
[03:06] <botch> epimeth: i see. i'll give it a try...
[03:06] <epimeth> botch: what do you think happens when you upgrade a program with apt?  it deletes your old confs?
[03:06] <dfeser> hi all!
[03:07] <epimeth> dfeser: ahoy!
[03:07] <dfeser> has something changed in 7.04 regarding usb subsystem?
[03:07] <VSpike> botch: I did a clean install of feisty on a new partition, and once installed, just mounted the partition with my old /home in the new FS.  Which is basically the same thing.  And it worked fine.
[03:08] <VSpike> Wow.  kworldclock really sucks!
[03:08] <dfeser> i used bcharge to adjust my usb port to 500mA...worked on 6.10...
[03:08] <phpcode> VSpike: i have 2 partitions, and want to install Kubuntu on one of them(where windows are, C:/ in windows).
[03:09] <Filthpig> epimeth: and I have sound :)
[03:09] <erikja> !force
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about force - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Filthpig> didn't need to do the copy/rename-thing
[03:09] <luis_lopez> Hi all!, What is the best KDE tool to send a popup message to logged-in users at any given time?
[03:09] <VSpike> phpcode: what's on the other one?
[03:10] <dfeser> does somenone have a clue?
[03:10] <_Johny> Hello. How can I reconfigure my "bash.rc" file, becouse it's been wiped out from the HDD somehow....
[03:10] <phpcode> VSpike: only files(backup)
[03:11] <VSpike> phpcode:  So are you wanting a dual boot system, or you want to replace windows with kubuntu?
[03:11] <phpcode> vspike: replace (a)
[03:12] <epimeth> Filthpig: so do I... just no 'mute' button :-)
[03:13] <epimeth> well, there is a mute button... and it says on the screen "Mute On/Off"
[03:13] <epimeth> but the sound doesn't turn on or off
[03:13] <epimeth> heh
[03:13] <VSpike> phpcode: So which part are you stuck on?  Have you tried running the live CD?
[03:14] <epimeth> _Johny: you can grab the bash.rc file from /etc/skel
[03:14] <epimeth> _Johny: its better than nothing....
[03:14] <VSpike> phpcode: I'd prefer to go with the manual partitioning options.  In your case, I'd probably delete the windows partition if there's nothing on it you need, and then create at least one large main and one small swap partition in its place.
[03:14] <epimeth> _Johny: won't have any of your settings, but it's the default one for all new users
[03:15] <epimeth> dfeser: sorry, dunno
[03:15] <phpcode> vspike: im in kubuntu running from the CD.
[03:15] <epimeth> phpcode: you like? :-)
[03:15] <VSpike> phpcode: if you want to subdivide your partitions further, that's fine too.  Up to you.  Depends on the size of your HDD.
[03:16] <VSpike> phpcode: probably KISS if no particular reason to do otherwise
[03:16] <Filthpig> epimeth: what..? you mean the "mute"-button on your keyboard, or in ut?
[03:16] <Filthpig> hm, problem. ut crashes when trying to window it
[03:17] <_Johny> epimeth, Thank you. I just copied it from another user account, is it fine?
[03:18] <VSpike> phpcode: Now ... [[03:18] <fsckit> anyone else having any problems with kubuntu not automounting when a cd is put in?
[03:18] <VSpike> phpcode: When you get to the partitioning part, just choose "manual".  Rest of the install is almost criminally simple... in 99% of cases :)
[03:20] <phpcode> vspike: [X]  primary ----- [] Logical  ??
[03:21] <epimeth> VSpike: Keep it simple, stupid or keep it simple & stupid ?
[03:21] <fsckit> anyone have problems automounting a cd/dvd?
[03:21] <VSpike> phpcode: all of those could be primary... what configuration you have now?
[03:21] <fsckit> ...or is linux not supposed to work that way?
[03:21] <epimeth> Filthpig: lol!!! whups... you didn't thank me, for getting you sound... you just said "I have sound"... I thought you were making fun of me cuz my amarok isn't working
[03:21] <epimeth> :-)
[03:22] <epimeth> fsckit: it should automount
[03:22] <mat1980> fsckit, linux can automount cd. Ubuntu should do it.
[03:23] <fsckit> it doesn't usually go smoothly when i'm putting in and ejecting cd's. k3b gave me a "can't unmount" error a while ago...
[03:23] <VSpike> phpcode: try putting the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" to the pastebin
[03:24] <phpcode> vspike: Mount point?
[03:24] <phpcode> vspike: what is that?
[03:24] <VSpike> phpcode: If you are creating one main partition, then /
[03:25] <mat1980> fsckit, I suppose your drive is not well supported.
[03:26] <VSpike> phpcode: the linux filesystem is very flexible ... you can mount any device anywhere into your filesystem, which always starts at the root (/) and works down from there...
[03:26] <mat1980> fsckit, did you ever tried other distro?
[03:26] <mat1980> fsckit, or other version of kubuntu?
[03:26] <VSpike> phpcode: for example, you could put all your use files on a different partition or drive by making another partition and setting the mountpoint to "/home".  When you browse the files in linux, it all looks like a single file structure, but can be spread across many devices
[03:27] <VSpike> phpcode: In your case, you want a single root partition containing everything, so the mount point is /
[03:28] <phpcode> vspike: ok.
[03:29] <VSpike> phpcode: when you have time for reading, start with http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
[03:30] <fsckit> mat1980, yes, but a a few years ago. it's a pioneer 107d which is common especially among ps2 game copiers, not to say i'm one, lol
[03:30] <jujimufu> I have three different keyboard layouts (languages), and I want to switch through them by pressing left Shift+Alt. How do I do that?
[03:31] <fsckit> guess i'm still a noob at linux but between manual and auto mounting, it's never been all that smooth sailing
[03:31] <VSpike> phpcode: this is quite good too: http://polishlinux.org/first-steps/filesystem-and-disks/
[03:32] <asif> Hi is there any desktop effects in kubuntu?
[03:32] <jujimufu> asif: such as?
[03:32] <asif> jujimufu: Those ones in ubuntu..
[03:33] <phpcode> vspike: Thx. :D
[03:33] <ddaedalus> asif: by default, no.
[03:33] <jujimufu> asif: which ones? I don't have ubuntu, so you have to be a little bit more explaining.
[03:33] <asif> jujimufu: The xgl style ones
[03:33] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: he means beryl/compiz
[03:33] <asif> ddaedalus: Are they enabled from a menu?
[03:33] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: but these are not standard ubuntu, are they?
[03:34] <jujimufu> asif: no, kubuntu doesn't have these by default.
[03:34] <ddaedalus> asif: no, kubuntu hasnt these
[03:34] <asif> jujimufu: Does kubuntu have them in menu at all?
[03:34] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: not enabled, but installed
[03:34] <sjb> hi there
[03:34] <jujimufu> asif: no.
[03:34] <sjb> how do i find partitions such as hd0.3 in kubuntu
[03:34] <jujimufu> asif: you have to download them and install them yourself.
[03:34] <asif> jujimufu: Okay many thanks
[03:34] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: really? I didn't know that... I thought XGL was still experimental, and ubuntu contains only stable stuff.
[03:35] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: u dont need xgl to run beryl. <x>ubuntu had since 6.10 aiglx by default which is enough for beryl
[03:36] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: so you can have the same effects with aiglx and beryl as you can with compiz+xgl?
[03:36] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: compiz also runs on aiglx
[03:37] <VSpike> asif: Are you running 7.04?
[03:37] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: basically these things run everything that provides compositioning ind texture_from_pixmap gl extension
[03:37] <asif> VSpike: Yes
[03:37] <fsckit> jujimufu, you can get effects up the yazoo with kubuntu and it's still a light load for my 5 year old computer
[03:37] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: so aiglx+beryl is stable enough now?
[03:38] <VSpike> asif: then I think "sudo aptitude install beryl" will do it
[03:38] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: aiglx is, beryl is not
[03:38] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: but still i do use beryl
[03:38] <asif> VSpike: Is the effects same as the ubuntu ones, or different somehow?
[03:39] <ddaedalus> asif: beryl/compiz is beryl/compiz no matter where
[03:39] <VSpike> asif: I saw that ubuntu has an effects entry in the control panel, but I don't know what it uses.  Trust me though, beryl has everything you'd ever need and more besides
[03:39] <asif> ddaedalus: I see, thanks
[03:39] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: baah... Last time I ran xgl and compiz was in September, and the main problem with it was that when I ran compiz with kde it ran terribly slowly, while with gnome it ran just fine. thing is, I worked mainly in kde, so i abandoned it.
[03:39] <Filthpig> epimeth: hahaha, sorry :D Thanks for the help on the sound. I did NOT make fun of you, I didn't even know you had a problem with amaroK :D lol!
[03:39] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: so, if I apt-get aiglx and beryl, it should work, or is it too much trouble (like xgl and compiz) to make it work?
[03:40] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: because beryl has some kde-centric hacks, u can use beryl just nice on kde
[03:40] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: I see. But it is too much hassle to install it, or is it fast and easy?
[03:40] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: plz take a look on the wiki. and no. aiglx is the default x server for ubuntu
[03:40] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: ok ok, sorry. Thanks again :)
[03:40] <VSpike> asif: once installed, run beryl-manager to start
[03:41] <VSpike> I just tried it, it works
[03:41] <fsckit> here's my desktop using beryl: http://www.flickr.com/photos/usp8riot/481880323/in/photostream/
[03:41] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: np. beryl, beryl-core, emerald shouldn be enaough
[03:41] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: still u should first read the ubuntu wiki for sure
[03:41] <VSpike> ddaedalus: beryl seems to pull everything else in
[03:41] <ddaedalus> VSpike: well, thats good ^^
[03:42] <VSpike> It's a lot easier than it was getting it working in edgy :)
[03:42] <fsckit> i'm surprised how stable and light beryl the latest beryl is
[03:42] <jujimufu> yeah, along with some gnome-related libraries that I see here.
[03:42] <ddaedalus> VSpike: i *am* on edgy, and its easy enough
[03:42] <VSpike> ddaedalus: My main problem was getting the latest binary nvidia driver installed
[03:43] <VSpike> ddaedalus: the one shipped with feisty supports AIGLX though which is good
[03:43] <ddaedalus> VSpike: where there is a will there is a way ;) :P
[03:43] <ubuntu_> hola que tal como estan todos se que este canal no es para habla hispana pero asi como van las cosas no tengo otra opcion por favor disculpen las molestias. tengo un problema al arrancar cubuntu tras una actualizacion del kernel y no encuentro como solucionarlo. de verdad agradeceria mucho cualquier ayuda que puedan darme
[03:43] <VSpike> I couldn't and still can't get it play nicely with the KDE desktop switcher.... ddaedalus / fsckit , how do you handle that?
[03:44] <ddaedalus> VSpike: i know, therefore i am trying to update to feisty asap
[03:44] <ddaedalus> VSpike: u have to set the number of desktops to 1, and forget about the desktop switcher
[03:44] <jujimufu> ubuntu_: este no canal para habla espanol. Halo ingles?
[03:44] <jujimufu> *Hablo
[03:44] <VSpike> ddaedalus: set that in the kde contrl panel?
[03:45] <ubuntu_> no
[03:45] <fsckit> VSpike, i've only ever used one desktop. or just use beryl's desktop switcher, it's nicer
[03:45] <ddaedalus> VSpike: yes, should do
[03:45] <VSpike> ubuntu: has probado el canal #ubuntu-es?
[03:45] <ubuntu_> probe en kubuntu-es pero nadie responde
[03:46] <jujimufu> ubuntu_: no #kubuntu-es, ma #ubuntu-es
[03:47] <maniac920> Hi. Is there anyone willing to help a poor newbie on a simple problem?
[03:47] <mat1980> maniac, tell
[03:47] <fsckit> maniac920, the line you wasted asking if you can ask, you could've just asked it
[03:48] <ubuntu_> gracias jujimufu
[03:48] <jujimufu> hey, VSpike, I apt-got beryl and all its dependencies, and I tried running "beryl manager", but I got this error: "Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled"
[03:48] <double> hello wat is a name of french chanel Kubuntu ?
[03:49] <double> sory for my english :)
[03:49] <maniac920> it seems im not able to log in as a root. using the command su a window pops up asking for a password but you cant type anything in it. its the same with that command in the console.
[03:49] <Lynx-> Hi. I've got a question: Will Kubuntu 7.10 have KDE 4 or still KDE 3?
[03:50] <jujimufu> ubuntu_: de nada
[03:50] <fsckit> maniac920, to login as root, i just start in recovery mode
[03:50] <Jucato> Lynx-: most probably still KDE 3.5.x
[03:50] <VSpike> maniac920: by default the root account is disabled in ubuntu
[03:50] <Jucato> (.7 or .8)
[03:50] <VSpike> maniac920: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:50] <Lynx-> thanks.
[03:50] <Frederick> halo folks anyone here has a vizio mp3 player and can say if it is compatible with linux?
[03:50] <fsckit> Lynx-, as far as i know, it will
[03:51] <jujimufu> double: tu peux essayer #ubuntu-fr
[03:51] <jujimufu> maniac920: you can use the sudo command to execute something as root.
[03:51] <fsckit> Lynx-, Jucato may be right
[03:51] <Jucato> Lynx-, fsckit: most probably there will be an add-on/separate CD for KDE 4 once KDE 4r is releases
[03:51] <maniac920> well but to install FireFox(in my case) i have to run some commands as root. at least thats what my tutorials tell me ( i told you im new to this).
[03:51] <Jucato> the problem is that both KDE 4 and Kubuntu 7.10 are scheduled to be released on Oct 2007
[03:51] <double> jujimufu: jai utliser /list, je pensai pas ke ca marchai sur ce server :)
[03:52] <VSpike> maniac920: then use "sudo apt-get blah blah"
[03:52] <ddaedalus> !fr
[03:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:52] <double> jujimufu: si je fait /list sur ircnet deco imediate :)
[03:52] <VSpike> sudo will run a command with root priviledge.. when it asks for a password, enter your normal login password
[03:52] <ddaedalus> !fr | double
[03:52] <ubotu> double: please see above
[03:52] <jujimufu> brb
[03:52] <double> thx for your help :)
[03:52] <Gtwy> what is that webstat program that is better than webalizer
[03:53] <double> have a goo day all :)
[03:53] <jcolagro> question with ati video card driver
[03:53] <maniac920> yeah  i tried that VSpike but it wont let me type in anything
[03:53] <VSpike> maniac920: if you need to run a graphical program with root privs in KDE, use "kdesu"
[03:53] <fsckit> maniac920, you should use another account and use sudo. it saved my butt a week ago. messed up my settings, it wouldn't boot, but i could boot into recovery/root mode to restore my previous settings
[03:53] <VSpike> maniac920: I don't think you see any typing as you enter the password
[03:53] <dfeser> is there a change in usbfs since feisty?
