[04:23] <poolie> i really wish i could set tags and severity when filing a bug
[04:33] <jml> yes
[04:33] <jml> me too
[04:35] <ajmitch> you can set tags when filing
[04:35] <spiv> poolie: I think you may be able to do that via the email interface?
[04:35] <ajmitch> an example of a preloaded tag: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?field.tags=needs-packaging
[04:36] <ajmitch> not particularly UI-friendly in this case :)
[04:36] <ajmitch> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug-advanced at least has a field for tags
[04:37] <poolie> ajmitch: you mean i can edit the url by hand?
[04:37] <poolie> uh
[04:37] <poolie> well, thankyou for telling me but ffs that's not very usable
[04:37] <ajmitch> the advanced page has a field for it
[04:37] <ajmitch> but not one for severity
[06:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!
[06:01] <ajmitch> hi mpt 
[06:03] <Nafallo> morning mpt :-)
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #111937 in malone "Assigning bug to someone else, without saying who, produces no warning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111937
[06:44] <mpt> bdmurray, ^^^
[06:44] <mpt> Thanks for letting us know.
[06:50] <bdmurray> mpt: thanks, I wasn't sure if someone had reported it yet
[06:51] <mpt> If in doubt, report it
[06:53] <bdmurray> by the way do know why people.launchpad.net fails the way it does?
[07:20] <mpt> bdmurray, for the same reason fqwhgads.launchpad.net fails the way it does
[07:20] <shirish> guys I have filed a bug upstream & want to link it with the bug I have already filed in launchpad, how do I link the two of them?
[07:20] <shirish> the bug in question is https://bugs.launchpad.net/sabayon/+bug/111775
[07:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111775 in sabayon "sabayon has a very thin man page " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[07:21] <mpt> shirish, click "sabayon" in the Affects table
[07:22] <mpt> then in the "Remote Watch" section, choose the appropriate bugtracker from the menu
[07:22] <mpt> ... and click the radiobutton next to it (ugh)
[07:22] <mpt> and enter the bug number in the field provided
[07:25] <shirish> mpt: aha, that's cool, although this is not intuitive for most people to find out
[07:25] <mpt> I know, it's a continuing problem
[07:26] <shirish> if a bug has to be filed for it, it should be in launchpad right, or somewhere else?
[07:27] <mpt> What do you mean by "it"?
[07:27] <mpt> The sabayon problem?
[07:27] <mpt> Or the problem with Launchpad being unintuitive?
[07:28] <shirish> the latter, the problem with launchpad not being intuitive
[07:28] <shirish> atleast in this aspect of it
[07:28] <mpt> I've just reported part of it, bug 111944
[07:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111944 in malone "URL expected when adding an upstream, but bug number expected when changing an upstream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111944
[07:28] <mpt> and I'm just about to report another part
[07:28] <shirish> hey cool, I'll just subscribe to it :p
[07:29] <shirish> and the other one, just lemme know the link
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111942 in malone "Email bombardment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111942
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111944 in malone "URL expected when adding an upstream, but bug number expected when changing an upstream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111944
[07:36] <shirish> mpt: malone is built in-house right?
[07:40] <mpt> shirish, bug 111946
[07:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111946 in malone "For non-LP upstream, bug watch should be mutually exclusive with assignee" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111946
[07:41] <mpt> shirish, yes, it's a Canonical production
[07:42] <mpt> Now, are there any other specific problems with what you tried to do, other than those two I reported?
[07:43] <shirish> mpt: nope, that's cool actually as I am on the lp beta tester team also so it was part my thing also, but doesn't matter as far as it gets reported ;)
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111946 in malone "For non-LP upstream, bug watch should be mutually exclusive with assignee" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111946
[07:46] <shirish> ok guys signing off from here, thanx mpt :)
[08:21] <mpt> huh
[08:21] <mpt> Didn't there used to be a way to turn a question into a bug report?
[08:23] <BjornT_> you can create a bug report from the question and link them together
[08:56] <mpt> oh, I guess the link is not present if the question is already linked to a bug report
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #111956 in malone "Cannot search for identifier containing underscores" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111956
[08:56] <mpt> That's something that isn't as obvious as it could be because of the Actions menu
[09:00] <BjornT_> mpt: btw, how's the fix for making LP usable in Opera again coming along?
