=== darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:19] nothlit: what happened to you [12:23] inkscape disappeared again lol [12:23] i opened a chat with yharrow and shared the inkboard [12:24] nothlit: lets try this one more time [12:24] and inkscape died --but not instantly-- after a while [12:24] anyways i think you're supposed to do it through the buddy list [12:26] nothlit: What buddy list? the one in inkboard? [12:26] yeah [12:36] nothlit: why do you keep disconnecting? [12:37] nothlit: You manage to get yours connected ok? [12:37] my build is a crankin [12:38] yharrow: mostly to fiddle--but also because inkscape keeps dying lol [12:39] nothlit: thats weird. lets try on e more time [12:40] you were there for a seconmd [12:40] what happend [12:41] yharrow: Still compiling [12:43] yharrow: _still_ compiling :) [12:47] nothlit: use pedroXMPP as a resource [12:48] I mean pedroXmpp [12:48] sorry [12:49] troy_s: it took me 20 minutes to compile, so it should take you 10 to 15 [12:49] yharrow: Done :) [12:49] yharrow: retrying [12:49] login: no second SASL challenge offered by server [12:50] not impressed. [12:54] nothlit / yharrow you REALLY need to learn GIMP gap... it is pretty impressive [12:55] hmm yeah i have tutorials in my bookmarks [12:55] its been installed for a while === yharrow decides to insall gimp gap now [01:05] nothlit: It is NOT the worlds most well documented addition :) [01:43] yharrow: segfault again--i'm done lol [01:43] weird. I never get that [01:44] works all the time [01:44] hmm [01:44] thats because i initiated the sharing right away [01:44] nothlit: try restarting inkscape [01:44] and you never see it [01:44] but it causes the segfault === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:44] you just keep chatting :P [01:44] nothlit: dont try to share immediately [01:44] nothlit: I got the share the last time [01:44] i waited before [01:44] oh [01:44] nothlit: so I know it could work [01:44] did you get any content? [01:45] the problem is the windows are confusing [01:45] no cause, I close it after [01:45] the initiating window isn't the one i recieve chat in [01:45] nothlit: ok this time we will communicate through irc and well do it step by step [01:45] but which one is the one you're supposed to share the whiteboard to [01:45] Ill explain [01:45] btw i don't see the subscription aka buddy list going both ways in inkscape for some reason [01:46] yharrow: no [01:46] yharrow: as in [01:46] yharrow: when i double click on your name and send a message [01:46] your reply comes up in a box [01:46] but both boxes work for sending messages [01:46] nothlit: thats cause I had gajim open [01:46] no [01:46] and i think it confused things [01:46] i looked @ the resource [01:46] hmm [01:46] and closed everything and reinitiated [01:46] nothlit: then we mustve both opened a window [01:47] ... [01:47] its a chat box === yharrow [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:47] sorry bout that [01:47] anyways [01:48] it makes more sense to just share a vnc session [01:48] i am going to open it up and not touch anything [01:48] than to fiddle with all this [01:48] nothlit: vnc is less secure [01:48] eh [01:48] not over vpns/ssh [01:48] i have an nx server setup that can transport vnc over it as well [01:49] hmm. thats sweet :D [01:49] good stuff [01:49] wish I had something like that [01:50] nothlit: the thing that irks me though is that it went through the first time . I actually got the share request from you [01:50] when you were using the other jabber id [01:50] your first one [01:50] the fluxbuntyu [01:50] yharrow: me and joejaxx got the share request but we never saw anything and got segfaults [01:51] on talk.google.com and fluxbuntu.net [01:51] nothlit: so you think its a general bug? [01:51] i just think its not stable yet, as #inkscape suggested [01:52] nothlit: do you think its a protocol issue? [01:52] http://www.jabber.org/network/oldnetwork.shtml [01:53] dunno [01:53] i'm gonna figure out ejabberd and work off my two boxes [01:54] 93% is pretty good [01:54] prolly more than inkscape needs [01:54] i'd rather not try openfire (wildfire), blegh at java [02:09] nothlit: Did you get my jabber reply? [02:09] when/what was it? [02:10] nothlit: I don't know... your request was sitting there. [02:10] i