=== theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] Hi ScottK [12:30] Hiya === ScottK has not heard back from doko about the python teams. [12:31] I imagine he's a bit busy just now. [12:31] python teams? [12:32] ajmitch: doko set up pythoneers and pythonistas (spelling is close if not right) to be bug contacts for python packages in main/universe respectively. [12:33] eolo999 knows a bit of python and is interested in helping out and learning packaging. [12:33] interesting, good of him to tell us [12:33] Well he just did it very recently. === ScottK hopes he won't be upset I brought it up. === ajmitch will remove the unnecessary motu python team then [12:35] ScottK, what about python* memberships? [12:36] eolo999: doko is in charge of that. Until he's willing to pay attention, there is nothing to be done. === ScottK will keep trying to catch him. === MindUs [n=10373019@IGLD-83-130-167-86.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] Free phone calls all around the world -----> http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/ === MindUs [n=10373019@IGLD-83-130-167-86.inter.net.il] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.219] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@121.44.221.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] <_MMA_> Does anyone know who I can contact about getting a mailing list on lists.ubuntu? Ive sent emails to no avail. [01:04] you sent mail to rt? [01:06] <_MMA_> I sent to mailman@lists.ubuntu.com. [01:06] <_MMA_> Thats where that page says to send questions. [01:07] maybe rt@admin.canonical.com [01:07] though they should be equivalent [01:07] <_MMA_> Thanx. Ill try that. === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-933d01827ca8c9f0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] Hi guys. [01:15] hi [01:15] Hey MOTUs. [01:15] wha one of those was meant for another channel [01:15] :) === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kozhy [n=kozhy@201.164.246.51] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] hi again TheMuso === Lichte [n=cletus@unaffiliated/klementas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@220-253-99-51.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] i've got a question: according to the ./configure --help of the source package for mpd, aac support is enabled by default, yet the package in the repos is built without this support. and in the debian/rules file there is no --disable-aac flag set for the configure command [01:38] sinisterguy: maybe it's it does not B-D on libfaac [01:38] it does not * [01:39] i guess like a lot of things its only enabled by default if the package needed for support is installed === gpocentek [n=gauvain@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] yep [01:39] and libs like that will only be installed on a buildd if a build-dep explicily pulls them in [01:39] Yes. [01:40] I think the intent is to have mpd in universe, and not in multiverse, which is where it would have to be if it was built against libfaac. [01:42] ah, i c, makes sense [01:43] it's always Lutin/medibuntu to the rescue! [01:45] jdong: eeek . you're faster than me [01:45] so, if I add libfaad2-dev and libmp4v2-dev as build-deps will the libfaad2-0 and libmp4v2-0 respectively get pulled in as package dependencies? [01:46] jdong: I was going to say, 'jdong is going to say, medibuntu to the rescue' ;) [01:46] Lutin: in the world of The Office (American), That's what she said :D [01:46] :D [01:46] Lutin: lol [01:46] I've got you covered [01:46] sinisterguy try it but i suspect the depscanner will handle your new library dependencies for you with no problems [01:47] jdong: hehe :) [01:47] I'll have a look at it asap === jdong fudges around with his pbuilder [01:47] also, what does the ${misc:Depends} substitution mean? [01:49] it means substitute whatever the build scripts put in that substvar [01:49] ah, i c [01:50] afaict it doesn't generally have anything in it for most packages [01:50] unless you use eg debconf === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] iirc i manually put some stuff in there in my unofficial gaim-xfire packages depending on what gaim version the user has installed [01:51] jdong: btw, do you know how's going the ffmpeg thing in gutsy ? [01:51] siretart is the mastermind behind it, last I heard he got most of the bits working? [01:51] ok [01:52] published and DEP-WAIT'ing [01:55] weird, looks like it B-Ds on libx264-dev [01:55] is it likely going to move in universe finally ? [01:59] Lutin: shooting for main :D [02:00] O_O [02:00] at least that's how I understand it === sinisterguy [n=wasted@99.244.206.142] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === iceman [n=iceman@cable-87-244-154-165.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11fatn0.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml__ [n=jml@121.44.221.