[03:53] <Jucato> maniac920: when you enter passwords in the command line, you don't really see what you are typing
[03:54] <Jucato> maniac920: it doesn't give you any feedback, like *'s or anything
[03:54] <jcolagro> during installation... ubuntu find the right video driver I have on my laptop ... but it seems that the driver is not correct
[03:54] <jujimufu> double: J'ai juste essay #ubuntu-fr et j'ai vu que c'tait l :)
[03:54] <fsckit> maniac920, once you screw up your root account, it's harder to recover
[03:54] <jcolagro> and I have to change it into a vesa video driver
[03:54] <maniac920> well ok then ill try some of your suggestions. thanks a lot
[03:54] <VSpike> I hope they fix this "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" bug soon
[03:55] <VSpike> jcolagro: ATI ?
[03:55] <jcolagro> yes
[03:55] <mat1980> jcolagro, sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:55] <jcolagro> I did it .. yes ..
[03:55] <VSpike> jcolagro:  The device support of the open driver is not great.  You may need to use the restricted driver
[03:56] <VSpike> jcolagro: "sudo restricted-manager" should do it I think
[03:56] <jujimufu> I apt-got beryl and all its dependencies, and I tried running "beryl manager", but I got this error: "Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled"
[03:56] <jcolagro> thanks ..
[03:57] <jcolagro> I will try
[03:57] <smoze> hello!
[03:57] <jujimufu> hello smoze  :)
[03:57] <smoze> can someone help me with scp?
[03:57] <fsckit> jujimufu, follow this guide for beryl install: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[03:57] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: universe component wtf?
[03:58] <jcolagro> by the way .. is the vesa driver enough ?? Because it looks working with this driver
[03:58] <jujimufu> ddaedalus: I bet that if I write "apt-get install universe" my command line will go like "wtf, it's huuuuuge!" :P
[03:59] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: hmm, okaaaay ;)
[03:59] <VSpike> jcolagro: it will be quiet slow, and you won't have any glx support I think
[03:59] <mat1980> jcolagro, I guess vesa works, but it could be very slow.
[03:59] <ddaedalus> jujimufu: try following the wiki, might help
[03:59] <Filthpig> hmmmmmm
[04:00] <smoze> can someone help me with scp?
[04:00] <Filthpig> does someone have a clue why I don't get new maps in ut2004 even though I've copied them to the correct folders?
[04:00] <jthomas> has anyone had _zero updates_ since their install of Kubuntu 7.04?  My 7.04herd5 had 20 updates just today, but my 7.04 Final has had absolutly none since I installed it on release day...
[04:01] <jthomas> smoze: whats up?
[04:01] <jussi01> jthomas: it probably hasnt needed any...
[04:01] <smoze> it just keeps whining about everything or does nothing :/
[04:01] <jcolagro> an other question ... regarding the version before feisty fawn
[04:01] <fsckit> jthomas, no, but i have fewer weekly updates than i had with 6.10 so far
[04:01] <jthomas> jussi01: but the herd to have 20 packages today?  as of yesterday it should have been at the same level as my home machine...
[04:02] <jthomas> today the Herd5 install had 20 updates; i ssh'ed into my Final machine and it still has zero..
[04:02] <jcolagro> I had every 4 - 5 sec ..  an system error tell me that it couldn't change the cpu frequency .. introducing a lot of lag
[04:02] <jthomas> smoze: that helps not.
[04:03] <jthomas> smoze: what are you trying to copy, from where to where?
[04:03] <smoze> jthomas: a file to remote server
[04:03] <jthomas> smoze: scp /file/path/and/name user@remote.server.com:/file/to/destination
[04:04] <jthomas> smoze: scp /file/path/and/name user@remote.server.com:/path/to/destination
[04:04] <jcolagro> any known issue ?
[04:04] <open-your-eyes> Watch as LA police fire into crowds of protesters. http://one.revver.com/watch/254524  Repost, call your media outlets, take back your country.
[04:05] <jcolagro> and any work around ?
[04:05] <erikja> what is the substitute of force in Kubuntu samba ??
[04:05] <smoze> jthomas: thanks! i forgot :
[04:07] <jthomas> smoze: no problem, pass it forward
[04:07] <erikja> !sanba
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sanba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <erikja> !samba
[04:07] <smoze> jthomas: i will :)
[04:07] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:07] <Jucato> open-your-eyes: please do not post spam in here
[04:11] <aaroncampbell> java can't seem to see my print service.  I get "No Print Service Found." when I try to print.  I tried in jedit and Zend Studio.  I also tried using Sun Java 5 from the repos, and the java that comes with Zend Studio
[04:12] <fsckit> when i put in a cd, would anyone know why when i go to the cdrom directory, i see no files or partial files? is kubuntu not automounting?
[04:12] <jthomas> fsckit: my kubuntu isn't automounting CDs nor DVDs either
[04:13] <jthomas> I've not looked into a fix yet tho :(
[04:13] <_4strO> mine does
[04:13] <jthomas> _4strO: DVDs as well?
[04:13] <jthomas> Video DVDs ?
[04:13] <_4strO> didn't try with DVD
[04:13] <jthomas> mm
[04:13] <jthomas> can you?
[04:13] <_4strO> yep
[04:14] <fsckit> jthomas, no, i have to manually mount
[04:14] <jthomas> fsckit: laaame.  Does anyone know how to fix that?  I've looked into the HAL setup under KDE but it was indeed checkmarked to popup....
[04:15] <_4strO> jthomas: no pb with dvd ;)
[04:15] <jthomas> pb ?
[04:15] <_4strO> problem
[04:15] <fsckit> jthomas, maybe this will work. i'll try it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868
[04:17] <jthomas> fsckit: that looks good, let me know... I'll have to test it at home tho; I don't have a DVD drive here at work
[04:18] <fsckit> jthomas, reading so far, the patch seems to fix it. seems a bug in kde and/or hal recent version
[04:19] <jthomas> fsckit: so where is the update?  i've seriously not had a single update on my 7.04Final install... i am afraid that the bugs are outpacing the fixes and that Ubuntu/Kubuntu devs are getting in over their heads! :(
[04:19] <Skrot> Hi, does anyone know of a howto on how to download the source of a package in the repository, patch the source and then build a .deb package of it?
[04:19] <jthomas> fsckit: I am not saying that YOU should be providing this update :)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> !packaging > Skrot
[04:20] <fsckit> jthomas, http://digilander.libero.it/dr_kabuto/hal/ one place i found to dl hal/patch
[04:21] <epimeth> anybody know anything about changing automount settings?
[04:21] <jthomas> fsckit: i can just dl and install those?  all of them?  and that means I wouldn't have to patch the system?  I really would like to have it fixed properly from my distro tho, not add in 3rd party patches....
[04:21] <dfeser> hey all! wich packages do i need to install a particular kernel?
[04:22] <LjL> dfeser: *install*, or *compile*?
[04:22] <dfeser> LjL just install
[04:23] <fsckit> jthomas, i know what you mean. i'd rather have it in an official update but like you said, the devs may be in over their heads
[04:27] <rdallarmi> hi, has anybody in here experience of sasl autentication using authdeamond?
[04:27] <epimeth> anybody know anything about changing automount settings?  I don't want my ipod mounting to /media/IPODNAME
[04:28] <rdallarmi> ll
[04:28] <fsckit> jthomas, just installed the update. working fantastic so far. that's a relief
[04:28] <LjL> dfeser: linux-image-version and linux-restricted-modules-versions should be enough... but it's not like there's that many kernels available in the repos
[04:29] <fsckit> epimeth, have to edit your /etc/fstab file or i believe there's a couple gui apps out there for it
[04:30] <epimeth>  /etc/fstab isn't automount...
[04:30] <jujimufu> which one's better, runit or initng (instead of the old init)
[04:30] <epimeth> I want to change the automount settings
[04:32] <jthomas> epimeth: automount on bootup, or for devices like USB or DVD/CD ?
[04:32] <jthomas> epimeth: automount for devices id a HAL thing
[04:32] <jthomas> !hal
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <jthomas> !automount
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <jthomas> baah
[04:33] <jthomas> !bogus
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bogus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Toomas> !ping
[04:34] <ubotu> pong
[04:34] <epimeth> jthomas: I know... I guess what I'm asking is how do I change HAL settings?
[04:34] <epimeth> !pong
[04:34] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[04:35] <epimeth> hehehe
[04:35] <Jucato> hm... let's not play with the bot, shall we?
[04:35] <jthomas> epimeth: what device is it?  we just had discussions about DVDs not automounting and it being a bug.  Want me to link you to a fix? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868
[04:36] <dfeser> in which repos are the linux-image and linux-restricted packages?
[04:37] <Jucato> dfeser: main and restricted, respectively
[04:37] <stdin> dfeser: main
[04:37] <stdin> dfeser: and restricted (respectively)
[04:37] <stdin> snap!
[04:37] <Jucato> :)
[04:38] <epimeth> jthomas: its an ipod... it's mounting to /media/IPODNAME.. I want it to mount to /media/ipod
[04:38] <M3phisto> i got a little problem with aRTs... when using it as audio output module in kaffeine, my video and audio are not synch any more (audio behind). anyone an idea (solution)?
[04:39] <andre_pl> does anyone have any tips or tricks for making beryl look better on KDE?  the menu's look terrible and they leave behind little artifacts.
[04:40] <fsckit> andre_pl, not sure what you mean. mine looks great
[04:41] <M3phisto> just tested and my problem (asynchronous playback) is also there when using MPlayer with arts...
[04:41] <trpr> as does mine, although i experience issues with the virtual desktops. i'd like to have a different wallpaper on each cube face
[04:41] <andre_pl> fsckit: looks like its supposed to be a dropshadow around the menus, but they look ugly as sin.
[04:41] <jujimufu> how the heck do I run binaries?
[04:42] <jujimufu> I just downloaded realplayer on .bin, and I tried to run it from a command line and I can't.
[04:42] <Jucato> what kind of binaries?
[04:42] <jthomas> epimeth: not sure and i am sorry but i don't have time to dig for you right now... my own ipod won't even mount with a read/write filesystem (its readonly) and i've not figured that out yet either...
[04:42] <Jucato> jujimufu: are you on edgy or feisty?
[04:42] <kenkku> what package is the user management kcontrol panel?
[04:42] <jujimufu> Jucato: feisty
[04:42] <kenkku> I'm on feisty
[04:42] <Jucato> ah hm...
[04:42] <LjL> jujimufu, AFAIK realplayer is available in Medibuntu
[04:42] <fsckit> andre_pl, either i'm not having that problem or my taste is tacky, looks fine to me
[04:42] <weswh-> I just got a new graphics card and monitor, 1680x1050 screen, running twinview with my old 1280x1024. it's an nvidia 6200, one vga one DVI. when I watch videos full screen on the 1680x1050 screen, there is lots of 'tearing'...when there is a lot of movement especially. doesn't happen at all on the 1280x1024. Any ideas?
[04:42] <LjL> !medibuntu
[04:42] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:42] <Jucato> kenkku: kde-guidance
[04:43] <kenkku> Jucato: thank you
[04:43] <kenkku> it seems to be broken :/
[04:43] <Jucato> kenkku: user management is part of kde-guidance
[04:43] <Filthpig> is there a gaming channel for linux on this network?
[04:43] <LjL> jujimufu: yes, it's available there. use it, don't use plain binaries when there are Ubuntu packages available
[04:43] <jujimufu> LjL: it is available?
[04:43] <LjL> jujimufu: yes, in Medibuntu.
[04:44] <Jucato> jujimufu: see the medibuntu link
[04:44] <jujimufu> !medibuntu
[04:44] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:44] <jujimufu> thank god I am in the EU
[04:44] <LjL> jujimufu: no no heck, my bad... i mixed up distributions. it's not available there for Feisty
[04:44] <jujimufu> oh, LjL, I didn't see the link up there...
[04:44] <andre_pl> fsckit: http://hero.chasec.ca/~andre/snapshot1.png
[04:44] <andre_pl> see the bottom-right corner of the menu?
[04:44] <jujimufu> LjL: baah. Is it available anywhere else?
[04:45] <epimeth> Jucato: you know maybe?
[04:45] <stdin> jujimufu: I just used the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-47044ea04395f5171c964bfc5248e1335e689950
[04:45] <Jucato> epimeth: hm?
[04:45] <stdin> jujimufu: nice and simple
[04:45] <jujimufu> stdin: hey, I remember you :P
[04:45] <stdin> shh, don't tell anyone :p
[04:46] <jujimufu> stdin: but If I am not mistaken, you were on #gentoo. Either that, or on ##linux
[04:46] <jujimufu> :P
[04:46] <LjL> jujimufu: i can find a package on google, however, i cannot say anything about how well it'd work... also, the Edgy package probably works, since i currently still have it installed (and i'm on Feisty now)
[04:46] <jujimufu> LjL: ok, thanks
[04:46] <Jucato> (image loading up slow...... :()
[04:46] <stdin> I've only ever ran gentoo for a week :p
[04:47] <LjL> jujimufu: i'd lean on following the "Install RealPlayer.deb using dkpg" part
[04:47] <Jucato> stdin: too bad...
[04:47] <jujimufu> ok ok, thans
[04:47] <jujimufu> stdin: I remember some other guy too, Quizmos or something like that.
[04:47] <jujimufu> bah, anyway :P
[04:48] <aldin> how can i watch usage of only one process lets say konqueror with 'top' or some other command
[04:48] <fsckit> andre_pl, i see. mine isn't that noticeable but could be my color scheme i'm using. yours doesn't look that bad but would look better if your taskbar was translucent like mine
[04:48] <Filthpig> !games
[04:48] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:49] <fsckit> andre_pl, not my menu but a screenshot of my system: http://www.flickr.com/photos/usp8riot/481871584/
[04:49] <andre_pl> fsckit: under gnome theres nothing like that though, so it seems to me its some sort of bug.
[04:50] <epimeth> Jucato: my ipod automounts to /media/IPODNAME
[04:50] <fsckit> andre_pl, yeah, didn't realize you were running gnome. i assumed kde without looking much since this is kubuntu chat ;)
[04:50] <jujimufu> What packages do I have to download to run wmv and wma video and audio files respectively?
[04:50] <epimeth> Jucato: I want it to mount to /media/ipod
[04:50] <epimeth> Jucato: is there a way for me to change HAL settings?
[04:50] <Jucato> epimeth: ah that I don't know....
[04:50] <kenkku> now this is weird. kde-guidance is in conflict with python2.4-iconvcodec. which I don't have on my system?! :S
[04:51] <fsckit> jujimufu, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty see codec install
[04:52] <epimeth> Jucato: do you know where I might find info on that?
[04:52] <Filthpig> epimeth: since you're working for a SEO, can you help me figure out why on earth I can't see my friend's mod in the maps-list in ut2k4?
[04:52] <andre_pl> fsckit: that was a KDE Screenshot.  I have them both installed.  I usually prefer KDE, but Ubuntu';s gnome impressed me, so I stuck with that for a while,  but I miss konqueror and amarok, and some of the customizability of kde, so I want to come back, but theres still a few things that bug me. like this drop shadow. :P
[04:52] <_4strO> !codecs > jujimufu
[04:52] <Filthpig> *grin*
[04:52] <Filthpig> :D
[04:52] <Jucato> epimeth: hm... Google? :/
[04:53] <jujimufu> !wmv
[04:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:53] <sahin_h> andre_pl: Are you disable two things in the KDE Appearance -> Style -> Effect?