jumped around a lot with clients/servers [02:10] oh the buddy request? [02:10] or the inkscape [02:10] it was a jabber buddy [02:10] req [02:10] i didn't notice it--but i shut off the fluxbuntu.net stuff a while ago [02:11] lo [02:11] lol [02:11] okie... [02:11] anyways, i now know how to do the usplash in gimp gap to get it off to tonic [02:11] so mission 1 accomplished === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] [05:32] troy_s: yharrow --ahh ok, i tested it on my own jabber server [05:32] regular nodes work fine [05:32] text is iffy [05:32] and transformations don't seem to go across === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:39] nothlit: So it is a protocol issue?!??! [05:39] nothlit: Open up your server to us! [05:43] lol [06:01] is anyone here aware of any feisty cd label artwork that's out there? [06:04] BHSPitMonkey: Yes. [06:04] BHSPitMonkey: What do you want? [06:04] seeking a cd label for 32bit Desktop feisty. [06:05] erm i think the cd's haven't changed in terms of labels (being that red blob with the white pill on the wiki) [06:05] only the art changes on the outside (although calling it art is a helluva stretch -- more like walmART) [06:05] tis fucking tacky to the extreme [06:06] troy_s, have anything better? :P [06:06] I guess I could wait for the new diy site to be up and functional... [06:09] BHSPitMonkey: Actually you could probably whip something up relatively easy [06:09] that said, the actual cd labels are quite adequate [06:09] the 'art' on the packages is... walmART [06:10] true, but I don't really feel like it, and I wouldn't really be satisfied :P [06:10] I'm not making a package, but just the label. [06:10] get the one off the wiki [06:10] it will suffice [06:11] I don't want to ever have to make a second feisty CD for myself :P [06:11] I want this to be respectable [06:25] didn't kwwii put up a .pdf/.eps? [06:26] :) i found the teacup example svg http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/InkscapeBrasil/ScreenShot3 [06:34] yeah [06:34] it was on inkscape's homepage [06:35] nothlit, f'ing amazing, that is. Makes my hacking about with Inkscape look like, um, hacking about... :) [06:45] BHSPitMonkey: i meant the svg itself [06:46] ah. [06:47] nothlit, well the dl just produces an error here === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:54] i got it on my end [06:56] nothlit: That teacup could be better all things considered [06:56] it really doesn't show off the power of Inkscape very well. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === yharrow_mobile [n=sysadmin@unaffiliated/yharrow] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo_ [n=lapo@host102-254-static.189-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:31] hi === shek [n=simontan@83-71-58-173.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.249] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@c-1813e055.1010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:25] hi [02:55] troy_s: well with shapes and blur-- you can do anything you want with inkscape, as long as your cpu can handle doing all that filter work === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === darkmatter [n=darkmatt@unaffiliated/darkmatter] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dborg [n=daniel@e182056210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === alefteris [n=alefteri@unaffiliated/alefteris] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === iac_lizardking [n=Miranda@host211-64-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === UbuntuStats [n=IRCStats@213.13.241.134] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:07] nothlit: Ping === illern [n=illern@c83-252-239-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:41] hi troy_s [10:42] yharrow: Greets friend. [10:42] yharrow: Apparently nothlit got better results on a local jabber server [10:42] troy_s: yeah so I saw in the log :D [10:42] troy_s: he still said he had problems though [10:43] troy_s: something about only nodes working [10:43] and text mocking up [10:43] some speculated that it is a protocol error [10:43] which was my initial guess as well [10:44] I seriously look forward to using inkboard [10:44] yes... it seems that the server is doing different things and affecting it. [10:44] it