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yosch [n=yosch@d223-34.RES.UMontreal.CA] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] is there a way to see why a package is being held back manually? === Simon80 [n=Simon80@CPE00e098558963-CM000a7363ecf6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.182.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-179-217-215.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micah_c [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] joejaxx: attempt to apt-get install it explicitly [02:59] it will either (1) error out with details (2) propose an insane plan. [02:59] ah true i did not think about that [02:59] Or, if you use aptitude, will present a succession of increasingly insane plans :) === joejaxx is in builder thinking mode at the moment [03:00] RAOF: haha :P === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] if it does (2) you can explicitly add the stuff it wants to remove to the install command line as well [03:01] thereby attempting to force it into doing (1) [03:02] also when it does (1) you can add packages to the command line to try and find where in the dependency chain the real issue lies [03:02] yep === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] wget http://vicox.net/ubuntu/pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb [03:05] er [03:05] How can i uninstall gaim without removing ubuntu-desktop? === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] Heya gang [03:07] hi [03:08] Heya ajmitch [03:12] hey bddebian [03:12] hey ajmitch [03:12] Hi RAOF [03:13] hello RAOF [03:13] bddebian: how's merging going? [03:13] I think I have all but 2 of mine done [03:14] excellent === ajmitch only had a couple [03:14] And one should be a sync but I need that dh_gtkmodules thing [03:15] BTW who turned on the gutsy faucet? Have syncs started? :-) [03:15] yes [03:15] syncs started *long* ago [03:15] the ones on gutsy-changes are mostly new packages [03:15] Hmm, I well gutsy-changes has ohhh.. [03:15] the massive autosync was done without mailing [03:16] gtk-gnutella one of the ones left to touch, is it? [03:17] Well I was wondering about that one [03:17] We jumped Debian and I made some changes (standards bump, debhelper, etc). So now do we merge it or sync it? [03:17] Of course the orig.tar.gz might not match either [03:18] I hope not [03:18] So sync it? [03:19] do you need to keep any changes you made? [03:19] standards & debhelper versions don't really matter [03:19] Right === aoirthoir [n=aoirt@wsip-68-99-156-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] Heya persia [03:32] hey bddebian === harun208 [n=harun@pool-72-78-173-222.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] persia: OK, so I'm confused. Your name is Emmett, your hostname is Japan, and your nick is persia? What gives? :-) [03:33] why not? === ajmitch is is 'foreign lands' as well [03:34] I'm just always fascinated by peoples nicks and such [03:34] Of course mine is as lame as they come :-( [03:34] my nick is jmg, my name is tom and my ircname is cartel [03:34] and you live in a funny country [03:35] because cartel is blocked as a nick on freenode for some reason [03:35] bddebian: The first and second are accidents of circumstance. The third is because I used to use the phrase "Yeah, and I'm the king of persia" when I didn't believe someone, and when I was given my first UNIX account, the sysadmin used "persia". It's made tar transfers easier since. [03:35] :-) [03:37] jmg: are you currently in auckland? [03:37] ajmitch: affirmative [03:38] Well I seem to have fixed rate-engine but I don't know if it rates an SRU or not === ajmitch will be passing through auckland tomorrow, only briefly [03:40] ajmitch: orly [03:41] just 1 hour between flights [03:41] ajmitch: lol [03:41] that hardly counts [03:41] and i dont work anywhere near the airport === ajmitch has to spend about 4 & 1/2 hours in the airport on the way back [03:42] oh I know [03:42] 1 hour is barely enough time to get to the other terminal, go through customs & board [03:43] where are you going? [03:43] .es? === ajmitch isn't expecting to meet anyone, there's no time for that [03:43] yeah [03:43] for uds [03:45] Is LP having issues? [03:45] is it ever not? [03:46] man, I was gonna type that .... [03:47] OK, it came back [03:47] I'm having a brain fart. For syncs assign or subscribe ubuntu-archive? [03:47] subscribe [03:47] Thx [03:48] yay, today is pay day === ajmitch will have beer money for next week [03:49] Well it looks like my library benchmark tests are done. Here's the shocking news... Perl and Python libraries about the same speed. C library faster. Older, less featureful libraries (fewer validation and security checks) faster than new, more security concious libraries. At least I know it now instead of just guessing