[09:02] <mpt> BjornT_, I'll get that done by the end of today
[09:05] <BjornT_> mpt: cool. i'm getting sick of having to start firefox everytime i want to use LP :)
[09:15] <mdke> morning mrevell 
[09:15] <mrevell> hey mdke
[09:22] <carlos> morning
[09:26] <mrevell> morning carlos
[09:44] <mdke> wow, good job with openoffice.org
[11:18] <SteveA> mpt: hi
[11:18] <SteveA> mpt: I was looking at the menus in opera, and I noticed the actions portlets in the centre of the page there too
[11:19] <SteveA> mpt: I'm interested to know what causes that, as it may be pertinent to my fixing the menus there
[12:36] <mpt> SteveA, the Opera problem is because while Opera 9 is apparently excluded from a CSS filter that is supposed to target only IE7, Opera 9.2 does end up being targeted
[12:37] <mpt> so the CSS that's meant to correct the layout mistake that IE7 makes, Opera applies too without having made the layout mistake in the first place, so the end result is wrong
[12:37] <mpt> It won't be pertinent to fixing the menus, unfortunately.
[12:38] <SteveA> ok
[12:38] <SteveA> thanks
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #112056 in launchpad "The support tracker shouldn't send out e-mails with urls to beta LP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112056
[01:53] <mpt> That's a duplicate of a Rejected bug, iirc
[01:53] <mpt> (which perhaps shouldn't be Rejected)
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111800 in sbuild "sbuild attempts to satisfy versioned depencies and fails - causes packages to FTBFS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111800
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #112086 in launchpad "No "attach file" option when submitting bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112086
[03:58] <ddaa> Strange.
[03:58] <ddaa> I always feel a craving for pizza one minute before the meeting.
[03:58] <indraveni> statik, hi
[03:58] <indraveni> statik, how are you
[03:59] <statik> indraveni: excellent! how are you?
[03:59] <statik> indraveni: I believe our weekly launchpad meeting is starting momentarily on this channel
[03:59] <jtv> should be
[04:00] <SteveA> Hello!  Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting.
[04:00] <indraveni> statik, oh great, then I joined in the right time
[04:00] <SteveA> For the next 45 minutes or so, this channel will be devoted to talking about ongoing launchpad development.
[04:00] <SteveA> who is here todya?
[04:00] <statik> me
[04:00] <matsubara> me
[04:00] <allenap> me
[04:00] <sinzui> me
[04:00] <jtv> me
[04:00] <bac_afk> me
[04:00] <barry> me
[04:00] <ddaa> me
[04:00] <salgado> me
[04:00] <jamesh> me
[04:00] <flacoste> me
[04:00] <mwhudson> me
[04:00] <mthaddon> me
[04:00] <mpt> me
[04:01] <ddaa> got sentences from jml+thumper
[04:01] <BjornT_> me
[04:01] <kiko> oi
[04:01] <indraveni> me
[04:01] <SteveA> hi indraveni.  welcome.
[04:02] <indraveni> SteveA, thankyou :)
[04:02] <SteveA> JonathanK: welcome!
[04:02] <kiko> SteveA, bigjools and cprov are with me.
[04:02] <SteveA> JonathanK will be working on the blueprint tracker, starting in a few weeks.  Right now, he's helping out on various other parts of Launchpad to learn how it all works.
[04:02] <kiko> we are in a meeting with mdz
[04:02] <kiko> so bear with us :-/
[04:02] <SteveA> ok
[04:03] <schwuk> me
[04:03] <SteveA> launchpad developers: did you get the email about activity reports and "three team sentences" for this meeting?
[04:03] <SteveA> quite poll: please say either "got it" or "what email?"
[04:03] <SteveA> got it
[04:03] <statik> SteveA: got it
[04:03] <schwuk> got it
[04:03] <salgado> got it
[04:03] <mpt> got it
[04:03] <barry> got it
[04:03] <bac> got it
[04:03] <sinzui> got it
[04:03] <mwhudson> got it (via thumper)
[04:03] <jamesh> got it
[04:03] <jtv> got it
[04:03] <flacoste> got it
[04:03] <matsubara> got it
[04:03] <allenap> got it
[04:03] <BjornT_> got it
[04:03] <mthaddon> got it
[04:03] <carlos> got it
[04:03] <ddaa> got it (thx to jml for pointing me to it)
[04:03] <carlos> and me... O:-)
[04:04] <bigjools> got it
[04:04] <SteveA> great
[04:04] <schwuk> SteveA: I've also got mrevell's update for you
[04:04] <SteveA> thanks
[04:04] <SteveA> == Agenda ==
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Roll call
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Agenda
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Next meeting
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Actions from last meeting
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Bug report (Joey - [wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] )
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Bug tags
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Production and staging (Stuart)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )
[04:04] <SteveA> ----
[04:04] <SteveA>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * TestsStyleGuide (flacoste)
[04:04] <SteveA>  * (other items)
[04:04] <SteveA> ----
[04:04] <SteveA>  * Team three sentences
[04:05] <SteveA> 
[04:05] <SteveA> next meeting -- same time next week
[04:06] <BjornT_> i will be at uds next  week
[04:06] <SteveA> I guess some people will be travelling or at meetings
[04:07] <SteveA> anyone else?