[04:53] <andre_pl> sahin_h: what 2 things?
[04:53] <sahin_h> andre_pl: Menu Drop Shadow and Enable Gui Effects
[04:53] <epimeth> Jucato: the word "scoured" does not begin to describe what I did to find it in google
[04:53] <andre_pl> sahin_h: not yet, but i think that's what I'm looking gor.
[04:54] <Jucato> epimeth: other options would be the bigger #ubuntu channel or dare the #ubuntu-devel channel (not really recommended)
[04:54] <fsckit> andre_pl, about all i've ever used is kde. i tried gnome but could never get used to it so linux to me has always been associated with kde. i like to customize ;)
[04:54] <andre_pl> sahin_h: thanks! :)
[04:55] <sahin_h> Currently I'm not using beryl, however If I rember correctly these are "the two options" what you are looking for.
[04:55] <epimeth> Jucato: lol... I just found a solution... I just wanted it for amarok
[04:55] <epimeth> :-)
[04:55] <sahin_h> andre_pl: np
[04:56] <Jucato> hehok
[04:56] <Jucato> heh ok*
[04:56] <Jucato> gr..can't spell
[04:56] <von> Hello
[04:57] <von> Does someone know the fonts system in Ubuntu??
[04:58] <andre_pl> fsckit: gnome is very much a "just works" setup.  needs pretty much no configuration, where as with KDE I always spend a day or 2 customizng things.  but i end up with something i like better.
[04:59] <sahin_h> I saw some beryl things in this channel today... So here's some news about kwin composite... If somebody interested. ;-)
[04:59] <sahin_h> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2787
[05:00] <andre_pl> also I find that its very easy to end up with an ugly KDE, but in gnome, the themes dont offer much customization, so they usually look pretty good.
[05:00] <sahin_h> Ok. This will be the future.
[05:00] <NiceGuyUK> sahin_h: noted...
[05:02] <fsckit> gnome seems more like windows so i never gave it much of a chance. but yeah, it does take a while to setup KDE if you're picky like me but it's all worth it
[05:02] <NiceGuyUK> I'm happy using either.  Just gotta learn my way around Enlightenment, xvwm, fvwm and all the other little ones now :P
[05:03] <TheInfinity> moinsn
[05:03] <andre_pl> oh, it also seems that in KDE, I dont get the little window previews when I hover over the taskbar.  anyone know a fix for that?
[05:04] <mahdi> configure panel > appearance > mouseover effects
[05:04] <von> Does someone know the fonts system in Ubuntu??
[05:04] <NiceGuyUK> von - can you be more specific?
[05:05] <andre_pl> mahdi: i was referring to the beryl effect actually. the live window previews.
[05:05] <von> NiceGuy: Yes I want to install ams fonts but they re not in all size
[05:06] <NiceGuyUK> hmm...not sure what "ams fonts" are
[05:06] <von> NiceGuy : I've .afm and .pfb files but not for all size, Do you know how to generate them
[05:07] <von> NiceGuy : AMS fonts is american mathematical society fonts
[05:08] <NiceGuyUK> von: not sure, but this link may help
[05:08] <NiceGuyUK> http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/4413
[05:08] <nesha> hey all
[05:08] <von> NiveGuy: I'll check
[05:08] <nesha> does anybody knows how to change KDM theme in kubuntu Feisty?
[05:09] <hakaisou> I was actually wondering how to do that too...
[05:09] <nesha> there isn't any option
[05:09] <nesha> to change it
[05:09] <sparrw> do/can ssh sessions have an inactivity timeout?
[05:10] <NiceGuyUK> !tetex-base
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tetex-base - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <NiceGuyUK> !tetex-extra
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tetex-extra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <NiceGuyUK> !tetex
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tetex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <NiceGuyUK> bah
[05:10] <von> NiceGuy: It seems to be exactly what I need, I'll try
[05:11] <NiceGuyUK> cool
[05:11] <NiceGuyUK> von : see also the packages tetex-base and tetex-extra, which include AMs fonts
[05:13] <Jucato> !changethemes | nesha
[05:13] <ubotu> nesha: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:15] <dromer> hmm, since the upgrade my ssh seems to be very slow, also, synergy over ssh seems not to work atm, I can't connect to my left pc
[05:15] <dromer> !synergy
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <dromer> !synergys
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <dromer> gah
[05:16] <sparr> when i start vncviewer in FullScreen mode, how do i close it or switch out of it?
[05:17] <NiceGuyUK> sparr : I think its CTRL-ALT-SHIFT on left side of keyboard, but its been a long time since I sued it
[05:17] <NiceGuyUK> sued = used
[05:17] <Filthpig> !unreal
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Filthpig> !ut2004
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut2004 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <sparr> NiceGuyUK: no, but thanks
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> sparr : F8 to bring up the menu ?
[05:18] <sparr> aha!
[05:18] <sparr> you rock
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> ;)
[05:19] <NiceGuyUK> my year-old memory of it is better than I thought
[05:20] <dromer> hmm, quicksynergy says synergys is active .. however, I'm running it over ssh with the client running on localhost with: $ ssh -f -N -L 24800:<server>:24800 <server>
[05:21] <realshiva> hi, do someone know a good editor for php with highlight and ftp function?
[05:21] <NiceGuyUK> Quanta Plus, Bluefish ?
[05:21] <stdin> kate should do that too
[05:22] <NiceGuyUK> yup
[05:22] <NiceGuyUK> and nano if you get the .nanorc configured like I did :)
[05:22] <Yorokobi> same for vim
[05:22] <_4strO> emacs too
[05:23] <_4strO> but i still prefer kate :)
[05:23] <NiceGuyUK> I prefer Kate from "Lost" :D
[05:23] <hakaisou> XD
[05:23] <_4strO> hh
[05:23] <hakaisou> question.
[05:23] <realshiva> first i will try quanta
[05:23] <_4strO> the blond one is not so bad
[05:23] <aaroncampbell> java can't seem to see my print service.  I get "No Print Service Found." when I try to print.  I tried in jedit and Zend Studio.  I also tried using Sun Java 5 from the repos, and the java that comes with Zend Studio
[05:23] <hakaisou> I downloaded software to use my Nostromo N52, but I don't know how to install it.
[05:23] <_4strO> juliett
[05:24] <hakaisou> It has a "MakeFile" file inside the folder
[05:24] <realshiva> try make ^^
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> !make
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:24] <jussi01> Can someone point me to a tutorial for installing ubuntu from a usb pendrive? ie. I dont have any cds to burn it to...
[05:24] <Yorokobi> hakaisou: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[05:24] <bobbi> has anyone here got a little time to guide me through a couple of problems?
[05:24] <bobbi> i am a linux noob
[05:24] <TheInfinity> just start asking :)
[05:24] <_4strO> !ask | bobbi
[05:24] <ubotu> bobbi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <bobbi> ty - overwhelmed
[05:25] <ayande> Does anyone know how I can open port in firewall?
[05:25] <_4strO> !iptable | ayande
[05:25] <Yorokobi> ayande: iptables or something else?
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iptable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <TheInfinity> kubuntu has no firewall per default
[05:25] <andre_pl> ok one more question. why do I have 16 viewports when I enable beryl? is that a known issue? is there a workaround?
[05:25] <_4strO> !iptables | ayande
[05:25] <ubotu> ayande: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:25] <ayande> ok i try
[05:26] <bobbi> my xsession error log suggests i need to install kpersonalizer - i have kubuntu
[05:26] <ayande> thanks alot
[05:26] <stdin> jussi01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:26] <Yorokobi> andre_pl: you can change the number of viewports via the config gui
[05:26] <_4strO> TheInfinity: kubuntu like every linux have one ;)
[05:26] <jussi01> thanks stdin
[05:26] <TheInfinity> yes but not configures that it blocks something
[05:26] <alexander> Hello everyone
[05:27] <TheInfinity> of course almost every linux distr. has iptables ;)
[05:27] <hakaisou> thanks, that did it, i think
[05:27] <andre_pl> Yorokobi: its set to 1
[05:27] <bobbi> kpersonalizer does not apparently get installed with kubuntu
[05:27] <bobbi> there seems to be no way to install it either
[05:28] <Yorokobi> andre_pl: what you're looking for isn't called a viewport by beryl ... of course, I don't remember what its called ... its an option or two down from viewports
[05:28] <bobbi> yet my xsession error file tells me i need it
[05:28] <_4strO> bobbi: wich file is it ?
[05:29] <bobbi> 4stro i'll check
[05:29] <Jucato> bobbi: it isn't installed  by default and shouldn't be required anyway. not sure why you are getting errors
[05:30] <stdin> !info kpersonalizer
[05:30] <ubotu> kpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 (feisty), package size 490 kB, installed size 808 kB
[05:30] <bobbi> error is:
[05:30] <bobbi> startkde: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to properly configure your user.
[05:30] <hakaisou> ok then, it's installed, now how to I launch the program?
[05:31] <Yorokobi> ~
[05:31] <Yorokobi> oops
[05:31] <andre_pl> Yorokobi:now i have no cube at all. just 1 dektop :S
[05:31] <Yorokobi> andre_pl: the default is 4
[05:31] <bobbi> after the error message i get a load of lines of errors
[05:32] <Jucato> hm..that's weird...
[05:32] <Jucato> it shouldn't be asking for kpersonalizer
[05:32] <bobbi> i can't find kpersonalizer in add remove programs
[05:32] <stdin> bobbi: look in adept
[05:33] <andre_pl> Yorokobi: number of desktops: 1, Horiz & vert virtual size each set to 4. that gives me a working cube but the pager and window manager tell me I have > 20 viewport.
[05:33] <Yorokobi> andre_pl: sounds like a problem with the pager
[05:33] <andre_pl> Yorokobi: also happens when I click the icon in the top left of the window and choose Viewports -> there are 20 options.
[05:34] <bobbi>  stdin i've just had a thought - it might be relevant
[05:34] <bobbi> i installed aptoncd and that seemed to bring synaptic along with it
[05:35] <david__> join  kubuntu-es
[05:35] <david__> o no
[05:35] <bobbi> could that be why its asking for personalizer?
[05:35] <stdin> bobbi: don't think so
[05:35] <david__> #kubuntu-es
[05:35] <bobbi> o
[05:36] <david__> how i join to kubunto spanish?
[05:36] <david__> help me please
[05:36] <david__> kubuntu spanish
[05:36] <stdin> david__: type: /join #kubuntu-es
[05:36] <realshiva> click on this: #kubuntu-es
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> david__: /join #kubuntu-eis
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> er -es
[05:36] <bobbi> how can i or even should i install kpersonalizer?
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what he said
[05:36] <david__> thanks
[05:37] <david__> thanks
[05:37] <jujimufu> hey, I ran the beryl manager. How do I enable the effects now?
[05:37] <realshiva> bobbi: sudo apt-get install kpersonalizer
[05:37] <bobbi> will sudo install work? to install kpersonalizer?
[05:37] <bobbi> ok i'll try that
[05:38] <von> NiceGuy : I've generated a fonts.scale but I'm not sure what to do with it?
[05:38] <hakaisou> !fltk
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fltk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <llutz> hi
[05:39] <bobbi> realshiva: thats got it running - now i'll see if it tidies up my error file - ty
[05:40] <rdallarmi> hi, I am having problems in sending mail, I get the error "SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure"  bur I am able to test the username password successfully using authtest. in my smtpd.conf , I havepwcheck_method: authdaemond; I am about to get lost,how can I check authdeamond is actually invoked and with what username/password?
[05:41] <realshiva> rdallarmi: you confused me ...
[05:41] <realshiva> rdallarmi: what do you want to do?
[05:44] <epimeth> how would I do a search-replace from the command line?
[05:45] <epimeth> I find exactly what I want using grep...
[05:45] <stdin> sed
[05:45] <llutz> epimeth: awk/sed or perl
[05:46] <epimeth> how do I use sed?
[05:46] <epimeth> and can I do it for mass files?
[05:46] <bobbi> well i've run through kpersonalizer - nothing needed altering
[05:47] <bobbi> my windows decorations seem to have changed and its reporting i'm running i686
[05:47] <bobbi> i didn't ask it to change my windows decoration and my system is i386
[05:49] <stdin> epimeth: eg: sed -i 's/pattern/replacement/g' /path/to/file
[05:50] <stdin> epimeth: that will replace all "pattern" with "replacement" in /path/to/file
[05:50] <bobbi> i'm gonna try restarting pc to see if it sorts itself out
[05:50] <llutz> epimeth: for mass files use "find ... -exec sed ..." or perl
[05:51] <stdin> or for i in `ls`;do sed ....;done
[05:51] <stdin> there are a few ways
[05:51] <llutz> or this ^^ :)
[05:53] <killermach_> hey all.. I've been using 6.01 and 6.10, and upgraded to 7.04, however a clean install of 7.04, I cannot get adobe flash 9 installed, maybe I don't have the right repository? something else?
[05:54] <stdin> killermach_: what errors do you get? you just install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:55] <Jucato> killermach_: flashplugin-nonfree package
[05:56] <dac_> jisao,hi
[05:58] <killermach_> stdin: I only get firefox message that I have to do manual download and there is no .deb on Adobe
[05:58] <stdin> killermach_: have you tried installing the package? from adept/apt
[05:59] <killermach_> in adept manager I search "nonfree" and no flash .. I must be missing a repository
[05:59] <killermach_> can someone check and tell me what repository flashplugin-nonfree is in?
[05:59] <stdin> killermach_: in feisty all repos are enabled
[05:59] <jthomas> killermach_: search for Flash in there...
[06:00] <stdin> killermach_: just try opening konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[06:00] <jthomas> anyone know how to get Kommando working?  i can 'start' it but once I have it set up and click [OK]  then it goes away and I cannot launch it...
[06:00] <killermach_> stdin: hmm.. ok.. this may help, I'm installed from kubuntu_7.04-desktop_amd64.iso
[06:00] <killermach_> stdin: ok
[06:00] <stdin> killermach_: ahh, amd64
[06:00] <stdin> killermach_: yeah, there isn't a 64bit version
[06:01] <stdin> killermach_: you have to do it the "other" way
[06:01] <stdin> !flash64 | killermach_
[06:01] <ubotu> killermach_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:01] <jthomas> nope no 64bit Flash, write Adobe a letter like the rest of us
[06:01] <killermach_> Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[06:01] <crimsun> killermach_: enable multiverse.
[06:02] <ubuntu> hi, i quickly booted an kubuntu livecd to check a malfunctioning computer, is there any tool for linux to check the hdd's
[06:02] <ubuntu> smart and scan ?
[06:02] <stdin> crimsun: 1. it already is, 2. it's not available on amd64
[06:02] <crimsun> stdin: ah, I'm missing scrollback for his $arch
[06:03] <SubOne> How do I active the "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool"
[06:04] <theclash> ciao a tutti ho un problema con apache2 e php5 potreste aiutarmi??