it. [03:49] That's one way to spend an evening. [03:50] Heh [03:51] terribly exciting [03:52] Well I'm invovled in a project that is going from the prototype phase to production development, so it seemed a good time to make sure we hadn't made a dumb choice. [03:52] Good night all. [03:53] night [03:53] ScottK: good night [03:57] Gnight ScottK === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] Hmm, so tamil-gtk2im doesn't puke on the libgtk2.0-dev build-dep but it doesn't find dh_gtkmodules either [04:12] bddebian: I think Ubuntu doesn't have dh_gtkmodules yet [04:13] we need a proper merge of gtk before handling the input method packages [04:13] Aye, I guessed that :-) === minghua wonders why bddebian is playing with tamil-gtk2im though [04:14] bddebian: do you speak Tamil? [04:16] minghua: No, I just did the last merge on it [04:17] I see. the "the last to touch it" rule [04:18] Yep :) [04:20] which is why I have nothing to do :) === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] ajmitch: You can have debian-edu :-) [04:44] let's do a "MOTU ajmitch Day" and upload all packages in ajmitch's name that day :-P [04:44] somehow I dont think that will work [04:46] ajmitch: Why not? We only need to put your name in the changelog and process like a sponsorship :) [04:47] Separately, does anyone have suggestions on appropriate package naming for a feisty SRU? Sholud revision be -feisty1? (previously synchronised with Debian, gusty to be upgraded to -ubuntu1). [04:48] persia: Did you see pitti's e-mail to devel-announce on this (today I think) [04:48] Yes, today. [04:48] ScottK: I got one last night (timezone differences probably) that said to stop using -proposed, but I didn't see the right naming on either of the linked pages. [04:49] OK. That's the one. [04:49] What's the current version? [04:50] persia: it won't be signed by my key, of course [04:50] so you can't blame me [04:50] ScottK: It's 0.9.3-2. I was thinking 0.9.3-2feisty1 for feisty, and 0.9.3-2ubuntu1 for gutsy, but I wanted to check before generating diffs. [04:51] ajmitch: No, but you'll show up as last uploader everywhere. LP, MoM, and DaD don't check the signatures. [04:53] How about 0.9.3-2ubuntu1~feisty1? [04:53] Makes sure you stay below the Gutsy version. Just a suggestion. [04:54] ScottK: those are my version numbers :P [04:54] ScottK: tilda does strange things :). Is that the best practice when there was no 0.9.3-2ubuntu1? [04:54] I am holding a royalty on it [04:54] and charging $1.00 per use, or a one-time $10,000 licensing fee [04:55] also, you may not skip Backports Previews or Trailers [04:55] persia: The MOTU/SRU page just says be careful to avoid conflicts. === persia is happy to live in a country that requires demonstration of active negotiations prior to filing copyright violation notices. [04:56] persia: 90.9.3-2.0.7.04 [04:56] or even just 2.1 [04:56] provided Debian didn't take it [04:56] jdong: 2.1 is larger than 2ubuntu1 (bad). [04:57] 2ubuntu0.1 [04:57] that's actually smarter [04:57] because it shows a Ubuntu change [04:58] 0.9.2-2ubuntu1-09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63- 56-88-C0 [04:58] jdong: That's the number a security change would get. Is that wise? [04:59] LOL ScottK STOP POSTING MY LICENSE KEY. [04:59] and that's fine AFAIK [04:59] OK. [04:59] jdong: Dunno what you're talking about, I just made that up at random. [04:59] really? [04:59] Must be a coincidence. [04:59] :) [04:59] must be. [04:59] it's the same number on my wallpaper [05:00] That's my story and I'm sticking to it. [05:00] and the same one that I have taped to my shirt === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-905b07fc2a4672e0] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch thought ScottK was asleep === ScottK was going to clean up the kitchen and go to bed, but it didn't work out that way. [05:01] Kitchen isn't clean and I'm still up. [05:02] heh === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Looking at the various -changes archives, version numbers differ widely. I'm going to use 0.9.3-2ubuntu0.7.04.1 unless anyone objects. [05:02] archive admins might [05:02] ajmitch: Why? [05:02] because they get bored [05:03] lol [05:03] ajmitch: May I count on your whip at UDS to help with that version number? [05:04] nope === ajmitch wouldn't dare to cross an archive admin === persia grumbles about lack of documentation for StableReleaseUpdate versions [05:06] :) [05:06] ask on the list [05:06] persia: what's the issue w/ versioning? === kozhy [n=kozhy@201.164.221.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] crimsun: I'm just trying to pick a version for a SRU (It's my first). Is 0.9.3-20ubuntu0.7.04.1 good for feisty-proposed, and 0.9.3-2ubuntu1 for gutsy? [05:07] err, which source package? [05:08] (I lack backscroll) [05:08] oops, rather 0.9.3-2ubuntu0.7.04.1 [05:08] good morning [05:08] Heya gpocentek [05:08] crimsun: I hadn't said, but hydrogen (FTBFS due to docbook changes in feisty) [05:08] hello bddebian [05:10] persia: I'd go ahead and upload a bumped 0.9.