would be really great [10:44] yharrow: Even if it is pure simple sketching, that is a helluva lot better than what we have to the best of my knowledge. [10:44] yeah [10:44] thats true [10:44] I could live with sketching [10:44] theres lots of online whiteboard apps though [10:44] yharrow: I just finished up the fluxbuntu usplash (which is pretty darn good in the end) so there will be a little more time for brainstorming etc. === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] [10:45] and simple node manipulation [10:45] nothlit can you show me a few? [10:45] nothlit: It would GREATLY aid the community theme thinking [10:45] troy_s: do you think fluxbuntu will become recognized the way xubuntu or kubuntu has? [10:45] ahh kk [10:46] yharrow: doubtful, we are considered a fork, and do things to packages that wouldn't be put into the main repos [10:47] yharrow: I don't know or mind. I just want it to clobber the fuck out of all of those in terms of design. [10:47] Which isn't exactly hard. [10:47] yharrow: Look at Kubuntu -- it is in at least as bad shape as bloody Ubuntu. [10:48] speed or functionality wise? [10:57] yharrow: Art and design. [10:58] ahh ok [10:58] troy_s: do you have screenshots of flux? [10:58] default design in KDE is a disaster [10:59] Ubuntu is slightly better [10:59] yharrow: Default art / design across the boards is ... ick. [10:59] yharrow: Ubuntu is pretty bloody sad. === yharrow chokes every time he sees the kde dragon [10:59] :P [11:00] Konqi is his name I think [11:00] troy_s: this is the most famous one http://www.imaginationcubed.com/LaunchPage [11:00] i can't find the old ones i used [11:01] nothlit: lets do this. whats your eamil? [11:01] email* [11:01] yuck flash [11:01] any actual apps? [11:01] but a quick google turns up http://www.skrbl.com/ http://vyew.com/content/ http://vyew.com/content/ [11:01] oh [11:01] troy_s: i can deal with flash when there is no viable alternatice [11:01] ehm... i dunno about linux apps [11:01] alternative* [11:02] yharrow: Possibly... pretty sure there are a few whiteboards. [11:02] nothing off the top of my head === yharrow goes to apt-cache search [11:03] cant find anything [11:03] groupboard looks possible [11:05] troy_s: http://www.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~benes/tulka/ ? [11:05] nothlit: Well that looks promsing too [11:06] groupboard looks propietary [11:06] troy_s: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=whiteboard§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 [11:06] looks java based too [11:07] WOOT [11:07] http://thecoccinella.org/ [11:08] i recognize that name [11:08] i think i suggested it a year or so ago [11:09] WOW [11:10] you can send music samples too [11:10] that looks like a very good thing to try [11:10] i think the most prolific online collaborative drawing software is oekakis, but those aren't real time [11:10] nothlit: I dont know it... [11:10] nothlit: Link? [11:10] troy_s: hmm just search for oekaki [11:11] they're like forums for artists [11:11] again, you don't reallyneed too much power, just enough to communicate [11:11] a few varieties, java applets in which you draw [11:11] saving, comments [11:11] and different levels [11:11] mostly used by anime lovers [11:12] wow [11:12] i had NO idea [11:12] neatest thing is a lot of them have history, so you can watch the whole thing [11:12] theres some quality stuff, and a lot of those guys are mousers [11:13] is the code gpl? [11:13] for the site? [11:14] hmm [11:14] theres oekaki software freely available [11:14] you can plop it into your server easy [11:16] visit http://www.skrbl.com/42135377 -- i want to try this === yharrow is downloading coccinella [11:22] this skrbl ajax thing is nifty [11:22] yharrow: just visit it in a gecko browser :P [11:26] wow [11:26] that skrbl thing is cool [11:27] yeah [11:30] yharrow: that must be using canvas [11:31] the newer canvas property [11:31] hmm, never heard of it [11:31] looks sweet though [11:32] canvas? [11:32] did you guys notice the search box on the bottom right [11:33] you can search the text of the board [11:33] troy_s: if thats using canvas, then yeah [11:33] http://canvaspaint.org/ [11:33] try that... [11:33] the canvas property is pretty bloody incredible. [11:34] this is pretty incredible using the