[06:04] <SubOne> theclash: Sorry, I don't speak (french?)
[06:05] <stdin> SubOne: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a
[06:05] <manchicken> !it@theclash
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it@theclash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <manchicken> !it @ theclash
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it @ theclash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <manchicken> !it
[06:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:05] <manchicken> there we go.
[06:05] <stdin> manchicken: it's: !it | name
[06:05] <manchicken> SubOne: That was Italian
[06:05] <stdin> not @
[06:05] <killermach_> stdin: ok.. I just built a new workstation Athlon64 AM2 Dual-core w/ 4GB RAM, I installed 64bit kubuntu to make use of all the ram, should I just go back to 3GB ram?
[06:05] <manchicken> stdin: Too many damned bots.
[06:06] <SubOne> stdin: I don't have that menu option
[06:08] <killermach_> stdin: am I going to continue to run into 64bit issues?
[06:09] <stdin> killermach_: things like flash, w32codecs and wine don't run (easily) on amd64
[06:10] <SubOne> How do I active the "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool", I'm following this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php but it is not working.
[06:11] <sonic> anyone have any experience with vmplayer and dual boot in kubuntu with windows
[06:11] <killermach_> stdin: hmm.. one of the reasons for the 4GB RAM is to run VMware, Parallels, or Xen, I think I can load FedoraCore6 w/ Xen as 64bit Host OS, then load other OS's in 32bit.. this may be better
[06:12] <sonic> and for some reason my drives are setup as dev/sda  but I am not using SCSI
[06:12] <killermach_> sonic: sata uses sda
[06:13] <stdin> killermach_: just looked about a bit, and 32bit linux can support (up to) 4GB ram, so you should be able to use the x86 version
[06:13] <stdin> sonic: in feisty?
[06:13] <sonic> yeah
[06:13] <stdin> sonic: that's normal
[06:13] <sonic> feisty
[06:14] <sonic> ok cause I know I was IDE / hda for years and now its sda
[06:14] <killermach_> stdin: you are correct.. I forgot about it, a default install only uses 3.2GB, I need to pass kernel option in grub.. thanks :)
[06:14] <stdin> sonic: all (well most) IDE (pata) devices are now emulated as sata
[06:15] <killermach_> sonic: I have an HP Pavillion a712n here also.. it's an IDE drive and fdisk -l, and df show it as /dev/sda
[06:16] <killermach_> sonic: and this HP doesn't support sata or scsi in hardware
[06:17] <sonic> ok, thats prob why Im confused
[06:17] <sonic> cause vmware is having issues loading Windows.  blue screen with hard disk configuation errors
[06:17] <sonic> so I got to thinking that might be a cause
[06:17] <sonic> if they dont agree on my hardware
[06:19] <sonic> killermach: thanks for clearing that up for me.  Im gonna see if the vmware people are around in #vmware
[06:20] <jujimufu> hey guys, does anyone know a very customizable and preferably free blog hosting site?
[06:22] <dedani> tyu56
[06:24] <jusama14> can someone help me use xmame? i installed it through package manager but I don't know how to use it.
[06:26] <stdin> jusama14: try kxmame
[06:26] <stdin> !info kxmame
[06:26] <ubotu> kxmame: A KDE frontend for xmame emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0~beta-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 378 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[06:26] <jusama14> well the thing is, i'm running ubuntu and no one knows on that
[06:26] <SubOne> Does nobody know how to upgrade to Fiesty>
[06:27] <Filthpig> !feisty
[06:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:27] <bobbi> my xsession error file asked me to install and run kpersonalizer - i did this - now my i386 machine is being reported as i686
[06:27] <SubOne> Filthpig: I don't have that menu item.
[06:27] <bobbi> is a re install my best option?
[06:28] <Filthpig> ?
[06:28] <Filthpig> what meny item?
[06:28] <bobbi> before you ask i installed feisty from a i386 cd
[06:28] <SubOne> Filthpig: and the "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended" does nothing for me
[06:28] <Filthpig> menu*
[06:29] <Filthpig> bobbi: and does that give any problems?
[06:29] <SubOne> Filthpig: it just keeps telling me to close the update manager and run the "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool"
[06:29] <bobbi> filthpig: i'm a noob at all this i just don't know
[06:30] <Filthpig> bobbi: it doesn't matter :] 
[06:30] <bobbi> filthpig: i guess if its giving me wrong info then it won't be working right
[06:30] <Filthpig> it's x86, so it doesn't matter
[06:31] <bobbi> filthpig: ok - ty
[06:31] <Filthpig> SubOne: which version are you upgrading from?
[06:31] <Filthpig> 6.10 or 6.06?
[06:31] <SubOne> Filthpig: I run Adept, I click fetch updates, upgrade wizard pops up. i click next, get change...
[06:32] <SubOne> Filthpig: how do i find out
[06:33] <stdin> !version | SubOne
[06:33] <ubotu> SubOne: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:34] <SubOne> 6.10
[06:34] <Filthpig> well
[06:34] <Filthpig> then following the Kubuntu upgrade howto should be piece of cake..
[06:35] <SubOne> Filthpig: Do you think I'd be asking if that was working?
[06:35] <Filthpig> what's the problem, then?
[06:35] <SubOne> It is not working...
[06:35] <alex__> Hi everyone !
[06:36] <stdin> SubOne: you can try "sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:36] <Filthpig> have you done everything according to the guide?
[06:36] <stdin> in konsole
[06:36] <SubOne> Filthpig: yes, over and over and over
[06:36] <SubOne> stdin: let me try
[06:36] <SubOne> stdin: command not found
[06:37] <jthomas> !kommando
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kommando - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <jthomas> !kommando
[06:37] <jthomas> nope no 64bit Flash, write Adobe a letter like the rest of us
[06:37] <jthomas> baah
[06:37] <jthomas> anyone know how to get Kommando working?  i can 'start' it but once I have it set up and click [OK]  then it goes away and I cannot launch it...
[06:37] <jujimufu> hey, I ran the beryl manager. How do I enable the effects now?
[06:37] <stdin> SubOne: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, and update-manager-core
[06:37] <jujimufu> jthomas: press Ctrl+Alt+H
[06:37] <jthomas> nothing happens
[06:38] <jthomas> jujimufu: nada
[06:38] <jujimufu> jthomas: you might want to download imwheel and set it up to pop-up on a mouse click, assuming you have an extra mouse button which you don't use. But I don't know how to do that personally, you'll have to check with imwheel's tutorials, and possibly forum threads.
[06:38] <kishan> hi there i have a problem i am unable to set my time automatically ..it says unable to connect to north.america.pool.ntp.org.
[06:38] <SubOne> aparently kubuntu-desktop is not installed (according to the package manager) what doe sit do
[06:38] <gdiebel> will someone do me a favor and hit up calendar.google.com ?
[06:38] <stdin> SubOne: makes sure all the needed packages are installed
[06:39] <SubOne> why wouldnt that be installed from the initial installation of kubuntu
[06:39] <kishan> i am able to update time in gnome but not in kde can any one help me please
[06:39] <stdin> kishan: try north-america.pool.ntp.org (not north.america.pool.ntp.org)
[06:40] <stdin> SubOne: it was
[06:40] <SubOne> stdin: well then it should be installed
[06:40] <kishan> stdin: yes i tried it too its not working can u help please
[06:40] <aaroncampbell> What do these permissions mean: drwx-wx-wt
[06:40] <aaroncampbell> I don't recognize the t
[06:41] <SubOne> stdin: I mean I did uninstall some thing like Konversation and Kopete, maybe that effects the metapackage?
[06:41] <stdin> kishan: north-america.pool.ntp.org does work, I just tried it
[06:41] <Filthpig> SubOne: yes
[06:41] <stdin> SubOne: yeah, that would
[06:41] <aaroncampbell> seems like a directory that is o+rwx g+wx and a+w and what is the t?
[06:41] <Filthpig> I've seen that myself, if you unistall kopete etc it also removes kubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <SubOne> well then it was installed i would guess but i reinstalled both... testing
[06:41] <kishan> stdin: for me it not working can u tell me why..i recently installed feisty fawn
[06:42] <stdin> kishan: try "sudo ntpdate north-america.pool.ntp.org"
[06:42] <SubOne> nope same result
[06:42] <SubOne> its nope upgrading
[06:43] <kishan> stdin:3 May 12:42:38 ntpdate[9526] : the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[06:43] <SubOne> it says it doanloaded the upgrade tool, how can i run it from the command line
[06:43] <kishan> it gives this i just moved from eastern to pacfic zone
[06:43] <SubOne> stdin: ran that command now its doing something
[06:43] <stdin> kishan: some NTP app is running
[06:43] <SubOne> i got a 301 error :(
[06:44] <stdin> aaroncampbell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_permissions#Symbolic_notation_and_additional_permission
[06:44] <Filthpig> SubOne: with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:44] <SubOne> Filthpig: no thats done
[06:44] <Filthpig> ok
[06:44] <SubOne>  sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:44] <Filthpig> and it says done?
[06:44] <SubOne> that fails
[06:44] <Filthpig> what message?
[06:44] <kishan> stdin: i am newbie what are other ntp applicaton..i have just skype ..firefox kopete and thats all
[06:44] <SubOne> Error during update
[06:44] <SubOne> A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry.
[06:44] <SubOne> Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/edgy/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently
[06:45] <aaroncampbell> stdin: thanks, I found out that it means "sticky"
[06:45] <stdin> SubOne: use an official repo
[06:45] <SubOne> stdin: I have no idea how to do that, you just gave me that command :p
[06:45] <stdin> kishan: try a logout and back in, then try the server again
[06:45] <SubOne> I'm just confused why the steps outlined on that site didnt work
[06:46] <SubOne> it just keeps telling me to close adept package manager and run the "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool"
[06:46] <stdin> SubOne: you are using  http://theli.free.fr/ as an apt repository, use a official one
[06:46] <kishan> stdin: i have ubuntu too i mean gnome is there some to do with it i am able to get my time zone right in gnome
[06:47] <Filthpig> SubOne: open /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out all unofficial sites and uncomment all official sites
[06:47] <Filthpig> update
[06:47] <Filthpig> and try again
[06:47] <SubOne> Filthpig: there are none commented out
[06:48] <Filthpig> ok
[06:48] <SubOne> And I have no idea what constitutes an "unofficial" repo
[06:48] <SubOne> I disabled that one though
[06:49] <stdin> SubOne: all official repos are in the form of http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ (where XX is your country code, eg us, fr, gb...)
[06:49] <SubOne> Error during update
[06:49] <SubOne> A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry.
[06:49] <SubOne> Failed to fetch http://theli.free.fr/packages/dists/edgy/listen/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently
[06:49] <Filthpig> all those who are something else than *.ubuntu.com are unofficial
[06:49] <SubOne> oops forgot to apply sorry
[06:50] <llutz> Filthpig: canonical.com is unofficial? ;)
[06:50] <Filthpig> llutz: I don't have any canonical links :p
[06:50] <stdin> llutz: actually, it's an official unofficial one :p
[06:50] <Filthpig> only ubuntu
[06:51] <SubOne> i think thats working
[06:51] <SubOne> is that why it wouldnt start in adept because i had that one repo?
[06:51] <Filthpig> yes
[06:52] <SubOne> ah ok
[06:52] <SubOne> well its running in command line now anyway, ty
[06:54] <lori> hi everybody ..
[06:54] <dwidmann> hi
[06:55] <SubOne> hi
[06:56] <raylu> !hi
[06:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:56] <raylu> i win :D
[06:56] <Tm_T> you win what?
[06:56] <raylu> m........
[06:56] <raylu> i'll figure that out soon.
[06:56] <SubOne> He wins another beer!
[06:57] <raylu> yeah. that.
[06:57] <jujimufu> hey guys, I apt-got beryl, installed just fine, and now I have the beryl manager open. How do I enable the effects?
[06:57] <Filthpig> BEER
[06:57] <SubOne> Go for the record!
[06:57] <raylu> jujimufu, ctrl+alt+click
[06:57] <lori> sorry for my english .. its very poor .. i have an asus A6RP with kubuntu and my infrared device dont work .. can somebody help me with that? thax
[06:57] <Filthpig> jujimufu: have you enabled the Beryl WM?
[06:57] <Tm_T> jujimufu: #ubuntu-effects might help further
[06:57] <raylu> I recognize that name... are you korean, jujimufu
[06:59] <Filthpig> !IR
[06:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.
[06:59] <Filthpig> oh
[06:59] <Filthpig> heh!
[06:59] <Filthpig> !infrared
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <Filthpig> !infra
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <jujimufu> raylu: lol no
[06:59] <jujimufu> Filthpig: how to I enable it?
[07:00] <Filthpig> jujimufu: you have the diamond-icon on your taskbar, right?
[07:00] <jujimufu> Filthpig: nope. Do I have to run Emerald Theme?
[07:00] <Filthpig> no
[07:00] <jujimufu> *Theme Manager
[07:01] <jujimufu> then how do I get beryl up?
[07:01] <lori> ubotu: ok, thanx ..
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thanx .. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Filthpig> try hitting ctrl alt backspace
[07:01] <Filthpig> it will restart kde
[07:01] <lori> hehe
[07:01] <Graham> lori: ubotu is a bot :P
[07:01] <lori> jeje .. i have just realized that, he
[07:01] <Graham> Filthpig: No, it restarts X
[07:02] <Filthpig> Graham: yaddayadda :] 
[07:02] <Graham> 2 different things.
[07:02] <Filthpig> yeah
[07:02] <Graham> Onto matters, what's a good p2p program?
[07:03] <Filthpig> limewire is supposed to work for linux, but I haven't managed to get it working
[07:03] <Filthpig> !limewire
[07:03] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:03] <Filthpig> there we go
[07:03] <stdin> !p2p | Graham
[07:03] <ubotu> Graham: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:04] <lori> filthpig:  try dc++
[07:04] <Filthpig> lori: I'm using valknut, really
[07:04] <Filthpig> "using"
[07:04] <Graham> Other than limewire.
[07:04] <Filthpig> I have it installed :p
[07:04] <Filthpig> Graham: valknut
[07:04] <jujimufu> Filthpig: that was good, only that I still don't get that little diamond on my tray.
[07:04] <lori> anybody from slovakia? :-)
[07:05] <llutz> why don't udev-rules (KERNEL=="tun", GROUP="vboxusers", MODE="0660") affect creation/rights/permission on /dev/net/tun ? :(
[07:05] <lori> filthpig: and? dont like it?
[07:06] <rlj> i'm seeing some weird behavior after i upgraded from edgy to feisty. upon resuming from suspend2ram, my keyboard and trackpad are dead. plugging in a usb mouse or kb works fine though and the computer is otherwise fine. it used to work in edgy just fine. i'm on a hp zv6000 laptop. any ideas?
[07:06] <Filthpig> lori: IF i download something, I use bittorrents
[07:06] <jujimufu> Filthpig: so, how do I run beryl?