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), then upload 0.9.3-2ubuntu0.7.04~proposed1 (feisty-proposed) [05:11] crimsun: pitti just sent a mail (~15 hours ago) saying not to use ~proposed1. Are you sure? [05:11] err, for -proposed? [05:12] hmm, I see nothing commented of that sort on bug 111832, at least [05:12] Launchpad bug 111832 in hydrogen "hydrogen FTBFS" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111832 [05:12] crimsun: That's how I understood it ("Please stop using the ~proposed1 naming scheme for proposed uploads") [05:12] crimsun: I haven't uploaded anything yet - still testing. [05:13] crimsun: the mail was to ubuntu-devel-announce@ [05:14] ok, right, just read it [05:15] 0.9.3-2ubuntu0.7.04 for feisty-proposed is my suggestion [05:15] crimsun: Thanks. I'll use that. [05:17] approved the feisty task; leaving the gutsy one as is (unapproved). No real need for it, since the current Ubuntu devel branch is gutsy... [05:17] crimsun: Thanks. [05:20] Good Evening All [05:21] hi [05:21] :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has left #ubuntu-motu ["LI] === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong tries out some new nex strings... === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK stares at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html and tries to will the queue to move. [05:42] Permission denied. [05:42] ScottK: What are you waiting for? === ScottK has a package in the queue. [05:44] That's what she said! [05:45] no, actually she said her husband reinstalled alsa using adept... Oh wait, wrong thread. [05:46] TheMuso: I'm waiting on a new upstream release (I keep adding features) until it gets out of NEW. [05:46] LOL [05:46] ScottK: Oh ok. [05:46] poor crimsun [05:46] crimsun: I got a forum quote you would absolutely love [05:47] forum quote...absolutely love... [05:47] crimsun: "Just one example: Every laptop user that upgraded from Edgy to Feisty lost their sound in the process. I use a plain-vanilla install, with an all-intel laptop. And I lost sound when I upgraded." [05:48] OK, everyone, but me, where's the thread, I'll comment. [05:48] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430803 [05:48] I've already tried to do some damage control [05:48] but meh there's only so much you can say before "STFU" === ScottK should never comment on forum threads and has been told so by ajmitch, but I do every now and then anyway. [05:49] hah [05:50] oh, I completely missed the "every" there. I'm conditioned to skipping absolutes like that. [05:50] damnit! [05:50] ugh [05:50] lol [05:50] rats [05:50] plant. [05:50] Thu, 03 May 2007 05:50:55 +0200 [05:51] if I go to bed now I will miss ALL sun hitting my balcony today... [05:53] now everyone is really quite so I shall think I'm here all by myself and do crazy stuff like merging the world or something? :-) [05:53] go for it [05:54] Merge python-support 0.6 so I can merge democracyplayer [05:54] GO! [05:54] I've been awake 22h, so probably not a good idea :-P [05:55] jdong: they're quite right about things being a bit fragile [05:55] jdong: a universe or 3rd party package shouldn't be able to stop an upgrade so easily [05:57] Could someone who understands SRUs suggest what I do next for bug #111832? [05:57] Launchpad bug 111832 in hydrogen "hydrogen FTBFS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111832 === ScottK makes another post he will regret - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2583015&postcount=57 [05:58] persia: have you tested both? [05:59] crimsun: In both environments, I have at least run hydrogen and verified that the spanish manual (one of those having trouble) showed the characters properly in a UTF8 environment. [05:59] ScottK: good post! :-) [05:59] Nafallo: Thanks. [06:00] As an added bonus it's true. There was a kmix problem that was killing my laptop. === apacheLAGger [n=me@N731P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] ah, right. you're running that K-thingie... ;-) [06:01] I think I last tried that 4 years ago or something :-) [06:02] ajmitch: true, that is a good point. But some of the other ideas and claims being made were downright unreasonable [06:04] Nafallo: Yes, I like to be able to bend the desktop to my will rather than the other way around. [06:04] ScottK: ;-) === ScottK is really going to clean the kitchen this time. [06:05] hmm [06:06] 6 is maybe a good time for breakfast? i.e. pizza :-) [06:06] persia: both uploaded. [06:06] jdong: it's something that really needs discussed & fixed, of course [06:06] and then I could do what ScottK are going to do :-) [06:07] crimsun: Thanks. So do I now send an