[04:07] <SteveA> * Actions from last meeting
[04:07] <SteveA> no actions
[04:07] <SteveA>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:07] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 97245, 92164
[04:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 97245 in launchpad "Clicking "Back to team" button on +join page for restricted team results in UnexpectedFormData" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97245 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)
[04:07] <ubotu> Bug 92164 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/92164 is private
[04:07] <matsubara> salgado, any news on a fix for bug 97245? It's the top UFD exception.
[04:07] <matsubara> OOPS-487C1064 shows that bug 92164 is still triggered. SteveA or jamesh, could
[04:07] <matsubara> you take a look? I have other oops as examples, all of them in the +newaccount
[04:07] <matsubara> page.
[04:07] <ubotu> Bug 92164 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/92164 is private
[04:07] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/487C1064
[04:08] <kiko> matsubara, I spoke to gavin about the bug tracker oopses that are going on
[04:08] <jamesh> matsubara: fix for new OOPS reports is committed, and on the proposed cherry picks list
[04:08] <kiko> matsubara, he put up this page on them: https://launchpad.canonical.com/GavinPanella/Bug81014
[04:08] <SteveA> jamesh: see bug report please
[04:08] <salgado> matsubara, I didn't see it got assigned to me
[04:08] <SteveA> jamesh: I don't want to mark that bug fixed until we have removed the vulnerability from the data
[04:08] <allenap> kiko, matsubara: wrong page, try https://launchpad.canonical.com/GavinPanella/Notes instead :)
[04:09] <matsubara> kiko: the sourcepackage one?
[04:09] <matsubara> the KeyError on sourcepackagename I mean
[04:09] <kiko> matsubara, garr, what allenap said
[04:09] <kiko> yes
[04:09] <kiko> yes to both
[04:09] <SteveA> jamesh: I'm talking about a different bug :-)
[04:09] <SteveA> jamesh: sorry
[04:09] <matsubara> kiko: ok, that's on my list to check
[04:10] <jamesh> SteveA: actually, I think I'm talking about the same bug as you
[04:10] <matsubara> SteveA, jamesh: yes, you're talking about the same bug, but that's #90384 which jamesh just landed
[04:10] <kiko> matsubara, I already spoke to him about them -- I've asked for fixes and cherry-picks
[04:10] <matsubara> thanks kiko.
[04:10] <kiko> jamesh, can you talk to allenap about the URI issue there?
[04:10] <matsubara> and thanks allenap 
[04:11] <allenap> matsubara: np :)
[04:12] <matsubara> SteveA: the one I mentioned now is about the WSGI bug
[04:12] <SteveA> matsubara: about OOPS-487C1064, looks to me like the code fixing it hasn't been rolled out.  at least, that would be my first guess.
[04:12] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/487C1064
[04:12] <jamesh> kiko: sure.  After the meeting?
[04:12] <kiko> jamesh, please -- it's an oopser and an interesting one at that, and it has to do with the URI class.
[04:13] <matsubara> SteveA, it has, we're running r4182 since monday and that one was fixed on 4168 IIRC
[04:14] <kiko> matsubara, and no cherrypick? I requested a few but am not sure if 4168 was included
[04:14] <SteveA> jamesh: I guess that we have a new request, but the original wsgi environment :-(
[04:14] <matsubara> I'll add the new oops that happened since the rollout to the report and maybe you (jamesh and SteveA) could followup from there.
[04:14] <allenap> jamesh: after the meeting I'll update my notes with the discussion kiko and I had
[04:14] <mthaddon> kiko: https://launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadProductionStatus
[04:15] <kiko> allenap, grab jamesh before he disappears into australia. :)
[04:15] <matsubara> kiko: ? 4182 should include 4168
[04:15] <SteveA> jamesh: perhaps on a retry we get a cloned request, not the original one
[04:15] <kiko> doh
[04:15] <kiko> DOH
[04:15] <jamesh> SteveA: yeah.  HTTPRequest.retry() does create a new request.