[07:07] <Filthpig> hmm
[07:07] <Filthpig> ask the guys at #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[07:07] <jujimufu> thanks
[07:10] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i set dvorak keyboard layout?
[07:11] <the_hammer> hey all
[07:11] <the_hammer> although im running ubuntu 7.04 im using the kde desktop in it
[07:11] <the_hammer> and im seeking help/information
[07:11] <pvandewyngaerde> just ask
[07:12] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/468962 is what i get when i try to play checss
[07:12] <pvandewyngaerde> the_hammer: what video card do you have ?
[07:13] <the_hammer> ive opened synaptic and searched for GtkGLExt and also this pyopengl and installed everything it listed
[07:13] <pvandewyngaerde> try glxgears
[07:13] <pvandewyngaerde> if it runs
[07:13] <the_hammer> nvidia ge-force 7600 gs
[07:14] <pvandewyngaerde> did you install proprietary nivdia drivers ? you need them i guess
[07:14] <stdin> pvandewyngaerde: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout, change the "Layout variant" to dvorak
[07:14] <the_hammer> when i searched synaptic for that just now says this Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[07:14] <the_hammer> and its installed
[07:15] <aaroncampbell> I'm finishing setting up PHP5, and I see that I can't send mail with it.  What is the easiest way to add this?  Install sendmail from the repos?  Maybe postfix?  Any suggestions?
[07:15] <stdin> !away > |ericsson||away|
[07:15] <pvandewyngaerde> thx
[07:16] <the_hammer> whats the command to show u what drivers ya got again
[07:17] <the_hammer> something | grep or soemthing isnt it?
[07:17] <the_hammer> or is it lspci?
[07:17] <bicareloaded> nadie aki habla espaol??
[07:18] <the_hammer> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS]  (rev                                                                             a1)
[07:18] <the_hammer> is from lspci
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[07:23] <Floojah> hello?
[07:23] <stdin> the_hammer: looks like you need libgtkglext1 and python-openg
[07:23] <stdin> * libgtkglext1 and python-opengl
[07:26] <the_hammer> stdin i search synaptic and says thats already installed
[07:27] <Floojah> could anyone help me please?
[07:27] <stdin> !ask
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:27] <Floojah> ok
[07:28] <Floojah> i'm very new to kubuntu and i have just downloaded a CD image, and i was wondering how do you make a CD from this?
[07:29] <stdin> Floojah: from windows, or kubuntu ?
[07:29] <Floojah> from windows
[07:29] <Floojah> i'm hoping to put kubuntu on my laptop
[07:30] <stdin> Floojah: do you want some text instructions, or a video explaining and showing how?
[07:30] <Floojah> stdin: video please if it's not too much bother
[07:31] <stdin> Floojah: no problem, Alan Pope has made a screencast to show users how to do this, it's here http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Downloading_and_Burning_an_Ubuntu_ISO
[07:31] <ashlon> Hi, whats the command to add the ubuntu-desktop to my kubuntu?
[07:31] <Floojah> thank you very much
[07:31] <stdin> ashlon: either install "ubuntu-desktop" from adept, or do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:31] <stdin> Floojah: no problem :)
[07:32] <DexterF> hi
[07:33] <stdin> !hi
[07:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:33] <DexterF> I just installed 7.04 in vmware, installed vmtools, still can't change resolution or have the mouse move outside the vm
[07:33] <DexterF> any pointers?
[07:33] <stdin> DexterF: did you restart after installing vmware-tools?
[07:33] <DexterF> yup.
[07:34] <stdin> hmm, how did you install it?
[07:35] <DexterF> adept. and I just see in the file list, there's only a bunch of files in /usr/share/doc
[07:36] <stdin> DexterF: go to the VM \ Install VMware Tools menu within your virutal machine
[07:36] <stdin> DexterF: then follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware#head-e8a244d2b03ef26f4f9d469dc4e7b729a89147b5
[07:36] <DexterF> tried that, didn't do a thing at all. guess i'll do it old school and mount the iso images that comes with vmtools
[07:38] <jshewey> Trying to set up beryl. Followed instructions on the WIKI. It installs OK. When I run beryl manager, It loads to the tray. No pretty effects though. Do I need to enable something/how would I start troubleshooting? Syslog? xorg.0.log?
[07:38] <max_> slt all
[07:38] <Yorokobi> jshewey: right-click the beryl icon, switch window managers
[07:39] <ashlon> Hi all, whats the command to install a ubuntu desktop?  I have kubuntu
 right click on it down by clock and select window manager choose beryl
[07:40] <DexterF> stdin: duh. didn't see the desktop icon with the vmtools image. ok, thanks :)
[07:40] <jshewey> Ok... now today, beryl-manager does not start when I run it... Hm. It did last night.
[07:40] <stdin> ashlon: either install "ubuntu-desktop" from adept, or do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (again)
[07:40] <stdin> DexterF: np :)
[07:40] <ashlon> stdin, thanks, sorry i got disconnected the first time
[07:40] <jshewey> Ok. Now it's started.
[07:41] <the_hammer> well im not sure then but if its beryl ya need help with pop into #beryl and ask away in there
[07:41] <the_hammer> wont find to much help with beryl here been there done that
[07:41] <jshewey> Thx.
[07:41] <the_hammer> :)
[07:43] <jshewey> Ok. Looks like it is trying to use aiglx instead of xgl.
[07:45] <blekos> hi i am looking for a *complete* backup program (with scheduling, incremental etc)
[07:45] <jshewey> Use rsync with cron.
[07:45] <Yorokobi> blekos: bacula is another option
[07:46] <blekos> since i am newbie in linux i'd need smg with gui... rsync doesnt have gui right?
[07:46] <ashlon> stdin, do you know the command to get the update for the new kernel?
[07:47] <stdin> ashlon: what version?
[07:48] <ashlon> stdin, 2.6.21
[07:48] <neverblue> im having an issue with an apache install, I have both apache2 and apache-perl, how can I get rid of apache2 AND apache-perl entirely?
[07:48] <stdin> ashlon: 2.6.21 isn't available yet (on feisty)
[07:49] <ashlon> stdin, oh ok  what would be the command for when it is ready?
[07:49] <sparr> [how]  can i make x11vnc ignore the state of my server's keyboard capslock?  [how]  can i make vncviewer not auto-adjust quality based on bandwidth?
[07:49] <stdin> ashlon: it will show as an update in adept when it's out
[07:49] <stdin> neverblue: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 apache-perl
[07:50] <ashlon> stdin, thank you
[07:50] <stdin> :)
[07:50] <neverblue> stdin, does that remove dependants/dependancies?
[07:50] <neverblue> and .conf files?
[07:52] <stdin> neverblue: it will remove the .conf files, and "sudo apt-get autoremove" will get rid of dependencies. aptitude may do a better job of it tho. "sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache-perl"
[07:53] <LasseP> ff is crashing when I try add bookmark or download file in kde, hawing ubuntu Feisty and installed kde, works fine in gnome any suggestions?
[07:53] <neverblue> stdin, i was thinking that i needed to remove php5, etc as well
[07:54] <stilgar> hi
[07:54] <stdin> neverblue: aptitude may do that
[07:54] <neverblue> i really dont want to mess up my system
[07:54] <neverblue> thanks for the help
[07:56] <Filthpig> huh
[07:57] <Filthpig> what kind of image format is *.uif?
[07:57] <neverblue> lets see if this "maybe" is true then
[07:58] <stdin> Filthpig: some compressed iso format
[07:58] <Filthpig> hmm
[07:58] <stdin> Filthpig: use MagicISO (under wine) to decompress it
[07:59] <Sanne> Filthpig: some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Image_Format
[07:59] <stdin> Filthpig: here's a like for ya: http://filext.com it tells you what apps open what file extentions
[07:59] <pacman> I screwed up...I wanted to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04, and I was told I had to upgrade to 6.10 first
[08:00] <pacman> so the directions I got told me to change some settings in my sources.list, and that's where I screwed up...anyhow I think I might have to sources.list
[08:00] <pacman> errr....two sources.list
[08:01] <simoux> hi
[08:01] <simoux> i have a problem
[08:01] <Filthpig> !uif
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <pacman> So anyhow when I try and open it, I'm getting a message that says:  Found a swap file by the name "/etc/apt/.sources.list.swp"
[08:02] <pacman> and it gives me some probable causes...anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:03] <Sanne> !ask | simoux
[08:03] <ubotu> simoux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:04] <hakaisou> !wine
[08:04] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:05] <neverblue> stdin, do you think I would need to remove/reinstall php before I put apache back on?
[08:05] <stdin> neverblue: no, you shouldn't have to
[08:05] <neverblue> k
[08:05] <neverblue> thanks
[08:06] <LasseP> wanted to give kde a try since most apps I uses is KDE anyway.. and it feels much faster
[08:08] <excitatory> hey.. i'm attempting to compile an application, and the configure is erroring with the following message: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!  Does this mean i need an x11-dev package or something?
[08:08] <hakaisou> !repository
[08:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:08] <stdin> excitatory: yeah, you need xorg-dev
[08:09] <excitatory> stdin: damn, that's a lot of dependencies!  thank you :D
[08:09] <hakaisou> where is the sources file for repositories?
[08:09] <excitatory> hakaisou: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:09] <hakaisou> thanks
[08:10] <stdin> excitatory: if it's a KDE/Qt app, then you'll need kde-devel too (also a lot of dependencies)
[08:10] <ZachClark0331> AHHHH i cannot install Wine
[08:10] <excitatory> stdin: it's a kicker applet (taskbar-compiz)  so perhaps.
[08:10] <excitatory> yea, you're right.
[08:10] <ZachClark0331> WHYYYY, for the love of god....why isnt it installing right
[08:11] <Filthpig> ZachClark0331: how are you installing it?
[08:11] <jujimufu> are there any filetypes that kaffeine plays and mplayer doesn't?
[08:12] <ZachClark0331> i dont know im new to linux and stuff, i have ubuntu 7.04
[08:12] <ZachClark0331> and i did the walk through and its confusing as heck
[08:12] <stdin> jujimufu: no
[08:12] <stdin> jujimufu: or, not with the right codecs installed
[08:12] <Filthpig> ZachClark0331: what walkthrough?
[08:12] <ZachClark0331> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Wine&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine
[08:12] <ZachClark0331> and multiple ones too
[08:13] <stdin> ZachClark0331: just do: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[08:13] <stdin> ZachClark0331: unless you are on amd64, then it won't work
[08:13] <Filthpig> stdin: He'll probably have to add the wine repos first?
[08:13] <stdin> Filthpig: no, it's in universe
[08:14] <Sanne> ZachClark0331: you may also read this, for an introduction how to install software in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[08:14] <jujimufu> stdin: so, I can remove kaffeine for all I care, if I have mplayer and the respective codecs installed.
[08:14] <Filthpig> are you sure? I had to add the wine repos to get it
[08:14] <Filthpig> the newest ones, at least
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> i get this
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> Reading package lists... Done
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> Building dependency tree
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> Reading state information... Done
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> wine is already the newest version.
[08:14] <ZachClark0331> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:14] <stdin> jujimufu: you can, but that will remove kubuntu-desktop package, which you'll need when it's time to upgrade to 7.10
[08:15] <Filthpig> !pastebin | ZachClark0331
[08:15] <ubotu> ZachClark0331: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <stdin> ZachClark0331: and wine is already installed then
[08:15] <ZachClark0331> sorry bout that
[08:15] <ZachClark0331> i try to install steam.msi
[08:15] <ZachClark0331> and it doesnt work
[08:15] <ZachClark0331> how do i get c:\
[08:15] <jujimufu> stdin: can't I just remove kaffeine without removing its dependencies?
[08:16] <zero-red> you can not use MSI fils in a wine prrrogram
[08:16] <stdin> ZachClark0331: Kmenu -> Utilities -> Wine File
[08:17] <zero-red> tary to find a "exe" fils
[08:17] <stdin> jujimufu: kubuntu-desktop depends on kaffeine, so it would be removed too
[08:18] <Filthpig> btw, ZachClark0331, I think you might have to use cedega for steam to work
[08:19] <ubuntu> test
[08:19] <chijin> test
[08:19] <Filthpig> ubuntu: test succeeded
[08:19] <jujimufu> stdin: baaah...
[08:19] <jujimufu> stdin: I'd like to get rid of some of the programs that kubuntu comes with.
[08:19] <arch01> test
[08:20] <jujimufu> arch01: nobody can see what you're typing. Try changing your settings and type again.
[08:20] <stdin> ZachClark0331: open konsole and type "msiexec steam.msi" if it's called steam.msi
[08:20] <arch01> hello how can i ask somebody for help here
[08:20] <jujimufu> arch01: you just ask the question, and if there's anyone who knows how to help, they will help.
[08:20] <stdin> !ask | arch01
[08:20] <ubotu> arch01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:21] <jujimufu> LOL
[08:21] <jujimufu> who made that entry? :D
[08:21] <arch01> alrite
[08:21] <Sanne> jujimufu: you can remove packages without their dependencies. apt-get does this, aptitude will usually remove dependencies also. The dependants will get removed in any case, however.
[08:21] <arch01> just a newbie
[08:21] <jujimufu> Sanne: thanks :)
[08:21] <Sanne> jujimufu: you're welcome :)
[08:21] <ZachClark0331> is there a free cedega
[08:21] <Filthpig> no
[08:22] <arch01> anyway just installed the new ubuntu...I installed everything but....after i upgraded the nvidia drivers and rebooted i get a reddish black screen
[08:22] <stdin> Sanne, jujimufu: kubuntu-desktop isn't a dependency of kaffeine, kaffeine is a dependency of kubuntu-desktop. so that won't work
[08:22] <Sanne> ZachClark0331: you can install an msi file under wine with msiexec, if I remember correctly.
[08:22] <Filthpig> how did you install the drivers, arch01?
[08:24] <Sanne> stdin: so removing kaffeine will remiove kubuntu-desktop, but that's ok, since it's only a metapackage with lots of dependencies, which won't get removed also when using apt-get.
[08:24] <llutz> jujimufu: always add "-s" to aptitude commands to see what might happen.
[08:24] <arch01> first i installed them when I was asked to enable them from the pop up in the top task bar...then it downloaded I guess the 9631 nvidia files and installed
[08:24] <arch01> but after restart i can only c the black screen
[08:24] <stdin> Sanne: but he'll need to reinstall it to upgrade to 7.10 when it comes out
[08:24] <Sanne> stdin: I was just about to tell jujimufu :)
[08:24] <Sanne> jujimufu: got all that?
[08:25] <escobaldo> help me........ kubuntu language italy
[08:25] <escobaldo> ?????????''
[08:26] <stdin> !it | escobaldo
[08:26] <ubotu> escobaldo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:27] <lennin001> I need a program to edit videos on Jubuntu
[08:27] <lennin001> Kubuntu
[08:27] <lennin001> I need a program to edit videos on Kubuntu
[08:27] <lennin001> please
[08:27] <stdin> lennin001: I use avidemux
[08:28] <lennin001> avidemux is as After Effects??