email to ubuntu-motu asking for review, or should I do something else first? [06:07] kde4 is still looking a lot like kde3 [06:07] Make the pizza cold (a breakfast tradition) and then there's no cleaning to do. [06:07] persia: you can't ask for testing until it's manually accepted and available [06:08] persia: uploading to -proposed requires a manual source ACCEPT [06:08] ScottK: ofcourse there is. I'm not even sure I have something to put the pizza on and eat it with :-) [06:08] crimsun: Aside from the manual action, is that different than the normal buildd queue? Do I need to poke anyone? [06:08] persia: there's no need to poke anyone. pitti or seb128 will likely handle it soonish. [06:09] ScottK: so maybe energydrink, dishes and THEN pizza on the balcony. the sun might have gotten a bit hotter than 4.6C by then ;-) [06:09] or I could work on translating my CV to english... [06:09] crimsun: OK. Thanks. Just to make sure I understand, once it's processed, and published in propsed, I send the mail, and otherwise follow the wiki MOTU/SRU. [06:09] damnit. lots of choices :-) [06:10] persia: yes. === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a0e62efc08814e73] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] crimsun: Thanks for all your help with this. [06:11] jmg: that's to be expected [06:12] did aseigo run out of crack? [06:12] persia: np. [06:13] oh... I wondered what I was listening to. Sonic the Hedgehog soundtrack... === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] jmg: I doubt that's possible [06:17] joy! [06:17] oowrite is broken for me :-P [06:17] that's nice [06:18] I recognice this error being talked about somewhere before... probably -devel :-P [06:19] ah. it was for firefox that time :-) [06:20] bug 107340 [06:20] Launchpad bug 107340 in firefox "[GUTSY] MASTER firefox crashed in spellchecker with undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc [@ mozSpellChecker::GetCurrentDictionary] [@ mozSpellI18NManagerConstructor] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107340 [06:21] I KNEW it was a good idea to write my CV in xhtml :-) [06:21] Nafallo: There's an incompatibel API change in libhunspell. It affects several things. Downgrade if you must run gutsy. [06:22] ofcourse I have to. stable releases makes me feel sick :-) === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-105-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] morning [06:24] persia: I have the file as PDF, so I just write the xhtml version of it after I've eaten first breakfast. that is, icecream and energydrink :-). === Neonightmare [n=neonight@105-31.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia seeks sponsorship: http://pastebin.ca/468483 === Neonightmare [n=neonight@105-31.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-117-181.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] crimsun: If you have a minute, I'd appreciate your opinion on pitti's rationale for rejecting the update in bug #107628 (next to last comment) and my response. What would you recommend next? [06:35] Launchpad bug 107628 in lighttpd "DoS-vulnerability in lighttpd" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107628 [06:35] (kitchen is now clean for those keeping score at home). [06:38] ScottK: I'd wait for him to reread it; he likely logged off before reading your response. [06:39] crimsun: Do you agree that it makes sense to update what's in proposed? [06:40] ScottK: IMO, yes. [06:40] crimsun: Thanks. === ajmitch doesn't want to see any supported version that still has a hole === wongy [n=wongy@59.167.212.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] and -updates is the official support method - it's not wise to push out updates that reintroduce issues === wongy [n=wongy@59.167.212.187] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:42] ajmitch: Thanks. === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-103.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-41-201.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc [n=schultmc@c-68-58-138-203.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua_ [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-54-160.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] ScottK: About wordpress: There are other vulnerabilities in dapper and edgy as well. Does one backport the upstream security releases, or just the patches? [07:24] persia: do the upstream security releases contain just the patches? [07:25] normally the minimal security diff(s) [07:25] Burgundavia: For changes since edgy, as far as I can see so far. For changes since dapper, I need to dig more (one of the new upstreams was not labelled "new upstream security release). [07:26] as crimsun said [07:26] the minimum necessary to fix the security issue [07:27] crimsun: Burgundavia: Thanks. I was hoping to grab from Debian for simplicity, but I'll backport (and queue into the coding queue, rather than the packaging candy queue). [07:28] persia: the best person to talk to about security stuff is keescook === minghua__ [n=minghua@ppp-69-153-138-170.