[04:15] <SteveA> jamesh: in which case we need to look at the added keys when cloning a request, and note in the clone that the keys were validly added
[04:16] <jamesh> SteveA: we could probably preserve the list of keys we set previously though.
[04:16] <jamesh> yes.
[04:16] <matsubara> cool, that sounds like a plan. thanks jamesh and SteveA 
[04:16] <matsubara> SteveA: I'm done with the oops report and will follow on with the bug report from joey
[04:17] <SteveA> thanks
[04:17] <matsubara>  * Bug report
[04:17] <matsubara> congrats to jml and mthaddon for merging Bug #92484
[04:17] <matsubara> congrats to cprov for fixing Bug #52707 and Bug #107068
[04:17] <matsubara> congrats to danilo for fixing Bug #91089
[04:17] <matsubara> congrats to jamesh for fixing Bug #90384
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 92484 in launchpad-bazaar "Support for Branch Format 6" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92484 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml)
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 52707 in soyuz "please propagate -security uploads to -updates" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52707 - Assigned to JulianEdwards (julian-edwards)
[04:17] <ubotu> Bug 107068 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107068 is private
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91089 in rosetta "Email address can be viewed by users who are not logged in" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91089 - Assigned to   (danilo)
[04:17] <ubotu> Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private
[04:17] <matsubara> Bug #30602 - kiko - 2006-02-06 - Rosetta, Critical, in progress - Lots of
[04:17] <matsubara> OOPSes. kiko, delayed by sprinting?
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko)
[04:17] <matsubara> Bug #46982 - danilo - 2006-05-27 - Rosetta, Critical, not started -
[04:17] <matsubara> Infrastructure issues - Blocked on Firefox import. danilo, there is still a
[04:17] <matsubara> delay here I presume since it hasn't landed yet. Correct?
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 - Assigned to   (danilo)
[04:17] <kiko> matsubara, yes, and I think we should bump that down to high.
[04:18] <carlos> kiko: really, could we take over that bug?
[04:18] <matsubara> danilo is on vacation, carlos do you have any status from him about it?
[04:18] <kiko> carlos, no, you should open gutsy. :)
[04:18] <carlos> matsubara: yeah, it's still delayed also, I moved it to High
[04:18] <matsubara> Bug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, not
[04:18] <matsubara> started. mthaddon, if I am correct, this is actually started as I saw an RT
[04:18] <matsubara> request enabling the solution. Can you update the bug to reflect that status
[04:18] <matsubara> please?
[04:18] <ubotu> Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private
[04:18] <carlos> kiko: I mean, after Gutsy
[04:18] <carlos> kiko: :-)
[04:19] <kiko> carlos, we'll see when we get there. :)
[04:19] <carlos> kiko: ok
[04:19] <matsubara> thanks carlos and kiko 
[04:19] <matsubara> Bug #109652, first reported on 2007-04-24, Answers, flacoste - Critical, not
[04:19] <matsubara> started. flacoste, I know we've taken some temporary steps to halt abuse in
[04:19] <matsubara> production. Is there a plan on the longer term fix?
[04:19] <matsubara> Bjorn, bug #109652 has a malone bug task, should it be critical as well?
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109652 in launchpad-answers "Non-admin team member can make the team a bug/answer contact" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109652 - Assigned to Francis J. Lacoste (flacoste)
[04:19] <matsubara> Bug #111429, first reported on 2007-05-01, Launchpad, mpt - Critical. not
[04:19] <matsubara> started. Probably introduced by the 1.0 rollout..
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111429 in launchpad "Launchpad left hand menus (actions box and others) floating in the middle of the page in Opera 9.20" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111429 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
[04:19] <flacoste> matsubara: fix should be completed today
[04:19] <mthaddon> matsubara: have an RT request to begin the first stage of bug 107912
[04:19] <ubotu> Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private
[04:20] <matsubara> thanks flacoste 
[04:20] <BjornT_> matsubara: i don't think the malone task should be critical. only certain people are allowed to set the bug contact for a distribution or product.
[04:20] <mpt> matsubara, I'll have that fixed by the end of the day
[04:21] <matsubara> Bug #112 - jtv - 2005-01-31 - Rosetta, High, confirmed - Promoted to high
[04:21] <matsubara> priority last September. jtv, I see you've resurrected Dafydd's spec. Any
[04:21] <matsubara> progress here?