[08:28] <stdin> I use it to chop, mix, edit. don't use "effects"
[08:31] <lennin001> tank's
[08:31] <arch01> hello anybody got a problem with a black screen after installnig nvidia driver on 7.04
[08:31] <lennin001> I hope for the better Video Editor on Kubuntu
[08:31] <lennin001> tanks
[08:33] <stdin> lennin001: take a look at lives too
[08:34] <ZachClark0331> ok i just bought cedega
[08:34] <ZachClark0331> hopefully it works
[08:38] <vv>   dd
[08:39] <Tm_T> vv: I don't think so
[08:42] <stoft> !u
[08:42] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[08:44] <mika_> is there ubuntu room for finnish people?
[08:44] <Tm_T> !fi | mika_
[08:44] <ubotu> mika_: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:44] <escobaldo> prova
[08:45] <escobaldo> italiano
[08:45] <Tm_T> !it | escobaldo
[08:45] <ubotu> escobaldo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:45] <ZachClark0331> anyone use cedega?
[08:47] <Skrot-> Hi, I'm trying to rip a DVD using k3b, but when I press "Rip Video DVD" nothing happends.. any ideas?
[08:47] <tibbar> What is a cool torrent program for kubuntu im using KTorrent atm, but I would like to test other ones too
[08:48] <jthomas> lennin001: try Kdenlive but you have to go to their webpage
[08:48] <Filthpig> !pastebin
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <chemist109> ZachClark0331: I use cedega on edgy.
[08:49] <chemist109> Skrot-: I use k9copy for dvd transcoding.
[08:49] <Skrot-> I'd rather have a KDE app, if there are any good ones :>
[08:49] <jthomas> Skrot-: me too
[08:49] <jthomas> k9copy is KDE
[08:49] <jthomas> and it is a good one :)
[08:49] <Skrot-> Man, you're right
[08:49] <Sanne> Skrot-: k3b is only a frontend for command line apps. Maybe you need to install a dvd ripper? Go to k3b-settings-programs and see if you have anything looking like a dvdripper not installed.
[08:50] <Skrot-> Sanne: Everything is installed, and also the library to play DVDs
[08:50] <Sanne> Skrot-: then I don't know, sorry
[08:50] <jthomas> it can do DVD9 to DVD5 (well, 4.4GB but they call it DVD5)  It can also do AVIs and others...
[08:50] <Skrot-> jthomas: Which titleset is usually the movie itself?
[08:50] <jthomas> Skrot-: the biggest one, numbers change for each DVD
[08:50] <Skrot-> Right, thats all I need to create a playable xvid of it, right?
[08:51] <jthomas> Skrot-: if you want to actually use k9copy you HAVE TO INSTALL MKISOFS and DVDRTOOLS in Adept, which don't pull in with it but really really should.
[08:51] <Skrot-> done
[08:51] <stdin> jthomas: report it as a bug then
[08:51] <chemist109> Skrot-: Did you follow this tutorial? http://k3b.plainblack.com/videoencoding
[08:52] <jthomas> Skrot-: it should be, but test it first!  I have a lot of codecs etc installed so it works for me, but i am not sure what else it may be missing for divx (maybe nothing)
[08:52] <jthomas> stdin: I have, thanks!
[08:52] <Skrot-> chemist109: I'll have a look :)
[08:52] <nuxil> is ther issues with mythtv version 0.20.20060828-3 and ivtv module 0.10.1 ??
[08:53] <Skrot-> chemist109: Does it work for you?
[08:54] <chemist109> Skrot-: I use k9copy.  I just ran across that tutorial.  Thought you might not have all the dependencies or something.
[08:54] <Skrot-> okay :)
[08:54] <neverblue> wow, installing apache2 on *buntu isnt working good on Feisty, or is that just me?
[08:57] <hakaisou> !run dialog
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run dialog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <Skrot-> chemist109: This seems to be a bug in feisty actually
[08:58] <nuxil> anyone got mythtv running with a pvr 150 or 500 card ?
[08:58] <chemist109> neverblue: I installed apache2 on a feisty machine recently.  Working fine.
[08:59] <epimeth> suggestions for cd ripping software please!
[08:59] <epimeth> kaudiocreator?
[08:59] <epimeth> neverblue: me too
[08:59] <neverblue> hmm
[08:59] <neverblue> do you have an httpd.conf?
[09:00] <epimeth> don't all chip in at the same time :-)
[09:01] <epimeth> neverblue: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[09:02] <neverblue> epimeth, but is it just comments?
[09:02] <jthomas> epimeth: yes kaudiocreator is what i use
[09:03] <jthomas> epimeth: grip works well too, but its kinda ugly...
[09:03] <epimeth> but its not used
[09:03] <epimeth>  /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:03] <epimeth> thats the one
[09:03] <epimeth> the httpd.conf is there for backwords compatibility
[09:03] <epimeth> it is included from apache2.conf
[09:03] <jthomas> epimeth: kaudiocreator's mp3 settings are located in Kubuntu System Settings, Advanced tab... kind of a pain, but once done its all good...
[09:04] <neverblue> but is it just a few comments?
[09:04] <epimeth> neverblue: its totally blank for me
[09:04] <Skrot-> chemist109: How long does it usually take to rip a movie off a DVD on a fairly new machine?
[09:06] <epimeth> I remember 6 years ago it took 6 hours on pretty much the fastest machine available (decently priced, of course)
[09:06] <vinicius_> hi, folks, could anybody here help me use kxmame?
[09:06] <ZachClark0331> ok cedga working good
[09:07] <ZachClark0331> need to find out what to put as the game folder
[09:08] <neverblue> k, thought so
[09:09] <epimeth> when sharing folders between 2 kubuntu boxes, is it better/easier to use smb or nfs?  specifically mounting them through fstab
[09:10] <mat1980> epimeth, nfs
[09:10] <renners> hello, I have just done fresh install of of kubuntu. when I startup Adept it says the package database is in use I get read-only mode... this is straight after boot, no other apps have been started by me! how can I find out what is using the package databse please?
[09:10] <jthomas> Skrot-: takes me about 15-25min to rip a DVD to DVD; to rip to a Divx it takes... hours?  a loooong time, for sure...
[09:10] <llutz> epimeth: sshfs
[09:11] <epimeth> llutz: whats sshfs?
[09:11] <epimeth> llutz: and how does one install it?
[09:11] <epimeth> :-)
[09:11] <epimeth> or use it
[09:11] <jthomas> renners: it may be checking for updates; try either waiting a few minutes and try again; OR try the reboot and don't touch Adept for 5 min...
[09:11] <llutz> epimeth: sudo aptitude install sshfs fuse
[09:11] <epimeth> mat1980: figured as much... but now I'm curious about this sshfs :-)
[09:12] <renners> ok thanks (it should be more informative!)
[09:12] <llutz> epimeth: just needs ssh
[09:12] <jthomas> renners: i'm just guessing here
[09:12] <jthomas> !sshfs
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <epimeth> so, what, is it like scp?
[09:12] <jthomas> heres a great link on SSHFS http://debaday.debian.net/2007/04/22/sshfs-easy-and-secure-access-to-a-remote-file-system/
[09:12] <epimeth> just add the key to my .ssh folder?
[09:12] <llutz> epimeth: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[09:13] <jthomas> epimeth: its like nfs ot something but its encrypted.  needs password entry tho so its not great to have it automount in fstab
[09:13] <mat1980> epimeth, don't worry, I'm curious too ;)
[09:15] <epimeth> jthomas: thats just it... I'd like to have my music automounted :-)  if I put the public key in my .ssh folder it won't automount?
[09:16] <hbbk> hi is there anybody here to help for an upgrade edgy->feisty ???
[09:16] <epimeth> hah!  second on google suggest when  typing sshfs was sshfs fstab :-)
[09:16] <Filthpig> !feisty | hbbk
[09:16] <ubotu> hbbk: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:17] <hbbk> yes but the automatic upgrader crashed !!!!
[09:17] <epimeth> hbbk: I've seen a few people come in here with problems doing that... I personally would (and did) install feisty from scratch... but thats just me
[09:17] <hbbk> I'm now in command line and did a dist-upgrade with the new source.list
[09:18] <jthomas> epimeth: it may, not sure... i do it to get my home music at work and i'd rather not have it automount, so i never looked into it
[09:18] <Filthpig> hbbk: is kubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:18] <hbbk>  kubuntu-desktop ok
[09:18] <epimeth> jthomas: on the serving computer all I need is ssh, right?  no sshfs, thats just client side?
[09:18] <Defdef> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu 7.04, and I am trying to find out why my wireless adaptor shows as disabled. When i clicked "enable interface" on it, it enables for a moment, then disables itself again.
[09:18] <Defdef> Can anyone help?
[09:18] <hbbk> It is now asking me something about mdadm which I do not understand
[09:19] <dwidmann> hbbk: mdadm is for RAID
[09:19] <hbbk> so I can answer none ?
[09:19] <hbbk> I have no raid stuff
[09:19] <dwidmann> sure
[09:20] <Defdef> Does anyone know how to update wireless device drivers? could that be the cause of my issue?
[09:20] <Filthpig> !wireless
[09:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:21] <dwidmann> be right bck ... rebooting into my new kernel
[09:21] <Lynoure> Defdef: would help if you told them which wireless, that is if that link does not help.
[09:22] <Defdef> Lynoure: Where can I find that info? This is the wireless adaptor on a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop
[09:23] <jthomas> epimeth: it needs Fuse modules also; if both are recent (K)Ubuntu then you're ok; read this: http://debaday.debian.net/2007/04/22/sshfs-easy-and-secure-access-to-a-remote-file-system/
[09:24] <epimeth> jthomas: I'm looking into it, but thanks
[09:25] <epimeth> hmmm.. does a directory have to exist in order to mount it using fstab?  or can I have a premount command 'mkdir /media/music' and a postunmount 'rm /media/music' ?
[09:27] <LasseP> oki pasted my FF error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19014/
[09:27] <jovans> hi@all
[09:27] <jthomas> epimeth: i think that'd have to be in a script, run at startup (including the mount command part), rather than in FSTAB... bu ti am not sure...
[09:27] <epimeth> it just annoys me that HAL is allowed to create a dir and automount, but fstab can't do that simple little thing
[09:27] <epimeth> how do I play a music cd in amarok???
[09:28] <epimeth> oh
[09:28] <epimeth> heh
[09:28] <epimeth> play audio cd
[09:29] <epimeth> how do I check if I have ssh2 installed?
[09:29] <Filthpig> hmm
[09:30] <Filthpig> can I mount *.uif in the same way as *.iso?
[09:30] <llutz> epimeth: openssh provides ssh1 + 2
[09:30] <llutz> epimeth: dpkg -l openssh-*
[09:32] <epimeth> llutz: cheers
[09:32] <epimeth> where does KAudioCreator save ripped files to?
[09:34] <llutz> epimeth: "where you told him to do" :)
[09:34] <fulat2k> anyone here running beryl on a dell d400?
[09:34] <jovans> has the dev team an own irc channel?
[09:38] <Defdef> Ok so I narrowed down my problem; the device is disabled by the dell laptop, and I need to find out how to enable the device. usually it is a function key and another one, but i hear that does not work in linux often
[09:38] <Defdef> anyone have any ideas?
[09:39] <fulat2k> umm... if it's wifi, it's usualy Fn + F2
[09:39] <dogatemycomputer> !nvidia
[09:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:39] <Sanne> don't you just love when the asker quits just when you have found their answer. Still, if anybody cares about irc channels for ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:39] <dogatemycomputer> what kind of laptop are you working with and what do you need to enable?
[09:40] <Defdef> dell inspiron 1150. the wireless card and drivers seem to all be ok
[09:40] <Defdef> but when i enable the device, it enables for a second then disables again
[09:40] <Defdef> i cant keep it enabled
[09:40] <dogatemycomputer> FN-F2 usually enables/disables wireless cards on the Dell laptops.
[09:40] <dogatemycomputer> the newer series has a switch on the left hand side
[09:41] <dogatemycomputer> did you enable it in the BIOS?
[09:41] <Defdef> i didt know it couldnt be disabled in bios
[09:41] <Defdef> i should check that
[09:42] <fulat2k> if it's disabled in bios, you wouldn't be able to enable it momentarily though..
[09:42] <dogatemycomputer> yeah.. you can enable/disable it in the BIOS.   Its under the mini-PCI card menu.
[09:42] <dogatemycomputer> well..  the software may detect the FN-F2 keystrokes and attempt to enable it..  but you're right..  it should enable and disable via the keyboard and the software should only respond after the card is enabled.
[09:44] <dogatemycomputer> I would still check the BIOS.  I'm not sure how linux might react.  I know I have Suse installed on one of my Dell machines but I installed Suse with wireless enabled at the begining.. so maybe something else needs to take place now?
[09:44] <dogatemycomputer> !nvidia
[09:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <Defdef> found it, it was in the bios, and it was disabled. loading into OS now to test
[09:46] <BloodyTux> HELLO
[09:46] <BloodyTux> how are you guys?
[09:46] <fulat2k> ineresting... somehow it gets enabled momentarily even it's disabled in BIOS :P
[09:46] <Defdef> lol boy i should have thought of that. Thanks for your help Dog
[09:47] <Defdef> hey real quick while I am here, how hard is it to get internet explorer working in Kubuntu 7.04?
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Defdef: i'm going to do two things here
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) i'm going to pray you didn't just say that, and
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> 2) if you DID, i'm going to pray you're a web developer that requires compatibility
[09:48] <BluesKaj> !grub
[09:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:48] <Sanne> Defdef: there's a script for that (not official though), let me hunt for the url.
[09:49] <Defdef> Lol unfurtunately, my girlfriend needs it for a piece of data entry software her company uses
[09:49] <Lynoure> Defdef: http://www.rubyrailways.com/install-internet-explorer-on-ubuntu-dapper-in-3-easy-steps/ could do it for you (haven't tried)
[09:49] <fulat2k> Defdef: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer  i think i used that last time
[09:49] <Defdef> that is not compatable with any other browser
[09:49] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[09:49] <llutz> Defdef: ies4linux, simple, ugly
[09:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Defdef: fair enough, you may live :)
[09:49] <fulat2k> Defdef: hope and pray it doesn't use any activex controls :)
[09:49] <Sanne> Defdef: yeah, that one (too slow...)
[09:50] <Defdef> ok so i found that the wireless adaptor was disabled in bios, i enabled it and loaded kubuntu, but the device still wont remain enabled; even after toggling fn+f2
[09:50] <BloodyTux> how do i emulate win98 in kubuntu? and yes dai, i did say that
[09:50] <Daisuke_Ido> barring all else, vmware with a virtual win2k
[09:50] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: Wine, except it's not an emulator
[09:50] <fulat2k> or qemu :)
[09:50] <BloodyTux> !qemu|me
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that's a pick-your-flavor thing
[09:51] <llutz> or virtualbox, vmware, parallels or or or
[09:51] <BloodyTux> what's qemu
[09:51] <ubotu> me: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[09:51] <fulat2k> at least if you lots of choices if anyone doesn't work :)
[09:51] <BloodyTux> i need something free i can run reflexive games and byond
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> if they don't require any 3d acceleration, use a virtual machine
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> if they do, i do believe a dual boot is about the only real option, because i don't think they work very well with wine
[09:52] <neverblue> who in here said there apache2 install was working just fine....