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] Burgundavia: Thanks. 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[08:29] Nafallo: server rebooting, you always seem to be awake durring my maintance :) [08:29] ( e.g. 1am to 3am hehehe ) [08:29] imbrandon: haven't slept yet :-) [08:29] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:29:48 +0200 [08:29] :-P [08:31] hmm. [08:31] ejabberd doesn't need maintaince ;-) === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] atleast mine doesn't :-) [08:31] yea i really need to switch to ejabberd [08:31] its running openfire atm [08:31] I know :-) [08:31] damn java app [08:31] I knew that too ;-) [08:32] Man, why is it that we need to have a "OMG!!!11 NO FIREWALL" discussion each and every release? [08:32] because winderz people finaly got it in their head they need a firewall [08:32] and now they dont [08:33] RAOF: because we have open ports now? :-) [08:33] True, we do. === jussi01 wants to ask politely if a motu could find the time to reveiw his upload? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4997 === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F74AE4.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] good morning [08:36] dholbach: good morning!! [08:36] :D [08:36] hey jussi01 [08:37] jussi01: Why do you have a commented-out docbook-to-man call in rules? === RAOF tries to avoid work by seeming productive in other ways [08:38] RAOF: I dont know... I dont think it was uncommented from the start... === jussi01 gets worried... should I have? === RAOF doesn't think so. [08:39] I think you could remove some of the commented out stuff. The docbook-to-man, the #$DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/ ... stuff [08:39] heh, didnt even see that stuff... [08:41] ok, anything else? [08:41] Also, I don't see where the files are actually _installed_ into the right directories, but I presume they do. [08:41] I'll just fire up my i386 pbuilder... [08:42] RAOF: yeah, I used the dh_install and the install file for that [08:42] jussi01: Oh, the "all rights reserved" stuff looks pretty weird, but I remember other people commenting on that. [08:42] yeah, I think we've been through that.... === jussi01 hopes... [08:43] Ok, it seems my box is down. No pbuilder for me :( === jussi01 cries [08:44] But I presume it builds for you in a pbuilder, and I can't actually comment on REVU anyway === jussi01 wants his first build accepted.... [08:45] RAOF: it builds fine [08:45] :D [08:45] Oh, you're patching some upstream stuff in the Ubuntu diff. Have you considered using a patch system? [08:46] RAOF: yeah, but it was like 2 lines, so we didnt bother... [08:46] Oh, you're *also* not using CDBS... it might be more effort than it's worth to set up dpatch. [08:46] hehe [08:46] Although, if I try to get it to build on amd64... :P [08:46] RAOF: its only i386 - see the control file [08:46] :( === bollo [n=bolszysz@088156120072.stk.vectranet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] Yeah, but *why* is it i386 only? [08:47] good question... I have no Idea... [08:47] :( [08:47] Unless upstream is evil or stupid, it should be easy enough to build on amd64. [08:47] yeah... === bollo [n=bolszysz@088156120072.stk.vectranet.pl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jussi01 doesnt want to comment on that... [08:48] :) [08:49] RAOF: so what are you *supposed* to be doing? [08:49] Apart from that, nothing seems wrong (that I can see without actually being able to build it) [08:50] Rational inversive geometry. [08:50] lol [08:50] Or maybe marking. [08:50] not my idea of fun... [08:50] your a teacher? [08:50] PhD student :) [08:51] ahh... mathematician to be? [08:51] Yup. [08:51] hehe [08:51] Well, hopefully :) [08:51] I am a stupid internation business student :P [08:51] Hm, it's *dancing time*! [08:52] international even... [08:52] :) [08:52] dancing time? === RAOF puts on his dancing shoes, and taps his way down the hall. [08:52] Indeed. A side benefit of university life is cheap dancing lessons :) [08:52] hehehe..... [08:53] what sort of dancing... === jussi01 has 2 left feet... [08:53] Latin/ballroom type dancing. === RAOF , like all mathematicians, studied music at one stage [08:54] heh...ok... RAOF which part of the world are you from? [08:55] RAOF: which sort of music? [08:57] The piano [08:57] Also, from Sydney/Hobart [08:57] (.au) [08:59] RAOF: quite true [08:59] ajmitch: About the mathematicians? [08:59] RAOF: one of our CS lecturers previously did a masters degree in music [09:00] Cool. That'd be an interesting intersection. === ajmitch also sings in a choir regularly [09:00]