[04:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112 in rosetta "Search for packages per language" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112 - Assigned to Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv)
[04:21] <jtv> No, that's been shelved for the higher-priority Gutsy work.
[04:22] <matsubara> right, thanks everyone for the status reports and for fixing everything so promptly
[04:22] <matsubara> SteveA: I'm done, thank you
[04:22] <kiko> matsubara, by gutsy work we really mean "preparing rosetta for dealing with new distroreleases without excessive effort".
[04:22] <SteveA> thanks matsubara 
[04:22] <kiko> right jtv?
[04:22] <kiko> :)
[04:22] <SteveA>  * Bug tags
[04:22] <jtv> kiko: err..  sure!
[04:22] <SteveA> no new bug tags were proposed by anyone
[04:22] <SteveA>  * Production and staging (Stuart)
[04:22] <SteveA> mthaddon: anything to report?
[04:22] <kiko> jtv, I mean you are the process police last I heard
[04:23] <mthaddon> SteveA: not much apart from a few rollouts - I see there's a cherry pick for today and also expecting one more, I think
[04:23] <mthaddon> SteveA: for yesterday's cowboy fix
[04:24] <SteveA> we still have edge shut down
[04:24] <ddaa> mthaddon: will add cherrypick request, fell through the cracks.
[04:24] <SteveA> to wait until flacoste's proper fix has landed
[04:24] <SteveA> then we can run edge again
[04:24] <SteveA> when it has that code on it
[04:24] <mthaddon> ddaa: is this related to yesterday's issue, or another one?
[04:25] <ddaa> mthaddon: another, email-related branch-scanner oopses
[04:25] <mthaddon> ddaa: ok, cool 
[04:26] <mthaddon> SteveA: besides that just waiting on an RT request to be able to test Apache load balancer
[04:26] <mthaddon> need a host entry set up..
[04:26] <SteveA> ok
[04:26] <mthaddon> other than that, I think that's it
[04:27] <SteveA> in a future meeting, we can look at splitting this section into production+staging dealing with deployment, cherrypicks etc.
[04:27] <SteveA> and a DBA report from stub
[04:27] <SteveA> thanks mthaddon 
[04:27] <mthaddon> np
[04:27] <SteveA>  * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )
[04:27] <mpt> 27840, the brilliant certificate
[04:27] <matsubara> SteveA: RT 27799 rsync OOPS from potassium to devpad
[04:28] <mwhudson> ah, i have two rts open: #27843, #27844
[04:28] <mwhudson> (which i may not have filed quite properly)
[04:29] <mwhudson> about getting superpowers necessary to help ddaa with code imports
[04:29] <SteveA> ok
[04:29] <SteveA> any more?
[04:30] <ddaa> mh... filed two RT last week which got promptly fixed
[04:30] <SteveA> that's great
[04:30] <ddaa> should I report them post-facto?
[04:30] <mthaddon> ddaa: you obviously have the magic touch
[04:30] <SteveA> ddaa: no
[04:30] <SteveA> ok, thanks
[04:30] <jtv> ddaa: doesn't "post" take the accusative?
[04:31] <SteveA> I'll see what I can do about the RT requests
[04:31] <kiko> I think jtv and ddaa will now go into an infinite loop
[04:31] <SteveA>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:31] <SteveA> with schwuk standing in, right?
[04:31] <schwuk> These issues were taken from yesterday's Launchpad users' meeting.
[04:31] <ddaa> jtv: you say post-it, don't you?
[04:31] <schwuk> popey mentioned bug 111751, in relation to the issue of people who
[04:31] <schwuk> ask a question but don't mark it as "Solved".
[04:31] <schwuk> He suggests that support contacts - or some other group of trusted
[04:31] <schwuk> people - should be able to close resolved support requests.
[04:31] <schwuk> He and flacoste began a discussion about this.
[04:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111751 in launchpad-answers "Allow 'official' answer contacts to 'Change status' of a question" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111751
[04:31] <schwuk> Another issue comes from Jordi Mallach. He asks, "What's with 1.0's huge
[04:31] <schwuk> emblem icons. ie, now there's loads of user profiles with emblems
[04:31] <schwuk> horribly stretched".
[04:31] <schwuk> popey suggested that we do a one-off imagemagick job to convert old
[04:31] <schwuk> images to the right size by padding them with white space.