[09:52] <neverblue> after i asked you to search for an httpd.conf?
[09:53] <mateja> slovenia
[09:53] <mateja> eh
[09:53] <Defdef> I am new to Linux, can someone explain the difference between loging on as root user, and sudo user?
[09:53] <Defdef> and how to log on as root user?
[09:53] <firecrotch> !sudo | Defdef
[09:53] <ubotu> Defdef: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:54] <firecrotch> Defdef:  Basically, you use sudo to use the privileges of the root user
[09:54] <epimeth> grrr... stupid internet
[09:54] <epimeth> so I missed a whole lot
[09:54] <epimeth> neverblue: me!
[09:54] <firecrotch> Defdef: Never log in as "root", it's disabled in Kubuntu
[09:54] <jujimufu> hey, I am on KDE and I have three different keyboard layouts (languages). How do I switch through them by pressing Alt+Z?
[09:54] <epimeth> neverblue: mine works
[09:55] <neverblue> hey epimeth and php works?
[09:55] <epimeth> so how do I add genres to lame?  it won't let me encode paul simon - graceland
[09:55] <epimeth> neverblue: everything works... php, mysql, cgi, mod-rewrite
[09:55] <epimeth> all the stuff I need :-)
[09:55] <sparrw> is there a way to make http://*.php open in konqueror as a web page, but anyotherprotocol://*.php open in kate for editing?
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> epimeth: what won't let you encode?
[09:56] <Defdef> i want so desperately to get this wireless working, to prove to the fiancee that she can indeed use linux on her laptop
[09:57] <neverblue> epimeth, I hate you :P
[09:57] <Yorokobi> neverblue: its not hard to get PHP working w/apache2
[09:58] <fulat2k> Defdef: anything in /var/log/messages?
[09:58] <neverblue> Yorokobi, oh, good, thanks for putting my mind at ease, but your comment doesnt help
[09:58] <epimeth> ahhh... --ignore-tag-errors
[09:58] <epimeth> now why isn't that there by default?
[09:59] <Yorokobi> neverblue: what problem are you running into?
[09:59] <waltercool> how i can know root password in kubuntu Feisty?
[09:59] <waltercool> i reciently installed and didnt ask me password for root
[10:00] <neverblue> Yorokobi, I am unable to get php5 working with apache2 on ubuntu
[10:00] <mat1980> waltercool, you can't
[10:00] <waltercool> mat1980: so?
[10:00] <mat1980> waltercool, root is disabled, you have to use sudo
[10:00] <firecrotch> waltercool:  use the same password as your user.  You can't login as root.  Use sudo or kdesu (for graphical apps) instead
[10:00] <Yorokobi> waltercool: 'sudo -s' then 'passwd' and set it to whatever you like.
[10:00] <Sanne> !root | waltercool
[10:00] <ubotu> waltercool: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:00] <waltercool> mat1980: with sudo ask me a password
[10:00] <Yorokobi> neverblue: did you create the symlinks between mods-enabled/mods-available in /etc/apache2 ?
[10:01] <neverblue> apache is working (not 100%), and I surf to a .php file, and the browser attempts to dl it, rather than view it
[10:01] <Yorokobi> waltercool: it wants your password
[10:01] <firecrotch> waltercool:  Use the password for your user
[10:01] <mat1980> waltercool, read what ubotu say to you
[10:01] <neverblue> Yorokobi, not myself, maybe the installer did, not sure
[10:01] <Defdef> how do i check /var/log/messages?
[10:01] <Yorokobi> neverblue, probably not
[10:01] <waltercool> i need execute a installation .run
[10:01] <llutz> Defdef: (sudo) less /var/log/messages
[10:01] <neverblue> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root    4096 2007-05-03 12:19 mods-available
[10:01] <neverblue> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root    4096 2007-05-03 12:19 mods-enabled
[10:02] <neverblue> they are both dirs
[10:02] <waltercool> and i press su and error in password
[10:02] <neverblue> not links
[10:02] <waltercool> sudo and error in password
[10:02] <Yorokobi> neverblue: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[10:02] <Yorokobi> neverblue: ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[10:02] <Yorokobi> /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[10:02] <Yorokobi> all as root
[10:03] <neverblue> then, will i require:
[10:03] <mat1980> waltercool, you have to type sudo <command>, then type your password
[10:03] <neverblue> LoadModule php5_module        modules/libphp5.so
[10:03] <neverblue> AddHandler php5-script php
[10:03] <neverblue> ?
[10:03] <Yorokobi> neverblue: shouldn't
[10:03] <waltercool> i try now and Permission denied
[10:03] <ovcka27> kdo iz slovenije tukaj?
[10:03] <waltercool> dont ask me more
[10:03] <neverblue> Yorokobi, my /etc/init.d/apache2 restart/start/stop doesnt work
[10:03] <neverblue> i have to use apache2ctl
[10:04] <Yorokobi> neverblue: how did you install apache?
[10:04] <neverblue> synaptic
[10:04] <Yorokobi> and the init.d script doesn't work?
[10:04] <neverblue> and I have not httpd.conf either
[10:04] <neverblue> there is an "apache" in /etc/init.d
[10:04] <Yorokobi> neverblue: its called apache2.conf for debian systems
[10:05] <neverblue> but i cannot do restart/start/stop
[10:05] <mat1980> waltercool, what's the error message?
[10:05] <firecrotch> neverblue, you need to be root to stop/start/restart apache
[10:05] <waltercool> Permission denied
[10:05] <neverblue> Yorokobi, comparing to other users, i am finding that there is an httpd.conf on other ubuntu users systems, its just comments, but there, none the less
[10:05] <neverblue> firecrotch, yes, im well aware of that
[10:05] <mat1980> waltercool, please write here the command you type
[10:06] <waltercool> sudo ./VBoxAdditions.run :P
[10:06] <firecrotch> neverblue: I missed the earlier parts of your problem, so what issues are you having?
[10:06] <waltercool> really (K)Ubuntu are rarely between another distros
[10:06] <mat1980> waltercool, is VBoxAdditions.run executable?
[10:06] <Yorokobi> firecrotch: PHP pages are dl'd instead of parsed
[10:06] <ashlon> waltercool, whats that command do?  i just joined
[10:07] <neverblue> Yorokobi, so its still not working, maybe my apache2ctl isnt restarting properly
[10:07] <waltercool> ashlon: install drivers for linux
[10:07] <epimeth> lets hope I actually stay online this time
[10:07] <epimeth> neverblue: you wanted to ask me something else?
[10:07] <neverblue> epimeth, not atm, have two convos already :/
[10:07] <ashlon> waltercool, should i type it lol?
[10:07] <Yorokobi> neverblue: if you installed apache via synaptic but /etc/init.d/ has 'apache' instead of 'apache2' then you probably have apache 1.3 installed ... *shrug*
[10:08] <waltercool> ashlon: i dont think so... im in virtual console
[10:08] <mat1980> waltercool, paste the output of     ls -l VBoxAdditions.run
[10:08] <ashlon> waltercool, nice, you using vmware?
[10:08] <waltercool> ashlon: and drivers are for virtual console
[10:08] <waltercool> yeah
[10:09] <neverblue> so my Yorokobi I have apache2
[10:09] <neverblue> firecrotch, could you just scroll up to see the issue, rather than me repeat myself?
[10:09] <waltercool> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 373379 2007-03-13 14:35 VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[10:09] <neverblue> so it looks like my php5 install isnt setting correctly
[10:09] <waltercool> is not large
[10:10] <neverblue> can I debug it some how, other than using it with apache?
[10:10] <firecrotch> neverblue:  Dumb question.... but do you have the package "libapache2-mod-php5" installed?
[10:10] <markc> anyone want to know how to set up the new skype 1.4_alpha on an amd64 box ?
[10:10] <neverblue> firecrotch, yes
[10:10] <neverblue> i do
[10:10] <llutz> markc: more interesting would be, which secret spy-functions are in 1.4b :)
[10:11] <firecrotch> neverblue:  maybe try uninstalling it, then reinstalling
[10:11] <markc> llutz: probably zero, the new devel team seems far more open, if anything skypeish can be considered open
[10:12] <neverblue> sure, doing that now firecrotch
[10:12] <jussi01> is there a way i can make the computer stop asking me for my wallet password on startup?
[10:13] <markc> jussi01: there is an option in it;s config to turn it off
[10:13] <neverblue> firecrotch, doesnt help
[10:13] <jussi01> markc: how do I turn it on...
[10:13] <mat1980> waltercool, have you tried became root with sudo su and then exec the script?
[10:14] <waltercool> how i can get root?
[10:14] <mat1980> sudo su
[10:14] <waltercool> O.o... i dont know that
[10:14] <mat1980> better, sudo su -
[10:15] <Yorokobi> waltercool: or 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i'
[10:15] <markc> jussi01: I can't check as I removed mine altogether
[10:15] <firecrotch> neverblue: Then my next suggestion is to remove apache2 and php and all of that, and reinstall both together
[10:15] <waltercool> Yorokobi: I like su... but dont works xD... sudo su works :)
[10:15] <jussi01> markc: I think i found it anyway thanks
[10:15] <neverblue> firecrotch, which i have done twice already
[10:15] <jussi01> !sudo | waltercool
[10:15] <ubotu> waltercool: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:15] <firecrotch> neverblue:  sorry, didn't realize that.
[10:15] <neverblue> i am way past that point
[10:16] <Yorokobi> neverblue: do you have php5.(load|conf) in your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ dir?
[10:16] <pulaski> hello
[10:16] <mat1980> waltercool, once you are root can you exec that script?
[10:16] <waltercool> seeking...
[10:16] <mat1980> ok, sorry for hurry up you...
[10:16] <neverblue> Yorokobi, how can I test php by itself, without apache?
[10:17] <neverblue> or is that impossible?
[10:17] <waltercool> works!
[10:17] <waltercool> cool
[10:17] <waltercool> thanks u a lot :)
[10:17] <francisco884_>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:17] <Yorokobi> neverblue: php somethin.php probably
[10:17] <mat1980> waltercool, I'm happy you resolved your problem. I just wonder why sudo ./VB.... didn't work.
[10:18] <firecrotch> neverblue:  If you have php5-cli you can just do "php script.php" on the command line
[10:18] <waltercool> me too... give me a wrong password and block me xo
[10:18] <waltercool> and... why root doesnt exist?? For a easy use?
[10:18] <firecrotch> waltercool: More secure without root enables
[10:19] <Sanne> !root | waltercool
[10:19] <ubotu> waltercool: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:19] <llutz> waltercool: they call it security-feature...
[10:19] <mat1980> waltercool, for security
[10:19] <waltercool> ic :O
[10:19] <waltercool> i need restart... i back ;)
[10:20] <jujimufu> I had my iPod plugged in and I transferred some files from Amarok (with a special plugin), and then I ejected the iPod from Amarok, and it was automatically unmounted. But now, that usb port seems "dead", as if amarok unmounted it forever. Nothing that I plug in there is recognised by linux, not even the iPod (which I had just plugged in two minutes ago). Any ideas?
[10:20] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i just got a motorola bluetooth headphone, and i would like to set it up, but i cant seem to do that, any suggestions?
[10:22] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i just got a motorola bluetooth headphone, and i would like to set it up, but i cant seem to do that, any suggestions?
[10:22] <jussi01> !patience | Midspeed
[10:22] <ubotu> Midspeed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:22] <jd> hi all
[10:24] <Midspeed> sorry jussi01 im just in a hurry, i didnt mean to push
[10:24] <jd> has somebody installed kubuntu feisty on a 640m dell laptop ?  Knetworkmanager seems to fail connecting to my wpa encrypted wifi network
[10:25] <pulaski> I have a p II running ubuntu server 7.04 with LAMP and a p III running kubuntu 7.04 as a client.  I'm trying to serve pages from server but my perms are apparently wrong.  on the server everything from /home/pulaski and below is owned buy user pulaski.  My public_html is in ~/.  When I put the IP address of the server in the firefox location bar I get the "You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server" message.  
[10:26] <jussi01> Midspeed: your all good...
[10:27] <Yorokobi> pulaski: are you trying to access ~username/index.html or something in /var/www ?
[10:27] <_4str1> pulaski: if you put only the IP adress of the serv ?
[10:28] <pulaski> thanks for responding.  I changed my documentroot to ~/public_html from /var/www and yes I put in only the ip address of the server.
[10:29] <Yorokobi> pulaski: does www-data have read access to your public_html dir?
[10:30] <Yorokobi> pulaski: or is apache running as your user?
[10:30] <pulaski> Sorry is www-data a user? I imaging apache2 is runnning as the default user whatever that is.
[10:30] <Yorokobi> pulaski: yes, www-data is the apache user
[10:31] <Arwen> pulaski, afaik, www-data is the user apache uses
[10:32] <pulaski> good thanks,  so should I make www-data user a member of the same group of pulaski?
[10:33] <Yorokobi> or chown pulaski:www-data ~/public_html
[10:34] <pulaski> thanks Yorokobi, I've not seen that use of a : in the chown statement.  It looks like multiple owners separated my : right?
[10:34] <Yorokobi> user:group (or user.group)
[10:38] <pulaski> ok thanks a lot Yorokobi I'll try that.  And thanks to you other cats who were kind enough to resond.  cya
[10:46] <neverblue> Yorokobi, still around?
[10:47] <Yorokobi> neverblue: nope, I left ;)
[10:47] <neverblue> ok :(
[10:47] <Yorokobi> hehe
[10:47] <neverblue> how do I completely remove apache2?
[10:47] <neverblue> even php5
[10:48] <Yorokobi> neverblue: you are using synaptic, yes?
[10:48] <neverblue> i just did a complete removal with synaptic, but no luck
[10:48] <neverblue> the /etc/apache2 is still there
[10:48] <neverblue> and my /etc/init.d/apache2 is bad
[10:48] <neverblue> which needs to be re-added
[10:48] <Yorokobi> neverblue: 'sudo rm -rf /etc/apache2/' and 'sudo rm /etc/init.d/apach2' will do the trick.
[10:49] <Yorokobi> neverblue: but a complete removald should have taken care of that (if you purged all the related packages)
[10:49] <neverblue> but is that all?
[10:49] <Yorokobi> *removal
[10:49] <mikkael> kaffeine is not playing avi files anymore, it says something about no decoder for format XVid, any help here ?
[10:49] <neverblue> how do I know what else apache installs
[10:50] <neverblue> Yorokobi, well, something isnt doing its job
[10:50] <Yorokobi> neverblue: use synaptic to do a package search for 'apache' and nuke anything that's still installed
[10:51] <neverblue> already done
[10:51] <neverblue> but there is still its dir
[10:51] <neverblue> just checked, the /etc/init.d/apache is no more
[10:52] <k3ks> hi
[10:52] <k3ks> I've got a problem
[10:52] <k3ks> if I want to delete for example klinkstatus he wants to remove the hole kde
[10:53] <k3ks> i doesn't let meremove single programms
[10:53] <k3ks> first, i installt ubuntu and then kde on it, may this cause the problem?
[10:53] <k3ks> has anybody a clue how to solve it?
[10:53] <Arwen> k3ks, it might, but it shouldn't
[10:54] <k3ks> Arwen: and is there a solution for it?
[10:54] <Arwen> dunno, go install kubuntu-desktop - we'll work out the problems as they appear
[10:55] <k3ks> Arwen: ok
[10:57] <Freddy2> hi
[11:02] <spookcomix> This room is a little quieter than #ubuntu...so I'll ask here.
[11:02] <spookcomix> My wife's laptop is running Kubuntu.  She was using Edgy, and I've just updated her to Feisty.  Her "usplash" has never worked, even under Edgy.  It just goes to a black screen, then eventually shows the login screen.  Any ideas?
[11:03] <ubuntu> Hi, how can i get from LiveCD Kubuntu Feisty Fawn to my /home ?
[11:04] <iolena> hi!
[11:04] <iolena> someone knows how to configure sata disks for dma acces?
[11:04] <iolena> hdparam dosen't work
[11:05] <chemist109> iolena: I think that they are supposed to automagically do that without help.
[11:05] <iolena> ok
[11:05] <chemist109> iolena: does sudo hdparm -tT give low scores?
[11:06] <iolena> and the io suppor by degault 16 bits its also ok
[11:06] <chemist109> iolena: I meant: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda give low scores?
[11:07] <chemist109> iolena: I've seen complaints about not being able to adjust dma and 16 bit io.  I haven't seen any solutions yet.
[11:07] <iolena> this is what it drops: Timing cached reads:   650 MB in  2.00 seconds = 325.02 MB/se
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> spookcomix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash-artwork i think
[11:08] <iolena>  Timing buffered disk reads:  156 MB in  3.03 seconds =  51.57 MB/sec
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm not sure, use at your own rist
[11:08] <iolena> its fine?
[11:08] <mat1980> iolena, it seems is not so bad...
[11:08] <spookcomix> Admiral:  Thanks!  I'll give it a shot.
[11:08] <zoohouse> When you rightclick in Adept and select pure a package, what does it do?
[11:08] <iolena> i suspect my hd is giving problems
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> spookcomix: sec.
[11:08] <chemist109> iolena: I don't know.  Do you have any idea what you had before?
[11:09] <mat1980> iolena, what the active mode from sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda ?
[11:09] <k3ks> i still got the problem that he wants to remove the hole kde if i like to remove a singel prgramm
[11:09] <iolena> it locks up the pc whit the hd light on
[11:09] <iolena> with
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> no, usplash is the package
[11:10] <spookcomix> Admiral:  Yes, I was suspecting a bit of an error...I'll try that instead.  Trying...
[11:10] <zoohouse> I mean to say purge
[11:10] <mat1980> iolena, maybe it is still on swapping... how much memory do you have? (ram)
[11:10] <iolena> 1 gb
[11:11] <chemist109> zoohouse: It remove the package and the package's configuration files.
[11:11] <chemist109> zoohouse: Without purge, it just removes the package.
[11:11] <mat1980> what's the output of free -m ?
[11:11] <zoohouse> chemist109: then why did it remove kubuntu-desktop when I purged enlightenment (desktop enviroment)
[11:12] <zoohouse> it removed all KDE apps...
[11:13] <chemist109> zoohouse: There must be some dependency (or dependencies) that caused it.  Maybe you remove a critical KDE package when you removed enlightenment.
[11:13] <iolena> mat1980 i dont see any * no concurrent active mode :?
[11:14] <chemist109> zoohouse: Did you re-install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:14] <mat1980> iolena, there should be one *, or on the pio line or on the dma line
[11:14] <spookcomix> Admiral_Chigago: Unfortunately, that didn't work.  It's booting up now, but it's just a black screen.  Any other ideas?
[11:14] <zoohouse> chemist109: ima reinstall kubuntu now
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> spookcomix: hmm, sec
[11:15] <zoohouse> chemist109: it would be nice if it warn me and then alow me to choose
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> spookcomix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash-theme-ubuntu
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> thats my last ude
[11:15] <LHoT> is BloodyTux around?
[11:15] <spookcomix> Admiral:  Thanks, trying that now.
[11:15] <iolena> aah sorry i triedit whith i instead of I
[11:15] <iolena> this solves all my doubts
[11:15] <iolena>            *    SATA-II signaling speed (3.0Gb/s
[11:16] <iolena> udma6 on dma
[11:16] <iolena> that seems fine
[11:16] <iolena> thanyou very much
[11:17] <mat1980> iolena, -i is enought to know if dma is enabled. However you acheaved it. udma6 is fine.
[11:17] <iolena> :)
[11:17] <mat1980> iolena, that's allright
[11:18] <iolena> yes, thanks
[11:18] <mat1980> iolena, but it's not fine your pc lock with hard disk working, maybe some program crashes and makes your system trashing
[11:18] <jussi01> ok, Im over this... I want my computer not to ask me for any passwords on startup. I have autologin on but it asks me for my wallet password. if i disable the wallet. it asks me for my wiireless password. Whats the secret?
[11:19] <LHoT> hmmm... I'm feeling unproductive here, if anyone has a question on how to get flash and java working on AMD64, let me know
[11:20] <iolena> i think there is something wong  but in safemode soent occur so i will try to modify the startup apps
[11:21] <mat1980> iolena, well, good luck ;)
[11:22] <iolena> thanks mat1980
[11:22] <iolena> i im going to try a reset to see changes
[11:22] <iolena> bye!
[11:25] <LHoT> I have a problem with beryl.
[11:25] <LHoT> :(
[11:25] <LHoT> anyone care to help?
[11:26] <jussi01> How do I restart the kde wallet?
[11:26] <dec_> can anyone help with komba2, having problems mounting
[11:27] <ashlon> How do I change my mic volume anyone?
[11:27] <ashlon> I guess no one knows
[11:28] <dogatemycomputer> well..
[11:28] <Yorokobi> ashlon: kmix -> Input tab
[11:28] <ashlon> Yorokobi, oh so i type kmix in the terminal?
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ashlon: try alsamixer in a terminal
[11:28] <dogatemycomputer> if you're using kmix..  right click on it -> show mixer -> input tab -> adjust microphone..
[11:28] <ashlon> k
[11:28] <Yorokobi> ashlon, that's one way to do it
[11:29] <dec_> anyone on komba2
[11:29] <dogatemycomputer> there is a whole tutorial online somewhere..
[11:29] <dogatemycomputer> let me see if I can find the kmix tutorial..
[11:30] <ashlon> Admiral_Chicago, thanks!  how do i get out of it so it saves the changes?
[11:30] <dogatemycomputer> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdemultimedia/kmix/index.html
[11:30] <dogatemycomputer> hmmm.. it has always saved my changes.. are yours being reset during reboot or osmething?
[11:31] <Pollywog> can Konqueror do RSS?
[11:31] <Pollywog> or do I need Opera or Flock for that?
[11:31] <ashlon> Admiral_Chicago, oh i hit Escape to get out
[11:31] <dogatemycomputer> I couldn't get komba to work..
[11:31] <dogatemycomputer> just gives me an SMBMOUNT error everytime I try to mount something with it.
[11:32] <Pollywog> dogatemycomputer: have you tried smb4k?
[11:32] <dec_> same error i am getting and i don't know why
[11:32] <LHoT> can anyone help me with my problem? Beryl immeadiatly quits to the fallback window manager. My machine is running/has Kubuntu 7.04, AMD64, Radeon 9000 M (I think it is)
[11:32] <dogatemycomputer> no..  although.. i'll be honestly.. I usually stick to the command prompt or bookmarks in konquerer..
[11:32] <LHoT> #beryl is just about dead
[11:32] <LHoT> :(
[11:33] <Yorokobi> LHoT: try #ubuntu-effects
[11:33] <Pollywog> LHoT: maybe #ubuntu-effects
[11:33] <LHoT> k
[11:33] <LHoT> Ill be back if its dead too
[11:33] <Pollywog> we are dead too I think
[11:34] <dogatemycomputer> is it hot in here or is it just me? :)
[11:34] <dogatemycomputer> i have neer seen Beryl working well..
[11:35] <dogatemycomputer> it seems to have alot of problems for a windows manager..
[11:45] <adaptr> you have ATI, right ? :P
[11:46] <flake> how can i tell what version of kubuntu I am running?  is it uname -[option]  ?
[11:46] <TheDebugger> lsb_release -a can tell you
[11:49] <flake> thanks
[11:49] <Admiral_Chicago> flake: that will tell you your hostname, kernel etc
[11:49] <Admiral_Chicago> uname -a will that is
[11:49] <Admiral_Chicago> uname -r is your kernel
[11:50] <flake> ok
[11:50] <dogatemycomputer> me?
[11:50] <dogatemycomputer> I have both..
[11:50] <dogatemycomputer> X600 on one, X1300 on another and Nvidia 7600GS on the third..
[11:51] <dogatemycomputer> i'm not bashing beryl by any means.. I think its.. ummmm.. cute.. but I would rather have something stable than cute.
[11:53] <onlineapps> hi, i need some help with ip address
[11:54] <chemist109> onlineapps: What do you need help with?
[11:54] <onlineapps> well, heres teh problem
[11:54] <onlineapps> ive got a feisty install on a compaq nc4000
[11:55] <onlineapps> and its not connecting
[11:55] <onlineapps> my other computer connnects fine (dell dimension 4700)
[11:55] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[11:55] <onlineapps> but this one one wont
[11:55] <Contrast> Any Enlightenment users in here?
[11:56] <DaveTheAve> Hello everyone, Kubuntu does not load.... feel like handling this issue?
[11:56] <onlineapps> theres another computer (running windows) that complains its not being assigned an ip
[11:57] <webvictim> i've got some sound problems. i was having issues with videos on youtube not playing, so i logged out and logged back in - now the videos play, but there is no sound in KDE full stop. kmix can't find devices with mixer interfaces
[11:58] <chemist109> onlineapps: what happens when you do this:  sudo ifup eth0
[11:58] <webvictim> even after restarting the problem persists
[11:58] <webvictim> the card appears in lspci and lshw
[11:58] <webvictim> and lsmod shows its drivers loaded (snd_emu10k1)
[11:58] <onlineapps> chemist109: already configured
[11:58] <webvictim> but alsamixer says "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[11:58] <chemist109> !pastebin
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[11:58] <DaveTheAve> Kubuntu fails to load.... feel like handling this issue?
[11:59] <chemist109> onlineapps: paste the output of:  ifconfig  to a pastebin and post the url here.
[11:59] <webvictim> DaveTheAve: think you might have to be a little more specific than that
[12:00] <onlineapps> but im using a different computer (since the other one cant connect)
[12:00] <DaveTheAve> Webvictim: Alright, grub loads.... it says loading.... then the screen loses signal and the keyboard flashes
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> haha, my 8 yr old kid just split my sides. He was complaining that his computer was "slower than a snail stuck in peanut butter", he said, "I can write programs faster than this can run em"
[12:00] <webvictim> DaveTheAve: sounds like a kernel panic
[12:00] <webvictim> what's the line that boots grub?
[12:00] <chemist109> onlineapps: well, copy it to a text file and use some removable media to get it to a computer with net access.
[12:01] <onlineapps> k
[12:01] <DaveTheAve> webvictim: it's the livecd
[12:01] <onlineapps> one sec
[12:01] <DaveTheAve> webvictim: well the livecd does it also... so I used the alt. cd to install it but I get the same error
[12:02] <webvictim> hmm
[12:05] <webvictim> DaveTheAve: i can't think why that would be. you've tried the "safe graphics mode"?
[12:06] <webvictim> and pressing F4 to set the console resolution at the liveCD menu too?
[12:06] <onlineapps> chemist109: here you go: http://pastebin.ca/469776
[12:06] <DaveTheAve> webvictim: Yes I have
[12:07] <chemist109> onlineapps: which card are you trying to fix?
[12:07] <chemist109> eth0?
[12:07] <onlineapps> well
[12:07] <onlineapps> eth0 and ath0
[12:07] <onlineapps> they both are used
[12:07] <onlineapps> i think
[12:07] <DaveTheAve> webvictim: I'm using an ATI
[12:08] <onlineapps> oh wait
[12:08] <onlineapps> eth0
[12:08] <onlineapps> though i could use ath0 too...
[12:08] <illriginal> Does anyone know if it's possible to communicate with someone over MSN on linux? Such as using gaim?
[12:08] <gemidjy> anyone has Pidgin packages for Feisty?
[12:08] <DaveTheAve> webvictim: could that be the issue?... I know that will crash the X server but will it cause a kernel panic?
[12:08] <chemist109> onlineapps: Let's try to get eth0 working.  What do you get when you do sudo ifdown eth0 and then sudo ifup eth0
[12:08] <cpk1> illriginal: yup; gaim probably does it, kopete does
[12:08] <killermach_> I installed fiesty and when I click add panel then drag the panel to the left side of the screen, I go to configure panel, to set the panel size and hide buttons, but I can only change/see the taskbar, something is missing, I cannot select "WHICH" panel to change.. anyone solve this yet?
[12:09] <onlineapps> let me do a pastebin
[12:09] <onlineapps> one sec
[12:09] <webvictim> illriginal: i use kmess
[12:09] <webvictim> it's quite good
[12:10] <webvictim> kopete is alright but i think kmess is more like the "official" MSN client
[12:10] <webvictim> DaveTheAve: no, kernel panic is before that
[12:10] <webvictim> it's something more fundamental
[12:11] <webvictim> but if you can't see the output, that's something of a problem
[12:11] <onlineapps> chemist109: http://pastebin.ca/469782
[12:11] <onlineapps> thats the output
[12:11] <cpk1> onlineapps: why do you have eth0:avah ?
[12:11] <onlineapps> im not sure
[12:12] <webvictim> wireless
[12:12] <webvictim> i would guess
[12:12] <onlineapps> it just was like that by default
[12:12] <onlineapps> yeah its wireless
[12:12] <webvictim> avahi-daemon is something to do with htat
[12:12] <illriginal> woohoo gaim rules!
[12:12] <webvictim> s/htat/that/
[12:12] <illriginal> thanks for the help guys
[12:12] <webvictim> so nobody's got any idea about why my sound has suddenly failed? it's a right pain in the backside
[12:12] <cpk1> avahi has nothing to do with wireless
[12:13] <onlineapps> im not really sure what it means
[12:13] <scast> I am the only one who feels that Firefox is awfully slow?
[12:13] <onlineapps> all i know is that i do have a wireless connection
[12:13] <webvictim> well, it is related to networks.
[12:13] <webvictim> :P
[12:13] <webvictim> scast: i don't have that problem
[12:13] <webvictim> i find konqueror slower
[12:13] <webvictim> hence why i use firefox.
[12:13] <scast> Blasphemy!! xD
[12:14] <scast> Weird anyway... it runs very slow for me.