[04:31] <jtv> ddaa: and "it" isn't 4th-case there..?
[04:33] <popey> where "old" means "any image that isn't of the exact dimensions required by launchpad"
[04:33] <SteveA> hmm
[04:33] <SteveA> I'd expect questions to kinda age
[04:33] <popey> only required once because all new images are forced to be the right size aren't they?
[04:33] <SteveA> so, if I submit a question, it gets closed out after 3 months
[04:34] <mpt> agreed
[04:34] <schwuk> Seems sensible
[04:34] <jtv> Would it be enough to send an automatic reminder--"has your question been answered?"
[04:34] <SteveA> but I get a reminder email saying "if this is still current, you have 2 weeks to go to this address and say so"
[04:34] <flacoste> SteveA: that's all done now
[04:34] <schwuk> If not closed, then certainly moth-balled
[04:34] <SteveA> flacoste: way awseomer!
[04:34] <flacoste> Open and Needs info questions are expired after two weeks without activity and a notification is sent
[04:35] <SteveA> popey: I'mm looking into the images issue
[04:35] <popey> ok
[04:35] <SteveA> popey: thanks for bringing it up
[04:35] <popey> np
[04:35] <SteveA> schwuk: all done?
[04:36] <schwuk> for user issues, yes
[04:36] <SteveA> what else do you have from mrevell?
[04:36] <schwuk> He's posted this week's buzz report to the mailing list.
[04:36] <SteveA> right
[04:36] <schwuk> I've also got his three sentences for the marketing 'team'
[04:36] <SteveA> anything else?
[04:36] <schwuk> nope
[04:37] <SteveA> ok, thanks !
[04:37] <SteveA>  * TestsStyleGuide (flacoste)
[04:37] <flacoste> A TestsStyleGuide was written which contains guidelines that reviewers will expect you to follow in your tests (doctests, unittests, and pagetests).
[04:37] <flacoste> Make sure to read it.
[04:37] <flacoste> or, quick poll, say read it, if you have read it, not read it otherwise
[04:38] <carlos> flacoste: thanks for that guide
[04:38] <ddaa> reddit
[04:38] <barry> read it
[04:38] <mpt> digg
[04:38] <carlos> read it
[04:38] <salgado> read it
[04:38] <bac> read it
[04:38] <mpt> not read it
[04:38] <allenap> read it
[04:38] <BjornT_> read it
[04:38] <mwhudson> not read it
[04:38] <SteveA> not read it
[04:38] <jtv> not read it
[04:38] <sinzui> read it
[04:38] <matsubara> not read it
[04:38] <statik> read it
[04:38] <jamesh> not read it
[04:38] <ddaa> read it
[04:38] <schwuk> reading it
[04:38] <SteveA> flacoste: please keep it on the agenda to ask next week, checking that everyone has read it
[04:39] <mwhudson> where _is_ it?  on the wiki?
[04:39] <flacoste> SteveA: will do
[04:39] <flacoste> mwhudson: https://launchpad.canonical.com/TestsStyleGuide
[04:39] <mwhudson> ta
[04:39] <ddaa> flacoste: like it, it's good stuff. Hopefully in a year or so that will have improved the quality of our tests.
[04:40] <flacoste> ddaa: tanks! I hope the same
[04:41] <SteveA>  * Team three sentences
[04:41] <SteveA> TEAM: management
[04:41] <SteveA> DONE: release planning, some interviews, 1.0 release, line management
[04:41] <SteveA> TODO: release release plan (urgent), UDS, UI and Single Sign On
[04:41] <SteveA> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <salgado> TEAM: salgado's on his own (not for too long, he hopes)
[04:42] <salgado> DONE: some code review and lots of shipit work
[04:42] <salgado> TODO: some shipit, code review and team membership bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/53637, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/70519
[04:42] <salgado> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53637 in launchpad "Adding team 'Foo' as a member of team 'Bar' should require confirmation from one of the administrators of 'Foo'" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)
[04:42] <jtv> TEAM: Rosetta
[04:42] <jtv> TODO: Open Gutsy for translation
[04:42] <jtv> DONE: Last-minute work for 1.0, good progress on Gutsy
[04:42] <jtv> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <flacoste> TEAM: answer-tracker
[04:42] <flacoste> DONE: 1.0 bug fixes, show supported languages when asking question, work on new form API
[04:42] <flacoste> TODO: preferred-languages-only answer contacts, write specs, complete fix for bug 109652
[04:42] <flacoste> BLOCKED: waiting on AnswerSpec feedback from, at least, kiko and mpt
[04:42] <matsubara> TEAM: QA
[04:42] <BjornT_> TEAM: bug tracker
[04:42] <matsubara> DONE: triage, oops report checking, fixed small bugs for the 1.0 release
[04:42] <matsubara> TODO: more of the same, followup on oops fixes, bug report fixes and catch up with activity report to joey
[04:42] <matsubara> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <BjornT_> DONE: got abel and schwuk started. last-minute 1.0 fixes. fixed bug 103364.
[04:42] <BjornT_> TODO: finish up lp-closing-bugs-via-changelogs. fix bug 106984 and various other bugs. attend UDS.
[04:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109652 in launchpad-answers "Non-admin team member can make the team a bug/answer contact" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109652 - Assigned to Francis J. Lacoste (flacoste)
[04:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 103364 in malone "Global filebug form crashes if you first choose a distribution and later a project." [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103364 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)
[04:42] <ubotu> Bug 106984 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/106984 is private
[04:42] <BjornT_> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <mthaddon> TEAM: SysAdmin
[04:42] <barry> TEAM: team mailing lists
[04:42] <barry> DONE: landed testsuiterepair branch, trying to land mmbuild branch, phase2 spec completed, awaiting review, phase3 spec in progress
[04:42] <barry> TODO: complete phase3 spec, get db changes approved, review spec, get lp mailman branch updated and branched into sourcecode.
[04:42] <barry> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <jamesh> DONE: code review, LP security stuff, some pending-reviews page updates
[04:42] <jamesh> TODO: code review, fix 92164 properly, storm support
[04:42] <jamesh> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <ddaa> TEAM: launchpad-bazaar Antipodeans
[04:42] <ddaa> DONE: Organizing NZ sprint, supermirror fixes, private branches, spec out smartserver on supermirror, hide emails on bug page
[04:42] <ddaa> TODO: Work on private branches, get smart server running on supermirror
[04:42] <ddaa> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <schwuk> TEAM: marketing
[04:42] <mthaddon> DONE: Learning about rollout
[04:42] <schwuk> DONE: general user communication, Launchpad tour changes, release notes,
[04:42] <schwuk> user meeting.
[04:42] <schwuk> TODO: mentorship PR, TurboCASH, chase the blog problems, plan a
[04:42] <schwuk> Launchpad podcast.
[04:42] <schwuk> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <statik> TEAM: LPCOMM
[04:42] <statik> DONE: Prototype of user-oriented uptime monitoring in place, completed code and submitted FileDownloads feature for review, helping JonathanK get started, talking to Google about bug 78395, pyax moved to launchpad, reviewed branch-pull cronscript as an example of how to do periodic updates of launchpad DB, reviewer training, reviews, met with schwuk to discuss hwdb.
[04:42] <statik> TODO: Catch up on backlog of customer email, complete lp-comm month-one goals, lp-comm/salesforce integration, move ahead with LP health monitoring.
[04:42] <statik> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78395 in malone "Support Google Code's issue tracker" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78395
[04:42] <mthaddon> TODO: Cherry picks, load balancer
[04:42] <ddaa> TEAM: launchpad-bazaar Europeans
[04:42] <ddaa> DONE: increased branch mirroring frequency, landed importd oops support, landed branch-scanner oops fix, first trivial landing from mwhudson.
[04:42] <ddaa> TODO: fix importd oops support, remove hct/sourcerer deps from launchpad, review cscvs patch from cjwatson, teach mwhudson how to poke importd innards.
[04:42] <ddaa> BLOCKED: RTs
[04:42] <mpt> DONE: more performance review, bug page work, bug fixing
[04:42] <mpt> TODO: Opera fix, finish the dang bug page, other bug fixes
[04:42] <mpt> BLOCKED: no
[04:42] <mthaddon> BLOCKED: some RT requests
[04:43] <SteveA> thanks!
[04:43] <SteveA> I want to make a few changes to the team reports
[04:43] <SteveA> mthaddon, matsubara: please get together with stub and do a joint "production/qa/dba" report
[04:43] <SteveA> for next week
[04:43] <mthaddon> will do
[04:43] <matsubara> SteveA: roger that
[04:44] <indraveni> statik, sorry for disturbance, are you receivng my messages in private messging?
[04:44] <SteveA> mpt, jamesh: we'll need to think about how you do this reporting
[04:45] <statik> indraveni: sorry, I am not. probably you need to register your nick on freenode
[04:45] <jamesh> indraveni: by default, freenode blocks private messages from users not identified to nickserv
[04:45] <indraveni> statik, I registered
[04:45] <SteveA> ok, that's it.  thanks for putting together the team three sentences.  and thanks for a smooth meeting.
[04:45] <SteveA> MEETING ENDS
[04:46] <jtv> SteveA: you sneak.  You told us it'd be "team three sentences" and then you went and added a sentence.
[04:47] <indraveni> statik, jamesh my name is already registered
[04:47] <indraveni> anyway, as the meeting ended, I think I can proceed here
[04:47] <jamesh> indraveni: have you identified to services?
[04:48] <indraveni> jamesh, how to do that?
[04:48] <jamesh> indraveni: "/msg NickServ identify <password>"
[04:48] <jamesh> indraveni: or set up your IRC client to use your nickserv password as the server password
[04:48] <SteveA> jtv: I did?
[04:49] <jtv> SteveA: yup.  TEAM, DONE, TODO, BLOCKED.  Four.
[04:49] <statik> indraveni: having your nick registered is useful. It's fine to proceed on this channel now
[04:49] <SteveA> TEAM isn't a sentence
[04:49] <SteveA> sentences need a verb
[04:49] <jtv> SteveA: "BLOCKED: no"...?
[04:50] <SteveA> "no" is short for "is not blocked"
[04:50] <statik> indraveni: excellent, I'm getting your messages now
[04:50] <jtv> "Team" can be a verb.  They taught me that in IBM: Win, Execute, Team
[04:50] <SteveA> translate it into gaelic
[04:50] <SteveA> and you'll find that "no" becomes a verb
[04:50] <bigjools> gaelic?!
[04:50] <mpt> Win Execute Team? How Wet
[04:50] <jtv> SteveA: My Gaelic's a bit rusty
[04:50] <SteveA> I don't like the sound of "execute team"
[04:50] <jtv> mpt: yes, that's what they called it.
[04:51] <jtv> SteveA: Exactly.  See how important it is that Team is a verb?
[04:51] <SteveA> in gaelic, there is no word for "no".  or for "yes"
[04:51] <jtv> SteveA: nor in Latin, btw.
[04:51] <SteveA> so, you need to say the verb or negate the verb.
[04:51] <SteveA> "are you blocked?"
[04:51] <SteveA> "blocked."
[04:51] <SteveA> "not blocked."
[04:52] <SteveA> all future meetings will be conducted in gaelic.
[04:52] <jtv> You make it sound like a digestive thing, but apart from that, it's not that different from what you do in Thai :-)
[04:52] <SteveA> for clarity.
[04:52] <SteveA> you even added the thai smiley.  awesome!
[04:52] <jtv> SteveA: Actually Thai smileys are quite similar to Western ones--clearly Indo-European.
[04:52] <SteveA> everyone smiled at me when I was in thailand.
[04:53] <jtv> Except you can use "555" as a smiley
[04:53] <jtv> (5 is pronounced "ha", much like in Cantonese IIRC)
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #112099 in launchpad "Launchpad test overvrite data in Blueprints" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112099
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #112109 in launchpad "Returning 200 Ok instead of 200 OK" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112109
[07:11] <bd_> The simple bug report form seems to be timing out...
[07:44] <BFTD> some*
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #112138 in launchpad "'Simple' bug-reporting form times out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112138
[09:40] <docwhat> Hello!
[09:40] <docwhat> How do I find bugs that I have submitted?  I tried the obvious, and went to the home page and clicked on bugs.
[09:41] <salgado> docwhat, go to your personal page (there's a link to it on the top right corner) and click on the 'Bugs' tab. there you should see all bugs related to you
[09:41] <docwhat> Ah....
[09:41] <salgado> if you want only the ones you submitted, there's a 'Reported bugs' link there
[09:41] <docwhat> not terribly obvious. :-/
[09:42] <docwhat> I'll think about it and see if I can suggest a better way. :-)
[09:42] <salgado> cool!
[09:43] <docwhat> salgado: Thanks! ^_^
[09:47] <shirish>  guys I have put up a bug 112172 can somebody take a look-see & tell whether it should be in launchpad or malone?
[09:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112172 in launchpad "Absence of WYSIWYG toolbar everywhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112172
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #112172 in launchpad "Absence of WYSIWYG toolbar everywhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112172
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #112181 in malone "the front page doesn't show teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112181